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<v Speaker 1>Baby my game statue. It takes a little tangle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Gatch baby game statue.

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<v Speaker 4>For the warning, this podcast is designed to take you

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<v Speaker 4>outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 4>Listener discretion is a vibek Fellas.

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<v Speaker 5>This ain't my first time at the rodeo. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>talk any more.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't talk any more, but we don't talk any more.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to the Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 7>This episode, we got a bunch of rejects with us

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<v Speaker 7>and a returning guest, Alexander. It was awesome guest the

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<v Speaker 7>last time we had him on, and I really wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to get him on again.

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<v Speaker 6>And we already got other topics for him to talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>So this should be fun and get used to it.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be on again.

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<v Speaker 7>But before we introduce him, let me introduce the rejects.

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<v Speaker 7>We got Julia back with us today.

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<v Speaker 6>What is going on? Julia? It's great to see you again.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>Nick.

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<v Speaker 9>I am meeting Alexander for the first time today, so

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<v Speaker 9>excited to be a part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for having me, of course, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>And we got Ethan Indigo. What is going on? Sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Peace on Earth?

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<v Speaker 2>Honor to be here with everyone. Great to learn what

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander said today, and I'm on all the usual social

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<v Speaker 2>media easy to find.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Nick everyone, of course, no, thank you for making

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<v Speaker 7>it my man and we got my boy Tyrone.

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<v Speaker 6>What is going on, sir? How are you?

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<v Speaker 10>What's going on? This is like the fourth or fifth time.

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<v Speaker 10>And then talk to Alexander. It's always a pleasure to intelligent. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 10>it's very It's always an awesome time to you know,

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<v Speaker 10>sit back and listen to what he has to share

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<v Speaker 10>from his uh through his journey of educating himself and

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<v Speaker 10>so on and so forth. Everything you can find on

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<v Speaker 10>myself is on Rebirth of theWord dot com. Also have

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<v Speaker 10>a book, Journey through the Origins of History that's on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course I knew that some people would forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you. I appreciate her.

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<v Speaker 10>I appreciate that. I got Ethan's book right here, how

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<v Speaker 10>to Meditate, the Geometry of Energy, How to Meditate.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to get his book.

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<v Speaker 10>And then of course I got Alexander's but I got

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<v Speaker 10>that too.

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<v Speaker 6>But I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to get it started.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, No, thank you, I'm glad you. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 7>joined us. And we got the Headless Giant. What is

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<v Speaker 7>going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Bud?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 11>You doing everybody? It's beautiful Saturday. I'm glad to be

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<v Speaker 11>on here with Alex Andrew. He sounds like a legend.

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<v Speaker 11>I can't believe I've been sleeping on this. I'm ready

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<v Speaker 11>to see it. You can find me on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 11>X look for a Headless Giant And if you have

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<v Speaker 11>any weird occult stories, you can send them to my

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<v Speaker 11>email at the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com

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<v Speaker 11>and we will read those out on Thursday nights. So

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<v Speaker 11>check that out. Thank you forget Trialogus tomorrow with Ethan,

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<v Speaker 11>So it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 7>Hell yeah, definitely check out the trialog And if you

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<v Speaker 7>got any stories to Headless, throwing your address in there

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<v Speaker 7>and I'll send you some free stickies for the story,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, So make it worth it worth your while

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<v Speaker 7>to send an email.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Jena Ninja, what is going on? Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey boss? What's up?

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<v Speaker 12>Mister ninety three? Okay, So if you want to follow me,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not woucom. We're Born to be uk O and

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<v Speaker 12>g Reborn. That's my personal account on Twitter, or you

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<v Speaker 12>can follow the show at Threshold Saints Thresholds, Saint's Apple

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<v Speaker 12>and Spotify and all your podcast providers. My episode with

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<v Speaker 12>Jadavid Osborne, will I think drop tonight. I think that's

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<v Speaker 12>what I said it for, so yeah, that's happening. And

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<v Speaker 12>then also thank you so much for inviting me. And

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<v Speaker 12>then also is my second time speaking with Alexander, and

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<v Speaker 12>I want to also shout out of course the Gray Lodge, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is kind of taking off.

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<v Speaker 12>So we do have a YouTube channel now and we

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<v Speaker 12>do big spaces and we get really good numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're.

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<v Speaker 12>Interested in speculative ontology, speculative narcissism, speculative cali chakra which

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<v Speaker 12>is basically just tontra. But if you're interested in those, yes,

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<v Speaker 12>you can subscribe to the Gray loadge YouTube channel and

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<v Speaker 12>all of our episodes are uploaded, including and the Daughter,

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<v Speaker 12>so awesome, great work to the boys there, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you of course, no, thank you, And people definitely

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<v Speaker 7>go check out his great lunch stuff. I highly suggested

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<v Speaker 7>before we introduce the guests, though, I did want you

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<v Speaker 7>to bring up I had mentioned before about the free

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<v Speaker 7>stickers with head lists. I got free stickers with people

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<v Speaker 7>if they want any. We could see him too well

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<v Speaker 7>up there. I'll send those out for you. And we

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<v Speaker 7>got t shirts that have that in the Silent Rainbow

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<v Speaker 7>logo on them as well that I'm selling to try

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<v Speaker 7>to help with the events that we have that'll list

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<v Speaker 7>real quick. We gotta have a bunch of events that

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<v Speaker 7>the occult rejects will be at. Tyrone will be there

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<v Speaker 7>at most of them, and hopefully some other rejects might

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<v Speaker 7>show up at the other one's fingers crossed. October fourth,

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<v Speaker 7>we got a big Foot thing at the Factory and Franklin,

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<v Speaker 7>North Carolina, we'll be there. October eighteenth, we got Charlie's

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<v Speaker 7>Beyond Belief and that is in Fort Myers, Florida, and

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<v Speaker 7>it's at a Masonic lodge and we are booth number

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<v Speaker 7>thirty three. I had to pick that one, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>they let us pick our boots. I was like, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna pick thirty three. You know it's either that

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<v Speaker 7>at seventeen. So yeah, we got that booth and that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>October eighteenth and Fort Myers again, Charlie's Beyond Belief, and

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<v Speaker 7>then October twenty fifth and twenty six will be in

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<v Speaker 7>Arkansas and that will be at the Paranormal Expo. It's

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to be like the biggest yearly thing for the

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<v Speaker 6>That is two days. We'll be there then.

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<v Speaker 7>And then there's one confirmed for the twenty second that

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<v Speaker 7>is another UF thing, and that will be in Mooresville,

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<v Speaker 7>North Carolina at the Army National Guard. There's two other ones,

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<v Speaker 7>but I don't have like definite addresses, but those are

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<v Speaker 7>definitely will have a booth that Tyrone will probably be

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<v Speaker 7>at most of them, except for maybe the Arkansas thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Jewels may make it from uh he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>he's gonna try to make it.

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<v Speaker 6>He lives not too.

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<v Speaker 7>Far away, so yeah, fingers crossed. There will be a

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<v Speaker 7>few other rejects there besides me. And these are old

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<v Speaker 7>cheap events. They are like ten or fifteen dollars each,

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<v Speaker 7>so even if you don't like us, you could show

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<v Speaker 7>up to tell us to go fuck off for ten

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<v Speaker 7>books so or even put it this way, they're so

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<v Speaker 7>cheap that if the speakers suck, you could just hang

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<v Speaker 7>out with us at the booth for a while.

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<v Speaker 6>No, there you go, so regardless, I think it's worth

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<v Speaker 7>Now I'm gonna shut up, and we're gonna bring on

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<v Speaker 7>Alexander and real quick. He did send me his book.

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<v Speaker 7>Very nice guy. He sent me a wait, I gotta

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<v Speaker 7>close this note tablet. There we go. Yeah, send me

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<v Speaker 7>this book. I just got it a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what's up. I'm definitely gonna check it out. Thank you, Alexander,

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<v Speaker 7>and please let everybody know what your deal is for

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<v Speaker 7>the people that don't know who you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, my name is Alexandroskevich and I'm from Poland. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>we would say, researcher, and I'm an author. This book

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<v Speaker 5>that I've sent you, originally in Polish, was written by

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<v Speaker 5>me just at the age of seventeen, and then because

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<v Speaker 5>of the law, I needed to wait until the eighteenth

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<v Speaker 5>birthday to publish it. So it was published first in

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<v Speaker 5>Poland at my age of eighteen, and then I translated

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<v Speaker 5>it into English at nineteen. So it was many people say,

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<v Speaker 5>early journey into all of that. But still it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a full book, No, like just some short crap like

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<v Speaker 5>nowadays Amazon and other platforms are flooded with some short

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<v Speaker 5>AI crab. No, it was even before the age of AI.

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<v Speaker 5>I think two years or three years ago. Appeared, So

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<v Speaker 5>it was before that, and my first interest was history,

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<v Speaker 5>lost history, how it really turned out, lost civilizations? Could

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<v Speaker 5>there be something before you know, the alleged first civilizations

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<v Speaker 5>like ancient Sunmu Egypt and in a But I went

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<v Speaker 5>beyond it because in order to understand history, you need

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<v Speaker 5>also other branches of science and a lot of knowledge

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<v Speaker 5>from other sources, other types of knowledge, not only historical ones.

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<v Speaker 5>So I branched out, and I would say that now nowadays,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm concerned with the biggest mysteries of the entire universe, existence,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you may call. And that's why in the previous

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<v Speaker 5>episode we talked about lost civilizations and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 5>about my book. But in this one we'll talk a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit about science, about universe, about reality, how it

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<v Speaker 5>all works, how science, like in the title of our

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<v Speaker 5>conversation is limited to a very large extent, What does

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<v Speaker 5>it mean, what does it imply? And many other stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But I will also talk about history today. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be only about science. And actually, when I started going,

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<v Speaker 5>because as I mentioned, I started with history, I was

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<v Speaker 5>going to plenty of competitions. I even had, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>some kind of places like top ten in these competitions

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<v Speaker 5>which were regional, like an entire district of Poland. And

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<v Speaker 5>I needed to learn a lot, a lot about our history.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I was reading that, learning that, I started

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<v Speaker 5>questioning stuff, is it really like that? Was ancient Summer

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<v Speaker 5>really the first civilizations? And why are we Why are

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<v Speaker 5>scientists skeptics telling us that you know any idea of

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<v Speaker 5>previous civilizations or humanity being much older than ancient summer.

