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this week's episode to say that we've got Sam back.

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Sam is returning to the show on this week's episode,

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and they tell us a bit about their time in Japan,

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going to hardcore festivals over there, that kind of thing.

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But it turns out, with getting back into the podcasting

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swing of things, we have some audio gremlins as well

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that arise in this episode. I'm going to say that

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it's usable in the sense that Sam is comprehensible. You'll

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be able to understand what they are saying. But I

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obviously know that the quality of what is coming through

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on Sam's mike here is is not great. We are

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going to you know, getit fixed for next week on

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the show, so just bear with us for this one.

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But yeah, just be aware that Sam's audio in this

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show is not up to really usually what we want

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it to be. As they say, the show goes on. Nonetheless, yeah,

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warning the airhead off we go. Hello everyone, and welcome

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to the adults only section of the download Ferris Wheel.

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Everybody who has at download had a good weekend. It

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seemed jolly unless you were, I don't know, in the

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crowd trying to see architects, or perhaps a child looking

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up in horror at the spinning pods above your head.

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That's not metal. And this is an edition of Hyperblast

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where we are here with you every Friday, letting you

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know in speedy fashion what has been going on in

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the world of rock and heavy music this week. My

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name is parentheyish with me first of all, resuming his

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seat of the last few weeks. Mark Anderson is here again.

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Hello Mark.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm undefeated. My chair has not been you so.

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Speaker 1: Fending away any contenders, absolutely, but a contender rises, I

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suppose re emerging after five or six weeks gallivanting, rocking

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around East Asia, rocking around various Japanese rock bars, or

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wherever you may be. Sam Dignon is back on the show. Hello, Sam,

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it's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: It's been Yeah, it's been like the longest ever been

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away since I've been part of this. Yeah, five weeks

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of traveling through Asia, Thailand, Vietnam, Japan. It was like,

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I mean amazing. It's just going to like disconnect from

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the world for five weeks and just going to like

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go off on an adventure seel the harder bands go

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to metal bars, avoid online.

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Speaker 1: Observe the banana discourse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was aware of the discourses. You know, no

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banana men at hardcore gigs in Asia, I can tell

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you that, but yeah, yeah, it was. It was an

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amazing trip, like game going to go for that long

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kind of based around plans to attend Blacks Festival in Japan,

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but then also did so much else. I fired and

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AK forty seven at anyone shooting range. It was. I

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was in one of those like tours of like the tunnels,

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like to be at Common all that, and they have

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like Prince blown by his Army basically those things they

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have like managers like do you would you like to

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buy a machine gun? I was like, I mean, like

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why not. Target found like a really cool metal bar

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in Thailand that was I went a few times. It

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was called a Mortal and yes it is like themed

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after the band. So there was like a massive Immortal

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banner behind the bar, and the two guys are like,

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as I said, bart it is a store set up

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in an alleyway and then there's like a garage opposite

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where they have gigs and stuff like that. And I

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that was a really cool kind of like oh here's

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my like metal tasting in Thaireland. That was really good.

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But then yes, Japan, the big thing was blood Ex Festival,

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which I mean support the blood Ax is kind of

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like Japan's biggest hardcore and metalcorp festival happens twice a

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Speaker 1: A ridiculously hard name for a fest. Yeah, in just

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Speaker 3: Stops they will be They'll jenny to get like two

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differing eis Pan. But yeah, so obviously this time it

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was headlined by Speed and Poison the Welt as like

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to their warmup shows in Tokyo the week before Blacks

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cool venues. The best vibes roll through like the whole gigs,

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turnstyle kind of thing of doing hardcore but having bits

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merch tables set up, and there's like a like like

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band one. But if you like catch one on your washing.

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receipt and then they'll hugu you out and like you're right, yeah,

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well good Like it was a very much a all

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around that everyone's going in turn hard and I will

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tell you Japanese crowds the most music. You said.

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was I'm going to get onto that in one of

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was just seeing them, like me, it's one of those

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and I was like, yeah, fine, you know what. It's

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quite people were going crazy for it. Early highlights for

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but like hard music they were. They were fantast They

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people diving off the stage pylons for the mic like

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that the first was kicking into gear, really sort of

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building the mental They were great, really cool band. I

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bought there because I really wanted to sets. Now I've

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got a whole set fan. Yeah, because Tower Records had

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was like, yeah, that's a fifty minute hardcore record. That's

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that's a good one table set. Foreign Hands were one

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of the trog bands. They're a US medical band if

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you like your kind of like really two thousands for

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a metal corps. They're they're a very very good hand

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at that. The most like the band that stood out

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A S. They are that They are the most octane

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metical band. It's the old singer for Crystal Lake. Basically

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that that's the kind of the fruit line.

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those bands, and I was thinking Crystal Lake and they're

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it was almost because they had the new metal bounce

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wasn't so sure and then you went back highlights Koyo,

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who have released we didn't review it, but probably this

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year's best pop punk album. I mean, Koyo, I have

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been mayving, going from strength to strength and they have

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really stepped up this year on this album and they

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alongs and jumping up and down pop punk vibes, which

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was great views from the Sawyers was one of the

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real highlights for me. I've shouted out this band a

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little bit, I you know, had their albums one of

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my favorites of last year. I think of the kind

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the an search scoring, but not just that. I think

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like fistling and beatdowns that their set was one of

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the most violent of the day. They they're another one

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good momentum. They support Poison the World. So I've got

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seem twice, which was just very nice to sort of

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last or twelve months to catch them like twice. But

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of in Flames at the Gates kind of flavor to it,

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Bus Missails are are really doing that strong and that

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they're gaining attention. The set though, that I had to

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shout out is every Blood acts. There are two bands

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Grave and None. They are Japanese hardcore. They are like legends.

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They are royalty. In that scene, Lord to the Grave

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are really good. The guy the vogus of Lord of

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the Bag is the guy who puts on that acts

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so like legends in that saying that the entire Tokyo

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hard casine tends to operate through them. But the numb

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of everything that had show. This was the one where

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the mosh moves. They have a song called Ninja's Attitude

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and the crowd responded so yeah nw a like attitude.

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Speaker 1: Like and do you want to do you want to

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quickly tell us about what Speeds Japanese said.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Speeds Japanese shirt that because obviously all the bands,

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the bandsters have unique nurses of this one, Speed had

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a tea shirt that having the back s w ag

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swag something we Asians got and I was like, excellent

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on point. Can't buy that myself, but that is an

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amazing T shirt and it Yeah, I saw a lot

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of them around the crowd of both the Speed headline

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show and the like Yeah Numb. But the song is

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Attitude where it has a hoope with like join the

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Ninja Squad, which is like the big ending shout along

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hook like that seemed to just activate the crowd and

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the spin kicks got higher, the backups got higher. The

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most biblical stage I've ever seen, where again this was

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one of the mates on side the stage and he

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was just like and he just did like the most

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perfect frontlet into the crowd, not onto the crowd, into

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the pit. Four who old out of it, got up

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and card of wash and I was like, how did

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you not break your neck doing that? It's like this

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song giving like everyone superpowers. It's like one of the

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most unbelievable holes of the thing, Like I quite like numb.

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They released it now earlier this year, which is you know,

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they meat headed, fun hard got obviously the interest music

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was the God's fim the dun Dun dun d like

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that that's where they came on to. They embrace it.

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But this was like the crowd went absolutely ape ship

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for them. It felt kind of like a real reverence

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moment for this legendary Japanese hardcore bands who have like

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helped so many bands for the scene. And it was

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such a celeb between thing big Boy Women the other

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twin bands. They were great fun big Boy is like

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my favorite name for a hardcore band. I've decided, like

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it's so good. And then it was aime for a

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Poison world and speak Poison, I must say, was the

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kind of like almost like the Okay or the thirty

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year old both plushy roads to the front. We're gonna

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have a nice sing along and watch a little bit

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and go hid when they're drop opposite of the Sember songs,

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but that's gonna, you know, just sing along and have

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a nice time for this. And that was great, had

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been fantastic. The new songs played off the new Albu

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batch sheet, which I was really happy to see, like

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they clearly try to push that a sort of thing

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letter thing has maintained its place in the set, like,

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and that got people buying. I saw two stage I ever,

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during let of Things was like those two guys they

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know what's up, but you know, and then you know,

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nerdy and I swinning me slice paper sliced paper wrists

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said the crowd fucking batship. Both times I saw them

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that song, when you said that that opening riff, I

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was like, okay, now this is like kicking to overdrive mode.

