Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentle and welcome back to the and
Or Season two reviews. This week, episode four to six.
I'm the fashion designer Tress now, and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I'm lights out.
Speaker 3: I have the one hour of Taylor Field.
Speaker 2: Hell, here you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we'll got as far as but tell you
gotta vent. You were so wrong about that relationship those
like in predictions, you're so far off of all what's
happening now.
Speaker 3: I never saw it coming there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get there. But yeah, obviously, if you haven't
listened last week's episode, go back, because we did break
one of the reason. Maybe you're because I know, I
feel like this show in particular, everybody knows watching at
a different speed because the three episode drop, like you
know usually even like the Eastern like gua people, even
if like Daredevil's Droping's okay, it's a nine one episode finished, done.
But now it's like, oh, I've watched one, I've watched one,
half watched two. So obviously maybe you're still wondering. I
don't why you would have clicked on this. Maybe you're refuse.
Who knows. We'll go back and check out that episode,
big thank you, because we'll probably talk about on our
next newscast. But last few weeks, the episodes we've been pumping,
I've just been jumping to the top ten, So big
thanking everyone listened to and or the episodes one to
three of you, because that went to number eight without
even being out for a week, which is pretty good.
So we appreciate everyone that listened on. Hopefully you're staying
on for the next three weeks. We'll be breaking it
all down like the past episode, in the past seasons,
all the good stuff. So mister Pats start us off
with a usual as usual nonspoort, thoughts, will take a break,
a lit'll add break for people if they've not seen
all the episodes, and then we'll get into spoilers to
have a nice warning. But Kirkland, what do you think
of four to six.
Speaker 2: Four six, Yeah, I know, I think it's still among
the best Star Wars content I've ever seen in my
life of just storytelling, Like the writing is just is
so good and gripping and enticing. I think there's just
so much. I feel like something that really hit me
this week versus last week, and it's something that they've
kind of had throughout the whole show. But I'm really
feeling it now, focusing on certain characters and kind of
the situation that they're in. I just feel like they
do such a good job at showing the like the
clauster phobia of like what the empire is on like everyone,
Like there's just like seeing certain characters and they just
feel so trapped, even though it's not like if they
are seen like they're going to prison, it's just like
the whole everything being like we're entering this this empire,
you know, like it's the emperor running the show now,
like it's it's we're still kind of in a transition period,
but like not not really, I don't know. It just
seems like from the rebellion standpoint, there's it's just like
they're just being strangled and it's like you're, yeah, you're
trying to like oxygen.
Speaker 1: We're like in the final stages of full dictatorship, you know,
like you're right on the precipice of everything's gone in
the town when the town's like, oh, something bad's happened here.
Oh how do we stop it? Well, everyone knows it's
bad and we can't really stop. It's like, oh, so
we're at that point where you're just kind of you're
you're not fucked, but you're about to be fucked. Yeah,
you know, you're you know, love is out.
Speaker 2: The avalanche happened, you're like buried beneath the snow, but
you can still kind of see light. But it's like
every it's just like it's just closed in a little bit. Yeah, exactly.
And I think they do such a good job of
just giving that feel throughout the whole. It doesn't matter
which character I'm falling. I feel like that is just
the overall vibe of the galaxy right now, like especially
people that are, you know, pushing for the rebellion, Like, yeah,
I think they're doing a really good job of just
hammering home on that. And yeah, no, just just give
them credit because it's just so good. I feel like
this batch of episodes I'm a little bit less high
on than I was last week, and that's just because
minor spoiler, we have a lot more Mond stuff last
week and I was just loving that. So again, minor
spoilers more of a back seat I think in this
in this three for collection of episodes here, but everything
else I think is really really solid. There's a couple
of things I like, I don't want to say I
have problems with it. Just seems like a little bit
messy the way they went about it. But maybe I
just completely misintered did what they were going for. So,
you know, when we discuss it, maybe a little clear
it over. But yeah, no, I think for the most
part it is still really good. They have really good
just stakes at play with. Again, doesn't matter which character
or following. It seems like just everyone is like do
or die on their missions, Like it doesn't matter if
someone's gotta I don't know. Yeah, no, I won't say
anything that's a spoiler. So but yeah, thumbs up, still
recommend it. It's still fantastic. Two more weeks is that it? Yep,
it's too soon. I know that six episodes of content,
but still it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just did six weeks.
Speaker 1: Halfway through the season.
Speaker 2: We'll chop up every episode release it individually, you know,
for an episodic release. It was interesting though. I'm was
just talking with a couple of people my day to day,
you know, met with the good old Patreon Tyler and
we're talking about and Or, and I was asking just
people have come across on if they're watching it. No
one really even knew that this came out. Tyler was
out the point that like he feels like it was
like a marketing thing, like he really didn't even know
it was out, And I'm like, I knew it was
coming out, and I still feel like it was kind
of a lack of whatever just getting it out there.
The three episode release. I think it's a good idea
for this show, just because they can be pretty dry
and just going weak to week. I mean, I'm someone
that loves the content, but just looking at as like
a general viewer, I feel like they might really taper
off on it. So I do understand why they did
the three episode release for that reason. But yeah, just
even just Star Wars fans that I that I know,
maybe I work with, like they just they just really
had no idea this was even out, And I'm just
praising the gospel to it. But I don't know. I
guess we interact with people that watch this show, so
it's kind of it's kind of hard to judge with that.
But my my wrong though, it's just like the marketing
was like just non existent for the show.
Speaker 1: Like I it's I feel like that's like a good
bread and butter in the future, because I feel like
marketing is just so tough nowadays because it's something we
have all time with algorithms or there's your feeds dedicated
to you. When I go on YouTube and they're like,
I remember when I was on the podcast, but if
like every week on YouTube it's like Skeleton Crew Live. Now,
it's like, well, I'm already watching that, like you're paying,
like whatever, the This is why I don't think some
of the stuff works, Like the algorithm whoever you're paying,
it's not working. I'm already watching Skeleton Crew like this.
I feel like most of the ads I get is
for I won't say most, but I'll say like sixty
percent of the stuff is I'm already subscribed this, I'm
already watching this. So I feel like it's like, oh,
they search in or this and that, make sure they're
watching and or. But it's I guess that could be
something right where someone my mom, which she wouldn't right,
but like she searches and or like oh hey, and
then now they're like they got to hit her over
the head, like make sure you should watch watch, watch,
But I just don't think my mom would search and
or they would just talk to one of us and
be like okay, cool and then move on. And I
really don't know what the one to three, like the
three episodes, if that helps or hurt it, because I
think it would stop from tapering off. But do people
look at that and I know it sounds weird, but
then they go oh three where like if it's right
before bed, it's like, oh, well, there's one episode, I'll
watch that. And it's that thing of like, oh, you
won't watch a movie, but people watch three episodes of
a show. But I wonder if it's that that's because
it's not a conscious thing of like, oh, I'm just
watching a season. I could stop any time where the
three episodes might feel like I got I get through this.
But I don't know, and I don't know how much
they paid for it, because I know they want it
out there. But at the same time, it's like, I
don't know what the numbers are. I feel like the
numbers would be pretty similar to season Uh yeah, season one.
I think you might get a few more because there's
prestige and it was nominated for Emmys, so I think
there might be a few people that go, oh, I
might check that out, but it's also problem. It's just
so much shit nowadays, you know, like video games and
TV shows. It's just like, I don't know, and I
think Star Wars hype is I got an all time low.
So even people that are excited for Star Wars and
maybe and or it's like, oh, I'll get to it eventually.
Or again, it's still a character we like, we know,
Like these episodes are great, don't get me wrong. We
still know his story. Like you just like plug in
Rogue one. You know, this guy's down on the beach
like trying to fuck gin. You know that's what's happened.
That was her name, right, Yeah, I'm gonna maybe rewatch
after this, but I.
Speaker 2: Want to watch it. Watching this that was like these
two episodes, I'm like down, I'm definitely gonna finish off.
I think like once we round off this season, I'm
gonna plug on Rogue one for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I'm the same and I'll go because
I think my thoughts are pretty identical to Kurriclans. I
don't know where his lower points are. I have some
lower points. It's definitely it's a more related episode three,
just some stuff that felt kind of predictable, and I
won't say it got to cheesy, but it was some
of the more weaker and or stuff I've seen before.
Nothing that's like this is a big mark, but it's
almost something that would make me question of like can
I see the next few arcs? But I'm like, oh,
I don't like as of right now. I was like, oh,
this is a perfect ten. It's like this storyline is
a little just a little lacking, and I feel like
the show is usually great at really like layering things
and making me feel justified, and all these characters are
acting this way as X Y and Z. There's just
an event that happened. I was like, this feels very
melodramatic for the sake of being melodramatic, and I don't
think they set it up in the right way. But
other than that that, yeah, great stuff going on. Yeah
there's a little less mon so that was disappointing, but
great stuff going on with Diidra and Cerial. I'm really
much digging that. And Diego Luna was tons of fun
this episode because there's on episode in particular where he's
undercover but he gets to have I think a bit
more of a flashy like good time, which doesn't really
happen with and Or. I guess we got that a
little bit last week too, so maybe the season they're
trying to give him a bit more levity, but this
was just a different type to the point it's like, oh,
I love like he should be a Bond villain or
something like that. You know, that's what I want, like
him and stellin Scars guard him as is like Luthor
the wig, Like that's like one. Then we get Stelling
next week we get Diego. So no, I think it
was still great, but I definitely still prefer last week's
one to three. I think this was weaker for not
just because the lack of Mond, just like a few
other things, but I think it did a great job
of It's one of my favorite you know, tropes and
story story, wood, Hollywood writing. And that's why The Dark
Knight's my favorite movie. Is there's Batman, Joe, Gordon, and
Dent and all of them have the same goal, but
it's all like how far are you willing to get
that goal? What are you willing to compromise? And not
a big spoil. He's on the thumbnail saw Guerero's back,
So I feel like between and or Saw and Luthen,
you're really seeing three sides. You know, it doesn't make sense.
