Speaker 1: This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the ww Podcast. It is Tuesday,
Speaker 2: August twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, as we are closing
Speaker 2: in on Bash in Berlin, and we will have our
Speaker 2: predictions for you later this week, so look for that.
Speaker 2: But we've got a lot to talk about tonight with
Speaker 2: Monday Night Raw that took place in Providence, one that
Speaker 2: was kind of weird in some respects. Yes, some critiques
Speaker 2: are coming your way, you know this show, but also
Speaker 2: some praise. I think that having Chad Gable in the
Speaker 2: main event of Raw in a one on one match,
Speaker 2: when's the last time that happened? I mean maybe during
Speaker 2: his run with Gunther when he was trying to take
Speaker 2: the IC title and had like three matches in succession
Speaker 2: to try to beat Gunther for the Intercontinental title prior
Speaker 2: to WrestleMania. But Chad Gable in the main event doesn't
Speaker 2: happen too often, and I love it. And yes, of
Speaker 2: course credit to Uncle Howdie too, Bodallas, who continue to
Speaker 2: create some interesting but realistic, grounded based characters that aren't
Speaker 2: out in the ether, ones that are somewhat believable. They're
Speaker 2: all just disturbed. They've all been wronged in some way.
Speaker 2: They do have a mission statement of coming after those
Speaker 2: that believe they have families that are true and pure,
Speaker 2: and that he is there to make sure that you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's taking care of those that are are weak.
Speaker 2: You know, he's taking care or trying to dispose of
Speaker 2: those who are taking advantage of others. Again, let's be
Speaker 2: paraphrasing or interpreting what so far I understands their mission,
Speaker 2: but they at least have constant character development every single week,
Speaker 2: something I think that is definitely needed in this Wyatt
Speaker 2: sixth group that has been received as well as you
Speaker 2: could hope that they've that would be received. And I
Speaker 2: don't know about you, but every time I see Bo Dallas,
Speaker 2: Uncle Howdy, you see Bray Wyatt, his mannerisms, the beard,
Speaker 2: his smile, all of it, it just makes you just
Speaker 2: Missbray that much more. And it's not to say that
Speaker 2: we aren't appreciative of Bo Dallas and the Uncle Howdy
Speaker 2: character because we are, but it also is a constant
Speaker 2: reminder of what we've lost in bray Wyatt. So is
Speaker 2: it taking anything away from the group. No, they are
Speaker 2: doing I'm sure with what Wyndom I e. Bray Wyatt
Speaker 2: would want them to do. Continue on, move on, and
Speaker 2: they are in a way that's also tributary to bray
Speaker 2: And it's as good as you could hope. Really, I
Speaker 2: think that it could be. And there's no hocus pocus.
Speaker 2: If there is, it's minimal. There's none of this teleportation.
Speaker 2: They are human beings that are wrestlers that are based
Speaker 2: in some kind of reality, and I think that is
Speaker 2: a recipe for staying power. And of course Eric Rowan
Speaker 2: seeing Eric Rowan there is still kind of wild that's
Speaker 2: been I mean, how many years has Eric Rowan been
Speaker 2: involved in some form or fashion with the Wide Family
Speaker 2: to the Bludgeon Brothers to just Rowan, to him carrying
Speaker 2: around a giant mechanical spider. I mean, he's gone through
Speaker 2: all iterations, but all have been tied to bray Wyde's group,
Speaker 2: original group, and now he's kind of come full circle
Speaker 2: and it's cool to see Eric Rowan. Of course, Joe
Speaker 2: Gacy is kind of the forgotten one in the group.
Speaker 2: Most of us who have not watched NXT don't know
Speaker 2: who he is. We're only learning who he is through
Speaker 2: this character. Right now, Nicky Cross has kind of been
Speaker 2: the creepy ring girl. Yeah some of you, hopefully most
Speaker 2: of you understand that reference from the movie The Ring
Speaker 2: but anyway or the grudge, same thing in a way.
Speaker 2: So there's still rooms for improvement in character development. But
Speaker 2: there's there are what five members, six members. It's it
Speaker 2: does take time for actual character development to take root
Speaker 2: and to understand who and what everyone is, but it's
Speaker 2: it's been really fun. In The match with Chad Gable
Speaker 2: and Uncle Howdy ended with Chad Gable losing in the
Speaker 2: main event to Uncle Howdy, and I think that was
Speaker 2: the right move. Despite the fact that Chad Gable has
Speaker 2: been one of the most improved stars of the year,
Speaker 2: he continues to just get better. I think there's more
Speaker 2: ahead of him. I hope he eventually wins a singles championship.
Speaker 2: I think he is due for an intercontinental title run.
Speaker 2: I still believe that although with Brown Breaker holding it
Speaker 2: and he's a heel, it's not gonna be anytime soon.
Speaker 2: That Chad Gable gets a chance to challenge for that
Speaker 2: unless he changes brands or I mean, yeah, that's really
Speaker 2: pretty much yet because he's not going to challenge for
Speaker 2: the world title and win yet. But Chad Gable, I'm
Speaker 2: so glad that they have a triple h has given
Speaker 2: him an opportunity to showcase what he can really do
Speaker 2: and give him a constant, a really constant voice and
Speaker 2: a constant presence on the show. And he's helping out
Speaker 2: the Creed brothers as well, who have little to no personality,
Speaker 2: but you know, they can wrestle their asses off and
Speaker 2: it's just been fun. So but think about this. Vince
Speaker 2: McMahon would roll over in his grave if he was
Speaker 2: in it yet. But but you know, you keep hearing
Speaker 2: reports at Vince's hell is declining and then it's not
Speaker 2: and all that. But I mean, who knows if Vince
Speaker 2: was in his grave, he would maybe he can like
Speaker 2: pre roll over in his grave. He's not even there yet,
Speaker 2: but if he was there, he would absolutely lose his mind.
