Speaker 1: It's a nice size.
Speaker 2: Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the big story of the week, and
Speaker 1: that is to fallout from the hoodie raid that took
Speaker 1: place on Saturday, March fifteenth. I think all of you
Speaker 1: are aware of it now. Democrats very concerned with the
Speaker 1: security breach that occurred. The Republicans are basically saying it
Speaker 1: was a mistake. The President has not been as as
Speaker 1: as forthcoming. Well, let's let's just get a little bit
Speaker 1: of just to reset this. The Press Secretary today late
Speaker 1: this afternoon tells the media that Elon Mosque Musk and
Speaker 1: his experts will be investigating the signal chat lake. Here
Speaker 1: it is cut thirty six. Please rob let's let's listen
Speaker 1: to the White House Press Sectuary this afternoon, cut thirty six.
Speaker 3: As for your original question about who's leading looking into
Speaker 3: the messaging thread, the National Security Council, the White House
Speaker 3: Counsel's Office, and also, yes, Elon Musk's team. Elon Musk
Speaker 3: has offered to put his technical experts on this to
Speaker 3: figure out how this number was inadvertently added to the
Speaker 3: chat again, to take responsibility and ensure this can never
Speaker 3: happen again.
Speaker 1: She was asked this question repeatedly, and at some point
Speaker 1: was crying to lose her patience with the reporters in
Speaker 1: the White House press room. Just give you a little
Speaker 1: sense of it. This is cut thirty seven. B ro
Speaker 1: B is in Boston.
Speaker 3: There's more, but we don't have all day, and we
Speaker 3: can now add this signal hoax to this very long list.
Speaker 3: The real story here is the overwhelming success of President
Speaker 3: Trump's decisive military action against Houthy terrorists. On March fifteenth,
Speaker 3: President Trump ordered a series of military operations against the terrorists, whois,
Speaker 3: to defend US shipping assets in the Red Sea, restore
Speaker 3: freedom of navigation for international shipping, and defend the United
Speaker 3: States from enemy threats. United States forces successfully struck dozens
Speaker 3: of targets across Houthy controlled territory, and as a result
Speaker 3: of these actions, several Hoothy leaders were killed, including the
Speaker 3: Hoothy drone chief, his deputy, and several of their jone
Speaker 3: experts and other key leaders.
Speaker 1: And then one more from Caroline Levit today cut number forty.
Speaker 3: The President's view on all of this remains the same
Speaker 3: today as it did yesterday, and I think it speaks
Speaker 3: volumes about the leadership of this President that he went
Speaker 3: directly to all of you members of the press corps.
Speaker 3: He was asked, do you want someone else to go
Speaker 3: out and do a briefing, and he said, no, I
Speaker 3: will tackle this story. I will discuss it. The people
Speaker 3: need to hear from me about the situation. And so
Speaker 3: his thoughts on this remained the same today. He has
Speaker 3: plays great trust in his national security team. And as
Speaker 3: for the usage of signal, as the President said yesterday,
Speaker 3: as the CIA director has testified under oath, this is
Speaker 3: an approved app. It's an encrypted app. The Department of Defense,
Speaker 3: the Department of State, the CIA has it loaded onto
Speaker 3: government phones because it is the most secure and efficient
Speaker 3: way to communicate. As for again the original situation in
Speaker 3: this messaging thread, the National Security Council, the White House
Speaker 3: Counsel's Office continues to look in to how this mistake,
Speaker 3: which the National Security Advisor has owned, occurred, and the
Speaker 3: President has ensured they are doing that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good summary. Six Skip Roland.
Speaker 1: You're going to go to a mark in Derry, New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: Mark next on Nice.
Speaker 4: I go ahead, Uh, yeah, Hi, I do definitely want
Speaker 4: to talk about this, uh, this single app. But if
Speaker 4: you would allow me. I heard is a news story
Speaker 4: on your nine o'clock news that was completely and totally
Speaker 4: inaccurate and wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't hear the news story, and I prefer
Speaker 1: you take that up with the news management team. Give
Speaker 1: them a call tomorrow. I didn't hear the story.
Speaker 4: Therefore, it's difficult what I thought you were going to say, Well,
Speaker 4: you don't want me to be critical of your news department.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. Look, let me once you just listen,
Speaker 1: open your ears and listen to what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I do when nine o'clock happened, I go and I
Speaker 1: get a glass of water or something like that. So
Speaker 1: I don't know the news story you're talking about. If
Speaker 1: you have a problem with a news story, all you
Speaker 1: got to do is call the newsroom tomorrow and ask
Speaker 1: to talk with the news director, and I'm sure they'll
Speaker 1: take your call and raise whatever the question is. But
Speaker 1: you're going to tell me something that I didn't hear.
Speaker 1: If I told you listening to the nine o'clock news,
Speaker 1: what story was it, we could have a conversation about it.
