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back to the Pekanana Show. I want to introduce you

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to Constantine von Hoffmeister. How are you doing, Constantine, pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for inviting me to a show.

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I'm really happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no problem. Why don't you tell everybody a little

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bit about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Also, I'm concerning from Hoffmeis. Currently I'm the editor in

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chief at Arctos. Arctos has been around since two thousand

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and nine and is the pre eminent publisher in the

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English language of I would say new right and traditionalist literature.

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I mean we published books by Giamphi, Julius Evola, I

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mean the classics, also new books by Alexander Dugin and

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various other new right authors. Also translations from French like

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Dominic Vine for example. And currently I live in Germany,

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but I've pretty much lived all over the place. Like

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I left Germany when I was fifteen. Then I lived

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in the US for two years, went to high school

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in Arizona. Later I went to college in New Orleans.

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I lived in New Orleans for seven years. Participated in

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Civil War enactments on battlefields all over the South, like Mississippi, Alabama, Florida,

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I mean all over England and Gettysburg when we participated,

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so there was quite an exhilarating experience. Yeah, and then

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also with in India for three years. I was working

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for English language newspapers, like writing travel reports and interviewing

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various illustrious people, including the Dalai Lama, who was in

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New Delhi at one point giving a speech about the

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spiritual relationship between India and Tibet. Because we all know

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that Prince Satartha, he came from India and brought Buddhism

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to Tibet. Even managed to ask him some questions. I

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was quite amazed, actually that Daala Lama speaks with an

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impeccable Oxford accent, so that was quite surprising. But a

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very nice guy, I suppose. Yeah, And then yeah, traveled

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extensively in India and the other parts of Asia. Yeah.

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Then I lived in Moscow also for twelve years, where

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I worked as a I would say business trainer, where

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I was teaching various managers and directors of international and

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Russian companies. I know how to write proper reports and

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emails and give presentations stuff like that, creative stuff. Mostly

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in between, I lived in Uzbekistan also for a year

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in Tushkent as an elementary school teacher. So I was

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a third grade class teacher at a British private elementary

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school owned by Turkish people in the capital city of Tashkent.

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So that was a very interesting experience. I was eighteen

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years ago, so I turned thirty when I was in

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tush Kent. I'm forty eight years old now. It was

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an interesting experience because so my class consisted of about

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I'm twenty students. Half of my students were sons and

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daughters of different I mean ministers from the uzbek government,

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and the other half were sons and daughters of different diplomats,

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like people who were part of the embassy staff in Tashkent.

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of the President of Uzbekistan, whose name was Islam kut

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him Off I mean he died a couple of years ago,

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but he was very much alive when I was a

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teacher there. And his daughter, meaning the mother of my student.

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in Tashkent called Kata Komba, and coincidentally, this night club

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was in the same street where I had my apartment.

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and I would always be immediately invited to the VIP

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lounge and get all the cocktails for free because I

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was I was a teacher of the owner's daughter, right,

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so I had privileges. I was also often invited to

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the President's palace from diplomatic functions. So it was a

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very interesting time. Yeah. Also in Moscow, I had a

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lot of interesting experiences. I became acquainted with Alexander Dugin. Yeah,

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about twenty years ago, in two thousand and five. Alexander

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Dugin at that time was not as well known as

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and real mainstream newspapers, regular columns and everything. I mean,

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it has a lot to do with the fact that

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his daughter was murdered. That really put him on the map.

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virtually unknown. He was completely fringe. But I had this

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American friend who was working for DO in Moscow at

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the time. He was doing the English He was managing

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the English translation of Dougin's website, the Jivrazia the Eurasian website,

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and Dugan planned to had planned to organize a conference

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like a founding conference of the Eurasianist youth movement in

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the city of Alexandrov, which is maybe two hours from Moscow.

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Alexandrov for a period of time. I don't exactly remember

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the historical circumstances why, but he ruled not from Moscow

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but moved his core to the Kremlin and Alexandrov. And

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Ivan the Terrible, So all the speakers were standing in

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front of the throne where Ivan used to sit, and

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behind the throne they had put up a screen where

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they were playing Sadgie Eisenstein's silent movie Ivan Krasny about

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Ivan the Terrible without sound, just as a background, you know,

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for the atmosphere. And my American friend he gave us.

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because because Alexander Dugin wanted it to make it more international,

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like international speakers as well. And this American friend told

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Dugin about me, so I was also invited to speak

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because I'm a German speaker. So two international guests. So

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I actually spoke there. I mean there's still pictures of it.

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So that was a very good experience, speaking in Ivan,

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the terriblest throne throne room. Yeah, and I met a

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lot of other interesting people in Moscow, its fascinating city.

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so excellent times. And yeah, now back in Germany for

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personal reasons, I mean moved back here a couple of

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years ago. I'm not sure how long we'll stay, but

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we'll see.

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Speaker 1: How did you get into like new write literature Fei

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and Julius Avla, How how did that enter your life?

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Speaker 2: Well, that was in New Orleans in two thousand and one.

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As a matter of fact, like before that, I was

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a complete liberal basically, I mean I was apolitical so

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to speak. And yeah I was. I was interested in

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like modern art, like abstract expressionism. I was a big

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fan Jackson Pollock and my favorite art ist Si Twombly

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and the dataist movement, the Surrealist movement, especially poetry, and

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I wrote a lot of poetry at the time, so

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I was obsessed with Also the French symbolists like Artur Rambau,

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Charles Bodlea and Paul Verlaine. All these people fascinated me.

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And also the Beatniks, right, I was a big Beatnik fan.

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When I mean that's I mean I before sorry, before

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I the New Orleans I forgot to mention. Also went

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to college in New Hampshire for a year for two

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semesters to Keen State College. The movie Jumanji with Robin

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Williams was filmed in Keen while I lived there, so

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I saw the filming on main Street. Just a little anecdote,

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but yeah, there I got into like the sort of

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hippie crowd, you know, the people who listened to like Pink,

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Floyd and Fish. You know, was really big at the time.

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So I had the bell bottoms, I still had long hair,

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had three earrings, you know, like the seventies style shirts

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with a huge collar, all that stuff. So also you know,

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hung out with these people doing what they do, you know,

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and reading all like the Beatnic stuff like Jack Krak,

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William Burrows, Alan Ginsburger always detested I never liked him.

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I always thought it was really creepy and this poetry

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pretty shitty, to be honest. I was always a big

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fan of Karak. That really appealed to me, this free

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spirit and traveling all over the pl place while philosophying

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about life, death and everything else. And William Burrow's fastinetymy

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because of his experimental writing style, because he invented the

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cut up method. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that,

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are you, Pete.

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Speaker 1: The cut up method is emmy And is it where

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every the story is disjointed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, the yeah, well sort of. It was actually

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invented I think originally Patristaan Sarda, one of the founders

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of the of the data movement in the nineteen twenties

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in Switzerland. So basically what he did, Tristan Sara did

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he took a newspaper article and he just cut it

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up basically into fragments, the sentences, and he put them

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all into a hat and then he would pull them

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out at random and piece them together and create i mean,

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poetry out of this basically. And William Burrow's basically perfected

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this method by writing whole novels, which are based constructed

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out of extracts from other people's work basically, so by

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cutting them up basically or like Shakespeare or Lord Byron

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and contemporary journal articles, and he would just piece them

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together to create like new, whole new texts. And I

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found this quite fascinating, so I was totally into it,

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and still when I lived in New Orleans in two

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thousand and one, I mean, the internet was fairly new

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at the time I saw, and I didn't have a

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computer and smartphones didn't exist, so you always had to

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big room at the University of New Orleans where all

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the students would sit like in front of computers, and

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it would always be people sitting next to you on

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the left and the right. And yeah, I would just

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do like I mean, you were supposed to do it

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for school research, but I would just use it for

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fun mostly, and you could print out for free, like

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nobody cared. Like I probably printed out thousands of pages

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of like articles and stuff, and it just came across

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like these nationalist websites. I mean, I said, like William

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big at the time two thousand and one, so I

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just my I guess it's somehow connected to my artistic sensibilities,

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like this whole idea of identity, which I had never

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considered before, that you could view yourself as part of

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something bigger. And this emptity is race or ethnicity also

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has a mythical aspect that transcends mere materialism. And that's

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also how I got into evil, I guess, because there

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were a lot of links in these websites and then

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the rabbit hole, right, and there was like a whole

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maze with different tunnels that it would traverse learn more

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and more about these things. And that started really in

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nine to eleven, right, And there was a website called

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European American Student Union run by an American guy from

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Washington State who also had invited Jerry Taylor to speak

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and I think various other people. And yeah, I started

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communicating with him, and then I through him, I met

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other people, and I visited him in Washington State, I

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mean connected with the American nationalist scene, I mean David

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Duke for example, and also people from the National Alliance.

