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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello it is It's really fantastic to have you back

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<v Speaker 2>with us for this discussion. I was actually I was

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<v Speaker 2>staring at my bookshelf this morning. Well, I say bookshelf,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it's more of a right, it's a chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>pile of paper and half read journals. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking at this mess and just thinking about rules. As

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<v Speaker 2>a species, we are just so obsessed with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. Absolutely, we crave patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>We really do. We want to know that a leads

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<v Speaker 2>to be and that the socks go on the top

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<v Speaker 2>drawer and the heavy winter coats go in the closet.

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<v Speaker 2>We need that order.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a survival mechanism, really, I mean, if our

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<v Speaker 3>ancestors couldn't wreckgize the pattern of say, rustling grass usually equals.

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<v Speaker 2>Predator right, run away exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We wouldn't be sitting here recording this analysis right now

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<v Speaker 3>if they hadn't found order in the noise. We are

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<v Speaker 3>completely hardwired for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the funny thing is we don't just apply that

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<v Speaker 2>to the savannah or our closets. We project that exact

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<v Speaker 2>same desire for order onto the cosmos itself.

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<v Speaker 3>We want the universe to be tidy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, For the longest time, we looked up at the

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<v Speaker 2>night sky and just assumed there was this cosmic building code,

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<v Speaker 2>like a set of architectural blueprints that every single star

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<v Speaker 2>system had to follow and to be fair.

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<v Speaker 3>For a while, looking at our own neighborhood, it seemed

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<v Speaker 3>like a pretty rock solid argument because.

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<v Speaker 2>The Solar system is surprisingly neat.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. It's easy to assume your own backyard

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<v Speaker 3>is the standard for the entire neighborhood. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the solar system, it's astonishingly tidy. It's almost clockwork.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a very specific layout. So let's actually dismantle

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<v Speaker 2>that Solar system standard before we completely blow it up

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<v Speaker 2>later in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at the Sun and it's eight planets

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<v Speaker 2>and sorry, Pluto, we're still not counting you today. But

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<v Speaker 2>you see two very distinct neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's essentially a tail of two zones. In the

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<v Speaker 3>inner zone huddle really close to the Sun, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the terrestrial planets.

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<v Speaker 2>Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the rocks. They're relatively small, they're dense, they're

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<v Speaker 3>rich in iron and silicates. They're solid worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think of them as the heavy metal band

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<v Speaker 2>of the Solar System.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually not a bad way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you cross a boundary. In astronomy, we call

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<v Speaker 3>this the frost line or the snow line.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a super crucial concept for what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about today.

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<v Speaker 3>It is this line is the specific distance from the

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<v Speaker 3>star where the temperature drops enough for volatile compounds to.

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<v Speaker 2>Freeze things like water, ammonia, methane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they can dense into solid ice grains. Inside that line,

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<v Speaker 3>it's too hot vapor. But outside that line, water is

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<v Speaker 3>essentially a solid rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice behaves like rock out there, exactly, And.

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<v Speaker 3>That boundary marks the beginning of the outer zone. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the realm of the gas giants and the ice giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Jupiter, Saturn, Urinus, Neptune right.

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<v Speaker 3>And his worlds are just massive. They dominate the outer

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<v Speaker 3>system with thick, swirling atmospheres that are thousands of miles deep.

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<v Speaker 2>So the cosmic building code that we wrote based on

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<v Speaker 2>this observation was pretty simple. Rocks on the inside, gas

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<v Speaker 2>giants on the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And this wasn't just an aesthetic choice by early astronomers, right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there is hard physics backing this up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's very solid physics behind it. It all comes

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<v Speaker 3>down to the behavior of the protoplanetary disk.

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<v Speaker 2>The swirling saucer of gas and dust that surrounds a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Star right when a system is forming. The area close

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<v Speaker 3>to the star is an absolute inferno. The intense radiation

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<v Speaker 3>and the heat they prevent those really light gases like

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<v Speaker 2>They just get blasted away.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactlyactly, blown away by stellar winds. And more importantly, the

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<v Speaker 3>seeds of the planets in that inner zone are made

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<v Speaker 3>only of rock and metal, which are actually pretty rare

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a scarcity of building materials close to

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<v Speaker 3>You do you can only build a small planet because

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<v Speaker 3>there just isn't enough rock to build a big one,

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<v Speaker 3>and because it's so hot, even if you did grab

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<v Speaker 3>some gas, you can't hold onto a thick atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>It just boils off.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets stripped away. It's like trying to hold a

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<v Speaker 3>snowball in a sauna. It's just not going to last.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas if we travel past the frost line.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a totally different story out there. It's freezing.

