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How that heck? Are you buddy? 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,519 Speaker 5: Somebody said that, you know when they went to Odeon 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,359 and they said, hey, can I use my criddle fifteen code? 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,680 That's you would charge fifteen percent more? 36 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 37 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:56,519 Speaker 3: Right, that's never happened. That's uh, that's that's misinformation. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: That's that's false. That's a false. 39 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:03,519 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just saying, man, you know it's a he said, 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,280 she said, world. 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,319 Speaker 4: My friend, I guess so, yeah it is. 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: But hey, innocent until proven guilty, right, But I'll tell 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,400 you you always get the fifteen percent off whenever you 44 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:18,439 mentioned myself for ESPN the fan Jonathan Tabnari on the line, 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,680 this bling basketball team, what what stood out to you 46 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:22,919 in this? 47 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: I was saying, how did they get the dub JT. 48 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: So I want to stay positive and I want to 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,319 say that by U was the greatest thing since slice 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 bread and they were right. I mean, if you look 51 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:42,919 at AJ and the way AJ played, you know, one assist, 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,680 shy of a triple double, played. 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,759 Speaker 2: The whole game. Conard Davis was. 54 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: Incredible, Mahailo Boscovich, my gosh, his best game as a Cougar. 55 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: And uh, I think defensively BYU was good. This is 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,919 where a lot of people might disagree with me. 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: I don't think BYU was great out of this world defensively, 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,000 I think they were really good. I just think Iowa 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,319 stayed also had a bad game. Well then, JG, are 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 you ever going to give these guys credit? I think 61 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,439 that both things can be can be true at the 62 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:21,319 same time. Then I think BUYU played a phenomenal game 63 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:24,360 and I will Stay played at one of the toughest 64 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,680 environments in college basketball. 65 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: And and so. 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: I think both things, both things can be be right 67 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,199 the same way that you know things didn't work out 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,159 for by you for almost you know, three weeks in 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,360 terms of getting wins and playing well. 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: I will stay had a bad night, right, did they 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,240 have a bad night. 72 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: Because of BYU's defense? Partially? You know a lot of 73 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:53,080 it because of that. And so to me, you know, 74 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,879 it was a perfect night for BYU to rebound and 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 bounce back, and uh, you know. 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: It was a great game. And uh, you know, to me. 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,319 Speaker 5: Credit goes to the victors, right, this is not one 78 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:08,560 of those things that you know, BYU won the game 79 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:11,960 and uh, and not so much of IOWA say, just 80 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:12,639 lost that game. 81 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: They gave the game for you. 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: No, b y went and took it, right, ioways they 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,160 didn't play well. Definitely didn't look like the sixth the 84 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,160 sixth ranked team in the country, that's for sure. And 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,839 so but it was a it was a it was 86 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:30,399 a perfect night where Mahilo stepped up and and Canard 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,040 stepped up and even hadem boop, you know, stepped up 88 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,079 and I and I and I think that was phenomenal 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,319 to me. 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,639 Speaker 2: You know, it may even sound blasphemous to say this. 91 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: I was happier with the performance from a high low 92 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:49,040 and hadem much more than I was impressed with AJ's performance. 93 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:51,600 And that's crazy to say because the man almost had 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,879 a thirty point triple double. But we know what he's 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,439 capable of. It had been a while since we even 96 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,519 saw you know, my Ilo played to that level, and 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,079 so to me, you know, and I and I said 98 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:05,879 this at the end of the the post game show 99 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,240 on buy U TV and ESPN Plus, where you know, 100 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,879 Mahilo and Hadein to me were the most impressive players 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,800 from Buyu just because we know AJ is otherworldly already. 102 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:22,439 Speaker 4: What Okay, I think I agree with you on like 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,120 a little bit. 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Of the I I'm not yet. 105 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:28,079 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I said. 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: I said something similar, not in the same not in 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,959 the same way, but a similar right too, to both 108 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:39,120 Ronnie and Brett. I said, Look, because they contested shots early, 109 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,839 I felt like when Iowa State was open, there could 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,879 have been something within mechanics where they were kind of 111 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,879 sped up and they were missing. 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Wide open shots at times. 113 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: Right, But like, I do feel like they were closing 114 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,399 out early and often and bringing different energy which could 115 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,519 be a contributing factor to sped up mechanics or altered 116 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:03,000 mechanics when it's not a contested or semi contested shot. 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: Is that an accurate depiction? 118 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: I think so. 119 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: You know, obviously, you know, it takes an incredible amount 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,439 of mental sharpness to be able to just shoot every 121 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,560 shot the same. And you know, if you don't see 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,240 your first ones go in, it takes a toll on you, right. 123 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 I mean we saw this with Richie, you know, the 124 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:25,600 games before he got hurt, where he would have open 125 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,600 looks but he just wasn't knocking them down. 126 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: And so it happens. It happens with everybody. 127 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: And so did BYU did a phenomenal job on defense? 128 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,519 Speaker 2: I think they did. 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 5: I think they did a great job on defense. But 130 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,560 you know, to your point afterwards, I always think just 131 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,439 didn't play well. This is not a takeaway the credit 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,319 from BYU. It's just analyzing the game in an objective way. 133 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,360 And then the other thing is also to say, this 134 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:51,759 is not a takeaway the game from a j who 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,439 is arguably you know, Seth Davis even mentioned, which I agree, 136 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,600 it was most likely one of the best two way 137 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,120 performance in you know, in the season, in the whole 138 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,639 college basketball season this year, which I think is a 139 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:07,560 fair thing to say. But think about what we have 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,439 been you know what you have been paying me the millions. 