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<v Speaker 5>It's ridiculous, according to them. So I started researching and researching,

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<v Speaker 5>and in order to find out why they are thinking

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<v Speaker 5>like that, that no, Atlantis didn't exist, and the Lemuria

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<v Speaker 5>is some scientific bs and so on. I eneded to

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<v Speaker 5>learn about science. I needed to learn about history from

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<v Speaker 5>philosophical perspective, you know, the methodology behind history. How we

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<v Speaker 5>that's how I started to be interested in science, because

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<v Speaker 5>I found out that science is very very misunderstood nowadays,

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<v Speaker 5>promotions of science seems to be like a pristine method

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<v Speaker 5>of uncovering the truth, the real truth about the world

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<v Speaker 5>and anything besides science as I mentioned is called pseudoscience,

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<v Speaker 5>some you know, crap, some kind of scum, and so

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<v Speaker 5>on and so on. So this science is being positioned in

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<v Speaker 5>the media, in the educational system, and in our day

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<v Speaker 5>to day lives as you know, the ultimate method of discovering,

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<v Speaker 5>let's say truth. This is how science is presented to

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<v Speaker 5>us and how many people believe science is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we learn, we learn more about science, how it can

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<v Speaker 5>actually tell us a lot about physical universe, or it

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<v Speaker 5>is in the blink on the blink of discovering the

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<v Speaker 5>This is the only thing that it's that comes to

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<v Speaker 5>sudo science is so parascientists even, and all of those

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<v Speaker 5>Science is only the science we are talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>scientific research, scientific journals, scientific articles, physics, biology, chemistry. But

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<v Speaker 5>here in Poland, up until today, the word science in

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<v Speaker 5>our language is nauka. And this world, which is science,

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<v Speaker 5>does not mean the science like biology, physics and all

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<v Speaker 5>of these genres of science. Now it means just acquiring knowledge.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see, let's experiment and so on, and it would

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<v Speaker 5>But then step by step I think it became more

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<v Speaker 5>it became more and more limited. And as I mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>this example, that I'm sitting here and I want to

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<v Speaker 5>or just how the universe existence around me is. I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't assume anything that, Okay, only white exists, but black, No,

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<v Speaker 5>only white things exist. No, I wouldn't assume that. If

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say, oh, only let's say organisms, living organisms exist,

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<v Speaker 5>So the main assumptions, as I mentioned, assumption can be Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>one assumption reality exists, because if I assume that reality

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't exist, So what I am searching for? What I

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<v Speaker 5>am measuring, Let's say, what I am experiment about it

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<v Speaker 5>would be logical. So we need some assumptions. We cannot

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<v Speaker 5>have zero assumptions. This is the philosophy of science. But

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<v Speaker 5>science started having more and more assumptions as it grew.

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<v Speaker 5>As I mentioned, the first one would be just things exist,

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<v Speaker 5>science are quite more introduced, actually more and more assumptions

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<v Speaker 11>But then so you're talking more about theory of science. Right,

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<v Speaker 11>So science, right, the philosophy of science goes into the stuff,

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<v Speaker 11>but it gets rarely examined by the general public. They're

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<v Speaker 11>of it, and instead they've ignored the beginning part of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly, That's what I'm talking about. That you know,

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<v Speaker 5>science actually, at its philosophical core, isn't about that that

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<v Speaker 5>about acquiring the knowledge of truth, and so on and

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<v Speaker 5>so on. No, and as I mentioned, the first assumption

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<v Speaker 5>would be things exist. It should be needed in order

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<v Speaker 5>to get the things you know, to measure the things

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<v Speaker 5>that say and do anything with them. So I am

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<v Speaker 5>first limited that, okay, things cannot non exist. Let's say

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<v Speaker 5>it cannot be that there is nothing in the universe

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<v Speaker 5>because we see, okay, things exist. But then there are

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<v Speaker 5>limitations and other assumptions in science, like for instance, naturalism,

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<v Speaker 5>are sometimes called materialism, but to be precise philosophically, for skeptics,

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<v Speaker 5>it is called naturalism, and it says that all the

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<v Speaker 5>natural things, so all the things we see naturally that

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<v Speaker 5>are occurring in our reality have natural causes. So in short,

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<v Speaker 5>there is nothing supernatural in the world. There aren't supernatural

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<v Speaker 5>causes of natural things. Like the best example would be

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<v Speaker 5>some kind of mythology in which you know, thunderstorms are

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<v Speaker 5>being created by some god. But now we have science

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<v Speaker 5>which explains how thunderstorms appear in the world, and we

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<v Speaker 5>see that it isn't that there isn't any supernatural cause.

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<v Speaker 5>So science now with the assumption, is limiting itself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>only things in matter, only things natural exists, nothing supernatural.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the best example of that. And I said

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<v Speaker 5>naturalism or materialism, because it is further described that only

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<v Speaker 5>what exists in what exists is only matter in its interaction.

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<v Speaker 5>So what we see is the domain of stuff that

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<v Speaker 5>science is applied to. Science is only applied to the

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<v Speaker 5>natural world and only to matter and its interactions. So

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<v Speaker 5>interactions would be some forces of matter, magnetism, electromagnetism, actually gravity,

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<v Speaker 5>and all the fields because they are also dependent on matter.

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<v Speaker 5>There cannot be filled without matter. Always there is matter

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<v Speaker 5>in this equation. So what we see is let's assume

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<v Speaker 5>things exist. There is something universe, world, reality, anything. But

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<v Speaker 5>things because we see. Okay, I have a hand, so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm measuring things that exist. I have some kind of

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<v Speaker 5>desk here and so on. But now we are limiting ourselves. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>only matter and its interaction exists, which, in my opinion

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<v Speaker 5>is stupid and in my opinion, cannot show us the

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<v Speaker 5>automate truth because what if the truth is non physical,

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<v Speaker 5>non material, what if it is beyond the domain It's

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<v Speaker 5>like we have the biggest bubble, which would mean like

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<v Speaker 5>the entire existence, all the things that exist, but we

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<v Speaker 5>have inside of it a smaller bubble of only natural world,

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<v Speaker 5>only matter and its interactions, and science is only applied

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<v Speaker 5>to this. And then another assumption which I do not

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<v Speaker 5>agree is, and to say funny one, it is sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>called rationalism that everything that is within science should be

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<v Speaker 5>understandable by humans or let's say some kind of logical things,

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<v Speaker 5>So there is nothing let's say irrational completely or there

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<v Speaker 5>is nothing beyond our human understands, which I'm also opposed.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that science can actually debank itself on

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<v Speaker 5>this one, because we see, for instance, evolution, I believe

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<v Speaker 5>that we are more than just material human beings. This

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<v Speaker 5>body is, these advanced animals, advanced hominis, advanced monkeys. However,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that we have also some kind of part

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<v Speaker 5>of our brain, maybe it's even the dominant one, that

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<v Speaker 5>is material part of thinking. And what science is trying

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<v Speaker 5>to explain is that everything that science applies to can

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<v Speaker 5>be understood by this by let's say, our brains are minds,

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<v Speaker 5>are biological kinds of mind. And I see a quick

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<v Speaker 5>debanking of it in science because we see that how minds,

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<v Speaker 5>how brains evolved, they evolved to fit evolutionary purposes. So

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<v Speaker 5>they evolved in order for a particular organism to survive,

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<v Speaker 5>let's say humans. So I say to myself, just speculating,

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<v Speaker 5>what if our human minds are not not capable of

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<v Speaker 5>getting to the automate truth because this ultimate truth was

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<v Speaker 5>not needed for us to survive. We have let's say,

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<v Speaker 5>a bit much a bit more advanced brains or logic,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera than other animals, but not all because other

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<v Speaker 5>are more advanced, like dolphins, in other kind of brain

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<v Speaker 5>and mind things. How what I mean is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we are a bit more advanced that we can speculate

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<v Speaker 5>about the universe, we can measure, we can create stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and put this stuff into space. Let's say, but what

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<v Speaker 5>if still we are limited that just by using our

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<v Speaker 5>brains and material biological minds, we wouldn't be ever you know,

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<v Speaker 5>into searching for the automate truth. So I see, even

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<v Speaker 5>science by the evolutionary branch, and all of the advancements

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<v Speaker 5>can a bit of the bank that this idea, this

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<v Speaker 5>primary notion, primary assumption in how the science works in

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<v Speaker 5>the philosophy and all the fundamentals of science that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>everything should be based on rationalism. And I think, what

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<v Speaker 5>if the rational mind wasn't there to explain the truth

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<v Speaker 5>about the universe, but what it was if it was

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<v Speaker 5>just for us to survive and to get better, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to dominate the world and to dominate the

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<v Speaker 5>other species, because probably this was why humans evolved in

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<v Speaker 5>this rout and not the other. So these are the

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<v Speaker 5>two main assumptions of science that are limiting it from

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<v Speaker 5>the idea of getting into truth, getting into knowledge about

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<v Speaker 5>assumption of rationalism, and getting only the material part of

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<v Speaker 5>the physical universe. So we see, and this is the

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<v Speaker 5>image that is often overlooked when it comes to media,

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to you know, learning science, that science

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<v Speaker 5>isn't about the automate truth. But is this only about

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<v Speaker 5>in the material physical realm, which is I think a

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<v Speaker 5>good tool because sometimes if I want to focus, let's

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<v Speaker 5>say I want to repair a car, I don't need

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<v Speaker 5>to you know, speculate and think of the entire universe. No,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to have the applied knowledge on how to

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<v Speaker 5>repair a particular car engine or anything that there is

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<v Speaker 5>in this car. So the engineering knowledge and the same here.

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<v Speaker 5>If we want to discover the best way how the

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<v Speaker 5>physical universe work, we will have to apply science, which

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<v Speaker 5>is all about the physical material world, and we will see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>biology works like that, physical reality works like that. These

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<v Speaker 5>are the loss of Newton. These are the loss of

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<v Speaker 5>the universe. But we will be still limited and we

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<v Speaker 5>entire thing spirituality and why this is important. It's important because,

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<v Speaker 5>as I mentioned at the beginning, science is at least

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<v Speaker 5>since you know, the famous event of the world. Why

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<v Speaker 5>but from I think this was the epogeum of this propaganda,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say that science is the only way we

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<v Speaker 5>should you know, thing when it comes to living here

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<v Speaker 5>as human beings, that science is the only route, and

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, have you ever heard of Parmanides, the leader of

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<v Speaker 11>the Eleatic school in So he's the guy who comes

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<v Speaker 11>And he got there by going on a massive trip, right,

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<v Speaker 11>maybe a drug trip, maybe some sort of spiritual trip.

