Speaker 1: I was and eight.
Speaker 2: We were primarily private. I mean, it was the day's
Speaker 2: of Milk and Honey brother. Everybody had new toys. Money
Speaker 2: was flown in and it hit and we had to
Speaker 2: slim down and then retool and retooled with still the
Speaker 2: private construction side of it, but a lot towards building.
Speaker 1: Infrastructure government work.
Speaker 2: And we have brought on a whole new company that
Speaker 2: does nothing. It's called Pipelines and the only thing that
Speaker 2: company does is it works on PGENI pipelines throughout the state.
Speaker 2: And then we have another one that we've just formed
Speaker 2: that's going to be basically up in the Sierra Nevadas.
Speaker 2: The contracts to bury the power lines into the ground.
Speaker 1: Which is just, oh my god.
Speaker 2: If you know what the Serra, the Serra Nevada is
Speaker 2: nothing but a giant piece of fucking granted.
Speaker 1: Okay, chuck's there, Okay, chucking.
Speaker 3: Hear me, Hey, are you recording yet or what?
Speaker 1: No, man, we're not live yet. We've got got minute
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Cool, So pretty much what I'm gonna do is uh
Speaker 1: be Pete.
Speaker 3: With his face on the screen. I'm shocked, man.
Speaker 1: I was too. Man, it's the first time I've actually
Speaker 1: seen this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, maybe I should look at it. Oh
Speaker 3: you got a shirt? Oh man, me, I'm left out here.
Speaker 2: It's all good man, it's all good. So we've got
Speaker 2: a minute and fifteen minutes to go live. So how
Speaker 2: I do it is I've got my opening, so I
Speaker 2: can we set it right now? My little opening thing
Speaker 2: I'm going to go through. I've got my monologue. Then
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my begathon and then introduce you guys,
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 1: We'll start the show.
Speaker 2: And when I started, if you can put the mics
Speaker 2: on mute until I introduce you, of course it would
Speaker 2: be like like.
Speaker 1: Super super duper.
Speaker 2: We got another We've got forty five seconds, so we've
Speaker 2: got plenty of time.
Speaker 3: Then all right, gotch So we just mute until you're
Speaker 3: done with your business and then you'll introduce us and
Speaker 3: we'll talk.
Speaker 2: All right, cool, and I want to talk at start
Speaker 2: it off with the JFK RFK all those files.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to hook the camera, by the way,
Speaker 3: even though it's probably not advisable, I'm going to do
Speaker 3: it anyway.
Speaker 2: If you want, you don't need to come on air, Chuck,
Speaker 2: your voice is your voice. Everybody will know you from
Speaker 2: your voice, probably more people than your face.
Speaker 1: So let me see what we got here.
Speaker 2: Okay, about fifteen seconds, So if y'all can go on,
Speaker 2: mute five four three two one.
Speaker 4: Real conversation. Get that into think to the third rail.
Speaker 2: What a year twenty twenty five has been, and it's
Speaker 2: just getting started.
Speaker 1: We've seen UAPs over the nation.
Speaker 2: Southern California is on fire, Florida is getting snow, and
Speaker 2: we just got a new leader, President Trump. In the
Speaker 2: last week since he was inaugurated, the Mexican border is
Speaker 2: closed and mass bird deportations have begun. The victims of
Speaker 2: Helene and FEMA, Yeah I said it, FEMA are starting
Speaker 2: to get the help they so desperately need from the
Speaker 2: Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild their roads and bridges.
Speaker 2: Trump has signed so many executive orders that it's hard
Speaker 2: to keep track. One that is a particular interest of
Speaker 2: mine and of my guest, the release of the JFK
Speaker 2: RFK assassination file. With me, Will Trump do it or
Speaker 2: really do a limited release like he did the last
Speaker 2: go around. If so, and he keeps his word, what
Speaker 2: will be found The CIA killing JFK is old news.
Speaker 1: So where they really heightened.
Speaker 2: Tonight, my guests and I will go deep into the
Speaker 2: rabbit hole on who killed Who, and I'm sure a
Speaker 2: whole lot of more funky, strange topics. I'd like to
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the show started.
Speaker 2: The reason I'm here tonight is largely due to one
Speaker 2: of my guests years ago. On Christmas Nights of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I called into a podcast I've been listening to for
Speaker 2: a long time, The O'Kell Effect.
Speaker 1: The host and I hit it often.
Speaker 2: Soon after that call, I became his producer and was
Speaker 2: so for many years. If it was not for him,
Speaker 2: probably would have dumped a whole lot of money into
Speaker 2: an unused studio. My other guest, who I met around
Speaker 2: that timeframe, is the co host of The O'Kelly Effects
Speaker 2: Friday night calling show and is the original origin nator
Speaker 2: excuse me of naked news pretty much stories about naked
Speaker 2: tweakers getting busted do it outrageous tweaker stuff, fun times. So,
Speaker 2: without a further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to
Speaker 2: the Third Rail Chuck O'Kelly and b Pete.
Speaker 1: How y'all doing out there, gentlemen?
Speaker 3: You know doing good. I'm glad that I was able
Speaker 3: to bring Bet Pete this time, because you know, he
Speaker 3: has been in such a solid piece of the show
Speaker 3: for many years now. Not there since the beginning necessarily,
Speaker 3: but who could have been at this point. You know,
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for like twelve years now. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's it's getting it's getting a little tiresome that that
Speaker 3: we still have to battle things. But b Pete and
Speaker 3: I share an interest in the JFK stuff. In fact,
Speaker 3: we went to Lancer together a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And this is how I know he's my friend. He
Speaker 3: didn't ditch me in some mud hole in Louisiana, which
Speaker 3: he could have because the blind guy can't drive. He
Speaker 3: was doing the driving to get us there to Texas. Baby,
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm so happy that that I actually have
Speaker 3: a friend. You might not think so when you listen
Speaker 3: to the show. Sometimes because we are at odds, we
Speaker 3: are sometimes even at each other's throats for a minute
Speaker 3: or two verbally, of course, you know, but still it's
Speaker 3: it's a great thing and open debate. I don't try
Speaker 3: to shut the man down, uh, you know, I try
Speaker 3: to keep things moving along. But you know what, whatever
Speaker 3: he's got to say, I want to hear it because
Speaker 3: he's got a perspective that is different than mine, and hello,
Speaker 3: welcome to the idea of what it is I do.
Speaker 3: Nobody has my perspective. That's the weird thing. And I'm
Speaker 3: very proud of you, by the way, Dave, because you
Speaker 3: have grown as a presenter, and this is what you
Speaker 3: needed to do. You wanted to be in support roles,
Speaker 3: you wanted to back people up, you wanted to help
Speaker 3: get good information out, and I said, listen to that voice.
Speaker 3: You need to do this your damn self. You know,
Speaker 3: at a certain point I was happy to have you along,
Speaker 3: but I'm much happier seeing you do your own thing,
Speaker 3: third Rail, naughty by Nature, whatever it is you want
Speaker 3: to call it. You'll probably give it a couple more
Speaker 3: names before you're done with it. But it's interesting because
Speaker 3: you're one of the very few people out there on
Speaker 3: these video channels that actually does something that I don't know,
Speaker 3: produces a little original thought now and then other people
Speaker 3: seem to be followers. You got your own ideas about
Speaker 3: what you want to do, and I am damn happy
Speaker 3: to see you doing them. So without me talking anymore,
Speaker 3: I do want to let be Pete talk to people
Speaker 3: because I think this is the first time you a
Speaker 3: guest on somebody else's podcast, right, be Beete.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the first time, and I feel kind
Speaker 5: of honored that it's it's a naughty boy that invited us,
Speaker 5: you know, getting back together.
Speaker 6: It's fun. I think that Christmas show where we doing
Speaker 6: Christmas trivia that night.
Speaker 1: God, I don't remember, you know, so many years ago that.
Speaker 3: And every time we do a show, we start out
Speaker 3: with one idea and it goes somewhere else, you know,
Speaker 3: because the callers that night.
Speaker 6: That was the first year. That's when I started doing
Speaker 6: this with Chuck. We started out on Wednesday nights and
Speaker 6: then we went to Friday nights. And maybe I remember
Speaker 6: one show we were doing Christmas trivia and that would
Speaker 6: have been my first Christmas that we were doing anything.
Speaker 6: So maybe that's it. But it's unique being on Chuck's show.
Speaker 6: I got to do that because there's a lot, you know,
Speaker 6: with the people that call in, you get a varied
Speaker 6: amount of views on different topics. But and Chuck's right,
Speaker 6: I mean sometimes we go at it and it's with Chuck.
Speaker 6: It's like trying to nail him on a point. It's
Speaker 6: like trying to nail Jello is just the minute you
Speaker 6: think you've got him figured out this way, he comes
Speaker 6: up with something else and it just throws the whole
Speaker 6: thing off. But some of the best conversations we've had
Speaker 6: are just talking about nonsense. You brought up naked news.
Speaker 6: That was kind of a flu it was. I had this, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I have this theory that whenever something weird is going on,
Speaker 6: if you trace it back far enough, you're going to
Speaker 6: find a connection to the state I live in. So
Speaker 6: that was an item that came up. Of the famous
Speaker 6: naked home invader I guess you'd call him, got caught
Speaker 6: on a ring camera at a camper trying to steal
Speaker 6: a car, and he ended up running away, ended up
Speaker 6: swimming the French Broad River naked, and they eventually caught
Speaker 6: him a few days later. But I always for years
Speaker 6: wondered why was he naked in the first place. We
Speaker 6: found out while somebody got a hold of Chuck through
Speaker 6: an email so that they had been listening to the
Speaker 6: show and knew the guy that was the naked home invader.
Speaker 1: Really, so what was his excuse? He was just all
Speaker 1: whacked out there.
Speaker 6: Well, let's just say there was a transaction taking place
Speaker 6: that went bad. The guy hit him with bare spray.
Speaker 6: He strips off everything, and he was trying to get
Speaker 6: to water that he could wash this stuff off, and
Speaker 6: he scared some lady in her camper trying to break in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember in the story on the river, Yeah,
Speaker 3: remembering the story, at some point he goes for a swim.
Speaker 3: There's a whole thing to this. It's not just the
Speaker 3: guy's naked trying to you know, carjack somebody or knocking
Speaker 3: on doors. But at some point he goes for a swim,
Speaker 3: and I'm going, what the hell's he going for a
Speaker 3: swim for? Well, it all got explained, is Vpte's explaining
Speaker 3: now right. It was beautiful And again it was a
Speaker 3: random occurrence. And I love this because during that same
Speaker 3: week when vpte this guy to my attention, I saw
Speaker 3: a clip on the internet and I'll shut up after
Speaker 3: this and let him continue telling the story. But just coincidentally,
Speaker 3: I saw a clip on the internet of a guy
Speaker 3: who stole like one of those four wheeler things, you know,
Speaker 3: for going off road. What do they call him ATVs
Speaker 3: or whatever?
Speaker 1: Right side by sides. There's ATVs just sit on the
Speaker 1: side by sides Okay, well.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not listen. I've lived in the South
Speaker 3: for a decade, but I'm not read neck enough to
Speaker 3: know it all. So here we go. It is what
Speaker 3: it is. And this guy was on this thing going
Speaker 3: down a highway like speeding ahead of cars on one
Speaker 3: of those butt naked and giving the finger to people
Speaker 3: who were filming them. And I thought it was great
Speaker 3: because the cops captured him later and it was like,
Speaker 3: I want to know the story of how this guy
Speaker 3: ends up. I mean, he didn't get out of bed
Speaker 3: and go, okay, I'm gonna strip off my clothes, get
Speaker 3: on my side by side and go running down the freeway.
Speaker 6: Did he?
Speaker 3: I mean because maybe, But you know, look I like
Speaker 3: to sleep it sometimes too. But if I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: out and commit a crime, steal a bike something, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna go out naked. I'm gonna get dressed first,
Speaker 3: you know. So I want to know the story how
Speaker 3: did this end up happening? And it just so happened.
Speaker 3: I was jarred by that. And then this story came
Speaker 3: up and I went and now, wait a minute, I
Speaker 3: got one guy in one place was on a side
Speaker 3: by side button naked. We got another guy trying to
Speaker 3: carjack people and banging on trailers. He's button naked. I
Speaker 3: see a trend, and so this is how it started.
Speaker 3: And then of course nature Boy was part of that
Speaker 3: for a long time, calling into the show and bringing
Speaker 3: us brand new, naked new stuff every week, it seemed like.
Speaker 2: So for a while, it was so easy all to
Speaker 2: have to dudes going to Google right and put like
Speaker 2: naked News methanphetamine or Naked Crime methanphetamine, and they would just.
Speaker 1: Pop up, and I'm like, okay, I'll take three of
Speaker 1: these articles.
Speaker 2: I got ten, right, take three of them, and then
Speaker 2: I would have y'all just decide which one you wanted
Speaker 2: to do, and then you would pick the one.
Speaker 1: I would read it and y'all would comment on it.
Speaker 2: And some of this stuff, Remember that one in Florida,
Speaker 2: because I actually would. I would also add Florida to it.
Speaker 2: That's that's where the best ones come from, straight up,
Speaker 2: Like that one that one tweaker bitch that was swimming
Speaker 2: out in the canal, swam into a culvert, got lost
Speaker 2: and was walking. It was in that culverts the sewer
Speaker 2: system for like two days before they drug her out
Speaker 2: of manhole cover, right, just like, oh, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: never underestimate the stupidity of the human mind, especially when
Speaker 2: you get them on a lot of dope.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you get naked alligator wrestling. I remember Naked
Speaker 3: home Invasion. I mean, there were unique qualities to these
Speaker 3: stories which we tried to not bore.
Speaker 1: Anybody with it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: The one I remember is the with the guy that
Speaker 6: was like six foot or something walking down the street
Speaker 6: naked and it was snowing or sleeping outside, and the
Speaker 6: cops pulled up and I thought, you know, somebody that
Speaker 6: big coming at me naked in the middle of the snowstorm.
Speaker 6: I'm getting back in the car. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of that clip in the Schwarzenegger one
Speaker 3: of the Terminator movies where he walks into the bar naked,
Speaker 3: you know. And the thing that about it is not
Speaker 3: that he's naked that's so great. It's that the bikers
Speaker 3: turn around and nobody goes, wow that we maybe should
Speaker 3: get away from the naked crazy man who just walked
Speaker 3: in the bar. Nobody does that. One guy tries to
Speaker 3: put his cigar out on his chest. You know, he's
Speaker 3: aw on he's the Terminator. But but nobody knows that yet.
Speaker 3: He's just a big, huge, muscular naked guy who walked
Speaker 3: into a biker bar. I always love that scene and
Speaker 3: Terminator because it's like, this is one of the most
Speaker 3: non I could deal with time travel, the cyborg you know,
Speaker 3: all this stuff. Skynet is actually probably real by now.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I could deal with all the fantasy. But
Speaker 3: how the hell do you tell me? Nobody ran away,
Speaker 3: not even the waitresses when they saw it. Naked muscle
Speaker 3: bound guy walk into a bar and go give me
Speaker 3: your clothes and boots. You know, even worse than one
Speaker 3: of the later sequels. He goes in on strip club
Speaker 3: night and the guy goes talk to the hand. I
Speaker 3: love those Terminator movies. They're great comedies. Sorry, but I
Speaker 3: mean real world we have people that are like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna carjack somebody with no clothes on. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna break into a house.
