WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.759 We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers. 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:05.160 Of the dreams. 3 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:27.160 Imagine what would it happen if we had and attracted 4 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.280 the magic we had back when we couldn't fathom life. 5 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.000 It is a fantasy, not with the fanity, not the 6 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.439 way it was back then. So I grabbed my pen 7 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:36.159 and write. 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:36.920 It down like a scription. 9 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.240 Missed the mistic making Hits for the Misfits, The show 10 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.960 where you don't know what you don't know when it's. 11 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:47.719 On again with Sewn and Jonathan Jem Welcome to Meta Mystics, 12 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.719 where you don't know what you don't know. My name's Jonathan, 13 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.359 I'm Sean, and today we have a very very special guest, 14 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.679 somebody who we've been looking forward to speaking to for 15 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.640 quite some time now and very honored to be in 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:02.079 your presence, Dana Kipple. 17 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:03.000 Welcome to the show. 18 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:05.799 Hi guys, thanks for having me. I'm so excited. 19 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.359 This is going to be so much fun. Really really 20 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.480 looking forward to this conversation you have. You have like 21 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:16.799 taken social media by storm, at least at my algorithm. 22 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.040 It has just constantly been blowing up for like a 23 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:21.760 couple of years now. All I see is you, and 24 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.519 I'm like always asmerized by everything that you got to 25 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:26.359 say and all the things that you're pointing out and 26 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.200 relating the spiritual world and the scientific world. 27 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:30.159 I love that stuff. 28 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.680 Thank you. Yeah, I mean I'm really trying. I you know, 29 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.640 I feel like my I think all our purpose on earth, 30 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.519 everyone's purpose is to express themselves and like what they 31 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:41.680 really feel and think. And I just try to do 32 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.319 that every day and right now, that's on social media. 33 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.840 Sometimes it's you know, through my books or movies and this. 34 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.200 You know, the ten minute or three minute reels are 35 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.239 like the quickest way for me to get stuff out 36 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:52.840 and then move on. 37 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.680 So, yeah, and those are those are some of my 38 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.519 favorite as far as like someone just jumping in front 39 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.879 of a microphone and just expressing their thought that the 40 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.400 having right now, because those are the things that are 41 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.920 very important. We can have an idea or an epiphany 42 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.599 and kind of just go am I crazy, I don't know, 43 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.280 and then you start doing something else and then it's 44 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.319 proof it's just gone. And so I really appreciate that 45 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.719 you're able to just jump on and do that. It 46 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:16.280 seems like kind of a spur of the moment you 47 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:17.960 just jump on and express that. 48 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.120 Yeah, it's not logical. It's like poetic. I guess it's 49 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.159 kind of like you know, romantic poetry or something. But 50 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.560 I would say I would say the more I let 51 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.840 myself go, the more accurate actually is. And when I 52 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.400 try to be logical or fact check, it's when it 53 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.039 gets messed up. So I always think, you know, as 54 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:39.759 long as I feel what I'm saying is true, that's 55 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.319 all that matters. And my truth can change tomorrow. But 56 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.599 I have this theory that when you're truly expressing yourself, 57 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:48.159 you're a portal, right for that higher intelligence to come 58 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:50.199 through to you or you and you guys will experience 59 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.960 it differently. So all I have to do is express 60 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.759 myself every day truly and the job will get done. 61 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.639 So I don't really worry about being right or wrong. 62 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:02.639 Definitely, Yeah, I would definitely appreciate that way more than 63 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:04.960 somebody that's just kind of stuck in their ways and 64 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.520 of the hive mind. As we were talking about kind 65 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.840 of before we were recording. You know, we're just kind 66 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.159 of the middle path kind of whatever you're feeling and 67 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.360 that's what you're experiencing and nobody can tell you otherwise. Yeah. 68 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:17.639 I was just thinking too, is that there's a lot 69 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.800 of people that don't really put a lot of credence 70 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.159 into their own thought, like into their own inner world, 71 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.719 because how can you rely on man's own understanding, right, 72 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:32.680 And I'm like, well, it's not necessarily that we're relying 73 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.759 on our own understanding. It is going within to try 74 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.639 and find some deeper wisdom because that's where you know, 75 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.039 God is or whatever the divine intelligence is, Right it 76 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:43.840 feels like that. 77 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.800 Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's a paradox. I 78 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.639 think like we're supposed to rely on our understanding, and 79 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.280 we're supposed to also go through understanding to that other 80 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.840 side of intelligence, Like the dark tunnel is the understanding 81 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:00.199 where we heal and grow, and there's tension, you know, 82 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.919 it's they've demonized it right as the dark feminine or 83 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.560 the siren or the demon, which is also known as 84 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:08.560 a diamond, which means you're energenious. Yes, And then on 85 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.280 the other side of that dark tunnel is like this 86 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.800 neon fluorescent light of intelligence, and I you know, I 87 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:15.759 know to get there, I have to go through the darkness. 