There's no three side coin, but three sides of a
different story of how far men are willing to go
and what they're willing to sacrifice and what is the
line and what they're willing to cross. And someone like
Saw that's almost like an outright I'll say in quotations monster,
where Luthan is like, oh, yeah, like I'm trying to
not be like that, but he's just being you know, yeah,
I'll stop because the spoilers. But that's what I'm enjoying
is that dynamic of you know, there's just certain things
you're gonna have to choose when you're getting into this
level of the mud. There's no more oh well, I
want to do this and this. It's like no, if
you want, you're either fully in you're fully out, because,
like you said, Kirk, when we're at the point where, okay,
we're about to get into the real shit, you can't
be halfway halfway. And that's where there's one character that
is and you know, there's a conversation about that, and
it's just so that's what I'm enjoying, even though, like
I said, I think one to three was stronger. So
what about you, Tayfield, Oh.
Speaker 3: You know this this arc, it gave me the the
vibes of like German occupied France, just when we're looking
at a certain thing with you. Yeah, I was there,
got a lot of PTSD.
Speaker 1: Your past life, but there is again not not well.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can say that that's a spoiler.
Speaker 2: It's like the French. It's not French, but yes, Taylor,
you okay, it's it's like French, but changed a little bit.
I swear they were talking German at one point, because
it sounded like I was like, no, no, no, okay, it's
a different language, different language. But ye, German occupied France.
It's like changed the exactly exactly it.
Speaker 3: But I quite enjoyed the UH this arc. I don't
know which one I would enjoy more between this one
and last week's UH. I think this. Last week's definitely
felt like it was just had a little more hype
behind it, a little bit more fire under under the cushion,
But this one had a little bit more of a
slow burn to it. I would have loved a little
bit more Mone but I really enjoyed how things kind
of picked up, and there was like one small confrontation
between two characters that I really really enjoyed seeing. Me
all of the serial stuff was just fucking wild, but
I like, I like how it's not It's not like
shattered and broken off. I feel like in terms of
skipping a year and picking up the story and kind
of getting into this this narrative again, it did a
pretty okay job, and I'm happy with how cohesive it was,
because I feel like it could have been very messy
if it was not executed properly, but they did okay.
I had a few expectations going into this episode, thinking okay, well,
between this one and arc three, I feel like this
is either gonna tackle some things. Unfortunately, one thing that
I was looking forward to was in the time jump,
which is very shitty because I would have loved to
have seen that visually in these three episodes, and that
was one of the highlights for me going into the show,
was to think was thinking, Hey, I'm gonna get to
see this, It's gonna be awesome. But unfortunately that's not
the case. But I'll highlight that when we get into
spoilers but yeah, I think where we go from here,
I really don't know, because at this point from the trailers,
I feel like we've seen everything. There might be a
couple of things that are left that I'm overlooking, but.
Speaker 2: Usually when we do, we're gonna jump a year. That's
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're spot on there. I like at this
point usually in a TV show, when you get to
that point, when you've we've seen everything so far that
they showed in the trailers and that it's just at
this point it's it's uncharted territory, that's when it gets
really exciting for me. So who knows what we're gonna
see next.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the trails that well, so I'll just
have to take you by fake there that you're correct
on that, because I have no idea.
Speaker 3: But I don't so a lot of trailer shots this
This this arc had most of the shots from the
trailers that I remember over the first arc.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, anything else from this episode nonspots we want
to talk about.
Speaker 2: I don't recall really shouting out last week, but I
feel like the score in general really just stood out
to me in this episode or series of episodes. It
it has like the atmosphere of Star Wars music, but
then like mostly just like the like the noir, like
Cloak and Dagger, like you know, occupied France music.
Speaker 1: As there was some punk rock in there a little bit,
right that happened last week with I guess there was
some club music, but there's always like a little more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at like a house party, you know, at
some sequence minor spoiler, and like the music was definitely
going back to where was with the with the mond
Rave sequence, and I loved it. You know, I was
like cringing for a lyric to drop, but it didn't
drop a lyric. So I think that's the best type
of just air quote modern inclusion, like modern music inclusion.
Star Wars is like just just keep lyrics out of it,
and it feels spacey in a sort of way, or
to have like alien lyrics. You know. I didn't really
play Jedi Fallen Order, but I remember the opening very
well and it had like just some alien song going
fuck yeah. I get some more of that in these
Star Wars shows. Get the French language, the Gorman language
in there.
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have a good time there. Like this person is staying
in the show. Here's one hour, one hour now, dear,
just a person like she just lays there and then
she's like I'm done, you know, like that's what that was.
Speaker 3: Zero, she's packing, Yeah, cere else is doing that.
Speaker 1: So uh, let's let's start with those two. Because very interesting, dynamic,
interesting journey for Zero where he you know, he's doing
his uh semi related I he's not with the IB
but he's with the Empire. He's on Gorman. But we
kind of have these, like I say, in each episode,
we get something where episode four he's approached to he
doesn't know this, but to be like a rat, a trader,
but he thinks he's helping up the Empire. I'm just
saying from the point of view, I know it's gonna
be revealed for something else, but from the show, it's like, Okay,
there's people that want to get in and get some
information with the Empire. So what if they tell Sierra, like, hey,
the isb they're going a little rogue to help the Empire.
You should help us with this information. So you're like,
oh shit, like he's gonna be an accidental rat. Episode
five rolls around. No, he saw right through that he's
not gonna be accident to rat. He's gonna wrap them
out and be a double agent, which exactly we'll get to.
And Ors like, you're sure you're gonna trust this, Like
most of the time we've had these unparaphrasing, but he
pretty much like most of them we've had, like these
Empire leaks, they don't really work out, and you know, Digress,
it's not gonna work out. And then episode six, obviously
he was on a little bridge doing all the radio
stuff calling it out, but we also got revealed that
I can't remember the guy that works with Deirdre. He's
like the best like Empire guy at the long Hair,
the other older British chat.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he just.
Speaker 1: Walks up to her and just says that you can't
let him really know what's going on here. So again
it's the situation of and when he even gave the
information's like, oh, very well done. Zero he's like, and
then when he walked out, he's like, this might be
the greatest day of my life. Like Ciro's completely bought
into the Empire. He had a chance to maybe do
some good. Nothing he cares as much, right, but he
had a chance to turn col turncoat. He didn't take it.
But then, now do you think the Empire is gonna
build them up and really welcome in. No, they're just
using him as babe. Even deer Jo, who last week
we talked about where man, they seem a lot closer
than we thought they were gonna be. Still seems she
could be bullshitting to the older gentlemen, But for me
it didn't feel like that. NFL. She's still Hey, if
it comes down to serial the mission, she's still gonna
choose the mission over him. Maybe that will evolve, but yeah,
tons of interesting stuff going on with them. As far
as I wasn't sure, I was like, oh, man, is
zero really gonna be like a accident a rat here
for a bit? But no, he saw right through that.
So I loved everything with these two. And yes, the
one hour, you know, they had some time, just have
some sex. But even then he was mad that they
had him followed. So, like I said again, Tea, when
I we talked in predictions, oh there's gonna be a couple, like, no, no,
that's that's not something's gonna happen here. Last week they're
have means with parents. Now they got there fucking with
lights and everything like that. They're uh, but she's lying
to him, so that might catch up to her eventually.
Speaker 3: So well, I'm wondering. Obviously she's just using him. I
can't imagine that this is an ongoing, like committed relationship
at this point, Like she's just employing his services exchange, right.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Maybe it's tough just because last
week with the mother, it felt like she didn't have
to go that far to even help him out, right,
So and they've now been together for two years, Like
I guess that's like a that's a long con job.
Speaker 3: Then not even one hour over the span of two years.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, no, she he could have made different trips and
everything and not not one hour or not two years
because the first year they were together, right, they're living together,
so one maybe, but we don't know what happened there.
They could have seen each other throughout the We don't
know how long he's been there. He's going back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the same video calls. You know, they were doing
some stuff.
Speaker 1: Just need five minutes in the office. I need one
hour in the office.
Speaker 2: Put the lights up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is major Party Gas.
Speaker 1: By the way, no wonder, I've never remember part of
gas party Gas.