141 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,759 Speaker 2: Of dollars I get paid from ESPN de fan. 142 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: Think about what has been the overall message that I 143 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:20,160 have been saying for the most two months now. Has 144 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:23,199 it been how great AJ is and he has to 145 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,439 do more? Or has been that Mahilo and Tyler and Alexei. 146 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Need to do more? You get what I mean? And 147 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,839 so to me, the fact that Mahilo was able. 148 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:34,759 Speaker 5: To step up and play the way he played, I'm 149 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,120 blown away. I'm amazed, I'm impressed, I'm happy. Whereas with AJ, 150 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:43,759 we know that he is arguably the best player in 151 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,839 the planet that is not playing in the NBA or 152 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:50,839 in the EuroLeague, and so the expectations of him having 153 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,839 that game are different. 154 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: Than Mahilo having the game that he had. You know, 155 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 that's the type of critical situation that he has been 156 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:02,920 with the I use you know, role players. 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,279 Speaker 3: Which element of AJ's game against Iowa State were you 158 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,959 most impressed by? Was it his scoring efficiency, where he 159 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,519 was getting his buckets, how he's getting his buckets fighting 160 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:18,680 through physicality. Was it his endurance cardio, that effort of 161 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,800 just playing forty minutes that's four games consecutively where he's 162 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,399 playing forty minutes. It's insane. How about his playmaking ability? 163 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:30,040 He had nine assists, It could have been fifteen sixteen 164 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,559 because guys just weren't hitting wide open shots when he 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,919 would draw double team or was it his defense lockdown 166 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,440 one of the best scorers in college basketball? 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,519 Speaker 4: What was your favorite portion of AJ's game and why. 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,279 Speaker 2: So? 169 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: I will actually say that the shot creation for others. 170 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,240 I don't know if it was you. I don't know 171 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,840 if it was Lee. I don't know if you were 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,919 talking to Lee or Eric Meeka, but I think it 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,120 was you. Bend As said AJ probably created twenty plus 174 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,399 shots for the people around him, and you know, someone 175 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:09,000 said that on Twitter, and I think that's that's my 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,519 favorite thing, is that he was able to create shots 177 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:16,799 for others, or maybe it was Robbie McComb that if 178 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,120 they knocked down half of. 179 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,159 Speaker 2: The shots that they missed, he ends up with fourteen 180 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,200 fifteen assists. 181 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 5: It's why I always said his comparison, if he's able 182 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:28,960 to to to improve his. 183 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Ball handling Titan a little bit. 184 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: I feel like he's more Penny Hardaway than he is 185 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,679 a smaller Kevin Garnet and so just because he's so smooth. 186 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: With it right. 187 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: And again, if we were to say that that BYU 188 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:44,440 beat Iowa. 189 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,039 Speaker 2: State with. 190 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,159 Speaker 5: Rob Wright the third only scoring nine points, people would say, 191 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,200 you're absolutely crazy out of your mind. But that's the 192 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,799 type of game that Hadeen had, that MoU Davis had, 193 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,639 and that Mahilo had. 194 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,759 Speaker 4: It was impressive and no doubt about it. 195 00:10:04,279 --> 00:10:08,039 Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabinari here on ESPN the fan former BYU bucket 196 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,480 getter talking some BYU basketball in this segment. 197 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:13,279 Speaker 4: A great win for BYU. 198 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,759 Speaker 3: And you look at what BYU has done over the 199 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,679 last four games, they're they're trending in the right direction. 200 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:23,519 You look at the final few games, has be what 201 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,279 you figured it out? Have they been able to figure 202 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,559 out the best rotation, the best minutes allocation? Is the 203 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,919 personnel now matching up with maybe the scheme that the 204 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,440 coaching staff is trying to employ. 205 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: We're getting the most out of this team. 206 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: I will be able to tell you this on on Saturday. 207 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:47,320 You know, one time is a fluke, Twice shows somewhat 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,399 of a pattern. 209 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:50,159 Speaker 2: Three times you got it down. 210 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: And so we'll see how they play tomorrow against UCF. 211 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Very late game by the way nine o'clock, good grief, 212 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:01,440 and you know, sat they at West Virginia. 213 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,159 Speaker 2: I think it would be it will be a big test. 214 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: For them, right, And so if Uiu is able to 215 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,279 finish this week again to a oh, I actually like 216 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:16,960 Buyu's chances of you know, going to Cincinnati to you know, 217 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,279 on another road trip and then finishing at home of 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,879 Texas back and finishing this tretch of five and oh, right, 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,279 that means that in the less eight games they're probably 220 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:29,840 gonna have gone Actually that's the point. Let's see if 221 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,639 we can look. That means that the under less eight games, 222 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,919 if they go five and oh on this stretch, that 223 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:43,240 puts them let's see, uh two wins and then yeah, 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,679 that puts them at you know, the only loss that 225 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,000 they'll have is Arizona. 226 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,759 Speaker 2: That puts them at seven in one bind. 227 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:52,879 Speaker 5: It will be difficult at that point for Buyu not 228 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,480 to be considered probably a four or a five seed 229 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:01,120 at worse at worse. And so, you know, big big 230 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:02,600 two weeks for b Yu. 231 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Starting tomorrow with UCF. 232 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 5: They have four massive games and you know, and I 233 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,039 think that if they go for and oh, they you 234 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,720 have a very realistic shot of being you know, a 235 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:19,360 third seed, a three seed, or a worse a four seed. 236 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: B Yu's win over Ioway State snapped a six game 237 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:27,320 losing streak against AP Top ten teams. 238 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,799 Speaker 4: So that was a big win for the k Y era. 239 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,519 Speaker 3: That was a big win for this twenty twenty six 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,919 BYU basketball team. And what can confidence from a win 241 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,840 like this do for a team a coaching staff. 242 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: Well, that was a signature win for the season, right, 243 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:47,960 I mean d YU was missing that and so to 244 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,879 be able to get it in the fashion that they did. 245 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,919 You know, I think there's a lot of you know, 246 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,840 I don't want to say question marks. I don't want 247 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,159 to say concerns. 