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So I got really really into it basically, and I

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guess one thing led to another, and after several years

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I discovered the Uguiness writings also, and also while I

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was still in New Orleans, shortly before I graduated, and

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that also fascinated me a lot. Like national Bolshevism, the

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whole fusion of left and right was very interesting to me.

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was the reason, basically because of this. So I wanted

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to study Russian and basically need all these people right

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that I had read about in the university library in

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New Orleans. So yeah, so that's pretty much how it started.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good because you answered the question I was

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going to ask why you left the States, and it

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looks like it looks like he answered the question there.

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So well, I met you recently at the American Renaissance

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Conference and you were selling books there, and one of

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the books that you were selling is one that you wrote,

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and the one of those titles that kudos on the

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title because it immediately makes people want to know exactly

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what's in it. Esoteric Trump is So what did you

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Where were you in twenty fifteen when Trump decided decided

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he was going to run for a president and then

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while he was running, where were you watching that from?

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And what were what were your opinions? What was going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was in Moscow at the time. I was

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living in Moscow. Actually I had an apartment. I was

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living in an apartment right in the center of Moscow,

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pretty much opposite the Kremlin almost well because the time difference.

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It was in the middle of the night, like when

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they I mean when the election was happening, when they

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were counting the votes and all that stuff. So, I

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mean I could barely sleep, right because I was really

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excited because I was following like the whole like mean

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wars on Facebook back then and all the other social

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media and I was actively actively participating. So I was

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really excited, but I didn't have much hope right I was.

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I'm pretty much thought, yeah, he's probably going to lose

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like everybody else, because that's what everybody was predicting. But

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then like when I woke up, I was a gate

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in the morning, I like Moscow time, and they still

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had an announced who was president and they were still counting.

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It was like a nail biting thing, right because I

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had addressed I had to go to work. I had

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like a bunch of a bunch of students adults like

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computer programmers in some big office building that I had

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to go to to take the metro for like an

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hour the subway. So I arrived there like I don't

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know ten o'clock and was still wasn't announced who's going

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to be president. So I started a lesson. I was

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teaching the students, but every five minutes I would look

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at my cell phone and the students that us like you,

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I mean, what are you looking at? Us? I need

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to know, like I need to know who who want

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the president? Seems going to be president? And like during

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a lesson it was announced officially like Donald Trump was

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going to be president. And I was so excited that

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I had to share with the students because I couldn't

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hold it in obviously, But there were Russians that were

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happy with me, of course, so they were all laughing.

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general are very conservative, so I think they're more sympathetic

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to Trump. Anyway, even back then, they were more sympathetic

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to Trump. And yeah, so they were happy with maybe

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sort of celebrated, you know, talked about Trump for the

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rest of the lesson instead of doing what I had

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originally planned. So that was that was really cool. And

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then of course when I left the building, I was like, yeah,

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it was just you know how the feeling was back then,

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just very elated, so to speak, walking through the Moscow streets,

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talking to different people on the phone in the US,

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so good time.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I say that that must have been

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a lot of fun seeing it, seeing it from Afar

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and people who, you know, to people who are not

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really emotionally invested in it. But yeah, I guess it's

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more of a curiosity. And you know, since I guess

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since the United States does dominate world politics, it people

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there everywhere has have to have an interest and even

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feel like they have some kind of there's some kind

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of skin in the game for them, because I mean, War, NATO,

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everything is especially in that section of the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, of course I would say that the Russians

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are probably not as emotionally involved like in this presidential

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election as I say West Europeans, because I think American

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influence in Western Europe is of course much stronger than

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it is in Russia. I mean, Russia is virtually absent, right,

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I mean, there are no American basis. America does not

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really have any control whatsoever in Russia. So I would

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say Russia is a truly sovereign country in that sense,

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both economically, politically, and also culturally in my opinion. I mean,

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there's of course American movies and stuff in the movie theaters,

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and some American music on the radio, but you also

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have a lot of Russian movies and Russian TV series,

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and I mean Russian music that people listen to. Actually

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would say that they even prefer listening to Russian music nowadays.

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So yeah, the same as of course is not the

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case in Germany. For example, Germany is an American colony.

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I mean it's not a sovereign country. It hasn't been

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a sovereign count since nineteen forty five. It's an occupied country.

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It's an American vasult state, right, So I mean this

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is why, like German politics has never interested me much

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because it doesn't really mean anything in the big picture

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because Germany makes no decisions, it has no real influence

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on the world stage. And I think what happens in

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America influences the entire West. I mean, whether you like

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it or not, it's just the way it is, right,

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And this is why I think Western Europeans have a

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lot of skin in the game. And I was really

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emotionally involved both like in all three elections twenty sixteen,

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twenty twenty and the recent one.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, I guess the only thing is I worry

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about what I Okay, First of all, you mentioned that

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Germany is occupied by the United States, and I would

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say the United States and Europe are occupied by a

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foreign power to us, a foreign ideology to us. So

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I think we're basically all we're all in the same boat.

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Although the United States being so powerful and the outcome

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of World War World War two, that's why Europe seems

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more like colonies of the United States. But the United

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States to me is like this gigantic force that is

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is still occupied. I mean, we're still occupied by the

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same people who are pushing all their influence upon not

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only Europe now they're pushing it into Ukraine and pushing

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it into pushing it upon Russia too. So I think

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if I was Russian, I'd i'd be worried about who

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the United States president is solely for how they're, what

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they're what their attitude would be towards you know, the country,

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towards Russia, but towards the Russian leadership.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I completely agree with you, and I think,

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I mean, the fact that Trump won the second time,

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I mean this year made a lot of Russians happy.

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I mean, I did a podcast with the Russian friend

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of mine in Moscow and he was telling me that

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like that, even the day after the election in Moscow,

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like people were smiling and you were sharing all the

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Trump means on their phones, talking about it in the

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cafes and everything. And I have a lot of friends

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in Russia and they also send me a lot of messages,

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you know how happy they are. And I know officially

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the Russian government did not, of course officially endorse Trump, right,

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and they even sort of endorse Kamala because I mean,

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I think it was like a ruse I didn't. I mean,

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that's what they said, but I don't think they really

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meant it, because they said, well, with Kamala, we know

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what we're going to get. It's just going to continue

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like Biden, so it's not going to be something unexpected,

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et cetera. But I think in reality, of course, I

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also wanted Trump to win. It's pretty obvious, right, I mean,

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also because Trump promised to end the war and promised

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to end to send military aid to Ukraine and therefore

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stop escalating situation there. Yeah, so I think you're absolutely

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right with what you were saying that. Of course Russian

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government is very interested always who's going to be the

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leader of the Western world, because that's the person they

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really have to deal with.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the subject of the book. I noticed

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from from reading the introductions. You know, obviously this this

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came out this year this year, but before the election,

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well before the election. Reading reading James Kirkpatrick's forward to it,

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seeing that he his take on it, but you can

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still see that I think he's writing in February or March,

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and you know he's anticipating Trump. Trump's in the lead.