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<v Speaker 3>Ices are solid, so suddenly there is a massive abundance

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<v Speaker 3>of building material because ice is incredibly common.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can build a much bigger core.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you can build a solid core that is ten,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe fifteen times the mass of Earth. And once a

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<v Speaker 3>planetary core gets that heavy, it's gravity becomes so strong

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<v Speaker 3>that it starts sucking up all the gas in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tipping point, right, It.

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<v Speaker 3>Becomes a runaway process, vacuums up the hydrogen and helium,

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<v Speaker 3>and boom, you get a Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>So the logic is completely sound. Heat creates rocks, cold

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<v Speaker 2>creates giants. We had the observation, we had the physics,

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<v Speaker 2>and we basically wrote the law, and.

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<v Speaker 3>For decades pretty much all planetary formation models were built

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<v Speaker 3>entirely around this architecture. We just assumed that if we

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<v Speaker 3>looked at other stars we would see the exact same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, which perfectly brings us to our topic today. Because

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<v Speaker 2>of the universe, as it turns out, really enjoys mocking

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<v Speaker 2>our laws.

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<v Speaker 3>It does have a habit of doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just when we thought we had the blueprint figured out,

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<v Speaker 2>we found a system that is essentially looking at our

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<v Speaker 2>physics textbooks and laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely curveable, a massive one.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we are exploring a distant planetary system that

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<v Speaker 2>is breaking all the rules, a system that is making

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<v Speaker 2>astronomers question the very timeline of how worlds are actually born.

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<v Speaker 3>And the system we're talking about is known as LAHS nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh three LHS nineteen oh three.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And I really want to be clear about the

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<v Speaker 3>stakes here for everyone listening. This isn't just about finding

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<v Speaker 3>a weird planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because we find great planets all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>We do diamond planets, lava worlds. But this is about

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<v Speaker 3>finding a planet that, according to our standard models of

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<v Speaker 3>accretion and migration, physically shouldn't exist where it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an impossible object based on the rules we just

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<v Speaker 2>laid out.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an absolute enigma, and solving it requires us

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<v Speaker 3>to completely abandon the idea that planetary systems are these

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<v Speaker 3>static structures. We have to start treating them as dynamic,

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<v Speaker 3>evolving timelines.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that distinction. Space isn't just a place, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a sequence of events. So here is the roadmap for

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<v Speaker 2>our discussion today. We're going to transport ourselves to LHS

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh three, just to set the scene. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to look at the impossible planet that was

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<v Speaker 2>discovered by this massive international.

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<v Speaker 3>Team, the twist in the story right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're going to spend some serious time on the

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<v Speaker 2>detective work because the researchers tried really, really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>prove this planet was just a mistake in the data.

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<v Speaker 3>They did everything they could to kill their own anomaly.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally we will unpack the radical new theory of

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<v Speaker 2>inside out formation that they propose to explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a classic scientific mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the setting. Take us to LHS nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>oh three. If I am looking out the window of

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<v Speaker 2>my spaceship, what kind of star am I looking at?

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<v Speaker 3>You are looking at a red dwarf star. Now, we

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<v Speaker 3>often hear red dwarfs and think small dim, maybe a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Boring, just a little glowing ember.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But these are actually the most common stars in

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<v Speaker 3>the entire galaxy. They're called m dwarfs. LHS nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 3>three is smaller than our Sun, it's cooler than our Sun,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is much much redder.

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<v Speaker 2>So if it's cooler than the Goldilock zone.

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<v Speaker 3>The habitable zone where water can be liquid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that zone would be much closer in than it

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<v Speaker 2>is around our Sun, much closer.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire scale of the system is sort of shrunken down.

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<v Speaker 3>The planets are huddled closer to the fire, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>But M dwarfs are also tricky. They can be very active,

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<v Speaker 3>flaring violently, and that complicates the whole atmosphere tripping mechanic

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<v Speaker 2>If it's it's growing out massive flares, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>blast away atmospheres even more aggressively.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Now, this system has been under surveillance for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a brand new star we just noticed, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The team observing it has been at it for a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's co led by researchers from McMaster University and the

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they've been doing incredible work using a combination

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<v Speaker 3>of ground based telescopes and space based data to really

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<v Speaker 3>understand the architecture of this specific system.