248 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: There are a lot of not inquiries, but there are 249 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,159 a lot of like situations that you can look at. 250 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,759 Speaker 5: It was like, well b YU beat Iowa State. But right, 251 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:09,480 there's a lot of there's a lot of things that 252 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,080 you can say but and start listing them, but none 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 of thee last by U has its signature win of 254 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:16,960 the season, which is incredible. 255 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,639 Speaker 2: You know what they'll will do for a team. 256 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: I can tell you when we beat Louisville and then 257 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 we played North Carolina the next day. You know, I 258 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,279 literally feel like I felt like I could, you know, 259 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:31,399 like I was invisible. I walked around like I had 260 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:35,000 the letter S on my chest, and you know, because 261 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,919 you feel good about yourself. And that's why I say, like, 262 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,559 if if Mahilo is able to capitalize, if Mahilo and 263 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,679 Canard and Hadem are able to capitalize on this tomorrow, 264 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,879 and then they're gonna go to the to the road 265 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:55,279 trip against West Virginia and against Cincinnati, and oh buddy, 266 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:58,279 if they figure if they win both these, I mean, 267 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,080 they're probably gonna win tomorrow right at center Magic and 268 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,200 so on. If they win both of those games all 269 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,399 in Texas, that comes into provo. 270 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:11,519 Speaker 2: Without J T topping. Oh, I don't know how. 271 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 5: I don't know how the Raiders they're gonna look at that, 272 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:18,200 because you know, it becomes a dangerous team and uh, 273 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,039 and so it's. 274 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: The next two weeks will be able to truly tell, 275 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:23,360 you know. 276 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 5: I honestly felt like the season was gonna turn for 277 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,200 the worst after the Kansas has lost, and it kind 278 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,200 of did right in terms of, you know, Richie got 279 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,639 hurt and that was just a lot of negative negativity 280 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:40,919 and the momentum without a win, and so but if 281 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Uyu pulls off the fact that they go five and 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,120 zero on their last five, seven. 283 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: And one on their last eight. 284 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: Oh man, I don't know who is gonna want to 285 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,919 face these guys in March, because that's gonna be a 286 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,799 red hot team. 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: We've seen you look at Darren Peterson and h. The 288 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:07,000 debate right now that's going nationally is who are these gms? 289 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:10,879 Who is whoever gets that number one overall pick? Who 290 00:15:10,879 --> 00:15:14,080 are they gonna take first? AJ or Darren? Darren Stock 291 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,759 has dropped because he's in load management mode. He's not 292 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:19,960 playing as much, he's pulling himself out, but his points 293 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,320 permitted played are insane. He's the most proficient score in 294 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,919 college basketball. AJ is playing forty minutes a game, though, 295 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,679 and almost taling triple doubles versus top ten teams in 296 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:32,679 college basketball. 297 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: If you're a GM right now. 298 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: And you're taking all this in, where do you lean 299 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,399 right now? Do you do you lean towards the scoring 300 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,080 potential and the ability of Darren? Or do you say 301 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,600 AJ is the more well rounded player right now and 302 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:48,960 he's more of a competitor. 303 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: Well, so I'm going to try to take my blue 304 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,000 goggles on right and take it off. 305 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,879 Speaker 2: And so I will say this. 306 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,639 Speaker 5: Finds me a lot of my freshman year when there 307 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,360 was a discussion between Kevin Duran and Greg Olden, you 308 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,879 know what I mean. 309 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: Greg Olden had a lot. 310 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:13,519 Speaker 5: Of red flags at Ohio State with load management, only 311 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:17,120 playing twenty twenty five minutes a game, you know, like 312 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:21,080 he wasn't he wasn't a heavy usage guy. And so 313 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,759 it's interesting how you know people are looking at Darren Peterson. 314 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,720 Jeff Goodman actually tweeted out and said, I had the 315 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:33,240 same conversation with the same GM, you know, two three 316 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:36,240 weeks apart, and he went from Darren Peterson is the 317 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:39,360 consensus number one to I don't know if I would 318 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,159 even take Darren Peterson, you know, with my my top 319 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,840 two or three picks, maybe he would be the third 320 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,600 or the fourth pick just because of his ability. Before 321 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:51,720 I even pick him at all, I need to look 322 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,000 at the physical I need to just have him do 323 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,679 a battery of tests to look at bone density, at 324 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,639 anything and everything you can pssibly think of. 325 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's a fair thing to say. You're 326 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:04,519 you're seeing a. 327 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,319 Speaker 5: J right, big and strong and young and athletic and 328 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,599 filled with energy and just. 329 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,279 Speaker 2: Packed with you know, explosion and over and over and 330 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,039 over again at all times. 331 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,079 Speaker 5: Whereas Darren Peterson, you're looking at it in a little 332 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,000 bit like a Prima Donna type of situation where you know, 333 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,599 makes a three turns around, asks Bill Self to be subbed. 334 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,039 You know, Bill Self even says like, you know, we've 335 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:34,480 never had to deal with something like this, and you know, 336 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,880 like you can tell and Bill Self face he's like, 337 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:38,440 I can't believe I'm. 338 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:39,759 Speaker 2: Having to deal with this in my career. 339 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:43,839 Speaker 5: And you know, like that's my opinion, and that's the 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,720 way that I'm interpreting Bill Self's body language, and so 341 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,079 I you know, I also the one thing I was saying, 342 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,839 it also. 343 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: Depends on a lot of It depends on six. 344 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:56,559 Speaker 6: Right. 345 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: There are there are certain teams that if they. 346 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,839 Speaker 5: Get the number one pick and they go with Kim 347 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,759 Boozer because they're looking for. 348 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: A big man, I can't fault. 349 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: Them because Kim Boozer has been good all year long, right, 350 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,960 And Kim Boozer is actually played and he's maximizing everything. 351 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: Whereas with Darren Peterson, I think there's a big question 352 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,160 mark there. 353 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: And this is one of those drafts that you can't 354 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,279 go wrong with anybody unless you go with someone like 355 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,519 Darren Peterson, and they just ended up getting hurt over 356 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:31,279 and over again, right, and so can't stay healthy. 