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Speaker 1: Yo, what is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome

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back to another episode of the One Piece Virgin Podcast

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with me? Today we have the Virgin of One Piece,

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Poseidon Mythos, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: My favorite character now is bond Clay.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: She's an enlightened one go.

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Speaker 1: I believe he is.

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Speaker 3: He's MVP for sure.

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Speaker 1: Between Bonclay, Mister three and Buggy, we had some like

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low key, like like lovable characters that you didn't expect

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to love in this arc. But I know, before we

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jump ahead, we have Jordan the anime dude joining us

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once again.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Everybody? Happy to be here? This is a this is

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a good arc, so I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 1: And the arc that we're covering today is Impelled Down

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and Poseidon's been loving One Piece so much that she

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also watched all of Marine Ford. So maybe next week

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Lash the week after we could cover and have a

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conversation on that. But today we're gonna focus on Impel Down.

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Let's start with general thoughts beside and how you like

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the arc so far.

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Speaker 2: I actually really enjoyed the arc, like just all the

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way through. I you know, I didn't feel like, oh

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the beginning was kind of end then it got good

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at the end or the good like the beginning was

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good or the end is I honestly thought like Impel

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Down like was just a solid arc.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, I do think it's well paced

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because I think there's something in like thirty five chapters

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and thirty seven episodes. I may have just made up

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two numbers, but I know it's something close like that,

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And a lot of other arcs it'll be like twenty

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five chapters, forty five episodes, stuff like that where they

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really drag it out to keep kids an anime that

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doesn't want to catch up to the source material. But

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with Impel Down, it's it's close to one to one,

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which is uncommon for one piece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I agree because like my thoughts just throughout

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like the when I was like at the end of

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the arc, I sat there and I'm like, I feel

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like there was almost like no filler Like in this arc.

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I felt like every episode kind of had its like

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place and like progressed at a pretty pretty pretty good

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pace compared to you know, some of the past arcs.

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But I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. It was cool to

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like meet new characters that will as well and see

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old characters kind of come back.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I thought that was interesting. I think that's why

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a lot of people love this arc is because one

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Piece fans love old characters were turning and because the

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straw Hats aren't with Loofy, they had to make up

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like their own little crew along the way between Bond Clay,

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Bond Clay, Mister three, Buggy Yvonkov, and then a bunch

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of cameos from villains they've already met before, like Mister

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One and Crocodile. It's just one of those arcs that, like,

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its just it's what one Piece vans love this Old

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characters were turning lore and like seeing what's going on

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within the world a one piece like while the one

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piece like while the like the straw Hats were kind

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of continuing their adventure, there were characters that were here

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in Impelled, Impell, Oh my god, in Impel That.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, And I guess on top of that a

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little bit too is one Piece up to this point

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has been it's good, but it's pretty formulaic and you

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kind of know what to expect. But after the end

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of SUBB it's kind of just like a a roller

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coaster on its way down for a good little while

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there as it goes through these next couple arcs, right, Like,

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it doesn't really take time to catch his breath too much,

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aside from uh maybe the arc with Boa, but prior to.

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Speaker 1: This, no Amazon Lily, maybe it catches its breath a

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little bit, a little bit. It's pretty fast paced Amazon

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Lily too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is going.

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Speaker 1: The second the straw Hat got split up, it's very

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fast paced, and it's all like all going towards what's

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going on with aces execution, right, it's all building up.

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I think it's my favorite saga and one.

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Speaker 4: Piece potentially it's it's one of the best I feel

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like build up arcs in anime right because it is

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it does have big steaks and implications all its own,

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but it is still like building up something even bigger.

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Speaker 3: So it's uh, kind of the best of both worlds

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in that regard.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't think I was gonna have

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a lot to say because I didn't get a chance

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to rewatch it. But the second we started talking about

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impell down down, I feel like I can't stop talking,

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and we gotta let Posidon talk. But one more thing.

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The straw hats get wrecked in Impel Dalley, Impel Down.

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Loofy gets wrecked by Magellan, and we'll get into that.

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We I feel like we're getting to a point in

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one piece where Loofy is weak compared to the people

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he's fighting. And you see that in the mareene Ford

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as well. You did this entire saga and even slightly

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prior Loofy's weak in comparison, which is prior to this,

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like he was always pretty strong buddy tangled with the

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Nell after all. Yeah, because I didn't walk us through

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your favorite moments, things you liked, disliked and maybe like

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this cut, I know you watched it, watched it a

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little while ago, so just do your best, just kind

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to walk us through it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the arc starts with basically Boa kind of almost

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breaks King Loofy into the prison. We get to meet

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kind of the big heads of the prison. We get

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to meet Magellan, who is the warden, and then we

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have Hannib your handbell, Yes he is a vice warden.

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And then we learned that this prison is separated it

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into five levels actually six, and depending you get kind

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of placed in the prison, depending on your bounty. Level,

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So if you have a higher bounty, you are farther

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into the prison, which is underwater. And each level kind

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of has its own little like torture thing, right, Each

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prisoner gets tortured in a different way. And one level

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has like trees with blades on it. There's one level

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where it's freezing cold, There's one level where it's really hot.

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There's one level where it's just just like fire. It's

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literal hell.

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Speaker 1: In pill Down is kind of crazy because it's supposed

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to be a jail that holds criminals, but I feel like,

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after watching it, it just kills criminals. How are they

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still alive?

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Speaker 4: You're not technically supposed to be killing the criminals. I

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think some some of the higher ups, like Magellan, have

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the credentials to do so if they so choose, But

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like we do see like the former guy that was

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kind of on Magellan's level was imprisoned himself too because

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he would just do that, right, Like, you're not You're

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not supposed to just start killing everybody.

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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to kill them. But I'm saying, how

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do they survive the situations that they're in, Like the

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first floor, which is like the weakest floor. You're just

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constantly getting stabbed chased by people with axes and poisonous spiders. Like,

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how do you live? And your only choice is to

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go down and then attack get attacked by monsters and

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then go down and be starvation and then go down

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and freeze to death.

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Speaker 4: Like, let's say, to be fair, people usually don't go

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down like, that's not that's not the typical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's true.

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Speaker 4: They usually don't choose to do that. That's Look, he's

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a bit of a crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Lufy was trying to go down. He was getting chased

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by things as well. I'm just saying, I guess, yeah,

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people have supernatural strength in this world. It just felt

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like to me that everyone should, like unless you're really

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really really strong, like one hundred thousand burry bounty, like

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one hundred million Barry bounty or more. Oh my god,

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I can't again, my zeros mixed up. It's been a

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long day. I go, super large bounty. How do you live?

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I think you just die? You get there, you die.

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Speaker 3: In two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I mean, bounties are important to an extent. We got

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to remember people like on Buggies level are floor one.

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Speaker 3: So I's true.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's crazy how this place is set up.

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Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, continue, Sorry to interrupt, you were talking with the

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different floors.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we do find out that Ace is located on

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a level five, and we also learned that he is

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imprisoned alongside a seven war lord named jin May, who

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also recently got locked up and impelled down because he

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had refused to fight against white Beard during Ace's execution.

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So the Navy or the Marines kind threw him in

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there m hm, because he you know, he values Ace

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as a friend. So we got to meet Jinvey, who's

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actually gonna play a huge role into the next arc.

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Speaker 1: Without your Marine Ford experience with Jim Bay, What is

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your first impression of him?