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<v Speaker 11>But he goes outside of his body and he witnesses

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<v Speaker 11>A equals Hey, there cannot be no non contradiction in

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<v Speaker 11>And that's the basis for science. So when you understand

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<v Speaker 11>can't go back to the basis of science for our

420
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<v Speaker 11>science now, it's kind of ridiculous.

421
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<v Speaker 9>I was actually going to say something like that, headless,

422
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 9>because it seems like to me, science now is basically

423
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<v Speaker 9>just removing any spirituality whatsoever.

424
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<v Speaker 8>Like I get it. We have a physical brain and

425
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 8>we use it to like wipe our ass and like

426
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:23.559
<v Speaker 8>go to.

427
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 9>The grocery store. But there is so many levels to that.

428
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<v Speaker 9>You have your mind, which you get information all the

429
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.960
<v Speaker 9>time that is not from you sometimes and you wonder,

430
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 9>like how am I able to process this? Where did

431
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 9>I come from before I was born? That doesn't come

432
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 9>from your physical brain, That comes from somewhere outside of yourself.

433
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<v Speaker 9>So it's like science has completely removed the beautiful spiritual

434
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<v Speaker 9>connectedness of everything.

435
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, these are two great ideas, great examples, and I

436
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.920
<v Speaker 5>wanted to go into the spirituality out of further because

437
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 5>this is, you know, connecting what I've just talked about

438
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.359
<v Speaker 5>with the spirituality kind of thing. But let's say about

439
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 5>the monopoly on knowledge. This is the bad because nowadays science,

440
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 5>as I mentioned at the beginning before explaining all of this,

441
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 5>is saying us only science can lead you to the

442
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 5>true knowledge about anything. But actually, as I mentioned, here

443
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 5>are the limitations of science. So what if I am

444
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.640
<v Speaker 5>going beyond the domain of where the science is applied,

445
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.640
<v Speaker 5>then you know, science eliminate that the scientists this is

446
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.680
<v Speaker 5>a scam, This is some kind of grift, et cetera, hoax,

447
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 5>And this is the bad thing that science is having

448
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:43.720
<v Speaker 5>monopoly because I understand that science could have monopoly on

449
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 5>the material world because of all of their achievements. Let's

450
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 5>say they figured out how, you know, the physical laws,

451
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. Okay, they may have, they may be the

452
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 5>leader in this kind of domain, but you know, they

453
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<v Speaker 5>are going into what is outside of their main And

454
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<v Speaker 5>I often laugh about you know, science is telling us

455
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 5>things about spirituality or something, but actually spirituality, God and

456
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:13.920
<v Speaker 5>plenty aspects of religions are, you know, not in the

457
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 5>domain of science for science to comment it. So, actually, spirituality,

458
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 5>any kind of metaphysics, metaphysics, meta, beyond physics. It is

459
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 5>all beyond the bubble of domain where science is applied.

460
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 5>So science actually should not comment at all about that.

461
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 5>Let's say I'm the mechanic, you're the biologist, and I

462
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.640
<v Speaker 5>know things about the mechanical stuff. Okay, this is maybe

463
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 5>a bad example because I can tell you about the

464
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 5>mechanical parts of our bodies, but I do not know

465
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 5>shit about you know, biology, cells and everything, and it

466
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 5>would be like, oh, I'm a mechanic, and I would

467
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 5>tell you, no, you're wrong about being biologists. No, it

468
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 5>is not about Selles, mito hundred and stuff like that.

469
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.480
<v Speaker 5>So actually, anything metaphysical spiritual should be from the phinician

470
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 5>that I mentioned, from the philosophy of science, outside of

471
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 5>the domain of science. So, in my opinion, science should

472
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<v Speaker 5>not have any kind of dominion, any kind of monopoly

473
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 5>on knowledge, because knowledge can exist outside of science. It

474
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 5>can be knowledge of the things that are just outside

475
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 5>the physical realm, and it connects to spirituality of course, religion,

476
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know the thing that all science explains everything

477
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 5>in the physical world. We do not need any kind

478
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 5>of religion. We can be atheists. And I think I

479
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 5>mentioned it at the end of the last conversation about

480
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 5>my little conspiracy theory of the entire world and how

481
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 5>it works. I think it's a step by step process

482
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:52.119
<v Speaker 5>of limiting our spirituality, ending in going in getting us

483
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.559
<v Speaker 5>as human beings into a complete physical like getting us

484
00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 5>into the physical realm, blocking us from anything so spiritual mystical,

485
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 5>out of physical metaphysical, and you know, maybe later turning

486
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 5>us into robots. You know, all the trends, humanism, agenda

487
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 5>and so on. I think that this is one of

488
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 5>the steps, and I think it goes it manifests throughout

489
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 5>the entire history that we started let's say, with just

490
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 5>spiritual beliefs, then the first shamanism and so on, then religions,

491
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 5>but still for instance, first religions where polyteistic. They explain that, oh,

492
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 5>there are plenty of different forces of nature that those

493
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 5>people thought were gods, etc. And then you know, we

494
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 5>are being more and more limited when it comes to

495
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.799
<v Speaker 5>our spirituality, like closed in a smaller and smaller cage.

496
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 5>Let's say the first stage was just pure spirituality, than shamanism,

497
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 5>causer cage. Then polytaistic religions, so still plenty of possibilities,

498
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 5>but then limited also by Brahman for instance in India

499
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 5>and other you know kind of priests in other religions.

500
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Then monotistic religion, so only one god, all the other

501
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 5>gods do not exist, or all the other forces and

502
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 5>gods and stuff are bad, et cetera. And this thing

503
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 5>that there's hell and heaven and you need to think

504
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 5>like that and act like that in order to go

505
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 5>to heaven. So the next limitation, and the furthest limitation,

506
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 5>would be, Okay, there is no spirituality. There isn't heaven

507
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 5>or hell. You die, it's over. You do not have

508
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 5>any psychic abilities. There is nothing out of physical there

509
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 5>is nothing spiritual, and I think it's coming. And the

510
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 5>last stage of that is, as I say, a little

511
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 5>bit conspiracy theory. I do not know if it is correct,

512
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 5>but there are plenty of arguments for it, and I

513
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 5>think the next step would be Okay, people are so

514
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 5>manipulated even right now, but maybe let's say in ten

515
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 5>twenty fifty years into believing that there's only the physical realm,

516
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 5>there is nothing spiritual. They you know, gave up and

517
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 5>the idea of spirituality. Now let's close them in some

518
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 5>kind of robots machines connect them by chips in their

519
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 5>brain and and someone, and now we are fully limited

520
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 5>from who we really are. At a bigger picture, we

521
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 5>are more and more limited, and then we are just

522
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 5>just biological machines or part biological machines. Even at this

523
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 5>point we are part humans, part of course some kind

524
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>of technology AI, and we are the most limited. So

525
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 5>this is my take on it.

526
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<v Speaker 8>I'm on board with that.

527
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 9>I think I think that that could be very true.

528
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 8>Also, I think that.

529
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 9>They target your different parts of your brain with pharmaceuticals,

530
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 9>and everybody's on some kind of fucking pharmaceutical these days,

531
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 9>So talk about shutting off your spirituality. A lot of

532
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 9>like antidepressants, antipsychotic medication, The active ingredient is fluoride. They

533
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 9>put it fluoride in your water, You shower with it,

534
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 9>preuss your teeth with it, wash your clothes in it.

535
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 9>Then you take antidepressants that further calcifies your brain. And

536
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 9>then we wonder how we got to like non spiritual.

537
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 9>I'm just you know, going along to get along. It's

538
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:22.079
<v Speaker 9>because they're actually inducing like a pharmaceutical lobotomy, and that's

539
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 9>that's where we're at. I think that they would love

540
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 9>to see us as robots because they were more easy

541
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 9>to control.

542
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Yes, also to add to that, it doesn't need to

543
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 5>be like things we eat or we take some drugs,

544
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 5>but it can be also first one, propaganda and making

545
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 5>us from little kids into only the left analyticological part

546
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 5>of the brain. And you mentioned lobotomi. There were some

547
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.279
<v Speaker 5>kind of experiments of you know, how right hemisphere is acting,

548
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 5>how lefts hemisphere is acting. And when they cut us

549
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 5>out of the left hemisphere this time, people were having

550
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, spiritual things all the time. They even couldn't

551
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 5>feel where there is a boundary between them and the

552
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 5>outside world. They're like, couldn't you know, And they couldn't

553
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 5>analytically logically fready thing at all. So I think that

554
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.920
<v Speaker 5>they won't also ask by just you know, practice, practice,

555
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 5>practice stimulating left side, left side of the brain, you know,

556
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 5>killing any kind This was actually I think clearly shown

557
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 5>during the Cold War postmodernism, you know here in Eastern

558
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 5>Europe to just you know everything gray, nothing you know,

559
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 5>fun and nothing artistic, no artistic expression. You should be

560
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 5>just like calculator. Just you know, do MAVs do physics

561
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 5>or learn to be a lawyer when it comes to humanity,

562
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 5>but you know, you do not have any artistic expression

563
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 5>and so on. And I think this is the part

564
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 5>that even for propaganda, we do not need to eat anything.

565
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 5>They can you know, get us like eighteen ninety percent

566
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 5>into the left hemisphere, and we are very limited because

567
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 5>even we are not the full capacicities of our brain.

568
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 5>And maybe this right side of the brain is much

569
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 5>more connected to spirituality or other parts like the pineal

570
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 5>gland and you mentioned calcification by fluoride and other stuff.

571
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 5>But also nowadays we are in an age that they

572
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 5>can go into two routes. One, they can analyze how

573
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 5>the brain a few works, like you know, put a

574
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>headset on you and check out to seventy percent about

575
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 5>according to them, what you think or what you are

576
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 5>thinking about approximately maybe not the entire thing you visualize

577
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 5>and all the information, but they can, you know, predict

578
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 5>what you are thinking about. So they can control you

579
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 5>in this way. But they can also control you in

580
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 5>a different way that you know, for instance, by putting

581
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 5>electric signals in your brain. Then they can like trigger memories.

