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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much to Coleboy. That is a loser matchup

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<v Speaker 2>tonight in Texas. Neither of those two teams have any

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<v Speaker 2>threat to go to the super Bowl, but hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>have all sorts of threats here tonight on Nightside. We

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<v Speaker 2>will first of all talk about full great topics during

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<v Speaker 2>this hour, and then at nine o'clock when I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about memory loss issues for people of all ages, including

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<v Speaker 2>the young, by the way, and then speaking about memory

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<v Speaker 2>loss issues, we will be talking at ten o'clock tonight

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<v Speaker 2>about the decision by the Biden administration to finally allow

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine some long range missiles. What reaction will that elicit

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<v Speaker 2>from Vladimir Putin. I actually have a theory that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to run by you at ten o'clock. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's outrageous, but it's one that some of you

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<v Speaker 2>probably are going to be very skeptical of. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if we we got a kind of a bad cop

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<v Speaker 2>good cop going thing here with Vladimir potent, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Joe Biden and Donald Trump are coordinating on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain, But first of all, I have to introduce myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Rayam the host of Nights out here every

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<v Speaker 2>Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight. As the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Nicole Davis just indicated, Rob Brooks, our great producer,

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<v Speaker 2>is back in the control room in Broadcast Central headquarters,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're ready to talk a little baseball. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce you to David Hunt. He's the president of

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt Auctions. David Hunt, you're talking to a big baseball fan. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great, very very pleased to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you guys located? I don't recognize the area code. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We are based in Philadelphia. Outside of Philadelphia, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we traveled to do different events across the country, just

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<v Speaker 3>like the Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Event that just occurred. Oh gotcha. Okay, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>now the Ted Williams auction. You also have a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl auction coming up. We'll talk talk about that. But

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're in Boston. We're based in Boston, and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Ted Williams play. I wasn't there for his final

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<v Speaker 2>game on September twenty eighth, nineteen sixty, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>who he hit his final home run off. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you do as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well, I mean you think about that iconic ass

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<v Speaker 3>at that it just sums up really ted as a person,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not just as a baseball player, Like everything

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<v Speaker 3>had to be excellence everything, whether it's tying a fishing fly,

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<v Speaker 3>serving in two wars, you name it. It just he

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<v Speaker 3>just always had to be the best. And quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>many people think he was.

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<v Speaker 2>All hit and hitting four h six one year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have been able to procure i believe from

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<v Speaker 2>his daughter who passed away at a much too young age. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the memorabilia he's nineteen forty six. Marke

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<v Speaker 2>League had a player award, the fifty eight Silver Slugger.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, how tough is it? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just sort of like to get a little look

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes here. How tough is it to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a family or to even get access to a

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<v Speaker 2>family of a famous ballplayer baseball player, football player, hockey whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, do you have Is that how it works?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you basically just call them up and see what

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<v Speaker 2>you what you can do? Or is it a little

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<v Speaker 2>more sophisticated than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a little it's a little different. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is our thirty fifth year in business, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>been really honored to work with hundreds of players, players, families, institutions,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you name it. We've been with working with

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<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball for twenty five years, the NFL for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years. And I'd be great fortune in the early

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<v Speaker 3>two thousands to meet Claudia. She had actually come to

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<v Speaker 3>us for some help on just some general you know,

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<v Speaker 3>appraisal work and things of that sort. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've learned with players families we do not really cold call,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will, or approach or do anything of that sort.

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<v Speaker 3>We just sort of treat them as if they are

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<v Speaker 3>our family, and if they need some assistance, they need

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<v Speaker 3>another valuations, and most importantly, if they need a source

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<v Speaker 3>that can be trusted to give them sound advice and

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<v Speaker 3>what's in their best interest. And that's really the key,

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<v Speaker 3>is that last part. We all have things from our

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<v Speaker 3>family members, whether they are a baseball player, a plumber,

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<v Speaker 3>or a radio announcer. And we don't keep every single

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<v Speaker 3>thing that our families hand down to us. But famous

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<v Speaker 3>athletes and entertainers of that sort I sort of help

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<v Speaker 3>to interestingly and maybe not fairly frankly a different standard.

