WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.319 Thursday afternoon, eleven minutes past the hour of two o'clock. 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:07.000 It is a beautiful, gorgeous May day. 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.800 As we have turned our calendars to May, it is 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.640 May first, it is spring. It's about sixty eight degrees 5 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:16.440 in sunny and clear here in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah, 6 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.399 right outside of our Broadway Media studios, and as it 7 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.120 is every single day, it is good to have you 8 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:26.920 along for the ride. Well, okay, all right, right out 9 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:28.679 of the gates. If you're watching on YouTube, I got 10 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.920 you know what. Scott's a little aggressive with the mic. 11 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:31.519 I didn't know this. 12 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:34.439 Have you ever us there's one person on YouTube you've 13 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:35.960 produced a show with Scott before? 14 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:36.200 Right? 15 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.000 Yes? So does he? Is he jacking the mic around 16 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.679 a lot? I don't know now he is clear it 17 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:41.439 looks like it though. 18 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.560 Yeah, all right, Scott, let's go ahead and not do 19 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:44.560 whatever you're doing with the mic. 20 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.200 I'm gonna screw this back in real time. Porter. Hello, 21 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.159 how are you? I'm doing well? Spencer? How are you? 22 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:49.560 I'm good? 23 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:56.479 I uh, you know you always if anything with the 24 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.759 mic is like off a little bit, it does send you. 25 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.640 Yeah. No, I'm I'm a creature of habit I admittedly understandable. 26 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:05.959 Yeah, but I enjoyed that this is the this is 27 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.079 the opening segment of the show. And yes, I'm keeping 28 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.079 the YouTube on you so that folks can. 29 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.359 See we are good. We are good. 30 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.359 So in uh, in a past life, I worked for 31 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.439 a radio station where the show before me featured a 32 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.159 host that both spit his luncheon into the microphone and 33 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:23.680 also jacked his mic around. 34 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:24.879 He actually is still over there. 35 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:27.159 He still does Middays shut out, and so I had 36 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.560 to be very cognizant of the microphone set up. But 37 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.319 Bill is not a microphone mess and neither Sean. So 38 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.519 now I know that Scott is, so we'll be very cognizant. 39 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.359 But the mic is good now. So you know what, Actually, 40 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:40.040 now that I think about it, whenever I do cross 41 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:41.879 talk with Scott, he is sitting back like this and 42 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:42.560 he's jacking the. 43 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.680 Micro He's relaxed, he's kind of just doing his thing. Yeah, 44 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:47.280 we might have to get him like one of those 45 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.439 if you ever watched like a just a podcast, like 46 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.480 a low prop yes, low production podcast. Just give him 47 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:53.319 a mic with the cable. 48 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.200 Yeah, well, we're professionals in the afternoon space. We don't 49 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:57.599 mess around with the mics. We like to do a 50 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.920 good show anyway. Hello, how are you Thursday? Microphone situation 51 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:03.719 is good, it is screwed back in and we're good 52 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:06.480 to go. A lot to get to on this Thursday afternoon. 53 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.879 The easy thing to do, and I'm not going to 54 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.800 do it entirely, but we are going to get into it. 55 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.800 The easy thing to do is talk about the twenty 56 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.439 twenty one Utah Jazz featuring Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert 57 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.960 and Mike Conley and Nikiel Alexander Walker and Jordan Clarkson 58 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.719 and George Niang and Derek Favors and Boy and Bogdanovich 59 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.919 and roycell Ney, et cetera, et cetera, and then talk 60 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.919 about the decision that the new front office made after 61 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.840 Dennis Lindsay decided he did not want to work for 62 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.520 the new ownership, and Quinn Snyder decided he did not 63 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.360 want to work for the new ownership, and Danny Ainge 64 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.639 is brought in and Ryan Smith buys the team and 65 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.840 they elect to trade a superstar player in his prime 66 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:55.039 in Donovan Mitchell, a legitimate Hall of Famer defensive superstar, 67 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.280 and Rudy Gobert still in his prime, and then later 68 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.560 on get rid of Bogdanovich and my Don Lee and 69 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.240 Royce O'Neil and the like and George Niang, and we're 70 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.039 watching all of these players play at a very high 71 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.000 level in the postseason. 72 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:09.159 The easy thing to do. 73 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.400 Is to say it here today, the day after Rudy 74 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.400 Gobert maybe had his best career postseason game and criticized 75 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:18.680 the decision making process, And we are going to do 76 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:21.599 some of that, but we're gonna be fair about it, 77 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:24.360 and we're going to talk about exactly how that all 78 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.639 went down, why it all went down, and why three 79 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:31.080 years later and entering the fourth year, they may or 80 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.639 may not have done the right thing. We're gonna dig 81 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.800 into it from a bunch of different angles. Really happy 82 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.800 for Rudy last night. Rudy is a guy who I 83 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.599 cheer for twenty seven points twenty four rebounds. 84 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:42.520 So we're gonna do some NBA playoffs on the show 85 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:42.919 today and. 86 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.840 Get you ready for some good action tonight as the 87 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.080 New York Knicks, we'll try to close out the Detroit 88 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:52.120 Pistons in Detroit, Michigan Little Caesars Arena. That's a five 89 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:56.800 thirty tip time locally on TNT and then when that 90 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.639 game concludes, the Denver Nuggets will try to eliminate the 91 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.879 LA cl Whippers at the into a Dome in Englewood, California. 92 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.479 So we have some playoff basketball to get to on 93 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.319 the show today. We have some jazz fans on the 94 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:08.919 show today. 95 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:09.560 We have some. 96 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:13.919 College football and college basketball transfer portal news locally and 97 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.720 nationally on the show today, and we'll get you ready 98 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.959 for a busy sports weekend that includes a road trip 99 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.800 for real Salt Lake as they are going to take 100 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.160 on Vancouver today or not today on Saturday. Vancouver, as 101 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.879 of now is the best team in the West and 102 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:28.959 one of the best teams. 103 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:29.639 In all of MLS. 104 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.040 So we'll get you ready for a weekend full of 105 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.199 NBA basketball, little soccer from the local side of things, 106 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.800 and we'll do some college and pro football in addition 107 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.399 to that. All right, good guest list, it's been a 108 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.920 while since we've welcomed in the Voice. That's right, the 109 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:49.160 voice himself, Bill Riley, stops by today on a Thursday afternoon. 110 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.639 We're going to welcome in the Voice of the Youth. 111 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.160 So we'll do some Utah football, some Utah Basketball is 112 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.000 Ryle's an hour in studio with the editor of the 113 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.399 sports section of the Solid Tribune Fake News, Aaron Falk, 114 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.360 will be in studio, that liberal, left leaning fake news outlet. 115 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.639 We'll bring it to Aaron today to talk about a 116 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.680 bunch of different things on the program, and then we'll. 117 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:11.519 Do a little sports court. 118 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.959 But before that, the head coach over Al Salt Lake 119 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.639 is Pablo Masterjoinni. He had a chance to spend a 120 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.439 little time with my guy Pobs and in San Diego 121 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.040 as Ursel was able to get all three points last week. 122 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:24.680 Look heat to a busy week end with Vancouver as 123 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.959 the road continues for rsl So, Bill Riley, Aaron Falk, 124 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.920 Pablo Masjoini, a little sports court with our friends from 125 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.720 Handy in Handy. No Alan Handy on the show today. 126 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.399 But Garon, Preston and me Spence Check. Its all of you, 127 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.560 the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson. All right, 128 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:39.879 I'm gonna give you first crack at this. 129 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:40.360 Okay. 130 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.720 The easy thing to do today, Porter is to say 131 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.360 Rudy's awesome, Donovan's awesome, Mike Conley hitting dagger shot after 132 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.839 dagger shot. Then there are the bit pieces like Roys O'Neil, Poem, Bogdanovich, 133 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:55.759 George Nyang. And in a city like Salt Lake where 134 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.000 it's hard to get a collection of talent like that 135 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:01.480 to play together and win games, the easy thing to 136 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.040 do is how in the hell you just decided to 137 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.000 break it down brick by breaking That's the easy thing 138 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:06.240 to do. 139 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.920 What's the right thing to do. I'm gonna get it 140 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:08.319 first track. 141 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.279 That is the easy thing to do. And listen, part 142 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.480 of it's true. Rudy is awesome, Donovan Mitchell is awesome. 143 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.279 Part of that group that Utah had together was obviously awesome. 144 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:22.560 They were the first place team in the West, They 145 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.120 broke three point shooting records. They I think they won 146 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.279 the most amount of games over the course of like 147 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.759 a four game span in the NBA. Right, this is 148 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.279 a true thing. We can acknowledge that while also understanding timing, 149 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:43.800 roster construction, salary caps, personal relationships and the like. Right, 150 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.759 all of those things played into the fact that Utah 151 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.160 did reach a juncture point right where they had to 152 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:56.879 move and they had to move in a real substantial fashion. Now, 153 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.160 did they have to move off both guys? Did they 154 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.360 have to move off of all all of the bit pieces. 155 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:05.600 You know, I'm not so sure we will know the 156 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.680 answer to that still in four or five years. But 157 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.120 let's just rewind right. Say you run it back for 158 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:17.399 a couple of years. Well, then you do have probably 159 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:22.560 a contending window maybe for the conference, for the Western Conference, 160 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.639 but it last spents about a year and a half 161 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.519 and then going into what would have been next off season, 162 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.120 you're looking at extensions for Rudy Gobert. You're looking at 163 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.279 a roster that is really in a point where you 164 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.839 have no versatility, you have no optionality. 165 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:40.879 You have. 166 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.920 Close to fifty percent of your salary cap allotted to 167 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:50.480 a star center who, yes, last night, did what we 168 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.519 haven't seen him do in his career. And what again, 169 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.160 no one in the NBA has ever had a twenty 170 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:02.120 five point, twenty rebound, eighty percent field goal shooting game 171 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.759 in an elimination match, no one in an NBA history 172 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.759 until Rudy Gobert last night. So we can acknowledge all 173 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.560 of that while also acknowledging that the Jazz were in 174 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.680 a place partly due to folks in their front office 175 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.879 roster things that they I think kind of messed up 176 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:22.560 on a little bit some signings that they didn't necessarily 177 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.639 have to make, and still understand that the Jazz had 178 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:29.160 to move, did they have to move in the fashion 179 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.000 that they did, which is pretty much a complete reset. 180 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:35.480 I'm not sure what if Rudy Gobert's on this roster 181 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.120 Donovan's not. What if Donovan's on this roster and Rudy's not. 182 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:42.799 Those are things that we can examine. But as of today, Spence, 183 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.679 the Jazz have an opportunity to get the number one pick. 184 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.320 They have the most roster optionality in the league. They 185 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.519 have a window in front of them where they can 186 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:58.679 build their window with Donovan, with Rudy, with that core, 187 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.200 it was closing. It doesn't matter what you think of 188 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.519 what they're doing now. It was closing based on the relationships, 189 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:10.120 the behind the scenes stuff. And yes, awesome to see 190 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.279 them performing well, but I don't think it necessarily means 191 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:19.399 that the Jazz were wrong, and it doesn't necessarily mean 192 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.200 that these other teams are going to go on and 193 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.039 win an NBA title. 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So last night Minnesota 223 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.759 beats the Lakers one O three to ninety six, and 224 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.240 more importantly, beats the Lakers in the series four games 225 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:37.600 to one. 226 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.240 So a couple things here. 227 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.919 I think JJ Reddick is really looking very bad today 228 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:44.639 for a number of different reasons. First of all, the 229 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.000 way you handle the series number one, the way you 230 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.159 coach the series number two, acting like an absolute clown 231 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.879 and a baby during his press conference, acting defensive, dismissing questions, 232 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.000 getting up and walking out like he's pat Riley or 233 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.639 Phil Jackson. This is your first time as a coach, period. 234 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:05.000 The only experience you have as a coach is coaching 235 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.080 your ten year old and now you're the coach of 236 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.559 the Lakers. Okay, so you're not beyond reproach, buddy, you're 237 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:16.039 not above reproach. He got his ass kicked by Chris Finch. 238 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.480 He got out coach start to finish, and he has 239 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:21.080 the nerve to blame it on the roster construction. He 240 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.519 has the nerve to get defensive with reporters. Once again, 241 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.879 he was out coached last night. Now, when the Luka 242 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.039 trade went down, we talked about it on the show. 243 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:31.799 A lot of people wondering, does this mean the Lakers 244 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.360 are the best team in the NBA? Absolutely not. Does 245 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.080 this mean the Lakers were championship contenders this year? No, 246 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.879 I mean I never believe that. And it's probably time 247 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.240 to admit that Lebron James is old. He is forty 248 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.240 years old. This is a twenty second season. In the 249 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.440 fourth quarter of this series, Lebron was atrocious. He did 250 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.919 not score in the fourth quarter of Game four, and 251 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.120 had three points in the fourth quarter of Game five 252 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:58.360 and got absolutely beat defensively left and right. Okay, now 253 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:00.919 we're gonna do the song and Dan and Lebron's the 254 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.559 Lebron Song and dance now where he has a player option, 255 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.799 and that's already started where he's like, I've got to 256 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:07.720 have a conversation with myself and he's going to hold 257 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:08.720 the Lakers hostage. 258 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:10.720 He's gonna come back and play one more year. 259 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.080 But at this point it's probably safe to say that 260 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.960 in his twenty second season, he is not the guy 261 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.480 that you can rely upon to make miracles happen, as 262 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.480 he's done throughout the course of his crip. That's why 263 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:24.639 you bring in a Luka Dacic. Here's the problem, Okay. 264 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.279 And I'm not saying the Nico Harrison can take a 265 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.159 victory lap today. I still do not make that trade. 266 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.720 No matter what, you do, not trade a twenty four 267 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.759 year old, twenty five year old generational superstar who's also 268 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:40.039 a global superstar entering his prime the year after he 269 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.759 took you to the finals. But Minnesota and Chris Finch 270 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.559 made a calculated effort to put Luka Doncic in every 271 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.799 defensive action they could last night, and it worked. Aunt 272 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:51.279 didn't have a great shooting game, but he beat Luca 273 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.679 every time. Luca was the primary defender. And it wasn't 274 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.960 just In, it was Julius Randall. Every time Julius Randall 275 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.759 found Luka Donciic on him, he went at him and 276 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.919 it tired Luca out. Luca looked tired in the fourth quarter. Yes, 277 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.399 he heard his back. He was sick in Game three. 278 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.399 But if you're going to have these two players and Look, 279 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.000 make no mistake, any roster constructor in the NBA would 280 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.879 want Lebron James and Luka Doncic on their roster. You 281 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.679 have to supplement their weaknesses with strengths on the other 282 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.559 portions and parts of your roster construction, which they have 283 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.559 not done. So JJ Riddick last night overthinks it. And 284 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.320 I'm not a big Jackson Hayes guy, but at least 285 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.120 Jackson Hayes has a little bit of size that he 286 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.159 can provide some pushback. They bring Maxi Kleiba off ice, 287 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.679 who hasn't played since March and hasn't practiced with the 288 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.000 Lakers once, and he was not ready to play at all. 289 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.600 I thought Jared Vanderbilt, who spent some time here with 290 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.279 the Jazz, gave them some decent minutes. And for all 291 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.960 the conversation about what Rudy did last night, and look, 292 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.600 I always cheer for Rudy. 293 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.279 I will always cheer for Rudy. 294 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.919 Rudy Gobert impacts winning in a way that most players, 295 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:58.919 certainly in the league do not, and most fans that 296 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.600 watch basketball full don't understand. Rudy was committed to the 297 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.759 Utah Jazz. He was committed to the city he did 298 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.200 not want to leave. He still maintains a residence here. 299 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:12.080 And you know the juxtaposition between Gobert and Mitchell was 300 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:16.039 Donovan surrounded by his powerful agency. Did you ever find 301 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.200 it odd that every time Donovan was out and about 302 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.759 in public doing something that was pretty cool, it was 303 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:22.240 public knowledge. 304 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:24.480 Oh, he's got a Fourth of July party? Why is 305 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:25.080 that in the paper? 306 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.200 Oh, Donovan Mitchell stumbles upon a car accident and helps 307 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.440 out the Why is that in the paper? 308 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.720 You want to know? Lie? Because it was leaked. 309 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.639 Every time Donovan was doing something in public, his agency 310 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.679 made sure there were cameras on the scene to make 311 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:38.759 Donovan look better. 312 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:40.120 Rudy went about his. 313 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.000 Business behind the scenes, helping people out without the fanfare 314 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:43.840 of the public attention. 315 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.200 Because that's not who Rudy is. 316 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:47.639 Okay, So if you're looking to take a side between 317 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.679 the Rudy and Mitchell stuff, it's Rudy all the way. 318 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.399 At least, I'm team Rudy all the way I always 319 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.600 have been. I was thrilled for him last night to 320 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.440 shut people up, and I always I always get a 321 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.799 kick out of how quiet the social media converse turns 322 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.080 into when Gobert has a great game because all the 323 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:07.039 Rudy haters they go and hide, and the Shacks of 324 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.159 the world and the Bill Simmons of the world and 325 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.159 our friend Ryan Rossillo get people like that who hate Gobert. 326 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:14.960 They're eating a ton of crow today and I love that, 327 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:17.759 and I was happy for Rudy. But we also have 328 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.639 to acknowledge that Rudy was catching lobbs over Gabe Vincent, 329 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.879 who is Porter's height. Okay, we have to acknowledge that 330 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.120 Rudy was catching lobbs over Dorian Finney Smith and Austin Reeves, 331 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.759 who are sixty six and sixty seven. Okay, So the 332 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.320 Lakers with a calculator risk, and in the past against Gobert, 333 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:37.759 this has worked at times. The Lakers aren't necessarily a 334 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.120 small roster, but they just don't have centers, Okay, Like 335 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.759 Dorian Phinney Smith is sixty seven, Rudy is six nine. 336 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.679 Lebron of course, is six' eight and built like a, 337 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.840 tank which makes it odd That dante Diam vincenzo can 338 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.600 knock him over and he has to sit down for 339 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.960 thirty minutes to catch his. Breath luke is a big, 340 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.679 Boy Austin reeves is a big. Boy vandos six nine, 341 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:59.039 Right so they've got a roster of big. Wings they 342 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.039 just don't have, centers which is why they tried to 343 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.039 trade For Mark williams Before mark failed as physical and, 344 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:05.519 Yes Mark williams would have made a. 345 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:08.639 Difference, Sorry, shack can we Get shack? Off the? 346 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.759 Dais by the, Way shack is a, legend but he 347 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.960 never says anything of any. VALUE i Thought chuck handled 348 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.039 it well last. NIGHT i Thought kenny handled it well last. 349 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.159 Night But shaq is just this, old angry big that 350 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.879 won't give anybody any. Credit And rudy deserved a lot 351 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:24.279 of credit last night Because minnesota shot seven of forty 352 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:24.840 seven from. 353 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.159 Three that is fourteen point nine. 354 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:31.000 Percent, Okay So dante Di vincenzo two of, Twelve nikhil 355 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.919 Alex Xander walker two of. Nine aunt never fully got going, 356 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.799 offensively but he did so many other things that were so. 357 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:39.799 Good he had eleven, boards he had eight, assists he 358 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.039 had three, Steals he was engaged on. Defense this was 359 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.120 The Rudy Go bear, game and because it was against The, 360 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:49.639 lakers the basketball world was watching and he was. Dominant 361 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.320 he had nine offensive, rebounds which is the most In 362 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.399 Minnesota timberwolves, history tied Actually Kevin. Garnett he had twenty 363 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.879 four overall. Boards he had twenty seven, Points he was 364 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.960 twelve to fifteen from the Flor he had nine dunks 365 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.440 and dominated the. Paint two block, shots four or five others, 366 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:10.799 affected AND Jj reddick showed his inexperience and refused to 367 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:14.759 do anything to, adjust like you do have options on 368 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.640 the bench to at least provide a little pushback For. Gobert, 369 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.279 Okay but again, today the easy thing to, do and 370 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.599 we'll get into more of this, later is looking back 371 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:29.759 on the final season Of Quinn snyder's. Tenure, Here Donovan, Mitchell, 372 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:34.599 royce O'Neil, Boam, Bogdanovich Rudy, Gobert Mike, conley who hit 373 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.960 two dagger threes and had two big time defensive plays last, 374 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.759 Night Joe, ingles who of course is not even playing. 