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Can Trump be president? But taking into consideration that you

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cared enough to write a book about him, what was

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your opinion of what was going to happen this year

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is as far as the election, and did you think that,

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let's go before July thirteenth, which is going to be

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an infamous day because of you know, the speech in Pennsylvania.

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What did you think did you think he was going

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to win? Did you think they were going to steal

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it from him? Was the fix in? What was your opinion?

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Speaker 2: Well, I had like I didn't have a fixed opinion,

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to be honest, I was vacillating, right, So I thought

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at first, like when the book was published, I was

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very optimistic. I was very confident because I thought that

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you had a lot of support in the United States,

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especially in the heartland what is considered a flyover country.

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I mean obviously not in say New York, Los Angeles,

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but I knew that like in the majority part of

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the United States, in the parts that actually mattered, that

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he had, I mean, definite support. So I was very confident.

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Also when you saw all the rallies with all the people,

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you know, like for him, and compared it to the

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rallies that the Democrats staged, I mean, they were way

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more impressive. So I was very optimistic. Yeah, but as

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time went on, I don't know, I questioned my optimism.

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So I thought, you know, like I don't see any

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kind of I know, procedures being initiated from the Republican

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side to stop some quart of shenanigans that the Democrats

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might pull, like they probably did in twenty twenty, as

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many people allege. So I became a bit disheartened. I

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was like, I mean, what if the same thing's going

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to happen again, like in twenty twenty. I mean, it might, right,

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That's what I thought, And nobody's going to do anything

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about it because they really can't. So yeah, But then

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I became optimistic again because of like, really the grassroots support,

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especially after their the infamous incident in July. I mean,

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and when Elon Musk started supporting him, and then you

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had RFK and Talsy Gabbert, and then it became like

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much more than a right wing movement. It became a

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true populist movement, so basically the populists versus the establishment

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versus the elite basically, because you can't really, you can't

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really say that that trump Ism as a movement is

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right wing or even even strictly conservative anymore, right, I mean,

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it has transcended all boundaries in my opinion with the

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inclusion of all these people, because you can't really say that,

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I mean, Elon Musk is not really right wing, and

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neither stalls the Gabbard RFK. But all three of them

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have really prominent positions in the movement now, and all

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three of them are very valuable members of the Trumpist movement,

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in my opinions, are necessary ones, especially if you want

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to avoid something like World War three, right, so you

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need as much support as you can get from all sides.

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And this is what made me really optimistic again. So

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shortly before the election, maybe several weeks, I was pretty

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sure he was going to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then obviously he wins. I had one thing

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that I had been tracking was the removal of dead

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and ghost voters in many states like Pennsylvania had moved

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four hundred thousand names from the voter rolls. They did

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the same thing in Virginia. He lost Virginia. They did

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the same thing in a lot of states. And so

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that's what made me made me think, well, maybe that's

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the way they pulled it off the last time, and

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that'll help this time. And plus I'm just being here

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and being on the ground it just nobody support it.

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I mean, I know I live in Alabama, but I

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have people contacting me from the deepest blue places and

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they're like, I don't see Akmala sign anywhere. There's no support.

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No one's talking about this person. So I figured the

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only people that were going to vote for Kamala were

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the people who would vote for Kamala. They're just going

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to buy default vote for Kamala, and that basically everybody

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else is going to vote for Trump. And I mean,

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I think that's probably the way it turned out.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe some independence swung for Kamala because

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they're oh, Trump is, you know, too bombastic, He's divisive.

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We don't want that. But I think enough people were

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upset with their groceries tripling in the last four years

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and gasoline going up two dollars that they were just like,

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screw this, We're just gonna we need change, and even

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though it's really not changed, because we know what we're getting,

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we're going to go for it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I think. And I also think

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that a lot of people are just really sick of

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the woke bullshit that the Democratic I don't know, establishment

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keeps shoving down people's throats whether they like it or not,

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like all the transgender stuff that the LGBTQ, the hormonal

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treatments and BLM riots, ANTIFA riots and critical race theory,

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unisex bathrooms or transgender people using women's bathrooms, and like

475
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,160
weird cross stressing generals in the US military, making the

476
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:29,160
United States basically a laughing stock in the whole entire world. So,

477
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,920
I mean, and it's become too cartoonish, I think, and

478
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,599
I think it just didn't fly anymore with a lot

479
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,799
of people. People just couldn't take it. And I think,

480
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,559
in my opinion, it's probably also one of the main

481
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,640
reasons why so many people voted for Trump, because he

482
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:50,880
is adamantly opposed to this woke insanity basically, and also

483
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
think that evil must help a lot, like in the

484
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,880
end with X, because X is definitely the number one

485
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880
social medium, especially in the United States and well in

486
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,400
the entire West, and it is extremely influential. And the

487
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240
fact that he took control of it and basically allowed

488
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:10,960
I mean semi free speech because of course it's not

489
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,880
total free speech, but total free speech does not exist.

490
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,359
But I mean speech and acts is still free are

491
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,480
than on other social media. I mean, that's a fact,

492
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,359
and I think that also helped a lot. And I

493
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000
think RFK and like I said earlier, tells it gap

494
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,720
but also pulled a lot of Democrats into the Trump camp,

495
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,119
especially especially the anti war crowd, because people said, well,

496
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,680
we might disagree with pretty much everything that Trump says,

497
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,039
but we don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust,

498
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,839
so he's still a better choice. Even if they say, Okay,

499
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:46,240
maybe maybe Kamala has better ideas, you know, with gay

500
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:51,519
rights and social health care, etc. But we still don't

501
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,359
want to die, so we're going to vote for Trump anyway.

502
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:55,039
I think that's another reason.

503
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,559
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something specific to the book, then

504
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,799
I think, you know, I think we can agree. Another

505
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,440
reason why he won is because of immigration. Immigration into

506
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480
this country is just completely insane, and especially the things

507
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,799
that started coming out with Haitians being imported in here

508
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,240
in Moss like in the last you know, three or

509
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:18,880
four years. And once that started getting out, I think

510
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,720
people started freaking out, and even people who would normally

511
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,279
that wouldn't be their hot button issue, I think it

512
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:30,720
became their hot button issue. It's obvious that Trump is

513
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,680
not a white nationalist. He's he's an American, He's a

514
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,519
Civil Rights Act American. He's uh, he's someone who wants

515
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,000
to see American America be prosperous. Doesn't seem like he

516
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,680
really cares who does that as long as they love

517
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,680
the country. But you you also talked about in your book,

518
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,480
and you know, remind people it's called esoteric trump Ism

519
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,759
about America's race question. So what do you how do

520
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,160
you think that all ties in with the UH, with

521
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:03,319
immigration and people balls, you know, people wanting immigration stopped

522
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,359
or at this point many people just saying it needs

523
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,200
to be reversed and we need to see remigration.

524
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Trump even mentioned the word remigration in one

525
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,400
of his tweets, which I found very interesting because the

526
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,480
whole topic of remigration is extremely popular, I mean especially

527
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,960
in Europe because you know, the Austring guy, Martin Selna,

528
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,680
he also spoke at the American Renaissance conference. He popularized.

529
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880
He even wrote a book called Remigration, which was on

530
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,160
the German Amazon bestseller list number one for like weeks. Right,

531
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,000
insanely popular. People go crazy over this word in the

532
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,839
media here. I'm not sure if it's the same in

533
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,920
the us. I mean, I mean, I know deportation. People

534
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,319
talk about it all the time, mass deportations now, which

535
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,319
is great, of course, right, But like you said, it's

536
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,640
not enough because even if you deport all the if

537
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,680
you deport all the illegals, which is in my opinion,

538
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,839
not even possible, right, Like, logistically it's very difficult. And

539
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880
I don't think he will deport twenty million personally. I mean,

540
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,039
he definitely will deport some, but it's definitely not going

541
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,839
to deport all of them. I think because he can't,

542
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,680
like he can't build the wall, he can't build a

543
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,839
proper wall. How can he possibly deport twenty million people?

