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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentle and welcome back to the and

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Or Season two reviews. This week, episode four to six.

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I'm the fashion designer Tress now, and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I'm lights out.

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Speaker 3: I have the one hour of Taylor Field.

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Speaker 2: Hell, here you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we'll got as far as but tell you

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gotta vent. You were so wrong about that relationship those

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like in predictions, you're so far off of all what's

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happening now.

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Speaker 3: I never saw it coming there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get there. But yeah, obviously, if you haven't

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listened last week's episode, go back, because we did break

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one of the reason. Maybe you're because I know, I

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feel like this show in particular, everybody knows watching at

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a different speed because the three episode drop, like you

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know usually even like the Eastern like gua people, even

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if like Daredevil's Droping's okay, it's a nine one episode finished, done.

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But now it's like, oh, I've watched one, I've watched one,

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half watched two. So obviously maybe you're still wondering. I

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don't why you would have clicked on this. Maybe you're refuse.

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Who knows. We'll go back and check out that episode,

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big thank you, because we'll probably talk about on our

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next newscast. But last few weeks, the episodes we've been pumping,

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I've just been jumping to the top ten, So big

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thanking everyone listened to and or the episodes one to

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three of you, because that went to number eight without

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even being out for a week, which is pretty good.

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So we appreciate everyone that listened on. Hopefully you're staying

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on for the next three weeks. We'll be breaking it

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all down like the past episode, in the past seasons,

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all the good stuff. So mister Pats start us off

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with a usual as usual nonspoort, thoughts, will take a break,

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a lit'll add break for people if they've not seen

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all the episodes, and then we'll get into spoilers to

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have a nice warning. But Kirkland, what do you think

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of four to six.

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Speaker 2: Four six, Yeah, I know, I think it's still among

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the best Star Wars content I've ever seen in my

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life of just storytelling, Like the writing is just is

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so good and gripping and enticing. I think there's just

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so much. I feel like something that really hit me

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this week versus last week, and it's something that they've

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kind of had throughout the whole show. But I'm really

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feeling it now, focusing on certain characters and kind of

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the situation that they're in. I just feel like they

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do such a good job at showing the like the

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clauster phobia of like what the empire is on like everyone,

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feel so trapped, even though it's not like if they

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are seen like they're going to prison, it's just like

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the whole everything being like we're entering this this empire,

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you know, like it's the emperor running the show now,

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like it's it's we're still kind of in a transition period,

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but like not not really, I don't know. It just

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seems like from the rebellion standpoint, there's it's just like

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they're just being strangled and it's like you're, yeah, you're

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trying to like oxygen.

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Speaker 1: We're like in the final stages of full dictatorship, you know,

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like you're right on the precipice of everything's gone in

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the town when the town's like, oh, something bad's happened here.

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Oh how do we stop it? Well, everyone knows it's

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bad and we can't really stop. It's like, oh, so

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we're at that point where you're just kind of you're

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you're not fucked, but you're about to be fucked. Yeah,

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you know, you're you know, love is out.

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Speaker 2: The avalanche happened, you're like buried beneath the snow, but

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you can still kind of see light. But it's like

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every it's just like it's just closed in a little bit. Yeah, exactly.

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And I think they do such a good job of

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just giving that feel throughout the whole. It doesn't matter

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which character I'm falling. I feel like that is just

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the overall vibe of the galaxy right now, like especially

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people that are, you know, pushing for the rebellion, Like, yeah,

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I think they're doing a really good job of just

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hammering home on that. And yeah, no, just just give

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them credit because it's just so good. I feel like

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this batch of episodes I'm a little bit less high

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on than I was last week, and that's just because

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minor spoiler, we have a lot more Mond stuff last

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week and I was just loving that. So again, minor

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spoilers more of a back seat I think in this

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in this three for collection of episodes here, but everything

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else I think is really really solid. There's a couple

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of things I like, I don't want to say I

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have problems with it. Just seems like a little bit

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messy the way they went about it. But maybe I

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just completely misintered did what they were going for. So,

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you know, when we discuss it, maybe a little clear

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it over. But yeah, no, I think for the most

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part it is still really good. They have really good

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just stakes at play with. Again, doesn't matter which character

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or following. It seems like just everyone is like do

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or die on their missions, Like it doesn't matter if

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someone's gotta I don't know. Yeah, no, I won't say

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anything that's a spoiler. So but yeah, thumbs up, still

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recommend it. It's still fantastic. Two more weeks is that it? Yep,

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it's too soon. I know that six episodes of content,

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but still it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just did six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Halfway through the season.

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Speaker 2: We'll chop up every episode release it individually, you know,

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for an episodic release. It was interesting though. I'm was

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just talking with a couple of people my day to day,

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you know, met with the good old Patreon Tyler and

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we're talking about and Or, and I was asking just

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people have come across on if they're watching it. No

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one really even knew that this came out. Tyler was

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out the point that like he feels like it was

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like a marketing thing, like he really didn't even know

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it was out, And I'm like, I knew it was

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coming out, and I still feel like it was kind

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of a lack of whatever just getting it out there.

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for this show, just because they can be pretty dry

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and just going weak to week. I mean, I'm someone

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that loves the content, but just looking at as like

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a general viewer, I feel like they might really taper

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off on it. So I do understand why they did

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the three episode release for that reason. But yeah, just

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even just Star Wars fans that I that I know,

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maybe I work with, like they just they just really

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had no idea this was even out, And I'm just

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praising the gospel to it. But I don't know. I

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guess we interact with people that watch this show, so

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it's kind of it's kind of hard to judge with that.

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was like just non existent for the show.

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bread and butter in the future, because I feel like

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marketing is just so tough nowadays because it's something we

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have all time with algorithms or there's your feeds dedicated

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to you. When I go on YouTube and they're like,

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like every week on YouTube it's like Skeleton Crew Live. Now,

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it's like, well, I'm already watching that, like you're paying,

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like whatever, the This is why I don't think some

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of the stuff works, Like the algorithm whoever you're paying,

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it's not working. I'm already watching Skeleton Crew like this.

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for I won't say most, but I'll say like sixty

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percent of the stuff is I'm already subscribed this, I'm

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already watching this. So I feel like it's like, oh,

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they search in or this and that, make sure they're

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watching and or. But it's I guess that could be

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something right where someone my mom, which she wouldn't right,

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but like she searches and or like oh hey, and

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then now they're like they got to hit her over

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the head, like make sure you should watch watch, watch,

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be like okay, cool and then move on. And I

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really don't know what the one to three, like the

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three episodes, if that helps or hurt it, because I

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think it would stop from tapering off. But do people

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look at that and I know it sounds weird, but

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then they go oh three where like if it's right

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before bed, it's like, oh, well, there's one episode, I'll

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watch that. And it's that thing of like, oh, you

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won't watch a movie, but people watch three episodes of

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a show. But I wonder if it's that that's because

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it's not a conscious thing of like, oh, I'm just

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watching a season. I could stop any time where the

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three episodes might feel like I got I get through this.

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they paid for it, because I know they want it

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out there. But at the same time, it's like, I

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don't know what the numbers are. I feel like the

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numbers would be pretty similar to season Uh yeah, season one.

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prestige and it was nominated for Emmys, so I think

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there might be a few people that go, oh, I

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might check that out, but it's also problem. It's just

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so much shit nowadays, you know, like video games and

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think Star Wars hype is I got an all time low.

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maybe and or it's like, oh, I'll get to it eventually.

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still know his story. Like you just like plug in

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Rogue one. You know, this guy's down on the beach

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like trying to fuck gin. You know that's what's happened.

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after this, but I.

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two episodes, I'm like down, I'm definitely gonna finish off.

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I think like once we round off this season, I'm

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gonna plug on Rogue one for sure.

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I think my thoughts are pretty identical to Kurriclans. I

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don't know where his lower points are. I have some

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lower points. It's definitely it's a more related episode three,

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just some stuff that felt kind of predictable, and I

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won't say it got to cheesy, but it was some

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almost something that would make me question of like can

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this is a perfect ten. It's like this storyline is

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a little just a little lacking, and I feel like

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the show is usually great at really like layering things

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and making me feel justified, and all these characters are

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acting this way as X Y and Z. There's just

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an event that happened. I was like, this feels very

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melodramatic for the sake of being melodramatic, and I don't

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think they set it up in the right way. But

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there's a little less mon so that was disappointing, but

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great stuff going on with Diidra and Cerial. I'm really

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much digging that. And Diego Luna was tons of fun

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this episode because there's on episode in particular where he's

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undercover but he gets to have I think a bit

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more of a flashy like good time, which doesn't really

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happen with and Or. I guess we got that a

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little bit last week too, so maybe the season they're

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trying to give him a bit more levity, but this

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was just a different type to the point it's like, oh,

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I love like he should be a Bond villain or

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something like that. You know, that's what I want, like

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him and stellin Scars guard him as is like Luthor

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the wig, Like that's like one. Then we get Stelling

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next week we get Diego. So no, I think it

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was still great, but I definitely still prefer last week's

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one to three. I think this was weaker for not

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just because the lack of Mond, just like a few

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other things, but I think it did a great job

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of It's one of my favorite you know, tropes and

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story story, wood, Hollywood writing. And that's why The Dark

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Knight's my favorite movie. Is there's Batman, Joe, Gordon, and

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it's all like how far are you willing to get

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that goal? What are you willing to compromise? And not

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a big spoil. He's on the thumbnail saw Guerero's back,

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you're really seeing three sides. You know, it doesn't make sense.

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different story of how far men are willing to go

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and what they're willing to sacrifice and what is the

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line and what they're willing to cross. And someone like

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Saw that's almost like an outright I'll say in quotations monster,

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where Luthan is like, oh, yeah, like I'm trying to

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not be like that, but he's just being you know, yeah,

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I'll stop because the spoilers. But that's what I'm enjoying

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is that dynamic of you know, there's just certain things

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you're gonna have to choose when you're getting into this

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level of the mud. There's no more oh well, I

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want to do this and this. It's like no, if

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you want, you're either fully in you're fully out, because,

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like you said, Kirk, when we're at the point where, okay,

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we're about to get into the real shit, you can't

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be halfway halfway. And that's where there's one character that

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is and you know, there's a conversation about that, and

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it's just so that's what I'm enjoying, even though, like

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I said, I think one to three was stronger. So

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what about you, Tayfield, Oh.

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Speaker 3: You know this this arc, it gave me the the

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vibes of like German occupied France, just when we're looking

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at a certain thing with you. Yeah, I was there,

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got a lot of PTSD.

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Speaker 1: Your past life, but there is again not not well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can say that that's a spoiler.

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Speaker 2: It's like the French. It's not French, but yes, Taylor,

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you okay, it's it's like French, but changed a little bit.

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I swear they were talking German at one point, because

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it sounded like I was like, no, no, no, okay, it's

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a different language, different language. But ye, German occupied France.

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It's like changed the exactly exactly it.

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Speaker 3: But I quite enjoyed the UH this arc. I don't

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know which one I would enjoy more between this one

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and last week's UH. I think this. Last week's definitely

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felt like it was just had a little more hype

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behind it, a little bit more fire under under the cushion,

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But this one had a little bit more of a

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slow burn to it. I would have loved a little

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bit more Mone but I really enjoyed how things kind

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of picked up, and there was like one small confrontation

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between two characters that I really really enjoyed seeing. Me

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all of the serial stuff was just fucking wild, but

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I like, I like how it's not It's not like

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shattered and broken off. I feel like in terms of

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skipping a year and picking up the story and kind

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of getting into this this narrative again, it did a

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pretty okay job, and I'm happy with how cohesive it was,

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because I feel like it could have been very messy

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if it was not executed properly, but they did okay.