357 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: You know. 358 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,079 Speaker 5: It's again trying to say this without blue. 359 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Goggles, you know, in a in a very analytical way 360 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:41,559 from what I seen. 361 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 5: Basketball wise, you can deny Darren Peterson Stalin, right, you can't. 362 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,319 But at what point in time then that actually playing 363 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,240 games is going to actually matter versus just potential. 364 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: And you know, just hey, he may turn out to 365 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:57,799 be an All Star, you know what I mean? 366 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder what what if Darren goes off 367 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,200 in the NC double Trummer. This is why I'm predicting it. 368 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,680 I think he's gonna go off. I think he's gonna 369 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,759 ball out. I think he's gonna kind of change the narrative. 370 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,480 He's gonna play more minutes, all those all those things 371 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,920 that probably leave Kansas to at least the Sweet sixteen run. 372 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,759 If he does that, I think the narrative changes once again. 373 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:19,559 And they were gonna be flip floppers, right, there's gonna 374 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:20,119 be flip flopps. 375 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,599 Speaker 4: Oh see, I knew it. I knew it all along. 376 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,799 He was just he was just you know, building it up. 377 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,279 Speaker 3: He's he's he's big shot Bob in NCAA tournament. 378 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 4: He's playing when it matters most. 379 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,799 Speaker 5: Oh and that's the thing, right, I mean, just like 380 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,039 Yu was able to change to narrative with an incredible 381 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:42,119 performance the less, you know, the less game and getting. 382 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: It seen at your win, so can Darren Peterson. Right. 383 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 5: But if we're analyzing the snap shot up today, things 384 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,359 are not looking good for him. 385 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:52,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 386 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very intriguing, no doubt about it. 387 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:58,319 Speaker 3: Jonathan Debnaar here on your UTI ESPN, ready to little 388 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,559 college basketball here on Cougar Sports. 389 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: A couple of last things here at JG. 390 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,279 Speaker 3: I wanted to get your thoughts actually kind of these 391 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:08,279 overarching thoughts. This is more of like a high level 392 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:11,279 question for you, Elder Gilbert. I don't know if you 393 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,279 know Elder Gilbert at all, if you've interacted with him, 394 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,759 that's my guy, I know, okay, all right, Like I 395 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,920 love him. You know, he's been an ambassador for for 396 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:23,400 BYU Athletics, etcetera. Now he's a member of the quorumer 397 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,519 of the twelve. He he went on record and said 398 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,480 that the Board of Trustees and Elder Holland felt like 399 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:37,559 BYU was going adrift from its like archetype traditional value system. 400 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:39,839 Speaker 4: Maybe, you know, maybe it was within. 401 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: The the I don't know if the staff, the personnel 402 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,240 that was operating. I don't know if it was leadership things. Anyway, 403 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,920 I thought it was interesting. I don't know if you 404 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,559 saw any of these quotes what he stayed in, what 405 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,960 Elder Holland. 406 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 4: Said prior to. 407 00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 408 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I'll pull it up up here and 409 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,759 can can we play it for Ronnie? Can we play 410 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:08,720 that cougar byte? Well, let's play the first one where 411 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Elder Holland is where he's talking about how Elder Holland 412 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,759 stated that that b YU was going a drift. Now 413 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,960 let me know when you got a cute up, Ronnie, 414 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,640 and then we'll play for JT and get his thoughts 415 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:26,359 on this. But he essentially says that BYU b YU 416 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,440 has slipped or had slipped. 417 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:29,079 Speaker 4: Let's listen. 418 00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 6: In a lot of a lot of pressures for BYU 419 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:36,640 to be just like the world. People say, why do 420 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,480 we have these religious standards? Where do we do all 421 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,480 these things? And I remember I was talking to President 422 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:48,039 Holland and he was bemoaning that he could feel this 423 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,920 drift happening to the university. And he's like, what have 424 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,599 they done with our school that we loved so much? 425 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:59,200 And I felt awkward. I wasn't even the commissioner yet, 426 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:01,240 and I felt like I needed to defend them. And 427 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:04,000 I said, well, President Holland, you know, we have the 428 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,680 Honor Code, we have devotionals, we have religion classes, we 429 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:12,599 have the Academic Freedom Policy. And I said they're like 430 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,359 bumper lanes protecting us from bowling into the gutter. And 431 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,200 he didn't even let me finish. And he said, that's 432 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,599 very different than boeing for a strike. And he said, 433 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,119 we need to bowl for a strike at BYU. And 434 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,519 just a couple phenomenal things that have happened at that 435 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,759 university in the last five years. We started out five 436 00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,319 years ago with seventy five percent of our students. We 437 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,359 do an exit survey when the students leave. One of 438 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,079 the questions is did you grow closer did Jesus Christ 439 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,960 in your time at BYU. Well, five years ago that 440 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,960 was at seventy five percent, much lower than the rest 441 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,359 of our institutions. Well, the next year it climbed to 442 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,119 seventy seven percent than the year after that to eighty three. 443 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,640 Last it was eighty seven percent, and there's a real 444 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:08,119 momentum there. What's remarkable, though, is the faculty they wanted this. 445 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,160 They live in the same pressures that we feel, and 446 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,839 they wanted to stand up and be distinct and different. 447 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:21,880 And with all of that change, over ninety percent of 448 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:27,480 our faculty report high satisfaction and support as faculty at 449 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,519 that university, higher than almost every other secular comparison. So 450 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:37,599 we've been able to drive this change, but because the faculty, 451 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:39,839 for the most part wanted it. And I'm sure there 452 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,160 are a few who are like I wanted this to 453 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,559 be more like University of Pennsylvania or cal Berkeley or 454 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:50,480 some other school, but the majority came to BYU because 455 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:54,119 they loved its mission and they wanted to be different. 456 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,519 Speaker 3: Give me your reaction to those comments. What stood out 457 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:00,720 to you, John the Taebinari? 458 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I think the world of of 459 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240 of Elder Gilbert. I've had a chance to visit with 460 00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:12,640 him numerous times at basketball games, you. 461 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,559 Speaker 2: Know, and UH with him and. 462 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,799 Speaker 5: UH and President Reeese. You know, I knew President Wordington 463 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,839 a little bit less. 464 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,599 Speaker 2: I knew obviously you know, President Samerson and I are 465 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,240 very close. 