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Speaker 2: I thought, like when I when I found out that, like,

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oh he's here because like he refused to fight or

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obey the Navy, I was just like, Okay, So he's cool,

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he knows what's up. He's a nice dude.

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Speaker 3: He's the only warlord that you just chose not to write.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is the only one. Boa was gonna choose

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not to as well, but we all know that she

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ended up doing so because Lufy convinced her so he

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could get into break into impel Down.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we talked about this last time,

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but there were some hilarious gags with Boa entering impel

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Down and like on the way to impel Down, Yeah,

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he was eating so much food and then pretending like

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he was making these comments like loofy. Oh my god,

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it was. It was hilarious. I love Boa, I really

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do love Boa the character.

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Speaker 5: I do too.

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Speaker 2: She has become one of my favorite characters as well

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because her little antics are hilarious.

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Speaker 5: I think it's all right.

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Speaker 3: I feel like most people love Boa.

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Speaker 4: Magellan kind of fell for her and then uh, I

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mean even Domino was getting wooed, right, otherwise there's no

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way Lupie would a would have got out scott free.

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And the little den den Mushi, the little snails, those

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things are getting wooed like nobody's safe from Boa.

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Speaker 3: I will say that it is true.

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Speaker 1: Trivia. When was Jinbay first introduced.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, oh god, she was introduced quite a bit earlier,

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because I remember there was like a little montage showing

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like each of the warlords, and he was on there.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, when they were talking about going

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towards Fishman Island because Jinbay was technically supposed to be there,

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so I can't exactly that wasn't.

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Speaker 1: His first time. It actually goes I believe, all the

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way back to me Hawk's first introduction. Really they mentioned

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Jin Bay. I'm gonna be honest, I'm kind of going

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off with chat here. I don't remember that either.

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Speaker 4: I do remember there's one back in East Blew.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 1: Or like right before the name came up or something

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mm hmmm, and they mentioned, like the warlords in Bay

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who's a fish Man? And then here he is four

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hundred episodes later. Anyway, that was just a fun little

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bit of trivia. I was gonna see if you remember.

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I think yos or his friend Johnny mentioned him.

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Speaker 2: The two guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing with the Yeah, anyway, sorry

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for the segue. Let's let's jump back to it.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Uh, It just it just I just wanted to mention it.

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It does go to show like Oda's planning characters and

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what warlords are and their potential future introduction so long ago.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think I saw you guys a page

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of Q and A's earlier where it was like years

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prior to her actually appearing in the manga. But it

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was like a cover page that had Boa on it

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in her design, and even Tho would have kind of

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forgot about it, but he's like, yeah, that was one

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of the people had plans like that is her design

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and it was years prior.

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Speaker 1: Sothing amazing. He just wanted to draw someone that's hot early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that would makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but I get it, okay. So you

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mentioned that Ace is being held there for his execution.

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Jin Bay is next to him. It's in the they're

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on the bottom bottom floor. Loofy is rushing down through

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the levels, through the spikes and the cold and the

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hot and all the stuff that you were mentioning, and

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that's kind of where you were.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So he ends up running into Buggy on level one,

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because it turns out Buggy did get captured at some

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point and was locked up there, and the fact he

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is locked up at level one goes to show how

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little of a threat that the Verenes think he is.

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and Buggy's trying to get out and Lufy's like, well,

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I'm trying to go in, so, uh, you know, Buggy

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kind of touched by. Also Lufy's kind of kindness was like, Okay,

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I guess I'll help you. Uh So Buggy and Lufy

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end up going down and then they find mister two.

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I believe he was all he was locked up in

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level two as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on level two there was mister three.

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Speaker 2: So oh sorry, mister two. Sorry, I get those confused.

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Mister twosbond Clay, mister three, wax, do you there?

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Speaker 5: We go?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So they run into mister three, who is able

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to make keys to get kind of himself out, and

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then you know him being like, well, I don't have

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any other option I might not get another opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Like this again.

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Speaker 2: Fine, I'll help you. So they kind of go down

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to level three, which is I believe the level where

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they starve the prisoners. So then they run into mister

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two Bonclay, who's super excited to see Leafy because the

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last time we saw bon Clay was at the end

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of Alabasta, where bond Clay, being a real one, sacrificed

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himself to kind of fight Hena so that way straw

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the straw Hat crew could get away from Alabasta because

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the Marines were kind of closing in on them and like,

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all right, we know where you guys are at. And

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within a heartbeat, he's like, I'm gonna help you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was locked and loaded for this.

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Speaker 2: He was locked and loaded and oh, go ahead, and

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I was gonna say, I'm gonna gonna be honest with

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you for here Poseidon.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember back when we did

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Alabasta for this podcast, but I was like very torn

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up inside for for Bonclay, and uh, it's a part

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of that was because you know, you can't rewatch Alabasta

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without thinking of this Arc two and just everything then encapsulates.

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Speaker 3: His character goes together right.

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Speaker 1: Up until this point. You're like, oh, they get arrested.

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Now You're like, oh, ship, they get arrested and tortured

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and thrown in this terrible jail. Like it's imagine being

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a pirate and not actually killing anyone or something, and like,

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I'm gonna skial some meat today from someone impel down

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level one getting stabbed to death all day. I'm just

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a normal dude.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like you're just not doing your taxes.

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If you're a pirate throne, right.

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Speaker 1: As Loofy know, the whole thing is that you're you're

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being counter to the world government, that he broke any laws,

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but the law that you're breaking is choosing to wave

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a pirate flag, right right, yeah, fair enough, Like Lufy said,

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like imagine Lofy, like, I guess he has probably killed

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people academically.

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Speaker 3: Lufy's probably kind of a menace.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to a menace.

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Speaker 4: Look at this now, any criminals he let back out

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in the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. I was gonna mention that.

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Speaker 7: Later, so I get it.

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Speaker 1: But that's true, that is true.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, anyway, you're talking about bon Clay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so bond Clay. They kind of get bon Clay.

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So now he's kind of gathering his own little crew here.

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The straw Hats all all got separated. I believe there

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was some episodes in between Amazon Lily and impill Down

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kind of showing where all of straw Hats ended up going,

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which I'm gonna mention this briefly because I feel like

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it's going to be important. I can't remember the exact locations,

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so I will just briefly describe them. So now we

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got sent to a island in the sky ran by

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this weather wizard island, Yes, an island in the sky.

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Zoro got sent to Muggy Kingdom, where Prona also ended

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up getting heated too by Kuma. Chopper got sent to

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an island full of big birds and cave men who

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want to eat him. Yes, they were hungry they uh.

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Usa got sent to this island with a bunch of

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food that.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sanji got sent to an island full of women,

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but uh they're not exactly uh the women that Sony

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is really into. Uh. Yes, And Robin got sent to

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a almost like a camp of some sorts, like a

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like an imprisonment camp where they're building a bridge and

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there's women and men who are shackled and forced to

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work by the government. Uh. Frankie got sent to an

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island notably uh the bunch of tech and Vega Punk.

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Vega Punk's old laboratory is there. And then Brooke got

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sent to somewhere where they're worshiping him.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact, guys, for Robin, they mentioned they were building

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a bridge. Do we remember how long they've been building

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this bridge for?

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Speaker 3: It's like six hundred years.

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Speaker 1: I think something insane.