Speaker 1: But you could tell me that the news department at
Speaker 1: nine o'clock could have been talking about elephants flying over Boston.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it. So if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about the topic at hand, I'd love to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about a news story
Speaker 1: that I haven't heard, I'm not going to engage in
Speaker 1: conversation with you and mislead you or the audience. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to defend what you know. If they made
Speaker 1: a mistake, bring it to their attention, but you can't
Speaker 1: bring it to my attention on the show. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do my show simple as that. If you want
Speaker 1: to talk about this raid or how it.
Speaker 4: Happened, may I move on?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 1: You could, certainly, I'm encouraging you.
Speaker 4: To do that ahead, Thank you, thank you. Okay, st
Speaker 4: Yesterday I was watching the Senate subcommittee asking questions of
Speaker 4: Trump's intelligence team. Yeah, okay, And there was a there
Speaker 4: was a senator from.
Speaker 1: Oregon, Ron Wyden is his name?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: I was trying my best to forget his name, but
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 4: He's no different than uh, the two senators you have
Speaker 4: in Massachusetts, Warren and Markey. They're both uh far left Democrats,
Speaker 4: ones on the West coast. The other two are on
Speaker 4: the East Coast. But they're both from extremely blue blue
Speaker 4: and blue areas.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you have two Democratic senators in New Hampshire.
Speaker 4: What's your point, Mark, Dan, that's a relevant to my point?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I don't know what your point is. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm asking you what. You don't have to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time, you know what, Mark, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I'm losing it with you. Mark, thanks for the call,
Speaker 1: simple as that. I don't need a lecture. I know
Speaker 1: who Ed Marky is and I know who Elizabeth Warren is.
Speaker 1: We're gonna reset, We're gonna take a break. That probably
Speaker 1: was the most wasted phone call of the night. But
Speaker 1: Mark never fails to uh to fulfill that that standard
Speaker 1: six one seven. I don't know what point he was
Speaker 1: trying to make. Maybe you do six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four to ten thirty. I got one line there in
Speaker 1: six one seven, nine three thirty. I'm getting a little
Speaker 1: impatient with callers who do not want to engage the
Speaker 1: conversation tonight, I hope some of you do. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on night Side now.
Speaker 2: Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside
Speaker 2: Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: Back to the phones. We go. Let us chat with
Speaker 1: Peter in New York. Peter, appreciate your patience you held
Speaker 1: through the news and through Mark's phone call from Derry,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Peter, Mark almost made me hang up. Sorry, Dan,
Speaker 6: I think that I don't understand one of the first
Speaker 6: basic things here. Why is the government using a public
Speaker 6: platform for encrypted calls?
Speaker 1: Well, according to what we have just heard from Caroline
Speaker 1: we Levet, the White House Press Secretary, the government considers
Speaker 1: it the most secure encrypted app.
Speaker 6: Now, I think that we got a bunch of morons
Speaker 6: in the government because because I would never let the
Speaker 6: public know what.
Speaker 5: I use, because the hackers could get in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I don't know how. I don't know how
Speaker 1: good this app is. I'm not an exit it.
Speaker 5: Okay, I use what I use What's app for calling overseas.
Speaker 1: It's called what's app? Okay? And is that secure app?
Speaker 5: Yeah? It's secure. It's secure and in the textile business
Speaker 5: we've used it for years. But let me throw something
Speaker 5: else at it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we have maybe for the fun of it here, Peter,
Speaker 1: Maybe there's someone out there who can tell us what
Speaker 1: they think is the most secure app. Obviously, this app
Speaker 1: was secure. In other words, we never would have known
Speaker 1: about this if some knucklehead hadn't looped in Jeff Goldberg,
Speaker 1: the editor in chief. Now, let's assume that they missdialed
Speaker 1: and they were looking for someone, and they put you
Speaker 1: on the phone. All of a sudden, you would have
Speaker 1: been looking at your phone and saying, what the hell
Speaker 1: is this? And you know you're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out. Goldberg thought it was
Speaker 1: a joke. He didn't think it was real until what
Speaker 1: he read at twelve clock eleven twelve o'clock came true
Speaker 1: a few minutes later, when when the bombs are actually dropped.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you. Let me you see, I
Speaker 5: have always been under the impression that when the government
Speaker 5: is making secure communications, no one else can get on
Speaker 5: that line, no one else. If they were hacking.
