Speaker 1: All witnesses, suspects, and purses of interest are considered innocent
Speaker 1: until proven guilty in a court of law. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk right now
Speaker 1: in true crime, and then together we're going to work
Speaker 1: on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie.
Speaker 1: We are going to go ahead and get in to
Speaker 1: right now in true crime. So Courtney Clenney, who was
Speaker 1: the only Fans model who was accused of stabbing her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Christian Mamboosela inside a Miami apartment in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: has officially pled guilty to manslaughter. So she has been
Speaker 1: sentenced to six years in prison and she will also
Speaker 1: have to serve five years of probation as part of
Speaker 1: her sentence. Now, Courtney has already been in prison, so
Speaker 1: I did hear that she could be out in a
Speaker 1: little over two years, which is truly insane for taking
Speaker 1: the life of somebody else. She will not be allowed
Speaker 1: to benefit in any way, shape or form after she
Speaker 1: gets out off of the murder. She's not going to
Speaker 1: be allowed to do a tell all or her side
Speaker 1: of the story anything like that for profit, So at
Speaker 1: least that is a good thing. And she is going
Speaker 1: to also have to undergo a mental health evaluation and
Speaker 1: treatment as well as substance abuse of valuation and treatment.
Speaker 1: So that is kind of the update there. I was
Speaker 1: fully expecting this to go to trial. She was charged
Speaker 1: with second degree murder, and now she has officially taken
Speaker 1: the police. So that is kind of where things stand
Speaker 1: right now. If there is anything more to come out,
Speaker 1: I will be sure to let you know. Last week,
Speaker 1: the attorney for Christian's family released a statement in response
Speaker 1: to the deal going forward, and it said, in part,
Speaker 1: pleading guilty and accepting full responsibility will begin the process
Speaker 1: of bringing closure to a very tragic life changing of
Speaker 1: for the Ambuselli family. It's really sad and tragic all
Speaker 1: the way around. But that is the update on that
Speaker 1: one as of right now. And in Elec Murdon News,
Speaker 1: the judge has officially dismissed his civil lawsuit against former
Speaker 1: Clerk of Court Becky Hill. He was in the process
Speaker 1: of suing Becky Hill for all of her misconduct during
Speaker 1: his murder trial, and he was basically claiming that he
Speaker 1: had financial losses due to her tampering with the jury.
Speaker 1: So the reason it was dismissed was because he failed
Speaker 1: to show that her alleged jury tampering actually did cause
Speaker 1: financial losses that he had claimed in his suit. So
Speaker 1: he spent allegedly six hundred thousand dollars on his murder defense,
Speaker 1: which the judge said he would have spent regardless if
Speaker 1: Becky Hill had tampered with the jury allegedly, so that
Speaker 1: is the reason that it was dismissed. Eleck said that
Speaker 1: he liquidated his retirement fund to pay for his legal
Speaker 1: defense in the trial, which very well could be the case,
Speaker 1: but the judge understood that no matter if she had
Speaker 1: allegedly tampered with the jury or not, he was still
Speaker 1: going to have to pay for his legal defense. That
Speaker 1: is just how it works. So that reasoning wasn't enough
Speaker 1: to go through with the lawsuits. So it is officially dismissed.
Speaker 1: And that is probably for a little while at least,
Speaker 1: the last we are going to hear of the Becky
Speaker 1: Hill of it all. Now there is going to be
Speaker 1: a new Murdau trial, and I am going to be
Speaker 1: keeping you up to date as all of that is
Speaker 1: approaching and playing out because it is going to be
Speaker 1: another journey for sure. Okay, last thing I want to
Speaker 1: update on is Luigi BIANNGEONI is expected to plead guilty
Speaker 1: on Friday, meaning today if you're listening to this, in
Speaker 1: Manhattan Federal Court, because he's facing charges of stalking which
Speaker 1: resulted in the death of the health insurance executive Brian
Speaker 1: Thompson in twenty twenty four. So that is for the
Speaker 1: stalking charge. He is set to go to court in
Speaker 1: September on the actual murder charge of killing Brian Thompson.
Speaker 1: So I guess everything is going to play out in
Speaker 1: court tomorrow, and I will be sure to keep you
Speaker 1: guys updated on Right Now in True Crime next week
Speaker 1: because I don't really know what direction this is going.