Speaker 2: If you had Bo Dallas versus Chad Gable and the
Speaker 2: main event of Raw, imagine proposing that to Vince McMahon
Speaker 2: right now. If Vince McMahon. You say, hey, Vince, you're
Speaker 2: back in charge of RAW. But by the way, we're
Speaker 2: gonna do the Raw made event. It's gonna be Bo Dallas. Yes,
Speaker 2: uncle howdy character, but it's Bo Dallas versus Chad Gable.
Speaker 2: What do you think, pal, I mean imagine Vince's yeah,
Speaker 2: you're ribbon me, you know. So it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: And when I saw that as the main event, I'm like,
Speaker 2: really in a almost knee jerk disappointment kind of reaction,
Speaker 2: but then also understanding that you need to build new stars.
Speaker 2: You can only do that by presenting them in big
Speaker 2: spots anyway. So that was the main eventor RAW, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was fine. The continual VHS tapes I
Speaker 2: think are effective. I would still tone down a little
Speaker 2: bit of the kind of the hyperbole or the need
Speaker 2: to decode some things and talk a little bit more
Speaker 2: in plain language. I don't need it being spoken to
Speaker 2: me like I'm in third grade. But also don't speak
Speaker 2: to me with a riddle wrapped in a riddle wrapped
Speaker 2: in a Rubik's cube. You know, Like, there's got to
Speaker 2: be a happy medium. It's not nearly as twisted and
Speaker 2: decodable or non decodable. That from what bray Wide gave us,
Speaker 2: But it still does I think need to be simplified
Speaker 2: a bit from the language they use. But some of
Speaker 2: you may enjoy this kind of what did he say?
Speaker 2: Let me dissect every word. I don't have time for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah you may, and you may enjoy all the riddles.
Speaker 2: I just want to get straight to the point. But
Speaker 2: maybe that's my simple mindedness. So anyway, moving on, Randy
Speaker 2: Orton also gave a promo, and you know what, Randy
Speaker 2: Orton gave a weird promo. And I don't understand this promo. Now,
Speaker 2: not to say I don't understand the purpose of him
Speaker 2: giving it. The purpose of him giving it clearly was
Speaker 2: to endear himself to the fans, further, give them appreciation,
Speaker 2: and remind him that he's a world champion. That's kind
Speaker 2: of it. But Randy Orton endearing himself to the fans
Speaker 2: feels sacrilegious when he's talking about it's been each and
Speaker 2: every one of us inside his head that I don't.
Speaker 2: I just inherently reject when a wrestler, I don't care
Speaker 2: who they are, tries to pander to me that I
Speaker 2: get to cheer for myself, because that's really what you're
Speaker 2: cheering for. When the wrestlers, you know, are crediting us
Speaker 2: for things in promos and then the crowd cheers, what
Speaker 2: you're really doing is giving yourself a round of applause.
Speaker 2: It feels icky. Now they don't look at it that way.
Speaker 2: They look at it as giving them thanks. That's, you know,
Speaker 2: that's what retirement speeches are for. That's what Hall of
Speaker 2: fame speeches are for, or if you're in Mark Henry's case,
Speaker 2: a salmon suit swerve, which is still one of the
Speaker 2: greatest swerves of all time. And this very much much
Speaker 2: did feel like a Hall of Fame speech for Randy Orton.
Speaker 2: And he's never been one to give great, great promos.
Speaker 2: He's averaged to very good most of the time, but
Speaker 2: he's never been one to give long, lengthy promos. This
Speaker 2: was the longest promo I can remember from Randy Orton,
Speaker 2: and it was weird. I can only describe it as weird.
Speaker 2: It made sense from what he was saying of giving
Speaker 2: us a fifteen time world champion, but then they suddenly
Speaker 2: bring up, conveniently the world championship that they just brought
Speaker 2: back out of nowhere, and he said it was reborn. Well,
Speaker 2: then if it's reborn, which Seth brought back a year
Speaker 2: and a half ago, then is it the same title
Speaker 2: that you want or is it not? I mean maybe
Speaker 2: that's not the point, but I still don't understand when
Speaker 2: they brought it back why they didn't try to piggyback
Speaker 2: off the lineage of the previous belt. I don't care
Speaker 2: if they change the look of the belt. That's fine.
Speaker 2: Belts change all the time in appearance, but the lineage
Speaker 2: should remain. That's what gives the belt its value. Who
Speaker 2: holds it for how long? And what those rains mean
Speaker 2: are how belts accrue their value. That's the only way
Speaker 2: they accrue their value. Actually that and having those who
Speaker 2: are in the company try to chase it. It's a
Speaker 2: simple supply demand. There's less of something it's worth more
Speaker 2: so when Randy Orton's talking about becoming a fifteen time champion, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: that's true, But why does ww Nott sit there and
Speaker 2: go man, I wish we had just kept it as
Speaker 2: pretending that this is the same belt just to repackaged.
Speaker 2: You know, has a different coat of paint, but it
Speaker 2: does have the same lineage that carried from when Triple
Speaker 2: H absorbed it from WCW. Punker T brought it in
Speaker 2: The Rock won the WCW Championship, which became the World Championship.
Speaker 2: Triple H then won it infamously. When I when I
Speaker 2: see that big gold belt, I think of Triple H
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands when he was part of Evolution.
Speaker 2: That's how I view that belt. Yes, Goldberg held it,
Speaker 2: we had others hold it. There's a long line. Even
Speaker 2: Kine held it at one point. But why are we
Speaker 2: killing that belt dead? If you resurrected it's I'm not gonna,
Speaker 2: I guess beat a dead horse here. But Randy Orton
Speaker 2: talks about that, talks about, you know, what his career
Speaker 2: has been, and bringing up the demons of his career,
Speaker 2: all this which is felt very hall of famish. However,
Speaker 2: we did not have an appearance from Gunther in this promo.
