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back to the Pekanana Show. I want to introduce you
to Constantine von Hoffmeister. How are you doing, Constantine, pretty good.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for inviting me to a show.
I'm really happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh, no problem. Why don't you tell everybody a little
bit about yourself?
Speaker 2: Also, I'm concerning from Hoffmeis. Currently I'm the editor in
chief at Arctos. Arctos has been around since two thousand
and nine and is the pre eminent publisher in the
English language of I would say new right and traditionalist literature.
I mean we published books by Giamphi, Julius Evola, I
mean the classics, also new books by Alexander Dugin and
various other new right authors. Also translations from French like
Dominic Vine for example. And currently I live in Germany,
but I've pretty much lived all over the place. Like
I left Germany when I was fifteen. Then I lived
in the US for two years, went to high school
in Arizona. Later I went to college in New Orleans.
I lived in New Orleans for seven years. Participated in
Civil War enactments on battlefields all over the South, like Mississippi, Alabama, Florida,
I mean all over England and Gettysburg when we participated,
so there was quite an exhilarating experience. Yeah, and then
also with in India for three years. I was working
for English language newspapers, like writing travel reports and interviewing
various illustrious people, including the Dalai Lama, who was in
New Delhi at one point giving a speech about the
spiritual relationship between India and Tibet. Because we all know
that Prince Satartha, he came from India and brought Buddhism
to Tibet. Even managed to ask him some questions. I
was quite amazed, actually that Daala Lama speaks with an
impeccable Oxford accent, so that was quite surprising. But a
very nice guy, I suppose. Yeah, And then yeah, traveled
extensively in India and the other parts of Asia. Yeah.
Then I lived in Moscow also for twelve years, where
I worked as a I would say business trainer, where
I was teaching various managers and directors of international and
Russian companies. I know how to write proper reports and
emails and give presentations stuff like that, creative stuff. Mostly
in between, I lived in Uzbekistan also for a year
in Tushkent as an elementary school teacher. So I was
a third grade class teacher at a British private elementary
school owned by Turkish people in the capital city of Tashkent.
So that was a very interesting experience. I was eighteen
years ago, so I turned thirty when I was in
tush Kent. I'm forty eight years old now. It was
an interesting experience because so my class consisted of about
I'm twenty students. Half of my students were sons and
daughters of different I mean ministers from the uzbek government,
and the other half were sons and daughters of different diplomats,
like people who were part of the embassy staff in Tashkent.
But one girl in my class, she was a granddaughter
of the President of Uzbekistan, whose name was Islam kut
him Off I mean he died a couple of years ago,
but he was very much alive when I was a
teacher there. And his daughter, meaning the mother of my student.
She was also the owner of the most exclusive nightclub
in Tashkent called Kata Komba, and coincidentally, this night club
was in the same street where I had my apartment.
So on the weekends I would often frequent that place
and I would always be immediately invited to the VIP
lounge and get all the cocktails for free because I
was I was a teacher of the owner's daughter, right,
so I had privileges. I was also often invited to
the President's palace from diplomatic functions. So it was a
very interesting time. Yeah. Also in Moscow, I had a
lot of interesting experiences. I became acquainted with Alexander Dugin. Yeah,
about twenty years ago, in two thousand and five. Alexander
Dugin at that time was not as well known as
he is now, right, because I mean now he's mainstream
in my opinion, especially in Russia, like he now is
his own show and like the prime time TV channels
and real mainstream newspapers, regular columns and everything. I mean,
it has a lot to do with the fact that
his daughter was murdered. That really put him on the map.
It's a very I mean tragic circumstances. In two thousand
and five, he was fairly unknown. I mean in the
West he was completely unknown, and in Russia he was
virtually unknown. He was completely fringe. But I had this
American friend who was working for DO in Moscow at
the time. He was doing the English He was managing
the English translation of Dougin's website, the Jivrazia the Eurasian website,
and Dugan planned to had planned to organize a conference
like a founding conference of the Eurasianist youth movement in
the city of Alexandrov, which is maybe two hours from Moscow.
The city of Alexandrov is not as big as Moscow obviously,
so it's more like a town, I would say, but
it also has a kremlin. And Ivan Krosny, more famously
known in the West as Ivan the Terrible, ruled from
Alexandrov for a period of time. I don't exactly remember
the historical circumstances why, but he ruled not from Moscow
but moved his core to the Kremlin and Alexandrov. And
Alexander Dugin organized his conference in the throne room of
Ivan the Terrible, So all the speakers were standing in
front of the throne where Ivan used to sit, and
behind the throne they had put up a screen where
they were playing Sadgie Eisenstein's silent movie Ivan Krasny about
Ivan the Terrible without sound, just as a background, you know,
for the atmosphere. And my American friend he gave us.
He was invited to give a speech at this conference
because because Alexander Dugin wanted it to make it more international,
like international speakers as well. And this American friend told
Dugin about me, so I was also invited to speak
because I'm a German speaker. So two international guests. So
I actually spoke there. I mean there's still pictures of it.
So that was a very good experience, speaking in Ivan,
the terriblest throne throne room. Yeah, and I met a
lot of other interesting people in Moscow, its fascinating city.
Traveled all over the country, met my wife in Russia. Yeah,
so excellent times. And yeah, now back in Germany for
personal reasons, I mean moved back here a couple of
years ago. I'm not sure how long we'll stay, but
we'll see.
Speaker 1: How did you get into like new write literature Fei
and Julius Avla, How how did that enter your life?
Speaker 2: Well, that was in New Orleans in two thousand and one.
As a matter of fact, like before that, I was
a complete liberal basically, I mean I was apolitical so
to speak. And yeah I was. I was interested in
like modern art, like abstract expressionism. I was a big
fan Jackson Pollock and my favorite art ist Si Twombly
and the dataist movement, the Surrealist movement, especially poetry, and
I wrote a lot of poetry at the time, so
I was obsessed with Also the French symbolists like Artur Rambau,
Charles Bodlea and Paul Verlaine. All these people fascinated me.
And also the Beatniks, right, I was a big Beatnik fan.
When I mean that's I mean I before sorry, before
I the New Orleans I forgot to mention. Also went
to college in New Hampshire for a year for two
semesters to Keen State College. The movie Jumanji with Robin
Williams was filmed in Keen while I lived there, so
I saw the filming on main Street. Just a little anecdote,
but yeah, there I got into like the sort of
hippie crowd, you know, the people who listened to like Pink,
Floyd and Fish. You know, was really big at the time.