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I had a few expectations going into this episode, thinking okay, well,

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between this one and arc three, I feel like this

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is either gonna tackle some things. Unfortunately, one thing that

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I was looking forward to was in the time jump,

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which is very shitty because I would have loved to

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have seen that visually in these three episodes, and that

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was one of the highlights for me going into the show,

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was to think was thinking, Hey, I'm gonna get to

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see this, It's gonna be awesome. But unfortunately that's not

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the case. But I'll highlight that when we get into

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spoilers but yeah, I think where we go from here,

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I really don't know, because at this point from the trailers,

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I feel like we've seen everything. There might be a

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couple of things that are left that I'm overlooking, but.

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Speaker 2: Usually when we do, we're gonna jump a year. That's

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what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're spot on there. I like at this

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point usually in a TV show, when you get to

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that point, when you've we've seen everything so far that

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they showed in the trailers and that it's just at

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this point it's it's uncharted territory, that's when it gets

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really exciting for me. So who knows what we're gonna

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see next.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the trails that well, so I'll just

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have to take you by fake there that you're correct

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on that, because I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: But I don't so a lot of trailer shots this

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trailers that I remember over the first arc.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, anything else from this episode nonspots we want

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to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I don't recall really shouting out last week, but I

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feel like the score in general really just stood out

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to me in this episode or series of episodes. It

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it has like the atmosphere of Star Wars music, but

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then like mostly just like the like the noir, like

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Cloak and Dagger, like you know, occupied France music.

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Speaker 1: As there was some punk rock in there a little bit,

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right that happened last week with I guess there was

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some club music, but there's always like a little more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at like a house party, you know, at

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some sequence minor spoiler, and like the music was definitely

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going back to where was with the with the mond

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Rave sequence, and I loved it. You know, I was

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like cringing for a lyric to drop, but it didn't

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drop a lyric. So I think that's the best type

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of just air quote modern inclusion, like modern music inclusion.

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Star Wars is like just just keep lyrics out of it,

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and it feels spacey in a sort of way, or

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to have like alien lyrics. You know. I didn't really

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play Jedi Fallen Order, but I remember the opening very

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well and it had like just some alien song going

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fuck yeah. I get some more of that in these

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Star Wars shows. Get the French language, the Gorman language

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in there.

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have a good time there. Like this person is staying

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in the show. Here's one hour, one hour now, dear,

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just a person like she just lays there and then

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she's like I'm done, you know, like that's what that was.

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Speaker 3: Zero, she's packing, Yeah, cere else is doing that.

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Speaker 1: So uh, let's let's start with those two. Because very interesting, dynamic,

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interesting journey for Zero where he you know, he's doing

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his uh semi related I he's not with the IB

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but he's with the Empire. He's on Gorman. But we

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kind of have these, like I say, in each episode,

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we get something where episode four he's approached to he

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doesn't know this, but to be like a rat, a trader,

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but he thinks he's helping up the Empire. I'm just

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saying from the point of view, I know it's gonna

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be revealed for something else, but from the show, it's like, Okay,

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there's people that want to get in and get some

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information with the Empire. So what if they tell Sierra, like, hey,

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the isb they're going a little rogue to help the Empire.

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You should help us with this information. So you're like,

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oh shit, like he's gonna be an accidental rat. Episode

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five rolls around. No, he saw right through that he's

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not gonna be accident to rat. He's gonna wrap them

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out and be a double agent, which exactly we'll get to.

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And Ors like, you're sure you're gonna trust this, Like

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most of the time we've had these unparaphrasing, but he

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pretty much like most of them we've had, like these

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Empire leaks, they don't really work out, and you know, Digress,

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it's not gonna work out. And then episode six, obviously

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he was on a little bridge doing all the radio

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stuff calling it out, but we also got revealed that

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I can't remember the guy that works with Deirdre. He's

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like the best like Empire guy at the long Hair,

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the other older British chat.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he just.

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Speaker 1: Walks up to her and just says that you can't

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let him really know what's going on here. So again

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it's the situation of and when he even gave the

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information's like, oh, very well done. Zero he's like, and

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then when he walked out, he's like, this might be

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the greatest day of my life. Like Ciro's completely bought

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into the Empire. He had a chance to maybe do

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some good. Nothing he cares as much, right, but he

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had a chance to turn col turncoat. He didn't take it.

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But then, now do you think the Empire is gonna

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build them up and really welcome in. No, they're just

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using him as babe. Even deer Jo, who last week

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we talked about where man, they seem a lot closer

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than we thought they were gonna be. Still seems she

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could be bullshitting to the older gentlemen, But for me

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it didn't feel like that. NFL. She's still Hey, if

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it comes down to serial the mission, she's still gonna

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choose the mission over him. Maybe that will evolve, but yeah,

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tons of interesting stuff going on with them. As far

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as I wasn't sure, I was like, oh, man, is

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zero really gonna be like a accident a rat here

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for a bit? But no, he saw right through that.

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So I loved everything with these two. And yes, the

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one hour, you know, they had some time, just have

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some sex. But even then he was mad that they

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had him followed. So, like I said again, Tea, when

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I we talked in predictions, oh there's gonna be a couple, like, no, no,

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that's that's not something's gonna happen here. Last week they're

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have means with parents. Now they got there fucking with

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lights and everything like that. They're uh, but she's lying

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to him, so that might catch up to her eventually.

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Speaker 3: So well, I'm wondering. Obviously she's just using him. I

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can't imagine that this is an ongoing, like committed relationship

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at this point, Like she's just employing his services exchange, right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Maybe it's tough just because last

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week with the mother, it felt like she didn't have

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to go that far to even help him out, right,

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So and they've now been together for two years, Like

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I guess that's like a that's a long con job.

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Speaker 3: Then not even one hour over the span of two years.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, she he could have made different trips and

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everything and not not one hour or not two years

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because the first year they were together, right, they're living together,

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so one maybe, but we don't know what happened there.

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They could have seen each other throughout the We don't

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know how long he's been there. He's going back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the same video calls. You know, they were doing

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some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Just need five minutes in the office. I need one

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hour in the office.

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Speaker 2: Put the lights up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is major Party Gas.

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Speaker 1: By the way, no wonder, I've never remember part of

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gas party Gas.

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Speaker 2: That's not a good name. Actually, I didn't think it

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was a bad name till we're analyzing it here. I mean, yeah,

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I was like the perkangle in the video, you know,

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with anytime we're getting into cereal stuff and Padre. I

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was just so hyped, especially jumping from a year, like

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I just didn't know how that dynamic was gonna go. Obviously,

469
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,240
it starts us just following Cyril on Gorman, like without Dandra,

470
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,839
So it's like, Okay, something's going on.

471
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 3: There.

472
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: I really like just the whole setup of this. I

473
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,839
liked how set up that he's he's talking to his mom,

474
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,720
and like it just seemed like everyone in his office

475
00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,039
was just listening to his conversation. And then of course,

476
00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,720
you know, it's revealed later that he knew about this,

477
00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,160
so it's probably like a planned everything that's that's going on.

478
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,200
But in the moment, I'm just like this, Like poor Cyril,

479
00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:42,920
He's just like all of his private conversations with his

480
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,000
mom here just everybody's finding out about him.

481
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: But I was really thrown off because they were doing

482
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,039
the same where he was walking to work and they

483
00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:52,519
were playing the conversation. I thought he was on the

484
00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,359
phone talking to his moment. At one point he walked

485
00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:56,519
the stairs and he was talking, but his mouth wasn't

486
00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,599
moving all. I'm like, this is some the worst Star

487
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,680
Wars adr I've ever seen my and then they cut

488
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,640
to like him on a screen like okay, But at

489
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,920
first I was like worried, I've still not seen Craven,

490
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,599
but I'm like this, this is looking like Craven levels

491
00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:09,519
over here. But no, it was just a just a

492
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:12,519
call and yeah, his mom is I was kind of

493
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,319
I was surprised she was in this arc. I kind

494
00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:19,279
of thought, last what I'm gonna say last week, it's

495
00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:21,279
work a stream. But just like the last arc, I

496
00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,039
thought that was kind of it. I thought that would

497
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:25,640
just behave that's a section to show off some stuff

498
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,599
with them with his mother, show off how Deirdre you know,

499
00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:31,000
might care for me, if not wants to keep him

500
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:32,640
lying whatever. Maybe I did not think she'd be a

501
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,960
returning character. And now I'm in the sense that she'll

502
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,640
probably be there for all the arcs if she's here

503
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,680
for this one. So not sometie I was expecting. Not

504
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,359
not a negative. I was just kind of surprised that

505
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,680
we picked up back on that thread.

506
00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: Cyril's there, The Mom's gonna be there for sure.

507
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're package deal, those two.

508
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna need a place to stay when he finds

509
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,200
out that Dedre is like just lying to him and stuff, Right, so.

510
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 3: You can go stay at party as is.

511
00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't he's need to stay at party gases.

512
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: He leaves at the office party guys, be honest.

513
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't sleep at all. He's just he locked in.

514
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,160
He's perk party gas with the Empire and.

515
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: The bat, the bath attack, the tank.

516
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, sticks too. He's just juice. He knows the

517
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,440
Empire is taking over.

518
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he can he can feel he can feel

519
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,160
the constriction, you know, of the Empire's gript But uh yeah.

520
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,880
Getting back to Ceril and dandra H, I just really

521
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,839
like the whole setup of it. I liked when he

522
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440
was going to corusan It and their meeting. I really

523
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,400
thought she was going to be like pregnant or something

524
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,440
like in this year jump. I guess it's only a year,

525
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,640
so it's like, not think of a jump. Maybe after

526
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,880
these one hour meetings, you know, in the next dark

527
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440
well we'll see something. But I I think it's a

528
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,519
low chance that that will happen. But just as he

529
00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:46,720
was approaching it, I'm like, holy fuck, it's gonna happen.

530
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Didn't happen? What lad was even better though. I like

531
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:53,359
when he just walks in, just like you make sure

532
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,119
we weren't followed.

533
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we're in the clear.

534
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,279
Speaker 2: I made sure I did all the steps, and she's like,

535
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,359
I know I had I woe follow you. I'm just like, oh, okay, never,

536
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,039
I guess I was followed. It's just uh, it's such

537
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,960
a fun dynamic. Honestly, this like super like uptight, like

538
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:14,119
high ranking imperial lady who's like so for the empire,

539
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,440
Like she is like the tyrannical types that you know,

540
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,240
the emperor emperor would want on his team. And then

541
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:23,960
Ceial's like the boy scout who's like really into it

542
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,039
but like not to like he's not sitting at the

543
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:29,720
adult table when it comes to his imperial uh situation.

544
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,359
So it's just such a fun dynamic dynamic. I'm glad

545
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,680
it's still going on. Obviously, you know the lights out

546
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,519
seeing that was that was really fun. I was like,

547
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,839
I don't know, somewhat, I have this like encroaching feeling

548
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,920
that yes, Dandre is lying to him, and I do

549
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,039
think that he's gonna find out at some point, and

550
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,319
I'm kind of worried that that'll be like a turn

551
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,599
for him, like maybe he won't be so for the

552
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,799
Empire if he finds out that he's just being played

553
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:58,400
by this person that's supposed to mean a lot to him.

554
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,319
I feel like he's already been fucked up over by

555
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,920
the Empire like multiple times, and if something like that really,

556
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,759
like you know someone that's supposed to be close to him,

557
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,440
someone that he'd like he's sharing all these secrets with,

558
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,079
they're they're cutting the lights out together. I feel like

559
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,599
that might be a turn where he's like, fuck the Empire,

560
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:16,240
like I gotta burn it down, and maybe it'll be

561
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,119
done in a way that I'm really sold on it.

562
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,640
But I just I just don't really want that for

563
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,000
the character. I want him to just live and die

564
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,400
being a super imperial man, not of the Empire, you know,

565
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,920
or the good guys or anything. But I don't know,

566
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,759
just for the character, I would prefer not go that route.