375 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.200 Anymore Jordan clarkson's still, Here George niang who's continuing to 376 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.640 play well in THE, nba and then there's some other 377 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.640 bit pieces and most of them are. 378 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:49.000 Not in the league. 379 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.119 Anymore but that's your eight or nine n. Rotation And 380 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.599 Danny ainge And Justin zannik and the new ownership group 381 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.079 decided they were going to break that group down brick 382 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.519 by brick in the name of a long game, rebuild 383 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.680 and as of, today it looks like a very idiotic. Decision, 384 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.480 Okay so, LOOK i know that we're supposed to, say, 385 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.839 Hey tome will tell they've got draft picks and assets 386 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.000 and clean, books all. Right, well from a sports talk radio, 387 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.720 Standpoint from a media, STANDPOINT i cannot analyze the twenty 388 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.759 twenty Nine. JAZZ i don't know what they look. LIKE 389 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.400 i can only analyze The jazz that are in front of. 390 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.559 Us and right, now this rebuild process has not bread 391 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.640 anything that you guys should be excited. About that's just 392 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.200 the bottom. Line it has been mediocre basketball at. Best 393 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.240 it has been underwhelming at. Best which of the young 394 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:37.960 players are you guys really excited. About i'll ask you 395 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.119 you excited About Kante. George i'm not even sure that 396 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.319 he's AN nba. Player Isaiah callier Breaks John stockton's rookie record. Assists, 397 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.839 okay he shoots twenty five percent from. Three Kyle philipowski 398 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.720 has shown some. Things, Okay so your best pick has 399 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:53.039 been the thirty second Pick Taylor. Hendrix feel bad for the. 400 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:54.960 Kid hope he gets, healthy and hope he evolves and 401 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.759 starts to play. BETTER i still think he's got measurables 402 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:00.240 and a lot of things to be excited about Out 403 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:05.279 but Watching gobert dominate last, night Watching mitchell evolve into 404 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.519 this calm presence and leader for The, cavs a guy 405 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.599 that's more comfortable in a role where the usage isn't as. 406 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.319 High he's not playing as much hero ball and his 407 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.960 numbers are down a little, bit but his production overall is. 408 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.839 Up he's engaged on the defensive. 409 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.119 End he will be first Team ALL nba at the 410 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.359 age of twenty, six twenty seven years. Old, like watching 411 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.839 all of these guys play so well in the postseason 412 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.000 has to bring up a conversation as to what exactly 413 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:31.880 the front office was. 414 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.000 Thinking, now AS i, referenced we will be fair. 415 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.720 Today And i'll just say, this if you are looking 416 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.119 for a, scapegoat if you are looking for the one 417 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.480 person to blame as to why that really exciting five 418 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.319 year run Of jazz basketball came to an, end it's 419 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.319 Not Ryan smith to. Blame it's Not Danny ames to. 420 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:53.200 Blame it's Not Justin xanig to. Blame it's Not Dennis. 421 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:55.640 Lindsay it's Not Quinn. Snyder it's Not Rudy. Gobert it's 422 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.960 Not Bom. Bogdanovich it's Not Mike. Conley it's Not roy. 423 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:02.000 O'Neil it's Not Joe, ingles it's Not george And. Yangle 424 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.279 who's the one name THAT i haven't said into this 425 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:06.599 microphone just, Yet Porter. 426 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:08.519 Jpchung it comes. 427 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.359 Down To John. Paul it Was John paul's. Fault It's, donovan. 428 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.039 Man it just is. Okay and there are things that 429 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.559 happened behind the scenes that, Honestly i'll never say into 430 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:20.599 this microphone out of respect for information THAT i received from. 431 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:22.759 People there are things THAT i know that went down 432 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:24.559 With donovan and his camp behind the scenes THAT i 433 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.000 have respect for, People i'll never say to this. Microphone 434 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:29.240 but if you're looking for a, scapegoat if you're looking 435 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.240 for somebody to blame as to why all that did go, 436 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.480 down it's a kid that's playing great ball In cleveland 437 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.839 on this. Show this song means only one, thing one, 438 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.079 thing and one thing only to tryumph for a return 439 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:47.839 of the voice of The utes, Himself Bill riley on 440 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:49.759 A thursday afternoon, ROUSE i got to tell you how to, 441 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.759 buddy last time you were, on reach out and, say 442 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.200 when we play this bump to introduce, you it actually 443 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:57.799 makes them very sad because. 444 00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:59.359 It makes a miss your. SHOW i thought you might 445 00:20:59.400 --> 00:20:59.720 want to hear. 446 00:20:59.759 --> 00:20:59.839 That. 447 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.359 Well that was nice of him to, say how you, doing? 448 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.960 Man So i'm doing. Great how are you? 449 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.000 Doing i'm, Good i'm, Good i'm. Good. 450 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.240 Yeah when we had you on last and this is 451 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.759 how we kind of bumped you, in he reached out 452 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.039 emotionally and, said you missed you on the mid days. 453 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:16.559 Man so, YEAH i figured you'd like to know. 454 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.960 That that's that's people come up and say that from 455 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.000 time to. TIME i, was you, know it's really nice 456 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.400 when they say, that AND i appreciate. 457 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:25.640 It you. 458 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.440 Know it's just that that song WHEN i hear, it 459 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.759 WHEN i comes up on the on the old rotation On, 460 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.440 spotify it takes you back to the radio show. Too 461 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.759 SO i tell, you, buddy, thanks AND i HOPE i 462 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:39.000 can fill fill the gaps a little bit coming on 463 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:40.119 with you and coming on with Ses. 464 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.240 Sean it really is such a great. Bump there's no 465 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:43.880 doubt about, that all, Right, Bill, right out of the. 466 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:45.839 Gates let me bring you into the topic we started 467 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.279 the show, with because we'll do mostly youth with. You 468 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.920 obviously that's the gig these, days but for a number 469 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.519 of years you did a show that covered everything in the, 470 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:57.440 market Including Utah. Jazz and as you Watch donovan settle 471 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:00.680 into this, evolved mature, role he's going to be first 472 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.640 Team ALL mba and he might even get SOME mvp, 473 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.240 votes he won't win. It and Then rudy has his 474 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:09.240 really potentially best postseason statement game in front of the 475 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.920 world last night against The, Lakers conley's hitting dagger. Threes 476 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.079 then they're the big pieces that are still having good, 477 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.759 years Like niang And bogdanovich and O'Neil and. Such what 478 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:21.480 sort of thoughts do you have about the decision that 479 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.799 the front office made to break that team down in 480 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:25.559 the name of what we've seen over the past three, 481 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.680 years which is, inspiring absolutely. 482 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:31.720 NOBODY i think it looks worse and worse the further 483 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:35.039 we get from expence and the better That donovan. Plays 484 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:38.559 and you Know, rudy you, Know rudy isn't going twenty 485 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:40.880 seven and twenty four every, night but he is still 486 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.279 a very good piece to a. TEAM i think it 487 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.839 looks bad AND i think it's a bit of A 488 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:49.799 i hate to be too, harsh BUT i think it's 489 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.480 an organizational failure for not being able to figure out 490 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.359 how to make it work and put the right pieces 491 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.160 around those. Guys those are. Two one is a TRAN 492 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:01.319 i think a lot of people thought What donovan was, 493 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:04.599 here we had seen the, plateau that he was what he. 494 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.799 Was that's not the. Case he has elevated his game 495 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.559 even further In cleveland And cleveland an, organization it really 496 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.119 had no success in the last twenty five or thirty 497 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.720 years outside of The lebron, years and, frankly to be, 498 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:20.359 honest they didn't really do a great job of placing 499 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.319 talent Around Lebron. James they have found a way to 500 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.799 build an organization Around Donovan. MITCHELL i JUST i think 501 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.359 it looks worse and. Worse As i've said to you 502 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.480 on this show, Before i'm still not quite, sure outside 503 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:35.079 of hoping that you get the number one pick In Cooper, 504 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.279 flag what the plan. Is AND i do think that 505 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.559 you know you've got to you, know when you've got star, 506 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.319 players they don't have to be best. Friends but somebody figured. 507 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.279 Out adults in the room figure it, out figure out 508 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:47.720 how to make it. Work AND i don't think The jazz. 509 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:49.680 Did And i'm not sure if you're going to have 510 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.559 An ALL nba defensive, guy a first Team ALL nba, 511 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.119 guy and some good pieces like they've had they had 512 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.440 there here anytime in the near. Future SO i just 513 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:01.440 think it looks worse and worse the further we get from. 514 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:02.559 It you feel the, Same, YEAH i. 515 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:03.039 DO i. 516 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.440 Do and you, know even at the, time and look 517 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.680 to be, Fair Don evan behind the scenes really was 518 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.599 causing issues to the point WHERE i think they had 519 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:13.519 to do what they had to do with. 520 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:14.759 Him but if. 521 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.319 You just kind of draw a little bit of a parallel, 522 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.440 here if you say that they do The mitchell deal 523 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:24.039 but hang on To rudy who wanted to stay. Here you, 524 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:26.200 know you bring in lowry, marketing and you bring in 525 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.480 a bevy of draft assets that you get From. Cleveland 526 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.640 and at the, TIME i think it Was ohioboji who 527 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.480 actually played well For toronto this. YEAR i think there's 528 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.279 a world that exit that would have, existed and who 529 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.559 knows what it looks, Like and you, know ultimately this is, 530 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.000 hypothetical but it's what makes sports radio. FUN i think 531 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:43.839 there was a world that you could have moved forward 532 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.119 in a different way as opposed to breaking everything down 533 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:48.119 in the name of again in the past three, years 534 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:49.240 which has just been a road to. 535 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.720 Nowhere, yeah and, again those were, guys AND i know 536 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.519 people will, say, well you did it, once you can 537 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:58.759 do it. Again that's hard to. Do and maybe they 538 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.319 maybe lightning did strike twice for them With stockton And 539 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.359 malone and Then rudy And. Donovan but we've not seen 540 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.480 anything really over the last three. Years and, yeah you 541 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.519 Acquired lowry marking, in but there's got to be part 542 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.920 Of lowry market. In that feels like he's wasting away 543 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.839 some of his best years of basketball playing for a 544 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.119 team going. Nowhere and how long is it Before lowry 545 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.440 market and decides he doesn't want to be part of 546 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:28.599 this rebuild. Anymore So, YEAH i just, AGAIN i want 547 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:32.119 that franchise to have. Success those were fun years AND 548 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.200 i know you told me a lot about, it And 549 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.720 i'd talk to other people that Yet donovan was problematic 550 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.799 behind the. Scenes but find a. Way and if you 551 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:41.680 can't find a, WAY i don't know that you had 552 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:43.960 to get rid of. BOTH i, mean because Clearly minnesota's 553 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.200 found a role For rudy and obviously they've Got Anthony Anthony, 554 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:50.920 edwards which is transformational To BUT i, JUST i JUST 555 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:53.440 i look at it AND i, SAY i don't know 556 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.640 when The jazz are going to be competitive to the 557 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.599 degree they were competitive when they Had gobert And mitchell 558 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:00.960 here and as you, Said conley and. 559 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.960 Others, yeah, yeah in three straight years with no spring, 560 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.799 basketball and spring basketball so. Fun playoff basketball when it's 561 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.640 In utah so. Fun but we'll move on, Now, BILL i, 562 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.839 wonder you, KNOW i Thought junior would be, drafted held 563 00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.440 out some hope For, karne but happy For Caleb. 564 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:17.279 LONER i, mean what a. 565 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.400 Story but your thoughts on the only you being drafted 566 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.160 this year Being Caleb loner and obviously we'll get into 567 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.440 some other players who have found some landing, spots but 568 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.160 not a very active draft cycle For utah, football what 569 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:30.400 are your? 570 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:32.920 Thoughts, YEAH i, MEAN i think it was just one 571 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:35.880 of those off years where you had some guys that, 572 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.599 were you, know third day guys or free agent, guys 573 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.519 and that's just how it. Was if you, know you 574 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.920 play the game forward next, year there's a Chance utah 575 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:46.200 has two guys in the Top i've seen a lot 576 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.680 way too, early But i've seen the two tackles Is 577 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.400 spencerfano And Caleb lomu both mocked in the top fifteen 578 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.559 or twenty. Picks SO i just think it was one 579 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.039 of those years where you didn't have a lot of 580 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:01.000 guys that were top end. Guys but the good news, 581 00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.359 is you, KNOW i think those guys are all good football. 582 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:08.559 Players i'd be shocked If Junior tafuna and Karennie, reid 583 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.400 and you, know even a guy Like zemiah von because 584 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.240 he's just such a good, athlete they don't end up 585 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.240 ON nfl. Rosters and once you end up on AN nfl, 586 00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:18.319 roster you know you make your way forward. There BUT 587 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.839 i think those guys are good football. PLAYERS i just 588 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.559 think it was one of those one of those off 589 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:23.480 years where they just didn't have it well. 590 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.440 In one of the other dynamics. 591 00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.960 HERE i can remember When Trevor riley was drafted by 592 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.480 My New York. JETS i think he was a seventh, 593 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.279 rounder AND i sent trevit text, like, hey congrats, man 594 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.480 you got, drafted and of, course in True Trevor riley, 595 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.359 fashion he sends me an expletive laiden response about how 596 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.200 pist he was that he didn't get to choose where 597 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.519 he wanted to. Sign so if you're not going to 598 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.799 be you, know first four rounds or, whatever maybe A 599 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.839 connor o tool gets to choose that he goes To 600 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:49.680 seattle And junior with The texans or what have. 601 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:51.880 You so maybe all these players would have. 602 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.680 Preferred not to be drafted late so they can decide 603 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.119 to choose which landing spot they actually ultimately go. 604 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.680 With, yeah you'll Get just a few years, Ago Brittan 605 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.599 covey didn't get. Drafted we all Loved. Covey oh he'll 606 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.279 be somebody who'll. Pick, well they. Didn't but what. Happened 607 00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.640 he lands with The Philadelphia, eagles has A Super bowl, 608 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.880 ring has been a really good special teams per former for. 609 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.440 Them so you're absolutely, right those guys get to pick that. Location, 610 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.519 because to be, honest you, know when you're a six 611 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:17.880 or seventh round, pick there's not a lot of guaranteed money, 612 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.559 anyway and if you're a priority free, agent they're going 613 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:22.559 to give you some of that money. Too SO i 614 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.720 think at the end of the, day it's going to 615 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.359 work out pretty well for those guys being able to 616 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:26.079 pick and choose their own. 617 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.440 Spots, so of, course the massive storyline coming out of 618 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.160 the draft was the fall and slide Of Shador sanders 619 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.160 and you had a chance to call some Of shador's, 620 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.279 games and you, know, ANECDOTALLY i told the story Of 621 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.440 big Twelve Media day Where sean AND i were on 622 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.240 radio row and interviewing coaches and players without much, fanfare 623 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.160 and then double doors. Open six cameras are Following, Shiloh 624 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.119 shador And dion around and we had a chance to Interview. 625 00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.519 Shiloh they didn't let us Interview, shador but of course 626 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:57.480 the circus that follows them around is. Undeniable and, LOOK 627 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.000 i always find it fascinating ryles like the the chasm 628 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.359 that exists between talent evaluators that work for teams and 629 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.480 leagues and talent evaluators that work for media. Outlets And 630 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.359 i'm not saying media members don't work hard and do 631 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:09.960 the best they can? 632 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.960 Analyze is this as? Simple can we be. 633 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.640 As reductive AS nfl talent evaluators did not Evaluate shaudor 634 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:18.519 as highly as maybe some of the media guys. 635 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.920 DID i think that's exactly what it. Is spence and 636 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.240 then when You're i'm not sure that he was a 637 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.160 fifth round, talent but he was a second or third day. 638 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.559 Talent and then when you have everything that went along with, 639 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.400 HIM i think that some teams don't want to bring 640 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.920 in all that went With Shador sanders for a guy 641 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.960 that's going to be a backup, quarterback and you don't 642 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.279 want to bring that circus to. TEN i had a 643 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.599 chance to interview him the year before At pack twelve media. 644 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.920 Day he And Travis hunter sat down, together And shadour 645 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.359 couldn't have been any more rude than he was looking 646 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.440 at His he was literally scrolling through his phone alive 647 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.319 on the radio during the. Interview Travis hunter was a really, 648 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.839 nice friendly, kid and you know it was kind of 649 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:05.200 his first time through doing any of that. Stuff shador was, disinterested, 650 00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.799 dismissive and got up to leave before the interview was. 651 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.359 Over it was last Question travis was answering. It he 652 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.759 got up and kind of wandered. Off so that was 653 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.519 my one in person experience with, him AND i know 654 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.000 other people have had that same. EXPERIENCE i think he 655 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.480 was a really good college. Quarterback it was really hard 656 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.680 to judge him because his offensive line was so awful over, 657 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.480 there and it was a little bit of an unconventional, 658 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:31.160 offense so it was kind of him improvising. THINGS i, 659 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.720 know he's a, competitor he's a really tough. Kid he's 660 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.200 got good football. Instincts so you, know he's now going 661 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:39.599 to do what a lot of people have to. Do 662 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.079 he's got to go prove himself and if he. Could you, 663 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.039 know the thing with THE nfl is, man they don't. 664 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.359 Care you go out and if you can, play you could, 665 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.640 play you'll find a spot on the, team and if you, 666 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.240 can't they'll say thanks for coming, in. Goodbye so we'll 667 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.680 see this. FALL i, mean it's a tough situation because 668 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:58.160 you've got two veterans in whether The flaco and Pick, 669 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.519 it and then they Drafted Dylan gabriel in the third, 670 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.079 round and you, know there's only so many reps to go, 671 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.680 around even in fall camp and things like. That so 672 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.000 it'll be really interesting to see how that whole thing 673 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:10.559 plays out In. 674 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.880 Cleveland So Spring Football forever twenty two GAME i was 675 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.640 down on the, sidelines boots on the, ground, grinding and 676 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.599 you were up in your beautiful air conditioning studio calling the. 677 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.240 Game SO i didn't get a chance to come say, 678 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.599 Hello but what from your bird's eye, view just some 679 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.000 takeaways times for a few tough fans that did not 680 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.440 have a chance to see the. Action what were your 681 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:32.839 takeaways from The forever twenty two. 682 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.519 Game, WELL i thought Damp pierre did a lot of 683 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.440 the same things in the game situation that we saw 684 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.559 him do all spring. Long he's a. TALENT i was 685 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.599 actually surprised he played as long as he. DID i 686 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.160 know the quarterbacks weren't, live but that did surprise me 687 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.319 a little bit because we have seen non contact injuries 688 00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.759 in spring games. Before BUT i thought he was. Terrific 689 00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.200 you know that it's hard to say with the defense 690 00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.920 because they have to run at So Vanilla Morgan scalley 691 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.880 not able to blitz and scheme a bunch of stuff. 