So I had the bell bottoms, I still had long hair,
had three earrings, you know, like the seventies style shirts
with a huge collar, all that stuff. So also you know,
hung out with these people doing what they do, you know,
and reading all like the Beatnic stuff like Jack Krak,
William Burrows, Alan Ginsburger always detested I never liked him.
I always thought it was really creepy and this poetry
pretty shitty, to be honest. I was always a big
fan of Karak. That really appealed to me, this free
spirit and traveling all over the pl place while philosophying
about life, death and everything else. And William Burrow's fastinetymy
because of his experimental writing style, because he invented the
cut up method. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that,
are you, Pete.
Speaker 1: The cut up method is emmy And is it where
every the story is disjointed?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, the yeah, well sort of. It was actually
invented I think originally Patristaan Sarda, one of the founders
of the of the data movement in the nineteen twenties
in Switzerland. So basically what he did, Tristan Sara did
he took a newspaper article and he just cut it
up basically into fragments, the sentences, and he put them
all into a hat and then he would pull them
out at random and piece them together and create i mean,
poetry out of this basically. And William Burrow's basically perfected
this method by writing whole novels, which are based constructed
out of extracts from other people's work basically, so by
cutting them up basically or like Shakespeare or Lord Byron
and contemporary journal articles, and he would just piece them
together to create like new, whole new texts. And I
found this quite fascinating, so I was totally into it,
and still when I lived in New Orleans in two
thousand and one, I mean, the internet was fairly new
at the time I saw, and I didn't have a
computer and smartphones didn't exist, so you always had to
go to the university library and there was a big,
big room at the University of New Orleans where all
the students would sit like in front of computers, and
it would always be people sitting next to you on
the left and the right. And yeah, I would just
do like I mean, you were supposed to do it
for school research, but I would just use it for
fun mostly, and you could print out for free, like
nobody cared. Like I probably printed out thousands of pages
of like articles and stuff, and it just came across
like these nationalist websites. I mean, I said, like William
Pierre's National Alliance, for example, right, was really really still
big at the time two thousand and one, so I
became really fascinated with it for some reason. It's just
just my I guess it's somehow connected to my artistic sensibilities,
like this whole idea of identity, which I had never
considered before, that you could view yourself as part of
something bigger. And this emptity is race or ethnicity also
has a mythical aspect that transcends mere materialism. And that's
also how I got into evil, I guess, because there
were a lot of links in these websites and then
I mean it was sort of like they say, down
the rabbit hole, right, and there was like a whole
maze with different tunnels that it would traverse learn more
and more about these things. And that started really in
August two thousand and one, so like one month before
nine to eleven, right, And there was a website called
European American Student Union run by an American guy from
Washington State who also had invited Jerry Taylor to speak
and I think various other people. And yeah, I started
communicating with him, and then I through him, I met
other people, and I visited him in Washington State, I
mean connected with the American nationalist scene, I mean David
Duke for example, and also people from the National Alliance.
So I got really really into it basically, and I
guess one thing led to another, and after several years
I discovered the Uguiness writings also, and also while I
was still in New Orleans, shortly before I graduated, and
that also fascinated me a lot. Like national Bolshevism, the
whole fusion of left and right was very interesting to me.
So that's why I decided to move to Moscow. That
was the reason, basically because of this. So I wanted
to study Russian and basically need all these people right
that I had read about in the university library in
New Orleans. So yeah, so that's pretty much how it started.
Speaker 1: Well that's good because you answered the question I was
going to ask why you left the States, and it
looks like it looks like he answered the question there.
So well, I met you recently at the American Renaissance
Conference and you were selling books there, and one of
the books that you were selling is one that you wrote,
and the one of those titles that kudos on the
title because it immediately makes people want to know exactly
what's in it. Esoteric Trump is So what did you
Where were you in twenty fifteen when Trump decided decided
he was going to run for a president and then
while he was running, where were you watching that from?
And what were what were your opinions? What was going on?
Speaker 2: Well, I was in Moscow at the time. I was
living in Moscow. Actually I had an apartment. I was
living in an apartment right in the center of Moscow,
pretty much opposite the Kremlin almost well because the time difference.
It was in the middle of the night, like when
they I mean when the election was happening, when they
were counting the votes and all that stuff. So, I
mean I could barely sleep, right because I was really
excited because I was following like the whole like mean
wars on Facebook back then and all the other social
media and I was actively actively participating. So I was
really excited, but I didn't have much hope right I was.
I'm pretty much thought, yeah, he's probably going to lose
like everybody else, because that's what everybody was predicting. But
then like when I woke up, I was a gate
in the morning, I like Moscow time, and they still
had an announced who was president and they were still counting.
It was like a nail biting thing, right because I
had addressed I had to go to work. I had
like a bunch of a bunch of students adults like
computer programmers in some big office building that I had
to go to to take the metro for like an
hour the subway. So I arrived there like I don't
know ten o'clock and was still wasn't announced who's going
to be president. So I started a lesson. I was
teaching the students, but every five minutes I would look
at my cell phone and the students that us like you,
I mean, what are you looking at? Us? I need
to know, like I need to know who who want
the president? Seems going to be president? And like during
a lesson it was announced officially like Donald Trump was
going to be president. And I was so excited that
I had to share with the students because I couldn't
hold it in obviously, But there were Russians that were
happy with me, of course, so they were all laughing.
It was all everybody was in a good mood because
I guess in general and I mean, because Russians in
general are very conservative, so I think they're more sympathetic
to Trump. Anyway, even back then, they were more sympathetic
to Trump. And yeah, so they were happy with maybe
sort of celebrated, you know, talked about Trump for the
rest of the lesson instead of doing what I had
originally planned. So that was that was really cool. And
then of course when I left the building, I was like, yeah,
it was just you know how the feeling was back then,
just very elated, so to speak, walking through the Moscow streets,
talking to different people on the phone in the US,
so good time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I say that that must have been
a lot of fun seeing it, seeing it from Afar
and people who, you know, to people who are not
really emotionally invested in it. But yeah, I guess it's
more of a curiosity. And you know, since I guess
since the United States does dominate world politics, it people
there everywhere has have to have an interest and even
feel like they have some kind of there's some kind
of skin in the game for them, because I mean, War, NATO,
everything is especially in that section of the world.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, of course I would say that the Russians
are probably not as emotionally involved like in this presidential
election as I say West Europeans, because I think American
influence in Western Europe is of course much stronger than
it is in Russia. I mean, Russia is virtually absent, right,
I mean, there are no American basis. America does not
really have any control whatsoever in Russia. So I would
say Russia is a truly sovereign country in that sense,
both economically, politically, and also culturally in my opinion. I mean,
there's of course American movies and stuff in the movie theaters,
and some American music on the radio, but you also
have a lot of Russian movies and Russian TV series,
and I mean Russian music that people listen to. Actually
would say that they even prefer listening to Russian music nowadays.