567
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, I still wonder if it turns into not

568
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,920
so much a fuck the Empire, might just be to

569
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,119
fuck her over, you know, in a sense that just

570
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,920
take her down. But that's the thing I like with

571
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,559
their story because honestly, with and Or, we know which

572
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,559
way it's going with Mom Mafma, and we go like

573
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200
mo Mafma, we know, Okay, eventually she's gonna be kind

574
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,000
of brought out to light. We even see this episode

575
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:56,079
with God, what's Ben Manilson's character? Why am I forgetting

576
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,160
krandit cranic? Yeah, like we always see her in public

577
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,200
like kind of flecking her disagreements with people more so

578
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,720
than she should, right, and or we know where his

579
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:06,519
story's going. And I feel like, in a sense we

580
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,599
kind of know, like Luthen and Bis are probably gonna

581
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,960
bite it before this show's over, right, just because they're

582
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,440
especially now that they confirm bix and or a couple.

583
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Even last episode when she said my husband whatever, that

584
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:19,519
could have just been a play, right, Well, you're just

585
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:21,680
referring to him because you guys are living together, they're

586
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,240
in bed, there's implied sex, they're kissing, their dancing, so

587
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,400
they're clear together. I feel like if Pix was around,

588
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,599
there would be some mention in Rogue one. So that's

589
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,119
where with these two characters, because they're not all in

590
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Rogue one, you could just say, oh, well they're on

591
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,680
some fucking empire ship somewhere happy being evil. You could

592
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960
say they both die by just like rebels or and

593
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,680
or folk, right, Or it could be he takes her out,

594
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,279
she takes him out. There's some prison like there's That's

595
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,240
the thing with them. Their story is the most unpredictable,

596
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,039
not just because we don't know, like of Rogue one.

597
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,240
I just think the way they've shown the story that

598
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:57,079
it could call multiple facets because at the same time

599
00:26:58,079 --> 00:26:59,720
she is like, oh yeah, he can never know. But

600
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:02,160
the only time they get together, she's won to fuck

601
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,640
right now. Could that just be a power thing for her, sure?

602
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,039
But could there also be a sense that she's lying

603
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,400
to the empire, Like it's like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna

604
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,720
say of course, like doesn't matter, serial, I'll fuck him

605
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:14,960
over to be loyal to you. But maybe when we

606
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,039
get to they've been together for four years, maybe that

607
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:19,279
doesn't happen anymore, right, And that's why I don't know.

608
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,359
I can't tell you. In this situation where I could

609
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920
see all the scenarios painting out at working because I

610
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,720
think they've ridden that well that these characters are very

611
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,319
flushed on. You could see a motivation of which way

612
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,920
could go, Like I said that, you could easily just

613
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,319
be taken out whatever, you know. So I don't know.

614
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,519
I don't know how it's gonna end for our our

615
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,079
terrible empire couple here. So m hm, yeah, anything else

616
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:49,880
on those two No, no, no words, they're shaking their heads,

617
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,319
no listeners. Okay, let's go to let's go to and

618
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,559
Or and pis Taylor what do you think about this?

619
00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,440
You have Bix, who I was I like the mother surprised.

620
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,039
I feel like we talked about last week. Okay, you

621
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,839
know she's suffering from this PTSD, but she kind of

622
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960
you know, she survived that attack. She killed that guy.

623
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720
We're gonna jump one year, she'll probably be over it. No,

624
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,160
she's definitely not over it. And that's not conferment. But

625
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,000
that was still big in play. And then you had

626
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,720
and Or that had to go on a uh undercover

627
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,119
mission just at first to get some intel, but then

628
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,119
of course Luthen was lying and really want him to

629
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,960
do like a bigger mission, which and Or turned him down.

630
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,920
So what did you feel about these episodes for Bix

631
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359
and Or and again confirm that there are a couple.

632
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,279
Speaker 3: Couple again now so yeah, they're they're having hand hand

633
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,599
gestures with each other some stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna have

634
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,359
to get Madison tonight and be like, hold your hand

635
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,720
like this, I'm gonna go down like this. Uh.

636
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: I think I saw and Or actually do that in

637
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,039
the the episode when they're doing their hand things. He

638
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,240
was getting ready for the shocker.

639
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, with uh, you know, with the help of drugs.

640
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,799
Look with the help of drugs, BIS managed to turn around.

641
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:08,079
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Now you remember last year in Canada legalized

642
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,359
heroin and meth for a little bit. You should have known.

643
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,319
You all should have had your problems done a little meth.

644
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,559
I'm ready for that nine to five job.

645
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: My god, PTSD is just gone down.

646
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm curious.

647
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone take that note from this if you got

648
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,240
PTSD struggles hard drugs is the way to.

649
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:24,839
Speaker 2: Leave on drugs if you.

650
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, she she's in.

651
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,519
Speaker 1: Perk pics. The lights that was her head into the

652
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:50,519
fucking Empire building. She was looking fired up at the

653
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:51,559
end of this episode, so.

654
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,039
Speaker 2: She was fired enough.

655
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: And I love that that ending for her there, not

656
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,359
that she died, but just hurt her like rebirth, reborn

657
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,519
kind of moment. And I knew it was coming as

658
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,480
soon as we saw this this doctor crossed grossed guy

659
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,759
and uh, it's just he's walks in the room and

660
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,839
you can just see her shadow in the background. It's like, oh,

661
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,039
you're fucking over for you, goblin, goblin in the corner.

662
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,519
Speaker 1: You don't remember me. Yeah, even though I wasn't fully

663
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,799
convinced it was real for a second, because she's already

664
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:22,480
had a couple dream sequences, and so I thought, oh,

665
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,680
was this just her tripping out and she's thinking this

666
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,519
is what she wants to do. Clearly at the end

667
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,519
when Andor comes out and it's very realistic, that's how

668
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:30,559
it ends, and there's no wake up. I'm like, Okay,

669
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,799
it's real, and I'm happy it's real because now I

670
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,200
do feel like next week we will she'll be back

671
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,000
because we'll get a year jump. Now. I'm not saying

672
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480
she's completely healed, and I'm happy because that was my

673
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,920
complaint last week. It's like, oh, like I'm really liking

674
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,519
what they're doing with BIX and just to like, if

675
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,119
we jump in here and she say, okay, I'm a soldier,

676
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,759
get in, It's like that feels a little like cheating, right,

677
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,079
So I like that we still had some repercussions of

678
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:51,640
what's going on.

679
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,119
Speaker 2: So if they don't like double down on this drug

680
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160
use thing, I think they're missing the mark, especially that

681
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,759
and Or didn't even really like like he didn't even

682
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,240
see that right, Like like she she was doing it

683
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:03,960
while he was in the house and I really didn't

684
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,799
even catch her doing it. So I imagine that'll be you know,

685
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720
she'll be doing air quote better because she'll be working,

686
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,079
but I imagine she's gonna be going through some sort

687
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:16,480
of withdrawal things. And just like that sequence when Luthen

688
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,200
was talking to her and it's like, you know, it's

689
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,240
okay for a while, but I think eventually the nightmares

690
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,839
will come back and they'll be even worse. So it's

691
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,359
just like, oh man, I'm scared. I'm scared for that

692
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,039
to happen.

693
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,559
Speaker 1: Which I kind of liked because like, he you never know, Luthen,

694
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,680
He's a motherfucker. He could be lying, but you kind

695
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640
of get the sense that he's been in that situation

696
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440
where life is just ship and he just needs like

697
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,359
a little top up. And that's why I don't know.

698
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,480
It could be withdrawals, or it could be that she

699
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,480
could still be addicted to that stuff in like a

700
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:44,319
year from now. It could be even worse right now,

701
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,519
Oh I hope not. I think that could be the

702
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,440
driving that could be the driving force away from them.

703
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,720
Plus like like I know somebody might roll their eyes,

704
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,480
but I would not put past the show Like you're

705
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,319
telling me, Hey, BIG's gonna die from like Overdoe.

706
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, that would happen.

707
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: In the show, like like I would be surprised at

708
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,880
all of That's what kind of takes her down because

709
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,240
you just can't handle it, right, because she's getting all

710
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,200
this pressure and it's tough, right because I understand where

711
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,599
Luthen is when he goes like, hey, I guess we'll

712
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,079
tie luth in their journey here too where And he's like, Hey,

713
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,400
you feel this passionate about bis and that's great, that's

714
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,319
one person. You got a whole planet over there that

715
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,880
you don't feel this passionate about. And because I get

716
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,559
Andorer's perspective, that's someone he loves, he's personally connected to.

717
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,759
But Luthan's idea, he's not saying it out right, but

718
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,880
he's probably just saying like, yeah, that's a person you love,

719
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,920
but if they go, it's not really gonna make a difference.

720
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960
But this planet, this could make a difference in the war.

721
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:36,640
And that's why he's kind of saying like, you can't

722
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,039
be one foot in, one foot out. You're gonna have

723
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,240
this passion for all of it, right, And I do

724
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:43,799
get Luthan saying like, hey, I want Bix to be good,

725
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,680
but if she's not, we're gonna have to move on

726
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,039
one way or another, but it's just leaving her in

727
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,720
the dust or whatever, almost sending her on a suicide mission,

728
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,039
whatever it may be like. And I like that he

729
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:54,799
did and Or figure that out. He went to go

730
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,319
talk to Bix just because he knew Bix would talk

731
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,279
to and Or would get going. And that's where I

732
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,359
love the Juxtas position, because I don't think he's asthradical

733
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160
a Sagara, but he's like, he's like a few inches

734
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680
down and he's like he's he's just as bad in

735
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,160
a different direction. But at the same time they are

736
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,119
in war. They are in a situation where it's about

737
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:16,200
to get really really bad. And it's not like Luthen's wrong,

738
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,359
like and again anybody said to and Or it's really

739
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,160
fucked up when he says, hey, we could do this mission,

740
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
and and it goes, hey, like, we're gonna do this mission,

741
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,720
and what's it gonna do. We're gonna prove that the

742
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,039
Empire is dirty and things are just gonna go on,

743
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,759
and you know, Luthern kind of gives them back and

744
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,720
forth they go for a bit and his two pitches are, Okay,

745
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,559
we pull up this mission and maybe something comes from

746
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,160
some from it or we fail or whatever. They show

747
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
off the goods and it fails, but if the planet

748
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,319
goes down, it's almost like a worthy sacrifice. And Luthan

749
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,240
like like he's so just thinking of on a chess

750
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,440
piece level. He shows really no emotion because and ER's like, oh,

751
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
what is that gonna do? Like a city burning down?

752
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,079
He says something like, oh, it's gonna burn down in

753
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,039
a glorious fashion, pretty much, just saying like if this

754
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,519
city Gorman or this planet Gorman goes down, people are

755
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,960
gonna notice, and it's gonna you know, it's gonna Saw.

756
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,200
But that's a huge thing to go away, so it's

757
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:03,920
kind of a win for us if it screws up.

758
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160
And that's where it's like. And Or right now is

759
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,760
not on that thinking where Luthen is. You know, I

760
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,679
don't think he's as bad as Saw, but Saw is

761
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,719
similar in that fashion too. If something can go down

762
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,159
and benefit us, then cool, let's move on to the

763
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,599
next thing, right, So, very interesting dynamics with all three

764
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,280
of them. And yeah, back to Bigs. It's just she

765
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,639
knows that she's a burden and Or right now she's

766
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,840
a burden of Luthan because like she knows she should

767
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
be out there doing stuff and he's checking on her.

768
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,400
There's things implied, and it's just that's where it's like

769
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,599
I could see the drugs getting out of hand because

770
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:34,039
she just feels like, oh, I gotta be there for

771
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,559
these people for the cause. But if it's gonna tank

772
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:39,480
your whole life, is it worth it? And also I

773
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,280
don't know, because that's war and that's a tough situation.

774
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,079
But uh yeah, there's lots of layers to this, this

775
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:52,239
three way dynamic between them. Anything. Let's see we got Yeah,

776
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,920
so that guy's dead or he's well, he's lots of pain.

777
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,599
Then he got exploded, so he did die. But I

778
00:34:57,639 --> 00:34:59,480
did like that and or helps her out to do

779
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:00,800
that mission there.

780
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,079
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say,

781
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,760
I agree with you, Travis. I thought it was actually

782
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,519
a dream sequence, just because it felt like way too easy,

783
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,760
Like this guy is just working alone on the night ship.