Speaker 2: That's not a good name. Actually, I didn't think it
was a bad name till we're analyzing it here. I mean, yeah,
I was like the perkangle in the video, you know,
with anytime we're getting into cereal stuff and Padre. I
was just so hyped, especially jumping from a year, like
I just didn't know how that dynamic was gonna go. Obviously,
it starts us just following Cyril on Gorman, like without Dandra,
So it's like, Okay, something's going on.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: I really like just the whole setup of this. I
liked how set up that he's he's talking to his mom,
and like it just seemed like everyone in his office
was just listening to his conversation. And then of course,
you know, it's revealed later that he knew about this,
so it's probably like a planned everything that's that's going on.
But in the moment, I'm just like this, Like poor Cyril,
He's just like all of his private conversations with his
mom here just everybody's finding out about him.
Speaker 1: But I was really thrown off because they were doing
the same where he was walking to work and they
were playing the conversation. I thought he was on the
phone talking to his moment. At one point he walked
the stairs and he was talking, but his mouth wasn't
moving all. I'm like, this is some the worst Star
Wars adr I've ever seen my and then they cut
to like him on a screen like okay, But at
first I was like worried, I've still not seen Craven,
but I'm like this, this is looking like Craven levels
over here. But no, it was just a just a
call and yeah, his mom is I was kind of
I was surprised she was in this arc. I kind
of thought, last what I'm gonna say last week, it's
work a stream. But just like the last arc, I
thought that was kind of it. I thought that would
just behave that's a section to show off some stuff
with them with his mother, show off how Deirdre you know,
might care for me, if not wants to keep him
lying whatever. Maybe I did not think she'd be a
returning character. And now I'm in the sense that she'll
probably be there for all the arcs if she's here
for this one. So not sometie I was expecting. Not
not a negative. I was just kind of surprised that
we picked up back on that thread.
Speaker 3: Cyril's there, The Mom's gonna be there for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're package deal, those two.
Speaker 1: He's gonna need a place to stay when he finds
out that Dedre is like just lying to him and stuff, Right, so.
Speaker 3: You can go stay at party as is.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't he's need to stay at party gases.
Speaker 2: He leaves at the office party guys, be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't sleep at all. He's just he locked in.
He's perk party gas with the Empire and.
Speaker 2: The bat, the bath attack, the tank.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, sticks too. He's just juice. He knows the
Empire is taking over.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he can he can feel he can feel
the constriction, you know, of the Empire's gript But uh yeah.
Getting back to Ceril and dandra H, I just really
like the whole setup of it. I liked when he
was going to corusan It and their meeting. I really
thought she was going to be like pregnant or something
like in this year jump. I guess it's only a year,
so it's like, not think of a jump. Maybe after
these one hour meetings, you know, in the next dark
well we'll see something. But I I think it's a
low chance that that will happen. But just as he
was approaching it, I'm like, holy fuck, it's gonna happen.
Didn't happen? What lad was even better though. I like
when he just walks in, just like you make sure
we weren't followed.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we're in the clear.
Speaker 2: I made sure I did all the steps, and she's like,
I know I had I woe follow you. I'm just like, oh, okay, never,
I guess I was followed. It's just uh, it's such
a fun dynamic. Honestly, this like super like uptight, like
high ranking imperial lady who's like so for the empire,
Like she is like the tyrannical types that you know,
the emperor emperor would want on his team. And then
Ceial's like the boy scout who's like really into it
but like not to like he's not sitting at the
adult table when it comes to his imperial uh situation.
So it's just such a fun dynamic dynamic. I'm glad
it's still going on. Obviously, you know the lights out
seeing that was that was really fun. I was like,
I don't know, somewhat, I have this like encroaching feeling
that yes, Dandre is lying to him, and I do
think that he's gonna find out at some point, and
I'm kind of worried that that'll be like a turn
for him, like maybe he won't be so for the
Empire if he finds out that he's just being played
by this person that's supposed to mean a lot to him.
I feel like he's already been fucked up over by
the Empire like multiple times, and if something like that really,
like you know someone that's supposed to be close to him,
someone that he'd like he's sharing all these secrets with,
they're they're cutting the lights out together. I feel like
that might be a turn where he's like, fuck the Empire,
like I gotta burn it down, and maybe it'll be
done in a way that I'm really sold on it.
But I just I just don't really want that for
the character. I want him to just live and die
being a super imperial man, not of the Empire, you know,
or the good guys or anything. But I don't know,
just for the character, I would prefer not go that route.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I still wonder if it turns into not
so much a fuck the Empire, might just be to
fuck her over, you know, in a sense that just
take her down. But that's the thing I like with
their story because honestly, with and Or, we know which
way it's going with Mom Mafma, and we go like
mo Mafma, we know, Okay, eventually she's gonna be kind
of brought out to light. We even see this episode
with God, what's Ben Manilson's character? Why am I forgetting
krandit cranic? Yeah, like we always see her in public
like kind of flecking her disagreements with people more so
than she should, right, and or we know where his
story's going. And I feel like, in a sense we
kind of know, like Luthen and Bis are probably gonna
bite it before this show's over, right, just because they're
especially now that they confirm bix and or a couple.
Even last episode when she said my husband whatever, that
could have just been a play, right, Well, you're just
referring to him because you guys are living together, they're
in bed, there's implied sex, they're kissing, their dancing, so
they're clear together. I feel like if Pix was around,
there would be some mention in Rogue one. So that's
where with these two characters, because they're not all in
Rogue one, you could just say, oh, well they're on
some fucking empire ship somewhere happy being evil. You could
say they both die by just like rebels or and
or folk, right, Or it could be he takes her out,
she takes him out. There's some prison like there's That's
the thing with them. Their story is the most unpredictable,
not just because we don't know, like of Rogue one.
I just think the way they've shown the story that
it could call multiple facets because at the same time
she is like, oh yeah, he can never know. But
the only time they get together, she's won to fuck
right now. Could that just be a power thing for her, sure?
But could there also be a sense that she's lying
to the empire, Like it's like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna
say of course, like doesn't matter, serial, I'll fuck him
over to be loyal to you. But maybe when we
get to they've been together for four years, maybe that
doesn't happen anymore, right, And that's why I don't know.
I can't tell you. In this situation where I could
see all the scenarios painting out at working because I
think they've ridden that well that these characters are very
flushed on. You could see a motivation of which way
could go, Like I said that, you could easily just
be taken out whatever, you know. So I don't know.
I don't know how it's gonna end for our our
terrible empire couple here. So m hm, yeah, anything else
on those two No, no, no words, they're shaking their heads,
no listeners. Okay, let's go to let's go to and
Or and pis Taylor what do you think about this?
You have Bix, who I was I like the mother surprised.
I feel like we talked about last week. Okay, you
know she's suffering from this PTSD, but she kind of
you know, she survived that attack. She killed that guy.
We're gonna jump one year, she'll probably be over it. No,
she's definitely not over it. And that's not conferment. But
that was still big in play. And then you had
and Or that had to go on a uh undercover
mission just at first to get some intel, but then
of course Luthen was lying and really want him to
do like a bigger mission, which and Or turned him down.
So what did you feel about these episodes for Bix
and Or and again confirm that there are a couple.
Speaker 3: Couple again now so yeah, they're they're having hand hand
gestures with each other some stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna have
to get Madison tonight and be like, hold your hand
like this, I'm gonna go down like this. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think I saw and Or actually do that in
the the episode when they're doing their hand things. He
was getting ready for the shocker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with uh, you know, with the help of drugs.
Look with the help of drugs, BIS managed to turn around.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Now you remember last year in Canada legalized
heroin and meth for a little bit. You should have known.
You all should have had your problems done a little meth.
I'm ready for that nine to five job.
Speaker 2: My god, PTSD is just gone down.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone take that note from this if you got
PTSD struggles hard drugs is the way to.
Speaker 2: Leave on drugs if you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, she she's in.
Speaker 1: Perk pics. The lights that was her head into the
fucking Empire building. She was looking fired up at the
end of this episode, so.
Speaker 2: She was fired enough.
Speaker 3: And I love that that ending for her there, not
that she died, but just hurt her like rebirth, reborn
kind of moment. And I knew it was coming as
soon as we saw this this doctor crossed grossed guy
and uh, it's just he's walks in the room and
you can just see her shadow in the background. It's like, oh,
you're fucking over for you, goblin, goblin in the corner.
Speaker 1: You don't remember me. Yeah, even though I wasn't fully
convinced it was real for a second, because she's already
had a couple dream sequences, and so I thought, oh,
was this just her tripping out and she's thinking this
is what she wants to do. Clearly at the end
when Andor comes out and it's very realistic, that's how
it ends, and there's no wake up. I'm like, Okay,
it's real, and I'm happy it's real because now I
do feel like next week we will she'll be back
because we'll get a year jump. Now. I'm not saying
she's completely healed, and I'm happy because that was my
complaint last week. It's like, oh, like I'm really liking
what they're doing with BIX and just to like, if
we jump in here and she say, okay, I'm a soldier,
get in, It's like that feels a little like cheating, right,
So I like that we still had some repercussions of
what's going on.
Speaker 2: So if they don't like double down on this drug
use thing, I think they're missing the mark, especially that
and Or didn't even really like like he didn't even
see that right, Like like she she was doing it
while he was in the house and I really didn't
even catch her doing it. So I imagine that'll be you know,
she'll be doing air quote better because she'll be working,
but I imagine she's gonna be going through some sort
of withdrawal things. And just like that sequence when Luthen
was talking to her and it's like, you know, it's
okay for a while, but I think eventually the nightmares
will come back and they'll be even worse. So it's
just like, oh man, I'm scared. I'm scared for that
to happen.