582
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.440
<v Speaker 5>They can trigger certain thoughts about okay, m hand grail

583
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 5>will go to something and so on. So maybe, you know,

584
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 5>future technology could easily not like we've advanced something now,

585
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 5>just with current technology, make some implants into your head,

586
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 5>or maybe with some nanotechnology that you are not even

587
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 5>aware of and enable it to put advertisements in your mind,

588
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. To some extent, I think

589
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 5>that our imagination is actually connected to something beyond the

590
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 5>physical one. But I think that they can dominate your

591
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 5>brain easily. And if they dominate constant simulation, in constant

592
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 5>stimulation on or when we are in the survival state,

593
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 5>we are not thinking about the universe and stuff like that,

594
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 5>how it works about philosophy. Now we are shrinked, and

595
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 5>I think that this is the technology that they can do.

596
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 5>We do not even need to eat anything to do that.

597
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 5>But this is a bit dystopian, and I'm optimistic. I

598
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 5>think that, you know, maybe it's not our scenario for

599
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 5>the new future.

600
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Something I want to say between Julia and a new Alexander,

601
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 7>I thought of an illment, Gilchrist. I think I'm saying

602
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 7>his name right, somebody that I've wanted to get on

603
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 7>the show. He has an amazing book called The.

604
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 6>The Master and his Emissary.

605
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 7>I have it, and I've only read a little bit

606
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 7>here and there, but you know, I've watched him do

607
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 7>presentations on it and talk about it, and he says, like,

608
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 7>right now, he thinks there's a huge problem with that,

609
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 7>like we're all basically like way too much on the

610
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 7>left side of the brain, and that that part of

611
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 7>the brain will like start to lie to you if

612
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 7>you get like a scared or afraid to make sense

613
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 7>of stuff. He says, So like we're kind of like

614
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 7>creating our own realities to deal with life at this

615
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 7>point and not acknowledging for what it really is.

616
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 6>It's fucking free.

617
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, one hundred.

618
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<v Speaker 9>I think that they've been developing this kind of technology

619
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 9>from like the sixties though.

620
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 8>I think as soon as it.

621
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 9>Rolled out like TV, yeah, you know, and it's like

622
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 9>you were saying, they could put something in your head

623
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 9>that makes you crave taco bell all the time, Well,

624
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 9>that shit is already happening, because you know, with the

625
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 9>way they advertise drugs, food, everything, flashing lights, constant programming,

626
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 9>I think that they've already found a way without even touching.

627
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 8>You physically to.

628
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:19.000
<v Speaker 9>Disrupt how your brain is supposed to work, just from

629
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<v Speaker 9>like watching movies, shows whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Electronic explain.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, your phone.

632
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm also afraid you know all the electromagnetic connection,

633
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 5>and you know some newer things like no Wi Fi

634
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 5>or G five and so on. But I think that

635
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe in their secret like experiments or maybe

636
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 5>the new future, they would be able to know to

637
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 5>do everything remotely. Now you are just going going, or

638
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 5>maybe they will input you some kind of nano stuff

639
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 5>that you're not even aware of it, maybe even just

640
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 5>breathed it in while you were outside of your homework

641
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 5>and at your home, and you know, you're walking walking,

642
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 5>and then you're doing something that it is not you,

643
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 5>but they controlling you through your nervous system. And nervous

644
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 5>system is actually I think easy to control because it

645
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 5>is electromagnetic to some extent electric, so you know, different impulses.

646
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 5>Just like I mentioned, this is an old actual technology

647
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 5>as you mentioned sixty seventies, probably that just putting different

648
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 5>impulses in special parts of the brain can result in

649
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 5>now you remember your most traumatic one you have like

650
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 5>a vision like a memory, or they make you hand

651
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 5>grains so on, the same with manipulation. You mentioned fluoride,

652
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 5>but other chemicals that are you know, messing up with

653
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 5>the hormones. They can do a lot of things with

654
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 5>our body. And that's why I think all the propaganda

655
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 5>and all the things it is going toward is eliminating spirituality,

656
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 5>anything beyond physical because if you think that you are

657
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 5>only the physical material body machine, let's say biological, you

658
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 5>are limited. And you know, you think maybe even if

659
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 5>you're aware of what we are talking about, that they

660
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 5>can control you in all the possible ways. You are like, oh,

661
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 5>I can't do anything about that. You know, they will

662
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 5>get the noneo stuff. I will, you know, do that,

663
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 5>I will maybe even kill some people that and so on.

664
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 5>You're not aware of that, you are actually aware, but

665
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 5>you are, you know, in this depressing state. And I

666
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 5>think that's why they want to kill the spirituality to say, okay,

667
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 5>you see now our enemies let's say you know usay

668
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 5>in other countries like China or Russia, these countries can

669
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 5>do that, so you have to abide us or if

670
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 5>it's a vice versa here on the eastern side of

671
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 5>the world, you need to be careful, you know, Western things,

672
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 5>but they can control you, and you need to obey us,

673
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 5>the government, and so on. So I think this is

674
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 5>why it's going into the material one because if you

675
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 5>know about spirituality, if you truly experience it, you are

676
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 5>not fearing anything. You know, the death is not the end,

677
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 5>and so on, So you have a different mindset to go.

678
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Even even if it existed into that into this negative

679
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 5>these stop and stuff, you have a completely different attitude

680
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 5>towards it.

681
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to add that there are definitely these

682
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>modern really institutionalizations to kind of make people not be

683
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 2>sensitive and even or intuitive. And even that word has

684
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a kind of trigger to it, right, like, oh, you're

685
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 2>so sensitive. People use that as a really derogatory in

686
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 2>a sense kind of word, when actually.

687
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 5>It's programming subconscious.

688
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>It's an example of programming which we do to ourselves.

689
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I think.

690
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 5>I cannot be sensitive, right right.

691
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 2>That's a great example the hardness and softness. Like with

692
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Taichi for health, we want to integrate offness and sensitivity

693
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and not be hard because when you're rigid, you really

694
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 2>you you lose your ability. In flexibility, there is the

695
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 2>potential for rigidity, not an In rigidity, there's no flexibility

696
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of this modern institutionalization and even verbal

697
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>tendencies and just cultural tendencies to be hard and rigid

698
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and not sensitive to the spiritual or non physical. I

699
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 2>think may start within ourselves. In there's an in the

700
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 2>reflective of the theory that are very eyesight and hearing

701
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and even the spectrum of what we might think about

702
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>is said to be biologically hindered in order to maintain

703
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a survival and fight the bobcats and the wolves and

704
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the random bowls that come out of nowhere that you

705
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>have to survive and getting food and so on. So

706
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 2>all these the base programming and base place that we

707
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>might be in. It was more the more frequent place

708
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>right where we're just focusing on survival. So I think

709
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>in reflect to that these biological circumstances. Now we have

710
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>these modern examples, as you laid out so eloquently, Alexander,

711
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that maybe come from the same biological tendency to be

712
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 2>in survival mode as a way to survive and not

713
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>really look at these energies and these different qualities and

714
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>or are very you know, people might call it our

715
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>our dark side or our dark aspect of our consciousness.

716
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>People really don't want to look at what is the

717
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing holding us back? Most often our selves are

718
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 2>usually we're alone worst enemy, and people do not want

719
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to look at that.

720
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.920
<v Speaker 5>In depth anyway. Yes, I agree, I agree.

721
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Just to build No, I wasn't trying to disagree, just

722
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to build on like, Yes, we hold ourselves back, certainly

723
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 2>institutionally and personally.

724
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I think it's a great example of you know

725
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 5>how society or I mentioned the Eastern side, you know,

726
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 5>or postmodernism one you know this. I don't want to

727
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 5>call it philosophist school of thought or anything. I think

728
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 5>it's like global phenomenon that you know, make you fit,

729
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 5>that you need to fit into that, into that, and

730
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 5>there are plenty of different ideologies that are you know,

731
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 5>throwing people into a particular root when actually you can

732
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 5>be free and you will see that, you know, it's

733
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 5>just a root. Just as science, as I mentioned at

734
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 5>the beginning, is limited in its own way, and science

735
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 5>is only I would say, science is only a method

736
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 5>of understanding physical with emphasist reality, and who knows, maybe

737
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 5>even not entirely if we take into the consideration disrationalism

738
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.480
<v Speaker 5>thing that maybe our minds are not supposed to know everything.

739
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think depending on where you are, even emotionally.

740
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 7>I don't think there's certain things you should understand given

741
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 7>times something like that. So to explain one thing I

742
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 7>didn't want to bring up, it's a little bit kind

743
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 7>of rough. I mean, it's about the science community. It's

744
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 7>not kind of the way that you were going at it.

745
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 7>But it's just a way for me to have a

746
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 7>shameless plug for the show as well. One thing I

747
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 7>do think is important within the science community, and I

748
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 7>think a lot of people kind of sleep on it too.

749
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 7>It was interesting for me when Lisa pitched it to

750
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 7>the show or to me, it's not my topic, so

751
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 7>I can't pat myself on the back of his hers.

752
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 7>But even with Maxwell's family owning so much of the

753
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 7>publication of scientific papers for so long, they basically controlled

754
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 7>science certain aspects.

755
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, yes, it's just like.

756
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 5>All science about different even outside of science, you know,

757
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 5>there are people who own out even nowadays with the

758
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 5>food industry, they are also like you see, okay, we

759
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 5>have five big companies that control all the eighty percent

760
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 5>of the food and you will see okay, but all

761
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 5>these five hours under control of the one majoritly.

762
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 11>So right mcgarral Hill was the textbook maker that Maxwell

763
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.719
<v Speaker 11>owned for about three years and changed all of their

764
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 11>policies how they you know, wrote their books and everything else.

765
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 11>So that was coming straight out of this Epstein network.

766
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 7>No, that is true, and I think for some reason,

767
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.199
<v Speaker 7>I think they had to do something with like German

768
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 7>and Nazi stuff with Mocgrohill all the way.

769
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 6>Can remember that.

