Speaker 1: I don't even care.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, but whatever to the Hey LuSE iph whatever podcast.
Speaker 2: I hate technology and I'm on a technology podcast. I
Speaker 2: hate Apple or something, and I'm on an Apple podcast
Speaker 2: I hate, which is Google.
Speaker 3: That's a nice right now, Randy, I'm not done talking.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what Mike is alluding to. He's talking
Speaker 1: about that new album drop.
Speaker 4: What up.
Speaker 5: To this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Before we get started, because I will forget. Dalton Scott,
Speaker 5: longtime fan listener of the show, literally said if you
Speaker 5: do CDs, I would buy one from you. And I
Speaker 5: called his bluff and then he called mine and he
Speaker 5: was like one of my first. Mike was my first order.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Mike was my first. Mike was my first.
Speaker 3: I didn't even get prior knowledge of it. I learned
Speaker 3: when everyone else learned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hold it out for the vinyl.
Speaker 5: There's gonna no podcast. Ain't doing that well, Drew. But Dalton,
Speaker 5: thank you very much man. He found me through the podcast.
Speaker 5: He's been around since basically the beginning, so he he
Speaker 5: loves our podcast.
Speaker 1: He loves our energy, which is why I'm so passionate today.
Speaker 5: Because tech is I hate to if it's not obs
Speaker 5: as you guys know, then it's chrome with stream Yard.
Speaker 5: Something's messing me up. But anyway, thank you, Thank you
Speaker 5: Mike and other people as well for the pre.
Speaker 1: Order of your CD. I appreciate you guys. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying not to be angry because it's a day of celebration,
Speaker 1: but man, stream Yard or whatever the heck that just was.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just say this real quick and that I'm
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be quiet for the rest of the episode.
Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, Tim.
Speaker 5: So we moved to Streamyard for efficiency, and then the
Speaker 5: moment I get myself efficient fied, everything just wants to.
Speaker 1: Turn on and find me in the Alps and it's
Speaker 1: just completely ruined my whole experience.
Speaker 4: Very few people got that reference.
Speaker 1: That is a very deep cut, and I'm surprised.
Speaker 5: You're like, hey, wait a minute, but uh, anyway, we're here,
Speaker 5: we're working. So tech is woo and I have a
Speaker 5: new iPhone color, so if I lose connection for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: at least people on.
Speaker 1: YouTube can see I have why is it not doing
Speaker 1: the There we go. He auto focuses on baby Wow.
Speaker 3: Technology actually obliged Randy and what he wanted to do.
Speaker 3: That's even the right word. But what are you holding
Speaker 3: in your hands? Is I have fifteen regular with blue
Speaker 3: case and blue? Was that ultramarine?
Speaker 5: I guess is I was doxed my son's face if
Speaker 5: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: However, now that you haven't act.
Speaker 5: We we Uh coffee Zilla can't be the only one
Speaker 5: having a bad day, so uh ultramarine. I went with
Speaker 5: ultramarine and there we go. And this color has grown
Speaker 5: on me. I liked it from the offset, just like,
Speaker 5: oh it's not for me. But the longer I've had it, now,
Speaker 5: since Saturday or Sunday or whenever I made that I
Speaker 5: posted the video right after I got it, so whenever
Speaker 5: I did that video, this.
Speaker 1: Is grown on me even more.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's thank you, Sony.
Speaker 1: The camera's lying to you.
Speaker 5: Though it's not this blue. It's more periwinkle. There's hues
Speaker 5: of purple. But for what it is, this might be
Speaker 5: my new favorite color of all time. And that's saying
Speaker 5: something coming from the green guy. I don't even want
Speaker 5: a product red anymore. This color is the best color.
Speaker 1: And that's how that's how bad tech is. If we
Speaker 1: got to talk about.
Speaker 2: Color or build material as a headlining feature tonium.
Speaker 1: Oh man, but I love it. It's clean. I missed
Speaker 1: the action button.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I got it back, and camera control button
Speaker 5: still sucks.
Speaker 1: And this has been my iPhone fifteen review. Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming to my ted talk.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be mentioned that both of you
Speaker 4: called it an iPhone fifteen in the last five minutes.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.
Speaker 5: Isn't it an iPhone fifteen pro without promotion?
Speaker 4: Or fifteen?
Speaker 3: Randy upgraded from the same phone that he had.
Speaker 5: Randy is no longer software locked, which is all I
Speaker 5: ever really cared about.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get software locked eventually, that's just I don't
Speaker 3: keep happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it happens again in the for iPhone seventeen.
Speaker 3: I don't, you'll yield.
Speaker 1: I don't What am I going to sell my Apple stock?
Speaker 1: You know? Am I gonna pull a Tesla?
Speaker 4: Yes? You might. Then you can say I paid nothing
Speaker 4: for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 5: Ha uh Yeah, I remember Jay, he said I've never
Speaker 5: clicked on a video with so quickly with a title
Speaker 5: like that. I'm like, I didn't click bait. I just enticed.
Speaker 4: You said nothing.
Speaker 5: I paid nothing, and I still have. I almost said
Speaker 5: what you did, recommended Drew. I almost bought an iPad instead,
Speaker 5: but I came to the realization that if I had
Speaker 5: to choose one device, it has to be the iPhone
Speaker 5: and the iPhone, I mean the iPad M four can.
Speaker 5: I had no intention of buying it this year, on
Speaker 5: buying it next year.
Speaker 1: So I'm still on track.
Speaker 4: But that tastes.
Speaker 5: Uh. I can't tell you the real answer on record,
Speaker 5: like out loud, ask me, ask me once we cut
Speaker 5: I honestly, I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: But what I will say is.
Speaker 3: That secret that you got the blue case.
Speaker 5: I went to the Apple store six different times over
Speaker 5: the last shy of two weeks, and I'm at the
Speaker 5: point I know, and I'm not even being hyperbolic here.
Speaker 5: I know every employee in that store, and the Apple security,
Speaker 5: the two Apple security guards that rotate throughout the day.
Speaker 5: I've met them, I've got chumming with them. It has
Speaker 5: been a rough experience that nothing simple, and then once
Speaker 5: you have to do like online orders and things have
Speaker 5: to process with work order numbers, it just makes it
Speaker 5: that much longer. I have been, like being very literal here,
Speaker 5: I think within those last two weeks I've spent at
Speaker 5: least ten hours in that store.
Speaker 3: It's like or something.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even going to bring it up last week
Speaker 5: when I thought it was done, but then the apple
Speaker 5: had to bite me where it hurts, and uh, that's
Speaker 5: where the story of the case coming. But what I'll
Speaker 5: say out loud is that the case is a good
Speaker 5: complimentary color for this when I want to mix it up,
Speaker 5: and so I got it because it was a bright color.
Speaker 5: It's obnoxious, just like the phone color.
Speaker 4: Is it silicon?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 5: Gentlemen, the iPhone fifteen with the green that I had
Speaker 5: all year was also silicon, no issues, and I had that.
Speaker 1: For a year zero. You guys are just too nick
Speaker 1: and Sweeney with your products.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, you guys are too nick and Sweeney with
Speaker 5: your products.
Speaker 4: I just wish it had a kickstand.
Speaker 1: Oh not all of us could be paid for Drew.
Speaker 4: Just saying it was less money than the silicon case
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 5: Who said I paid any money for it?
Speaker 3: New charge to new charge or.
Speaker 1: Who said I paid anything for it? And I'm not
Speaker 1: even saying that came.
Speaker 5: Out of the gift card funds which I still have
Speaker 5: they gave me. They couldn't just give me one gift
Speaker 5: card without the number. They had to give me like
Speaker 5: five different gift cards for everything I was turning in
Speaker 5: and cashing out. So I just have like a stack
Speaker 5: of gift cards. I'm like, ching, you know that, and
Speaker 5: dumb and dumber?
Speaker 1: Where you go where? He's like, here you go, here,
Speaker 1: you go here.
Speaker 5: He's giving the money away to the people as are
Speaker 5: coming up and he pulls up his Ferrari.
Speaker 1: He's like, what is this?
Speaker 5: These are where's the money? That's as good as money, sir?
Speaker 5: Those are I O U's go ahead, cut them up
Speaker 5: every sense acount of for That's what that felt like.
Speaker 3: You know, it makes things a lot simpler. Randy not
Speaker 3: buying the newest iPhone because you are in fear of
Speaker 3: being software locked out of whatever BS is going on
Speaker 3: in the most recent update.
Speaker 5: Mike, I know you're new to these Apple streets, so
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it very softly to you. This is
Speaker 5: the first time, this is the first time Apple has
Speaker 5: ever been this obnoxious with software locking on a device
Speaker 5: that wasn't even a year old.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you I've never unlike you, nasty Heathen's putting
Speaker 5: your sim cards wherever the sun don't shine. I've never
Speaker 5: left the Apple ecosystem, so I've been around since the
Speaker 5: second iPhone.
