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Speaker 2: This Saturday night, the Press Bar will rise from the

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ashes as the Red Carpet presents the second annual Press

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Bar Reunion with a Night of Kiss featuring Act a

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tribute to Ace Frehley with a Kiss Champ to close

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the night. Join us as we toast Gregan DIDs Remember

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tables available. This Saturday night, the Red Carpet becomes Saint

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Claud's Home of rock and roll. Yeah yeah, I will.

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How are we doing, everybody? You're pal is he here?

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Patreon folks, I'm sorry I had to put that ad

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in there. I've been extremely busy and that's why there's

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not been shit weekly listeners. I'm sorry for no show

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last week. Just just been busy as shit, so it's

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no excuse. Plus I didn't have any guests and I

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didn't want another show of just me talking, so um. Yeah,

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but come over to the Patreon Patreon dot com slash

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Speaker 3: Five dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Brad and Lesha were in Vegas this weekend another reason.

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I was busy, and my liver is not happy about it,

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not happy at all. So I am beat, I am drained,

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and uh. Brad and Lisha both said that the five

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dollars a month is totally worth it and bless him,

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bless him, and I appreciate that. Also, before we get moving,

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they have some product left. So hit up Wayne on

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the on the Facebook or here in the just here

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in the fucking app in your Patreon. Just send them

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a message, say hey dude, I want that CD and

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support one another. It's that easy, that simple. So here's

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what's going on. You heard in the ad. We all know.

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The show is this upcoming Saturday night in Saint Cloud.

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I am not flying unfortunately. Yes, they're covering my travel expenses,

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but it's so fucking expensive to fly up there. I'm

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not gonna make them pay fucking five hundred plus dollars

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plus what they're paying me to host it and play.

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It's just not fair. So I'm gonna drive. I will

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be leaving on Wednesday, very very early. I will get

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you a show Monday and Tuesday here the Patriot Dope

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pay yeah, the Patreon and if you're not part of

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the Patreon, it's real asy president on Patreon, it's only

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five dollars a month. So we'll get you guys shows

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tomorrow and Tuesday, and then leaving very early on Wednesday,

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and then I should be Thursday night. I should be

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in St. Cloud and I will be on Rocking one

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on one on Friday at some point between ten and

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two with Morgues. Is it nine and two it's nine

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and two and so I don't know one hour. I'll

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let you guys know. It'll be great, Oh my god,

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to get back in the airchair on Rocking one on one.

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Speaker 3: I always have fun when I go on with Morgs

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for you, Patriopha, I might do live shows from the

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while I'm driving, you know, I might keep me awake,

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so dumb, so cold. I'm not excited. Cold is dumb.

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show's on Saturday. Fucking sorry, I'm sorry, and I'll be

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back Monday night and everything is back flowing again on Tuesday.

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There is a page now on the Facebook for the weddings.

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It's called Izzy Presley Las Vegas Wedding Officiant. You can

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find it. If you know everybody coming to Las Vegas

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and needs to get married, have him hit me up

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through the page or Izzypresley dot com. And I appreciate

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that I would like to be able to do one

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wedding a day. If I could do one wedding a day,

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I'd be fine, I'd be great, I'd be outstanding. I

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wouldn't have to waste a whole fucking day sitting outside

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the goddamn grocery, hating myself, hating my life, looking at

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all the other institards, so dumb being one of the

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other institards. Whatever. So I know what the lack of

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date on the shit? I'm pretty sure this was over

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the pandemic. Come on, I just had the page and

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twenty twenty one. Okay, okay, we're getting there, getting there.

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Dynasty Versus Unmasked September twenty second, twenty twenty myself and

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out loud Cast, Todd Kerns, Chad Stewart for Faster Pussycat,

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and Sir Edward of Trunk. So that's going to be

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the episode for you folks in the patreon. I'm going

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for only five dollars a month, So here we go.

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love beer? So dumb, so without without the further ado.

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at Zappa, Todd Kurrns, Chad Stewart and Sir Edward of

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Trunk Hall of Famer, another refining podcast off three of

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them on this show, of course, Paul Gargano, Chad Stewart,

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and Sir Edward of Trunk. Here you go, enjoy it.

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more beer, more vodka, more whisky, and more beer.

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Speaker 2: Let the fun beIN?

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we're gonna do all that stuff in just a little bit.

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our esteemed panel in, Ladies and gentlemen. He is from

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the Slash Band and Bruce Cullick Band, and he has

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in my life. Ladies and gentlemen, Todd Kerns, Welcome back

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to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you. Paul Gargana Fadle Edge Magazine, Welcome back.

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Chad Stewart Faster Pussycat, Moto Christ and Act contribute to

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have them. Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm welcome

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Speaker 3: I am thrilled to be here.

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to talk about the new Ace record, but I'm At

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to get into the throwdown in the first half, Dynasty

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Speaker 3: Is it weird to admit you're stupid on your own show?

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you loved it, and you you and your friends, I

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seemed like all my friends, we all love.

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Speaker 1: Of that song. That song, you know, took it to

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all of them. But then it's got a ton of

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great a stuff on it, like two thousand Man the

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Stones cover Hard Hard Times. Yeah, that's bad, as like

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all that stuff is really really cool and the Gene

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songs are great charisma.

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Speaker 12: I feel like, sorry, I never got the memo that

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you weren't supposed to exactly.

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Speaker 3: I love these records the same way.

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Speaker 8: And I think it also depends anything where you came in,

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how you came in. I didn't because of an older

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brother or an older sister that loved the.

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Speaker 4: Band I was.

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Speaker 8: I discovered them on my own, and I literally discovered

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them on my own, and I was nine years old

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when Dynasty came out, so it's like you grow up,

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you love this, Like I wasn't old enough to know

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any better than oh this is bad kiss, or this

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isn't the best kiss, this isn't whatever. So for me,

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this is this is the first album that I really

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kind of called my own, like the other one was

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backwards into This was the first album that was my album.

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Speaker 4: And I love this record.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Nasty, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think Dynasty fucking rocks.

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I mean it's it's a lot harder edged than a

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lot of people give it credit for because they they think, oh, yeah,

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that's their disco record. Well, yes, I was made for

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of it was a disco song, and Peter's song also

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got that disco pop feel too. Other than Ace's killer

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fucking guitar solo in.

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Speaker 11: There, Let's be honest, that's probably one of Peter's best songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, living to be honest, the both of those records

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are some of Peter's best drumming.

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Speaker 2: You did there? I see it.

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Speaker 3: You guys, Oh Anton fig you were so Paul Am

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I remembering this correctly?

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Speaker 12: And and and guys, because I I think I this

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might be my entry point to kiss too, because this

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is I feel like more of the action figures for

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Kiss for pumped out around this particular time, because I

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do think I was made for loving you?

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Speaker 3: Was this?

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Speaker 12: Uh, they were able to get a bigger piece of

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the of the audience, you know, and and create more awareness.

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Certainly they were they were on rocket thrusters with all

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their licensing and merchandising at.

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Speaker 3: This point, and you know, they were rock and roll superheroes.

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They still are to me.

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Speaker 12: And I think that this is probably when I was like,

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oh I need, I need, I need everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely needed the lunch box, needed the it was

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had to have it all.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was this, It was Kiss, It was Mark

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and Mindy.

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Speaker 4: Angels.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I came a couple of years later, but

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that yeah, sure, yeah, I have like I have a

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Kiss pinball machine in my living room from nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: So of course at that at.

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Speaker 3: That time, I was exactly a nerd.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: And because you said this, Paul, okay, how about this,

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here we go.

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Speaker 2: Come. Is he gonna roll his pinball machine into the shot.

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Speaker 1: Or his unmasked tattoo?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Wow? Wow? The fall guy?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you remember what his name was

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on that show? What Lee Major's character's.

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Speaker 8: Name was, Colt Stevers Cold Stevers, the Unknown, stunt man,

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the Unknown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother was like, that's a cool name. I'm

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gonna name my son that someday. He's like seven at

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the time. He's telling me his name, his son Colt

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Steevers Cold Steebs cuts.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 10: No, I had a daughter.

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Speaker 2: I think, like you know, you say a lot of

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people that checked out by that time. I think it

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was more of the older the.

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Speaker 3: Older crowd crowd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Solo records didn't do it, I was

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made for love and you did.

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Speaker 1: I guess, like, can we just.

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Speaker 3: Can we just there's a right way to answer this question.

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Speaker 12: And this is a friendship test as to whether or

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not I just fucking exit the show right now. What

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the actual order of the Solo records from best to worst?

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You know, because I I know what the correct answer is.

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But this is my friendship test you all.

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Speaker 13: It's like I think I do too, But I'll give

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you a Peter Christmas record is last.

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Speaker 8: T I'll take the plunge and go first if you

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want me to. I'm gonna go Ace Paul Jean, Peter

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that's my.

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Speaker 4: Order as well.

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Speaker 1: That's my order as well, although I really didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Actually I'm gonna flip. I'm gonna flip Paul.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Wow, Wow that is controversial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great pop songs on that, you know. In my opinion,

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and I'd love to know yours is my opinion, it

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goes Ace, Jane, Paul Peter. Really see, this is the

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for me.

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Speaker 2: Ace is obviously number one, and that's not because I'm

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a fucking Ace wonk and I have an Ace Fraily

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tribute band with Chad. I really love.

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Speaker 4: The mixer next year. Have you.

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Speaker 3: Love Catalina's I have?

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Speaker 2: I have trouble with the Gene and Paul one, and

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I want to flip them sometimes and put Gene second

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and Paul third, with Peter tied for third because I

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think the Peters. I think the Peter Peter Christ solo

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record is one of the most underrated fucking records they

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ever put out. With the kiss logo on it is this.

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Speaker 4: Alan like.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking for a gong. There's gotta be a.

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Speaker 2: Run, right, dude. I have dead serious If you listen

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to that record without the fact that you think you're

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going to hear a Kiss record. It is a great

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seventies pop record.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the songs kind of suck too, No they don't,

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Yes they do, But when you were but.

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Speaker 1: When you were nine years old? Did those songs suck?

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Speaker 4: I listened to those records all day long.

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Speaker 11: Hey, I Radioactive is one of my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Jeans Jean's record.

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Speaker 12: Look he to me on his solo record, he was

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far uh more exploratory and doing more interesting things than

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everyone else.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, how can you not love living incident at the

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Holiday Inn?

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, Yeah, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't argue, Like Paul and Jean are really close

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for me, I mean as a distant first and Peter

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is a distant last.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't argue with anybody putting Gene before Paul. I

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just I have so much history with Gene. I will

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always put Paul ahead of Jean. So if Paul Stanley

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put out a song that said Paul Gargana sucks, I

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don't like it more than a lot of stuff Jane does,

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just because that Wow.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say that that song Paul sucks is actually

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a really good song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like to have a crush on Pandemic

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Paul Stanley or something.

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Speaker 1: Desmond Child co wrote that one, right, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole nother song.

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Speaker 8: There, Paul Wax there, wow him than Vinnie Poncia?

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Speaker 1: Oh sure? Who produced? Who produced a Peter Chriss record

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and then went on to like have Peter not play

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on the record he was producing for Kiss.

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Speaker 8: Right, That's what happens when you produce a record, you

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realize you don't want him playing on the next one

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you work on.

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Speaker 12: What when Peter, when Peter had his ship together everyone,

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you know, Peter and Nace. You know, I've seen Ace

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play solo and he really is the heart and soul

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and the feel of that band, you know. And I

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and I hate that they that the bands break up.

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I hate I hate all the fucking Michigan with them.

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They're just such an amazing band. And uh, you know

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the debate between Dynasty and Unmasked. You know, it's actually

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really hard for me because I really genuinely like both records.

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Speaker 8: To one of the things for me that I think

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has always fascinated me about the band. They always had

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a reputation for being heavier than I think they ever

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really were. In the non makeup era, they had a

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reputation like they were supposed to be this hard rock

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back then heavy metal band, but they were never really

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that heavy. They had their heavy moments. I think what

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especially going back to Unmasked quite more than two times

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over the past couple of days, going back to that,

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it's really not a bad record. It just I feel

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like it's a poorly executed record because it kind of

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stands on this island in the Kiss catalog where it

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really sounded like they were trying to fit in with

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that whole like soft rock.

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Speaker 4: Mellow gold yacht rock.

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Speaker 8: Now we call it yacht rock, but half that album

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was a yacht rock record and it just didn't really fit.

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Speaker 3: Fuck you, no, it wasn't. No, no, no, you don't agree.

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Speaker 12: No, that's like you're saying right now, You're like, no,

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there really are great records, but.

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Speaker 3: Then you're shitting on yacht rock, which, by the way, no.

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Speaker 10: I love yacht rock.

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Speaker 4: I'm not shitting on yacht rock.

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Speaker 13: Was a poorly If Gordon Lightfoot was sitting on my

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lap right now, was there, It's a fucking sundown me

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right in my ear canal brow.

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Speaker 2: I need it.

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Speaker 8: My point is it's not a well executed yacht rock record,

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like it's you feel there's That's what my problem is.

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Like I love yacht rock, it's not well executed. It

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was like somebody else wrote it. The band wasn't feeling it,

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and it was just kind of like, is it a

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bad record?

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Speaker 3: No, I think Gene was feeling she's so European. I

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gotta be honest. I think he was definitely feeling in

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that track.

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Speaker 4: Pablo Cruz were feeling more than Kiss was back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's I mean, it's still it's still harder

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than rock yacht.

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Speaker 10: Rock though, like RB.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Here's a here's a great comment from Here's a great

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comment from the chat room. Scottie Strickland up in Canada.

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Heather Thomas pink bikini and I'm done.

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Speaker 3: From from ball good good call.

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Speaker 4: You have a lunchbox. I wish I still had my lunchbox.

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Speaker 2: Which covered you guys like.

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Speaker 8: Better Dynasty is like I love Dynasty. It's a classic.

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Paul's wearing the shirt. That's how I am wearing the shirt.

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Speaker 2: Paul's like, you guys recognize this, and he's I've got

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a tattoo exactly.

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Speaker 8: I mean I have the Jean the Jean tattoo across

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my left but cheek other than that.

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Speaker 12: Right right right, I mean the kidd in me like

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the Unmasked. Sure, yeah, yeah, appreciated for someone else.

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Speaker 4: The fold out.

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Speaker 3: The fold out was fucking killer. Oh yeah, yeah, they

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both have.

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Speaker 1: They both had awesome posters. You know, they both came

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with huge posters.

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Speaker 4: I kind of felt swindled by the Unmasked.

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Speaker 8: It's like, you're waiting for this Unmasked and then it's

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just haha, we're not really right.

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Speaker 2: But if they can redo that cover now and instead

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of with the cartoon guy in the corner saying I

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still think they suck, have that Leo meme in there

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instead of that cartoon guy, it would be fucking gold.

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Speaker 8: Instead if Peter Chris winking, you would be flipping the

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00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:56,960
three of them off.

471
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 10: With right right.

472
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: Right, I mean a mass I mean that's the one

473
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,680
record they did not tour in the United States.

474
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 10: Huge in Australia.

475
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Australia. Yeah, it was older than to put that on

476
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,279
the front cover, that that guy saying, I still say

477
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,440
they stink. I remember being a kid and going like

478
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,160
what the hell is this?

479
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 6: You know?

480
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that guy?

481
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,279
Speaker 4: Who is this guy?

482
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 11: So hey, Paul, maybe you know this or maybe I

483
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,480
meant you know this? Was Shandy a bigger song in Australia.

484
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Or was I was Made for Love of You a bigger

485
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:29,759
song in Australia.

486
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,839
Speaker 4: I thought Shandy was huge.

487
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying. Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

488
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: Certain that's certainly. The legend is that.

489
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't know that I need to.

490
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 12: I don't know that I need to care about that.

491
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:47,559
Speaker 3: Even though information, I'm just gonna forget it.

492
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 1: It's not it's not going to add to your life.

493
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: Because I was made for loving you.

494
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,759
Speaker 2: Were people like ship on that song that song comes on,

495
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,839
I fucking crank it up. I love it, Yeah, I

496
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,279
love it's it's he's doing a disco song.

497
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: To me, there's something fucking rad about.

498
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: That solo in that so brief, but it really takes

499
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,000
it somewhere. He's really good.

500
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,319
Speaker 2: But I do really like the the like the live

501
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,359
three version better when it's even fucking when it's really

502
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,240
fucking heavy, you know.

503
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,559
Speaker 1: But all things are a whole lot of higher. It's

504
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,640
it's way heavier.

505
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just looked by the way Shandy was top ten.

506
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:28,119
It went to number ten in Australia. I Was Made

507
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,799
for Love and he was number two. Okay, oh wow

508
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:31,680
in Australia.

509
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:34,319
Speaker 1: But the guy, now you can forget that information on

510
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:35,480
That's exactly.

511
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 10: Man.

512
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 12: I would have bet that that I Was Made for

513
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Love You it was a was a bigger hit. But Australia,

514
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,000
you know, there's some bad that.

515
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,079
Speaker 4: But they go backwards in Australia. Don't take that's true.

516
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,039
Speaker 2: That's true. Point Well, let me ask you this. Do

517
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:53,279
you think that they did so well in Australia on

518
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,119
that tour had they gone there before that?

519
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that they went there. They went there

520
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:01,880
for Dinos for sure, they went for Thomas.

521
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got I've got the bootleg of the Sydney

522
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,599
Show somewhere there you go.

523
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: Who somebody google that?

524
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 2: Who?

525
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: Somebody?

526
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,759
Speaker 2: I'm on it right now.

527
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 12: Exactly Who all of your friends is? People that you

528
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,240
know is the biggest Kiss fan. Because I know that

529
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,599
there's one particular musician Pals. I'm not great friends with him.

530
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,480
I've had some really fun times with him, but he

531
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,240
he surprised me. And I bet you we might all

532
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:32,279
know who I'm talking about, who I believe to be

533
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:33,240
the biggest Kiss fan.

534
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm from asign from Trunk, aside from Trunk.

535
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:41,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a particular singer that that I'm thinking of.

536
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 12: I'm gonna said, if we're going to talk about Kiss.

537
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 10: That's an amazing person.

538
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:51,759
Speaker 4: I know.

539
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:58,279
Speaker 1: I said that before Kill Keane.

540
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: Easy for real. I'm going to have you on my show, dude.

541
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: If you want me to, I'd fucking love it. It'd

542
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,000
be just.

543
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: You can have Craig Simmons can debate battle.

544
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:23,519
Speaker 2: That would be hilarious or whatever. I was actually hoping

545
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,359
that Jericho would have me on when even though I

546
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,519
don't think he knows I does that. I do that impression.

547
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,079
But with him and Bass were having that fucking spat

548
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,319
on Twitter, that could have been funny.

549
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 14: Dude.

550
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,119
Speaker 7: You want to have a fucking singing throwdown, dude, I

551
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,079
remember you, fucking Fozzy come on.

552
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:44,799
Speaker 3: Pretty good.

553
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,359
Speaker 2: You just need to start just doing voiceovers on videos

554
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,799
as fakes the bashing.

555
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: Back to kill you.

556
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah right, be about four days away if you start now.

557
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know right?

558
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,359
Speaker 2: Uh. I am not seeing okay, I see Canada, I

559
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:12,799
see us for Dynasty. I am not seeing any outside

560
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,559
of North America for Dynasty.

561
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's weird.

562
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 11: Uh, I thought did they take the same.

563
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:24,759
Speaker 3: Well they use?