88 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:21.000 Yeah, yeah, well that's and and that's usually what what 89 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.639 happens is is that as soon as you emerge from 90 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.439 the darkness or from the shadow, that you develop an 91 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:31.839 entirely new understanding of yourself and of reality. And and 92 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.680 it's it's just crazy. I mean anybody who goes through 93 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.319 any kind of dark knight of the soul, whether it's 94 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:41.199 some crazy event that happens in your life, or I 95 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.079 mean you have a near death experience or you have 96 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.399 like a crazy psychedelic trip that is just like okay, 97 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.720 well nothing exists. So you know, like all of them 98 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.160 can be really good teachers. 99 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.000 Yes, I will say, because I've seen people come back 100 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.240 from like psychedelic trips in ayahuasca, and I think they're 101 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:02.000 great catalyst. Yes, But I think when people if people 102 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.000 don't integrate it, that's when they'll get stuck in the 103 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.600 whole existential crisis. And it's like, I feel like, I 104 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.000 don't know how much to get into this, but I 105 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:12.959 feel like when you have a meditative experience or a 106 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:16.079 psychedelic experience, you can either be an extreme bliss or 107 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:17.839 you end up on the other side of that. There's 108 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.399 another side of a coin to everything, and that's complete darkness. 109 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:22.680 So you feel like there's nothing, but there really is 110 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.959 no such thing as nothing, it's everything. So it's you know, 111 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.560 people that have seen that and felt that, I want 112 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.000 to make them feel better. And like that doesn't mean 113 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.879 that nothing matters and nothing doesn't exist. You just you know, 114 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.879 got lost and you're in the flip side for whatever reason. 115 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.800 Yeah, that's why sometimes the extremes can be a little dangerous. 116 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.759 You know, you start leaning too far to one side 117 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.279 that the pendulum, the pendulum naturally wants to swing, start 118 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.360 to swing the other way, you know, and that's where 119 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:52.399 you start to learn the lesson and go, wait a minute, 120 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.319 you know, as true and authentic as I was being 121 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.160 and how how I saw this thing as being true? Well, 122 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.000 like now I'm looking at it kind of a different way, 123 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.879 and it's cool to be open to that. You know, 124 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.680 you've got to be open to being wrong. I think 125 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.000 so many people are so afraid, the same people that 126 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:09.879 are afraid to go into the darkness, So the same 127 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.360 people that are afraid to be wrong. It's okay to 128 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:12.800 be wrong. 129 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.319 That's when you learn, Yeah, it's the middle path. 130 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:17.839 It's it's yeah, it's not the bliss of the like, 131 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.240 you know, everything's on a pedestal. I'm God, and it's 132 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.600 not the like I'm a demon either, it's the Rainbow Serpent, it's. 133 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:25.959 It on you know. 134 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.240 Just before the show, I found this book that I 135 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.360 was that I had bought like a while ago, and 136 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.920 for some reason I never read it, and and it's 137 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:37.439 it's the Corpus Hermeticum. 138 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:38.680 Have you ever heard of this? 139 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:41.759 Yes, I think I've read it. Do you have it 140 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:42.319 on you or no? 141 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:43.560 Yeah? 142 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:44.959 What does it look like? See? 143 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.079 Well this is it's in better English, but it's the 144 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.319 Way of Hermes. 145 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:52.160 Yeah, I've read a bunch of those things, but I 146 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:53.519 know about it. Tell me, what are you thinking? 147 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.639 Oh my god, I only read the first book. And 148 00:06:55.759 --> 00:07:00.079 so it's a compendium of seven of seventeen books, and 149 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.240 and a lot of them it's it's just Hermes talking 150 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.800 or somebody else talking, and it's all just like kind 151 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:09.120 of inward conversation that you're having with the all essentially. 152 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:14.120 And in the first book is about the Poimanders or 153 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.160 Poimanders I don't know how to say it, which is 154 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.680 said to be the Noose or just the mind of 155 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.120 the universe essentially right, and it talks about like how 156 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.000 everything was created and even the Noose doesn't really fully 157 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:31.399 know what it's doing here in God itself almost doesn't 158 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.480 even know what it's doing here, so it decided to 159 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.240 multiply and create, and you know, I mean it is 160 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:38.480 in legit. 161 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.360 The first book was eight pages. 