Speaker 1: Okay, Peter, if they were in what's called a secure skiff,
Speaker 1: And skiff is an acronym, and I'm not sure, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what that means in terms of what it
Speaker 1: stands for. But you'll often hear that there was a skiff,
Speaker 1: and it is a either a tent that I believe
Speaker 1: that when the president travels. Let's assume Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: doing an event, they have secure rooms. If in case,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump had to get on the phone and talk
Speaker 1: to Vladimir Putin instantaneously and say, hey, we just got
Speaker 1: a report that you guys have have put you know,
Speaker 1: your rockets on ready to fire mote. I'm just making
Speaker 1: this up. Okay, you can't wait around, and he could
Speaker 1: get to houton immediately. That goes back to the old
Speaker 1: hotline in the in the White House, the red phone
Speaker 1: that Jack Kennedy put in with Khrushchev. So if there
Speaker 1: is this, but as they said, they have these skiffs
Speaker 1: in Washington where these are secure rooms. When they have
Speaker 1: a crisis and they have to brief members of the Senate,
Speaker 1: they can go in that room and no one's going
Speaker 1: to the room is impenetrable. No one can hack it.
Speaker 1: On this one, I don't know enough about this app.
Speaker 1: All they can tell you is that the reason the
Speaker 1: guy was on the app, Goldberg didn't hack in. He was.
Speaker 1: They made a human error. It's like call it a
Speaker 1: wrong number. So I don't know. I wish, I wish
Speaker 1: I had someone out there who was a professional who
Speaker 1: could say to me, look, at of the ten most
Speaker 1: secure apps in this country. I'm just making this up,
Speaker 1: but if they said the ten most secure apps in
Speaker 1: this country, this one, this one isn't even listed. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. But apparently was used by
Speaker 1: the Biden administration. It's been I guess that it's used
Speaker 1: by all members of government. They got to change it
Speaker 1: up at this point because.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows what they use it. Let me leave you
Speaker 6: with another thought. Okay, who would ease have been hitting now?
Speaker 5: Afraid is over a year?
Speaker 1: More than a year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you if you're in the purchasing business
Speaker 5: from overseas, it's you hear about it a lot. And
Speaker 5: what the the freight lines have done is instead of
Speaker 5: going through the Suez and the Red Sea, they've been
Speaker 5: going through around South Africa, which causes them courted them
Speaker 5: two weeks of time and two weeks of fuel, and
Speaker 5: sooner or later they're going to hit some more.
Speaker 1: I think they hit them after the fifteenth. I think
Speaker 1: that they're continuing to hit them. If you if you
Speaker 1: look at the Times today, the Times basically has a
Speaker 1: breakdown of everything that was on the app. It's it's
Speaker 1: so Goldberg had the whole thing. He released part of
Speaker 1: it on Monday. He released the whole thing today, and
Speaker 1: they had some of the New York Time correspondents explaining
Speaker 1: what some of the pieces of information meant. And apparently
Speaker 1: they were going after one guy who was on the
Speaker 1: ground and they knew where he was and they was
Speaker 1: like a leader of the hooties. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's the number one guy or not, but they knew
Speaker 1: where he was. They knew where he was going. He
Speaker 1: was going to his girlfriend's apartment. They hit and they
Speaker 1: on the it's it said, you know building has been
Speaker 1: that he's in. They know he was in the building.
Speaker 1: The building collapse. So they had some They had some
Speaker 1: source on the ground in Yemen that was able to
Speaker 1: tell us exactly where this dude was and also where
Speaker 1: he was going. And so Waltz writes, at two pm
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, typing too fast, the first target their
Speaker 1: top missile guy. We had positive idea on him walking
Speaker 1: into his girlfriend's building. And it's grammatical error there it's
Speaker 1: now collapsed or it is now collapsed, so it's not
Speaker 1: a grammatical error, but so they knew. Vance responds to
Speaker 1: that excellent. Radcliffe responds John Radcliffe says a good start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good start. They took the guy out,
Speaker 1: They took one of the big guys out, all right,
Speaker 1: and his girlfriend, I assume and everybody else in the
Speaker 1: apartment building.
Speaker 5: Absolutely all right, thanks beer, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Soon absolutely okay, thanks much. Six
Speaker 1: one seven thirty six one seven nine three one thirty Again,
Speaker 1: please don't be intimidated. I get mad at a couple
Speaker 1: of callers here because they were going off in another direction, uh,
Speaker 1: and trying to don't let them spoil the conversation. I
Speaker 1: would simply ask you to stay with us, stay with
Speaker 1: us here on night side.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Susan in wall famous next, Hi Susan, welcome, You're next
Speaker 1: one night side, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Hi Dan, Hey Susan.
Speaker 7: Oh waiyah.
Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. I've had some interesting calls tonight, some
Speaker 1: really yeah.
Speaker 7: I know. I was like listening to the one that
Speaker 7: started arguing with you or something.