564
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used the Dynasty set in US for the

565
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:32,359
Unmaster in Australia because Eric Carr was playing on that. Remember, second,

566
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,000
did they change the name of a country just for

567
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,519
one moment in time so that Chad actually has the information?

568
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,519
Speaker 3: Is that possible?

569
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

570
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:46,839
Speaker 3: The names of them where they played.

571
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:54,079
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the bootleg is for a guy named Siddy.

572
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,319
Speaker 3: Maybe from Unmasked. Actually, yeah, that.

573
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Almo hast been going around forever, ended up on the

574
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640
ended up on the one of the Cassology things that.

575
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But it's funny me watching Eric play

576
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,519
the Peter songs then he just I'm sorry. Eric's an

577
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:11,839
amazing drummer, but Eric just didn't have that feel.

578
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: It was different.

579
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,599
Speaker 3: He's a metal drummer.

580
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it.

581
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: You know, it was hard.

582
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 12: It was hard to adjust to any kind of change

583
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160
in that band too, you know, you know, and and

584
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,440
I really had some to do some soul searching the

585
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,400
players that changed the makeup, and I'm like, this is

586
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,640
this is kind of fucked. Yeah, you know, all through

587
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:37,400
all through that.

588
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Here's a question I got from DJ Will. He just

589
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,039
texted me. He goes, did the pop aspect of Unmasked

590
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:48,359
versus the concept of the elder hurt Kiss both coming

591
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,359
off the heels of the success of the Dynasty release.

592
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:56,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they probably the Dynasty thing, as

593
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:57,920
big as it was, it sort of set them up

594
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,640
to kind of It's one of those things where you're

595
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400
gonna lose your hardcore rock audience that was there, and

596
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,640
I think they lost them. And I think the young

597
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,359
kids probably, you know, like when you're a boy band

598
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680
or something like that. I think, Oh my god, look.

599
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:20,799
Speaker 4: Who's the big guns are here? Look out, look at

600
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:25,920
this group these mugs.

601
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 10: He sounded.

602
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: He sounded all excited about the big podcast tonight that

603
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
on the other air today that he just couldnot resist

604
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:34,720
popping in.

605
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,119
Speaker 4: You set that plug up?

606
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: I did not that. I absolutely did not. I mean

607
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,480
I wouldn't put that past me, but I did not.

608
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,279
Speaker 13: Are you Are you any Are you any drunk? Joining

609
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,240
is he show right now? Are you any drunk? Drunk

610
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:52,000
on your show?

611
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: That show was fantastic, by the way, the master of

612
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:05,359
that I'm getting drunk and and just everything here getting

613
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,799
people to do stupid shit.

614
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: Right right, and right now we're in the middle of

615
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:14,760
talking about just kind of roughly talking about Dynasty and Unmasked.

616
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,039
What are your thoughts on the two records before we

617
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:22,480
get into the song by song gimmick something.

618
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,519
Speaker 4: When I knew you were doing this, something jumped into

619
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:28,559
my head pretty quickly because it just shows how us

620
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,519
as fans know about and care about this stuff so

621
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,119
much more than the people actually made their records. Because

622
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:41,480
because Ace was on my show yesterday and I brought

623
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,679
up two thousand and man to him on the air

624
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,800
and he goes, ah, I remember doing that? Who produced

625
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,719
that record? Again?

626
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: Like that?

627
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 4: Like that's like not even a question amongst a group,

628
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,320
like who made the record? Don't even know who the

629
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,639
producer was. So that's how we piculous me.

630
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: Hold, your impersonation of Ace is still good?

631
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Can you just do me? This?

632
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: Is this look like my dream come true?

633
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: Is it?

634
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,039
Speaker 3: Can you do Sebastian and Eddie?

635
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,559
Speaker 2: And can you both get into an argument about some

636
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,800
random kiss topic?

637
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 7: Dude, Dude, that solo you did on fucking Rock and

638
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,159
Roll All Night was amazing. It was fucking great, dude,

639
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,199
But it was just on the live record I don't

640
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,119
know why you didn't do it on the studio record.

641
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,199
Speaker 4: Who the fuck is this guy? Is he fucking all

642
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,079
the spread? Who the fuck is this guy with this?

643
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,559
I don't even know what jammed up, Curly dude.

644
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: What why?

645
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,199
Speaker 1: Why?

646
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 7: I just don't understand why there was no solo on.

647
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: Rock and Roll All Night on on on the on

648
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,599
the studio record.

649
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: He argued with me about it. I know, literally argued

650
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,039
with me that there was a solo on the studio

651
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,039
version of Rock and All Night. And I'm saying, no,

652
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,199
there's nice. I know I did one. I go. It's

653
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,840
on on the record.

654
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 8: It's not addressed to anyway to answer you, you didn't

655
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,360
make the record, kind of like Peter on Psycho Circus.

656
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,199
Speaker 1: We're not saying you didn't play the drums.

657
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 4: We're just saying my thoughts on those two records. Thought

658
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,239
answer your question is I like them both. I think

659
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,840
that Dynasty gets unfairly pigeonholed as a disco record when

660
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480
I don't really think outside of a song or two

661
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,679
it is. I think there's some actual, like some pretty

662
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:48,079
meaty kiss stuff on there that gets overlooked. It's savior

663
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:50,199
Love has got one of my favorite ever A solos

664
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,239
in it, So I like, you know, magic Touch one

665
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
of my all time favorite Kiss songs on it. So

666
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000
I like the record and as far as I Unmasked

667
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,800
is concerned to me, un mask is a really good

668
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,199
power pop album. If you like power pop, and I do.

669
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,800
I think it's a really good power pop album. Is

670
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,880
it a great prototypical kiss record? No, but for what

671
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,599
it is, it's a very polished, slick sounding, poppy pop record, and.

672
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:17,039
Speaker 2: I like it.

673
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,199
Speaker 12: This is what drives me crazy, is like Kiss made

674
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,119
the records, so it's a Kiss record. If they want

675
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,239
to explore different sounds, I just I take it for

676
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,559
face value, Like is this if?

677
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: If do? I do?

678
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: I like these two records. I like them a whole

679
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,519
fucking lot.

680
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: There are some other records that the Kiss made them,

681
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,119
Like yeah, no, that's that's an adult diaper filled with

682
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:43,800
adult poo, right, But honestly, like it is, look is

683
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,280
Cardivals Cardinals a Kiss record.

684
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: That's pretty terrible? Which one shot Carnival Souls?

685
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,559
Speaker 2: See?

686
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: You don't even know the fucking album?

687
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: I like stuff on that record?

688
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: You really?

689
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really do?

690
00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's not a Kiss record.

691
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: The core the title track I love. Well, there's a

692
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,400
ton of records that they didn't actually play on. Say it, Dad,

693
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,280
the records you're debating the drummer wasn't on.

694
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was questionable.

695
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 12: I think about when I think about Gene and the process,

696
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
and I think it probably varies from from record to record.

697
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: And for some reason, I just go to I go

698
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,320
to him.

699
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,199
Speaker 12: He's like, my he's my favorite Kiss member, right, and

700
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:30,840
and I'm like, I like all of them, and I

701
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,760
like the original line up the most, and I wish

702
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,840
they never broke up.

703
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:39,159
Speaker 3: And you know, and I love the band, but you know.

704
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:42,039
Speaker 12: Looking at their success and how they would approach things

705
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,039
when you know they're a huge group.

706
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:47,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

707
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,199
Speaker 3: I kind of view it weirdly, and I don't know why.

708
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 12: I kind of I view everything through the eyes of

709
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,320
what I imagine Gene is thinking.

710
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I don't know how that happened.

711
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,599
Speaker 2: It's all like, if you like, it's a conversation of

712
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,119
we're going to go after this market share. So a

713
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,360
part of me like the business mindset of being in

714
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,119
a group where your your rock and roll superheroes and like, Okay,

715
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,239
what are we going to do? Next.

716
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:14,599
Speaker 12: So they I think that they had all of these

717
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:18,400
other things that they were contemplating before just making music,

718
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,880
because they were a very different kind of band, because

719
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,360
they were more like a machine.

720
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: They were they were a business. They understood all those things.

721
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 12: So they were all of these considerations that I kind

722
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,280
of find fascinating from record to record to record, and

723
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,039
then I think certain records are all about the music,

724
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,440
and then others are all about honestly like a social experiment.

725
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,320
You know, in some ways that's just all in my

726
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:42,719
own head.

727
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 8: That's that I actually that was something I was going

728
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,800
to bring up too, because I agree with you completely.

729
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,199
But I also think one thing that has to come

730
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,000
into play when we're talking about this whole Arrow's Kiss

731
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,079
is the fact that this is where the wheels were

732
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:55,639
falling off.

733
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,679
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a disaster. It was exactly.

734
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,639
Speaker 8: This was like the wheels were off and these bands,

735
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,800
I mean, Unmasked, they weren't even writing.

736
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,639
Speaker 4: So it was like, and we're all.

737
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 8: In the business enough to know that when one guy

738
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,639
in the band appears on a song, that means he

739
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,199
might have walked through the room to get to the

740
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,239
bathroom while it was being written, and like they didn't

741
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,679
even forget to play on the record Unmasked. They didn't

742
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,039
even write the damn records. So it's like that they

743
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,440
were such a train wreck here. I think that's also

744
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:23,920
why we.

745
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 10: Have what we have.

746
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,639
Speaker 8: They could barely keep it together to be a band,

747
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,559
let alone put out a record. And I think that

748
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,559
comes into play for this the Elder, all this whole era,

749
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,159
the solo records.

750
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,079
Speaker 4: I mean they could, We're all the solo records in

751
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:40,400
that direction, started.

752
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 8: It in Solo records, Dynasty, Unmasked, Elder, and then finally like, okay,

753
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
maybe we should try to get our suit together and

754
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:49,360
take our makeup off.

755
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 12: I mean, does somebody have the actual answer as to

756
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,599
the the impetus for the solo records. I'm sure it

757
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,159
was something probably pretty basic of like, well I'm the

758
00:40:58,159 --> 00:40:59,920
most popular member and kiss I'll show you.

759
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,559
Speaker 2: Well I think it was. I think it was As

760
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:04,599
and Peter, who are just gonna say fucking and leave.

761
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,559
Speaker 4: They were all hating each other.

762
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they just hated each other and it was abandoned.

763
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,519
Speaker 3: That wasn't one.

764
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 11: Wasn't that a bill of coin decision for them to

765
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,559
instead of breaking up to make that to go off

766
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,039
and makes all the records and try to blow some

767
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:17,800
steam off.

768
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Put the same covers on it, you unify them and

769
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,360
make four times the money.

770
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: Remember, and it was coming off the movie, which was

771
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,320
a disaster.

772
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,599
Speaker 1: Another disaster, a disaster unless you were like my at

773
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,559
my age, it was the best thing in the world.

774
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, By by the way, for Halloween, we are

775
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:36,920
going to do a watch along with that movie on

776
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,320
the show.

777
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,519
Speaker 10: Oh hell yeah.

778
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 12: The fight scene in slow motion, can we all agree,

779
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,079
is maybe one of the greatest.

780
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: Here's the thing that I'll say, and I've said this

781
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,559
a lot too. For all the credit that Kiss get

782
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:54,440
for being innovators, if you really look at their entire history,

783
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,159
there were many times when they were just as they were,

784
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,719
totally guilty of being followers and following the trends and

785
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,039
trying to jump on what was happening at that time.

786
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,280
And when you to me, when you look at Dynasty

787
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,840
and Unmasked, Unmasked is a director reaction to Dynasty because

788
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,599
I lived through that era. I mean I was very young,

789
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:14,880
but I lived it and I can tell you that

790
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,039
I know exactly what happened. So they have the big

791
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,599
hit with Dynasty with I was made for Loving You,

792
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:25,039
but it created this false illusion that they were suddenly

793
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,280
going to get all this radio playing these and the

794
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,400
fans were still there. They weren't a huge amount of

795
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,920
the fans abandoned them for Dynasty, but it was brought,

796
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,159
but it was made up to some degree by young kids,

797
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:42,800
little kids, young people. That was the transition to kiddie bands.

798
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,199
That's when they became the kittie band, right. And then

799
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,119
they had that little taste of success with a big hit,

800
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,280
which was a disco song with a totally different audience.

801
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,119
Unmask comes around, they chased the pop radio thing even

802
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,719
more that they don't have a hit America, and that audience,

803
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,360
who was only there for the one song leaves and

804
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,280
then the gaping hole presented itself of holy shit, we

805
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,920
lost the pop fans and our entire fan base is

806
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,079
alienated and that's why you didn't get you got one

807
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,239
concert tell the Masked tour in America, which I was

808
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,159
at the final nail on the coffin and put out

809
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:25,519
the elder Yeah right, I graduated. I graduated high school

810
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,119
in eighty two. I say this all the time. I

811
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,440
would have physically gotten my ass beat if I was

812
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,280
in sixty two, because eighty two. Think about the years

813
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,199
I proudly proclaimed a Kiss fan in high school. The

814
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,920
elder unmasked Dynasty. I mean, it was ridiculous, the abuse

815
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,159
I took ed.

816
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,039
Speaker 3: Where was the one show on mass show that they

817
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:48,440
did in the.

818
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 4: US July twenty fifth, nineteen eighty It was Eric Carr's

819
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:58,639
first ever show. It was at the Palladium And you know,

820
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,920
a year earlier I saw that do Two Knights in

821
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,199
Madison Square Garden and the Dynasty tour. A year later,

822
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,480
they're playing a three thousand cap theater and that was

823
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:12,199
the only American show they used the same same stage,

824
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,320
in the same costumes as Dynasty. Yeah, it was there, really, Yeah,

825
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,400
they had to scale the stage way back because it's

826
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,199
a much smaller place. They played that show and then

827
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,079
they went, Oh, the really bizarre thing with that whole

828
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,480
era is couldn't get arrested in America. One show in

829
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:33,840
a theater to introduce Eric, and then they went to

830
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,039
Europe and other parts of the world in Australia and

831
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:41,360
it was stadiums, Like there were hints on unmasks in

832
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,360
other parts of the world. But so really weird time.

833
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: We kind of talked about that before. I'd love to

834
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,559
hear your thoughts on this. Do you think that they

835
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,920
were those shows were so huge in Australia's because they

836
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,079
hadn't toured there before.

837
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly don't know, but I'll say

838
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,559
this the other interesting thing. And I talked to East

839
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,880
about this a lot. He was so unhappy at that time,

840
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,159
but he never had more involvement in Kiss. In terms

841
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,960
of songs, he has more songs. He has more songs

842
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,159
on Dynasty, I think than jes.

843
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Fantastic Dumb.

844
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Unmasked too, He's got tons of songs.

845
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

846
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: Torpedo girl. Here, let's do this. I I might as

847
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,199
a heart out in twenty minutes. So let's do the

848
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:29,719
sideway before you before you jump?

849
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: Hey, and do you remember the setlest from the unmassout

850
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:32,960
in New York?

851
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: I mean, did they do anything off?

852
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:38,639
Speaker 3: Did they do anything off Unmasked?

853
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,199
Speaker 4: I mean, look it up, Yes they did. They did.

854
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:49,320
They did talk to me, I think they did, and

855
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,239
they did you know what they did, which I think,

856
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,800
which I think is probably the best Gene song of

857
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,639
the two albums. But surprisingly they did your all that

858
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:05,320
I want really really, huh, that's weird. Yeah, I love

859
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:05,840
that song.

860
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,519
Speaker 2: Actually, we have this question from Jefferyl Lee Roth in

861
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,880
the chat room. He goes, is he please ask what

862
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,039
wasn't aired from the Amet Zappa episode with Eddie Trunk.

863
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,960
If everybody doesn't know, Ahmed has a great show called

864
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:22,239
Rocktails on Serious XM, you all need to check out.

865
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,239
So what wasn't aired from the Ahmet episode with Eddie

866
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,639
Trunk and Wyatt took so long to get released? I

867
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,800
want it uncensored.

868
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me tell you.

869
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 12: So, Eddie did a huge solid so you know we

870
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
were when we were just talking with serious.

871
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: You know, Eddie, I was Eddie. Look, we're we gotta

872
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:43,440
try to figure this out, would you?

873
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: Would you mind? You know he's an.

874
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: Ally, He's a guinea pig for for this night. So uh,

875
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,880
we we all.

876
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,079
Speaker 12: I think we talked about so much stuff, but we

877
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:59,880
drank so much and ate so much fucking food afterwards.

878
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm not avoiding the question. I can honestly tell you

879
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:04,639
I have no.

880
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,679
Speaker 3: Fucking I.

881
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:08,199
Speaker 10: Mean, do you?

882
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 12: I mean we I just remember laughing so hard at

883
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,760
your impersonations. That's why I'm stoked that you did your

884
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,840
ace impersonation tonight with your critic.

885
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your critic on that was fucking unbelievable.

886
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: I don't remember any of it, so I honestly I could.

887
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,760
I could tell you were drunk because you were so

888
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,519
hopped up and fucking excited.

889
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was that is.

890
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't drunk at the start. But you got to

891
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,719
remember whatever you heard in that thing. What whatever forty

892
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,000
eight minutes you heard over the air. We did that

893
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:43,480
for like three hours.

894
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,639
Speaker 2: So basically he asked you four questions and it took

895
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,719
you three hours to answer all those questions. No, no, no,

896
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,280
I'll just buzz your balls.

897
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Pretty casual fun hang yeah, yeah, yeah.

898
00:47:56,519 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 12: We were fucking around, but I gotta say we we

899
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,239
we broke out the good stuff.

900
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,199
Speaker 3: We had a normal conversation.

901
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 12: I mean when rocktails is all about drinking and kind

902
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
of like this, you know, yeah, yeah, did around half

903
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,760
a conversation, have some cocktails. That's fun and and there is. Personally,

904
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,800
there's no one more fun than hanging out with Eddie.

905
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,480
He's he's got an encyclopedic mind for all things rock

906
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:18,840
and roll.

907
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,159
Speaker 2: But you know, Eddie, you rarely cut loose and you

908
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,119
fucking never do impersonation.

909
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: So all I tried to do was my whole ball was.

910
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,679
Speaker 2: To get you to be not you.

911
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,199
Speaker 4: And I think what you were pouring in that glass

912
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:43,800
that night then.

913
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: Hip, all you woke up, it was just a tip,

914
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,840
but your butt was bleeding.

915
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: I just like, I just like busting Eddie's balls because

916
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,639
the first time I interviewed him, I used to work

917
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,519
for the write for this magazine, and I think I

918
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,519
asked him nine questions and uh, it was about an

919
00:48:56,519 --> 00:49:00,320
hour and a half long, and I had to get

920
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,360
that down to two pages worth of print. I had

921
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,119
material for a year.

922
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,079
Speaker 8: When I did the two Coins podcasts a couple of

923
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:10,559
months ago.

924
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: Like in the middle of COVID, Jericho was giving me ship.

925
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:16,119
Speaker 8: Because He's like, they asked you literally one question and

926
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:18,880
you talked for forty five minutes. I'm like, what, don't

927
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,039
ask me what happened with Metal Edge because I've never

928
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,280
told the story before. So I decided to tell them

929
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,039
the story of what happened with Metal Edge?

930
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 11: Oh, what happened with Metal Edge?

931
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. Let's let's go side by

932
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,719
side track to track Dynasty Track one I was made

933
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,719
for Loving You versus is that mast track one is

934
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,400
that You?

935
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: Is that You? Was a great song? Who wrote that song?

936
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Nobody in kiss wrote that song, McMahon.

937
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: That's why that trumps here. So I don't have to

938
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,280
know that.