Speaker 3: I'm it's very English in which a lot of things
Speaker 3: went well for those of quote unquote peer of blood.
Speaker 1: Oh I get it. You just made an incessionable joke.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. I'm sensing a transition coming in three two, and.
Speaker 4: The iPad Many seven dropped this week. Randy's dying over there. Wow,
Speaker 4: look at that new wallpaper.
Speaker 3: With Apple Intelligence.
Speaker 4: You don't want your iPad many to get software locked,
Speaker 4: are you, Randy?
Speaker 1: I don't more than that. That one's Britney's. I don't
Speaker 1: really care.
Speaker 4: Oh, I see how it is.
Speaker 1: As long as god you just he just pulled.
Speaker 4: He.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of cuts that go deep on today. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that iPad is not mine. I am an iPad less
Speaker 5: owner now, so I don't really care.
Speaker 3: This man went from iPad is the best thing ever.
Speaker 3: I'm going to buy one too. I don't own any iPads.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 5: About, Michael, Michael, Michael, I told everybody, and you included,
Speaker 5: I would play.
Speaker 1: It next year. That was the objective. I still got time.
Speaker 1: Michael insane.
Speaker 3: There's some other things coming out in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: such as iPhone seventeen, another Mac which you'll probably upgrade
Speaker 3: because you don't want to be software locked, another iPad
Speaker 3: that for some reason has an update that makes sense.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Maybe AirPods Max two will finally
Speaker 3: come out, or.
Speaker 5: If somebody wants to sponsoring old Randy Nexus, and I'll
Speaker 5: just shut the up right now and I'll just take
Speaker 5: whatever they give me.
Speaker 1: I'll be quiet. I don't have to drop the money.
Speaker 1: They could just send it to them. I'll be like,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest thing I've ever used. Software locking off.
Speaker 1: I don't even care if the thing is crickety.
Speaker 5: Loud, illuminating light on a nightstand, I'll suck it up.
Speaker 4: Row. Oh you want to trade? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to trade you with.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? It in the office right there?
Speaker 1: This is this is not a charger, This is just
Speaker 1: a dot.
Speaker 3: No, no, my brick. Oh trade his own?
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 3: He already lost it?
Speaker 4: It's gone again, plot twist.
Speaker 3: It was never here, It was always with Randy.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it even smells like Drew's house.
Speaker 5: But not for long. It's been here so long it's
Speaker 5: starting to smell like the basement, which is a very
Speaker 5: nice basement.
Speaker 3: Excuse you, anyways. The color of the basement is also
Speaker 3: a great description of the color of these iPad colors.
Speaker 3: They're very unamusing, uninspired, and disappointing.
Speaker 1: My basement is not disappointing.
Speaker 4: They found another way to name something blue that is
Speaker 4: not blue at all.
Speaker 3: Do you even where are the names of these colors?
Speaker 3: It looks like black, kind.
Speaker 4: Of blue, purple, starlight and space gray. Not blue.
Speaker 3: That's not starlight either, that's like faded yellow.
Speaker 1: Put the camera on me real quick. I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to know what would happen if I plug this in
Speaker 1: and I think.
Speaker 3: Nothing is the same voltage. Wow, Wow, that's a nice
Speaker 3: iPad that Randy has in his head.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was charging it with a double with a double dongle.
Speaker 4: Looking anyway anyways about double dongles sounds explicit.
Speaker 3: This is explicitly annoying to me. I was hoping for
Speaker 3: something a little bit more larger of a step in
Speaker 3: increment for the iPad Mini, and instead this feels more
Speaker 3: like an sure for it as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, I tried to warn everybody best I could,
Speaker 4: but somehow everyone was still disappointed. Like for the record,
Speaker 4: Randy texted me the morning of saying he also was
Speaker 4: disappointed with the iPad many seven. But it's exactly what
Speaker 4: we thought it would be. Is that why everyone's disappointed?
Speaker 4: They want to surprise?
Speaker 3: Yes, I want a little bit more surprise. And which
Speaker 3: getting more storage is nice? Was it two fifty six
Speaker 3: now based storage? Still that's pretty good? Yeah for an iPad,
Speaker 3: Like that's something that I think I have in mind
Speaker 3: because I built it up to at least less somewhat longer,
Speaker 3: and so it now being the standard is great. But
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was hoping for a little bit
Speaker 3: more than just this now can also run Apple Intelligence?
Speaker 4: Like what built from the ground of it?
Speaker 1: When when can it run Apple Intelligence?
Speaker 4: Not to it?
Speaker 3: Ay, now, well you can't buy this now. Well you
Speaker 3: can't have this in your hands right now?
Speaker 1: Oh well that's a Marquez Brownie.
Speaker 4: Unless you're on the nice list. They already have it.
Speaker 4: I'm sure.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he threw up a nice wallpaper to replace
Speaker 5: the old one big asterisk.
Speaker 4: There. Doesn't that work out perfectly? I was like, everyone
Speaker 4: complains about Marquez charging for a wallpaper app. But then
Speaker 4: they also complained that Apple didn't change the wallpaper.
Speaker 6: Then there's no pleasing you like.
Speaker 4: Do you think there would have been a notable uptick
Speaker 4: in sales, not even notable, a small uptick in sales
Speaker 4: if they would have changed the wallpaper on the iPad Mini.
Speaker 5: For the tech community, I would say there would at
Speaker 5: least be five.
Speaker 4: Okay, then Panels was justified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they would. Honestly, that God's on struth.
Speaker 5: I think they would because people but like to look
Speaker 5: like they have the new, which is why I look
Speaker 5: like I have the new.
Speaker 4: It goes without saying you can change the wallpaper on
Speaker 4: an older iPad though, right everybody knows that.
Speaker 5: No, this is actually an iPhone eleven. You know, with
Speaker 5: the camera array, the you wouldn't know. What are you
Speaker 5: the parole police?
Speaker 4: What explain Randy is the joker part of his career?
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Oh man, So the iPad Mini, I mean to be honest,
Speaker 5: iPad Mini.
Speaker 1: Was the best, probably the best product to come around
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, And now it's just shaking?
Speaker 4: Is that the end of the statement?
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry for all Sorry, I don't have to break it down.
Speaker 1: This ain't it, chief. I don't know what I was
Speaker 1: looking for. I wasn't looking for O lead, I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for an M chip. I would have happily taken
Speaker 1: an M chip. But here's what really grinds my gears.
Speaker 5: And A seventeen pro chip is in the iPad Mini,
Speaker 5: last year's pro chip.
Speaker 7: So MHM.
Speaker 1: Still can't do Stage Manager, but totally could my A
Speaker 1: twelve X could.
Speaker 4: No, it's absolutely a decision based on the size, not
Speaker 4: on the chip.
Speaker 5: Then allow extending the display to an external monitor. Don't
Speaker 5: let that just be an M one thing because this
Speaker 5: goes to RAM.
Speaker 1: Is not an issue. They've ucked the RAM they had
Speaker 1: to for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's double the RAM as the A twelve X.
Speaker 1: So there's no there's no issues there.
Speaker 5: There's literally nous as you could, theoretically on Apple's side
Speaker 5: flip a switch and enable external display not mirroring for
Speaker 5: an iPad Mini, and then I mean I would even
Speaker 5: make the same margument to beyond I mean, now we're
Speaker 5: going into deck territory. I'd make the same argument for
Speaker 5: a Pro or a PRO Max.
Speaker 1: Actually it doesn't even.
Speaker 5: Matter for if it's a pro pro Maximore because RAM
Speaker 5: is no longer literally an issue. Eight gigs of RAM
Speaker 5: is this barrier of entry for all this AI stuff,
Speaker 5: and a MacBook Air eight gigs of RAM M one
Speaker 5: from twenty twenty can do all this and then some.
Speaker 5: That's what's frustrating about the iPad Mini right now. If
Speaker 5: we're gonna act like iPad is, even if they don't mean,
Speaker 5: if we're gonna act like iPad is the next best
Speaker 5: operating system that eventually it will replace mac os, then
Speaker 5: stick to your guns, like, don't do this whole fragmentation
Speaker 5: for the sake of software locking or that one is
Speaker 5: software locking as well, and it's just for the sake
Speaker 5: of like well, then I guess I'll just buy an
Speaker 5: iPad Air or an iPad or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay. Anyway, so.
Speaker 5: Right now as we speak, I had I had a
Speaker 5: text message come through on my phone and it did
Speaker 5: the summarizing thing. And I don't know if the summary
Speaker 5: is accurate or not, but somebody was just giving me
Speaker 5: feedback on something and like this was great.
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't know about that, and I'm
Speaker 1: scared to click on.
Speaker 5: It to be like, is that writers like this whole
Speaker 5: thing sucks, Like, oh man, the summarizing feature.
Speaker 1: It ain't good.
Speaker 5: None of the current Beta AI stuff is really that good.
Speaker 1: With the exception of.
Speaker 5: The cleanup in the photos app where you can like
Speaker 5: circle something.