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Speaker 3: I like six years is what I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 7: I wonder why you know he said to connect the islands.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, questions without answers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like Robins especially kind of important because

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I mean they did mention that, and it looks like,

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you know, they've been at it for a very very

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long time.

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Speaker 5: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, when the Void entry was, it's like one hundred

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year avoid time.

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Speaker 5: Yes, where one hundred years of history was erased.

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Speaker 3: Correct history because of the dates. Dates are hard, OK.

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Speaker 1: So one hundred years of history. But my question is

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was this bridge being built prior to the Voice entry?

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When was you guys can continue talking. Sorry, I'm just yeah,

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I love talking one piece.

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Speaker 5: No, you're good like talking one piece.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're here for, is talk one piece.

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Speaker 4: So I guess out of all the places that people

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were sent, which one was your your favorite therapist Sidon, Like,

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if you had to be to choose to be sent

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to one of those places.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think I'd like to chill with the Wizard.

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I think he's a pretty swell dude. Yeah, I think

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out of everybody, uh not me, kind of went somewhere

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pretty for fairly fairly stuff, you know, she has shelter.

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He you know, let her kind of stay with him.

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And you know he's he's just a chill dude as

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opposed to Uh, Propper got sent everybody's trying to eat him. Yeah,

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about to get sent to prison, and uh, you know,

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Frankie's just in the middle of the old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe weather Wizard beat out Prona. This is

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so sad.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna, you know, that buggy Kingdom because I'm like,

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you know, you get a nice castle and all, but

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you have Corona seem depressing and a little bit demanding.

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So I don't think i'd wanna get sent there with her,

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as much as I love Corona.

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Speaker 1: Update on the timeline, the voice century was eight hundred

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to nine hundred years ago, and there was a century

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that disappeared. And this bridge has been has been being

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built for seven hundred years without a known purpose.

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Speaker 4: See I told you I'm bad with dates. I was

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one hundred off. That was in the ballpark.

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Speaker 1: It was after However, I just think it's important to notes,

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especially like not that we're gonna get any answers anytime soon.

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But that's part of the reason why I love rewatching

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and rereading one piece so I could refresh my memory

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on some of these facts for what they do for

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when they do eventually become relevant. I have a feeling

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it will eventually become event There's no reason a bridge

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has been being built for seven hundred years for no purpose.

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Speaker 4: I'd be surprised. Man, construction goes on forever.

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Speaker 3: Something here. They just started and delay those unions.

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Speaker 4: Years later they forget what they're doing. They later just

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continue going.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like someone has to know why its

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being built. God, damn it.

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Speaker 4: They said they were connecting islands now which islands? I

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don't know, I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's definitely some significance with like the years,

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and I am I'm looking forward to eventually learning in

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twenty sixty two. Okay, continue my bad?

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Speaker 2: No, you're good?

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 2: What did I leave off with one? Okay, Monclay. They

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go into level four, which we also find out that

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mister one the Blade the Blade Dude was also is

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also locked up. So basically most of baroque works, the

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important people from Barokes kind of got captured and imprisoned,

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and we find we go into level four. So at

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this point, the warden and the vice warden are like,

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what is straw Hat Loofy doing here? And they realize,

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wait a second, he's trying to break ace out and hannamil,

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he's kind of a silly dude. Uh he he's really

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obsessed with Oh I want He was at some point

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like maybe I should let straw Hat do his things

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so we can blame Magellan so I can be warden

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like he's like over here, like willing to let them

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go like that.

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Speaker 1: Who needs enemies for such a serious arc. There's such

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a nice blend of comedy from Hannibel and obviously Buggy

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and like mister three and Boncley and Ivankov, but like Hannibell,

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is a nice touch. You have such a strong warden

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and then the vice warden who's kind of in charge

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of a lot of the time just being an actulute

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like goofy dude who doesn't give a fuck until he

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does give a fuck is just great. The great contrast

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for such a serious arc with torture and all that

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stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: I will say I think Magellan's pretty pretty good on

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that end too. I know he's like a strong.

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Speaker 7: Presence that around, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but like the diarrhea stuff. And then

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also just whenever they first initially mentioned Buggy and Loofy

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running around, it's like he was there in the com room,

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like he could have been alerted, but he had his

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eyes on Boa.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he's like, you know what, no,

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this takes priority.

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Speaker 4: You know, he just kind of ignored them, and then, uh,

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you know, things kind of spun out from there.

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Speaker 7: So I'm very happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy Poseidon appreciates how strong Magellan is. I

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watched like four of one piece reviews today as the

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way to kind of prep for this podcast. The amount

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of people that were like, there's not that many strong

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like people, considering there's like a million like strong prisoners,

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there's not that many strong people Magellan. You don't realize

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how fucking strong Magellan is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, dudele them.

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Speaker 1: Magellan wiped out the Blackbeard Pirates. Like we'll get we'll

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talk about that in a second.

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Speaker 2: We'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Migellan's a monster. I feel like he's like a

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right below admir level.

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Speaker 4: Right he had he had people, he had insane people

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like Loofy, like you said, black Beard, Buggy, like he

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had all these people running for their lives, yeah, just

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with his presence, right, like his his only weak side

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and like his own worst enemy is himself, right, because

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he likes to eat poison and like he doesn't have

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to do that, like he just think that enhances the flavor.

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And because of that, he's on the toilet for like

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ten hours a day. But like if that wasn't the case,

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like he top ten people in the series probably right, like,

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if not higher, he's up there.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I watched like five or six

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00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,519
reviews or a handful of reviews, and multi people were like,

474
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,759
I can't believe how many strong people we got. Crocodile

475
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,920
and this other guy who I can't remember his name

476
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,799
that used to work there.

477
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the guy from the rain Dude, I forget

478
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,440
is that ever?

479
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:04,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

480
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: Whatever, they got that dude, they got Jim Bay, this Ace.

481
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400
There's like so many insanely strong people and there's only

482
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,240
one Magellan. And I'm like, dude, Magellan's fucking stronger than

483
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:18,160
them all. Like he's a stronger than them all. And

484
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,200
they're also isolated. They're isolated in the middle of nowhere,

485
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,519
like you can't like.

486
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that in like prior ten twenty years

487
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,640
prior and stuff, I said that guy that they have

488
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,240
locked up. Yes, they said he's on par with Magellan

489
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,359
and he but he also worked there, right, that's part

490
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,519
of why it's known as like such an impregnable place, right,

491
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,640
So it's uh, they they could just think of two

492
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,680
Magellan's running around.

493
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:45,799
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I'm very happy because I appreciates

494
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,480
how strong Magellan is. This guy, I feel like Looviy

495
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,799
never beat him. He's lucky. Like loovy goal was to

496
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,039
get him takes that one and escape. He he wasn't

497
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,160
an opponent that he had to fight in the moment.

498
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,119
He had to just escape from him. But he couldn't

499
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,319
fight him like Lufy can't beat him right.

500
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: Now, even after breaking out all those other people, they

501
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000
still just had to kind of runs.

502
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,039
Speaker 1: I swear he's like admiral conversation, but since he's not

503
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,680
technically a loggia, maybe he's like a couple of points

504
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,480
notch below but way above vice material admiral for sure.