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<v Speaker 3>So our goal is always to do it the way

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<v Speaker 3>that's in the best interest of them and most importantly

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<v Speaker 3>the legacy of the player. So when we were approached,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, way back when it had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with selling anything. It was just being assistive to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we became dear friends, and also with her husband

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<v Speaker 3>Eric and you know, conducted a really historic auction in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve at Fenway Park with the Jordy Ted Things

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<v Speaker 3>partially benefiting the Jimmy Fund. It's just a wildly successful

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<v Speaker 3>event and Claudia kept a lot of things or some

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<v Speaker 3>things i should say, that were meaningful to her just

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<v Speaker 3>for holding down the road. And as you mentioned, really

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<v Speaker 3>just stunningly. Claudia passed away last year, just really tough,

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<v Speaker 3>really tough situation at the age of fifty two, way

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<v Speaker 3>too young. And so when we approached it was a

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<v Speaker 3>little difficult, you know, because of the situation. But again

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<v Speaker 3>with a portion of the things when Ted Williams Foundation

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<v Speaker 3>and knowing that she would want these things out there

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<v Speaker 3>for people to enjoy ment a lot to us and

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<v Speaker 3>it means lots of the people that purchased them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, when you have someone you know from

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<v Speaker 2>the immediate family and you know what the awards are.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's right. You don't have to authenticate an

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<v Speaker 2>autograph on baseball. That sometimes can be a little dicey.

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<v Speaker 2>So with all of this, I assume there's a letter

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<v Speaker 2>of authentical.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, that's a big, big help.

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<v Speaker 2>When does when does this Ted Williams auction end? So?

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<v Speaker 2>What when can people get a bid in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these items? Not too many people are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to bid on some of them, but there may

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<v Speaker 2>be some things that people have a chance to bid on.

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<v Speaker 2>When when's the auditor and when does it start? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe he hasn't even started yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a there's a couple of things that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the main grouping of them were sold this past weekend

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<v Speaker 3>either Louisville Slugger auction event, including the MVP award that

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<v Speaker 3>set a record a world record for any baseball v

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<v Speaker 3>MVP at five hundred and twenty eight thousand, the Silver

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<v Speaker 3>bath Brook two hundred and seventy thousand, and then there

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of just sort of interesting and fun

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<v Speaker 3>things for for people to bid on. Whether it's Ted

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<v Speaker 3>Williams sign piece or a photograph or what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, there, you are correct. There are other

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<v Speaker 3>things and other objects from Ted's collection that will be

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<v Speaker 3>sold over the period of the next I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, two or three months within within different auctions,

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<v Speaker 3>so it will certainly take a bit of time. It

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<v Speaker 3>was not all going to be in one auction, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if folks want to, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the super Bowl and say, if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>find your website, give us the website.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you had to hunt auctions dot com right

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<v Speaker 3>now you can see the results of the one from

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<v Speaker 3>this past weekend with the couple of Marquee pieces, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the future things post it will obviously of course

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<v Speaker 3>be notified on there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt auctions dot com. You know, one of my prize

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<v Speaker 2>possession as a baseball that I had Ted Williams signed

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I've got to be thirty years ago, so

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<v Speaker 2>he signed it in my presence. What is the ball

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<v Speaker 2>like that worth today? I'm guessing four or five hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's about right. And you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>what you just mentioned is exactly why people are drawn

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<v Speaker 3>to collect these items we get that question a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>like why would somebody want this Roberts, somebody want that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, none of us or most of us, I

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<v Speaker 3>should say, we're not privileged to be on that field

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<v Speaker 3>playing between the diamonds there between the grid iron, you know, posts,

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<v Speaker 3>and and so that attachment that we can get h

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<v Speaker 3>to our athletes and to our heroes for all these

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<v Speaker 3>generational pieces. And it could be something where your father

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<v Speaker 3>or grandfather or grandmother or mother took you to a

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<v Speaker 3>game and there's something you remember and then you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to meet that player down the road. So values value

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<v Speaker 3>is very subjective. It's really worth what it's meant or

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<v Speaker 3>what it means to someone. So when these pieces are sold,

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<v Speaker 3>an awful lot of the time it's driven by emotion

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<v Speaker 3>and what that particular item means to one person, and

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully it's the auctioneer to more than one person, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how those prices get driven up and sometimes to

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<v Speaker 3>record prices.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about the Super Bowl. I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>have the Super Bowl auction coming up? Is that before, during, after,

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<v Speaker 2>or all three of the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it sure feels like all three. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful event to start twenty first year doing it with

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL and NFL auction program, of which they give

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<v Speaker 3>us pieces. One hundred percent of those persons go to

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<v Speaker 3>NFL auction charities across the league, and then even the

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<v Speaker 3>vintage items, it's sort of a program we started way

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<v Speaker 3>back when. So if a player or just vnted items

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<v Speaker 3>come in and are sold, a portion of those proceeds

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<v Speaker 3>still go to unfauction charities. But we are down on site.

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<v Speaker 3>This year will be in New Orleans, and we're there

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<v Speaker 3>for almost two weeks setting up and preparing, and the

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<v Speaker 3>event opens at the convention center that's related to the city.