784
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,079
He's like even the Emperor, you know, like that they

785
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,880
made it. They made note that like the Emperor. I

786
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:17,960
don't remember the line what was said, but it's just like.

787
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: He was doing well. So he was being moved to

788
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,639
a new division with the Navy. But the end was go.

789
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: And it was like the Emperor like himself kind of

790
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,400
like recognized that he's important, right like so it's like,

791
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,000
I feel like this guy would have like a security detail,

792
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,639
not like fucking Paul Blard watching him and just.

793
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: One guard outside, Hey, you can't be here, and then boom.

794
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,039
It felt it did feel very easy.

795
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: It seemed easy. I'll give them a pass. When I

796
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,880
like saw and Or, I'm like, okay, well it was

797
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,719
it was a team effort, so then you know they

798
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400
they use some resources here to get this mission done,

799
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,719
so maybe I'll give it a pass. And it was

800
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,719
just like an epic end of the show. So or

801
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,039
end of the episode. I thought it was pretty badass

802
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,639
and good for her. You know, she got her revenge.

803
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,800
I don't think that'll really end the nightmares or anything

804
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,519
like that. That's what she's got drugs for. Fortunately, as

805
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Taylor highlighted, so good for her or something else you

806
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,679
said with Luthen. Oh, when and Or showed up to

807
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,960
the H. Luthen's like shop essentially in the middle, I

808
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320
thought that was wild. I was like, man, this is

809
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,440
so so brutal here, like this is how you got.

810
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: That medality and you found on the ship and the life.

811
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,079
Speaker 3: He shouldn't even have told and or like they I

812
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,880
run a shop right here, you know this is this

813
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,519
is where you'll find me in person. That information shouldn't

814
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:43,719
be with anyone else except him and clear Yeah.

815
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: No, it's it's that's a major red flag and I'm

816
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239
curious if that's it probably won't happen, but it's it's

817
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,039
the type of thing that seems like such a big

818
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,079
deal that it's like I'm sure someone caught something and

819
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,360
then we're gonna see in a further episode of I

820
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,159
don't know, some imperial people look at the footage, but

821
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,119
I don't don't think it'll to that. I think the

822
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:04,480
I don't think Luthen's free in the.

823
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,639
Speaker 1: No, because they're they're not onto them, but they're they're

824
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:09,159
getting closer. Right with that track, like the ye they

825
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:10,960
were gonna scan everything and that's where you'd find the

826
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,800
might No, obviously it's just a routine scan at this point,

827
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,679
right to find out, oh is there people out there?

828
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,760
But still it's like like and Or showing up that happening,

829
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,320
even Luthen being in the room with his like weasel

830
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,639
guy and Kranick and mon Mothma all at the same time.

831
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:29,719
It's like, that's a dangerous combination of people to be

832
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,679
together because one slip up by somebody, because I thought

833
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:34,840
it was gonna happen when she was doing the whole

834
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,000
device thing and Luthan was looking over. Kranick was like

835
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,320
looking like he wasn't they didn't do this, but he was.

836
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,440
He was inquisitive, so I thought he was gonna see

837
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,400
Luthen watch and them be like why is he just

838
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,639
staring at these two? But it didn't happen at least

839
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:49,280
right now. Maybe that's something because again I do think

840
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Luthen will die, but I think this arc Luthen was

841
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,280
putting many precarious positions where and even said that too.

842
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,280
What's her name again, Claia, Claiah he said, which I liked.

843
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,559
He said, like we're drowning. He's like, I can't even

844
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:03,559
keep track of all the information we're getting out on

845
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,559
all the spies, because that's the tough thing, and that's

846
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:07,920
why they need someone like with mom Mothma and laying

847
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,679
all this stuff and more network because as much as

848
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,079
like like Luthen can't be the rebellion by himself and

849
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,480
that was and Or one right, And it's easy because

850
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,920
that's like a small group of people. It's still hundreds

851
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,159
of people. But it's like you have your team captains,

852
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,280
your leaders, you know, manager, your supervisors. But now when

853
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,880
it's spreading all out and you have mon over here,

854
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,360
and you have and Or, and you got Saw doing

855
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,800
his stuff, and then you have like Clear dealing with

856
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,679
her stuff, and then you got all these other agents

857
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,320
and now a whole planet. I like, there's no way

858
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,239
he can all this information. How do you pile It's

859
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,800
not like a computer, right, you can put that on

860
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,679
computer and be like, okay, here's a mission staying. You

861
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,400
can't do that with this, you have to it's all

862
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,639
like with whispers and secrets. So I love that he

863
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,639
did say the like, we're we're at our end's rope

864
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,480
right now with all this. It's it's good to have

865
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,440
getting information, but it's like trying to keep track of Okay,

866
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,079
what's and Or up to? What's this guy up to?

867
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:54,159
Speaker 2: You?

868
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Well, now there's a device and oh my god, he's

869
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,880
mad at her for it, but it's uh, yeah, they

870
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:01,239
it's gonna catch I think that's what they're trying to

871
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,559
emphasize is he's inches away from getting caught, and I

872
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:06,920
think unfortunate he's gonna get caught. Who catches him?

873
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know who it'll be.

874
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,960
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a Cranic just because

875
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,840
he's like the big big on show. I was hyped

876
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,480
when he was in here, just like Ben Milson. Let's

877
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,639
go and yeah. Just again, whenever I have a character

878
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,559
that's like interacted with like Shive or someone in the past,

879
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,599
I'm like, oh man, this is this, this is adding

880
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,679
to some weight to this. And honestly I didn't have

881
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,599
any of these thoughts going into the season, but specifically

882
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,119
in this arc, I would not be surprised if we

883
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:41,760
get an Emperor appearance somewhere before the show is done. Okay, well,

884
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,079
there you go. And I'm surprised by that news. It

885
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,039
just seems like it would fit so well though, because

886
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,119
they keep bringing him up, they keep mentioning his name,

887
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:52,360
and like just the whole secret club that they got

888
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,239
going on right with uh para pair of gas and

889
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,960
fucking Deirdre and those guys Crnics team. It just seems

890
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,440
like we're keep keep hinting around the boogeyman that is

891
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,480
the Emperor, and I think it would have just added

892
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,440
so much to have that appearance somewhere in the show

893
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,400
and again just a hologram, like like you don't even

894
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,000
have to have him there or anything like that.

895
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: Sad, Sad they're not doing it.

896
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, gil Roy just said it was too much of

897
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,440
a lift, and I think he's just kind of applying

898
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480
what it took a lot away from the show. But

899
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:24,519
as we've gone.

900
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: Off with vadera no, he confirmed that too.

901
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,679
Speaker 1: No Vader. He just said, like it's hard to write

902
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:32,920
for Vader, which I can understand when you're not dealing

903
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,679
with certain things, but Emperor, it's like, especially even with

904
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,159
the Senator stuff or like the Senate stuff like in

905
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:42,480
all the I don't know, like I don't know, I'd

906
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,000
have to have a personal conversation with Tony Gilroy because

907
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880
I'm not a writer, but I just feel like, isn't

908
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,840
that much of a lyft with all the stuff you're

909
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,960
kind of setting up, Like it almost feels like Vader

910
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,679
not as much. Emperor, feels like there is almost like

911
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,079
a little missing aspect there if we don't get him,

912
00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,119
you know, and we're not. But it just it does

913
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:00,960
because when Tarry was pitched that before, it's like, I

914
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960
don't know, but the way the season has been layered,

915
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,320
it to me would make someone think, oh, you're gonna

916
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,760
get at least a scene, you know, and the fact

917
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,079
that sounds like we're not. I I understand that as

918
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,800
far as again it's a massive character right and bring

919
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,440
that in maybe you want to you know, feel you

920
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,440
want to have the time or even just like money

921
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,639
wise again because like fucking my boy, Jimmy Smith's got

922
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,480
recast because Tony Gailroy said that a legacy I think

923
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,559
he said legacy character. I don't know if he said characters,

924
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:28,920
but at least one character has recast because of scheduling

925
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,119
and financial issues. So I think maybe Jimmy Smith's just

926
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,159
want more money than for I'm imagining or gone us

927
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,800
in like another scene I would hope to be a

928
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,199
dumb scene to like just hey.

929
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: Maybe completely pointless. Completely The way that they're talking about

930
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
it though, implies that, Okay, we're gonna see him again,

931
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,159
and I'm assuming probably with like the last arc because

932
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:52,280
the rope one.

933
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,039
Speaker 1: That was the only scene. I'd be like, yeah, Jimmy

934
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,800
Smith's be like, you want me to fly down for what? For?

935
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840
How much? Like I don't know, like and you know,

936
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,480
I guess see Jimmy Spiz pigs dexter over this, so

937
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:05,199
we'll be talking about him come July. So I I

938
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,119
got caught one of that last week. But maybe that's

939
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,760
just a situation where maybe it's like maybe the lift

940
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,840
was like putting money Ian McDermott's pocketbook right of, like, hey,

941
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,079
like that's because that to me, I personally don't like

942
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,199
that they recast Jimmy Spitz. I think you just don't

943
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,519
have Bail in there. But I can see them doing that.

944
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:23,800
I don't think you recast the emperor, right, And that

945
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,280
could be the situation where're like, yeah, we can have

946
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,559
Ian in here, but you know, we already paying a

947
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:31,039
lot for Obi Wan and it was already expensive because

948
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:33,880
it looks great. You know, the lift is can we

949
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,360
afford Ian? And I don't know if that's so. That

950
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,679
might just be an easier way to say, oh, I

951
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,039
just couldn't figure out way to get him. But this

952
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:41,719
season feels like it's riddled with a like.

953
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's saying, I know the Emperor, I know the Emperor.

954
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,199
Oh I just talked with the Emperor. It's like, just

955
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,880
give us the Emperor just to piggyback on what you're saying.

956
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,360
I really thought we were gonna see him in this,

957
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,840
because well everyone knows Palpatine is just he's the dark

958
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,679
Lord of the Sith. You know, he's like, ah, like

959
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:07,239
old perk Angle there, but he needs he's he's definitely

960
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,280
the looming in the background, like manipulating and everything like that,

961
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,639
dark forces or all that kind of stuff. But yes,

962
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,880
you see the other side of him in the prequel movies,

963
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:18,599
and you get to see some of that stuff in

964
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:21,800
the Clone Wars. Yaha yah yahda. But like the best

965
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,719
post Empire moment of him that you get to see

966
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,920
is uh like in the Bad Batch. It's a third

967
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,840
episode of season three, and it's amazing. There's a Senate

968
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,599
here in you got all the senators in there. I'm

969
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,440
pretty sure Baylor Gano is in this. In this in

970
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:39,880
just a little bit of context. So they're trying to

971
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,599
vote on a bill to allow the decommissioned Clone Troopers

972
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,039
to have a little bit like severance and like stability,

973
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:46,639
but instead of just being like sent out to be

974
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,320
homeless because they're trying to decommission the Clone army at

975
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,800
usher in the stormtroopers, and so there's a senator called

976
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,400
Senator Chucci who's trying to petition for the Clones to

977
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,840
have rights, and so it's getting out of control and whatnot.

978
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,039
And then they just they play the footage showing that

979
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,400
the Clones were ordered to bombard and destroy Camino and

980
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,239
this one Imperial admiral is Admiral Rampart's being just castrated

981
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,440
here by all the senators like what the fuck, Like,

982
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,199
how are we supposed to feel safe? Like this is

983
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,400
crazy the Clones, And so the whole Senate hearing is

984
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
just chaos, and then this buzzer goes off and then

985
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,199
the center platform comes up and Palpatine comes up and

986
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,239
he immediately goes into Chancellor Emperor like pol political mode,

987
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:33,119
and it's fucking amazing because he turns this around and

988
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,840
he's like, yeah, the fact that the Clones so blindly

989
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,400
follow orders, this is unsafe. We need a reliable, structured military,

990
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,280
so we're gonna usher in this Clone bill. And he's like,

991
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,079
it's my opinion that this legislation moves forward with this,

992
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,400
and he's just talking and it's like man, that is

993
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,599
the political side of Palpatine that I really wish that

994
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,239
we got to see in this show. And it would

995
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,280
fit so well if you have something like that. And

996
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,400
while I don't mind seeing another alien saying in the

997
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,840
center podium like joh An Empire that together holiness, Yeah,

998
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:04,960
it's like, you know, it's just it's not the same.