162 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:42.439 I was like, Oh my god, it's most crazy eight 163 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:43.839 pages of a book that I've ever read. 164 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:44.279 It's wild. 165 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:45.600 That's my kind of book, man. 166 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.480 That's my one to wait. That's so interesting. So what 167 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.439 you're calling the news I would call what I call 168 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.000 four deep plasma. It's kind of just this middle layer 169 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.759 between you know, this fifth dimensional intelligence and our three 170 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.120 dimensional physical self. Right, It's like the realm of our 171 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.639 higher selves and ourself. And then there's this middle layer 172 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.279 where it's like intelligent clay, where we're molding reality out 173 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:09.480 of right, and it's you can't conceptualize as a human 174 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.519 the fifth mental intelligence without it going through the costume 175 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.959 of costume of the fourth dimensional layer, painted by your 176 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:20.120 emotions and archetypes and feelings, right, and these things. But 177 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:21.920 I was going to say about that, you said something 178 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:25.560 that made me think that news, Oh, it doesn't know 179 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.399 what it's doing here. So there's a mythology about the 180 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.240 sleeping giant, a female sleeping giant, and how she's like 181 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.840 in the middle of waking up. And I always refer 182 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.440 to that layer that some people have called the living 183 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:40.279 waters or maya, the illusion that it's starting to wake up. 184 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.080 Maybe it's becoming conscious. Maybe we're all waking up, so 185 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.960 it's starting to become more intelligent. But it's seeming like 186 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.399 we're all becoming these like master manifestors for better or worse. 187 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.000 So that's why right now, I feel like my job 188 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.919 is to stress the inner technology, because if we don't 189 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.759 work on our inner technology, which is consciousness working with 190 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.879 this plasma right with this reality, were going to manifest 191 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:04.000 continuously negative things because most of us are in a 192 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.840 survival consciousness, and then we're going to make bad machinery 193 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.039 that also drains the earth because we're all stuck in 194 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.000 this lower consciousness. 195 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.480 Yeah, one hundred percent agree. There there has to be 196 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.360 some kind of integration that we can almost like evolve 197 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:23.279 with the with the earth and with like the spiritual realm. 198 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.080 And I feel like everything that is human that humanity 199 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.879 has done up to this point has gone completely against that, 200 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.399 as far as architecture and you know, the economy, and 201 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.799 just how we treat everybody and everything and and it's 202 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.919 it's it's kind of crazy, but I feel like this. 203 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:40.399 I don't know when it happened. 204 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.000 I know that some people say that it was the 205 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.320 end of an age and uh oh yeah, uh you know, 206 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.720 maybe we're coming into the age of Aquarius, or maybe 207 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.639 it's the end of the uh the yuga. 208 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.720 It's yeah, I mean there, it's obviously it's across all traditions, right, 209 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.120 that we're entering this new age. I think that's like 210 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.080 the common shift in the Mayan twenty twelve. Sorry, my 211 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.960 dog's barking in the background, but that usually means we're 212 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:10.360 onto something when she does that. But I think, sorry, 213 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.200 what were you saying we're coming into a new age? 214 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:13.159 What was the point of that? 215 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:13.759 I forget. 216 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.440 It just seems like the way that you do that 217 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:21.399 reality used to work is starting to change a little bit. 218 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:23.759 And I almost wonder, is is there a little bit 219 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:24.320 of friction? 220 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:27.639 Ye that some people were thinking. 221 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.879 That the way that the New Earth, for lack of 222 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:33.559 a better term, should be and almost the other side, 223 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.240 which is trying to merge man with machine almost you know, 224 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.639 with AI and everything, yeah. 225 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.799 Which is so annoying. I think that, yes, it I 226 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.799 think we started out as a matriarchal society right where 227 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.720 women had the power and the goddess was worshiped, and 228 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.279 I think it was actually tipped in that direction and 229 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.240 that got too much, And then I think that's why 230 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.000 we actually did seesaw to the more patriarchal side, right 231 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.320 where consciousness almost split from this plasma, this goddess, where 232 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.519 there's no longer a God and his wife, you know, 233 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.440 like a Shira polls. We're all knocked down God's wife 234 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:06.919 and there was just God all of a sudden, the 235 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:12.600 religions of Christian Christianity and these monotheistic religions, and it's 236 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:14.759 now we're almost like I don't think we're going back 237 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:17.000 into the age of the Goddess. I think we're remembering 238 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.279 the goddess and then fusing that with the divine masculineto birth, 239 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.720 the age of the child or the age of Aquarius, 240 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:27.600 where it's more about neutrality and a mix of technology 241 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:32.240 and human but not together. It's more growing our consciousness 242 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.799 so we can make supportive technology that helps enhance our consciousness, 243 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.080 almost picture like what they did in Egypt, or it's 244 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:42.840 like technology based on like sacred geometry and vibration. I 245 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:44.519 think like we're going to have more stuff like that 246 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:46.919 in the future. But I think we actually had to 247 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:51.120 go through this separation and this contrast to know it 248 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.679 doesn't work to arrive at this point, Like I think 249 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.200 it all divinely happened, even though it was so annoying. 