939
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: There's a cool on the demo for that song or

940
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,360
the original version of that song on YouTube and it's

941
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,599
a great song, like just the original version.

942
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:11,599
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I think he wrote didn't he write that?

943
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:15,960
Guy also wrote the song that was big on the soundtrack.

944
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:17,119
I forget what it was.

945
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it was the Lost

946
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,719
Boys soundtrack?

947
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,599
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, which one was it?

948
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,199
Speaker 2: Like the the the Barbarian saxophone players.

949
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,039
Speaker 4: It was a really good song. It was a very

950
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:36,079
dark song. It was like a semi It.

951
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 11: Was that guy was gonna play for Tina Turner, by

952
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,920
the way, Guy, it was a little really.

953
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, did a great cover that by the way, So uh.

954
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:56,159
Speaker 4: Manson, just cover that? Yes, yeah, you because we don't

955
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:56,519
know what day.

956
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 8: I still don't know what day it is, but yeah, Manson.

957
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: You ever done Lost Boys song?

958
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

959
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,039
Speaker 4: What's the man? Cover is that You?

960
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,119
Speaker 10: I love to hear?

961
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,159
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, let's go around the table a

962
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,400
ed is that you? Or I was made for loving you.

963
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,400
I was made for loving you the better song. I

964
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,039
love that song, Chad, I.

965
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:17,199
Speaker 3: Don't think you can argue that. Yeah, I mean it's

966
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,199
it's that that's a testified hit.

967
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:23,679
Speaker 10: Yeah, Todd, I I love I was made for loving you.

968
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: But because I've heard of the gazillion times in my life,

969
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,159
I will say I will always go for is that You.

970
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,000
I just think it's great.

971
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: I think they did a great job of that song.

972
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good song, Paul, you're completely well.

973
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,519
Speaker 4: Not even I was made for loving you.

974
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, best song on both album well, second best song

975
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,480
on both albums, Edward, here.

976
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,079
Speaker 4: We go in the song I like the most or

977
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:48,719
the best song, the song you like the most, like

978
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,480
the most?

979
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: The two I love that you have both answers. Yeah, exactly,

980
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,239
completely fucking arbitrary. So let's hear.

981
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,679
Speaker 4: Maybe just because of the burnout factor, and maybe because

982
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,079
what it signaled, that's what I'm talking about the time

983
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,840
I'm putting is that you. I'm putting I was loving

984
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,559
you on the back burner and saying my personal yead

985
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,119
ask me you're trying to rather listen to you right

986
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:12,880
now would be is that you.

987
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

988
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: Two thousand man versus Shandy two.

989
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:21,079
Speaker 1: Thousand Man, Well you're wrong.

990
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,599
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, here's the thing I'll go.

991
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 8: I'll actually I like two thousand man more, but since

992
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,480
it's a cover, I might actually give that to Shandy because.

993
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 1: It's look Out, look Out.

994
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm I'm agree with me.

995
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 8: I'll play the I'll disqualify the cover song. I prefer

996
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,199
two thousand and man, but it's a.

997
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 4: Cover, so well, what that is that you?

998
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:51,599
Speaker 10: What is that you?

999
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: I guess was technically a cover too, I didn't know

1000
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,559
were but nobody knows.

1001
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but was it released actually before they did it?

1002
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I think it was. I've heard

1003
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,719
the original version right there.

1004
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,159
Speaker 3: Where are you going with this?

1005
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with with with Shandy and and mostly

1006
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:13,559
because I'm just not everyone can beat up on me now.

1007
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,199
I'm just not the biggest Rolling Stones fan. And I

1008
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,360
didn't even know that, you know, going into when I.

1009
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: First heard that song when I was a kid, I

1010
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,199
had no fucking clue.

1011
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,119
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, no, no nobody did.

1012
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 12: But fin reading that out also made me like, yeah,

1013
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,199
that's I was like, I genuinely had the thought, well,

1014
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,119
that's probably why I don't like that song. I'm just

1015
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,760
not a kind of Stones fan, and everyone makes fun

1016
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,119
of me for that, but it's just that's not my band, and.

1017
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,599
Speaker 4: I'm fair enough. Shandy, isn't. I think Shandy should have

1018
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:46,039
been a massive hit. I think it's a great pop song.

1019
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:47,800
I think there's a great vocal on it. I think

1020
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,400
the production is great. I used to play that song

1021
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,559
when I worked in a record store for people, and

1022
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,719
it would come on and people would always come to

1023
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,639
the counter and ask who is that, and like every

1024
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,960
housewife would want to buy it. So that song should

1025
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,840
have been a huge hit for Kiss in the US.

1026
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,679
For whatever reason, it wasn't. But it's a great pop song,

1027
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,840
and I go Shandy.

1028
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,119
Speaker 2: It's tough for me because being the Ace Wonk that

1029
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,960
I am and two thousand and Man is the one

1030
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,239
solo that I get to take and uh in the

1031
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,280
act contribute to Ace Failey show. But I like the

1032
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:28,000
I like the unplugged version better, and I think Shandy

1033
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:31,000
is actually one of the best fucking songs that Paul

1034
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:33,920
Ever was part of, and one of the best songs

1035
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Kiss Ever fucking wrote. So I have to go Shandy.

1036
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just discount covers like Paul said,

1037
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:44,559
I can't. I can't always I'm never gonna. Really the

1038
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:47,960
original has to really suck of something to.

1039
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 8: Be done, especially back then we've been getting this is

1040
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,840
you and I meant that the thing we do every

1041
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,119
Friday night, we have a zoom call Eddie, you've done

1042
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,960
it too. Like we always get in this debate over covers,

1043
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,599
and I think the thing in the seventies, a lot

1044
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:06,280
of the covers it was more songwriting cools than it

1045
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,920
was necessarily covers, because I think a lot of the

1046
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,119
songs were in circulation with several people and they ended

1047
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:13,280
up in several albums.

1048
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:16,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily I'm going to cover this person right right.

1049
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: It was different versions, different versions, all right, here we go,

1050
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:24,639
Sure knows something versus talk to me.

1051
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,159
Speaker 3: This is tough. I think, Yeah, this is a tough one.

1052
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you going with first?

1053
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:30,519
Speaker 4: Me?

1054
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1055
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: You sure know something? I think that's one of my

1056
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,639
favorite Paul songs.

1057
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: Sure know something?

1058
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 10: Sure like that.

1059
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 1: Big, big old that's my you know how Paul's voice

1060
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,280
sort of changed into the metal Paul. He still had

1061
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:43,920
that big.

1062
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Song that was that was Michael McDonald Paul.

1063
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that song. I love

1064
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:51,679
it a lot of he ended up doing it. Did

1065
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:53,599
he do that on the solo tour years later?

1066
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: Yes? He did.

1067
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great. Yeah, No, I'm gonna go with that.

1068
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,320
I love talk to Me. I think it's one of

1069
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,760
the like you know on Unmasked, it's kind of one

1070
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,760
of the classic Kiss sounding kind of Ace songs.

1071
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,159
Speaker 4: But right, I had a pretty big hit in Australia.

1072
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:11,519
Speaker 2: Talking, Yeah, it was. It was Gargano.

1073
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:16,159
Speaker 4: I'm going to Know Something, Chadwick because of the bassline.

1074
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:20,039
Speaker 1: I'm going sure to know something, dude.

1075
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 4: I mean I've I've been even though he says, my boy,

1076
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,679
I've been transparent about this my whole life. Paul has

1077
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:28,880
always been my favorite member of Kiss and his songs

1078
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,719
are always my favorite. And uh, sure Know Something by

1079
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,519
a Mile, I just you know, I love the poppiness

1080
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:40,800
of Sure to Know Something juxtapost against the crashing power

1081
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,559
chords in the chorus. That to me just is what

1082
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,840
I freaking love in music and in Kiss, when Paul's

1083
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,119
voice soars over those power chords and the guitar solo

1084
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:56,199
played by Paul Stanley. Yeah, that so absolutely a great solo.

1085
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,599
It's a great song.

1086
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 8: Like Eddie mentioned, this before the Power Pack aspect, Power

1087
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Pop aspect. I feel like, sure know something is is

1088
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,480
like really it's Paul at his best in a lot

1089
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:11,239
of ways, and at its best. I look at talk

1090
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,880
to me is kind of like I'd rather listen to

1091
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,199
the Knack. I mean, it's just that's you know, it's like,

1092
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,559
that's not an insult. I like the Knack, but it's

1093
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,679
just that's I just feel like that's kind of just

1094
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:26,079
how a lot of unmask left me. I'd rather listen

1095
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,239
to something else. It's not bad, it's just not great

1096
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,199
weird ship talk in the Knock, Paul, I I like

1097
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:34,679
the Knack.

1098
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,559
Speaker 1: It was the first record I ever got in my life,

1099
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:37,559
was NICKA Get the Knack.

1100
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:38,519
Speaker 10: That was next week.

1101
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:48,679
Speaker 4: It's the Knack versus Unmasked. Yeah, right now, what I

1102
00:57:48,719 --> 00:57:50,320
said to Todd, don't you feel like we're in the

1103
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,239
Bootlegger right now?

1104
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I know, I know they closed down, they closed down

1105
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,920
restaurants and bars around us talking this ship just like

1106
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,920
out sweeping and we're still talking about I think it's super.

1107
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,599
Speaker 12: Interesting that that the four of you, because I haven't

1108
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,760
heard your answer, is he are just how you all

1109
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:12,360
are so fucking wrong? It's just so interesting because talk

1110
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,480
to me, because fucking it's an Ace song and it's

1111
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,920
yea and by the way, you're like, it just sounds

1112
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,440
like the Knack.

1113
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: Okay exactly, I.

1114
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 8: Said, it sounds like mediocre knack. O.

1115
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: Well, I would rather listen to the Knack.

1116
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:34,039
Speaker 3: So like, you're a super douchebag for saying.

1117
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,039
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you didn't right for roly Stone, Just.

1118
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:40,719
Speaker 3: Talk to me.

1119
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: I I have to go with sure know something. Look,

1120
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,880
obviously Ace wonk YadA, YadA, YadA, Ace Apologist, YadA, YadA, YadA.

1121
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,199
But I think at this is the point where Ace's

1122
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:58,400
songs got wordy and trying too hard to rhyme, and

1123
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:04,119
uh it's just as it is. The worst rhymey song

1124
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:05,880
the kids ever did is Room Service.

1125
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 10: I'm a lucky it's a great song.

1126
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 13: I think that this has actually better lyrical content than

1127
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:21,119
Room Service.

1128
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,719
Speaker 4: Does anyone ever listened to Kiss for lyrical content?

1129
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,239
Speaker 3: No, that's a good point.

1130
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: You don't Kiss record because they're cheesy.

1131
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: Come on, jesus. Yeah, So I have to go with

1132
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:47,360
like a hot knife through butter Naked City versus Peter

1133
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,880
Chris Dirty Living.

1134
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: We're going I'm.

1135
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:58,039
Speaker 4: At I'll say, I'll say Naked City. I like wrote it.

1136
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: I really liked her to live in. Actually think it's

1137
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,840
pretty cool. So I always love Peter's voice.

1138
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:04,519
Speaker 3: I think I think it's one of Peter's best songs. Yeah,

1139
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:05,960
but I gotta go Naked City.

1140
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 12: Naked City, Yeah, I like, I like, I like Gene.

1141
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,199
I like when he when he takes over the mic.

1142
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:13,360
So yeah, that's same.

1143
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,639
Speaker 1: I can see Ed just like making it. You're like,

1144
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,559
you're like like Johnny Cochran, You're ready to go out

1145
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:20,239
and make your case.

1146
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Ed, I'll let you think about

1147
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,000
it for a second, and I'll go. I think Dirty

1148
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:32,400
Livin would have fit better on Unmasked, and I'm gonna

1149
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,159
go Naked City.

1150
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:39,719
Speaker 4: I go naked. I'm going Naked City. I think Dirty

1151
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Living has too much of a discoy field. There's like

1152
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,800
this synth line that runs to it. I don't that.

1153
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:52,599
I don't like that. That's not all right. So Naked

1154
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:53,320
City I go.

1155
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,239
Speaker 1: Is Peter Chris is Peter Chris on drums on that

1156
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,559
song that might be the one song that he is.

1157
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: It Lester.

1158
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he drums and lead vocals on a

1159
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,119
new song that was like an old song.

1160
01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:08,679
Speaker 1: Oh okay, there you go.

1161
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go. Charisma versus Tomorrow.

1162
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,119
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Charisma Christmas one

1163
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,199
of my favorite Jeen songs. Really, I mean, that's that's

1164
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:26,639
a giant list, but I really the solo band that

1165
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:29,159
he did a couple of years ago was doing that

1166
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:31,760
stuff and I was like yes. I was like, so yeah,

1167
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,239
I'm any Chrisma. That's a great song.

1168
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Wait is it tomorrow or is that what makes the

1169
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,199
world go round? That's next? Oh, that's Nextly I slipped them.

1170
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm grad Chrisma.

1171
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,239
Speaker 2: Oh ship, yeah it is. It is what makes the

1172
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:48,559
world go round. I'm sorry, I I skipped that one.

1173
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:48,920
My bad.

1174
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: Christmas still wins for me. Christmas?

1175
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:59,639
Speaker 4: Wait, what are we doing now? What I mean? I'm

1176
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,880
I'm always Paul all the way. What makes the world

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01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,039
go on?

1178
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,679
Speaker 2: What makes them?

1179
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 8: I'm definitely what makes the role go around is one

1180
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,320
of my favorite tracks on Unmasks.

1181
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,599
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go that. I like that one. Charisma

1182
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,880
is a cool song. And Charisma was I think the

1183
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,079
second single from Dynasty and I have a Dance twelve

1184
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:25,599
inch extended remix of I was made for Loving You,

1185
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:27,239
and I believe there's one that was.

1186
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,039
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said dance remix after you said

1187
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:38,880
twelve inch Hey, good thing?

1188
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: Are you even wearing pants during this?

1189
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:49,199
Speaker 12: I'm sure, I'm I'm I'm still Charisma is still my choice.

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01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:52,880
I mean, right between the well, here.

1191
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,039
Speaker 2: Let's do this because you have to. You have a

1192
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:56,159
heart out in four minutes.

1193
01:02:57,159 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: You Charisma as well?

1194
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, there's more.

1195
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 12: There's more songs on Unmasked, right, And I think they

1196
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:06,039
if the the idea of like, which one is better

1197
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,320
between Dynasty and Unmasked, and I think the idea is

1198
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,760
that supposedly going into this, somehow Dynasty is a superior

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,400
record to unmask I actually disagree. I think I'm perfectly happy.

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01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:21,559
I'm happy with both of them because I think they're

1201
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,199
great records. But if i'm, you know, trying to be

1202
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,840
a contrarian, if everyone's gonna be like Unmasked is somehow

1203
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,960
an inferior record, I say fuck you, and I'm going with, well.

1204
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: Here, let's settled a knife fight at the routs parking

1205
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:36,800
rock and.

1206
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 4: Roll routes, Like right, well, how about how about we

1207
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,960
do this what's fine is we won't be the only

1208
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:42,719
knife fight there.

1209
01:03:44,159 --> 01:03:45,199
Speaker 1: It's a regular knife fight.

1210
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,679
Speaker 3: What are you guys fighting about? Like, you know argument, Yeah,

1211
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,679
they're fighting.

1212
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 8: About versus like yeah, enough enough versus jet Boy.

1213
01:03:56,119 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: Like I'm ready, all right, I bet man, let's do this.

1214
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:05,639
Speaker 2: But motherfucker, I'm gonna finish these two records with you

1215
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,280
and then we can go on after the break and

1216
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:12,239
finished our comparisons. So I'm gonna go We'll just do

1217
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:18,119
this quiz round style. So we got Tomorrow versus Magic Touch.

1218
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, uh tomorrow.

1219
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:28,519
Speaker 2: Okay. Wow, two sides of the Coin versus Hard Times

1220
01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:30,440
Paul g Ace versus Ace.

1221
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a tough one.

1222
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,639
Speaker 3: Hard Times, I think better.

1223
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,159
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a hard one at all.

1224
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1225
01:04:38,639 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, actually I've got two sides.

1226
01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, just chat, Just hold on to that for

1227
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,639
a second. We got X ray Eyes Jeane versus She's

1228
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:56,119
So europe Yeah, that's like, that's like I actually that's

1229
01:04:56,199 --> 01:05:04,159
like Sophie's choice. That does it gets God's joint for

1230
01:05:04,239 --> 01:05:06,159
me European.

1231
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 12: But X ray Eyes is it is a really interesting

1232
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,199
I hate to say that because I think it contradicts

1233
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:15,280
the fact that we picked Unmasked. I think if we

1234
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,320
listen back to which songs I'm picking, I might have

1235
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,719
already maybe agreed or disagreed with myself.

1236
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: That right, he might be the better record.

1237
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: But uh, fuck, you're you gotta go European? Come on,

1238
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,760
I love that song? Is am I getting this right?

1239
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,079
Speaker 12: Doesn't Jeane hit like one of the highest notes he's

1240
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:38,519
ever ever hits the back end of that track, which.

1241
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: Is an unbelievable vocal. Yeah, it is. It's one of

1242
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,480
the best. You know, such a solid vocal on that.

1243
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,119
Speaker 4: X ray Eyes he hits high at the end. That's

1244
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:52,119
what you're talking about. No, we're talking about right, because

1245
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:54,960
of x ray Eyes too at the end on the Faith.

1246
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call the call to draw.

1247
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: Ah.

1248
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

1249
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:01,559
Speaker 12: It's all honest answers X ray As. I think it's

1250
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:03,079
a really kind of cool production.

1251
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: I like.

1252
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: I like how it's produced.

1253
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 4: I like it's way more gene like too.

1254
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:13,159
Speaker 2: Easy as a scene, easy as a scenes versus savior

1255
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,039
love fave your love. See there, you just destroyed yourself.

1256
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: You played yourself son, all that it is.

1257
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: Six fifty nine. You have a heart out.

1258
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 15: There's two under songs on the fucking the other record.

1259
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:33,280
I know, but right, girl versus you know all that

1260
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,239
I want, they're both. I picked them both because they're

1261
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:42,280
on that record. Guys, Eddie has two more songs.

1262
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:45,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Yeah, there's nine tracks.

1263
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: On nine tracks on Dynasty, yep.

1264
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: And eleven on on un Masks.

1265
01:06:49,639 --> 01:06:55,079
Speaker 2: Guys, Todd, Chad, Paul, Eddie. I love you, guys. I'm

1266
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:58,840
so happy we did this. I Isy, thank you for

1267
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,679
having me on the show. You listening out there, please

1268
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don't be covidiots, stay safe, do the fucking right thing.

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Speaker 12: Be kind to one another. Everyone is it's a weird

1270
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fucking time. We're all gonna get through this. Music is

1271
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,159
gonna come back. And I so greatly appreciate these manversations

1272
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:18,039
with me.

1273
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,119
Speaker 2: It's fucking great. Thank you so much. And Trump and

1274
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:24,159
says Trump won't be have it, won't have me on

1275
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his show. I'll fucking get hammered on your show sometime.

1276
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and you're you're welcome anytime, you know.

1277
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 4: Love is she talking about this guy crowbars his way

1278
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:43,280
in everything.

1279
01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: Rock and roll? Thanks buddy, all right here, we're gonna

1280
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,760
do this. We're gonna take a short break. We'll come

1281
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,199
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to bounce. He had a heart out at seven o'clock,

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which is sucks, but it is what it is. He's

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1354
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for it, the Metal Edge magazine cover that I did?