466 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 5: And so what I would say is, you know, knowing Clark. 467 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,839 Speaker 2: Clark Gilbert like I do, I I wouldn't be. 468 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: Surprised if he turns around in a few years and say, 469 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,559 you know, I had a conversation with Elder Holland and uh, 470 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480 you know, I'm only aiming for strikes now. 471 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,839 Speaker 2: And you know, as I hear Dad, I. 472 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 5: Think about the mission of by U, and I think 473 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,559 about Kilaney, I think about a J. D. 474 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,279 Speaker 2: Bonsa. I think about the way AJ is carrying himself 475 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,359 like Ben, Like this is a kid that you know, 476 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,119 would have all the reasons in. 477 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: The world to go to a different school and be 478 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,559 willing to party and be willing to you know, participate 479 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,680 in in collegiate you know, activities that are normal anywhere 480 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:25,200 else but within our faith, but that people within our faith, 481 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,359 you know, still do it. 482 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:28,799 Speaker 2: But it's contrary to living the honor code. 483 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,559 Speaker 5: And I look at the way by U is right 484 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:34,200 now right, And I can tell you in good authority 485 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,079 that there are multiple conversations happening within the Athletic Department 486 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,759 about making sure that not only a standard of well, 487 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,759 let me take it back not only you're striving and 488 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,279 aiming to win a national championship at multiple levels. They 489 00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:57,680 are striving to do that while living. 490 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,319 Speaker 2: The Gospel of Jesus Christ. And I can tell you 491 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,200 that I can't. 492 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going to betraye people's trust and start naming 493 00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:06,400 names and situations. 494 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: But you know me, and you know a lot of 495 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,160 the people that you and I know, and you. 496 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 5: Kind of can you yourself kind of understand what I'm 497 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,079 saying here. I know for a fact there's a lot 498 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,480 of things that happen in off. 499 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: Seasons where one of the main things is I don't 500 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,559 care how good this kid is, he is not a 501 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:27,440 good fit. We're going to move on. 502 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:32,279 Speaker 5: And so, you know, it's one of those things that Klaney, 503 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,039 it's one of those things that Kevin Young has bought into. 504 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,039 You could tell Ben on Saturday after. 505 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: The game that Kevin exploded to the student to the 506 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,559 rock and. 507 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,799 Speaker 5: The burst off of energy and celebration that was pure 508 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920 and that is coming from a place of I represent 509 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,319 this university, I represent this basketball program, I represent this institution, 510 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,680 represent the Church of Jesus Christ, of lot of these saints. 511 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,640 I That's that's. 512 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: What I do. And I'm going to say one more thing. 513 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,079 Then to have. 514 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 5: Kevin Young speak up doing the press conference after Oklahoma 515 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,599 State and say I'm a Mormon and I'm doing this 516 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:13,440 like that was powerful. 517 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: And so you know, the hand, you know, the touch 518 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,079 and the guidance and another. Gilbert would never take credit 519 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,599 for that. That's the type of man that he is. 520 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,039 But we all know that it's his impact, his influence 521 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:30,680 on the way that. 522 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: The educational living in standards of b YU have been 523 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,799 impacted these last few years. We know that he had 524 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:42,000 a direct hand on and so you know, it's it's 525 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,160 one of the things that I you know, I think 526 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,480 sets b YU apart right and uh, it's the standard 527 00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,000 of living, what you represent and what you do. And 528 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,799 so you know, obviously we all miss President Holland dearly, 529 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,279 and you know, I had a few situations that we 530 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,039 got to shake. 531 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,039 Speaker 2: His hand because BYU is near and dear to his heart. 532 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 5: He's a b YU man, much like President Oaks is 533 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,839 a BYU man. And so the focus is on BYU. 534 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:14,519 The pressure is definitely on the head coaches to recruit 535 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,160 and make sure that young men and young women you know, 536 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,359 are in a position to succeed. 537 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: You know at BUYU and Uh, I think that BYU 538 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:29,000 is on the right trajectory. And and that's the beauty 539 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:29,720 of the gospel. 540 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,319 Speaker 5: You know, if you're doing things with your heart's turned 541 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,119 to Christ, and if you open a wrong door, as 542 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,640 long as you have your heart centered in Christ, he 543 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,319 will guide you to open the right door. 544 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,119 Speaker 2: And and I and I would love. 545 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,519 Speaker 5: To ask you, Ben, I feel like I've seen that 546 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:47,680 multiple times happening with multiple programs. 547 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,279 Speaker 2: I dare to say that you have as well. 548 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: No doubt about it, man, I just love hearing from leadership. 549 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640 One of the things that I that we haven't necessarily 550 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:01,279 heard from our leadership. I don't know about you when 551 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,599 like I don't remember Cecilo Samuelson going up to like 552 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,240 the devotional or going on to media platforms and discussing 553 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480 the mission of BYU and the mission. 554 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: Of athletics as it as it as it integrates with 555 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,480 you well. 556 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: And Elder Gilbert has Elder Gilber has like, and I 557 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,119 think Shane Reese and unapologetically. 558 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,839 Speaker 4: Has said like, we're we're very holistic here. 559 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Academic, spiritual, and athletics is all part of the experience. 560 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's ever been that way quite honestly. 561 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: Well, I also I also would say, and I know 562 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,640 that you're not saying this to take like, oh President 563 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,599 Samilson wasn't good. 564 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not saying that. 565 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: I definitely that I don't think it hasn't been in 566 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,519 a public sphere, is what I'm getting exactly well. 567 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: And I also think that the world has come a 568 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,119 long way. 569 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 5: Like you know, back in two thousand and four to 570 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:52,799 two thousand and eight, when you and I were at BUYU, 571 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,839 you know, like Facebook was barely a thing and social 572 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,480 media was in existent. 