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<v Speaker 2>And initially this system looked like it was following the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good, law abiding star system.

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<v Speaker 3>It really seemed to be. Before this recent discovery, we

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<v Speaker 3>knew of three planets orbiting LHS nineteen oh three. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>call them the original trio. Okay, the original trio, and

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<v Speaker 3>their layout was incredibly comforting to astronomers because it perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>matched the pattern we expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk us through that inventory. What did the map look

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<v Speaker 2>like originally?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, closest to the star, you have the inner planet,

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<v Speaker 3>and as expected, it is a rocky world. It's bathed

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<v Speaker 3>in radiation and it's incredibly hot. It has a high density.

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<v Speaker 3>It fits that inner zone profile perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>Check just like Mercury or Earth. Yeah, a rock near

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<v Speaker 2>the star exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you move a little further out you find planet

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<v Speaker 3>two and planet three, and these are not rocks. The

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<v Speaker 3>team characterize them as miniature neptunes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's define that really quick. When we say mini neptune,

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't talking about a water world.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we not necessarily water? No, we are talking about

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<v Speaker 3>planets that have a solid core, likely rock and ice,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are enveloped in a very thick hydrogen and helium.

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<v Speaker 2>Envelope, so they are gas dominated very much.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have low densities. You couldn't land a spaceship

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<v Speaker 3>on them. You would just sink through the cloud layers

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<v Speaker 3>until the atmospheric pressure crushed you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so look at the map so far. Inner zone

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<v Speaker 2>is a rock. Middle zone is gas. That sounds extremely familiar.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the standard blueprint. You move away from the star,

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>If the survey had just stopped right there, LHS nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>It would just be in a textbook as example a

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<v Speaker 3>It really would nothing to see here, folks. The physics works.

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<v Speaker 2>But science is rarely that kind to us. The team

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<v Speaker 3>They did not, and this is where the instrumentation really

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to pause on CHIOPS because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>but for this specific kind of detective work. It is

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute beast.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a total marvel of engineering. CHOPS stands for

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<v Speaker 3>characterizing exoplanet satellite. And note the word characterizing, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't a hunter like the Kepler telescope was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>scanning thousands of stars just looking for random blips. Cheops

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<v Speaker 3>is a sniper. It stares at stars we already know

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<v Speaker 3>have planets.

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<v Speaker 2>Why dedicate a whole satellite to stare at something we've

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<v Speaker 3>Precision, it's all about precision. Uses ultra high precision transit photometry.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning it watches the shadow.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It measures the tiny dip in light as a

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<v Speaker 3>planet crosses the face of the star. But it does

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<v Speaker 3>this with such extreme sensitivity that it can determine the

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<v Speaker 3>exact radius of a planet to a refined degree that

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<v Speaker 3>ground based telescopes simply cannot match.

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<v Speaker 2>Because ground telescopes have to look through Earth's messy atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the atmosphere blurs the starlight. CHOPS is above all that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the difference between seeing a blurry shadow passed

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<v Speaker 2>by a frosted window versus seeing the crisp silhouette of

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<v Speaker 2>a specific person and knowing exactly what kind of hat

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very fair analogy. And this precision is

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<v Speaker 3>vital because it allows us to calculate density properly. If

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<v Speaker 3>you know the exact size from the transit shadow, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know the mass from other methods, like how much

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<v Speaker 3>the planet's gravity makes the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Wobble the radial velocity exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You can bind size and mass and you get density,

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<v Speaker 2>So chi Ops is just staring at LHS nineteen oh three,

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<v Speaker 2>refining the data on those three known planets, just doing

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<v Speaker 3>A blip, a blip, a fourth signal in the data.

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<v Speaker 3>After years of characterization efforts, the light curve revealed a

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<v Speaker 2>Three E planet E. Okay, So, now, knowing what we

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<v Speaker 2>know about the Standard Model and knowing that we already

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<v Speaker 2>have rocks on the inside and gas on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>in the system, where's this new planet located?