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Did you see the very top? No, we're it said? Uh?

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Two thousand and one, twenty twenty one, Chad Stewart, Dude, dude, calendar.

1358
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Speaker 3: Wait, do you see it? We're gonna enjoy it, I'm

1359
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:18,960
telling you.

1360
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:23,359
Speaker 2: All right, So we left off did we leave off

1361
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,279
at Magic Touch?

1362
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,319
Speaker 3: Magic Touch?

1363
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: All right?

1364
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 4: I saw what makes the world go round? Was the

1365
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:30,880
last thing?

1366
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: Yes, so track five? Track five, So it was, yeah,

1367
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,760
charisma versus what makes the world go round? Right now?

1368
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: We already did charisma.

1369
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,119
Speaker 4: He did that one.

1370
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: We did that one.

1371
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I was definitely charisma, I know. Yeah, we already did

1372
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Magic Touch.

1373
01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:55,279
Speaker 4: Too, did we? No?

1374
01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I already did

1375
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,000
Magic Touch.

1376
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I think we only got through the

1377
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:06,600
four and then I'm had a bounce, so we just

1378
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:12,239
did the final Yeah, so it would be charisma versus

1379
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:13,800
what makes the world go round?

1380
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh, charisma for me, Charisma for me.

1381
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:23,119
Speaker 4: These guys are what makes the world go around for me. Yeah,

1382
01:13:23,279 --> 01:13:25,560
I think Charisma is a cool gene song. But I

1383
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,720
what makes the world go around? Just because I always

1384
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,680
like fall songs better.

1385
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that is definitely a better, better song.

1386
01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great song. That's a tough one.

1387
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,199
Speaker 4: Is there's a part in that song too, like after

1388
01:13:41,239 --> 01:13:46,920
the bridge whatever to you and then and then it

1389
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:52,279
goes into that part liked so I like when there's

1390
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:55,520
the poppy stuff and then there's that old there's some

1391
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,119
Kiss guitar crunch and I.

1392
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:01,159
Speaker 1: Love totally totally agreed.

1393
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: Dude, here's a here's a great fucking line from the

1394
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,800
uh from the chat room sledgehammer. Checking in as an outsider,

1395
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:14,319
I can see Kiss fans are unanimously, unanimously wrong about everything.

1396
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,960
You and my friend get the Pat Fontaine laugh.

1397
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a segment of people that think

1398
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,119
we're wrong for liking Kiss, you realize.

1399
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,039
Speaker 4: So.

1401
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: Now we got Magic Touch versus Tomorrow, I'm gonna.

1402
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,079
Speaker 1: Say magic Touch. She's got them. That's that big old

1403
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:39,840
Paul Stanley boys.

1404
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, I'm going Magic Touch too.

1405
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,279
Speaker 4: I love Tomorrow because it's good power pop. But I'm

1406
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:52,079
gonna I'm gonna make a what do they call this?

1407
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:56,239
A hot take? A bold take? What do the kids

1408
01:14:56,279 --> 01:15:02,079
call this? I will say of the tire track listing

1409
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,359
of both records, magic Touch is my favorite song.

1410
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: Wow Wow.

1411
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,239
Speaker 4: Magic Touch is just everything I love about great Paul

1412
01:15:12,319 --> 01:15:19,479
Stanley's songs, huge power chords, the vocal, the breakdown part

1413
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,840
when he goes into that falsetto and then Dan Danny

1414
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,079
and then there's a little feedback then Dan Yeah, and

1415
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:32,800
that's sick. Hey, I'll tell you a quick, quick thing,

1416
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:37,399
please do so when kiss used to still talk to me,

1417
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:45,399
talk to Ed, talk to head more specifically Gene and Paul,

1418
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:52,439
more specifically Paul that I did an interview with them

1419
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,279
for the first Kissology for VH one Classic. We did

1420
01:15:56,279 --> 01:16:00,680
it at Henson in LA and Paul was getting ready

1421
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,399
for his solo tour at the time, and we were

1422
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:07,239
taking a break from shooting and having something to eat,

1423
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,199
and we're at the catering table and everyone's making a

1424
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,960
little plate and I kind of said to Paul, I said, hey,

1425
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,760
I'm excited about the solo tour. I really hope you

1426
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,439
do some some you know, deep tracks, because there's some

1427
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,960
great stuff i'd love to hear live. And he's like, so,

1428
01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:27,960
what are you thinking, And I said, well, I'll give

1429
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:30,840
you he goes. He actually said, I swear on my kids.

1430
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,239
He's like, give me some ideas. So I said, well,

1431
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:35,159
there's two that come right to mind that I killed

1432
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:37,359
it here and he said what are they? And I said,

1433
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:38,399
I guess what you said?

1434
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,039
Speaker 1: Can I guess magic.

1435
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, A million to one Yes, bo spot On you

1436
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:49,439
know me. Well, the funniest thing was Hean was standing

1437
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,920
right there and he hears me saying this. He goes,

1438
01:16:52,199 --> 01:17:00,199
I don't know you these songs, and so then I

1439
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:03,000
don't know what's gonna happen. I swear this story on

1440
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:05,640
my kids, so I just say this. We go back

1441
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:11,159
to shooting. The that tour plays the Irving Plaza in

1442
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,880
New York. I go to the show. I'm in the

1443
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,159
upstairs area, just out just where they've like a rope

1444
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:22,960
with like dead guests and stuff, and show ends. This

1445
01:17:23,079 --> 01:17:27,279
show's over maybe all of three minutes. And this was

1446
01:17:27,319 --> 01:17:29,159
even at a point where I was like hot and

1447
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:31,439
he was hot and cold with me. Like one minute,

1448
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,399
I was he liked me. In the next minute, I

1449
01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:35,680
don't know what flipped and he hated me. So I

1450
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,760
was this is Paul Yeah. So so I just went

1451
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,119
totally as a fan. I wasn't looking for anything. I

1452
01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:44,840
wasn't even trying to get in the velvet rope area.

1453
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,359
I was just hanging and a guy comes out who

1454
01:17:48,399 --> 01:17:51,319
was his tour manager and comes up to me goes,

1455
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,039
you're you're ready, trunk, and I go, yeah, and I

1456
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:55,680
don't know if he's gonna throw me out or what

1457
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,960
was gonna happen. And he goes, come here, Paul wants

1458
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,760
to see you. He was off stage all of three minutes.

1459
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:07,840
He whisks me by everybody, family, friends, everyone, into the

1460
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,840
dressing room. There's Paul towel around his neck. I'll never forget.

1461
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,720
He was eating like a aluminum foil tin of some

1462
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,960
sort of Chinese food or something. And I walk in

1463
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,319
and he's sweating. He's just off stage and as soon

1464
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:23,000
as the door opens, he just looks at me goes,

1465
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,920
you got him. I told you you magic guts, sir,

1466
01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:29,479
o' fuckmin what do you think?

1467
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:32,359
Speaker 3: And I was like I was like Ralph.

1468
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:38,199
Speaker 4: Cranton and the Honeymoons. I'm like numb chefer and I go,

1469
01:18:38,319 --> 01:18:40,039
Paul was great, it was so cool you did that.

1470
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:41,359
He's like, yeah, how did it feel?

1471
01:18:41,319 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: It was?

1472
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 4: He was like great, and then yeah, it was like

1473
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:46,960
three minutes. And then I was like, look, thank you

1474
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,520
for bringing me in. You got a lot of friends

1475
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,600
out there. I'll let you see your family. The show

1476
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,880
was great, and I left, but it's something I'll never

1477
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,560
forget because I literally put those things in his head

1478
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,640
and he he acknowledged it at that time, and that

1479
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:01,840
that was like the second to last time you ever

1480
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,640
talked to him. Memory, if you.

1481
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,159
Speaker 8: Don't mind me asking not to like derail this, but

1482
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,720
I've heard I don't never asked you why did he

1483
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,279
get mad at you and stop talking to you?

1484
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 4: Oh God, Well, you know that's a whole podcast. That's

1485
01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:18,680
a whole podcast. But in a nutshell, Paul in a

1486
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,720
nut and which I know because no one can figure

1487
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,720
it out because I'm such I've.

1488
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 8: Heard you reference it a like I can point to

1489
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,439
gene things with me, but I can't like, Yeah, that's look.

1490
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,399
Speaker 4: Anybody that's being truthful here knows he's a very sensitive guy, yep,

1491
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,720
to an extreme. And uh, I think it's a combination

1492
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,000
of things, but predominantly the fact that with him you

1493
01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:42,760
have to be all in and on board with what

1494
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,479
the agenda is on that time, and if you're a

1495
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,439
dissenting voice and you question it or you don't agree

1496
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,600
with it, you get painted as an enemy. And in

1497
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,520
a nutshell, I've said countless times, a million times, I

1498
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,399
have no problem with Tommy Fair, I have no problem

1499
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:01,920
with Eric Singer. They're tru musicians they're good people. I

1500
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,359
know them both. I don't blame them for having the gig.

1501
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,520
I don't blame them for what they do. But as

1502
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,800
a lifelong Kiss fan, that was a line in the

1503
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000
sand that I just choose not to go see it.

1504
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:14,800
I can't look at another guy singing shock me. I

1505
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,840
don't care dressed his ace. I don't care if it's

1506
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,840
Tommy or or anyone. I just it's over for me.

1507
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:26,680
So two thousand backed, I'm good. Yeah, that's all. I

1508
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,279
don't blame them for doing it. People still want to go.

1509
01:20:29,359 --> 01:20:32,479
I don't judge them, but I can't that as a fan.

1510
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,640
Everybody's got a line, and let's be honest, it's Kiss fans.

1511
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,000
We've all accepted a lot.

1512
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:40,319
Speaker 10: Yeah we really have.

1513
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: We're debating, n.

1514
01:20:46,079 --> 01:20:46,159
Speaker 1: Ed.

1515
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:48,039
Speaker 2: All you gotta do to get back on is good

1516
01:20:48,039 --> 01:20:52,039
graces is just start retweeting his pandemic paulg fucking tweets

1517
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,600
telling everybody to stay home and wear a mask, and

1518
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,039
maybe he'll start to love you again.

1519
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 4: I can't. I'm blocked for real. Look, I got stories

1520
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,159
for days that people wouldn't believe, and maybe some would

1521
01:21:07,159 --> 01:21:09,720
if they really knew them, and and it and I

1522
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,880
got to tell you the things, including something extremely recently

1523
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,880
that I could if I wanted to cause a problem

1524
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:26,640
or just get headlines, I could say, you do, I'm.

1525
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,079
Speaker 2: Not that guy.

1526
01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 4: But just as they'll always be a special band to me.

1527
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,840
And I say this all the time every band I love,

1528
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,000
I I have an era that I didn't like, you know,

1529
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:40,560
and it's and for most bands it's okay if you

1530
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,439
say that for some reason. With Kiss, when you do,

1531
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,000
you get painted as a devil despite the fact that

1532
01:21:47,119 --> 01:21:50,319
you support the hell out of them. So it's just

1533
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,039
it's just that he's a really sensitive guy. But when

1534
01:21:53,079 --> 01:21:56,319
it comes to Aerosmith, you know, I love Aerosmith, I

1535
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:59,439
hate just bush Play, you go on and on. I

1536
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,800
love you, I hate misdemeanor. I mean, it's fine to

1537
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,119
say that for most fans. For some reason, with him,

1538
01:22:07,279 --> 01:22:10,159
you know, if you have something that's counter to the agenda,

1539
01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:13,520
and you've got a pretty decent reach, it's not doesn't

1540
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,520
fall in line with the marching quarters at the time.

1541
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,079
Speaker 3: You hate just push playing more than Music from Another Dimension?

1542
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, really, Music from Music from Another Dimension

1543
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,399
would have been a good record. If they cut five

1544
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,319
songs off of it. I could see that I love

1545
01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:31,039
legendary child on that record.

1546
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get back to kiss Ed thoughts done

1547
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,560
with Mer's most underrated Aerosmith record, Is that a question?

1548
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just read the I just read the ted

1549
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,640
Ted Templeman book, and he did that record.

1550
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 4: He was actually he was actually intended to do the

1551
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,199
next record too from the vacation.

1552
01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1553
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they you know history, right, you know the

1554
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,960
history was made with the next choice producers. I guess is.

1555
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 4: I can't say it's the most underrated because I think

1556
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,920
I like the record a lot, but I think that

1557
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,680
Night in the Routs is way more underrated. And Night

1558
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,880
in the Ruts is an amazing record. And I also

1559
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:20,800
love Rocking a Hard Place, which is super underrated. That

1560
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,960
period records, amazing record, that whole that whole era.

1561
01:23:25,119 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really quick from the chat room, LORI busting balls,

1562
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,840
he says, instead of shocked me, it's block me.

1563
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 10: All right.

1564
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 2: So now we go to hard Times, the two the

1565
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,399
a song versus two sides of the coin?

1566
01:23:51,279 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: What was it? What was the second song?

1567
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: Two sides?

1568
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,119
Speaker 1: Oh right, We had this conversation, I'm gonna go hard

1569
01:23:57,159 --> 01:24:01,560
Times by a hair with no explanation, with no exposition,

1570
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,600
no further just hard Times.

1571
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 11: I'm going two sides of the coin, mostly because of

1572
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,479
the drum break that is PRETI yeah.

1573
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,199
Speaker 4: I think.

1574
01:24:11,279 --> 01:24:14,319
Speaker 8: I think hard Times is one of, if not my

1575
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:16,520
favorite a song and Kisses catalog.

1576
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,159
Speaker 4: I'm going hard Times. I love that song. That's a

1577
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:21,279
good one, Edward hard Times.

1578
01:24:21,279 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: A guess what two sides of the.

1579
01:24:26,079 --> 01:24:30,119
Speaker 4: Again, Ace versus Ace hard Time? How it lines up

1580
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:30,439
like that?

1581
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1582
01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:31,399
Speaker 1: Is it?

1583
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1584
01:24:32,039 --> 01:24:34,199
Speaker 4: The Times? But you go in order.

1585
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go hard Times because, like again, two sides.

1586
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:42,560
As fun as it is, it gets into that wordy

1587
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,079
forcing a rhyme. Ace lyrics.

1588
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: You've given us a lot of thought. I appreciate that.

1589
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do my best, you know. Yeah, that's what I.

1590
01:24:55,279 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 4: Like hard Times because lyrics. Like again, nobody listened to

1591
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,239
kiss for lyrics. But Ace's story it's a street song,

1592
01:25:02,319 --> 01:25:02,479
you know.

1593
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1594
01:25:03,119 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now we got Gen versus Gene, X ray Eyes versus.

1595
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,359
She's so repeated.

1596
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 1: I know what Chad's gonna pick, but I'm I'm x

1597
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,399
ray Eyes is a great song. It's I think Gene

1598
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,439
really sings it. Actually, Jen sings a shit out of

1599
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,600
both those songs. But when Gene because you know, he

1600
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,960
built that character and he has to sing in that

1601
01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:29,800
character all the time, but once in a while he'll

1602
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,199
kind of step out a little bit, and that's one

1603
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:32,840
of those ones. The solo album has a lot of

1604
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,119
that stepping out right, and this one I think does too,

1605
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:37,680
where he really kind of shows off a bit, which

1606
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,720
I did well.

1607
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 11: I think that's part of what maybe part of the

1608
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,640
problem with this record is you can't really see the

1609
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,840
demon singing She's so European. Like it was right the

1610
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,319
jexaposition on it was just fucked, But I'm still going

1611
01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:50,159
she's so European.

1612
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Look before we move on to Paul, do you think

1613
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,039
that might be the problem with these two records, is

1614
01:25:57,079 --> 01:25:59,600
you can't picture those characters singing those songs.

1615
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: I think it's a large part of it.

1616
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think I think it also goes back

1617
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,079
to like the characters became bigger than the music. And

1618
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:13,920
like I said earlier, this band This Is Kiss were

1619
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,800
never as heavy as everybody thought they looked, and I

1620
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,840
feel like the characters became bigger than the music for

1621
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,399
some people.

1622
01:26:23,119 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 11: Well, and let's be honest, the characters are gonna outlive,

1623
01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:28,560
They're gonna keep going anyway they already have.

1624
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:35,039
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they are going to be gwar. Who's under

1625
01:26:35,079 --> 01:26:37,840
the mask? All right, Paul, what's your choice?

1626
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 4: What were we doing again?

1627
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:42,520
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1628
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 8: X ray Eyes, X ray Eyes, X ray Eyes. I'm

1629
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,239
not I don't love European as much as everybody else.

1630
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 4: X ray Eyes also, X ray Eyes are very very cool,

1631
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,920
a solo, very cool.

1632
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I gotta go X ray Eyes as well.

1633
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,960
It's just I don't know, It's like so many of

1634
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,800
these songs on Unmasked they sound like they're a fucking

1635
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:12,960
B side in an eighties b cheesy comedy movie. It's

1636
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,520
like they just sound like it.

1637
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 4: Was like from the last Weekend at Bernie Soundtrackers.

1638
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, God, even worse like Fraternity Vacation, but that

1639
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:22,760
music was better.

1640
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:25,119
Speaker 10: All right?

1641
01:27:25,319 --> 01:27:27,319
Speaker 4: So what do you do with the two songs left

1642
01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:29,199
on Unmasked? You put them against each other?

1643
01:27:29,399 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, we have one before then, right, but save

1644
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:34,920
your love versus?

1645
01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:36,399
Speaker 2: Is it saying you are correct?

1646
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: That's tough.

1647
01:27:38,039 --> 01:27:38,159
Speaker 4: You know.

1648
01:27:38,199 --> 01:27:41,039
Speaker 1: What's so funny is I'm actually doing a COVID video

1649
01:27:41,159 --> 01:27:43,279
very soon for easy as it seems, with some friends

1650
01:27:43,279 --> 01:27:46,960
of mine from Canada. Really yeah, yeah, that's a pretty

1651
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:47,800
badass song.

1652
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 3: Actually it is a badass song.

1653
01:27:51,039 --> 01:27:53,239
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot how badass it was until you

1654
01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:54,920
had to kind of get into it, like you kind

1655
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,680
of like, look at the song structured and this is

1656
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,760
very clever. That said save your love.

1657
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Right exactly. You couldn't have said it better for me.

1658
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,159
Speaker 1: The Savior is another. It's it's one of those examples

1659
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:15,800
from like you know, you get that little he dips

1660
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,560
his toe in the pool with shock me on on

1661
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,439
on Love Gun and then all of a sudden it's

1662
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,760
Ace Freeley just running, you know.

1663
01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:25,199
Speaker 4: Solo album and then Dynasty.

1664
01:28:25,239 --> 01:28:27,159
Speaker 1: It's just like then you're just loading up the and

1665
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:29,720
in many ways, those his songs are some of my favorite.

1666
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,039
That's why I have to go with when we were

1667
01:28:31,039 --> 01:28:33,439
talking about two thousand Man earlier as a kid, I

1668
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,399
didn't know what that was. I just thought a cool

1669
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,720
last song about the future.

1670
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,079
Speaker 2: Do you think that Do you think that's because A's

1671
01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:41,439
got a chip on his shoulder because his student, his

1672
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,199
uh solo record did better than everyone else's.

1673
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think it's a very curious

1674
01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:49,640
conversation because he was a very prolific writer already with

1675
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,600
Cold Jin and as strange ways.

1676
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 3: Just you probably know this. How pissed off was he

1677
01:28:57,159 --> 01:29:00,039
by this point, you kept.