Speaker 6: So is if a naked person comes up to commit
Speaker 6: a crime, it's easier to tell if they have a weapon,
Speaker 6: it is going to be in their hands.
Speaker 2: According to the Freak on the Olympics, the Smurf, the
Speaker 2: training Smurf, he said, you could put one up your ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no in the lyrics, that's what he said in French.
Speaker 2: I saw the translations, and when I saw that, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: Shit, well I think I think we even had a
Speaker 3: story at one point where suddenly there was a weapon
Speaker 3: where before there was no weapon, and we were trying
Speaker 3: to determine where the weapon came from, because if the
Speaker 3: person's butt naked and nobody saw the weapon and it
Speaker 3: at this point he's using two hands to do something.
Speaker 3: You know, we were breaking these things down, honestly, intellectually
Speaker 3: going okay, now, how does this occur that he had
Speaker 3: no weapon? Now he's got a weapon. Where did the
Speaker 3: we come from? If he's naked, you gotta ask? And look,
Speaker 3: you know, some of us have one or two wallets
Speaker 3: there on the body. I guess that you can keep
Speaker 3: some things. A weapon of unknown origin, a weapon of
Speaker 3: unknown origin. Not Ben anyway, I love this, but this
Speaker 3: is just one of the aspects. I mean, we do
Speaker 3: serious stuff. We talk about the topics of the day.
Speaker 3: It's driven by the callers on Friday night, which you know,
Speaker 3: quite honestly, I wish we got more callers and we
Speaker 3: can move things along even faster and bring about you know,
Speaker 3: more topics at rapid pace because right now we're actually
Speaker 3: in our time slot that we would normally be broadcasting.
Speaker 2: That's with you guys came on that you gave up
Speaker 2: your normal time time slots to come on here.
Speaker 3: Well, I absolutely had to because I said to myself, look,
Speaker 3: this is an opportunity to get the three of us
Speaker 3: back together. Get Bpete on a show with a guy
Speaker 3: he knows already. Uh, you know, one of the best,
Speaker 3: and you have one of the best performance voices, by
Speaker 3: the way, in indie media period.
Speaker 2: It's my blessing, Chuck, but it's also my fucking curse.
Speaker 3: Well, and I love you because you've contributed. People can
Speaker 3: still hear you giving the station id at Ocelli dot
Speaker 3: com radio because it is the most perfect reading. And
Speaker 3: he is the guy if you don't recognize it, and
Speaker 3: I'm going to repost this to the audio version of it,
Speaker 3: if you don't recognize him, he's the guy who goes.
Speaker 1: Oh Chili dot com.
Speaker 3: Except I can't do it as well as him, obviously,
Speaker 3: what's why I had him to it. Uh. But it's
Speaker 3: been a blessing to be part of your journey and
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing where you go. Uh, quite honestly,
Speaker 3: But I know you have other topics in mind besides
Speaker 3: naked news. You want to get to something that is
Speaker 3: current on your agenda as well. So, my friend, I
Speaker 3: don't want to hijack your show. Please and bep my show.
Speaker 1: It's my show. I can cut your eye off anytime
Speaker 1: I want. Remember I'm the producer. Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, side note, a couple
Speaker 2: of Saturday Night anarchies. The last was it last Saturday
Speaker 2: Night anarchy? Some cat named Brad called in. We call
Speaker 2: him the Christmas Nazi, right Christmas Night?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you got to see it.
Speaker 2: Literally, he's he looks like Central Casting bro.
Speaker 1: He has the press shirt, he has the tie.
Speaker 2: You know, he has a shaved head, and right behind
Speaker 2: him there's this big fucking Nazi Schwastika flag.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He's actually cool, dude, He's a good sport. The first
Speaker 2: time he came on a couple of weeks ago, right,
Speaker 2: I just I just asked him real questions and he
Speaker 2: answered him to the best of his ability. He didn't
Speaker 2: take a fence and actually had a good time. It
Speaker 2: was kind of like going to a rave with a
Speaker 2: bunch of freaks, right, and you eat a bunch of mushrooms,
Speaker 2: eat a bunch of ecstasy, and you dance all night music. Okay,
Speaker 2: have a great fucking time, sober up when the sun
Speaker 2: comes up, take off. It's one of those things that's
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did. I had a fun time, but
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to do it again. Right,
Speaker 2: That's kind of how Brad was. So why did I
Speaker 2: bring up Brad the Christmas Nazi? Oh jeez, man, I
Speaker 2: hate want to go off on these tangents and I
Speaker 2: can't get back to what my original thing was.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, this is it. Ray.
Speaker 2: Ray's really starting to come on his own as being
Speaker 2: a producer. Anybody out there listening, Let me do a
Speaker 2: side note. Ray from Australia, who was also one of
Speaker 2: Chuck's producers. He produced the Rumble Channel and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Finn he's been involved with. He's known Chuck for years.
Speaker 3: He's actually part of a running project right now which
Speaker 3: is going to be a very big release at some
Speaker 3: point when we get all the stuff together. And again,
Speaker 3: Ray's another guy came along just sort of as a
Speaker 3: fan of mine and of Aaron's because Aaron Franz is
Speaker 3: also on the network, and he just really enjoyed our
Speaker 3: shows and said, look, I want to do some video work.
Speaker 3: And I said, well, I got video for you. You know,
Speaker 3: if you want to do it, I got it for you.
Speaker 3: I got no pay, but I got video work for you,
Speaker 3: you know. And so he's doing it, and it's going
Speaker 3: to be wild when the guy that I always referred
Speaker 3: to is right from down under. Actually, I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to seeing what he puts out eventually on his own. Anyway,
Speaker 3: please go ahead, I just want to shout out to him. Yeah, good, No,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: Wanted to get a shout out too, because he's becoming
Speaker 2: quite the producer.
Speaker 1: So but this is what I want to talk about. Orders.
Speaker 1: Jesus Okay.
Speaker 2: Is just whipping out these executive orders, some of them
Speaker 2: I agree with. I'm like, wow, the loose bags actually
Speaker 2: doing something good. But it's the old NAT and switch,
Speaker 2: you know, throw a few bones to his crew and
Speaker 2: then American people and they think.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look he's doing this.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile he does a who bunch of stuff over there,
Speaker 2: different story to control. But one of the things I
Speaker 2: could commend him on if he follows through is the
Speaker 2: release of the JFK, the what forty three hundred documents
Speaker 2: all of the files for the JFK, RFK and Milk assassinations. Now,
Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to bring you two on here,
Speaker 2: because when it comes down to JFK, I don't know
Speaker 2: anybody who knows more than y'all do so, and I
Speaker 2: don't even know where to start with this subject because.
Speaker 1: It's so fucking vast. So what I'm going to do?
Speaker 6: We talked about that last week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did talk about it last week, but we
Speaker 3: talked about it in a theoretical sense. So, you know what,
Speaker 3: I guarantee that BP can lead this off, and I
Speaker 3: can back him up on this because I know he's
Speaker 3: probably paid attention to it to you know, varying degrees.
Speaker 3: We do pay attention to these things, both of us.
Speaker 3: I know, because we both have an extremely keen interest
Speaker 3: in the Kennedy assassination. Now that doesn't mean that him
Speaker 3: and I absolutely agree on all things, but we are
Speaker 3: closely related to each other when it comes to being
Speaker 3: very serious about analyzing things and and being methodical, scientific
Speaker 3: in some cases, and much more logical than a lot
Speaker 3: of other people are. So I know B Pete has
Speaker 3: an initial reaction to this, and I'd love to get
Speaker 3: his take, which, by the way, unrehearsed. I haven't even
Speaker 3: discussed it with him since last week when it was
Speaker 3: a theoretical situation. So unless you want to talk about
Speaker 3: the executive I mean, if you don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about the executive order itself, be pete. I'll take that
Speaker 3: and hand it back to you, or you can just
Speaker 3: start out and then I'd like to come along and
Speaker 3: help out towards the bottom part of the discussion.
Speaker 6: Well, I haven't I haven't read the executive order, you know,
Speaker 6: the complete description of what he says, or if he
Speaker 6: generally just says, release the files. But what I'm curious
Speaker 6: to be is, are we eventually going to see one
Speaker 6: Oswald's tax records to see how badly they've been doctored?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Two, any photographic evidence, including the Gail's film. Is this
Speaker 6: going to be the thing that kicks out Gail Mix's
Speaker 6: copy of her dad's or was her dad's film.
Speaker 3: Her grandfather's actually? But yeah, go ahead, But are we going.
Speaker 6: To see that pop up?
Speaker 2: OHB for clarification for me and probably I'm sure people.
Speaker 1: In the audience.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that name that you mentioned, and you
Speaker 2: said there was a film, and I'm familiar with the
Speaker 2: Zabruder film.
Speaker 1: Everybody is yeah.
Speaker 3: Let me let me assist here, Dave, if you don't mind.
Speaker 3: Because the Knicks film is shot from the opposite side
Speaker 3: of the street as the Zubruder film. It is one
Speaker 3: of the famous images that has been utilized in documentaries,
Speaker 3: has been seen by anybody who is basically generally interested
Speaker 3: in the case at some point or another. If you
Speaker 3: watch the TV show where they showed you footage and
Speaker 3: you saw it from the opposite side of the street,
Speaker 3: the car and the time of the shooting, that means
Speaker 3: you ninety percent are likely to have seen a version
Speaker 3: of the Knicks film. But the original film itself, along
Speaker 3: with the much more film, which is also shot from
Speaker 3: the same side of the street as the Knixt film,
Speaker 3: but as of a lower quality, the originals have disappeared
Speaker 3: and that is not disputable. Nobody claims to have their
Speaker 3: hands on them. The US government, in a recent ruling
Speaker 3: has been told and Gail Nick Jackson has been on
Speaker 3: a quest to get her grandfather's film back in the
Speaker 3: possession of the family now for something like thirty years
Speaker 3: or forty years, and finally in a court just recently,
Speaker 3: the government was ruled to have to come up with
Speaker 3: something regarding this because they have basically claimed we don't
Speaker 3: have it, and the judge did not accept this and
Speaker 3: basically have said you're going to have to produce something
Speaker 3: or you're going to have to compensate her. Now that's
Speaker 3: where we're at on the k go ahead.
Speaker 6: The big key on that hearing was is that the
Speaker 6: judge basically said, you know, the government had it, they
Speaker 6: did things with it. It was supposed to be returned.
Speaker 6: Now you're telling me you don't have it, right jail
Speaker 6: Jackson Nicks was suing the government, but it had to
Speaker 6: pass this test for the case to go forward. Judge
Speaker 6: is the one that allowed it to go to the
Speaker 6: actual trial part. So now we're going to see what
Speaker 6: comes out of it. But she's been waiting a long
Speaker 6: long time and it's been a very frustrating battle for them,
Speaker 6: and now she's been determined she has the right to
Speaker 6: sue the government for it.
Speaker 3: Well, she always had the right to sue the government,
Speaker 3: but the government had put in a motion which could
Speaker 3: have put a stop to the whole case, which basically said, look,
Speaker 3: you have to dismiss this because we don't have possession
Speaker 3: of it, and therefore it's not our problem.
Speaker 6: Basically, Judge says, John, y'all, you had it, come up
Speaker 6: with it, or find out where it went.
Speaker 3: That's it. Because at some point, you see, they were
Speaker 3: saying there's no proof it was ever in our possession.
Speaker 3: Gaile's lawyers spent the decades and various lawyers, but she
Speaker 3: got success with this. Most recent lawyer spent decades tracking
Speaker 3: down did the government actually have possession of a film? Now, understand,
Speaker 3: this is a film that's only, like you know, in reality,
Speaker 3: a minute long. Okay, this film is like a minute long.
Speaker 3: That's it. So a minute long piece of old film
Speaker 3: footage that does contain evidence, and the original version of
Speaker 3: it might be something that could be developed properly and
Speaker 3: reveal brand new things that these various copies that have
Speaker 3: floated around have not revealed. Regarding the moment of the shooting,
Speaker 3: I mean, you literally have a motion picture case here.
Speaker 3: I'm pointing out the importance of Gail's case and also
Speaker 3: telling you that that's part of a process. But that process,
Speaker 3: as it relates to this situation is a little bit
Speaker 3: murky because if indeed you're talking about an assassination record,
Speaker 3: which is in the hands of the federal government, as
Speaker 3: the Trump Executive Order recognized, although they albeit vaguely, there
Speaker 3: is a law in place here that says you're supposed
Speaker 3: to turn over all records that are relevant and that
Speaker 3: are not dangerous to our national security, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It's a very long, convoluted language, very boring to read
Speaker 3: the executive order even but it is a general recognition
Speaker 3: that the government did not follow through on its required
Speaker 3: operations that should have occurred in the nineteen nineties, and
Speaker 3: even with the allowable delays that gave them twenty five years,
Speaker 3: which brought us to that twenty seventeen point where in
Speaker 3: all honesty, the Trump administration even acknowledges in the executive
Speaker 3: Order that they sided with the intelligence agencies at that
Speaker 3: time to not release all of these things. But these
Speaker 3: things were prepared the nineteen nineties, and here is the
Speaker 3: first misnomer that is out there in the public. The
Speaker 3: idea that all the files will be released because of
Speaker 3: this is not baked into the executive order. That is
Speaker 3: a distraction for all of us. It's meant to get
Speaker 3: us a lot more hopeful about something that is not
Speaker 3: mechanically in place here. Okay, he's asking for a certain
Speaker 3: set of documents that was already examined analyzed in the
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties, was re examined allegedly in the two thousands,
Speaker 3: even though he did not force the government agencies. He
Speaker 3: says in there that the government agencies were supposed to
Speaker 3: reevaluate all these documents and decide once again if they
Speaker 3: were vital to national security. But there is no evidence
Speaker 3: that the Trump administration did it. Now, before somebody says, oh,
Speaker 3: you're picking on Trump, hold on, because Trump kicked the
Speaker 3: can down the road in twenty seventeen. The Biden administration
Speaker 3: tried to take the can off the road in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, okay, and they picked it up where they
Speaker 3: were supposed to left there for them by the Trump administration,
Speaker 3: and again concurred with the intelligence agencies. Now you don't
Speaker 3: need to really release these things, and yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: In the executive order, does he say that he declassifies
Speaker 6: these files, because that's something I've heard. I've heard that
Speaker 6: the Kennedy family is kind of ticked off that he's
Speaker 6: going to be doing this. Of course, you know, I
Speaker 6: really this was a this was a homicide in Dallas,
Speaker 6: and I don't know how much they had sway up
Speaker 6: till now keeping these things locked up. Did he actually
Speaker 6: say in the executive Order that he declassifies these files,
Speaker 6: because that's where the hang up is going to be.
Speaker 6: You're going to have these agencies saying, ah, this is
Speaker 6: a threat to national security. We have to keep this confidential,
Speaker 6: we have to keep this top secret, whatever the classification is.
Speaker 6: Did he make that statement in the executive Order that
Speaker 6: they were declassified?