544
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,559
I mean if he was, if he was the king

545
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:21,240
or the emperor, he probably could. But he's not, right,

546
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,480
he's not that powerful, so they will throw all kinds

547
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,119
of obstacles at him, of course. Yeah. So just just

548
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,880
real quick, because you mentioned the Haitians, it's pretty funny.

549
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,119
But because when Trump mentioned like eating the eating the

550
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,559
eating urcats and dogs, I mean, it was so hilarious.

551
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,880
I don't even know if it's true, right, because I

552
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,680
hear different accounts, but it's just so.

553
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I lived in South Florida for nineteen years and South

554
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,519
Florida has the largest Haitian population outside of Haiti. It

555
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,640
may even be bigger than Haiti. That's very real.

556
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I believe it. I believe that's right. I

557
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000
just thought it was funny that came such a huge meme,

558
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:04,559
especially with that song. And it's because my daughter, she

559
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,720
goes to school here into high school in Germany, and

560
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:11,000
she has no idea about like Trump or politics, you know.

561
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:14,320
I mean, she was twelve at the time, and even

562
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,800
she came home like one day singing this song and

563
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,320
she had no idea what it meant or where it

564
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,880
came from. She just thought it was some cute, funny song.

565
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880
So I thought it was quite hilarious, to be honest,

566
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,960
how far it has spread like this meme? Well, talking

567
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,760
about the race question, because in my book that I

568
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,000
take a sort of contradictory view of the matter, right,

569
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,559
Because on the one hand, I think America, I mean,

570
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,440
was founded originally as a white republic. Yes, I mean,

571
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,880
if you look at the founding fathers and look at

572
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,280
their writings, their speeches, et cetera, and what they actually said,

573
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,519
I mean, it's pretty obvious that they wanted the United

574
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,440
States to be a country that was reserved exclusi for

575
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,440
white people, right, I mean, I mean Indians weren't citizens

576
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,119
until the twentieth century. I mean neither were blacks or

577
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:10,880
any other racial group. As a matter of fact, even

578
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,880
women weren't considered like false citizens, you know, with all

579
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,440
the same rights until quite late in the game. So

580
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:20,920
pretty much like a like a like a white male

581
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,719
dominated republic. I mean, that was the idea, in my opinion,

582
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,920
a beautiful idea, right. Unfortunately, it didn't work out, as

583
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,679
we all know, because you had I mean nineteen sixty

584
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,920
five when it all went down the toilet pretty much, right,

585
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,079
I mean, you had great people in America, like great

586
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,519
race scientists, people writing about race, like Lothrop Start or

587
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:49,960
Madison Grant, who were actually so influential at the beginning

588
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,920
of the twentieth century, like in the nineteen twenties and

589
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,599
nineteen thirties, that even the National Socialist regime was actually

590
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:01,159
heavily influenced by these people, right, and published German translations

591
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:08,440
of Lovethrop Starter's book, Madison Grant's book. And they envisioned

592
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:14,960
sort of like a white say Faustian America and America

593
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,480
that is built on just the will of the white

594
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:24,800
Man to construct something out of nothing, to create something great,

595
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:32,480
and then always go further to explore and conquer new frontiers.

596
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,719
First it was the West, and then later on it

597
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,960
became the space race, you know, always further. I mean

598
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,960
it's in Hareent, in the in the white Man. This

599
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,440
this drive obviously, this this Faustian impulse. But Oswald Spengler, right,

600
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:52,800
the German philosopher who wrote the famous book The Decline

601
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,760
of the West, also in the nineteen twenties, so one

602
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,159
hundred years ago, he already said the West is on

603
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:03,960
its way out. So Oswolds Spangler compared civilizations to organisms.

604
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:08,119
Since they're born, they grew up, they're mature, then they

605
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:11,760
grow old, and then they die. And he pretty much

606
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,840
that the West is already in a senile stage. It's

607
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,840
already close to death, basically. And that was a hundred

608
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,840
years ago, imagine, right, so even before World War two,

609
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,800
I mean World War one was over, he had already

610
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:33,320
thought this. So basically he said that the Faustian impulse

611
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:39,079
is basically a sign of a declining civilization because he said, first,

612
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,760
you have cultures. So when they blossom, these organisms their cultures,

613
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,400
and when they enter the stage of decline, they become civilizations.

614
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,719
So civilizations already senile cultures basically in decaying cultures. And

615
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,960
this is where I mean he said, and the Faustian

616
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:02,519
drive is basically already a sign of decline because you're

617
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:05,679
not satisfied with what you have, so has it has

618
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,760
a dark site, this Faustian impulse. So going back, sorry,

619
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,039
going back to the race question for a bit sidetracked here.

620
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:20,599
So the Faustian impulse is part of the white man's nature.

621
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Everything was perverted in nineteen sixty five. So now America

622
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,599
is a multiracial, multicultural country. I mean, it just is.

623
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,800
It's a fact, right, I mean you can say what

624
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920
you want, but it still is. So I mean, what

625
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,519
are white? It's not like about fifty percent. I guess

626
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,039
it's still about half. I mean it's not enough, right,

627
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,800
I mean it's now officially a multi ethnic, multiracial, multi confessional,

628
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,599
Malti everything country. I don't think it's ever going to

629
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,000
go back to a white majority country. It's not realistic.

630
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,639
I think it cannot be done. I mean I'm quite

631
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:57,280
pessimistic and black piled about this. But it doesn't mean

632
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,679
that you just have to give up and everything's all right,

633
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,880
because I believe that you can have a sort of

634
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,519
ethnic pluralist solution possibly, And I mean I was. I

635
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:11,079
was in Los Angeles, for example, in March, and I

636
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,960
find Los Angeles quite interesting as a city I considered

637
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,679
as like an example of a Western city of the

638
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,159
future because it's it's it embodies the ethnic pluralist principle

639
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:24,239
because you walk around and you have like Koreatown, Chinatown,

640
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,360
Little Tokyo, you have the Mexican part, and they're all

641
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,880
very self contained, like you don't see a lot of

642
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,639
intermingling going on. I mean, just from my that was.

643
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: That was that was That was New York City fifty

644
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,880
one hundred years ago. I mean that you had West

645
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,280
German neighborhoods. I mean had like Southern German neighborhoods where

646
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,920
you know, people who from the North of Germany didn't

647
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,920
didn't come in there, but the North German neighborhood was too,

648
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,199
was two blocks over.

649
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,159
Speaker 2: Interesting, right, Yeah, But don't you think don't you think

650
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,920
it's still true in America today though, that people automatic

651
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,559
self segregate I mean mostly.

652
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:06,079
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, as long as they're allowed to, as long

653
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:13,039
as they're not engineered into some kind of you. You

654
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,679
will see engineering in certain parts where they'll try and integrate.

655
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:23,519
And you know, whenever somebody does a what do they

656
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:27,440
call when a gentrification, you never you never one hundred

657
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,199
percent get rid of the who was there before. So

658
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,920
but yeah, I think left to our own devices. I

659
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,039
mean the town I live in is there's a black

660
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,360
population here and they live in their own section as

661
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,639
compared to where all the other European whites live in

662
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,760
their own sections too, of.

663
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,639
Speaker 2: Course, I mean it's like this everywhere in the US.