505
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so incredibly strong. Like the only people that

506
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:30,400
ended up surviving his his his venom were it was

507
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,359
other people who were like, Okay, I'm going to try

508
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,519
to save you or here's the anti venom, so he's

509
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:39,799
he's he has such a disgustingly ope in my opinion,

510
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,039
op double fruit. So yeah, he's definitely not somebody to

511
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,920
sleep on when it comes to fighting. And Lufy had

512
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,519
a really hard time because I mean, it looks like

513
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,119
Magillan has pretty good crasp of what powers he has

514
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,839
and he had no problem fighting Loofy. So, which is

515
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,160
what happened in level four.

516
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Speaker 1: So I mentioned it. What's his name? Magellan is not

517
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,799
a logia like like he's a parame that's crazy. His

518
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,680
body does not turn into poison. It excretes poison and

519
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,720
it comes out of him or diarrhea as well. But

520
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:23,039
he's also I believe, probably have mastered it, awakened it

521
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:24,440
in some ways.

522
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: He's just he's immune to all poison, right, but he

523
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,279
just can't digest it. So it's like one of those

524
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,799
things if he didn't eat it. Like like I said,

525
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,039
he's good, but he just chooses. Yeah, their own worst

526
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,039
enemy at times.

527
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah for sure. M Yeah, so that's kind of

528
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,960
what happened in level four. Loofy ends up fighting Magellan,

529
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:53,480
ends up losing. You have Mister three and Buggy who

530
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,599
kind of are like, all right, we need to take

531
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,640
this opportunity, both of us. We're gonna leave. And then

532
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,720
you have bond Clay over here, who's kind of having

533
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,000
like this whole almost like crisis. He's like, I'm a coward.

534
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000
I can't do anything to save you, straw Hat. But

535
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,200
then he gathers the courage to take take Loofy and

536
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,799
go down into level five, which is the freezing hell level,

537
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,400
and Bond plays over here. He's struggling. There's wolves on

538
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,759
level five. They're here attacking him, and here's Loofy like

539
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,799
on their urge of dying, like on the verge of

540
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,839
dying here, and these wolves started attacking bon Clay in

541
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,039
with the last little amount of strength Loufy had, Loofy

542
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:39,920
fights off all of the wolves that are down there

543
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,839
who are attacking them, and then somebody shows up. And

544
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,960
up until this point there have been little like you know,

545
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,279
little inklings kind of thrown here and there, like you know,

546
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:54,319
there's some prisoners that have that have disappeared over the

547
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,319
last few years, notably a prisoner name Imperia in Bankov

548
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,319
who just he didn't escape, but he's just gone. So

549
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
a lot of them just kind of assumed he ended

550
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:11,680
up dying, and nobody really kind of you know, took,

551
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:18,119
I guess notice of it. So Ivankov shows up and

552
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,920
he takes both Bonclay and Lufy, who are at this

553
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,680
point about to die from their injuries and the cold,

554
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119
and we find out that ivan Kov and a bunch

555
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,279
of other people, other prisoners, are hiding in what they

556
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:39,039
call Level five point five, which is between Level five

557
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:43,039
and six, and they are just free in there. They

558
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,160
the prison guards don't have access, they don't know where,

559
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,480
they don't even know they're there.

560
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,119
Speaker 1: Like they know, Like people are really missing, but it's

561
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,079
not that surprising, considering people could like boil alive, freeze

562
00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,240
to death, probably get buried in snow boil alive. That

563
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,400
surprising that people are going missing again. In my theory,

564
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000
I think people are dying here in two weeks unless

565
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,160
they're really really strong.

566
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 4: Yes, which granted, like it's like you mentioned with Crocodile's crew, right,

567
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,920
like uh, like we see numbers one through three, but

568
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240
like it's not like anybody else from his crew is

569
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,160
an impule down right, Like it is the strongest of

570
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,599
the strong.

571
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: Everybody in there's kind of a problem.

572
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: So exactly, Yes, at least the ones that survivor or

573
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,519
a problem or they're just not being sent to impule

574
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,559
down right for lesser crimes. However, I do want to say,

575
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,599
let's not gloss over it. So he got wrecked by Magellan,

576
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,799
poisoned on the verge of death, right, bond Clay defending

577
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,000
him against the wolves. Loofy uses conquerors hockey again, which

578
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:44,599
is really cool.

579
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:51,799
Speaker 2: Oh, he does like passing out, if I remember, that's the.

580
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Only thing that kind of keeps them alive. But they're

581
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,839
on the verge of death, as you mentioned, and that's

582
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,359
when Evonkov comes and saves them and brings them the

583
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,480
five point five. But he's still on the verge of death.

584
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,519
So what happens after that, Besidon? Do you remember?

585
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

586
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,279
Speaker 4: Prior to that though, just so we don't gloss over

587
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,799
it too much, just because, uh, I know, we mentioned

588
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,200
Hanya Bells like a little bit of like comedic relief

589
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
here in this arc. But I do want to point

590
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920
out like he took out Buggy and number three really easily,

591
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,240
and number two only really got to jump on him

592
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,480
because he pretended to be Nammy, right, Like he tricked.

593
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:24,799
Speaker 3: Them and him a little bit there.

594
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,119
Speaker 4: So it's like they had him guarding the floor upwards

595
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,599
and dude's a problem too, right, it's not just the

596
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,279
gillin in there. So anyways, that uber ba I just

597
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,119
don't want to gloss over that too much. I like it.

598
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: I like when he started being taking things seriously. It's

599
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,519
a good contrast, goes back and forth and you'll realize, wow, okay,

600
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,799
he kind of deserves his job.

601
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: I just thought it was funny, like how fast Hannibal was,

602
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,880
like because von Clay was impersonating Nomy because obviously he

603
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,319
had touched nom in a previous arc, so he's able

604
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:59,039
to imitate her. He was he like dropped everything he

605
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:00,680
was doing. He's like, yoh, yeah, I do want to

606
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
see you change clothing.

607
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: I can't believe he felt that either when right, Like, oh.

608
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:13,359
Speaker 2: Man, yeah, it's it was so funny. He's such a

609
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:20,079
silly character. I love that man. Uh. But we do

610
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,759
get introduced to von Kaov. So we find out that

611
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,880
yvon Kov has like almost like a party floor. Right,

612
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720
everybody over there is kind of just partying, eating, they

613
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880
perform and all that, and uh, it's really exciting. And

614
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,039
I also got the I was really happy to also

615
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,039
see bon Clay go oh, these are these people are

616
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,440
all queer, They're all like me. So like bon Clay

617
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480
feels almost like at home with these people because he

618
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:47,559
hasn't really had, you know, anybody like that around him.

619
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,440
So we find out that yvon Kov injected. So yvan

620
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,279
Kov has a double fruit where he can manipulate hormones

621
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,319
and inject them into himself and other people so he

622
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:01,640
can give people more adrenaline, you know, change their their

623
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,839
gender stuff like that. So he injected I can't remember

624
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,200
what exactly it was. Was it the adrenaline or something

625
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,519
to fight off the venom, but it all came down

626
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,440
to I could inject him with these hormones. But it

627
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480
comes down to straw hats like or Goofy's will to

628
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,319
be able to continue and live.

629
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:24,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, he enhanced his like natural healing and like antibodies

630
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,160
and stuff, right, but it's still on his own.

631
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: There's no guarantee of that.

632
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: So m hm.

633
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,319
Speaker 2: So you see kind of bond Clay over here. He's

634
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:35,559
also worried. He's very he cares so deeply for Loofy.

635
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,000
So you see him kind of almost like freaking out,

636
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,599
like we need him to live I want him to live.