So yeah, the same as of course is not the
case in Germany. For example, Germany is an American colony.
I mean it's not a sovereign country. It hasn't been
a sovereign count since nineteen forty five. It's an occupied country.
It's an American vasult state, right, So I mean this
is why, like German politics has never interested me much
because it doesn't really mean anything in the big picture
because Germany makes no decisions, it has no real influence
on the world stage. And I think what happens in
America influences the entire West. I mean, whether you like
it or not, it's just the way it is, right,
And this is why I think Western Europeans have a
lot of skin in the game. And I was really
emotionally involved both like in all three elections twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty and the recent one.
Speaker 1: Right, well, I guess the only thing is I worry
about what I Okay, First of all, you mentioned that
Germany is occupied by the United States, and I would
say the United States and Europe are occupied by a
foreign power to us, a foreign ideology to us. So
I think we're basically all we're all in the same boat.
Although the United States being so powerful and the outcome
of World War World War two, that's why Europe seems
more like colonies of the United States. But the United
States to me is like this gigantic force that is
is still occupied. I mean, we're still occupied by the
same people who are pushing all their influence upon not
only Europe now they're pushing it into Ukraine and pushing
it into pushing it upon Russia too. So I think
if I was Russian, I'd i'd be worried about who
the United States president is solely for how they're, what
they're what their attitude would be towards you know, the country,
towards Russia, but towards the Russian leadership.
Speaker 2: Of course, I completely agree with you, and I think,
I mean, the fact that Trump won the second time,
I mean this year made a lot of Russians happy.
I mean, I did a podcast with the Russian friend
of mine in Moscow and he was telling me that
like that, even the day after the election in Moscow,
like people were smiling and you were sharing all the
Trump means on their phones, talking about it in the
cafes and everything. And I have a lot of friends
in Russia and they also send me a lot of messages,
you know how happy they are. And I know officially
the Russian government did not, of course officially endorse Trump, right,
and they even sort of endorse Kamala because I mean,
I think it was like a ruse I didn't. I mean,
that's what they said, but I don't think they really
meant it, because they said, well, with Kamala, we know
what we're going to get. It's just going to continue
like Biden, so it's not going to be something unexpected,
et cetera. But I think in reality, of course, I
also wanted Trump to win. It's pretty obvious, right, I mean,
also because Trump promised to end the war and promised
to end to send military aid to Ukraine and therefore
stop escalating situation there. Yeah, so I think you're absolutely
right with what you were saying that. Of course Russian
government is very interested always who's going to be the
leader of the Western world, because that's the person they
really have to deal with.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the subject of the book. I noticed
from from reading the introductions. You know, obviously this this
came out this year this year, but before the election,
well before the election. Reading reading James Kirkpatrick's forward to it,
seeing that he his take on it, but you can
still see that I think he's writing in February or March,
and you know he's anticipating Trump. Trump's in the lead.
Can Trump be president? But taking into consideration that you
cared enough to write a book about him, what was
your opinion of what was going to happen this year
is as far as the election, and did you think that,
let's go before July thirteenth, which is going to be
an infamous day because of you know, the speech in Pennsylvania.
What did you think did you think he was going
to win? Did you think they were going to steal
it from him? Was the fix in? What was your opinion?
Speaker 2: Well, I had like I didn't have a fixed opinion,
to be honest, I was vacillating, right, So I thought
at first, like when the book was published, I was
very optimistic. I was very confident because I thought that
you had a lot of support in the United States,
especially in the heartland what is considered a flyover country.
I mean obviously not in say New York, Los Angeles,
but I knew that like in the majority part of
the United States, in the parts that actually mattered, that
he had, I mean, definite support. So I was very confident.
Also when you saw all the rallies with all the people,
you know, like for him, and compared it to the
rallies that the Democrats staged, I mean, they were way
more impressive. So I was very optimistic. Yeah, but as
time went on, I don't know, I questioned my optimism.
So I thought, you know, like I don't see any
kind of I know, procedures being initiated from the Republican
side to stop some quart of shenanigans that the Democrats
might pull, like they probably did in twenty twenty, as
many people allege. So I became a bit disheartened. I
was like, I mean, what if the same thing's going
to happen again, like in twenty twenty. I mean, it might, right,
That's what I thought, And nobody's going to do anything
about it because they really can't. So yeah, But then
I became optimistic again because of like, really the grassroots support,
especially after their the infamous incident in July. I mean,
and when Elon Musk started supporting him, and then you
had RFK and Talsy Gabbert, and then it became like
much more than a right wing movement. It became a
true populist movement, so basically the populists versus the establishment
versus the elite basically, because you can't really, you can't
really say that that trump Ism as a movement is
right wing or even even strictly conservative anymore, right, I mean,
it has transcended all boundaries in my opinion with the
inclusion of all these people, because you can't really say that,
I mean, Elon Musk is not really right wing, and
neither stalls the Gabbard RFK. But all three of them
have really prominent positions in the movement now, and all
three of them are very valuable members of the Trumpist movement,
in my opinions, are necessary ones, especially if you want
to avoid something like World War three, right, so you
need as much support as you can get from all sides.
And this is what made me really optimistic again. So
shortly before the election, maybe several weeks, I was pretty
sure he was going to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then obviously he wins. I had one thing
that I had been tracking was the removal of dead
and ghost voters in many states like Pennsylvania had moved
four hundred thousand names from the voter rolls. They did
the same thing in Virginia. He lost Virginia. They did
the same thing in a lot of states. And so
that's what made me made me think, well, maybe that's
the way they pulled it off the last time, and
that'll help this time. And plus I'm just being here
and being on the ground it just nobody support it.