664
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,880
I mean just also from my personal experience, I traveled

665
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,039
extensively in America, and I think I think the only

666
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,760
thing that you need is freedom of association basically, right,

667
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,599
which in you up and in the US you don't

668
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,880
really have anymore because it's been banned. Right. So I mean,

669
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,159
once you, once you can regain true freedom of association,

670
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,639
I think then you have a lot of opportunities to

671
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:18,719
perpetuate your your race, your ethnicity, or your own tribe,

672
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,280
your group basically I mean for the people that truly

673
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,159
want to write because not every not every member of you,

674
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,800
of your race or your ethnic group wants to be

675
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,960
really a part of it. Right, A lot of people

676
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:35,360
prefer to live in I know, and I say mixed

677
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,079
race marriages and they have no problem with it. Right.

678
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,679
And if you have freedom of association, I should have

679
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:43,679
a right to have their own communities if they want.

680
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Why not? Right, So, I mean I'm pretty pretty liberal

681
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:53,480
when it comes to that, right, because you can't enforce association.

682
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:58,119
You can force people to prefer one group over another.

683
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,880
It's just ridiculous, right, And you can and force affinity.

684
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:06,400
Like if you just strongly dislike one certain group for

685
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,159
whatever reason, you should have the right to dislike the group,

686
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,000
right as long as you'd obviously, as long as you

687
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,039
don't turn violent against the group or aggressive. You know.

688
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,719
It's like I know, I know, I like some people

689
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,559
like coke. They don't like PEPSI. I mean, it's just

690
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:23,920
the way it is, right, So you can force them

691
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,719
to drink PEPSI.

692
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of a lot of the

693
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,079
people on on our side don't get that. Like, there

694
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:37,400
are people in this country who they will marry somebody

695
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,159
outside of their race and they're not even thinking. They're

696
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,960
not doing it on purpose, they're doing it because they

697
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:48,000
haven't been taught. That's it's just not a consideration that

698
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,639
they would just stay within their own race. And then

699
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:54,639
when they do it, they automatically get it. If you know,

700
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,159
say they go on social media and someone finds out, oh,

701
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,960
they married and you know, this white European an Asian woman,

702
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,239
they immediately start attacking them. And don't what do you

703
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,960
expect when you attack somebody that you're going to first

704
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,840
of all, that they're just going to like immediately break

705
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
their family up and leave their wife and everything. So

706
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,559
basically all you're doing is beating them up, and then

707
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:18,079
they're going to be on your side. No, Basically, what

708
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,480
you're doing is you're saying, Okay, you're my enemy now

709
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,920
because you did this, you betrayed the white race. When

710
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,280
they act like it was like, oh, I'm going to

711
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,960
do this to betray my ancestors because you know, fuck

712
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:34,920
my ancestors, and I don't know, doesn't make any sense.

713
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,039
Speaker 2: I find it totally ridiculous, to be honest, because I mean,

714
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,280
so called race mixing has been going on for hundreds,

715
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000
if not even thousands of years, right, I mean you

716
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:48,679
had like all the all the Spanish conquista words, like

717
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,920
a large percentage of them took like Indian wives in

718
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840
South America. I mean a lot of the North Americans

719
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,320
took Indian wives, and I don't know black wives, et cetera.

720
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,239
Chinese wives, I mean yeah. To be honest, I have

721
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,599
no problem with it. I don't really care. I would

722
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,360
never demonize anybody for their own personal choice in mats, right,

723
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,280
Like if if you choose to to marry a Chinese women, like,

724
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,440
why should I criticize you for it? I mean you,

725
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,880
you you're the one that's gonna live with that woman,

726
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,039
and if that won't makes you happy and you have

727
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,840
a happy marriage, like, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

728
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,199
I find that grotesque to even to even discuss, to

729
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:30,760
the opinion. To be honest, I think the only problem

730
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,159
I have is that the establishment, like the mainstream media,

731
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,599
they're pushing this agenda, right, because I find it perfectly normal, right.

732
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:44,360
But what I don't find normal is this this grotesque

733
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:48,880
pushing of this of this race mixing agenda on all

734
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,679
on all media, basically in all commercials, like you barely

735
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,800
see like I mean, I think in the US, or

736
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,679
in Germany or in the entire Western world, the mainstream

737
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,239
commercials you like ever ever see a purely white couple anymore.

738
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:07,320
It's either a black man with a white wife or

739
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,719
a white man I don't know with a Chinese wife,

740
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,519
and always mixed children, always, always, every single one of them.

741
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,000
And I mean this is obviously done by design, right,

742
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,679
And I mentioned this in my book, by the Way,

743
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,800
esoteric Trumpism. I think Netflix is another good example of

744
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,920
this is I mean, it all goes hand in hand.

745
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,880
This is also this falsification of history. It's totally bizarre,

746
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,599
like you have this like Bridgerton. Is this this TV show?

747
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:36,239
I'm sure you've probably heard of it. It's very popular

748
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,000
on Netflix. It's like nineteenth century England, except the queen

749
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,639
is black and lords are all kinds of different races,

750
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,119
you know. And of course it was never like this,

751
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,360
as we all know, right, it was almost one hundred

752
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,159
percent white country at the time, with a few I

753
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:58,360
don't know non whites sprinkled in. But now kids watch

754
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,320
this TV show, right, and they will think that's how

755
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,239
England was one hundred and fifty years ago. And so

756
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,280
if it was like this one hundred and fifty years ago,

757
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,360
why are these crazy right wing people complaining about all

758
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,880
the i mean non Europeans on the street because I mean,

759
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,719
don't they belong here when they're always here? They were,

760
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,880
I mean, I just saw it on Netflix. I mean,

761
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,840
this is I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and

762
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,559
I don't subscribe to many conspiracy theories, but this is

763
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,400
definitely a conspiracy. I mean, it's it's just too obvious

764
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,480
to me. And this is what I don't like, because

765
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,079
it's not natural. It's being pushed artificially.

766
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,679
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm sure the people who make this quote

767
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,960
unquote are if pushed upon, they'll admit it, especially the

768
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,039
commer the people who are making the commercials.

769
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: You know.

770
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,159
Speaker 1: I'm one of these people who believes that left to

771
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,880
their own devices, people are just going to gravitate to

772
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,840
their own They're they're going to you know, whether it

773
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,800
be a mate, whether it be anything, you know, anything.

774
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,840
I think that a lot of you know, people marry

775
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,599
outside of their racing college. They meet people in college

776
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:09,599
because colleges are such mixed mixed groups and everything, and

777
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,280
on the job. Obviously could most people meet their mate

778
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:17,000
on the job, But it is being pushed and one

779
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:20,239
of the things by it by pushing it, it becomes normalized,

780
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,320
and then people don't think about it. You know, a

781
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,920
lot of the guys on our side are like, well,

782
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,239
don't you want you know, don't you want your kids

783
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,800
to look like you? And I think everybody would if

784
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,920
they thought about it, But it's so pushed and everybody

785
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,039
gets so brainwashed by it that there's you know that well,

786
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,920
I mean no, there's you know, everyone's the same and

787
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,599
you know, a sixty five IQ Somali and a one

788
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,519
hundred and twenty five IQ Suite or the same basically

789
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,519
because we're all people. And I mean we've been brainwashed

790
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:53,559
into that for a century now, you know, since at

791
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:58,079
least since World War Two. So I mean, unless somebody

792
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:01,519
is actually pushing that, I'm gonna cut him slack, and

793
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:03,280
I'm not gonna yell. I'm not gonna yell at him.

794
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,079
Unless they're saying, oh no, this is what we have

795
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:06,519
to do. You know, white people need to do it.

796
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,760
You know, white people need to marry you know, people

797
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,599
of color or people from Asia or anything. Then I

798
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:15,639
don't I mean, that person is obviously being subversive. But

799
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,360
somebody who just meets somebody and you know, falls in

800
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,960
love with him beat him up in the street because

801
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,599
of it, Well no, well we just beat him up

802
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,559
online because we're anonymous, and you know, no one can

803
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400
smack you in the mouth for saying something.