Speaker 2: It was really to just have the fans get a
Speaker 2: chance to I guess pat Randy Orton on the back
Speaker 2: and vice versa. Fine. He also acknowledged how fans are
Speaker 2: now singing his music, which he was thankful for. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. That's the cool thing to do now. Really,
Speaker 2: it's just because of the music of Cody Rhoads and
Speaker 2: Sammy's Ain in some respect, among others. The sing along
Speaker 2: songs are a staple of a lot of the baby
Speaker 2: faces right now, and Randy Orton had a song all
Speaker 2: along that we could sing to and the fans are
Speaker 2: just now realizing it, which Randy Orton did allude to.
Speaker 2: So here here's a question though, for you guys. I
Speaker 2: know Cody Rhodes wasn't un raw, but do you think
Speaker 2: that if Cody Rhodes didn't have his music would he
Speaker 2: be as popular as he is right now? I don't
Speaker 2: know that music is a lot of what made him successful. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I know he is his own talent. He is very
Speaker 2: good in the ring, decent on the mic, all that,
Speaker 2: But I just I wonder how much of it is
Speaker 2: attributable to his music, not going on Cody Roads rant
Speaker 2: all right, that may be saved for later. For now, though,
Speaker 2: I just it's a genuine question. I don't know, we
Speaker 2: don't know, but it definitely is part of his success
Speaker 2: in a significant way. I just don't know what that
Speaker 2: number is. How do you quantify it?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Moving on in myn a net raw. So where do
Speaker 2: we start. Let me start with well, Sid Vicious. There
Speaker 2: was a memorial graphic for Sid Vicious, who died earlier
Speaker 2: in the day at age sixty three, and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's sad. I mean, I wasn't a fan when Sid
Speaker 2: Vicious was Psycho Sid was actually still competing, or if
Speaker 2: he did, he was he was. Yeah. Again, I came
Speaker 2: into nineteen ninety seven and it wasn't a time in
Speaker 2: which Psycho Sid was really at the top of his game.
Speaker 2: He was on his way out at that point. So
Speaker 2: I don't really remember watching Psycho Sid as a kid.
Speaker 2: Many of you who are older than me or have
Speaker 2: been watching longer than me, have fond memories of Sid,
Speaker 2: or maybe not fond, but some memory of Psycho Sid.
Speaker 2: Say Vicious and Michael Cole spoke while clips of bron
Speaker 2: Breaker and his dog. Yeah God, American Maid bron Strowman
Speaker 2: brons Reid are arriving earlier in the day. Keep the
Speaker 2: effing dogs off TV? Why? Ring announcer Samantha irv introduced
Speaker 2: the judgment day and Corey Graves was on commentary. Pat
Speaker 2: mcafe's gone for football season and we had, of course
Speaker 2: of course, we had some to deliver the welcome to
Speaker 2: Anette Raw and all rise for the judgment day from
Speaker 2: liv Morgan. I mean, no one's immune to this crap,
Speaker 2: you know. I do wonder if they don't announce it.
Speaker 2: It's the beginning of the show. Are we gonna not
Speaker 2: know what show we're at? I don't know? Moving on,
Speaker 2: so we got Carlitle said the video was cool. They
Speaker 2: had a video package that recapped their attack on Damien
Speaker 2: and Rhea from last week's show. Dom took the mic
Speaker 2: to speak. People were just all over him. Carlito barked
Speaker 2: at the crowd in Spanish, and then Dom did the
Speaker 2: same thing, and Dom spoke in English while saying that
Speaker 2: Morgan does things for him that Ripley never did, such
Speaker 2: as helping him beat his deadbeat dad. And Dom said
Speaker 2: he was entering the tournament for a shot at the
Speaker 2: Intercontinental title and had Morgan's full support. And that's when
Speaker 2: Raymond Sterio comes out with Dragon, Lee, Walking Wild and
Speaker 2: Cruise del Toro. They came in the ring. Ray asked
Speaker 2: Dom if he's looked in the mirror lately and labeled
Speaker 2: him a lost soul. Ray said someone needs to put
Speaker 2: Dom in his place, and Dom said it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: Ray because he already beat him. Ray said, Dom has
Speaker 2: always been a jackass and now is an even bigger
Speaker 2: jackass that he's hanging out with Morgan Boy. Ray is
Speaker 2: just batted insults. Ray is just he's such a like
Speaker 2: a he's a family friendly baby face. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen Ray Masterio, no matter how
Speaker 2: far he's pushed, do anything insane, like insanely violent. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. No, do you remember the eye
Speaker 2: for an eye match with Seth Rollins during the pandemic? Seth,
Speaker 2: I mean Seth Rollinds won that match. He like apparently
Speaker 2: pulled the eye out of stereo and then he threw up.