I mean, I know I live in Alabama, but I
have people contacting me from the deepest blue places and
they're like, I don't see Akmala sign anywhere. There's no support.
No one's talking about this person. So I figured the
only people that were going to vote for Kamala were
the people who would vote for Kamala. They're just going
to buy default vote for Kamala, and that basically everybody
else is going to vote for Trump. And I mean,
I think that's probably the way it turned out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe some independence swung for Kamala because
they're oh, Trump is, you know, too bombastic, He's divisive.
We don't want that. But I think enough people were
upset with their groceries tripling in the last four years
and gasoline going up two dollars that they were just like,
screw this, We're just gonna we need change, and even
though it's really not changed, because we know what we're getting,
we're going to go for it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I think. And I also think
that a lot of people are just really sick of
the woke bullshit that the Democratic I don't know, establishment
keeps shoving down people's throats whether they like it or not,
like all the transgender stuff that the LGBTQ, the hormonal
treatments and BLM riots, ANTIFA riots and critical race theory,
unisex bathrooms or transgender people using women's bathrooms, and like
weird cross stressing generals in the US military, making the
United States basically a laughing stock in the whole entire world. So,
I mean, and it's become too cartoonish, I think, and
I think it just didn't fly anymore with a lot
of people. People just couldn't take it. And I think,
in my opinion, it's probably also one of the main
reasons why so many people voted for Trump, because he
is adamantly opposed to this woke insanity basically, and also
think that evil must help a lot, like in the
end with X, because X is definitely the number one
social medium, especially in the United States and well in
the entire West, and it is extremely influential. And the
fact that he took control of it and basically allowed
I mean semi free speech because of course it's not
total free speech, but total free speech does not exist.
But I mean speech and acts is still free are
than on other social media. I mean, that's a fact,
and I think that also helped a lot. And I
think RFK and like I said earlier, tells it gap
but also pulled a lot of Democrats into the Trump camp,
especially especially the anti war crowd, because people said, well,
we might disagree with pretty much everything that Trump says,
but we don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust,
so he's still a better choice. Even if they say, Okay,
maybe maybe Kamala has better ideas, you know, with gay
rights and social health care, etc. But we still don't
want to die, so we're going to vote for Trump anyway.
I think that's another reason.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something specific to the book, then
I think, you know, I think we can agree. Another
reason why he won is because of immigration. Immigration into
this country is just completely insane, and especially the things
that started coming out with Haitians being imported in here
in Moss like in the last you know, three or
four years. And once that started getting out, I think
people started freaking out, and even people who would normally
that wouldn't be their hot button issue, I think it
became their hot button issue. It's obvious that Trump is
not a white nationalist. He's he's an American, He's a
Civil Rights Act American. He's uh, he's someone who wants
to see American America be prosperous. Doesn't seem like he
really cares who does that as long as they love
the country. But you you also talked about in your book,
and you know, remind people it's called esoteric trump Ism
about America's race question. So what do you how do
you think that all ties in with the UH, with
immigration and people balls, you know, people wanting immigration stopped
or at this point many people just saying it needs
to be reversed and we need to see remigration.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Trump even mentioned the word remigration in one
of his tweets, which I found very interesting because the
whole topic of remigration is extremely popular, I mean especially
in Europe because you know, the Austring guy, Martin Selna,
he also spoke at the American Renaissance conference. He popularized.
He even wrote a book called Remigration, which was on
the German Amazon bestseller list number one for like weeks. Right,
insanely popular. People go crazy over this word in the
media here. I'm not sure if it's the same in
the us. I mean, I mean, I know deportation. People
talk about it all the time, mass deportations now, which
is great, of course, right, But like you said, it's
not enough because even if you deport all the if
you deport all the illegals, which is in my opinion,
not even possible, right, Like, logistically it's very difficult. And
I don't think he will deport twenty million personally. I mean,
he definitely will deport some, but it's definitely not going
to deport all of them. I think because he can't,
like he can't build the wall, he can't build a
proper wall. How can he possibly deport twenty million people?
I mean if he was, if he was the king
or the emperor, he probably could. But he's not, right,
he's not that powerful, so they will throw all kinds
of obstacles at him, of course. Yeah. So just just
real quick, because you mentioned the Haitians, it's pretty funny.
But because when Trump mentioned like eating the eating the
eating urcats and dogs, I mean, it was so hilarious.
I don't even know if it's true, right, because I
hear different accounts, but it's just so.
Speaker 1: I lived in South Florida for nineteen years and South
Florida has the largest Haitian population outside of Haiti. It
may even be bigger than Haiti. That's very real.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I believe it. I believe that's right. I
just thought it was funny that came such a huge meme,
especially with that song. And it's because my daughter, she
goes to school here into high school in Germany, and
she has no idea about like Trump or politics, you know.
I mean, she was twelve at the time, and even
she came home like one day singing this song and
she had no idea what it meant or where it
came from. She just thought it was some cute, funny song.
So I thought it was quite hilarious, to be honest,
how far it has spread like this meme? Well, talking
about the race question, because in my book that I
take a sort of contradictory view of the matter, right,
Because on the one hand, I think America, I mean,
was founded originally as a white republic. Yes, I mean,
if you look at the founding fathers and look at
their writings, their speeches, et cetera, and what they actually said,
I mean, it's pretty obvious that they wanted the United
States to be a country that was reserved exclusi for
white people, right, I mean, I mean Indians weren't citizens
until the twentieth century. I mean neither were blacks or
any other racial group. As a matter of fact, even
women weren't considered like false citizens, you know, with all
the same rights until quite late in the game. So
pretty much like a like a like a white male
dominated republic. I mean, that was the idea, in my opinion,
a beautiful idea, right. Unfortunately, it didn't work out, as
we all know, because you had I mean nineteen sixty
five when it all went down the toilet pretty much, right,
I mean, you had great people in America, like great
race scientists, people writing about race, like Lothrop Start or
Madison Grant, who were actually so influential at the beginning
of the twentieth century, like in the nineteen twenties and
nineteen thirties, that even the National Socialist regime was actually
heavily influenced by these people, right, and published German translations
of Lovethrop Starter's book, Madison Grant's book. And they envisioned
sort of like a white say Faustian America and America
that is built on just the will of the white
Man to construct something out of nothing, to create something great,
and then always go further to explore and conquer new frontiers.