Speaker 1: He always he's one of these guys. He's he's he's
Speaker 1: a different sort of guy, a different sort of person,
Speaker 1: and you can't even have a conversation with them. It
Speaker 1: was like, sign w nine, he's going to use my
Speaker 1: program my program to criticize w BC's nine PM newscast.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's talking about. If he
Speaker 1: thinks I'm sitting here listening to the newscast, I might
Speaker 1: listen to the first story, and then I'm I may
Speaker 1: have to use the restroom, I may have to go
Speaker 1: get a drink of water. I may need to want
Speaker 1: to stretch my legs. Yes, but he's the smartest guy
Speaker 1: in the world, and so therefore I need to I
Speaker 1: need to be instructed by him and told that we
Speaker 1: have two senators here in Massachusetts who are on the
Speaker 1: progressive end of the Democratic Party. What's that got to
Speaker 1: do we're talking about anyway, go ahead, what what's your
Speaker 1: thought here on the on this raid.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just you know, I hope that Social Security doesn't
Speaker 7: go out and my home MEDICID doesn't go out, because
Speaker 7: I have both of them, and you know, I live
Speaker 7: by myself, and you know, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm going to this social Security
Speaker 1: is not going to go out. President. If President Trump
Speaker 1: wants to commit political suicide, then social security should he
Speaker 1: should cut social Security. The fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion that that is the third rail of politics,
Speaker 1: and he said himself, there's going to be no cutbacks
Speaker 1: in socialcurity. What they're going to do with social security
Speaker 1: is they are going to probably raise the retirement age
Speaker 1: a couple of months or maybe even a half a year.
Speaker 1: And they're trying to you know, which they have already done.
Speaker 1: It used to be that retirement age was sixty five
Speaker 1: and as sixty six, and I think it's up to
Speaker 1: sixty seven in a couple of months. So he will
Speaker 1: raise it up on people who are now working. Medicare
Speaker 1: is not going to get cut I mean again, these politicians,
Speaker 1: none of them. If they just want to, you know, lose,
Speaker 1: they can do that.
Speaker 9: It would be really that's true.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you should lose any sleep over this.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Are you on so scurty? Now?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: I am? Okay, What what time I have I get
Speaker 1: so scurty because I've I've worked for a long time
Speaker 1: and even though I'm still working, I I'm able to
Speaker 1: uh take you know, I'm over the minimum age to take.
Speaker 1: Trust me of that, Susan. So I get my SO
Speaker 1: security check the second Wednesday of every month. When did
Speaker 1: your so scurity check?
Speaker 7: Arrive, I say, I get mine. The first and the
Speaker 7: third I get too, S S I and S S
Speaker 7: D I.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, okay, so every month you get the first.
Speaker 5: And the third.
Speaker 1: Did you get him in February when after Trump was inaugurated.
Speaker 7: Yes, I did. I got him in March too.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so we're two months. For two months, you're
Speaker 1: going to be just fine. Okay, that's so you don't
Speaker 1: let you You're going to read all sorts of arguments here.
Speaker 1: You're going to read all sorts of people who are
Speaker 1: saying different things, you know, don't allow them to discomfort you.
Speaker 1: These are programs that you have earned your money for
Speaker 1: that you're paid into that others are paid into. You'll.
Speaker 1: You'll get your you'll you'll get your so security checks
Speaker 1: and UH and your and your Medicare and all of that,
Speaker 1: and so please don't worry. I I really mean that.
Speaker 1: And I hope that you're listening to me, and you'll
Speaker 1: take my word for it.
Speaker 7: I'll listen to you. I I just started listening to
Speaker 7: your program again, you know, after after a while, after
Speaker 7: a long time. So now I have it on and
Speaker 7: I'm listening so well. I appreciate that and I just
Speaker 7: would call up and say hi, and well thank you, and.
Speaker 1: I will always tell you the truth, okay, And and.
Speaker 7: The truth is I believe you, I believe.
Speaker 1: But also the reason it is the truth is that
Speaker 1: if if Donald Trump did that, you would have you
Speaker 1: would have people marching on the Capitol for very different reasons.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And so that's not gonna happen. Uh, in my humble opinion.
Speaker 1: And he's also on the record. It's not like Donald
Speaker 1: Trump on the record said something like well, I don't
Speaker 1: have an intention now to do anything. He said, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And even though some politicians can can
Speaker 1: mislead us, that's not the sort of thing a politicians
Speaker 1: going to most lead us on. Be well, Susan, Okay,
Speaker 1: and keep me posted next month. Okay. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: your checks and I'm gonna hopefully get mine as well. Thanks, Thanks, Susan.
Speaker 10: All Right, Hey, I're gonna take a quick break here,
Speaker 10: let's get back to more calls six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 10: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Your reaction to the big story. This is the story
Speaker 1: of the week. I could not have anticipated this story.