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<v Speaker 3>This year in New Orleans, where all the items are

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<v Speaker 3>on preview and you know, hundreds of thousands of people

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<v Speaker 3>come through of course at being the Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it culminates with the live auction the day before

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<v Speaker 3>the game actually Super Bowl Saturday, down in the city.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's always an exciting event. It is certainly a

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<v Speaker 3>very exhausting events, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I think most football fans remember that Butt Starr,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe is the MVP of the first two Super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly quarterback. A Butt Star memorabilia that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be part since that's the first two Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny you ask, Yeah, we actually have a very significant collection.

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<v Speaker 3>A noted Midwestern collector passed away a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is He actually worked as an usher at

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<v Speaker 3>Lambeau for Lambofield and Green Bay for a number of years,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's got one of the most significant green Bay

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<v Speaker 3>Packers questions has ever come up to auction pennance from

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen thirties. You know, there are Super Bowl programs

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<v Speaker 3>signed by Bart Starr, both one and two, lots of

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<v Speaker 3>game use pieces. So and you get into these iconic franchises, packers,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Chicago Bears and Atriots into their era, and

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<v Speaker 3>it really is what's so fascinating and interesting about the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>There's such a wide reach there, both internationally and Nashally.

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<v Speaker 3>When we go to the Super Bowl each year for

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<v Speaker 3>this event, a lot of clients are flying from all

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<v Speaker 3>over the world and they actually end up getting on

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<v Speaker 3>things from US football team. So it's always interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>see where the objects will go.

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<v Speaker 2>David Hunt I really enjoyed our conversation and I may

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<v Speaker 2>so much for your time. Again, it's Hunt auctions dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>auctions dot Com. Thanks David, thank you, good night, very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we are going to again have

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting guest, the founder of the Grand Kiev

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<v Speaker 2>Ballet which is coming the Grand Kiev Ballet which is

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now on Nightside. Great honor to have the

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<v Speaker 2>Kiev Ballet, Alex Stoyanov. Alex I hope I came close

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<v Speaker 4>Yes you did, right, Alexander, Alex Tenov, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Stoynoff, Yes, Okay, so it all comes together, okay

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<v Speaker 2>for a Stoynoff. Okay, So tell us you coming to

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<v Speaker 2>Boston and I've looked at the website and it looks

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<v Speaker 4>Is that correct, Yes, it's correct. Last time when it

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<v Speaker 4>sold out maybe three weeks before before the show. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why this time we bring we bring your bringing for

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<v Speaker 4>the Boston two different productions. One it's a Nutcracker and

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<v Speaker 4>one it's Snow Queen. Snow Queen. It's the World Ballet

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<v Speaker 4>premier and it's with new heirography, with new costumes, new decorations.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something new for everybody. It's special for the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, how how much does the Grand Kiev Ballet. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you on the road all the time or do you

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<v Speaker 2>spend back? Are you still at all performing? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine the circumstances that it must be like at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, we are we are artists and we

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<v Speaker 4>or on the road, and every time we live in uh,

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<v Speaker 4>live in movement every time because on the stage and everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>because artists life it's too short. You know, our ballet

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<v Speaker 4>dancers have a short stage life. Just till thirty eight

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<v Speaker 4>years maybe. Uh, And that's why we every time try

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<v Speaker 4>I think you understand me.

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<v Speaker 2>How how big is the the entourage that that you

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<v Speaker 2>travel with between dancers and and support staff. How how

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<v Speaker 4>Suprise?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>You know for now we have different groups and who

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<v Speaker 4>dancing in different countries the same time in the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>In the United States we have two groups. Two groups.

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<v Speaker 4>It's thirty dancers and five people of five people from

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<v Speaker 4>the technical stuff. And totally we have for now one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred twenty dancers on different tours all around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, now you're the founder of the Grand Keep Ballet.

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<v Speaker 2>What what year did you You're you're still dancing, as

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<v Speaker 2>I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>That I'm still dancing, but I for now I am

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit starts preparing to retirement because I am

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<v Speaker 4>thirty seven. I think I have one more year for

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<v Speaker 4>dancing on the stage. But you know, I need to

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<v Speaker 4>work now more like in an administrative work with my computer,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's really difficult to do all these you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like schedules. It's really I'm waking up in the morning

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<v Speaker 4>In which city and which country? And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>I then danced a lot. I danced more than three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred performances per year, and my body also a little

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's you're not only your artists, but your

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<v Speaker 2>your athletic artists as well. I mean you're in fine

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<v Speaker 2>shape and condition. I could never have done what you

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<v Speaker 2>have done. So tell me, do do the artists do

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<v Speaker 2>you get a break during the year? Are they able

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<v Speaker 2>to go home and see their family? Are you at