First it was the West, and then later on it
became the space race, you know, always further. I mean
it's in Hareent, in the in the white Man. This
this drive obviously, this this Faustian impulse. But Oswald Spengler, right,
the German philosopher who wrote the famous book The Decline
of the West, also in the nineteen twenties, so one
hundred years ago, he already said the West is on
its way out. So Oswolds Spangler compared civilizations to organisms.
Since they're born, they grew up, they're mature, then they
grow old, and then they die. And he pretty much
that the West is already in a senile stage. It's
already close to death, basically. And that was a hundred
years ago, imagine, right, so even before World War two,
I mean World War one was over, he had already
thought this. So basically he said that the Faustian impulse
is basically a sign of a declining civilization because he said, first,
you have cultures. So when they blossom, these organisms their cultures,
and when they enter the stage of decline, they become civilizations.
So civilizations already senile cultures basically in decaying cultures. And
this is where I mean he said, and the Faustian
drive is basically already a sign of decline because you're
not satisfied with what you have, so has it has
a dark site, this Faustian impulse. So going back, sorry,
going back to the race question for a bit sidetracked here.
So the Faustian impulse is part of the white man's nature.
Everything was perverted in nineteen sixty five. So now America
is a multiracial, multicultural country. I mean, it just is.
It's a fact, right, I mean you can say what
you want, but it still is. So I mean, what
are white? It's not like about fifty percent. I guess
it's still about half. I mean it's not enough, right,
I mean it's now officially a multi ethnic, multiracial, multi confessional,
Malti everything country. I don't think it's ever going to
go back to a white majority country. It's not realistic.
I think it cannot be done. I mean I'm quite
pessimistic and black piled about this. But it doesn't mean
that you just have to give up and everything's all right,
because I believe that you can have a sort of
ethnic pluralist solution possibly, And I mean I was. I
was in Los Angeles, for example, in March, and I
find Los Angeles quite interesting as a city I considered
as like an example of a Western city of the
future because it's it's it embodies the ethnic pluralist principle
because you walk around and you have like Koreatown, Chinatown,
Little Tokyo, you have the Mexican part, and they're all
very self contained, like you don't see a lot of
intermingling going on. I mean, just from my that was.
Speaker 1: That was that was That was New York City fifty
one hundred years ago. I mean that you had West
German neighborhoods. I mean had like Southern German neighborhoods where
you know, people who from the North of Germany didn't
didn't come in there, but the North German neighborhood was too,
was two blocks over.
Speaker 2: Interesting, right, Yeah, But don't you think don't you think
it's still true in America today though, that people automatic
self segregate I mean mostly.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, as long as they're allowed to, as long
as they're not engineered into some kind of you. You
will see engineering in certain parts where they'll try and integrate.
And you know, whenever somebody does a what do they
call when a gentrification, you never you never one hundred
percent get rid of the who was there before. So
but yeah, I think left to our own devices. I
mean the town I live in is there's a black
population here and they live in their own section as
compared to where all the other European whites live in
their own sections too, of.
Speaker 2: Course, I mean it's like this everywhere in the US.
I mean just also from my personal experience, I traveled
extensively in America, and I think I think the only
thing that you need is freedom of association basically, right,
which in you up and in the US you don't
really have anymore because it's been banned. Right. So I mean,
once you, once you can regain true freedom of association,
I think then you have a lot of opportunities to
perpetuate your your race, your ethnicity, or your own tribe,
your group basically I mean for the people that truly
want to write because not every not every member of you,
of your race or your ethnic group wants to be
really a part of it. Right, A lot of people
prefer to live in I know, and I say mixed
race marriages and they have no problem with it. Right.
And if you have freedom of association, I should have
a right to have their own communities if they want.
Why not? Right, So, I mean I'm pretty pretty liberal
when it comes to that, right, because you can't enforce association.
You can force people to prefer one group over another.
It's just ridiculous, right, And you can and force affinity.
Like if you just strongly dislike one certain group for
whatever reason, you should have the right to dislike the group,
right as long as you'd obviously, as long as you
don't turn violent against the group or aggressive. You know.
It's like I know, I know, I like some people
like coke. They don't like PEPSI. I mean, it's just
the way it is, right, So you can force them
to drink PEPSI.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of a lot of the
people on on our side don't get that. Like, there
are people in this country who they will marry somebody
outside of their race and they're not even thinking. They're
not doing it on purpose, they're doing it because they
haven't been taught. That's it's just not a consideration that
they would just stay within their own race. And then
when they do it, they automatically get it. If you know,
say they go on social media and someone finds out, oh,
they married and you know, this white European an Asian woman,
they immediately start attacking them. And don't what do you
expect when you attack somebody that you're going to first
of all, that they're just going to like immediately break
their family up and leave their wife and everything. So
basically all you're doing is beating them up, and then
they're going to be on your side. No, Basically, what
you're doing is you're saying, Okay, you're my enemy now
because you did this, you betrayed the white race. When
they act like it was like, oh, I'm going to
do this to betray my ancestors because you know, fuck
my ancestors, and I don't know, doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: I find it totally ridiculous, to be honest, because I mean,
so called race mixing has been going on for hundreds,
if not even thousands of years, right, I mean you
had like all the all the Spanish conquista words, like
a large percentage of them took like Indian wives in
South America. I mean a lot of the North Americans
took Indian wives, and I don't know black wives, et cetera.
Chinese wives, I mean yeah. To be honest, I have
no problem with it. I don't really care. I would
never demonize anybody for their own personal choice in mats, right,
Like if if you choose to to marry a Chinese women, like,
why should I criticize you for it? I mean you,
you you're the one that's gonna live with that woman,
and if that won't makes you happy and you have
a happy marriage, like, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
I find that grotesque to even to even discuss, to
the opinion. To be honest, I think the only problem
I have is that the establishment, like the mainstream media,
they're pushing this agenda, right, because I find it perfectly normal, right.
But what I don't find normal is this this grotesque
pushing of this of this race mixing agenda on all
on all media, basically in all commercials, like you barely
see like I mean, I think in the US, or
in Germany or in the entire Western world, the mainstream
commercials you like ever ever see a purely white couple anymore.
It's either a black man with a white wife or
a white man I don't know with a Chinese wife,
and always mixed children, always, always, every single one of them.
And I mean this is obviously done by design, right,
And I mentioned this in my book, by the Way,
esoteric Trumpism. I think Netflix is another good example of
this is I mean, it all goes hand in hand.