Speaker 1: Deleted or whatever the case is, I would tell you that.
Speaker 5: All this stuff is a load of horse poo poo,
Speaker 5: and Apple should have never ever got on this bandwagon.
Speaker 5: Just keep pushing spatial computing, Just keep doing that lie
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: I am you glad you were upgraded so that you
Speaker 4: could have intelligence features.
Speaker 1: Randy, I you know what's great, Drew, I don't have
Speaker 1: burn in.
Speaker 4: We didn't see the burn in, did we Nope?
Speaker 3: I never saw it once when I.
Speaker 1: Was well, guys, you just got to take my word
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 4: We will the fifteen is gone. But you know what
Speaker 4: disappoints me the most about iPad many seven The pencil. Yes,
Speaker 4: remember the pencil. They said that they had to change
Speaker 4: the coil on the iPad pro with the M four
Speaker 4: chip and the M two iPad air so that they
Speaker 4: could because of the new webcam position in landscape mode.
Speaker 4: They were like, oh, well, the old Apple pencil doesn't
Speaker 4: work anymore because we moved the camera to the long side. Well. Now,
Speaker 4: iPad many as Apple Pencil Pro support, but it does
Speaker 4: not work with the Apple Pencil too, so if Mike
Speaker 4: wanted to upgrade or something, he'd have to buy a
Speaker 4: whole new pencil. He couldn't use his old pencil. And
Speaker 4: guess what, the webcam is in the exact same place
Speaker 4: as the last gen iPad, which further proves once again
Speaker 4: that they redesigned the charge coil for no reason. They
Speaker 4: just changed it so that they could change it so
Speaker 4: that you would have to buy a new pencil, where
Speaker 4: when they totally could have left it the same or
Speaker 4: at least come up with a charging method that supports
Speaker 4: Apple Pencil too and Apple Pencil Pro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bummer, but it's great time for if
Speaker 3: you wanted to get uh an iPad Mini and you
Speaker 3: wanted a pencil, But if you already had either of those,
Speaker 3: this isn't a good situation. So I think that's where
Speaker 3: probably my frustration should be. But it's mainly more on
Speaker 3: in very tiny ramp slash, smallest shallowest step I've seen
Speaker 3: for this product, though I guess maybe the was it
Speaker 3: the the sixth generation versus the fifth might have been
Speaker 3: smaller as well, but yeah, that was a big one. Okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: good to know.
Speaker 4: But the you can The good news is you can
Speaker 4: now buy the iPad Mini six.
Speaker 3: Every single generation has changed pencil. Maybe this is what
Speaker 3: we should highlight. The fifth generation had the first generation pencil,
Speaker 3: the six had the second generation, and the USBC at
Speaker 3: least it can still use USBC Apple pencil. But who
Speaker 3: wants to plug in a pencil to the bottom of
Speaker 3: their device?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the pencil doesn't have as many features as
Speaker 4: the Apple pencil too, So I know there were people
Speaker 4: online saying, Drew, you don't have to buy the pencil pro,
Speaker 4: you could buy the USBC pencil, And I'm like, still,
Speaker 4: you spend one hundred and thirty dollars on a pencil,
Speaker 4: you buy a new iPad, you got to buy a
Speaker 4: whole new pencil, and that eighty dollars pencil has less
Speaker 4: features than the old one you spent one hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty bucks on. So that's dumb. The good news is
Speaker 4: you can buy an iPad Mini six on Amazon renewed
Speaker 4: now for three hundred and thirty bucksh God, I have
Speaker 4: stars I have right here.
Speaker 3: This is this thing is it starting at five hundred,
Speaker 3: six hundred, six five hundred, Hey, I was right, I
Speaker 3: was right. My guess prices before Yeah, okay, yeah, three
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty or three thirty somewhere in the three hundreds.
Speaker 3: That's not bad.
Speaker 4: Especially no, I know that some people were bragging that, well,
Speaker 4: the USB s port is twice as fast now it
Speaker 4: goes up to ten gigabits per second. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the heck are you moving off of that thing?
Speaker 4: It's an iPad mini. Why do you need to move files?
Speaker 4: It's a box from my wallets it is. You're not
Speaker 4: recording log pro res crap on that thing.
Speaker 3: I do put a lot of files inn so I
Speaker 3: do get having a whole bunch of stuff on there,
Speaker 3: but put a bunch of what files, A whole bunch
Speaker 3: of documents things. I put it on their sideway. I
Speaker 3: can carry my documents with me digitally.
Speaker 1: Uh if I need.
Speaker 3: Well, that's not my iPhone. On my iPhone, I'm dedicating
Speaker 3: that mainly to photos, where my iPad mainly has documents.
Speaker 3: If I need specific documents, I don't want to share
Speaker 3: in the cloud or have I want to move the
Speaker 3: documents though air drop So that's that's what I was
Speaker 3: gonna get at. I just didn't get there until you
Speaker 3: interiargate it it at me, but.
Speaker 4: Yes, sorry, no, it's I got excited. Oh look the
Speaker 4: gigabit LTE went down too.
Speaker 3: By one band.
Speaker 4: Used to be thirty two bands, now it's thirty one. Hey,
Speaker 4: you can save money and the identical product. Yeah, no
Speaker 4: more physical sim on iPad many but I don't know
Speaker 4: who was buying cellular iPads. I still don't.
Speaker 3: It also looks like I got the life sucked to
Speaker 3: have it. This purple is equivly less colorful than the
Speaker 3: previous purple and the same.
Speaker 5: Nobody replace the ink roller and the printer for the
Speaker 5: iPads because it's getting very iPhone fifteen in here.
Speaker 4: It looks like the otter Pop.
Speaker 3: They didn't even.
Speaker 4: Nearing the end of the Otter Pop flavor. It's getting
Speaker 4: the more and more stale. That is not blue. I
Speaker 4: don't care what they say. That is not a blue color.
Speaker 4: Look at that. That's teal at.
Speaker 1: Best Mike Show do side by side starlight?
Speaker 3: Starlight is just it's not the same. Uh, let me
Speaker 3: zoom in.
Speaker 4: You look pretty close.
Speaker 3: Another different. You can tell by the bomb left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks less starlight and more less.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's less luminosity to this color.
Speaker 1: Dang, Michael, did you get your degree at.
Speaker 3: I was going to be an astronomer. I did go
Speaker 3: into astronomy when I was in community college, and then decide,
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't really want to try to
Speaker 3: live in Hawaii and try to keep up with the
Speaker 3: financials on that island.
Speaker 1: I don't live in.
Speaker 3: The financials are crazy, man. It doesn't make sense, especially
Speaker 3: on astronomy people here. It's also terrible. At least I
Speaker 3: can move to other places with my degree.
Speaker 4: In Hawaii, you could live in a tent happily.
Speaker 5: Not when it's so in California if you look.
Speaker 4: No, you can't live happily in California at the house.
Speaker 1: No, but you could live happily in California in a tent.
Speaker 3: I don't think those people are happy.
Speaker 4: You would know if you were a resident. You wouldn't
Speaker 4: understand AnyWho. Wow, So do you guys think this means
Speaker 4: there's no event anymore? They're just doing sight refreshes from
Speaker 4: here on out.
Speaker 8: Yes, thanks Russia, look what they.
Speaker 1: Did, Thanks Obama, they got them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd probably agree with that. True but I would
Speaker 3: like to have another event. But seeing as though they
Speaker 3: wanted to show off an iPad and then before that
Speaker 3: quote unquote leak a MacBook and then I guess the
Speaker 3: Macmini is next? Am I forgetting one?
Speaker 4: Well, the I don't know. I guess we don't know
Speaker 4: the layout, the rollout of which products come out next.
Speaker 4: And see, technically the MacBook Pros haven't been announced yet
Speaker 4: even though we all know how they so it could
Speaker 4: go anyway. I think there's a good chance we get
Speaker 4: one refresh next week on Tuesday. That's uh. Some people
Speaker 4: were thinking the iPad eleven was gonna get refreshed, but
Speaker 4: maybe that's even been pushed out. So I will guess
Speaker 4: M four MacBook pros drop next Tuesday. That's my prediction.
Speaker 4: Solid guests, surprising no one.
Speaker 1: I'm going with.
Speaker 5: Wow wow, I'm wow wow. I'm going with an event,
Speaker 5: even if it's like one of those things that like
Speaker 5: what Craig did with the magic keyword for iPads, have
Speaker 5: anything like an online thing.
Speaker 3: Uh, wasn't that last was it last year or was
Speaker 3: it before that? We had the mini video events that
Speaker 3: were like fifteen minutes or whatever.
Speaker 5: Mike that I think we're gonna get something like that,
Speaker 5: definitely for the Mac Mini. Okay, if there's no event otherwise, then.
Speaker 4: Let's walk through how to use the new Mac Mini.
Speaker 4: Then they just use it like a normal computer.
Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna show off the ports they have to show. Hey, look,
Speaker 3: the ports are still here on the back of this thing,
Speaker 3: but we'll reorganized it so that way they all fit aesthetically.
Speaker 4: They'll have a whole event just for the ports.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, in the past they've also used that time for
Speaker 5: events like a thirty minute event to not just update Max,
Speaker 5: but then accessories that compots and stuff like that. All
Speaker 5: that was part of the same event before I can
Speaker 5: see all that happening.
Speaker 1: Ah. I don't know if there's any talks of a
Speaker 1: home pod coming. But oh god, but why why do
Speaker 1: you guys this to me? Like, do you not? I'll
Speaker 1: just shut up to me?
Speaker 4: Will you thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: This episode shows violence.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know why there wouldn't be something to showcase
Speaker 5: a new designed Mac, especially a Macminnie, the most affordable one.
Speaker 1: Use that time to look, are we getting air tags
Speaker 1: updated as well or something? Or is that next year.
Speaker 4: There's nothing to do with their tags, sphere tags.
Speaker 3: I guess they're discs. What's a revolutionary shape.
Speaker 4: Triangle?
Speaker 3: Okay, there we go, we're doing prisms.
Speaker 4: No, they won't do it, they they may. I remind
Speaker 4: you we did not even get a pre recorded no
Speaker 4: announcement event for Airpod's Max, the first one that was
Speaker 4: just a sight refreshed. We just woke up one day
Speaker 4: and it was like, they're five hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 5: Those are more expensive than a Mac Minnie. I see where,
Speaker 5: I see where we're getting at.
Speaker 4: They're pretty close. I don't know if they're Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: up there, but I think Apple's done after the whole
Speaker 4: league thing. I think they're like, nah, let's just drop these.
Speaker 4: We're not that proud of them anyway.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: Well, because the M five Max, yeah, five is supposed
Speaker 5: to be the rumored redesign.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's M five or at some point, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I will admit there was a point today where
Speaker 4: I was editing outside and I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: a brighter MacBook display would be kind of handy.
Speaker 3: How many more knits do you need?
Speaker 4: I think when it's not doing HDR content, it's still
Speaker 4: Max is out at like five hundred, so you need
Speaker 4: like a thousand, then, yeah, I guess that'd be better.
Speaker 4: That's what the iPad got with OLED, right, it's around
Speaker 4: a thousand and knits.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of nits.
Speaker 4: Don't outside that much, but I could barely see it
Speaker 4: at full brightness, fair enough, Maybe.
Speaker 5: That I do.
Speaker 3: The thing is though, Drew, I also like being outside
Speaker 3: of the computer, so I'm totally not shaming you on that.
Speaker 3: It's nice to try. I feel like you're one with
Speaker 3: nature while you're staring into the void of a digital screen.
Speaker 4: But it was in a city, but yeah, still, I
Speaker 4: was sitting outside of Starbucks waiting for someone nature there.
Speaker 3: It wasn't, by decision, the least closest thing to nature,
Speaker 3: being at a Starbucks in the city. But yeah, I think, uh,
Speaker 3: I think we're due for something next week. That's my prediction. Yes,
Speaker 3: I won't whole hardly agree with the the M four,
Speaker 3: MacBook Pro or MacBook whatever, but I think something's coming.
Speaker 3: I've got no connections, but.
Speaker 4: We need those like USBC accessories.
Speaker 3: Sure, it seems like we're not getting spooky season, We're
Speaker 3: getting spooky drops.
Speaker 1: That's what I call Keika's droppings. When I take it
Speaker 1: outside to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Look at these spooky drops. That's what I tell my
Speaker 5: son when we potty train him. Then he comes up
Speaker 5: to me, He's like, Dad, my fart is on the floor,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out how Randy's going to
Speaker 4: verbally gymnastic self into the iPhone seventeen slim next year
Speaker 4: when that comes out.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't pay for it.
Speaker 3: That's the answer, is green. That's how he gymnastics himself
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 4: So what will he trade in? What will he sell?
Speaker 1: I will part ways with.
Speaker 5: My watch.
Speaker 3: It's gonna say his hands, my.
Speaker 1: Watch, this this. I mean, do we really need a
Speaker 1: MacBook these days? Right?
Speaker 4: Am I?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: We do? I do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, right, yeah, yeah no. I I wouldn't sell
Speaker 5: my stock. Well, if I did sell the stock, it's
Speaker 5: because I just roll it over into something else.
Speaker 1: But no, what will Randy do next year?
Speaker 5: Randy?
Speaker 1: Will you know? I just realize something.
Speaker 5: I think I like blue more than I.
Speaker 4: I think they based ultramarine off of the color of
Speaker 4: the light behind me.
Speaker 1: This is one I this case. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: a tailor's a tech blue. I've been in the office.
Speaker 1: I know that this is the paint. I've seen this blue.
Speaker 4: I should probably have that, and I don't. Sadly, I've
Speaker 4: been disappointed with this phone again. Oh, I was filming
Speaker 4: in real nature. I was in a park and there
Speaker 4: was an altercation. There were people fighting, and.
Speaker 3: I was like, world stars, why doesn't this work?
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna film this because the fists
Speaker 4: are being thrown, so I need to make sure that
Speaker 4: if something goes down, the police have video evidence in
Speaker 4: four K at sixty frames a second.
Speaker 1: So I testify a trial.
Speaker 4: My brand new top of the line sixteen pro macs,
Speaker 4: and within nine seconds the recording FROs.
Speaker 1: You're not even on a beta?
Speaker 4: Are you no beta?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 4: What the sigma.
Speaker 5: Yo?
Speaker 4: I was like, well, i don't know how to get
Speaker 4: any better than this. I'm on the public release on
Speaker 4: the newest iPhone, and yet I'm still having bugs. And
Speaker 4: this was one of those moments where you really didn't
Speaker 4: want the camera to freeze. It literally could have meant
Speaker 4: prison sentence depending on what happened.
Speaker 5: His phone is from a sixteen pro Matt. We can't
Speaker 5: omit this in Discovery.
Speaker 4: He's right, the killer powered phone.
Speaker 5: Every issue I ever had with this series came from
Speaker 5: a pro and I've had nothing but a glorious, beautiful
Speaker 5: time on a base model. Tempers expectations when Drew said about.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, I haven't got it yet, so well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. See it's happening. I'm calling it. Drew's
Speaker 3: going to continue having heat issues and you're gonna get burning,
Speaker 3: and we're just gonna rinse and repeat every single year.
Speaker 5: Well, the difference is both Drew and I didn't pay
Speaker 5: for these phones. Just one of us has more, one
Speaker 5: of us has more morals than the other.
Speaker 4: We both paid, we just didn't use money.
Speaker 3: Were trying to hold it against me that I paid
Speaker 3: for my phone and that that was bad.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just like to I like to throw a
Speaker 1: shot at Drew. But I would sell out even harder.
Speaker 4: I paid with my integrity and Randy paid with his
Speaker 4: older Apple tech.
Speaker 2: I paid, and my time ten hours not worth it,
Speaker 2: not worth it.
Speaker 1: I would have seld out harder than what you did.
Speaker 5: Or I would have like, I'll pick your case and
Speaker 5: you give me a thousand so I can go buy
Speaker 5: another phone.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll do well.
Speaker 4: I've sure learned by lesson because all the comments on
Speaker 4: my last video were complaining that it wasn't sponsored. I'm
Speaker 4: doing this wrong. Everyone's like, dear God, just sponsor the
Speaker 4: content already. They were all complaining, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: this isn't doing me any favors.
Speaker 9: So shoot, I I don't know what it will take
Speaker 9: to get me to upgrade, but not much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently, So that's my guess.
Speaker 4: That's what I've learned. You don't like Apple Intelligence and
Speaker 4: you use that as the biggest.
Speaker 1: No, Siri is my biggest. That's all I wanted.
Speaker 4: I know. If that's all it takes, then I'm telling
Speaker 4: you that they'll think of something in a year that
Speaker 4: you'll be like, oh, yep, I need that definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I software looked. I don't.
Speaker 4: Ye know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you guys have such miserable lives that
Speaker 1: you choose to take.
Speaker 3: I'm having a great life right now. I haven't had
Speaker 3: any issues with my fourteen pro.
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth.
Speaker 5: My brother has the exact same phone as Mike, and
Speaker 5: him and I were comparing phones because technically I made
Speaker 5: I proclaimed that an iPhone a base iPhone sixteen is
Speaker 5: better in every way, shape or form, minus promotion and
Speaker 5: always on display than an iPhone fourteen Pro. And it's
Speaker 5: still more expensive to get a certified refurbished fourteen Pro.
Speaker 5: And my brother we did a little side by side
Speaker 5: besides the fact that that phone is like the heaviest
Speaker 5: phone that Apple ever like put out there, like flawless.
Speaker 5: I'm like the fourteen Pro the one phone I was
Speaker 5: willing to skip.
Speaker 1: I'd even touch the fourteens. And he's just like, ah,
Speaker 1: I know this is a good I'm having.