637
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,400
I'm bond Clay was willing to trade his own life

638
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000
if it only meant that Lufy would live, which goes

639
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:51,920
to show how great of a character Bond Clay like

640
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,480
he he even like in Alabasta, Yes he was fighting,

641
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,640
but like he was still he still cared so deeply

642
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,599
for Loofy because Lufy showed him so much kindness that

643
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,400
he feels like this is his way of like repaying

644
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,599
back for everything. So it was such a oh, such

645
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:13,920
heartwarming moments.

646
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, because like as soon as he sees Lufy as

647
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:17,920
a friend, right, like, he's willing to go above and.

648
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,839
Speaker 3: Beyond for his friends.

649
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,119
Speaker 4: And even on like floor four where he runs away,

650
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720
like he he has to kind of make himself do

651
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,880
so it's not easy for him, and he does so

652
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,759
with the promise to himself that like even if it

653
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,680
kills him, uh, you know, he did it logically so

654
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720
they don't both go down in that same spot. But

655
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:37,279
even if it kills him, he's going to save Loofy

656
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:37,640
if he can.

657
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,839
Speaker 3: Thereafter, so and we.

658
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: See him you know, not just say the words there,

659
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,440
but put it to action.

660
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

661
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

662
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: Got an straw Boykov is a character.

663
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,759
Speaker 2: I think he's great. We do find out that he

664
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,279
was a commander for the Revolutionary Army, which at this

665
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,719
point we know that Lufy's father is the leader of

666
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,079
the Revolutionary Army. So when you know, Lufy ends up

667
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,360
waking up, he's all kind of okay. He ended up

668
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,639
barely surviving the venom. You know, it was very lightly

669
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,360
mentioned to von Kov, Like Lufy was so like nonchalant

670
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,719
about it. He was just like, yeah, that's my dad whatever.

671
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,840
I don't really know him much though, and like at

672
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,559
this point, ivan Kov was like, this is all I

673
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,320
can do for you, Like, I'm not going to really

674
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,840
help you past here, like you know, I I saved

675
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,519
your life. But when Ivankov finds out that Lufy's father

676
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,559
is Dragon, von Kov's like, I owe Dragon, you know

677
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,559
a lot my life. So I'm going to help you

678
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,000
get to your brother and help you guys get out

679
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,280
of here.

680
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: So that's kind of what kick started everything.

681
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Loofy's so casually, yeah, that's my dad, and he's like

682
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:06,159
and Vankav's like, yeah, your dad, Wait, your dad like

683
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,159
the little Caw when he was just so good.

684
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,519
Speaker 7: It's funny.

685
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,559
Speaker 1: At that point, Ivonkov is now on Loofy's side, like, yeah,

686
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:15,679
we've got to get you out of here.

687
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

688
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: It's it's funny too, because that's kind of how Loofy

689
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,039
found out too, right, is garn't be in the same way.

690
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:22,880
He just kind of casually mentioned it. He's like, oh, yeah,

691
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,000
I shouldn't have said that. Don't be telling people that, Like,

692
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,960
oh yeah, I shouldn't have vipeat, I shouldn't have said that.

693
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:31,400
But uh, but yeah, there's the whole thing with Dragon,

694
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,800
and then there's all the implications that that might potentially

695
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,559
have because it's out now that uh that Ace and

696
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,920
Lufy are are brothers. Right, So Ivankov has all these

697
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,760
things going through his head. He's like, wait, does the

698
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,079
Navy know this? Does that mean Dragon is Ace's dad?

699
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Like there's a lot of questions there that suddenly stop fighting.

700
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,119
Speaker 1: His time, Right, Yeah, Ivankov assumed that Ace was also

701
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,760
Dragon's son and then doesn't realize it until much later.

702
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:57,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and oh yeah, it's one of those things too,

703
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:00,199
where he's it makes sense why they're not really in

704
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,960
any rush to get out of there because he's biding

705
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,199
his time to like make it like a a two

706
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,320
pronged thing, right, based on whatever whatever Dragon does on

707
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,679
the outside. So but yeah, this this changes that, right

708
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,440
Lufy Lupy has a way of changing things.

709
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, not that it would have been easy for ivan

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Kov to escape regardless, but I guess right.

711
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like how you is a rush?

712
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah yeah, because up until this point, only one

713
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,079
prisoner has ever made it out of impull Down and

714
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:30,840
it was Chiky.

715
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, you gotta watch the movie with Schiky

716
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,000
in it.

717
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: Do you watch it after this arc or do you

718
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,719
watch it like kind of in between a certain.

719
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,559
Speaker 4: I think usually after it was like being written, like

720
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,559
like as this art kind of was coming out. But uh,

721
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,599
it's you know, it's a movie. It's just have fun

722
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:56,239
with it. I don't think it's like two. It probably

723
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
like is cannon, but like not also not really like

724
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,639
it doesn't.

725
00:36:58,679 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: It's definitely not.

726
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,199
Speaker 4: Okay, it's always like the movies are usually like their

727
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:07,400
own kind of separate little things.

728
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: Mmmm, okay, okay, should be good. We lost the recording,

729
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,320
but we are back. We didn't lose a recording, but

730
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,880
the recording stopped. So we're continuing from where we were

731
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440
talking about the Shiki movie, and we kind of just

732
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,000
said that if non cannon, but has like cannon characters

733
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
in it and cannon stuff, but it's a non cannon

734
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,280
story that never actually happens along their journey. But I

735
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,280
do think a good time to watch it is sometime

736
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,559
after impelled down. Yeah mm hm, But anyway, let's continue.

737
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: You're talking about four or five point five and uh

738
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:49,360
and the fact that Lupy had to be saved and

739
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,960
then uh, like the reason Ivonko decided to to help

740
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,440
him out right finding out Dragon List his his dad,

741
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,519
so I think was the last thing we kind of

742
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,079
talked about there. H.

743
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:07,119
Speaker 2: So they end up I Bonkov also takes like his

744
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,840
entire little group of people to also kind of fight

745
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,400
against the jailers and everybody to kind of fight their

746
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,079
way down to U level six. Now, level six is

747
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,960
kind of the level where if you were placed down there,

748
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:26,519
you are either on your way to getting killed because

749
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:30,360
this is like the equivalent of death row, or you're

750
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,079
just gonna basically.

751
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: Your existence I believe is just like gone.

752
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,599
Speaker 2: Like everybody who's down on level six is just they

753
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,760
what are people who the government considers just dangerous human

754
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,159
beings who should not be like left.

755
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: Into you know, the other levels.

756
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,519
Speaker 2: So Ace is down there. I think I said he

757
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:50,519
was in level five, but I believe he's in level six.

758
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

759
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,199
Speaker 4: The originally thought he was level five or whatever, but

760
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,840
uh ended up being six.

761
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,599
Speaker 5: A level six.

762
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: Level six is really a lot of bad people are

763
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:04,559
down there. So they go down there. And here's the problem.

764
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719
At the time that Lufy is trying to get down there,

765
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,039
they are now kind of carrying on with all right,

766
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,119
his execution is happening in a few hours. Let's you know,

767
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,280
they're trying to escort Ace out of Impell down onto

768
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,480
the Navy ships to go to Marine Fort.

769
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:26,599
Speaker 1: One second, I'm getting raided, and the sound effected playing now,

770
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:37,679
oh my god, what a scuff day. Give it a second. Raiders. Yes,

771
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,079
I should say thank you, thank you for the raid.