Speaker 1: But this is the story of the week, and it
Speaker 1: is It is royal Washington, d C. The Democrats have
Speaker 1: one take on it, the Republicans have another. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to look at it as coldly as I can. Let's
Speaker 1: try to stay focused on it. Even though Mark wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about the nine pm WBZ newscast, God only
Speaker 1: knows what he was going to say. He's not my
Speaker 1: most credible caller. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2: It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: All right, it's right back to the phones. We go,
Speaker 1: gonna go to Theodore down in Maryland, theatore next to Knightsager.
Speaker 11: Right ahead, Sir, I wanted to know if I got
Speaker 11: comment on what the lady said about Social Security.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 11: I worked there for fifteen years and the work was
Speaker 11: very satisfying. We got people calling every day, changing addresses
Speaker 11: direct deposit on the thirty first of March. I'm sure
Speaker 11: the lady may not know, but on the thirty first
Speaker 11: of March, any of your listeners who want to change
Speaker 11: their bank information, they're gonna have to go into the
Speaker 11: Social Security Office. There's a law that say they have
Speaker 11: to notify people like me and you that they're gonna
Speaker 11: close offices. They're closing forty seven offices across the country.
Speaker 11: Now we don't get a notice about it. This means
Speaker 11: people are gonna be lined up at the office. People
Speaker 11: are gonna have to wait several hours to get through.
Speaker 11: And they're cutting staff at the Social Security building. They're
Speaker 11: laying people off, they're firing people.
Speaker 1: So when you know that, we know that, Theodore, I
Speaker 1: understand that, But we know that. All of just saying
Speaker 1: is is that that lot of the stuff, which I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of because I'm kind of like you
Speaker 1: old school, but a lot of the stuff now will
Speaker 1: be done online. And if, uh if, if it doesn't
Speaker 1: work the Trump administration, if if what if? The if?
Speaker 1: What you paint as a picture that there's going to
Speaker 1: be people standing out in the cold or whatever they'll have,
Speaker 1: they'll have to adjust to it. I mean they're not crazy. Well, see,
Speaker 1: there are things that I have to do. I have
Speaker 1: to on my uh from my job. I have to
Speaker 1: use a computer. Okay, I had to learn how to
Speaker 1: use the computer.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 11: But but one point, then, Dan, I can't put words
Speaker 11: in your mouth, but you you you you always try
Speaker 11: to soothe your people. You don't to me, you don't
Speaker 11: use the right language when you tell these people trust you,
Speaker 11: and when you look at who else you're telling you
Speaker 11: the trust.
Speaker 5: Well, hold on.
Speaker 1: Excuse me one, excuse me theater if I could, She
Speaker 1: said to me she was concerned she wasn't going to
Speaker 1: get her check. Okay, Now, we could freak people out
Speaker 1: if you want. But you know as well as I
Speaker 1: do that that woman who told me Susan that she
Speaker 1: gets her check on the first and the third of
Speaker 1: the month, he gets she gets a so Security check,
Speaker 1: and she gets some sort of uh a disability check.
Speaker 1: She's gonna get both of those checks on April first
Speaker 1: and third. She's gonna get those checks on May first
Speaker 1: and third. I wasn't trying to soothe her. I was
Speaker 1: trying to basically say to her, Look, you'll get your checks,
Speaker 1: that's all. Now, maybe you'll have to somehow go to
Speaker 1: a library and have someone help you if you want
Speaker 1: to change your direct deposit bank. I'm not thrilled about
Speaker 1: that because that's a pain of the neck for me.
Speaker 1: I've been to SOID security offices and I've sat on
Speaker 1: my butt in those offices for thirty minutes or an
Speaker 1: hour and a half.
Speaker 11: So anyway, well wish stretched that out, Dan to two
Speaker 11: or three hours, and you just see it.
Speaker 1: They may see what it Happenedt's see what happened, Theodore.
Speaker 1: Why don't we wait and see what happens? That's your prediction.
Speaker 1: I can say to you, well, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: wait five hours. My question to you, here's my question
Speaker 1: to you. For the woman who's listening. You used to
Speaker 1: work for Social Security. Was there anything that I said
Speaker 1: to her that was incorrect? They have raised the retirement
Speaker 1: age slightly, so people no longer can retire with full
Speaker 1: benefits at sixty five as they used to. Am I
Speaker 1: correct on that theatre.
Speaker 11: That's true, But let me tell you something. Would you
Speaker 11: just see it? You said that's your prediction. Then people
Speaker 11: listen to you and they need facts. This change in
Speaker 11: social Security. You may think it's hyperbole, but this change
Speaker 11: is going to cause a massive disruption in people's lives
Speaker 11: the direct.
Speaker 1: If that is true, Theodore, If that is true, If
Speaker 1: that is true, I want you to call me back,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me Dan, I told
Speaker 1: you on at eleven thirty nine on March twenty third, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: March twenty sixth, that there was gonna be a man.
Speaker 1: I want you to call me back, Theodore, but you
Speaker 1: cannot tell me something is true. I can tell you
Speaker 1: the sun's going to rise in the east tomorrow, that's true.