1678
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 4: He wanted to leave. And the reason I brought this

1679
01:29:03,119 --> 01:29:05,800
up to him privately and publicly in the past, he

1680
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,600
wanted he was. I mean, look, those seventy eight solo

1681
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:16,760
records caused a lot of problems in retrospect because going

1682
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,640
into it, there was a lot of divide and drama

1683
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:25,119
and weirdness. And then the guy that the people had

1684
01:29:25,119 --> 01:29:29,279
the least expectations for making a good record makes the

1685
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,600
record and has is the only one had to hit

1686
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,960
and that blew his head up, and now I can

1687
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,399
be a solo artist. And he was already thinking about,

1688
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,279
you know, being disillusioned about everything. So I always viewed

1689
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:48,800
his increased involvement in Dynasty and unmasked directly to the

1690
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,119
fact that they wanted to keep them on the hook

1691
01:29:51,159 --> 01:29:54,039
and keep them interested and you know, feed them and

1692
01:29:54,039 --> 01:29:59,680
make them sort of an equal contributor vocally and writing wise,

1693
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:02,439
to hold on to him in the band. And I

1694
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,279
think that's what a lot of that was about at

1695
01:30:04,279 --> 01:30:04,680
the time.

1696
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:07,319
Speaker 1: But Gene and Paul aren't dummies either. They know that

1697
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,880
Ace Frehley was a very sort of like beloved personality,

1698
01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:15,039
so that when something like New York Groove becomes a

1699
01:30:15,079 --> 01:30:16,680
hit song, they go, well, we have to have him

1700
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,960
sing more songs because they know him now, and we

1701
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,039
can use that to our own benefit as a fourth

1702
01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:27,159
member of Kiss, as a fourth voice and Kiss really

1703
01:30:27,399 --> 01:30:30,239
so there's always that Beatles aspect of like there was

1704
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:34,079
never really just like a lead singer and some backup guys.

1705
01:30:34,079 --> 01:30:37,920
There was always four separate entities. And when Ace finally

1706
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,680
stepped out that way, he stepped way out, you know,

1707
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,239
and like in many ways, maybe much further than anybody

1708
01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:45,600
else for.

1709
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 4: A minute, right and think about this, Think about this.

1710
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,680
The cracks were really showing during these two records with

1711
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:57,079
Peter unmask. He's basically out already the dynasty. He's hanging

1712
01:30:57,159 --> 01:31:00,760
by a thread. So Gen and Paul also aren't stupid

1713
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,279
to know, hey, we may lose our first original member

1714
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,960
and Peter, we can't lose half the band out of

1715
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:11,880
the Kdols. So that was also like, let's keep feeding

1716
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,319
some carrots to eights.

1717
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: And they're also smart enough to have Peter on the

1718
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,960
artwork for an album he's not even involved in and

1719
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,560
for all intensive purposes, was already out of the band.

1720
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Even though he was in the video.

1721
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,359
Speaker 1: Preachers phrase absolutely absolutely yep.

1722
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: So where do we leave off? I think, and Paul

1723
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:30,359
haven't gone yet?

1724
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 18: No, yeah, go PAULI I I That's my Easy as

1725
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,079
it seems is my favorite song on Unmasked, despite the

1726
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:41,680
keyboards that drive me crazy every time I listen to it.

1727
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:45,039
Speaker 8: I just I love Paul too much. That's I'm going

1728
01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:46,159
easy as it seems.

1729
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,239
Speaker 4: Easy as it seems to get to what again, Save

1730
01:31:51,279 --> 01:31:55,279
Your Love? Save Your Love? Easy as it seems is

1731
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:02,880
super discoing. I mean that baseline is soon disco. Yeah,

1732
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:10,159
it's like a whole that's like that's really like out

1733
01:32:10,199 --> 01:32:14,079
there poppy disco y. The keyboards, I agree, are super

1734
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:18,159
over the top too much. There's literally a keyboard break, yeah, song,

1735
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,039
which is crazy. I mean again, Paul's vocal, I mean,

1736
01:32:22,079 --> 01:32:25,279
Paul was singing great during this time. All these records,

1737
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,720
all his vocals on these two records are are just

1738
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:34,439
so powerful and so great. But Savior Love is is

1739
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,359
a really great song, a great lead guitar solo break

1740
01:32:38,399 --> 01:32:41,600
from me and you know what I love about that song?

1741
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:48,520
Also is kiss didn't sing together enough for my tastes. Agreed.

1742
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,039
And when you hear the chorus on that song and

1743
01:32:51,119 --> 01:32:53,279
you hear Paul really high in the mix and the

1744
01:32:53,359 --> 01:33:00,079
chorus going, I love that that.

1745
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,359
Speaker 1: We always talk about that because you know how, I'm like,

1746
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,520
uh in. You can hear Jeane Oliver Shandy in the

1747
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,800
background too. It's like, I love when you can hear

1748
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,399
the other guy's voices in the songs.

1749
01:33:10,319 --> 01:33:14,199
Speaker 4: And on the on the fan stave of your love.

1750
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,159
And if you listen, because we're all geeks, at the

1751
01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:20,000
very end, as the as it fades out, you turn

1752
01:33:20,039 --> 01:33:22,479
it up loud and you hear Paul over the end

1753
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:29,039
going say go love. He sings, He sings the lead

1754
01:33:29,079 --> 01:33:31,479
part right on the fate of the song. I wish

1755
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,199
they did more throughout their whole career. I wish I

1756
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:36,760
know they did it a lot, but I wish they

1757
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:37,439
did it even more.

1758
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,319
Speaker 3: They sound great together, I mean that was the thing.

1759
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Those those voices mended so well together, which

1760
01:33:44,319 --> 01:33:45,159
was part of the magic.

1761
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1762
01:33:47,079 --> 01:33:48,159
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1763
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,399
Speaker 1: Man, man, you had a lot of hat changes.

1764
01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like, look at home, I brought home all these helmets.

1765
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:57,279
Speaker 4: It's like it's like going to a share concert.

1766
01:34:00,079 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah bye bye helmless. When I was a kid. So

1767
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:08,159
now we got the last two songs on on Unmasked

1768
01:34:08,199 --> 01:34:12,119
Torpedo Girl and You're all that I want, Oh boy.

1769
01:34:13,319 --> 01:34:17,159
Speaker 11: As cool as Torpedo Girl is because it's just so

1770
01:34:17,279 --> 01:34:18,000
fucking weird.

1771
01:34:18,399 --> 01:34:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go with You're all.

1772
01:34:21,079 --> 01:34:22,119
Speaker 10: That I want.

1773
01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 11: Paul's vocal on that is unbelievably good.

1774
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 8: We were talking about we were talking about aces, rhyming lyrics.

1775
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, You're all that. I want someone

1776
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:32,399
by Jeans Chad.

1777
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jean's vocals what I mean.

1778
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, although although same scenarios, save your little time in

1779
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,880
that yeah yea and over the top too.

1780
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,199
Speaker 8: Yep, totally, that's what I was gonna that's just Yeah,

1781
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:50,920
you can go Eddie if you want. I was gonna say,

1782
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:55,800
I I'll go the Torpedo Girl lyrics rhyme too much.

1783
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: It's like Doctor Seuss lyrics. I can't he.

1784
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 4: You know what.

1785
01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:06,159
Speaker 8: No, And I love Gene and Paul together. I'm You're

1786
01:35:06,199 --> 01:35:07,319
all ye You're all that I need.

1787
01:35:07,359 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: That's it for me.

1788
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, same here.

1789
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have to go that way too. Although I

1790
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:18,239
have to say, but Torpedo Girls definitely got a real

1791
01:35:18,279 --> 01:35:20,359
soft spot in my heart because I love when a skits.

1792
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,319
It seems like that one's one of those songs where

1793
01:35:22,319 --> 01:35:24,359
they just kind of turned him loose, like I don't

1794
01:35:24,359 --> 01:35:26,479
even know if anybody else is in the studio except.

1795
01:35:26,319 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 11: Him and Antony went off the rails or on the rails, whichever.

1796
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Like the riff is dope, and it's like you could

1797
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,600
just tell he's that in the time of his life

1798
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,359
and it just really translates.

1799
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:41,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, and you can tell it's not Peter Chris

1800
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:47,760
because there's double bass in there. Yeah, that's true. I

1801
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,800
already said I love you all that I want. It's

1802
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,640
one of my favorite Gene songs from that era. I

1803
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,520
did see him do it live, which is crazy that

1804
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,520
of the last song on Unmasked was one of the

1805
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,680
two they did when I saw them at the Palladium

1806
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,479
in nineteen eighty. So yeah, I like it. It's got

1807
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,439
a pretty crunchy open and I love Gene and Paul

1808
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,000
singing on the chorus, and I just I just think

1809
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,000
it's a cool song. I actually just recently heard the

1810
01:36:16,039 --> 01:36:19,640
demo for it on on YouTube or something.

1811
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:22,319
Speaker 1: The demo it might be on the vault thing.

1812
01:36:22,319 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: I don't know where it originally came from, but I

1813
01:36:24,039 --> 01:36:26,560
did hear the demo online and it was interesting to

1814
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:31,000
hear the turns, the way the song evolved, But it

1815
01:36:31,079 --> 01:36:33,159
was I'll definitely go with that one.

1816
01:36:33,279 --> 01:36:34,199
Speaker 3: Who wrote that one?

1817
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: Uh? That was yeah? Ed tell us, tell us who

1818
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:39,920
wrote this?

1819
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,319
Speaker 4: That might be Gene and PONSI. I would think you

1820
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,399
are correct.

1821
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: There you go.

1822
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 4: Thirty just found this.

1823
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Check it out the cent list for the Palladium show.

1824
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,039
You ready for this? You have time for this?

1825
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Of course, we have plenty of time.

1826
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:58,199
Speaker 4: Detroit pull jin Strutter doctor Luz that.

1827
01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:01,199
Speaker 1: It was the first on mat song. Oh they did

1828
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:05,479
house Yeah, Firehouse talking. Who's your next?

1829
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 9: On me?

1830
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: You're all that I want so adds memories into two

1831
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:16,079
thousand man guitar solo post Man I was made for

1832
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:19,000
Loving You Love Gun Shut it Out, loud bass solo

1833
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:22,119
into the God of Thunder drum solo into rock and Roll,

1834
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,960
and then for encore New York Roof, King of the

1835
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:27,279
Nighttime World and Black.

1836
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: Wow, I love groove in there.

1837
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

1838
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,520
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something else about that show, having

1839
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:38,159
been there and I have photos of this show. There's

1840
01:37:38,199 --> 01:37:40,279
one in my first book. It's a great shot because

1841
01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:42,239
you see our car very clear. That I didn't take it,

1842
01:37:42,279 --> 01:37:44,840
but it was with friends and they took the photo.

1843
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:50,479
But they were using the Dynasty same stage, but the

1844
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,640
Palladium for those that don't know which it's no longer there.

1845
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,159
But it was like a twenty five three thousand cap

1846
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:01,279
Beard in New York, right, and so everything had to

1847
01:38:01,319 --> 01:38:04,960
be way paired down. They didn't have the little stairways

1848
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,560
off of the stage, off of the drum riser, but

1849
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,560
it was the same look. It was all the same

1850
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,359
Dynasty stuff. They could fit in there. Now everybody knows

1851
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:18,199
that on that show Dynasty got a thunder, Jeane elevates

1852
01:38:18,319 --> 01:38:23,600
up into the rafters, sings the song from there comes down. Well,

1853
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:26,640
it's a small place. There's nowhere to go up. You know,

1854
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,079
there's not enough elevation to do that. You can't rig

1855
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:34,239
that into the ceiling. So as an alternate, what he did,

1856
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:37,600
and I will never forget this is they had PA

1857
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,439
stacks on either side of the stage with a little

1858
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,199
stairway up to the top. So Gene went up to

1859
01:38:43,359 --> 01:38:46,880
one side of the PA. So say, he's like stage right,

1860
01:38:47,159 --> 01:38:49,159
and he's doing the blood thing and the whole intro

1861
01:38:49,239 --> 01:38:52,840
to God of Thunder and then the song starts and

1862
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,800
instead of going up, he had the harnesses on and

1863
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,000
he was supposed to swing across the stage to the

1864
01:39:01,159 --> 01:39:04,680
other PA stack and land there and do his bit there.

1865
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,399
He does the bit, he leaves, he swings, he goes

1866
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,720
over to the other side, and he whiffs on the landing,

1867
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:18,000
swings back and swings like a pendulum from in the

1868
01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:19,079
middle of the stage.

1869
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,359
Speaker 3: That's great.

1870
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,239
Speaker 4: Oh my god, man, I love it.

1871
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,039
Speaker 1: Those are the Those are the risks you take when

1872
01:39:26,079 --> 01:39:27,760
you did that kind of ship in your show. You know,

1873
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,600
it's like, right, yeah, right.

1874
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 4: There's some news there's some news footage on YouTube. The

1875
01:39:33,079 --> 01:39:35,960
local news here in New York covered that show, and

1876
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,880
there was news footage of them just before they go

1877
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,760
on stage and just you know, covering it out on

1878
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,960
the street talking about it. And I remember it was

1879
01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:47,000
you know, there was a lot of excitement just because

1880
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:49,279
first time you were seeing kiss with a new member

1881
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,840
and uh, but it was the hardcorees that were in there,

1882
01:39:53,159 --> 01:39:56,000
and they they made a shirt that said I was

1883
01:39:56,079 --> 01:40:00,680
there with the with the s in was the kiss

1884
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,520
Us and it just had the date of the show

1885
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,159
on it. Those those are super collectible. I didn't even

1886
01:40:07,159 --> 01:40:09,640
get one, but John five probably has four of them.

1887
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably can account for all of them.

1888
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, dude, I find them on fucking eBay and

1889
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,359
I buy him right now. When I talked John five

1890
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,600
with them.

1891
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 2: So it sounds I mean it sounds like, you know,

1892
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,439
going through track through track like we did. It sounds

1893
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,399
like dynasty totally.

1894
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Chat will fight you on that, But I will fight

1895
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:35,159
you on that.

1896
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 2: I know.

1897
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,399
Speaker 11: If you track by track like we did, they're they're

1898
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,640
actually well, I mean it's pretty close to me.

1899
01:40:43,239 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 1: It's pretty close. Yeah, it's pretty coquick and nect but

1900
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,960
I think I give this light neck too. I mean,

1901
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,680
for me, it was like we all talked about this,

1902
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,520
you know, it's like, oh, they lost all their fans

1903
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,359
and all. This was such a radical change. But I

1904
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,840
was like nine or something like that, so so at

1905
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,279
the time it was kind of like it was a

1906
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:02,239
new Kiss record. It was everywhere, yeah, and and you

1907
01:41:02,279 --> 01:41:04,119
didn't really even have the wherewithal to kind of go,

1908
01:41:04,199 --> 01:41:06,640
what's with these like Vegas show Girl, Like you know,

1909
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,720
the outfits are like super over the.

1910
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,359
Speaker 3: Total share their total share outfit seventy.

1911
01:41:12,039 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like the Peter with the big fur

1912
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:15,840
and all that kind of stuff.

1913
01:41:16,279 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 4: But at the time you're like.

1914
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,239
Speaker 1: This is completely acceptable. You're just like this is awesome,

1915
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:22,039
you know, and then the next album it's kind of

1916
01:41:22,039 --> 01:41:27,920
like although although it was jarring to have lost Peter Chris,

1917
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:30,600
I was also kind of excited about, like, well, who's

1918
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:31,840
this new guy and what's.

1919
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:32,359
Speaker 10: This going to be like?

1920
01:41:33,079 --> 01:41:34,039
Speaker 4: But I'm that guy.

1921
01:41:34,119 --> 01:41:36,039
Speaker 1: I was still there with Elder going like have you

1922
01:41:36,079 --> 01:41:40,800
heard this? To my friend? Where is everybody? Reaches in

1923
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,000
the Night Creatures? The night day one I bought it

1924
01:41:43,039 --> 01:41:44,920
at the store. I was the guy that of course

1925
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:45,399
who I am.

1926
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 4: Killers. Killers was a huge moment because of the four

1927
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:54,600
songs on it. That I was again in line at

1928
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:59,199
the Palladium to see Iron Maiden and there was a

1929
01:42:00,319 --> 01:42:03,079
record store around the corner from the theater and I'm

1930
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:05,079
waiting in the line to go in and a guy

1931
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:08,119
walks by with with Killers. You didn't know that album

1932
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:09,560
even existed or something.

1933
01:42:09,359 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, And I was like, what the hell

1934
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:12,039
is that?

1935
01:42:12,079 --> 01:42:14,520
Speaker 4: And he's like, it's a kiss record, there's four new songs,

1936
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,199
and I swear like me and a bunch of people

1937
01:42:17,239 --> 01:42:18,920
on the line just broke right off the line and

1938
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,359
went running over to Bim and then when you have

1939
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,840
heard Nowhere to Run and Legend Tonight and all that,

1940
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,000
you were like, that was the first sign that, Okay,

1941
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,000
they're on their way back to being kiss again.

1942
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, yeah, totally yeah. And they were not only that,

1943
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,760
they were taking it up a notch or or a

1944
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,359
few notches really, And I.

1945
01:42:36,279 --> 01:42:37,039
Speaker 3: Think Eric Carr.

1946
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 11: I think Eric Carr had a lot to do with that,

1947
01:42:39,319 --> 01:42:42,279
but because he was more of a rock like a

1948
01:42:43,319 --> 01:42:45,119
I'm not gonna say a bottom guy, but he was.

1949
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,760
He was a bombastic sounding drummer, I think kind of led.

1950
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 3: To that going back to the heavy side.

1951
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1952
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a very unique drummer.

1953
01:42:54,279 --> 01:42:56,319
Speaker 1: I was just Hea was on fire k on the

1954
01:42:56,359 --> 01:42:58,600
car in the car today, I'm driving and.

1955
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: That com parks fucking fed.

1956
01:43:00,279 --> 01:43:01,039
Speaker 4: It's bananas.

1957
01:43:01,119 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. You're like, and I'm thinking, like, I've heard that

1958
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,079
some on a thousand times in my life, but you're

1959
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:05,640
like it comes on and you're like, oh, hell yeah,

1960
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,399
I haven't heard this in a minute. And the verses

1961
01:43:07,399 --> 01:43:09,680
are pretty like, you know, normal high hat kind of

1962
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,479
drum people. When he gets to that course, god, there's

1963
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,359
a big and I'm like, well, what a very unusual

1964
01:43:15,399 --> 01:43:18,359
and unconventional drummer. But I think that really made them

1965
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:19,399
their own band.

1966
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Really.

1967
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we've been doing that Bruce Cullick thing

1968
01:43:22,119 --> 01:43:24,920
on the cruise and we play nothing but non makeup kiss,

1969
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,439
and you know, to guys like me who were invested

1970
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,920
and and everybody present here, I came to think to myself, well,

1971
01:43:32,119 --> 01:43:34,279
I love all this stuff. Does anybody give a shit

1972
01:43:34,319 --> 01:43:36,880
if we play like, you know, all this crazy shit

1973
01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:41,359
and everybody you can't you can't dig deep enough, Like

1974
01:43:41,399 --> 01:43:44,680
you cannot dig deep enough. If we decided to find

1975
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:50,119
like old like answering phone messages or something, we would

1976
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:53,479
still win. It's it's you know, because you realize how many.

1977
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,279
Because I'm of the age group where I was still

1978
01:43:55,319 --> 01:43:57,119
a kid when they had to make up, on where

1979
01:43:57,159 --> 01:43:59,720
the transition happened, where some guys, a lot of my

1980
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,800
friends are sometimes five, ten, fifteen years younger than me.