Speaker 1: Which I kind of liked because like, he you never know, Luthen,
He's a motherfucker. He could be lying, but you kind
of get the sense that he's been in that situation
where life is just ship and he just needs like
a little top up. And that's why I don't know.
It could be withdrawals, or it could be that she
could still be addicted to that stuff in like a
year from now. It could be even worse right now,
Oh I hope not. I think that could be the
driving that could be the driving force away from them.
Plus like like I know somebody might roll their eyes,
but I would not put past the show Like you're
telling me, Hey, BIG's gonna die from like Overdoe.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, that would happen.
Speaker 1: In the show, like like I would be surprised at
all of That's what kind of takes her down because
you just can't handle it, right, because she's getting all
this pressure and it's tough, right because I understand where
Luthen is when he goes like, hey, I guess we'll
tie luth in their journey here too where And he's like, Hey,
you feel this passionate about bis and that's great, that's
one person. You got a whole planet over there that
you don't feel this passionate about. And because I get
Andorer's perspective, that's someone he loves, he's personally connected to.
But Luthan's idea, he's not saying it out right, but
he's probably just saying like, yeah, that's a person you love,
but if they go, it's not really gonna make a difference.
But this planet, this could make a difference in the war.
And that's why he's kind of saying like, you can't
be one foot in, one foot out. You're gonna have
this passion for all of it, right, And I do
get Luthan saying like, hey, I want Bix to be good,
but if she's not, we're gonna have to move on
one way or another, but it's just leaving her in
the dust or whatever, almost sending her on a suicide mission,
whatever it may be like. And I like that he
did and Or figure that out. He went to go
talk to Bix just because he knew Bix would talk
to and Or would get going. And that's where I
love the Juxtas position, because I don't think he's asthradical
a Sagara, but he's like, he's like a few inches
down and he's like he's he's just as bad in
a different direction. But at the same time they are
in war. They are in a situation where it's about
to get really really bad. And it's not like Luthen's wrong,
like and again anybody said to and Or it's really
fucked up when he says, hey, we could do this mission,
and and it goes, hey, like, we're gonna do this mission,
and what's it gonna do. We're gonna prove that the
Empire is dirty and things are just gonna go on,
and you know, Luthern kind of gives them back and
forth they go for a bit and his two pitches are, Okay,
we pull up this mission and maybe something comes from
some from it or we fail or whatever. They show
off the goods and it fails, but if the planet
goes down, it's almost like a worthy sacrifice. And Luthan
like like he's so just thinking of on a chess
piece level. He shows really no emotion because and ER's like, oh,
what is that gonna do? Like a city burning down?
He says something like, oh, it's gonna burn down in
a glorious fashion, pretty much, just saying like if this
city Gorman or this planet Gorman goes down, people are
gonna notice, and it's gonna you know, it's gonna Saw.
But that's a huge thing to go away, so it's
kind of a win for us if it screws up.
And that's where it's like. And Or right now is
not on that thinking where Luthen is. You know, I
don't think he's as bad as Saw, but Saw is
similar in that fashion too. If something can go down
and benefit us, then cool, let's move on to the
next thing, right, So, very interesting dynamics with all three
of them. And yeah, back to Bigs. It's just she
knows that she's a burden and Or right now she's
a burden of Luthan because like she knows she should
be out there doing stuff and he's checking on her.
There's things implied, and it's just that's where it's like
I could see the drugs getting out of hand because
she just feels like, oh, I gotta be there for
these people for the cause. But if it's gonna tank
your whole life, is it worth it? And also I
don't know, because that's war and that's a tough situation.
But uh yeah, there's lots of layers to this, this
three way dynamic between them. Anything. Let's see we got Yeah,
so that guy's dead or he's well, he's lots of pain.
Then he got exploded, so he did die. But I
did like that and or helps her out to do
that mission there.
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say,
I agree with you, Travis. I thought it was actually
a dream sequence, just because it felt like way too easy,
Like this guy is just working alone on the night ship.
He's like even the Emperor, you know, like that they
made it. They made note that like the Emperor. I
don't remember the line what was said, but it's just like.
Speaker 3: He was doing well. So he was being moved to
a new division with the Navy. But the end was go.
Speaker 2: And it was like the Emperor like himself kind of
like recognized that he's important, right like so it's like,
I feel like this guy would have like a security detail,
not like fucking Paul Blard watching him and just.
Speaker 1: One guard outside, Hey, you can't be here, and then boom.
It felt it did feel very easy.
Speaker 2: It seemed easy. I'll give them a pass. When I
like saw and Or, I'm like, okay, well it was
it was a team effort, so then you know they
they use some resources here to get this mission done,
so maybe I'll give it a pass. And it was
just like an epic end of the show. So or
end of the episode. I thought it was pretty badass
and good for her. You know, she got her revenge.
I don't think that'll really end the nightmares or anything
like that. That's what she's got drugs for. Fortunately, as
Taylor highlighted, so good for her or something else you
said with Luthen. Oh, when and Or showed up to
the H. Luthen's like shop essentially in the middle, I
thought that was wild. I was like, man, this is
so so brutal here, like this is how you got.
Speaker 1: That medality and you found on the ship and the life.
Speaker 3: He shouldn't even have told and or like they I
run a shop right here, you know this is this
is where you'll find me in person. That information shouldn't
be with anyone else except him and clear Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's that's a major red flag and I'm
curious if that's it probably won't happen, but it's it's
the type of thing that seems like such a big
deal that it's like I'm sure someone caught something and
then we're gonna see in a further episode of I
don't know, some imperial people look at the footage, but
I don't don't think it'll to that. I think the
I don't think Luthen's free in the.
Speaker 1: No, because they're they're not onto them, but they're they're
getting closer. Right with that track, like the ye they
were gonna scan everything and that's where you'd find the
might No, obviously it's just a routine scan at this point,
right to find out, oh is there people out there?
But still it's like like and Or showing up that happening,
even Luthen being in the room with his like weasel
guy and Kranick and mon Mothma all at the same time.
It's like, that's a dangerous combination of people to be
together because one slip up by somebody, because I thought
it was gonna happen when she was doing the whole
device thing and Luthan was looking over. Kranick was like
looking like he wasn't they didn't do this, but he was.
He was inquisitive, so I thought he was gonna see
Luthen watch and them be like why is he just
staring at these two? But it didn't happen at least
right now. Maybe that's something because again I do think
Luthen will die, but I think this arc Luthen was
putting many precarious positions where and even said that too.
What's her name again, Claia, Claiah he said, which I liked.
He said, like we're drowning. He's like, I can't even
keep track of all the information we're getting out on
all the spies, because that's the tough thing, and that's
why they need someone like with mom Mothma and laying
all this stuff and more network because as much as
like like Luthen can't be the rebellion by himself and
that was and Or one right, And it's easy because
that's like a small group of people. It's still hundreds
of people. But it's like you have your team captains,
your leaders, you know, manager, your supervisors. But now when
it's spreading all out and you have mon over here,
and you have and Or, and you got Saw doing
his stuff, and then you have like Clear dealing with
her stuff, and then you got all these other agents
and now a whole planet. I like, there's no way
he can all this information. How do you pile It's
not like a computer, right, you can put that on
computer and be like, okay, here's a mission staying. You
can't do that with this, you have to it's all
like with whispers and secrets. So I love that he
did say the like, we're we're at our end's rope
right now with all this. It's it's good to have
getting information, but it's like trying to keep track of Okay,
what's and Or up to? What's this guy up to?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Well, now there's a device and oh my god, he's
mad at her for it, but it's uh, yeah, they
it's gonna catch I think that's what they're trying to
emphasize is he's inches away from getting caught, and I
think unfortunate he's gonna get caught. Who catches him?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know who it'll be.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a Cranic just because
he's like the big big on show. I was hyped
when he was in here, just like Ben Milson. Let's
go and yeah. Just again, whenever I have a character
that's like interacted with like Shive or someone in the past,
I'm like, oh man, this is this, this is adding
to some weight to this. And honestly I didn't have
any of these thoughts going into the season, but specifically
in this arc, I would not be surprised if we
get an Emperor appearance somewhere before the show is done. Okay, well,
there you go. And I'm surprised by that news. It
just seems like it would fit so well though, because
they keep bringing him up, they keep mentioning his name,
and like just the whole secret club that they got
going on right with uh para pair of gas and
fucking Deirdre and those guys Crnics team. It just seems
like we're keep keep hinting around the boogeyman that is
the Emperor, and I think it would have just added
so much to have that appearance somewhere in the show
and again just a hologram, like like you don't even
have to have him there or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Sad, Sad they're not doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gil Roy just said it was too much of
a lift, and I think he's just kind of applying
what it took a lot away from the show. But
as we've gone.
Speaker 2: Off with vadera no, he confirmed that too.
