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Speaker 1: And hello, how are you on this Friday? Yesterday's the

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twelfth day of June, Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six.

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My name is Tom Sullivan. We got a lot to

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go over today, I mean it all. It's still kind

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of reverberating from what went down yesterday. And what went

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down yesterday was the big switcheroo where the President was

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going to declare it in the morning that he was

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going to be really hitting Iron hard with bombs, military strikes,

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and by the afternoon he says, nevermind, No, that's canceled.

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We've got ourselves in an agreement. And it was a

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real head snap to kind of go what And the

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other problem with is that the President has on numerous

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occasions said oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're really close, and

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never turns out to be the case. So we'll cover

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that today. We've also got the FISA renewal section seven

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oh two, where we can spy on foreigners supposedly. I

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will get into that. And the biggest IPO initial public

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offering stock offering ever happened today. SpaceX went public one

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point seven almost one point eight trillion dollars of a

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public offering, and that makes Elon Musk the first trillionaire

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in the world. So we've got all that to cover today,

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but let's start with all the questions about this agreement

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and what is it and what does what what does

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it encompass. It's it's a real question mark. I mean

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it's Wall Street Journal has a headline about the fact

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that the deal still has to get past the Revolutionary Guard,

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that the hardline security officials are more concerned with denying

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us a victory than withinding the war, and so the

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i RGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has yet to

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sign off on this preliminary deal, so it's not done.

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But the President has said that tomorrow or over the weekend,

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probably Sunday, that Vice President Jeddie Vance is going to

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be going to didn't say where, but the word is

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that it's going to It's scheduled for Geneva on Sunday

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for a signing ceremony.

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Speaker 2: It will officially open as soon as we sign which

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could be soon, very soon, maybe over the weekend, and

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you'repe I will be able to be there, but JD

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will be there Vice President and some of the people, Yeah,

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Steve Woodcuff did a great job, Jared, Why.

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Speaker 3: Are you so convinced that this time is different.

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Speaker 2: Because they've taken a pounding. They've taken a pounding like

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very few people could take, and they want to make

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the deal a lot more than I do. And we

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could have had it done the other way, I guess,

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but it would have taken longer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So he's saying that the spray of horror moves

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will open when this deal is signed, and that JD.

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Vance is going to sign it this weekend. The word

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again is Geneva on Sunday, so that will be the

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first test to see. All right, if it's open, then

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let's see what happens with the shipping that's going in

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and out of the straight or war moves. General Jack Keane,

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you know what he has been professing. He wanted he

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wanted the military to finish their mission. The President cuts

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that short. So he would still like to see a

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military solution, but he knows that you've got to say

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yes to the commanding officer, and that is the commander

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in chief.

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Speaker 4: No, well, I think it remains to be seen where

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we are. I mean, you can tell from Iran. I

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mean that the comments are always inconsistent when it comes

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to a deal. You got people saying they're complying. You

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have other people in the government saying they're not. So

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it's going to take some time to ferret out what

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we really have here. But listen, we're not at this

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point without the military operation that President Trump ordered. He

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knew he wasn't making much progress with these guys, and

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two nights a military operation with the promise of more

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to come, I certainly gave them added leverage. And I

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think as we go forward, we're in early stages here.

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Remember it's taken us two months to get here after

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the ceasefire when the Iranians said they were going to

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negotiate the opening of the Straits of a Moves in

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two weeks. So we have to have some patience in

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what we're dealing with here, and we have to be

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very clear right about what's happening, because what the Iranians

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say and what they do are two different things. Witness

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the violation of the ceasefire as you just mentioned last night,

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and how much of that they have been violating for

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weeks in the Straits of a Moves attacking US spaces,

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and what they've done in unleashing Hesbalah in Lebanon is incredible.

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Under the guise of a ceasefire, two thousand plus rockets

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and drones fired into northern Israel force in the evacuation

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of the towns. And by the way, while we're on

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that subject, I hope we can work into this deal

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and exclusion so that Israel can still deal with Hesbela.