1981
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 4: And they found Kiss in the MTV heavy metal days

1982
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:08,920
where they were just another hard rock band that I

1983
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,119
guess they wore makeup at one point, but boy looking

1984
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:12,680
up his bitch and you know, or like or whatever

1985
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:13,479
they were doing right now.

1986
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Oh, they wore makeup at the eighties two.

1987
01:44:17,199 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 8: You know, and like I said, we were our age.

1988
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,159
We came in right at the tail end. But also

1989
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,760
you get someone like Jericho who swears they're better without

1990
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,600
makeup than they are with makeup, and.

1991
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,199
Speaker 4: Like, and he's not alone and there's a lot and

1992
01:44:31,239 --> 01:44:32,159
he's our age too.

1993
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:34,399
Speaker 8: So it's just it's where you came in, at what

1994
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,079
point in time that dictates how do you feel? And

1995
01:44:37,119 --> 01:44:39,760
like I said, Dynasty was the first Kiss record that

1996
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,680
I owned as a fan because I didn't have to

1997
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,560
go back and really discover it.

1998
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,520
Speaker 3: It came out when you were actually buying the buying age.

1999
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,159
Speaker 8: I was nine years old and it was like I

2000
01:44:50,199 --> 01:44:52,439
remember it at that point, it's not And again I

2001
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,279
didn't have anyone older. No one introduced me to Kiss.

2002
01:44:55,319 --> 01:44:57,680
I had to discover them on my own. So you

2003
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,479
know what here and I was made for Loving you

2004
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,279
on the radio meant something to me because it was

2005
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,000
not what my mom listened to.

2006
01:45:04,079 --> 01:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Well, they were still pretty dangerous too, because even in

2007
01:45:06,319 --> 01:45:08,600
like sixteen magazine and all that, when it's like Laife

2008
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,439
Garrett and the base of your rollers and you're like

2009
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,479
I just look by justtaposition Kiss was super dark. And

2010
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,600
that's why I think that's like you say Paul that

2011
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,880
their music seemed darker and heavier just by the way

2012
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,319
that they appeared in the way that they presented themselves,

2013
01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:26,439
so to their credit one way or the other. In memory,

2014
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,640
it's kind of like, like I've always I make I

2015
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:33,560
make big, big claims about the Kiss first. The first

2016
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,840
album to me has in retrospect become one of my

2017
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,319
favorite Kiss albums, and I have a lot of conversations

2018
01:45:39,359 --> 01:45:41,560
about it. But he's like, but the temples are all slow,

2019
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,680
the guitar sounds are too clean, and I go, yeah,

2020
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,039
but eighty percent of that album could be played live

2021
01:45:46,199 --> 01:45:50,319
right now and they'd be like totally classic songs Kissing

2022
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,560
Time and theme love theme from Kiss. So they only

2023
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,640
two songs you probably couldn't play, and maybe, uh, what's

2024
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,960
the other Sunday Driver one with a cover right, yeah, that.

2025
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:01,359
Speaker 2: Was later on.

2026
01:46:02,079 --> 01:46:06,319
Speaker 4: I love Kissing Time. I loved their version of Kiss. Yeah,

2027
01:46:06,359 --> 01:46:07,560
but we added it.

2028
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 3: Real quick.

2029
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,399
Speaker 4: Going back to Unmasked, So, I was fifteen when Unmasked

2030
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,640
came out. I remember vividly my aunt driving me to

2031
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,800
the mall to get it. And the thing that I

2032
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,399
don't know if any of you guys realize about Unmasked

2033
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:27,319
was that the rumor was the album was called Unmasked

2034
01:46:27,359 --> 01:46:31,600
because when you opened the record inside and the dust

2035
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:35,000
cover would be the first picture of them unmasked without makeup.

2036
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,760
So I remember getting that record and couldn't wait to

2037
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,560
slip the side and open it up, and I remember

2038
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,720
being really pissed.

2039
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, to be fair, they do unmask that big

2040
01:46:49,159 --> 01:46:51,199
them take their masks off. It just happens to be

2041
01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:52,760
the same exact faces and the mask.

2042
01:46:53,079 --> 01:46:55,199
Speaker 4: And then the great thing about it is we all

2043
01:46:55,239 --> 01:46:59,159
know having if you lived Kissed in that era, that

2044
01:46:59,239 --> 01:47:02,760
you were complet completely crucified by people for liking kiss

2045
01:47:03,039 --> 01:47:05,039
So I love the fact that in the little cartoon

2046
01:47:05,079 --> 01:47:07,000
at the end, the guy says, I still say they

2047
01:47:07,039 --> 01:47:10,920
suck because that's all I heard in right, That's all

2048
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,800
I heard in high school. And I was like, that's

2049
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,119
kind of I kind of like connected with that.

2050
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty ballsy of them to put

2051
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:18,720
that on the cover of their album.

2052
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 2: So the consensus is that Dynasty nudges out Unmasked.

2053
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: Unless your chat He'll meet you in the parking lot

2054
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,239
at ralphs On with a knife. Bring your own knife,

2055
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:36,119
b y b y okay.

2056
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 2: So before we get to the Ace record. I want

2057
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,479
to go through the chat because I've been neglecting the

2058
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,680
chat room. Jeffroy Lee Ross says, is he please ask

2059
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,800
Paul if there's a relaunch day from that a ledge

2060
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,399
on the calendar. Tell Eddie he rules, And what is

2061
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,760
Chad selling smoked hams from Devil Crown.

2062
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 3: That's a good idea, right it is. I may need

2063
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:57,399
your help on that one.

2064
01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 4: I've been rocking the Devil Crown shirt. I just believe

2065
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,760
it or not. I just got it, really so when

2066
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,760
you gave it to me on the cruise, my friend Ron,

2067
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,039
the photographer, took it and he's been holding it ever since.

2068
01:48:12,039 --> 01:48:13,640
And I just saw him for the first time the

2069
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,760
of the day and he handed it to me. He goes,

2070
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,199
you told me you actually wanted this, and I'm like, yeah,

2071
01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,159
I do and I and I saw it was your side.

2072
01:48:20,199 --> 01:48:21,399
Been rocking it right on.

2073
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:22,079
Speaker 3: Thanks man.

2074
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 4: That's for the metal edged thing? Is he?

2075
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:30,239
Speaker 8: And I is he's he's been pushing me. He's my uh,

2076
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,520
he's my mickey in my corner, going Paul, you gotta

2077
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,720
do this, Paul, you gotta do this. It's izy and

2078
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,560
I have to have a few conversations we're gonna figure

2079
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:38,000
something out.

2080
01:48:38,199 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandonfield says, I.

2081
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,359
Speaker 4: Will say that. I will say this.

2082
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,199
Speaker 8: The it's not going to come back as a magazine

2083
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,159
right out of the gates. It's just there's no right now,

2084
01:48:49,159 --> 01:48:51,600
there's I don't have the time, I can't. I refuse

2085
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:55,239
to stop managing bands because I love it, so I don't.

2086
01:48:55,359 --> 01:48:56,960
It's not going to be a magazine out of the

2087
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,199
gates because I can't devote that much attention to something

2088
01:49:00,239 --> 01:49:02,640
that honestly, no one sells magazines anymore.

2089
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:03,520
Speaker 4: But we're gonna be.

2090
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,039
Speaker 8: Able to do The goal is to be able to

2091
01:49:05,039 --> 01:49:08,800
do like on demand back issues, on demand annuals, stuff

2092
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,239
like that. And then Izzy and I have been talking

2093
01:49:11,239 --> 01:49:14,840
about a few ideas to bring maybe a podcast something

2094
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,079
with metal. There's a couple of different varieties of podcasts

2095
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:20,760
we can do, but there's gonna be something happening I wanted.

2096
01:49:21,079 --> 01:49:23,880
My goal was to have a podcast up and running

2097
01:49:24,199 --> 01:49:26,039
about a month and a half ago, and I got

2098
01:49:26,039 --> 01:49:29,439
too big. A fell in my lap that I didn't

2099
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,199
expect to and I spent four months attached to Perry Ferrell.

2100
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,880
So that's literally all I did for four months. So

2101
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,359
I'm kind of four months behind now in COVID, but

2102
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:42,479
hopefully moving forward we'll get to something pretty quickly.

2103
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:47,119
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Brandon Field says, sure know something is tonight. You

2104
01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:50,119
Belonged to Me Part two, and that being said, is

2105
01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:53,560
still one of my favorite singers. Drums on the unplugged

2106
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:54,840
version made it even better.

2107
01:49:56,399 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah I would yeah, Eric Singer taking that up a

2108
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:04,680
notch from Anton fake, I guess yeah. Uh.

2109
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:10,279
Speaker 2: Scrolling through this okay, had that one. Scottie from Canada

2110
01:50:10,319 --> 01:50:12,720
says Dynasty is my first taste of Kiss. I was

2111
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,600
made for love. You always see him to play on

2112
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,640
the radios, went to and from the trailer during the summer. Hey,

2113
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,600
you grew up on a trailer too. Welcome to my world.

2114
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:28,239
Brother latch Emmer says, the Kiss universe is kind of diverse.

2115
01:50:28,319 --> 01:50:31,239
The fans come off as the fans come off as assholes.

2116
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,039
I say this because they all say my favorite song sucks,

2117
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:36,279
and no I'm.

2118
01:50:36,079 --> 01:50:37,600
Speaker 3: Not telling you what it is.

2119
01:50:42,119 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: That is actually a great point.

2120
01:50:46,119 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 7: Is that your favorite song sucks, dude, Dude, mine is

2121
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,000
what's best In general?

2122
01:50:52,039 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 8: I mean, how many people when you're a big, diehard

2123
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:56,359
fan of a band, how many people are like my favorite,

2124
01:50:56,359 --> 01:50:57,279
like the diehards.

2125
01:50:57,279 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 4: How many go my favorites the most commercial thing they

2126
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,239
had at Ride.

2127
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get that if you're a Van hale

2128
01:51:04,079 --> 01:51:05,960
and fan and jumps your favorite song or something.

2129
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,119
Speaker 8: It's like, no, I'm I'm a Queen's Reck fan and

2130
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:10,800
everyone's shocked because I have an operation mine crime tattoo.

2131
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,960
I'm like, okay, but my favorite Queen's record Promised Land,

2132
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:17,279
and no one will ever.

2133
01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 4: Tell you that. Like that's so, It's just that's.

2134
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 8: When you're when you're die hard, you just you know,

2135
01:51:23,079 --> 01:51:24,880
like Eddie said, I think I think it was Eddie

2136
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,800
someone else and I said, the burnout factor of I

2137
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,279
was made for loving you. It's just like I'll never

2138
01:51:29,319 --> 01:51:33,079
get tired of that song. But you don't hear it.

2139
01:51:33,239 --> 01:51:35,479
You don't hear it that often. Actually, it's not like

2140
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,159
rock and roll because you don't live in my house.

2141
01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:41,760
Because that's my go to kiss record. It's a great

2142
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,560
sounding record. It's a great sound.

2143
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, sonically it still sounds great. It's that song comes on.

2144
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,159
I mean, it still sounds great. A rowback for me.

2145
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:51,279
I just it takes me back to a place, you know,

2146
01:51:51,319 --> 01:51:52,079
And that's again I.

2147
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,159
Speaker 19: Think throws down that song too, So it's fantastic.

2148
01:51:55,159 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 4: It's the quickest, little, tiniest little soap duet.

2149
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:00,520
Speaker 1: You know. It's like and I'm like, wow, he just

2150
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,399
slays for that like one half of a bar.

2151
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 11: It's just him reminding you how fucking grad he actually is.

2152
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 10: Exactly right.

2153
01:52:10,319 --> 01:52:14,159
Speaker 4: Then she mastered the video for that song and uh

2154
01:52:14,279 --> 01:52:19,039
and and uh cleaned up the audio and picture on it. Universal,

2155
01:52:19,079 --> 01:52:21,840
which owns their catalog now, is going through all their

2156
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:26,319
artists old videos and doing doing bump ups to the

2157
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:31,039
quality and the color color corrections and making the audio.

2158
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: Sound a little better. And you can see him there online.

2159
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:37,319
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, Scott, he says, sorry, is it was

2160
01:52:37,359 --> 01:52:42,359
a vacation trailer Oh so you were rich? Wow?

2161
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he went from trailer park to rich.

2162
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah right right, all right, so.

2163
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 3: Hands and do you have hands in that hat?

2164
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.

2165
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 3: Oh my man.

2166
01:52:55,079 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 2: It's from the Land of sky Blue Waters.

2167
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,199
Speaker 3: But it's not I got you.

2168
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 2: It's to be a refreshing.

2169
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:06,520
Speaker 4: Your stimulus money in action ladies. And there it is.

2170
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,560
Speaker 10: And that was just for the hat.

2171
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Dude. I hand painted this myself, can you tell? And

2172
01:53:19,279 --> 01:53:24,039
so we got about fourteen minutes to dive into this

2173
01:53:24,119 --> 01:53:27,680
ace Freely Origins Volume.

2174
01:53:27,319 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 4: Two, about thirteen minutes more than I need.

2175
01:53:33,039 --> 01:53:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start off and say this, and not

2176
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:39,560
because I'm a fucking ace wonker apologist. I really enjoyed

2177
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,680
the record. I thought it was better than the first Origins.

2178
01:53:44,319 --> 01:53:48,039
I didn't like the Kinks cover, but I thought the dude,

2179
01:53:48,039 --> 01:53:50,960
the fucking Robin Xander doing thirty days and a whole

2180
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,359
fucking ruled. I love the version of she. I love

2181
01:53:55,399 --> 01:53:58,079
how we worked the live version into the studio version

2182
01:53:59,279 --> 01:54:03,359
right before the look at that that weird breakdown. I

2183
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,399
love he just he just made the ship his own,

2184
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,640
even though it was still pretty true to the originals.

2185
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,319
I dug it, I really dug it.

2186
01:54:15,159 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was a lot of fun, and we

2187
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,760
had some conversation about it earlier, doing stuff as like

2188
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,479
obvious as jumping jack flashes a little bit kind of like,

2189
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,279
but I think the fact that Leita's on it kind

2190
01:54:25,279 --> 01:54:27,640
of maybe go. It actually sounds like a like a

2191
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:29,800
Runaways track or something almost right.

2192
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,159
Speaker 2: But how cool would have how cool would have been

2193
01:54:32,279 --> 01:54:34,800
to have heard you I'm a bitch or do bitch?

2194
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting? I just for what it was, I thought

2195
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,520
it was pretty fun. I thought it sounds great. You know,

2196
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,640
it's like a singing good times bad times is something

2197
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:47,600
I never thought i'd hear.

2198
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, right, okay, right, interesting.

2199
01:54:50,279 --> 01:54:53,319
Speaker 2: Interesting, and he played his fucking ass off.

2200
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I again. I you go into these things.

2201
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,720
D's right, You go into these things. It's kind of

2202
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,680
like cover records kind of have to expect them to

2203
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,359
be something kind of a specialty, or not going into

2204
01:55:04,399 --> 01:55:07,520
it to hear like, you know, because it's not new

2205
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:08,279
original music.

2206
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 4: You know, you're kind of what you're getting it, what

2207
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,479
you're getting involved in. And I kind of went into

2208
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,319
it this sort of like it was fun, you know.

2209
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,600
I enjoyed it. I love the guy I love.

2210
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: I loved it. Who was all involved in it? I'm

2211
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,800
not being really Canadian and polite.

2212
01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 8: It was fine. I he did a good job on

2213
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,640
all the songs. I just listened to it. I listened

2214
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:31,960
to it and I went, Okay, that was fun. I

2215
01:55:32,039 --> 01:55:34,920
listened to another two times because I knew we were

2216
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,119
doing this. I'm never going to go back and listen

2217
01:55:37,159 --> 01:55:39,359
to a cover record. I mean, unless they do something

2218
01:55:39,399 --> 01:55:40,079
like and again.

2219
01:55:40,079 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 3: Unless they do something interesting with it.

2220
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,039
Speaker 8: I'm a big I'm a huge Queens REGs fan. Okay,

2221
01:55:44,079 --> 01:55:47,479
I love Queens. Reg they did their cover album and

2222
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,359
they did what I said Ace didn't do. They made

2223
01:55:50,399 --> 01:55:53,640
every song their own, and honestly, I still can't listen

2224
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,239
to it that many times because it's so it's so

2225
01:55:56,439 --> 01:56:00,279
just self indulgently Jeff making it Jeff's own that it's

2226
01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:02,720
annoying to me, and I'm just like, so, it's kind of.

2227
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 4: Just it's a cover record.

2228
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:06,119
Speaker 8: Remember a while, I'll go back to the Queens reck

2229
01:56:06,159 --> 01:56:08,520
going and listened just because I run here again what

2230
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,119
he did with the police or Pink Floyd or something.

2231
01:56:11,159 --> 01:56:13,079
But at the end of the day, I'm not going

2232
01:56:13,119 --> 01:56:14,479
I mean, if I want to hear Ace, I'm gonna

2233
01:56:14,479 --> 01:56:16,319
go listen to Ace. I'm not gonna listen to cover record.

2234
01:56:16,399 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard the original version of Gonna Get

2235
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,760
Close to You from Race Forward?

2236
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,159
Speaker 8: Yes, they had, well, the original meaning the one that

2237
01:56:23,319 --> 01:56:25,039
wasn't Queen's rake exactly.

2238
01:56:25,079 --> 01:56:29,279
Speaker 1: The girl that bell it's a Canadian artist named Lisa

2239
01:56:29,319 --> 01:56:31,920
bel Bello. Yeah, thank you, but no, it's very close

2240
01:56:32,039 --> 01:56:35,159
in a different sort of way, but it is very close.

2241
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 4: But when when Queens took.

2242
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,399
Speaker 1: That off and they were going like yeah, because it's

2243
01:56:38,439 --> 01:56:40,640
kind of like a Kate Bush kind of thing in Canada,

2244
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,000
and they did a really great job of that.

2245
01:56:42,039 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, now.

2246
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I was talking about I think the name of the

2247
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:45,880
album was Undercovers.

2248
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:46,439
Speaker 4: I remember that.

2249
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did like synchronicity and some weird shit they gave.

2250
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, And again it's just I love covers and I'm

2251
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:55,960
fighting out one of my bands.

2252
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:56,239
Speaker 4: Now.

2253
01:56:56,319 --> 01:57:00,199
Speaker 8: I'm fighting with them because to get I want covers

2254
01:57:00,239 --> 01:57:01,720
from them, and we're going.

2255
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:02,159
Speaker 4: Back and forth.

2256
01:57:02,199 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 8: But it's just like, I love covers, but I feel

2257
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,720
like put one on an album in EP with best

2258
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,039
like I just a full album of it.

2259
01:57:10,079 --> 01:57:12,479
Speaker 1: To me is just diver Down though, dude, that's a

2260
01:57:12,479 --> 01:57:13,199
long conversation.

2261
01:57:13,319 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 4: Diver Down boom, A long conversation for a short album.

2262
01:57:20,079 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, the conversation is longer than the record.

2263
01:57:23,239 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: It's an undeniably great record though, for what it is.

