Speaker 1: Four Nations face off final last night. Canada got it
Speaker 1: done in overtime, and I am still buzzing from the event.
Speaker 1: Not just last night, but I thought the tournament got
Speaker 1: a lot of people off guard in the best of ways.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes that's how life works. Our next guest, I've never
Speaker 1: interviewed them for We'll do a little hockey Little Utah
Speaker 1: Hockey Club and obviously the Four Nations face off with
Speaker 1: Tom Callahan on a Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Tom, Happy Friday, sir, how are you?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's Friday. I love it. I'm doing well.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Today I got to ask you
Speaker 1: how many corny Tommy boy jokes have you received over
Speaker 1: the years?
Speaker 3: All of them?
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, we were debating whether or not we wanted to
Speaker 1: bring that up, and I'm like, no, with a name
Speaker 1: like Tom Callahan, my man has heard this like his
Speaker 1: entire life.
Speaker 2: So it's good that we didn't lead with that, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4: I like to tell people I heard the movie twice
Speaker 4: before I ever saw it because people just, yeah, they
Speaker 4: love giving me lines too. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a classic for a reason, right, So it's not
Speaker 4: all bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you certainly have the name that is tied to
Speaker 1: a great movie, which I suppose is a benefit. But Tom,
Speaker 1: since I've never interviewed you before, tell me about yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of growing up in this business, how
Speaker 1: you kind of latched onto the NHL and what you're
Speaker 1: doing now, and let's go from there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So.
Speaker 4: I grew up in Buffalo, New York, so big Bills fan,
Speaker 4: growing up still Big Bills fan, you know, and grew
Speaker 4: up rooting for the Buffalo Sabers as well, and just
Speaker 4: always loved hockey, you know. Once I figured out I
Speaker 4: wasn't good at baseball I was like twelve, I ended
Speaker 4: up playing hockey ye around. It was just my favorite
Speaker 4: thing to do. And so eventually, you know, go to
Speaker 4: college and try to figure out what you want to
Speaker 4: do with your life. I ended up calling games and
Speaker 4: spent nine years in the minor leagues calling hockey and
Speaker 4: baseball and doing the occasional one off one there for like.
Speaker 3: Football or basketball.
Speaker 4: But that made it to the NHL with Nashville, did
Speaker 4: five years of play by play with the Nationale Predators. Uh,
Speaker 4: and after that I went from the Predators over.
Speaker 3: To ESPN Nashville.
Speaker 4: Actually, I did three years as a host there and
Speaker 4: then like a fool, decided I missed hockey wanted to
Speaker 4: go back to calling games, so I moved to Indianapolis
Speaker 4: and then Tucson, and.
Speaker 3: I just I missed him. It went two Son.
Speaker 4: That's where the whole Coyotes scene comes in is I
Speaker 4: was working for the Coyotes there. I had a chance
Speaker 4: to start up the Tucson Roadrunners in a pretty high capacity,
Speaker 4: so I was.
Speaker 3: Pretty excited about that.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, that didn't last because when the franchise was sold,
Speaker 4: that all kind of fell apart.
Speaker 3: But you know, it was a great experience. I loved it.
Speaker 4: Spent two years in the Coyotes organization and met some
Speaker 4: fantastic people along the way, and you know, just now
Speaker 4: post pandemic and everything kind of coming back online with hockey,
Speaker 4: I'd been looking for a chance to cover an NHL
Speaker 4: team again, and that's how I ended up with the
Speaker 4: Lockdown Utah Hockey Club podcast where I'm a co host
Speaker 4: with Robin Leano. And uh Yet it was easy for
Speaker 4: me as a franchise I already knew with some people
Speaker 4: I still knew in the franchise and have been watching
Speaker 4: now for the better part of I guess nine years.
Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 1: So I am also a child of the Northeast, the
Speaker 1: mean streets of Fairfield County, Connecticut, and grew up going
Speaker 1: to Madison Square Garden to watch the New York Rangers.
Speaker 1: And there's still my team this day. So you and
Speaker 1: I are Northeast boys, which is always good. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about this smash hit, this Four Nations faceoff tournament.