Speaker 1: No Vader. He just said, like it's hard to write
for Vader, which I can understand when you're not dealing
with certain things, but Emperor, it's like, especially even with
the Senator stuff or like the Senate stuff like in
all the I don't know, like I don't know, I'd
have to have a personal conversation with Tony Gilroy because
I'm not a writer, but I just feel like, isn't
that much of a lyft with all the stuff you're
kind of setting up, Like it almost feels like Vader
not as much. Emperor, feels like there is almost like
a little missing aspect there if we don't get him,
you know, and we're not. But it just it does
because when Tarry was pitched that before, it's like, I
don't know, but the way the season has been layered,
it to me would make someone think, oh, you're gonna
get at least a scene, you know, and the fact
that sounds like we're not. I I understand that as
far as again it's a massive character right and bring
that in maybe you want to you know, feel you
want to have the time or even just like money
wise again because like fucking my boy, Jimmy Smith's got
recast because Tony Gailroy said that a legacy I think
he said legacy character. I don't know if he said characters,
but at least one character has recast because of scheduling
and financial issues. So I think maybe Jimmy Smith's just
want more money than for I'm imagining or gone us
in like another scene I would hope to be a
dumb scene to like just hey.
Speaker 3: Maybe completely pointless. Completely The way that they're talking about
it though, implies that, Okay, we're gonna see him again,
and I'm assuming probably with like the last arc because
the rope one.
Speaker 1: That was the only scene. I'd be like, yeah, Jimmy
Smith's be like, you want me to fly down for what? For?
How much? Like I don't know, like and you know,
I guess see Jimmy Spiz pigs dexter over this, so
we'll be talking about him come July. So I I
got caught one of that last week. But maybe that's
just a situation where maybe it's like maybe the lift
was like putting money Ian McDermott's pocketbook right of, like, hey,
like that's because that to me, I personally don't like
that they recast Jimmy Spitz. I think you just don't
have Bail in there. But I can see them doing that.
I don't think you recast the emperor, right, And that
could be the situation where're like, yeah, we can have
Ian in here, but you know, we already paying a
lot for Obi Wan and it was already expensive because
it looks great. You know, the lift is can we
afford Ian? And I don't know if that's so. That
might just be an easier way to say, oh, I
just couldn't figure out way to get him. But this
season feels like it's riddled with a like.
Speaker 3: Everyone's saying, I know the Emperor, I know the Emperor.
Oh I just talked with the Emperor. It's like, just
give us the Emperor just to piggyback on what you're saying.
I really thought we were gonna see him in this,
because well everyone knows Palpatine is just he's the dark
Lord of the Sith. You know, he's like, ah, like
old perk Angle there, but he needs he's he's definitely
the looming in the background, like manipulating and everything like that,
dark forces or all that kind of stuff. But yes,
you see the other side of him in the prequel movies,
and you get to see some of that stuff in
the Clone Wars. Yaha yah yahda. But like the best
post Empire moment of him that you get to see
is uh like in the Bad Batch. It's a third
episode of season three, and it's amazing. There's a Senate
here in you got all the senators in there. I'm
pretty sure Baylor Gano is in this. In this in
just a little bit of context. So they're trying to
vote on a bill to allow the decommissioned Clone Troopers
to have a little bit like severance and like stability,
but instead of just being like sent out to be
homeless because they're trying to decommission the Clone army at
usher in the stormtroopers, and so there's a senator called
Senator Chucci who's trying to petition for the Clones to
have rights, and so it's getting out of control and whatnot.
And then they just they play the footage showing that
the Clones were ordered to bombard and destroy Camino and
this one Imperial admiral is Admiral Rampart's being just castrated
here by all the senators like what the fuck, Like,
how are we supposed to feel safe? Like this is
crazy the Clones, And so the whole Senate hearing is
just chaos, and then this buzzer goes off and then
the center platform comes up and Palpatine comes up and
he immediately goes into Chancellor Emperor like pol political mode,
and it's fucking amazing because he turns this around and
he's like, yeah, the fact that the Clones so blindly
follow orders, this is unsafe. We need a reliable, structured military,
so we're gonna usher in this Clone bill. And he's like,
it's my opinion that this legislation moves forward with this,
and he's just talking and it's like man, that is
the political side of Palpatine that I really wish that
we got to see in this show. And it would
fit so well if you have something like that. And
while I don't mind seeing another alien saying in the
center podium like joh An Empire that together holiness, Yeah,
it's like, you know, it's just it's not the same.
I really would have just that would have been the
icing on top. This would have been fucking perfect to
have the Emperor right there, because even like they we
you know, Revenge of the Sith. They're talking about how
how did they word it? I'm paraphrasing, but uh, they
were worried that this emergency hearing of the Senate was
going to be a trap, but they were talking at
the same time like no, because the Emperor has to
keep all the systems together, and the Senate intact basically
to keep things cohesive. And we don't learn until a
new Hope that the last remnants of the old Republic
kind of get swept away by the Emperor. Right, So
they're still dealing with like the Senate and still a
lot of political things involved that at this point too. Yes,
people are afraid of challenging the empire, as we could
see with Man trying to rally petition to put an
end to this new platform that the emperor was petitioning for.
Speaker 1: So again, it's just it's that's the most egregious one.
When they have I can't remember the one the guy
who's like tied to Gorman and he's like, oh, you're
gonna like publicly vote against the emperor, that to me
was the most egregious of Like you have literally people
talk about her going against the emperor. You don't have
him in the show. That's where I can buy like
he built up of the Emperor, I talked to him
and wants to do this. Fine, but when you actually
have Mono pose, I feel like you're setting that's the
character that should be having that moment. And especially with
Kranick where she's starting to speak up publicly and it's
getting really awkward, that's where I think, oh, there's no
one else will say anything, and before because honestly, mam
Mama is eventually gonna bounce right and join the rebellion
and just be like off in the base and stuff
like that. I feel like there are probably a few
moments where Okay, she's a number one uno emy enemy
of the Empire, and her speaking out publicly against Palpatine,
like in front of everybody. That could be a really
great moment for that character. But obviously we're not getting that,
so they'll probably do something else. So we'll see. Let's
take a break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
Where do we want to go next?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh?
Speaker 1: I just want to mention when you talked about Kranic
being the one to get Luthen, the reason I do
want that is because I want a scene of Kranick
and real Luthen to have a conversation, because I think
there'd be some outstanding television, not like fake Luthen. So
I hope you're right and that does happen, and then
we go over there. I hope it's not just like
Luthen's on a ship and explode, you know.
Speaker 3: I hope it's like that Deadpool or seeing where Kanik
reaches out and grabs Luthen's head and Luthen falls back
and like the hair comes off, and Kranik is like
a look of looks at the wig like the TVA
agent to Deadpool.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that route, but there's a left track
in the scene to uplift it.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I think it was when we were talking about Luthen,
I meant to mention, I love just uh Varian Sky.
Was that his name? Fashion design Yeah? The fashion designer
just a really fun role for especially because I feel
like and Or specifically like and like Cassie and Andor
in this show is just so serious and like there's
some moments where he might have like a light comment
like I would I would, I would argue even to
call it a joke. It's just like he just seems
so serious for the most part throughout the whole show,
and then in here where he's just being this like
he's like he's trying to be like his best Luthen
essentially here with like the Designer. I don't think he
even gets half to the charisma of what Luthen gets to. Uh,
But you know, Luthan's been doing it a lot longer,
so I'll give him a pass there. But yeah, when
he's just like going from the fashion designer to like
in the same sentence, just gets really serious and like
starts talking about all these things, and then as they're
like wrapping up the conversation, he's like getting his coat
and then it's like, oh, yeah, you can get that
sent to my house. Yeah whatever it was. So, I
thought that was really really fun and just a different
role that we've seen for and or have to play
in this game of spy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I thought there's multiple great stuff there that was fun.
I liked his scene at the bell hop because that
felt like a fucking video game RPG where it felt
like you could see the text bubbles over and or
like trying to say the right thing to get him
to speak of like oh, I'm just looking for information.
Then he could throw It's almost like the you know,
say something good bad, pay money, And that's what he did.
He gave him some money. He's like, well, you know,
we're not supposed to talk about this, but I actually
like that scene with the bell hop because it's just
like it puts a perspective of he doesn't look like
he should be there because he's younger. Guy was Yeah,
this happened when I was twelve, and fucking brutal story
of Tark and just being like, oh, no, one thought
they're gonna land a ship on a bunch of unarmed
people and they just fucking did. And then like took
it over. So it's like, damn, that's that's brutal. So
I liked that a good juxtaposition where I really liked
the scene where I can't remember her name, but the
daughter of the main guy and or his main contact
with that she kind of rushed him the restaurant one
and get that meeting going, and when he ran down like, hey,
I could be is b I could be just playing
you for a trick to get money. Listened all these
ways she could fail and him be like, you never
do that, like you never you got to get better
at this. I enjoy that because one, that's a few
things we saw back in the other and or but
two it kind of makes him hypocritical because what did
he do with Luthen either in this episode later on
or the next episode when he just rushed the Luthen shop, right,
So the same way where he's like, oh, you make
one mistake, everyone you know could be locked up, that's
what he did with Luthan, Like what if people are
fucking watching Luthen show like whatever, like we talked about, right,
and what if that leads to Luthen getting caught his
assistant Dick. So that's where again it shows Okay, yeah
he is cool, calm, collective, but when he's given these
people shit for all their Russian, they're all feeling this
is too personal and they're gonna worry. It's like that's
what you're doing too, dude. And that's what Luthen was
trying to say to him as well, like, no, he
didn't have that context that conversation, but of the personal
versus the greater good, and that's where it's like even
you and or want to put that aside. But no,
everything was good, the conversations with everybody, and I liked
that and Or until that Luthen stuff, definitely felt like
he was a ver Tama Rbg's he was like a
way higher level and they talked about that, but like
way higher level than all these people as far as
like their plans. And he doesn't look like cocky about
it or arrogant, but he does have a sense of
like you guys are way overhead, like you this like
you're you can't pull us off and if you do,
it's not even worth it. Like he just feels like
this mission is kind of could put and even he
tells than that right, He's like, I'm sitting this one out.