692 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.240 Up BUT i think you can see athleticism, flash AND 693 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.680 i thought that The, carvallo the young wide receiver who 694 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.160 took that screen to the house or down inside the 695 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.400 five yard, line showed some. FLASHES i think the running 696 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.880 backs all looked really good in that game. Too we 697 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.160 didn't see a single one of the starters on the offensive, 698 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.599 line so it's hard to it's hard to judge, that 699 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.160 But i'll tell you. What the guy THAT i noticed 700 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.599 in practice this, spring AND i thought he had a 701 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.799 good game during the spring game Was Bird, fickland the 702 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.240 left handed freshman, quarterback the kid out Of. OKLAHOMA i 703 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.119 thought the ball really left his hand. NICE i thought 704 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.960 he moved around well, too for a kid that probably 705 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.160 should have been at his senior prom that weekend and 706 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.200 not playing football in the spring. GAME i thought he 707 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.079 looked really good. Too so you, know the best thing 708 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:51.960 was nobody got hurt and they got out of it. 709 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.440 Clean AND i think they're going to be really. GOOD 710 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.119 i Think i'm really interested to see this. SPRING i 711 00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.680 think they need to add a couple of wide, receivers you, 712 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.759 know And beck was pretty clear about, that so it 713 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:05.599 Was Kyle. Whittingham but outside of, THAT i thought it 714 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.240 was ABOUT i thought it was a pretty clean. GAME 715 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.720 i just kind of looked for guys at flash athletically 716 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:11.599 spence and make a few. Plays AND i think they 717 00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:13.119 had a few of those Guys Hunter andrews. 718 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.920 Too, yeah and you, Know, bill they were. HITTING i, 719 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:17.279 mean you, know down on the. 720 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.559 SIDELINE i was, again boots on the, ground grind you 721 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:23.480 no big. DEAL i was surprised at how live the action. 722 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.599 Was AND i know they held Out lander and SO 723 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.240 i think there were fifteen or sixteen starters that did sit. 724 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.559 Out but were you surprised at the physicality that you 725 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:32.599 saw or was that something you were. 726 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.519 Expecting, well that was WHAT i was. 727 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.240 Expecting they can't be physical with the, quarterbacks but, man 728 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.240 they could be physical with everybody. Else i'll tell you 729 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.680 another guy that really jumped out this, spring and he 730 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.480 actually made a couple of plays in the game With Jackson, 731 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.519 benny the kid that played a little bit last year 732 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.720 on special teams From olympus form the walk. On he's 733 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.200 going to be really. Good he's built like a, linebacker 734 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.480 but he's going to play safety in. CORNER i thought 735 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:55.880 he was really good and he had a big hit 736 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.240 in that game. Too so, no it doesn't surprise me 737 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.079 that they were physical everywhere but with the. Quarterback because 738 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.759 if you're going to put some shackles On scaley and 739 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.799 say you can't be exotic and you can't do a 740 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.880 lot of, things he's gonna be physical where he. Can 741 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:11.880 so that didn't surprise. 742 00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.639 Me you referenced the wide receiver group and as you 743 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.559 said both Coach beck and coach would have talked about. 744 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.840 It Zach Williams zacharias last year known As zach this 745 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.519 year lands AT sc and he had a couple of 746 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.280 really nice plays in the spring. Game when the spring 747 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.199 game was, OVER i asked a couple of the, coaches 748 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:33.159 Including jason And, morgan are you guys expecting and, look 749 00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.039 we should be very clear that kind of the rhythm 750 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.599 of this thing over the past four years or, so 751 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.400 since the transfer portal became a, reality and you, KNOW 752 00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.440 byu LOSES I, Harson taggart And keel And marion right 753 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.280 after their spring session. Ends usually springball and spring game. 754 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.039 Happens you have exit interviews and then players. Leave it's 755 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.079 not a, surprise BUT i think there was some surprise 756 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.639 That zach decided to. Leave what was your response to that, Story. 757 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.599 YEAH i. WAS i was surprised to simply because he. 758 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.079 Was he was clearly the best wide receiver all spring. 759 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.840 Long you mentioned plinking some plays in the spring, game 760 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.000 and you, know wide receiver won in a program Like 761 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.800 utah where they're going to clearly throw the ball. More this, 762 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.480 YEAR i thought he was in a pretty good. Spot 763 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.119 BUT i think what you've. Learned What i've, learned especially 764 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.360 over the last couple of, years is don't be surprised 765 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.440 by anything when it comes to the transfer. Portal and 766 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.480 for him to have hit it so quickly but then 767 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.440 he landed pretty, quickly tells you there was probably some 768 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.199 stuff that was going on behind the. Scenes, SHOCKER i, 769 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.360 know to a lot of. People but for him to, 770 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.800 have you, know immediately after the spring, game made that 771 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.599 decision and then landed pretty, quickly he probably tells you 772 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.599 there were some other. Decisions so you just have to let. 773 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.719 Me you don't know what's. COMING i don't think the 774 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.079 coaches probably, expected BUT i think you have to expect 775 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.480 some of that. Stuff and now you pivot and try 776 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.760 and you, know figure out who your new wide receiver 777 00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.199 one is going to, be whether you bring him in 778 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.440 here in the spring, portal or is somebody that's already 779 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:01.679 on your. 780 00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:05.519 Team so the internet is full of folks with mental 781 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.039 health issues throwing their feces at each. Other SO i 782 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.960 don't necessarily program my show off of. It but you, 783 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.199 reference you, know things that are clearly happening behind the. 784 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.280 Scenes now here's the, issue so you can, say, WELL, 785 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.320 byu they are tampering with our players OR usc here's the, Problem, 786 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.360 like there are no rules against, it and so everybody 787 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:26.960 should be doing. It if it's not against the, rules 788 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.599 you're going to be doing. It, now The house FIRST 789 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.639 ncaa settlement might bring some, clarity and, look you work 790 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.639 for the, school so be careful and do what you 791 00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.519 got to. Do but is there a feel up there 792 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.880 that The utah players are being tampered? WITH i, guess 793 00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.360 for lack of a better, term BY byu and other. 794 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.000 Schools, WELL i. 795 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.559 Don't, WELL i think tampering's happening Everywhere spence and there 796 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.840 are actually rules against. It you're not supposed to reach 797 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.440 out unless the if the kid declares for the, portal 798 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.880 that's where the communication is supposed to. BEGIN i don't 799 00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.719 think that that's necessarily the case across intercollegiate, athletics but 800 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.519 that's that's the case. Now with The house, settlement it's 801 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.480 supposed to put guardrails on. It there's supposed to be 802 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.800 a third party that will be. Monitoring we'll see if 803 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.920 that happens or, not but as of right, NOW i 804 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.559 think it's probably happening all over college. ATHLETICS i think 805 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:18.639 it probably has been for a number of, years BUT 806 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:24.079 i think, NOW i think because THE ncaa has kind 807 00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.320 of has kind of removed itself in a lot of, 808 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.960 WAYS i think a lot of people feel emboldened to 809 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.000 do this. Stuff SO i don't know who's doing, it 810 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.880 BUT i mean it's it's clearly happening around collegiate. 811 00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.519 Athletics there's a report from two four seven The utah 812 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.599 is hosting a cow wide receiver Name Tobias merriweather for 813 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:46.280 a visit. Today any any insight as to the plans 814 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.079 THAT utah has didn't maybe try to restock that wide receiver. 815 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.920 ROOM i just know that they're they're according to my 816 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.559 conversations With Jason, beck we actually had him on during the, 817 00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.559 broadcast and he said that they would be active in 818 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.000 the in the transfer portal looking for some help at wide. 819 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:05.480 Receivers so anybody that it doesn't surprise me at all 820 00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.639 that they're bringing some guys. In and again THIS i don't. 821 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.480 Know you, know there's a lot of guys in the. 822 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.920 Spring they're they're probably not as, plentiful the big play 823 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.159 guys as you would have in the, fall but there's 824 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.760 plenty of talented guys out. There AND i used this 825 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.440 example a. Lot you don't have to find them for 826 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.519 the big. PROGRAMS i, mean look at the guy that 827 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:26.559 was taking over the weekend in THE Nfl, draft The 828 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:31.199 Iowa state wide Receiver Jayden. HIGGINS i believe he played 829 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.920 his first two years of college football At Eastern kentucky 830 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.599 and then he you, Know Iowa state found and brought 831 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.480 him in and he became a you, know first Team 832 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.920 All big twelve second round draft. Pick so there's so 833 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.320 many guys and so many schools out there THAT i 834 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.559 have no doubt that they're going to bring a lot 835 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.280 of guys. In AND i you, KNOW i THINK i 836 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.280 don't know what the magic number. Is my guess would 837 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.199 be they'd probably like to have one or two guys 838 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.400 that they could they could get to add to their. 839 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.039 Numbers and, obviously with the loss Of Zacharias, williams we 840 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.239 ought to fill that spot as. Well SO i don't 841 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.800 know anything about any of the guys they brought, in. 842 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.559 Though try and Analyze big twelve football this season In 843 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.400 may On may first as an exercise and. Futility But 844 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.159 i'll just go off The vegas lines right. Now you 845 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:16.480 can get odds For Arizona, State Kansas, state And Texas 846 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.440 tech at eight point five. Wins so those are the 847 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.559 three teams That vegas is telling us as the best 848 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.599 chance to win the most. GAMES i, MEAN i could 849 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:26.840 go to some blog and tell you what they, think 850 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.639 BUT i don't. Know In, may and then right behind 851 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.320 them IS byu And utah AND i was stayed at 852 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.000 seven point. Five does that kind of jive with where 853 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.320 your head is at right now generally, speaking how this 854 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.199 conference might play. 855 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:44.199 Out that seems, LIKE i, mean that's the over, under you, 856 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.360 know you take the over the Under i'm. Getting, Yeah, 857 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.119 yeah that seems like a pretty low number for a 858 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.599 lot of those. Schools they're basically saying they see the 859 00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.559 winner of The Big twelve having roughly in the neighborhood 860 00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:00.039 of nine, wins which may be the. CASE i, mean this, 861 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.199 conference we used to joke about THE pac twelve cannibalizing. 862 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.280 ITSELF i would say The big twelve could probably do 863 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:12.119 that as. Well, YEAH i haven't looked close enough at, it, 864 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.320 because like you, said It's may. FIRST i figured i'd 865 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:16.519 dig in on it a little bit after the rosters 866 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.599 kind of balance themselves out sometime In. June those numbers 867 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.119 for whatever, reason feel a little low to, me but 868 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:24.800 you know they're probably in the. 869 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.119 Neighborhood i'll ask you a question that's been posed to 870 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.800 me at different stops and questions That i've, poked you, 871 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.559 know a question That i've posed other college football. Guests 872 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.840 what gives You bill the most confidence the year two 873 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:39.960 in The Big twelve will be better for you top 874 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:40.920 football than your one. 875 00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:47.079 Was, well, again the offensive line might be the best 876 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.519 in college, football certainly going to be the best in 877 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.800 The Big. Twelve the defense brings back a lot of 878 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:56.880 really good player. Performers And i'll say this BECAUSE i 879 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.320 had a front row seat for every game last. Year 880 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.079 team competed and played really. Hard they were wildly deficient 881 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.639 at one, position and had that had quarterback played been 882 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.760 better For utah last, year just at an average level 883 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.559 as it kind of was the year, before the season 884 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.960 would look a lot. DIFFERENT i think a lot of 885 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.480 people are looking in, saying, well five wins the had 886 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.679 down program things like, That, well it's really back to 887 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.840 back years without your first string. Quarterback and they managed 888 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.440 eight wins the year before With bryce And barnes because 889 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.360 he had been in that system for three years and 890 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.280 knew it. Inside, Now Andy ludwig systems really, complicated and 891 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.679 last year they didn't have a quarterback that knew it 892 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.440 well at. All SO i think with a new offensive 893 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.880 system and a dynamic, quarterback if you can keep him 894 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.119 upright and this offensive line's really, GOOD i think This 895 00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:51.440 utah team was probably an eight nine ten win team 896 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.679 a year ago if they had a Healthy Cam. RISING 897 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.320 i think that they can be in that same range 898 00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.719 again this year if they keep the quarterback upright and 899 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.519 find one or two playmakers in the past. 900 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.119 Game all, Right rile's last. 901 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.920 Thing The Dallas mavericks lose to The Memphis grizzlies in 902 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.960 the playing, game which Allowed Alex jensen allocatas full time 903 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.519 and energy to his new job as the head. Coach 904 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:18.119 John McHenry is the latest transfer seventeen points three boards 905 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:22.280 couple of assists At Western. Kentucky by my, CALCULATIONS i 906 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:26.039 think there are five roster spots left For alex. 907 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.920 And Coach chilias And west and the group to. 908 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.360 Fill so just give us an update the progress and 909 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.119 if you have a chance to kind of communicate and 910 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:35.199 see any of these coaches up. 911 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.760 There and how the project is. Going to Rebuild utah men's. 912 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.320 Basketball i'm actually spence getting a. Chance over the next several, 913 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.119 days we're going to do some sit, down one on 914 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:48.679 one interviews nice with these, coaches which you guys will 915 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.599 see in the coming. Weeks SO i haven't met and 916 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.239 spoken a lot to a lot Of alex, obviously and 917 00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.480 Coach chilius i've spoken to on a couple of occasions 918 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.400 because he been around an awful. LOT a lot of 919 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.679 the other guys, now they're all pretty set. HERE i 920 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:07.840 Think Martin schiller will be the last one to come 921 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.360 over From, germany but they're pretty set. Now So i'm 922 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.559 looking forward to getting a chance to really meet these 923 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.360 guys and talk to these guys and kind of get 924 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.320 their feel for where they. ARE i can't really speak 925 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.679 to the recruits themselves only because none of them have 926 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.599 officially signed. It they've all, committed and BECAUSE i work 927 00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.000 for the athletic department, Now i'm not technically allowed to 928 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.519 speak about them until they're officially. Signed so on a 929 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.480 future show with, YOU i will go very much in 930 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.280 depth with these, guys AND i think we'll probably see 931 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.320 that pretty. Soon BUT i know they've gotten a lot 932 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.119 of commitments from some players they really. Like So i'm 933 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.000 just really looking forward to getting a chance to talk 934 00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:50.360 to these guys BECAUSE i Think alex has put together 935 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.639 a really unique. Staff he hasn't gone with, that you, 936 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.719 Know i'm going to hire seventeen assistant coaches and staff. 937 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.559 MEMBERS i think he's kind of valued quality over quantity 938 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.280 and kept a little bit tighter. Group But i'm really 939 00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.480 anxious over the next week or, So i'm going to 940 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.320 get a chance to sit down with each new staff 941 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.119 member and and do a one on one with. 942 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.920 Them just pass along the message and find out if 943 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.239 there's any interest in signing a forty seven year old 944 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:15.519 gunner who will not guard or. 945 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.519 Pass, well you'd be a lot Like Luka. Doncic then 946 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:20.280 you're just a little bit. 947 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.039 Older fair, enough fair, enough R. 948 00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.079 Luca, passes but he doesn't. Guard what what do you? 949 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:25.760 Mean did? 950 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.199 You by the, way what did you make of the 951 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.320 Whole halliburton's dad And yannis's face thing the other? 952 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.840 Night whenever the family member is the, story it's never. 953 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.639 Positive let let your famous family member be the famous 954 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:41.400 family member instead of. It LIKE i, think like if 955 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.840 that was you OR I, bill we'd be banned from 956 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.559 AN nba. Arena we would never attend ANOTHER nba. GAME 957 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.960 i think they should send a very stern. Message it 958 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.159 was a horrible look and he took the shine off 959 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:53.639 his son's, moment you know WHAT i? 960 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.000 Mean like everything about it was just clown. 961 00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.559 Behavior by the, way they did come out this say. 962 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.400 Afternoon pacers had banned him the rest of the. 963 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.800 Playoffs, OH i didn't see it for away. Game, okay good, 964 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.039 good good good. Good all, right my, friend great to see. 965 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:05.960 You let's get together. Soon. 966 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.920 Okay the, voice the voice of the. Utes his name 967 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.079 Is Bill. Riley he joins the program from time to. 968 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.840 Time he Stops spot today courtesy of our friends AT 969 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.199 Ifa Country. 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May Happy thursday to. 981 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.239 You it has been a while because he's a very busy, 982 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.079 man and also he's really not allowed to hang out with, 983 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.000 me but we got him live in the studio for 984 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.480 an entire. Hour the editor of The Sports action from 985 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.119 The Salt Lake, Tribune Aaron, Fall Happy, thursday. 986 00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:04.679 Sir how are? YOU I i'm. 987 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.960 Great how are you Spend i'm. Great it's great to see. 988 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.639 YOU i know you're a busy, guy so thank you 989 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:08.880 for the. 990 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.360 Time, Yeah i'm breaking my restraining order by by seeing. 991 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.800 You, hey, well you, KNOW i doubt she, listens SO 992 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.480 i think you're. 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Merchant there was a period of time 1005 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.239 WHERE i think that was our that was our love. 1006 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.800 Language you, know we. 1007 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:53.119 Humiliated each other with CUSTOM t shirts and in all 1008 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.880 of our, friends not Just kimarani AND. I it was 1009 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.719 it was too expensive and we spent way too much 1010 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.360 money doing, this but we did it for two or three. 1011 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:03.440 YEARS i mean it was a long. 1012 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.760 Time you have a face swap Of Kyle, goon is IT? Tj, 1013 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.719 yes that's a great. 1014 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.079 Shirt, yeah, yeah, exactly many things like. That it's just weird, 1015 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.119 things you, know stuck on, planes playing with your. Phone 1016 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.639 dumb things, happen and and we made merch and you, 1017 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.400 know we made memories, really. 1018 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.440 And that's what it's all. About what is your love? 1019 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:26.840 Language by the, way eron. 1020 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.840 Peace and quiet and? Quiet, okay that. 1021 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.360 Is that, one because if that's, ONE i finally figured mine. 1022 00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:36.480 Out, no you, KNOW i think you, know if we're 1023 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:40.519 going to answer, honestly quality, time quality, time, okay love. It, 1024 00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.599 well we're about to spend some quality time, Together. 