250 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.960 But yeah, now we're coming into this, I would say, 251 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.600 more equal liberty and who knows what will come out 252 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:01.799 of that. 253 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.600 Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. And I owned not 254 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.159 to get super weird here, but I only wonder where. 255 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.360 I only wonder where the Western world would be if 256 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.480 it wasn't for such people as Madam Blovotsky and Aleister 257 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.440 Crowley bringing over the Eastern mysticism over to the West. 258 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.039 You know what a crazy different world it might be 259 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:23.879 if it wasn't for that. 260 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:30.879 Theosophy has been hugely integral in my work, so weirdly enough, 261 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.559 this stuff that I kind of come to in my meditations, 262 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.600 Like I remember when I first was on this journey 263 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.720 five years ago. I would look stuff up and it 264 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.360 was like a lot of what Helena Blovotsky was already saying, 265 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.480 and I was like, oh my god, like they knew 266 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.279 a hundred years ago, Like they just didn't have the word, 267 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.080 you know, plasma or these certain words, and I'll explain 268 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:50.919 what it is for everyone who's new, who isn't listening. 269 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:52.840 But yeah, she taught like even back then, she came 270 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.519 up with something called the life Adam and talked about 271 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.879 how that Adam has to do with like love and 272 00:12:58.039 --> 00:12:59.639 what is it? Hold on love? Do you know what 273 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:03.320 I'm talking about? Life Atam to Google is really quick? 274 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.159 That's okay. This is really interesting because I think she 275 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:07.480 was right, and I think we're gonna come back to 276 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.840 this and science. So I want to say, okay, that 277 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.159 every particle of matter contained divine life. Yeah, but there 278 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:18.440 was like love, free will and something else. I seemed 279 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:24.200 like a Google life life Adams she called them. Oh okay, 280 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.360 there was like I don't know, someone will have to 281 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.360 look it up. But if someone can look up life Adam, 282 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.559 there's three parts of it. How now it's a proton, 283 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.840 electron on neutron. Let me chat you be to this 284 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:40.120 ship life Adam, proton and electron neutron. What did Helena 285 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:48.240 Lovotsky say those stood for? Because it's so interesting. 286 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.399 And honestly, you know, she brought over a lot from 287 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.279 like India and stuff like that. 288 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.200 I want to say, right, uhh yeah, and they do, so, oh, 289 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.440 here we go. Yes, So she said the adam was 290 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.600 really a trainity. The proton was life will or the 291 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:07.639 positive principle, the initiating force, and then the electron was 292 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.159 the mind or the circulating principle something like that, and 293 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:17.919 then the neutron must more like like a neutroal. I 294 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:19.960 think it kind of stands for like the mother, the father, 295 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.960 and the child in a way. I'm butchering this, but 296 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:24.159 someone can look it up on their own. 297 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.679 Yeah, there has to be a trinity for any kind 298 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.360 of creation like there, there just has to be. That's 299 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.639 you know, it's the same thing that goes for shapes 300 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.360 even you know, with just one it's a dot. With 301 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.240 two it's a line, three starts to form, you know. 302 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:43.879 So it makes sense some kind of three energies coming 303 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.840 together in my mind any way. 304 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.639 Yeah, I think that's why we're coming into like computing 305 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.480 uses binaries, years and ones, right, even I think quantum 306 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.159 computing does two, which is so I think that there's 307 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.399 this undiscovered third way of computing that has to do 308 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:07.559 with consciousness that uses more like ternary. It goes above duality, 309 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:09.080 and I don't know if that is yet, and I 310 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.679 wish I could speak about it more. But I have 311 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:13.639 that intuition that there's a way we haven't discovered yet, 312 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.399 or maybe we haven't just not out there that goes 313 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.159 beyond the duality. 314 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.600 I believe that actually in quantum computing, they go beyond 315 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.240 just ones and zeros. They go you can have a 316 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.279 one or a zero, or you can have a zero 317 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.360 and a one or a one and a zero. 318 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.919 Yes, no you can. But there's something with like I 319 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.200 just I think, I still think we're going the wrong way. 320 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:38.840 Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. 321 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.279 Yeah, because I wish I knew it better. 