There's for other reasons because he thinks it's risky and
we'll get to that later. But yeah, I think this
was a highlight. It's good because I don't know, I
could be wrong, but I just feel like, because it's
six episodes left, I don't know how much more comedic
and or we're gonna get, you know, like we got
a little bit last week with the ship and those
are the other the people that took him prisoner, and
then we got this. I feel like the next six
that that area has kind of gone. Barring a quick
or two, I guess we do got K two s
so coming right, So I imagine there will be some
comedic bits there, but I feel like that'll be him
reacting to K twos oh doing the comedic stuff, rather
than and or being like, I'm a chef and I'm
here to look at the balls, you know, so like
chicken balls, not yeah and yeah, the thing was tattooing
chicken balls or whatever whatever that thing wata was. I remember,
uh jar jar he like he's trying to get it
with his tongue and then he hits whatever that is.
There's probably some good balls there, you know, good balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, everything uh, because you guys are talking
about critic just before. I loved seeing Krinic in this
that was great. Him going head to head with Mathma,
that was fantastic. I agree with you guys. I'd love
to see him kind of be the one to kind
of like take a shot towards Luthen when Luthen is
exposed or revealed to be the main like rebel cell contact.
Speaker 2: Very naked strap to a cell somewhere.
Speaker 1: That's right, keeps the wig though, They let him keep
the wig, just disrespect him.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see how
that that is unfolded and that plays out with with
his character. Obviously, we know he's not gonna die, but
Luthen might and many others might. Still. What was it
that you transitioned to after that? It was Gorman incident.
That's the thing that I really wish they didn't skip
over in this year. I was so looking forward to
seeing the people protesting and everything going on, and now
I just feel like, Okay, well we're getting another protest
after the initial protest, and that protest like, that's that's
the big cheese, that's the big thing that put Mathma
in this position with what's going on in the Senate
and whatnot, and I just think it's it's it's unfortunate.
I would really have loved to have seen just that
Gorman incident.
Speaker 2: Is that just because we didn't have a targ In
to use? You think.
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: But I feel like you don't even need to show
his face, Like you could have just had again the
ship landing and get like a back view shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like or even some voice or something like that too, right,
So I feel like there's a way you could have
maybe not a full episode, but at least the incident.
I think they could have showed off because they told
us that story without seeing Targan here. They literally did
in this situation a tell them, not show. They told
the story of what happens. I think you could have
done that with some actor or knowing Disney. Now, they
probably just what he used fucking AI voice modulat or
to get Tarkin in there, But I think you could
do something. So it was it was a law but
maybe again, who knows whether they didn't want to cross
that bridge again, whether it's a budgetary thing or it's
that we talked about too. Right, this was supposed to
be multiple seasons now scrammed into one, and they just
probably looked at like, hey, what what can we keep
and what should we discard? Right, And maybe it's okay, Well,
this whole sequence is great, but we could just have
a couple of characters say this in a few senses
and then we got the point across. So mmm uh,
just because where we move past it and much day
other then. I really liked the sequence of her trying
to I always forget her name, was it Clia Clia,
her getting the recording device out of there, really great
stuff with that. The IP guy who's like very squirrellly
and man, he's going through the ringer but just moved
to left of the right.
Speaker 2: Fucking stressful if you're his position, Like you're not even
supposed to interact with this person, and like day to
day and she's like, we gotta go do this in
front of all your bosses right now.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, just listen to her and
have the fucking tales. I'm not grabbing this table. It's
like you're gonna be a scene. Just grabbed the fucking
tales gonna be over. But like literally your hands bleeding so, uh, yeah,
she's a great soldier, unfortunate. I think she's gonna meet
a bad ending as well too. But I like her
more and more, and I really liked her and luten
scene at the end when they're just kind of again
some levity of like, oh, I thought you were gonna
kill Crenick right there, like some levity of okay, they
they both went through this situation where it literally could
have been over for them, but they figured it out
and got there and again, probably sad ending coming. But
I really like that scene and everything with the art
and seeing the r and then looking at it. That
whole party scene, Uh was great.
Speaker 3: So did you see all the Maybe we talked about
this in season one, but I have no recollection whatsoever.
This conversation that Clia is made or Clia is maybe Leah.
Apparently that's a big rumor conspiracy that I think. Lease,
I think I remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need to go down that path.
Speaker 2: I see some similarities. Actually know that you mentioned that,
and just like the fake like she.
Speaker 3: Looks, yeah, that's the only foundation for this, this kind
of trajectory. But I just hope she's an original character.
I don't need it to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also weird of bails at that
same party. You wouldn't you think like that could be
weird of like he's gonna be like that.
Speaker 3: He wakes at her. It's like, what's that all about?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because there are times Princess Credits have seen
everybody like starings, You're like, what is going on? Like No,
I just think that's weird because like eventually, like Organa,
he plays along like mom mafmon does, right, he is like,
oh yeah, I'm for the Empire. So I imagine at
some point people would have saw his daughter, Princess Leah,
So it feel really weird that they're at the same.
Speaker 3: Daughter working as a secretary of story.
Speaker 1: Four weeks later. If they didn't know was his daughter
and now she's with him, be like that was your daughter,
Like why didn't even introduce Like so no, I think
we're I think if she was just stayed in that shop, maybe,
but she's been too out in the public to me
for her to not be Princess Leah to all the
wrong that would just seem that seemed too As somebody
that likes the twist, that seemed like the whole John
Blake is Robin from Dark Knight Rises, and I like that.
I think that's fine. This to me would be a
little to agree just because there's past stuff where Robin
in that universe was just that's the first time we
met him, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the only thing I was gonna
talk not the only thing, but the thing that I
disliked was the I can't remember their two names, but
alstly Android does not go on the mission, so he
sends which was off belllls you. So my defense was
the recap I watched said it was her sisters they
fucked me. But you were right again, uh not saying
you care. I say that the recap or they fucked me.
But again, great line the show. I love. When you
should see how Gone lutheren in is, he's like, oh, like,
have you heard from a cousin in three months? He's like, oh,
what's it about? And she's going on off and the thing.
He's like, well, what what message do you want me
to send? And he's like, she's like that I care
about her, like he does not. He doesn't even he
can't even think that. That's the only reason Mom Offman
wants to know about her cousin, not because the mission,
not the success rate, bunny whatever. It is all Lutheran checklist.
There's no thought of, oh, maybe she just wants to
know about how her family members doing. And he just
kind of looks shellshocking, and she says like, because I care,
because I think Luthan's kind of lost that, right. He's
he cares to a point, but again he's shown he's
like Saw, where if it comes down to a person,
he cares on the mission, he's gonna pick the mission.
And that's where I like that because again it shows
I think that's the difference between Luthan and Saw, and
then what the rebellion becomes with Man and land, Luke
and Hahn, where you can't have some cutthroatness but you
still gotta have the heart, Like that's what's gonna because
then you're no better than the enemies. Right. But so
he sends the cousin and the second which I was
glad because okay, there's that girl that she's liked, and
I was like, yeah, since it's like, okay, you guys
gotta get it on because he might die and she
did die. I did not like this whole secret The
Heights was fine, but it was so cheesy of they're
doing his heist and the guy with his fucking suspender
shows up. What's going on? It's like it's this weird
almost like Mandalorian set where it's just like one alley
and like a couple of people. It's like feels like
a play and and or doesn't usually feel like that.
And it felt weird because like maybe I was wrong
in the meetings. He felt like he was pretty much
like against the empire, right that guy?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he helped them escape too.
Speaker 1: Yes, So my whole thing is like no one diffuse situations.
Pulls to like hey, for fuck, like we're trying to
take them the fucking empire, like just like try, but
just to be like go home, go home, Like that
was cheesy.
Speaker 3: Pulls a gun on.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah, like it's and I get it because he's
a rookie, but like and to do like the way
you kill her is wrestling with a gun. The shoot
her and like you said, he he comes over, I'll
take her back. So it's just like in a second,
it's not even like he shoots her and then he's
still like I'm fucking Raniola, because maybe he's against the empire,
but he still doesn't like he doesn't want to get caught, right,
he just still is gonna whatever his motivation is, he
doesn't want to do that, but no, he just kind
of helps them complete the heist and gets the body back.