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<v Speaker 2>this point out of the country until this horrific war ends?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, afterwards started a lot of our dancers, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of took their family from Ukraine and now they're

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<v Speaker 4>living in safety place like in Poland, in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>in other different countries because a lot of artists have children,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is very important for us now have safety

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<v Speaker 4>plays for the children and also for our artists. Our

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<v Speaker 4>ballet students and the ballet artists have already fined some

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<v Speaker 4>places for new work in the United States. In Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of dancers who dancing with us here in

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<v Speaker 4>the with the Grand q Ballet. They have families in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 4>but they try to support them. They every time send

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<v Speaker 4>send them money. And you know a lot of our yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of parents from our artists. It's this is

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<v Speaker 4>not young people, and they don't don't want to don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to move from Ukraine to another country. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you understand. It's difficult another language. Friends. For young people,

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<v Speaker 4>it's okay. For artists, it's good, but not for old people.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let me just focus on Boston. It's at

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<v Speaker 2>the Emerson Colonial Theater and there are two shows, the

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<v Speaker 2>Nutcracker and the Snow Queen. Uh, and I believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>let me make sure I had the dates here correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's November twenty ninth and November thirtieth, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's two show and that's it. Friday night the Nutcracker

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<v Speaker 2>November twenty ninth, and then Saturday the Snow Queen, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's it's it's not a long run where you're here

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<v Speaker 2>for two weeks. So if they want to see the

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Kiev Ballet, those are the two nights. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>reading it properly? Correctly?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct? Everything correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and they can get their tickets through the Emerson

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<v Speaker 2>Colonial Theater box office, and we wish you a great

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<v Speaker 2>success here in Boston. I'm sure you'll be welcomed warmly

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully we can get this war over with so

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<v Speaker 2>that your people and some people in Russia who are

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<v Speaker 2>supporting you can stop suffering. So Alex stan I have

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<v Speaker 2>a pleasure to have met you tonight over the radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. Thank you. I hope everybody will

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll love them. I'm sure they'll love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Alex. Safe home, Okay, thank thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we get back, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something that most of us will be participating in

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<v Speaker 2>in some form of fashion, of Thanksgiving dinner. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with Bill Dendy, who knows a lot about prices.

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<v Speaker 2>The price for a traditional Thanksgiving dinner from last year

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<v Speaker 2>to this is up nineteen percent. That's a huge increase.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it will not prevent any family from gathering around

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<v Speaker 2>the table. We'll talk to Bill Dendy maybe about what

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<v Speaker 2>can be done a little bit, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to follow on the food theme talking with doctor Shira

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<v Speaker 2>Dorone about that call e Coli outbreak that believe at

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<v Speaker 2>this point the scientists belief started from some organic carrots.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of that, and then we will

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<v Speaker 2>move on and talk about memory issues for people of

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<v Speaker 2>all ages with doctor Andrew Budson, neurologists of Boston University.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from ten to midnight, I'd like to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the latest development in Ukraine, which is at US

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<v Speaker 2>now has authorized Ukraine to use long range missiles in

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<v Speaker 2>their battle with Vladimir Putin and the Russian military. Back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well about what's it ten days from now? I think,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken yet, ten days from now, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>all of us will gather with friends and family for

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving dinner. This year, it's going to be more expensive

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<v Speaker 2>with us, is Bill Dandy? Bill has been a guest before.

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<v Speaker 2>He's someone who keeps an eye on the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 2>that is for sure, and inflation has impacted. The average

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<v Speaker 2>cost of food, drinks, to court, etc. For Thanksgiving has

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<v Speaker 2>now gone up nineteen percent this year. Is that just

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<v Speaker 2>from last year?

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<v Speaker 6>Bill, that's a year over year increase, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>a survey for lending Tree, and you will find various

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<v Speaker 6>surveys out there showing that, you know, over the past

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<v Speaker 6>five years, it's definitely more expensive. But we thought inflation

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<v Speaker 6>was just about done. But for some parts of that

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<v Speaker 6>things Giving feast, we haven't seen the low inflation rates

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<v Speaker 6>of two and three percent. We're seen like eighteen and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty percent. And for a lot of folks who were

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<v Speaker 6>finan it difficult already to get by paycheck to paycheck,

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<v Speaker 6>and cost of things have gone up twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 6>five percent over the past three years. This extra holiday

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<v Speaker 6>of Thanksgiving can be a challenge for them to budget

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<v Speaker 6>in because you know, we had the holiday of Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 6>then we have the Christmas and Honka season where people

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<v Speaker 6>want to do more for the people they care about,

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of folks find this to be one

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<v Speaker 6>of the most financially stressful times of the year. And

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<v Speaker 6>we're getting ready to get hit hard, as you say,

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<v Speaker 6>in ten days as we start preparing for that Thanksgiving Peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Bill your financial strategy. It is just with Raymond James.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had you on before. H what is it about

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving that is bumping up? I mean, I'm assuming that turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even if you're cooking a turkey for six

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<v Speaker 2>or eight people or who knows even more, has the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the main dish. Well, I know some people have

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<v Speaker 2>other main dishes, but turkey is what we what we

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<v Speaker 2>mostly associate with Thanksgiving. Has the price of turkey gone up?