Speaker 1: But I can't tell you if there's going to be
Speaker 1: a traffic action that's going to tie up the city
Speaker 1: of Boston. Do you want to talk about the other
Speaker 1: issue in front of us time, because we've gone five
Speaker 1: minutes on something which is which is a little more
Speaker 1: different from what we wanted to talk.
Speaker 11: Just in closing, yeah, I want you to pull up
Speaker 11: the Commerce secretary who hit Social Security. Go on the assistant.
Speaker 11: He said on one of the councils one of the
Speaker 11: A conference, he said, you know, I got a ninety
Speaker 11: fer old grandmother. If she got hurt, didn't get her
Speaker 11: a check, he wouldn't say nothing. But most people if
Speaker 11: they didn't get their check, and they thought of screaming.
Speaker 11: Those the people who we should not give Social Security
Speaker 11: continue their benefits because there asgreement about something and that's
Speaker 11: they're wrong. So Dan, I'm just to me raising an
Speaker 11: alarm that if you look at this administration and the
Speaker 11: history of the man who hits it. People should be
Speaker 11: not afraid. They should be greatly concerned because it's worse
Speaker 11: than you think.
Speaker 1: Well, you might see them. Well, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: You listen to my show all the time. Okay, I
Speaker 1: have criticized this administration when they're wrong, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to wait for them to be wrong before I criticize them.
Speaker 1: That's all. Okay, it's as simple as that. We can
Speaker 1: have a disagreement. We have them all the time. But
Speaker 1: I want you to call me back when your prediction,
Speaker 1: and it's a prediction, and a prediction, by definition, is
Speaker 1: not a fact. A fact is something that has occurred.
Speaker 1: A prediction is something that you think might occur. When
Speaker 1: your prediction turns out to be a fact, come on
Speaker 1: back and call me and and I will acknowledge you
Speaker 1: a correct of that. I hope no one is inconvenience.
Speaker 1: Will there be some people inconvenience, sure? Sure, But but
Speaker 1: I don't want people in my audience to be going
Speaker 1: to bed tonight thinking they're not gonna get their their
Speaker 1: SoC Security check, because that, as a fact I can
Speaker 1: tell you, is not true. They will get this.
Speaker 11: So scurity one closing point, they said they're not gonna
Speaker 11: cut social security. Now, let me explain when they when
Speaker 11: when when they said they're not gonna tax those securities.
Speaker 11: When a guy's working and they gets so security at
Speaker 11: a certain age, he can make all the one when
Speaker 11: he says they're not gonna tax solid security. Those taxes
Speaker 11: that people make when they're making Social Security and they
Speaker 11: have a certain limit, those taxes go back into the
Speaker 11: Social Security Trust Fund. When they stop taxing people who
Speaker 11: are making so security and working, that's gonna help deplete
Speaker 11: the fund even more so. They are very they're very
Speaker 11: subtle about what they say.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Theodore, I think you have become
Speaker 1: so anti Trump that that that that you just you
Speaker 1: want to go off and uh and and criticize them
Speaker 1: for everything. I mean criticizing Trump.
Speaker 11: I'm anti injustice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I'm in favor of injustice, Theodore,
Speaker 1: because that's how we disagree. I love injustice. I did
Speaker 1: the injustice of getting those guys out of prison who
Speaker 1: have been wrongfully uh convicted by corrupt FBI agents. That
Speaker 1: was my best example of me supporting injustice. Give me
Speaker 1: a break, the Theatore, Give me a break, I'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. Good night. I mean I'm in favor
Speaker 1: of I'm in favorite justice. I mean, how about that?
Speaker 1: Are you a favor of truth? Justice and the American Wave? Theodore?
Speaker 1: I would want you know, come on, come on. I've
Speaker 1: had a bunch of tough callers tonight, some of them
Speaker 1: who I think have have. I should have put Mark
Speaker 1: from Derry, New Hampshire on with Theodore theaterore. At least
Speaker 1: normally I can talk to I couldn't talk to him tonight.
Speaker 1: Back on night's side. No, I'm not gonna go back
Speaker 1: on nights. They're gonna be right back to the calls.
Speaker 1: Bob and Worcester. Bob, it's only forty three. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you in it before the break. Go ahead, Bob.
Speaker 8: The best secure site is whatsappened. And the reason is, yeah,
Speaker 8: WhatsApp It's called Piet or Pierre. And what that means
Speaker 8: is nobody can break in and the phone calls cannot
Speaker 8: be traced. The problem with it is the hackers use
Speaker 8: this all the time because they know their phone cannot
Speaker 8: be traced.