770
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 5>Well Germans actually because of it is very German and

771
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Nazis actually was a very interesting case because because of

772
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 5>their isolation from the outside world during the World War,

773
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 5>they actually started with completely different ideas and the Nazi

774
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 5>science of nineteen forty four, so before the last year

775
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 5>of the world in comparison to let's say American science

776
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.159
<v Speaker 5>and global science outside of Nazi Germany was completely completely different,

777
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 5>just after a few like four or five years being

778
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 5>isolated during the world during the Second World Wars, which

779
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:46.199
<v Speaker 5>shows you that maybe, you know, sometimes isolation can be

780
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.480
<v Speaker 5>a good thing because you won't think the same things

781
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 5>as the other ones all over the world are thinking.

782
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.840
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's a good example that you know,

783
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 5>we say, oh science, everyone agrees with saence and so on,

784
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 5>but here you will say that after all these years

785
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 5>of isolation, just a year is actually of isolation. Their science,

786
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 5>their physics was a completely different, you know kind of thing.

787
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Even they went back to the beginnings and some of

788
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 5>the prayer things. When it comes to physics, they you know, say, no,

789
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 5>it's probably a little bit different. They weren't right in

790
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 5>plenty of things. But actually when Western sciences discovered that

791
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 5>they were heavily inspired that wait, what is it, so.

792
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 8>Are you talking about You're talking about Nazis.

793
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Nazis science was completely different. And that's why you know,

794
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 5>all these conspiracies about NASA, NASA and their influence with

795
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 5>the Nazi scientists, because plenty of Nazi science citis in

796
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 5>order not to be killed their benefit but also benefit

797
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 5>of the United States and other countries to have the

798
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 5>best scientists on their team were you know, taken, not killed,

799
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 5>and taken into the USA. Plenty of Nazi scientists. And

800
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 5>it turned out that, as I mentioned, four or five

801
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 5>years of their isolation, their science was like a sci

802
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 5>fi one. That's why they were you know, all these

803
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 5>hidden projects like UFO, the Glocka, these were here in Poland.

804
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 5>Plenty of these projects were created here in Poland. Actually,

805
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 5>the Glocka they're kind of youthful, this hornet kind of

806
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 5>craft that later inspired the American stealth, these fighters, which

807
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 5>are like out of sci fi movie. So Nazi science

808
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 5>was really out of this world because they were also

809
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 5>heavily influenced before that by occultism. Because before even the

810
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 5>like nsdaap so the party Nationalists of Hitler Nationalist Party

811
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 5>became a power in Germany, even before that at the

812
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 5>end of eighteen hundreds, at the beginning of the nineteen hundreds,

813
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 5>they had their roots in occultism because there's plenty of

814
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 5>their members were into that. Later when the Nazis came

815
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 5>into power in Germany, there even started projects, as I mentioned,

816
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 5>of these physics, but also projects on non material staff

817
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 5>projects about uncovering hidden history. Even you know him La,

818
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 5>so you know, one of the biggest guys when it

819
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 5>comes to Nazis. After Hitler was trying to search for Atlantis.

820
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 5>And now you see, for instance, I don't know if

821
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, Flint Dibble and other skeptics who are selling, oh,

822
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 5>Graham Ankok is bad because of his Ancient apocalypt series

823
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 5>and so on. They are telling that this idea of

824
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 5>trying to search for lost civilizations is racist is fastest,

825
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 5>it's Nazi. Even some of the people, maybe not this

826
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 5>one that I mentioned, but other in this kind of

827
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 5>field telling us because for the history, people were using

828
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 5>that for bad things. But you know why they are

829
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 5>telling us, no, we cannot search for Atlantis because we

830
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 5>would be racist, nazy and so on, because we are

831
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, No, it's I think it shouldn't be like that,

832
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 5>and I think it's a bad thinking, illogical thinking, even

833
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion that you know, you take these people

834
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 5>into this like oh this Atlantis hunters or lost civilizations hunters,

835
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 5>they are racists or these methods are racist. No, just racists, fascists.

836
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Nazis were using this knowledge for their purposes because Nazis

837
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 5>wanted to show that there Arian race. So the Germans,

838
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 5>true Germans, were coming from some kind of loss civilization

839
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 5>like Atlantis. They wanted a proof because they were they

840
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 5>really were racists, and they thought that their Arian race

841
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 5>is superior in comparison to others. But they were using

842
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 5>this Atlantist knowledge that we may talk about for bad purposes.

843
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 5>But it doesn't mean that Atlantis hunt Atlantis hunting is

844
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 5>Nazi in itself. No, it isn't, but plenty of people

845
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 5>interpret it like that. So Nazis. There are crazy stories.

846
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 5>They even wanted to recreate some kind of UFO interdimensional UFOOL,

847
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 5>like a physical one for space travels outside of the

848
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 5>space time reality. After the channeling, there were some kind

849
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:26.800
<v Speaker 5>of medium. It was before the war for sure, and

850
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 5>they were, you know, channeling some kind of papers like

851
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 5>blueprints of these UFO craft. There are plenty of stories

852
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 5>like that about the Nazis and they were trying to

853
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 5>replicate it. And because of the routine occultism channelings, they

854
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 5>were much more open for different ideas. That's why the Glocka,

855
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.760
<v Speaker 5>which was meant to be some kind of anti gravity

856
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 5>thing according to them, maybe it doesn't exist, the thing

857
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.880
<v Speaker 5>like anti gravity maybe, but they were thinking and okay,

858
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 5>let's experiment, and they came to plenty of new things.

859
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 5>They invented new true things in physics because they were

860
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 5>very open about all of that. They wanted to create UFOs,

861
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 5>They wanted to power the psychic powers.

862
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 11>Yes, right, well, Alexander. And in terms of their moral

863
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 11>rejection of Western physics, it really came down to this

864
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 11>Einstein idea, right, because they really rejected Einstein hard like

865
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 11>he was very big in the West, and they're like,

866
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 11>we want nothing to do with that Swedish guy or

867
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 11>the Swiss guy Jewish guy.

868
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't want this podcast. I'm sorry, Enigma. You know

869
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 5>they didn't like just and I tell you what they do,

870
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 5>so sorry.

871
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 11>The same kind of rejection going on in the Soviet

872
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.119
<v Speaker 11>Union where they were rejected in Western science for a

873
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 11>different type of agriculturalists, and that created major problems in

874
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 11>the Soviet Union as well.

875
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, I agree with you, and even they rejected

876
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 5>because of their philosophical basis in Marxism. In communism, they

877
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 5>rejected the idea of spirituality. When the Bolsheviks in like

878
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:11.320
<v Speaker 5>twenties got into the power, they closed most and most

879
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 5>of the churches, and they wanted to kill religions. They sometimes,

880
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 5>during events that they were not doing well, were taking

881
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 5>back this religion when they needed to. But they were

882
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 5>anti religious. They thought that spirituality is you know, stupid,

883
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 5>doesn't exist. They were materialists, heard materialists, and atheists. And

884
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 5>because of that, when they found out about psychic remote

885
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 5>viewing and all of the psychic phenomena like channelings, they

886
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 5>were heavily researching it. Western world was a little bit

887
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 5>back in that because they thought, Okay, the Western world

888
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, this doesn't exist, but actually so of

889
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 5>its scientists were thinking that spiritual phenomena and all the

890
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 5>mediumship psychic stuff is a material phenomenon. So they got

891
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 5>it into their paradigm. You know, as I mentioned that

892
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 5>spirituality is outside of the scientific paradigm, and that's why

893
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 5>science is not like saying that mediumship and psychic capabilities

894
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 5>are real, because these are outside of the physical realm.

895
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 5>But Soviet sciences were thinking, but maybe they're physical. I

896
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 5>do not agree with them at all, but because of that,

897
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 5>they implemented it into their scientific community, and psychic stuff

898
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 5>was so heavily researched in USSR, like they were really

899
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 5>really into it because they thought it is some kind

900
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 5>of material stuff. And that's why then later USA was, wait,

901
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 5>they are investigating it, so maybe we should too, and

902
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 5>that's how the Ingoswan, the famous remote viewer and other

903
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 5>later were involved into that. So I think that Savit

904
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 5>Union was the first in that, and then later USA

905
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 5>was that we should investigate it to like our enemies

906
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 5>are doing that, we should too. So there are plenty

907
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 5>of interesting case is showing us different kinds of science

908
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 5>in the Soviet era, in the Nazi stuff. I think

909
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 5>it is not only the rejection of Einstein was a

910
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 5>part of that. Like they even say, I was in

911
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 5>my high school, I had like like major but in

912
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 5>high school like extended version of history, like different subjects,

913
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 5>and our history was extended, and it was focused on

914
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.960
<v Speaker 5>the times from nineteen hundreds up until the end of

915
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 5>the World War two. So it was heavily focused on

916
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 5>this spirit. And I remember there were even some quotes

917
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 5>that from people from scientists back then during the Nazi time,

918
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.440
<v Speaker 5>that we won't accept this Jewish thing that Einstein is propagating.

919
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 5>They were, you know, so racists, that no, it's a

920
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Jewish thing, it's not true, it's propaganda, and so on.

921
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 5>They were telling like that it was a part of

922
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 5>rejecting Einstein's gravity and so on. But part of that

923
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 5>was also that when the war started they were completely isolated.

924
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't like nowadays they can browse the Internet and

925
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 5>check what scientific advancements are there. Back then, the scientific

926
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.920
<v Speaker 5>research was not that big like nowadays. So in four

927
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 5>or five years, Nazis were actually not informed on everything

928
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 5>that was happening all over the world when it comes

929
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 5>to science. And this was the part isolation and part

930
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 5>rejection of the Western one. In the USSR, similar that

931
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 5>part was the rejection there is nothing beyond matter, there

932
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 5>is only matter. We are eighties, we are socialists, we

933
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 5>are materialists. And also part of the isolation of the

934
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 5>Western the Western is bad. You know here even in

935
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 5>Poland it was up until the eighteen nineties, so nineteen

936
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 5>eighty nine, so like thirty plus years ago, we were

937
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 5>under the communist regime and all the Western stuff was bad.