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<v Speaker 3>That is the multimillion dollar question. LHS nineteen oh three

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<v Speaker 3>is the farthest planet from the star. It orbits way

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<v Speaker 3>outside the path of those two mini Neptunes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we are in the deep outer zone. We

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<v Speaker 2>are well past the frost line. We are in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct. We are out in the region where the protoplanetary

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<v Speaker 2>So, by every law of physics we discussed earlier, planet

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<v Speaker 2>E should be a gas giant. Absolutely, it should be

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<v Speaker 2>another mini Neptune, or maybe even a full Neptune. It

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<v Speaker 3>That is the overwhelming expectation. But when the team crunched

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<v Speaker 3>the density numbers from the CHIOPS data, the result was

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<v Speaker 3>completely unambiguous. LHS nineteen oh three. E is not a

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<v Speaker 3>gas giant.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a rocky planet.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes absolutely zero sense under the core accretion model.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's visualize this planetary sandwich. We have the star, then

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<v Speaker 2>a rock, then gas, then more gas, and then way

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<v Speaker 2>out in the cold another rock.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. It's like walking out into the ocean, getting past

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<v Speaker 3>the crashing breakers, swimming way out into the deep water,

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<v Speaker 3>and suddenly you just step on dry land.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Why is this physically impossible though? I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>rocks can exist anywhere, right, Asteroids are rocks out in

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<v Speaker 2>the cold. Pluter is mostly rock and iceed. Why can't

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<v Speaker 2>a full planet be a rock out there?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about mass and gravity. To be a planet

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<v Speaker 3>of this size, and Planet E is what we call

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<v Speaker 3>a super Earth, so it's substantial. You have to form

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<v Speaker 3>a core that is roughly five to ten times the

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<v Speaker 3>mass of Earth. Okay, and once a protoplanet reaches that

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<v Speaker 3>specific mass threshold, its gravity becomes too strong. It automatically

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<v Speaker 3>starts holding onto hydrogen and helium gas.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes that vacuum cleaner we talked.

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<v Speaker 3>About yes, and out in that orbit during formation there

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<v Speaker 3>should have been plenty of gas to vacuum up. So

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<v Speaker 3>if it formed there and it got big enough to

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<v Speaker 3>be a super Earth, it must have an atmosphere. Physics

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<v Speaker 3>demands it, but it doesn't. It doesn't. The fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it is naked, just a bare rock, implies that something

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<v Speaker 3>stopped the vacuum cleaner from working, or there was simply

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the massive friction point for astronomers. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge core sitting in what should be a gas

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<v Speaker 2>rich environment, but it has no gas. It's like finding

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<v Speaker 2>a sponge at the bottom of a swimming pool that

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<v Speaker 2>is completely bone dry.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the perfect image for it, and that dry

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<v Speaker 3>sponge forced the research team to play detective. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>just publish a paper and say, well, physics.

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<v Speaker 2>Is broken, right, They'd be laughed out of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to rule out every other conceivable explanation. First.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to to prove this wasn't just a misinterpretation

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<v Speaker 3>of normal events.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's enter the CSI exoplanet phase of our discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>When you find an anomaly like this, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>assume you were just missing a piece of the history,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first assumption in astronomy is usually that something

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<v Speaker 2>violent happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Violence is definitely a common theme in planetary history. So

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<v Speaker 3>the first theory the team tested was the giant impact hypothesis, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that planet Ease actually was a gas giant

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<v Speaker 2>once it followed the rules, it had a thick atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>and then wham exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The theory posits that the planet formed correctly as a

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<v Speaker 3>meaning neptune, but then a massive object, perhaps a rogue

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<v Speaker 3>planetary embryo or a huge asteroid struck it with unbelievable energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough energy to just blast the atmosphere away.

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<v Speaker 3>Into space right leaving only the dense rocky core behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this sounds highly plausible to me. We know impacts

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<v Speaker 2>happen all the time. Our own moon, formed from a

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<v Speaker 2>Mars sized object hitting Earth. Uranus is tipped completely on

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<v Speaker 2>its side, probably because of a massive impact. Why couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>that be the answer here?

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<v Speaker 3>It comes down to the energy budget. Stripping an entire

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<v Speaker 3>planetary atmosphere, especially one held by the gravity of a

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<v Speaker 3>super Earth, requires a cataclysmic amount of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just a little fender bender.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we aren't talking about a dinosaur killer asteroid. We

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<v Speaker 3>are talking about a direct collision with another planet sized

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<v Speaker 3>object traveling at immense.

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<v Speaker 2>Speed, a planetary demolition derby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and when you run the numerical simulations of that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of collision, you immediately run into major problems. First,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the probability.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too rare.

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<v Speaker 3>A collision that is precise enough to cleanly strip the

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<v Speaker 3>gas away but somehow leave the rocky core completely intact

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<v Speaker 3>in a stable orbit is vanishingly rare. Usually, you shatter

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<v Speaker 3>the planet entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the second problem, where is the debris?