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The major lesson learned from nine to eleven was we

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cannot permit our adversaries to have sanctuaries from where they

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can attack us again, and that was enforced in Iraq

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and Syria and also in Eastern Africa. The reality coming

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out of October seventh is you cannot have proxies on

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the border with the capability to attack Israel again. And

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that's what Hesbela has right now in Lebanon, and they

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should not be a part of this cease fire. Israel

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has got to be able to deal with that capability.

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Speaker 3: On its border.

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Speaker 4: Why because under a cease fire, what happens Hesbela continues

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to attack. That's what we have seen. But going forward

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here the administration is clear eyed and who they're dealing

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with here. They know these guys lie and they know

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they cheat, and listen what Iran wants here is they

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want to get money so that they can recover their regime,

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and believing no matter what they sign as a final deal,

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at some point they will do everything they can to

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reverse it. That is who they are, and that is

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predictable negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Know that.

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Speaker 4: So what we have to bake into the deal is

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the prevention of their ability to reverse a deal post

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Trump presidency. That's where we got to be if we're

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going to have something that's enduring here.

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Speaker 1: Well, he clearly wants the military, the military status solved.

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The problem with the military would be to take the

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regime out. And we're doing a business with people that

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lie in sheet according to the General others, and you

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can't trust them. So I don't know why we're even

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signing an agreement with them. You want to put together

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a betting pool on how long it will be before

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whatever agreement is signed is broken. The agreement into the

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President is three different buckets. The first bucket is the

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straight of Ormus that it must reopen immediately without any tolls,

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that it will return to pre war shipping volumes within

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thirty days, that the US blockade is lifted, and that

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Iran receives temporary sanctioned waivers to sell oil for sixty days. Huh.

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So they're going to get a waiver, just a temporary

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one though, for sixty days. Then the second bucket is

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the ceasefire, that this agreement will extend the ceasefire that

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supposedly has been Now we haven't that the ceasefire has

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died weeks ago, but they're still pretending that there's a ceasefire.

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So this agreement will extend the ceasefire for sixty days,

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including in Lebanon, where nuclear negotiations are held. So they're

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going to tie up Israel and say you can't you

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can't have any firing back and forth with hisbe Lah.

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And then the third bucket is the nuclear program, and

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what the agreement is simply a framework for addressing the

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enriched uranium stockpile in Iran. And so all this agreement,

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if it gets signed over the weekend, all it does

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is open up yet another sixty days of negotiating, which

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is what we've been going through and calling it a ceasefire.

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So I don't know. General Keen basically said that this

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deal is where we are because there's people that don't

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a lack of spine, and then that's the

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truth of it. Except for the UAE, they're all in.

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And the reason is pretty simple. They fear Iran. Ever

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since the Straits of Moves got closed. They feel there's

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some obligation there with Iran going down the road. And

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the second thing they fear is Iran's ability to retaliate

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against the oil and gas infrastructure. Despite the fact if

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you gave Admiral Cooper and Senmcom the mission to help

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defend them like they are doing with Israel, because they

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asked to help to be defended, we could do that,

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and we could take away their missiles and drones that

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they use. I mean, we've been watching where they're doing

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with both of those missiles and drones for two months now,

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and we have the capability to do that. But those

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Gulf states don't accept that. They're the ones that pressure

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the administration to shut down Project Freedom. Remember Project Freedom

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was opening up the Straits of Moves and creating a

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lane for them to pass through. And when the President

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was getting close to reattacking about ten twelve days ago,

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they also came forward and said, well, we can deal

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here the problem we have with them is ever since

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Iran's shut down the straits and moves, they fear what

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they're going to continue to do with controlling it, and

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they fear retaliation. And that is why we need the

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President to help take their fear away. We got the

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structured this deal so that it truly can be enduring,

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and it's not a vehicle just to provide a temporary solution.

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It's got to be something that lives beyond the Trump presidency.

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Speaker 1: Well, color me's skeptical, but I'll wait and see what

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this whole thing turns out to be. I'll tell you

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who is skeptical, the CIA guy, Dan Hoffman. Here's Dan Well.