Speaker 1: I assume it's just the stalking charges, but I will
Speaker 1: be sure to keep you guys updated as things start
Speaker 1: to come out. So we are going to call that
Speaker 1: good for right now in True Crime right now, and
Speaker 1: we are going to go ahead and get into this
Speaker 1: week's episode. Alrighty guys, we are jumping in to a
Speaker 1: brand new episode this week. I'm going to be telling
Speaker 1: you about the nineteen ninety two disappearance of seventeen year
Speaker 1: old Kelly Wilson out of Gilmer, Texas. There is a
Speaker 1: whole podcast on Kelly's disappearance called Deviltown and they do
Speaker 1: a multiple part episode deep dive on Kelly's disappearance, and
Speaker 1: I highly recommend that you guys give it a listen.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and link it below in
Speaker 1: the show notes so you can easily access it. Kelly's
Speaker 1: disappearance was in the height of the Satanic panic and
Speaker 1: many believed her disappearance was related to something Satanic cult related.
Speaker 1: We're going to get into all of that as the
Speaker 1: episode goes. Unfortunately, the case was very much overshadowed by this,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people had tunnel vision and believed
Speaker 1: that it was Satanic cult related. There was even an
Speaker 1: indictment made in the case, and one of the people
Speaker 1: indicted in relation was none other than the lead investigator
Speaker 1: that was working on her case. So this one has
Speaker 1: a lot of to turns throughout and still to this day,
Speaker 1: like I said, remains unsolved. Let's go ahead and get
Speaker 1: into Kelly's story now. Kelly Day Wilson was born on
Speaker 1: May eighteenth of nineteen seventy four to her parents Robbie
Speaker 1: Wilson and her mother, Kathy Carlson. She was born in Nakadish, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Her parents were divorced when Kelly was younger, and Kelly
Speaker 1: had recently moved to Gilmour with her mother and stepfather.
Speaker 1: Kelly was seventeen years old and went to Gilmour High School.
Speaker 1: Kelly is described by her family as being very, very
Speaker 1: energetic and involved in so many different things at school,
Speaker 1: from sports to cheer. Kelly had a boyfriend who was
Speaker 1: named Chris Dtton at the time of her disappearance, and
Speaker 1: we are going to be talking about him in this episode.
Speaker 1: Kelly was a normal kid in the last years of
Speaker 1: high school and very much looking forward to her future.
Speaker 1: She had gotten a job as a clerk at a
Speaker 1: video store called Northeast Texas Video that was located at
Speaker 1: one hundred Buffalo Street in Gilmour. So Kelly's story takes
Speaker 1: us to January fifth of nineteen ninety two. Kelly was
Speaker 1: working the night shift at the video store. Kelly was
Speaker 1: last seen around eight thirty pm by the manager slash
Speaker 1: owner of the store, a man named Joe Henry. Kelly
Speaker 1: had plans to drive to the bank that was just
Speaker 1: around the corner and drop off the stor's receipts from
Speaker 1: that day into the night deposit drive through window box.
Speaker 1: According to a newspaper report at the time, bank surveillance
Speaker 1: footage showed Kelly's nineteen eighty five Dodge Charger in the
Speaker 1: drive through, but she never made it to her next destination.
Speaker 1: According to Joe, the store manager, he last saw Kelly
Speaker 1: standing at her car before he drove off to his destination.
Speaker 1: Kelly had planned after running her errands that she was
Speaker 1: going to go to a friend's house to spend the night,
Speaker 1: but she never arrived. Once her family found out the
Speaker 1: next morning that Kelly didn't show at her friend's house,
Speaker 1: her stepdad drove to the video store in search of Kelly,
Speaker 1: and there he found her car still in the parking
Speaker 1: lot of the video store. He found the car unlocked
Speaker 1: with the left rear tire slashed. Kelly's purse and Oliver
Speaker 1: belongings were inside of the car, but her keys were missing,
Speaker 1: and so was Kelly. After that, Kelly was reported missing
Speaker 1: by her family and the investigation into her disappearance began.