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<v Speaker 3>A collision of that magnitude creates a massive debris disk,

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<v Speaker 3>millions of fragments, dust, shattered crust, and all that dust

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<v Speaker 3>would absorb star light and glow brightly in the infrared spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and we don't see any glowing dust.

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<v Speaker 3>The system is completely clean. Furthermore, the current orbit of

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<v Speaker 3>planet E is relatively circular and stable. A massive atmosphere

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<v Speaker 3>destroying impact usually perturbs the orbit significantly. It makes it

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<v Speaker 3>highly elliptical or wildly inclined compared to the other planets.

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<v Speaker 2>So the forensic evidence just isn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the blood spatter pattern to keep the CSI

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<v Speaker 3>analogy going just didn't match a murder scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so suspect number one, the giant impact, is released

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<v Speaker 2>for lack of evidence. What about suspect number two? Because

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<v Speaker 2>this one honestly seems the most likely to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Migration, ah, planetary migration. This is really the darling of

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<v Speaker 3>modern exoplanet science. We know for a fact that planets move.

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<v Speaker 3>We are fairly certain Jupiter migrated in our own Solar

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<v Speaker 3>system early on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So the theory here simple planet e wasn't born

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<v Speaker 2>in the outer zone. It was born in the inner zone,

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<v Speaker 2>the rock factory, right where it belongs, and then through

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<v Speaker 2>gravitational pinball, it got kicked out the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the drifting rock hypothesis. It formed inside the frost

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<v Speaker 3>line as a normal rocky planet and then migrated outward

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<v Speaker 3>over millions of years. This would explain perfectly why it

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<v Speaker 3>is rocky. It was baked in the oven and then

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<v Speaker 3>simply move to the freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>So why did the team rule this out? It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like the perfect alibi.

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<v Speaker 3>It fails the gravitational fingerprint test. You see, when planets migrate,

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<v Speaker 3>they do not slide silently through the night. They interact

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<v Speaker 3>gravitationally with absolutely everything they pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they are heavy, they drag things around exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They warp space. Specifically, in a compact system like LHS

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen oh three, where you already have three other plants

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<v Speaker 3>tightly packed together, a migration of that magnitude would force

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<v Speaker 3>the planets into what we call mean motion resonances.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's break that down for the listener. What does a

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<v Speaker 2>resonance look like.

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<v Speaker 3>It means their orbital periods would lock into mathematical integer

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<v Speaker 3>ratios for every two times the outer planet orbits the star,

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<v Speaker 3>the inner one orbits exactly three times eat to two

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<v Speaker 3>resonance or a two to one resonance.

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<v Speaker 2>Like gears and a clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like gears, or like pushing a kid on a swing,

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<v Speaker 3>you time the pushes perfectly, so the energy builds up

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<v Speaker 3>in a rhythm. We see this all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>The moons of Jupiter are in resonance. The planets in

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<v Speaker 3>the trappist One system are in a beautiful resonant chain.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the absolute hallmark of migration.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the scar tissue left behind by planets moving through

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<v Speaker 2>the system.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, But when the researchers perform the deep orbital analysis

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<v Speaker 3>on LHS nineteen oh three, they found that the planets

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<v Speaker 3>are not in these resonant chains.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't locked together, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Their orbits are essentially random relative to each other. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no mathematical harmony there.

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<v Speaker 2>So the total lack of resonance essentially proves they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>push each other around.

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<v Speaker 3>It strongly, strongly implies that the current architecture we see

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<v Speaker 3>is the birth architecture. These planets formed roughly exactly where

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<v Speaker 3>they are sitting right now. They didn't shuffle the deck

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<v Speaker 3>later on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is incredibly frustrating. It didn't get hit by anything,

433
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<v Speaker 2>It didn't move from the inner.

434
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<v Speaker 3>Zone, which leaves us with the impossible truth. It formed

435
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<v Speaker 3>in situ, a naked, rocky world formed directly in the

436
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<v Speaker 3>gas zone.

437
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<v Speaker 2>We are right back to the dry sponge in the

438
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<v Speaker 2>swimming pool. How do you possibly explain that without breaking physics?

439
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<v Speaker 3>This brings us to the new theory proposed by the researchers,

440
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<v Speaker 3>and honestly, it is a beautiful piece of lateral thinking.

441
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<v Speaker 3>They realized that for decades we were looking at the

442
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<v Speaker 3>problem spatially. We were obsessed with where the planets.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Were right inner zone versus outer zone.