804
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: Well, I come gletely agree with you, and I also

805
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:37,559
find it very distasteful, like certain people online attacking Chady

806
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:40,960
Vans because he has an Indian wife. It's it's disgusting

807
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,320
in my opinion, right, I mean, I think Chady Vans

808
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,199
is one of the greatest men that America has at

809
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:49,320
the moment, and he's extremely important. I find him more

810
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,440
interesting than Trump, to be honest. I mean, I read

811
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,360
his book He'll Be the Ellergy, where he talks like

812
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,880
literally about the plight of the of the white working

813
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,960
class and the appellations. And I listened to a lot

814
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,960
of his speeches, read a lot of his stuff, soize

815
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,840
debates and everything. He's extremely smart and intelligent. He's a

816
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,119
tradition is Catholic to boot. I mean, he's one hundred

817
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:12,400
percent on our side. And the fact that he's married

818
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,880
to an Indian woman does not bother me one ioda,

819
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,920
to be honest, not even a little bit. So I

820
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,360
don't understand these people at all. And I'm quite opposed

821
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,239
to this practice. I mean, for this practice of personally

822
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,960
attacking people for their personal choices. I would never engage

823
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000
in this ever. And yeah, like you said, the problem

824
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,320
is it's being pushed and being normalized, because if it

825
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,079
wasn't pushed or normalized, it would still happen, but not

826
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:42,360
on such a massive scale, right, And that's how it

827
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,840
always was, because you always had a certain amount of

828
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,119
mixed race couples, even in Victorian England, but not as many,

829
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:51,760
and they weren't vocal about it, and they weren't so visible,

830
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,920
and there was a difference, and even back then, nobody

831
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,079
cared about it, right because there were still decent human beings.

832
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,760
That's my opinion. I'm a good exact by the way,

833
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,639
talking about the establishment and pushing this narrative. It's a

834
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:08,039
Lord of the Rings, right because like you said, if this,

835
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,960
if this stuff is not being pushed aggressively, then people

836
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,760
usually gravity towards their own which is completely true. And

837
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,719
this is the reason I think that Peter Jackson's trilogy

838
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,840
The Lord of the Rings was so insanely popular. It's

839
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,440
because it was an all white cast basically because it

840
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:31,000
is based on purely North European mythology, right, and Northern

841
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:34,960
Europeans happened to be all white, and people just loved it,

842
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,920
right because it really reflected who they are and they

843
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,480
saw themselves in it, and it was just beautiful. And

844
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:43,119
now you have now you have a new version by Amazon,

845
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:47,000
and now you have black Hobbits and Chinese dwarfs and

846
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:50,559
Hispanic elves and whatever, and and and people just don't

847
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,320
want to watch it. It's it's being a lamb bested left

848
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,159
and right, and rightfully so in my opinion. And it's

849
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,199
and and yeah, they're losing money these studios, same with

850
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:02,719
the Star Wars and all that stuff, but they still

851
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,039
do it, which means ideology for them is more important

852
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:07,239
than business obviously.

853
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: Well, there's something that's never been mentioned on my show before,

854
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,880
and I've never even thought to. It's never across my

855
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,880
mind to do an episode on it, just because there's

856
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,400
so many things I can do an episode on. I

857
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,639
always forget about it. But Gillem Phay's concept of archaeo futurism,

858
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:28,800
and you talk about it in the Bill. You have

859
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,920
a chapter on it relating it to Trump in the

860
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:35,639
Let me see what the title of the chapter is.

861
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:41,000
Trump and Archaeo Futurism a reflection through Guillem Fhay's visionary eyes,

862
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,760
can you give everybody an introduction into exactly what you'd

863
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,679
be talking about there?

864
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: So. Gillemphi was a French philosopher, one of the most

865
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:54,719
important representatives of what is called the French New righte

866
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,880
started in the late sixties and early seventies. He died

867
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,880
a couple of years ago, unfortunately well. His most famous

868
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,199
idea is called archaeo futurism, and the word itself, archaeo futurism,

869
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,159
consists of two parts, like you have archaeo and futurism,

870
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,360
and it was revolutionary at the time and it's still

871
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,199
revolutionary now because what he advocates is that we should

872
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:29,559
basically not condemn technological progress, because he believed in the

873
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:33,119
in the Faustian spirit of Western Man that we discussed before,

874
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:35,800
and he thought it was in the nature of Western

875
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,760
Man to always go further and discover new things and

876
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,800
invent new things. And he said we should embrace new technology,

877
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,360
including space travel. And he famously said that that all

878
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:49,519
I mean, most of the of the NASA rockets and

879
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:55,400
spaceships are named after European pagan gods and not Jesus

880
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,119
or Jehovah right or Moses so. And he said it

881
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:03,880
was very symbolic of the of the purely European spirit

882
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:10,159
that drives endeavors like colonizing space. And he said it's

883
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,320
very important not to fight against this like some people

884
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,000
on the right do today, because you have certain people

885
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,159
traditionalists that are totally opposed to any kind of like

886
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,239
modern technology. They think and artificial intelligence is satanic and

887
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:28,079
should be banned, and space travel, space travel is stupid

888
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,880
and evil, and we should just focus on our planet

889
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,639
and celebrate rituals in the forest or whatever. Right, So

890
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,639
pmfis it, this is all nonsense. We must imprase technology,

891
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,800
we must embrace progress, but at the same time we

892
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,000
must value our heritage. And that's where the archaeopart comes in, right,

893
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:54,280
So it basically a fusion of technological advancement and ancestor

894
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960
worship at the same time. Because he said, you can

895
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:01,239
easily create a link from say and the Roman Empire,

896
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,920
the Greek city states to colonies on Mars, because it's

897
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,400
the same people that do it with the same spirit

898
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,760
and the same drive. And as long as you see

899
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,199
the line of ancestors behind you that led to where

900
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,000
we are today, then you're acting in a traditional manner

901
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,360
and you're honoring I mean your people, your ethnicity or

902
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:30,559
your race. And I think his solution is extremely valuable

903
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:34,000
and I should be followed in my opinion. And it's

904
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:38,480
quite interesting because because I managed the arcts account on

905
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,000
X and I posted this image on the arc dos

906
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:45,840
x account. It's like some Greek temple with like some

907
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,920
spaceships in the background, and I just wrote archaic futurism

908
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,280
at the bottom, and even Elon Musk liked it and

909
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,800
he commented on it right, and immediately got like five

910
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,119
or six hundred thousand views as a result. And again

911
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,199
this makes me very op simistic because and this is

912
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:03,519
how I tie it into Trump, right, because you have

913
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:06,079
a person like Elon Musk now, and Elon Musk is

914
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:11,119
basically the Howard us On twenty first century right, Like

915
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,079
he's a true I mean, it doesn't matter if you

916
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:18,559
agree with what he says or is certain with ideological viewpoints,

917
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,320
it's quite irrelevant in my opinion. But overall, he's a

918
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:27,159
truly Faustian visionary and I fully endorse his idea to

919
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,280
colonize the Red planet. I think it's extremely important actually,

920
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,960
in my opinion and important. It supersedes almost everything to

921
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,360
become multiplanetary for many, many reasons. And to have this

922
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,760
person in the Trump administration together with a person like

923
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,840
Jade Evans, who's a traditionalist Catholic, I mean not the

924
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:52,519
mainstream Catholic automatically somehow makes this administration an archaeo futurist one,

925
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:58,159
in my opinion, following certain precepts of Fine, I think

926
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:01,679
if gm PHI was alive today, he would have definitely

927
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,159
endorsed what's going on right now in American politics with

928
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,559
a new administration coming in next year in January.