Speaker 2: Remember that, Oh the good old pandemic days. But we
Speaker 2: had Ray dare Dom to hit him and said he'd
Speaker 2: love to slap the stupid mustache off his face, and
Speaker 2: so McDonald then went for the cheap shot. Judgment Day
Speaker 2: members were quick to be cleared from the ring, and
Speaker 2: then we got the Judgment Day versus Ray, Dragon Ly
Speaker 2: Jacking Wild and Crystal Troles. So basically the Judgment Day
Speaker 2: the new iteration of it versus the LWO, really fast
Speaker 2: paced match. Fun match went about thirteen minutes with the
Speaker 2: judgment Day ending up beating LWO, with Dom getting the
Speaker 2: pin on Ray. So another victory for Dom that I
Speaker 2: love when he gets victories because you know he's gonna
Speaker 2: milk the hell out of it, especially when it's against
Speaker 2: his dad. So after the match, Morgan jumped on the
Speaker 2: back of Rhear Ripley and this broke down because of
Speaker 2: course the LWO was going to beat down After the match,
Speaker 2: that brought Ripley to the ring and Dom was on
Speaker 2: the top rope, but he got caught. He was in
Speaker 2: the middle of the ring. Ripley was on the other side,
Speaker 2: and Ripley got caught as I said, and Priest and
Speaker 2: Ripley put McDonough and Carlyle down with clothes lines after
Speaker 2: they tried to escape the ringside, and Priest and Ripley
Speaker 2: hit their finishes simultaneously on McDonough and Carlito. There's a
Speaker 2: lot happening here, no doubt. I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: this is kind of a it's a good storyline, one
Speaker 2: that we understand. There's a main thread of Ripley looking
Speaker 2: just to get revenge on his her ex and his
Speaker 2: current lover. We understand that, we understand the deadbeat dad
Speaker 2: with Ray and Dom. We understand the rift between Priest
Speaker 2: and Finn Balor that it was. If you've remember, they
Speaker 2: need to, by the way, remind us of this a
Speaker 2: little bit more. That Finn Balor is the one that
Speaker 2: screwed Damien Priest out of the world title. That's a
Speaker 2: point that I think is being overlooked here because that's important.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not all Ripley and Dom and Rhea.
Speaker 2: It's all fun and that's been the main thread, but
Speaker 2: a very close second is Finn and Damien, you know,
Speaker 2: so I want that to be more highlighted and emphasized
Speaker 2: instead of the love triangle. But yeah, a little bit
Speaker 2: of self self motivation here can easily get you pumped
Speaker 2: up for this match. But here's the one thing. Let's,
Speaker 2: as a collective team here on the podcast, let's do
Speaker 2: an over under on how many bumps Rhea Ripley will
Speaker 2: take from a male opponent, whether it's in the mixed
Speaker 2: tag match here, whether it's even in a run, in
Speaker 2: any kind of altercation. Let's see how many bumps Rhea
Speaker 2: Ripley takes. Because I'm gonna guess it's three or less
Speaker 2: and there will be no punches thrown, absolutely no punches.
Speaker 2: You might get a suplex, some super safe quote unquote
Speaker 2: wrestling move that won't set the world a blaze today
Speaker 2: that ww is promoting domestic violence, because you know somebody
Speaker 2: will these days. But I'm gonna say three is the
Speaker 2: over under what would you take over or under on
Speaker 2: the number of moves Ray Ripley will take from a
Speaker 2: male opponent over the whole course of this weekend? All right,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say forever or until this story line's over,
Speaker 2: but it may actually be zero. I mean, I could
Speaker 2: see where a scenario where it's zero, And yes, I'm
Speaker 2: making this a big deal because it's ridiculous, it's absolutely
Speaker 2: asini and that you have Raya Ripley putting down these
Speaker 2: men that I mean, come on, Yeah, sure McDonough's not
Speaker 2: the biggest guy in the world, but let's be real,
Speaker 2: McDonald's still a dude and he in real life. I
Speaker 2: would put my money on and everyone listening to me
Speaker 2: probably would too, that if it was a you know,
Speaker 2: an MMA fighting and an octagon real he would he
Speaker 2: would defeat Ria Ripley pretty soundly, you know. So, I
Speaker 2: know this isn't this isn't MMA, but this is where
Speaker 2: they lose me a little bit. That the women are
Speaker 2: just able to just do whatever they want to the men,
Speaker 2: and the men can't retaliate, and then they're supposed to
Speaker 2: sell for the women like they got hit with a shotgun,
Speaker 2: and it's the same sell that if they got hit
Speaker 2: by a man. It's ridiculous. Yes, Ria Ripley is a
Speaker 2: strong woman physically, sure she is. She might be taller
Speaker 2: than some of the men. But here's here's the kicker.
Speaker 2: She's still a woman. That's just a biological fact. And
Speaker 2: that also means that men are much stronger, much faster
Speaker 2: on the whole. Not a slight against women. I mean
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff women do better than men,
Speaker 2: you know, uh for sure, And so it just comes
Speaker 2: down to physical, physical fitness. Anyway, I'll go down a spiral.
Speaker 2: I'm catching myself. See how I'm stopping myself here, I'll
Speaker 2: stop there. But it's it is, it's gonna get ridiculous
Speaker 2: before it gets better. Yeah, no, wonder she wants to
Speaker 2: work with the men. Rie Ripley was very very adamant
Speaker 2: that she feels like she should be working with men,
Speaker 2: and yeah, she gets to because she doesn't have to
Speaker 2: take any bumps, and they make her look like a
Speaker 2: million bucks, like she's one of the boys, but she ain't.
Speaker 2: I love I like Ria Ripley, I do. I like
Speaker 2: her character, but stop the pain. All right, Let's go
Speaker 2: to the next part here, and we have Eosky and
Speaker 2: Kyrie say versus Shana and Zoe Stark. Seven and a
Speaker 2: half minutes with EO Sky and Kyrie Saye defeatings SHANEA.