Speaker 1: The lead officer on Kelly's case was a man named
Speaker 1: James yorke Brown. He was a Gilmer police sergeant and
Speaker 1: he devoted a lot of his job and his life
Speaker 1: to try to find Kelly. He would spend a lot
Speaker 1: of his off time investigating leads and even went as
Speaker 1: far as to put up a billboard on a maid
Speaker 1: Your Highway in Gilmer to try and help draw attention
Speaker 1: to Kelly's case. From the outside looking in, it seemed
Speaker 1: that he was the perfect man for the job, and
Speaker 1: it really did seem like he cared a lot about
Speaker 1: finding Kelly and making sure whoever took her was brought
Speaker 1: to justice. So with that the investigation began. The video
Speaker 1: stores receipts had in fact been dropped off at the
Speaker 1: bank only minutes after Kelly was last seen, and like
Speaker 1: I said, they did have surveillance footage of a car
Speaker 1: matching Kelly's dropped something off in the deposit box, but
Speaker 1: the footage was super grainy, so they were not able
Speaker 1: to confirm that it was actually Kelly driving the car.
Speaker 1: The footage was also very unclear as to if there
Speaker 1: was a passenger in the car. It has never been
Speaker 1: confirmed that Kelly was the one driving that night who
Speaker 1: actually dropped off the deposits. The first solid lead that
Speaker 1: police scot was April of nineteen ninety two, the investigation
Speaker 1: turned to seventeen year old Michael Bibbi, who went to
Speaker 1: high school with Kelly and is described as an acquaintance
Speaker 1: of hers. It was discovered that Michael was the one
Speaker 1: that slashed the tires on Kelly's car. Now, once he
Speaker 1: was approached with this information, he did admit to doing it,
Speaker 1: but he claims that it wasn't malicious or targeted and
Speaker 1: was just a random act of vandalism. He denied knowing
Speaker 1: anything about Kelly or her disappearance or whereabouts, and Kelly's
Speaker 1: car hadn't been the first car that had the tire slashed.
Speaker 1: A week before Kelly went missing, another employee of the
Speaker 1: video store also had their tire slashed. Michael was arrested
Speaker 1: and was convicted of a misdemeanor of criminal mischief and
Speaker 1: spent ninety days in jail and was ordered to pay
Speaker 1: a five hundred dollars fine. Despite this break in the
Speaker 1: CA case, they didn't have any evidence to actually tie
Speaker 1: him to Kelly's missing person's case or anything that suggested
Speaker 1: that he knew anything more about Kelly and her whereabouts. Naturally,
Speaker 1: they had to go to the people closest to Kelly,
Speaker 1: and they had to look at her boyfriend. Now, like
Speaker 1: I said, he was a guy named Chris Denton. So
Speaker 1: Chris was well known for having a temper, and like
Speaker 1: any young couple boyfriend and girlfriend in a relationship, they
Speaker 1: would often disagree and they would argue, and allegedly the
Speaker 1: night before her disappearance, they were seen having an argument.
Speaker 1: Chris himself really didn't have much of an alibi for
Speaker 1: where he was that evening, but his cousin would then
Speaker 1: come forward and say that they were together riding around
Speaker 1: cruising in Gilmer in his pickup truck that night. They both, though,
Speaker 1: had a really hard time keeping their store straight, and
Speaker 1: they both did fail polygraph tests. Now, you guys know
Speaker 1: how I feel about the polygraph tests, and I don't
Speaker 1: put a lot of weight on a failed polygraph versus
Speaker 1: a pass polygraph. I don't think in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, it really matters. But if you look up
Speaker 1: the facts of this case, that is something that is
Speaker 1: brought up about Chris and his cousin, So I did
Speaker 1: want to include it here. About a month after Kelly
Speaker 1: went missing, Chris also sold his car and he did
Speaker 1: so by driving it to Louisiana and selling it to
Speaker 1: somebody that took it across the border to Mexico. So
Speaker 1: obviously law enforcement wanted to get their hands on this car.
Speaker 1: They thought that this was a little bit suspicious, and
Speaker 1: they did everything they could to try to track the
Speaker 1: car down. Inside of the car, they did find some
Speaker 1: hair and they also noticed that one of the mats
Speaker 1: from inside of the car was missing. Later in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two, Chris also so faced some other charges because
Speaker 1: he was involved in an incident where somebody was stabbed.