999
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:08,159
I really would have just that would have been the

1000
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,760
icing on top. This would have been fucking perfect to

1001
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,800
have the Emperor right there, because even like they we

1002
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,760
you know, Revenge of the Sith. They're talking about how

1003
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,480
how did they word it? I'm paraphrasing, but uh, they

1004
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:26,199
were worried that this emergency hearing of the Senate was

1005
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,719
going to be a trap, but they were talking at

1006
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,719
the same time like no, because the Emperor has to

1007
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,280
keep all the systems together, and the Senate intact basically

1008
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,519
to keep things cohesive. And we don't learn until a

1009
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,800
new Hope that the last remnants of the old Republic

1010
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,000
kind of get swept away by the Emperor. Right, So

1011
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,440
they're still dealing with like the Senate and still a

1012
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,800
lot of political things involved that at this point too. Yes,

1013
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,760
people are afraid of challenging the empire, as we could

1014
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,280
see with Man trying to rally petition to put an

1015
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,199
end to this new platform that the emperor was petitioning for.

1016
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,679
Speaker 1: So again, it's just it's that's the most egregious one.

1017
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,840
When they have I can't remember the one the guy

1018
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,960
who's like tied to Gorman and he's like, oh, you're

1019
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
gonna like publicly vote against the emperor, that to me

1020
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,719
was the most egregious of Like you have literally people

1021
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,360
talk about her going against the emperor. You don't have

1022
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,320
him in the show. That's where I can buy like

1023
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,920
he built up of the Emperor, I talked to him

1024
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,920
and wants to do this. Fine, but when you actually

1025
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,599
have Mono pose, I feel like you're setting that's the

1026
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,639
character that should be having that moment. And especially with

1027
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,159
Kranick where she's starting to speak up publicly and it's

1028
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,599
getting really awkward, that's where I think, oh, there's no

1029
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,559
one else will say anything, and before because honestly, mam

1030
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:34,199
Mama is eventually gonna bounce right and join the rebellion

1031
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,880
and just be like off in the base and stuff

1032
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,800
like that. I feel like there are probably a few

1033
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,039
moments where Okay, she's a number one uno emy enemy

1034
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:46,960
of the Empire, and her speaking out publicly against Palpatine,

1035
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,880
like in front of everybody. That could be a really

1036
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,480
great moment for that character. But obviously we're not getting that,

1037
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:55,760
so they'll probably do something else. So we'll see. Let's

1038
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,280
take a break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

1039
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,280
Where do we want to go next?

1040
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: Where?

1041
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh?

1042
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:08,679
Speaker 1: I just want to mention when you talked about Kranic

1043
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:10,440
being the one to get Luthen, the reason I do

1044
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:12,400
want that is because I want a scene of Kranick

1045
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,400
and real Luthen to have a conversation, because I think

1046
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,440
there'd be some outstanding television, not like fake Luthen. So

1047
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,559
I hope you're right and that does happen, and then

1048
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:20,960
we go over there. I hope it's not just like

1049
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,400
Luthen's on a ship and explode, you know.

1050
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: I hope it's like that Deadpool or seeing where Kanik

1051
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,519
reaches out and grabs Luthen's head and Luthen falls back

1052
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,480
and like the hair comes off, and Kranik is like

1053
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,079
a look of looks at the wig like the TVA

1054
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:35,199
agent to Deadpool.

1055
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,639
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that route, but there's a left track

1056
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,000
in the scene to uplift it.

1057
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

1058
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,599
Speaker 2: I think it was when we were talking about Luthen,

1059
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:50,199
I meant to mention, I love just uh Varian Sky.

1060
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,559
Was that his name? Fashion design Yeah? The fashion designer

1061
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,320
just a really fun role for especially because I feel

1062
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,199
like and Or specifically like and like Cassie and Andor

1063
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,119
in this show is just so serious and like there's

1064
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,400
some moments where he might have like a light comment

1065
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,840
like I would I would, I would argue even to

1066
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000
call it a joke. It's just like he just seems

1067
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:14,119
so serious for the most part throughout the whole show,

1068
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,320
and then in here where he's just being this like

1069
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,000
he's like he's trying to be like his best Luthen

1070
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,840
essentially here with like the Designer. I don't think he

1071
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,320
even gets half to the charisma of what Luthen gets to. Uh,

1072
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,920
But you know, Luthan's been doing it a lot longer,

1073
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,920
so I'll give him a pass there. But yeah, when

1074
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,280
he's just like going from the fashion designer to like

1075
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,840
in the same sentence, just gets really serious and like

1076
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,320
starts talking about all these things, and then as they're

1077
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,519
like wrapping up the conversation, he's like getting his coat

1078
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,159
and then it's like, oh, yeah, you can get that

1079
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,400
sent to my house. Yeah whatever it was. So, I

1080
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:49,960
thought that was really really fun and just a different

1081
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,960
role that we've seen for and or have to play

1082
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,079
in this game of spy. Yeah.

1083
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: No, I thought there's multiple great stuff there that was fun.

1084
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,400
I liked his scene at the bell hop because that

1085
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,639
felt like a fucking video game RPG where it felt

1086
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,599
like you could see the text bubbles over and or

1087
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,119
like trying to say the right thing to get him

1088
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,760
to speak of like oh, I'm just looking for information.

1089
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,119
Then he could throw It's almost like the you know,

1090
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,559
say something good bad, pay money, And that's what he did.

1091
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:16,840
He gave him some money. He's like, well, you know,

1092
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,679
we're not supposed to talk about this, but I actually

1093
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,320
like that scene with the bell hop because it's just

1094
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,000
like it puts a perspective of he doesn't look like

1095
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:25,800
he should be there because he's younger. Guy was Yeah,

1096
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,679
this happened when I was twelve, and fucking brutal story

1097
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,159
of Tark and just being like, oh, no, one thought

1098
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,480
they're gonna land a ship on a bunch of unarmed

1099
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,679
people and they just fucking did. And then like took

1100
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,840
it over. So it's like, damn, that's that's brutal. So

1101
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,280
I liked that a good juxtaposition where I really liked

1102
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,480
the scene where I can't remember her name, but the

1103
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:45,840
daughter of the main guy and or his main contact

1104
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,400
with that she kind of rushed him the restaurant one

1105
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,599
and get that meeting going, and when he ran down like, hey,

1106
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,719
I could be is b I could be just playing

1107
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,519
you for a trick to get money. Listened all these

1108
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,880
ways she could fail and him be like, you never

1109
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,639
do that, like you never you got to get better

1110
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:01,960
at this. I enjoy that because one, that's a few

1111
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,840
things we saw back in the other and or but

1112
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,920
two it kind of makes him hypocritical because what did

1113
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360
he do with Luthen either in this episode later on

1114
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920
or the next episode when he just rushed the Luthen shop, right,

1115
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:13,519
So the same way where he's like, oh, you make

1116
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,079
one mistake, everyone you know could be locked up, that's

1117
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,039
what he did with Luthan, Like what if people are

1118
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:21,400
fucking watching Luthen show like whatever, like we talked about, right,

1119
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,679
and what if that leads to Luthen getting caught his

1120
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,280
assistant Dick. So that's where again it shows Okay, yeah

1121
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,239
he is cool, calm, collective, but when he's given these

1122
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,960
people shit for all their Russian, they're all feeling this

1123
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,199
is too personal and they're gonna worry. It's like that's

1124
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:35,960
what you're doing too, dude. And that's what Luthen was

1125
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,880
trying to say to him as well, like, no, he

1126
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,800
didn't have that context that conversation, but of the personal

1127
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,719
versus the greater good, and that's where it's like even

1128
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,440
you and or want to put that aside. But no,

1129
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:48,440
everything was good, the conversations with everybody, and I liked

1130
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,400
that and Or until that Luthen stuff, definitely felt like

1131
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,559
he was a ver Tama Rbg's he was like a

1132
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:55,880
way higher level and they talked about that, but like

1133
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,000
way higher level than all these people as far as

1134
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
like their plans. And he doesn't look like cocky about

1135
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,679
it or arrogant, but he does have a sense of

1136
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,679
like you guys are way overhead, like you this like

1137
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,639
you're you can't pull us off and if you do,

1138
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,599
it's not even worth it. Like he just feels like

1139
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:12,639
this mission is kind of could put and even he

1140
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:14,639
tells than that right, He's like, I'm sitting this one out.

1141
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,639
There's for other reasons because he thinks it's risky and

1142
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:19,039
we'll get to that later. But yeah, I think this

1143
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,360
was a highlight. It's good because I don't know, I

1144
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,320
could be wrong, but I just feel like, because it's

1145
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,719
six episodes left, I don't know how much more comedic

1146
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,800
and or we're gonna get, you know, like we got

1147
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,440
a little bit last week with the ship and those

1148
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,400
are the other the people that took him prisoner, and

1149
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,719
then we got this. I feel like the next six

1150
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,760
that that area has kind of gone. Barring a quick

1151
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,280
or two, I guess we do got K two s

1152
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,400
so coming right, So I imagine there will be some

1153
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,079
comedic bits there, but I feel like that'll be him

1154
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,800
reacting to K twos oh doing the comedic stuff, rather

1155
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,440
than and or being like, I'm a chef and I'm

1156
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,599
here to look at the balls, you know, so like

1157
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,920
chicken balls, not yeah and yeah, the thing was tattooing

1158
00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:59,800
chicken balls or whatever whatever that thing wata was. I remember,

1159
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,400
uh jar jar he like he's trying to get it

1160
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,920
with his tongue and then he hits whatever that is.

1161
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,239
There's probably some good balls there, you know, good balls.

1162
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, everything uh, because you guys are talking

1163
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:18,599
about critic just before. I loved seeing Krinic in this

1164
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,760
that was great. Him going head to head with Mathma,

1165
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,840
that was fantastic. I agree with you guys. I'd love

1166
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,880
to see him kind of be the one to kind

1167
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,400
of like take a shot towards Luthen when Luthen is

1168
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,880
exposed or revealed to be the main like rebel cell contact.

1169
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Very naked strap to a cell somewhere.

1170
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,519
Speaker 1: That's right, keeps the wig though, They let him keep

1171
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,840
the wig, just disrespect him.

1172
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see how

1173
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,760
that that is unfolded and that plays out with with

1174
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,119
his character. Obviously, we know he's not gonna die, but

1175
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:58,199
Luthen might and many others might. Still. What was it

1176
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:01,199
that you transitioned to after that? It was Gorman incident.

1177
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,679
That's the thing that I really wish they didn't skip

1178
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,679
over in this year. I was so looking forward to

1179
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400
seeing the people protesting and everything going on, and now

1180
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,719
I just feel like, Okay, well we're getting another protest

1181
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,400
after the initial protest, and that protest like, that's that's

1182
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,039
the big cheese, that's the big thing that put Mathma

1183
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:20,119
in this position with what's going on in the Senate

1184
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,320
and whatnot, and I just think it's it's it's unfortunate.

1185
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,639
I would really have loved to have seen just that

1186
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:26,519
Gorman incident.

1187
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: Is that just because we didn't have a targ In

1188
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,960
to use? You think.

1189
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1190
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: But I feel like you don't even need to show

1191
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719
his face, Like you could have just had again the

1192
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,039
ship landing and get like a back view shot.

1193
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, like or even some voice or something like that too, right,

1194
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:44,639
So I feel like there's a way you could have

1195
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,840
maybe not a full episode, but at least the incident.