Speaker 2: Basler and Zoe Stark. This happened when Selena Vega popped
Speaker 2: out of nowhere at ringside, hit the hill from behind,
Speaker 2: and Cole recalled that PFC took out Vega and injured
Speaker 2: her arm. In the ring, Sky and Sane hit their
Speaker 2: finishes on Star and Saying got the three count. So
Speaker 2: Vega cost them the victory here. So Deville, Basler, and
Speaker 2: Starr continue, even though they have a new faction, continue
Speaker 2: to lose. That's just what they do. Apparently they were
Speaker 2: a faction created to lose so far. Anyway, it's not
Speaker 2: usually how you introduce a new faction. Typically give them
Speaker 2: some kind of hot streak to get them on notice
Speaker 2: and they're being noticed, but for the wrong reasons here
Speaker 2: all right, we got the Uncle Howdie video VHS tape
Speaker 2: that aired, and then Drew McIntyre comes out and said
Speaker 2: he's only competed in one strap match in we he lost,
Speaker 2: and then he mocks the Impunk's opening line about being
Speaker 2: great to be alive on a Monday night and fill
Speaker 2: in the City. McIntyre mocked Punk for boasting about the
Speaker 2: role and the company has been on when he had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it and sat on his assald
Speaker 2: it last eight years, which is you know, it's just true.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I want to find the lies that Drew McIntyre is
Speaker 2: spitting lately, I can't find many. That's the great thing
Speaker 2: about this character is he's telling the truth, but he's
Speaker 2: making you hate him for it. That's a very good
Speaker 2: skill to have as a heel because people don't necessarily
Speaker 2: cheer the truth. They often will cheer the person that's
Speaker 2: speaking rather than what's coming out of their mouth, even
Speaker 2: if it's a lie. They'll cheer the person and instead
Speaker 2: not worry too much about what's coming out of their mouth.
Speaker 2: And this is the case here with drumacintire. I mean,
Speaker 2: he doesn't lie a lot. His character is if anything
Speaker 2: more based in truth about what's going on, then a
Speaker 2: lot of them. It's how he says it. And then
Speaker 2: he of course runs down fans at times, but let's continue.
Speaker 2: He said that he took issue with the fans continuing
Speaker 2: to chant for Punk. He asked that the fans asked
Speaker 2: the fans if they know what an enabler is, and
Speaker 2: then he gave us the definition, and he said it's
Speaker 2: like handing an alcoholic a drink and said the fans
Speaker 2: would have to live with the scars that he will
Speaker 2: leave on Punk's body. And mactyre said, the fans chose
Speaker 2: nostalgia over the warrior who's been there for them even
Speaker 2: in the darkest of times. And I still forgive you
Speaker 2: because he said, quote, you know not what you do.
Speaker 2: He spoke about the damage he would do to Punk
Speaker 2: during their strat match, and he said there will be
Speaker 2: a lot of hurt. I feel like he should have
Speaker 2: said pain. He kept saying there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of hurt. Just small little thing here, of course, that's
Speaker 2: what I do. I felt like he was trying to
Speaker 2: search for the word pain and he couldn't quite find it.
Speaker 2: But very very very very very minute issue here. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to say, because I was thinking it the
Speaker 2: whole time, like, stop saying hurt. You mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: essentially a synonym, but for the context of what you're saying,
Speaker 2: the word pain fits much smooth more smoothly than hurt.
Speaker 2: That's really all I had to say about that. But
Speaker 2: it's true McIntyre was here for us during the darkness
Speaker 2: of times. What are am I referring to remember the pandemic?
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us were alive for that.
Speaker 2: We're old enough all to remember that he was the
Speaker 2: face of the company during that time. He carried the
Speaker 2: company for a better part of eighteen months as champion,
Speaker 2: and he did a hell of a job, starting out
Speaker 2: at WrestleMania thirty six, the one that we never want
Speaker 2: to remember ever again, when he faced brock lesnar beat
Speaker 2: him in the side of an empty warehouse, and from
Speaker 2: there he was the face of the company, going on
Speaker 2: to face Seth Rollins and going on to face Randy Orton,
Speaker 2: among many others, and did an excellent job. So it's
Speaker 2: actually true, and we all are choosing nostalgia because that's
Speaker 2: what punk is right now. He's nostalgia. Not that that's
Speaker 2: all he is, but excuse me, he is a certainly
Speaker 2: that that is a big part of it. We're a generation.
Speaker 2: As a side note, Millennials, specifically my group, we are sick.
Speaker 2: We have an illness. That illness is the need for nostalgia,
Speaker 2: the need to see and feel what we felt in childhood.
Speaker 2: And it's I don't know if it's really something that's
Speaker 2: a detriment to our lives, but if it can be
Speaker 2: very easily, because if you don't live in reality and
Speaker 2: you continue to live in the past, then yeah, you're
Speaker 2: you are going to hurt the present. And absolutely, but
Speaker 2: I think that we are the first generation to really
Speaker 2: really really get overwhelmed with nostalgia. And maybe that's also
Speaker 2: because we're the first generation to really have a lot
Speaker 2: of our lives recorded and you can actually go back
Speaker 2: and see a lot of the things that as child
Speaker 2: children we weren't able to see in the previous generation
Speaker 2: YouTube everything's memorialized and digitalized, whereas those in the you know,
Speaker 2: the generation X before us didn't have that opportunity. So
Speaker 2: perhaps that's what it is, because we do have a
Speaker 2: lot of our childhoods digitalized and not to the level
Speaker 2: of gen zs today. I mean, my god, everything's on
Speaker 2: iPhones and HD. How many times as kids did we
Speaker 2: have that opportunity zero? You know, all the tapes that
Speaker 2: we get to watch as kids are on vhs. They're grainy,
Speaker 2: those crappy, big handheld cam quarders that maybe our parents had.
Speaker 2: You get to see those old videos of yourself. But
Speaker 2: today you talk about sick for nostalgia. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna get worse. I think that this generation right now,
Speaker 2: that when they grow up and they get into the
Speaker 2: thirties and forties and fifties like the millennials are now,
Speaker 2: that they are going to even be more sick with nostalgia.