Speaker 1: So Chris Denton and his cousin were looked at as
Speaker 1: two of the main suspects in this case by James
Speaker 1: yorke Brown, and James was trying to do everything he
Speaker 1: could to try and build his case against them. But
Speaker 1: in the midst of him trying to build this case
Speaker 1: against them, this is where we enter the satanic panic
Speaker 1: of it all. Now, this next part of the story
Speaker 1: is very convoluted, and honestly, it was a little bit
Speaker 1: hard for me to follow and figure out how it
Speaker 1: all connected to Kelly. But I'm going to do my
Speaker 1: best to try and explain it. Because this is a
Speaker 1: huge part of this case. If you look up this case,
Speaker 1: you see everything I'm about to talk about and all
Speaker 1: of the crazy, convoluted, hot mess of it all. And
Speaker 1: I really do believe that everything we're about to talk
Speaker 1: about out very much distracted from the actual case of
Speaker 1: Kelly being missing and what happened to her. I do
Speaker 1: want to credit a Reddit post I found on the
Speaker 1: Unresolved Mysteries thread that goes into detail about the possible
Speaker 1: connection between a local Gilmer family and Kelly Wilson. This
Speaker 1: post was the one I found that for me, was
Speaker 1: the easiest to follow, and I thought they did a
Speaker 1: really good job explaining it. So I'm going to be
Speaker 1: reading it as it was posted on Reddit, because honestly,
Speaker 1: trying to look at everything that is presented here and
Speaker 1: try to decipher all of it is a lot. There
Speaker 1: is a lot of family members, there is a lot
Speaker 1: of key players here, and it just gets very confusing
Speaker 1: and convoluted. I'm going to do my best to try
Speaker 1: and explain it to you guys. So everything kind of
Speaker 1: comes down to a family who was local to Gilmer.
Speaker 1: They were the Kerr family. So we're going to to
Speaker 1: take it back a couple of years before Kelly's murder
Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety, a man named Wendell Kerr told his
Speaker 1: wife Loretta that he wanted to get a divorce. Now,
Speaker 1: Wendell was one of six adult children of a man
Speaker 1: named Eugene Kerr who goes by Jene and Geneva Kerr.
Speaker 1: So Jene and Geneva had the following children, Wendell who
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, Danny, Oscar Kloy, Ronnie, Marie, and Donna.
Speaker 1: So those were the six Herr children. Now, jene and
Speaker 1: Geneva had a complicated relationship. They married in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: but they were married a very short time and they
Speaker 1: were divorced by the sixties. Geneva then married three different men,
Speaker 1: all of who died before she remarried Eugene. So Eugene
Speaker 1: gene was her fourth marriage. So she was married to
Speaker 1: Jean twice and three other men in the midst of
Speaker 1: all of that. So, according to their children, Marie and Donna,
Speaker 1: Jean and Geneva abuse their children almost daily. Kloy Kerr's
Speaker 1: first wife, Marie and Donna's sister in law confirmed their
Speaker 1: claims of sexual abuse and spoke of witnessing daily assaults.
Speaker 1: Danny was said to be Geneva's favorite and the one
Speaker 1: that she would assault the most. Chloy's first wife, in
Speaker 1: addition to seeing the abuse of the Kerr sisters, was
Speaker 1: also a witness to Geneva's interest in Satanic practices, including
Speaker 1: daily readings from the Satanic Bible and an interest in
Speaker 1: both animal and human sacrifices. Danny Kerr is seen as
Speaker 1: the quote unquote tougher mentality than his brother Wendell or Cloyd.
Speaker 1: He was married in Mexico to a woman, but did
Speaker 1: not make contact with her often, and then he had
Speaker 1: a common law wife named Connie Sue Martin, who was younger.
Speaker 1: She was twenty seven. Now, this common law marriage wasn't
Speaker 1: one that was a choice. In nineteen eighty four, a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old Connie had met Wendell while she lived
Speaker 1: in Arkansas and worked for them as a live in babysitter.
Speaker 1: After the third day, Wendell had sexually assaulted Connie. She
Speaker 1: was then taken to Texas with the couple, where she
Speaker 1: was traded off like cattle to Danny Kerr. She then
Speaker 1: had six children. She reported she didn't know if all
Speaker 1: of the children belonged to Danny as she had been
Speaker 1: sexually intimate with all of the curs. Connie also said
Speaker 1: that during one of her pregnancies, Danny had abused her
Speaker 1: and and basically aborted the eight month old fetus that
Speaker 1: she was pregnant with and had used it as a sacrifice.