Speaker 3: Well, this was written by somebody who actually, you know,
Speaker 3: is going along with the law here. So what he
Speaker 3: says is I have deemed now that these things and
Speaker 3: it was under the control of the president to say, no,
Speaker 3: there's no reason to keep these things classified. Okay, he
Speaker 3: could have done that, but he bent to the intelligence agencies,
Speaker 3: and like I said, even recognizes it, or the author
Speaker 3: of this executive order recognizes that. But here's the deal.
Speaker 3: It's not about I'm declassifying. It's about finish the job
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be done through the ARRB. Essentially
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing here, but he's basically saying at that time
Speaker 3: I agreed with you. I no longer agree with you.
Speaker 3: So now it's time for you to finish that job. See,
Speaker 3: this is the separation there there are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm wondering if that if somebody, if an agency says,
Speaker 6: well we've got these files, but we're not going to
Speaker 6: release them because they are quote a threat to national security.
Speaker 6: If Trump can then come up and say I'm declas
Speaker 6: find those documents put him out there, Well he could, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, i'm it may get to that point where
Speaker 6: he's going to make a decision and then he's going
Speaker 6: to weasel r waffle again because that was his excuse
Speaker 6: during his first term, the first four years. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm deferring to these agencies and they still want to
Speaker 6: keep this, you know. Now it's either put up or
Speaker 6: shut up basically.
Speaker 3: Now from what my personal interpretation, now, this is me
Speaker 3: going out on a limb here. My personal interpretation is
Speaker 3: that no, that is not in there, like, hey, look,
Speaker 3: I'm declassifying everything. It's not him giving the full green
Speaker 3: light to everything. It is him saying let the arr
Speaker 3: B stuff go forth. But there's another curious passage in
Speaker 3: there that according to some you know, some legal people
Speaker 3: that I have consulted on this, because, believe it or not,
Speaker 3: I do that. I will go to people who are
Speaker 3: used to reading this convoluted language that you know goes back. Well,
Speaker 3: you know according to this subsection of this particular blab bla,
Speaker 3: you know that crap that my mind doesn't work like this,
Speaker 3: So I do need some other people to maybe go
Speaker 3: back over it. I'm usually correct in my initial analysis,
Speaker 3: but they always add something to it where they say, look,
Speaker 3: here's the real world practice that comes into play here.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm trying to relate here, is that
Speaker 3: we have the real world idea that the arr be
Speaker 3: stuff should now be out there. That's not the end
Speaker 3: of the story regarding stuff that needs to be classified
Speaker 3: or declassified. There are a great deal many more records
Speaker 3: that are not on a list, that have not been identified.
Speaker 3: In other words, there's still more to be done. And
Speaker 3: the law stands. So you have a law that is
Speaker 3: in place, you're supposed to give up all this stuff
Speaker 3: that's relevant to the assassination as long as it doesn't
Speaker 3: violate directly national security, and the president can overrule you
Speaker 3: on that. There's that part of it. But if that
Speaker 3: stuff wasn't collected yet or is not in a collection
Speaker 3: to be considered in the first place. This is where
Speaker 3: the beat and switch comes in. You could say that
Speaker 3: Gail Knicks Jackson's film is part of the JFK records
Speaker 3: if it's in government hands and it is a record
Speaker 3: pertaining to the assassination, it's a filmed record. That record,
Speaker 3: it's in and of itself, could now be included in
Speaker 3: the JFK collection. But being that the government is still
Speaker 3: going to fight that they don't have it, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera, and being that it has not been identified
Speaker 3: directly as an official record that's part of this collection
Speaker 3: right now, they're not forcing them to declassify that now.
Speaker 3: If they did that, then they'd have nowhere to run
Speaker 3: and nowhere to hide. Regarding releasing Gale's record, you know,
Speaker 3: releasing Gale's film, because they wouldn't have the protection of
Speaker 3: the of the state, they wouldn't have the protection of
Speaker 3: the civil courts. They'd have no choice but to turn
Speaker 3: it over or pay her one or the other, which
Speaker 3: is what that judgment basically said. But they can still
Speaker 3: hide in the national security justification right now.
Speaker 6: So what that film would be worth well.
Speaker 3: At my estimation is that. Look if the Zapruder film
Speaker 3: was worth twenty five million dollars, okay, uh, you know
Speaker 3: back in the nineties when they evaluated this, and then
Speaker 3: also they were allowed to take a copy of the
Speaker 3: film and donate it to the six four Museum as
Speaker 3: a tax write off. The Zapruder family made out like
Speaker 3: bandits by the way. They you know, after making money
Speaker 3: on that film for years and years and years, they
Speaker 3: also turn around and get a twenty five dollars million
Speaker 3: dollar balloon payment and then don't wind up paying the
Speaker 3: taxes because they donated a duplicate to to something that's
Speaker 3: part of the national park system. So boom, what can
Speaker 3: I say? Smart business here? Uh, you know, half a
Speaker 3: century later, they they probably raked in one hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars and.
Speaker 6: Either a good lawyer or a good account one of
Speaker 6: the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both right, see me and nature boy both.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna it.
Speaker 3: But anyway, this is a wild thing because okay, now
Speaker 3: you've asked that question. But here's the deal. The public
Speaker 3: face of this is a different story. The public face
Speaker 3: of this has become Trump has made this progress there
Speaker 3: is progress coming. But they've done this to us before,
Speaker 3: essentially in twenty seventeen and in twenty twenty one. Both
Speaker 3: times they basically tried to tell us, listen, we released
Speaker 3: almost everything that really matters. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: here's some stuff that contradicts the official story, but it
Speaker 3: does it badly. You know, here's half a report from
Speaker 3: a guy who says that maybe Kennedy was shot from
Speaker 3: the front, and Alex Jones ran around waving that around,
Speaker 3: and CNN ran around waving that around. Look there's this
Speaker 3: weird thing. Oh but it falls apart at the end
Speaker 3: of the page, which any idiot could figure out. It's
Speaker 3: there just to give you the hope, the glimmer, the
Speaker 3: appearance of transparency. Now here's the thing. I'm not a
Speaker 3: pro Trump guy, but I gotta always give credit where
Speaker 3: credits due, and I got to always say that, look,
Speaker 3: I'm willing to give you know, even if the guy
Speaker 3: is part of the Hateful eight, I'm willing to say
Speaker 3: when he does a good thing. What Trump has done
Speaker 3: here with his executive order, his signature on it, anyway,
Speaker 3: I doubt he authored it, but with his executive order
Speaker 3: among you know, one hundred and some odd that he
Speaker 3: threw out there right away is he's opened a door
Speaker 3: to finish the work of the ARRB. And there are
Speaker 3: other possibilities baked into this convoluted sort of You have
Speaker 3: to get to this, You have to get to that
Speaker 3: where some people are going to have to test this
Speaker 3: out in the courts. To be honest with you, so.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: When he did the old bait and Switcherooney in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: like I alluded toune my monologue, when I forgot who
Speaker 2: asked him, I think I might have been Roger Stone.
Speaker 2: He said, why didn't you release it? And he said
Speaker 2: something along the lines, and you'll know it data if
Speaker 2: the public saw what I saw.
Speaker 1: So I couldn't release something along those lines.
Speaker 2: So, according to his own words, he saw some horrific
Speaker 2: stuff in regards to information that could damage some element or.
Speaker 1: Some people within the government.
Speaker 2: You think that he's gonna pull that same thing, you know,
Speaker 2: hold the like give a good enough of the documents
Speaker 2: away to where his base is happy that the barking
Speaker 2: seals can do this to the waving fish. Meanwhile, some
Speaker 2: of the other little dark, dark secrets that still exists.
Speaker 2: Maybe what he alluded to last time he was in office,
Speaker 2: well just kind of get left on the shelf somewhere.
Speaker 3: Well, see, here is the beauty of you know, the
Speaker 3: the Trump structure, the Trump rules of the game, let's say,
Speaker 3: and that is that you always get hyperble. How many
Speaker 3: times have you heard him say, like, nobody in the
Speaker 3: world ever thought of you knew about this crap that
Speaker 3: he's talking about. We knew about it. Those of us
Speaker 3: who've actually broken things down are been resistant about certain stuff,
Speaker 3: like oh, these people they actually tried to control speech
Speaker 3: on these digital platforms like no one ever thought of before.
Speaker 3: And I go, dude, you know, before you were allegedly
Speaker 3: in politics, we were dealing with this solo.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's not like when he says something is shocking, horrific
Speaker 3: or groundbreaking that I take that seriously personally. And it's
Speaker 3: not because of an anti Trump stance. It's because he's
Speaker 3: constantly on the cell, he's constantly making sales, he's constantly
Speaker 3: pushing right, and it's like this is the greatest, this
Speaker 3: is the biggest, this is like nobody ever thought of this.
Speaker 3: He's always doing that because at some point he wants
Speaker 3: to be part of the vanguard. He wants to be
Speaker 3: part of the unique thing that got something done, that
Speaker 3: was the biggest thing and the thing that you had
Speaker 3: to pay attention to in the room. And that's just him. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's just that's actually hit one of his best skills.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a politician, so he lies a lot,
Speaker 3: but he's a politicians.
Speaker 1: Goddamn Chuck, you're one of them. God damn fucking pink
Speaker 1: coat calmedy people.
Speaker 3: Do they still use the word libtard? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but anyway or whatever, it.
Speaker 1: Is, the point is hard on top of the damn it.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 3: Word, that's right. I'm like, I'm like Trey Crowder on acid. Anyway.
Speaker 3: The thing is, this is, you know, just part of
Speaker 3: the game. This is the way he goes It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, not expecting Biden to fall half asleep while
Speaker 3: he's pardoning his own family. I mean, that's the way
Speaker 3: it is. Okay, this is the reality. And by the way,
Speaker 3: anybody who's shocked about that, shut up, because these guys
Speaker 3: now are open season. They can pardon anybody they want.
Speaker 3: Oh it doesn't matter if you pardon your own family.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you or why wouldn't your people direct you
Speaker 3: to sign a document that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Bro in that note? Right, that's from the good topic government.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting that going homeboy just busted everybody out straight
Speaker 2: the f up. Yeah, you just let the world know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all these people are criminals. But aren't pardons
Speaker 2: for people who are uh unjustly convicted and therefore reducing it?
Speaker 2: Don't they have to be committed for a crime first? Well,
Speaker 2: just not see anything that they might discover.
Speaker 6: A preemptive A preemptive pardon has never been challenged in
Speaker 6: court right last time, So it's ending on what you
Speaker 6: know comes out after them. There's the Republicans have already
Speaker 6: said they're starting another committee under the Judicial Committee, of course,
Speaker 6: So look for all these dealings, specifically because Eliz Cheney's
Speaker 6: involvement with couple of witnesses at the j six here,
Speaker 6: and so we might steal one of these presumptive pardons
Speaker 6: in court to see if few can do that.
Speaker 3: Well, And the biggest question then is going to become
Speaker 3: exactly how much of our court system is going to
Speaker 3: get clogged up with appeals now for the next decade,
Speaker 3: because that's what we're looking at here, right, So will
Speaker 3: this actually get anything done? Or are we just going
Speaker 3: to create the most massive log jam, traffic jam and
Speaker 3: history in our courts? Well, I guess stay tuned, But
Speaker 3: you know, can I find this money? Yeah? Go ahead.
Speaker 2: If that happens, what a beautiful opportunity for Altman and
Speaker 2: their new Stargate program of AI to manage that workload.
Speaker 1: Well, make sure that everything is filed in a timely manner.
Speaker 2: Nobody gets left stuck in the cell because their case
Speaker 2: didn't get reviewed because the court was just too clogged
Speaker 2: up with all sorts of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of this, David's brother, that's Look,
Speaker 3: that's the beauty of this. You know, we used to
Speaker 3: talk about nobody bothers with it anymore. But the problem
Speaker 3: reaction solution issue. Uh, you know, the the supposed you
Speaker 3: know Hegel's dialect there, which is a little bit off
Speaker 3: the way people usually talk about it. You should really
Speaker 3: read about Hegel and what he actually thought and how
Speaker 3: that really worked. But but anyway, let's just go with
Speaker 3: the generally accepted premise with the Glien dialectic. Yeah, obviously
Speaker 3: you create a problem that you've already got the solution
Speaker 3: to in your back pocket. I mean, whether you're a
Speaker 3: mob boss, you know, a big businessman, or a politician.
Speaker 3: This is how the world works, baby, I mean, it is.
Speaker 2: Focused on people might seen it really does a Galien dialectic.
Speaker 2: It works, and it's over and over and over and
Speaker 2: when you know it, I see it everywhere.
Speaker 1: You just don't know it. You don't know it's being
Speaker 1: done to you, So you just walk.
Speaker 2: Along in that little uh you know, uh covid fluoride
Speaker 2: type stupid exactly.
Speaker 3: And like I always encourage everybody to do, is dig deeper.
Speaker 3: I mean, BPT, you can see that that this all
Speaker 3: these things that are going on just start with this
Speaker 3: one hundred you know, pile of one hundred some odd
Speaker 3: executive orders right and constitutional challenges and other legal challenges
Speaker 3: that are now going to come up. Plus the ancillary
Speaker 3: stuff where somebody's going to say, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: if that's the new law, you need to look at
Speaker 3: my case again, chief, because I now don't belong in prison.
Speaker 3: I don't belong to have these funds. I need to
Speaker 3: have my money refunded from my fines, et cetera. There
Speaker 3: could be a potential avalanche of stuff that literally clogs
Speaker 3: up the entirety of the US judicial system potentially, which
Speaker 3: would be hilarious. Again, either they'll have the solution in
Speaker 3: their back pocket or the solution again is already in
Speaker 3: their back pocket, because the point of doing this is
Speaker 3: to jam up the system exactly, which is b pte.
Speaker 3: I wonder how you see? See bpt's a little more
Speaker 3: conservative than me. And also I know he thinks that
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm just crazy too, because well we know you're
Speaker 3: from crazy.
Speaker 1: That horse has been left this table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not about the left right paradigm. Sometimes
Speaker 3: sometimes it's just o'chelly crazy instead of left right paradigm. Right,
Speaker 3: But BP your more conservative view on this, I wonder
Speaker 3: what you think, because you know, there's been points in
Speaker 3: our history where the courts have been overwhelmed and they
Speaker 3: had to come up with a way to clear it
Speaker 3: out before and they did it sometimes by creating new
Speaker 3: laws and eliminating this stuff, you know, kind of going
Speaker 3: around it and eliminating it legislatively. They've done it in
Speaker 3: a way which I think is completely ridiculous procedurally, you know,
Speaker 3: where they've come up with a new statute and run
Speaker 3: with that to clear out the court.
Speaker 6: Scene in that regard is when the federal court system
Speaker 6: dumped things back on the state. So give you an example,
Speaker 6: marijuana loss, possession loss. You now, I have what is it?
Speaker 6: It's over seventeen states that have legalized recreational use of marijuana,
Speaker 6: but it's still scheduled. Is you know under the drug laws.
Speaker 3: I think we have nineteen. I think we have nineteen
Speaker 3: that are wide open. We have thirty two or something
Speaker 3: like that that you know, possessed some version of an
Speaker 3: almost open marijuana law. And then you have the rest
Speaker 3: that are still going along with the federal guidelines of
Speaker 3: keeping it as a Schedule one or two drug.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have a bunch of you know, a
Speaker 6: bunch of states have meal marijuana laws. What it's going
Speaker 6: to do is if they rescheduled it on the federal level,
Speaker 6: and eventually it gets scheduled down to nothing, it's going
Speaker 6: to fall back on the states. In a duy case,
Speaker 6: you know, it was the guy under the influence of pot,
Speaker 6: They're going to have to come up with some type
Speaker 6: of testing method. But that's what I've seen on the
Speaker 6: federal level is they're starting to kick back these things
Speaker 6: just like abortion, it wasn't called for in the constitution.