Speaker 1: Well, if that is true, and you say it with
Speaker 1: a ring of credibility, then I have learned something. I
Speaker 1: would assume that there's someone within the government, and I
Speaker 1: believe that there are people within the government who know
Speaker 1: a lot more about this than I do. I would
Speaker 1: hope that someone within the government would know that, and
Speaker 1: that they if it is true, and I suspect that
Speaker 1: it very well might be true, I would hope that
Speaker 1: the government switches to that sooner rather than later.
Speaker 8: I just don't understand is why they're sending this kind
Speaker 8: of information on a web page and a website and
Speaker 8: a phone that is used by every civilian everywhere I
Speaker 8: go on dating.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. You know more about
Speaker 1: this than I do. Okay, The information as it is
Speaker 1: transferred from one person to the other is encrypted, correct, Okay?
Speaker 1: Have you ever received materials that are encrypted?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 12: Oh, okay, well I have I have, Okay, and I
Speaker 12: guarantee you that if something is encrypted, they are not
Speaker 12: going to be able to break into that encryption.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is when I need
Speaker 1: to receive information from my accountant on my taxes, it
Speaker 1: is sent to me in an encrypted form, so I
Speaker 1: have to know my password to unencrypted. You understand what
Speaker 1: I mean by that, right?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay? So if they sent my information to you by mistake.
Speaker 1: Let's say and you said, Oho, I wonder what this is.
Speaker 1: In order for you to break into that encrypted information
Speaker 1: which was sent to you by mistake, you would have
Speaker 1: to know my password if it was intended for me.
Speaker 1: Would you How would you get my password?
Speaker 5: It would be difficult exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what encryption is, okay. Now, in this particular instance,
Speaker 1: the reason that the reporter was on the chain, if
Speaker 1: you will, okay, was because some knucklehead put his number
Speaker 1: on the chain. So, in other words, let's assume that
Speaker 1: I'm doing a zoom call tomorrow with my accountant and
Speaker 1: we're going to have an encrypted conversation, and I buy
Speaker 1: mistake put you on the zoom. I'm an idiot because
Speaker 1: I just basically have defeated the security purpose of the conversation.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened here. Do you understand that, well,
Speaker 1: no one hacked into this. It wasn't like this guy
Speaker 1: from the Atlantic Monthly hacked into it. He was inadvertently
Speaker 1: invited into it.
Speaker 8: Now, Uh, this knucklehead did he decide to use a signal?
Speaker 1: I believe that the decision decision to signal, the decision
Speaker 1: to use signal I believe was made from what I
Speaker 1: can see, and I don't have the investigatory powers. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but I'm not that good. Of the United States government.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Hegsath the Department of Defense who
Speaker 1: chose signal okay.
Speaker 11: Administration, No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I believe that Biden, the Biden administration reportedly used that. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I believe that this particular uh uh, you know,
Speaker 1: signal chat how whatever you want to call it, was choosed,
Speaker 1: was chosen. No, Actually it was Waltz who chose it,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at it, says team establishing a principals
Speaker 1: group on February or March thirteenth, that's Thursday, March thirteenth,
Speaker 1: establishing I'm looking at it here a principals group for
Speaker 1: coordination on hoodies, particularly for over the next seventy two hours.
Speaker 1: My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a tiger team
Speaker 1: of deputies agency chief of staff level, following up with
Speaker 1: the meeting in the sit room situation room this morning
Speaker 1: for action items, and we'll be sending that out later
Speaker 1: this evening. Please provide the best staff point of contact
Speaker 1: from your team for us to coordinate with over the
Speaker 1: next couple of days and over the weekend. Thanks. Okay.
Speaker 1: A tiger team is a group of people assembled for
Speaker 1: a particular task by the National Security Council. Here this
Speaker 1: scording New York Times, mister Waltz is talking about bringing
Speaker 1: together aids to the Principles to work specific problems related
Speaker 1: to the stepped up campaign against the hoodies. That's according
Speaker 1: to the New York Times.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I understand. Now, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you do, and I understand it
Speaker 1: to that extent. All right, Bob, appreciate your call. You
Speaker 1: were one of the most rational callers of the night.
Speaker 1: I thank you very much. I mean that. Thanks stuck
Speaker 1: to you said good night. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: There we go, folks. We get about six minutes left.
Speaker 1: I got three callers. Nobody's going to get more than
Speaker 1: two minutes. It's as simple as that. John and Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: you are next on Nightside.
Speaker 9: Go right ahead, John, Well, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 9: You and I would agree that mister Goldberg did the
Speaker 9: right thing. Yes, in this case, correct, he did. Yes,
Speaker 9: he did all right. When Pete Heegsas attacked mister Goldberg
Speaker 9: on television and also deny that any war plans or
Speaker 9: discuss that was a false That was.
Speaker 1: The right question two part questions that you just asked me.
Speaker 1: The attack was gratuitous and unnecessary, and if Heseth was smart,
Speaker 1: he should have commended him for not releasing the materials earlier.