444
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<v Speaker 3>But to solve this we needed to look at it temporarily.

445
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<v Speaker 2>It's not about space, it's about time.

446
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<v Speaker 3>Correct. The theory is called inside out planet formation or

447
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<v Speaker 3>sequential formation.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, explain the mechanism here. How does adding time to

449
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<v Speaker 2>the equations solve the gas problem?

450
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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have to abandon the core assumption that all

451
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<v Speaker 3>planets in a given system start growing at the exact

452
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<v Speaker 3>same moment. The standard model basically assumes a concurrent formation.

453
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<v Speaker 3>It's a race where the starting gun fires, and every

454
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<v Speaker 3>seed everywhere starts building it once.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Like putting a giant tray of cookies into the oven,

456
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<v Speaker 2>all at the same time. They all bake together, right.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Instead, the inside out model asks us to imagine a

458
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<v Speaker 3>buffet line. The food on this buffet is the gas

459
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<v Speaker 3>and dust at the protoplanetary disc. Okay, I like this,

460
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<v Speaker 3>but this buffet has a very strict time limit. The

461
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<v Speaker 3>kitchen is actively closing.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Because the star is the kitchen manager and it wants

463
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<v Speaker 2>everyone out exactly.

464
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<v Speaker 3>The central star is actively blowing the gas away with

465
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<v Speaker 3>its solar wind and photo evaporation. The disc is slowly

466
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<v Speaker 3>dying from the moment it forms. Now in this sequential model,

467
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<v Speaker 3>the inner planet forms first, it grabs the rock available

468
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<v Speaker 3>in the hot zone right next to the star.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so planet one is done it.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Eight first, Then a bit later the process ripples outward

471
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<v Speaker 3>and triggers the formation of the next zone. The mini

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<v Speaker 3>neptune start forming, and at this point in time, the

473
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<v Speaker 3>buffet is still well stocked. There's plenty of gas swhirling around.

474
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<v Speaker 2>So they grow their solid cores and they successfully turn

475
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<v Speaker 2>on their vas vcuums and suck up that thick hydrogen envelope.

476
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<v Speaker 3>They get their fill completely, they become gas ridge mini Neptunes.

477
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<v Speaker 2>But the clock is still ticking.

478
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<v Speaker 3>The clock is ticking constantly, the disc is dissipating. By

479
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<v Speaker 3>the time the wave of planetary formation finally reaches the

480
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<v Speaker 3>outer edge where a planet E is trying to be borne,

481
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<v Speaker 3>millions of years.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Have passed and the buffet is empty.

483
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<v Speaker 3>The trays are completely stripped clean. The gas is largely gone.

484
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<v Speaker 3>It was either eaten by the mini Neptunes or it

485
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<v Speaker 3>was just blown out into deep space by the star.

486
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<v Speaker 2>So planet E starts to form. It manages to build

487
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<v Speaker 2>a massive rocky core using the solid ice and dust

488
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<v Speaker 2>pebbles that are still drifting around.

489
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<v Speaker 3>It builds a core easily big enough to hold an atmosphere.

490
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<v Speaker 2>But when it flips the switch and turns on its

491
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<v Speaker 2>vacuum cleaner.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Nothing happens. Wow, there's literally no gas left to a crete.

493
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<v Speaker 3>It becomes a failed giant. It is a massive rocky

494
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<v Speaker 3>core that absolutely would have been a Neptune if it

495
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<v Speaker 3>had just shown up to the party a million years earlier.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That is just fascinating. It's a rocky planet, not because

497
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<v Speaker 2>of where it is in the cists, but because of

498
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<v Speaker 2>when it is in.

499
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<v Speaker 3>The timeline exactly. It is essentially a fossil of the

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<v Speaker 3>exact moment the protoplanetary disc died. Its composition perfectly captures

501
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<v Speaker 3>the moment the system ran out of fuel.

502
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<v Speaker 2>This concept of sequential timing really changes how we have

503
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<v Speaker 2>to view the ingredients of a world. It means you

504
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<v Speaker 2>can't just look at an orbit through a telescope and

505
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<v Speaker 2>instantly know what the planet is made of based on

506
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<v Speaker 2>a simple chart.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't. You have to know the history. You have

508
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<v Speaker 3>to know the temporal flow of the system. The researcher

509
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<v Speaker 3>suggests that the final composition of a planet is actually

510
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<v Speaker 3>a record of the local conditions at the exact time

511
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<v Speaker 3>of its final assembly.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Local conditions at the time of final assembly. That honestly

513
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<v Speaker 2>sounds like a manufacturing disclaimer on the back of a TV.