1196
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,000
I think they could have showed off because they told

1197
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,800
us that story without seeing Targan here. They literally did

1198
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:55,159
in this situation a tell them, not show. They told

1199
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,880
the story of what happens. I think you could have

1200
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,599
done that with some actor or knowing Disney. Now, they

1201
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,159
probably just what he used fucking AI voice modulat or

1202
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:04,119
to get Tarkin in there, But I think you could

1203
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,480
do something. So it was it was a law but

1204
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:08,480
maybe again, who knows whether they didn't want to cross

1205
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:11,000
that bridge again, whether it's a budgetary thing or it's

1206
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,519
that we talked about too. Right, this was supposed to

1207
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,440
be multiple seasons now scrammed into one, and they just

1208
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,239
probably looked at like, hey, what what can we keep

1209
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,960
and what should we discard? Right, And maybe it's okay, Well,

1210
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,400
this whole sequence is great, but we could just have

1211
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,320
a couple of characters say this in a few senses

1212
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,360
and then we got the point across. So mmm uh,

1213
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:31,480
just because where we move past it and much day

1214
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,800
other then. I really liked the sequence of her trying

1215
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,079
to I always forget her name, was it Clia Clia,

1216
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:41,159
her getting the recording device out of there, really great

1217
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:45,159
stuff with that. The IP guy who's like very squirrellly

1218
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,280
and man, he's going through the ringer but just moved

1219
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,079
to left of the right.

1220
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: Fucking stressful if you're his position, Like you're not even

1221
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,840
supposed to interact with this person, and like day to

1222
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,639
day and she's like, we gotta go do this in

1223
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:56,880
front of all your bosses right now.

1224
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,679
Speaker 1: But at the same time, just listen to her and

1225
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,199
have the fucking tales. I'm not grabbing this table. It's

1226
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:06,079
like you're gonna be a scene. Just grabbed the fucking

1227
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:09,800
tales gonna be over. But like literally your hands bleeding so, uh, yeah,

1228
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,000
she's a great soldier, unfortunate. I think she's gonna meet

1229
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,360
a bad ending as well too. But I like her

1230
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,400
more and more, and I really liked her and luten

1231
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,840
scene at the end when they're just kind of again

1232
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:21,119
some levity of like, oh, I thought you were gonna

1233
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:24,000
kill Crenick right there, like some levity of okay, they

1234
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,039
they both went through this situation where it literally could

1235
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,559
have been over for them, but they figured it out

1236
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,039
and got there and again, probably sad ending coming. But

1237
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,800
I really like that scene and everything with the art

1238
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,480
and seeing the r and then looking at it. That

1239
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,440
whole party scene, Uh was great.

1240
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,599
Speaker 3: So did you see all the Maybe we talked about

1241
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:43,239
this in season one, but I have no recollection whatsoever.

1242
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,639
This conversation that Clia is made or Clia is maybe Leah.

1243
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:52,360
Apparently that's a big rumor conspiracy that I think. Lease,

1244
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,719
I think I remember that.

1245
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need to go down that path.

1246
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,039
Speaker 2: I see some similarities. Actually know that you mentioned that,

1247
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:00,760
and just like the fake like she.

1248
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:04,599
Speaker 3: Looks, yeah, that's the only foundation for this, this kind

1249
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:07,360
of trajectory. But I just hope she's an original character.

1250
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,079
I don't need it to be.

1251
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also weird of bails at that

1252
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,000
same party. You wouldn't you think like that could be

1253
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:14,199
weird of like he's gonna be like that.

1254
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: He wakes at her. It's like, what's that all about?

1255
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because there are times Princess Credits have seen

1256
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,400
everybody like starings, You're like, what is going on? Like No,

1257
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,599
I just think that's weird because like eventually, like Organa,

1258
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,239
he plays along like mom mafmon does, right, he is like,

1259
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,199
oh yeah, I'm for the Empire. So I imagine at

1260
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,599
some point people would have saw his daughter, Princess Leah,

1261
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:36,760
So it feel really weird that they're at the same.

1262
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: Daughter working as a secretary of story.

1263
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,559
Speaker 1: Four weeks later. If they didn't know was his daughter

1264
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,280
and now she's with him, be like that was your daughter,

1265
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Like why didn't even introduce Like so no, I think

1266
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,920
we're I think if she was just stayed in that shop, maybe,

1267
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,639
but she's been too out in the public to me

1268
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,679
for her to not be Princess Leah to all the

1269
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,960
wrong that would just seem that seemed too As somebody

1270
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,119
that likes the twist, that seemed like the whole John

1271
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:03,760
Blake is Robin from Dark Knight Rises, and I like that.

1272
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,199
I think that's fine. This to me would be a

1273
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,239
little to agree just because there's past stuff where Robin

1274
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,840
in that universe was just that's the first time we

1275
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,719
met him, right, So.

1276
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.

1277
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the only thing I was gonna

1278
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,800
talk not the only thing, but the thing that I

1279
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,840
disliked was the I can't remember their two names, but

1280
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,800
alstly Android does not go on the mission, so he

1281
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:33,719
sends which was off belllls you. So my defense was

1282
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,079
the recap I watched said it was her sisters they

1283
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:40,519
fucked me. But you were right again, uh not saying

1284
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:42,880
you care. I say that the recap or they fucked me.

1285
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,119
But again, great line the show. I love. When you

1286
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:49,159
should see how Gone lutheren in is, he's like, oh, like,

1287
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:51,480
have you heard from a cousin in three months? He's like, oh,

1288
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:53,280
what's it about? And she's going on off and the thing.

1289
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,880
He's like, well, what what message do you want me

1290
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,159
to send? And he's like, she's like that I care

1291
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,559
about her, like he does not. He doesn't even he

1292
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:04,199
can't even think that. That's the only reason Mom Offman

1293
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:06,320
wants to know about her cousin, not because the mission,

1294
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:10,000
not the success rate, bunny whatever. It is all Lutheran checklist.

1295
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,320
There's no thought of, oh, maybe she just wants to

1296
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,840
know about how her family members doing. And he just

1297
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,920
kind of looks shellshocking, and she says like, because I care,

1298
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,920
because I think Luthan's kind of lost that, right. He's

1299
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:21,280
he cares to a point, but again he's shown he's

1300
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,000
like Saw, where if it comes down to a person,

1301
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:25,519
he cares on the mission, he's gonna pick the mission.

1302
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,039
And that's where I like that because again it shows

1303
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,039
I think that's the difference between Luthan and Saw, and

1304
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,760
then what the rebellion becomes with Man and land, Luke

1305
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,599
and Hahn, where you can't have some cutthroatness but you

1306
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:38,960
still gotta have the heart, Like that's what's gonna because

1307
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,119
then you're no better than the enemies. Right. But so

1308
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,639
he sends the cousin and the second which I was

1309
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:48,480
glad because okay, there's that girl that she's liked, and

1310
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:50,599
I was like, yeah, since it's like, okay, you guys

1311
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:52,960
gotta get it on because he might die and she

1312
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,960
did die. I did not like this whole secret The

1313
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:59,719
Heights was fine, but it was so cheesy of they're

1314
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:02,079
doing his heist and the guy with his fucking suspender

1315
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:04,679
shows up. What's going on? It's like it's this weird

1316
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,920
almost like Mandalorian set where it's just like one alley

1317
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,920
and like a couple of people. It's like feels like

1318
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,960
a play and and or doesn't usually feel like that.

1319
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,880
And it felt weird because like maybe I was wrong

1320
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,519
in the meetings. He felt like he was pretty much

1321
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:18,559
like against the empire, right that guy?

1322
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he helped them escape too.

1323
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 1: Yes, So my whole thing is like no one diffuse situations.

1324
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:26,840
Pulls to like hey, for fuck, like we're trying to

1325
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,719
take them the fucking empire, like just like try, but

1326
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,440
just to be like go home, go home, Like that

1327
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:32,119
was cheesy.

1328
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,519
Speaker 3: Pulls a gun on.

1329
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,199
Speaker 1: Him, yeah, like it's and I get it because he's

1330
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,400
a rookie, but like and to do like the way

1331
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,159
you kill her is wrestling with a gun. The shoot

1332
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:42,960
her and like you said, he he comes over, I'll

1333
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,199
take her back. So it's just like in a second,

1334
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,719
it's not even like he shoots her and then he's

1335
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:50,599
still like I'm fucking Raniola, because maybe he's against the empire,

1336
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,800
but he still doesn't like he doesn't want to get caught, right,

1337
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,000
he just still is gonna whatever his motivation is, he

1338
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,679
doesn't want to do that, but no, he just kind

1339
00:59:57,679 --> 00:59:59,960
of helps them complete the heist and gets the body back.

1340
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,679
So I thought for and Or, which is usually never

1341
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,800
a messy show, that whole sequence was very messy, and

1342
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,440
I wish they gave like, I get what they're trying

1343
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,360
to do. Unexperienced rookie makes a mistake, but like, what

1344
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,440
else was he supposed to really? I didn't say the

1345
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,519
empire thing, Like this guy was so like I'm fucking

1346
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,039
going and if you don't let me, I'm gonna shove

1347
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:20,280
this gun down your throat. It's like, what was he

1348
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,880
supposed to do? It's not like he I just felt

1349
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,000
like they should have made the rookie guy do something

1350
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,639
even more careless that would kill her. But we're her

1351
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,079
to get this whole speech like you're not half the

1352
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,280
man the woman she was and she was a legend

1353
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,880
and you're nothing, And I was like, he doesn't desert,

1354
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,679
Like it just didn't feel warranted. I felt like that

1355
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,360
whole heisting up until that point I was enjoying. But

1356
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,280
that to me was a, like I said, an actual

1357
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,119
point of the show where I could see, eh, I

1358
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:45,440
might not be able to give us a full ten

1359
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,199
because I thought that was really just like it felt

1360
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,639
more like the other Disney Plus stuff where we I

1361
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,559
roll and go okay, like we had to do this

1362
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,880
to get there, and just it didn't work. And I,

1363
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,239
you know, I liked their chemistry, great scene, that was

1364
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,760
fun to have them finally admit how they're feeling, but

1365
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,239
very very awkward set up with suspenders guy and the

1366
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,119
heist and everything. So that's my big, my only negative

1367
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:08,639
so far this season that I really would put in

1368
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:11,000
that call up of like, oh yeah, this was not

1369
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:11,639
the greatest.

1370
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:14,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I I

1371
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,599
feel like I was just so confused on like everything

1372
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:18,599
that was going on in that sequence because it was

1373
01:01:18,719 --> 01:01:21,960
just I I was trying to like figure out if

1374
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,559
it was like like it was an actual plan or

1375
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:28,400
if it was a fake planned to trip up the

1376
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,760
people that know about the fake plan that actually is

1377
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,360
a real pl Like it just seemed like there's so

1378
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,480
many layers to it that it's I was kind of

1379
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:37,480
just waiting to see what happened, and then it was

1380
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:41,760
just really messy, like actual substance to it, like what

1381
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,920
you just laid out where this.

1382
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,679
Speaker 3: Is just random guy who like, why the fuck is

1383
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:46,119
even here?

1384
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: It looking like fucking Mario in my opinion, Jackmarer, just

1385
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400
like he's looking like trying to fuck us. Why is

1386
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,079
here any Why is he so like I'm gonna follow

1387
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:55,559
what's going on? It's like, what the.

1388
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: He's so like determined to figure out what's going Like

1389
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,159
you gets right that guy's face, he's.

1390
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I clicked it at the same time.

1391
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: For the audio listeners, we have a clip of James

1392
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,719
Franco slapping too mcguard insperiment too. They clicked it both

1393
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:11,440
at the same time.

1394
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:12,119
Speaker 2: So give it.

1395
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: Give us full click, someone, give us full.

1396
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:18,519
Speaker 2: My heads are off. Hi, isn't that right?

1397
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 3: Brother?

1398
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,519
Speaker 1: And that was Mario. Yeah, he's like gonna fucking shoot me, brother,

1399
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,679
Like when he said he's gonna shot the gun down

1400
01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:31,880
his throat. It's like it feels like this issue you're

1401
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,320
having about something like did you get try cheating on

1402
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,599
you or something you put It felt like he just

1403
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:39,239
went out and he was like I'm gonna fuck some

1404
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,599
people up tonight and he got and then when that

1405
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:45,400
girl said, he's like, I'll get you. We'll get you

1406
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,119
to your spot and.