1025 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.840 Aaron the easy thing to do today is to look 1026 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.800 at The Utah jazz roster from twenty twenty one and 1027 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.320 See Donovan, mitchell who's about to be a first Team 1028 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.440 ALL Nba player and will even get SOME mvp. Votes 1029 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.599 he might finish third or. Fourth it's probably gonna Be 1030 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.679 shay and. Yokah to look At Rudy, gobert who just 1031 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.719 had potentially the best postseason game he's ever had last. 1032 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.960 Night it helps that it was against The, lakers so 1033 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.920 the world was. Watching and Then Mike conley hit a 1034 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.119 couple of dagger. Threes to be, Fair mike his age 1035 00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.320 a little, bit but he was really good last. Night 1036 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.639 George nyang had a good. Season then there there's the 1037 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.000 boy On bogdanovitch's of the. World the easy thing to 1038 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:25.320 do today is to, say, wow did you blow it 1039 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.880 by breaking that group down In Salt Lake, City, utah 1040 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.280 where it's hard to get. Talent, okay that's the easy 1041 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.400 thing to do. Today what's the fair thing to say 1042 00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:34.400 about that entire? 1043 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:40.320 PROCESS i was thinking about this AND i do, think you, 1044 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.599 KNOW i, mean, okay, sure, Sure George nang had a you, 1045 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:48.480 know had some. Moments like you, Said mike, looked you, 1046 00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:52.000 know looked better last night than he has throughout the 1047 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.840 last little bit as he's gotten a little bit. Older 1048 00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.800 but both of these, guys Both rudy And donovan went 1049 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.760 to better teams THAN i think would have existed In Salt. 1050 00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:06.000 Lake and so if you, are you, know a believer 1051 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:09.519 in you, know we're living for the now and playoffs 1052 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:10.079 is a good. 1053 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.079 Time and you know we have two. 1054 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:19.039 Star level players and truthfully may not achieve a duo 1055 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.519 like that anytime. SOON i can you know, YOU i 1056 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.920 think you're you have a fair argument to be frustrated and, say, 1057 00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:28.480 hey we should have been a playoff. Team we should 1058 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.239 have given ourselves a few bites at this and maybe 1059 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:33.760 maybe you get lucky and break. Through BUT i think 1060 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:37.119 if you look at it, realistically the talent that That 1061 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.159 rudy has around him in In minnesota is better than 1062 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.440 A Rudy donovan team was. Here AND i think the 1063 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.599 talent That donovan has around him In cleveland is better 1064 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:47.320 than A Rudy donovant team would have been. HERE i, 1065 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.440 mean no disrespect to The royce O'Neills of the, world 1066 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.000 and and you, know and Boy on has has not 1067 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.280 be you, know it's not the person that Boy on 1068 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.519 was when he had the surgery in the bubble that 1069 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.440 that pandemic. Season BUT i don't think that that cast 1070 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.920 of players matches either one of those, Teams AND i 1071 00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.760 don't think that there were a lot of avenues for 1072 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.440 bringing in that kind of. Talent there's No garland, coming 1073 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.079 there's No Julius randall coming on the other. End and you, 1074 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.320 know even if you say That donovan is as good 1075 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.480 as ant or or, WHATEVER i just don't think that 1076 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.079 you have the cast that supports either of them the 1077 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:25.079 way that they do in their current. 1078 00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:26.920 Situations the fair and well. 1079 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.119 Said So i'll reduce it to a, question do you 1080 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.159 think because you, know for whatever, Reason Dennis lindsay meets 1081 00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.400 with the new ownership group and decides, Like i'm, out all, 1082 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.000 right So i'll be the, consultant, essentially pay out my 1083 00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.920 contract and all exit states left and wear leather jackets and. 1084 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:49.320 Such quinn himself said no pathway. Forward so the decision 1085 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.519 to break that team down brick by brick essentially Was danny's, 1086 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.239 right and Probably Jay z as well a little, bit 1087 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.159 who was still part of the. 1088 00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.559 Equation do you think it was the right call in? 1089 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:04.519 RETROSPECT i think, So AND i think even even if 1090 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.920 you even if we you, know take WHAT i just 1091 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.840 said and maybe you, disagree and maybe you think that 1092 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:10.800 that cast is as good as one of those. Teams 1093 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.639 and maybe, NO i think you're, correct but for the 1094 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.760 sake of, ARGUMENT i think that those two guys had 1095 00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.599 real issues with each other, obviously and you, know sometimes 1096 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.079 you got a break up and and you, know maybe 1097 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.360 maybe you could, say, hey if you stick together for 1098 00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:32.239 another seven six seven, years you, know everything heals, over 1099 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.960 we've got, scars we move. ON i just don't think 1100 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.719 that you get there very. Quickly AND i think that 1101 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.239 both of those guys are in better places because of a. 1102 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.199 Breakup and SO i do think ultimately right. Choice it 1103 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:48.679 doesn't mean that it's not doesn't mean that it's not, 1104 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.800 painful and doesn't mean that that that's not gonna be 1105 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.360 the high water mark for a long. TIME i mean 1106 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:56.440 that very, well maybe as good as it gets for 1107 00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:58.079 ten or twenty. 1108 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.639 YEARS i don't. Know, yeah, yeah you. 1109 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.199 Know it's it's funny because and this is a little 1110 00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.719 bit at apples and, oranges and it's always dangerous to 1111 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.800 compare eras and different operating styles of eras and the 1112 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.000 way teams have to go about their, business and certainly 1113 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.440 the uniqueness Of John stockton And Karl, malone who stayed 1114 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.280 in our market for basically twenty. Years But John stockton 1115 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.360 And Carl malone were together for eleven and twelve years 1116 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.239 before they went to the. Finals, Right so in nineteen eighty, 1117 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.400 Eight john And Carl mark Eaton Bobby, hanson that group 1118 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.519 they Take Magic, Johnson Kareem Abdul, jabbar That laker team 1119 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.639 to seven games and almost beat, Them and that was 1120 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.159 kind of the NBA's wake up, call, like, oh that 1121 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.239 team In salta's pretty. Good the next, Year Terry, teagle 1122 00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.000 a random cast Of Golden State warriors sweep. Them so 1123 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.119 If Scott layden decided in nineteen eighty nine pulling the 1124 00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.840 plug they can't get it down to the, playoffs that 1125 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.000 takes away seven eight years later of when they actually 1126 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:00.320 go to the. 1127 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.079 Finals. Right you see the parallel. 1128 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.519 Here so look, again this is a little bit unfair 1129 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.199 because we can again be reductive and say one person 1130 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.079 blew this whole thing, up and he's playing In. Cleveland 1131 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.800 this was A Donovan, MITCHELL i don't want to live 1132 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:15.280 in Salt lake. 1133 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.400 Anymore summer At George. 1134 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.960 Floyd Black Lives matter kind of finds his, voice which is, 1135 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.800 fine you, know, ao no issue with. It we have 1136 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.960 a was it a Senator adams or whatever who Tells 1137 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.559 donovan get. Educated like the whole, thing the way it went, 1138 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.039 down has to be talked about in order to be. 1139 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.400 Fair but there is a space in my mind that, 1140 00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.599 Exists Like donovan had two years left on his, deal 1141 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.800 and you say to, him you're under, contract you play for, 1142 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.840 us and then maybe for two more, years you try 1143 00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.519 to convince him that he can win. Here and if 1144 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.559 somehow that, happens Maybe rudy And donovan learn the Lessons 1145 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.280 john And carl do for the next seven or Eight 1146 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.760 you understand What i'm, saying extremely hypothetic and you can 1147 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:54.920 only misbehave. 1148 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.159 Like, this or you get to that place and you, 1149 00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.480 know you get to the end of a tracked and 1150 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.880 you basically lose all your leverage and you don't get 1151 00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:05.639 package back For donovan or For. 1152 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:06.800 Rudy rudy ages. 1153 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.639 Out maybe you, know something happens and you, know butterfly 1154 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.559 flaps its wings and caught her fly and here we. 1155 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.760 Are BUT i you, KNOW i THINK i think that 1156 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.199 it makes sense on paper to have done what they. 1157 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.199 Did it hurts the heart of people who want to 1158 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:30.400 watch quality, basketball right because it was not a season 1159 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.199 to pay attention TO i mean if you're if you 1160 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.639 watched all eighty two of, those you're a. Sikoh good for. 1161 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.599 You but there was no reason to be invested in 1162 00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.159 what was happening on that court in any meaningful way 1163 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.400 this this. Year so if you're, HURT i completely. Understand 1164 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:50.159 BUT i think on, paper it was the strategically sound 1165 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:54.360 thing to, do knowing that you might not get those packages. 1166 00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.639 Back, okay one more thing, here let's operate off the hypothetical. 1167 00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.880 Again we can misbehave on sports soccreatio in a way 1168 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:06.519 you can. Elsewhere let's Say danny Sits Alan donovan and all, 1169 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.280 right it's clear that in two years you're. Leaving all, 1170 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:10.039 right so we're gonna trade you to your, point because 1171 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:11.440 if you don't, TRADE i mean he leaves in two 1172 00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.760 years for, nothing you Get Gordon hayward all over, again 1173 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.480 which sets your franchise. Back The mitchell trade Brought Colin 1174 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:21.679 Sexton lowry, Marketing Ochai, obaji who by the, way played 1175 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:25.559 well In toronto this, year and three first round. 1176 00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:25.800 Picks and two. 1177 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.239 Pickswaps what if you do The mitchell trade and you 1178 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:33.119 hang on To Go, bear and suddenly your starting lineup 1179 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.840 is Go Beart, lowry marketing, Boy Am, Bogdanovitch Mike, CONLEY 1180 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.960 i don't, Know clarkson, whatever And obaji the other piece 1181 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:42.199 Is Colin sexton's brought? 1182 00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:43.880 In what does that look? 1183 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.239 Like And quinn, decides, Okay i'll stay there's a pathway 1184 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.239 forward because we're not completely rebuilding. 1185 00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:50.400 Or Or quinn. 1186 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.239 DOESN'T i, mean you know there's a chance there that, 1187 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.880 that you, Know Quinn snyder a GOOD nba, coach great 1188 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:02.360 maybe GREAT nba, coach he runs into a situation where you, 1189 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.480 know your voice doesn't sound the, same you lose a 1190 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:06.880 locker room a little, bit or you just need you 1191 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.920 just need to shake things. Up so maybe maybe there's 1192 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.360 another piece there. Where if it's Not Will, hardy it's 1193 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.719 somebody else who comes in and can uh take over 1194 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.199 and you, know give you a little bit more energy 1195 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.880 in that. WAY i don't, know BUT i MEAN i, 1196 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.440 AGREE i THINK i think those are our good. Teams, 1197 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:27.039 again probably not a championship level. Team and you also 1198 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.840 run the risk of you, Know rudy aging out and 1199 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.360 being you, know the end the on the on the 1200 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.440 downward slope of a career arc and you're, like why 1201 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.559 did we do? This so with a big contract, Too, 1202 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.840 yes the huge, contract and a guy who as talented 1203 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.840 as he is does a thing that everyone here you, 1204 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.800 know can can appreciate and, respect but does get either 1205 00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.000 exploited or you, know gets get some blame for in 1206 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.199 in you, know the kind of the national. Landscape and 1207 00:56:56.239 --> 00:57:00.639 maybe that's not a winning combination all the. Time, sure 1208 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.239 last night was, great but so, far you, know it 1209 00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.119 hasn't exactly won anyone a championship just. 1210 00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.440 Yet, well and to be fair about last, night he 1211 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.239 was catching lobs, over Gave, vincent who's your hYP you, 1212 00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.400 know Like rehddick decided to go by the way that 1213 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.519 good good size in. 1214 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.119 Girth while we're at, IT. 1215 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.480 I, Mean reddick went all, small, Right and so in 1216 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.159 order to be, fair it's not like they were throwing 1217 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:22.800 it To rudy on the block and he was giving 1218 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.119 you The Hakeem olajuan dream. 1219 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.599 SHAKE i mean he. Was he had nine, dunks nine. 1220 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.159 Offense, look he was, awesome but it was against a 1221 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:30.199 team that went completely. 1222 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.199 Small let's, see all, right. 1223 00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.000 One more thing, here because every TIME i, like for, 1224 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.679 instance The pistons in the next play, tonight The pistons 1225 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:41.800 have lost nine straight home playoff. Games they have not 1226 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:43.800 won a home playoff game since two thousand and, eight 1227 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:47.000 which for, Guys i'm older than, you but you Remember 1228 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.400 Isaiah thomas and the bad boys in The Great pistons. 1229 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:54.639 Basketball minnesota just won a first round playoff. Series they 1230 00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.519 did the same thing last. Year it was the first 1231 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:58.400 time in the history The timberwolves that they have two 1232 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.280 straight years where they won a playoff. Series we could 1233 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.880 talk About washington the last time that they were. Decent 1234 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:08.400 and my fear is if On may, twelfth you, know 1235 00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.039 The jazz are picking fourth or, fifth we could be 1236 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.719 one of those markets that's spinning their. Wheels for, fourteen, 1237 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:18.519 fifteen sixteen, years we've just been spoiled because we've never 1238 00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:23.079 had that. Happen it's commonplace in pro basketball to have, 1239 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:26.119 decades if, not you, know a, decade if not, more 1240 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.599 of no playoff, basketball no playoff. 1241 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.239 Success and it doesn't have to be in a small. 1242 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.760 Market The New York knicks from like nineteen ninety nine 1243 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:37.639 to twenty, thirteen fourteen were a. Joke is there a 1244 00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:41.400 fear underlying fear in this? Market, like all, right maybe 1245 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.519 we get one In Cooper, flag maybe we. Don't and 1246 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.360 the dirty little secret is they're Not Cooper flag away 1247 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:48.639 from even being, Good like they're a long way away 1248 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:49.320 from even being. 1249 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:53.320 Good, WELL i think you know there there probably needs 1250 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.599 to be some level set of expectation going into into 1251 00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:59.719 that lottery BECAUSE i think there are a lot of 1252 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.920 people people and even if they know the math and 1253 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:06.320 they've heard that, number they think we did we did 1254 00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:09.079 the hard, work we did the dirty, work and Now 1255 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:13.800 Cooper flag is the next. Step those numbers are not 1256 00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.039 in your. Favor, yes you gave yourself the best chance possible. 1257 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:20.360 Fourteen. 1258 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.079 Percent there's gonna be a lot of you, know there's 1259 00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.519 the potential high higher, Potential, yeah a lot of disappointed 1260 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:31.079 fans when when those ping pong balls are read. Out so, 1261 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.159 yes so to your, point, absolutely, okay see incredible. 1262 00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.920 Rebuild that's that's going to be more rare than They. 1263 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.079 Yeah, sure you, know it could be a long time 1264 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:46.960 and if they don't Get Cooper, flag or maybe even 1265 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:48.960 if they, DO i mean it's going to be a 1266 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.159 lot like this next. Year you, know and you look 1267 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.679 at you, know What hinky did In philly and the 1268 00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.000 number of they got number ones out of that or you, 1269 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.159 know and those and always pan out. Either, SO i, 1270 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.920 mean it's just there isn't a magic way to get this, 1271 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:04.960 done but. 1272 01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:07.199 Through the. 1273 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.559 PAIN i think you know there is, potential but there 1274 01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:12.159 could be a lot of pain before we get. 1275 01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:13.840 There you got to have a lot of luck fall your. 1276 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.199 WAY i know you were not working with the team 1277 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.480 when the deconstruction, happened but what's your understanding of just 1278 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:23.440 how how bad a guy With donaga behind the? 1279 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:23.760 Scenes? 1280 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.480 Why because look a lot of attention this year in THE, nba, 1281 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.000 like how Could Nico harrison trade a twenty five year 1282 01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:30.840 old superstar in his? 1283 01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:31.519 Prime that never? 1284 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.639 Happens happened? Here donovan's Not, luca but it happened here 1285 01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.400 and In Salt. Lake when you have a talent like, 1286 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.000 that you've got to do everything you can to hang 1287 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.559 on to, him which has to indicate behind the, scenes 1288 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:43.559 it got it Got, harry it got. 1289 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.039 Bad what's your understanding of how that went? 1290 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:45.199 Down? 1291 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.119 Yeah AND i don't know all the ins and, outs 1292 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:51.199 but certainly there was very real frustration intension with Between 1293 01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:56.000 donovan And, rudy and, certainly you, know As donovan voiced 1294 01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.920 himself and felt more comfortable saying after, leaving he obviously 1295 01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.440 had real problems with how he was treated while he 1296 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.880 lived in the, state by, politicians by you, know maybe 1297 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:12.920 just maybe just perception even but so, NO i think 1298 01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:18.440 definitely a real. Problem and, yeah AGAIN i don't know 1299 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:20.360 all the ins and, outs but that's. Somebody but people 1300 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.719 with the best information thought that was the best. 1301 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.000 Move so here we. 1302 01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:26.800 Go, Sure AND i always try to be very sensitive 1303 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.000 to dynamics THAT i don't. Understand i'm a white man 1304 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:30.599 who lives In Salt. LAKE i don't know what it's 1305 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.280 like to be a black man living In Salt lake 1306 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.800 WHEN i think it's two point seven percent of our 1307 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.840 city As African. American so it's easy for me to 1308 01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:39.400 say AND i am going to say this BECAUSE i 1309 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:42.440 felt Like donovan walked on water. Here and, yes there 1310 01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:43.960 was The Stewart adams dumb. 1311 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:48.280 Thing, SAY i JUST i don't, Know LIKE i, Said 1312 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.199 i'm Not. DONOVAN i can't relate to that. 1313 01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.280 Experience but from my vantage, POINT i felt like people 1314 01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:55.719 Loved Donovan mitchell here In. 1315 01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.639 UTAH i think that's, true you, know and, certainly you, 1316 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.719 know people Love Donovan mitchell the athlete and the success 1317 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.760 that that he brought and the joy that he brought 1318 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.559 to a fan. BASE i you, know, Again i'm with, 1319 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:13.559 you white guy living In Salt Lake. CITY i can 1320 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.519 imagine that it would be tough to, be you, know 1321 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:19.519 in in that grade of a minority and not see 1322 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.880 many people who look like you and feel that maybe you, 1323 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:26.840 know you, are whether whether it's real organ perception that 1324 01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:29.639 feel like you're being you, know judged or, watched or 1325 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.199 that the weight is on. You and there are people 1326 01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.000 who study these things that feel, that you, know say 1327 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:39.199 like there is a level of pressure that somebody in that, 1328 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:43.159 situation star, athlete you, know or or a voice for you, 1329 01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:47.159 know a minority group feels and and has to sort 1330 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.840 of like, uh process and deal with that goes beyond 1331 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.559 what we can what we can. Understand SO i think 1332 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:55.760 THAT i think that's that's a real. THING i mean, 1333 01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.440 again hard to hard to, know hard to, know whether you, 1334 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:04.199 Know and you're putting maybe some thoughts Into, okay yes 1335 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.400 you're cheering me in the, arena but based on the 1336 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.920 policies that get voted into in the, state based on 1337 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.239 what people say about other, things you, know like, yeah 1338 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.000 you know you're not saying this to, me but you're 1339 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.039 saying this about someone who is like, me or looks like, 1340 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:19.159 me or things like. 1341 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.639 ME i can see how that can be. Frustrate, yeah very, 1342 01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:22.039 fair good. 1343 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:27.519 Perspective the other last thing, Here the other thing Is donovan's. 1344 01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:31.320 Generation he's twenty eight, now so you, know twenty, five 1345 01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.880 twenty six when he left. Here it's easy for me to, 1346 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.719 say don't look at your, mentions or get off get Off, 1347 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:42.519 twitter get Off, instagram stop reading direct. Messages this generation behind, Us. 1348 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.280 Aaron they were raised with cell phones and social media 1349 01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.320 as their friends and their babysitters in a way that 1350 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:47.599 we just. 1351 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.119 Weren't SO i never look at my. 1352 01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.880 Mentions i've got my direct messages open On. Instagram if 1353 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:57.239 people send me something, Decent i'll interact and OTHERWISE i ignore. 1354 01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.760 It but the social. 1355 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.039 Media backlash that he took here in the state after 1356 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.599 he started speaking, up it's easy for me to, say 1357 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.679 don't read, it but they all read. IT i, mean 1358 01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.519 coaches in THE nba talk about going in to the 1359 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:12.480 locker room at halftime to give a speech and all 1360 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.280 the players have their phone looking like looking at their. 