322 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:47.240 It's still trying to evolve technology over evolving the human 323 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:51.799 and integrating the humanness or the life force or the 324 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.720 spirit of everything together. It is trying to connect everything 325 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:59.240 through essentially technology and electricity, which is you know, which 326 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.679 is great for convenience sake, There's no doubt about it. 327 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.639 Like I love the convenience of AI. I love the 328 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.639 convenience of not having to start a fire every night. 329 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.039 I can just flick the lights on. Yeah, But ultimately, 330 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.240 like I think that there is a point where it 331 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:14.279 could go too far. 332 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:17.080 Yeah, Like, and I think I was wrong. I do 333 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.559 think quantic computing does use the ternary thing I think, 334 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.399 but I what I was thinking in my mind is 335 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.279 that there's something I think we're going to have a 336 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.000 computer that's like beyond using math. It's going to be 337 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.840 more like systems theory and geometry and like water and plasma. 338 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:38.639 Like there's going to be some kind of like softer 339 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.759 technology computers we make in the future that are way 340 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.159 more beneficial to the Earth and humanity than what we 341 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.159 have now. 342 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.799 I would hope that sounds awesome. By the way, just 343 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.879 out of curiosity, what started you on this whole path, 344 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.159 like this whole journey towards your research, and like, was 345 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.919 there something that really pushed you in that direction? 346 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.559 It's so no, and yes, so it was a breakup, 347 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.319 which is the most like hilarious, like girl reason ever 348 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.599 as you drank the Hello Kiddy. 349 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:11.680 Mug it's. 350 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:19.519 Right funny though, Okay, but no, I think basically when 351 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.319 I was like thirty or thirty one, this like five 352 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.119 years ago, I went through a really bad betrayal with 353 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:27.599 the boyfriend I had, and it kind of resurged everything 354 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.680 in me, Like from when I was younger, and all 355 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.799 these you know traumas I hadn't worked through right, just 356 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.039 kind of broke my heart open and I just wanted 357 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.359 to feel better. So I started to look towards meditation 358 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.599 and you know, spiritual things, and I start I meditated 359 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.319 for the first time, transcendental meditation, and like the first 360 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:49.279 couple of meditations, and I was like acting and directing 361 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.319 like I was. I was always, I guess, like metaphysical spiritual, 362 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.359 but I wasn't like super into these things. I didn't 363 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.880 know what plasma was or anything, right, I didn't I 364 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.400 have didn't have spiritual practices. I was just like interested 365 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.920 in out of the box stuff. And I meditating all 366 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.519 of a sudden, I just like come out of it, 367 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:09.880 and I knew all this stuff like it was like 368 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.599 plasma's intelligence, it is the vehicle for consciousness. And I 369 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.400 was like, what's plasma? Like I knew, but I couldn't 370 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.559 conceptualize it. And then it was like a five year 371 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.640 journey of like piecing together the things in English that 372 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.279 I could see in my mind and feel in my heart. 373 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.480 And so what drew me to it was I think 374 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.200 it came to me and I think I put myself 375 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.079 in a receptive state for the first time in my 376 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.119 entire life, like I'd always numb myself with like you know, 377 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.000 drugs and alcohol, boyfriends, love negative thinking. I never took 378 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.599 a second to slow down and stop. And the minute 379 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.920 I did, my you know one, I guess of my 380 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.839 destinies fell right into me. And that's why I think 381 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.720 meditation is an amazing gateway drug do all these things. 382 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:55.799 And then you know, I had I got into therapy 383 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:57.960 because I wanted to make sure I integrated the things, 384 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:00.640 the visions I was seeing. I didn't want to become 385 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.119 another one of those spiritual influencers who's like all high 386 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.440 up in the clouds, not grounding anything in reality. So 387 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.079 the more I heal, the more I felt like I 388 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:12.960 was able to integrate it. And then yeah, so basically 389 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.359 what I conceptualize out of the whole thing is there 390 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.839 is you know, a plasma in science that's an ionized gas. 391 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.200 It's the forestate of matter. You know, we study it. 392 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:24.599 It's lightning, it's a neon. Science is a cold plasma. 393 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.880 It is in the Aurora borealities, the glowing lights that 394 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:32.039 happened during solar flares above Earth that are all different colors. 395 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.759 And then there is multidimensional plasma, which is basically, if 396 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.119 you're looking at an elephant and you're looking at its leg, 397 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.200 you're using a lens of science, and you see physical plasma. Right, 398 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:44.640 that's in our material reality makes up ninety nine point 399 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.279 nine percent of visible matter. I say that there's an 400 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:51.200 expanded plasma. It is multidimensional, it is sentient, it is 401 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.880