Speaker 1: I know this is dark. I know this is terrible.
Speaker 1: In exchange for law enforcements help escaping the Kerr family,
Speaker 1: Connie offered to tell investigators everything. It is claimed that
Speaker 1: Connie was kept as a slave to the family for
Speaker 1: ten years. She couldn't drive a car, she was constantly
Speaker 1: threatened by Geneva and Danny, and her only form of
Speaker 1: identification was her birth certificate, which was kept by Danny
Speaker 1: in his wallet. According to her, her role was simply
Speaker 1: as a breeder. So in nineteen ninety, when Wendell asked
Speaker 1: his wife Loretta for a divorce, Loretta suspected that she
Speaker 1: was being brushed to the side for a younger woman,
Speaker 1: and then accused Wendell of abusing their children. Later, he
Speaker 1: was convicted of child molestation and put on probation. A
Speaker 1: state child welfare worker assigned to the case later concluded
Speaker 1: that other members of the Kerr clan were sexually abusing
Speaker 1: their children, and over the next several years, more than
Speaker 1: a dozen children were taken into protective custody, according to
Speaker 1: court documents. The social workers also concluded that the curs
Speaker 1: wasn't just a case of child abuse, but also involved
Speaker 1: in satanic practices. A social worker said in an affidavit
Speaker 1: that in October of nineteen ninety two, two of the
Speaker 1: children took us to show us where the devil people
Speaker 1: meet to sexually abuse and kill the babies. That is
Speaker 1: a quote. On January fourth of nineteen ninety four, Connie
Speaker 1: did a thirty page interview in the Harrison County Jail
Speaker 1: in Marshall, Texas, in which she described in gruesome detail
Speaker 1: the torture that Kelly Wilson would receive for approximately nine
Speaker 1: days before ending in a ritual satanic sacrifice and cannibalism.
Speaker 1: She described Geneva as the leader and said that Wendell
Speaker 1: Danny Eugene, herself, two of her children, Wandakerr, and Sergeant
Speaker 1: James Yorke Brown were all present during these events. Connie
Speaker 1: Martin and Wandakerr both had stated in interviews that Kelly
Speaker 1: Wilson was a quote birthday present for Geneva Kerr. So
Speaker 1: that is kind of how Kelly Wilson's name came into this.
Speaker 1: It was brought into this by members of the Kerr family.
Speaker 1: And that is how this case took a major turn.
Speaker 1: It became something that truly is so insane you cannot
Speaker 1: make the story up if you tried. So. In January
Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety four, a grand jury handed down indictments
Speaker 1: against eight individuals for the abduction and murder of Kelly Wilson.
Speaker 1: So the defendants were as follows, Eugene and Ja Wendell
Speaker 1: and his wife Wanda, Wendell's brother Danny, and two family friends,
Speaker 1: a former Gilmer police officer named Roger Holman and his
Speaker 1: common law wife Tammy Joe Smith. And the eighth person,
Speaker 1: like I said, was Sergeant James Yorke Brown. So basically
Speaker 1: the story went that many of these people, many of
Speaker 1: whom were in the Kerr family, were all involved in
Speaker 1: this satanic cult and they allegedly abducted Kelly and held
Speaker 1: her captive for days and proceeded to torture her and
Speaker 1: then killed her in a ritualistic type of way and
Speaker 1: then disposed of her remains. Now, all of this stemmed
Speaker 1: from basic eyewitness testimony of Wanda Kerr and Danny's wife,
Speaker 1: Connie Martin. They had both confessed their involvement in this
Speaker 1: satanic cult and also in Kelly's abduction and murder. Now,
Speaker 1: Wanda would later recant her confession and say that that
Speaker 1: was not true and that she was not in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form involved. But the question that I had
Speaker 1: was how in the heck did Sergeant James yorke Brown
Speaker 1: enter the story. So, one of the individuals that was
Speaker 1: involved with this family said during different interviews that he
Speaker 1: saw a man in a blue uniform at the scene
Speaker 1: of Kelly's murder, and then there were two separate people
Speaker 1: that basically picked him out of a lineup. So they
Speaker 1: were presented with this lineup of different men, and they
Speaker 1: both picked Sergeant James yorke Brown out of this lineup. Now,
Speaker 1: let's go back for a minute to Michael Bibbie, who
Speaker 1: was the one who admittedly slashed Kelly's tire. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: Wendell Kerr had actually lived with Michael and his family
Speaker 1: for a brief period of time prior to all of this. Now,
Speaker 1: Connie would later go on to testify that on the
Speaker 1: night of Kelly's abduction, that her family had received a
Speaker 1: phone call telling them to drive into Gilmour immediately, And
Speaker 1: basically this was implying that Michael had slashed the tire
Speaker 1: of Kelly's car in order to delay her departure to
Speaker 1: leave the video store and then her abductor's AKA the
Speaker 1: Curs would come in and swoop her up. Now, Connie Martin,
Speaker 1: who was one of the people who basically blew the
Speaker 1: lid off of everything and was given law enforcement all
Speaker 1: of this information did change her story quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and at one point in time, she led investigators to
Speaker 1: an area on the Kerr property where she said Kelly's
Speaker 1: remains were and it ended up just being a dead end.
