WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.480 House Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Thanks for 3 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.199 joining us on the program, and welcome home Dean Sharp 4 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.559 the House Whisper. Here with you as I am every 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:22.039 Sunday morning from nine to noon Pacific time. 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And so if you've missed 18 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:04.120 any part of the show. The first hour of the show, 19 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.799 we were talking about birds. The second part of the show, 20 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.159 the middle hour, we were talking about bees. Because this 21 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.120 is our springtime, bring more nature back into your yard. 22 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.040 And now one of my favorite topics of all trees. 23 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.680 You hear me as a home designer and as a 24 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.760 landscape designer, you hear me talking about trees. The fact 25 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.000 that I mean, I love I love all plants. I 26 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:33.519 love them all native plants, shrubs, flowers, the entire, the 27 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.640 entire spectrum. But I tell you what, if you really 28 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.879 want to change the environment of your yard, if you 29 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.519 want to change the temperature in your yard, if you 30 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.159 want to change the wildlife in your yard, then and 31 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.599 if you want to By the way, one of the 32 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.280 biggest rois all right, so you know some of you 33 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.640 are listening here, like, all right, Dean's on his little 34 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.599 nature boy environmental kick today. All right, let's just talk 35 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.400 about pure ROI the National Association of Realtors have studied 36 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:04.680 this again and again and again, and they have yet 37 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.840 to change their mind on this. You know, as an 38 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:12.360 estate designer, there are times when a client will literally say, 39 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.360 I just want a fully mature tree in the front 40 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:17.479 of this empty lot. When we're done here, Dean, I've 41 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:19.680 got no problem. I got sources for that. I can 42 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.960 bring in a tree that's got a seventy two inch box, yeah, 43 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.960 six foot box by six foot or an eight foot box, 44 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.439 will plant it tomorrow, and you'll have a fully mature 45 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.639 tree sitting in your front yard. Yeah, that's going to 46 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:37.360 run you twenty thirty thousand dollars, depending on the species 47 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.280 of tree and the size of the tree, and the 48 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.439 crane service that we have to hire to bring it in. 49 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:44.800 But I will tell you this, a fully mature tree 50 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:49.319 added to the front of a an existing property, according 51 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:55.280 to the National Association of Realtor, will raise the property value, 52 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:59.680 the property value of that house by anywhere from five 53 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.159 to ten percent. Now think about that. Let's say you're 54 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:08.599 sitting on a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars home 55 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.400 and we invest twenty thousand dollars and put a mature 56 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.319 tree in your front yard. It just cost you twenty 57 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.400 thousand dollars. I'm not saying everybody should do. I'm just 58 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:24.680 saying we're just doing math. Okay, twenty thousand dollars Today, 59 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.639 we plant a tree, a mature tree in your front yard. 60 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:29.520 Guess what your home is worth by the time we 61 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.759 are done planting that tree. That's seven hundred and fifty 62 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:38.400 thousand dollars home, Okay, is now seventy five thousand dollars. 63 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:44.120 Greater value twenty thousand dollars tree seventy five thousand dollars 64 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:48.080 ROI on that. Okay, this is real. It's a real thing. 65 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.800 But I'm not I'm not here to talk to you 66 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.199 about the the ROI on your property. Okay, the money stuff, 67 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.159 we can talk about that later. What I am here 68 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:00.840 to talk about is what to do with trees springtime 69 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.240 versus what we do at other times of year, what 70 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:06.400 we should and shouldn't be doing. And to accomplish this feat, 71 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.360 I now have sitting across the table, my third guest 72 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:10.000 this morning. 73 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:11.199 Phew, a lot of guests. 74 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:18.319 Bob Lothed, certified arborist and my favorite arborist and tree 75 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.439 trimmer and good friend, is sitting across the table from me. 76 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.759 Bob. Welcome, thank you, the show, Thank you. It's good 77 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:25.199 to be here. 78 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.120 And I've had Bob on before, but he comes every 79 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.040 every autumn and every spring for our for our autumn 80 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:35.639 and spring backyard show. So all right, we're up against 81 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.000 a break. I've set it all up for you. We're 82 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.519 gonna talk trees, and Bob is going to give us 83 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.600 his expertise and his experience. He's also had an experience 84 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.560 with a Beastwarm not too long ago. So we're gonna 85 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.959 dovetail in what Nicole was talking about and get Bob's 86 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.279 experience of that whole thing. All of it happens. 87 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.800 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 88 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:58.439 KFI AM six forty. 89 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:06.319 You have dropped in, I hope pleasantly surprised to a 90 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.079 great little show that we're putting on for you this morning. 