Speaker 6: Constitution says, if it's not specifically mentioned here, it's reserved
Speaker 6: to the states and the people. I think you're going
Speaker 6: to see a lot of things happen that way. Trump
Speaker 6: is already talking about getting rid of FEMA and letting
Speaker 6: stakes take care of their own disaster responses with you know,
Speaker 6: federal money. But if you won't have an agency like
Speaker 6: FEMA to screwed up like they have in the western
Speaker 6: part of my state, or we got people living in
Speaker 6: tents in the snow, right you know, we're sending billions
Speaker 6: to Ukraine.
Speaker 3: See. And I'm glad. I'm glad you brought this up
Speaker 3: because you and I, if we were doing the Friday
Speaker 3: Night Show, you and I would have to discuss this.
Speaker 3: So I want to give an example of how it
Speaker 3: is we need to face a topic exactly because your
Speaker 3: home state is North Carolina and this has been a
Speaker 3: focus in the past few days where there the disaster
Speaker 3: relief and all that has been in question. Trump went
Speaker 3: in there and said, you know, maybe we should get
Speaker 3: rid of FEMA, and a lot of people would agree
Speaker 3: with him. But here's the problem. Right, if you just
Speaker 3: eliminate FEMA, and you don't have anything to replace it,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of like the bait and switch and
Speaker 3: sweitch again that they did with the healthcare, where he's
Speaker 3: going to have the best healthcare and he's got and
Speaker 3: he came up with nothing to replace the mess that
Speaker 3: is the healthcare. Right. I think that was done on purpose.
Speaker 3: Other people don't whatever argue with yourselves. The point is
Speaker 3: that you're looking at down the barrel of something right
Speaker 3: now in North Carolina where he says we should let
Speaker 3: the people in the states handle it. Here's the logical
Speaker 3: fallacy that's built into that.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: If your state is devastated, your area is devastated, you
Speaker 3: may not be able to have the resources and manpower
Speaker 3: that can function on a local level. Now you need
Speaker 3: local people and you need a better pipeline. Hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, I know what you're thinking. Just give me
Speaker 3: seck because I'm going to set you up to go
Speaker 3: for a minute. Here. The thing is that the local
Speaker 3: people may not be capable of handling this logistically, so
Speaker 3: you do need outside or a regional setup that creates coverage. Okay,
Speaker 3: and the states could do this all by themselves, but
Speaker 3: you and I both well know that states don't set
Speaker 3: aside budgets for a disaster and emergency. They just don't
Speaker 3: do it. Well if they do, it's never enough. So
Speaker 3: the FEDS do need to come in with a FEMA
Speaker 3: like program. But should they be the disaster they've been
Speaker 3: obviously not And he brought up even Katrina, you know,
Speaker 3: Trump during this tirade, So there is a nuance here.
Speaker 3: You can't just eliminate FEMA and say you're on your own.
Speaker 3: That's going to cause more problems. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: FEMA has been a problem in getting things running smoothly
Speaker 3: because they're not aware of the area of the stuff
Speaker 3: that he actually said, which made sense. They don't know
Speaker 3: the area, they don't know where they need to go,
Speaker 3: they don't know what the needs are. So you need
Speaker 3: a blend, and you need a mechanism by which this
Speaker 3: blend doesn't have to be created by people in real time,
Speaker 3: but it's already in place a backup. See, you can
Speaker 3: fight fires if you have a fire station and a
Speaker 3: truck and you have hydrants. If those things are sitting waiting,
Speaker 3: and you have manpower that can come from somewhere else,
Speaker 3: you can fight fires. But if you don't have anything
Speaker 3: in place, and it's just well, you handle it when
Speaker 3: it comes. It's it's going to be done badly. And
Speaker 3: every government in this country, local, state, national, has poorly
Speaker 3: dropped the ball when it comes to response. So something
Speaker 3: new needs to be done. But I say abandoning the
Speaker 3: idea of people coming from outside is also wrong. There
Speaker 3: needs to be ready a combination of things that happens here.
Speaker 3: It's not a simple answer to my mind. Now you're
Speaker 3: in North Carolina and experiencing this and looking at the
Speaker 3: major differences in what was done locally, what has not
Speaker 3: gotten done. No matter what resources you throw at it,
Speaker 3: no matter how much money you throw at it, stuff
Speaker 3: didn't get done. Trump alleged it maybe it was sort
Speaker 3: of a you know, a vengeable thing on Biden's administration's part,
Speaker 3: like we didn't win North Carolina, so screw them. I
Speaker 3: don't think that that's the case. I mean, Biden is definitely,
Speaker 3: you know, not a good guy, But I don't think
Speaker 3: that that was part of the calculus. Even though Trump
Speaker 3: is saying, you know, put voter registration things right in California,
Speaker 3: otherwise we're not going to help you with your wildfires.
Speaker 3: But that's a discussion for another day. I don't think
Speaker 3: Biden did this to North Carolina on purpose. I think
Speaker 3: this is the ineptitude of FEMA and the lack of
Speaker 3: proper preparation which needed to be in place to bring
Speaker 3: together the local and the outside to effectively and expeditiously
Speaker 3: cover these types of events which do have unpredictable and
Speaker 3: radical elements in them. But you're seeing it from, you know,
Speaker 3: firsthand right now in North Carolina. I haven't been flooded
Speaker 3: in Georgia, although we just went through another snow apocalypse
Speaker 3: here because there was snow in Georgia and people freaked
Speaker 3: out as per usual, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: things shut down because an inch of snow, oh is like,
Speaker 3: you know, the end of the world to these people.
Speaker 3: But anyway, it was funny and it was cute for
Speaker 3: a couple of days. But we didn't have a major
Speaker 3: natural disaster, and we don't have well, we have the
Speaker 3: usual number of people living intents that we had before
Speaker 3: the snow came, so nothing changed.
Speaker 2: That's not a natural disaster, whether we were the capital
Speaker 2: of fucking people living intents, member.
Speaker 3: But I argue that it is a natural disaster and
Speaker 3: a man made one as well. I believe those ten
Speaker 3: cities are a product of both. But again a discussion
Speaker 3: for another day. BP. What am I getting wrong about
Speaker 3: this when I'm saying that there is a nuance here,
Speaker 3: there is a need for a combination of these things
Speaker 3: and a preparation that covers the bases properly so that
Speaker 3: it doesn't lay all on the locals. But the locals
Speaker 3: are definitely the rudder that can make things work. And
Speaker 3: we still need the federal money to come in and
Speaker 3: help with these unforeseen natural disasters. That still needs to
Speaker 3: be in place. I think, you know, the Fed's going
Speaker 3: to do anything for us. They should at least help
Speaker 3: us out when our homes are getting cut in half
Speaker 3: as they float into telephone poles like they were part
Speaker 3: of the Titanic. Okay, I do think that that's something
Speaker 3: that should be done, but maybe you don't. What is
Speaker 3: your viewpoint on all this?
Speaker 6: Well, No, I agree with you on a lot of points.
Speaker 6: I have to give North Carolina credit though we're kind
Speaker 6: of unique in that we have suffered, you know, natural
Speaker 6: disasters before. We've been hit by hurricane after hurricane after hurricane.
Speaker 6: So North Carolina have to commend them. They have an
Speaker 6: excellent emergency management system. When it comes to natural disasters
Speaker 6: in this state. We've handled hurricanes, we've handled tornadoes, We've handled,
Speaker 6: believe it or not, wildfires that get going in our
Speaker 6: mountains and in our areas up towards the northeast. This
Speaker 6: one was This one was different, and I think that's
Speaker 6: part of the reason why there was such a slow response.
Speaker 6: This thing originally came in and hit Florida, moved through Georgia,
Speaker 6: up through South Carolina into the mountains of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me interject, you're really quick, right, and I'll
Speaker 2: just because you just hit it right down the head.
Speaker 2: Why this unnatural natural disaster happened. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's along the lines.
Speaker 1: Where you're going.
Speaker 2: But the hurricane started in the Gulf, hit Georgia as a.
Speaker 1: Right, and that's what I mean. Let me finish the
Speaker 1: infinished place.
Speaker 2: It hit, comes up from the Gulf, hits the coast
Speaker 2: in Georgia as a class too, gain strength over land
Speaker 2: to a Class five, and then sits on North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Now I'm no weather expert, gentlemen, but I do know
Speaker 2: a little bit about meteorology, and that in my mind,
Speaker 2: has never happened because in order, the fuel that feeds
Speaker 2: a hurricane is the warm waters from the ocean. How
Speaker 2: the f can a hurricane gain force from a two
Speaker 2: to a five over land unless there was a little
Speaker 2: bit of horror manipulation or some funky technology that happened.
Speaker 3: Well here, let me let me let me break into
Speaker 3: this for just a second, because here's where a problem
Speaker 3: is going to arise. I don't know if you've noticed,
Speaker 3: nature boy, but you know, constantly we're being told this
Speaker 3: is never happened before, This has never happened before. Well,
Speaker 3: no kidding, looks.
Speaker 1: Know what I was being told, But there I have
Speaker 1: never seen before.
Speaker 3: Well, right, but that's because, look, we have tools for
Speaker 3: examination that we did not have in the past. Okay,
Speaker 3: if you think about it, you were alive in the seventies. B.
Speaker 3: Pete was alive in the seventies. The amount of information
Speaker 3: we were told about hurricanes that came and ripped through
Speaker 3: the East Coast was nothing, and we had almost no access.
Speaker 3: I mean you had to find the National Weather Service
Speaker 3: and call them up directly to be told about things
Speaker 3: that were coming down the pike a week later, right,
Speaker 3: I mean that this was the kind of thing you
Speaker 3: had to do proactively. There are a great many tools
Speaker 3: available for you to actually see many things you've never
Speaker 3: seen before.
Speaker 1: And are you are let me let me interject. Are
Speaker 1: you on the viewpoint that the.
Speaker 2: Hurricane Helene was a natural event and that weather modification
Speaker 2: technology was not used.
Speaker 3: I think that weather modification is a constant and it's
Speaker 3: not always known by those who are playing with this
Speaker 3: exactly what the total end results are going to be.
Speaker 1: I think that's natural or unnatural.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say it's likely to be a combination of.
Speaker 1: Both a natural unnatural disaster.
Speaker 3: Where you have yeah, where you have you know, a
Speaker 3: natural occurrence that has now been steered or planned up, or.
Speaker 1: That is the weather modification I was referring to.
Speaker 3: Now here's the question though, is it, you know, intelligently guided,
Speaker 3: is it something that was intended or is it something
Speaker 3: that is as a result of some else. Like let's
Speaker 3: just say theoretically, I've decided in my weather modification bunker
Speaker 3: that I want to drop additional rain on South Carolina, Okay,
Speaker 3: because I think that's a good thing to do and
Speaker 3: that'll help with the crops, and that's going to assist
Speaker 3: with the economy, and I want to push it that way.
Speaker 3: The end result could be I destroy half of North
Speaker 3: Carolina doing it, But that wasn't what I intended to do.
Speaker 3: Because once nature gets a hold of things that we
Speaker 3: loose into the atmosphere, into the biosphere, unpredicted results always
Speaker 3: seem to occur. Even if you look at you know,
Speaker 3: what was an Operation Popeye during the Vietnam War, which
Speaker 3: was weather modification during the Vietnam War. This had unintended results.
Speaker 3: Agent Orange, which was for defoliation. Everybody's heard of that.
Speaker 2: I actually had the intended result, Yes, intended to flood
Speaker 2: out the Vietcong. Yes, I'm not sure if the nconor
Speaker 2: what value it was. And it succeeded immensely. I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: I poor for two weeks.
Speaker 3: But it created but it created additional results you see
Speaker 3: that were not in results. The other additional results. You
Speaker 3: got to look at Cambodia and what the effects were
Speaker 3: in Cambodia that were not part of the equation.
Speaker 1: Or were they I just want to know.
Speaker 3: Well, you did lose some of the rice production in
Speaker 3: certain areas which was not predicted, and that changed the
Speaker 3: way that the North Vietnamese army was being fed because
Speaker 3: quite honestly, they had a lot of staging areas within
Speaker 3: the borders of Cambodia, which Nixon famously ended up bombing. Right,
Speaker 3: But some of that stuff, some of their supply lines
Speaker 3: at the very root of them, the stuff that was
Speaker 3: there to feed the North Vietnamese army was screwed up
Speaker 3: for a while. That was not an intended result. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that they were unhappy about it, but they
Speaker 3: got a bonus, you know.
Speaker 2: For danger of weather technology, right, Dubai, the recent examples
Speaker 2: of Dubai, they flooded out the fucking desert, corrential floods, right,
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like.
Speaker 6: Sometimes a hurricane is just a hurricane.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, I agree, and I think it started
Speaker 2: that way BPTE.
Speaker 3: But you know, there's no reason for people who are
Speaker 3: in certain agencies, and we do know that they have
Speaker 3: made efforts to modify the weather. There has been experimentations
Speaker 3: that have made it to the public that are real.
Speaker 3: It's not like this is fantasy.
Speaker 6: Well, I understand that, but in this case, with this hurricane,
Speaker 6: this one did exactly the same thing that Hugo did
Speaker 6: when it came in around Charleston, South Carolina. It blew
Speaker 6: inward until it hit that blatch of mountains and then
Speaker 6: ran right up the spine. This one was the same way,
Speaker 6: only when this one hit it was a Category four
Speaker 6: when it hit Landfall. Okay, it hit Landfall, it went
Speaker 6: straight in because you didn't have the steering currents that
Speaker 6: you normally have on the coast when one comes in
Speaker 6: from that direction. Right, the only thing that tears a
Speaker 6: port of Hurrican as the sheer force of the winds
Speaker 6: working against it.
Speaker 3: Well, and there were and here's the thing about the
Speaker 3: mountains changing right, and.
Speaker 6: When it hit South Carolina, it ran right up the
Speaker 6: spine of the mountains, and the worst counties that were
Speaker 6: hit were Mitchell and Avery counties right along the spine.
Speaker 6: The problem is you've got eighty mile an hour wind
Speaker 6: gusts in the middle of the mountains, which took down
Speaker 6: a lot of trees. And because it hovered there and
Speaker 6: dropped so much rain that was the fuel for it
Speaker 6: was coming off the gulf, it was able to get
Speaker 6: so big, and it had so much water with it
Speaker 6: that it brought in with it. You're suddenly looking at
Speaker 6: thirteen inches of rain in a given spot in the mountains.
Speaker 6: Thirteen inches of rain on the coast is one thing,
Speaker 6: but when you put it at elevations and grade, it's
Speaker 6: a disaster waiting to happen. And that's what happened. The
Speaker 6: rivers and creeks got inundated, the flash floods happened, and
Speaker 6: it took everything down the mountain side at once.