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Speaker 5: I think if past is prologue, then we're looking at

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another Yogi beara Deja vu all over again scenario. There

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are three components of US leverage over Iran. The highest

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priority I think for Iran to deal with it's our

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military strikes. They're causing massive damage to Iran's weapons of

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mass destruction, not to mention decapitating their leadership. Then you've

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got sanctions and the blockade, which are of concern but

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lesser concern to the Iranians.

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Speaker 6: What we've seen so far is the.

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Speaker 5: United States has launched some strike since the ceasefire in

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early April, but we've also threatened to launch massive strikes.

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And then when the Iranians offer to negotiate, albeit with

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very hard line terms, we back off. We hold off,

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and then we negotiate until what's clear that Iran isn't

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serious about the negotiations, and we get back to the

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threats again. So the question is whether this time is

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any different. I'm quite sure that President Trump is pulsing

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the Intelligence community. Director of CIA Ratcliffe engaging with CIA

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sensitive sources to determine what's really going on in Tehran.

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If you listen to their foreign ministry, they are making

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maximalist demands that I think would not be agreeable to

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the Trump administry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still so much to learn about this deal.

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But dan Hofman also pointed out that we could have

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taken out the regime, but we decided to go the

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diplomatic rome.

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Speaker 5: Well, one way we could have done it was when

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we had our boots on their throats back in early April,

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we went to the ceasefire route. There were many who

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argued that we should have just simply finished the job

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and led to regime change. Real regime change rather than

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the current regime. We have in power, these IRGC hardliners,

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whom we all agree we can't trust. We have to

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be careful about not giving up any of the leverage

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we have. We can't give Iran any sanctions relief or

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or stop the blockade, or I believe, stop the milit

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the risk the threat of military strikes unless we get

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exactly what we want with verifiable with some verifiable means

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that Iran is sticking to the deal. That means inspections,

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That means getting the highly enriched uranium out of you,

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out of Iran. And remember too, hanging over all of

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this is the JCPOA from which the Trump administration withdrew

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in the first administration. We need to get a better

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deal for all the blood and treasure we've spilled. We

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need to be getting a better deal than that.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, jc P away, the Obama deal, whatever you

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want to call it. They kicked the can down the

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road and deferred it to somebody else. So here lands

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in Donald Trump's lap, and so he thinks, so okay,

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I'll solve this. But he did not have the stomach

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to go ahead and get the regime out of there.

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He stopped the military and there's Dan Hoffman saying, we

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could have taken them out, but we did not. And

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now President Trump is all worried about the fact that

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his deal is not going to be much better, if

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at all, then the Obama deal, and that would drive

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him crazy. But I'm telling you this from where I

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sit watching what's going on and reading everything I can

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about the negotiations and the proposed deal. This is also

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kicking the can down the road to somebody else. They

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are going to violate whatever it is that we sign

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with them, and it will just create a problem down

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the road. David Rhade, reporter, NBC. He's also looking at

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this as just a bunch of people spinning.

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Speaker 7: Both sides are spinning to make a long story short.

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to a diplomat in the region who's got knowledge of

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some of the negotiations. They pointed to sort of the

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American version of the deal. This is a diplomat very

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close to the US, which is largely what was reported

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in by Barockravin and Oxios, which talks about some sort

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of deal and the nuclear things. The important thing here, though,

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is that there's a completely different version that's come out

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from the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Key issues that

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remain and resolves that the Iranians are claiming that there's

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an agreement that at least half of the twenty four

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billion in frozen assets that are on want are going

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to go back to Iran. That is politically deadly for

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President Trump. The Iranian version says they're going to reopen

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the Straight of Horror moves and it says here with

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Iranian arrangements, does that mean the Iranians still control the

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Straight of Horror moves? And then on the actually on

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the uranium that the President says, it's so important for

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the US to get hold of the enriched uranium, it's

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amazing that the axios ers in the American version says

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the president has agreed that it can be down blended

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to a lower enrichment level and stay in Iran. That

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is what was offered to the United States, if you

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believe in the Omani Foreign Minister and other sources who

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were there, that's what we were offered before the war.