Speaker 1: The only thing they found there were bones that belonged
Speaker 1: to a peg. So now we have the lead investigator
Speaker 1: on Kelly's case being implicated as being involved. There is
Speaker 1: just so much here, so many wild turn of events,
Speaker 1: and I really don't even know how we got here
Speaker 1: because the Kerr family cannot keep their story straight. And
Speaker 1: while I'm sure there is some truth behind what they're saying,
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, two people just randomly
Speaker 1: identified James yorke Brown from a photo lineup as being
Speaker 1: a man in a blue uniform, and that was enough
Speaker 1: for them to basically say that they were going to
Speaker 1: indict him. And the town of Gilmer was very split
Speaker 1: on if they thought he was involved or not. There were,
Speaker 1: of course, some people that very much did believe that
Speaker 1: he was guilty and in his involvement, and then there
Speaker 1: were people who truly thought he was innocent and that
Speaker 1: he was being brought into this for no reason at all,
Speaker 1: because there was no other evidence other than what the
Speaker 1: Kerr family said that implicated him whatsoever. There was nothing
Speaker 1: that tied him to Kelly's disappearance. So the police chief
Speaker 1: for Gilmer, who was named al McAllister, did very much
Speaker 1: stand by James yorke Brown and did not believe that
Speaker 1: he was involved in any way with Kelly's disappearance. Now,
Speaker 1: Kelly's mom and stepfather did believe that the Satanic ritual
Speaker 1: aspect of things seemed to be plausible and believed that
Speaker 1: the right people had been indicted. Kelly's dad and stepmother,
Speaker 1: who at the time were living in Louisiana, did not
Speaker 1: necessarily believe that they had the right people, and James
Speaker 1: York Brown, of course was trying to do everything he
Speaker 1: could to prove that this story wasn't true and that
Speaker 1: he wasn't involved. He conducted different interviews, and he also
Speaker 1: poked a hole in the case when he was able
Speaker 1: to uncover evidence that it was impossible for Wendell Kerr
Speaker 1: to have participated in the abduction and murder of Kelly
Speaker 1: in January of nineteen ninety two. So when Kelly was abducted,
Speaker 1: Wendell was working as a truck driver, and there were
Speaker 1: credit card receipts that showed and proved that he was
Speaker 1: on the other side of the country in New York
Speaker 1: on January fifth of nineteen ninety two when Kelly disappeared.
Speaker 1: So this one hundred percent pokesholes in the theory that
Speaker 1: the Kerr family was involved in the abduction of Kelly Wilson.
Speaker 1: So James got all of this evidence, he presented all
Speaker 1: of it, and was basically told that he needed to
Speaker 1: mind his own business and keep his nose out of
Speaker 1: the investigation. Which, honestly, if someone's accusing me of doing
Speaker 1: something I didn't do, I'm sure as hell going to
Speaker 1: gather the evidence and then present it because that's literally
Speaker 1: his livelihood. So the Texas Attorney General ended up getting
Speaker 1: the case and it pretty much instantly fell upon because
Speaker 1: there was no actual tactile evidence that James York Brown
Speaker 1: and the Kerr family had abducted and murdered Kelly Wilson
Speaker 1: or that this had anything to do with the Satanic
Speaker 1: cult type of sacrifice. So only two months after the
Speaker 1: murder indictments were handed down, the Texas Attorney General's office
Speaker 1: dismissed all charges against the eight defendants in Kelly's case.