2264
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,199
Speaker 4: I agree with Paul about East's record. I mean I

2265
01:57:29,319 --> 01:57:32,439
said that about covers records in general. I mean they're

2266
01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:34,640
the type of things I listened to two or three times,

2267
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,760
and Okay, it's cool and I get what they did

2268
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:39,000
and it's cool to hear that person singing that song

2269
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:41,560
or this their spin on it. But It's never gonna

2270
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,119
be a go to record for me. It's never from

2271
01:57:44,119 --> 01:57:45,800
any artists. It's never gonna be the one that I

2272
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,239
go and grab and crank up and what have you.

2273
01:57:48,319 --> 01:57:50,720
So I love that Robin Xanders on it. I thought

2274
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,840
it was cool that he did a thing with Bruce Kulick,

2275
01:57:53,159 --> 01:57:54,159
the two of them one.

2276
01:57:56,039 --> 01:57:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2277
01:57:56,319 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 4: I love that that he used as his touring band

2278
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,159
to do that, that those guys are on there.

2279
01:58:02,319 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, which is not a song, So that was

2280
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:05,720
kind of cool that he did that.

2281
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, So there's there's definitely cool stuff.

2282
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,359
And look, Ace's voice, I think in the lot on

2283
01:58:12,479 --> 01:58:16,199
his recent solo records has been stronger than it's maybe

2284
01:58:16,279 --> 01:58:19,279
ever been, which is crazy. I think he's He'll be

2285
01:58:19,279 --> 01:58:21,399
the first to tell you he's not a great singer technically,

2286
01:58:21,439 --> 01:58:25,560
but for him vocally, he it sounds good and it's

2287
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,119
fun and you know, it's Ace. I mean, he's got

2288
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:31,079
such a strong character into what he does in his

2289
01:58:31,159 --> 01:58:33,680
personality that it's gonna come through on all that stuff.

2290
01:58:34,079 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

2291
01:58:35,199 --> 01:58:37,079
Speaker 3: I thought the Animal song was pretty cool.

2292
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 19: There's some weird choices of songs. Well, that was kind

2293
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,640
of my problem with the record. It's it's and like

2294
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,880
some of them are too safe, and then some of

2295
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,079
them are so out there that you're laughing that that doesn't.

2296
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 3: Make any sense at all.

2297
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 4: But what you know, I like the Mountain track. But

2298
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:58,840
you're right, Chad, it's like half Lola good Times, bad

2299
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:01,399
time stuff, you really know, Yeah, yeah, you know, really

2300
01:59:01,399 --> 01:59:04,880
well jump a Jack Flash and then half you know,

2301
01:59:05,159 --> 01:59:08,479
obscure songs Paul Revered, the Raiders, whatever. So I think

2302
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,319
that's probably a pretty smart idea to keep people interested

2303
01:59:11,399 --> 01:59:15,359
in that poor Reverer song. I didn't know at all, right,

2304
01:59:16,119 --> 01:59:18,720
but the Mountain thing I thought him doing, I was like,

2305
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,680
thank god, not another cover of Missisippi.

2306
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was badass. I really, I really

2307
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,279
actually did like the fucking we Got to Get out

2308
01:59:26,319 --> 01:59:28,039
of this place. I thought it was cool. That was

2309
01:59:28,079 --> 01:59:29,000
good because I love that.

2310
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: That's a great song.

2311
01:59:30,119 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 11: That one, to me, was the one that sounded most

2312
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,920
like he was making it his own, even though it

2313
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,840
was pretty close to the original, But it sounded it

2314
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,439
sounded like it like when as did do you you

2315
01:59:39,479 --> 01:59:42,439
know what I mean? Yeah, it sounded like the original

2316
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,640
kind of sort of, but he definitely made it his own.

2317
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:46,399
Speaker 3: That was one of the ones that I was like, yeah,

2318
01:59:46,439 --> 01:59:47,880
you know what, this is pretty fucking rap.

2319
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 4: I mean, its distinctive. His voice he's got.

2320
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:54,079
Speaker 8: There's some of the best vocalists, they don't necessarily have

2321
01:59:54,119 --> 01:59:56,920
the best singing voice. Ace has just such a distinctive

2322
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,279
style when he sings that he's going to inherently make

2323
02:00:00,359 --> 02:00:02,560
everything his own, and that's that's what made the album

2324
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:06,119
interesting to me. Yeah, he's a character. It's so, you know,

2325
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:08,239
like he's sort of like when we were talking about

2326
02:00:08,279 --> 02:00:10,199
those Kiss records. It's like those guys all figured out

2327
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:12,359
their characters, and although Ace is just being Ace, he's

2328
02:00:12,439 --> 02:00:14,279
kind of comes more from the school of you know,

2329
02:00:14,359 --> 02:00:16,560
I suppose Bob Dylan or Jimmy Hendrix, where they're not

2330
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:20,479
thought of his vocalists, but they they have such distinctive,

2331
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,920
distinctive thing and sometimes that's more important than being able

2332
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:26,680
to sing, you know, like all the right notes and

2333
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:27,399
all that kind of stuff.

2334
02:00:27,399 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 1: I think.

2335
02:00:30,439 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 2: Eddie, actually, Eddie, now that you bring up Keith Richards,

2336
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,159
when you were talking to Ace yesterday on the show,

2337
02:00:36,159 --> 02:00:39,560
he says, yeah, I hung out Keith Richards. Could you

2338
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:46,239
imagine that conversation and that night A Railey and Keith

2339
02:00:46,359 --> 02:00:50,399
Richards in the seventies together. Oh boy, I wish you

2340
02:00:50,439 --> 02:00:52,800
would have went there. That was like, oh my god,

2341
02:00:53,039 --> 02:00:54,640
you have to ask him.

2342
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,159
Speaker 4: I didn't even catch that. Actually, now that you're but

2343
02:00:59,239 --> 02:01:04,199
I will, I will say this. I will say this

2344
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:06,800
that I did say to him yesterday on the air,

2345
02:01:07,279 --> 02:01:09,439
which is kind of true and crazy if you think

2346
02:01:09,479 --> 02:01:13,760
about it. So Ace was always the lazy fuck up,

2347
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:17,560
won't do anything, won't turn into anything guy always painted

2348
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:20,640
by Gene and Paul is the guy that's uncreative, can't

2349
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,680
do stuff, can't get it together. Not uncreative, but you know, lazy,

2350
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:27,000
can't get it together, but not interested in producing things,

2351
02:01:27,079 --> 02:01:30,079
can't won't show up for stuff. He's the only guy

2352
02:01:30,159 --> 02:01:34,359
making new music and putting out new records from anybody

2353
02:01:34,439 --> 02:01:36,279
of any era of kiss. He's mad.

2354
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,119
Speaker 8: He's made more new music in like the last four

2355
02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:42,159
years then Gene and Paul have made combined in their career.

2356
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:46,319
Speaker 3: But the new Soul Station records coming.

2357
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 4: Breath speaking of covers records, and also, and this is

2358
02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:59,640
probably why he's not gonna like. He doesn't like me,

2359
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:02,239
but I don't care. You have a guy who has

2360
02:02:02,239 --> 02:02:07,439
clearly struggled tremendously vocally, but I'm going to tackle the

2361
02:02:07,439 --> 02:02:11,960
most difficult vocal stuff ever created. So as a result,

2362
02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:15,279
you get him dancing and scatting on the mic while

2363
02:02:15,319 --> 02:02:17,720
the people and the women in the back are the

2364
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:21,800
ones doing all the heavy lifting closely. That's what's going on. Yeah,

2365
02:02:22,159 --> 02:02:24,640
I mean, whatever, man, that's just passion and have fun.

2366
02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm very curious.

2367
02:02:26,439 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: I actually admire guys for doing something that off the wall.

2368
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:31,760
I'm gonna make a reggae record or something like that.

2369
02:02:33,039 --> 02:02:35,479
Speaker 2: It's like David Lee Roth wanting to sing Steelheart.

2370
02:02:37,399 --> 02:02:43,239
Speaker 3: You know I'm here, you don't you do not?

2371
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 4: All right, David Lee Roth trying to sing David ly Rod.

2372
02:02:50,079 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 2: Exactly again before we bounce U Laurie from Australia says

2373
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,119
unmasked for me, of course.

2374
02:02:58,079 --> 02:02:59,079
Speaker 1: Of course that's really.

2375
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

2376
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Bruce from Canada, hold on, we'll play the effect for

2377
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:10,359
you because is he Can you ask Eddie what he

2378
02:03:10,439 --> 02:03:13,319
thinks of the idea of Kk's priest. I know it's

2379
02:03:13,319 --> 02:03:14,720
off topic, but I'm wondering.

2380
02:03:16,479 --> 02:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting conversation.

2381
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 4: I think it's great that that Rippers singing. I love

2382
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:27,239
Les Banks is an amazing drummer, and I mean I'm

2383
02:03:27,279 --> 02:03:29,560
looking forward to it. We're looking forward to seeing what

2384
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,560
he comes up with. I love k K. I love him.

2385
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,560
He's a great guy. And if he wants to play

2386
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,680
again and they don't want to have him back in,

2387
02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:37,239
I just can't wait to see what he does.

2388
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:38,399
Speaker 1: Totally.

2389
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,000
Speaker 8: I agree that is love the fact that Ripper is

2390
02:03:41,039 --> 02:03:43,039
doing it. I think that's I think.

2391
02:03:43,239 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 3: I think it'll be great, honestly.

2392
02:03:45,279 --> 02:03:48,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you think about it, if you want

2393
02:03:48,159 --> 02:03:53,439
to get technical, Priest is currently constituted. Unfortunately, it is

2394
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:58,359
down to two members of the classic lineup. So the

2395
02:03:58,479 --> 02:04:04,119
disparity in terms of you know, classic members, if you will,

2396
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:09,720
Priest has obviously Ian and Rob. Kk's thing is gonna

2397
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,520
have Kk Ripper who did two studio records, Les Binks

2398
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,479
who did some classic records. So if you really obviously

2399
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:19,319
Rob is Rob and whenever you got the voice, you

2400
02:04:19,399 --> 02:04:24,800
got the voice. But you really it's not in terms

2401
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:29,079
of like validity by members, not that far off because

2402
02:04:29,399 --> 02:04:32,439
sadly walk Glenn's going through YEA, right, you want to.

2403
02:04:32,439 --> 02:04:35,399
Speaker 8: Do that, like yeah, kisses Kiss is more legitimate than

2404
02:04:36,039 --> 02:04:38,680
Judas Priest at this point because they've got fifty of

2405
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:42,279
their lineup and Priests have forty if you're.

2406
02:04:46,399 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 4: Yet, well, if you're gonna, Paul, if you're gonna look

2407
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,279
at that, what do you make of Queen's right down

2408
02:04:51,359 --> 02:04:54,159
to two guys versus Jeff Tate? No?

2409
02:04:54,319 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely does anybody think that Tate is going to

2410
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:04,000
re night with the guys that aren't in the band now?

2411
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:11,079
Speaker 1: No question, no, no, just let absolutely not.

2412
02:05:12,159 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 4: Is not coming back. And Scott No, I talked to

2413
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:19,319
Scott like a year ago, but I'm hearing some things

2414
02:05:19,319 --> 02:05:22,399
not great about you know, how Scott's doing, even though

2415
02:05:22,439 --> 02:05:25,199
he told me he was doing great. But I I

2416
02:05:25,239 --> 02:05:27,319
don't think. I don't know what's going on with Scott,

2417
02:05:27,359 --> 02:05:29,520
and I don't think de Garmo's coming back, So I

2418
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,640
don't see that happening. But that would be crazy if

2419
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:36,640
Kate did a band with DeGarmo and Scott right like,

2420
02:05:37,079 --> 02:05:38,279
so that's nuts.

2421
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,319
Speaker 8: I mean, the reality is based on my conversations with

2422
02:05:41,399 --> 02:05:46,039
Jeff and I Jeff, Chris isn't doing it, so it

2423
02:05:46,039 --> 02:05:48,399
doesn't matter. I mean it was literally like, yeah, the

2424
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:50,600
minute everything went down with Scott and Scott was out

2425
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,600
of Queen's Rag, the first conversation was, wouldn't it be

2426
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:55,279
great if it was Jeff I mean, Jeff and I

2427
02:05:55,319 --> 02:05:57,640
were talking not long after that and it was you

2428
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:01,560
know you, Chris and Scott, Jeff's there, de Garmo's not

2429
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:02,399
doing anything right now.

2430
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 4: He's just not doing it.

2431
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 8: And honestly, if he was to do something, I did

2432
02:06:07,039 --> 02:06:10,239
the last Queen's Reike interview with DeGarmo for the DVDs

2433
02:06:10,479 --> 02:06:12,560
with Jeff and Chris in the same room, and I

2434
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,199
could tell you if he was gonna do something, he's

2435
02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:16,800
not walking back into a shit show.

2436
02:06:17,079 --> 02:06:18,359
Speaker 10: And it's a good show.

2437
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he.

2438
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 8: Left because he wanted to get away from all that.

2439
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:23,560
He's not going to jump into it now. I mean,

2440
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:25,479
so it's it's a fun thing to talk about, but

2441
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:29,159
it'll never happen, right, And there's no need for Jeff

2442
02:06:29,239 --> 02:06:31,600
to bring Scott in other than to say screw you

2443
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:34,399
to the rest of the guys. And from a business perspective,

2444
02:06:35,239 --> 02:06:38,439
ultimately someday they will reunite because everybody does.

2445
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 4: And why why do the screw you?

2446
02:06:41,199 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 8: Jeff's not making any more money taking Scott into the

2447
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:45,880
band than he's making without Scott in the band, So

2448
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,800
what's the point in doing it. You're just putting the

2449
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:52,479
inevitable reunion off even further and creating more bad blood, right,

2450
02:06:52,479 --> 02:06:54,159
And I don't think Jeff wants to do that. It's

2451
02:06:54,159 --> 02:06:57,359
not even about reuniting. Jeff's just beyond all the bad

2452
02:06:57,439 --> 02:07:00,000
blood and he's he's at peace with everything, so there's

2453
02:07:00,039 --> 02:07:01,479
no point in doing that.

2454
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:04,119
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, it's ironic. You said you did

2455
02:07:04,159 --> 02:07:07,560
that last interview, But I I did the first interview

2456
02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:12,880
with them with with Todd as the official singer for

2457
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,920
Queen's Reke, and I introed them for the very first

2458
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:20,560
time as Todd as the official singer for Queen's Reke

2459
02:07:21,199 --> 02:07:22,239
at Halfway.

2460
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:23,359
Speaker 4: Jams, not Rising West.

2461
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was Queen's Reke. Yeah, exactly exactly,

2462
02:07:30,319 --> 02:07:32,560
but no, it was. It was after they won the

2463
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:36,159
one one lawsuit when they were able to use the

2464
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:40,279
name Queen's Reike, and their first gig was as Queen's

2465
02:07:40,279 --> 02:07:42,399
Reike with Todd was a Halfway Jam, and I introg

2466
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:43,479
Here's the thing.

2467
02:07:43,359 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 4: I saw them for the first time.

2468
02:07:45,159 --> 02:07:47,439
Speaker 8: Because of my history with Jeff and everything, I haven't

2469
02:07:47,479 --> 02:07:49,279
gone out of my way as well. I have history

2470
02:07:49,319 --> 02:07:51,520
with Queens Reke too, which prevented me. I'm in the

2471
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:54,159
same situation with the Queenske guys that Eddie is with

2472
02:07:54,199 --> 02:07:57,680
Paul Stanley. So it's like I saw them for the

2473
02:07:57,680 --> 02:07:59,560
first time because I was trapped on a ship they

2474
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:01,800
were playing on and I'm like, if they're playing, I'm

2475
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:02,640
gonna go see them.

2476
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 4: And they were great, And I.

2477
02:08:04,439 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 8: Walked up to every guy and told each guy individually

2478
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:09,000
how great I thought they were. With Todd, it's just

2479
02:08:09,039 --> 02:08:10,760
not the same. And that's you know, you run into

2480
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,199
that all the time. It's like, Todd does a great

2481
02:08:13,319 --> 02:08:18,159
job with that Stuff's doing a solo record. I'm dying

2482
02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:20,319
to hear it. I think it'll be great. I'm still

2483
02:08:20,319 --> 02:08:21,039
a Jeff guy.

2484
02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:25,039
Speaker 1: I am along for the day that they play together again,

2485
02:08:25,239 --> 02:08:25,600
I hope.

2486
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 2: Is that the only reason you're friends with Red Cup

2487
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:30,720
jeffs because he spells it like Jeff Tate.

2488
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 4: No. I met Jeff through Chris through Jericho.

2489
02:08:39,239 --> 02:08:48,079
Speaker 2: Yeahs, alright, you that's all right? Last last game bick

2490
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:51,880
jeffro jeffrow Lee Roth says David Lee Roth is eight

2491
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:54,760
more pussy than anyone here, and he's a legend. Fight me,

2492
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:56,479
not with swords.

2493
02:08:57,239 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 8: I'm not no one's arguing fighting any any names.

2494
02:09:01,239 --> 02:09:01,479
Speaker 4: Rot.

2495
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:05,199
Speaker 3: That's just right and criteria that is.

2496
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:09,359
Speaker 2: And lastly Laurie's he's in that trailer park for you

2497
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:15,159
is And lastly Laurie says solid set guys, kiss versus

2498
02:09:15,159 --> 02:09:17,760
Twist's sister fucking kiss kiss?

2499
02:09:18,279 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, kiss, I guess kiss well kiss from me obviously,

2500
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:23,520
but yeah, I mean.

2501
02:09:24,439 --> 02:09:27,399
Speaker 4: It's not even close. I mean Twist, it's like four

2502
02:09:27,479 --> 02:09:30,079
records and kisses like forty records.

2503
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

2504
02:09:32,079 --> 02:09:35,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you guys got anything to pimp before U before

2505
02:09:35,359 --> 02:09:37,079
we make a treat, like like like a tree and

2506
02:09:37,119 --> 02:09:37,720
get out of here.

2507
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:39,079
Speaker 9: Uh.

2508
02:09:39,319 --> 02:09:42,319
Speaker 3: I got new hot, I got new mix coming. Really,

2509
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:44,920
I got a mild I have a mild version coming.

2510
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh I like the sound that.

2511
02:09:48,119 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 3: We'll have the mild and the hot. And we got

2512
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:54,279
the Dry Rub Devil's Crown mix dot com go get.

2513
02:09:54,159 --> 02:09:57,319
Speaker 2: It, yep, yep. The the the mix was a big

2514
02:09:57,399 --> 02:09:57,840
hit up.

2515
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,279
Speaker 1: And I've been on a smoking kick lately. You have

2516
02:10:01,319 --> 02:10:02,119
a dry rub?

2517
02:10:02,439 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 2: Yes I have.

2518
02:10:03,039 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 3: I'll bring you one.

2519
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 8: We have to talk, yeah, because next time here at

2520
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:09,359
the Rainbow, I'll bring you one tomorrow.

2521
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:14,279
Speaker 2: Yes, what time?

2522
02:10:14,359 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2523
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,439
Speaker 4: I want to try that. Does the Rainbow open you guys?

2524
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 3: Yes? Patio and they took the parking lot of the roxy.

2525
02:10:21,439 --> 02:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Oh wow, parking lot.

2526
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,359
Speaker 8: So they put they put all seating where you would

2527
02:10:26,399 --> 02:10:28,359
pull in for valets, all seating now.

2528
02:10:28,359 --> 02:10:29,439
Speaker 4: And then they have the patios.

2529
02:10:29,439 --> 02:10:33,079
Speaker 8: They're not allowed to have indoors, but they have full

2530
02:10:33,079 --> 02:10:35,279
outdoor dining. You're not allowed to go to the bar,

2531
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:37,560
sit at a table and it has to be a

2532
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:38,319
waitress service.