91 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.439 And I say that not because of me, but because 92 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:13.680 of the guests that I've had sitting across the table 93 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.079 from me this morning, everybody from Richard Armording from wild 94 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:21.199 Birds Unlimited, to Nicole Palladino from Bee Catchers, and now 95 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:25.800 sitting across the table from me, certified Arborus Bob Loft, 96 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:31.480 who is my local tree expert. And so we've talked 97 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.600 about birds, We've talked about bees. Now I want to 98 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:39.600 talk about that other critical component of habitat, trees and 99 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.600 other shows we'll do other landscaping shows where we focus 100 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.079 more on native plants and flowers and all of that. 101 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.759 So just know that we cover the whole spectrum here 102 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:52.959 on the show. But Bob Trees, my friend trees. How's 103 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.879 that ash tree looking in my yard? By the way, 104 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.560 your ash trees looking absolutely great. Could use a little 105 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.399 work next year. Fin it out a little bit next 106 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.319 year in the fall, in the fall fall. Okay, So 107 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.800 speaking of that, speaking of that, speaking of in the fall, 108 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:12.519 you know, I mean California, Southern California. We're we you know, 109 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.279 we we live here because the weather here is just 110 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.480 i mean, compared to other places, it is not extreme. Now, yeah, 111 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.920 we have our we've got our sant Ana wins, and 112 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.040 we've got our our one hundred plus degree days and 113 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.040 and all of that, and we've got our fire season 114 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:30.959 and all of that stuff. But the fact of the 115 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.439 matter is California remains a very very temperate place to live, 116 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.800 which means that when it comes to like tree trimming 117 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:42.560 and that, I mean, there's never really an awful season 118 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.800 to trim, per se just just because you know. But 119 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.560 but still trees are trying to They're they're pushing through 120 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.680 their beginning of their growth cycle right now in the spring, 121 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.600 and it's you know, we talked about autumn. Autumn is 122 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.399 really the optimal time if you're going to do a age. 123 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.360 You're trimming of a tree as opposed to shocking something 124 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.319 that's trying to grow right now. 125 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:06.000 That's right. 126 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.519 Fall is always the most fun time because you can 127 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.439 take a lot more off a tree and not feel 128 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.959 like you're you know, making it scream. And so you 129 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.920 just don't want these guys that are coming there and 130 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.759 turn a forty foot tree into a twenty foot tree. 131 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:21.680 Yeah, and the. 132 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.639 Customer goes, well, they said it'll grow back, So you 133 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:26.720 got to be a little more selective on your pruning 134 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.600 cuts and you know, obviously shaping the tree up for 135 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:30.839 the environment that they're in. 136 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:32.199 So that's fun. Yeah. 137 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.519 But as far as mature trees right now in the spring, 138 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:39.360 believe it or not, a lot of these trees are 139 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.920 already self fertilized. I mean, they don't need a lot 140 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.839 of fertilizing. You probably need a lot more fertilizing on 141 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.720 some of the garden trees more than anything. Maybe some 142 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:54.079 evergreen pears, fruit trees especially, This is a great time 143 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.560 to put the fur I like job tree steaks, So 144 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.959 I'm just a big joe job tree steak guy. 145 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:04.120 So it's a good time to inject nutrition into brooding 146 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:07.240 trees that time right now, What do you mean by 147 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.680 a big mature tree is self fertilized? 148 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:11.439 What just seems like. 149 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:18.720 The roots have reached that level of of what not. 150 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:20.079 I don't want to use water. 151 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.519 It just seemed to grab what they need out of 152 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.800 the soil around here, and you don't really have to 153 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.079 do a lot of fertilization on big trees. 154 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.519 Okay, that's how I was baiting you into that that answer, 155 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.440 because because because that's one of the things that I 156 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:36.639 promote with people about trees so often, right, is that 157 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.840 once a mature, once a tree gets mature, right, and 158 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:43.639 its roots are deep. I mean, you know, all of 159 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.240 human history, we make metaphors out of mature trees, right. 160 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:51.120 We talk about you know, being planted like a tree, uh, 161 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.480 being being you know stable like all but the but 162 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.440 the there's a reason for that because once trees are 163 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.840 like up and running on their own, they don't need 164 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.679 to get watered the like everything else in the yard. 165 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.120 They don't need to be you know, fertilized like everything 166 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:12.440 else in the yard, because they have found their sources. 167 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:13.639 They've found their place. 