Speaker 1: According to the reports from bett MGM, DraftKings, and Fan Duel,
Speaker 1: all three sports books said it is the highest bettan
Speaker 1: on hockey event of all time by total tickets and
Speaker 1: we just have the ratings spilling, and I guessed that
Speaker 1: it would scratch ten million. It came close nine point
Speaker 1: three mil, which is the highest watched hockey game of
Speaker 1: all time outside of Olympic hockey. So by all accounts, Tom,
Speaker 1: this has been an unbelievable boom for this sport. Give
Speaker 1: me your thoughts on it, and I also want to know,
Speaker 1: prior to the events starting, what did you anticipate Because
Speaker 1: we have Neil Smith on weekly to talk hockey, and
Speaker 1: before it started, Neil, who was a general manager of
Speaker 1: a Stanley Cup winning team said that he was not
Speaker 1: really excited for this, didn't think it was going to
Speaker 1: be great. When we had him on on Wednesday, he
Speaker 1: ate his crow. What were you anticipating and what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on how it kind of manifested?
Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I'll say is, boy, doesn't that
Speaker 4: gets excited for the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 2: For Saltway for sure?
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, how pumped are you now? Just
Speaker 4: thinking down the road for that?
Speaker 3: But you know what, I it's kind of funny because
Speaker 3: being around hockey and being a.
Speaker 4: Very vocal Team USA guy, mostly on a team full
Speaker 4: of Canadians for most of the time I've been around
Speaker 4: the sport, you know, you take your good natured riving
Speaker 4: and you're not so good natured driving.
Speaker 3: But I've never played for Team USA, but it's important
Speaker 3: to me, especially when they go up against Canada.
Speaker 4: Beating Russia or Finland or Sweden is nice, but beating
Speaker 4: Canada is a must for me when it comes to
Speaker 4: Team USA and the sport of hockey and really any sport.
Speaker 4: But that's where the rivalry is, right. Canada really says, hey,
Speaker 4: this is our sport, and the US, especially in World
Speaker 4: Juniors lately and in a lot of other ways, has
Speaker 4: been flying a lot of that away. So Canada had
Speaker 4: a lot on the line for this, the US had
Speaker 4: a lot on the line for this, and quite honestly,
Speaker 4: not that Sweden and Finland weren't good rosters, but I
Speaker 4: think it was obvious going into the tournament Canada and
Speaker 4: the US were the class of the tournament. So the
Speaker 4: fact that they met in the final was not a shock.
Speaker 4: I think what was a shock to me. I didn't
Speaker 4: know what we were going to get. I know that
Speaker 4: the blood boils for these players when they play one another,
Speaker 4: but I also wondered if because it's an All Star
Speaker 4: Game replacement and you know that you have to be
Speaker 4: a teammate with the guy, we're any other sweater in
Speaker 4: another week, are you going to hold up on them?
Speaker 4: Are you not going to put him through the glass,
Speaker 4: like I wondered how that would pan out. Then we
Speaker 4: got three fights in nine seconds and that answered my question.
Speaker 4: In that first time that Canada to the US, Matt
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, okay, it's on, gloves are off.
Speaker 3: And literally it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people were very excited
Speaker 4: by it, and I think it brought some needed attention
Speaker 4: to the sport right now, if I could take a
Speaker 4: broader tack for just a moment, Metia rights are all
Speaker 4: over the map right now, Spence, and this is something
Speaker 4: that I'm keeping a close eye on. I've always been
Speaker 4: a sports media junkie, but ESPN and MLB are getting
Speaker 4: a divorce now, Formula one is leaving and I'm a
Speaker 4: big F one guy is leaving ESPN and a lot
Speaker 4: of rights are coming up, and it just seems like
Speaker 4: at the moment, with all the rsns going down, it's
Speaker 4: a very tenuous moment for sports in general to be
Speaker 4: carried over any medium. So I'm kind of wondering, you know, hey,
Speaker 4: how important is this going to be the fact that
Speaker 4: we really got some big time attention to this game?
Speaker 3: And do you keep this format? It was successful? Next year?
Speaker 3: Obviously you have the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 4: But you know, is this something that maybe you try
Speaker 4: to go and expand the format to maybe do another
Speaker 4: team that's Team Europe as a catch all for the
Speaker 4: guys that maybe don't have.
Speaker 3: A country to play for.
Speaker 4: But I think they finally hit on something that quite
Speaker 4: frankly flought some attention back to an All Star game.
Speaker 4: You know, baseball is all about the home run derby,
Speaker 4: not so much the game. Basketball it's the dunk and
Speaker 4: the three point and nobody cares about the game and football.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you the last time I watched the
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. I think I was still a kid. So
Speaker 4: I think it's a great injection into the sport.