Speaker 1: And because there were all of these claims, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of different child abuse charges that were brought
Speaker 1: against the Kerr family. All of those would also be
Speaker 1: dismissed as well. Now I don't know what to think
Speaker 1: about all of this as a whole. I don't know
Speaker 1: the validity of any of these claims that were made
Speaker 1: by these different people associated with the Kerr family. I
Speaker 1: do think that this family obviously had a lot of
Speaker 1: issues and there was a lot going on behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and there probably is some truth behind everything that was
Speaker 1: said as far as the different abuse claims, and there's
Speaker 1: of course like incestual claims. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: All I do know is James Yorick Brown was not
Speaker 1: involved in any way, shape or form with the Kerr
Speaker 1: family or with the disappearance of Kelly Wilson. And I
Speaker 1: truly do believe that with my heart and soul. I
Speaker 1: think because he was so heavily involved with this case
Speaker 1: and he was actively investigating it, he unknowingly got brought
Speaker 1: in and accused of doing something that he had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with, and the claims by the Kerr family
Speaker 1: and the indictments being handed down obviously took a serious
Speaker 1: toll on him, as it would with anybody. He would
Speaker 1: later have a stroke and come away from that having
Speaker 1: a permanent limp that would affect him his whole life.
Speaker 1: And he had also gotten married shortly before the indictments
Speaker 1: were handed down, and unfortunately, his marriage couldn't withstand all
Speaker 1: of the horrific rumors and he ended up up divorcing
Speaker 1: his wife. And unfortunately, in all of this there was
Speaker 1: such a distraction from what actually happened to Kelly Wilson,
Speaker 1: because at that point they hadn't found any evidence that
Speaker 1: she actually had been murdered, and at this point she
Speaker 1: was still a missing person. And then this whole cloud
Speaker 1: of suspicion came over James Yorick Brown and the Kerr family,
Speaker 1: and it just made everything so much more difficult for
Speaker 1: them to go back and investigate Kelly's disappearance. And on
Speaker 1: top of that, on October thirty first of nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: six boxes of police records and evidence from Kelly's investigation
Speaker 1: mysteriously disappeared from the Gilmour Police Department. I don't know
Speaker 1: how something like that happens, but it happened in this case.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to go back to talking about Chris
Speaker 1: and his cousin, because all of that was just a
Speaker 1: huge distraction from the actual case. So Chris's cousin would
Speaker 1: eventually go to trial for some perjury charges because he
Speaker 1: lied in front of a grand jury in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: So he went to trial in nineteen ninety five and
Speaker 1: he was convicted and received a sentence of three years
Speaker 1: and a five thousand dollars fine. He was accused of
Speaker 1: lying about his whereabouts the night of Kelly's disappearance, and
Speaker 1: then he had a female friend of his also live
Speaker 1: to help fabricate his alibi. He had a lot of
Speaker 1: people involved in the fabrication of this alibi. He lied
Speaker 1: about when he left his job, and there was a
Speaker 1: lot of inconsistencies in his story, inconsistencies that they were
Speaker 1: able to prove, and they were able to prove that
Speaker 1: he did in fact lie about his whereabouts. They were
Speaker 1: hopeful that maybe the fact that he was facing jail
Speaker 1: time and finds that he would implicate his cousin, Chris
Speaker 1: Dunton and tell law enforcement what actually happened, But that
Speaker 1: never happened. In two thousand and four, Chris passed away
Speaker 1: four cancer and he was never brought up at any
Speaker 1: charges in relation to Kelly's disappearance. Now, also very interesting,
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, Joe Henry, who was the
Speaker 1: individual who owned and managed the video store that Kelly
Speaker 1: worked at and was the last person to see her,
Speaker 1: was arrested after being found with child sexual abuse material. Now,
Speaker 1: there is no indication that Joe Henry was involved in
Speaker 1: any way or had anything to do with Kelly's disappearance.