2533
02:10:39,039 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 10: Yeah cool.

2534
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 4: So is Will djaying in the parking lot?

2535
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 8: No, Will is not djying right now. And I know

2536
02:10:47,039 --> 02:10:49,239
the parking lot just got extended through the end of

2537
02:10:49,279 --> 02:10:52,800
the year. So that doesn't mean at some point they

2538
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:55,359
might not allow people to eat inside, but it means

2539
02:10:55,399 --> 02:10:58,720
they are now able to serve outside through the end

2540
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:00,319
of the year because.

2541
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 4: There's different zoning.

2542
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:02,439
Speaker 1: You have to be zoned to do that, and they

2543
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:04,479
just the zoning's got extended.

2544
02:11:04,319 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 2: Right right, Todd, What do you got pimping?

2545
02:11:07,079 --> 02:11:07,399
Speaker 4: Really good?

2546
02:11:07,439 --> 02:11:10,039
Speaker 8: They do a really good job there. We've been we

2547
02:11:10,439 --> 02:11:13,239
go about once, we go about once a week. It's

2548
02:11:13,279 --> 02:11:14,359
just good to get out of the house.

2549
02:11:14,479 --> 02:11:19,199
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, and obviously tomorrow night what and obviously

2550
02:11:19,279 --> 02:11:19,880
tomorrow night.

2551
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 3: I guess if you're going tomorrow night, let me know.

2552
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:24,279
Speaker 8: I'll run you up some mix or some I was

2553
02:11:24,359 --> 02:11:27,000
joking about tomorrow night, and then my guess is.

2554
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,039
Speaker 1: Would be there sometime over the weekend or something, but.

2555
02:11:29,039 --> 02:11:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

2556
02:11:30,479 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: I think Rico went today. Actually, I think she was

2557
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:33,600
there for lunch with Amy.

2558
02:11:34,439 --> 02:11:37,399
Speaker 4: Nice you did from the other end of the house.

2559
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:39,720
But I'll let you know.

2560
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:42,079
Speaker 2: Chad Todd, what do you got? What do you got

2561
02:11:42,119 --> 02:11:42,479
to pimp?

2562
02:11:43,359 --> 02:11:45,159
Speaker 1: I got a new single out and it's sort of

2563
02:11:45,199 --> 02:11:47,760
apropos because it's from two guys from Ace Frayley's.

2564
02:11:47,359 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 4: Band at Star and Jeremy.

2565
02:11:50,279 --> 02:11:53,199
Speaker 1: Asbrock and I have a side project called Minefield and

2566
02:11:53,239 --> 02:11:57,159
we put out a single and you can find it

2567
02:11:57,199 --> 02:12:01,640
on YouTube. Fields right and Brandon Fields. I'm sorry. I

2568
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:03,359
was gonna bring him up. It's it's pretty much his

2569
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:06,800
thing and he uh. And then and then the Ace

2570
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:08,119
guy's got a hold of me and I was like,

2571
02:12:08,199 --> 02:12:10,840
sounds like fun because I'm sitting on the couch watching

2572
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:16,039
Sopranos for the tenth time or something, and it was like, what's.

2573
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 3: What you're doing?

2574
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 4: Ed? I just started doing that. I just started on

2575
02:12:19,039 --> 02:12:21,159
HBO Max with Season one all over again.

2576
02:12:21,199 --> 02:12:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a fun track.

2577
02:12:23,439 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the greatest Hey, Hey, who is the one guy?

2578
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,880
Don't know when that band Todd who is Brandon Fields.

2579
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,520
Speaker 1: He's a young guy. I swear he's like twenty four

2580
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:37,000
twenty five Jeremy. Jeremy calls me and he goes, look

2581
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:38,960
I got this. This this young guy. I know, he's

2582
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:42,520
really a go getter and great ideas. He's actually really

2583
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:45,640
killer guitar player. So he's got this thing, and and

2584
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:47,359
the next thing I know, it was up and running,

2585
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:49,439
like before I even got involved. And I was sort

2586
02:12:49,439 --> 02:12:51,119
of like, Okay, well who's playing bass on this? And

2587
02:12:51,159 --> 02:12:53,399
they're like not sure yet. I'll go, well, I guess

2588
02:12:53,439 --> 02:12:55,279
I'll play bass on it because I play bass with last,

2589
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,119
and then I sing a batch of the songs and

2590
02:12:58,159 --> 02:13:01,760
then it's it's really fun. It's it's it's been so much.

2591
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:03,600
It's been a blessing really, because it was a lot

2592
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,239
of like during that period where you're like, I guess

2593
02:13:06,239 --> 02:13:07,960
this is it. I guess this is what I do now.

2594
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:10,479
I don't play music. I just kind of like it's

2595
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:13,319
like early retirement without like a retirement package.

2596
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, retirement, yeah.

2597
02:13:16,399 --> 02:13:19,479
Speaker 4: Exactly, puttering around in the garden. Well I don't even

2598
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:19,760
do that.

2599
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:23,159
Speaker 1: So we're talking to a computer screen, exactly when can

2600
02:13:23,199 --> 02:13:25,600
we make this our career like on like eye Hollywood

2601
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:26,760
Squares back, yeah.

2602
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:27,840
Speaker 2: Rights, and.

2603
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:34,600
Speaker 4: I actually do they actually have made this my career.

2604
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:38,479
But don't let you see now because I actually do

2605
02:13:38,479 --> 02:13:39,359
do this for a living.

2606
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, I didn't know who Ruth

2607
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:43,520
Buzzy was or I didn't know what they had done.

2608
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,479
They just are always on like they were like just

2609
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,479
famous for being famous. I yes, I can't, can I

2610
02:13:48,479 --> 02:13:50,560
I could do this, I can talk, I can answer.

2611
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:53,399
Speaker 2: See. I always liked the match game because if you

2612
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:58,039
had had when you had an episode that had Charles Nelson, Riley,

2613
02:13:58,279 --> 02:14:02,600
Charles Russell, you knew you were in for a good

2614
02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:04,039
night exactly.

2615
02:14:04,319 --> 02:14:07,159
Speaker 4: Again, I didn't know what those guys background was.

2616
02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 10: They were just.

2617
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 4: So I don't think it matters in this context either.

2618
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Can I just do this now?

2619
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:13,520
Speaker 4: This is my right?

2620
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I'm just well trust trust me personally,

2621
02:14:17,199 --> 02:14:20,039
it doesn't pay.

2622
02:14:21,079 --> 02:14:24,119
Speaker 3: I think rock and Roll, Hollywood Squares, are you.

2623
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:30,359
Speaker 8: Cared for a lifetime of drinking hams exclusively? I didn't

2624
02:14:30,359 --> 02:14:36,680
even know they still made hams. But I've got what

2625
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,520
do I have? I think I mentioned earlier I did.

2626
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:40,960
It's finally I think today I got word that We're

2627
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:44,920
finally done completely. I've got I co wrote the book

2628
02:14:45,159 --> 02:14:48,600
in the Perry Farrell's upcoming box set with Perry, which

2629
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:52,119
was a huge undertaking that that kind of got me

2630
02:14:52,159 --> 02:14:54,920
through COVID because basically May through July it was just

2631
02:14:56,079 --> 02:14:57,159
Perry Farrell all the time.

2632
02:14:57,840 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 4: Now I'm working on in addition all my.

2633
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:02,439
Speaker 8: Management stuff, I'm working on, I'm a and ring a

2634
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:06,079
record project for a role playing game. As a huge

2635
02:15:06,079 --> 02:15:08,359
nerd who used to play Dungeons and Dragons as a kid,

2636
02:15:08,399 --> 02:15:11,039
this is a big deal. They're coming out. Somebody's coming

2637
02:15:11,039 --> 02:15:14,399
out with a Dungeons and Dragons metal inspired role playing

2638
02:15:14,439 --> 02:15:18,760
game called Gods of Metal Ragnarok. What I'm handling, Yeah,

2639
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,720
so it's I'm handling all the music for it. So

2640
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:27,479
I'm putting together a vinyl compilation. There's some awesome like Anthrax,

2641
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:29,600
Armored Saint. There's a bunch of really cool metal stuff

2642
02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:31,000
on it. I never heard before.

2643
02:15:31,199 --> 02:15:33,600
Speaker 1: I gotta let Danko Jones know about this. He will

2644
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:34,399
lose his mind.

2645
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 4: Really well, let's talk. Let's talk.

2646
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:37,640
Speaker 1: Then, I got like two or three slots left, and

2647
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:38,600
I want people.

2648
02:15:38,319 --> 02:15:40,640
Speaker 4: Who love D and D Oh. That's the easy guy

2649
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:41,039
right here.

2650
02:15:41,319 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 8: I've got an unheard Fozzy track. Actually back from the

2651
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:47,079
days when I A and our at Centry Media, they

2652
02:15:47,079 --> 02:15:50,439
were leftover Fozzy tracks and we're using one of those.

2653
02:15:50,479 --> 02:15:52,920
But it's like, yeah, we've got it's a cool thing.

2654
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:55,079
It's a good project that's going to be getting announced.

2655
02:15:55,640 --> 02:16:01,479
The Kickstarter campaign for that's gonna happen in in mid November.

2656
02:16:02,279 --> 02:16:05,479
Speaker 3: Start Kickstarter. So it's been well funded the Kickstarter.

2657
02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:07,960
Speaker 8: And one of the Kickstarter things, if you pay, if

2658
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:09,960
you pledge a certain amount of Kickstarter, you're gonna get

2659
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:12,600
the vinyl. It's gonna be any and then the vinyl

2660
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:15,439
case opens out into the playing board for the Dungeon Master.

2661
02:16:16,199 --> 02:16:19,720
Speaker 2: Well you mess why, Joe, I said, ooh, Kickstarter. So

2662
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:21,159
it's been well funded.

2663
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 4: In the gaming world.

2664
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm just giving a bust and balls kick Starter.

2665
02:16:26,159 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh, well, every time I

2666
02:16:32,239 --> 02:16:34,600
get a gig or something coming up as far as

2667
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,680
an appearance or something, it ultimately goes away a couple

2668
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,840
of weeks before it's supposed to happen, right, I mean

2669
02:16:40,879 --> 02:16:43,479
I had something in Dallas that or Houston that was

2670
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:49,040
moved three times so far. But anyway, every day Monday

2671
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:51,559
through Friday, two to four Eastern time, ten to midnight

2672
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:57,360
Eastern Serious Exam Volume one oh six and for people

2673
02:16:57,399 --> 02:17:01,600
that on Monday nights. For ever, I did a show

2674
02:17:01,639 --> 02:17:05,520
on hair Nation which was mostly unlike the Daily show

2675
02:17:05,559 --> 02:17:08,600
on Volume, which is almost all talk, that show was

2676
02:17:09,399 --> 02:17:13,360
music and talk. And ever since COVID, that show, by

2677
02:17:13,520 --> 02:17:15,799
necessity has had to be pre recorded, so it's really

2678
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:19,200
not been the show people knew. And I just found

2679
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,399
out like yesterday that that's gonna come back, and I'm

2680
02:17:21,399 --> 02:17:23,840
gonna be able to start doing that one live as

2681
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:27,239
well starting October fifth, so I'll be back to six

2682
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:31,200
live a week for Serius XM podcast every Thursday, the

2683
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:34,639
FM Show. So still pumping out eight radio shows or

2684
02:17:34,639 --> 02:17:38,559
eight broadcasts a week, six of them live, and waiting

2685
02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:40,040
for things to get back to normal so I can

2686
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:42,399
come back to LA and hang with you maniacs at

2687
02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:44,799
the Rainbow and start doing the monthly shows and get

2688
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:47,120
to where Todd is because I can't. I was watching

2689
02:17:47,159 --> 02:17:49,760
Monday Night Football last night and I was dying because

2690
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:52,000
they were showing all the Vegas stuff and Vegas is

2691
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:54,600
my favorite spot, and I'm like, I was just jones

2692
02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:56,799
in to be out there with Zach and Brent and

2693
02:17:56,840 --> 02:17:59,559
Todd and ronniey Man c So and hanging it there.

2694
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:01,440
I was like, I gotta getut there with my boys.

2695
02:18:01,959 --> 02:18:03,719
So as soon as things get normal, I want to

2696
02:18:03,719 --> 02:18:06,799
do some shows from Vegas too. But yeah, there's a

2697
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:08,879
there's a bunch of cool stuff in the works. But

2698
02:18:09,239 --> 02:18:10,639
it's one of those things where you're like, you know,

2699
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:12,600
every day you get a call about something and then

2700
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:15,000
you don't hear about it again, and it's all that

2701
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:16,760
so you don't even bank on it. You wait to

2702
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:19,079
see how it plays out. But it's all good and

2703
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:23,120
having fun doing the radio stuff and Todd's that song,

2704
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:24,159
Todd is really good.

2705
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:25,079
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2706
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:27,319
Speaker 4: So you want to come out and plug it or whatever,

2707
02:18:27,399 --> 02:18:29,200
We'll set something up next week. I'll hit you up.

2708
02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:31,319
Let's do it for sure.

2709
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:32,360
Speaker 3: Make sure you bring your.

2710
02:18:32,319 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 4: Twelve inch.

2711
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:39,079
Speaker 2: Todd me, you and Chad should do something. We'll get

2712
02:18:39,079 --> 02:18:43,120
fucking homed on it too. Yeah, sounds good to do

2713
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,120
something off un masked or something stupid like that.

2714
02:18:45,159 --> 02:18:46,879
Speaker 1: There you go, now you're talking.

2715
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:49,559
Speaker 4: Here's what we gotta do this. I want to do

2716
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:52,799
this exercise when I get back to coming in la

2717
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:55,360
every month like I used to and working from the

2718
02:18:55,399 --> 02:18:58,879
studio there I want to put together because I started

2719
02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:02,440
in with this one show. I had John five and

2720
02:19:02,479 --> 02:19:04,680
Brian Tishy in the studio at the same time, and

2721
02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:08,479
we just went down this rabbit hole of And I

2722
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,879
don't know if you've done this before, Izy, but one

2723
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:13,040
of these days I'm gonna do it, either on my

2724
02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:16,680
show with some group of people, but take the four

2725
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:20,120
Kiss solo albums and create one great ten track.

2726
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did that. We did that about two

2727
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:22,920
months ago.

2728
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:24,799
Speaker 4: Oh you did it? You guys did it here?

2729
02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2730
02:19:25,079 --> 02:19:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and what doesn't mean it was correct? Just

2731
02:19:28,159 --> 02:19:28,559
so you know.

2732
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:31,639
Speaker 3: Mine was?

2733
02:19:32,479 --> 02:19:34,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2734
02:19:34,399 --> 02:19:36,639
Speaker 1: Good point, good point? Yeah, yeah, Actually I would love

2735
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:38,920
to hear that on another show.

2736
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:43,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'll send you guys a it was. I

2737
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:46,079
did it with ya. I did it with Ron Keel,

2738
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:52,520
hell Sparks, Oh and Ran Bell Chaer who ed just

2739
02:19:52,559 --> 02:19:56,520
did that that country version of Cherry Pie?

2740
02:19:57,520 --> 02:19:58,920
Speaker 10: Wow? Okay, cool Jack?

2741
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:02,079
Speaker 4: Did you all agree? You all agree on one final?

2742
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:07,520
Speaker 2: No, we just all gave our own We all made

2743
02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:12,079
our own like record, but we also did it where well,

2744
02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:15,280
since they're doing this as a band and not just

2745
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:21,239
selecting tracks, so like, for instance, I put Peter and

2746
02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:25,879
Ron did this too, either or Ron or Hal did

2747
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:29,200
this too. I put Peter on speedback to my baby,

2748
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,000
I'll lead vocals. So we swapped it up a little

2749
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:35,280
bit because they're doing it as a band, not as okay,

2750
02:20:35,319 --> 02:20:37,200
we'll just take this track from this, this track from

2751
02:20:37,239 --> 02:20:39,200
this to make a record. Now. We did it as

2752
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:44,879
if they recorded this as a band.

2753
02:20:50,799 --> 02:20:52,120
Speaker 4: Like I couldn't even think.

2754
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh, yes you could, yes you could, yes you could.

2755
02:20:57,799 --> 02:20:59,559
But yeah, if you ever and if you ever do that,

2756
02:20:59,600 --> 02:21:00,399
I want to part of it.

2757
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:04,319
Speaker 4: Eddie's doing eight radio shows a week. You're drinking eight

2758
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:10,719
cams a night. That's what that eighteen?

2759
02:21:10,879 --> 02:21:11,840
Speaker 3: But who's counting?

2760
02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:15,239
Speaker 2: There's only two up here and one in my hand.

2761
02:21:15,799 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 1: There you go, that's three. There you go.

2762
02:21:20,079 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 4: Well, it's great seeing all you guys here too, you too.

2763
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:26,040
Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Just hold on, we'll say goodbye. Off

2764
02:21:26,079 --> 02:21:29,319
the air. Let me hit the Black Diamond outra music.

2765
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:36,920
Next week, I think i'll have a guest uh the

2766
02:21:36,959 --> 02:21:39,799
following week, maybe we'll do with another van hailing summit.

2767
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:42,760
And I know for sure next month's Kiss Summit is

2768
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:45,680
gonna be all female except for me, even though I

2769
02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:49,719
do have tits. So make sure you guys, check out

2770
02:21:49,799 --> 02:21:52,959
last week's show with Carrie Steven's Eric Car's ex girlfriend ed.

2771
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:54,600
You need to have her on the show. Her book

2772
02:21:54,639 --> 02:21:58,920
is fucking phenomenal, really read good. You haven't read it,

2773
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:03,319
I'll get you, guys into um. Chad Stewart Faster Pussycat

2774
02:22:03,399 --> 02:22:07,520
Moto Christ buy that fucking Devil's Crown stuff. Todd Kurns.

2775
02:22:07,639 --> 02:22:09,719
Check out everything that he has going on by the

2776
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:14,840
new single. Paul Gargano, stay tuned. That's all I gotta say.

2777
02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:18,520
And of course the Great the Wizard Eddie Trunk and uh,

2778
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:23,000
make sure you check out on that Zappa's show, Rocktails.

2779
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:24,799
It is on Exit is on volume.

2780
02:22:24,799 --> 02:22:28,040
Speaker 4: Man, it's on volume. I think he does one a month.

2781
02:22:28,280 --> 02:22:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

2782
02:22:29,239 --> 02:22:31,360
Speaker 4: See that's the difference. When you have Zappa money, you

2783
02:22:31,399 --> 02:22:35,440
work long time a month, work eight times a week.

2784
02:22:36,639 --> 02:22:38,840
Speaker 2: Love it. Speaking of Zappa money, if you guys enjoy

2785
02:22:38,879 --> 02:22:42,479
what I do. PayPal is Hazy Presley at yahoo dot

2786
02:22:42,559 --> 02:22:45,879
com cash af dollars signed Dizzy Presley and of course

2787
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:50,920
the real Izzy Presley at fucking the Other Gimmick Venmo

2788
02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:53,239
or whatever the fuck it is. That's what it is.

2789
02:22:53,639 --> 02:22:54,360
Social media.

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Speaker 8: It's because that's how badly, you butcher when you ask, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I've had like three shots of jacket, three hams.

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Give me a fucking break in, like you know, an

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hour and fifteen minutes. What can I say? Anyways, spend

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another fucking podcast. See you guys next week. I do

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love you all, and don't forget what I can. Talent

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I make for Jesus Christ, I make up for in