938
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 5>Trust me, even I was born in two thousand and three,

939
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 5>so long long ago that and I remember, you know,

940
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 5>some kind of artifacts like things from before before we

941
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 5>were integrated into the Western world. That you know, everything

942
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 5>on the West is bad. Everything from Rascha from Soviet

943
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 5>Union is good. And we should you know, reject everything

944
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 5>the Western depravity and so on. So yes, these are

945
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 5>showing us different kinds of worldviews.

946
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 11>Even what's interesting is the artifacts that are left over

947
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 11>from this era that I think still don't get a

948
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.559
<v Speaker 11>lot of attention. So for instance, in the West, we

949
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 11>have Western science calling certain obscure kind of effects cavitation effects,

950
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.360
<v Speaker 11>cavitation effects. Now they don't go into any detail and

951
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 11>what these cavitation effects are. But you know, this is

952
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 11>a very clear example of them sort of relegating these

953
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 11>different effects within science as a thing that they don't

954
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 11>full explain. But they point at it and they're like, well,

955
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:05.239
<v Speaker 11>we can explain this, it's the cavitation effect. Let's move

956
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.440
<v Speaker 11>on to the next thing. It's kind of funny. So

957
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 11>they're describing the same things in different ways with varying

958
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.320
<v Speaker 11>amounts of focus being placed on them, and usually what

959
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 11>we end up seeing is that they don't really do

960
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 11>a good job of explaining it too well.

961
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 5>M yes, yes, there are a bunch of examples. Any

962
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of comment or.

963
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll go really quickly. Okay.

964
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 12>So so I think that everything you said I totally

965
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.199
<v Speaker 12>agree with. Like, I think one tool that I like

966
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 12>to say for people to like take sort of agency,

967
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 12>be agential in and of themselves, take it, you know,

968
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:47.159
<v Speaker 12>take full.

969
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Ownership of their own will.

970
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 12>Maybe is to quoting Andrew mcluin, grandson of Marshall mclun

971
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 12>but he says, sees the means of perception. So I

972
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 12>think a lot of magic starts in perception, Like you

973
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 12>were talking about Alexander the Nazi phenomena. I call it

974
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.920
<v Speaker 12>we was kings. Any all call to do this. They

975
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 12>always project themselves into the primordial past as the lineage progenitors.

976
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 12>It's it's every Okul group. There's there's zero that don't

977
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.519
<v Speaker 12>do this. So you know, it is what it is.

978
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 12>And I think the last thing I wanted to comment

979
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 12>on is why I forgot so But anyways, yeah, I

980
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 12>totally agree with you and I and I think that

981
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 12>people occultism as a source of like wisdom or knowledge.

982
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 12>I'm one hundred percent there, I think next one hundred

983
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:33.639
<v Speaker 12>percent there.

984
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we're all a hundred percent there.

985
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.679
<v Speaker 12>And like I think it's not about like the dualism

986
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 12>of like materialism versus spiritualism. I like to take a

987
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 12>non dual approaches, obviously because I'm a Buddhists, so but

988
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 12>I think we have to go like beyond the paradigms,

989
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 12>like exactly what you're saying, Like it's it's about pushing

990
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 12>the ideas outward and like it doesn't matter maybe an

991
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 12>idea is bad, maybe it's good, Like we have to

992
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.079
<v Speaker 12>see and we shouldn't be we as kings because you know,

993
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 12>not all their ideas are good. But we don't have

994
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 12>to discard everything that came before, just you know, kind

995
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 12>of see where, kind of see where things are.

996
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:11.480
<v Speaker 5>Soviets wanted to discard almost anything that was of the

997
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 5>Russian or Eastern history. They wanted, you know, to start

998
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 5>with a bank page, finished this imaginary war of classes,

999
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 5>the conflict between classes, and starting you with a perfect

1000
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 5>socialistic society. So it's another lesson that we shouldn't you know,

1001
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 5>we shouldn't also be too much attached to, of course

1002
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 5>the past stuff, but we shouldn't try to eliminate eliminate

1003
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.159
<v Speaker 5>it at all. Just as you mentioned old idea, isn't

1004
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 5>it but an idea at all.

1005
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.760
<v Speaker 11>Licanoism licenchoism is the word I was looking for before.

1006
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 11>So that's the sort of Soviet response to agriculture, was

1007
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:56.400
<v Speaker 11>this licankoism, which ended up killing fields all over the place.

1008
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 11>So that's always been used as this example of pseudoscience too.

1009
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's a kind of example of the scienceist. I

1010
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.559
<v Speaker 5>think it's in polished with Senko or something like that.

1011
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 9>Yes, Yes, didn't hit er like send a whole like

1012
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 9>brigade of motherfuckers to Tibet to Yes, Yes, because he

1013
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.159
<v Speaker 9>was like looking for some what is the place in Tibet,

1014
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 9>the spiritual place that it's.

1015
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:31.679
<v Speaker 12>Like they say, right, yeah, yes, they say Chambala. Chambala

1016
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 12>is a real place, but I'll tell you where that

1017
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:36.440
<v Speaker 12>place is. That place is in your mind. The mind

1018
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.800
<v Speaker 12>palace is in your mind obviously, and so it's not

1019
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 12>a real place. So let me just be very clear

1020
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.119
<v Speaker 12>about that. Set the record straight, like straight up. So

1021
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:47.559
<v Speaker 12>it's it's a it's a it's a place that you

1022
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 12>construct actually in your mind during visualization when you were

1023
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:52.400
<v Speaker 12>site Montras.

1024
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's something it's.

1025
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.519
<v Speaker 12>Like a ritual, you know, it has a ritual kind

1026
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 12>of Maybe it's the higher place you're going to hyperspace kingdom.

1027
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're like you know.

1028
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.559
<v Speaker 12>Childboarding in your mind, but in reality it really takes

1029
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.360
<v Speaker 12>place in your consciousness. I know Alexander doesn't love that

1030
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.440
<v Speaker 12>when I use that word last time, but I think

1031
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 12>it's frir though.

1032
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Actually I am not into Shambala as searching for physical

1033
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 5>place now only like Atlantis, Lamoria and stuff like that.

1034
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 5>So I would agree that probably if you have the

1035
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 5>knowledge or experience about that, that yes, Shambala could be

1036
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 5>like that, but you know it can be also what

1037
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 5>you're telling about us. The best example of I think

1038
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 5>that in the previous conversation I was talking about of

1039
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 5>esoteric and exoteric meaning. It's like understanding the Bible. What

1040
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 5>you know people going to church are mostly understanding is

1041
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 5>the exo, the the outer part of the meaning. Okay,

1042
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.320
<v Speaker 5>Jesus died on the cross, there were twelve apostles, et cetera.

1043
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Struct but the esoteric meaning the heat and occult inside

1044
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 5>of it is that. Okay, this is this may be

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<v Speaker 5>interpreted as a real story, but all it has also

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<v Speaker 5>a second meaning of metaphorical story. You know, Jesus being

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01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 5>born at the same time as you know, there's this

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<v Speaker 5>this sun is in this lowest point on the sky,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera. So I think it's a good example of

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<v Speaker 5>how Nazis were foolish about the Chambala, probably that they

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<v Speaker 5>missed them out. But that's yes. Exoterically it's okay, lots

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<v Speaker 5>of civilization and so on, but esoterically it's something different.

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<v Speaker 5>Just as you mentioned before.

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<v Speaker 9>They brought back some artifacts though, that's where the swastika

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<v Speaker 9>came from.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you.

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<v Speaker 9>Really think about it, it's like rules for thee but

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<v Speaker 9>not for me. We're allowed to have occultism, spirituality, looking

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01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.719
<v Speaker 9>for last civilizations. We're into all this shit, we're channeling gods,

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01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 9>we're doing all this, but you guys shouldn't have spirituality.

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<v Speaker 9>Fuck you, you need to be completely cut off from

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01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.119
<v Speaker 9>all this shit that we got going on, because if

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<v Speaker 9>you knew what we knew, then we can control you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's a great point. I always talk it about it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a hypocrisy of plenty of elites. I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was even doing the RGN of Elizabeth, the thirst that

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<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth said, Okay, we destroy all the occult all the

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<v Speaker 5>esoteric stuff in our country. But at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>as she was saying that, the public and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>persecuting and the kind of heresies, she was having a

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<v Speaker 5>personal occultist and she was using him for her own purposes.

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<v Speaker 5>So the same example, as he said.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what I'm talking about. They don't want us to

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<v Speaker 8>know what they know.

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<v Speaker 9>That's well, I was going to say, even if you

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<v Speaker 9>look like Abraham Lincoln was having like seances in the

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<v Speaker 9>White House, all of them know this stuff, they're all

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01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 9>into it, but they want to cut us off from that.

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01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 9>It's like, oh, okay, only you guys can know. You

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<v Speaker 9>will live right right, right, right, right right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree.

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<v Speaker 12>I just want to shout out that Hegel is actually Kabala.

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<v Speaker 12>If you really understand Hegel, it's also Kabala. Not saying

1084
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.679
<v Speaker 12>I agree with it, just saying it is Kabbala. And

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<v Speaker 12>Lisenko is the father of modern epigenetics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I agree with Lisenko.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't agree with Lisenko, but I think that you

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01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 12>just like what we're saying is like you can look

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01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 12>at wisdom science for specific seeds of knowledge, and so

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<v Speaker 12>in that case, the seed of epigenetics comes from Lysenko.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't agree with him, but again, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to agree.

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<v Speaker 12>With everybody to be able to sort of look at

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01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 12>their work and see, you know, what is going to

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01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 12>be generative? And I think that that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>like the New Aon is, like it's going to be

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01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 12>like what is actually generative? What is going to produce fruits?

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<v Speaker 12>And what is going to like take humanity. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 12>just all about taming your consciousness like I think, but

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01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.280
<v Speaker 12>maybe it's like you know, maybe it is finding Atlanta,

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01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.079
<v Speaker 12>So who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I think that that's an way to frame it. It

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01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.199
<v Speaker 1>We don't really know, but there's something I.