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<v Speaker 6>Turkey has actually come down. Some turkey is a blessed

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<v Speaker 6>but I remember turkey was really high price. You might

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<v Speaker 6>recall a few years ago we had some shortages and

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<v Speaker 6>supplies and some problems with what was the Avian flu,

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<v Speaker 6>and turkey's broad as abundant, and so with the with

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<v Speaker 6>the reproduction of the turkeys over the last few years,

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<v Speaker 6>they have come down in price. Fresh turkeys down about

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<v Speaker 6>sixty cents a pound, which is great. But the other

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<v Speaker 6>things that we put on that table have not gone down.

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<v Speaker 6>Things like our vegetables and our side dishes and our

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<v Speaker 6>cranberries and decorations are up about twenty to twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>percent from where they were a year ago, and more

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<v Speaker 6>people are doing more decorations and other things when they

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<v Speaker 6>throw a Thanksgiving party. In fact, for those making over

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<v Speaker 6>six make it over one hundred thousand years six figure incomes,

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<v Speaker 6>they're spending about five hundred dollars to put on a

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<v Speaker 6>Thanksgiving dinner, and for some they're thinking that's just a

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<v Speaker 6>little more than they want to do this year, so

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<v Speaker 6>they're trying to find ways to cut the cost and

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<v Speaker 6>to maybe go back to more of the basics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I would think that in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>like that, where people are really finding difficult, then obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it can. It can affect a lot of people, which

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<v Speaker 2>we just saw in the election that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who normally would have voted for a Democratic candidate

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<v Speaker 2>seems to have at least temporarily switched party affiliation. Assume

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<v Speaker 2>that on the decorations, you can cut back a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and maybe use some of the decorations that are

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<v Speaker 2>still around from a year ago. Because when I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Thanksgiving, I talk about, you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>fiveps and see if I can get them, you know, food, family, fun, football, festivities.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's all about family and about having friends over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's I think it should be the least stressful

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<v Speaker 2>of all the holidays Christmas and Hanukkah and New Year's.

426
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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of stress involved in that because you've

427
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<v Speaker 2>got to make sure you think of everybody Thanksgiving, you

428
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<v Speaker 2>just say, Okay, who's coming over. Maybe someone will bring

429
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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of wine or whatever, and you know, I

430
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if people can can maybe take some of

431
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<v Speaker 2>the pressure off of those some of the techniques people

432
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<v Speaker 2>can use to sort of take some of the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>off the people the people who are in.

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<v Speaker 6>There, and that's exactly the party. You're right on target.

435
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<v Speaker 6>I think that as guests we should be more in

436
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<v Speaker 6>climb than ever before to show up with something, bring

437
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<v Speaker 6>that bubble of wine, ask if you can do the

438
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<v Speaker 6>sweet potato casse role or something else they may not

439
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<v Speaker 6>have on the menu. Especially if you do something well,

440
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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of fun to do the pop luck and

441
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<v Speaker 6>to take some burden off the hostess. I think for

442
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<v Speaker 6>a lot of families, mom always does it every single

443
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<v Speaker 6>year and she's got it down. But to bring a

444
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<v Speaker 6>combination of the desserts of the pies to the party

445
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<v Speaker 6>is the way a lot of people are coping with it,

446
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<v Speaker 6>and it actually makes it more like the original Thanksgiving,

447
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<v Speaker 6>where you show up with what she can and make

448
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<v Speaker 6>a feast out of what was already abundant around you.

449
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<v Speaker 6>So I think you really actually get back into the heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Spirit of being thankful and sharing and having that togetherness

452
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<v Speaker 6>that you speak of. It does not have to break

453
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<v Speaker 6>the budget. It should not be the beginnings of a

454
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<v Speaker 6>stressful season. Thanksgiving should be the easier. One price of

455
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<v Speaker 6>turkey is down, that's the main dish on the plate.