So I thought for and Or, which is usually never
a messy show, that whole sequence was very messy, and
I wish they gave like, I get what they're trying
to do. Unexperienced rookie makes a mistake, but like, what
else was he supposed to really? I didn't say the
empire thing, Like this guy was so like I'm fucking
going and if you don't let me, I'm gonna shove
this gun down your throat. It's like, what was he
supposed to do? It's not like he I just felt
like they should have made the rookie guy do something
even more careless that would kill her. But we're her
to get this whole speech like you're not half the
man the woman she was and she was a legend
and you're nothing, And I was like, he doesn't desert,
Like it just didn't feel warranted. I felt like that
whole heisting up until that point I was enjoying. But
that to me was a, like I said, an actual
point of the show where I could see, eh, I
might not be able to give us a full ten
because I thought that was really just like it felt
more like the other Disney Plus stuff where we I
roll and go okay, like we had to do this
to get there, and just it didn't work. And I,
you know, I liked their chemistry, great scene, that was
fun to have them finally admit how they're feeling, but
very very awkward set up with suspenders guy and the
heist and everything. So that's my big, my only negative
so far this season that I really would put in
that call up of like, oh yeah, this was not
the greatest.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I I
feel like I was just so confused on like everything
that was going on in that sequence because it was
just I I was trying to like figure out if
it was like like it was an actual plan or
if it was a fake planned to trip up the
people that know about the fake plan that actually is
a real pl Like it just seemed like there's so
many layers to it that it's I was kind of
just waiting to see what happened, and then it was
just really messy, like actual substance to it, like what
you just laid out where this.
Speaker 3: Is just random guy who like, why the fuck is
even here?
Speaker 1: It looking like fucking Mario in my opinion, Jackmarer, just
like he's looking like trying to fuck us. Why is
here any Why is he so like I'm gonna follow
what's going on? It's like, what the.
Speaker 2: He's so like determined to figure out what's going Like
you gets right that guy's face, he's.
Speaker 3: Oh, I clicked it at the same time.
Speaker 1: For the audio listeners, we have a clip of James
Franco slapping too mcguard insperiment too. They clicked it both
at the same time.
Speaker 2: So give it.
Speaker 1: Give us full click, someone, give us full.
Speaker 2: My heads are off. Hi, isn't that right?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 1: And that was Mario. Yeah, he's like gonna fucking shoot me, brother,
Like when he said he's gonna shot the gun down
his throat. It's like it feels like this issue you're
having about something like did you get try cheating on
you or something you put It felt like he just
went out and he was like I'm gonna fuck some
people up tonight and he got and then when that
girl said, he's like, I'll get you. We'll get you
to your spot and.
Speaker 3: Got out of his system.
Speaker 1: He's like completely normal guy. And it's like is he
is he hidding some drum? Is he perk?
Speaker 2: Mario?
Speaker 1: Is he on some roid? Rage? Like it was so weird,
like that needs another scene or two, you know.
Speaker 2: Just strange too, because I could have sworn that that
guy was like with them, like he was like with
he was so when he just shows up at the
end and.
Speaker 1: He shows up and he questioned him like, hey, what
are you guys doing because they say guns are stillings,
Like what are you guys doing? But he jumped from
he felt like he was someone opposed them, like, oh,
like what the fuck are you guys doing that? I
caught you doing something bad? But yeah, it felt like
in the midds. That's why I was gonna ask you.
Just felt like he was with them, So I was
very confused when all this was going down.
Speaker 3: He was definitely with them. And then when Val comes
back because she went to look for another girl, It's like,
you know what happened? I'm sure Roy and Mario was like,
oh it was him. It was that young boy over there.
Speaker 1: He left. He was he dropped the dead body off
and he pieced the fuck out. I thought he's gonna
be that truck with him. No, he just let the
young guy, who, like I said, I don't think deserves
all the blame for this situation, just get showed out
and he's like, I'm gonna go make some mushrooms. Like
he just he left. It was like and he just
went back like, oh honey, he wouldn't believe the night
I just had, Like just he didn't feel like he's
no remorse, like he felt like he's a bystander that
saw someone gout shown like oh man, like, no, dude,
this is you caused this. You killed her more than
a young guy. You fucking killed this lady. But he
got off Scott free Mario. So weird, weird.
Speaker 2: Story was very weird, and it just felt below like
the quality of the show for everything that we've seen
in the first two seasons. So yeah, I was. I
was just unsure on how I felt because it was
just so much stuff going on. I couldn't believe that
they killed off Scinta that way. It's just so like
I get it. You know, you could have a very heroic,
badass character just die in a very like simple way.
I don't think that's like what makes it bad. It's
just like compiling on everything that we just laid out,
like Mario and this fucking simp guy that you know
that's that's Vow's words, not mine. Yeah, but like that's
what killed this characters was like just this bad ass
it's like one of Lutheran's like big General or not,
whatever the fucker role might be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just got random, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: The shot went off, I'm like, for fox sakes, that's
gonna be Senta, and then it went to her like
that's what.
Speaker 1: They finally made love. You knew it was over once
they made love. I was like, oh, one of them's dying,
and it's.
Speaker 2: Like what you said, So it's like, oh, this is
like bad Mando stuff. It's just like, man, like, this
is not like I thought we were past all of this. Uh,
so that was unfortunate. I really didn't like, I didn't
feel that like perturbed by it until now, I think
because I'm just stewing on it a little bit more
because in the moment, I was just confused. I was
just confused. I was like, that is just so weird.
I don't fully knew what was going on, and.
Speaker 1: We're probably never gonna see Mario ever again.
Speaker 2: Probably he came like sucking grosso or whatever, like Brasso
not grosso.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't for some reason. That shopkeeper that bix
and and or go see also looked like brass hoel,
but he's like, oh this is you want a year
old one?
Speaker 2: Like I see his face everywhere.
Speaker 1: It was like his brass, So like did he like
fake his death and he's here like multiple times he
get popping up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so I think that was just something
that Yeah, the more I just do on it, the
more upset I get about it. And then the other thing,
you know, we're kind of already talked about him, but
just Cyril's who whole uh what he knows and what
he doesn't know and what what like he might know
that is not revealed to the viewer. Right now, I
feel like I'm a little bit unsure on what's going
on there because I I don't know. I just I
have this feeling that he knows more than what's being shown,
do you But maybe that's just a false false because
because like he is so blinded by his loyalty. Maybe yeah,
that like he wouldn't even like you see, I think
ped do something in front of him and he just
will ignore it because he's just so blind by it.
But I think it was just mostly how some of
those sequences went through, like by just it seemed like
it was, huh, I'm onto something. But maybe I'm reading
into it too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's honest uff. But whatever DDRE and
Party Pax was talking about. I don't think he knows
that I forgot what his real name is, but that
would be that would be quite a twist if he
actually did know, along with the fuck they're talking about.
And he like double cons Dedrin like, oh, I knew
you're gonna kick me into the curb, Like.
Speaker 2: Nah, I just as you're standing next to the.
Speaker 1: With Mario, because he was watching the monoculars right away,
He's like, I'm gonna recruit that fucking guy. Look, he's massive.
He killed that lady with one shot accidentally. Uh. And
then the only thing we haven't touched on so far
yet is saga. Not too much in here, but you know,
anytime forrest whiggers in here, they gotta get his ass
to make some big ass speech, which is always good.
He is, he's great, you fool the wild in your
broth in your eyes.
Speaker 3: Just this gasoline and hail it.
Speaker 1: Dead when the Republic comes, fuck help me. But yeah,
just pretty much showing how someone gets radicalized because that's
what he does, right. Is this guy is we've seen
him before, but he's there just drop something off, but
he's held against his will. He has all these other
particulars want to get back to these people, but he's
like it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome thing where he's
holding him against his will. And then he's given this
big speech and like, dude, you know, join me. We're like,
he gives him this big, raw, raw thing. So you
just saw how Saw can get into and I like
all this. I'm having fun the voice, but I actually
think this was all good because I think it shows
like how Saw again has his methods right, and it's
almost like this guy gets scared into being no choice
but helping Saw, but Saw kind of makes him retroactively
think it's his idea right by saying, like, you choose
to be a warrior, So it's it's pretty fucked up
in a man Like I said, I still think he
is more fucked up than Lutheran because he's just because
I didn't know who was gonna get shot. Really at
that point when he's like, oh, you've trained him everything,
you know, I could literally see saw girl shooting this
fucking guy right now, and it's like he's way overboard
as far as the mission goes right. And he's even
like he's on a suicide mission because he said like, oh,
we'll be long dead but before the Republic gets back.
So it's like I get what he's saying of like, oh,
our you know, our sacrifices will mean something. But at
the same time, it just seems like he's ready to
go and he and that's I guess liberating as well
because it makes you maybe do things that you wouldn't before.
But yeah, great speech, great moment, and like that was.
You would watch that scene if you didn't know the
history of Saguara and he didn't know what he's fighting for,
you would think he's probably on the bad guy side.
The way he speaks, the way he does things with people,
the way just he looks at them. It's just he
is not a good, pleasant fellow, which is funny because,
like we said, just look in those eyes. Yeah, and
to me, it's like that's what makes me interested to
watch Rogue one because Rogue one I feel like because
I didn't watch the anime, but even the animation, he
never feels as bad as you.
Speaker 3: No, he was in Rebels and he was still kind
of like whatever you said the animation, But.
Speaker 1: I said, I hadn't seen the animation when I saw
Rogue one, but I'm saying like, even in the animation,
he's like a radical, but like it always be like,
oh he does things a little more not by the books.