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Let's start walking on people's heads. Which again it wasn't

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like that for the entire Poison the World set, but

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it was during those sort of choice cuts the crowd

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went banana strait and otherwise was just like sing along

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with you know, Bochler and all the new stuff. Really

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great stuff. They they're clearly kind of just had the

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best time in back and it was fantastic. And then

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Speed Headline and Speed. I think the Speed one of

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the things that they actually do trist for a sense

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of occasion. As I said, like three fifths of that

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band are aged, and they did all users a sort

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of trance say like that you know them growing up

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in Australia hardcle saying there weren't many guys like them.

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They never FEI out it, so they just come to

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Japan and see this kind of like hardcore se in

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Tokyo see these leisurary bands like Numb and Loyal to

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the Grave. But again, like all the members of them

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came out to do various guest spots. I being like

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every Japanese hardcore vocalist in Tokyo at that point, came

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out to a guest spot with Speed. The crowd went absolutely.

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H Ilwa was hanging at the Baptist because I was like,

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I'm thirty three and my body has broken after mohing

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trying to keep up with these Japanese mashes could do it.

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So I was like, We're going to go hang at

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the back. But it was it was a great ends.

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There a real kind of like celebratory this is what

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hardcore is all about, and speeds are really infectious live

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like I like to feed on records, but live because

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like he like he's the most energetic and intense hardcore

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promerbly will just will you on. He was like, everyone,

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get on this fucking stage right now on stage dive

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and it was such a great end of the day.

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And then there was like I say, just so called

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the Blacks. All these festivals I wanted to go to

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for years. Ever since, I've kind of like discovered that

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jin Japan has this hardcore festival that they look every

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type were in that I look at the lineup on

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like there's a way, you know, I have all of

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like American bands that they put on there that I

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was going to see alongst like all of these Japanese

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bands I want to discover and get into, and they

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just had the best time. Outside of that, went to

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a bunch of called metal Bars and Toko Gods Is

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again I'll give a shout to that. That's just a

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great metal bar spot. And then Deaf Matching Hell, which

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went on my last night, which happened like going there

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and I was like okay called hate Read's playing, and

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then on one screen at one point drag Me Tail

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was play when I came and to watch the rest

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of that, and then as I was and then on

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one screen, Demons came on, and on the other screen

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Brain Dead, and I was like, I've got to stick

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around and you know, enjoy a bit of Demons and

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brain didn't have.

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Speaker 1: To drinks a little those two at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Its like again unbel a tiny little bar that sits

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about like three seats, and then one else just saw

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squeezes in there and I was just chanceing to be

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guy find the bar cha guy about I was like

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brained Dead and Demons and metal and it was it

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was a really cool place like Japan like has a

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break and of like like these small kind of hubs

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for hardcore and metal that are really cool. Nude Records

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is a great record store. That's where I've got a

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lot of my scepts from. I bought the Numb album

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vinyl and and then just I'd like to say it

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was just a great time. But those are the kind

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of like big T andm relevant kind of like adventures

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on my time in this pan. I could go on

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about Disneyland. I won't bore you for all that, but

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you know, had had a had a wonderful old time.

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Speaker 1: Really stuff before we get into the news proper. I

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had not, as you know, exciting a jam packed few weeks,

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shall we say, But I did this week. I went

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to a gig I want to chat about a little bit,

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which is a sort of unlikely pairing but very much

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both in my area. I went to see Voivod and

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Midnight playing together, which I guess the connection there is.

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You know, they're both heavy metal bands, right, but very

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different like you put them on paper, and they don't

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seem like they naturally go together because Voivod is a

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famously kind of obtuse, strange, esoteric, progressive kind of band,

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and then Midnight is the most dumb just like hooking

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pure heavy metals straight into your veins and going ape

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shit for a little while, heavy metal band that you

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could feasibly imagine. But those two touring together, like I said,

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not really a natural pairing, but both bands I would

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absolutely go. Want to see Voivod I had not seen

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in eleven years. Amazingly, I only see Voivod the once

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prior to this, and it was in twenty fifteen, and

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I don't know why I've you know, because I love Voyvod.

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I've been a fan for a long time, but for

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whatever reason, our parts had not recrossed. Midnight I have

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not seen in at least six months, on the other hand,

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so it's fun that I will go and see every

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time they're in town to have a sick time. And then,

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like I said, for me, at least it'slightly rarer draw

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of avand who I love but had not seen in

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a very long time. Midnight and to kind of, you know,

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make this even more confusing, I guess Midnight were doing

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a special set of the fifteenth anniversary of their debut

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studio album, Satanic Royalty, which is, in my mind a

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heavy metal classic. It's not necessarily my absolute favorite Midnight album.

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It's certainly up there in the higher echelons, but I

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would say like it is probably the like maybe it's

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because it's the first one, but it's almost like their

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Hall of Fame album, and like they came out and

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they didn't open with you know, they didn't go straight

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into that record. They played black rock and roll and

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evil like a Knife first of all, and then played

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the entirety of Satanic Royalty, which does mean you're that

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you're opening that with the title track, which is a

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fucking classic, and then as you go through that record,

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you've got you Can't stop Stick and Lust, filth and

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sleez and violence on violence. And you know, as someone

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who I do see Midnight a lot, it was cool

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to see them do again something a little bit more specific,

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and you know, wheeling out some songs off that record

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that they won't always do. And then the final three

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songs that they played after Satanic Royalty, Uh, we were

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fucking Speed and Darkness, who Gives a Fuck? And then

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ending on fuck Off and Live And I was like,

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these are brilliant songs. I love them all. And then

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I realized their lare three songs. That's the triple fuck attack, right,

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every single one of those three songs has fucking the

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title And that is the level of dumb that I

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need from Midnight. But I will always say this about Midnight.

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They are about as pure a heavy metal show as

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you can see. And by that I don't mean, you know,

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the big stage show, the big gimmicks. We're not talking

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about seeing the likes of Iron Maid and all, like

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you know, modern day creator or anything. What I mean

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is like getting in there, down and dirty, no stage props,

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no nothing, just feeling that fucking rock and roll mayhem

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being pounded at you by a three piece who are

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just going crazy, like like people are getting up on

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the stage and stave diving and Athenar is basically headbutting

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them on the stage next to him. Just so fucking cool,

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like I said, so just like raw, a pure, unfiltered

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heavy metal show. And then the flipside of that voivod

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like I said, a way more strange, complex, difficult kind

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of band. Who are you know, one of the most

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probably the most ripped off and most influential kind of

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sort of progressive thrashband. I suppose that you would call

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them of like the the eras you know, classic eightieser

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period and hancing him a long long time. They've released

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like several album since the last time I saw them,

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and I always, you know, I listened to and I

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check out their new stuff, and some I particularly, you know,

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connect with more than others. Whatever. I wasn't prepared for

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what an old school set this would turn out to be.

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Like they played a couple of the newer tracks that

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I you know, have come out since I last saw them,

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but a lot of it was just drawn from like

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the first five records, which is like the you know,

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as was most thrashbands, the most classic revered kind of period.

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So we had like, you know, experiment from Operation and

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sorry to mention Hat Tross opening it in a couple

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of tracks from that record, and then you've got the

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really fucking raw songs from like the first record, and

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it's like really you know, playing sort of punky thrash metal,

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not as elaborately prog as by like the end of

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the eighties, but still doing weird choy choices and stuff

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like that, and you know, watching them up close, like

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this was a smaller venue than the last time I'd

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seen Voyvod as well, so like more uploads and personal

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and watching what they're doing and being like Snake, the vocalist,

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who has one of the weirdest voices. He's probably one

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of the reasons why Voivod never became like super super popular,

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because you've got this like strange daralk on vocals basically,

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but that adds a lot to their personality and that

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the first song he comes out and he makes more

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facial expressions inside the intro of that first song than

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I've probably ever made in my life, just like a real,

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like freak dynamic performer. And then I'm watching, you know,

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the guitarist and wondering how you know, they're like classic

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era guitarist Piggy who passed away long time ago, but

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like again classic era guitarists, watching these parts that he

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wrote and being like, how the fuck did you come

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up with those chords? Like how are these the building

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blocks that you've built thrash metal rifts out of? They

478
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,640
don't make any sense at all watching them as a band.