This is also this falsification of history. It's totally bizarre,
like you have this like Bridgerton. Is this this TV show?
I'm sure you've probably heard of it. It's very popular
on Netflix. It's like nineteenth century England, except the queen
is black and lords are all kinds of different races,
you know. And of course it was never like this,
as we all know, right, it was almost one hundred
percent white country at the time, with a few I
don't know non whites sprinkled in. But now kids watch
this TV show, right, and they will think that's how
England was one hundred and fifty years ago. And so
if it was like this one hundred and fifty years ago,
why are these crazy right wing people complaining about all
the i mean non Europeans on the street because I mean,
don't they belong here when they're always here? They were,
I mean, I just saw it on Netflix. I mean,
this is I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and
I don't subscribe to many conspiracy theories, but this is
definitely a conspiracy. I mean, it's it's just too obvious
to me. And this is what I don't like, because
it's not natural. It's being pushed artificially.
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm sure the people who make this quote
unquote are if pushed upon, they'll admit it, especially the
commer the people who are making the commercials.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm one of these people who believes that left to
their own devices, people are just going to gravitate to
their own They're they're going to you know, whether it
be a mate, whether it be anything, you know, anything.
I think that a lot of you know, people marry
outside of their racing college. They meet people in college
because colleges are such mixed mixed groups and everything, and
on the job. Obviously could most people meet their mate
on the job, But it is being pushed and one
of the things by it by pushing it, it becomes normalized,
and then people don't think about it. You know, a
lot of the guys on our side are like, well,
don't you want you know, don't you want your kids
to look like you? And I think everybody would if
they thought about it, But it's so pushed and everybody
gets so brainwashed by it that there's you know that well,
I mean no, there's you know, everyone's the same and
you know, a sixty five IQ Somali and a one
hundred and twenty five IQ Suite or the same basically
because we're all people. And I mean we've been brainwashed
into that for a century now, you know, since at
least since World War Two. So I mean, unless somebody
is actually pushing that, I'm gonna cut him slack, and
I'm not gonna yell. I'm not gonna yell at him.
Unless they're saying, oh no, this is what we have
to do. You know, white people need to do it.
You know, white people need to marry you know, people
of color or people from Asia or anything. Then I
don't I mean, that person is obviously being subversive. But
somebody who just meets somebody and you know, falls in
love with him beat him up in the street because
of it, Well no, well we just beat him up
online because we're anonymous, and you know, no one can
smack you in the mouth for saying something.
Speaker 2: Well, I come gletely agree with you, and I also
find it very distasteful, like certain people online attacking Chady
Vans because he has an Indian wife. It's it's disgusting
in my opinion, right, I mean, I think Chady Vans
is one of the greatest men that America has at
the moment, and he's extremely important. I find him more
interesting than Trump, to be honest. I mean, I read
his book He'll Be the Ellergy, where he talks like
literally about the plight of the of the white working
class and the appellations. And I listened to a lot
of his speeches, read a lot of his stuff, soize
debates and everything. He's extremely smart and intelligent. He's a
tradition is Catholic to boot. I mean, he's one hundred
percent on our side. And the fact that he's married
to an Indian woman does not bother me one ioda,
to be honest, not even a little bit. So I
don't understand these people at all. And I'm quite opposed
to this practice. I mean, for this practice of personally
attacking people for their personal choices. I would never engage
in this ever. And yeah, like you said, the problem
is it's being pushed and being normalized, because if it
wasn't pushed or normalized, it would still happen, but not
on such a massive scale, right, And that's how it
always was, because you always had a certain amount of
mixed race couples, even in Victorian England, but not as many,
and they weren't vocal about it, and they weren't so visible,
and there was a difference, and even back then, nobody
cared about it, right because there were still decent human beings.
That's my opinion. I'm a good exact by the way,
talking about the establishment and pushing this narrative. It's a
Lord of the Rings, right because like you said, if this,
if this stuff is not being pushed aggressively, then people
usually gravity towards their own which is completely true. And
this is the reason I think that Peter Jackson's trilogy
The Lord of the Rings was so insanely popular. It's
because it was an all white cast basically because it
is based on purely North European mythology, right, and Northern
Europeans happened to be all white, and people just loved it,
right because it really reflected who they are and they
saw themselves in it, and it was just beautiful. And
now you have now you have a new version by Amazon,
and now you have black Hobbits and Chinese dwarfs and
Hispanic elves and whatever, and and and people just don't
want to watch it. It's it's being a lamb bested left
and right, and rightfully so in my opinion. And it's
and and yeah, they're losing money these studios, same with
the Star Wars and all that stuff, but they still
do it, which means ideology for them is more important
than business obviously.
Speaker 1: Well, there's something that's never been mentioned on my show before,
and I've never even thought to. It's never across my
mind to do an episode on it, just because there's
so many things I can do an episode on. I
always forget about it. But Gillem Phay's concept of archaeo futurism,
and you talk about it in the Bill. You have
a chapter on it relating it to Trump in the
Let me see what the title of the chapter is.
Trump and Archaeo Futurism a reflection through Guillem Fhay's visionary eyes,
can you give everybody an introduction into exactly what you'd
be talking about there?