573 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,559 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like one of. 574 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:07,039 Speaker 5: Your first years doing you know, the radio show, Instagram 575 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,480 was just a filter for pictures, you know what I mean. 576 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,039 And so I think the world and globalization has had 577 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,319 an impact on the way that we talk of Christ, 578 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:20,039 we preach of Christ, and we represent Christ right. And 579 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,960 I think that with the evolution of the way that 580 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,799 social media has come along, so has the way that 581 00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:31,200 we practice our religion, that we talk about our religion. 582 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:33,240 I mean, Ben, when it was the last time that 583 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:38,920 you can remember that you did an interview on a 584 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,920 that a national audience could be reached because your show 585 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,880 is national, you know, you have listeners all over the world, 586 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:46,079 and we just. 587 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,759 Speaker 2: Spent almost ten minutes talking about our Lord and Savior, 588 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:53,119 Jesus Christ and so like, I never had a platform 589 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640 like that when I was at BUYU, and I was 590 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,839 probably the most outspoken athlete that there was a BUIU 591 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,799 during in that time. 592 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,599 Speaker 5: And so I think with with with the with the 593 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,519 avenues and the media channels and the world the changing 594 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:13,880 and new technology being being you know, vamped, it becomes 595 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,039 one of those things that you. 596 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,599 Speaker 2: Can now talk to leaders, you can now have that outreach. 597 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,680 And I think one of the reasons why you know, 598 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,599 the Lord called you know, Clark C. 599 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 5: Gilbert to be able to be an apostle is very 600 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,000 much because he is in tune with what's happening with 601 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,559 the youth today. He is in tune of what's happening, 602 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440 you know, in high schools and colleges because that was 603 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,200 his job, you know, like he was a faculty. He 604 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,319 his faculty at Harvard, and so to me, it's one 605 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:39,279 of those things that. 606 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: You know, the law the Lord. 607 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: In Brazil we say, the Lord writes correctly in crooked lines, 608 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,119 and he knows best and it's all. 609 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,759 Speaker 2: Done in his time, and so you know. And that's 610 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:53,400 one of the things. 611 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 5: Man, I fully believe this, right and I think Kilani has. 612 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,359 If there is one thing that I can say not 613 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:04,359 extremely positive about the basketball program, because I will shower 614 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,160 the football program with with praise is Kilani. And this 615 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,960 is from day one, and I have this again. 616 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: I can name you a dozen football players. 617 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:21,759 Speaker 5: From Foutee, you know, from Carlows for I mean, I 618 00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:25,160 can go on and on and on. Kilani has made 619 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,400 his life's mission to get buy U to the greatest, 620 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,480 to the greatest, you know, stage of all in Buyu 621 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,480 in college football at the college football level, and he 622 00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:41,920 has surrounded himself with greatness when he comes to former athletes, 623 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,880 to former players. Right now, it's different because you can 624 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,119 employ more people on a. 625 00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: Football team, right you know. But I feel, I truly. 626 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: Feel a duty as an alum of BUYU, which is 627 00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,319 why I work with the guys in the summer and 628 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,119 I don't charge them a penny ask traveling now how 629 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,920 much I've ever charged him to spend you know, countless 630 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,119 countless summers with him working or Brody Koleslowski. I feel 631 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,599 like it is my duty as in the lum as 632 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,640 a representative of the church as a public figure that 633 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,680 has played for BUYU that I have to go back 634 00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:21,440 and I have to give to these guys and I 635 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,680 have to help, you know, guide them of showing them 636 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,720 what is the buyu A? What does he mean that 637 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:29,960 the world is our campus that you enter to learn 638 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,119 and you go forth to serve. 639 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: What does he mean to act like in a christ 640 00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:34,759 like way. 641 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,359 Speaker 5: Where you know, you truly play like you're going to 642 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,839 demolish and kick their butts, but then afterwards you're going 643 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,359 to love, you know, love your neighbor. And so it's 644 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,759 one of those things that you know, the buy u 645 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,480 A specially and unique and I. 646 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: Fully believe that Clark C. 647 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 5: Gilbert embodies all of that. 648 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,359 Speaker 3: That'd be interesting to get your thoughts on a great commentary. 649 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:56,759 Speaker 2: JT. 650 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,599 Speaker 3: Appreciate you hopping on for a little keeping up with 651 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:00,240 the Cougar brother. 652 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:01,319 Speaker 4: We'll catch up again soon. 653 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,039 Speaker 2: Always in forever, my friend, go kus. 654 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:05,759 Speaker 4: There you go. 655 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: That's Jonathan Tebinari and that was brought to you by 656 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,480 Odeon Men'swearodion Menswear dot Com. 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Number 696 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,320 ninet TV you wrapped up its two game homestand Tuesday Night. 697 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:57,760 They will be wrapping up their their two game homestand 698 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000 Tuesday Night February twenty fourth, as they welcome UCF the 699 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,920 Knights to the marriage Center for the second time. Tip 700 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,599 office skinding for nine pm Mountain time. The game will 701 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,239 be scheduled or will be televised nationally on ESPN two 702 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,800 with Mike Monico and Miles Simon on the call. You 703 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,119 can always get the BAU radio call as well with 704 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:17,360 Greg rebelling Mark Durant. 705 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,079 Speaker 4: Tuesday marks the fifth. 706 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 3: Time all time meeting between BAU and UCF. The Cougars 707 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,840 are four to zero all time against the Knights, including 708 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920 a win in UCF's only previous trip to Provo. UCF 709 00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,400 head coach Johnny Dawkins's owned six all time against BAU 710 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,599 during his time at Stanford and UCF. 711 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 4: That is of note. Little stat of the day brought 712 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,719 to you by Bander Wealth. 713 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: After meeting three times in their first season as Big twelve, 714 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,679 o's all in the thirteenth of the month. 