Speaker 1: So, since you are a sports media junkie, how did
Speaker 1: the Kurt Russell plane Herb Brooks miracleonized speech land with you?
Speaker 1: Did you think that was the right move or did
Speaker 1: you think it was incredibly corny and also a bit
Speaker 1: misguided because there are two very different situations.
Speaker 4: Absolutely two different situations.
Speaker 3: I was actually a little surprised that that popped up.
Speaker 4: I understand the illusion, but yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty, that was USA versus Russia. And for folks
Speaker 4: who don't know, and you're kind of wondering where that
Speaker 4: came from, it's from the movie Miracle, which kind of
Speaker 4: you know, details as much as it can. It's like
Speaker 4: a little bit of historical fiction around the United States
Speaker 4: winning the gold medal. But you know, for Russell did
Speaker 4: a tremendous job playing Herb Brooks. Talk to anybody who
Speaker 4: knew Herb, and they felt he was channeling herb. Very
Speaker 4: important speech, very important moment in the United States history.
Speaker 4: Do I think that the USA Russia game had anywhere
Speaker 4: nearly important to that game last night?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: And I thought that was out of place. But again,
Speaker 4: I mean, look what we're dealing with here. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a Disney funded movie, ABC EST and.
Speaker 3: Disney they own the rights to the speech.
Speaker 4: Gives them a chance to revive kind of a movie
Speaker 4: that nobody's talking about for a long time. Maybe give
Speaker 4: it a little extra life and a bit of a boost,
Speaker 4: and maybe somebody watches on Disney.
Speaker 3: Plus. I understand why they did it. I just I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 1: Tell me your thoughts, because every time I hear Sean
Speaker 1: mcdonnac call a game, I'm like, this dude doesn't give enough,
Speaker 1: get enough credit for how what a mastery is at
Speaker 1: his craft. So give me your thoughts, Tom on the
Speaker 1: actual broadcast and how that was handled.
Speaker 4: ESTN does. I almost think ESPN is a little guilty
Speaker 4: of doing too much. They're trying so hard, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, And you don't mind McDonald's call at all.
Speaker 4: I enjoy listening to those guys, and you know, maybe
Speaker 4: I'm probably a little more critical having actually.
Speaker 3: Done the job.
Speaker 4: Than most people would be, But I don't think there's
Speaker 4: anything wrong with their personalities that they have, and especially
Speaker 4: when they let them stretch their legs a little bit,
Speaker 4: even in your mission with Sue Ban and Messia and
Speaker 4: letting those guys be who they are. Is everybody's trying
Speaker 4: to catch that magic that the NBA on TNT has,
Speaker 4: right like, that's what everybody wants. They want that whatever,
Speaker 4: that thing that Barkley and Shaq and Ernie and all
Speaker 4: those guys have, and everybody's trying to capture that lightning
Speaker 4: in a bottle. ESPN's trying that. What I don't like
Speaker 4: about ESPN is how they really graphically overload the broadcast.
Speaker 3: I wish they'd let it breathe a little more.
Speaker 4: You know, there's always a pop up marker and this
Speaker 4: guy's here, this guy's here, that guy's here, and here's
Speaker 4: where the puck and the shot and the stats and
Speaker 4: the thing and the like, Holy cow, guys, can we
Speaker 4: just watch a game?
Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe that's just me.
Speaker 4: Being a little more old school, I think, you know,
Speaker 4: I just wish they'd lay out with some of that
Speaker 4: stuff sometimes.
Speaker 3: But they're they're trying. They're trying to come up with
Speaker 3: a formula, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Now, I'm genuinely curious. I've never called
Speaker 1: the hockey game in my life. I've watched the grip
Speaker 1: of them, but since you have, I'm curious as to
Speaker 1: what your thoughts were on that.
Speaker 2: So, you know, Tom, whenever, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Mean this disrespectful at anybody, but if it's not football
Speaker 1: or basketball or baseball, you know, the fringe sports outside
Speaker 1: of the Big three, whether it's hockey or soccer or whatever,
Speaker 1: whenever there's a moment like this and this feels real
Speaker 1: to me, it feels different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighty miracle on ice led to a
Speaker 1: lot of people watching hockey in the way they hadn't
Speaker 1: prior to, led to a lot of parents putting their
Speaker 1: children in hockey in a way that we hadn't seen
Speaker 1: that prior to. And as you reference, the US just
Speaker 1: won the World Juniors and a lot of people drawn
Speaker 1: a straight line between the interests that was generated in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and the evolution of the hockey that has
Speaker 1: played in our country. Does this feel like the same
Speaker 1: type of seminal moment? I mean, Eruzione, that was cool,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Like when he walked out, I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: very nice. I thought that was really cool. But he
Speaker 1: said the buzz in that building reminded him of that
Speaker 1: game in nineteen eighty And ERUZIONI can be a little performative,
Speaker 1: as we know. But for a guy that's been in
Speaker 1: this game for a while, in a hockey historian, does
Speaker 1: this have the same type of juice? And what do
Speaker 1: you think this can do for pro hockey in America?