479
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,839
I think they're more like watching Napalm Death than they

480
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,279
are watching like any of the other like you know,

481
00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:20,279
bands of their era HOSTI around playing shows like you know,

482
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,880
Testament or Exist or whatever. Because you've got like a

483
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,480
kind of a narco punk drummer. Basically, the band almost

484
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,839
kind of careen out of control in the way that

485
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,839
Napalm Death do, and they're veering between these weird grooves

486
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,519
and weird chords and stuff like that. The guitarist they've

487
00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:37,480
got now, he was wearing a cardiac shirt and I

488
00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:40,160
was like, you kind of are like to eighty thrash

489
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,599
metal what that band are to you know, like experimental

490
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,880
rock whatever, that lineage is really there. And then like

491
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,480
I said, lots of like unexpected old school deep cuts

492
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,519
and stuff like a Tornado from the Killing Technology, which

493
00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,400
is probably my favorite VOYVOD record. Sit to see that,

494
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,640
and like weird songs to pull out, Like there's a

495
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,039
song called Condemned to the Gallows which they recently re recorded,

496
00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:02,640
and I guess that's why I was in the set,

497
00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:05,880
but that's initially from their like pre album demo, so

498
00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:09,000
like a non album literally that like the first voiv

499
00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:12,440
ever written basically just forty five years in or whatever,

500
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,200
being like, yeah, let's bring that one out again. And

501
00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:16,319
then even the one that really got me is they

502
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,559
played the song Nanoman, which is from the Negatron album,

503
00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:22,400
which is from the mid nineties period when Snake the

504
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,400
vocalist was not in the band, right, a bit of

505
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,200
the Blaze Bailey scenario maybe like as a period where

506
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,920
he was not in the band and they made this record.

507
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,559
I mentioned Piggy, the guitarist who is in that era,

508
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,319
is not in the Bannuy Bab because he passed away

509
00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:35,759
a long time ago. Then we also have the fact

510
00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:38,039
that they have a different basis nowadays. So they're wheeling

511
00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,960
out a song from a mid nineties record. We're the

512
00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:41,960
only person in the band now who is on that

513
00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:45,839
album is the drummer, And in what scenario do you

514
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,759
do that? Like, we're getting everyone board to do that,

515
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,000
but they just like completely again unpredictably, will do shit

516
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,559
like that. And as a you know, first reconnecting with

517
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,119
Voivol for me in the live environment in eleven years,

518
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,039
it was cool to see what a bizarre, one off,

519
00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:02,799
eccentric kind of band they are. We've definitely got to

520
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,559
do an album club or something at some point because

521
00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:08,000
there's such a you know, seminal like one of the real,

522
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:12,880
the true heavy metal cult bands. But their influence and

523
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,799
their you know, the status really just kind of keeps

524
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:17,319
on going about it. And yeah, great to reconnect with

525
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,480
them in that live setting into the news. And speaking

526
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,400
of reconnecting, we are starting with one that I don't

527
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,759
think anyone saw coming. Faith No More. About two days

528
00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:30,720
ago from where we currently are. First out of the

529
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:35,000
blow No Warning at All uploaded a teaser that was

530
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,000
a photo of a live crowd with the Faith No

531
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:44,039
More like star logo over it and just the date

532
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,119
twenty twenty seven, and that alone, the fact that the

533
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,440
photo was a you know, the picture was a live crowd,

534
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,480
you can immediately assume what's going on there. But it

535
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:54,920
has since been confirmed by Bassis Billy Gould in an

536
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,519
interview that yes, Faith No More in twenty twenty seven

537
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,359
are going to be played shows and this is one

538
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,599
that obviously Faithmore More reuniting is not unprecedented. It's happened

539
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,640
like twice before, right, but at this stage in the game,

540
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,279
right in twenty six going into twenty seven, based on

541
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,279
the word that we have been receiving for the last

542
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,079
several years, and how the most recent bout of faith

543
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,279
there more activity kind of you know fell away. I

544
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,279
really don't think anyone was expecting this.

545
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought freethonable. I think we discussed person like

546
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,920
if it's like firstone, what I've done, they're trying to

547
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,319
lie under it that they're not coming back like what

548
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,319
they Yeah, Like I think to me, this is one

549
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,759
of those just like never say never. At this point,

550
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,400
anything can happen. Bands are going to change their mind

551
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,880
at any moment. But I was doing shot to me,

552
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:40,759
do I want to hope we're geting UK at twenty

553
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:42,359
tway seven. I'd other to be the case. I'm not

554
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,920
gonna like on my breath just yet because this might

555
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,559
be you know, they end up doing a Sick New

556
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,559
World or one of those sort of things or whatever.

557
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,160
But still Faith No More are on the greatest bands

558
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,839
of the of their era. Them coming back in any

559
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,200
guys is something to celebrate. They are fantastic live. I

560
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,160
would love to see them again. So fingers crossed this

561
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,440
reaches us at some point, but yeah, what a happy thing.

562
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: I guess this is our lesson to never trust Faith

563
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,799
No More or what they say. Yeah, but even yeah,

564
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,559
I mean if it does come to the UK, i'd

565
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,519
love to see it. I've never seen Faith No More.

566
00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:24,200
I would love to obviously. I hope it's not you

567
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,319
saying Sick New World, said a shiver domest buying Sam.

568
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,920
That's probably what it's just going to be, like, hope

569
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,359
not residencies around the US, I please no. But yeah,

570
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,640
it's it's nice to see those guys back together.

571
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

572
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: You know, there was a photo that Roddy put on

573
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,960
his Instagram of just him and you know, with his

574
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,920
arm around Mike hanging out. Nice to see those guys

575
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,279
back together, you know what I mean. Because the way

576
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,440
that the last Faith name or as I said, sort

577
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,559
of a period of activity ended was they had shows

578
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,359
booked for like was it around COVID time, wasn't It

579
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,839
was like twenty twenty ish or something, And then the

580
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,920
shows got pulled and then they got postponed, and then

581
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,920
the word came out that essentially Mike was going to

582
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,440
be stepping away from the band for a good period

583
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,759
of time. And as the years went on, those postponed

584
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:14,720
shows became clear that they were essentially never happening, and

585
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,920
Mike was much more interested in playing shows with his

586
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:21,039
other projects, the likes of Mister Bungle for example. And

587
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,400
like you said, Faith No More themselves have said the

588
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,079
other members of Faith No More have said, yeah, us

589
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,839
and Mike like we're not really talking right now basically,

590
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,160
and we kind of all feel like this has run

591
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,599
its course and it's done. So the fact that this

592
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,440
has come around, like I said, so quickly, like those

593
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,880
comments from other members of Faith, the more we're not

594
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,920
a long time ago, Like I'll have to go back

595
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,880
and source, like you know, when those news stories were

596
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,200
going around. But I feel like it was Yeah. I

597
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,799
feel like it was only maybe a year or so

598
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,720
ago that we had comments from people like Mike Borden whoever,

599
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,839
being like, yeah, Faith No More is done. So the

600
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,720
fact that they could come together and so quickly you know,

601
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,759
book whatever shows they've got booked and all this is

602
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,920
it is absolutely like a surprising turn of event. Obviously

603
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:02,680
it's a very welcome one, not just in terms of

604
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,279
the like to have seen Faith No More, but just

605
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,920
the personal narrative of, like I say, following these guys

606
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,119
and I feel like we're all we all feel better

607
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,240
if Faith No More our friends that are on good terms, right,

608
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,599
But Faith No More definitely come back in twenty seven

609
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,240
playing shows. We don't know where yet, but if they

610
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,319
were to do you know, more than just the local residents.