Speaker 2: So. Gillemphi was a French philosopher, one of the most
important representatives of what is called the French New righte
started in the late sixties and early seventies. He died
a couple of years ago, unfortunately well. His most famous
idea is called archaeo futurism, and the word itself, archaeo futurism,
consists of two parts, like you have archaeo and futurism,
and it was revolutionary at the time and it's still
revolutionary now because what he advocates is that we should
basically not condemn technological progress, because he believed in the
in the Faustian spirit of Western Man that we discussed before,
and he thought it was in the nature of Western
Man to always go further and discover new things and
invent new things. And he said we should embrace new technology,
including space travel. And he famously said that that all
I mean, most of the of the NASA rockets and
spaceships are named after European pagan gods and not Jesus
or Jehovah right or Moses so. And he said it
was very symbolic of the of the purely European spirit
that drives endeavors like colonizing space. And he said it's
very important not to fight against this like some people
on the right do today, because you have certain people
traditionalists that are totally opposed to any kind of like
modern technology. They think and artificial intelligence is satanic and
should be banned, and space travel, space travel is stupid
and evil, and we should just focus on our planet
and celebrate rituals in the forest or whatever. Right, So
pmfis it, this is all nonsense. We must imprase technology,
we must embrace progress, but at the same time we
must value our heritage. And that's where the archaeopart comes in, right,
So it basically a fusion of technological advancement and ancestor
worship at the same time. Because he said, you can
easily create a link from say and the Roman Empire,
the Greek city states to colonies on Mars, because it's
the same people that do it with the same spirit
and the same drive. And as long as you see
the line of ancestors behind you that led to where
we are today, then you're acting in a traditional manner
and you're honoring I mean your people, your ethnicity or
your race. And I think his solution is extremely valuable
and I should be followed in my opinion. And it's
quite interesting because because I managed the arcts account on
X and I posted this image on the arc dos
x account. It's like some Greek temple with like some
spaceships in the background, and I just wrote archaic futurism
at the bottom, and even Elon Musk liked it and
he commented on it right, and immediately got like five
or six hundred thousand views as a result. And again
this makes me very op simistic because and this is
how I tie it into Trump, right, because you have
a person like Elon Musk now, and Elon Musk is
basically the Howard us On twenty first century right, Like
he's a true I mean, it doesn't matter if you
agree with what he says or is certain with ideological viewpoints,
it's quite irrelevant in my opinion. But overall, he's a
truly Faustian visionary and I fully endorse his idea to
colonize the Red planet. I think it's extremely important actually,
in my opinion and important. It supersedes almost everything to
become multiplanetary for many, many reasons. And to have this
person in the Trump administration together with a person like
Jade Evans, who's a traditionalist Catholic, I mean not the
mainstream Catholic automatically somehow makes this administration an archaeo futurist one,
in my opinion, following certain precepts of Fine, I think
if gm PHI was alive today, he would have definitely
endorsed what's going on right now in American politics with
a new administration coming in next year in January.
Speaker 1: Well, we're coming up on an hour, but I wanted
to get this from you, because you know, the election
is over. Trump won, unlike last time, he like immediately
put his cabinet out there. He's like, we're going to
get people, unlike twenty sixteen. We're going to get people
in places, get people working, start whatever their whatever their
plans are, whatever they're doing behind the scenes. From what
you've seen so far, you know, you're somebody obviously who
has if you're going to write a book about Trump,
you you've been studying this man. What do you think
happens from here, what do you think, you know, considering
everything that's going on in the world, everything that's going
to fall into his lap immediately, what do you think
happens with him? What do you see the next four
years going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those things it's really impossible
to predict. I can tell you what I want to happen, right,
and what could happen. So I think it's just my
personal prediction here. I think Trump twenty twenty four is
a lot more radical than Trump twenty sixteen, because well,
he cannot run again. It's his second term. I mean,
he's almost eighty years old. He has nothing to lose,
in my opinion, and I think the fact that he
quote unquote lost in twenty twenty taught him many lessons
about the deep state that he ignored in his twenty
sixteen term or was even oblivious to it. I think
he knows exactly. I mean, maybe not exactly, but I
think he's pretty much in the know of what's really
going on, who's really in charge in the United States
when you talk about the deep state and the military
industrial complex, et cetera. And I think he's going to
try to push a new American narrative into the limelight,
meaning the populist one. So I think he's very honest
when he says that he wants to fight for the
for the common American man, and I don't know, make
America grade again. And how can you make America grade again?
I mean Trump said it many times, right, don't get
entangled in form military adventures because you don't gain anything
from this, right. I mean, the America spent trillions of
taxpayer dollars in Afghanistan, like trillions of dollars and occupy
Afghanistan for close to twenty years, and they left with
the same people in power that will empower when they
went in. I mean, it is hugely embarrassing in my opinion, obviously,
I mean, what is the point of all this? The
same with Ukraine, and I mean Trump says this. JD.
Van said it the other day. He said, like, it's
really not in America's interests what's going on in Ukraine
because we don't benefit from this. And he's right, because
how does America benefit from it? A lot of people
were outraged, of course, the mainstream media like Jdvans is
selfish and Trump is selfish and want to destroy the
quote unquote rules based order and all the other nonsense
terms they come up with. But in the end, I
think what Trump is trying to do, and I'm not
sure if he's going to succeed in this term, because
it's I think it's a long term project, is to
make America more isolationists again, right, Basically, retreat from the
world stage, focus on your own problems, build up your
own infrastructure, focus on the space program, stop interfering in
other people's affairs, and stop forcing your way of life
on other people that want they have nothing to do
with it. Right. It's basically the age of multipolarity, so
that people like the Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin propagate because
until recently you had a unipolar world with America as
a hyper power, not even a superpower like all powerful.
But these days are over because now you have China,
you have a rise in India, you have Russia, you
have the Islamic world, and they will not be dictated
to by the US anymore. And the US is not
strong enough anymore to do it even if they wanted to.
And the US realizes it, right, And that's why I
think it's being so aggressive on the world stage. It's
basically an empire in its death throws right on its
way out, like flailing wildly with its arms, you know,
becoming more and more aggressive. And several people have said
this an empire and decline is the most dangerous time
because you have to be very careful. And a lot
of people realize this. So, I mean, they want to
escalate things all over the world, but a lot of
people like clearhead of people and count Putin among these people,
and they should should be praised for the level headedness
and and and the fact that they don't react as
they could, you know, in this situation. So and I
think Trump also realizes this. And I think Trump is
very honest when he says that he wants to end
the conflict in Ukraine and or at least take America
out of it, and by taking America out of it,
obviously going to end it anyway. And I think he's
serious about it, and I think he's going to do it.
And I think the Russians are looking forward to Trump
coming into power, and that's a powder keg, you know,
as we all know, the whole Ukraine thing. So let's
hope he succeeds. So to end this conflict. Let's hope
that he pulls America out of other areas in the
world where it does not belong, hopefully also Germany, even
though that's that's probably a far off dream. I mean,
he mentioned it in his first term. He said that
he would pull out the US troops from Germany. What
many people are upset, including the German establishment of course,
as the vassals that they are. So this is what
I think will happen. I think he's going to slowly,
step by step pull back from the world stage, meaning
America's role as the global policeman, focus more on internal
issues like immigration, illegal immigration, the border, and infrastructure and
the space program hopefully. So this is what I hope
will happen. And I'm optimistic, So I think it will happen.
And I hope we'll get a multi generational mega administration.