772
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,559
I really appreciate that. Actually we're talking about one piece

773
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:43,719
and but Sidon was just talking about how Loofy is

774
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920
chasing down. Don't apologize at all. That's my fault for

775
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,960
not muting the notation.

776
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: I would have I would have not just laying around.

777
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 1: I appreciate the raid. Keep on Raid and Raiders. But yes,

778
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Lufy is going down trying to get to Ace while

779
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,039
Ace is Now they're expediting his execution. He's being brought

780
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:04,159
up at the same time Lufy is going down. So

781
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,760
when Lufy finally arrives, Ace isn't gonna be there.

782
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so shows up. They were just a little bit late,

783
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,199
you see Jinba there just letting him know, like you're late,

784
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,199
and they're kind of like, crap, we spent all this

785
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,239
time kind of going down here, like what.

786
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 5: Are we gonna do?

787
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: So then.

788
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,119
Speaker 2: We find out that Crocodile is also on this level,

789
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,199
and he tells Lufy he's still mad at Lufy for

790
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,280
what he did and our fasta. But Crocodile sees this,

791
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,360
like pretty much everyone else, as an opportunity to leave.

792
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 5: So he ast.

793
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,199
Speaker 2: Get me out of here. I will help you, and

794
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:59,880
you know he I'm actually really surprised that Crocodile actually

795
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,679
didn't end up screwing Loofy over. He actually kept his

796
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,480
word for the most part.

797
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: There was a reason for that, though. Do you remember

798
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,320
what it was or.

799
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,039
Speaker 1: I can.

800
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,079
Speaker 4: This is something we've kind of teased about, I know,

801
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,880
in previous podcasts here. But so you know, initially, the

802
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,039
their sleeping guests coming onto the floor, they like have

803
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,880
to use the stairs to like plug that up with

804
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,840
like the snip snip fruit and stuff.

805
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: And because of that, they don't have a way out.

806
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: So Crocodile's like, you know, like you said, He's like,

807
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:30,000
I can get us out if you let me go.

808
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,599
But if von Kov has a little bit of blackmail

809
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:35,480
on him, right, he like he he knew Crocodile.

810
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: Crocodile was a rookie thing.

811
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, you know, I'll keep it quiet if

812
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,360
you Yeah, as long as you stick true to your words.

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,039
Speaker 1: So if van Kov is my favorite character because it

814
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,199
allows for thereas like Crocodile, And somehow over the years,

815
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,239
at first it's ridiculous, it's not true, it's just for fun. Somehow,

816
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,559
over the years I have fully convinced myself that now

817
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,400
used to be a woman. What are your thoughts beside it?

818
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,519
Speaker 2: You know, honestly I love that theory. If he was

819
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,760
like a woman, I think that would make me love

820
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,199
him or her or they even So.

821
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: It could be something like that, It could be something

822
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:24,440
way less large, but there's definitely some type of Ivankov

823
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:25,679
thought something on him.

824
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: That's the fun part about the blackmail was he kept

825
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,719
it so uh vague that like it could be anything, right.

826
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: I let the theory the theorists still crazy.

827
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: So I mean it could be anything. But like the

828
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,239
people that say that Crocodile is like Lufy's mom is

829
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,039
the most ridiculous fucking ship of all.

830
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,599
Speaker 3: Time, that one's the funniest.

831
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,519
Speaker 4: But uh but yeah, to answer your question to side,

832
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,400
and like that's that's why he kind of I think

833
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,559
stayed in line there a little bit, right, Like you said,

834
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,400
you're surprised by it, but they got they got blackmail

835
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,719
on him, so you don't want to mess with Avankove.

836
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to mess with Avankove.

837
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: So he's quite strong as well. He can he can

838
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,480
put up a fight, yea. So they also break Jin

839
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:11,400
Bay out. Jim's like, I can help you. So obviously,

840
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,599
you know, at this point, kind of Loofy puts a

841
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,760
lot of trust in gin Babe, because you know, Jim

842
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,079
Bay does mention that you know, he he knows his brother,

843
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,679
he knows white Beard, and like he's willing to help.

844
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,840
So obviously Louviy needs all the help he can get

845
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,480
to just get out of here, because getting in was

846
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:31,000
hard enough, so getting out must be a lot harder.

847
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,360
Now that the now that the prison basically knows like

848
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,880
these people are are here, so we also get to

849
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,039
see where Buggy and uh mister three are at. They're

850
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,599
kind of causing a little bit of chaos up in

851
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:48,679
the upper levels as well. They're also freeing a lot

852
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,480
of the prisoners and they're like, we're gonna get out

853
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:54,880
of here so amidst all this chaos, so they end

854
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,119
up going all the way back to level four and

855
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,960
now they're kind of getting faced with everyone. Blackbeard ends

856
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,719
up showing up to Impel Down, to much surprise because

857
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,920
up until this point, Boa I believe it has been

858
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,320
the only warlord who is kind of step foot into

859
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,519
Impel Down. It's not an easily accessible, I guess place

860
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,760
to be. You have to grant a lot of permissions

861
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,519
to just be able to get into here. So Blackbeard

862
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:26,000
pulls up and we're at this point not really sure

863
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:29,840
why he's just there, and he kind of, you know,

864
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,199
fights the navy. They're like, oh, it's a warlord, you know,

865
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,320
don't you can't be here. He kind of knocks them

866
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,440
all out, and he also goes down to level four,

867
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,360
so you kind of see Loofy and Blackbeard and Blackbeard.

868
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:49,760
We find out Blackbeard tells Lufy like, actually, I was

869
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,280
supposed to capture you. It wasn't going to be a.

870
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,280
He was the initial target for Blackbeard, but because Loufy

871
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:03,159
and his friends got shot up in the sky during

872
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,280
at the beginning of Skypea, Blackbeard couldn't follow him. Like

873
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,079
the reason why Blackbeard was going after Loofy was because

874
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,280
Blackbird wanted the warlord title and he felt that it

875
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,320
was appropriate to get the person who defeated Crocodile and

876
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,360
basically stripped him of his title and turned him into

877
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,800
the government. So when he didn't see that asn't like

878
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,440
an opportunity anymore, he finds out that Ace is actually

879
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,719
after him because Whitebeard sent Ace after him, and he goes,

880
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,239
you know what, maybe I should turn an Ace instead.

881
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,119
So that is why Ace ended up getting imprisoned in

882
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:47,039
his upper execution, and it is because of Blackbeard. But

883
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,239
it kind of like it sucks just to find out

884
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,920
that it was Ace was actually never going to be

885
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840
the person. It was gonna be Loofy because of the

886
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:02,880
whole Skypee of stuff going on, he couldn't follow him.

887
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:03,639
Speaker 4: And just to kind of add to the pain there

888
00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,239
a little bit, like I think black Beard also mentioned

889
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,679
that like he kind of threatened Ace with Loofy, like

890
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,079
Lufy's existence, like because he knew that black Beard was

891
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,079
after Lufy and you know, could kill his brother.

892
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,159
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons.

893
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 4: Like Ace wasn't going to back off, right, Like, no

894
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,400
matter kind of what happened, regardless.

895
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Ace was hunting down black Beard. Yeah him, no matter what.