611
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,799
Let we're saying, and actually you know, appear on let's

612
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,519
say our doorsteps. I mean I you know, I saw

613
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,039
Faith No More twice in their kind of mid twenty

614
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:30,119
tens period of activity. I did have a ticket for

615
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,839
one of that. I think the Brixton show that got

616
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,640
you know, postponed had never happened, so I would love

617
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,279
to see it again. Absolutely, my real like you know,

618
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,799
burst of joy for this is for anyone who has

619
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,680
not yet seen Faith No More and felt like their

620
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,319
chance was lost. Because if they do come round and

621
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,319
you've not seen Faith no More and you get that

622
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,079
chance to do it, then that's a you know, a welcome,

623
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,079
you know, branch from the heavens basically for an opportunity

624
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,640
that you may have lost it. That is brilliant news that,

625
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,559
like I said, none of us ever actually thought was

626
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,400
going ahead at this point. We thought they were done

627
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160
and turns out not. And I don't think this is

628
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,640
a case where we're like, oh no, will they still

629
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,039
be good whatever? Because Faith no More?

630
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: Live?

631
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: If Faith no More the last record is you know,

632
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:12,640
it's over a decade old now, but the last record

633
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,279
is great. The shows around it were great, Faith There

634
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,359
or Live, particularly if they're all you know, obviously they're

635
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,640
in good spirits. Perhaps why they're coming back to doing this.

636
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,480
There's no level of obligation about this at all. I

637
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,119
think these shows will be great. What I suppose I

638
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,799
want to ask is how big do you feel, you know,

639
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,680
a twenty twenty seven Faith There or reunion will be?

640
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Like obviously it's big for you know, music fans, it's

641
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,440
big for heavy metal historians. It's big for people with

642
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,720
good taste. But in terms of you know, the kind

643
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,000
of numbers that we're talking here, how far do you

644
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:43,559
think this goes?

645
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: I mean in the UK, I would imagine Brickston would

646
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,759
be a sort of good base level. I can't gage

647
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,000
how much the kind of like nostalgia wave that seems

648
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,319
to take over everyone at the moment, how much faith

649
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,519
there are kind of part of that because they they

650
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,920
just seem always this is just a odd bands, because

651
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,519
they always seem to exist on their own island where

652
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,480
they are huge, but they feel they are cused. But

653
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,400
they're a cold band and that like a lot of

654
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,799
people who are like fans of you know, nineties rocking

655
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,759
melt bands, problem aren't necessarily a word of faith in

656
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,279
one They they kind of just exist in this weird

657
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,359
bubble Where'm like, has the young generation caught on to

658
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,759
faith there more yet? Like have they had an acid

659
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:18,160
bath moment where like that boald? Are they on TikTok?

660
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,880
Like I don't know, is there a faith and mortal

661
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,079
that's used on TikTok? These all sort of factors that

662
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,759
come into the conversation. I won't when we talk about

663
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,799
these legendary bands playing shows again, and I have no

664
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,079
idea where Faith No More sit in that I would

665
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,640
expect you're going to see them on one of these

666
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,640
big US festivals to start with. I think that that's

667
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
that is where it's likely to begin. They might they

668
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,279
or they will be doing a tour and that might

669
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:39,720
you know, stop a couple of dates and then oh,

670
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,960
they've also quickly here's more dates, you know, the rush

671
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,359
like model of like Consley adding dates as stuff sells out.

672
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:47,079
I mean to be that the size of it, I

673
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:51,000
would imagine big venues, maybe not like you know, the biggest,

674
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,359
most massive venues around, but could be arenas. I think

675
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,279
if the the wave of excitement for Faith and War

676
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,599
being absent for god knows how long now has kind

677
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,559
of like got people excited to see him again, i'd

678
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:02,960
expect that.

679
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is the stuff that I was I

680
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,200
was thinking about because a lot has changed in terms

681
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,839
of the numbers game, in the demographics of live music

682
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,559
since twenty twenty when these last Faith Nemore shows were

683
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
announced as taking place, right, it really feels like, you know,

684
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:21,079
post COVID, we have a whole different generation, a whole

685
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,319
wave of you know, fans and almost a different way

686
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,960
of looking at things because Faith Them are themselves already

687
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,960
have a kind of erratic history, where Like when Faith

688
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Them was first reunited in two thousand and nine, they

689
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:35,200
headlined download right and I don't think any obviously they

690
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680
didn't do that again throughout their you know, continued activity

691
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:39,759
in the twenty tens, even though they put out a

692
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,200
killer album in that time. But at the same time,

693
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:43,880
you know, in the twenty tens, I like the first

694
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
time I saw Faith Them More was in broad Daylight

695
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,799
because they were like halfway down the British summer time

696
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:52,319
bill that Black Sabbath headlined. Going into today, twenty twenty

697
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,039
seven were at this weird period where it's kind of

698
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,039
hard to gauge the size of many bands because there

699
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:59,160
are many bands who, like everyone is playing the co

700
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Op live, bands who you would never they open this,

701
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:02,960
you know, the biggest arena in the country in Manchester,

702
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
the CRP Life, bigger than the O two, and bands

703
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920
that you would never imagine filling the O two are

704
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,400
just booking that thing, fucking willy nearly like good Charlotte

705
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,400
booked it the other week, and it's like how are

706
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,160
we in a world where twenty twenty six good Charlotte

707
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,319
are booking the biggest arena in the country, like at

708
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,160
this level of their relevance or whatever. And then you

709
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,839
think about the nostalgia wave that comes in. I think

710
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:24,960
if we look at download for examples, obviously just happened,

711
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:29,200
are really you know, nineties into the noughties, new metal

712
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,680
themed download this year with Limb Biscuit finally headlining, and

713
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:35,559
you know, Linky Park obviously always big. But we've seen

714
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,440
this post, you know, kind of twenty twenty wave of

715
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,279
like these nineties bands and you mentioned Acid Bath, which

716
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,359
is a great example. All these bands have been like

717
00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:47,440
somehow inflated from where they were in the you know,

718
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,240
the twenty tens. But I agree, I have no idea

719
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,200
if Faith No More? Have that are Faith no More

720
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:56,559
at this stage like a as we say, I sort

721
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,440
of cult band for like art rock fans, or you know,

722
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,880
if you were to go around this download this past weekend,

723
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,000
around that Biscuit crowd to like people in their mid

724
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:09,240
to late twenties, do those people like Faith No More?

725
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:11,440
So it's really hard to gauge, like do they come

726
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,359
through and you know, book a fucking arenat all like

727
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
every band seems to do, or do they you know,

728
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:20,119
play it safe with the level they booked the last

729
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,960
time out, which was like Brixton level.

730
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: I just feel it's impossible to guess how big any

731
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,000
band is. Like if you showed me, h, if I

732
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,440
like you removed me from society and you're like, okay,

733
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,240
simple plan, how big are they? I would never be

734
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,119
like the biggest they've ever been, you know, like we

735
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,920
live in a culture and our word bands that just

736
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:44,920
willed themselves into being the biggest they've ever been. There

737
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,480
is a chance that, like it's impossible to predict, but

738
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,319
there is a possibility that there's enough people out there

739
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:57,519
who like Epic enough maybe that couldn't make faith no

740
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,480
more this big sensation event. Who knows, Like nostalgia is

741
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
a crazy thing. People will know Wepic, people will know

742
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,160
ashes to ashes like who knows.

743
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, genuinely, one of the hardest things to gauge about

744
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480
this entire thing. I think, really, before it happens, before

745
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,799
we have any you know, bookings ahead of us, no

746
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,240
idea really, but we do know that they are back

747
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,440
and playing shows, so fucking good news. Everyone celebrations because

748
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,279
we really did not think that was happening anytime soon.