Speaker 3: Did it have the same juice? No, the juice I
Speaker 3: would compare it to.
Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned that because I was one of
Speaker 4: those kids that got on.
Speaker 3: The ice after the gold medal game.
Speaker 4: I started playing hockey in nineteen eighty one, so that
Speaker 4: that kind of tells you where I come into the equation.
Speaker 3: I was a child of that boom. You know.
Speaker 4: That's so I understand that completely. What I would actually
Speaker 4: compare this to is a couple of different games. Number One, actually,
Speaker 4: the last time the Winter Olympics were in Salt Lake
Speaker 4: and that game there where Sidney Crosby wins it in
Speaker 4: overtime or actually sorry, that was twenty ten. And then
Speaker 4: Salt Lake Olympics. I think both of those were big,
Speaker 4: and also the nineteen ninety six so it's really three moments,
Speaker 4: and the nineteen ninety six World Cup of Hockey. I
Speaker 4: think all three of those were important. I think they
Speaker 4: were best on best. They were a great showcase for
Speaker 4: the sport. And what happens is when you get people
Speaker 4: who don't normally watch the sport and then they follow
Speaker 4: through in the timing on this is perfect because we're
Speaker 4: about to hit the trade deadline in the playoff race
Speaker 4: in earnest and there's nothing like playoff hockey, and I
Speaker 4: think people will stick around for a month or two
Speaker 4: and watch the playoffs this year. So yeah, it's going
Speaker 4: to grow the game. It's going to grow interest in it.
Speaker 4: Youngsters are going to want to play. Is it going
Speaker 4: to be the explosion of nineteen eighty I don't know,
Speaker 4: simply because the US won the gold, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, It's hard to top that. But I do
Speaker 4: think we're in a different day and age where the
Speaker 4: people who are now.
Speaker 3: Going to be reached by.
Speaker 4: This, It's not going to be this explosion of a
Speaker 4: moment that happened on TV and then people talk about
Speaker 4: it for months. This is going to be something where
Speaker 4: it's going to be highlights on your phone, It's going
Speaker 4: to be on NHL dot com or on your team's
Speaker 4: web page. Guys are going to be talking about coming
Speaker 4: back from four nations. This is going to be the
Speaker 4: topic of conversation for a while now, and we're going
Speaker 4: to easily be able to recall those moments through video.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it is going to be a boost.
Speaker 4: I just I have a hard time comparing anything to
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3: To be honest with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally fair, and I was only two, so I
Speaker 1: don't have memories of it. But it's just kind of
Speaker 1: interesting watching the reaction after this tournament. The leak has
Speaker 1: said has got everybody off guard.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move.
Speaker 1: Over now to do a little Utah Hockey Club. Here's
Speaker 1: where I'll start this portion of our conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: now that we have seen the majority of the game's play,
Speaker 1: we do this thing where it's like, hey.
Speaker 2: It's halfway or halfway through the season.
Speaker 1: Well, we're very much not We were a number of
Speaker 1: weeks ago they played fifty six games. When they're successful,
Speaker 1: because it's been such an ebb and a flow, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll go on this streak and then they can't win.
Speaker 1: They have trouble closing out games. They don't win at home,
Speaker 1: which is wild. But when they're playing their best, excuse me,
Speaker 1: what are they doing well? And when they struggle what
Speaker 1: tends to happen?
Speaker 4: So all those are excellent questions, and I think with
Speaker 4: the Utah Hockey Club, honestly, it's pretty easy to identify
Speaker 4: a few things that go well and go poorly. First
Speaker 4: of all, when they're playing well, special teams is doing
Speaker 4: its job. The penalty killers are taking care of business.
Speaker 4: When they're shorthanded, they kill those those penalties off, and the.
Speaker 3: Power play produces.