456
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<v Speaker 6>We don't have to have four different types of sounds

457
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<v Speaker 6>and ten different pies. It's possible to do Thanksgiving very elogantly,

458
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<v Speaker 6>very fulfillingly by sharing the burden and doing it on

459
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<v Speaker 6>a budget. And I think that's why a lot of

460
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<v Speaker 6>people just are forced to do now that maybe we

461
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 6>didn't have to do a few years ago, and that's

462
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<v Speaker 6>been more responsible for the dollars we're spending. We want

463
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<v Speaker 6>to get maximum use of those dollars. We know that

464
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<v Speaker 6>things are costing more, and so I think it's just

465
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<v Speaker 6>tying up and developing better habits, and Thanksgiving is one

466
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<v Speaker 6>of those times we can certainly do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, if you think, as a guest, and

468
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<v Speaker 2>we will be guests, what it would cost for you

469
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<v Speaker 2>and your significant other, your spouse, your wife, your husband,

470
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe a couple of kids to go to a

471
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<v Speaker 2>restaurant you're talking about at a minimum. I think of

472
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<v Speaker 2>like a couple hundred bucks, so bring a couple of

473
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<v Speaker 2>extra pies or bring two bottles of wine.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, you'll be a pre shared by the host is

475
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<v Speaker 6>even if they don't expect it. I said, let's not

476
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<v Speaker 6>show up into handed this year. That's a big I mean,

477
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 6>there's a clue to the world. And I think that's

478
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<v Speaker 6>one of the things that is part of being a

479
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<v Speaker 6>good guess. And I know a lot of our listeners

480
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<v Speaker 6>are going to say, well, I never show up at

481
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<v Speaker 6>the handed, I bring the flowers or something always, and

482
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 6>others are going to say, what you're supposed to bring something?

483
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<v Speaker 6>And I think it's that awareness that is important, and

484
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<v Speaker 6>that's part of sharing the lave of Thanksgiving.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely good advice, Bill good financial advice. What's the market

486
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<v Speaker 2>doing the last few days? It seems to be, you know,

487
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>fluttering and uh, what what's causing the the the the

488
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<v Speaker 2>negative returns in the last In the last week or so,

489
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the market took off. It seems to have.

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<v Speaker 6>Why after the election results came out and they were

491
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<v Speaker 6>so positively republican. Uh, the market loved it. The market

492
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 6>was up a thousand points first day. Another found it

493
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 6>was a good time because it looked like all the

494
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 6>deregulation and the tax cuts that Trump had wanted to

495
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<v Speaker 6>do will probably come to pass. The problem is over

496
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<v Speaker 6>the past few days. In fact, in Dallas this week,

497
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<v Speaker 6>I mean sorry, the end of last week, our FED

498
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<v Speaker 6>chairman spoke and said, well, you know, all these things

499
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<v Speaker 6>are inflationary in nature. If companies take more profit to

500
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<v Speaker 6>the bottom line, to the tax cuts and our deregulation,

501
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 6>this may prohibit the FED from lowering rates. Now, the

502
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<v Speaker 6>Fed is said for twenty four months they're going to

503
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<v Speaker 6>start lowering rates as soon as inflation looks like it's

504
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 6>cooled off, and they lowered rates fifty basis points than

505
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<v Speaker 6>in November, another twenty five basis points with the statement

506
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<v Speaker 6>that they're probably going to keep lowering. But after the

507
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 6>election things have changed. They're saying that the tax cuts

508
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 6>and the deregulations are so and the tariffs are so

509
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<v Speaker 6>inflationary in nature that they may not be able to

510
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<v Speaker 6>continue to cut weights. So you had a market that

511
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<v Speaker 6>originally had priced in the FED continuing to follow the

512
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<v Speaker 6>path that they said that they were going to follow,

513
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<v Speaker 6>and the reduction and taxes and the tariffs and the deregulation,

514
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 6>and they felt party on this is a big positive

515
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<v Speaker 6>time for the stock market. But then to get the

516
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 6>comments that, oh, well, maybe we're not going to get

517
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 6>the lower en of interest rates. Maybe rates are going

518
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<v Speaker 6>to pause here and maybe go back up, and we

519
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 6>may see inflation that was suddenly negative. And so it's

520
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 6>kind of like watching the tide change and the wind

521
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 6>is blowing from the opposite direction. The tide will usually win,

522
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 6>but it sure has a lot of turmoil as to

523
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 6>get that tide changing, and that's what's happening right now

524
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<v Speaker 6>in the market in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Bill Denny, we've got to too for out of you.

526
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>We got Thanksgiving and also an overview of the market situation.

527
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The market was okay today, so hopefully it'll be better tomorrow.

528
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<v Speaker 2>Bill Dendy, financial strategist at Raymond James, Thank you so much,

529
00:29:59.039 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>my friend.

530
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<v Speaker 6>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you, Bill, we come up. We're going

532
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<v Speaker 2>to talk about another problem, and that's an E Coli outbreak.