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its country is a huge concession. By Trump and another reason,

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hell of a hard time selling all this. And just lastly,

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if there is a deal again, one side says it

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could be this weekend. It sounds like they're far away.

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There's fears of like a secret agreement where there's billions

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released to Iran that we don't even make public. So

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so there's more than one side to this. Obviously, the

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Iranians have their version, and it's not making President Trump happy.

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He put out a true social note earlier today says

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the terms that Iron leaked to the fake news have

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nothing to do with the terms that were agreed to

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in writing. What they said, including their weak and pathetic

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statement on having a deal, bears no relation to the truth.

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Very dishonorable people to deal with with them. There is

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no such thing as dealing in good faith. Amazing. Also,

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their totally rebuffed drone attack last night against Indian ships

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leaving the Strait of Hormuz is totally unacceptable. They better

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get their act together and fast. President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump. Yes, so supposedly we had a deal announced yesterday

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and the President said We're not going to attack last night,

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and instead Iran is attacking ships going through the Strait

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of Hormos back to David Road.

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Speaker 7: Based on what I know right now, the Iranians are

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winning these negotiations. Trump is more desperate for a deal

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than they are, period, and I think that's a fair assessment.

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Speaker 1: Hard to tell. There's no question Donald Trump is desperate

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for a deal. I don't know how desperate the Iranians are.

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I would think they would be as well, but they

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have an amazing resilience that we can pound them all

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day long and they're still going to be there. Meantime,

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the guy who has been breaking all of the stories

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on all of this has been Barack Revied over at Axios,

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and this is his latest update today.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think what the US has been told by

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the Katari mediators and the Pakistani mediators and the Iurinian

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negotiators themselves yesterday was that they're basically ready to sign.

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That was the message that the White House got, and

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preparations started for a possible signing ceremony during the weekend.

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For example, for User Force C, seventeen planes left to

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Washington yesterday to Europe as an advance for possible trip

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by Vice President Vans to Geneva to sign this agreement

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with the Speaker of the Iranian On Muhammad Baker Caliba.

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But I think what happened in the recent hours is

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what happened several times during those negotiations that every time

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with the parties were close to a deal, each side

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wanted to market the deal to its own domestic audience.

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And when you do that, then each side, obviously, you know,

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gives the deal its own spin, emphasizes the things that

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it's going to get, and downplays things that it's going

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to give. And I think that's again what happened today

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when the Rania presented their narrative or their spin on

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what has been agreed, and President Trump pushed back and

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presented him and White House officials presented their narrative about

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what has been agreed. And I think it's not totally different.

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But I think each side just emphasizes what it is

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getting from a deal and not really talking about what

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it is giving in this deal.

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Speaker 1: Which is exactly what David Rhoad said, that both sides

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are spinning and they will give us the shiny part

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and try and hide the part that we're given up

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back to Barack Revie.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure because I think even though President Trump

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ordered new strikes in recent days, all of them were

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still below the threshold of an all out war. I'm

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not saying it can't happen. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamina Tanyau

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definitely wants this war to resume because he doesn't believe

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the Iranians, and he thinks that the regime needs to

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be weakened even more. But I think that at least

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at the moment, even though Trump just you know, posted

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this very angry response to the Iranians, my sense from

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talking to people that are involved in the negotiations on

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the US side is that they still want to see

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if they can get to sign this agreement over the weekend.

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I still hear the same thing from the different mediators.

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So it might all collapse. We might seeing at the

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moment how this thing is collapsing, but it might be,

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you know, one of those hicca that you have before

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you you get to a deal.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what he said that net and Yahoo

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wants to keep the war going because he doesn't believe

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anything the Iranians say, and the Iranians keep saying death

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to Israel, so he wants to keep the war going.

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So obviously the split between Benjamin Net and Yahoo and

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Donald Trump is fully on display. That's just well, here,

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let me go back to Barack revied for two things.