Speaker 3: See, now here's an open question that. Again I don't
Speaker 3: have the greatest scientific back for this, but I do
Speaker 3: recognize a couple of things here that a lot of
Speaker 3: other people are not bringing into the conversation. And it's
Speaker 3: not you guys, and it's it's just in general, nobody
Speaker 3: talks about this. See, there are affective points where mountain
Speaker 3: ranges affect hurricanes, and people think, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: about the water, like you were talking about. You know,
Speaker 3: you get over the warm water, it does this, you
Speaker 3: get over cold water, it does that. Those things are true.
Speaker 3: But in addition, some of these mountain ranges contain elements
Speaker 3: that cause certain magnetic effects to occur, and magnetism is
Speaker 3: one of the most often ignored things in natural science
Speaker 3: as well as you know, the energetic sciences, where they're
Speaker 3: trying to produce you know, energy in this way that way,
Speaker 3: or be more efficient, et cetera. Magnetism is often left
Speaker 3: off of the equation and the fact that the mountains
Speaker 3: influence these things. I'm serious. I know you know you're
Speaker 3: kind of laughing at this because I don't have the
Speaker 3: best laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm not laughing, how just read in the comment Sorry
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: No, that's a okay. I'm sure it's funny stuff too,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's getting interesting in there. But I
Speaker 3: ask you guys to consider this, you guys commenting, you
Speaker 3: guys listening that if you have naturally occurring, ignored circumstances
Speaker 3: that are created by these mountains. You know, there are
Speaker 3: still people doing geological studies because geology doesn't just affect
Speaker 3: the earth under your feet, Okay, it can affect the
Speaker 3: rest of the biosphere. It is part of the earth. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the thing is that this has an effect because remember,
Speaker 3: you know, when a rain cloud comes over your head,
Speaker 3: it's not full of eight billion gallons of water, Okay,
Speaker 3: it creates a reaction by induction that generates that water.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not a giant pool over your head
Speaker 3: waiting to be dumped on you like a bucket. Okay,
Speaker 3: even though if you're in Florida it looks like that sometimes,
Speaker 3: like as if somebody just dropped a giant bucket over
Speaker 3: your head for five minutes and then it's gone and
Speaker 3: sunshine is back. But that's not what actually happens. There
Speaker 3: is a reaction that occurs, and again I argue that
Speaker 3: the public is not fully aware of that reaction.
Speaker 2: That brings up a very interesting point if you're talking
Speaker 2: about magnetism, because over those isn't the purest deposits of
Speaker 2: courts in the world in that area, and courts is
Speaker 2: directly related to magnetism. It is the reason why radios
Speaker 2: and we are talking today.
Speaker 3: Well, I would not claim to fully reckon with all
Speaker 3: of the elements that are in play here. I would
Speaker 3: say that you could be at least in part right
Speaker 3: when it comes to the courts, but there are other
Speaker 3: things there that are being ignored. Again that creates right
Speaker 3: or wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that right instant correlation because you're talking
Speaker 2: about magnetism and the effects that I can have on
Speaker 2: the storms, which is something that I haven't heard brought
Speaker 2: into any conversation yet, which kind of intrigues me.
Speaker 3: There's a whole bucket of issues that can come up
Speaker 3: with you know, that can come up when you add
Speaker 3: magnetism into the equation. You know, the magnetic pull of
Speaker 3: this and that and the third thing do guide a
Speaker 3: lot of natural events that you see, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, one could even say that the tides and
Speaker 3: the way that the moon is in position at the
Speaker 3: time of these occurrences is also a factor. We know that,
Speaker 3: right there is the concept of the circadian rhythm and
Speaker 3: all this, All of these factors are never brought in
Speaker 3: by the scientific community when examining these things. They don't
Speaker 3: handle it all. Okay, So it's a limited look. So
Speaker 3: when it comes to meteorology, if you take note over
Speaker 3: the past decade, there is a lot of instances where
Speaker 3: these allegedly, you know, very educated people who studied this
Speaker 3: in college and you know, they've actually got a degree
Speaker 3: in meteorology. They're not just a pretty girl on the
Speaker 3: weather map, right They're out there saying stuff like, this
Speaker 3: is one hundred year storm, this is a five hundred
Speaker 3: year storm, this has never occurred before, this could not
Speaker 3: have occurred before, And a lot of them start to
Speaker 3: point at I know, here comes dirty world. It's global
Speaker 3: warming or climate change or whatever. But is the climate changing? Yes,
Speaker 3: now it is, I believe, But it's not just because
Speaker 3: the weather's changing. There's a lot of things that play
Speaker 3: here and it's not about the carbon.
Speaker 1: Jeff, real quick about the climate change. Is it changing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: My big question, yeah, has always been, is because cols
Speaker 2: are far and too much and we're driving too much.
Speaker 2: But what I don't hear is what is the effect
Speaker 2: on our global climate from all of the geo engineering
Speaker 2: programs that have been going on for decades that continue
Speaker 2: to go on to this day.
Speaker 1: Just look in the sky.
Speaker 3: Well again, so if you're going to deny, you know, look,
Speaker 3: if you remove things from the equation, you have a
Speaker 3: less complete answer when you're trying to assess how and
Speaker 3: why things have occurred. Very simple. Again, we can take
Speaker 3: this through the JFKK, so we can take this through
Speaker 3: the meteorological circumstances that are being reported to you. But
Speaker 3: the point at the end of the day, the overall point,
Speaker 3: is not necessarily about the political arguments here. Let's not
Speaker 3: bog down in it. But let's recognize that we are
Speaker 3: dealing within complete information here and at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. The real thing that we need to contend
Speaker 3: with first up is exactly what b. Pete was talking about,
Speaker 3: and how it is best to combat the effects of
Speaker 3: this salad of whatever, whether it's natural, man made, a
Speaker 3: government program, it's our enemies actually working against us with
Speaker 3: weather war, you know whatever. It doesn't matter if we
Speaker 3: don't know how to contend with any of it when
Speaker 3: it lands on our heads.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we're still wore dwelling in a little bit
Speaker 2: of hypothetical. Let's go back to reality here again, and
Speaker 2: let's forget about the weather technologies.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't know we departed reality, but go ahead. No, never, well,
Speaker 3: you said let's go back to it. I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: we can't be that far away. Yeah, you said, let's
Speaker 3: go back to reality.
Speaker 2: I've seen we're going to hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Let's good.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My mistake. Okay, let's let's let's
Speaker 3: voice is my curse.
Speaker 1: But let's look at this. Let's look at what is
Speaker 1: really happening.
Speaker 2: Is a little started Lahina, Right, you have a natural
Speaker 2: disaster that comes in, in comes the Feds, They lock
Speaker 2: everything down, they.
Speaker 1: Kick people off their property. Basically say it's ours now.
Speaker 2: In Conveniently, before NA hit, there was that big new
Speaker 2: legislation to protect the you know, indigenous people of Lahina.
Speaker 2: But down there in the small princess case of the
Speaker 2: natural disaster, then kind of all bets are off. Okay,
Speaker 2: So now you're seeing a land grab and some of
Speaker 2: the most valuable real estate in the world with a
Speaker 2: population that was steadfast.
Speaker 1: On not selling it. So let's move ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, wait till you see what happens in California with
Speaker 6: the land grab. You've got people to have houses they
Speaker 6: fall back in the sixties and the fifties and the seventies.
Speaker 6: They've paid next to nothing for them. They've been on
Speaker 6: them for thirty years. They're handed down from family to family,
Speaker 6: and now they're not going to be able to afford
Speaker 6: to rebuild. Their only thing they're going to be left
Speaker 6: with is a piece of real estate. And people are
Speaker 6: going to come in and they want to build that
Speaker 6: forty two million dollar mansion, but they need three lots to.
Speaker 3: Do it well. And if you want a good example
Speaker 3: of how this is about land.
Speaker 6: Change and money in land grab, it's getting ready to
Speaker 6: happen in California. Kind of brought it on themselves.
Speaker 3: Now you want a longer standing circumstance where you can
Speaker 3: look back and see exactly how it's going to get
Speaker 3: played out in California, except with bigger numbers. I urge
Speaker 3: you to look back at what's called Superstorm Sandy in
Speaker 3: the New York and New Jersey area because what occurred here,
Speaker 3: and I lived through that. I was in one of
Speaker 3: those blacked out areas where in the area was crippled. Okay,
Speaker 3: these are the considerations. People see it on the news.
Speaker 3: They don't get it. You know, if you can't pump gas,
Speaker 3: then you only have a certain distance you can go
Speaker 3: before you can even escape the dead zone. Okay. That
Speaker 3: occurred in New Jersey, one of the small est states
Speaker 3: in the Union, where you were effectively locked down because
Speaker 3: there was no possible transportation unless you were going to
Speaker 3: line up cars and position them along the way, okay,
Speaker 3: and literally siphon gas from a container into another. It
Speaker 3: was very difficult to escape the dead areas where there
Speaker 3: was no cell phones, no electricity, no gasoline being pumped,
Speaker 3: no food coming in because you couldn't send a truck
Speaker 3: in there that couldn't get back out if it couldn't
Speaker 3: get gas. Okay, So there was a circumstance there where
Speaker 3: indeed a greater hand needed to be had. Now you
Speaker 3: could talk about the different results. Barack Obama was the
Speaker 3: president back then. I know, there's another curse word I
Speaker 3: just said, but bear with me, you know. And Christy
Speaker 3: was our governor, okay, And they hugged, and everybody freaked
Speaker 3: out while we're sitting there trying to go you know,
Speaker 3: we'd like to not starve to death, please, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm not caring about whether the fat man's hugging
Speaker 3: the black guy. It really doesn't matter to me. Get
Speaker 3: something done in those circumstances. If you take a look
Speaker 3: at the long term ramifications, okay, an area of the
Speaker 3: country which was reliant on its tourist traffic and people
Speaker 3: coming in and the value of that real estate along yes,
Speaker 3: the shore and not the TV show. I mean the
Speaker 3: physical land part that is the shore, the little islands
Speaker 3: off the coast of New Jersey that were wiped out
Speaker 3: in Superstorm Sandy, the bridges, the infrastructure that was wiped out.
Speaker 3: And during Superstorm Sandy, we saw resort towns reduced to
Speaker 3: ghost towns in New Jersey. One of the most densely
Speaker 3: populated states in the country, and what was the end
Speaker 3: result with the land grab and what the FED did?
Speaker 3: They gave you checks for your spoiled groceries. Indeed they did,
Speaker 3: and about three or four weeks later people got help.
Speaker 3: But if we didn't take care of ourselves in Jersey,
Speaker 3: of all places, we were going to starve to death. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's just that simple. We were going to start turning
Speaker 3: on our neighbors for resources. And it only happened in
Speaker 3: a limited fashion.
Speaker 6: That's the point we were trying to get too early
Speaker 6: on FEMA's being able to handle these things and do
Speaker 6: it away with FEMA. When this thing happened in North
Speaker 6: Carolina on local agency every you got to realize western
Speaker 6: part of North Carolina is very rural. There's not you know,
Speaker 6: there are towns, but you've got you've got first responders,
Speaker 6: you've got volunteer fire departments, You've got all of these
Speaker 6: people that are in the community. They know the community.
Speaker 6: And what happened in this case, FEMA did no preparation whatsoever.
Speaker 6: They didn't preposition manpower, they didn't preposition supplies. This thing
Speaker 6: hit in Florida and trapes to sway all the way
Speaker 6: up the coast, well through the mountains. The problem is
Speaker 6: is when FEMA got there, they wanted to slam their
Speaker 6: federal regulations down and not work with the local communities
Speaker 6: in any natural disaster. I don't care if it's Jersey,
Speaker 6: if it's California, if it's Florida, if it's North Carolina.
Speaker 6: Your local people are the ones that take care of
Speaker 6: get in the water, take care of getting the food.
Speaker 6: We had groups that came in contact with FEMA, and
Speaker 6: FEMA wanted to start strong arm in people. They're going,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, We've got a good thing here. Why
Speaker 6: do you want to mess it up? We are this
Speaker 6: in place, this in place, and this in place. Well, right,
Speaker 6: this taken care of. We already have these people accounted for.
Speaker 6: We have to do search and rescue some of the
Speaker 6: most rugged areas on the East coast right now, with.
Speaker 3: More perspective, with more perspective, pared to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: with more perspective in Jersey, right, with more perspective. Historically
Speaker 3: in Jersey, I can tell you that what the network was,
Speaker 3: and I'm not a and of organized religion, remember, but
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. It was networking via the churches
Speaker 3: and people on the ground that put the immediate you know,
Speaker 3: that stopped the immediate bleeding that was going on in
Speaker 3: Jersey when the Feds were not prepared, the locals were
Speaker 3: not prepared. See, that's the thing. There needs to be
Speaker 3: contingencies in place to cover this in the not the
Speaker 3: worst case scenario they've ever seen, but the all hell
Speaker 3: breaks loose scenario where yes, indeed, you end up with
Speaker 3: dead zones right that, Like I said, there was a
Speaker 3: logistical nightmare here. How do you send a food truck
Speaker 3: in that you can't get back out? How do you
Speaker 3: you know, get gasoline in there when nobody can pump it?
Speaker 3: Because you know, we used to have cranks, you know,
Speaker 3: actually literally physical cranking, gas pumps and gas stations. Nobody's
Speaker 3: got those anymore. So guess what happens when you've got
Speaker 3: no electricity. You could have ten thousand gallons of gas
Speaker 3: in the ground.
Speaker 1: You can't do nothing with it. And trust me, I
Speaker 1: do that for I know how to get gas out
Speaker 1: of underground dank.
Speaker 3: But the average Yes, that's the thing. Person don't That's
Speaker 3: the thing. So when all of a sudden, people who
Speaker 3: have been relying on certain things don't have it and
Speaker 3: there's no contingency in place. See, even if FEMA had
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of those, say, you know, hand hand
Speaker 3: operated gas pumps, right that could actually literally physically take
Speaker 3: the gas out of the ground without the benefit of electricity.
Speaker 3: Even if they had that in place somewhere, okay, and
Speaker 3: they had deposits of those in particular areas that require
Speaker 3: you know, transportation, that could have saved lives just that alone.
Speaker 3: These are the types of contingencies that need to be
Speaker 3: prepared and put aside. Forget about giving your extra bear
Speaker 3: cats to the local police stations when the Pentagon has
Speaker 3: too many of them. Send them gas pumps, damn it,
Speaker 3: send them generators, send them the staging equipment necessary to
Speaker 3: create chains for supply. Yes, I did say that phrase,
Speaker 3: change supply to make sure that you can at least
Speaker 3: sustain the place while you put into action these other
Speaker 3: things that BP was just talking about, that they no
Speaker 3: matter how much money gets dumped in, no matter how
Speaker 3: many local people say they've got it, you have a
Speaker 3: local contingent that can handle some things, but you're going
Speaker 3: to need the extra You're going to need an innovation here.
Speaker 3: And I think you can agree with me on that.
Speaker 6: But that's where the question of what happened with the
Speaker 6: Biden administration, And you know you made the comments you
Speaker 6: didn't think that you know, Biden did this on purpose.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't.
Speaker 6: It was the ineptness of the government involved.
Speaker 3: He has no militias, just incompetent.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the government's incompetent. I mean, look at it this way.
Speaker 6: You have Fort Bragg, which is holds a Special Forces
Speaker 6: airborne all right, you know, two hours away by helicopter.