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01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 12>Think there's something fresh about being like optimistic instead of

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01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:07.400
<v Speaker 12>being like tumor.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you're you're approaching the monopolistic angle there. So there

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01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 11>might be elements of Lisenko that carry over. But in

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01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 11>the in the wholesale rejection of anything, you always end

1109
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:21.639
<v Speaker 11>up throwing the baby out with the bathwater and you

1110
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 11>don't see anything of value in it. So that's the

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01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:27.119
<v Speaker 11>big problem with monopolistic science is that you can never

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01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 11>take the elements and reform at them and use them

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<v Speaker 11>in other ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I believe the I don't know if it

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01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 2>was Lashenko, but the same mode of agriculture. But Stalin

1116
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 2>infamously grew in Marxist theory. You know, everyone coming together

1117
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 2>is equal. He put forth that idea into agriculture and

1118
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:55.760
<v Speaker 2>would grow many different types of wheat in the same fields,

1119
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and they all failed or one one would do well, right,

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01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 2>because each different we had its own needs that were

1121
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.920
<v Speaker 2>slightly different than the others. And so of course the

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01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Marxist theory, which is you know, very subjective, did not

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01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 2>work on very you know, objective agricultural processes, which they

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01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 2>thought it would m.

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<v Speaker 9>HM.

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<v Speaker 5>And the more comments are something else.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I do think go for go for please, Sorry, no,

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<v Speaker 12>I just I thought it was interesting, Alexander that you

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01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:39.119
<v Speaker 12>spoke about this. The Soviet kind of marriage of the

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01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 12>their psychical research was so it was even way more

1131
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:45.639
<v Speaker 12>than the Americans, like we talked about like obviously MK

1132
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.159
<v Speaker 12>and all that stuff, but the Soviets had like hundreds

1133
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:54.119
<v Speaker 12>of programs running that were identical or similar or even worse.

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<v Speaker 12>And so I just want to say that, like, yeah,

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01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.800
<v Speaker 12>like the Soviets did reject the supernatural less elements, but

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01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 12>they definitely embrace the psychical ones, and that there is

1137
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:07.000
<v Speaker 12>something useful and even in that framework, right, Like that's

1138
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 12>also what's interesting is like if you take away away

1139
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.480
<v Speaker 12>the supernatural sort of elements and the layer of story,

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01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 12>then you're actually talking about sort of our own cosmogenesis,

1141
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 12>like our own like story of humanity, rather than a

1142
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 12>story of like the deities or whatever you're talking about

1143
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 12>like fundamentally about us. So I plaud them for that,

1144
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 12>But I agree that you have to have the spiritual,

1145
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 12>you have to have like a there's a metaphysical layer

1146
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 12>like ontology.

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<v Speaker 1>Is everything, right, Yeah, I think we all agree on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yes, it's just that Soviets you know, labeled the

1149
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 5>psychic part as a material one because they thought that,

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01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:48.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, the psychic would turn out to be something

1151
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:53.000
<v Speaker 5>like gravity, all like force of electromagnetism that maybe right

1152
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 5>right at their time they do not understand it, but

1153
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 5>maybe in the future they will be able to measure

1154
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 5>it physically. But the day it couldn't do that. And

1155
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 5>there are plenty even of prototypes of you know, some

1156
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:08.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of machines that could you know, see the auras,

1157
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. And some of them, you know, allegedly work.

1158
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Some of them wear a complete crap because you know,

1159
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 5>it turned out that it wasn't within this realm that

1160
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 5>they were thinking this psychic capabilities are within.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. Did anybody else want to ask her at anything?

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<v Speaker 6>Before we wrap it up? I can finally jump in, Yeah,

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01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 6>go for it.

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<v Speaker 10>When I was talking about science earlier, I look at

1165
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.279
<v Speaker 10>it like this. I think, I think science is trying

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01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 10>to catch up with what our theories and ideas are,

1167
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 10>and because they don't have the ability to do so,

1168
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:49.800
<v Speaker 10>they push it to the side until something finally comes

1169
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 10>up and somebody in that you know, typical in that field,

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01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 10>like at modern academia and so on and so forth.

1171
01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 10>They don't want to lose their tenure or their seats

1172
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.359
<v Speaker 10>and their you know, wherever there, so they decide not

1173
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:03.520
<v Speaker 10>to say anything. So a lot of times, a lot

1174
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:05.960
<v Speaker 10>of them just keep it hush hush. But they be

1175
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.439
<v Speaker 10>in their houses practicing the same shit that we be practicing.

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01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:14.159
<v Speaker 10>Tarot's wugi bores, astro projection, lucid dreaming. They do that,

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<v Speaker 10>but they don't want to put their name on it

1178
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:18.479
<v Speaker 10>because they don't want to run the risk of somebody

1179
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.600
<v Speaker 10>talking about them. And a good example of that right

1180
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:23.159
<v Speaker 10>now is Ivy Lowe.

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01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 9>Right.

1182
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.319
<v Speaker 10>He keeps thinking that thing is as an extraterrestrial, right,

1183
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:31.399
<v Speaker 10>but people are saying that the facts are saying that

1184
01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 10>it's an asteroid. So now it's up to when it

1185
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.720
<v Speaker 10>finally shows up. How are we able to prove it otherwise? Right,

1186
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 10>Because we got a person from Harvard, from modern academia

1187
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 10>who's actually putting their name out there on the line

1188
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 10>and so on and so forth, and you know, people

1189
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.680
<v Speaker 10>are looking at him like he's crazy. But this dude

1190
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:50.760
<v Speaker 10>has a degree in this field, right, you know what

1191
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.279
<v Speaker 10>I'm saying. So who I mean, unless you have a

1192
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 10>degree in that field, What can you really say to

1193
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.239
<v Speaker 10>you know, counter that? And that's when it comes up

1194
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 10>to how do they prove their facts? What can they

1195
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:04.159
<v Speaker 10>give to us the lamest people out the group, you know,

1196
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 10>the non Harvards and you know all these other individuals.

1197
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 10>What can you give us that proves what you say

1198
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:14.159
<v Speaker 10>and backs up what you say with you know, clear

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01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.079
<v Speaker 10>cut evidence, right like the gun is at the scene

1200
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 10>with the fingerprints type thing I can see that has

1201
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.840
<v Speaker 10>clear evidence. What evidence do you have that portrays that?

1202
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:26.279
<v Speaker 10>And I think science a lot of people are very timid.

1203
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:28.279
<v Speaker 10>They don't want to they don't want to be the

1204
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:30.800
<v Speaker 10>roaring woolf that goes out there and says, hey, you

1205
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 10>guys are fucking They want to say, hey, you guys

1206
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 10>are misinterpreting, and they're being sweet and nice about it.

1207
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.960
<v Speaker 10>Before we even launched this this show, Nick were talking

1208
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:40.960
<v Speaker 10>about how many times have you went to somebody said

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01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 10>excuse me, and then the second third time you had

1210
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.680
<v Speaker 10>to say excuse me, motherfucker, just to get their attention.

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01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:48.640
<v Speaker 10>And that's what we need, is we need a moment

1212
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.720
<v Speaker 10>like that to get everybody's attention. And it's not going

1213
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 10>to help by to being the sweet and nice little

1214
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 10>people that we used to be. It's about time we start,

1215
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:58.960
<v Speaker 10>you know, roaring with the microphones, tearing the walls off

1216
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 10>the Jerusalem and this type of just that and the

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01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:01.840
<v Speaker 10>third type stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I add to the idea of the power

1220
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 2>for people, even stately people using these occult or metaphysical

1221
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:20.520
<v Speaker 2>or alchemical ideas. Just recently, Putin and Zea and what

1222
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:24.520
<v Speaker 2>is the North Korean guy met and were walking around

1223
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and on a hot mic. They were talking about how

1224
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:32.399
<v Speaker 2>at seventy you're just a baby nowadays, and that they

1225
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:36.880
<v Speaker 2>could live to be one hundred and fifty. And so

1226
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 2>they were very much interested in these alchemical ideas. But

1227
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.800
<v Speaker 2>they were talking about very physical, surgical things, I believe,

1228
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:53.720
<v Speaker 2>but interesting longevity and immortality, always a search for humanity

1229
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and even just randomly they're walking along and spoke about it.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's funny you say that. And I'll say this

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01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.720
<v Speaker 10>last thing. The Gnostics believe in internal life. You just

1232
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:08.159
<v Speaker 10>had to have knowledge within to achieve that. That's why

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01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:10.199
<v Speaker 10>they were so dangerous, and that's why they were looked

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01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:12.560
<v Speaker 10>as evil, because they if you could live long, you

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01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 10>can make a lot of different changes, right, whether it's

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01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:19.479
<v Speaker 10>for the good or the bad. A good person lives

1237
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:21.399
<v Speaker 10>long enough, they can make some changes. A bad person

1238
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:24.279
<v Speaker 10>lives long enough, you can make some changes. I mean,

1239
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 10>we've been been shown throughout historical events, right. But the

1240
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.479
<v Speaker 10>problem is, most of the time the nice ones usually

1241
01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 10>don't be able to get to make the changes that

1242
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:35.520
<v Speaker 10>they want to because they're being too nice at times

1243
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 10>and they're not roaring and letting people know, Hey, this

1244
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 10>has got to be done the right way and this

1245
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 10>is how it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, what the fucker that? I love it? Dude?

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01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:48.760
<v Speaker 6>Thank you to anybody else have anything they want to ed.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I just want to say, this is a great discussion.

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<v Speaker 11>I think once we go back to the philosophy of

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<v Speaker 11>science and start to deconstruct it where it's arts at

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<v Speaker 11>instead of where everything has ended up, that's when we

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<v Speaker 11>can start to really make the changes. Because a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of scientific people hear these kind of things and they

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<v Speaker 11>apply it to their own lives and they look at

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<v Speaker 11>what they're what they're doing, and it creates a sense

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<v Speaker 11>of self awareness. And I think that's at you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the fundamental level of the understanding of science is self awareness.

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<v Speaker 11>Like that's one of the first things you go into

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<v Speaker 11>objective states by understanding yourself and seeing yourself and understanding

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<v Speaker 11>where your biases are and everything else and being able

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<v Speaker 11>to identify that is the first goal in producing good science,

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<v Speaker 11>is being able to identify the pre existing biases and

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<v Speaker 11>all the problems with separation and all the rest of

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<v Speaker 11>these things, like you were talking about once, these different

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<v Speaker 11>facets of different countries and geographies that break off from

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<v Speaker 11>one another. If they had that self awareness, they can

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<v Speaker 11>not only take those elements that they've developed independently, but

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<v Speaker 11>integrate them in a much more you know, rationalist framework

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<v Speaker 11>that opens up people up to new ideas. But you know,

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<v Speaker 11>as long as it's all being dictated by war and

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<v Speaker 11>death and killing, you're not going to get that, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>and the biases are going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 9>I have just one thing to add to that, actually, Headless,

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<v Speaker 9>you inspired me. I think like the concept of like

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<v Speaker 9>science as we know it right now is like it's

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<v Speaker 9>like fiscar scissors and like preschool shit, like fucking putting

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<v Speaker 9>blocks together and stuff. But if you go back like

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<v Speaker 9>ancient Egypt, and they had fucking the Seven Sacred Sciences, Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>that's what they had they were way more advanced than us.