715 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,639 Speaker 4: By the way, kind of a fun fact. The team's 716 00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:47,320 met just once. 717 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,119 Speaker 3: During the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season, and 718 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,239 an eighty one to seventy five BAU road win in 719 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,840 Orlando is what came of it. So shout out to 720 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,280 the Coogs, by the way, Richie Sunset a really nice 721 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,679 outing in that game. Twenty two points eight fourteen, shooting 722 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:02,119 in six to nine from the three point line. But 723 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,159 what Mag started to become a baller for Brigham at 724 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,559 that time out of nineteen points and five assists, and 725 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,199 it was fun to watch. But what Mag really step 726 00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:14,840 into that role? You hope, right? You hope that Hadem 727 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,039 Boop has a similar impact defensively and rebounding as what 728 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,119 will Hadeem be? What what Mag was last year. I'm 729 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,679 not talking about like the three and d I'm just 730 00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,960 talking about the overall impact. I'm talking about the overall 731 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,480 like influence of his style of play impacting everybody else 732 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,199 in a positive way. 733 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,159 Speaker 4: Ronnie, What do you make of it? 734 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:36,679 Speaker 5: Yeah? 735 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 8: I think the inner Yeah, I definitely don't think the 736 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,400 impact like you said, But I think the guy that 737 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,519 comes in that's willing to do all the dirty work 738 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,159 like that. Yeah, I agree. I think he's definitely that person. 739 00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:49,000 I think the combination of him and move Bin doing 740 00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,280 what they've been doing now has I definitely think that 741 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440 that adds a mixture. Remember when I told you a 742 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,480 couple of you know, weeks ago, Well, now a couple 743 00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,519 of weeks ago. Last week, Okay, who's the guy that's 744 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,440 gonna step in and get bored. You know, I said 745 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,760 this in my Cougar Sports press release, but Richie Saunders 746 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,239 the guy that's gonna replace him. His move move grabbed 747 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,000 four offensive rebounds. Ben for I think his best of 748 00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,800 the season. That's the guy that can replace that role. 749 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,679 But to your point, I definitely think the energy guy 750 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,280 to come off as is Boople and Jackson Pann called 751 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,639 him a solar battery. I think that was great take 752 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,920 by JP of the Desert News and you saw it. 753 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960 I mean, book comes in the game and has four 754 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,920 boards and I'm just scratching my head of like, this 755 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,039 guy just don't care. He he is id a it 756 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,119 gaffed it. Gaff is the best way to describe it. 757 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,199 He doesn't care if he scores. He just wants to play. 758 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,519 And when we have a guy like that Ben, that 759 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,960 can lead you to Vickery's and it definitely did on Saturday. 760 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,639 They're gonna need him tomorrow against UCF and they're gonna 761 00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,199 need him for the stretch of this march. 762 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,159 Speaker 4: Maddin his run. 763 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 3: Cougars are eighteen and one against n ranked opponents this 764 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,840 season and have won sixteen straight home games versus unranked 765 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,639 teams dating back to January twenty twenty five, Connor Davis 766 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,679 Junior has now made nine straight free throws. By the way, 767 00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:57,960 getting to the line I think is really beneficial for 768 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,960 Cannard Davis need here to get more two's in my opinion, 769 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,679 with a with a make on his next attempt, he 770 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,800 would become the fourth Cougar of the season to record 771 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,599 double digit free throw streak. 772 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 4: So one concern I have. 773 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,599 Speaker 3: Ron don't want to and I don't know if you 774 00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,079 guys asked this question of the post game. On the 775 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:22,639 last declarative ferocious dunk of kpe Keta, it looked like 776 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,320 he injured his hand. Again, do we have any update 777 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,760 on in that right hand of his I wish he 778 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,400 would have just laid it in like a finger roll 779 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,199 because it seems like he's continued to struggle with that 780 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,840 hand injury and it's limited some of the Lobblake City 781 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,519 we like to see. 782 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:38,639 Speaker 4: That's a good point, Ben. 783 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,599 Speaker 8: None of us did ask that, No, we did not. 784 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:44,039 I think we were so focused on the win and 785 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,679 maybe that question was asking the media availability that Kevin 786 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,679 Young had, like you know, about an hour ago, I 787 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,079 think with the media. So when we get into the Santamar. 788 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:53,639 Maybe there's something there when I go look at it, 789 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,440 but it was originally wasn't asked, but good point. Cable 790 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,159 was hurting. And here's the crazy part. Do you know 791 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,519 what happened on the next play after that? He got 792 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,800 a goaltending where he went up and tried to swap 793 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,360 the ball off the backboard. So he's got to keep 794 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,000 that hand in check. But yeah, he came down grimacing. 795 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,800 At first I thought it was his hip, but no, 796 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,519 it definitely was that hand. That hand has been a 797 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:12,760 struggle all season. 798 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 4: Ben, Yes, indeed it has been. 799 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,079 Speaker 3: That's our segment, guys. 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What is the former Cougar up 826 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,280 to these days and is he being celebrated as one 827 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,760 of the top quarterbacks in college football over the last 828 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,840 twenty five years. We'll discuss it here on your ut 829 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,599 Utah ESPN radio network. Going to be brought to you 830 00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:51,039 by Orthopedic Pros of Utah. What do we do at 831 00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:54,039 Orthropros of Utah. 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In the two 851 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,079 thousand college football season, ten FBS quarterbacks through for more 852 00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,960 than three thousand yards in twenty twenty five. 853 00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:57,639 Speaker 4: Check this out. 854 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: Thirty seven did such that's insane. We're ripping the ball 855 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,760 downfield these days, including five freshmen. Remember Jaron Saga, Polo 856 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Tule through for three thy four hundred yards this last season. 857 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,159 Part Bachmeier was right there, just ripping it, doing some 858 00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,440 great things. A lot of great quarterbacks in college football 859 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,199 in the modern era. But who are the top one hundred? 860 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:25,760 And how many BYU guys are in the top one hundred? 861 00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 4: How about this? 862 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,559 Speaker 3: Look you here at number ninety three, Maximus Decimus Meridius 863 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:38,679 hallis coming in at number ninety three, through for eleven 864 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,360 three and sixty five passing yards, sixty five completion percentage, 865 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,679 ninety four touchdowns in forty nineties. 866 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: This is what Bill Conley had to say about Maximus. 