Speaker 1: There were certainly specifics there. I was in the military,
Speaker 1: but I was not at a level where I could
Speaker 1: call that war plans or not. But I would agree
Speaker 1: with you on the first part of it, and I'll
Speaker 1: withhold my comment on the second part because he described
Speaker 1: what he described what was about to happen, uh.
Speaker 9: And we that were going to be used.
Speaker 1: Yes, he did right, But again war war plans could
Speaker 1: be whether or not the word plans is appropriate. There
Speaker 1: is what he could sneak off the hook.
Speaker 9: And mister Waltz when he went on the lor Ingrid,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry to mention that another media figure. He went
Speaker 9: on another media Ye, another another media let's say a
Speaker 9: friendly meet yeah program.
Speaker 1: Very friendly to walls. Chef.
Speaker 9: Go ahead took the administration.
Speaker 1: We got thirty seconds left, go ahead, he.
Speaker 9: Again, he attacked the reporter also even implied that somehow
Speaker 9: the importer had had conspired to be added to the call.
Speaker 1: Perhaps absolutely wrong. The mistake. I want an investigation, and
Speaker 1: the mistake will probably prove it was either Walls or
Speaker 1: one of his aides.
Speaker 9: And tell and Pausey Gabbard. Uh, would you say that
Speaker 9: she was candid in her initial testimony?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: No, she candid?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I said no. And John, we just
Speaker 1: did two minutes. I have two other people. If you
Speaker 1: called earlier, I'll give you more time. I'm done.
Speaker 9: But all the candor and jo would expect from.
Speaker 1: John, I've done. John. I'm going to be polite and
Speaker 1: tell you call early and give you much more time.
Speaker 1: I got two other people. I got to accommodate. Thank you. Uh, Terry,
Speaker 1: you got two minutes. Go fact, you had about a
Speaker 1: minute and a half. Terry, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 13: Okay, Hi. Dam So, this is a very serious breach, obviously,
Speaker 13: but it happened. They need to own it, they need
Speaker 13: to apologize for it, they need to fix it. They
Speaker 13: need to make sure that that app is never used again.
Speaker 13: But here's my concern, Dance, were all of the people's
Speaker 13: phones that were connected to this conversation now hackable because it's.
Speaker 2: Out no one was hacked.
Speaker 1: No one was hacked here.
Speaker 13: Well, no, I understand that.
Speaker 1: But now I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: the phones that are used by the officials are hackable.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they Someone might tell me all
Speaker 1: phones are hackable, or someone might be able to tell
Speaker 1: me these aren't. But I don't know the answer to that. Terry,
Speaker 1: I hate to do this to you, but I got
Speaker 1: one other person he's going to get about thirty seconds.
Speaker 13: You have a wonderful lesson. You're nice dance, you need
Speaker 13: too good to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Terry, talked to you soon. Tony. What have we
Speaker 1: got left? Rob? How much?
Speaker 11: Well? I, Tony, go right ahead.
Speaker 1: You got thirty seconds, Tony, go ahead?
Speaker 9: All right.
Speaker 14: I'm not as first in it. I thought I was
Speaker 14: about the whole situation. So I'm gonna withhold my comment.
Speaker 14: And I had to want to suggest that maybe they
Speaker 14: stopped using all these applications and go back sitting in
Speaker 14: a room with the coda silence.
Speaker 1: Let's get Maxwell smart, Maxwell smart, the coda silent. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Tony, that was yours? The best call of
Speaker 1: the night. It was the quickest and it actually made
Speaker 1: me giggle. Thank you so much. That was a good lie.
Speaker 14: Thank you you had tonight. I did you need a giggle?
Speaker 1: Thanks Buddy, I appreciate its my favorite caller of the night.
Speaker 1: You and Terry. Thanks, talk to you soon. Good night.
Speaker 1: All right, we had done for the night. I want
Speaker 1: to thank Rob. Rob. I don't know where you found
Speaker 1: some of them tonight, but god, they were funny. I
Speaker 1: want to thank Marita. I want to thank all the callers,
Speaker 1: including Mark from New Hampshire and uh and my friend
Speaker 1: and I say that respect thankfully, my friend Theodore from Maryland.
Speaker 1: All end us always, all dogs, all cats, all pets
Speaker 1: go to heaven. That's my pale Charlie ray Is who
Speaker 1: passed fifteen years ago in February. That's why your pets
Speaker 1: are who were passed. They loved you and you love them.
Speaker 1: I do believe you'll see them again. We'll see it
Speaker 1: again tomorrow night on Nightside. I will be on Facebook
Speaker 1: nice side with Dan Ray in about two minutes. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to say and I will see
Speaker 1: you tomorrow night. Have a great Thursday. Everyone. Good night,