1407
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: Got out of his system.

1408
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,719
Speaker 1: He's like completely normal guy. And it's like is he

1409
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,519
is he hidding some drum? Is he perk?

1410
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:53,039
Speaker 2: Mario?

1411
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,679
Speaker 1: Is he on some roid? Rage? Like it was so weird,

1412
01:02:56,719 --> 01:02:58,920
like that needs another scene or two, you know.

1413
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: Just strange too, because I could have sworn that that

1414
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,079
guy was like with them, like he was like with

1415
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,119
he was so when he just shows up at the

1416
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:06,840
end and.

1417
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,719
Speaker 1: He shows up and he questioned him like, hey, what

1418
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:11,440
are you guys doing because they say guns are stillings,

1419
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,199
Like what are you guys doing? But he jumped from

1420
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,719
he felt like he was someone opposed them, like, oh,

1421
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,239
like what the fuck are you guys doing that? I

1422
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,239
caught you doing something bad? But yeah, it felt like

1423
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,920
in the midds. That's why I was gonna ask you.

1424
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:23,599
Just felt like he was with them, So I was

1425
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:25,840
very confused when all this was going down.

1426
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,039
Speaker 3: He was definitely with them. And then when Val comes

1427
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:29,719
back because she went to look for another girl, It's like,

1428
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,440
you know what happened? I'm sure Roy and Mario was like,

1429
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,280
oh it was him. It was that young boy over there.

1430
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: He left. He was he dropped the dead body off

1431
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,119
and he pieced the fuck out. I thought he's gonna

1432
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:40,880
be that truck with him. No, he just let the

1433
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,239
young guy, who, like I said, I don't think deserves

1434
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,199
all the blame for this situation, just get showed out

1435
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,280
and he's like, I'm gonna go make some mushrooms. Like

1436
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:51,320
he just he left. It was like and he just

1437
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,880
went back like, oh honey, he wouldn't believe the night

1438
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,440
I just had, Like just he didn't feel like he's

1439
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,599
no remorse, like he felt like he's a bystander that

1440
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:01,039
saw someone gout shown like oh man, like, no, dude,

1441
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:03,760
this is you caused this. You killed her more than

1442
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,480
a young guy. You fucking killed this lady. But he

1443
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:09,800
got off Scott free Mario. So weird, weird.

1444
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: Story was very weird, and it just felt below like

1445
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,039
the quality of the show for everything that we've seen

1446
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:19,480
in the first two seasons. So yeah, I was. I

1447
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:21,400
was just unsure on how I felt because it was

1448
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,320
just so much stuff going on. I couldn't believe that

1449
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,360
they killed off Scinta that way. It's just so like

1450
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,960
I get it. You know, you could have a very heroic,

1451
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,039
badass character just die in a very like simple way.

1452
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:37,239
I don't think that's like what makes it bad. It's

1453
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,840
just like compiling on everything that we just laid out,

1454
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,519
like Mario and this fucking simp guy that you know

1455
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:47,840
that's that's Vow's words, not mine. Yeah, but like that's

1456
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,360
what killed this characters was like just this bad ass

1457
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,320
it's like one of Lutheran's like big General or not,

1458
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:54,880
whatever the fucker role might be.

1459
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just got random, yeah exactly.

1460
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: The shot went off, I'm like, for fox sakes, that's

1461
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,800
gonna be Senta, and then it went to her like

1462
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:04,440
that's what.

1463
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:06,599
Speaker 1: They finally made love. You knew it was over once

1464
01:05:06,599 --> 01:05:08,480
they made love. I was like, oh, one of them's dying,

1465
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:09,079
and it's.

1466
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,679
Speaker 2: Like what you said, So it's like, oh, this is

1467
01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:13,559
like bad Mando stuff. It's just like, man, like, this

1468
01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:16,559
is not like I thought we were past all of this. Uh,

1469
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:21,039
so that was unfortunate. I really didn't like, I didn't

1470
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:24,039
feel that like perturbed by it until now, I think

1471
01:05:24,039 --> 01:05:25,679
because I'm just stewing on it a little bit more

1472
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:27,440
because in the moment, I was just confused. I was

1473
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,280
just confused. I was like, that is just so weird.

1474
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,079
I don't fully knew what was going on, and.

1475
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: We're probably never gonna see Mario ever again.

1476
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: Probably he came like sucking grosso or whatever, like Brasso

1477
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:42,880
not grosso.

1478
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: So he doesn't for some reason. That shopkeeper that bix

1479
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:49,559
and and or go see also looked like brass hoel,

1480
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,519
but he's like, oh this is you want a year

1481
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:51,960
old one?

1482
01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: Like I see his face everywhere.

1483
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: It was like his brass, So like did he like

1484
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,679
fake his death and he's here like multiple times he

1485
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:58,639
get popping up.

1486
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:03,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so I think that was just something

1487
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:05,719
that Yeah, the more I just do on it, the

1488
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:08,519
more upset I get about it. And then the other thing,

1489
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:10,679
you know, we're kind of already talked about him, but

1490
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,400
just Cyril's who whole uh what he knows and what

1491
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,599
he doesn't know and what what like he might know

1492
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:19,400
that is not revealed to the viewer. Right now, I

1493
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,960
feel like I'm a little bit unsure on what's going

1494
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,599
on there because I I don't know. I just I

1495
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:28,199
have this feeling that he knows more than what's being shown,

1496
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,519
do you But maybe that's just a false false because

1497
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:36,360
because like he is so blinded by his loyalty. Maybe yeah,

1498
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,440
that like he wouldn't even like you see, I think

1499
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:42,159
ped do something in front of him and he just

1500
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:44,599
will ignore it because he's just so blind by it.

1501
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:46,519
But I think it was just mostly how some of

1502
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:49,400
those sequences went through, like by just it seemed like

1503
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,800
it was, huh, I'm onto something. But maybe I'm reading

1504
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,360
into it too much.

1505
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's honest uff. But whatever DDRE and

1506
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:58,440
Party Pax was talking about. I don't think he knows

1507
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,280
that I forgot what his real name is, but that

1508
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,119
would be that would be quite a twist if he

1509
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,360
actually did know, along with the fuck they're talking about.

1510
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,760
And he like double cons Dedrin like, oh, I knew

1511
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,280
you're gonna kick me into the curb, Like.

1512
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,559
Speaker 2: Nah, I just as you're standing next to the.

1513
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: With Mario, because he was watching the monoculars right away,

1514
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,719
He's like, I'm gonna recruit that fucking guy. Look, he's massive.

1515
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:34,320
He killed that lady with one shot accidentally. Uh. And

1516
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,880
then the only thing we haven't touched on so far

1517
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,719
yet is saga. Not too much in here, but you know,

1518
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,719
anytime forrest whiggers in here, they gotta get his ass

1519
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:43,880
to make some big ass speech, which is always good.

1520
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:49,320
He is, he's great, you fool the wild in your

1521
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,559
broth in your eyes.

1522
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,519
Speaker 3: Just this gasoline and hail it.

1523
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,159
Speaker 1: Dead when the Republic comes, fuck help me. But yeah,

1524
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,159
just pretty much showing how someone gets radicalized because that's

1525
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:04,760
what he does, right. Is this guy is we've seen

1526
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,599
him before, but he's there just drop something off, but

1527
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,760
he's held against his will. He has all these other

1528
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,199
particulars want to get back to these people, but he's

1529
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:13,400
like it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome thing where he's

1530
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,760
holding him against his will. And then he's given this

1531
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,119
big speech and like, dude, you know, join me. We're like,

1532
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:20,880
he gives him this big, raw, raw thing. So you

1533
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,279
just saw how Saw can get into and I like

1534
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:24,960
all this. I'm having fun the voice, but I actually

1535
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,520
think this was all good because I think it shows

1536
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,399
like how Saw again has his methods right, and it's

1537
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,520
almost like this guy gets scared into being no choice

1538
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,880
but helping Saw, but Saw kind of makes him retroactively

1539
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,039
think it's his idea right by saying, like, you choose

1540
01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:39,960
to be a warrior, So it's it's pretty fucked up

1541
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:41,560
in a man Like I said, I still think he

1542
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,640
is more fucked up than Lutheran because he's just because

1543
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,600
I didn't know who was gonna get shot. Really at

1544
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,359
that point when he's like, oh, you've trained him everything,

1545
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,439
you know, I could literally see saw girl shooting this

1546
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,640
fucking guy right now, and it's like he's way overboard

1547
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,920
as far as the mission goes right. And he's even

1548
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,640
like he's on a suicide mission because he said like, oh,

1549
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,000
we'll be long dead but before the Republic gets back.

1550
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:04,520
So it's like I get what he's saying of like, oh,

1551
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,119
our you know, our sacrifices will mean something. But at

1552
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:09,159
the same time, it just seems like he's ready to

1553
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:11,720
go and he and that's I guess liberating as well

1554
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,039
because it makes you maybe do things that you wouldn't before.

1555
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:17,680
But yeah, great speech, great moment, and like that was.

1556
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,560
You would watch that scene if you didn't know the

1557
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,600
history of Saguara and he didn't know what he's fighting for,

1558
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,479
you would think he's probably on the bad guy side.

1559
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,279
The way he speaks, the way he does things with people,

1560
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,359
the way just he looks at them. It's just he

1561
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,840
is not a good, pleasant fellow, which is funny because,

1562
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,159
like we said, just look in those eyes. Yeah, and

1563
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:39,119
to me, it's like that's what makes me interested to

1564
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:41,359
watch Rogue one because Rogue one I feel like because

1565
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,439
I didn't watch the anime, but even the animation, he

1566
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,600
never feels as bad as you.

1567
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: No, he was in Rebels and he was still kind

1568
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,119
of like whatever you said the animation, But.

1569
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: I said, I hadn't seen the animation when I saw

1570
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,239
Rogue one, but I'm saying like, even in the animation,

1571
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,760
he's like a radical, but like it always be like,

1572
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,000
oh he does things a little more not by the books.

1573
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:02,920
This is like this guy's fucking crazy. And that's where

1574
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,119
like in ROGUEE, I feel like he's pretty much well

1575
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:07,840
you say, like he feels like he's kooky, but he's

1576
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,359
still like, oh he's a hero. Now. Watching this scene

1577
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:12,239
and going to Rogue one, I was like, I'm not

1578
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:14,880
gonna feel the same way about Sogrel as I had before.

1579
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,680
So yeah, Forced Girl always fun and uh, it interesting

1580
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,399
to see what they get up to with this fucking

1581
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,439
bomb and what what other things are gonna have people

1582
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,560
breathe in and everything.

1583
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I I don't know what happened here,

1584
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,840
but I definitely miss some details on just what this

1585
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:35,479
whole fucking thing was. So it was a bomb or

1586
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,560
it was like an activator for a bomb.

1587
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,159
Speaker 3: Or Ridonium is a type of it's it's very very

1588
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,119
potent starship fuel, and so what they have was basically,

1589
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:56,000
oh yeah, for sure. Do you remember in Mando season two,

1590
01:10:56,399 --> 01:11:00,840
I think when Bill Burke came back and was off

1591
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,399
to the side and Bilburr is in there, and Bilber

1592
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,159
had that amazing like PTSD moment at the coffee table

1593
01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:08,479
with the Imperial officer and he was like, it just

1594
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,880
ends up shooting him, and Mando took his helmet off

1595
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,760
in that episode. So when they were moving those fuel

1596
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,720
cells or whatever that transport in that cargo tanker, that

1597
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,720
was the Ridoniana.

1598
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, just what how they were describing it.

1599
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,199
I didn't know if it was like a fucking whatever

1600
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:27,119
it was, it was, it was a drug, it was uh,

1601
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,960
I don't I don't know what it was. And I

1602
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:31,760
think I was just a little bit confused on what

1603
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,239
the mission was because there's variance for like the device.