1361 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:17.440 Mentions that probably didn't help the way that he seemed 1362 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:19.519 to be a tapped online after he started kind of 1363 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:20.920 expressing his, views no. 1364 01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.880 Doubt, well and and you know the old it's the switcheroo, 1365 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.960 THERE i, mean you think about, yeah, okay so we 1366 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:28.719 were talking about all the negative that comes from. That 1367 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:34.000 but for, huge for, years you, know from from probably high, 1368 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.840 school maybe before high school Into louisville into the earliest, 1369 01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.239 days he was getting tons of positive. 1370 01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.239 Feedback you, know brain is firing, good, good good. 1371 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.559 Good and then all of a, sudden like the thing 1372 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.760 that you know has given you a bunch of very 1373 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.159 positive reinforcement in your in your life collapses on. You 1374 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.599 and you, know it takes a while to break a. 1375 01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.679 Habit if that's you, know it's, hard hard to put 1376 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:57.599 away the mentions right. 1377 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.719 Right one more thing, here because you WERE i still 1378 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.639 can't believe you had this. Experience you were in the 1379 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:07.039 bubble In orlando when THE nba resumed. Playing how do 1380 01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:09.199 you THINK covid changed? Them how do you THINK covid 1381 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.559 changed that? Group Because i'll always maintain OBVIOUSLY covid changed 1382 01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.760 a lot of, things and basketball is not the most important. 1383 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.679 Thing but how did THE covid experience change that? 1384 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:17.000 Group? 1385 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:21.760 Yeah, WELL i think definitely there was you, know whatever 1386 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.039 differences That donovan And rudy had There here was another 1387 01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.679 point of, frustration you, Know donovan believing That rudy got 1388 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.639 him sick early on in the initial days of a, 1389 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.239 pandemic when you didn't know what that meant, for you, 1390 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.519 know somebody Like, donovan you, know because you, know would 1391 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:40.719 it impact him as an? Athlete would it impact you? Know, 1392 01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:43.639 Again so so here here's someone who's already under your, 1393 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.840 skin and now you're blaming them for putting you in 1394 01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:48.920 a situation that you really really don't want to be. 1395 01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:49.920 In SO i. 1396 01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:54.480 THINK i think watching that and watching you, know kind 1397 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.440 of the, Restart, uh there was sort of a. CHILLING 1398 01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.559 i think they did try to bridge, things you, know 1399 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.960 and maybe there was a, chance a great reset that 1400 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.119 the pandemic there give, us all, right and then you 1401 01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:12.760 lose because Because Mike, conley smart guy planned a pregnancy 1402 01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:16.519 with this with his wife to happen during THE nbaf. 1403 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:18.960 Season but the nb off season becomes the, playoffs, right 1404 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.360 and he goes back home and you, know throws off 1405 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.639 a little rhythm there because Boy bogdanovitch gets hurt and 1406 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:28.719 needs surgery and isn't there and because you you, know 1407 01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:33.199 choke away what should have been an easy seemed an 1408 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.159 easy win over the over That nuggets team at that. 1409 01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:37.159 Point and maybe if you, win maybe if you if 1410 01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:40.559 you make a run to the conference finals or something like, 1411 01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.079 that even in the, bubble maybe that sets you up 1412 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.199 for more success and a chance to go. Over but you, take, 1413 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:49.280 yeah we've we've just. Lost we don't don't have that. 1414 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:52.079 Taste then we come back and you, know get run 1415 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:55.519 out of the building early, on vibes are very very. 1416 01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:58.559 Down, yeah, yeah five years ago that you were in that. 1417 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.519 Bubble it's, wild they can, Say or isn't it truly? 1418 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:08.159 Insane and, uh you, Know i've it's very. Funny it's 1419 01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.199 like it just becomes part of a. Personality we're we're so, 1420 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.000 old we're SO i feel like it's just like this 1421 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:14.760 is the depression for us or something like, that, right 1422 01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:16.480 like we have to talk about. It it's a central 1423 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.079 point in. Everything and then there's just people that don't. 1424 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:21.440 Care it's not gonna bother them. Anymore let it, go 1425 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:22.360 And i'm trying to get to that. 1426 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.679 Place there you, Go, yeah let. Go let got er all? 1427 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:26.800 Right coming up, tomorrow excited for. This we're gonna be 1428 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.199 out in about at the Former Legacy. Center this is 1429 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.400 a legacy, fulfilled a milestone forty years in the, making 1430 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:35.440 will be realized. Tomorrow the location is one oh nine 1431 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:38.679 six Zero South Park road In South. Jordan it's their grand. 1432 01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.840 Opening we're gonna have a ribbon cutting that starts at eleven. 1433 01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.760 Am the event itself goes from eleven am to, three 1434 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:46.480 but we're gonna be there until Six so ribbon cutting, 1435 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.599 ceremony tours the new, facility appearances by local, leaders dignitaries 1436 01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:53.679 and sports. Personalities Former Legacy center is gonna serve as 1437 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.639 a hub for amateur, boxing youth, mentorship and community health, 1438 01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.960 programming including fitness boxing for, women, seniors and individual living With. 1439 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.159 Parkinson's so come on, by of, course the legends, themselves 1440 01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:07.920 Gene jay and Don. Fulmer it is the legacy fulfilled 1441 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.760 the grand opening of the Former Legacy center at ONE 1442 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:13.360 o nine zero ONE o nine six Zero South Park 1443 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.000 road In South. Jordan all, right tusks up coming up 1444 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.359 next on the, program so keep it here ON espn seven. 1445 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:21.159 Hundred the listeners. 1446 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.159 Of the program and also friends of, mine know That 1447 01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:28.560 i'm a, massive massive fan of the greatest REALITY tv 1448 01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:31.159 show of all, Time Laguna beach and then the. 1449 01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.880 Hills of, course shout OUT. Lc he's like a sister to. 1450 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:38.199 ME i was always Team, kristen But elsie, again lover 1451 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:40.520 like a. Sister AND i don't know, Why, aaron but 1452 01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.800 every time this is from that soundtrack AND i love the, 1453 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.880 soundtrack and every time A Dashboard confessional song comes on 1454 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.279 for some, Reason i'm, LIKE i guarantee fulk went through 1455 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:49.600 a big. 1456 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:55.119 Phase fair, confirmed all, right knew. IT i knew. IT 1457 01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:56.000 i don't know. 1458 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.760 Why, listen, MAN i got. FEELINGS i know you? Do you, 1459 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.479 KNOW i know you do. It it rocked my. World 1460 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.079 you know this this came OUT i was IN i 1461 01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.039 was in high. School you, know truthfully it might be 1462 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:09.239 a bigger fan of some of his early. 1463 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:15.000 Work, okay just. Kidding was this in the phase when 1464 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:20.680 you were playing? Music? Yeah for, Sure LIKE i you 1465 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:21.439 know this is. 1466 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.720 We're going To Warp, Tour we're going to we're going to, 1467 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.520 Shows we're hanging out of Kilby cory Love. It you, 1468 01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:29.399 know we're putting this in the sixth disc changer in 1469 01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:33.560 The Nissan pathfinder and you, know like just just feeling the. World, 1470 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.279 man windows? Down did you cover a dashboard? 1471 01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:37.239 Song? Oh? 1472 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.800 Man, okay all, Right, well, yeah that soundtrack has been 1473 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:42.680 making the rounds and that song came. On i'm, LIKE 1474 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:46.680 i Know faalk would appreciate, it all, Right aaron tusks. Up, 1475 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.199 Okay so the headline ON espn dot com is this 1476 01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:56.279 mammoth gaff question Mark utah mom on name after leak. 1477 01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.680 C k yesterday on the. Show more. 1478 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:04.159 Interested in the angle of who is up at two 1479 01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.920 am monitoring The Utah Hockey club YouTube? 1480 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.479 Handle and why are we doing? This for? 1481 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:13.359 Me it's another dynamic where who's asleep at the wheel over? 1482 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:15.560 THERE i, mean this reeks of the whole, like, hey 1483 01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:19.399 we're gonna leak the Yellow jazz jerseys accidentally and then, say, 1484 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:23.960 Wait purple's. Back so it appears that The Utah Hockey 1485 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.800 club accidentally let the cat out of the, bag and 1486 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.439 the hockey club, henceforth in forever will be known as 1487 01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.760 The Utah, mammoth WHICH i think is so bad for 1488 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.760 so many different. Reasons but this is another Embarrassing, look, 1489 01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:38.279 man that's my. 1490 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:39.319 Opinion where you at with? 1491 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:39.520 It? 1492 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:40.560 OH i, MEAN i. 1493 01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:44.319 It's hard for me to get very worked up about 1494 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:45.039 something like. 1495 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:47.640 THAT i, Mean i'm not losing. Sleep, yeah you, KNOW. 1496 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:52.199 I think having worked in that, world you know sort of, 1497 01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.279 before like a lot of different people doing a lot 1498 01:10:55.319 --> 01:11:00.359 of different, things and you, know, again did somebody make 1499 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:02.039 sure just we need to we need to secure, this 1500 01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.800 to make sure that this handle exists on, YouTube and, 1501 01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:07.600 uh you know you're you're trying to just lock it. 1502 01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.439 Down and then oh, no you, know we've we've we've 1503 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:15.000 confirmed when we should not have. CONFIRMED i, MEAN i don't. 1504 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.560 Know and then and then the other thing is, like 1505 01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.760 what's the bad? Publicity you, know, no there's no there's 1506 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:22.119 no bad publicity publicity if you think this is if 1507 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.520 this is the, name and you get people talking about it, 1508 01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:26.560 again you, know your team's not in the, playoffs and 1509 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:28.399 all of a sudden you. Are you, know it's a 1510 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.079 there's a bunch of really good stuff happening in THE 1511 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.680 nhl playoffs and you became a story again. Today like 1512 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.399 that's not too bad for me, Either SO i, mean, 1513 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.119 uh to, me not a bad look. NECESSARILY i just 1514 01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:41.159 think that you're talking about a bunch of people doing 1515 01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:42.199 a bunch of random. 1516 01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:43.560 Things it's like not that high. 1517 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.840 Level does it make the actual announcement a little anti 1518 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.239 climactic since we know what the name is going to 1519 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:51.920 be now or is there a possibility that this actually 1520 01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:53.520 Is to your, point were they just messing? 1521 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.039 Around maybe this isn't the. NAME i don't think they're messing. 1522 01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:59.520 AROUND i MEAN i saw that the comment, when you, 1523 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:01.039 know WHEN i asked about, it that they, said, hey 1524 01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:05.119 we're still exploring all three. NAMES i can't really believe 1525 01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:09.560 that at this late date you're equally exploring three different, 1526 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:11.880 possibilities like you got to start printing. Things we got 1527 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:13.399 to start you, know we've got to have a hat 1528 01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:19.239 for you know, WHOEVER i don't know mask or, SO i, 1529 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:21.920 mean it seems it seems very likely that this is the. 1530 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.760 OUTCOME i think it seems likely given the fan, reaction, 1531 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.119 uh you, know after After yetty drops, off it seemed 1532 01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:32.079 like this was the number one. Choice, SO i, mean, 1533 01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:36.920 yeah Quote John Paul, Junga i'm not surprised not. 1534 01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:41.000 A real, name all, right as somebody who was part 1535 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:45.159 of a naming process for a team that at the 1536 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.760 time had a lot of, pushback and still to this, 1537 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.800 day when people here At rayle Saw, lake they kind 1538 01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:52.960 of go way away a. Second WHAT i always have 1539 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.239 to remind everybody that the reason we did that. Is 1540 01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:58.279 our initial intention was to be The North american sister 1541 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:00.960 club Of Real, madrid and and we did have a 1542 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:04.119 partnership with. THEM a young ck in the stands as 1543 01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:07.399 a student Watching jason christ nearly score Against Real, madrid 1544 01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:08.960 watching The, galactokos and. 1545 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:10.760 We had becks put put a shovel in the. Ground 1546 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:12.359 you did a golden shovel at. 1547 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:17.319 That there's a picture in my, House rude Van nistelroy Ecer, cassius. 1548 01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:21.079 RIGHT i mean that was the initial intent of The 1549 01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:24.239 real Saw lake. Name it's not an easy thing to 1550 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.760 land on a name that everybody's gonna. Love AND i Hate. 1551 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:29.479 MAMMOTH i think it's. Horrible of the, options that was 1552 01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.479 actually my least. Favorite so again it's this is a 1553 01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:34.920 difficult thing to do because you're gonna get criticism no matter. 1554 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:36.199 What but what do you think of the name now 1555 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:37.680 that we have an idea of what it's going to. 1556 01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:41.239 BE i think a couple of. Things i'm not as 1557 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.399 put off by it as as you. ARE i, think you, 1558 01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:47.520 know it makes it makes some. Sense there's you, know 1559 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:50.640 history within the, state there's you, know some some actual 1560 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:52.760 local tie LIKE i THINK i would have had a 1561 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.159 greater problem with something that just like tries to sound, 1562 01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:58.680 cool like venom was was, Migrat like venom is a 1563 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.439 thing that's a nickname you give yoursel elf and. 1564 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.199 It's not like it's not. Cool it's gonna Do, avatar. 1565 01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:07.640 Bro SO i think that at least it feels, like, hey, 1566 01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:10.359 yeah there's there is a utah reason that this could 1567 01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:13.119 be the name of the. Team and it makes sense. 1568 01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:17.520 TOO i think with anything with naming a, child, like 1569 01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:22.880 every name sounds, stupid even you, know my parents sitting 1570 01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:27.199 down there thinking about naming a Child, aaron like it sounds, 1571 01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.399 stupid and then it just becomes your, name you. Know 1572 01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.640 and so for the first generation of fans, here, yeah 1573 01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:33.279 there's gonna. 1574 01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:34.439 Be some people that are hardcore about. 1575 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:37.359 It they're gonna be a bunch of people that think sounds, 1576 01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.680 fake it's not. Real and then there're gonna be people 1577 01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:41.239 that are born into it and it's always gonna be 1578 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:42.680 real to, them you know WHAT i. Mean and SO 1579 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.479 i think that's that's the nature OF i like the Name. 1580 01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.159 Aaron do you not like your? Name, Oh I'm i'm 1581 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:48.880 you're okay with. 1582 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:50.640 THAT i love the. Name it's it's you, know no no. 1583 01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:52.479 Problem i'm just saying it sounds it's you, know when 1584 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:54.439 you say a word over and over again or, whatever 1585 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:56.560 it sounds fake like, this like how do you how 1586 01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:59.359 do you make that? Decision and then it just becomes 1587 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.079 that the right fit fair? Enough what's your middle? 1588 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:02.319 Name? 1589 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:05.560 Caleb my Parent? Caleb my parents argued my my mother 1590 01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:09.479 wanted to name Me. Caleb my father put the guybosh on. 1591 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.239 It so, okay so then they all twitch your. Room, yeah. Okay. 1592 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:17.199 Uh from a macro, Standpoint Bell Belle, frasier who you 1593 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:20.640 hired to cover the hockey club or The Utah mammoth 1594 01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:24.720 potentially for the trip friend of the Program dynamic on. 1595 01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.319 AIR i think it was a great hire by, you 1596 01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:28.760 AND i think she does a really good. Job what 1597 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:30.680 has the first year been like for you guys to 1598 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.039 cover pro hockey in our? 1599 01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.239 Market, yeah you, know shout Out. Bell she has been 1600 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:41.319 super hard, worker clearly understands the the, sport and it's 1601 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:44.840 extremely passionate about. IT i think a great, person you, 1602 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.600 know to advocate for fans and try to you, know 1603 01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:49.479 teach a little and all of. 1604 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.039 That you, know it's been it's been very. 1605 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:57.239 INTERESTING i think it's it is. 1606 01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:59.600 There's those are full buildings every. 1607 01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.640 Night, yeah and it is still a very niche sport 1608 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:03.840 in a lot of. 1609 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:05.199 Ways you. KNOW i think. 1610 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.840 The test and the question for me will be once 1611 01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:12.079 this team is a playoff team or you, know a 1612 01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.439 little bit of a, run how many folks are really 1613 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:19.680 invested in? It Beyond i'm excited about like the vibes 1614 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:22.319 of this. Thing here's a cool new. THING i like 1615 01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:24.560 going to a. GAME i, like you, KNOW i like 1616 01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:27.479 the idea that my state has this versus how many 1617 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:31.239 people are like Obviously Dylan gunther should be on the second, 1618 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.600 line you, know and and breaking it down AND I 1619 01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:36.439 i have SOME i have some questions about. 1620 01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:36.920 That we'll. 1621 01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:42.319 See but you, KNOW i think that fans really, connected you, 1622 01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.880 know just based on our metrics and what people. Read 1623 01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:49.279 they really connect with the cultural, stuff How utah has, 1624 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:53.039 perceived how you know players fit, in how you know 1625 01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.159 where you are in the pecking order of OTHER nhl, 1626 01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.199 markets and and those types of, things and certainly less 1627 01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.159 about like Is Barret, hayton you, know getting in front 1628 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:02.439 of goal? 1629 01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:02.760 Enough? 1630 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.399 Right like that those are gotting, increase Right? Yeah, yeah 1631 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:06.640 those are two very different. 1632 01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:08.840 Things and so the audience for one is much greater 1633 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:09.920 than the other at the, moment for. 1634 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:13.159 SURE i will tell you. This The Stanley cup playoffs 1635 01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:17.640 are so. Cool they're so, intense and we are now 1636 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.720 in a market during the springtime when other markets are 1637 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.279 experiencing either basketball spring basketball playoffs or spring hockey, playoffs 1638 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:29.199 and we're experiencing. Neither when, Well i'm going to say, 1639 01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:32.079 when Because i'm an internal, optimist you know, Me when 1640 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.199 springtime rolls around here in Saut lake and The mammoth 1641 01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:37.680 and The jazz are both in the, postseason it is 1642 01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:38.479 going to be popping. 1643 01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:42.039 DOWNTOWN i, mean that's a fun thing to think about. 1644 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.119 As a as a guy you grew up here following 1645 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.720 The jazz and working in the media now for a 1646 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.520 number of. Years do you have any specific Spring jazz 1647 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.720 playoff memories that. POP i, mean when the weather gets 1648 01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:57.640 warm and playoff basketball is in Saut, lake it's a 1649 01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.800 really really fun. THING i hope we can experience it. 1650 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:00.920 Too, yeah no. 1651 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.600 DOUBT i mean it's hard for me to to, ignore 1652 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.159 like the more recent, memories but being in being in 1653 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.520 there for That OKAY c series a couple of years 1654 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:15.479 ago with the you, know The City edition jerseys and 1655 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:19.159 that color scheme and you, know the arena looked just 1656 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:24.640 it's that's probably the COOLEST i, think and honestly some 1657 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.359 of the Loudest I've i've ever heard. It Ricky rubio 1658 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.800 moment that was that was a high water. Mark it 1659 01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.840 was for everybody. There Uh and SO i think that 1660 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.920 that's that really stands. OUT i, mean you, know back 1661 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:40.680 a little bit didn't hit quite as much that that 1662 01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.159 first breakthrough with With gordon and you get smoked by 1663 01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:46.359 A Golden state and then you go back years before 1664 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:49.319 AND i don't, know the memory. FADES I i. DON'T 1665 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:52.239 i don't have quite the attachment TO i. WASN'T i 1666 01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:55.760 wasn't at the arena for you, know jazz bowls or 1667 01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:56.279 anything like. 1668 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:56.720 That but. 1669 01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:01.039 That's that stands out for me. Personally and, Yeah i'm. 1670 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:04.479 EXCITED I i you, know very. Selfishly it's nice to 1671 01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.560 have things to talk about and absolutly that matter that 1672 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:07.439 people are invested. 1673 01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:10.560 In And i'll be very. CURIOUS i, mean my my 1674 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.039 working theory And i'd be. 1675 01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:15.920 Curious you, know what your take is on this is 1676 01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:21.439 that hockey has a will not be, bigger but has 1677 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.439 a higher ceiling THAN. Nba here in terms of landing free. 1678 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:30.239 Agents marquee, guys you know you have a higher potential 1679 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:32.760 of being A Stanley cup champion In Salt Lake city 1680 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.000 THAN i think Lifting alari O'Brien absolutely. 