896
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,639
But yeah, now Lufy had that extra little bit of

897
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:27,400
guilt like it should have been me. I should have

898
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,760
been the one to fight him. M Yeah.

899
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 8: That kind of black is interesting, where like when he

900
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,880
first gets introduced, he always gets wrecked initially, like his

901
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,039
first the first kit Loofy does black Beard like, but

902
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:43,840
then he's very black Beard's very sturdy.

903
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: He didn't take a ton of damage, but he's kind

904
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,079
of like, I don't know what the word is for it.

905
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: It's too many pies and stuff. Like, you know, he's

906
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,519
not always training, but like he is strong at the

907
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:54,280
end of the day, right.

908
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: I feel he's so strong and so sturdy, but he

909
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:00,440
leaves himself like open and he's not ready for the

910
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,360
initial battle.

911
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a he's a slow starter. Yeah, I guess

912
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,840
you could say, yeah, yeah, it's chaos in the prison

913
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,480
at this point, right, because at one point you have

914
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:13,000
black Beard showing up at the entrance all unannounced.

915
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,119
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, he's not supposed to be there.

916
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 4: You have Mister three and Buggy kind of causing chaos

917
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,159
and like floor two, and then you know, Straw hating

918
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:22,840
them or making their way back up. So I think

919
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,360
they're at like floor four at one point, and then

920
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,920
you know, everything kind of eventually meets and whatnot. But

921
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,320
it's just things are happening all over, right, was ready

922
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,880
to call it. He's like, I'm just I'm just gonna

923
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,519
go I might just go home, like.

924
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: He's ready to give up.

925
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,199
Speaker 1: Recon comes to my chat and says one Piece sucks

926
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
balls and this is why he always gets banned. And

927
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,760
on that note, we're gonna give Recon a fat bag.

928
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:57,079
You'll be missed, like almost timing out Marcus. No one

929
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:58,159
say anything on chat there we.

930
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 3: Go Marcus catching strays.

931
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Anyway.

932
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, so after one Piece or after a black

933
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,679
Beard and Lufy fight for a bit and then Lufy

934
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,320
moves on, black Beard fights Magellan. Is that right beside

935
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,719
there is that kind of what happens next her?

936
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he and Lufy decide to not or he

937
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,320
decides to actually not fight Lufy. He is just like,

938
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,320
you know, I will save this.

939
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: For another time.

940
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: I have something I want to get done, and I'm

941
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,960
gonna get it done, which we'll find out later. So

942
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,760
Magellan is also here. He's now like black Beard, you're

943
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,519
not supposed to be here, and with an easy just

944
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:48,840
swipe of his devil fruit like just drowns almost like

945
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,039
his entire crew in venom, and they are all like screaming,

946
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,320
They're all like on the floor, they're like about to die.

947
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:00,920
So then we kind of go forward into the kind

948
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,719
of they're going now up Louvi and the rest of

949
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,840
his you know, his current crew, not the straw Hats,

950
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,159
but the people he had gathered up until this point.

951
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,519
They make it up. They meet up with I believe,

952
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,400
I think Buggy and mister two, and at this point

953
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,840
Buggy and Mister two are also almost gathering their whole crew.

954
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,039
They have like a whole Buggy has his like his

955
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:29,239
glazers up there. Oh yes, yeah, they they are they

956
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,880
Buggy will do something and he won't even intentionally do it.

957
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,039
And then the prisoners who are like we, oh you

958
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:39,800
are life Buggy. They're like just hyping them up. They're like,

959
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,719
oh my god, yes, yes, Buggy, you're the best. You

960
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,760
talk trash to that wax wall. You know, it's it's

961
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:55,360
it's so funny. So they eventually yes, yeah, hiss was crazy,

962
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:58,000
Like Buggy will do nothing, and then everybody just loves

963
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,159
him for some reason. You know, it's it's hilarious. I

964
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:03,880
think it's fun. It's a really funny gag for sure,

965
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,199
but oh god, what was I gonna say?

966
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,599
Speaker 5: Uh?

967
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,519
Speaker 2: They eventually kind of get through there, They get through,

968
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:20,159
They get out of the prison and find out that

969
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,880
there's no like no boats. Why.

970
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,519
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite moments in the arc when

971
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,840
it's like you have all the chaos happening inside, all

972
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,159
the things that hold them inside and torture them and

973
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,639
keep them jailed, and then like they finally escape and

974
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,039
there's not a ship in sight, and you realize the

975
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,480
strongest defense of the jail is the fact that it's

976
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,920
in the middle of the fucking ocean. All these the

977
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,760
calm belt, the strong, all these strong devil fruit users.

978
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:50,239
All these strong people use devil fruits so they can't swim.

979
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,360
And even if you can't swim. You're not swimming across

980
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,039
the fucking ocean unless you're ralely, especially not across the

981
00:50:55,039 --> 00:51:00,559
calm belt with what's it called with seekings everywhere like

982
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,519
what a goaded? I love him down And honestly, they

983
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:09,000
also calm silence when they when they finally exited, and

984
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:10,559
it's like one of my favorite parts of the arc.

985
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: They also got kind of lucky because the the other

986
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,280
warden that uh that got released in order to try

987
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
to help, and he started causing chaos as well, right,

988
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,840
so he destroyed like the communications.

989
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, outside.

990
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget.

991
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention him because he's actually quite important too,

992
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,880
because he was the head jailer. But they ended up

993
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,280
actually sending him all the way down to level six

994
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,199
because he was he was just killing his cowork like

995
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440
he was just slaughtering them. It's a very very violent man.

996
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,679
So Loufy and the rest of the crew that ended

997
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,639
up breaking out are like, what the hell are we

998
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,639
gonna do because there's no ships in sight. There's nothing

999
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:57,880
that you can do. And then here's jin Bay going

1000
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
I need there's ships there, but they're like all the

1001
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,159
way out, like you could see them a little bit,

1002
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:07,039
but they're definitely not like a loofy can stretch his

1003
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,599
arm and get onto it right length. They're pretty far away.

1004
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,599
So Jinbay does this thing where he's like, I need

1005
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,599
you guys to trust me, and you guys to trust me,

1006
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,440
and he goes into the water and he's somehow like

1007
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,559
I can't remember exactly what he did. I think he

1008
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:28,519
kind of made everybody jump in and.

1009
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,079
Speaker 4: He carried a door and yeah he uh, he carried

1010
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:32,679
the big three off to.

1011
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: One of those ships.

1012
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,119
Speaker 4: I kind of launched him at it right the you

1013
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,559
got number one, you got crocodile, and you got buggy.

1014
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 7: So I thought sharks, Oh.

1015
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:42,119
Speaker 3: He did that there after.

1016
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 4: Initially he had them kind of take out the people

1017
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,199
on the ship and then uh, and then he called

1018
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,880
out the the whale sharks or what have you, whatever

1019
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,000
they were that uh to help everybody else get over there.

1020
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:59,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that happens. You know, everybody they

1021
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,639
ended up clearing I think one Navy ship and they

1022
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:06,800
are able to get everyone out. Now, this is where

1023
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,679
we have another issue is that impel Down is also

1024
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,519
surrounded by a huge, really tall wall, so you have

1025
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:18,360
to have authorization to open the gate in order to

1026
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,400
leave Impel down, which obviously they cannot get. So they're

1027
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,960
all like kind of like, what are we gonna do?