Speaker 2: Now again, it sounds like it's not a problem, but
Speaker 2: it could be. You know, it could be when everything's memorialized,
Speaker 2: everything is captured, everything's in high deft four K, you know.
Speaker 2: It Also it can be I think painful to watch
Speaker 2: the past too. You know, a lot of times the
Speaker 2: past will live in your head, and that's sometimes the
Speaker 2: best place for it to live, and you don't have actual,
Speaker 2: you know, events on camera, and maybe you don't want
Speaker 2: to relive or see and you know, today, everything is
Speaker 2: my god. If it's not on your phone, it's if
Speaker 2: you post it online, it's there. You know, you can
Speaker 2: delete it, but it never really goes away. So certainly
Speaker 2: good and bad to it. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: more you'll remember in this generation because there's a lot
Speaker 2: more you're capturing with every you know, basically are you
Speaker 2: know the phones in our pockets, which are just high
Speaker 2: def cameras that we capture or carry with us everywhere.
Speaker 2: But it also presents a danger of like mental health
Speaker 2: issues that we're already all experiencing. Right, all right, I'll
Speaker 2: get off my ted talk. Let's go. So we got Punk. Well,
Speaker 2: we had mctire complain how Punk is always attacking him
Speaker 2: from behind, and that's when Punk did that very thing.
Speaker 2: He appeared hit mctire from behind. The baby face hitting
Speaker 2: mcatire from behind. It doesn't make a lot of sense,
Speaker 2: but I guess that's the way we're going. Fans didn't care.
Speaker 2: They fought the ring side. They were whipping each other
Speaker 2: with a leather strap. McIntyre picked up the strap, he
Speaker 2: got back dropped onto the broadcast table, and then Punk
Speaker 2: got a few good shots in with McIntire and then
Speaker 2: security ended up getting whipped around by Punk. He did
Speaker 2: not have a good night, by the way. There's more
Speaker 2: to that later. I mean the security is just like there,
Speaker 2: I mean they are just this just local wrestling talent
Speaker 2: in security shirts. But you know, it's just that they
Speaker 2: had a pretty rough night overall. We had Punk in
Speaker 2: three security guards. As I said, he tossed them out
Speaker 2: of the ring. Punk was pretty intense. He had a
Speaker 2: you know, he was It's interesting when you have Punk
Speaker 2: there and he doesn't actually talk, he's actually doing something physical.
Speaker 2: It's unusual because that's not Punk's thing. But he continues
Speaker 2: to attack McIntyre from behind. So that's it's just an
Speaker 2: interesting little factoid that babyfaces typically don't do that, you know,
Speaker 2: if babyfaces are typically the ones to straight up monoy
Speaker 2: mono go after their opponent. And so all right, let's
Speaker 2: continue and we have let's see Bronze Strowman. Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, We'll get there. J Uso Kofe carrying cross
Speaker 2: and a triple threat for the Intercontinental title. Well shot
Speaker 2: at the Intercontinental title. This match went eight minutes and
Speaker 2: forty five seconds, with ja Uso winning and beating Kofe
Speaker 2: and Cross. Okay, the match had the favorite win. Jay
Speaker 2: Uso was the favorite here, but I could have seen
Speaker 2: in a scenario which Kofe won this one and yet
Speaker 2: Xavier win the next one. That didn't happen. But jay
Speaker 2: Uso is the bigger star here, even though he's poised
Speaker 2: to move over to SmackDown I think in the near
Speaker 2: future to probably the next month or two to be
Speaker 2: able to work with Roman reigns and counter the whole
Speaker 2: New Bloodline versus og bloodline story. So ja Uso, while
Speaker 2: he advances and he goes to the Fatal four Way,
Speaker 2: has even if he wins that he doesn't have almost
Speaker 2: any chance of winning the Innercontent title. Really, whoever wins
Speaker 2: that Fatal four Way, that all of these triple threats
Speaker 2: are qualifying those to enter, it's almost a sure thing
Speaker 2: that that person is not going to win, even if
Speaker 2: it's jay Uso. Crazy though that Jayuso has yet to
Speaker 2: win Singles Gold. It's just wild, all right. We had
Speaker 2: a gun through promo from social media air which was
Speaker 2: not on Hulu. And I know some of you, Oh
Speaker 2: I watch Hulu version. Yeah, well I don't watch the
Speaker 2: Hula version or I'm sorry, I don't watch the full version.
Speaker 2: I watch the highlights from the things that aren't on Hulu.
Speaker 2: This I must have missed with the Gunner promo, but
Speaker 2: Randy Orton was shown walking backstage and Cole hype that
Speaker 2: SmackDown will debut on the USA Network on September thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Cole said he and Graves will be reunited on SmackDown.
Speaker 2: And let's see, we've got Randy Orton coming out. As
Speaker 2: I said, weird, weird promo, but also effective, as I've
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show, growing up in front of fans,
Speaker 2: he signed his contract at age nineteen. He said, the
Speaker 2: fans saw him get humbled over and over and he
Speaker 2: learned from his mistakes. And Orton said he eventually had
Speaker 2: a step from behind the shadows and earn every ounce
Speaker 2: of respect and then of course ended with the three
Speaker 2: most dangerous letters RKO blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, now this particular review, so it was quote a
Speaker 2: well delivered promo, but Orton covered a lot of the
Speaker 2: same ground he's already covered in the past. Although his
Speaker 2: history of the World Championship was a new talking point,
Speaker 2: it just wasn't overall that convincing. I would concur with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's you can deliver a promo really well, even if
Speaker 2: the context of it is repetitive. So I would concur
Speaker 2: with that. I would Bronson Reid braun Strowman. This ended
Speaker 2: in a double count out in about nine minutes. My god, Okay,
Speaker 2: this you know it was a train wreck. And I
Speaker 2: don't mean that in a disparaging way. I mean that
Speaker 2: complimentary because while I'm not a fan, particularly a Bronze Stroman,
Speaker 2: because he's a I think he's a one trick pony.