533
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<v Speaker 2>On a talk with doctor Shirah Doerome. She's the chief

534
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Infection Control Officer for Tuft's Medicine and hospital epidemiologist at

535
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Tuft's Medical Center. This supposed is related to organic carrots.

536
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<v Speaker 2>We'll explain, or doctor Derome will explain. Will we come

537
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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

539
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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony is Now. Doctor Shira Doerne apologized for the mis

541
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<v Speaker 2>pronunciation in the first the first name, doctor Deron. How

542
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>are you tonight?

543
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<v Speaker 5>Good?

544
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<v Speaker 2>How are you? I'm doing all the better that I

545
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't had organic carrots in a long time. I don't

546
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 2>think I've ever had organic carrots. But what's the deal here?

547
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<v Speaker 2>Any idea where is this limited to? I hope it's

548
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>not in New England?

549
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I'm looking at a recent map here and

550
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 5>it looks like there has been one at least one

551
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 5>case found in Massachusetts, and of course New York is

552
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 5>sort of the most one of the most concentrated states now,

553
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.960
<v Speaker 5>so you know, I think we may find that there

554
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 5>are some cases here in our area, and that is

555
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, that is how these things go. Once we

556
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 5>realize that there is an outbreak, it can take some

557
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 5>time to figure out how extensive it is.

558
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so E Coli is one of those outbreaks that

559
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>no one wants to be involved with. Obviously, it's going

560
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<v Speaker 2>to cause at a minimum, some gastro intestinal problems.

561
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<v Speaker 6>Correct, that's right.

562
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<v Speaker 5>You can have nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. The diarrhea can be bloody.

563
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 5>You might have fever, body aches, and insevere cases. You

564
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 5>could need hospitalization due to dehydration, kidney problems, and some

565
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 5>other sort of blood and vascular related problems. And that

566
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 5>they are reporting that there appears to have been one

567
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 5>death so far from this outbreak.

568
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 2>How is it with all the controls that we have,

569
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the FDA and all of that, how

570
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is it that periodically that just was that that event

571
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<v Speaker 2>with I think McDonald's about a month and a half ago,

572
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>or with some of the onions and on some of

573
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>the big mac burgers. How does this occur? You know,

574
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<v Speaker 2>particularly in in in a root vegetable like a carrot,

575
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<v Speaker 2>which I assume they simply pull out of the ground,

576
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 2>wash and ship them off. How does that get started?

577
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean there are so many different ways. Right

578
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 5>When when we talk about a vegetable like this that

579
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 5>is grown in the soil, the soil itself can become contaminated.

580
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 5>So E Coli lives in the gut of humans and animals,

581
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 5>and so if the soil gets contaminated with water runoff

582
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>that has animals be seas in it. For example, you

583
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 5>know all of the parents could be contaminated. It can

584
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<v Speaker 5>also happen at any stage along the distribution and you

585
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 5>know the packaging and and and distribution chain, and you know,

586
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 5>a small contamination can really affect a large number of items.

587
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<v Speaker 2>Now do we do they feel at this point they

588
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 2>have some idea of the extent or is this something

589
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to have to watch now for a

590
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks because more than there may be more

591
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>people impacted. Are they able to are they able to

592
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<v Speaker 2>tell when when there is an outbreak, how how many

593
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<v Speaker 2>people report it, say in the first few days, which

594
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>will give them an idea about with this out with

595
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>this outbreak will ultimately end up? Or is it just

596
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>they got to wait and see when the when the

597
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>infections come in.

598
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you know, it is a testament to

599
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 5>our food borne illness surveillance system that we even know

600
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<v Speaker 5>that this is all coming from a carrots. You know,

601
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 5>that's pretty amazing if you think about it, because people

602
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 5>are coming into urging cares and doctor's offices and hospitals

603
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 5>with GI symptoms. All the time, and in this case,

604
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 5>somebody you know, started to put two and two together

605
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 5>and say, I think we might have a common source here,

606
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 5>and they do this case control studies, what did people

607
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 5>eat who are sick? What did people eat who aren't sick,

608
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 5>and they realized that carrots were implicated. They're looking at

609
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 5>carrots back to expiration dates of or fell by dates

610
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 5>of September, you know. So this may have been going

611
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<v Speaker 5>on for quite some time, but the key is now

612
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<v Speaker 5>that all of the different brands that received carrots from

613
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<v Speaker 5>the same you know company that grew them, they've been identified.

614
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<v Speaker 5>And now those carrots are being pulled off of the

615
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<v Speaker 5>shelves supermarkets, restaurants know not to use them anymore. People

616
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<v Speaker 5>are being told to pick them out of their freezers

617
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<v Speaker 5>and throw them out. Clean, clean your refrigerator, freezer where

618
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 5>those carrots were, and that should lead to the end

619
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<v Speaker 5>of the outbreak.