Speaker 5: He has the purple he calls it Thanos purple, you know,
Speaker 5: and he's like everything is fine, it's great, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Everyone long term effects.
Speaker 5: I have another uh friend hurt my brother and you, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 5: I'm about to give you another time code for you
Speaker 5: to censor.
Speaker 1: The three people who I know who I talked.
Speaker 5: To frequently unfortunately, uh all, I have fourteen pros, all
Speaker 5: of them, and like they're aging really well, and they
Speaker 5: don't care about the AI, they don't care about any
Speaker 5: of that other stuff.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, it's a great film and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking like battery.
Speaker 4: Action.
Speaker 5: But they're like a right, they don't care about that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: battery is fine, Everything about it is fine. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I won't take much for me to upgrade. But the
Speaker 5: one year I skipped an upgrade is the year that
Speaker 5: everyone's having the time of their lives.
Speaker 3: On at fourteen. But the fourteen has been nothing but decent.
Speaker 1: Base fourteen. The base fourteen.
Speaker 3: Was he brings over his soda or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: This looks like soda, do you well? It looked like
Speaker 3: it looked like mountain dew or lighting light.
Speaker 4: Weird. It was all green.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised it's not Pepsi cola.
Speaker 1: Oh the green is because it's it's my Sonoma wall paper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Sonoma. No, this is creamy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna commit to how long
Speaker 4: I'll hold this phone at all. I don't.
Speaker 3: I understand you, But Randy, I feel I could have
Speaker 3: held a tad bit of restraint at least.
Speaker 5: Why now now I'm sitting on some cash that I
Speaker 5: can allocate towards an iPad.
Speaker 3: After you sold all these products that you didn't technically
Speaker 3: have to sell.
Speaker 5: But then, also on that same notion, why was I
Speaker 5: holding onto them for so long?
Speaker 3: Nostalgia?
Speaker 1: Okay? And I got photos to go back to look
Speaker 1: at that stuff.
Speaker 3: At least I can touch mine.
Speaker 5: I The only nostalge I care about is the five
Speaker 5: s which I have framed.
Speaker 1: That's the only one that was ever like the biggest
Speaker 1: deal with it with mine. Yes, I got, I got it.
Speaker 5: I got Yes, Mike, I got two iPhone five as
Speaker 5: one was my actual personal And that's gross.
Speaker 1: You feel good about yourself, Drew good, You feel good?
Speaker 4: Is that good?
Speaker 1: You feel good about that.
Speaker 4: I pressed the wrong button?
Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to commit to
Speaker 5: how long I hold onto a phone, but I feel
Speaker 5: pretty confident that I am.
Speaker 1: I'm so disinterested in pro phones as as a whole.
Speaker 5: I'm genuinely desensitized to it now. So that's about as
Speaker 5: close as a normal user, not a tech enthusiast, I
Speaker 5: think I could get.
Speaker 1: And I knew I was like on the right track
Speaker 1: when my.
Speaker 5: Wife kind of supported the idea of after I showed
Speaker 5: her like, hey, with training this in this is what
Speaker 5: the money we're going to get back, and how much.
Speaker 4: Is left on the cards, the gift cards.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Definitely what I know, definitively. I
Speaker 1: never even touched one of them, and I think that
Speaker 1: one gave me like two hundred.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say at least two sets of air
Speaker 3: tags I got.
Speaker 1: I got. I got at least two hundred for sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but that'll put a nice dent
Speaker 4: in the iPad Pro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in the Macmini.
Speaker 5: No, there's nothing wrong with the MacBook Pro. I would
Speaker 5: like to have a sace.
Speaker 3: Right, there's nothing wrong, but that doesn't mean that there's
Speaker 3: everything right with it. Meaning what STI get something that's
Speaker 3: new in boxing?
Speaker 5: No, I use the Mac for abuse like this and
Speaker 5: for logic and Final Cut. So as long as I
Speaker 5: can have my weekly abusing.
Speaker 3: And also run logic and Final Cut, I'm Brandy's a
Speaker 3: masochist apparently.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: You kind of have to do.
Speaker 3: Which I guess everyone knew this because they saw him
Speaker 3: go through this very wonderful situation with iPads and iPhones.
Speaker 3: Your track record is showing that the Mac is next
Speaker 3: for this masochistic beating of yourself.
Speaker 5: Well, I will say this, it feels nice when I
Speaker 5: open like my iCloud account, my Apple count and I
Speaker 5: just see like all these few devices now and having
Speaker 5: having just doing the dru approach of just a Mac
Speaker 5: os and an iOS device, and in symmetry, I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is this is clean.
Speaker 1: I've never proclaimed to be a digital minimalist, but.
Speaker 5: This feels pretty freaking clean.
Speaker 1: Less things I gotta stress worry about.
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't have an additional frame to like if
Speaker 5: I wanted to film on iPhone, but like, I use
Speaker 5: my my mirrorless camera as my primary and this can
Speaker 5: be the secondary, and I'm okay with that. So for
Speaker 5: what I for my setup, I'm I've been content the iPad,
Speaker 5: like I want to have it, but that's a want.
Speaker 5: You kind of need to have a Mac to do
Speaker 5: all this stuff, and you need to have a smartphone.
Speaker 1: And I choose to stay in the ecosystem, So it's
Speaker 1: iPhone for me.
Speaker 5: Everything else from Vision Pro, which I would have loved
Speaker 5: to cap, but it's like that's too expensive, Vision Pro,
Speaker 5: new AirPods. Whenever, whenever these guys go out all those
Speaker 5: things iPad, all those things of wants, uh, they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't pull me to like you want you're going
Speaker 5: to go buy this the same way like evidently an
Speaker 5: iPhone sixteen.
Speaker 1: Can I look at that day? I'm like.
Speaker 4: A phone, am back? These are three separate products. You
Speaker 4: get it? Oh, are you good?
Speaker 5: I get my lesson from this whole sixteen tobaccle was.
Speaker 1: Stick with the tech that has its.
Speaker 5: Purpose, like this mic or that camera or this monitor
Speaker 5: or this computer that runs my favorite OS. Just stop
Speaker 5: trying to minimize things. It's causing more friction than than
Speaker 5: just using the products for their intended purposes.
Speaker 1: And if that means you have a few more products,
Speaker 1: then that's that's okay with me. That's fine. At least
Speaker 1: I trust it.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 5: The only thing I got to complain about his stream
Speaker 5: yard or chrome. I haven't figured that one out yet.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm content with a base boring iPhone
Speaker 5: because the cameras have been good, the OS has been good,
Speaker 5: and everything that you need your phone to do for
Speaker 5: social media, banking, communication, like all that stuff been good.
Speaker 4: So like.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine. I just don't like and it's a
Speaker 1: bit petty. I don't like being software locks freaking sume me.
Speaker 1: At least I'm honest about it. But I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: So here we are. I was curious, so I looked
Speaker 3: up on Apple's website what things are listed there? And
Speaker 3: I guess what's not shown is the watch. But I've
Speaker 3: got the Watch, the TV, the updated Air, I guess,
Speaker 3: the Aird air Pod, HomePod MANI, the two home pods
Speaker 3: I bought from Drew, the phone, the MacBook Air, the
Speaker 3: iPad Mini in the studio geez. It is a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff, but it does serve a purpose, and there's
Speaker 3: also redundancy and also storage that I can exploit out
Speaker 3: of having two macs.
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Gunda, Hedgyconi, pick two or three?
Speaker 3: What are you going with two of these devices?
Speaker 1: Two or two or three? I don't really care.
Speaker 5: But it's like, if you were forced to downsize right now,
Speaker 5: like which, oh, which mac os are you keeping?
Speaker 3: I'd probably go with the studio May and the Yeah,
Speaker 3: the iPhone honorable mention.
Speaker 1: What would be the third device? Honorable mention?
Speaker 3: iPad? Okay, I mean, the MacBook is great, it's not necessary,
Speaker 3: it's great, but the iPhone and the iPad could probably
Speaker 3: do what the MacBook Air does for me.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Otherwise, yeah, the home pods I don't necessarily need. The
Speaker 3: TV has been a little bit silly these days. And
Speaker 3: I don't even use the watch that's hiding over here.
Speaker 1: Which which series watch do you have?
Speaker 3: It's the five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, aluminum or stainless steel.
Speaker 3: Aluminum, Okay, trying to look at anything else. It's I
Speaker 3: should probably get rid of it because I just don't
Speaker 3: use it.
Speaker 1: Take the forty bucks or whatever they give.
Speaker 8: You for it, and just I can buy myself some
Speaker 8: are tags there you go, just cash it in, even
Speaker 8: though I know I kind of got jipped with trading
Speaker 8: in with Apple instead of Sun and Swapa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's not I don't like the whole
Speaker 5: going to the post office and the products send it
Speaker 5: out like I.
Speaker 4: Was doing a take less than ten hours.