867 00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,519 Speaker 3: The post Lavell era Edwards Lavell Edwards era didn't start 868 00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,960 incredibly well at BYU, but thanks to a rejuvenated and 869 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,679 prolific passing offense led first by John Beck and then 870 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:02,599 by Max Hall, the Buers ripped off four consecutive seasons 871 00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:06,440 with double digit wins and established themselves near the top 872 00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:11,480 of the Mountain West hierarchy. So shout out to Maximus 873 00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:15,679 for being in the top one hundred quarterback QBU alive 874 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,440 and wow, now I teased it. 875 00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 4: Let's talk about Zachary Cappono. 876 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 3: Wilson played quarterback for Brigham from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty. 877 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,039 Speaker 4: He's coming in at. 878 00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 3: Number seventy two, just a scoach ahead of Andy Dalton. 879 00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:30,199 Speaker 4: That's right of. 880 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 3: TCU seven six hundred fifty two passing yard, sixty eight 881 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,280 percent completion percentage, fifty six touchdowns to fifteen iron t 882 00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,719 Look at that TDed I in t ratio. He also 883 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,880 tacked on fifteen rushing touchdowns in his BYU career, the 884 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,039 best BYU quarterbacks since Steve Sirkezian, says Bill Conley. He 885 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:53,840 first made waves by going eighteen for eighteen for three 886 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,320 hundred and seventeen yards in the the bowl game in 887 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,320 his old ROMP as freshman. 888 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,679 Speaker 4: That was the Idle Potato Bowl. 889 00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: Then he finished his career as a top ten draft 890 00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,320 prospect after posting three thousand, six ninety two yards and 891 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,119 a ninety six point four passer rating in two thousand 892 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,679 and twenty. What is Zach Wilson up to these days? 893 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,920 While twenty twenty six NFL free agency is right around 894 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,719 the corner, notable departures for all thirty two teams, and 895 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,920 as Zach's gonna be one of those with the Miami Dolphins, 896 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,480 you have some question marks regarding the Miami Dolphins organization. Obviously, 897 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,760 he's set to become a free agent twenty twenty six. 898 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,880 After signing a one year, six million dollars deal with 899 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,639 the Dolphins in March of twenty twenty five, His contract 900 00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:46,360 is set to expire and making him that free agents, 901 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,239 and reports indicate he likely will not resign with the Dolphins. 902 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,079 I think his stint as a backup to Tua Tago 903 00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,000 Bailoa after seeing minimal playing time, and so we'll see 904 00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:01,199 what happens. He was with the Denver Bronx Goes prior 905 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,599 to that, and the New York Jets prior to that. 906 00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,920 What do you got, Ronnie? Okay, my bad? I thought 907 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,719 you had something to say. Twenty twenty five, you know, 908 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,079 he completed six of eleven passes for thirty two yards. 909 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,559 Not much, not much there, So he is expected to 910 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:20,559 become a free agent. We wish him well. Where where 911 00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:22,480 will he end up? Do you have a favorite, Ronnie? 912 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,800 Where do you think he ends up? Is it back 913 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,000 in Denver? Do they need him? Could he be of use? 914 00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:32,360 Is it in La? What's up with La and Sean McVay. 915 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:33,559 What's going on there? 916 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,599 Speaker 8: It could be La could be a spot. I mean 917 00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,360 we listed the spots last year. Maybe we need to 918 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,320 get this into this more offseason once the NFL free 919 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,079 agency happens in about two weeks and cap spacing all 920 00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:45,320 those things. But look, I would love to see him 921 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,320 in La. Matthew Stafford a backup is a great spot. 922 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,199 Sean McVay is a great you know, coach Matthew Stafford's 923 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,480 time is coming to a close. I still like Detroit. 924 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,239 I know that they have Jared Goff there. I think 925 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,440 learning behind the guys and great in a great system. 926 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,079 Look a spot that I'm looking at. I don't know 927 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,000 who the backup is, but Washington. You have to think 928 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,880 if Jalen Daniels been excuse me, Jaden Daniels, Uh yeah, 929 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,320 it is gonna be injured. How how much is that 930 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,920 gonna maybe affect you know, the backup quarterback and playing time, 931 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,199 you know, with Jaden Daniels over there, so we'll see. 932 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,639 Speaker 5: Uh. 933 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 8: I don't know if the Atlanta Falcons is a spot. 934 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,960 I know they drafted Michael Pennix junior, but is he 935 00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:18,719 you know, it's kind of up and down with him. 936 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,920 So there's some spots. But I'm definitely looking forward to 937 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,880 the offseason talk. But right off the top of my 938 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,159 head La Detroit, Washington, I think there's a couple of 939 00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,480 spots maybe that he can he needs to learn from somebody. 940 00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,280 Maybe the Packers was with Matt ma Lafour. 941 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 942 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 4: Great stuff there. 943 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,159 Speaker 3: Final thing before we say farewell for this segment, John 944 00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,639 Beck's not in the top one hundred, which this is ridiculous. 945 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,679 John Beck was ridiculously effective and efficient and O five 946 00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,679 and O six became a second round pick. I think, uh, 947 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,079 I think he got I think he got slidered here. 948 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,119 John Beck should be in the top one hundred. 949 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 6: Uh. 950 00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 3: In my opinion, so Max Hall and Zach Wilson both 951 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000 in the top one hundred though well deserved from both 952 00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:03,719 of those guys, but John Beck should. 953 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,679 Speaker 4: Also be added here. 954 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: Guys, I want to give you guys some some tickets 955 00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:10,960 a ticket's disdained. 956 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 4: That's right. 957 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 3: One of the defining bands of the post grunge era 958 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,280 and the group behind the Head. 959 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,079 Speaker 4: It's been a while. 960 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: They're coming to the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater October seven. 961 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Listen to ESPN the Fan every morning. 962 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 4: Bryce A. 963 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,599 Speaker 3: Bouo Nucci will give away at eight forty five am 964 00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,159 on one oh three nine FM and ninety point three FM. 965 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,480 They're gonna be given away some tickets, so tune in 966 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,400 to your Utah ESPN radio network every morning eight forty 967 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,480 five am for your chancel win. You can get more 968 00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,280 details at espnfan dot com. Let's take a time out, 969 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,639 we'll be back. Don't go anywhere. Adam Eaton, co host 970 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:49,000 and executive producer of the Suns of UCF podcast. 971 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna get to know the folk