Speaker 2: His promos are about the same as that. If you've
Speaker 2: seen one Bronzetroman promo, you've seen them all. He's a
Speaker 2: big guy, the s he can do athletic things, and
Speaker 2: today's product, even when you have big men that are
Speaker 2: a combined weight of over seven hundred pounds in the ring,
Speaker 2: they're still trying to do the things that guys who
Speaker 2: are half their weight do because that's apparently the product
Speaker 2: today and they have to try to show us they
Speaker 2: can still do those things, when in fact, I would
Speaker 2: actually prefer that big men wrestle like big men. I mean,
Speaker 2: call me crazy, but yeah, seeing you know, Bronson Reed
Speaker 2: do a suicide dive. Yeah, it's insane, but also why
Speaker 2: just to show us you can. I mean, so I
Speaker 2: just said it was this was a complimentary match, and
Speaker 2: it was. I'll get to the good part, which is
Speaker 2: a lot of it. My point is just generally about
Speaker 2: the big men who feel like they need to do
Speaker 2: the things that men have their size do. And sure
Speaker 2: it's because oh well you don't see big men do
Speaker 2: it like this. Yeah, but there's a reason for that,
Speaker 2: because they don't need to. They shouldn't be. It's nice
Speaker 2: to have a different flavor in my mouth of matches
Speaker 2: where everything is not just suicide dives and you know,
Speaker 2: moon salts and like. Those are all like fun to watch,
Speaker 2: but the product today has become so much more reliant
Speaker 2: on athleticism and less on being a wrestler. Being a
Speaker 2: wrestler doesn't necessarily mean being ultra athletic. Now in the
Speaker 2: amateur sense, in the Olympics, of course. Yeah, like amateur wrestling,
Speaker 2: you need to be athletic, you need to be strong,
Speaker 2: you need to all that, all that that does apply.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to pro wrestling, there's been such
Speaker 2: a swing to the athletic side of things that that's
Speaker 2: what we want to see, and that's the important and
Speaker 2: and desirable attribute is athleticism. You know. That to me
Speaker 2: is it's it's gone too far because now even the
Speaker 2: men who are have no business doing it are just
Speaker 2: doing it for shock value and to show us they
Speaker 2: can still wrestle like everybody else on the roster would. Actually,
Speaker 2: I think it would be better if they didn't, because
Speaker 2: not only is it of course higher risk unnecessarily, but
Speaker 2: also again it's like the same style of wrestling you're
Speaker 2: watching over and over and over and over and over
Speaker 2: when big men have a slower pace. It's nice to
Speaker 2: have a slower pace. Every once in a while power moves.
Speaker 2: It's nice. It's a nice change of pace, but not
Speaker 2: when you know they want to wrestle like you know
Speaker 2: Ricochet did, and you know, hey, but speaking of Ricochet,
Speaker 2: quickly before we move on to hour three here with this,
Speaker 2: I think it was a fun brawl in the parking lot.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen a parking lot brawl in a while. Ricochet,
Speaker 2: let me just say, and I had a little personal
Speaker 2: beef of them on Twitter several months back. He is
Speaker 2: a child on Twitter. Somebody needs to take his phone
Speaker 2: away and put him in time out. You don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Just go look at his feet. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's not with WW anymore, is with all lead? Fine,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad for him, like I mean, sure, he
Speaker 2: for his career. He is getting work and he's getting
Speaker 2: a paycheck. He's a crazy athlete. Yes, But he's attacking
Speaker 2: fans who are critical of him. He is attacking them
Speaker 2: in a way that's attacking how many followers they have.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've got three hundred followers, you only got
Speaker 2: twelve followers whatever? Now that is I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: a public figure and you are now attacking people based
Speaker 2: on the number of followers they have, that's all you've got.
Speaker 2: That's how old? How old is Ricochet? You know? I mean, hey,
Speaker 2: I have done the same thing with people that have
Speaker 2: attacked me. Because it's a low hanging fruit. It's easy
Speaker 2: to hit somebody on that. But I'm also not in
Speaker 2: the public eye. I'm not on national television every week.
Speaker 2: I don't have a company to beholden too. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not somebody that if I do that, I have
Speaker 2: someone come out and say, oh, you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's insulting to fans. No one's going to
Speaker 2: say that to me. If they did, I'd laugh at
Speaker 2: them and then triple down on it. But when you
Speaker 2: are beholden to representing a company and you're attacking the
Speaker 2: fans that are ones, the ones putting the money in
Speaker 2: your pocket, and coming after them as if their worth
Speaker 2: is based on how many followers they have, I mean,
Speaker 2: grow up. Ricochet needs to stay off social media. He
Speaker 2: does he know how it works? Is this this you know?
Speaker 2: Is he new? Did his parents just get him internet access?
Speaker 2: He is a child on social media? I mean he
Speaker 2: just is s You know what I did, of course,
Speaker 2: I mean I can't sit back. What I did is
Speaker 2: I had a burner account that I'll keep anonymous, and
Speaker 2: I have like no followers on there. It's just a
Speaker 2: burner account that I can, you know, hit people with
Speaker 2: whenever I need to without hitting my own account. We
Speaker 2: all have burner accounts, Let's be honest. If you want
Speaker 2: to make one, I highly recommend it. But I hit
Speaker 2: him with the fact that that this is this is
Speaker 2: just true. I said, you know, this is coming from
Speaker 2: a guy who had his girlfriend be more successful in
Speaker 2: w W than he had than you were, and she
Speaker 2: didn't even have to take a bump, you know, something
Speaker 2: to that effect. I said in a more eloquent way.