Speaker 1: Notice I didn't talk about time because I regret that.
Speaker 1: I do regret that, Drew you got me there.
Speaker 5: But I just the idea that like when you when
Speaker 5: you had to buy the materials, buying turns for shipping
Speaker 5: and all, like, you're not really making that much more
Speaker 5: and so on paper, theoretically, just save yourself some time,
Speaker 5: and you know, what's anywhere between ten and thirty bucks
Speaker 5: of a difference with Apple if they're willing to give
Speaker 5: you the actual price for it, assuming the devices are
Speaker 5: still good because they run these diagnostics.
Speaker 1: That they don't like. It's all automated. They scan a
Speaker 1: QR code and then it just starts. My screen starts
Speaker 1: doing weird stuff to verify it. It's an original screen.
Speaker 1: And the guy goes, actually, you got some burning and
Speaker 1: I'm like I okay.
Speaker 5: He's like, we're still gonna give you the full I
Speaker 5: think the iPhone fifteen gave me four to ten.
Speaker 1: I think that was what the max was.
Speaker 3: They gave me the phones off.
Speaker 1: They gave me the maxim out for it.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, I think I could have
Speaker 5: gotten maybe at least five hundred, but shipping and taxes,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, correct, Just I
Speaker 5: accepted the four ten, So they give you a definitive
Speaker 5: offer there afterwards you just accept it to give you
Speaker 5: a gift card and then that's it.
Speaker 1: So that part was quick. It was everything else that
Speaker 1: said freaking forever added up to these hours. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know true.
Speaker 3: Are you ever going to to watch it again?
Speaker 4: They'd have to really up the battery life I think
Speaker 4: for me to consider it again. Also, not the Ultras
Speaker 4: too small a battery.
Speaker 3: It needs to be at least a month, and.
Speaker 4: I don't like the design of the Ultra. It's too big,
Speaker 4: it's too chunk. I wore it for a while. If
Speaker 4: you remember, way back when when it came out, I
Speaker 4: did review it and I was getting caught on everything.
Speaker 4: It was so sharp, it was too bulky, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I just don't want something else to charge.
Speaker 4: So if it could last for a really long time,
Speaker 4: then I wouldn't have to pack around chargers for it.
Speaker 4: That would make it more digestible. But I similar to you.
Speaker 4: I like this feeling of just being light. It's just
Speaker 4: like phone, laptop done. That's it type. It's simple. And
Speaker 4: it's weird because a few years ago Drew would have
Speaker 4: told you he never leaves the house without the Apple
Speaker 4: Watch it. I feel weird when I don't have it,
Speaker 4: But somehow I'm getting by with I guess I've changed.
Speaker 4: I guess my tastes of change, or my desires have changed,
Speaker 4: or as I've gotten older, I've appreciated traveling lighter more
Speaker 4: and more, being a smaller footprint. And it's just too
Speaker 4: many times where I've needed like, oh, let me get
Speaker 4: the charger for that, let me get this charger, and
Speaker 4: I'm like yeah, and then the watch bands changing and oh,
Speaker 4: these watch bands don't fit anymore, and these ones you
Speaker 4: gotta buy. It's like, I don't I don't like that
Speaker 4: stuff hanging over me. But maybe they'll get me with
Speaker 4: the glasses, because I do need glasses. My visions suck.
Speaker 1: If my prescription was helping you, then I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: you need to go get some glasses.
Speaker 4: I should have gone a while ago.
Speaker 1: I should be wearing them like at this point all
Speaker 1: the time. I just I'm petty. There you go. Oh
Speaker 1: my godness, what you guys look like?
Speaker 3: You do you too, Peter Parker?
Speaker 4: I have no clue what you two look like.
Speaker 1: We're just blobs. Why are we doing? Guys, stop annoying me.
Speaker 4: Amy of the of the rumored Apple Vision products that
Speaker 4: Mark German dove into, he said, next year we get
Speaker 4: an Apple Vision Air, and then in twenty twenty six
Speaker 4: we get a second generation Apple Vision Pro, and then
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven we get Apple's version of ray band
Speaker 4: meta camera glasses. Of those three, which one are you,
Speaker 4: guys the most interested in?
Speaker 1: Apple Vision Air, second Gen Pro? And then glasses?
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Mike, Probably the Vision Air?
Speaker 4: Really? Yeah? The glasses.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you like I don't need to carry glasses
Speaker 3: with me everywhere, But.
Speaker 4: The goggles are okay? Or would you just leave them
Speaker 4: at home?
Speaker 3: I just leave them at home typically, or take them
Speaker 3: with me on a flight or something else. But glasses
Speaker 3: are cool, They're very strong. Second, and probably if you
Speaker 3: caught me yesterday, the day before, or maybe a month
Speaker 3: before or even two weeks ago when we were talking
Speaker 3: with Nick, I would say glasses. But after that podcast,
Speaker 3: I thought, does it make sense to carry around glasses
Speaker 3: with me that I have to charge? And I have
Speaker 3: to be wary or not wary, but cognizant of the
Speaker 3: fact that the information is going through a company who
Speaker 3: doesn't have I mean, privacies not really a thing anymore.
Speaker 3: But even still, do I want to entertain having these
Speaker 3: things sit around my house and or out in public
Speaker 3: or in places that I just don't want other people
Speaker 3: to see. No, and so having goggles that can easily
Speaker 3: put it well, I guess the glasses could be put
Speaker 3: away in a case, but having the goggles at least
Speaker 3: have some way of turning on and off, or the glasses,
Speaker 3: I guess, okay, I keep on talking to myself in circles.
Speaker 3: But I think I feel a lot more comfortable with
Speaker 3: the vision Air just for I don't know, just a
Speaker 3: feeling like I think that's justifiable. I don't think there
Speaker 3: has to be a too logical reason. Besides, I don't
Speaker 3: want to have to think about having bringing glasses with
Speaker 3: me even though I don't really need them yet, and
Speaker 3: having a little bit of that pressure of oh, this
Speaker 3: would be a good idea to capture this right now,
Speaker 3: I should probably turn these on, Oh is it booted up?
Speaker 3: And all that, rather than the Visionaire where there's a
Speaker 3: purpose to it of I'm sitting down to use these
Speaker 3: things for I don't know, extended displays or Apple Arcade
Speaker 3: or whatever else. I guess visualizing cads would be great
Speaker 3: as well compure aid drugs, So that's probably what I
Speaker 3: would be a little bit more interested in, something a
Speaker 3: little bit more heavy duty than glasses. But I do
Speaker 3: like the idea that there is the possibility that Apple
Speaker 3: can make glasses that are very light and optimized and
Speaker 3: just a nice finished feel to them, unlike what I
Speaker 3: guess iPhone sixteen has felt like that's fair, it's theoretical.
Speaker 7: What about you, Randy, I do need glasses, you know,
Speaker 7: like my vision is bad, So I feel from a
Speaker 7: utility purpose, I would have them anyway on me.
Speaker 5: But I guess it really comes down to the use
Speaker 5: case of how those glasses would be marketed. So meta
Speaker 5: does it in a sense of like, ooh, capture these
Speaker 5: moments and then automatically upload it to your story and
Speaker 5: then that's that. I'm not necessarily interested in documenting like
Speaker 5: that in the moment just so it can go to
Speaker 5: my Instagram story.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of having.
Speaker 5: Cameras that are at eye level, the same way you
Speaker 5: could like your eyes are the viewfinders, so you don't
Speaker 5: you can already see what's happening just from the sake
Speaker 5: of what's being.
Speaker 1: Recorded, like what happened on Apple Vision Pro. I like
Speaker 1: the the UI of how all that went out.
Speaker 5: But spatial computing, I'm like, because knowing Apple, what will
Speaker 5: do with the glasses. They'll probably try to put spatial
Speaker 5: video and photos, and so you might have something on
Speaker 5: both sides, if not bare minimum like light ar coming
Speaker 5: out from one camera on the other, and they will
Speaker 5: be expensive and they'll be really cool, very technologically advanced,
Speaker 5: the way Vision bro was.
Speaker 1: But if it's more passive. You don't have to walk
Speaker 1: around charging it all the time, but you have the
Speaker 1: convenience of Siri talking to you.
Speaker 5: Like the outer oh, I just did it right now,
Speaker 5: Like the outer ring just kind of lights up, And
Speaker 5: that's what happens with your peripherals on the camera. They
Speaker 5: light up as you're talking and it tells you the
Speaker 5: notification kind.
Speaker 1: Of like car play. Wow.
Speaker 5: So if you get like the car play functionalities on glasses,
Speaker 5: that's kind of sick.
Speaker 1: I'd be about that. But it really depends on what what.
Speaker 6: The the the use case would dictate what was what
Speaker 6: is the primary focus of the glass, because with the
Speaker 6: vision pro it's visional ass it's special computing.
Speaker 5: So really it's just a bunch of words don't really
Speaker 5: mean much. But if they're trying to compete with those
Speaker 5: glasses that Meta did with uh not the ray band
Speaker 5: was one, but the other.