So I hope after Trump hopefully gets maybe JD. Evans
for two terms, right, so, because otherwise it's all for nothing,
because if you have this for four years and then
you have another person like Biden or or Kamala or
whatever in power, they will just tear down everything you
build up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the The whole gist of everything
is that in two in twenty twenty eight and twenty
thirty two, you're going to have to have a continuation
of this kind of energy, because not everything's going to
be solved in one term or two years. You know,
they put oh, Doze is going to be gone in
two years, Department of Government Efficiency will be gone in
two years. Well, I mean this isn't maybe for maybe
for immediate goals, maybe for one term goals, but for
future goals, you're going to need a few administrations in
order to even achieve the kind of thing you're talking about.
Because you hear a lot of people talking about the
Marshall Plan now, which would be not the Marshall Plan,
the Monroe doctrine, where the United States would have influence
in their zone, Russia would have influenced Russia and China
can fight for influence over there and just let everybody
have their own. Let whoever is the most prosperous, the
most forward thinking, maybe that they would look at their
area of the world and let other let other areas
of the world, let the let them do what they're
going to do. Because the age of you know, NATO,
NATO basically is now just where retired neo cons go
to go to work, and you know, so they can
continue the insanity that they've been producing for you know,
seventy five years now. But yeah, I think that we
just we have to worry about our own little space
here and then let others do what they're going to
do over there. I don't think Putin, no matter what
anybody believes, I don't think Putin's a threat to the
United States or to Europe as long as he's left
alone to do what he wants to do, as long
as they leave Russia alone. And right now it seems
like they're it almost seems like they're trying to start
World War three before Trump gets in there to completely
that they're willing to risk nukes being dropped in order
to destroy anything he would do or even you know,
have the government be basically a gigantic nuclear you know,
trying to figure out how to win a nuclear war
and put it. January twentieth can't come fast enough. As
far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. And again, you
can't praise Putin enough for being as level headed as
he is for not falling into this strap that the
current administration is trying to set for him. So a
lot of people actually say that Putin is a dictator,
he's evil, you know, he must he must be deposed.
But what these people don't understand is that Putin is
pretty moderate right in Russian terms, because if Putin actually
leaves office, the person that is going to succeed Putin
might be a real hardliner, a real nationalist, and not
a level headed person. So people should be thankful that
it's a person like Putin in power in Russia who
is calmly reacting to this unbelievable acts of aggression that
Russia has to endure from the West on almost daily basis.
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I learned from the Tucker interview is
that Putin knows his history. He knows the history of
his country. He knows the history of his people. The
worst thing that you could the worst thing that could
happen to Russia is somebody gets in there who doesn't
know that history, because once somebody we see it in
this country, whenever somebody gets in charge who ignores the
history of who we are, everything goes to crap. Everything.
It's a seek to modernize, seek to a progressive kind
of kind of ideal or just to change change who
we are. And so that's what I'm hoping that whoever
takes over for Putin has that same kind of historical knowledge,
because I think that kind of historical knowledge, when someone
has that kind of historical knowledge, they want to preserve
it and they want to preserve its people. And the
worst thing that could happen is someone who gets in
there who doesn't care about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any such risk, to be honest,
because I mean I know Russian's fairly well because I
lived in Russia for twelve years, and I would say
in general Russians are much better educated than Americans or
Western Europeans as well. Well. I mean, they can still
quote poems by heart that they learned in high school
in different languages that they had to memorize, like good Burns, Shakespeare,
et cetera, Pushkin of course at length like long points right,
So that's quite amazing. And they all know their history
fairly well. And patriotism is the norm in Russia, while
it is an aberration in the West. I mean it's
it's a complete I mean, the West is basically a
bizarro world if you look at I mean, can compare
to the Superman comics, right, you have like Superman that
the normal superhero, and then you have bizarro Superman, where
everything is the opposite. And I think that's pretty much
the case with Russia and the West. So I mean,
I don't know in Germany, you see in West Germany
like Frankfurt or Brulin, or in America probably the same,
like in New York somewhere Manhattan a cafe and you
talk about the AfD the alternative for Germany. In Germany
in positive terms, like people will attack you because if
they overhear your conversation from like neighboring tables. And I
think it's probably the same in the US probably if
you talk about Trump too positively or I certain other
issues that are considered too patriotic to reactionary by the
establishment or the mainstream. But the opposite is the case
in Russia, right, I mean there, if you say such things,
most the vast majority of people will agree with you,
and it will invite you for drinks. And that's just
the way it is. So it's a completely, in my opinion,
normal society, the way the West used to be until
on the nineteen fifties, maybe right when it's all started
going downhill. So I was just watching some American expat
on telegram. He made videos in some shopping mall in
Russia with all the only white people everywhere, and he
basically he said, it's like traveling back in time to
America in the nineteen eighties, basically walking through the shopping
mall in Moscow. So I mean, so, the fear that
somebody will come to power after Putin who has no
knowledge of history is almost non existent in my opinion,
because I've actually never met a Russian who has no
concept of his own history or the responsibility that he
or she has to uphold this history and to make
sure that Russia as a country with Russians as it
distinct people will prevail.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody promote anything where they can get the books,
any articles you want to promote anything, well, as a.
Speaker 2: Terry Trump is in a book you can order on Amazon.
You can also order it and artros dot com slash
shop where you can also buy the books by Gillomphi
like Archaeo Futurism that I mentioned earlier. Because Giomphi is
not available on Amazon, you can actually only order them
in the arctos shop. Same with Alexander Dugin's books. They're
not available on Amazon. You can buy them in the
Arts shop. I mean, I know Dugin did an interview
with Tucker Carlson where they said that Dugan's books were
banned in the United States. Is not actually true. They're
not banned. Amazon just refuses to carry them. So, like
I said, you can order them arct doss dot com
slash shop. And we have a lot of other books,
of course. And then we have a journal, an online
journal Arctosjournal dot com, where you can read new articles
on a daily basis, usually two or three about current events,
culture history, by a variety of different authors, some famous,
some new. You should check it out. I highly recommend it.
Also have a personal sub stack called euro Siberia dot
net where I post two or three articles per week
about topics of our huge variety, also culture history, et cetera. Yeah,
and by the way, just real quick, yeah, just finished
the second book called Multipolarity, which Multipolarity exclamation mark. I've
already announced it on social media, will probably be released
in a couple of weeks. So it covers some of
the some of the points we discussed.
Speaker 1: Today Constantine, thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for having Mesh