514
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<v Speaker 3>It effectively is. It tells us that planet formation is

515
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<v Speaker 3>a chaotic, highly time dependent process. It is not a

516
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<v Speaker 3>static blueprint printed out at the beginning of time. It

517
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<v Speaker 3>is a movie, and the ending of that movie depends

518
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<v Speaker 3>entirely on how fast the early scenes play out.

519
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<v Speaker 2>So LHS nineteen oh three E is a naked rock

520
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<v Speaker 2>simply because it was late It was the ultimate straggler.

521
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<v Speaker 3>He was the late bloomer in a dying system. It

522
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<v Speaker 3>missed the gas window.

523
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<v Speaker 2>This realization must be sending massive ripples through the astronomical community,

524
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<v Speaker 2>because if this inside out sequential process can happen at

525
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<v Speaker 2>LHS nineteen oh three, surely it is happening elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the big sweeping implication of this paper. We

527
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<v Speaker 3>have to ask ourselves a very uncomfortable question. Is this

528
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<v Speaker 3>system a unicorn, just a bizarre freak occurrence, or is

529
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<v Speaker 3>it actually a very common pattern that we simply haven't

530
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<v Speaker 3>had the technology to see until right now.

531
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<v Speaker 2>I suspect from your tone you lean toward the latter.

532
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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely do. The data point argument is very strong here.

533
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<v Speaker 3>You see, for years our detection methods were inherently biased.

534
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<v Speaker 3>We found hot jupiters because they are huge and the

535
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<v Speaker 3>orbit closely making massive transits in huge gravitational wobbles.

536
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<v Speaker 2>We found what was loud and easy to find exactly.

537
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<v Speaker 3>We built our standard models based on the loudest things

538
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<v Speaker 3>in the sky and our own backyard. Now that we

539
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<v Speaker 3>have ultra precise tools like chiops, and soon we'll have

540
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<v Speaker 3>the Roman Space Telescope, we are finally seeing the subtle

541
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<v Speaker 3>quiet systems.

542
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<v Speaker 2>We are seeing the true diversity of the galaxy.

543
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<v Speaker 3>We are realizing that the Solar System standard might just

544
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<v Speaker 3>be one specific item on a very, very long menu.

545
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<v Speaker 3>You can have systems with hot jupiters, you can have

546
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<v Speaker 3>systems with migrating neptunes crashing through the inner system.

547
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<v Speaker 2>And you can have inside out systems where the outer

548
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<v Speaker 2>worlds are starved rocks.

549
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<v Speaker 3>It's all about timing and local conditions. The galaxy is

550
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<v Speaker 3>far more creative than our old models gave it credit for.

551
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<v Speaker 3>The lead researchers basically echoed this sentiment, pointing out how

552
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<v Speaker 3>remarkable it is to witness a rocky world confidently existing

553
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<v Speaker 3>right where theory says it absolutely shouldn't be.

554
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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me a bit of the Fermi paradox in

555
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<v Speaker 2>a weird way. We keep asking, where is everyone assuming

556
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<v Speaker 2>that life absolutely needs an earth like system with an

557
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<v Speaker 2>Earth like timeline to exist. But if planetary systems are

558
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<v Speaker 2>this wildly diverse, maybe the conditions for life are also

559
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<v Speaker 2>more diverse, or perhaps much rarer than we thought.

560
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<v Speaker 3>It certainly complicates things. If you need a very specific

561
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<v Speaker 3>architecture to protect a habital planet like maybe you need

562
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<v Speaker 3>a Jupiter sitting further out to catch all the incoming

563
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<v Speaker 3>asteroids and shield the inner planets.

564
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<v Speaker 2>Right the Jupiter shield theory, Yes, and.

565
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<v Speaker 3>If that specific architecture is rare, then maybe calm earths

566
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<v Speaker 3>are rare. But on the flip side, maybe rocky worlds

567
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<v Speaker 3>are far more common in the safe, quiet outer zones

568
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<v Speaker 3>than we ever dared to hope.

569
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<v Speaker 2>That's a really hopeful thought. Think about a rocky super

570
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<v Speaker 2>Earth way out in the outer zone. If it had

571
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<v Speaker 2>enough internal heat from radioactive decay or tidal forces, could

572
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<v Speaker 2>it have a subsurface ocean.