749
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,759
New music this week comes from Cult of Luna. We

750
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,440
knew last week when we did the Hype Glass that

751
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960
they would have new stuff out, but we very shortly

752
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,960
got their new album announcement, which is called In the

753
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,279
Shadow of Your Shadow. It's going to be out on

754
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
November the sixth, which I believe is the day before

755
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,680
they headline Damnation Festival. So that is pretty perfect timing,

756
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,559
isn't it. And we have a track from out. It

757
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,039
is the title track of that album, and it feels

758
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,759
like it has been you know, a longer than average

759
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,440
weight for Cotta lunar Abs. I suppose about you know,

760
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,599
four and a half years or something like that, coming

761
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,839
up to Ideas, which is about the upper end of

762
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,720
the gap they tend to have between records. So I

763
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,079
was definitely looking forward to this. We don't just have

764
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
the return of one of the world's best bands this

765
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,720
week withoth from All, we have two because obviously Court

766
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,720
of Luna absolutely one of the greatest adorned Fear and

767
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,839
The Long Road North with the like Raging River in

768
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,359
between them felt like like those are complimentary, you know records.

769
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,119
That's kind of a little period, if you like. And

770
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,680
I wonder to what degree with this album we're sort

771
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,240
of jetting off somewhere new. I'm not sure exactly how

772
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:33,599
much this one single, you know, gives hints as to that,

773
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,759
unless it is into the crypt because this is a

774
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
necrotic Cult of Luna song.

775
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,079
Speaker 3: What the hell the vocals are the thing that ama.

776
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,160
I've been given the two listens and you know it's

777
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,839
in the eight minute, so it's going to take time

778
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,279
to unpack. But the immediate thing is that decaying, necrotic vocal.

779
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,519
The wait is like wretching, and like there's a bit

780
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,799
we like shouts as it's so just like rotted and evil.

781
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:05,240
I was like, I associate Colin as booming and earthy

782
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:07,640
and that, and there are some elements of that in

783
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,159
the sort the time of the band, but it has

784
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,760
just got a darker evil edge to it. And I

785
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960
was like, Okay, Colin, I kind of thought I knew

786
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,400
what your your whole deal was. You know, you kind

787
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,559
of feel like you set into being this doing this

788
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,000
that is absolutely amazing, like you know, absolutely titans of

789
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239
the kind of sludgy post melt thing. And they caught

790
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,639
me by surprise with this single.

791
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they sort of operate like one of their songs

792
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,039
where like it'll start familiar, like they this song is

793
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:40,679
quite familiar to Coluna. In parts there's a really interesting

794
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,440
cool beat. There's a really majestic yet unnerving synth that

795
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,000
floats the top the mountainous rifts and stuff. But then

796
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,239
something like that vocal that is crusty and dusty and

797
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,440
everything musty were coming and it's like, oh shit, okay,

798
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:02,320
we're creaking now. It's so for a band that old

799
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,320
and a band you know, this is what their tenth

800
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,760
or eleventh album. I sometimes you know you'd read forgiven

801
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,599
for being like you know, post metal. It can be

802
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:18,079
a bit tired, but they can just shift something, shift

803
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,400
a tiny little thing and make it exciting and new.

804
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,039
And I think that's really cool. As for the record,

805
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:28,320
who knows it could Like, I mean, I hope it's good.

806
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,480
I mean, their last record is probably my favorite one

807
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:33,280
they've ever done. Like I'm excited.

808
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is really weting my appetite and

809
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,440
where I'm like, I do hope this record is particularly evil,

810
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,119
like if you presented me here's a new cut of

811
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,320
Lunar record it's just gonna be, as you put it,

812
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,280
mustier and dustier than usual. But like, yeah, gimmey, because

813
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,119
we're talking about Cult of Lune here, right. Johannas has

814
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,039
always had one of the heaviest voices in the entirety

815
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:54,880
of heavy new music really, So it's not like, oh,

816
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,440
you know, this is Dashball Confessional and they've included a growl. Right,

817
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,039
we all were already talking about a band who vocally

818
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960
were fucking heavy. But what he's doing here to begin with,

819
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,960
he kind of sounds likenurgyle like it's really like guttural,

820
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,599
super like stretching those vocal cords to be more like

821
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,960
slimy and horrid. And that hook you mentioned sand which

822
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,519
is like that you are nothing kind of but it's

823
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,280
like it's really like domineering in a nasty, slimy kind

824
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,159
of way. And he has always had such a powerful voice,

825
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,199
but this sounds like the reanimated, undead husk of Johanna's

826
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,320
person on this new Cotalunar record, and that as one

827
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,280
element alone makes you go like, oh yeah, I'm looking

828
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,920
forward to see what the rest of this dials up.

829
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,199
But the song itself, you know, with like I said,

830
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,199
the building rhythms and stuff. The col Luna are always

831
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,800
so maskedful with is is great anyway. So November the sixth,

832
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,119
like I said, the day before Damnation Festival, where their

833
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,599
headline one of the most anticipated heavy extreme records of

834
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,360
the last sort of six months of this year coming up.

835
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:57,519
There was also a new track, bizarrely from Sleep, but

836
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:01,440
out just now Sleep. It's their first new music in

837
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,960
eight years. They put out the Sciences Comeback album in

838
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,679
twenty eighteen and it was a really you know, well liked,

839
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,519
well received, well reviewed return record, and then they played

840
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,599
shows on different stuff and then Sleep seemed to die away.

841
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,840
The most recent news we've heard before this is that

842
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,360
Jason Roder, who is the drummer of Neurosis but was

843
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,559
playing for Sleep during their reunion era, he was, you know,

844
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,880
let go from the band, and then that was when

845
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,639
he like said that he basically retired from music until surprise,

846
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,519
Neurosis are back, and I guess he's back where he

847
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,159
should be. But that was the last thing we heard

848
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,440
from Sleep. Now they're back with a new song, and

849
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:34,800
fucking Matt Pike isn't in the band, Like it's just

850
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,559
of the you know core Sleep guys, it's just Al

851
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,480
Cisneros on this. Matt Pike is not there. It said

852
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,920
they brought in a guy called Bubba Dupree, who is

853
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,559
of the d C hardcore band Void, and then Dale

854
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,119
Krover from the Melvins has taken the drumming position from

855
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,119
Jason Roader, who is another you know, legendary all time

856
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,599
iconic kind of you know, underground experimental music drummer. So

857
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,599
that's a good pick, of course, But I can't get

858
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,039
my head around the idea of Sleep without Matt Pike,

859
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,840
Like that's that's the guy, that's the riff guy, and

860
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,679
that's not to you know, mutes al sist and Ross's

861
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,280
contribution to Sleep because he's absolutely seminal as you know,

862
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,000
the voice of that band as well. But like we

863
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,000
had Ohm, which was al Sister Ross's own band that

864
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,440
he did for years after Sleep initially broke up, like

865
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,320
we've had undiluted al Siston Ross. I do not know

866
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,920
in what world they can come back without the most legendary,

867
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,119
arguably stone a doom guitarist of all time. When they

868
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:31,719
are the stoner doom band, and this track it does

869
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,599
you know, it's like four minutes long. It does kind

870
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:36,000
of groove like one of the shorter Sleep songs more

871
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,000
than it does like a you know, ten minute droning

872
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,840
Ohm song or something. I like the synths on it,

873
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,480
but the guitars are a little bit more you know,

874
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,639
pulled back than you would expect from big roaring, you know,

875
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:50,960
Matt Pike guitars in Sleep and Sleep have got to

876
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,360
be a strictly twenty nine toes band, like you've got

877
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,079
to have three members with a quota of twenty nine

878
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:59,239
toes between them, and there they are over that right now.

879
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,039
So I do not This just does not feel Maybe

880
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,840
they'll put out record and be amazing, I don't know,

881
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,199
but it does not feel apt or right doing Sleep

882
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,880
with only one of those core guys and losing Matt Pikes.

883
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,719
That's really bizarre. We do have a new pair of

884
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,400
songs as well, from Brand of Sacrifice. That's their first

885
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000
new songs in twenty twenty three. I remember they put

886
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,519
an EP I think it was then. I it didn't

887
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,320
really take up any brains space for me for whatever reason.

888
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,000
But the record before that, Life Blood in twenty twenty one,

889
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,199
I think is one of the better like modern you know,

890
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,079
new wave Death Corps Records and Mark I think you

891
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:38,039
are the biggest overall Brand of Sacrifice acolytes amongst us,

892
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:39,199
so I threw these in for you. What do you

893
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,000
make of the new Brand of Sacrifice tracks?