Speaker 1: Other one, then the geminis, I think, yeah, the Geminis.
Speaker 1: If they're tryings like.
Speaker 4: That, forget Orion, You're right, it is.
Speaker 1: It's one of the oo oreo. That's I like the
Speaker 1: idea of that.
Speaker 5: And so what sells me on this is when Nick
Speaker 5: was visiting me a couple of weeks ago, he Ryan Orian.
Speaker 5: He took a video passively of I was we were out.
Speaker 1: I think we were like at Garden the Gods or something.
Speaker 5: I don't remember, but he took a video of me
Speaker 5: chasing my son like we were playing and he's running around.
Speaker 1: He's happy.
Speaker 5: He's like yea, no, no da, and I was just like,
Speaker 5: come here, dada, and he documented it and I didn't
Speaker 5: know he did that. And later that night he was
Speaker 5: offloading from the app to his camera roll and he's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna air drop you this or whatever, and he
Speaker 5: shows me and I'm like whoa.
Speaker 1: And it was so cool to see.
Speaker 5: Some towering dude giving me a helicopter drone footage of
Speaker 5: me playing with my kid. And the mics are spatial
Speaker 5: or or they're yeah, there's they're they're stereo.
Speaker 1: They moved because I listened to it with headphones. I
Speaker 1: put my AirPods in and as I was talking and
Speaker 1: he was turning his head.
Speaker 5: I felt more immersed in that moment than I would have,
Speaker 5: like just recording on on my phone.
Speaker 1: And the thing about the phone, the thing that I
Speaker 1: give Nick about where I'm like.
Speaker 5: Okay, I can see a case for that is you
Speaker 5: have to be actively like doing this, and you have
Speaker 5: to be ready, and you're and.
Speaker 1: You're looking at this, and you're not looking at the
Speaker 1: at the moment.
Speaker 5: And what I love about vision Pro and what I
Speaker 5: was finding myself enjoying about what Nick would show me
Speaker 5: with the metaglasses is their passive experiences about documenting the memories.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I understand this emotional pool it's doing now,
Speaker 5: and I like that.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I ever really enjoyed about vision Pro.
Speaker 5: So, however, Apple does that and I don't have to
Speaker 5: just like walk around with a brick on my face.
Speaker 1: Consider me game? What about you, Drew.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, I'm pretty torn. You both made good examples.
Speaker 4: I'm tempted to say glasses just because I know I'm
Speaker 4: gonna need those anyway. With like the Apple Watch, I
Speaker 4: can say I don't wear a watch, I don't need
Speaker 4: a watch, so I could just get by with that one.
Speaker 4: With glasses, it's like I should have got one a
Speaker 4: while ago, and I'll probably at some point in my
Speaker 4: life end up carrying a pair of glasses around with
Speaker 4: me everywhere. But actually, I think what it'll depend more
Speaker 4: on than how good the cameras are, because I don't
Speaker 4: really see myself taking a bunch of pictures and videos
Speaker 4: with glasses. Maybe I will, but I'm pretty light on
Speaker 4: the photography video stuff as is. Maybe that would change
Speaker 4: with glasses, But I'm more interested in the audio stuff,
Speaker 4: like the idea of just passively having those little ear
Speaker 4: oriented little speakers on the stems of the glasses and
Speaker 4: maybe those giving directions or those announcing messages and that
Speaker 4: kind of bypassing the whole you don't have to check
Speaker 4: your wrist to just as you know new text from
Speaker 4: so and so. But I don't know, I've not experimented
Speaker 4: with that kind of ye before because usually I only
Speaker 4: wear AirPods when I'm listening to music. I'm not like
Speaker 4: my aunt. My aunt is a good example of someone
Speaker 4: who will just like wear the air pods all day
Speaker 4: throughout the day, even if she's not listening to things,
Speaker 4: just so the messages can be announced with her. But
Speaker 4: I can't find a good pair of headphones that actually
Speaker 4: just stay in my ear period, So that would be
Speaker 4: an interesting use that I haven't explored. It's just like, uh,
Speaker 4: maybe I'd be more interested in trying Apple intelligence features.
Speaker 4: If I could interact with it through the glasses through audio,
Speaker 4: not so much visual, but just telling me like what
Speaker 4: am I looking at here? Or give me directions to this.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's something they could do legally because there's no
Speaker 4: visual covering up your eyes, so even when you're driving,
Speaker 4: because we all know the Tesla nave sucks. So if
Speaker 4: they could just tell me when to turn from here
Speaker 4: that way, it's not interrupting the music in the car.
Speaker 4: It's only the driver that gets notified that your turn
Speaker 4: is coming up. There's some use cases there that I'm
Speaker 4: curious about because I'm like, glasses are inevitable for me,
Speaker 4: Like that's gotta happen, so I got to carry those around.
Speaker 4: I'm not too worried about privacy because I don't believe
Speaker 4: in it, and I think everyone can see everything about
Speaker 4: you everything, So I'm not too worried, but I'm very curious.
Speaker 4: I think it's a very close call between that and
Speaker 4: Apple Vision Air, just because if they could basically, man,
Speaker 4: I realized now everything I'm wanting Apple to do is
Speaker 4: something Meta's already done. I'm just like Apple's version of
Speaker 4: the quest Yeah, like the battery is integrated, it would
Speaker 4: actually be pretty cool. If what I think is inevitable,
Speaker 4: or the next step is our iPhones are gonna get
Speaker 4: so big. They're already big, They're gonna get big, stay big,
Speaker 4: and the batteries will be huge, and the chips in
Speaker 4: them will be so fast. We're gonna be like, why
Speaker 4: do we need these chips on our phones to be
Speaker 4: so fast? All we do is scroll TikTok all day?
Speaker 4: What's the point? Well turns out with that high speed
Speaker 4: USBC port, maybe in future generations it will have higher
Speaker 4: output power as well, and the phone becomes that brick
Speaker 4: that's currently just a basic aluminum brick and Apple Vision
Speaker 4: Pro and if they could scale down, tone it down
Speaker 4: a little bit, maybe just to glasses so that it
Speaker 4: doesn't have to stitch together all of reality with ninety
Speaker 4: cameras in light ar, whatever it takes on Apple Vision Pro.
Speaker 4: If it was just running the two displays over the glasses,
Speaker 4: I think the phone could probably do the heavy lifting,
Speaker 4: and the phone could be the battery, or at least
Speaker 4: most of the battery. Like the glasses have a tiny
Speaker 4: little battery that lasts a little while, but if you
Speaker 4: want to use the visual stuff, you have to plug
Speaker 4: your phone in and then the phone is doing all
Speaker 4: the processing and the A twenty pro chip or whatever.
Speaker 4: See we found something.
Speaker 1: I like this photo that people watching on YouTube.
Speaker 5: It's it's all the it's all the clean elements that
Speaker 5: you would get from from from vision os.
Speaker 1: But clearly it's a meta product.
Speaker 4: I think the big difference is that meta which I
Speaker 4: think is wrong about this despite having very impressive hardware.
Speaker 4: But Zuckerberg says he's convinced these glasses and goggles and
Speaker 4: crap will all replace the smartphone within a decade or two.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that will happen. But also I
Speaker 4: don't think Apple would say that even if it were true.
Speaker 4: That's their bread and butter. You know, Apple's not going
Speaker 4: to be the company that, Wow, that's hilarious. Apple's not
Speaker 4: going to be the company that's like, yeah, these glasses
Speaker 4: are going to kill off our best selling product that
Speaker 4: our shareholders have come to know and love so much. Yeah. No,
Speaker 4: I think Apple will find a way to come up
Speaker 4: with these glasses that can project on top of you,
Speaker 4: and they'll run VISIONOS and it'll do visual intelligence and
Speaker 4: all that jazz, but it will be very iPhone dependent,
Speaker 4: so that Apple can still say, yeah, these are all
Speaker 4: great features and great opportunities of spatial computing, but in
Speaker 4: order to access them, you need the iPhone nineteen promax.
Speaker 1: Am I getting software locked again?
Speaker 4: Yes? Your ihere going to keep.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: So I do agree with Zuck, just not in the
Speaker 5: way that he thinks the phone will become obsolete.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what you're saying, Drew.
Speaker 5: I think the phone will become more of a passive
Speaker 5: device and be the the phone will be to the
Speaker 5: Max studio or Mac Minnie what the glasses will are
Speaker 5: to a display, So they have to coexist with one another.
Speaker 5: But you can use a phone just by phone's sake.
Speaker 5: But I do think that a more passive, wearable experience
Speaker 5: is inevitably going.
Speaker 1: To replace a phone. I just don't think the phone
Speaker 1: when I say replaced it.
Speaker 5: It becomes such an integrated part of it.
Speaker 1: It's like the camera system.