Speaker 6: It took weeks for Biden to get off his ass
Speaker 6: and order somebody to get some troops together to send
Speaker 6: up there and help those people. The only thing a
Speaker 6: governor can do is initiate the National Guard, and the
Speaker 6: governor got on it. Like I say, North Carolina has
Speaker 6: got a pretty good emergency management system in place, and
Speaker 6: they do take advantage of the locals that are there
Speaker 6: that are setting things up. In this case, you had
Speaker 6: the federal government come in late, and then when they
Speaker 6: got there, they wanted to be so hard handed about it.
Speaker 6: People were basically saying, we don't need your fucking help.
Speaker 6: We're fine, you leave it up to us. We'll take
Speaker 6: care of ourselves. And that's the way it's getting in
Speaker 6: all of these areas that are hit by these naturals.
Speaker 1: Exactly because Trump today.
Speaker 6: Mentioned that he's going to put the Corps of Engineers
Speaker 6: on repairing these infrastructure roads. The number of roads that
Speaker 6: were wiped out from this event was more than you
Speaker 6: see on any coastal hurricane that hits. And these are
Speaker 6: vital lifelines because unlike the metropolis areas, the urban areas
Speaker 6: and the eastern part of North Carolina got road running everywhere.
Speaker 6: That's not the case in the mountains. One road in
Speaker 6: and one road out for that group of people living
Speaker 6: in that small community, and the only way to get there.
Speaker 6: The locals know how to do it. So you have
Speaker 6: different agencies that have spectacular, spectacular and specific things that
Speaker 6: they can do. The government needs to do a better
Speaker 6: job of getting those people from the corp of Engineers,
Speaker 6: those people from social services or health and Human services
Speaker 6: that can put teams together. And you don't need FEMA.
Speaker 6: You put another level on top of something, you gum up,
Speaker 6: the work's even worse.
Speaker 3: No, but you do need a resource.
Speaker 6: You need need to get more deference to the locals
Speaker 6: to handle their problem right.
Speaker 3: You need resources to direct it's not to direct the operations.
Speaker 3: But you need resources to distribute, is what you're saying in.
Speaker 6: A clearing house. That's all you need. I'm a prime example.
Speaker 6: We had a fire that was burning in the northeast
Speaker 6: part of the state, and up there the soil is
Speaker 6: pure peat moss in the ground. So these fires would
Speaker 6: get going and they would burn underground, and they had
Speaker 6: problems putting it out. They had problems putting it out.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 6: Finally it burned enough that it got on federal game lands,
Speaker 6: and that's when the FED stepped in. There's federal game lands.
Speaker 6: We're going to come in here, we're going to fix things.
Speaker 6: And the locals said, you don't know how to put
Speaker 6: out these fires. Let explain something. You need to go
Speaker 6: down the air with equipment and start building a dyke.
Speaker 6: When you get done with that dike, you need to
Speaker 6: pump into that area and flood it, and then go
Speaker 6: down further and build another dyke. And when you got
Speaker 6: that section flooded, you start pumping from that into the
Speaker 6: next section and flood that area. It was the locals
Speaker 6: that had to teach the Feds how to put these
Speaker 6: fires out because they've been fighting them for years.
Speaker 3: Because they know how it works.
Speaker 6: We were the clearing house. The agency I was working
Speaker 6: with was the clearing house for all of this material
Speaker 6: that was coming in and being used. And they figured
Speaker 6: they were wondering, you know, where do we get this?
Speaker 6: Where do we know this? Call the guy that makes
Speaker 6: the awe means and bring tell him what material you need.
Speaker 6: We were making twelve inch hoses to fit pumps right
Speaker 6: for them to then take out attached to these things
Speaker 6: and leap fraud this fire to get it under control.
Speaker 6: And they, I mean, after what a month, they finally
Speaker 6: got to put out. But that was a crew case
Speaker 6: where the locals knew exactly what to do. They just
Speaker 6: needed the materials to do it. And stuff finally got there.
Speaker 6: The federal government didn't want to listen.
Speaker 1: To them until they did.
Speaker 6: When you're going to find out, you're not going to
Speaker 6: get up on top of this thing. When you get
Speaker 6: to that point, come talk to us. We'll show you
Speaker 6: how to put it out.
Speaker 2: Let me interject. I think that there, I think both
Speaker 2: of you bring very valid points to the table. I
Speaker 2: think that there does need to be better response to
Speaker 2: consolidate resources that aren't there locally. I also think that
Speaker 2: it's the locals who know more about how to deal
Speaker 2: with the disasters than the feds. The problem with the
Speaker 2: federal system to many of them one they are ignorant,
Speaker 2: hubiistic bureaucrats who think that they know more than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Plus there are lots of hidden agendas behind these large departments.
Speaker 2: It would, in my mind, be a nice solution not
Speaker 2: to eliminate female let's wipe it off the loot because
Speaker 2: the fucked up, but change the paradigm, change the culture,
Speaker 2: change the direction of what this organization is for. It
Speaker 2: should be to help the citizens get through emergencies and
Speaker 2: then help them rebuild. Instead, what it has become is
Speaker 2: an agency that restricts local help and locals from doing
Speaker 2: what they want and need to do, then comes in
Speaker 2: with all their feme and regulations and locks everything down.
Speaker 2: So what is left Even if you want to rebuild,
Speaker 2: you can't because oh, well we've got this regulation because
Speaker 2: this was a natural disaster and it changes all laws.
Speaker 2: Now you've falling under this legal statute. That's what it
Speaker 2: has become, right, So the rapidly if we could change
Speaker 2: the paradigm.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Other than that, I'm not smart enough to know what
Speaker 2: the solution is. But I do know that we got
Speaker 2: a really screwed up system and we're having a lot,
Speaker 2: untold tens of thousands of Americans that are suffering because
Speaker 2: of the ineptitude of our federal government. Can you tell
Speaker 2: me I'm not a fan of the Feds by any means.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look, and here's the brilliant point that you're bringing up,
Speaker 3: is that what we need at times of natural disaster
Speaker 3: are people that understand the land and understand and what
Speaker 3: we have in hand to begin with, and can request
Speaker 3: what is needed to make things work, not a team
Speaker 3: of lawyers to figure out whose jurisdiction it is and
Speaker 3: what regulations are being followed. Those people. If you're bringing
Speaker 3: in a team of lawyers because your state is getting
Speaker 3: buried and burnt or flooded or whatever, you have already
Speaker 3: lost at the beginning of the game, my friend, that's
Speaker 3: what the problem is. So indeed, I you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not even objecting to eliminate FEMA. Maybe do it, but
Speaker 3: put something in its place first to catch what FEMA
Speaker 3: does occasionally do right right, and then improve on it.
Speaker 3: Don't just sit there and say well that's done and
Speaker 3: we're good. We're up to hear you're never ever going
Speaker 3: to have every contingency covered. It doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 3: war or you're battling mother nature, or you're battling you know,
Speaker 3: the flavor of the week in the Middle East. You
Speaker 3: will never cover every contingency because it's just not possible.
Speaker 3: And don't don't start tell me about handing this over
Speaker 3: to AI, which is going to be the newest thing.
Speaker 3: You know, Hey, Musk has the AI to handle natural disasters.
Speaker 3: Let's just turn it over to Siva, the newest AI.
Speaker 1: That's what George Jesus is setting up for.
Speaker 6: Shall remember if they didn't want to accept his what's
Speaker 6: his satellite communications system, they didn't even want to accept
Speaker 6: him coming in and giving them free to community so
Speaker 6: that they had a line out and could get a
Speaker 6: hold of people and talk about what they needed in
Speaker 6: the area. Bright stars, Yeah, a starlink or whatever it is.
Speaker 6: He was able to come in, set those things up
Speaker 6: and get communications to these areas that are so remote.
Speaker 6: I mean we're talking about very remote areas. It's you know,
Speaker 6: you might have thirty people living up two roads, but
Speaker 6: they're five miles up the mountain, and you've got to
Speaker 6: be able to get till then everything is washed out
Speaker 6: between there and here. So you know, people were Samaritans, Purse.
Speaker 6: There's a couple other Christian organizations I've forget their name.
Speaker 6: They were there within the day when the winds died.
Speaker 6: They were already doing what they had to do to
Speaker 6: help people out. And it's those agencies, those and a
Speaker 6: lot of them, I hate to say it, a lot
Speaker 6: of them are Christian organizations that that are able to
Speaker 6: go in and be the actual first responders. If it
Speaker 6: wasn't for organizations like that, all of these areas would
Speaker 6: if they'd be devastated with no help whatsoever.
Speaker 3: So I don't care if it's the Church. Look, I
Speaker 3: don't care if it's the Church of Satan. As long
Speaker 3: as we're getting the water in there, we're getting the
Speaker 3: resources in there, and we're actually preserving life. Uh that's
Speaker 3: the goal, you know what I mean. I don't care.
Speaker 3: And again I'm not a fan of organized religion on
Speaker 3: any level, but still, uh yeah, absolutely these see these
Speaker 3: are common sense approaches as opposed to reactionary nonsense. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing. In the meantime, you're gonna be given,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be fed, the reactionary nonsense. Let's just do this,
Speaker 3: wipe it out. Female, Yay, we win. It's not over. Okay,
Speaker 3: it doesn't work if you but if.
Speaker 6: You look, you know, everybody thinks that a lot of
Speaker 6: people automatically, when something bad happens, they want to turn
Speaker 6: to the federal government. Andy, go, okay, where's ours? You know,
Speaker 6: we got a handout, where's our money? They come down
Speaker 6: here and bail us out. The federal government stretching into
Speaker 6: these areas where they really had no business to begin with.
Speaker 6: It's created this behemoth that is just swallowing our taxes
Speaker 6: on things that are unnecessary. And we can start pairing
Speaker 6: things down. Maybe that's something that we'll see out of
Speaker 6: this next administration. They'll start whittling it down. But I'm
Speaker 6: afraid the federal government has gotten too big to whittle
Speaker 6: it down. And if we're at that point, we're screwed.
Speaker 6: The whole system is going to have to collapse before
Speaker 6: anything that can be done. But you know, I put
Speaker 6: my faith. I choose to live in this state because
Speaker 6: I like the laws of this state. I like what
Speaker 6: this state does and what it has to offer. It's
Speaker 6: one of the most diverse states in the United States.
Speaker 6: We got we go from the mountains to the coast,
Speaker 6: and you've got the only the only more diverse state.
Speaker 6: I would think the North Carolina. This personal opinion would
Speaker 6: be California only because it's so large and it covers
Speaker 6: such a degree of change from mountains to the coast
Speaker 6: in that respect. But you know, we've learned something over
Speaker 6: the years of having to handle these disasters, and I
Speaker 6: think we do a better job of it than the
Speaker 6: federal government. And if we could start getting those resources
Speaker 6: that the government is eating up through just mismanagement and waste,
Speaker 6: and give it back to the states and let them
Speaker 6: apply it where it's needed, I think you'll see a
Speaker 6: better use of your dollar perhaps.
Speaker 3: But the one problem with California, and this is the
Speaker 3: thing that I observe. And again, you know, look, nature boy,
Speaker 3: you might have a better handle on it as far
Speaker 3: as you know, being able to observe certain things. But
Speaker 3: here's what I observe about California is, no matter who
Speaker 3: they put in office, no matter who, how how much
Speaker 3: they work with the federal government or anything else, I
Speaker 3: do not see California actively trying to prevent these continuous fires.
Speaker 3: I don't see them preventing these fires. Not effectively for sure,
Speaker 3: but it almost seems as though there is no effort
Speaker 3: to prevent and prevent you.
Speaker 2: Is there to thank you very much, There is no
Speaker 2: effort by our state government. I mean there is a
Speaker 2: vestigial on the surface level and they are doing things
Speaker 2: to help.
Speaker 1: But when it comes down they look true.
Speaker 2: Why to prevent these things, to give the resources to
Speaker 2: the people to make this state a better thing?
Speaker 1: It is the opposite. It is Marxist mentality. Burn it's start.
Speaker 6: Of a few conservatives out there. You might see a
Speaker 6: change on things, but you guys are did sit against it.
Speaker 6: You're the lower half of your state's burning up more.
Speaker 2: Here's my counter on the fires, might be that turning
Speaker 2: force and turning the state at least purple. Because here's
Speaker 2: what I mean, right La, those rich people down there
Speaker 2: control the narrative of the nation.
Speaker 1: Okay, let alone in the state.
Speaker 2: Now, if they're getting burnt out and the government ain't
Speaker 2: helping them, it doesn't take much nudging or propaganda if
Speaker 2: you want to add in the mix to convince them.
Speaker 2: People that maybe wrote a little bit of red might
Speaker 2: help out the state. Now me, I'm a political atheist.
Speaker 2: I think they're all f and corrupt, but still it
Speaker 2: might be that impetus to get people to reconsider this
Speaker 2: liberal blue haired Love is love, and there ain't no
Speaker 2: sin state that says come one, come all. Meanwhile, these
Speaker 2: people up there that are supposed to be like, oh
Speaker 2: when it's open, aggressive and all this are so correct
Speaker 2: because they've got houses in the Pacific Heights and a
Speaker 2: few of them probably.
Speaker 3: Burnt up in the LA fires.
Speaker 1: Well, so this state politically is screwede.
Speaker 3: See but again, but again I got a point to
Speaker 3: the history because remember this is also the state that
Speaker 3: had Governor Reagan. This is also the state that had
Speaker 3: guess what the governor tal This is also so these
Speaker 3: are not all liberal progressive problems. This problem wasn't built overnight.
Speaker 3: Mind Ry Ryan to.
Speaker 2: Change and old govern Thal govern Thal, Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was a puppet, had the state, the bureaucracy.
Speaker 6: Personality and absolutes the cult of personality better than anybody else.
Speaker 3: Yes, but that But but the issue of it progressively
Speaker 3: getting worse happened no matter who you put in there.
Speaker 3: Whether he was a puppet, he was a legitimate conservative.
Speaker 3: You've had other people there, You've had weird guys like
Speaker 3: Jerry Brown running your state too. I mean this has
Speaker 3: been a grab bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is the state for almost one
Speaker 2: hundred years has been run by four families.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Getty's, the Newsome's.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Gray is one of them, but
Speaker 2: there's a couple other ones, and they have predominantly been
Speaker 2: the head of the snake which has been steering this
Speaker 2: monolithic state we call California, right, and it's steering it
Speaker 2: into the ground because they're all corrupt, they're all globalists.
Speaker 1: Okay, see, but there's the key.
Speaker 3: This isn't all of it. But this isn't all about
Speaker 3: but this isn't all about your pronouns for forty fifty years.
Speaker 3: This is about the problem you just laid out, nature Boy,
Speaker 3: where there is a stranglehold. Okay, And the Gettys, I
Speaker 3: would argue, were not progressive.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's a lot of tunnels into the
Speaker 2: Getty Museum for what I understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, various things out down there. But that's a different
Speaker 1: show for different days.
Speaker 3: That's definitely a different show.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying post's attacker with some strange wacko
Speaker 2: who hit him with a hammer. Meanwhile, they're both in
Speaker 2: his lobby, both are in their underwear, and one's got
Speaker 2: to drink in his hand as a hammer.
Speaker 1: No, it was just a strange attacker.