929
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: Well, we're coming up on an hour, but I wanted

930
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,079
to get this from you, because you know, the election

931
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,400
is over. Trump won, unlike last time, he like immediately

932
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,920
put his cabinet out there. He's like, we're going to

933
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,760
get people, unlike twenty sixteen. We're going to get people

934
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,320
in places, get people working, start whatever their whatever their

935
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,920
plans are, whatever they're doing behind the scenes. From what

936
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,760
you've seen so far, you know, you're somebody obviously who

937
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:46,199
has if you're going to write a book about Trump,

938
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,239
you you've been studying this man. What do you think

939
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,199
happens from here, what do you think, you know, considering

940
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,719
everything that's going on in the world, everything that's going

941
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,400
to fall into his lap immediately, what do you think

942
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,000
happens with him? What do you see the next four

943
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:02,639
years going?

944
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those things it's really impossible

945
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,880
to predict. I can tell you what I want to happen, right,

946
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:15,360
and what could happen. So I think it's just my

947
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:21,480
personal prediction here. I think Trump twenty twenty four is

948
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:26,400
a lot more radical than Trump twenty sixteen, because well,

949
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,039
he cannot run again. It's his second term. I mean,

950
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:34,079
he's almost eighty years old. He has nothing to lose,

951
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,880
in my opinion, and I think the fact that he

952
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,519
quote unquote lost in twenty twenty taught him many lessons

953
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:47,719
about the deep state that he ignored in his twenty

954
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,960
sixteen term or was even oblivious to it. I think

955
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,639
he knows exactly. I mean, maybe not exactly, but I

956
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:59,119
think he's pretty much in the know of what's really

957
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,119
going on, who's really in charge in the United States

958
00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:04,880
when you talk about the deep state and the military

959
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:11,119
industrial complex, et cetera. And I think he's going to

960
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:19,960
try to push a new American narrative into the limelight,

961
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,559
meaning the populist one. So I think he's very honest

962
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:25,320
when he says that he wants to fight for the

963
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,880
for the common American man, and I don't know, make

964
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,000
America grade again. And how can you make America grade again?

965
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:35,159
I mean Trump said it many times, right, don't get

966
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:43,000
entangled in form military adventures because you don't gain anything

967
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,880
from this, right. I mean, the America spent trillions of

968
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,079
taxpayer dollars in Afghanistan, like trillions of dollars and occupy

969
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:58,440
Afghanistan for close to twenty years, and they left with

970
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,400
the same people in power that will empower when they

971
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,719
went in. I mean, it is hugely embarrassing in my opinion, obviously,

972
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,840
I mean, what is the point of all this? The

973
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,360
same with Ukraine, and I mean Trump says this. JD.

974
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,039
Van said it the other day. He said, like, it's

975
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:18,800
really not in America's interests what's going on in Ukraine

976
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:21,960
because we don't benefit from this. And he's right, because

977
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,239
how does America benefit from it? A lot of people

978
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,239
were outraged, of course, the mainstream media like Jdvans is

979
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,679
selfish and Trump is selfish and want to destroy the

980
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,880
quote unquote rules based order and all the other nonsense

981
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,119
terms they come up with. But in the end, I

982
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:38,440
think what Trump is trying to do, and I'm not

983
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,559
sure if he's going to succeed in this term, because

984
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:42,519
it's I think it's a long term project, is to

985
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:47,719
make America more isolationists again, right, Basically, retreat from the

986
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:51,159
world stage, focus on your own problems, build up your

987
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,320
own infrastructure, focus on the space program, stop interfering in

988
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,920
other people's affairs, and stop forcing your way of life

989
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,719
on other people that want they have nothing to do

990
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,760
with it. Right. It's basically the age of multipolarity, so

991
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,119
that people like the Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin propagate because

992
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,119
until recently you had a unipolar world with America as

993
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:16,039
a hyper power, not even a superpower like all powerful.

994
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:19,159
But these days are over because now you have China,

995
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:21,760
you have a rise in India, you have Russia, you

996
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,360
have the Islamic world, and they will not be dictated

997
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,840
to by the US anymore. And the US is not

998
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
strong enough anymore to do it even if they wanted to.

999
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,039
And the US realizes it, right, And that's why I

1000
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,920
think it's being so aggressive on the world stage. It's

1001
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840
basically an empire in its death throws right on its

1002
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,960
way out, like flailing wildly with its arms, you know,

1003
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,840
becoming more and more aggressive. And several people have said

1004
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,559
this an empire and decline is the most dangerous time

1005
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,920
because you have to be very careful. And a lot

1006
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,000
of people realize this. So, I mean, they want to

1007
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:58,000
escalate things all over the world, but a lot of

1008
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,559
people like clearhead of people and count Putin among these people,

1009
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:05,960
and they should should be praised for the level headedness

1010
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,760
and and and the fact that they don't react as

1011
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,519
they could, you know, in this situation. So and I

1012
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:18,159
think Trump also realizes this. And I think Trump is

1013
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,000
very honest when he says that he wants to end

1014
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,239
the conflict in Ukraine and or at least take America

1015
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,320
out of it, and by taking America out of it,

1016
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,880
obviously going to end it anyway. And I think he's

1017
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,719
serious about it, and I think he's going to do it.

1018
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,519
And I think the Russians are looking forward to Trump

1019
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:35,079
coming into power, and that's a powder keg, you know,

1020
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:37,840
as we all know, the whole Ukraine thing. So let's

1021
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,400
hope he succeeds. So to end this conflict. Let's hope

1022
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,400
that he pulls America out of other areas in the

1023
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,760
world where it does not belong, hopefully also Germany, even

1024
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,679
though that's that's probably a far off dream. I mean,

1025
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:58,440
he mentioned it in his first term. He said that

1026
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:01,920
he would pull out the US troops from Germany. What

1027
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:05,039
many people are upset, including the German establishment of course,

1028
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:10,559
as the vassals that they are. So this is what

1029
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:13,000
I think will happen. I think he's going to slowly,

1030
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,440
step by step pull back from the world stage, meaning

1031
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,639
America's role as the global policeman, focus more on internal

1032
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:28,199
issues like immigration, illegal immigration, the border, and infrastructure and

1033
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:32,159
the space program hopefully. So this is what I hope

1034
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:34,679
will happen. And I'm optimistic, So I think it will happen.

1035
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,320
And I hope we'll get a multi generational mega administration.

1036
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:43,440
So I hope after Trump hopefully gets maybe JD. Evans

1037
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:47,280
for two terms, right, so, because otherwise it's all for nothing,

1038
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,440
because if you have this for four years and then

1039
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,239
you have another person like Biden or or Kamala or

1040
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:55,920
whatever in power, they will just tear down everything you

1041
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,440
build up.

1042
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the The whole gist of everything

1043
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,599
is that in two in twenty twenty eight and twenty

1044
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,360
thirty two, you're going to have to have a continuation

1045
01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:14,719
of this kind of energy, because not everything's going to

1046
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,599
be solved in one term or two years. You know,

1047
01:03:17,639 --> 01:03:19,800
they put oh, Doze is going to be gone in

1048
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,320
two years, Department of Government Efficiency will be gone in

1049
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,800
two years. Well, I mean this isn't maybe for maybe

1050
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,880
for immediate goals, maybe for one term goals, but for

1051
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:35,559
future goals, you're going to need a few administrations in

1052
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:38,000
order to even achieve the kind of thing you're talking about.