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<v Speaker 9>What we have now is dogshit compared.

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<v Speaker 8>To what they knew and the Seven Sacred Sciences.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, they had like arithmetic and whatever, but they

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<v Speaker 9>also incorporated spirituality and extra dimensional type of shit into

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<v Speaker 9>their Seven Sacred sciences.

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<v Speaker 8>So when we think of science now, it's like fucking.

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<v Speaker 9>Bill Nye in some you know, school program, stupid bullshit.

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<v Speaker 9>But what they had they could, like the architecture, everything,

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<v Speaker 9>It was a mixture of spirituality and science, and it

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<v Speaker 9>was actually a really amazing thing. I honestly think that

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<v Speaker 9>the Egyptians are like just a remnant of these civilizations

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<v Speaker 9>that Alexander was talking about, Atlantis, all of these places.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, I mean, I think that they target us

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<v Speaker 9>on a biological level. You know, if you guys have

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<v Speaker 9>heard about the god gene or whatever, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 9>basically inject us to death so that we're not able

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<v Speaker 9>to use that part of our brain and part of

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<v Speaker 9>our body. So yeah, yay for science shutting down our

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<v Speaker 9>god gene and calcifying our brain. That I mean, I

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<v Speaker 9>think it's just it's turned into almost like a dystopian

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<v Speaker 9>nightmare science.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not anything like what it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the institutions are sort of crumbling.

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<v Speaker 12>I think we're seeing a sort of you know, deconstruction

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<v Speaker 12>or maybe like an incoherence of the Saturnian institutions, because

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<v Speaker 12>institutions are both attorney and and solar in some ways,

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<v Speaker 12>because they have an outward presenting face and a more

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<v Speaker 12>occulted layer. So I think definitely we're seeing an icing

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<v Speaker 12>out of like people's perceptions of the institutions are kind

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<v Speaker 12>of ignoring it. And I think a lot more people

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<v Speaker 12>are interested in like metaphysics and the things that Alexander

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<v Speaker 12>talks about and that we all talk about. So I

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<v Speaker 12>think that's a you know that it's a very I'm

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<v Speaker 12>very optimistic. I have to say, like, I feel like

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01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:53.960
<v Speaker 12>people are really hungry for it, want to hear it,

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01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:57.319
<v Speaker 12>are like interested in like a totally new way. It's

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01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:01.119
<v Speaker 12>not so dogmatic as it was during cod times, and

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01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 12>we can all be a lot more open minded and

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<v Speaker 12>try and like figure it out for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it, We'll say, both of you. Before we

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<v Speaker 7>wrap it up, We'll let everybody plug their shows again

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<v Speaker 7>real quick. Go ahead, Julie. Let everybody know where they

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01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:18.159
<v Speaker 7>can find all your amazing work.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks for having me, Nick, I have this conversation. I

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01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 9>could talk about it all day. I have Cosmic Peach podcasts.

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<v Speaker 9>Wherever you listen to podcasts, Accult Reject part time, you

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01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:35.159
<v Speaker 9>can find me on Cult the Conspiracy Podcasts every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm everywhere and nowhere, So thank you for thank you

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<v Speaker 9>for having me though love being in a cult reject.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much for coming on. Julie.

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01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 7>Yes, she's like an eggor. We're going just everywhere right yet?

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01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:49.720
<v Speaker 7>Ten the Ninja? What is going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Sir?

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you so much for having me, and thank you

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01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 12>to the panel and of course Alexander. This was a

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<v Speaker 12>great part two and I always really enjoy hearing you

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01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 12>and I could probably listen for a longunger and not speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So much but appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 12>And yeah, if you want to check me out, Jim

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01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:07.279
<v Speaker 12>and ninjat Wukong, We're born to be uk O and

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<v Speaker 12>g Reborn. That's my personal account on ex Twitter at

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<v Speaker 12>Threshold Saints, which is for both ig and also x

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<v Speaker 12>Twitter if that's just the show account, and then the

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<v Speaker 12>Gray Lodge.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow us on YouTube.

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01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:22.119
<v Speaker 12>And as well on x Live of Friday Night Nastic

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01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.880
<v Speaker 12>Mass every Friday night speculative nassism, So come expand your mind.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go, there it is and Headless Giant.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you Nick, Thank you Alexander. This has been a great,

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01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:39.960
<v Speaker 11>great little interview. I think a lot of people are

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01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 11>hungry for this kind of knowledge so that they can have,

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01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:44.319
<v Speaker 11>you know, some sort of ammunition to fight back and

1353
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:46.640
<v Speaker 11>gets to people trying to fill them up with all

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01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:50.439
<v Speaker 11>sorts of science fluids and uh, you know, we got

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01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 11>to have that ammunition. So you can find me on

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<v Speaker 11>x and on YouTube look for the Headless Giant and yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>on Thursday nights and on Sunday mornings, we have a

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<v Speaker 11>show tomorrow. It's going to be the Trialoguess. And on

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01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:05.119
<v Speaker 11>Thursday we take your emails and if you send me

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01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 11>an email with your cult slash paranormal slash interesting dream experience,

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01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.880
<v Speaker 11>Nick will send you some free stickers. So go ahead

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01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 11>and send that to the Headless Giant at gmail dot

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01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 11>com or a Headless Podcast at gmail dot com and

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<v Speaker 11>we'll hear from you later.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, hell yeah, thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, send those stories over to Headless and Ethan my Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks everyone, Thanks Alexander, that was awesome. Yeah, check us

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<v Speaker 2>out tomorrow head lists and Ricardo and I'll be discussing

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary ideas and different different ideas every week. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on all the usual social media. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of books out there actually exploring non physical topics,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of it. So yeah again, Alexander, that

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<v Speaker 2>was awesome. Thanks you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, thank you for joining us. Ethan and Tyrone.

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<v Speaker 10>Sir, Hey, I appreciate Nick. Alexander was a great presentation man.

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<v Speaker 10>Like I said, man, you always come with the good

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<v Speaker 10>stuff to find that good information to the knowledge that

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<v Speaker 10>we need, you know, I you know, I really do

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01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:11.680
<v Speaker 10>appreciate that. Everything you can find on me is on

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01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.800
<v Speaker 10>my website, Rebirth of theWord dot com. I just created

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<v Speaker 10>a Rumbo account where I'm actually going to actual historical places.

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01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.760
<v Speaker 10>I appreciate that, Alexander. I'm going to actual historical places.

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<v Speaker 10>The last one I went to was just Fort George

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01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 10>Historic site in Georgia. I was representing Colt Rejects with

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01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.079
<v Speaker 10>the shirt, so you know, I was out there representing

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01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.119
<v Speaker 10>I've got to say, he doesn't promote his book. So

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<v Speaker 10>I do the geometry, the geometry of how to Meditate,

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01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:43.520
<v Speaker 10>and then uh, I got Alexander's burge get his book also.

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<v Speaker 10>I always actually I have a couple of Ethan's books.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just going to the next time he's on with me,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm going to promote the other one, so you know,

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<v Speaker 10>just keep it going for him since he forgets a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>But I appreciate it, y'all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh, thank you, thank you and uh finally Alexander,

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<v Speaker 7>and please let everybody know like about your books and

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01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.319
<v Speaker 7>stuff that you got as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you can find me on many social media like

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<v Speaker 5>you to Facebook, Instagram. Just the best way is copy

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<v Speaker 5>paste my name and surname Alexander Tashkevich. Sometimes the English

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<v Speaker 5>one is with Global, so Alexander Tishkevich Global, because I

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01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.560
<v Speaker 5>have also a Polish one. But you will see which

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<v Speaker 5>one is which one by the language, so don't worry.

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<v Speaker 5>And my book is Deja Vi Has Surfing Already Been?

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01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.680
<v Speaker 5>Jazz as Tyrone is showing us. It's on Amazon in

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01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 5>plenty of English speaking regions like USA, Canada, Australia. Just again,

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01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:37.960
<v Speaker 5>copy paste the title Deja Vu Has Surfing Already Been?

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<v Speaker 5>Or my name and surname and you will find it

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<v Speaker 5>in English. Thank you once again, thank you for all

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01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:50.239
<v Speaker 5>the good things you were talking about. I really am

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<v Speaker 5>happy that you liked. I see the comments also, people

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01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:59.479
<v Speaker 5>liked that you. Everyone here liked what I had to say,

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<v Speaker 5>and I can't wait for the talk about Atlantis. That

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<v Speaker 5>will be good to thank you once again.

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<v Speaker 7>Nick, Yeah, of course, no, thank you for bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 7>I was gonna leave the listeners with that. If you

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<v Speaker 7>enjoyed this show, hopefully within a few weeks while this

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01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:15.760
<v Speaker 7>man back on again, we'll be talking about Atlantis. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>looking very very much forward to that again. Alexander, thank

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<v Speaker 7>you so much for coming on. It's always a great chat,

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<v Speaker 7>always great discussion for real, and you know, the chat

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<v Speaker 7>loved it, and I appreciate everybody that was in the

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<v Speaker 7>chat on all channels that it was streaming out too.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of these are there from the beginning to end,

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01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:33.479
<v Speaker 7>and you all had great stuff to say. That's why

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<v Speaker 7>we go live and until the next one, everybody be well.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't talk anymore. We don't talk anymore, but we

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<v Speaker 3>don't love anymore. We don't talk anymore. They don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>any more.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't talk anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't talk any more.

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<v Speaker 10>Are don't get any more?

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<v Speaker 3>That mind like servant.

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<v Speaker 5>Like me sees a celebrating my prop to st job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just afering that I be wrong

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong, if you're looking into your eyes and she's old,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll tell you so tight the way I did

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<v Speaker 3>before