1604
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,840
I guess that the act I don't know. I I

1605
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,680
think I was just trying to like focus too much

1606
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,920
on the details. I probably should have just rewound it

1607
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:46,119
and rewatch the sequence, but I'm like, I'm sure they'll

1608
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:47,399
I'm sure they'll cover it. And then it gets to

1609
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,960
the end they just take it off their mask and

1610
01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:51,880
just Forrest Whitaker is going all off with his monologue,

1611
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,880
and I'm just like, man, this is crazy. What's going

1612
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,119
on here? Mister Willhelm was that his name? It was

1613
01:11:57,119 --> 01:12:04,880
something close to that, with will Dam or something like that, Willman, Willman, Wilman.

1614
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,119
I just remember saw gives like he just says his

1615
01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:11,439
name in a funny way to maybe chuckle. But yeah, no,

1616
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,199
I I really loved all of the just just kind

1617
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:17,880
of his perspective, like it is extreme, but it's not

1618
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:25,399
wrong really, Like yeah, exactly so. And like he killed

1619
01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:28,439
the imperial spy, which is probably an important thing to do, right,

1620
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Like the guy was beaconing towards the empire.

1621
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was That's what I was gonna say. I

1622
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,000
don't know if I'll forget that answer. There was part

1623
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:39,560
of me that wondered if he was not a spy

1624
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,399
and saw just.

1625
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: Like a beacon thing that he picked up, so that.

1626
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:49,319
Speaker 3: No, in retrospect, and in retrospect, I can believe it

1627
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:51,239
because you can look back at how he was asking

1628
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:53,479
questions and when he was one on one with Wilman,

1629
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,439
he's like, so yeah, he gashed it very casually, like

1630
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,760
and who trained you? And he's like, oh, sorry, I'll

1631
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,720
stop asking questions.

1632
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,239
Speaker 1: So I agree with that, But Tarr, would you not

1633
01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:05,199
agree if I said, Hey, if they had to dedicate

1634
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:07,760
the deadonate this bond bomb, they have a guy that

1635
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,720
they've trained and he's iffy, where they have a guy

1636
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,439
that they've trained that's perfect, that Saw would do some

1637
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,079
trickery to keep the perfect guy there. That's what it's like.

1638
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:16,760
That to me is not out of the realm possibility

1639
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,039
for like, ah, we're just gonna frame this guy, kill him,

1640
01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:21,560
and then this guy has to stay. Where before it'd

1641
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,039
be like, oh, well I've trained him, why you keep

1642
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:25,119
me against my will? This is like, oh, I have

1643
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:26,560
to get this guy as a spot. Like to me,

1644
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,039
that's not out of the round possibility for something Saw

1645
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:32,000
would do. He would go that far to make sure,

1646
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:34,520
like I'm gonna make sure this guy that can do

1647
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,399
the bomb is gonna do it. You know, you're probably right,

1648
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,319
but I.

1649
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:41,079
Speaker 3: Was like why not just make the guy just like okay,

1650
01:13:41,079 --> 01:13:42,399
well you know you can't do it, just be a

1651
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,079
soldier and fight and then we'll keep the bomb guy here.

1652
01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:48,760
Why even have the guy, Like why train the person

1653
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:49,560
to begin with?

1654
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: Well, because they want him to go. So the thing

1655
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:54,319
is like this thing has to happen the next day, right,

1656
01:13:54,399 --> 01:13:55,760
So it's like, well, if you shoot him, it's like,

1657
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,319
well I have no one else, so you have to stay,

1658
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:57,880
you know.

1659
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: And that's why if that didn't even matter, they didn't

1660
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,439
need to can convince him like oh we don't have

1661
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,199
anyone now, so you have to stay. It was more like, hey,

1662
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,880
you're gonna stay against your will, we'll just have a

1663
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,439
bed for you.

1664
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,359
Speaker 1: It is, but I think at least with that guy dead,

1665
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:13,039
it's a little more With him, he buys into it

1666
01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:14,840
a bit of like okay, I'm the only one that

1667
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,479
can do this, where if the other guy's just like

1668
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,039
around and a soldier, it might be like, hey, why

1669
01:14:19,079 --> 01:14:20,439
why can't I just train the guy for a couple

1670
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,800
more hours? But you're probably right. I do think he

1671
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,399
was a spy, But it did creep my mind of like, oh, man,

1672
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,680
like you know, I could not trust Sogro. That's definitely

1673
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,119
the boss I'm not picking of, Like I don't want

1674
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:33,520
to be on that camp because who knows what's going on.

1675
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,960
But uh, and I love those little like alien people

1676
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,479
he has with I can't remember what type of tubes. Yeah,

1677
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,920
because that's in the Star Wars zero game. That's the

1678
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,520
Jedi in the in the the strategy game. So I'm

1679
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,800
excited to play as them.

1680
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.

1681
01:14:49,079 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, everything was saw was great, And he's just

1682
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,880
I think he's a piece of shit. You know, he's

1683
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,399
a he's a radical, uh rebel, but yeah, he's just

1684
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,319
ever since what he pulled, his stunt that he pulled

1685
01:15:02,319 --> 01:15:04,199
in in the Bad Batch, I just I hate him.

1686
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:08,039
He's he's an asshole and he does just his willingness

1687
01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:12,279
to sacrifice other rebels and just people for the cause

1688
01:15:12,319 --> 01:15:15,840
and what his objectives are. I mean, yeah, he calls

1689
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,000
it the greater good. He's just obsessed with killing the

1690
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:21,199
Empire at this point. It's just yeah, that's a whole

1691
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:24,199
bunch of craziness, and but it made it make it

1692
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:27,319
makes for a compelling interesting character, that's for sure. And

1693
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:29,239
it's neat to see him where he's kind of got

1694
01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:32,000
all his bits and pieces, So between now and Rogue

1695
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,279
one he loses a lot more like his legs and

1696
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:38,439
his other arm and all that. And he'sswilled done. He

1697
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,880
has got his breather, which now we know and Rogue

1698
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:48,640
one all jud in Rogue one, that fucking breather he's

1699
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:57,960
got is probably just pure ghastly and he's inhaling. I

1700
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,800
can't even picture, like the actual scene now and Roe one.

1701
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:07,279
Speaker 1: I've lost everything. I've lost my eggs, I lost my bis.

1702
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:14,079
What will you lose? I hope not that fuck he

1703
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:18,880
would be the guy I would just freely admit, like Empire.

1704
01:16:21,159 --> 01:16:25,279
But that's what I'm really good for, A great of good.

1705
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,399
I'm less.

1706
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,520
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, someone pick up the tor chair.

1707
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: Sally For he called them to tubes. I'm zero tubes though,

1708
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,880
sally For. I think I have nothing else on the

1709
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,600
episode and left for the end. So if you got.

1710
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:53,039
Speaker 2: Who attendant heart, I think that's how you say his name.

1711
01:16:53,079 --> 01:16:57,399
He was conversing with Lonnie. I think he was like

1712
01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:02,079
the undercover guy. So they kind of got like somewhat

1713
01:17:02,119 --> 01:17:04,119
singled out in the meeting, like in a good way.

1714
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,520
I don't know he did something just basically said, we

1715
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,640
have too many prisoners. We don't just start executing them.

1716
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,720
I don't know. Again, another scene that I was a

1717
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,439
little bit confused on. I must have been dozed off

1718
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,079
or something. I don't know what happened here, but it

1719
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:19,039
just seemed like Heret and Lonnie were like two peas

1720
01:17:19,159 --> 01:17:21,199
for like a lot of this. Has this been a

1721
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,319
thing like for the last like they're just been kind

1722
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:26,079
of working together, or have we seen any more about

1723
01:17:26,119 --> 01:17:29,960
like that character, like not the undercover guy, Like it

1724
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:32,399
just seems like we're highlighting this character, and it just

1725
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,720
seems like something's gonna happen with him because he's close

1726
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:41,479
to Lonnie. Maybe he's gonna reveal, like find out about Lonnie. Yeah,

1727
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,600
that's true, especially if Lonnie keeps meeting luth I don't

1728
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,880
know where they're meeting, but like they gotta stop having

1729
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:47,520
these meetings.

1730
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, even though Luthen's like, we gotta have them more often,

1731
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,079
because Lonnie says that like I thought you said.

1732
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,079
Speaker 2: Right like every three months.

1733
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought he's like, oh, I thought the less

1734
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,880
we meet the better, and he's well, things have changed,

1735
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,640
so I don't remember that character. But also they throw

1736
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,199
a lot of characters in there, and I did not

1737
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,359
watch rewatch season one, And there's even stuff in the

1738
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:07,880
recaps that like they didn't talk about, like mon Mafma's

1739
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,319
cousins really showed that lady right, Like there's some so

1740
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,199
I don't have the recolition. If so, I don't think

1741
01:18:12,199 --> 01:18:13,680
it's been anything as big, but I think you're right

1742
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,960
that could play into he trips up, he finds out

1743
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,920
about Lonnie, and that's how they find outbout Luth and

1744
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,680
that could be the kind of the key to taking

1745
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,800
Luthen down. So I think that will play into it.

1746
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,840
And uh uh yeah, I like their den dynamics so far.

1747
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,199
Just gonna little shitsters, so little shitsters.

1748
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. And then I did think we were going

1749
01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:37,680
to see the daughter uh here, which I was looking

1750
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,720
forward to because I just it's only been a year,

1751
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,720
so it's like maybe I wouldn't expect that much difference,

1752
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,960
but I don't know, I just kind of wanted to

1753
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,399
see this this lady now that's like super ingrained with

1754
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,800
the uh I can't remember his name, but like the

1755
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:54,319
crime Lord's just I don't even know what her role

1756
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,720
is like the daughter like because her mom's like an

1757
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,600
elected official, right, is that how they get those roles?

1758
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,680
She's a senator or she appointed? Yeah?

1759
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was elected. Yeah, she won. So No,

1760
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,880
I don't think her daughter is anything of yet. I

1761
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,760
think the idea would be to groom them to be

1762
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,640
something more, especially with that other family. But I don't think.

1763
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:19,199
I think right now is just the.

1764
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:21,319
Speaker 2: Stages of because it's not like a high arch, it's

1765
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:23,399
not like a monarchy or anything like that, right, I

1766
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,880
guess just on the other side of the family, they're

1767
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:31,479
just goodillionaires whatever the number would be. Okay, yeah, I know.

1768
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,920
I'm just curious what have an influence maybe they're going

1769
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,399
to have now, especially that she was already showing to

1770
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:41,359
be kind of not aligned with Mon's ideals of just

1771
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,640
you know, not being an evil dirpet.

1772
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: But that's a tough thing. I think we will see

1773
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,880
her again, but I can also just not really seeing

1774
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,560
her that much of Like, ah, she lost her to

1775
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,199
the empire side, right, like that's the sacrifice of that

1776
01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:59,119
it So I don't know, but yeah, I'm I'm if

1777
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:00,640
you on that. We didn't see here so I could

1778
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,840
see I could see just one more appearance and that's

1779
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:03,319
kind of it.

1780
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's the one that kills Luthen.

1781
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Christ.

1782
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,399
Speaker 3: Take a penis, just like sauce.

1783
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,039
Speaker 1: That's so. She is a whole store collection.

1784
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: The collector they call her. Yeah, No, I have nothing else.

1785
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,279
That's that's it. I'll dry it up. Saws undercarriage, Yep.

1786
01:20:23,359 --> 01:20:24,359
Speaker 3: I'm all dried up.

1787
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: It's truck dumb, it's a womb. Anyways, we'll end it there.

1788
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,880
We'll be back next week for episodes uh seven nine.

1789
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,720
We'll see if Song gets to keep his penis. We'll

1790
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,159
see if Luthen gets keep his life. See what and

1791
01:20:41,319 --> 01:20:44,159
ors pretend to be this time? And I proise you

1792
01:20:44,279 --> 01:20:45,039
I'll not be born