894
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,119
Speaker 2: I think they're all right. I am a bit you know,

895
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,119
I'm a big Brand of Sacrifice fan because I'm sort

896
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,880
of burnt out on modern death core. Yeah, a bit

897
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,800
too as I know, generic for me, I guess. But

898
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,519
Brand of Sacrifice are really exciting because they're fucked up

899
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,800
and they're full of energy and ideas. These songs are

900
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,400
pretty good, you know, they're not quite as frantic or

901
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,760
I don't know, laser noise infused as you'd want. But

902
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Seeing Red, the first track has a pretty decent, like

903
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:23,239
powerful chorus in a sort of White Chapel or Endless

904
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,079
War kind of way, like when they start to bring

905
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,000
in choruses. It's a bit like that, and I quite

906
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:31,960
like that vibe. And then it does the breakdown for

907
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,559
all the reaction channels.

908
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of my impression as well. Like

909
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,800
the first track, Seeing Read, you press play on it

910
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400
and there's no mucking about, like it's really straight in

911
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:48,599
with Obviously, it's very much produced like modern day super

912
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:51,400
fucking cybernetic Death Corps, which is a big part of

913
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Brand of Sacrifice identity because they were one of the

914
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:56,039
most like electronic leaning, you know ones of those bands.

915
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:58,920
But the actual like rhythm and sensation of it reminded

916
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,119
me more of like an old death core sensibility. Like

917
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,519
it reminded me of like Whitechapel and Suicide Silence and

918
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,760
these type bands. It feels like there are less of

919
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
the you know, rave synth hooks and stuff that they

920
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,719
had on life Blog, which is kind of what it

921
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,400
felt that made that record feel fresh to me. And

922
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,800
it does feel more like a you know, stupid fucking

923
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,800
futuristic tank modern style production job, but on some older

924
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,480
death core sensibilities, you know what I mean. And I'm

925
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
notce soarily adverse to that, It just it did surprise me.

926
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to have it. I love

927
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,320
I love old school death cores. But like when it

928
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,599
gets to the second track, which is basically an atmospheric

929
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,079
track with a beatdown at the end, Okay, there's something

930
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:46,159
interesting here. Yeah, this is a bit different. There's something

931
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,760
cavernous about this that you don't hear a lot in

932
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,800
modern death cores, So that's kind of cool.

933
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, scond track, Okay, you're just trying to be a

934
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,840
bit different from just doing the symphonic, overdriven, blusterous death

935
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,880
cord that I've grown quite numb to at this point

936
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000
because it's just like all of these bands sound so

937
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,199
big and movastive bits so like pushing that during the

938
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:10,920
max that nothing stands out in the more. I think

939
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,599
Brand Sacrifice they're they're they're closing on that, but then

940
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:17,480
they're Dey're ferying just enough ideas to not become totally

941
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,679
like phaseless and generic. I think these two songs are decent.

942
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400
I'm not again, I think Live blood Bound is the

943
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239
best when they've done, and I'm not blown away by

944
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
these And again with the one definite thing like this

945
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,239
cup bands are really like psycho frame the stuff that's

946
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,679
kind of throwing back a little bit. And that's why

947
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,719
I think this one Brand Zac they kind of get

948
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,239
the balance of the kind of modern hyperthesise production thing

949
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,800
with this sort of stinky old till death core things.

950
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,639
So yeah, I think this TRAC's call.

951
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, as it was, of course, download this weekend we

952
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,039
have the typical wave of post download show and tour announcements,

953
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,239
So we'll go through a couple of those here. First

954
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
up Iceman Kills, who I know were one of the

955
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:54,400
most spoken about and seen I suppose bands at download first,

956
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,599
which maybe feeds into this announcement. They have announced not

957
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,280
a tour, but just one show in London next year,

958
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:03,000
March the twenty eighth. They're playing the Two Arena.

959
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:06,079
Speaker 3: I mean, they did Wembley on the tour, and I

960
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:07,559
know they did the carb on that tour, didn't they

961
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,519
like they so they did like it. If the cold

962
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:12,239
one of those things that's really variable in how much

963
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,039
of it they'll open up for bands like I.

964
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Like, I think so yeah, I think I've definitely seen

965
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,880
some shows where it's only been you know, the lower

966
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,880
level of it open and then somewhere it's open up

967
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,400
the whole thing. And I can't remember exactly what that

968
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,360
was for Eisnein Kills. I would imagine, you know, a

969
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,119
certain level of.

970
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: It was you know, not not not filled out, but

971
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,280
because that was an upgrade, yeah, it was never intended

972
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,960
to because.

973
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing they were playing. I think it might

974
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:35,199
have been the Victoria Warehouse they were initially booked for

975
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,199
and then they like completely leapfrogged the other arena that's

976
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,079
in Manchester and went straight into the coal And when

977
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,920
they did that it felt like almost bets are off thing, Like,

978
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,480
you know, we knew that Icene Kills were a band

979
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,960
who were growing a lot in popularity, and when they

980
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,480
put the Victoria Warehouse, which is sort of like a

981
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:50,400
Brixtonish equivalent, it felt like, yeah, okay, like you're you know,

982
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,559
you're filling some big venues. When they very suddenly went

983
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,920
from that to as I said earlier, the biggest arena

984
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,760
in the UK, it felt like, okay, like this, you know,

985
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,239
the the line goes up on this graph is going

986
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,119
like way beyond what we even had sort of adjusted

987
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:05,960
ourselves to being. So with that in mind, I'm not

988
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,760
surprised to see them do the O two here. And

989
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,519
considering how again the bands of their the back of

990
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:14,360
download yeah, bands of their ILK, this kind of popular

991
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,000
new wave of metal core is obviously one of the

992
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,239
most dominant, you know, popular amongst younger people types of

993
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,840
heady music there is. I think they'll do. I think

994
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,280
they'll smash it. I think they'll do really well. I

995
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,599
mean I can test that on that tour they were

996
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,880
the show was fucking brilliant. But just in terms of

997
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:29,079
you know, I don't think this is over ambitious for

998
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:30,679
as all I think this is they've they've judged this

999
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,320
quite well as like, yeah, we're we're gonna do an

1000
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,000
O two ston now.

1001
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: Well, I think the factor as well that that does

1002
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,559
happend a lot of more milk bands is they have

1003
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,480
an audience outside of metal. I know people who don't

1004
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,199
like metal and milkcore, who like Icenine Kilsy, like horror,

1005
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,760
and they you know, they've seen Ready or Not and

1006
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,440
the Rish screen movie that watched them by Home that

1007
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,119
Ice like Ill did songs for and like again we

1008
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:52,639
want of like those movies as songs. But this is

1009
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:55,639
things that's getting Ice nine kills traction outside of a

1010
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,320
typical metal audience. And that's why they've got you know,

1011
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,679
terrified fans love them because they've done so many different

1012
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,719
types of terrified collabs at this point that they're so

1013
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,360
like Ubisis of horror that they would appeal to melt fans.

1014
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,840
They'll appear to the younger metical crowd and horror fans.

1015
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:13,920
So that's why I think they can comfort in these

1016
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,679
biger venues now.

1017
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though like they haven't released a record in

1018
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,000
five years. This is all based on singles that they're

1019
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,960
they've doubled in size, tribled in size, which is really

1020
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,360
weird but really commendable, like good for them. Just the

1021
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,559
strength of like the Terrifier song or whatever, and their

1022
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,679
whole deal as a band is so alluring that without

1023
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,840
actually having a full album with material, they're just they've

1024
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,440
become an arena band, which is mad like good for them,

1025
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:53,679
and the show will be amazing. They put so much

1026
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,400
effort into their show. I just it's it's really cool.