Speaker 4: When Utah's power play is going, they really can get
Speaker 4: this team over the hump in a close game. And
Speaker 4: we've seen it time and time again this year, and
Speaker 4: that is one of the big things they do. Another
Speaker 4: thing that they do when they successful spences, they they
Speaker 4: spend a lot of time with the puck. Their puck
Speaker 4: possession numbers are good, their four check is good. So
Speaker 4: in hockey, it's not always a dump and chase. You
Speaker 4: don't always throw it in the corner and go get it,
Speaker 4: but a lot of times you do. But or you
Speaker 4: have a way to enter the zone when their zone
Speaker 4: entry plays are good and they maintain possession off of those,
Speaker 4: or they're dump and chase and that four check results
Speaker 4: in then maintaining possession of the puck. That's when they're
Speaker 4: playing well. And when they don't do that, when they
Speaker 4: turn the puck over going into the offensive zone, or
Speaker 4: when they don't come back up with it, when they
Speaker 4: don't win the battles on the wall, that's when they're
Speaker 4: playing poorly. So to answer the poorly side of the equation,
Speaker 4: it's that, and then it is also defensive lapses. I've
Speaker 4: taken to calling them naps a lot of people. If
Speaker 4: you listen to Lockdown Utah Hockey Club podcasts, you've heard
Speaker 4: me talk about the naps. They take naps, They just
Speaker 4: blow coverages. They lose their like energy and enthusiasm and momentum,
Speaker 4: and they sleepwalk a couple of shifts and inevitably the
Speaker 4: puck ends up in the back of the net. They're
Speaker 4: just not consistent when they're losing, and they don't give
Speaker 4: you that same effort, shift in, shift out.
Speaker 3: Is part of that.
Speaker 4: Being a young team, yes, is part of that. The
Speaker 4: fact that you know they've gone through all these injuries
Speaker 4: this year. Yes, but those are reasons not excuses. And
Speaker 4: I think that you know, if this team is ever
Speaker 4: going to make the playoffs, and they certainly have the
Speaker 4: ability to, they just need to be far more consistent
Speaker 4: than they've been.
Speaker 1: So help me understand they're at times inability to close,
Speaker 1: and maybe you just outline some of the some of
Speaker 1: the issues they have when it comes to the defensive lapses,
Speaker 1: because there've been and I think I've been i think
Speaker 1: five games at home, and I try to tune into
Speaker 1: every game when they're on the road, and oftentimes they'll
Speaker 1: enter the third period, I'm like, they got a shot,
Speaker 1: and then so many times they just tend to blow it.
Speaker 2: Is it youth? Is it lack of execution?
Speaker 1: Why is this team struggling to close when they have
Speaker 1: a lead or close in that period?
Speaker 4: You know, So there's three reasons why teams fail.
Speaker 3: It's gm, coach.
Speaker 4: And players, right, because those are really the three places
Speaker 4: where you get the contact in the games. I believe
Speaker 4: in Bill Armstrong in the way he's building a team.
Speaker 4: I like his philosophy. I don't think that's it. Andre
Speaker 4: Tourney is doing a good job as a coach. I
Speaker 4: don't think a seat is warm in any way. A plus,
Speaker 4: he seems to have very good relationship with Bill Armstrong,
Speaker 4: so I don't necessarily think that they don't like what
Speaker 4: he's doing. So to me, it kind of boils down
Speaker 4: to the players in their consistency. Some guys, like it
Speaker 4: or not, just for whatever reason, cannot apply themselves for
Speaker 4: that sixty minutes.
Speaker 3: And it's not that they're not gifted. Some guys take risks.
Speaker 4: Some guys are so gifted that they believe they can
Speaker 4: cover for themselves and always recover. And you know what,
Speaker 4: you can't in one hundred percent of those situations. You
Speaker 4: can sometimes and what it works out awesome? Right, you
Speaker 4: score this dynamic goal, the roof comes off the building,
Speaker 4: everybody's fired up. But then there's every other time, And
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: That that's what it is. It's managing the risks.
Speaker 4: But each person has to kind of come to that
Speaker 4: reconciliation on their own as a player. And again, I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I don't think this is the final form or shape
Speaker 4: of this team that's going to be in the playoffs
Speaker 4: two years from now, I don't. And it's going to
Speaker 4: change again at the trade deadline coming up here. So
Speaker 4: they're they're figuring it out, they're putting it together, and
Speaker 4: you know, for the first time, we're going to see
Speaker 4: what the defense actually looks like. We haven't seen what
Speaker 4: it looks like what we've been told it would be
Speaker 4: since October.