1053
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,519
Because you hear a lot of people talking about the

1054
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:45,239
Marshall Plan now, which would be not the Marshall Plan,

1055
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,880
the Monroe doctrine, where the United States would have influence

1056
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,760
in their zone, Russia would have influenced Russia and China

1057
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,639
can fight for influence over there and just let everybody

1058
01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:04,719
have their own. Let whoever is the most prosperous, the

1059
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:13,199
most forward thinking, maybe that they would look at their

1060
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,000
area of the world and let other let other areas

1061
01:04:18,039 --> 01:04:22,320
of the world, let the let them do what they're

1062
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,320
going to do. Because the age of you know, NATO,

1063
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,039
NATO basically is now just where retired neo cons go

1064
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:35,480
to go to work, and you know, so they can

1065
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:39,800
continue the insanity that they've been producing for you know,

1066
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,440
seventy five years now. But yeah, I think that we

1067
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:47,119
just we have to worry about our own little space

1068
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:50,239
here and then let others do what they're going to

1069
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:54,119
do over there. I don't think Putin, no matter what

1070
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:56,159
anybody believes, I don't think Putin's a threat to the

1071
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,079
United States or to Europe as long as he's left

1072
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:01,480
alone to do what he wants to do, as long

1073
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:07,800
as they leave Russia alone. And right now it seems

1074
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,159
like they're it almost seems like they're trying to start

1075
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:14,599
World War three before Trump gets in there to completely

1076
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,360
that they're willing to risk nukes being dropped in order

1077
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,079
to destroy anything he would do or even you know,

1078
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:33,320
have the government be basically a gigantic nuclear you know,

1079
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,320
trying to figure out how to win a nuclear war

1080
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,280
and put it. January twentieth can't come fast enough. As

1081
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,880
far as I'm concerned.

1082
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. And again, you

1083
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,480
can't praise Putin enough for being as level headed as

1084
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,840
he is for not falling into this strap that the

1085
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,639
current administration is trying to set for him. So a

1086
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:59,719
lot of people actually say that Putin is a dictator,

1087
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,800
he's evil, you know, he must he must be deposed.

1088
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:06,039
But what these people don't understand is that Putin is

1089
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:12,360
pretty moderate right in Russian terms, because if Putin actually

1090
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,760
leaves office, the person that is going to succeed Putin

1091
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,079
might be a real hardliner, a real nationalist, and not

1092
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:22,280
a level headed person. So people should be thankful that

1093
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,119
it's a person like Putin in power in Russia who

1094
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:31,079
is calmly reacting to this unbelievable acts of aggression that

1095
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:35,639
Russia has to endure from the West on almost daily basis.

1096
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:40,559
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I learned from the Tucker interview is

1097
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:44,559
that Putin knows his history. He knows the history of

1098
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,480
his country. He knows the history of his people. The

1099
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:49,400
worst thing that you could the worst thing that could

1100
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,639
happen to Russia is somebody gets in there who doesn't

1101
01:06:52,679 --> 01:06:57,679
know that history, because once somebody we see it in

1102
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:01,519
this country, whenever somebody gets in charge who ignores the

1103
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:05,679
history of who we are, everything goes to crap. Everything.

1104
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:14,199
It's a seek to modernize, seek to a progressive kind

1105
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:19,880
of kind of ideal or just to change change who

1106
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,679
we are. And so that's what I'm hoping that whoever

1107
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,800
takes over for Putin has that same kind of historical knowledge,

1108
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,559
because I think that kind of historical knowledge, when someone

1109
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:35,119
has that kind of historical knowledge, they want to preserve

1110
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:38,360
it and they want to preserve its people. And the

1111
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,360
worst thing that could happen is someone who gets in

1112
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,320
there who doesn't care about that.

1113
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any such risk, to be honest,

1114
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,960
because I mean I know Russian's fairly well because I

1115
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,639
lived in Russia for twelve years, and I would say

1116
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:57,840
in general Russians are much better educated than Americans or

1117
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:02,119
Western Europeans as well. Well. I mean, they can still

1118
01:08:02,199 --> 01:08:05,800
quote poems by heart that they learned in high school

1119
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:11,719
in different languages that they had to memorize, like good Burns, Shakespeare,

1120
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:16,359
et cetera, Pushkin of course at length like long points right,

1121
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,199
So that's quite amazing. And they all know their history

1122
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:27,199
fairly well. And patriotism is the norm in Russia, while

1123
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:29,439
it is an aberration in the West. I mean it's

1124
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,560
it's a complete I mean, the West is basically a

1125
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,479
bizarro world if you look at I mean, can compare

1126
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,319
to the Superman comics, right, you have like Superman that

1127
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,359
the normal superhero, and then you have bizarro Superman, where

1128
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,079
everything is the opposite. And I think that's pretty much

1129
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:48,520
the case with Russia and the West. So I mean,

1130
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,439
I don't know in Germany, you see in West Germany

1131
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,319
like Frankfurt or Brulin, or in America probably the same,

1132
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:01,000
like in New York somewhere Manhattan a cafe and you

1133
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:05,000
talk about the AfD the alternative for Germany. In Germany

1134
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:07,720
in positive terms, like people will attack you because if

1135
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,640
they overhear your conversation from like neighboring tables. And I

1136
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,319
think it's probably the same in the US probably if

1137
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,000
you talk about Trump too positively or I certain other

1138
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:23,399
issues that are considered too patriotic to reactionary by the

1139
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,520
establishment or the mainstream. But the opposite is the case

1140
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,720
in Russia, right, I mean there, if you say such things,

1141
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,079
most the vast majority of people will agree with you,

1142
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:36,960
and it will invite you for drinks. And that's just

1143
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,239
the way it is. So it's a completely, in my opinion,

1144
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:45,279
normal society, the way the West used to be until

1145
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,840
on the nineteen fifties, maybe right when it's all started

1146
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,760
going downhill. So I was just watching some American expat

1147
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:56,119
on telegram. He made videos in some shopping mall in

1148
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,560
Russia with all the only white people everywhere, and he

1149
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,880
basically he said, it's like traveling back in time to

1150
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,119
America in the nineteen eighties, basically walking through the shopping

1151
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:08,560
mall in Moscow. So I mean, so, the fear that

1152
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,239
somebody will come to power after Putin who has no

1153
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:14,880
knowledge of history is almost non existent in my opinion,

1154
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,680
because I've actually never met a Russian who has no

1155
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,239
concept of his own history or the responsibility that he

1156
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:24,359
or she has to uphold this history and to make

1157
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:28,800
sure that Russia as a country with Russians as it

1158
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,199
distinct people will prevail.

1159
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: Tell everybody promote anything where they can get the books,

1160
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,640
any articles you want to promote anything, well, as a.

1161
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,279
Speaker 2: Terry Trump is in a book you can order on Amazon.

1162
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,640
You can also order it and artros dot com slash

1163
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,319
shop where you can also buy the books by Gillomphi

1164
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,880
like Archaeo Futurism that I mentioned earlier. Because Giomphi is

1165
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,279
not available on Amazon, you can actually only order them

1166
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,039
in the arctos shop. Same with Alexander Dugin's books. They're

1167
01:11:05,079 --> 01:11:08,199
not available on Amazon. You can buy them in the

1168
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:11,920
Arts shop. I mean, I know Dugin did an interview

1169
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,159
with Tucker Carlson where they said that Dugan's books were

1170
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,479
banned in the United States. Is not actually true. They're

1171
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,920
not banned. Amazon just refuses to carry them. So, like

1172
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,640
I said, you can order them arct doss dot com

1173
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,640
slash shop. And we have a lot of other books,

1174
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,439
of course. And then we have a journal, an online

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journal Arctosjournal dot com, where you can read new articles

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on a daily basis, usually two or three about current events,

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culture history, by a variety of different authors, some famous,

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some new. You should check it out. I highly recommend it.

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Also have a personal sub stack called euro Siberia dot

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net where I post two or three articles per week

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about topics of our huge variety, also culture history, et cetera. Yeah,

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and by the way, just real quick, yeah, just finished

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the second book called Multipolarity, which Multipolarity exclamation mark. I've

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already announced it on social media, will probably be released

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in a couple of weeks. So it covers some of

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the some of the points we discussed.

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Speaker 1: Today Constantine, thank you very much, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for having Mesh