1027
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,079
Speaker 1: But new album please, yeah, that would be good. We

1028
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:06,159
also have eistein Kill's tour mates from that last UK

1029
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,639
run Creeper, who I know, played two sets at Downlo

1030
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,320
this weekend. They've announced a headline tour of next year. Obviously,

1031
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,039
the last headline tour they did in the UK was

1032
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,280
the really small, entirely sangle with or themed one that

1033
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,800
I went to a couple of months ago and spoke

1034
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,679
about on the show. This is then returning to some

1035
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,239
larger venues. They're playing Cardiff, London, Manchester and Glasgow. They've

1036
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,920
got Calvi, Luise and Starve Benders in support. I haven't

1037
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,000
heard Starbenders in like a little while. That's a name

1038
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:34,400
I haven't thought about unto whethers should be on this tour, said,

1039
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,320
the Amorphous tour makes much more sense for them to

1040
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,280
go and pick up some fans here.

1041
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: But there you go.

1042
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:41,679
Speaker 1: Creepers show it download like obviously you know, last all them,

1043
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,239
I said, in smaller venues where they didn't have the

1044
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,960
full show download, they were doing fucking on stage beheadings

1045
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,400
and stuff like that. So I imagine. Yeah, so I

1046
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,440
think that this is going to be a more theatrical leaning,

1047
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,599
you know, pulling out the stops creeper tour, which, if

1048
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,159
that is the kind of creeper tour that you know,

1049
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,840
drags in your fancy for where you want to see them,

1050
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,519
that sounds cool.

1051
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: Did they support Alice Scrooper before.

1052
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: That rings a bell? Yeah?

1053
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean fair play. They've become the beheader. I

1054
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,320
didn't you said they got beheaded on stage and I

1055
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,920
was like, WHOA, I didn't hear about that because I

1056
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,079
was busy watching architects.

1057
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: For Yeah, maybe less on that. Muse have announced a

1058
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,119
European and also includes some UK headline shows for their

1059
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,760
record The Wow signal which does cut out next week.

1060
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,760
Everyone their UK shows right now, It's not too many

1061
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,400
of them. They've got two dates at the carp Life

1062
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:34,039
in Manchester and two dates at the Two in London.

1063
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,119
Palyithia have announced a whole bunch of shows, including a

1064
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:41,920
UK run, and this caught my eye because Perturbator, I

1065
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:45,280
believe is the UK support act for Prolifia. That I

1066
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,159
am not a Prolifia guy at all, but at least

1067
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:51,159
Perturbator is there. Ceremony, let's jump over to the US

1068
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:55,400
announcements now. Ceremony have announced their first album in seven years.

1069
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,239
They have got a US run for it right now.

1070
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,199
But Sam, I I know that Ceremony are like a

1071
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,760
sort of odd and off band in the hardcore world.

1072
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,440
I suppose do you have a you know, particular interest

1073
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,119
in ceremonies first record in you know, coming up to

1074
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:10,559
a decade.

1075
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: I think in the in the last couple ye Ceremony

1076
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,800
becomes such an influential and important.

1077
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: I think they're so risen in the last couple of years.

1078
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: It's just shut up they are. They've become like such

1079
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,199
a bubblishing amount of bands who cover curse now by

1080
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,280
Ceremony like it's just those songs that bands will put

1081
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,280
it out because they've got a park band and they

1082
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,320
kind of moved into more kind of like post punk

1083
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,239
and kind of different territories, and they still seem to

1084
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,519
be adored by the hardcore card. You will get like

1085
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,320
the tough guy Mosher's absolutely losing it to Ceremony, and

1086
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,639
that they're they're not your typical hardcore band. They're so

1087
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,320
different and they've become just such like revered, important, looked

1088
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,719
up to bands. You know that they're very outspoken about

1089
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,360
what they believe in it and that they will talk

1090
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,440
about the stuff of their shows on their albums, And

1091
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,440
so I think now is the right time for Ceremony

1092
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:56,599
to sort of resert themselves with a new album. I

1093
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:58,360
think these new songs are really cool, just kind of

1094
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,599
like rowdy, shouty punk songs, but with a kind of

1095
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,480
like again a little bit of that post punk kind

1096
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,039
of like thing to it. I think I'm very excited

1097
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,599
about the prospect of like Ceremony kind of really sort

1098
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,679
of coming back as an active prospect, doing hopefully more

1099
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,639
tours with the ab and all that.

1100
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, the track that i'd heard from from this it

1101
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,559
has that like sort of you know, recent post punk

1102
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,199
edge that I understand is kind of where they have

1103
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,039
been dabbling a little bit, but also reminded me of

1104
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:25,320
a little bit of some of the sort of recent

1105
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,199
OI stuff that we've got to be talking about on

1106
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,320
the like.

1107
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 3: The oil sort of thing that that chorus, it's very

1108
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,880
boisterously in your face and kind of barging you about.

1109
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,199
But again the real like driven political like expression to it.

1110
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that record will be come in later in

1111
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,119
the year. Also us tour wise, Dying Wish and Gariea

1112
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,400
are both going out on tour supporting Imminence. I cannot

1113
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,119
for the life we remember which one Imminence is. I

1114
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:53,239
know there's Imminence, Thrown and thorn Hill and all of

1115
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,880
these bands who are completely changeable in the one with.

1116
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: The violin, I know that much. But they are one

1117
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,400
of those just kind of modern medical band that they're

1118
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:01,840
just different that they have a violin.

1119
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know Dying Wish, you know, kind of

1120
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,800
crossover a little bit in terms of fan base some

1121
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,079
of those gar Aria going out as the opening activity

1122
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,880
is unbelievable in it the album is where they belong now, Yeah,

1123
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:17,639
I know, but if you top a couple years ago

1124
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,320
just them into Dying Wish was a show and I'd

1125
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,679
been like, what do you mean? But there you go, Uh,

1126
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,400
Saboton tour. Why is this court myy? I believe they

1127
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,559
do have a couple of other UK dates added as well,

1128
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,199
like not the I think it's like some cities they

1129
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,199
weren't playing when they went through last year when I

1130
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:33,119
saw them something that's got a Glasgow show and maybe

1131
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,719
a couple others as well. But they have announced what

1132
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,440
I think is twenty one dates I think in just Sweden,

1133
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,320
which is I mean for the Swedish heads out there

1134
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,159
who are also you know, amongst the continue to our

1135
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:47,480
audience who like Saboton, which I know is not everyone,

1136
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:50,840
but I mean that's some Saboton being that enormous in

1137
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,239
their home country they can just do that. What is

1138
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,159
essentially like a full EU sized tour for most bands,

1139
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:59,519
just going up and down Sweden is pretty incredible. So

1140
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,880
there they go. And the final piece of news this

1141
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,519
week is Mike Mangini, the you know drum god essentially

1142
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,280
who until recently, with Mike Portnoy's return, was playing drums

1143
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,679
for about a decade of Dream Theater's output. He's joined

1144
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,199
the band god Smack, which is the most incredible case

1145
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,599
of being overqualified for the position I have seen in

1146
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,639
some time. I'm going to link this into We just

1147
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,960
recorded part three of the Corn Special and we were

1148
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,480
speaking a little bit about how on the untitled record

1149
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,280
they had a former Frank Zappa drummer Terry Bozio performing

1150
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,719
the session drums on it, and it was a bit

1151
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,760
of a scenario where Terry Bozio seems to want to

1152
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,159
join Corn full time. We were like, why are you doing?

1153
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:45,239
You played with Frank Zappa and Captain Beefha. You do

1154
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,559
not want to go out playing Corn songs at the

1155
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,400
age of seventy every fucking night. Mike Mangini is now

1156
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,320
living that reality. I think he's he's taking that position

1157
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,400
in playing for Godsmack. So I don't know if you're

1158
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:59,079
if you're seeing Godsmack anytime soon, let us know how

1159
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:01,760
he is. As I have just thrown there and quite

1160
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,639
expertly segued on the Patreon this week, the big deal

1161
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,960
here is we, as I just said, we have put out,

1162
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,840
recorded and released the third part of our ongoing band

1163
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,559
retrospective special on Corn. Myself, Mark and Elliott have been going, well,

1164
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:19,280
Sound's been away. We've been going through the entire catalog

1165
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,880
of the band who changed metal forever in their own

1166
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,480
special way. And this period is the most erratic part.