Speaker 1: He was cleared pretty quickly by law enforcement. But this
Speaker 1: is just another example of how people that the town
Speaker 1: of Gilmer made really bad choices and got caught. So unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that is kind of where Kelly's case stands today. There
Speaker 1: hasn't been any new movement on her case. And of course,
Speaker 1: anytime you look up this case, you see the satanic
Speaker 1: panic type of information and you see all the reporting
Speaker 1: delves deep to the Kurr family and all of their
Speaker 1: alleged misconduct and involvement. So going back to the Kurr family,
Speaker 1: I don't know if what all has been reported and
Speaker 1: their account of what happened is true. I do think
Speaker 1: that there probably was some generational abuse going on there,
Speaker 1: but I also think there was a lot of fabrication
Speaker 1: and things that might have been inflated, a little bit
Speaker 1: twisted and convoluted as far as it coming to different
Speaker 1: Satanic ritualistic things, because I do think that if there
Speaker 1: was any involvement with this family and Kelly Wilson, it
Speaker 1: would have been uncovered in their investigation. They never found
Speaker 1: any evidence of any type of Satanic ritualistic type of
Speaker 1: killings or anything when it came to the Kurr family.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, them entering the picture and this whole story
Speaker 1: blowing up into what it was did take away from
Speaker 1: the actual story of Kelly being abducted. So to this day,
Speaker 1: remains have never been found of Kelly. I did see
Speaker 1: some different articles that state that it is believed by
Speaker 1: law enforcement that she is no longer alive, and that
Speaker 1: is kind of where things stand today. There is an
Speaker 1: age progress photo of Kelly and I will be sure
Speaker 1: to put that out on my social media pages if
Speaker 1: you were in the area of the video store in Gilmer,
Speaker 1: Texas in January of nineteen ninety two. Kelly was last
Speaker 1: seen wearing cut off blue jeans, a purple rugby shirt
Speaker 1: with red, gold and white insignia, and brown loafers. She
Speaker 1: was wearing a gold dome ring, gold emerald ring, gold
Speaker 1: diamond inset, Mexican eagle coin ring, a gold pinky ring,
Speaker 1: a gold chain bracelet, a gold watch, and triangle earrings.
Speaker 1: She had blonde hair and a retainer on her lower teeth.
Speaker 1: I think this whole story is just so trapped, not
Speaker 1: only because Kelly disappeared into the night and hasn't been
Speaker 1: seen or heard from since, but we also had the
Speaker 1: wrongful indictment of Sergeant James Yorick Brown, who, like I said,
Speaker 1: I truly believe is innocent in all of this, and
Speaker 1: I think them pointing the finger at him was distracting
Speaker 1: from something more. And I really don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I think there's something more going on here, and I
Speaker 1: think there's way more involved than we even know. And
Speaker 1: I think that there are people out there that know
Speaker 1: exactly what happened to Kelly. And once the Kerr family
Speaker 1: thing came out and a couple of people picked James
Speaker 1: Yorick Brown out of a lineup, I think that the
Speaker 1: people that really were involved in this thought that it
Speaker 1: was a great distraction and they just went along with
Speaker 1: it rather than getting the actual truth of the story
Speaker 1: about what happened. So I know that that was a lot.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of moving pieces, and the Kerr
Speaker 1: family thing was really hard to follow and super intense,
Speaker 1: and I hated having to go into the detail as
Speaker 1: I went into, but I thought it was super important
Speaker 1: in telling this story. So I do want to thank
Speaker 1: you guys for taking a little bit of time to
Speaker 1: listen to Kelly's story, because her story is so important
Speaker 1: and it is still unsolved, and as always I say,
Speaker 1: the more eyes and ears we can get on her case,
Speaker 1: the more likely we could have it solved. So take
Speaker 1: a minute to look at the photos of Kelly. Look
Speaker 1: at the age progress photo of Kelly. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be posting, and if you lived in Gilmour in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two, you could hold a piece to the puzzle.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a great weekend coming up.
Speaker 1: I will see you Sunday for a brand new summer series,
Speaker 1: The List Family Murders. We are slowly but surely winding
Speaker 1: down on that series, so I will see you guys then.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great weekend and stay safe. Bye.
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