Speaker 3: This is the same state where they couldn't catch the
Speaker 3: Golden State Killer until a you know, a novelist got
Speaker 3: on the case, right, I mean, look, and it had
Speaker 3: to be the wife of a comedian Paton Oswald shout out. Anyways,
Speaker 3: the thing is, you know, you got mass murderers, you
Speaker 3: got serial killers who had free reign over parts of
Speaker 3: California historically huge, right, not just because the state's big,
Speaker 3: not just because everybody was a progressive liberal. Although I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, we asked Richard Ramirez if the
Speaker 3: the version of Satanism is more progressive or not. I
Speaker 3: don't know. And isn't that one of the great series
Speaker 3: real killers? There Isn't he like newly transgendered now too?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: They transgender lots of prisons.
Speaker 1: Or Mendez brothers.
Speaker 3: I believe one of the Mendez brothers, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well he turned prison bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he only killed his parents, so he's not
Speaker 3: really you know, a big name.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: But but in the state is in the state. People
Speaker 1: know who the Mirrors brothers are.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think, but I think there was something
Speaker 2: that they're gonna there's something to give him clinency or
Speaker 2: something like Mendez.
Speaker 3: Yeah Menandez brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Prison, But I'll tell you what, man, you've been in
Speaker 2: prison that long and shit, Well, you know, he's kind
Speaker 2: of a cute boy.
Speaker 1: So you know, things happen in the pen that don't
Speaker 1: happen on the outside, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's not He's not a queen bee like
Speaker 3: Richard Speck. But let's get back to the let's get
Speaker 3: back to the problem. I don't know if anybody knows
Speaker 3: the story of Richard Speck. That's freakish.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, this guy turned around, got hormone therapy long
Speaker 3: before it was trendy, and went and got himself a
Speaker 3: set of cans and uh it was walking around in
Speaker 3: women's underwear, you know, being a queen bee.
Speaker 2: I was saw an interview with him and he said
Speaker 2: there's more sex and drugs on the inside.
Speaker 1: Than there is on the outside.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's an old dude that they shout him
Speaker 2: doing lines with titties and.
Speaker 3: Ship Yeah no, and he yea yeah, and it's weird
Speaker 3: because those titties back then look better than half of
Speaker 3: these debacles that you see loosed on us.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: You know these weird chop jobs, chop shod chop jobs
Speaker 3: that are done on these guys where they just butcher
Speaker 3: them up and now you're a woman. No I'm not,
Speaker 3: I'm just butchered Jesus. Anyways, you know, it gets rough
Speaker 3: and it's not all rue.
Speaker 2: Paul Land, Joe Nu Puss, a stink like a deadis
Speaker 2: sitting on the porch for a week.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't imagine how that that flesh stays alive
Speaker 3: too long anyway in a prison can especially. But look,
Speaker 3: let's let's get away from the violin horrifying brother.
Speaker 1: A lot of activity, that's how it stays alive. We
Speaker 1: won't get into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really little bit. That's definitely a different show. But look,
Speaker 3: there is but there is an oligarchy that is a
Speaker 3: sub a subsistent oligarchy to what we have I contend
Speaker 3: in America and now be peat and I disagree on,
Speaker 3: but he must accept that there are these smaller versions
Speaker 3: of oligarchies that control things like the state of California
Speaker 3: and it's really got nothing to do with the public labels.
Speaker 3: It's got to do with the synchronized control of the resources,
Speaker 3: you know, the control of the water. You notice hardly
Speaker 3: anybody talks about water except in you know, relation to
Speaker 3: the fires. But water is still a battle going on
Speaker 3: in California where you know, it's more expensive to rent
Speaker 3: an apartment there than it is to buy, you know,
Speaker 3: three houses on the block I live on. Okay, just
Speaker 3: saying it's just the way of the world. It's an
Speaker 3: expensive piece of real estate that is under the control
Speaker 3: of a handful of families, and their political ideology isn't
Speaker 3: even relevant here. It is about control of one of
Speaker 3: the largest economies in the world. No matter what you
Speaker 3: think of California and their politics, or how much you
Speaker 3: think San Francisco has taken over this eight it is
Speaker 3: about that. That is the bottom line. But in the meantime,
Speaker 3: not just the rich people and actors who are losing
Speaker 3: their homes, which I could give it shit about, but
Speaker 3: you know, real people are dying and losing their lives
Speaker 3: who just happen to be unlucky enough to be born
Speaker 3: or end up landing in California for one reason or another.
Speaker 3: And it's not about the politics. It's about life and
Speaker 3: death and about how people are getting swept under the rug,
Speaker 3: and how the corporate arms of some of these oligarchy
Speaker 3: mini oligarchy, if you will, that control this huge economy
Speaker 3: that could be a separate nation on this planet easily, economically, logistically,
Speaker 3: I mean, in a lot of ways, California could be
Speaker 3: its own country.
Speaker 1: That's still bigger than most countries in Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, we're bigger than all countries in Europe,
Speaker 2: but we would be a good proportion of Europe. So
Speaker 2: we're a big state with a strong economic region. We
Speaker 2: have a ton of natural resources, not just our son, y'all.
Speaker 2: We don't all live on the bays. But this is
Speaker 2: a very rich state in so many ways. It's just
Speaker 2: the politicians.
Speaker 3: There's agriculture, there is real estate. There, there is industries,
Speaker 3: you know, well beyond Hollywood, there's industries in California, whole
Speaker 3: industries that exist primarily in California. It is an entity
Speaker 3: on to itself, and indeed it has been built to
Speaker 3: serve a select number of families, a small grouping, and
Speaker 3: that's the reality. So people want to piss and moan
Speaker 3: about Oh, it's progressive and this and that. I think
Speaker 3: you're missing the boat. The real problem here is that
Speaker 3: you're looking at the smaller version of the oligarchy, which
Speaker 3: is taking a new hold in the United States right
Speaker 3: now as we speak. I think that people that used
Speaker 3: to fear the technocracy have forgotten all about it. They've
Speaker 3: gone into the memory hole and they no longer worry
Speaker 3: about the technocracy. They don't care. It's not just about
Speaker 3: social media control, folks. I'm telling you that every aspect
Speaker 3: of your life is being invaded by the technocracy and
Speaker 3: now there is a green light in place. And it's
Speaker 3: not just about Trump. Trump is just a symptom. He's
Speaker 3: a symptom. This is the guy they needed to put
Speaker 3: you on musk in an unelected place in our government
Speaker 3: to have control over things. Wait and see. This is
Speaker 3: gonna be a wild ride. And I'm telling you this.
Speaker 3: I'm actually optimistic. Nature boy. I want to say this
Speaker 3: because I know b Pete's got something to say right
Speaker 3: now and I want to get it out. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm actually optimistic, and here's my optimism. I think that
Speaker 3: ineptitude is going to rear its ugly head. People think
Speaker 3: they can do certain things. It's just like when you
Speaker 3: see a new manager come into a place where you work,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't know how your workplace works exactly. He's
Speaker 3: got grand ideas, he's gonna turn things over, he's gonna
Speaker 3: make this this, but he doesn't know what you actually do.
Speaker 3: He says, we're gonna start making brand new revolutionary food,
Speaker 3: and somebody turns around and tells them, what, we only
Speaker 3: make the packaging here. You know, that's the thing that's
Speaker 3: gonna start happening. People are gonna think, oh, I can
Speaker 3: just turn around and direct these resources from this agency
Speaker 3: or that agency, and we're gonna get this done right
Speaker 3: away because I ordered it, And somebody's going to have
Speaker 3: to explain to them that agency doesn't have that ability.
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's going to be an aptitude
Speaker 3: combined with a brand new accidental transparency. We're going to
Speaker 3: start to see how things work. Because nobody's worried about
Speaker 3: I'm gonna suffer a consequence. I'm gonna go to prison
Speaker 3: for any of this. I'm gonna have to deal with
Speaker 3: the moral implications of Actually, my action's got a lot
Speaker 3: of people killed. Even though it's more profitable. People are
Speaker 3: going to see these things that have their eyes open,
Speaker 3: and people that have their eyes close today are not
Speaker 3: going to open them In the next ten years. We're
Speaker 3: going to go along and a lot of things are
Speaker 3: simply not going to change because people don't really know
Speaker 3: how they work, not just the public, but now some
Speaker 3: of the people in these positions, like Elon Musk turned
Speaker 3: around and said, well, we're gonna cut two trillion dollars
Speaker 3: right out of the budget. As soon as he got
Speaker 3: to look at some of the paperwork, he said, well,
Speaker 3: maybe it'll be more like a trillion.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Our friend Trump said I'm gonna cut the price on
Speaker 3: bacon eggs. I mean basically, he said, your breakfast is
Speaker 3: going to be cheap.
Speaker 2: Now, your fuck is a federal government of president going
Speaker 2: to go into a private company and do what price fixing?
Speaker 2: But it's Matt Well, that works out, boy, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Well of the Republicans always sorry, I don't mean.
Speaker 3: Well, he could do that. He could do that, and
Speaker 3: John F. Kennedy tried it too, but go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he was going to bring your He was gonna
Speaker 3: bring your you know, absolutely nutritionally balanced breakfast to your
Speaker 3: table for cheap right, because he was bringing bacon, eggs
Speaker 3: and bread. He was gonna bring the prices down. He
Speaker 3: gets in there and he goes, maybe I.
Speaker 1: Can't do that.
Speaker 2: Look, the thing we can do that is if he
Speaker 2: wouldn't be deluding our dollar by printing trillions and trillions
Speaker 2: and trillions of dollars because our inflation we're.
Speaker 1: Suffering right now.
Speaker 2: He blames on an old, sleepy, creepy junkle uncle Joe,
Speaker 2: the potential pedophile, Ashley Babbist, Ashley Biden's diaries and me talking.
Speaker 2: But but it was the Cares Act, those two things,
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before. It was the tax cut,
Speaker 2: which was a huge transfer of wealth to the to
Speaker 2: the rich. But the biggest thing was the Cares Act
Speaker 2: when they just started printing money like like a drunk
Speaker 2: rap star at a strip joint. And what that did
Speaker 2: is that deluted the value of the dollar, and sleep
Speaker 2: creepy uncle Joe came in and just continued it. Plus
Speaker 2: he put a little bit more out there to a landscape,
Speaker 2: probably a few kilos of coke here and there, and
Speaker 2: it's eroding. So it gets me with Paulas and people
Speaker 2: that are partisan, they don't understand how politics or the
Speaker 2: world works. They only understand what they're being told on
Speaker 2: that day. The narrative or the distraction, the jours all
Speaker 2: they understand.
Speaker 1: And it drives me. That's talking to these people, whether they're.
Speaker 2: I'm a Fox News god, John Hannity is my idol,
Speaker 2: or it's a oh mpr, I am so intelligent. Don't
Speaker 2: you tell me anything that contradicts the nightly news salary
Speaker 2: you can speak. I'm like you are all left in
Speaker 2: the head because you don't know how the world or
Speaker 2: how power works. Now, I'm no genius. I never have
Speaker 2: said I'm the genius, or I never will say I'm
Speaker 2: an expert. But darning, even me, a regular Joe with
Speaker 2: an above average IQ, can see this as plain as day.
Speaker 2: So it's very frustrating for me to have this vision,
Speaker 2: to have this discernment, walking around a bunch of MPCs
Speaker 2: telling me how to live my life and calling saying I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what I'm talking about. Oh that was a rant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, you're a conspiracy theory. No, don't apologize,
Speaker 3: you're a conspiracy theorist. It's okay, you'll get over it.
Speaker 1: It look foil hat I need to put, you know
Speaker 1: I need to do.
Speaker 2: I think I need to make a make a tinfoil
Speaker 2: hat for mister Pigley Wiggly back there, Yes, dear kin
Speaker 2: hitting that opium pipe.
Speaker 3: I say, what you do is actually, uh, nature Boy,
Speaker 3: I have a great idea for you. And I thought
Speaker 3: about this about six months ago, but I got sick
Speaker 3: and I didn't get a chance to tell you about it.
Speaker 3: I think what you need to do is create an
Speaker 3: instructional video for how to make your official Nature Boy
Speaker 3: tinfoil hat, and you give instructions and you put it
Speaker 3: behind it, you know, on Pigley Wiggly back there, and
Speaker 3: you say, look, this is how you make your own
Speaker 3: and that's the way we need to go from now on.
Speaker 3: Make your own tinfoil hats. Damn it. Don't wait for
Speaker 3: the federal government to mail you one.
Speaker 2: Now, No, screw the federal And you know what, they're
Speaker 2: probably going to have spy tech in your tinfoil so
Speaker 2: you're better off getting rentals wrapped making your sight. That's right,
Speaker 2: the government spying on you. That's they've got things there,
Speaker 2: probably up your button.
Speaker 1: You don't even know it.
Speaker 3: But the beauty far too loud. Oh no, never do that.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, the beauty of what's about to happen.
Speaker 3: Like I said, my optimism comes from this. I spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time as a kid around criminals and
Speaker 3: organized criminals who would put things together and make things
Speaker 3: work and become so brazen that they didn't have to
Speaker 3: worry if the cops saw them. They didn't have to
Speaker 3: worry if people in the neighborhood saw them, because people
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood were on their side. They gave them
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving turkeys. Baby, that's a real thing. By the way,
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving turkeys. Some people think that's just a Hollywood creation. No,
Speaker 3: that's a real thing in neighborhoods in Jersey and New York.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the rest of the country, but
Speaker 3: I'm telling you now, a real gangster gives out Thanksgiving turkeys,
Speaker 3: I assure you anyway, and Christmas presents. They are great
Speaker 3: guys like this. But look they do that. They buy
Speaker 3: the neighborhood with that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: John Gotta used to do fireworks displays on his block.
Speaker 3: Even though fireworks were legal in New York. Nobody bothered them.
Speaker 1: It used to be.
Speaker 3: It used to be anyways, until it was time for
Speaker 3: Rudy to only take down certain, you know, elements of
Speaker 3: the Commission and leave other elements of the commission alone.
Speaker 3: But that's a story for another show anyway, you know.
Speaker 3: But God, he used to do stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: here's the thing. He didn't worry about the cops seeing
Speaker 3: him walking around with twenty thirty thousand dollars in his pocket,
Speaker 3: even though on paper he was just a guy who
Speaker 3: worked in a dress factory. Right, It's okay, no problem,
Speaker 3: because those people were paid off, the government was paid off.
Speaker 3: You didn't worry about it. Now, once these guys get
Speaker 3: into that kind of position, they begin to act like
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the world sees. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: if people know my business, because nobody's going to bother me.
Speaker 3: The great thing about the current situation, with the technocrats
Speaker 3: coming in, that's who I'm worried about. That's the part
Speaker 3: of I'm worried about the technocrats. By the way, with
Speaker 3: the technocrats coming in, they no longer have a need
Speaker 3: to hide what it is they're doing because they're endorsed
Speaker 3: by the President himself. The Democrats are rolling over. They're
Speaker 3: going to just form circular firing squads. Whenever they're called upon,
Speaker 3: they're going to do nothing as per usual. The Republicans
Speaker 3: are going to do their same. You know, look what's
Speaker 3: shaky head lady's name who always says she's going to
Speaker 3: vote against somebody and then doesn't whatever. They're going to
Speaker 3: do that dance. I'm outraged, but I have to vote
Speaker 3: for this guy. That's the way it's going to go.