620
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if if we can't be you know, prospective perspective,

621
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<v Speaker 2>can we be retrospective. You said that some of these

622
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>carrots were sell by dates in September. It's November, So

623
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<v Speaker 2>did people lead these in the refrigerator or buy them,

624
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, in early September and they just started to

625
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>eat them sometime.

626
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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's probably probably, Yeah, we probably missed a

627
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 5>lot of cases. And that's normal with an outbreak like this,

628
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<v Speaker 5>because most people are going to have relatively mild infection

629
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<v Speaker 5>and they're never even going to be tested for E. Coli.

630
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<v Speaker 4>They're going to.

631
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<v Speaker 5>Stay home feeling miserable for a few days and get better.

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<v Speaker 5>And so it's only those really severe cases that even

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<v Speaker 5>get tested and then and so it can take weeks

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<v Speaker 5>to months to even notice that there's a contamination issue.

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<v Speaker 2>In it, Okay, And so that's that's where you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cross reference and figure the commonality of a potential source. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking people, what did you have in the last three,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five days. I assume that's I'm not a scientist,

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<v Speaker 2>but I assume that's what that's. And they plot, plot

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<v Speaker 2>and shot that in a an ex axis and a

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<v Speaker 2>y access and all of a sudden they say, Okay,

642
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<v Speaker 2>here's here's what we have. Thankfully, this these sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>outbreaks are not common. How fortunate are we in America

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<v Speaker 2>compared to other countries? Do we just have a better

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<v Speaker 2>reporting system and so therefore we know about them? And

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<v Speaker 2>other countries, this stuff is going on more because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a reporting system.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's right. It's two things. We have a great

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<v Speaker 5>reporting system. So this particular kind of ecoli, when somebody

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<v Speaker 5>in a doctor's office or a hospital test positive, the

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<v Speaker 5>lab is required to notify the Public House Department, and

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<v Speaker 5>so our public health department has these lab results coming

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<v Speaker 5>in all the time, and then they can contact the

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<v Speaker 5>people who have those infections and get on top of

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<v Speaker 5>it very quickly. So that's our surveillance system that helps

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<v Speaker 5>us get on top of outbreaks and stop them so

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<v Speaker 5>that they don't keep going. On the other side of things,

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<v Speaker 5>we do have very clean water here in the United

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<v Speaker 5>States compared to many countries. We have water that is

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<v Speaker 5>tested regularly and is generally not contaminated with fecal bacteria

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<v Speaker 5>like E. Coli. And so, you know, both of those

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<v Speaker 5>things make it so that that these types of outbreaks

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<v Speaker 5>are uncommon and that they're squelched quickly when they do stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you, it's it's scary to think that

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<v Speaker 2>just by eating you know, you think about organic anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you pay a little more in the supermarket, but you

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<v Speaker 2>just had that confidence factor that well, this I know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's organic is going to be completely safe. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we find out in this case this is not

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<v Speaker 2>just regular carrots, it's organic carrots. So a word to

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<v Speaker 2>the a word to the wise. And there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>they when they ingested these carrots that these people would

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<v Speaker 2>have known there wouldn't have a weird smell, any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a mold, or no physical presentation that maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>retrospect people saying, why did I eat that carrot? I

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<v Speaker 2>know it was midnight and I was hungry, and it

677
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<v Speaker 2>didn't taste right, none of that right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good point. You know, my husband's always smelling

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<v Speaker 5>the food and then eating it, but in reality you

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<v Speaker 5>cannot tell based on look, texture or smell when something

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<v Speaker 5>is contaminated with these types of bacteria. The symptoms starts

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<v Speaker 5>re afforded after eating it too. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>times people will say assume that it's the last thing

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<v Speaker 5>they ate or the thing they ate last night, when

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<v Speaker 5>in fact you have to go back days to try

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out what it was that made you sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Like to Sira Jerome, thank you so much. The

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Infection Control Officer for Tough Medicine and Hospital epidemiologists

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<v Speaker 2>that Toughts Medical Center always enjoy revenue on It's been

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<v Speaker 2>too long since we last talked. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for your time tonight, and thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You for much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you so much. We'll talk again. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>when we get back. We're going to talk about another

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<v Speaker 2>type of doctor. This is a neurologist. This doctor is

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<v Speaker 2>an expert in memory loss. Now again, memory loss can

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<v Speaker 2>be for young or old. Doctor Andrew Budson at Boston University,

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<v Speaker 2>neurologist with all sorts of information on memory issues, this

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<v Speaker 2>is one you want to pay attention to closely, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>your age back on night side after this