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One about the President talking about wanting to take Carga Island,

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although the oil experts say that would not have any

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impact on Iran whatsoever. And the other part is about

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the fact that it's kind of like when you were

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a teenager you just didn't tell your parents what you

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were doing. Is it's kind of what Donald Trump did

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not tell Benjamin Net and Yahoo that he has an

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agreement with the Iranians, has some sort of well, he

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said the war was over, and he didn't want to

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say that to Benjamin Nette Yahoo. So, first of.

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Speaker 3: About carg Island, I have to say, I find that

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at least at the moment, you know, things change all

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the time and very quickly. I don't do not sense

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that there's either an appetite or a real operational plan

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imminent operational plan to do anything on carg Island. I

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just I have no information that shows that this is

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where Trump really wanted to go, and it is true

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that Nataniao learned about Trump's post yesterday announcing that there's

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a deal from social media when he was sitting with

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his security chief and one of his advisors came into

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the room and told him that while they were discussing,

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saying about what is the what are the potential US

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strikes that were going to happen several hours later, all

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of a sudden, one of his advisers came in and said, well,

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there are no strikes. There's actually a deal, according to

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what President Trump just posted. And the US did not

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notify Nataniao in advance of this post. And I think

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that in the phone call from what I heard from

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US officials about a phone call Nataniao and Trump had

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several hours later, Nataniao was very each sort of told

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the president that you know, he understands that there's a

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deal and nothing nothing he could do. I'm sure that

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if if Primaris Nataniao read President Trump's post for a

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few minutes ago, his mood improved significantly.

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Speaker 1: Really, what I mean that Yahoo, What what could he do?

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He was relying upon is real relies upon the United

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States matters like this, and then when the United States

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goes a different direction. They're stuck. Nothing they can do,

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all right. Another deal that has not happened is the

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extension of FISA. This is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

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It's the law that establishes procedures for surveillance and collection

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of foreign intelligence information. It was put into law in

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nineteen seventy eight. It governs the conduct of the US

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government's surveillance on foreign powers. It's used to try to

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figure out where the threats are coming from, a terrorist

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and so forth, and so this is very very important.

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It is, however, very controversial because in trying to grab

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information with phone calls and emails and things between terrorists

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and other contries, if they're talking to or emailing or

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connecting or texting or whatever with US citizens, the US

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citizen gets caught up in it as well. So this

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thing is expected to expire at midnight tonight, and it's

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supposed to be somewhat bipartisan, but it's not. And what

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happened was everybody was going along saying, let's go ahead

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and agree to this. The Senate Intelligence Committee and the

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House Intelligence Committee. We're getting down to the final dotting

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of the i's and crossing the t's on extending the

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FISA seven zero two rule, and instead the President decided

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to announce that he was putting Bill Poulty in as

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the acting director of the Director of National Intelligence, and

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that blew up the whole deal. Everybody walked out. All

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the Democrats were furious, and some of the report Republicans

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as well. So Senator Mark Warner was asked today about

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this thing's going to expire tonight, what do you think.

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Speaker 3: This is not a fight between Democrats and Senate Republicans.

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Speaker 2: This is a fact of Donald Trump trying to override

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the advice of everyone in the intelligence community.

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Speaker 1: So basically, that was his way of saying, this isn't

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going anywhere. In the meantime, the intelligence community that keeps

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track of terrorists and things like that are very nervous

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that they might miss something because this thing is going

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to be shut down. HAAKM. Jeffries talking about from the

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house side of the street, how it has stopped everything.

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The announcement about Poldie.

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Speaker 6: Republicans should lose sleep because in the middle of sensitive

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negotiations to reauthorize surveillance authority, which they knew were challenging,

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Donald Trump decides to toss a hang grenade, and in

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the middle of those negotiations.

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Speaker 1: That hand grenade was Bill Poulty. The announcement of it.

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Shannon Brain responds to this.

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Speaker 2: Say, we've got no reason to hang around and get

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this passed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and Jackie, you know covering Washington, how contentious this

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whole thing has gotten. And you know, I had Senator

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Mark Warner on Fox News Sunday last weekend and said, Okay,

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why don't you invite vote for the FISA extension. You

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have said it is critical. Democrats Republicans like agree about that,

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but then vote against if Poulty was ever to actually

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be nominated. We know now it's going to be Jay Clayton.