1167
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,599
Like we have been talking about how utterly bonkers and

1168
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,480
bowld the swings are from record to record here, whether

1169
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:37,480
they work or not, this is kind of you know,

1170
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:40,119
our task with this particular part of this special is

1171
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:42,800
to go in, you know, unroot all of this stuff

1172
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,760
and be like, can we find the gems? Like how

1173
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,159
much of this stuff is actually like good? And is

1174
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,039
of you know, how much the stuff really adds to

1175
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,239
the legacy of Corn. But some of these records are

1176
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,119
records that people never ever stop to think or talk about.

1177
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:01,039
And the sheer wild hop from album to album in

1178
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,039
the approach and the style who they're working with, what

1179
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:06,639
they're aiming to do is one of the you know,

1180
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,159
it's the broadest swinging from side to side parts of

1181
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any band special we've ever done.

1182
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from a band who often get labeled as just

1183
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,000
doing the same thing over and over, sounding the same,

1184
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,800
having the same riffs over and over, these four records

1185
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,079
are really different, and some of them even get painted

1186
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,760
with the brush that doesn't represent them at all. Some

1187
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,000
of these records have a lot more going on than

1188
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,440
people give them credit, and there's some really interesting stuff

1189
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,880
in here. And also I got to fulfill a decade

1190
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of talking about dubstehip on this podcast.

1191
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,599
Speaker 1: Yes, because this is the part that starts with the

1192
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,239
album See You on the Other Side, and it does

1193
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,039
go up to and include Korn's scrill ex collaborating dubstep

1194
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,280
album The Path of Totality, which I know that that

1195
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,280
in particular, there are some abs as part which again

1196
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,480
people never think to talk about, and that was really

1197
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,079
interesting to get into and actually talk about those records.

1198
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But the Path of Totality in particular is an album

1199
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that I know that there are people in our audience

1200
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,960
who have been asking us to talk about that record

1201
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:11,880
for a long long time. So I was always saving

1202
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,320
it for like when we do the Corn Special. So

1203
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,440
here we are that time was arrived. We've ended it

1204
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:18,159
in dubstep Land, and in you know, a couple of

1205
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:20,960
weeks time in July, we will end it all and

1206
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:23,519
will end the Corn Special with the final part bring

1207
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:25,639
us up to speed all that. But this week, right now,

1208
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,519
the topic of conversation is the sort of mid noughties

1209
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,039
into the early twenty tens period when experimentation was all

1210
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:35,440
the rage. We talk about the unplugged album and if

1211
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,599
that's not enough, you know in petis to get involved

1212
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:40,119
with this, I don't know what is so patron dot

1213
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com slash dot that's not metal is the play to

1214
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,480
hear all of the parts of that special of course,

1215
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:46,760
with all of the other specials we've ever done. Let's

1216
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,280
finish this releases this week, very quiet week. We've had

1217
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a few very busy weeks at the end of May

1218
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,639
and into the beginning of June. This is a really

1219
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,559
quiet one. Not too many records to speak of. There

1220
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,360
are I would say, at least one of the most anticipated,

1221
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,599
you know, in their world, records of the year. Just

1222
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maybe it's not quantity this time. Obviously. The one that

1223
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,039
I'm referring to there is the new album from Warning,

1224
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,840
Rituals of Shame the Doom Metal Icons, the first album

1225
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
in twenty years, the follow up to one of the

1226
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,840
most untouchable doom records ever made, Warning from a Distance.

1227
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,400
That record, Rituals of Shame, at record that many people

1228
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,079
never thought would exist, is now out in the world.

1229
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,440
Then are going to hop over to the world of

1230
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,360
sort of artsy hardcore. I suppose as a band called

1231
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,599
There Were Wires, who are a sort of you know,

1232
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,119
early two thousand's Botch esque perhaps, you know, that kind

1233
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:42,079
of world of like hydra Head Records e hardcore who

1234
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:44,280
have also like those bands like Botch, like day Guy whatever.

1235
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,079
They have reunited and they put out a record here

1236
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,039
that you know, I think reflects that kind of change

1237
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,079
of time and maturity and stuff. Elements of post metal

1238
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,039
a lot in that record as well, that kind of

1239
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:55,320
vein of world. So if you're looking for someone like that,

1240
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:57,280
then there you go. Then there is a band called

1241
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,280
chain Lacing who are a sort of like a dark,

1242
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,920
wavy dream pop type band I suppose, like you know,

1243
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,880
the darker side of dreamy asset electronics and that kind

1244
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,840
of thing. Chain Lacing. Their record is called Messuage. Then

1245
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,000
in the heavy metal world, on Dying Victims Productions, one

1246
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,440
of the you know labels that is constantly producing bands

1247
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:18,079
like this, has a band called Iron Cobra with a K.

1248
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:21,039
The album called Eternal Dagger, and this caught my eye

1249
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:22,920
and had to go in the round up because it

1250
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:26,400
has a typically crazy heavy metal revivalist album cover with

1251
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,559
a like woman holding like a space Reagan riding a

1252
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:33,239
tiger in space, and I think that exactly conveys to

1253
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,480
you the vibe of the record. So go into finding

1254
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:37,440
that there's a couple of records from the black metal world.

1255
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,000
This one it's of an extreme metal record I believe

1256
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,880
from America, but with themes and aesthetic very much based

1257
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,840
in like Jy horror and nineties and naughties, you know,

1258
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,880
Japanese horror, a setic and stuff like that. The band

1259
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,800
are called Saidan and the record is called Fang Driller

1260
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:55,639
Colon Scars Beneath Memory's Wrist. But there you go more

1261
00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:58,840
straightfor forward to describe the Norwegian black metal band Mauk

1262
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,119
has got his latest record. It's a what primarily one

1263
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:05,960
man project called Monolit. Then in the Viking side of

1264
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,239
that world, the Viking metal, there's ein Hersier with life Blood,

1265
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:12,519
and then finally this week there is a record under

1266
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,960
the named Liminal Sky, which is the project of Jamie

1267
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,280
Gomez Arellano, who is one of the great kind of

1268
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,159
extreme metal producers. I suppose, like the last twenty years,

1269
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:26,280
like if you follow the worlds of like particularly European

1270
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,119
like you know, doom or Gothic metal or anything like

1271
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:29,960
that that no doubt you will have heard and loved

1272
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,960
a record produced by that guy. But his own project,

1273
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:33,760
Liminal Sky, has got a record out is kind of

1274
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,639
sort of post rock leaning, I guess from the little

1275
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:37,679
bits i've you know, dabbled into it. But it has

1276
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,480
some guest vocalists on, including some of the busiest people

1277
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:43,679
who are never far away from the guest vocal world.

1278
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,199
Matt McNerney from Beast Milk, Scorpion, Milk, et cetera and

1279
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:50,119
Christopher Rigg Garm from Ulva both getting involved with this,

1280
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:51,639
and I'm sure maybe some others as well. I haven't

1281
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:53,440
yet heard, but I'll check that out. That record. Those

1282
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,119
are records I've got for you this week. Like I said,

1283
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,920
not a really really large amount, really very little, seemingly

1284
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,239
coming from some you know, often very productive areas of

1285
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,159
the metal spectrum, but there you go. Certainly the Warning

1286
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:05,800
Record is one to write home about this particular week,

1287
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,400
and we will be back next week. I think next

1288
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,840
week will be our review show for this month. We'll

1289
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,639
talk about the Warning Record, of course, but we'll also

1290
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,000
talk about some of the other really big names that

1291
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,639
we haven't got around to in the last couple of weeks.

1292
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,920
Bands like obviously Converge put our second one. We have

1293
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,480
to get unto the Marmosett's record. Sam is obviously rejoining

1294
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:23,599
us for this one, so we're going to cover again

1295
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:25,239
some of the some of the names of that kind

1296
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:27,679
of world that we haven't yet got into. Butts, that

1297
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,320
is where we will be next week, and in the

1298
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meantime there at the corn special over on the patron

1299
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If you to get involved with you so please, So

1300
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cheers to everybody who goes and does that. Cheers for

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everybody who joins us next week. We'll be back by