Speaker 2: I'm just paraphrasing that. You know, look, look who's talking.
Speaker 2: You know your girlfriend didn't take a single bump and
Speaker 2: she was more over than you were in WWE. So yeah,
Speaker 2: but anyway, he just I don't understand it. You know,
Speaker 2: he just is frozen at fourteen years old. You know,
Speaker 2: I guess that's rich coming from someone that just did
Speaker 2: the very thing that you know, I'm accusing him of.
Speaker 2: But I'm just he's a he's a guy that tells
Speaker 2: a higher standard because he's the one in the public
Speaker 2: eye representing a company, a multi multimillion dollar company, not me.
Speaker 2: You know that That's not the position I'm in, that's
Speaker 2: the position he's in. So anyway, and by the way,
Speaker 2: if you're in that position and you get criticism from fans,
Speaker 2: and your ability to absorb criticism is critical to your success,
Speaker 2: because if you get to the public eye and you
Speaker 2: think everyone's going to be complimentary all the time. This
Speaker 2: even goes for people at my level, you know, the
Speaker 2: little peons down to doing podcasting. If you think everybody's
Speaker 2: just going to be all nice all the time and complimentary.
Speaker 2: Then you are in the wrong business. And when you
Speaker 2: get something negative and you have to respond back to
Speaker 2: it and then you just get all bent out of
Speaker 2: shape over it, then you should probably go into a
Speaker 2: different business. Was he not aware that the fact that
Speaker 2: not everyone loves everything he does all the time? What
Speaker 2: just a baby? Alrighty? So anyway, bron Stroman and Bronson
Speaker 2: Reid killed it here, and I literally mean they almost
Speaker 2: killed each other, especially Bronson Reid. Did you guys see
Speaker 2: the bump he took off the car onto the concrete.
Speaker 2: I saw that. I go, oh my god, that's concrete.
Speaker 2: That's not a ring, it's not a worked surface. That
Speaker 2: is straight up sidewalk or pavement whatever he landed on.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I just looked at bron Stroman. I'm like,
Speaker 2: the dude has to have a dislocated shoulder or at
Speaker 2: least an Tusian. I mean, you know something. They beat
Speaker 2: the hell out of each other, and I loved it,
Speaker 2: and I love the tsunami off the little I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was, the little uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He jumped off of a concrete surface on top of
Speaker 2: the car onto bronz Stroman. Bronz A ready walked away
Speaker 2: from it. Brounz Stroman didn't. The car kind of sparked
Speaker 2: and exploded a little, which was kind of a nice effect.
Speaker 2: But it was great. And you know, of course Adam
Speaker 2: Piers is out of his mind as he always is.
Speaker 2: Oh we need medical, we need medical, which took the
Speaker 2: medical team like forever to come out there. There's an ambulance,
Speaker 2: like right next to where they did this spot. Did
Speaker 2: anyone see that there's an ambulance right there? I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it wasn't banned, but like, where were the EMTs?
Speaker 2: Just like why did it take them so long to respond?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so funny watching Adam Pierce scream
Speaker 2: every week from medical Alright, so this is fun and
Speaker 2: it clearly not over all, right, Miss, Xavier Woods and
Speaker 2: Pete Dunn in a triple threat. This ended with Pete
Speaker 2: don defeating Miss and Xavier in eleven minutes. So he went,
Speaker 2: Pete Dounn advances, not that it's going anywhere, but he advanced,
Speaker 2: and that's it was a fine match, and it looked
Speaker 2: like by the way Xavier and Kofi Kingston backstage men
Speaker 2: did defenses They did mention too though, that yeah, we're
Speaker 2: almost coming up with ten years. As someone said in
Speaker 2: the mailbag, ten years here is coming up soon. I
Speaker 2: think there's a big turn by Xavier Woods coming and
Speaker 2: the ten year anniversary that'd be very apropos. Okay, we
Speaker 2: had what else here? Damian Priest and Rear Ripley featured
Speaker 2: in a video promo and saying, yeah, you're damn right,
Speaker 2: were the bad guys? And Ripley said it never felt
Speaker 2: so good to be bad and Priest and Ripley they
Speaker 2: work very well together, by the way. I think their
Speaker 2: chemistry is on point or on fleek, as the kids
Speaker 2: would say, they work well together. I don't know how
Speaker 2: long this alliance is going to last, probably in the
Speaker 2: next month or suit us two tops before they go
Speaker 2: their separate ways. Once Ripley gets her hands on Dom
Speaker 2: hits rip tight on Dom, maybe that'll be the conclusion
Speaker 2: because that's what we want, and we want also the
Speaker 2: finish hit on and a conclusive finish hit on Finn
Speaker 2: Balor by Damian Priest. You know, that's really the payoff
Speaker 2: here is that, And we'll probably get that in the
Speaker 2: next month or so. But again, Bad Blood's coming, and
Speaker 2: bad Blood would be a very perfect especially the name
Speaker 2: of the event. It would be a perfect finish to
Speaker 2: this rivalry bad Blood. There was bad blood between them,
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what this is. And I think the
Speaker 2: Bad Blood event is going to conclude a lot of
Speaker 2: different rivalries that are stirring, and we'll reset things when
Speaker 2: the November event comes along with Survivors series. All right,
Speaker 2: or is Crown Jewel in October?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Good lord? Yeah, Uncle Haddivers Chad Gable has already mentioned
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show as well. So yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: a good raw, kind of a weird raw, but one
Speaker 2: that was effective, one that had a main event that
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was, you know, just a couple
Speaker 2: of months ago would have said would have made event
Speaker 2: in raw. But here we are and I enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: and I hope you guys enjoyed this show. We are
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