168 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.440 I will never understand how some trees get water, but 169 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.399 they sure do and they look great. And so if 170 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.799 to me, if a tree looks good like a lot 171 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:23.919 of things, if. 172 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:24.480 It ain't broke. 173 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.840 Don't fix it, amen, But if you start to see 174 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.080 some things, you might have to call in a professional 175 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:33.360 who might be able to inject some nutrients into the ground. 176 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.639 But you know, kind of rare, kind of rare, and 177 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.080 out here in thousand oaks, it just seems like the 178 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.440 perfect environment for all of our stuff, for all of life. 179 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.279 That's why we're here, that's right, all right. 180 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.919 So so and I always give this metaphor to people, 181 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.879 or this an analogy metaphor and some okay, whatever it is, 182 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.720 this word picture to people when you talked about fall, 183 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.519 doing a major prune on a tree in the fall, 184 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.120 so it doesn't scream as much. I just tell people, listen, okay, 185 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.720 trees they start getting sleepy in the fall. They go 186 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.840 in their dormant cycle, right, And so it's just like 187 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.080 somebody going in for major surgery. You know, it'd be 188 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.039 better if we cut them open and did all this 189 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:19.919 major surgery while they were asleep. 190 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:20.879 That's right. 191 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.000 It'd be better to do it while they're asleep instead 192 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.200 of just handing them like that tree branch here, Bite 193 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.919 down on this, buddy, we're about to take your leg off. Sorry, 194 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.799 we don't have any anesthesia. So the point is this, 195 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.159 trees naturally go into this dormant cycle in the fall, 196 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:40.240 and it's just safer too for the life of the tree. 197 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:42.679 If you're going to do a major cutback, to do 198 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.919 it then as opposed in springtime when they're literally waking up. 199 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.360 That's the last thing I want is I'm waking up 200 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:51.080 in the morning, is for a doctor to say, all right, buddy, 201 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.840 hang on because I'm about to cut into you. So 202 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:58.200 but there are things that we can do during spring 203 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.559 and are what are the kinds of things that people 204 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.720 should be looking for for their tree, Like when you 205 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.200 were saying when you were saying, if you know, if 206 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.240 it ain't broke, don't fix it. And if tree looks fine, 207 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.320 what are the kinds of things that people could be 208 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.840 looking out for that and to realize, man, that's not 209 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:19.759 such a good sign. 210 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:21.879 Well, if you see sections of the tree that might 211 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.720 get a lot of die back and you're not sure 212 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.000 what's going on, it's a good time to call somebody out. 213 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.759 Could be just a broken limb, you know. But there's 214 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:32.799 there's not a lot of pruning that you can do 215 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.240 to make a tree healthier. You can maybe save some 216 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:41.480 of the tree, but pruning it now is not a 217 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.519 big deal. But in the falls a good time. They're 218 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.000 gotten heavy, the winds come up, they start breaking limbs. 219 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.480 Always something to think about. So you don't can lighten 220 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:51.240 these limbs up, tipping back somethin out the tree, get 221 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:54.080 the get the sale off of them. For me. Right now, 222 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.240 a lot of it is fruit trees. This is a 223 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.399 very interesting year. We haven't had a seventy degree day. 224 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.320 I don't think since Christmas. It seems that way. 225 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.279 Sure s, I mean, I think we've had a couple 226 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.799 of But it's your it's sure. But we've been talking 227 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.519 about this all morning. You weren't here, but we've been 228 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.000 talking about the fact that this is like a legitimate 229 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:17.879 like eastern spring, where there's there's a little bit of 230 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:19.919 warmth in the morning, and then it gets cloudy and 231 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.080 then it rains for two hours and then and then 232 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:26.440 it stays cloudy, and then then the temperature drops twenty degrees. 233 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.159 This is a this is a very slow roll of spring. 234 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:34.080 It is very slow rollout. I think right now, fruit 235 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:37.440 trees are probably a big thing. Fertilize your fruit trees, 236 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.000 your citrus, your stone fruits, the stone fruits. 237 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.440 Everything is slow. But if you look, you see new 238 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.360 blossoms coming up. But maybe a month ago they would 239 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.639 have been there. But because we're cold, everything's been set 240 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.759 back a little bit. But I have noticed a lot 241 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.799 of the stone fruit putting out a lot of nice fruit. 242 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.399 And you could go through there and fin out on fruits. 243 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.000 So if you have, you know, three pieces of fruit 244 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.799 on one branch really close to each other, take one 245 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.399 or two of them off so the other the other fruit, 246 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.440 can you know, expand and become bigger fruit. 