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That was never the plan, but he said, no, I

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don't want Bill Pulty to be the acting d and

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I for any period of time. He continues to say that.

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So no matter how quickly Republicans can move that Clayton

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nomination potentially forward, you've got the specter of Democrats who say, Nope,

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as long as Poulty is sitting anywhere near this information,

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we're not going to move forward on PISIS. So that

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gets to your question. There are a number of folks

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on both sides of the Aisle who say there are

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parts of FISAI that will continue. But one of the

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things there's a real question about is whether there'll be

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immunity for the telecom companies that cooperate with the FEDS.

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If they're worried about exposure, they may not be willing

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to provide that information, which is key to the surveillance.

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Speaker 1: Does no matter where you said, it's very controversial because

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it does scoop up conversations and communications with Americans. It's

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supposed to be targeted on foreign bad actors, but the

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Pulti thing is so outrageous that nobody is willing to

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move an inch. So just hold your breath and hope

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that we don't have anything untoward happening between now and

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the time they figure out how to pass the FAISA extension.

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So let's talk a little money. And oh, by the way,

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I recording this podcast obviously as we're doing it, but

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the first Financial Friday podcast after I finished this one,

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we're going to fire up that one. So give me,

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give me a little bit of time and we'll post

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the first Financial Friday podcast. I was blown away by

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how many people have called or emailed with financial questions.

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So We will dig through a whole bunch of them

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in the next podcast, but take a look. It'll be

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I've got to name it. I guess Tom Sullivan Financial Friday.

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Look for that podcast where you get your podcast and

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it should be up in a little bit meantime. About

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the money, The biggest, the biggest public offering ever was

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today SpaceX went public. They were if you were able to,

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and that's another whole show is about trying to get

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00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,720
public stock offerings before they go public because they're reserved

479
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,640
for the biggest and best clients of Wall Street. Anyway,

480
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,000
it had been priced by the underwriters at one hundred

481
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:58,079
and thirty five dollars a share, and that would have

482
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:02,079
made it at one point seven truly offering, which would

483
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:06,160
be the biggest ever. So that rolled around this morning

484
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,720
and I guess it was around market opens at nine

485
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,079
thirty Eastern. I think it was about an hour later,

486
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,119
somewhere around ten thirty it started trading, and it started

487
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,720
trading at one hundred and fifty dollars. So if you

488
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,960
were signed up to get some SpaceX stock but you

489
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:29,000
weren't part of the pre offering group, then you got

490
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,640
the stock at one hundred and fifty dollars, which is

491
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,599
why I don't like to buy stocks on their public

492
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,920
offering because usually it's higher than the original underwriting. So

493
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,799
the people in the original group immediately made money, a

494
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,799
lot of money, and then it kept climbing after that

495
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,920
instead of pulling back because it's a lot of I mean,

496
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,640
look at SpaceX is not profitable. They lose an awful

497
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,920
lot of money. This is truly a bet on Elon

498
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,799
Musk vision. And he I mean, he's out there, but

499
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:10,240
he's he's obviously called some close ones. I mean, Tesla

500
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,519
almost didn't make it, and SpaceX almost didn't make it,

501
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,359
but they he pulled it out and they turned the

502
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,319
things around. But anyway, the stock went up from one

503
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,599
hundred and fifty up to what was the high water

504
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,039
mark today, about one hundred and seventy six dollars. That

505
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,000
was so I guessed around one o'clock this afternoon, and

506
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,119
then it just kind of went down a little bit,

507
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,720
finishing at one hundred and sixty dollars one hundred sixty

508
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:45,799
one dollars and eleven cents. So if you bought at

509
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,599
one hundred and fifty, you made some money. Today the

510
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,440
stock was up about twenty five percent or so, which

511
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,079
was that's pretty good first day showing. So here's Elon

512
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,519
Musk talking to the employee at SpaceX. So they launched,