1681 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:38.359 Agree And i've been very impressed With Bill armstrong and 1682 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:42.079 they're good. Now they're the third youngest team in THE. 1683 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:44.720 Nhl they've got to think the fifth most most cap. 1684 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:48.359 Space and there just isn't the stigma attached To Salt 1685 01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.920 lake for hockey players that there are for basketball. Players 1686 01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:53.279 and for whatever, reason, right there are probably several that 1687 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:56.600 we get. INTO i think we've and you know what 1688 01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:58.279 we like. Here we want you to tell us that 1689 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.000 you like. Us and we've heard a lot of high 1690 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.680 hockey players already, say, man this place is. Great they'll 1691 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:06.239 be front facing about attracting other players to play for the. 1692 01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:09.199 Team you never HEAR nba players say that About. Utah 1693 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:10.920 you just, don't, Right, yeah. 1694 01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.039 The best the best you get is you, know, oh 1695 01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:16.159 once you get, here you know it's not bad or 1696 01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:19.600 it's you, know you'll you'll. Understand but nobody's selling it like. That, 1697 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:22.079 right it's a very different. Thing and, right you, know 1698 01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:25.119 right or, wrong very very different. Thing and, yeah and 1699 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:28.920 you look at obviously it's it's not as metropolitan and 1700 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:32.479 as you, Know toronto Or montreal or. Whatever but you've 1701 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.079 got guys coming From edmonton And, winnipeg and and you, 1702 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:36.880 know like someth like doesn't look so, bad right? 1703 01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:39.279 Right and you, KNOW i remember When hayward. LEFT i 1704 01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:41.279 said on air a couple of weeks, later if we 1705 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.680 can't keep the white dude who likes to play video 1706 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.119 games at night and is raising a, family it doesn't 1707 01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:47.560 bode well for who we're going to be able to. 1708 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:51.600 Keep and THAT i think is an underlying fear of jazz. 1709 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:55.800 Fans where, uh Since john And carl left and, retired 1710 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:58.279 every player that we've had here drafted and, developed they 1711 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:00.319 have not spent their entire career. 1712 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.159 Here and if you can't get a player. 1713 01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:04.920 Here to spend more than five or six years, here 1714 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:06.399 it's going to be hard to get a team to 1715 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:08.479 gel together long enough for them to be. GOOD i 1716 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:09.920 think a lot of jazz fans are afraid of. 1717 01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:10.479 That, yeah for. 1718 01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:14.000 Sure and you look at you, know people with a 1719 01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:17.079 little perspective Like Darren williams comes, Back But Darren williams 1720 01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:19.720 was not going to stay, Right AND i think pretty 1721 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:22.359 clearly at that. Point so you, know once you have 1722 01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:24.439 a little bit of life experience and you see how 1723 01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:26.479 things operate in other places and how you were treated 1724 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:28.520 and how you, lived and you know your commute and 1725 01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:30.920 all of, That, like, yeah it makes. Sense but you, 1726 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:33.920 know if you're a twenty five year old millionaire and 1727 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.920 the world is endless, potential you want to explore endless. 1728 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:39.479 Potential, Sure AND i completely get. 1729 01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:40.800 IT i MEAN i always try to look at it 1730 01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:42.840 through the prism of IF i was a twenty five 1731 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.560 year old multi, millionaire where WOULD i want to live 1732 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.399 IF i was? Single And i'm biased BECAUSE i like 1733 01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:50.039 it here AND i don't think it's a bad place to, 1734 01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:52.880 live BUT i can understand if you want to experience other. Places, 1735 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.960 really being a professional, athlete it's kind of an odd. 1736 01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:57.800 Thing like you're told where you're going to work and 1737 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.600 where you're going to live in any Other if you're 1738 01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:02.399 the best at what you do in the, world you 1739 01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:04.479 have control over where you can do that, thing and 1740 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:06.640 athletes just. Don't it's kind of an odd thing for. 1741 01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:09.039 Sure maybe you get traded To Salt Lake city and you, 1742 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.399 Decide i'm gonna go To Brazil i'm never coming. 1743 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:11.920 There there you. 1744 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.159 Go we'll get to the, lads, okay in a, Moment 1745 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:19.000 but before we get to the. Lads twitter discourse between 1746 01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:24.079 college football fans it you, know the the VISUAL i 1747 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:27.079 have are the monkeys throwing their feces at each other 1748 01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:29.359 at the. ZOO i, mean AND i don't program my 1749 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:32.359 show off of, it but you can't help but SEE 1750 01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:37.079 byu Fans utah, fens are you tampering with our? Players 1751 01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:39.119 are you trying to steal our? Players the transfer portal 1752 01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:43.319 in college football is chaotic every school across the landscape 1753 01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.960 of collegiate athletics and, football and in, basketball you're going 1754 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:48.239 to lose players no matter. What the days of us 1755 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.840 getting to Know Andre miller and getting to Know Britton 1756 01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:53.039 johnson and getting us to you, know getting to Know Alex, 1757 01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:54.479 smith three or four of your, players they're. 1758 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:58.039 Gone they just. Are that's a. Tribune how much does 1759 01:22:58.079 --> 01:22:58.760 this back. 1760 01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:02.079 And forth when it comes TO byu Football utah football 1761 01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:05.079 with keV phenomenal short, GAME i Guy jason on the other, 1762 01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:08.000 side your college football beat. Riders how much of this 1763 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.920 back and forth moves the, needle if at, ALL i think. 1764 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:13.640 It does move the needle AND i think, that you, 1765 01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.439 know the way we try to look at it is 1766 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:22.960 maybe not so much jumping into, uh into the cage 1767 01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.000 and you, know picking up our own faces and throwing. 1768 01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:27.239 IT i think we're trying to look at it as, 1769 01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:29.960 like can we provide some perspective here and maybe get 1770 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.760 to get to a. Truth, so you, know right, now 1771 01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.880 the back and forth On, twitter if you haven't been paying, 1772 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.319 attention is there are a lot of people out there 1773 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:43.399 that that accuse B yu of quote unquote, tampering you, 1774 01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:48.159 know and offering guys large nil packages to go. South 1775 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:53.760 hasn't really happened That i've, seen you know in This, 1776 01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:56.880 yeah the top was Miss snowden or somebody like, That, 1777 01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:02.279 right hasn't Happened Smiths noden reaffirms he's At. Utah you, 1778 01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:06.520 know maybe this is lingering from The tonavasa stuff or. 1779 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:11.119 WHATEVER i think my, preference very strong, preference is to 1780 01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.840 try to answer that and, say, like what is the? Truth, 1781 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.399 okay so here's here's a bunch of people talking about, it, 1782 01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:19.920 speculation here's a. Rumor can we get to the answer 1783 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.279 of what's really going? On and that's really like what 1784 01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:26.000 we would endeavor to. Do SO i think it can 1785 01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:30.079 shape and present interesting. QUESTIONS i think it very rarely 1786 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.960 gives the real, answer and to be, FAIR i always 1787 01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.479 put the. Disclaimer you, know you can ask for a 1788 01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:41.680 public records request to understand WHAT utah is doing, financially 1789 01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.920 but you can't do that WITH byu because of our private. 1790 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:48.319 Institution so it really is hard to know exactly what 1791 01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:50.000 the truth is with some of these financial. 1792 01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:52.239 Figures the on three group seems to be doing a 1793 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:55.680 lot of. Reporting Jeff, goodman who's a very well respected 1794 01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:58.840 college basketball, reporter did report that The Rob wright kid 1795 01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:02.279 From baylor a million dollar deal From baylor to stay, 1796 01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:04.640 there and THEN byu is paying him north of three 1797 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:08.000 million dollars to play in. Provo THE aj debantsa figure 1798 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.000 is seven million dollars for five months of. Basketball Richie 1799 01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.800 saunders comes back reportedly with a seven figure. Deal if 1800 01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.920 you just do loose, MATH Byu basketball is paying thirteen 1801 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:20.399 to fifteen million dollars ish for this roster that's coming 1802 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:22.199 back next. Year that's going to be. Awesome they're going 1803 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:24.600 to be a top five. Team my question to you, 1804 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.920 is why can't they just admit what they're? Doing why 1805 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.640 can't they just say what the truth is and stop 1806 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:32.880 telling us that we're not seeing what we're. Seeing we 1807 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.760 we you, know we hear these things Where Travis hansen, says, 1808 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.960 well we don't outbid, people we outlove, them we outdeveloped, 1809 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.359 them we out. Whatever the name of the game now 1810 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:45.800 is to have your nil in a place where you 1811 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:48.399 can pay players to come play for you so you attract. 1812 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:51.840 Talent it's not to outlove them or you, know THE 1813 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.960 byu experience or, whatever like why can't we just say 1814 01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:55.760 what's actually. 1815 01:25:55.760 --> 01:26:01.600 Happening what if your love language is money, fair then 1816 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:03.800 plan out love someone. 1817 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.800 Fair point fair. Point maybe that's the, Angle and SO i, mean, 1818 01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:10.600 YEAH i think BY u is in in a. 1819 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:14.880 It's just an interesting situation in that they have a 1820 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:17.600 mission that, is you, know very publicly stated that that's 1821 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.239 that's different than a lot of other, places and so 1822 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.960 it is hard to jump into the fray and fully 1823 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.560 embrace like, hey, yeah we've got a bag here for 1824 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.279 you and come play for. Us and it feels, mercenary 1825 01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:30.600 like we want you to be part of of you, 1826 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.520 know cougnation and we want you to be part of 1827 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.239 the mission and and all, that and SO i THINK 1828 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.479 i think that is, hard but like there's no shame 1829 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.199 in paying people what you think there, work no take 1830 01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:44.920 the victory leapt, sure there's no shame in, it, Right 1831 01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:47.199 and so, YEAH i THINK i think it's. 1832 01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:48.359 NEW i THINK i think it's. 1833 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:50.720 New AND i think you have a lot of people that, 1834 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:53.039 make you, know at high levels that make decisions FOR 1835 01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:57.159 buyu at large on both you, know academically and and 1836 01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:00.079 sort of you, know spiritual mission wise and and you, 1837 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.119 know athletics is only part of. That and so, YEAH 1838 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:05.159 i think you kind of make sure that people that 1839 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.439 have that don't have their minds wrapped around AND i 1840 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:08.880 l the way that you AND i, do the way 1841 01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:11.760 that a lot of fans now have come to who believe, 1842 01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:14.159 that you, know it just kind of sounds, gross like 1843 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:16.279 they're not there. Yet and SO i think part of 1844 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.239 it is probably making sure that the people that make 1845 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:22.239 those decisions higher up in the church and BYU's academic 1846 01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:23.560 side feel good about it. 1847 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.000 Too that's fair and some good perspective. There it just 1848 01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:31.399 comes across as so unauthentic and disingenuous when the reality 1849 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.760 of the situation is you are outbidding other schools for these, 1850 01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:37.920 players and there's nothing wrong with that so trying to 1851 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:40.840 spin the message to make it sound any other. WAY 1852 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:43.439 i don't understand what you're afraid. Of maybe it's, this 1853 01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.359 and we should be. Clear the church is not writing these. Checks, 1854 01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:50.319 Okay these are powerful boosters that contribute to The crimson 1855 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:53.239 or what do they call The Royal Blue, collective and you, 1856 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:55.680 KNOW Byu i've been told has at least nine and 1857 01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:58.720 maybe more at this point seven figure. Donors so it 1858 01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.079 is the boosters and the alumni that are paying for the. 1859 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:03.239 Players it's not the. Church maybe people are scared of 1860 01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:04.680 making you, know that kind of. 1861 01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:06.920 Line that's something that you see every, time like the 1862 01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:10.079 argument this is this is tithing or, whatever and so 1863 01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:12.399 they have to make sure that that gets that message gets. 1864 01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:14.239 Out this is not the church paying for, This this 1865 01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:16.840 is not your tithing, money because this is someone else's 1866 01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:19.560 decision to do this on behalf OF Byu. Athletics and, so, 1867 01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:22.800 yeah it is messy when you have that kind of you, know, 1868 01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:26.560 big big mission and stage goal and then you have 1869 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.279 this other thing that feels tangential to, it or you, 1870 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.600 know feels maybe dirty in the mind of somebody who 1871 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.960 wants it to be much more, pure focused on a single. 1872 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.359 Thing what's your understanding of where The university Of utah 1873 01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:41.920 is at right now with their ability to attract talent 1874 01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:44.760 and The Crimson collective where the nil stuff is at 1875 01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:45.159 you right? 1876 01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:48.159 Now, Yeah so what they've said is that they are 1877 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.880 prepared to go to the full twenty and a half 1878 01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:55.920 million of revenue sharing once The house settlement is. Finalized 1879 01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.760 i'm less clear on what that means in terms OF 1880 01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.119 i think a lot of people are going to be 1881 01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:06.520 at the full twenty and a half and then that's 1882 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.560 great and it's nice that the universe that a school 1883 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:11.399 can now do this, directly but you, know there's third 1884 01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:12.840 party AND i is still going to be on top of. 1885 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:14.720 That you, know it Doesn't this doesn't mean that you 1886 01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:16.600 And Ohio state are equal at twenty and a, half 1887 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.079 Right there's there's more money on top of. That So 1888 01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:23.000 i'm less clear on where that, is you, know BUT 1889 01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:25.800 i think they are, in you, know setting themselves up 1890 01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:26.880 to do. 1891 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.199 That we'll see how they do, that because. 1892 01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:30.319 You got to come up with twenty million dollars and 1893 01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.039 it's probably private, equity and you, know be curious how 1894 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:36.560 that looks once once that that. 1895 01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:40.000 Happens who Is Nate bench's favorite jazz player of all. 1896 01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:46.279 Time that is a great. QUESTION i feel LIKE i 1897 01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:48.359 feel like it's going to be Like Blue edwards or. 1898 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.359 Something but do you have an? Answer. 1899 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:53.560 No, well WHEN i WHEN i first Met, nate we 1900 01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:56.079 were playing golf together and we were going to draft 1901 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.600 a jazz team back and, forth AND i, said if 1902 01:29:58.600 --> 01:29:59.600 you had the first, pick who would you? 1903 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.319 Take and he said Armand. GILLIAN i knew. It The, 1904 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:03.319 Hammer The. Hammer. 1905 01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:05.760 Okay the Reason i'm asking this is the first person 1906 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.479 can text In Nate bench's favorite jazz PLAYER d eight 1907 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:10.239 seven seven three five three zero seven. 1908 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:12.800 Hundred we're giving you a free round of golf To Mount. 1909 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:16.039 Ogden, okay it's The festival Of teas presented by our 1910 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.800 friends at THE. Uga so we'll give you A pga 1911 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.880 tour update coming. Up but first person Contexted Nate bench's 1912 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:22.439 favorite jazz. 1913 01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:24.279 Player we're gonna send you to golf for. Free all. 1914 01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:26.479 Right BEFORE i set you, Loose i'm gonna ask you 1915 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:30.199 a two PART rsl. Question part one is your thoughts 1916 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.359 on you AND i have spoken about. This we were 1917 01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:34.239 able to sit with The millers for a while the 1918 01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:36.640 day before their announcement that they have purchased the controlling 1919 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:39.760 stake OF. Rsl so your thoughts on the ownership transition 1920 01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:44.359 OF rsl and what they did. Do AND i have 1921 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:46.800 decided to name Him Big Willie. Goals so we Got, 1922 01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:48.800 willie you got. It we Got Johnny russell across the. 1923 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.319 Line so your thoughts on what they did do during 1924 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:53.800 the primary transfer window and maybe more, importantly what they 1925 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:55.520 did not. Do so BEFORE i set you, loose your 1926 01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:56.239 thoughts on all THINGS. 1927 01:30:56.399 --> 01:31:00.920 Rsl, yeah you, know incomplete grades AND. 1928 01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.039 TBD i, mean you KNOW I I i understand the 1929 01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:07.199 frustration to start with the second. Half, FIRST i understand 1930 01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:10.319 the frustration that you know you don't have a star 1931 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.640 striker at this point after selling off the guy who 1932 01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:15.800 looked very much like a star striker at least for 1933 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:21.239 the first half of last. Year AND i completely understand the. Frustration, 1934 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.720 however you, KNOW i. DON'T i don't know anything about 1935 01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:31.840 our Friend. BOSNIK i. DON'T i couldn't tell. You but, 1936 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:34.560 hey you tried and through no fault of your, own, 1937 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:38.159 fails SO i can't really hold that against. You, maybe 1938 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.239 given how complex it is to get across the line 1939 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.119 on these, things you got to have four that are 1940 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.000 close and you you get to that. Situation but it 1941 01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:48.399 sounds like they got done dirty on that, one and so, 1942 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:54.680 hey you, know gotta gotta try. Again Johnny, russell once 1943 01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.159 a great, player now seems like a great. 1944 01:31:57.159 --> 01:31:59.079 Guy we'll see how that. 1945 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.960 Works and That god gives you at least something because 1946 01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:05.319 they didn't have you, Know forser was not the. Answer, 1947 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.439 no it was not so incomplete in terms of The 1948 01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:15.319 miller's you, KNOW i think that they are not the 1949 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:17.600 splashiest and flashiest of. 1950 01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:18.279 Owners. 1951 01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:19.880 Right they're not going to go, In they're not not 1952 01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.479 going to heere to lure whoever the next Great european 1953 01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:25.880 is and spend a bunch of money to do. It 1954 01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:28.840 they're always going to you, know be smart with with 1955 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.479 their money and see where they can you, know maximize some. 1956 01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:35.439 Things that being, said you, KNOW i mean we talked 1957 01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:37.000 about being. Spoiled have they? 1958 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.439 Did they really have bad teams, ever you, know for 1959 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:42.039 a long period of. Time SO i, think, yeah maybe 1960 01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:47.199 maybe you feel c b about about, it BUT i 1961 01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.279 do think you're gonna have a good product for for 1962 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:49.880 a long period of. 1963 01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:51.079 TIME i do think that will be important to. 1964 01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:52.840 Them, NO i, agree well, said and you don't have 1965 01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:55.760 to SPEND nba money ON mls, teams you, know so 1966 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:56.960 we'll see how it. 1967 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:57.199 Goes. 1968 01:32:57.239 --> 01:32:59.439 Well look great to see you. Up subscribe to the. 1969 01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:00.920 Trip what do you want to tell our listeners about 1970 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:01.640 what we got going to the? 1971 01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:02.359 Troop? YEAH i. 1972 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.600 Know thank you for everybody that Reads bell, Stuff kevin, 1973 01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:09.800 Stuff jason, Stuff andy, Stuff gordon, stuff mesltrip dot, Com 1974 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:11.840 like and, subscribe shout out neat. 1975 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.000 Bench love it. Man great to see what we'll see His. 1976 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.760 Saturday, okay Absolutely Aaron, falk the editor of the sports 1977 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.920 section of The Sali Lake. Tribune special thanks To Aaron, 1978 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.039 falk the editor of the sports section from the Salid, 1979 01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:26.439 tribunes for his time today live in studio for an entire. 1980 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:29.800 Hour get back to some of MY nba playoff conversation 1981 01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:32.239 and we'll do some college football transfer portal in the 1982 01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:34.920 five o'clock. Hour But Real Salt lake took all three 1983 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:38.199 points on the road Against San diego and the road, 1984 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.119 continues taking On vancouver coming up On. 1985 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:44.399 Saturday next, guest the head coach OF rsl on. 1986 01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:48.000 A thursday, Afternoon Pablo, Master, Wendy Happy, thursday, Buddy how. 1987 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:48.359 We doing. 1988 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:50.039 Doing? 1989 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:50.279 Great? 1990 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:52.680 BUDS i got to ask you the question that everybody is. 1991 01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:55.640 Asking is it fair to say THAT i must be 1992 01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:57.960 a good luck charm being In San diego watching you 1993 01:33:58.000 --> 01:33:58.640 pick up all three. 1994 01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:03.039 Points YOU i need to invite you in the locker. 1995 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.720 Room it hatime if you if you so, choose you're 1996 01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:07.199 a good Luck. 1997 01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:09.359 John, well you didn't need, it, buddy you didn't need. 1998 01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:12.560 IT a brace For Diego, sam who joined the show 1999 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:15.600 this week with a wonder. Strike after watching the tape 2000 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:17.520 and digesting what you guys, did what'd you like the? 2001 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:20.399 MOST a little bit of? 2002 01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.680 Everything you, KNOW i think we are opportunittunistic with our, 2003 01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:27.159 chances something that we haven't been this. Year diego getting 2004 01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:30.840 in good, Positions diego getting in good, positions but more 2005 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:35.840 importantly just capitalizing our, chances and Obviously sam's great goal from, 2006 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:38.600 distance and the other part, too is just building on 2007 01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.199 our you, know defensive performances of the last few. WEEKS 2008 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:44.159 i thought was really important against a really dynamic team 2009 01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:47.239 in the Way San diego, ATTACKS i thought we did 2010 01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:51.319 a great job minimizing their opportunities and then competing in 2011 01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:52.960 the right. Way you, know we're a way from you 2012 01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.680 were in the. Stadium it was it was quite the hostile. 