Speaker 3: It's going to play out except one thing. They no
Speaker 3: longer have to feign innocence.
Speaker 1: So no, no. It reminds me of jin Hu.
Speaker 3: Larry Nichols is the name is familiar, but refresh me.
Speaker 1: He was Clinton insider.
Speaker 2: He was part of the Clinton milieu back in the
Speaker 2: Arkansas days, right. And there was an interview that he
Speaker 2: had got a well over a decade ago with old
Speaker 2: AJ and it kind of went like this. It was
Speaker 2: about the Clintons. Says, you know the good news about
Speaker 2: the Clintons. Alex says, they're lying to you. It means
Speaker 2: they ain't got their act together yet because.
Speaker 1: They have to lie.
Speaker 2: He says, the moment that you need to worry, so
Speaker 2: when they start telling you the truth. And now we're
Speaker 2: starting to see them tell us the truth is. I
Speaker 2: think that's what you're alluding to. What I'm seeing the Technocrack.
Speaker 2: Let's look at who Orange Jesus is surrounding them by.
Speaker 2: It is the Techno, the Techno and Builderberg bro group.
Speaker 2: Now let's break it down the Builderberg all right, Well,
Speaker 2: Kushner is a member, his son in law, and so
Speaker 2: it's Pompeo while Pompeo and Kushner went to the Builderberg
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. That was the final thing that says, yeah,
Speaker 2: Trump ain't about America. First, he's all in on the game.
Speaker 2: He's just playing his role.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Pompeo's on the outs, remember now, because they
Speaker 3: took away his Secret Service protection and everything. Now, so
Speaker 3: you know he's being.
Speaker 1: Hung out to dry. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can hire his own private stuff. That's stalk
Speaker 2: part of the game, of course. You know, let's look
Speaker 2: at the current administration. Old JD, desecrated couchboy guyliner Dabe.
Speaker 1: He's a member who's been to several meetings. Now let's
Speaker 1: look at his big Oh you.
Speaker 3: Mean JJD who was supposed to be a hillbilly but
Speaker 3: wasn't really but definitely asked his hillbilly grandma if he
Speaker 3: was gay, and she said, uh, you know, do you like.
Speaker 2: To do this?
Speaker 3: And maybe you ain't. Well, God's gonna love you anyway.
Speaker 3: I wonder who wrote that story in reality, because I
Speaker 3: wanted to meet that author.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, and Daddy will too, if some of
Speaker 1: the hillbillies.
Speaker 2: But and then let's look at his major funder, the
Speaker 2: big giant money tit mister Peter Thiel. Is he a
Speaker 2: member right, people? He is on the steering committee of
Speaker 2: the Builderberg Group, the belly of the beast, of the
Speaker 2: belly of the beast. He is so far down in
Speaker 2: that belly he could tickle the sphinxter the anus of
Speaker 2: that global cabald now.
Speaker 3: And also, don't forget the guy who is behind many
Speaker 3: of the digital transactions that make up the majority of
Speaker 3: business done in the little people's world, just saying deal
Speaker 3: is behind it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 2: When I hear him say, well, we're gonna make America
Speaker 2: great again, this is where globalism comes to da. I know,
Speaker 2: it's all the giant con Getting back to what we
Speaker 2: were talking about. On a micro level of California, we
Speaker 2: have that consolidation of people on a small olive arch.
Speaker 3: Oh and don't forget to buy your crypto as you
Speaker 3: go to by the way, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah.
Speaker 2: Don't you started on that social conditioning a long time
Speaker 2: ago to get acquainted to a digital currency.
Speaker 3: That'll be We're already there. We're already there. I love this.
Speaker 3: You know, people go, they're gonna stop printing money. I'm like,
Speaker 3: have you read the reports from the mint because we
Speaker 3: stopped already. Yeah, anyway, but please continue.
Speaker 1: I think I'm done with.
Speaker 6: That for rant.
Speaker 2: And by the way, gentlemen, we're almost on an hour
Speaker 2: and forty five. Generally I run this show thirty food.
Speaker 3: So I'm a loud mouth. My apologies. Please turn it
Speaker 3: over to be Pete.
Speaker 1: To make my job easy.
Speaker 2: I can just sit back here, take a couple of
Speaker 2: SIPs with near wind, chew up, and just turn it
Speaker 2: on mute way so you get me and b Pete.
Speaker 3: And you know that's the point of our Friday night
Speaker 3: calling shows, which we do at ochilly dot com. Just
Speaker 3: real quick. If you call in, you can join us
Speaker 3: anytime three one nine five two seven five zero one
Speaker 3: six when we are live on Friday nights. You can
Speaker 3: join us that way or buy a skype and guess what,
Speaker 3: you guys get to throw the topic in the hopper
Speaker 3: and me and be Pete, Mike bouncing around, or other
Speaker 3: guys on the call might bouncing around, or even this
Speaker 3: nut job who shows up with us once in a
Speaker 3: while Nature Boy could show up on the skype with
Speaker 3: that smooth, silky voice and blow out your ear drums, baby,
Speaker 3: and it's great. So join us on Friday nights, Me
Speaker 3: and be Pete.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 3: That's the point of us being here, really is. I
Speaker 3: want to let your listeners know that there's an open
Speaker 3: four and they can actually drive the conversation on there
Speaker 3: if they so choose. So I'm sorry, go ahead, man,
Speaker 3: I know we've gone deep.
Speaker 1: And along all this for all the viewers. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be butt hurt if you went to.
Speaker 2: His show on a Friday night occasionally instead of coming
Speaker 2: to my show.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I got to get some listeners. I mean,
Speaker 1: my eight listeners ain't gonna support me at all.
Speaker 3: I come on, they can always they can always hear you,
Speaker 3: and they can always hear you on my network, on TNP,
Speaker 3: on your own Rumble channel. They can always hear you later,
Speaker 3: you know, switch back and forth some weeks join us,
Speaker 3: some weeks join you know, Nature Boy. Maybe you want
Speaker 3: the smoother boys, maybe you want the annoying earworm that
Speaker 3: is Me and be Pete And you know, look, you
Speaker 3: can just go back and forth Flavor of the week
Speaker 3: for you folks. How about that? So and there's always
Speaker 3: something different happening on both shows, So guarantee you whatever
Speaker 3: you know, Nature Boy's covering like you had Jessica Rozan
Speaker 3: not too long ago. That was great. I the first
Speaker 3: show that beat that Nature Boy and I did together
Speaker 3: when he was producing for me that was a huge
Speaker 3: hit was with Jessica Rose. And she's always great. So
Speaker 3: you know, you can always go back in his archives
Speaker 3: or mine. I'm available on speaker and through most podcasters
Speaker 3: as well. And so with that, I'm going to shut
Speaker 3: up now and let you close out your show. I
Speaker 3: think that's what you're about to do.
Speaker 7: The one thing I have to say is be by
Speaker 7: for the podcast, guys, Nature Boy or Chilly, visit the
Speaker 7: Dark Side, visit the Light Side, but just visit damn it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I can be found every Friday nights as well
Speaker 2: as the o'kelli effect call in shows. Mine starts at
Speaker 2: five pm Pacific eight pm Eastern, which I believe is
Speaker 2: the same time as your Friday night calling show, the.
Speaker 3: Same time slot as my call in show. And immediately
Speaker 3: following that, say you want to do Nature Boy one
Speaker 3: week and you want to come over and check out
Speaker 3: what's live at o'celly dot com is the Age of
Speaker 3: Transitions with Aaron Franz just saying.
Speaker 2: And speaking of transhumanism. What we're seeing here. He is
Speaker 2: the master of transhumanism.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think he even wrote something called the what do
Speaker 2: they call those things with like paper and text on it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's a I know it's an outmoded
Speaker 3: uh you know, uh, a way of communicating. But there's
Speaker 3: this little thing called a book, and he wrote a
Speaker 3: book called Revolve Man's Scientific Rise to Godhood. And also
Speaker 3: after he does an hour of the Age of Transitions
Speaker 3: live on o'celly dot com all the way up to
Speaker 3: midnight Eastern, you know, from eleven to midnight, we also
Speaker 3: do Uncle the podcast live and that is a completely
Speaker 3: different entity onto itself, where you go into the world
Speaker 3: of the host Uncle uh, and his world is different.
Speaker 3: He's a mentally handicapped guy. I don't mind advertising that upfront,
Speaker 3: and you are in his world when you join Uncle
Speaker 3: the podcast, which you can also call into or skype
Speaker 3: into and join in on the fun. Anyway. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to get all the plugs out there, Nature Boy,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: Further plug away like p Diddy with the case of
Speaker 1: baby oil. We won't go there.
Speaker 2: I'm a sick, twisted mind. But this is why I
Speaker 2: have my own podcasts. If people don't like what they hear.
Speaker 1: Everything b peep or don't let don't let the door
Speaker 1: hit you with the good Lord splits it.
Speaker 3: But absolutely, Hey b Pete, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 3: this being the first time that you joined in as
Speaker 3: a guest on one of these podcasts, and we did
Speaker 3: it with an old friend. What are your thoughts here
Speaker 3: that you want to give to nature Boy? Because I
Speaker 3: know I've taken up way too much airtime as usual,
Speaker 3: but I want to know what your thoughts are.
Speaker 6: Oh, I've had blasts. I mean I enjoy talking Nature Boy.
Speaker 6: We've been able to you know, back when he was
Speaker 6: on the show. We were you know, we carry on
Speaker 6: a conversation on our own if something came along, you know,
Speaker 6: we didn't need extra help. We could talk about any
Speaker 6: subject in the world. So you know, congratulations, and I
Speaker 6: hope this thing fans out for you and really turns
Speaker 6: and Chuck and I are welcome, you know, to come
Speaker 6: back anytime you need us just to fill a gap.
Speaker 6: If you get bored one night you want to fill
Speaker 6: it full of continuous blather, we can flip the bill.
Speaker 6: We do it every Friday night.
Speaker 3: We can definitely fill air. And the thing is, you're
Speaker 3: also openly invited anytime you don't feel like doing your
Speaker 3: show on a Friday and you want to join in
Speaker 3: with us and be part of the mayhem. It is
Speaker 3: an open invitation for you, bro. And uh, you know,
Speaker 3: not everybody I used to work with has an open invitation,
Speaker 3: but you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to figure out a way to do
Speaker 1: a swimp cast between both shows.
Speaker 2: Your callers all have an open caller and let's put
Speaker 2: it heads together, see if we can figure that out,
Speaker 2: because that would be fun.
Speaker 6: Short out the way. We can do a joint naked
Speaker 6: news session.
Speaker 2: We can, we can we can have a dual naked
Speaker 2: news session that could be a thing, Pete, and then
Speaker 2: we'll have the Nature Boys segment afterwards.
Speaker 3: How about this a weekly drop in during the nine
Speaker 3: o'clock hour where both shows combined for say twenty minutes
Speaker 3: to do naked news. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: That's something that definitely has to go on the burner
Speaker 1: cap if you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: All right, you need to be thinking about that will
Speaker 2: get my wheels spinning, you know, I mean, I have
Speaker 2: a problem solver, especially as if a reduction end. I
Speaker 2: had something stuck in my head and it ain't leaving this.
Speaker 2: It becomes personal in my.
Speaker 3: Head exactly, And I urge people to continue a living,
Speaker 3: and I urge people one thing.
Speaker 6: Well, what we'll have to do list. I will work
Speaker 6: on this. But now that we know that our favorite
Speaker 6: naked news guy is, you know, cooling his heels in
Speaker 6: the North Carolina correctional system, maybe we can make him
Speaker 6: a pen pal and somehow either get some correspondence to
Speaker 6: him or get him on the show and let him
Speaker 6: know that he started, you know, this little trend here
Speaker 6: between two different podcasts of naked News.
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody can sneak on me. Maybe someone can sneak
Speaker 1: him in his cell phone in their prison purse.
Speaker 3: Well, I know they can, I know they can, you know,
Speaker 3: reach in Georgia. The mob got busted working with the
Speaker 3: bloods of all people on a cell phone sneaking network
Speaker 3: into the prisons here in Georgia, So I know it's possible.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is, you know, maybe he can
Speaker 3: tell I don't know what the policy is in North
Speaker 3: Carolina jails, b Pete. Maybe you'd know better just because
Speaker 3: you live there. I mean I only lived there for
Speaker 3: a couple of months back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 6: Was that I have been at a couple of them.
Speaker 6: I can tell you exactly about specific ones, but I'm
Speaker 6: certain right now just to see where James or John
Speaker 6: was his name?
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it is, original naked car There you go,
Speaker 3: the original, the original subject of naked News. I think
Speaker 3: we should find out what the phone call policy is
Speaker 3: in the prison, and maybe we can accept a collect
Speaker 3: call or make a call to him while he's incarcerated
Speaker 3: and get him live on the show. That would be
Speaker 3: worthy of a swapcast right there.
Speaker 1: Right, work on that and find that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're coming up on an hour fifty four and
Speaker 2: for timesake, because my podcast on ochelly dot com and
Speaker 2: Freeworld dot fm is two hours to the dot, so
Speaker 2: I can be under a little bit, but I can't
Speaker 2: be over and we're at one minute fifty four dot
Speaker 2: thirty eight forty seconds, So let's put a forking this.
Speaker 2: Everybody out there, thanks for tuning in. You know, it's
Speaker 2: you that made the show what it is. It's you
Speaker 2: that keeps the show growing. I love you, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Please keep telling everybody about the show, keep sharing it.
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Speaker 2: Twitter's playing with me.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: There's two times that I hit these listener levels.
Speaker 2: The first one was ironically at four to twenty and
Speaker 2: forever I would get a couple above four twenty below it.
Speaker 1: You know, just stay at that level over and over.
Speaker 1: I mean, god knows how long.
Speaker 2: Then once I got up over that hump, then starting
Speaker 2: to get new engagements, I'm at that same point again.
Speaker 2: I've been there for almost a month, and that is
Speaker 2: breaking the six hundred subscriber level. I was right at
Speaker 2: five to ninety up over and over. I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I might get to six hundred.
Speaker 1: So do me a favor. Go out to NBN dot
Speaker 1: Nature Boy, the real Nature Boy. That's what entyle is.
Speaker 2: Hit that like button, hit that subscribe button, help me
Speaker 2: get over six hundred listeners. So once again, I can't
Speaker 2: thank y'all enough for taking time out of your busy
Speaker 2: schedule to come and hang out with me on a
Speaker 2: Friday night. So it's a worldwide Oh by the way,
Speaker 2: I can if you want to find out everything about.
Speaker 1: The show, go to the third Rail pot, the third
Speaker 1: Rail podcast.
Speaker 2: At Linktree, Engage me and all that. So it's a
Speaker 2: worldwide broadcast on the world where you're listening to it.
Speaker 2: It could be day, it could be night, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You'll have a good day, you'll have a good night,
Speaker 2: and we'll see you next time. Peace, And we're off
Speaker 2: the air.
Speaker 3: I gotta go produce Aaron's show, So I'm gonna bow
Speaker 3: out fast. But you know, you know what, I don't
Speaker 3: mean to drop you all right now.
Speaker 1: I got this, all right, Pete, I'll talk to you.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.