513
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,880
they launched a SpaceX rocket just before he made his

514
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,440
announcement today. So it was all very choreographed. And the

515
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,400
place is full of employees and the reason why they

516
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440
are all excited is not only because of the work

517
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,400
they're doing, but about four thousand of them as employees

518
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:31,720
got stock. And so today about four thousand new millionaires

519
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,720
were made at SpaceX. The employees, many, many, many, many

520
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,200
of them became millionaire city because they had stock as

521
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:47,400
part of their employment agreement. Some of the stock. Yeah,

522
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,759
the story I saw was that there's some that got

523
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,720
one hundred million dollars today. That don't make you go

524
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,640
to work, won't it. So here's Elon Musk.

525
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 9: Public for the It was the largest IPO that ever.

526
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,039
And let me tell you, if people had told me

527
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,920
this was the going to happen, I was like, man,

528
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,519
you must be smoking some really good crack because I

529
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:21,960
think this company is going to fail. I mean I

530
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:29,639
gave I gave SpaceX less than a ten percent chance

531
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:35,000
of succeeding at all. To be clear. In fact, I

532
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,000
told people this, look, we're probably going to fail, but

533
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,440
you know, we should give it a try, because if

534
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,559
we don't, if there's not a new company that enters space,

535
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:48,880
we will never be a truly spacefaring civilization. You know,

536
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,679
while the other aerospace companies they build good rockets and everything,

537
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,360
they they were simply not pursuing the technology that's necessary

538
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:03,480
to make life multiplanetary, to yeah, to make to make

539
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:09,280
star trek, to make the exciting science fiction futures that

540
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,119
we've read about real. And that's what SpaceX is all about,

541
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,360
is to take the fiction out of science fiction and

542
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:22,639
create an exciting, inspiring future for everyone. We want to

543
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,760
be able to take anyone who wants to go to

544
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,199
the Moon, anyone who wants to go to Mars, or

545
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,519
anywhere in the Solar System, and maybe beyond the Solar

546
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,679
System at some point. We want to be able to

547
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,800
take you there, not just a few astronauts. I mean you,

548
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,119
literally you, if you watch whoever you are watching this,

549
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,639
SpaceX wants to be able to take you to the

550
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:48,079
Moon and take you to Mars and ultimately beyond. And

551
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,920
I'm confident at this point that with the incredible team

552
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400
that we have here as SpaceX, that we will do

553
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:10,079
that for you. I always think about this that there

554
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,880
are there are always problems on Earth.

555
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: There are always problems on Earth.

556
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 9: There are always things that we wish to be better, that

557
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800
we want to solve here on Earth, and we should

558
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,599
solve them. But but there also have to be things

559
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,480
that get you excited about the future, that make you

560
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,960
glad to wake up in the morning because you can't

561
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,519
wait to see what happens next. And that's the future

562
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:35,159
that SpaceX wants to bring to you.

563
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're cheering for lots of reasons, but I

564
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,559
like it. It's very inspirational. So you want a job

565
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,000
where you wake up in the morning and can hardly

566
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:54,800
wait to find out what's next. So congratulations to Elon Musk,

567
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,039
Congratulations to all the millionaires that now work at SpaceX.

568
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,320
And who who knows what this is going to go.

569
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:02,880
You heard him, he said he only gave it a

570
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,440
ten percent chance of success, and yet he's he's launching

571
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:14,960
rockets all the time, for satellites, for his for the

572
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,360
internet service that he has that works off of satellites,

573
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,280
for launching government payloads for I mean it's on and on,

574
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960
and it's been wildly successful. And then to have the

575
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,559
rockets come back and be caught by an arm so

576
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,679
that they can reuse them again is pretty phenomenal. So

577
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,360
that's what's going on today over the weekend. Well, we

578
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,280
got the World Cup starting today, and it started yesterday

579
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,280
in Mexico City in Mexico one two to nothing. Tonight,

580
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,800
the USA kicks off the World Cup in Los Angeles.