2013 01:34:55.760 --> 01:35:00.439 Environment but the way we competed in someone else HOME 2014 01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:03.199 i thought was Fantastic and in the, END i think 2015 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:04.800 it was a little bit of everything that kind of 2016 01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:05.880 pulled us through for the. 2017 01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:08.319 Victory what are you able to take from that game 2018 01:35:08.359 --> 01:35:11.119 to build, upon because, again the start of the season 2019 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:14.199 from a macro, standpoint has been up and. Down that's 2020 01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:16.239 kind of how it. Goes but there's no use in looking. 2021 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.600 Back that's kind of not exercise and. Futility so what 2022 01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:21.520 would you like your group and what have you told? Them, 2023 01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:25.119 okay we can build upon that to take this form moving. 2024 01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:28.760 Forward, Yeah LIKE i, said you, KNOW i think in 2025 01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:32.279 The nashville and The toronto, games we did play some good. 2026 01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:35.359 Stuff we didn't get the. Results and it's sometimes hard 2027 01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:37.800 from a coaching perspective to keep the guys, focused you, 2028 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:40.880 know because everyone always just talks about the. Results but as, 2029 01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:42.920 coaches you, know we see the work that's being, done 2030 01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:47.000 we see the changes being, made and and you, KNOW 2031 01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:48.760 i think you have to have a complete performance and 2032 01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:52.359 to help with the referees at times and in getting. 2033 01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:56.039 Results and SO i, think you, know we're we're we're 2034 01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:58.159 on a good. PATH i think we need to stay the, 2035 01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:00.159 course you, know one of the things that we've really move, 2036 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:02.520 on and you, know it's been a little bit of 2037 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:05.239 a tactical, adjustment but also the players buy and was you, 2038 01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:08.920 know not spreading ourselves defensively and not getting behind the score, 2039 01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:12.720 line and you, know you, know when we've, won we've 2040 01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:14.319 done a really good job of. That so now we're 2041 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:18.880 going Into vancouver, again best team in the league at the, 2042 01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:21.359 moment and we just got to continue to do what 2043 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:23.560 we do really, well which is defend, well but more 2044 01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:26.720 importantly take our chances when they when they you, know show. 2045 01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:29.000 Themselves SO i stepped in and listened to a bit 2046 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.840 of the media you did via zoom after the, game 2047 01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:33.840 and you said SOMETHING i really. Like, now to be, 2048 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.119 Fair diego's only twenty one years, old so it's not 2049 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:40.600 like he's fully, Bigud it's not like he's fully. Formed 2050 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:44.199 there's plenty of, improvement and there's plenty of there's plenty 2051 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:46.560 of advancement and development still left ahead at the age 2052 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:48.640 of twenty. One BUT i like that you said it 2053 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.439 might be time to stop talking about how is he 2054 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:55.520 developing and just who he is as this superstar player IN. 2055 01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:58.920 Mls so what do you like most about what you 2056 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.479 continue to see from this kid who start continues to. 2057 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:06.239 Rise you, know it's it's so interesting for me Because 2058 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.359 i'm always feeling these questions about his, development and you'd 2059 01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:12.279 associate that with. Age but the one thing About dago 2060 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.800 is that he does not care what anyone. Thinks and 2061 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:20.960 he goes out and he plays his. Game you, know 2062 01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:23.640 sometimes you get stuck in this like world of, well 2063 01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:25.439 the coach wants me to do, this and he wants 2064 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:27.239 me to do. That you, KNOW i think greatness is 2065 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.680 found in between. Everything it's it's not what the coach, 2066 01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.319 says because the coach is speaking to, everyone, Right so 2067 01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:34.640 how are you going to be great if you just 2068 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:38.960 do what everyone? Does and he finds the fine line 2069 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.560 of not losing who he is as a person and 2070 01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:46.159 playing with the chip on his shoulder and then being 2071 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.680 a creator on the field and playing between the. Lines 2072 01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:50.439 you know that first goal that he that he, scores 2073 01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:53.920 the tactical party did. Great he followed their deep line 2074 01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.560 and midfield across the. Field what he did on his 2075 01:37:56.640 --> 01:37:58.520 own was play camp and mouse with the ball, carrier 2076 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:00.319 which Was i'm gonna act Like i'm gonna keep going 2077 01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:01.880 with him and then when you pass, It i'm gonna 2078 01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:04.199 jump the passing. Light i'm gonna steal. It and then 2079 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:06.680 what he does from there from there is just Classic, 2080 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.680 diego which is like take on two, defenders wait for 2081 01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:11.479 a gap to, open and fire a. Shot you. Know 2082 01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.119 so like that's WHAT i love About diego and and 2083 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:16.560 and that's Why i'm, saying you, know because everything THAT 2084 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:19.199 i want with this group is. PERSONALITY i want you 2085 01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:20.720 to be who you, are AND i want you to 2086 01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:24.239 be Like i'm going to color outside the lines because 2087 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:25.760 that's the WAY i see the world and that's WHAT 2088 01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:27.479 i want to, be and that's what that's what's going 2089 01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:31.199 to win. Games and so the more authentic the players 2090 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.560 can be who they are obviously within the game, model 2091 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:37.039 but the game model will always. Change AND i always 2092 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:39.399 tell the, players, like if you see something, different do. 2093 01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:41.399 It we'll talk about it later if it doesn't work. 2094 01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:43.479 Out but but more times than not ends up working 2095 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:45.760 out because you believe in what you're doing outside the. 2096 01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:49.439 Line and SO i think That's diego's, greatest you, know 2097 01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:51.880 asset to the team at the moment is that he 2098 01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:55.520 doesn't worry about the. Results he doesn't worry about This 2099 01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:57.960 he just goes out and he plays the game, like you, 2100 01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:01.760 know like a young player, would which is not having any, 2101 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:04.319 fears not being, jaded not thinking about. This he just 2102 01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:07.079 goes out and plays and you can see the authenticity 2103 01:39:07.079 --> 01:39:09.199 in his game when he steps on the. Field AND 2104 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:11.159 i want more of the guys in the group to 2105 01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:14.800 be almost that cavalier and in the way they approach the. 2106 01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:17.279 Game you, know you don't have to be a soccer 2107 01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:20.760 expert or a basketball, expert or a football, expert or 2108 01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:22.920 even a golf. EXPERT i, mean if you watch golf 2109 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:25.399 and you Watch Scotty, scheffler you're, like that dude's, different, 2110 01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:29.199 Right and it seems Like diego pops every TIME i 2111 01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:31.680 watch you guys. Play it just seems like he's among 2112 01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.560 the best, players if not the best player on the. 2113 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:37.159 Field every TIME i watch you guys. PLAY i wanted 2114 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:38.920 to ask you today because we do this thing in 2115 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.680 media where we do cops like this player reminds me 2116 01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:45.000 of that? Player Does diego remind you of anybody that 2117 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:47.319 maybe you played with or played, against or you've watched 2118 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:49.439 as far as who he is and how good he can. 2119 01:39:49.479 --> 01:39:54.479 Be that's a good, question you, know it's hard to, 2120 01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:57.520 say BECAUSE i think he's very. Unique you. Know the, 2121 01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:01.239 way you, know is the is physicality in the, game 2122 01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:04.600 his technical ability, game his dogged. DETERMINATION i, mean he's 2123 01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:07.680 got the determination of like a ball winning, pivot like 2124 01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:09.640 that's the way he approaches the. Game but now he's 2125 01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:13.359 got the quality of like A Hobby, morales you, know 2126 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:18.239 and and the you, know the youthfulness of a Young Wayne. 2127 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:20.520 Rooney like so he's got so many different parts of 2128 01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:22.159 his game that are so. UNIQUE i don't think he 2129 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:24.960 reminds it of any one player because the way he 2130 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.039 gets after it on both sides of the ball for an, 2131 01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.800 attacking creative player is so, unique AND i think that's 2132 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:31.319 what makes him. 2133 01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:32.239 Special you. 2134 01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:35.279 KNOW i have the opportunity to meet With miguel one Of, 2135 01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:38.800 pochattino THE us inter national team's assistant, coaches and we 2136 01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:40.680 spend some time with, him and he says he plays 2137 01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:44.039 with big stones like this guy's you, know he's got 2138 01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.439 this you, know this hunger for the game that is 2139 01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:49.840 like when the rest of the team is, flat he's, 2140 01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.880 popping you. Know and SO i think he's a very 2141 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:57.680 unique player and has a very unique. Background great student 2142 01:40:57.720 --> 01:40:59.880 of the. Game but but everything he does is with 2143 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:02.800 one hundred percent, conviction AND i think any coach in 2144 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:04.439 whatever sport would love the player like. 2145 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:07.520 Him you referenced Who diego is as a, person AND 2146 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:08.760 i don't know him the way you. 2147 01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:10.039 Do i've been able. 2148 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:11.960 To meet him on several, Occasions we've had him on 2149 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:15.920 the show multiple. TIMES i wonder as his star rises 2150 01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:20.600 because and sometimes And i'm not calling any individual, out 2151 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:24.880 BUT i think at, times when there's a superstar who's scoring, 2152 01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:28.640 goals who's receiving, attention who's being called up to the national. 2153 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:30.880 Team he won The Utah Male athlete of The, year 2154 01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:34.680 his star is clearly. Rising are you seeing any change 2155 01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:37.159 to who he is as a. Person are there any 2156 01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:39.840 concerns about him believing that his star is bigger than the? 2157 01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.439 Rest, no you. 2158 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.560 Know because you, KNOW i meet With diego once a. 2159 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:47.760 Week we talk, about you, know a lot of different, 2160 01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:50.319 things and one of them a few weeks, backs were 2161 01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:53.600 his non verbals and how that affects. Teammates, Right and 2162 01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:57.520 so the one thing About diego is that he's a forever. 2163 01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.359 Student he's a, learner. Right he wants to get, better 2164 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:03.800 and he sees the growth in his game by people 2165 01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:07.640 calling out stuff that isn't in his best interest moving, 2166 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:10.239 forward you. Know so you, know you ask me about, 2167 01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:12.239 DEVELOPMENT i would say that's the one thing he. Is 2168 01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.439 he's a forever learner and and that's the GREATEST i 2169 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.239 think ass that you can have as a human, being 2170 01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:21.399 let alone a soccer. Player so there's there's nothing because, 2171 01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:23.600 again when we when we train, defending he's all. In 2172 01:42:23.720 --> 01:42:26.279 when we train both sides of the, ball he's all. 2173 01:42:26.319 --> 01:42:29.079 In and to be, fair he's one of the. Guys 2174 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.279 his personality is so unique where he's one of the 2175 01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:34.319 guys that even at his, younger younger, age he is 2176 01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:36.560 such a winner that he starts calling out his teammates 2177 01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:40.000 to be. Sharp and you, know we don't get that 2178 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:42.239 a lot from a lot of the older. Guys everyone 2179 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:44.560 just is happy doing their own job and just really 2180 01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:47.680 focuses on his job when he's the guy calling guys. 2181 01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.600 Out because now he's got a taste of the national 2182 01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:52.840 team and he knows what the level of expectations are 2183 01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:55.039 for him when he goes into that, camp and he 2184 01:42:55.079 --> 01:42:58.279 brings a lot of that same energy. Back SO i would, 2185 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.359 say you, know we we work with him at week 2186 01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.720 on a lot of different. Things more, importantly he works with, us, 2187 01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:07.560 Right he brings his clips in and does a lot 2188 01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:11.000 of his work and so you, know it's just for. 2189 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:14.079 Me it's not a surprise that he's rising as fast 2190 01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:15.760 as he, is because he's the guy that's willing to 2191 01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:18.960 be as vulnerable as anyone and understand that he's got 2192 01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.600 a ways to. Go but in the, process he's being authentic, 2193 01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:21.960 too he. 2194 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:25.159 Is are you you referenced this the work, Rate AND 2195 01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:26.920 i don't know if it was last year the year. 2196 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:29.800 BEFORE i think there may have been a little bit 2197 01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:33.239 of frustration, about you, know not tracking back and not 2198 01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:36.760 doing what he needs to do because the natural tendency 2199 01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:39.439 of a fan is to watch the. Ball you watch 2200 01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:41.960 the touchdown, pass you watch the three point, shot you 2201 01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.960 watch the, dunk you watch the, goal and you know 2202 01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.720 the goal was so, dynamic like the things he does 2203 01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:48.960 that create at. 2204 01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:50.520 Tension are so jaw. 2205 01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:53.319 Dropping are you getting what you need from him in 2206 01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:54.720 the moments that aren't as. 2207 01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:58.600 Obvious, absolutely you. Know AND i think for, me you, 2208 01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:01.319 know having played WHERE i, play the weak side of 2209 01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:04.800 the field or wherever the camera is not becomes the 2210 01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:06.920 most important part of the. Field just give it a 2211 01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:09.439 couple of seconds, right so as the camera span you, 2212 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:14.039 know comes across the field from left, right there's a 2213 01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:17.159 really important decision to be. Made and so like you, 2214 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:20.159 know these are these are the, areas the black areas 2215 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:22.479 of the field where you don't you're not privy to 2216 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:25.079 at the moment that are super. Critical and he does 2217 01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.439 such a great job up front from, defending for, example 2218 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.560 of communicating With ari and the midfielders and getting them 2219 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:33.319 in good position so that we can win the ball. 2220 01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:36.600 Back and so he's doing a great job on you, know, 2221 01:44:36.760 --> 01:44:40.479 effort commitment and also you, know help leading the team 2222 01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:43.439 in those moments that that most people aren't even privy. 2223 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:47.079 To is there any concern that there's too much weight 2224 01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:49.279 on his? SHOULDERS i, mean he certainly is up to the, 2225 01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:53.039 task but it oftentimes it feels like If diego doesn't 2226 01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:55.439 create the opportunity or if he doesn't score the, goal 2227 01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:58.239 where's it coming? From any concern that you're putting too 2228 01:44:58.279 --> 01:44:59.279 much on this twenty one year? 2229 01:44:59.279 --> 01:45:02.319 Old, yeah, NO i think that's a great. Question and 2230 01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:05.640 and and you, know, obviously as as you referenced, earlier you, 2231 01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:07.840 know you, know a twenty one year old doesn't have 2232 01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:12.399 the life experience that that an older person. Would so 2233 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:14.880 there's definitely gonna be moments where we're gonna have to 2234 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:16.560 reset and we're gonna have to go at it. Again 2235 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:19.800 but BUT i also know with younger players is when 2236 01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:23.239 they're living in a good, moment you have to you 2237 01:45:23.239 --> 01:45:25.680 you got to take it like there's no, hey you 2238 01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.840 got to temper it because you, know if it goes too, 2239 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:32.319 well then you know you might. Fall like you've got 2240 01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:34.199 to step on it and you've got to, go, hey 2241 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.920 if you're the, guy you're the. Guy let's. Go because you, 2242 01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:39.960 know from a team's, perspective to your point is If 2243 01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.000 diego is not doing, that but then who's going to do, 2244 01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:44.840 that who's going to take the who's going to take the? 2245 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.880 Baton and there's there's a few players that are capable 2246 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:50.600 of doing, it but we're still kind of waiting for 2247 01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:52.520 that moment to come. Through so the MORE i think, 2248 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:55.600 that you, know we we we highlight What diego is. 2249 01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:59.319 Doing and, again he's a player that wants the. Responsibility 2250 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.920 he's not, scared but like this is what's this is 2251 01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:03.960 what he's been living the last few. Years and so 2252 01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:07.159 the idea for us is, like, well if he's the, 2253 01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:10.720 guy regardless of his. Age let's keep him. Forefront you. 2254 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:13.079 KNOW i made a, note you, know On, wednesday And i'm, 2255 01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:17.039 saying the reason Why diego's improving and getting better and 2256 01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:18.680 leading the group of the ways is because he's not 2257 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:21.840 worried about what other people. Think he's just worried about getting. 2258 01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:23.960 Better and the more of us that can do, that 2259 01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:26.359 whether you're a coach or a, player we're all going 2260 01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:28.520 to be a better. Team so let's challenge. Ourselves let's 2261 01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:31.239 hold ourselves to really high, expectations and let's not care 2262 01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:33.119 what anyone else, thinks because if we all do, this 2263 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:35.680 we're going to be in a position of receiving a 2264 01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:37.319 lot of. Praise SO i. 2265 01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:38.279 May have shared this with you. 2266 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.760 ANECDOTALLY i can remember back IN i don't, know maybe 2267 01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:45.239 two thousand and, seven two thousand and, eight there was 2268 01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:48.840 a game out At Rio tinto Where Kyle Kyle beckerman 2269 01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:51.479 hit one of His we used to call Them becker, 2270 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:55.319 bombs are like these thirty yard, strikes and whenever he 2271 01:46:55.319 --> 01:46:56.880 would score one of those, goals and they were just 2272 01:46:56.920 --> 01:46:59.199 one of those stunning. Moments AND i Had, jason who 2273 01:46:59.279 --> 01:47:01.000 was the coach at the, Time i'm on the postgame, 2274 01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:03.199 show AND i, Said, Jas i'm gonna do your. Favor 2275 01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:05.600 i've got an. Idea kyle needs to play. Striker put 2276 01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:06.960 him up, top you, know just go, ahead and you're, 2277 01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:08.840 like there you. Go you're, Welcome, Jay and he gave 2278 01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:11.039 me this look that he wanted, to you, know strangle, 2279 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.960 me but he, said he, said, look If kyle embraces 2280 01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:16.359 what we're asking him to, do he will play in 2281 01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:19.279 A World, cup which was pretty striking and obviously very. 2282 01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:22.399 Telling and so from then on, OUT i started to 2283 01:47:22.439 --> 01:47:25.840 pay more attention to the Way kyle dominated the field 2284 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.960 in his role in that, space because going back to the, whole, 2285 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.760 like the obvious things are the. Goals the obvious things 2286 01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:34.439 are the, moments and so that's allowed me to color 2287 01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:37.800 my perspective on that. Position AND i Thought ameca was 2288 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.720 awesome Against San, diego you, know but not as obvious 2289 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:44.479 because he didn't. Score what stands kind of same, Question 2290 01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:46.319 what is standing out most to you about the way 2291 01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:49.079 A mecca has embraced this role and is there a 2292 01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:50.119 LITTLE kb five in? 2293 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:54.119 Him, yeah, no you're absolutely. Right the way he took 2294 01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:57.239 the game over in a way That mecha can take 2295 01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:00.720 the game, over which is linking short, passes is controlling 2296 01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:04.000 the game with the ball always being. Available he had 2297 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.359 a crunching tackle in the middle of midfield to help 2298 01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:10.000 us retain, possession which helped us continue with our momentum 2299 01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:11.840 in that attack and third of the field like he 2300 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:13.840 was just it looked like there's Three mechas on the. 2301 01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:16.279 FIELD i, mean he was. Everywhere AND i think those 2302 01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:20.800 games as a deep lying midfielder Like beckerman are are you, 2303 01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:23.439 know like as, coaches we see that that's that's the, 2304 01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:25.880 uh that's the engine, room, right that's the room that 2305 01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:28.640 has to go and and it inspires a team with. 2306 01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:31.560 Belief it keeps everyone connected because you're in the middle 2307 01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:33.479 of the field and you're connected to the wide players 2308 01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:35.119 and the guys up, front the guys in the. Back 2309 01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.479 and SO i think that was the best AND i 2310 01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:38.680 told them back up for the, game that was the 2311 01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:41.600 best forty five minutes of football That i've SEEN i 2312 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.840 could play, in particularly in the second half where he 2313 01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:47.880 was world. Class it wasn't like best in THE. Mls 2314 01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:52.239 he Was i've played against world class defensive. Antilliers what 2315 01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:55.760 he did in that second half was was an unbelievable, 2316 01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:58.119 standard and so my challenge to him, was let's see 2317 01:48:58.119 --> 01:48:59.920 that again next week against the best team in. 2318 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:01.479 Leagues does he Have? 2319 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:04.319 WELL i kind of ask you about his personality the 2320 01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:06.239 same way That i'll ask you About. DIEGO i, mean 2321 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:07.920 A meca has been on the show a, bunch and 2322 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:09.840 the first thing that stands out is just simply how 2323 01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:12.680 smart he is and how well spoken he is and 2324 01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:15.479 measured he is with his. Answers as far as his, 2325 01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:17.399 Personality i'll ask you kind of the same THING i 2326 01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.359 asked you About. Diego what sort of makes him tick 2327 01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:22.800 as a teammate and as a leader as opposed to a, 2328 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:23.359 great great. 