247 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:12.159 Okay, So I want to talk about that, so that 248 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:16.039 there logic to be looking for about thinning out, especially 249 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:19.279 with a fruit tree, in order to increase its productivity 250 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.399 or the size of the fruit or whatever. All Right, 251 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.519 we're gonna go to break. When we come back, you're 252 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.720 gonna explain that to me a little bit better so 253 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:29.720 I understand it better. I am sitting here with certified 254 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.679 arborius Bob Loft, who is my personal tree expert, and 255 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.720 now yours, and we will continue to talk about the 256 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.600 life of your trees in this interesting springtime. 257 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.039 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 258 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:47.679 KFI AM six forty. 259 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:51.879 I wish you guys could just be sitting in studio 260 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:53.679 with me as Bob and I are just talking about 261 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:57.000 all things and all sorts of stuff. I am sitting 262 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:02.080 here with my certified arbor Bob Loft, who is my 263 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:07.519 personal tree expert. We've talked today about birds, We've talked 264 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.360 about bees. Now we're talking about trees. Because I am 265 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.919 on a mission. I'm on a mission as a home designer, Okay, 266 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:19.639 as a landscape designer. I'm on a mission to bring 267 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:25.600 as much nature back into our yards, back onto our 268 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.039 properties as possible. And I said this earlier in the show, 269 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:30.720 but for those of you who have just joined us, 270 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.559 I'm going to say it again. Anything, any creature on 271 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:41.519 this planet that builds a home displaces something that was 272 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.840 there before. Right when a gopher burrows a hole up 273 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.279 in the middle of a meadow, roots are displaced, plants 274 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:53.960 are removed, things that were there before get moved out 275 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.919 of the way. It is not something for human beings, 276 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:59.519 in my opinion, to feel guilty about that. We build 277 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.039 a structure, a build a home where there was a 278 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.799 prairie once before, or where there was an open field 279 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.679 of wildflowers once before. That is not the issue. We're 280 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.480 all entitled to our homes. But but, but, but but 281 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.279 what we don't do as well these days as the 282 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.039 other creatures around us is integrate our homes back into 283 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.879 the natural order so that nature stays with us and 284 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.039 stays around us. You know, once we built a home, 285 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.279 then we pave a street. Once we pave a street, 286 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.600 then we plow under everything in our backyard. I've literally 287 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.000 had clients and folks come to me over the years, 288 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.480 and you can relate to this. I've literally had folks 289 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:42.480 who have spent multiple millions of dollars on a home 290 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.240 away from the center of town, right on the edge 291 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.200 of open space, right so their home as a view 292 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.639 and they're out right on the edge of open space, wildland, 293 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.480 and then come to me and say, how do I 294 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.080 keep all these creatures out of my yard? How do 295 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.519 I keep you know, how do we kill the coyotes? 296 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.799 How do I keep this from happening in that? And 297 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:08.720 I just look at them and I say, how dare you? 298 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.559 How dare you pay extra money to live on the 299 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:17.759 edge of nature and then complain about nature being right 300 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:22.000 outside your door. So my point is this, I don't 301 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.679 care where you live. I don't care how far in 302 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.360 the inland you live or in the middle of town 303 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.120 that you live. When it comes to your home and 304 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:36.799 your yard, trees are one of those keystone elements of 305 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:42.399 bringing the opportunity for nature because trees, as we said earlier, Bob, 306 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.879 they dig deep, they find their own sources of water. 307 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:51.639 Trees through a process it's called transpiration. Trees don't perspire, 308 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.039 they transpire. They they the moisture that they find in 309 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.799 the soil they release out into the air around them. 310 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.600 They cool the air around them, not just from shade, 311 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.279 but also from the release of moisture. They become a 312 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.799 source of shelter and cover for all sorts of animals. 313 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:12.720 They become the nesting place of birds. And so the 314 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:16.400 more trees that we bring into our homes and the 315 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.960 more beautiful architectural structures they are when they're prune properly. 316 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.359 Which is one of the things that I love about 317 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.559 what you do, Bob, because you have a way of 318 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:30.319 approaching as an arborist, approaching trees not to mutilate them, 319 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.279 but to enhance their structure, their beauty. And before the break, 320 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.000 we were talking about fruit trees right now, and you 321 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.519 were saying that if we thin out, and I want 322 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.079 you to explain that to if we find like, let's say, 323 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.960 you know, because I've got some citrus right there, let's 324 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.279 say I've got three fruits all growing right next to 325 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.839 each other. You're saying, I can thin that out so 326 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.480 to give a little bit more space so things get bigger. 