Speaker 5: Now the glass will be so emphasized for the phone
Speaker 5: that they you can't look at one without thinking of
Speaker 5: the other. When we talk about iPhones, we think about
Speaker 5: the camera. When we talk about you know, uh, machine
Speaker 5: learning and post processing with photography and stuff like that
Speaker 5: from Ioas you think about an iPhone. You don't think
Speaker 5: about an iPad's camera or anything else. You think about
Speaker 5: the iPhone. They're synonymous with one another. And I think
Speaker 5: I can see a future where glasses will do that.
Speaker 5: It will be as synonymous with the iPhone, the same
Speaker 5: way you are with an Apple Watch. Still, can you
Speaker 5: have a standalone Apple Watch with Cellier? Sure, ain't nobody
Speaker 5: doing it, but you can. You know, Nick is a
Speaker 5: special kind of person, I say, But right though, Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 5: so that's my thought.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 5: I agree with Zuck, but not the way that Zuck
Speaker 5: wants it to go. Apple will still sit on top
Speaker 5: and they will live in harmony, side by side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my abhorrence to it, or at least
Speaker 3: why I am not too keen on integrating the end
Speaker 3: of my life is I kind of want to just
Speaker 3: distance myself from technology a little bit more. I bar
Speaker 3: least experience life more like life and not keep on
Speaker 3: staring at screens, especially since my job is staring at
Speaker 3: screens all day, and then when I get home, I'm
Speaker 3: exhausted from staring at screens. So I stare at a
Speaker 3: screen to just enjoy media and all that. So in
Speaker 3: between staring at a screen and staring at a screen,
Speaker 3: having screens in front of my eyes that can project
Speaker 3: things onto things, and also audio and everything pumped into
Speaker 3: it in a five G or six G chip sitting
Speaker 3: right next to my temple and all that heating everything up.
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound appealing to me, in which I think
Speaker 3: I'm more of the mindset of uh interm use of
Speaker 3: technology a bit more these days.
Speaker 4: You're probably right. I think that's probably what Apple's scrambling
Speaker 4: to figure out, like what's the next big thing? And
Speaker 4: they're struggling with the idea of maybe there isn't another
Speaker 4: big thing. Maybe well it's cars, is what it is.
Speaker 4: But you're not doing that, are you.
Speaker 3: Or at least Ninemore.
Speaker 1: But unless they buy the drowning ones.
Speaker 4: Luckily they spent two billion dollars to realize it wasn't
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 1: Right, also known as chump change.
Speaker 3: Is chump change.
Speaker 1: Apple could have saved Fisker or anything. Apple could have
Speaker 1: bought any of those guys.
Speaker 4: They could pretty much by anybody, but Tesla at this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that opportunity kind of came and gone.
Speaker 1: Why didn't Apple, by twitter.
Speaker 4: Uh ping what they decided? They have bad experience with
Speaker 4: social media.
Speaker 1: Apple Connect, Apple Music Connect, and the other one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't even try with that one.
Speaker 1: What was that artists to connect with fans.
Speaker 4: Well, they could probably get Twitter for a lot cheaper.
Speaker 4: Now you have to protect freedom. But this is a
Speaker 4: cool story. Are we saving that for the next show
Speaker 4: or what I mean?
Speaker 3: We can? But Apple secretly tapping byd to build a
Speaker 3: battery for canceled Apple Car is very interesting choice. And
Speaker 3: I think in here they mentioned the Blade batteries might
Speaker 3: have been co produced, yeah, and or intended for the
Speaker 3: Apple Car.
Speaker 4: I have no idea if it's true, but that's so
Speaker 4: cool if it is, because the Blade battery pack is
Speaker 4: by far the coolest battery pack in any tesla, easily
Speaker 4: m for those who don't know's. It doesn't use nickel
Speaker 4: or cobalt, so it's cheaper to make, and you can
Speaker 4: charge it to full. It lasts longer. But also because
Speaker 4: of the Blade design and having so much better passive thermals,
Speaker 4: you can hold really really high charging speeds deep into
Speaker 4: the pack. So it's something I wish we had here
Speaker 4: in the US. We don't, but the people who have
Speaker 4: it out in Europe are very impressed by it, so
Speaker 4: if Apple had any say in it, like makes me
Speaker 4: even more upset that they didn't pursue the car project.
Speaker 4: It's like, come on, yeah, it could have been so good.
Speaker 4: But they're like, oh, I can't drive itself. I guess
Speaker 4: we'll cancel it. It's like.
Speaker 1: That's such a I hate that.
Speaker 5: I hate that so much. Stop trying to make things
Speaker 5: drive themselves. Just stop.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, the camera button has a shutter button.
Speaker 1: No one cares.
Speaker 4: I want to use AI to figure out when to
Speaker 4: take the photo, and because we couldn't get that AI working,
Speaker 4: we removed the camera.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 1: What, I'm just so, I'm just I'm just so overhearing.
Speaker 5: Autonomous driving period from Apple, from anybody, No more autonomous nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm just the it's the modern day version of flying car.
Speaker 4: Like in the eighties, everyone thought flying cars were going
Speaker 4: to be a thing, like, oh, the future will have
Speaker 4: flying cars, And the more you think about it, you're like, no,
Speaker 4: it's just not a good idea. It'll be too noisy
Speaker 4: and the air traffic and it's just a big mess.
Speaker 4: But now the modern day version is oh, yeah, self
Speaker 4: driving cars. I'm sure we'll get that soon. Of course,
Speaker 4: self driving car naturally yeah, and it's like Nope, maybe not,
Speaker 4: maybe it's not as practical as the all thing.
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't get it, like I don't under.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go too front because we'll say it
Speaker 5: for ev but I I I'm just tired of it, Like,
Speaker 5: how about make here's my frustration, how about you make
Speaker 5: a really good product first and then explore these weird
Speaker 5: niche whatever side passions with with software. But get the
Speaker 5: get the platform, get the foundation, get the hardware going
Speaker 5: first for any of them.
Speaker 1: Just have that, Which is why I've clammed up with
Speaker 1: Tesla for all those years, because it's like they do
Speaker 1: have the platform, they do have all this stuff. I
Speaker 1: just don't agree with their timelines or how.
Speaker 4: Much product was amazing with the self drive.
Speaker 1: That's my point. It should not be a selling feature.
Speaker 5: It should literally just be like, does this is the
Speaker 5: product for what it is?
Speaker 1: And we just happened to take AI photos? That will
Speaker 1: tell you what you're taking a photo off? Fine, whatever.
Speaker 4: Apple's having the same problem with the iPhone is they're
Speaker 4: trying to make AI the feature. A rabbit tried to
Speaker 4: make AI the product that went well, Hey, maybe when
Speaker 4: the iPhone seventeen slim. That's totally a fold of bull
Speaker 4: folds out like a flip phone. It turns into like
Speaker 4: the rabbit. U, I.
Speaker 3: Onto your shirt. Pocket's apple?
Speaker 4: All right? We just convinced Randy he's got to trade
Speaker 4: in everything. Mike, you could trade in a lot of
Speaker 4: Apple products and get a Ultra Marine iPhone sixteen.
Speaker 1: Are you mocking me? Yeah, you're mocking me. He's mocking me.
Speaker 4: Just an idea, Just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just an idea.
Speaker 5: Or Mike, you could take a sponsorship and just get
Speaker 5: one for free.
Speaker 3: Who was sponsor me?
Speaker 1: Who sponsors?
Speaker 4: True?
Speaker 1: I don't know how this happens. It just does. I
Speaker 1: said coffee beans once. That was my cellout.
Speaker 3: Look at that, I think the closest ever gotten.
Speaker 4: Scond.
Speaker 3: It looks more like the people from tron or Star Treks.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna save?
Speaker 4: Rogue? Are to save?
Speaker 3: Does he say that? I don't think he says that when.
Speaker 1: She's about to die?
Speaker 3: Wow, just freezing on Drew with that half smirk, staring
Speaker 3: into the ray band verse.
Speaker 1: Take photos of that.
Speaker 3: That's a he can use that, or there we go.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 1: That's a good thumb. Now you can use that as
Speaker 1: an outline for something.
Speaker 4: I could but I won't.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, well, hold on well lasting to
Speaker 3: highlight as a final thought. Oh geez, the FTC announcing
Speaker 3: that the click to cancel rule that requires companies to
Speaker 3: let cancel any product as easily as you can register
Speaker 3: be going forward.
Speaker 4: According to the Union us Rare FTC W.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you sign up with a click, they should
Speaker 3: let you cancel with the click. I think that's a
Speaker 3: man a big W. I'm gonna keep on highlighting these
Speaker 3: big w's from these tech companies, like Microsoft Office being
Speaker 3: a one time purchase.
Speaker 4: It's gonna say you always come in at the last
Speaker 4: second with like the best story.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about more of it next week if it's
Speaker 3: that interesting to you know, let's know.
Speaker 4: The we'll have a new site refreshed to talk about.
Speaker 4: Well will somehow make time for both.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody, We'll see you next week.
Speaker 5: Bye bye,