This is like this guy's fucking crazy. And that's where
like in ROGUEE, I feel like he's pretty much well
you say, like he feels like he's kooky, but he's
still like, oh he's a hero. Now. Watching this scene
and going to Rogue one, I was like, I'm not
gonna feel the same way about Sogrel as I had before.
So yeah, Forced Girl always fun and uh, it interesting
to see what they get up to with this fucking
bomb and what what other things are gonna have people
breathe in and everything.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I I don't know what happened here,
but I definitely miss some details on just what this
whole fucking thing was. So it was a bomb or
it was like an activator for a bomb.
Speaker 3: Or Ridonium is a type of it's it's very very
potent starship fuel, and so what they have was basically,
oh yeah, for sure. Do you remember in Mando season two,
I think when Bill Burke came back and was off
to the side and Bilburr is in there, and Bilber
had that amazing like PTSD moment at the coffee table
with the Imperial officer and he was like, it just
ends up shooting him, and Mando took his helmet off
in that episode. So when they were moving those fuel
cells or whatever that transport in that cargo tanker, that
was the Ridoniana.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, just what how they were describing it.
I didn't know if it was like a fucking whatever
it was, it was, it was a drug, it was uh,
I don't I don't know what it was. And I
think I was just a little bit confused on what
the mission was because there's variance for like the device.
I guess that the act I don't know. I I
think I was just trying to like focus too much
on the details. I probably should have just rewound it
and rewatch the sequence, but I'm like, I'm sure they'll
I'm sure they'll cover it. And then it gets to
the end they just take it off their mask and
just Forrest Whitaker is going all off with his monologue,
and I'm just like, man, this is crazy. What's going
on here? Mister Willhelm was that his name? It was
something close to that, with will Dam or something like that, Willman, Willman, Wilman.
I just remember saw gives like he just says his
name in a funny way to maybe chuckle. But yeah, no,
I I really loved all of the just just kind
of his perspective, like it is extreme, but it's not
wrong really, Like yeah, exactly so. And like he killed
the imperial spy, which is probably an important thing to do, right,
Like the guy was beaconing towards the empire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was That's what I was gonna say. I
don't know if I'll forget that answer. There was part
of me that wondered if he was not a spy
and saw just.
Speaker 2: Like a beacon thing that he picked up, so that.
Speaker 3: No, in retrospect, and in retrospect, I can believe it
because you can look back at how he was asking
questions and when he was one on one with Wilman,
he's like, so yeah, he gashed it very casually, like
and who trained you? And he's like, oh, sorry, I'll
stop asking questions.
Speaker 1: So I agree with that, But Tarr, would you not
agree if I said, Hey, if they had to dedicate
the deadonate this bond bomb, they have a guy that
they've trained and he's iffy, where they have a guy
that they've trained that's perfect, that Saw would do some
trickery to keep the perfect guy there. That's what it's like.
That to me is not out of the realm possibility
for like, ah, we're just gonna frame this guy, kill him,
and then this guy has to stay. Where before it'd
be like, oh, well I've trained him, why you keep
me against my will? This is like, oh, I have
to get this guy as a spot. Like to me,
that's not out of the round possibility for something Saw
would do. He would go that far to make sure,
like I'm gonna make sure this guy that can do
the bomb is gonna do it. You know, you're probably right,
but I.
Speaker 3: Was like why not just make the guy just like okay,
well you know you can't do it, just be a
soldier and fight and then we'll keep the bomb guy here.
Why even have the guy, Like why train the person
to begin with?
Speaker 1: Well, because they want him to go. So the thing
is like this thing has to happen the next day, right,
So it's like, well, if you shoot him, it's like,
well I have no one else, so you have to stay,
you know.
Speaker 3: And that's why if that didn't even matter, they didn't
need to can convince him like oh we don't have
anyone now, so you have to stay. It was more like, hey,
you're gonna stay against your will, we'll just have a
bed for you.
Speaker 1: It is, but I think at least with that guy dead,
it's a little more With him, he buys into it
a bit of like okay, I'm the only one that
can do this, where if the other guy's just like
around and a soldier, it might be like, hey, why
why can't I just train the guy for a couple
more hours? But you're probably right. I do think he
was a spy, But it did creep my mind of like, oh, man,
like you know, I could not trust Sogro. That's definitely
the boss I'm not picking of, Like I don't want
to be on that camp because who knows what's going on.
But uh, and I love those little like alien people
he has with I can't remember what type of tubes. Yeah,
because that's in the Star Wars zero game. That's the
Jedi in the in the the strategy game. So I'm
excited to play as them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, everything was saw was great, And he's just
I think he's a piece of shit. You know, he's
a he's a radical, uh rebel, but yeah, he's just
ever since what he pulled, his stunt that he pulled
in in the Bad Batch, I just I hate him.
He's he's an asshole and he does just his willingness
to sacrifice other rebels and just people for the cause
and what his objectives are. I mean, yeah, he calls
it the greater good. He's just obsessed with killing the
Empire at this point. It's just yeah, that's a whole
bunch of craziness, and but it made it make it
makes for a compelling interesting character, that's for sure. And
it's neat to see him where he's kind of got
all his bits and pieces, So between now and Rogue
one he loses a lot more like his legs and
his other arm and all that. And he'sswilled done. He
has got his breather, which now we know and Rogue
one all jud in Rogue one, that fucking breather he's
got is probably just pure ghastly and he's inhaling. I
can't even picture, like the actual scene now and Roe one.
Speaker 1: I've lost everything. I've lost my eggs, I lost my bis.
What will you lose? I hope not that fuck he
would be the guy I would just freely admit, like Empire.
But that's what I'm really good for, A great of good.
I'm less.
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, someone pick up the tor chair.
Speaker 1: Sally For he called them to tubes. I'm zero tubes though,
sally For. I think I have nothing else on the
episode and left for the end. So if you got.
Speaker 2: Who attendant heart, I think that's how you say his name.
He was conversing with Lonnie. I think he was like
the undercover guy. So they kind of got like somewhat
singled out in the meeting, like in a good way.
I don't know he did something just basically said, we
have too many prisoners. We don't just start executing them.
I don't know. Again, another scene that I was a
little bit confused on. I must have been dozed off
or something. I don't know what happened here, but it
just seemed like Heret and Lonnie were like two peas
for like a lot of this. Has this been a
thing like for the last like they're just been kind
of working together, or have we seen any more about
like that character, like not the undercover guy, Like it
just seems like we're highlighting this character, and it just
seems like something's gonna happen with him because he's close
to Lonnie. Maybe he's gonna reveal, like find out about Lonnie. Yeah,
that's true, especially if Lonnie keeps meeting luth I don't
know where they're meeting, but like they gotta stop having
these meetings.
Speaker 1: Well, even though Luthen's like, we gotta have them more often,
because Lonnie says that like I thought you said.
Speaker 2: Right like every three months.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought he's like, oh, I thought the less
we meet the better, and he's well, things have changed,
so I don't remember that character. But also they throw
a lot of characters in there, and I did not
watch rewatch season one, And there's even stuff in the
recaps that like they didn't talk about, like mon Mafma's
cousins really showed that lady right, Like there's some so
I don't have the recolition. If so, I don't think
it's been anything as big, but I think you're right
that could play into he trips up, he finds out
about Lonnie, and that's how they find outbout Luth and
that could be the kind of the key to taking
Luthen down. So I think that will play into it.
And uh uh yeah, I like their den dynamics so far.
Just gonna little shitsters, so little shitsters.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. And then I did think we were going
to see the daughter uh here, which I was looking
forward to because I just it's only been a year,
so it's like maybe I wouldn't expect that much difference,
but I don't know, I just kind of wanted to
see this this lady now that's like super ingrained with
the uh I can't remember his name, but like the
crime Lord's just I don't even know what her role
is like the daughter like because her mom's like an
elected official, right, is that how they get those roles?
She's a senator or she appointed? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was elected. Yeah, she won. So No,
I don't think her daughter is anything of yet. I
think the idea would be to groom them to be
something more, especially with that other family. But I don't think.
I think right now is just the.
Speaker 2: Stages of because it's not like a high arch, it's
not like a monarchy or anything like that, right, I
guess just on the other side of the family, they're
just goodillionaires whatever the number would be. Okay, yeah, I know.
I'm just curious what have an influence maybe they're going
to have now, especially that she was already showing to
be kind of not aligned with Mon's ideals of just
you know, not being an evil dirpet.
Speaker 1: But that's a tough thing. I think we will see
her again, but I can also just not really seeing
her that much of Like, ah, she lost her to
the empire side, right, like that's the sacrifice of that
it So I don't know, but yeah, I'm I'm if
you on that. We didn't see here so I could
see I could see just one more appearance and that's
kind of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's the one that kills Luthen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Take a penis, just like sauce.
Speaker 1: That's so. She is a whole store collection.
Speaker 2: The collector they call her. Yeah, No, I have nothing else.
That's that's it. I'll dry it up. Saws undercarriage, Yep.
Speaker 3: I'm all dried up.
Speaker 1: It's truck dumb, it's a womb. Anyways, we'll end it there.
We'll be back next week for episodes uh seven nine.
We'll see if Song gets to keep his penis. We'll
see if Luthen gets keep his life. See what and
ors pretend to be this time? And I proise you
I'll not be born