573
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<v Speaker 3>It's completely possible. Look at Enceladus and Europa right here

574
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<v Speaker 3>in our own system. They are icy moons with deep,

575
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<v Speaker 3>vast liquid water oceans under the ice. A massive super

576
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<v Speaker 3>Earth in that position could potentially harbor incredibly deep liquid

577
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<v Speaker 3>water protected from the vacuum by a thick crust of ice.

578
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<v Speaker 2>Opens up a totally new class of potential real estate

579
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<v Speaker 2>for astrobiologists to think about.

580
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<v Speaker 3>It really forces us to stop being carbon chauvinists or

581
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I guess, solar system chauvinists about how planets are supposed

582
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<v Speaker 3>to look. We are not the gold standard. We are

583
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 3>just one random outcome of a chaotic, time sensitive process.

584
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>So, looking forward, we have this brilliant new theory of

585
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<v Speaker 2>sequential formation. How do we prove it? What is the

586
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 2>next logical step for this research team to confirm this

587
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't just a lucky guess.

588
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 3>The immediate next step is atmosphere characterization, and the tool

589
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<v Speaker 3>for that is the James Web.

590
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<v Speaker 2>Space Telescope uh JWST. What exactly would web be looking

591
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>for in a system like this. It can't look at

592
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<v Speaker 2>the rock because there's no atmosphere to sniff, correct.

593
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 3>But it can look at the many neptunes in the middle.

594
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<v Speaker 3>If the inside out sequential theory is right, the chemical

595
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 3>abundance ratios in their atmospheres should tell a story. Specifically,

596
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<v Speaker 3>we look at the amount of carbon versus the amount

597
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<v Speaker 3>of oxygen.

598
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<v Speaker 2>Why those two elements.

599
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Because as a protoplanetary disk evaporates over time, the ratio

600
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<v Speaker 3>of gas to solid dust changes. Carbon and oxygen freeze

601
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<v Speaker 3>at different temperatures in different times, so the ratio of

602
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<v Speaker 3>those elements floating in the gas changes as the disc

603
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 3>gets older.

604
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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see, So the chemical signature basically acts like

605
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<v Speaker 2>a timestamp.

606
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the chemistry gets baked into the atmosphere of the

607
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<v Speaker 3>planet when it forms. If web can analyze the light

608
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 3>passing through the air of those two mini Neptunes and

609
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<v Speaker 3>find a specific gradient in those ratios that it implies

610
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<v Speaker 3>they formed at different times.

611
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<v Speaker 2>That would be the smoking gun.

612
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<v Speaker 3>It would be definitive proof for sequential formation. We would

613
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<v Speaker 3>literally be reading the timeline of a dead disc in

614
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<v Speaker 3>the clouds of a living planet.

615
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<v Speaker 2>That is just incredible. We are using telescopes to do

616
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<v Speaker 2>temporal archaeology on a solar system one hundred light years away.

617
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<v Speaker 3>It really is the golden age of exoplanetary science. We

618
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<v Speaker 3>are finally moving from stamp collecting where we just find

619
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<v Speaker 3>planets and put them on a list, to actually understanding

620
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<v Speaker 3>their life stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this analysis has certainly blown my mind today. We

622
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<v Speaker 2>started with such a simple, comforting rule rocks inside.

623
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Gas outside, a very tidy rule, and.

624
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>We ended up with a starved, naked super Earth sitting

625
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<v Speaker 2>out in the freezing dark, telling us a story about

626
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the agonizing death of its birth cloud.

627
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>And reminding us once again that the universe is far

628
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 3>more dynamic and messy than our textbooks would like to admit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest takeaway for me is just the

630
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<v Speaker 2>element of time. We look up at the night sky

631
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and it looks so perfectly still and eternal, But it's

632
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>really all just a freeze frame of a violent, constantly

633
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<v Speaker 2>shifting history.

634
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Chaos in order, just dancing together across millions of years.

635
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<v Speaker 3>That is the true nature of the cosmos.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for breaking all this down. It

637
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>really makes you wonder if our tidy little system is

638
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<v Speaker 2>actually the weird one. What does normal actually look like

639
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>out there, What other bizarre rule breaking architectures are hiding

640
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<v Speaker 2>in the dark, just waiting for a satellite to spot them.

641
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>And importantly, how many anomalies have we simply missed or

642
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<v Speaker 3>ignored in the past because we were only looking for

643
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<v Speaker 3>patterns that matched our own home.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a fascinating thought to end on. Keep looking up,

645
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>keep questioning the rules you think are permanent, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will see you in the next discussion. Goodbye, Sai.