581
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,960
They're going against Paraguay nine o'clock Eastern time tonight. And

582
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,519
they said at the Los Angeles Stadium, Well, what do

583
00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:00,480
you mean we're I think I know Los Angeles decently. Well,

584
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:04,320
I've never heard of the Los Angeles Stadium. It's the

585
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:12,639
Sofi Stadium in Inglewood. Apparently the World Federation for Soccer

586
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,159
doesn't allow commercial naming rights, so Sofar's name had to

587
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,920
be covered up. It's now the Los Angeles Stadium. And

588
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,719
I guess all of them. The Tea Mobile Stadium in Seattle,

589
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:29,440
Levi Stadium in San Francisco. I don't know what they're

590
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,480
going to do over at MetLife. They'll hang some. There's

591
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:38,960
eleven stadiums, seventy eight matches in the US, eleven different cities.

592
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,320
But the sad part is is there's all the news

593
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,440
media is going around showing how intense the security is

594
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,199
for these soccer games, and you would think people would

595
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,000
be happy, but it puts a paul on it. And

596
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,960
speaking of security, and over the weekend, I never mentioned

597
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:05,719
Wednesday night was the biggest rebound ever by an NBA

598
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,280
team in the finals, where the New York Knicks came

599
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,679
back from a twenty nine point deficit to win. So

600
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,400
they are three games to one. They're going to be

601
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,360
in San Antonio Tomorrow night at Game five at eight

602
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:24,400
thirty pm Eastern time. But I wonder if Taylor Swift

603
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,159
is going, you see where, because the President went Monday

604
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,239
night and the Knicks lost, and he wasn't there Wednesday night,

605
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,719
but Taylor Swift and all the celebrities were, and they

606
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,400
gave people were giving Taylor Swift credit for breaking the

607
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:45,360
Trump curse. They already they already named it the Trump curse.

608
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,320
So I don't know if she's going Tomorrow night in

609
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,719
San Antonio or not. And then of course tomorrow is

610
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:59,360
the cage match. Said tomorrow or Sunday, I'm not sure

611
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,039
the cage match for the big the big thing that

612
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,280
they build on the south lawn of the White House,

613
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,360
and it's Donald Trump's yeah Sunday. Yeah, He's going to

614
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,960
be eighty on Sunday. And it's also Flag Day, so

615
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:17,880
put your flags out on Sunday. And I saw an

616
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,000
interview with the head of UFC and he says, yeah,

617
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:25,639
he says, outdoors makes a difference. It's it's it's hot,

618
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,039
it's hot, and and it's really hot on the East Coast.

619
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:32,280
It's gonna be really hot in Washington on Sunday. It's

620
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,719
going to be very humid and apparently a lot of

621
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,440
bugs and if you are a UFC fighter that apparently

622
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:46,840
is debilitating somehow. So again Wall Street, let's see what

623
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,599
we had happened there today, because we gave you the

624
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,760
numbers on SpaceX. The overall market did well. Dow up

625
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:01,400
three hundred and fifty three, the fifty one thousand and

626
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,159
two to oh two. That's a new record. S and

627
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,440
P up thirty seven, NASDAC up seventy nine, Gold up

628
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,039
one hundred and twenty one dollars to four thousand and

629
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,320
two thirty five. In oil continuing to drop down another

630
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,719
three bucks today, is now down to eighty four dollars

631
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,719
for one barrel of oil. That's it for today, and

632
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,119
again a reminder of the other podcast it'll be up

633
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,039
shortly of the Tom Sullivan Financial Friday podcast, in which

634
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,639
we're going to try and resurrect an old format that

635
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,199
we did many years ago on this program, where we

636
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,719
take your financial questions and give you the best answer

637
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,880
we can. The phone number if you want to chime in,

638
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,039
you want to leave a question, you want to ask

639
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:54,159
a question, you've got an observation, The phone number is

640
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:59,480
eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred. If

641
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,559
you can't thember, the number, it's on my website, Tomsullivan

642
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,920
dot com. Eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred.

643
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,320
Have yourself a wonderful weekend. We'll be back on Monday.

644
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,920
I hope to see you then