Speaker 1: You alluded to my next question, which is that trade
Speaker 1: deadline on March the seventh, And you know, I talk
Speaker 1: about this anecdote on air quite a bit. I thought
Speaker 1: it was so funny when we had the opening kind
Speaker 1: of press conference arrival event down to the Delta Center
Speaker 1: and you know, Spicy Tune is doing his thing and
Speaker 1: the crowd's going crazy and everybody's pumped, and Bill Armstrong
Speaker 1: is like, hey, everybody knows that we're rebuild, right.
Speaker 2: Like everybody's everybody's aware, like exactly what the deal is.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was so funny, and like you,
Speaker 1: I've been impressed with him. They've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: draft capital, they've got assets, they have clean books, a
Speaker 1: lot like the basketball team we have here in the
Speaker 1: Jazz do you anticipate anything getting done prior to that
Speaker 1: March seventh deadline, and if so, generally speaking, what do
Speaker 1: you think it is?
Speaker 4: Absolutely and all encapsulate quick because I know we're coming
Speaker 4: up on the top here there's nine defense from monsters.
Speaker 4: He comes back, and I'm excited to see Jersey back.
Speaker 4: I'm excited to get them as healthy as possible. But
Speaker 4: you've got Sergachev, Jersey, Marino, those are your long term guys.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going anywhere.
Speaker 4: You have a couple of big expiring contracts, veterans Robert
Speaker 4: Bortuso I and Cole.
Speaker 3: I expect them to be in play. Only Mada I love.
Speaker 4: I'd hate to see him go, but I understand why
Speaker 4: another team would want him because of his presence and
Speaker 4: his experience, and a couple of those guys Bortuso cold,
Speaker 4: they've won Stanley Cups. Then you have Valley, Mackie and
Speaker 4: Kessel Ringy signed for another year a piece, and Nick
Speaker 4: de Simone, who's really impressed come in as a thirty
Speaker 4: year old. He's inexpensive and I think he's done great.
Speaker 4: I'd actually like to see them extend him, So I
Speaker 4: think yes, they're going to make a move. It's going
Speaker 4: to be on defense. One of the goalies might be
Speaker 4: in play, just because of the contract situation there, and
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I don't rule out seeing the move a forward.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know there's.
Speaker 4: A team that comes crawling for like a bukestat a
Speaker 4: kerfoot of loss and Krause. I think Utah is in
Speaker 4: a position of strength. They have some cap room, they
Speaker 4: have the ability to make some move. They're going to
Speaker 4: continue to build it.
Speaker 1: This is trade deadline a radio pro knowing that we're
Speaker 1: approaching the top, Tom, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Where can people go find your work? My man?
Speaker 4: I'm honest, you want you spend most of my time
Speaker 4: on Blue Sky now social media, I'm at Tom Talks.
Speaker 4: I am still over on Twitter at Callahan on air.
Speaker 4: But you've got a better shout out getting on Blue Sky.
Speaker 4: Please check out the podcast Lockdown Utah Hockey Club podcast
Speaker 4: or on YouTube in anywhere you can download a podcast
Speaker 4: and love talk and Honky appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. It's been illuminated. Love to do
Speaker 2: it again. Okay, sounds good. Thanks Tom Callahan. Not that one.
Speaker 1: I'm very glad we didn't lead with the Tommy Boy
Speaker 1: stuff because I when I asked him how many Tommy
Speaker 1: Boy jokes he's heard over the course of his life,
Speaker 1: and he said all of them. I think we would
Speaker 1: have annoyed him greatly if we played like Chris Farley
Speaker 1: singing fat guy in a little coat or something.
Speaker 5: Well, I did have to warn him just in case,
Speaker 5: because I knew that I would go overboard with it.
Speaker 5: Tommy Boy was like my family's still to this day,
Speaker 5: maybe more often. We would watch that one, and I
Speaker 5: will have to admit I did come in with a
Speaker 5: maniac no.
Speaker 1: I caught that, and I just wonder how it landed.
Speaker 1: It was subtle because he sounds slightly annoyed. Oh now,
Speaker 1: I have all the best Tommy Boy scenes going through
Speaker 1: my mind where that they're when they're at the restaurant,
Speaker 1: he's like, it doesn't hurt here or here, but right
Speaker 1: he's got this big gash on his face.