2329 01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:27.560 Midfielder, YEAH i think There's it's really interesting with The 2330 01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:29.880 mecca because he is a really bright human, being AND 2331 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:32.720 i think when you're a smart, person you tend to 2332 01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:35.520 overthink a lot of, things where you, Know diego was 2333 01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:38.319 a smart, guy but he operates the more from the, 2334 01:49:38.399 --> 01:49:41.720 heart and A mecca is really a. Thinker and so 2335 01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.199 one of the things that we're talking through is how 2336 01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:47.439 to let go of that like overthinking piece and just 2337 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:49.399 operate from a place of. Flow you, KNOW i know 2338 01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:51.039 you've heard that in sport and all the sports when 2339 01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:55.319 you're in the. Zone there's there's no thinking, involved you're 2340 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:59.000 operating on. Autopilot you're just. Instinctual AND i think that 2341 01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:01.800 performance that he had a weekend was very much an instinctial, 2342 01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:03.960 performance because there's no way you can think your way 2343 01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:07.920 to so, many so many, plays and so that's that's 2344 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:10.479 what we're working with The mecca. With as far as you, 2345 01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.000 know lead from a place of what you know and 2346 01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.800 what you're. Learning don't worry about having all the, answers 2347 01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:17.560 because you're not going to have them. All but the 2348 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:21.560 more you can provide performances like, that the leadership piece 2349 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:25.359 just comes naturally because because you will believe, more your 2350 01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:28.520 teammates will believe. More and so he's you, know he's 2351 01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:31.600 a fantastic, teammate a fantastic, player and when we have 2352 01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:33.880 performances like we had it from him at the, WEEKEND 2353 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:35.840 i feel like we can we can be in the 2354 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:36.239 team this. 2355 01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:38.520 League as the head, coach your job is to coach 2356 01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:38.760 all the. 2357 01:50:38.800 --> 01:50:42.119 PLAYERS i wonder if you have a unique ability to 2358 01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:45.560 coach a mecca because you played that position at the 2359 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:45.920 highest of. 2360 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:50.520 Levels that's, interesting that's a great question for A, mecca 2361 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:53.600 AND i guarantee you he's going to say he's harder 2362 01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:55.920 on less pivots than he is with any other position 2363 01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:59.279 on the. Field AND i constantly have to check, Myself, 2364 01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:01.920 spence BECAUSE i finished playing the game WHEN i was 2365 01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:03.600 thirty eight years, old so you can IMAGINE i have 2366 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:06.479 a ton of. EXPERIENCE i just couldn't move. Anymore and 2367 01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:10.319 SO i don't remember at what stage in my CAREER 2368 01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:12.880 i was WHEN i learned these things That i'm trying 2369 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.199 to teach these, guys you, know because one of the 2370 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:20.399 things That i've come to realize is that younger, players 2371 01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:25.279 they almost play the game with the you, know those 2372 01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:27.359 things that the horses wear where they cover their their 2373 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.159 peripheral so that they can look forward to. That they 2374 01:51:30.279 --> 01:51:32.079 come into the league with those things. On and as 2375 01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.439 you gain more, experience and then you watch a guy 2376 01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:37.239 Like messi who looks like he has eyes in the 2377 01:51:37.239 --> 01:51:39.359 back of his head because he's always. Scanning he knows 2378 01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:41.920 exactly where he is relative to the opponent and the, 2379 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.680 ball and he seems like he is just like floating 2380 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:47.399 through the. Field and so like some of these, Things 2381 01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:50.279 I'm i'm you, Know i'm being hard on not being, 2382 01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:53.760 hard but just high expectations for A mecca of high 2383 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.199 expectations For Briana hayden and the rest of The pivot 2384 01:51:56.199 --> 01:52:00.800 crew because it is so critical the. Game once those 2385 01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:04.359 those blockers come, off this game is so, easy but 2386 01:52:04.439 --> 01:52:07.479 it's so hard to get to the point where you 2387 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.960 have three hundred and sixty degree vision and you know 2388 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:12.000 exactly what you're gonna do before you get the. Ball 2389 01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:15.000 and once you start doing, that then then the whole 2390 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:16.920 world is your. Oyster AND i think A mecca is 2391 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:19.079 getting better every single. Day you, know this is only 2392 01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:21.159 his third year as a, professional and so hope you 2393 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:22.840 asked me when he, started would he'd be where he's, 2394 01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.760 AT i would have. Laughed but he keeps, on you, 2395 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:30.079 know coming up trumps and doing things that PROBABLY i 2396 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:31.800 didn't do TILL i was in my mid. Thirties and 2397 01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.920 So i'm constantly having to check. Myself but he's again 2398 01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:36.960 a great. Student he takes, it he digests, it and he. 2399 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.840 Produces do any of your players know what a good 2400 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:40.239 player you? 2401 01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:40.439 Were? 2402 01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:42.159 Are are we all just too old at this? Point? 2403 01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.800 Yeah we're too. Old, YEAH i don't go back, there you, 2404 01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:52.680 know it's It's i've thought about that just a quick. 2405 01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:56.920 STORY i finished my career IN la and SO i 2406 01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:58.520 was in a different, place so a lot of people 2407 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.840 didn't know WHO i was From Anela galley. Perspective BUT 2408 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:05.840 i remember there's a there's an ex national team teammate 2409 01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:07.840 that was working there and he, Goes, PABLO i have 2410 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:11.000 to introduce use it to our under eighteen, team and 2411 01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:13.560 uh SO i was, like, okay, Yeah i'll inter your. 2412 01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:17.119 Sceon he, goes, guys who COOL i have? Here and 2413 01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:19.479 they are looking, around, like who who is? It who 2414 01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.880 is this? Guy and that's THAT i was only, whatever, 2415 01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.239 like you, know five years removed from the national. Team 2416 01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:26.880 so imagine now whatever it is years, later they, guys 2417 01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:29.359 don't these guys have to look at the archives to 2418 01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:31.119 find a snapshot of WHEN i. 2419 01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:34.600 Played oh, well you know that's why YouTube, exists, brother you. 2420 01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:37.279 Know So i've sent him to some. Highlights all, right 2421 01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:39.640 let's move over to. This we saw twenty three minutes 2422 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:42.600 From willie and, look it's gonna take some time for 2423 01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:45.680 him to acclimate understand what you guys want him to. 2424 01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:47.239 Do SO WILLI i gotta one of your new. 2425 01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.920 Additions what did you see from him in the limited 2426 01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:52.159 minutes Against San diego and shed some light on how 2427 01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:53.039 it's been to have him on the. 2428 01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:56.880 Ground, yeah so, AGAIN i, think you, know he came 2429 01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.199 into the game AND i think the biggest Thing spence 2430 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:01.439 was there's there's a couple of balls played into him 2431 01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:04.760 at like chest high or you, know waist, high and 2432 01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:06.800 he was able to bring those, down control the ball 2433 01:54:06.840 --> 01:54:08.720 and bring our pivots into the. Game AND i think 2434 01:54:09.479 --> 01:54:13.760 this just that aspect of the game from just an 2435 01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:16.399 attacking perspective was huge for the group and you just 2436 01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:18.960 saw the confidence and the group kind of grow when 2437 01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:20.800 he came on to the field and did just. That 2438 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:23.039 he had a good chance of you, know inside the 2439 01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:25.119 box that he put over the. Bar but, again getting 2440 01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:28.800 the game that spot is really really. Important and the 2441 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:31.640 one thing With willie that we're working with him is 2442 01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:34.720 level of. Fitness he only had about ninety minutes over 2443 01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:38.840 nine games before he came in and played thirty plus 2444 01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:42.680 minutes for, us and this, week, unfortunately he didn't have 2445 01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:44.319 a lot of training. Time he went back home to 2446 01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:48.079 grab his stuff to move and so we only got. 2447 01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:51.439 Him he only showed up today for the first day 2448 01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:53.760 we're working with. Him he had a workout yesterday on the. 2449 01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:55.720 Treadmill he worked out today with the group and then 2450 01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:58.720 did some extra. Running so for, us it's nothing more 2451 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:02.760 than what will he feels comfortable giving at the level 2452 01:55:02.800 --> 01:55:05.399 that we need him to play. At and so AGAIN 2453 01:55:05.479 --> 01:55:09.680 i think a similar type timeframe as far as minutes this, 2454 01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:12.600 weekend maybe a little bit more depending on how he. 2455 01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:17.000 Feels and so just really you, know Using willy's perspective 2456 01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:19.159 as a guide as to how much he. Plays and 2457 01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:23.079 then unfortunately we had a setback With Johnny russell after 2458 01:55:23.079 --> 01:55:25.800 a training session On. Tuesday it looks to be, minor 2459 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:29.279 but won't be available for this. Weekend and it's something 2460 01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:32.039 that we kind of already kind of baked in because 2461 01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:34.600 he hadn't trained with the team in four plus, months 2462 01:55:35.239 --> 01:55:36.520 but who was doing a lot of stuff on his 2463 01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:39.399 own and came in super. Fit but the biggest thing 2464 01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:42.680 with soccer is that it's one thing to have controlled 2465 01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:45.800 environments and controlled. Actions so you're running on, treadmill you're 2466 01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:48.159 running on your, own you're in the. Gym it's another 2467 01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:50.319 thing when the ball's bouncing and guys are bouncing into 2468 01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:53.840 you and all those, little you, know supportive muscles that 2469 01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:57.239 are activated when you're playing soccer that you don't activate 2470 01:55:57.279 --> 01:55:59.520 when you're training on your. Own so hopefully it's a, 2471 01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:03.840 week maybe a couple of. Days but really excited to 2472 01:56:03.880 --> 01:56:05.840 really integrate these guys BECAUSE i think they're gonna make 2473 01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:06.720 a huge difference to our. 2474 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:08.640 Group had a chance to sit With johnny for a 2475 01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:13.960 minute watching the, game and his intensity just it wafts 2476 01:56:14.119 --> 01:56:16.760 off of. Him AND i don't use the term wafted very, Often, 2477 01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:20.039 pablo but like you can just sense when you're around, 2478 01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:22.239 him like this dude wants to like he's ready to. 2479 01:56:22.279 --> 01:56:25.079 Go you can tell he's chomping at the. Bill, yeah, Yeah, 2480 01:56:25.239 --> 01:56:26.279 no he's a. 2481 01:56:26.319 --> 01:56:28.640 Winner. MAN i look at him AND i feel like 2482 01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:31.600 he's like he was an extra in like The Brave heart, 2483 01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:34.720 movie you, know like just like you, Know i'm going for. 2484 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:37.720 It there's no reservations and a lot Like, Diggle luna 2485 01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:39.720 and the, LIKE i don't care what anyone has to. 2486 01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:42.520 Say i'm gonna plumb my. Football and again that personality 2487 01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:46.399 piece he exudes that That i'm so comfortable in my own. 2488 01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:49.359 SKIN i know What i'm capable. Of just give me the, 2489 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:52.239 rock you. Know and so again super excited to have 2490 01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:53.680 Both willie And johnny on. 2491 01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:57.600 Board all, right but BEFORE i say you Lose, vancouver goodness, 2492 01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:00.840 gracious they're coming off just an ass Kick king Of 2493 01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:04.640 Miami Le Lido messi In, miami a five to one aggregate, 2494 01:57:05.039 --> 01:57:08.239 win three to one the other, night and they're as 2495 01:57:08.279 --> 01:57:11.079 of right, now they're atop the. TABLE i don't know 2496 01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:13.119 much about, them But i'm looking at their stats and 2497 01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:15.079 you guys are in for a. Challenge tell me about 2498 01:57:15.359 --> 01:57:17.319 this side and what you have to do to go 2499 01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:18.560 up there and come away with a. 2500 01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:21.600 Result, yeah this is this is definitely a team where 2501 01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:24.760 the hole is greater than some of their. Parts they've 2502 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:26.880 done a really good job as a, team you, know 2503 01:57:27.079 --> 01:57:30.159 talking to some guys in their, camp they, said it's just, 2504 01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:33.520 amazing like the feeling that we have and that we're 2505 01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:36.520 invincible and that you, know we can we can go, 2506 01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:39.600 away we can play with majority of second team players 2507 01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:41.359 and we can still get the same type of. Production 2508 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:46.840 so they're gonna be really tough, teams AND i think 2509 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:49.079 that's why that that game Against San diego is really. 2510 01:57:49.079 --> 01:57:53.640 Important they defend in a similar. Shape they they they 2511 01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:58.239 attack fairly. Similar so it's you, know we got to 2512 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:02.880 go out and and do we do as opposed to stifle, 2513 01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:05.119 them you, Know AND i think that's always a sign 2514 01:58:05.159 --> 01:58:07.880 of a good, team right where you're aware of your, 2515 01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:09.800 opponent you're aware of how good they. Are we work 2516 01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:13.600 through some of their you, know they're they're attacking rotations 2517 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:16.239 that they have and that's just kind Of but WHAT 2518 01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:18.319 i said, was how do we dominate the game with 2519 01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:20.920 the ball and in, transition because they're a really good transition. 2520 01:58:21.039 --> 01:58:24.800 Team they're very, fast they're very, athletic and they'll like 2521 01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:26.640 to go to the. House but we've got to be 2522 01:58:26.720 --> 01:58:28.880 the impediment to anything that they're doing with the. Ball 2523 01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:30.920 and then when we have the ball is make sure 2524 01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:33.520 we take our chances like we did last. Game so you, 2525 01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:36.000 KNOW i think this game sets up great for us 2526 01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:38.239 that you, know they're coming off a big. High they 2527 01:58:38.279 --> 01:58:41.920 are fantastic, teams and you, Know Salt lake has been 2528 01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:44.880 we've been struggling as a, team but we got a 2529 01:58:44.960 --> 01:58:47.600 first taste of what it feels like to win on the. 2530 01:58:47.640 --> 01:58:49.600 Road and so now we just got to double, down 2531 01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:53.720 have a fantastic, performance full of belief and, intensity and. 2532 01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:57.680 Enjoy sports a brother, well save. 2533 01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:00.520 TRAVELS i will not be, There so DO i have 2534 01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:03.079 your commitment that if you don't get all, three you 2535 01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:05.800 will talk to ownership about sending me on every road 2536 01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:06.279 trip on the. 2537 01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:07.800 Charter let's. 2538 01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:09.439 Go that's a, deal all, right, brother. 2539 01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:10.000 Safe travels be. 2540 01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:13.720 Good, okay all, right Pablom astronomy ourselves back in. Action 2541 01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:17.640 you Have, Vancouver, Smoked, miami uh and Linal. Messi so 2542 01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:19.640 it's gonna be a tough challenge for. Ourselves you missed. 2543 01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:23.880 It Johnny russell not available for the game coming up this, 2544 01:59:23.920 --> 01:59:27.760 Weekend so unfortunate news. There like slow spinnish, track goes 2545 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.920 Out Aaron, falk whose love language is quality time. 2546 01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:36.479 Spent aaron is a millennial emo who has feelings like 2547 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:39.439 the rest of. Us what is your love? Language, porter 2548 01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:40.680 do you know where your love language? 2549 01:59:40.680 --> 01:59:41.079 Is good? 2550 01:59:41.159 --> 01:59:45.079 Question time is big? Time is big? 2551 01:59:47.159 --> 01:59:47.439 Time? 2552 01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:52.039 Actually, TIME i think is like the main. Thing that 2553 01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:54.479 was a good answer From Aaron, folk ALTHOUGH i think 2554 01:59:54.560 --> 01:59:56.159 it was it was men is a little bit of 2555 01:59:56.439 --> 01:59:58.159 a cop. Out he didn't want to really dive into. 2556 01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:03.000 It but t time is just like your priority it's 2557 02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:07.039 just your, uh what you spend your time on is 2558 02:00:07.079 --> 02:00:08.880 what you, love what you have on your priority. 2559 02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:09.960 List so that's a good. 2560 02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:10.840 One that's a really good. 2561 02:00:10.840 --> 02:00:15.920 One the five love languages are physical, touch quality, time receiving, 2562 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:18.319 gifts acts of, service and words of. 2563 02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:21.119 Affirmation, okay you're still going with, time. 2564 02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:24.279 Time and time and and some some. Touch if we're 2565 02:00:24.279 --> 02:00:27.479 talking about little, touch, guy you need like some hugs like. 2566 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:30.560 Us you're not a. Hugger i'm. Sorry i've tried to 2567 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:32.520 hug you. Before you're not a. Hugger you're lying to, Me. 2568 02:00:32.479 --> 02:00:36.920 Well i'm not a hugger like well that it. Depends 2569 02:00:36.960 --> 02:00:38.479 it depends on the. Relationship you just don't want to 2570 02:00:38.560 --> 02:00:38.800 hug for. 2571 02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:41.520 Me you're my. Coworker, well why can't we hug it? 2572 02:00:41.560 --> 02:00:41.680 Out? 2573 02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:42.159 Bro we? 2574 02:00:42.199 --> 02:00:43.279 Can we can have like a little bro. 2575 02:00:43.359 --> 02:00:45.399 Hug now it's too. Late i've. Tried you don't want to? Hug, 2576 02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:46.520 fine all. 2577 02:00:46.600 --> 02:00:49.079 Right so you're saying quality time and physical touch are? 2578 02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:52.960 YOURS i think SO i don't THINK i have. One, oh, 2579 02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:54.199 well that explains a. 2580 02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:55.920 Lot is? That is? 2581 02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:56.039 That? 2582 02:00:56.199 --> 02:00:57.239 Uh is that why we're? 2583 02:00:58.640 --> 02:01:01.840 Easy let's just pumped. Up, Hey i'm very single as. Well, okay, 2584 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:03.479 well and over Thirty i'm working on. 2585 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:03.680 It. 2586 02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:07.800 Man well i'm approaching. Fifty, okay halfway to one. Hundred 2587 02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:10.439 you don't have to say, that, Right i'm working on. 2588 02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:13.439 IT i got to, admit, man it's kind of fun 2589 02:01:13.479 --> 02:01:16.119 being like A knick fan and being nervous about watching The. 2590 02:01:16.159 --> 02:01:17.520 Knicks do you think we're gonna get it? Done? 2591 02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:20.920 That it's, refreshing, Right it's. Cool, yeah being A knick 2592 02:01:20.960 --> 02:01:23.439 fan and having something to look forward to in the 2593 02:01:23.479 --> 02:01:29.479 spring is quite. Crazy outside of you, know usually you 2594 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:33.560 have like some rumor Like Kevin durant's gonna come in 2595 02:01:33.560 --> 02:01:36.000 the off, season or you're gonna trade for the biggest 2596 02:01:36.039 --> 02:01:38.479 star in the, game or you know whatever The knicks 2597 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:41.479 rumor of the year. Is that's usually what you have 2598 02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:43.399 to look forward to in the, spring free, agency the, 2599 02:01:43.479 --> 02:01:47.399 draft we got a basketball, game and we got a 2600 02:01:47.439 --> 02:01:51.399 potential clinching basketball game to get The knicks into the 2601 02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:54.840 Semi so, Yeah i'll obviously be dialed, in and it's 2602 02:01:55.199 --> 02:02:00.560 it feels a lot different than my Historical knicks, experience 2603 02:02:00.560 --> 02:02:03.760 which ONLY i think three times really they had any 2604 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:07.359 sort of playoff. Run so, yeah refreshing and, welcomed. 2605 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:08.800 No, doubt no. Doubt All, right a little story time 2606 02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:09.439 before you say good. 2607 02:02:09.479 --> 02:02:11.840 NIGHT i alluded to this earlier when we did a 2608 02:02:11.880 --> 02:02:14.720 little sports car With handy And, handy So the story 2609 02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:20.279 Of Jeff oldbrik's Son jack's Pranking Shudor sanders is of 2610 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:23.720 course a horrible look for The oldbrick family The falcons 2611 02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:26.079 as an, organization we're fined two hundred and FIFTY, k 2612 02:02:26.840 --> 02:02:29.479 And jeff himself find one hundred thousand, dollars so, it's 2613 02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.239 by the, way six percent of his. Salary it's not, 2614 02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:35.279 nothing but as the son of a sports, EXECUTIVE i 2615 02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:38.279 can't admit to playing a. Prank it was not near 2616 02:02:38.319 --> 02:02:40.880 as bad as, This it was not, public BUT i 2617 02:02:41.239 --> 02:02:41.960 have to come. 2618 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:43.680 Clean are you ready for? IT i? AM i am. 2619 02:02:43.880 --> 02:02:46.720 So my father back in the day had so this 2620 02:02:46.800 --> 02:02:48.920 was before cell. Phones, Kids, yes that's how OLD i. 2621 02:02:48.920 --> 02:02:51.600 Am the only cell phones that, exist like my dad 2622 02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:54.479 had the old Like brick big cell, phone Like Zach 2623 02:02:54.560 --> 02:02:56.159 morris's dad had on saved by the. 2624 02:02:56.159 --> 02:02:58.880 Bell there's a reference for, it but, no. 2625 02:02:59.039 --> 02:03:00.960 Kids once upon a, time if you wanted to call, 2626 02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.079 somebody you had to call her. House so at our 2627 02:03:03.159 --> 02:03:06.359 house we had two. Lines line one was for normal. 2628 02:03:06.479 --> 02:03:09.079 Use we could use line. One you could call your, 2629 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.239 friends you could call your, girlfriend do the thing online. 2630 02:03:11.239 --> 02:03:14.640 One line two was dad's business. Line so when it 2631 02:03:14.800 --> 02:03:17.119 rang you were not supposed to answer it because it 2632 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:21.159 could be you, know, Anyone Bill walton called line two, 2633 02:03:21.239 --> 02:03:24.880 once a lot OF nba, Players David, Stern it could be. 2634 02:03:24.920 --> 02:03:28.199 Anyone the only person that would answer line too was 2635 02:03:28.279 --> 02:03:31.079 my grandfather when he was Visiting god rest his. 2636 02:03:31.159 --> 02:03:33.000 Soul he's the sweet he was the sweetest. MAN i 2637 02:03:33.079 --> 02:03:33.840 miss him every single. 2638 02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:36.880 Day but he's the only one that would answer line 2639 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:38.720 too because my dad would never get mad at my, 2640 02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:41.640 grandfather my mother's, father who he, loved and he always 2641 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:44.439 wanted to answer line too in case it was somebody, famous, 2642 02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:47.600 Right AND i knew the line two, number and if 2643 02:03:47.600 --> 02:03:49.600 line one was, busy IF i tried to get, THROUGH 2644 02:03:49.680 --> 02:03:52.000 i would oftentimes call line two just to see if 2645 02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:54.840 my dad would. Answer and So i'm out here at 2646 02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:58.159 The university Of, utah call line. Two this is nineteen ninety. 2647 02:03:58.199 --> 02:04:03.680 Nine grandpa answers and he says. HELLO i, Said latrell 2648 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:08.239 spruill Is DAVE checki Series Lutroll, spreux and my, grandfather 2649 02:04:08.359 --> 02:04:12.640 blessed Us hard, goes, oh, Hello, latrelle how are you? 2650 02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:16.880 Today and then my dad gets, says, Hey, latrell It's david's. 2651 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:18.399 Going and THEN i had to come. Clean i'm, like, oh, Hey, 2652 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:19.279 dad it's. Me that's. 2653 02:04:19.319 --> 02:04:22.159 Awesome you pranked your grandfather that you Were latrell's so 2654 02:04:22.560 --> 02:04:24.640 we did not get. Fine BUT i do have to admit, 2655 02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:27.079 that as the sound of a sports, EXECUTIVE i did 2656 02:04:27.119 --> 02:04:27.640 pull a prank. 2657 02:04:27.680 --> 02:04:30.359 Once, well and you pulled the prank on your. Grandfather 2658 02:04:30.560 --> 02:04:34.479 not a drafty, correct not or Not latrell spree, will 2659 02:04:34.680 --> 02:04:35.880 which you would have got your ass. 2660 02:04:35.920 --> 02:04:37.319 Kick probably correct for. 2661 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:40.159 Sure All, Right tomorrow we're out at the Former Legacy. 2662 02:04:40.199 --> 02:04:42.159 Center come out out and join us porter what comes 2663 02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:43.920 our Way on A friday edition of the. 2664 02:04:43.960 --> 02:04:46.560 Show on A friday edition Of The, Drive Howard beck 2665 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:49.159 stops by for OUR Nba Daily, assist as he does 2666 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:51.720 each and every, week we'll have A Pga tour leaderboard 2667 02:04:51.760 --> 02:04:55.560 update live From Black desert With paul Pug, Meyer Sean 2668 02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:58.399 sayatt Of Suomer, sports for the little bit OF Nfl. 2669 02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:00.479 Draft we'll talk some hockey With Neil. 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