327 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:52.359 Explain that. 328 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:53.960 You know, it's kind of funny that you would have 329 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:57.240 to go and mention citrus because probably schitrs are one 330 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:02.519 of the stronger produce so you might get they don't 331 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.039 seem to grow in such a clump like our stone fruits. 332 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.279 Okay, So stone fruits is what you were talking about. 333 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.119 Yeah, and the citrus, you know, they'll push one off, 334 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.200 but the stone fruits they all grow together. 335 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.640 And then now somebody out there is sitting there going, 336 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:18.640 what the heck? What the heck? Is a stone fruit? 337 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.960 Okay, plumb peach, anything that has a pit in the middle, 338 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.160 it's a fruit. It's all soft on the outside, it's 339 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:26.279 got a pit in the set. That's that's the stone there. 340 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.000 Get the stone fruit, okay, okay, okay. 341 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.200 So you take if you have three of them really tight, 342 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.559 take two of them off, and it's a lot of 343 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.839 work but at the end of the day, instead of 344 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.480 having three of them grow and fall off together, you 345 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.680 can develop one nice big plum which you would just 346 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:46.839 love with, you know, plum something plump something, plum something, 347 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:51.119 you know, nice cold plum, all the same peach. I 348 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.759 guess the biggest problem that you have, or the complaint, 349 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:54.759 is how do I keep? 350 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.359 And I don't have a good answer for this. How 351 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:57.839 do I keep? 352 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:00.640 If you asked the question right, how do I keep 353 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:05.039 all the critters from eating my fruit? The squirrels beat 354 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:08.440 me to it. Well, you can get you can get 355 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.960 netting and put them over the fruit if you have 356 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:11.839 the wherewithal. 357 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.920 Now the tree is big enough that the fruit's high 358 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.759 enough off the ground that the squirrel can't make the jump. 359 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.680 The squirrels are damn clever. Well, if they just climb 360 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.680 up that trunk. Yeah, but what if I put one 361 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.119 of those Okay, so let me get your opinion about this, 362 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.559 Because what if I put like a metal collar around 363 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.559 the trunk, in other words, that eighteen in section, so 364 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:35.440 that as they climb up they just can't get any 365 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:36.079 traction on that. 366 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:40.680 Yeah, most fruit trees, ninety fruit trees don't grow like 367 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:42.640 that because we want to keep them low so we 368 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:44.240 can reach the fruit exactly. 369 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:45.880 And so if you have one. 370 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.839 Branch that's hanging down below the sheet metal cover that 371 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.640 you have there, and he grabs that and off he goes. 372 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.839 Or the birds, all the birds will come in. 373 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:57.079 You know. I've had people go, oh, man, I came 374 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.279 out and there's like seventeen birds in there, and look 375 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:00.359 what they did to my fruit. 376 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:02.039 I don't know how you stop that. 377 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:06.440 You could use the nylon, but then they get stuck 378 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.400 in the nylon, and then people are going. 379 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:13.039 Like, oh no, so I don't know. Hang possibly. 380 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.200 I've had actually people tell me that if you can 381 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.359 hang the real loose aluminum foil. 382 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.880 The little ribbons, the reflective ribbons, that seems to help. Yeah, 383 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.240 they don't. Most birds are annoyed by that. They're not 384 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.000 sure what that's all about. It's too much motion. They're 385 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:30.039 just skittish of motion. 386 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.559 In general. There's not just is. 387 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:36.400 Not really in any good way to protect the fruit 388 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.240 unless you have a nice, big yard, and believe it 389 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.680 or not, everything's grown away from everything. Then it's just 390 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.559 sometimes the squirrels just don't go that extra ten feet 391 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.839 or fifteen feet to go up the tree. To go 392 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:51.119 to the other one. There's no good at least I 393 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.960 have no good idea. You know, there might be some 394 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:55.920 what would you call that? 395 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.119 Yeah, but I so appreciate you saying this, okay, because 396 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:03.799 you know, people come to the show for answers, right, 397 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.240 but sometimes the answers that I have to give people 398 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:10.400 are not the clean, tight, tidy answers that they expect. 399 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.079 What you're talking about is realistic, and that's something that 400 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:15.920 Tina and I have experienced here. 401 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:16.440