1028
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:32,199
And for some reason, the gate opens and everybody is like,

1029
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:37,719
what the hell what is going on? And come to

1030
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,400
find out because Jinbay slipped, he knew about this, but

1031
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:46,119
he was advised not to say anything until they were out,

1032
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:53,000
bond Clay ended up staying behind, impersonating Magellan and letting

1033
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,360
his like the jailers know to open the gate, and

1034
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,519
they were all like wait why, but you know obviously

1035
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:02,599
if the is saying open the gate, you open the gate.

1036
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,920
So bon Clay stayed behind so everyone else could escape,

1037
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,559
knowing that this could be the end of his life

1038
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,719
like this was he knew full well that he could

1039
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,360
get he could die, like Bangellen could kill.

1040
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 5: Him for this mm hm.

1041
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: And you have Jin Bay was telling Lufy like I

1042
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,480
told bon Clay told me not to tell you until

1043
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,800
we were out. So then Lufy is like, I give

1044
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,880
me the transponder snail right now, because I have one,

1045
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:35,440
and so.

1046
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 5: Does bon Clay.

1047
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: And here's bond Clay like Lufy's like, no, we're gonna

1048
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,840
go back. We have to get him, and Jin Bay's

1049
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,760
reminding Lufy like we it was so hard for us

1050
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,840
to get out. We can't go back. We have to

1051
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,800
leave him, like this is what he wanted, and you go.

1052
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,320
He talks to bond Clay on the phone and bon

1053
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,760
Clay was like, strawboy, go and save your brother. Don't

1054
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,000
worry worry about me, say your.

1055
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: Brother sacrifice wasn't enough.

1056
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, von Clay is like go and I had to

1057
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,480
like pause the episode and I was crying. I was like,

1058
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:17,440
oh my God, like bon Clay and bon Cley letting

1059
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:21,400
like Lufy know that he has no regrets and that

1060
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,400
one day they are going to meet again, and I

1061
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:26,119
was just like stop.

1062
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: But then even after that, Magellan's like any last words

1063
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,599
and I think he said satisfaction or something like that

1064
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,360
he doesn't have any regrets. But like, yeah, is that

1065
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,239
the end of bond Clay.

1066
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you bon Clay. He's fully willing to fight back

1067
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,280
against Magellan too. So that was that was definitely a

1068
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:53,480
very very sad moment on We also come to find

1069
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:57,719
out that cheer You, the head jailor, gives Blackbeard and

1070
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,800
his crew the anti venom to be able to survive

1071
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:07,760
and decides to join a Blackbeard, which God damn it

1072
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,320
just like it's moments like this, I'm like, damn, there

1073
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,599
was so many opportunities that Blackbird probably should have been

1074
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:17,760
dead but ends up somehow getting out of this just barely,

1075
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,760
barely alive.

1076
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 4: I can't wait realists flood armor all around.

1077
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, go ahead.

1078
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see shear you versus Zoro. I

1079
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,519
feel like it's gonna happen. I believe.

1080
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: He has a sword, but uh, but I guess just

1081
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,920
one more thing on Bond Clay. As as far as

1082
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,719
being the MVP of this arc, I mentioned earlier, I

1083
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,400
didn't want to gloss over him, like kind of tricking

1084
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:49,599
Honya Bell as he transformed into Nami and whatnot, right,

1085
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,639
and you know, immediately after that, he acted like he

1086
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,679
was Honya Bell and uh, he acted like he was

1087
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,000
injured and things like that. And it was at that

1088
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,400
moment that he like touched Magellan's face, right, because he

1089
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,039
has to touch the face of like the person that

1090
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,400
he is going to transform into. So it's like all

1091
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,000
the way back to then, like he was kind of yeah,

1092
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,280
he's always kind of doing whatever he can to like

1093
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,840
prepare what might need to be done, and like if

1094
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,079
he didn't do that, like imagine how hard it is

1095
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:18,199
to touch Magellan's face, right, So he wouldn't have been

1096
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:19,639
able to even make that sacrifice.

1097
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 7: So that real MVP.

1098
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:23,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly the m VP.

1099
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 1: I think there's even a moment on I think level

1100
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,880
four or five where Blonclay has a moment where he

1101
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,039
like sacrifices himself again in a way or like, oh

1102
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:35,559
my god.

1103
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,519
Speaker 4: He's fighting all the wolves right bloofy unconscious, like just

1104
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,920
trying to find you know, Bostom, what's of hope like

1105
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,800
I von Kov or.

1106
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:49,719
Speaker 1: Whatever Boncle Like in my top five favorite characters, I

1107
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,800
think he's up there. He's your favorite right out there.

1108
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:55,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Robin's always gonna be my number one, but

1109
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,840
he definitely shot up there for me. He's such a

1110
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:05,360
great character, like he loyalty and love he had shown

1111
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,599
to Lufy, like it's just it. It makes me so

1112
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:12,119
sad to see him. I mean, I don't think we

1113
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:17,119
have any confirmation that he's like not alive, because the

1114
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:20,519
last moment we saw was just him ready to fight Magellan.

1115
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:23,760
So for all I know, he could just he could

1116
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,079
still be an impel down alive.

1117
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,599
Speaker 4: You know which, which is almost worse than death right

1118
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:29,760
and we saw him there.

1119
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: But I mean you never know.

1120
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: You don't know a couple of things we need to

1121
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,599
talk about before we do wrap up. According to Chat one,

1122
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,639
why are the gates so massive? I mean, I don't know,

1123
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,079
why are they so massive?

1124
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:46,519
Speaker 3: Hit talking about the Gate of Justice or whatever.

1125
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,679
Speaker 4: It's a giant gate that like connects the three major

1126
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,159
I feel like maybe headquarters simple down?

1127
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:54,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and which.

1128
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: So the realisted me or like the someone time to

1129
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,639
be logical would be like the currents are large, therefore

1130
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:01,960
the door or entryway needs to be large because of

1131
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,559
how big the current is or something like that.

1132
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:06,079
Speaker 3: Yes, why is.

1133
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:09,519
Speaker 1: It like however my actual belief? No, I'm kidding, like

1134
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:13,280
like a super fun belief. Remember those mystical creatures near.

1135
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,599
Speaker 3: They made the.

1136
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,079
Speaker 7: Doors Kriller bar in the triangles.

1137
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: Back nine hundred years ago. They were the way to

1138
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:24,360
use the doors.

1139
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: That's a good question from the chat because if it's

1140
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,400
taking them six hundred years to build that bridge, how

1141
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,960
long did it take them to build those doors?

1142
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 5: It is us crazy.

1143
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: Those things are pretty big. It's two. You're not wrong.

1144
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,239
Speaker 1: We didn't mention that Loofy lost many many years of

1145
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:40,920
his life in order to survive.

1146
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it was like yes or so,

1147
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,400
because the hormones cut the lifespan, right.

1148
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,719
Speaker 9: Which better than dying though, right, So it's yeah, so

1149
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,719
we know that he's probably not living a super super

1150
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,280
long life and it's important to kind of know that

1151
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,719
or note that three you forgot to mention the zone

1152
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,800
b that and then being the first mention of awakened

1153
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,599
devil fruits.

1154
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I was going to bring up.

1155
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the four guards with the menotaur and whatnot.

1156
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,719
That's what they're They're not any slackers either or slouches.

1157
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:15,559
I guess you could say that was like one of

1158
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:18,199
the first mentions of a awakened devil fruits that I

1159
01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:23,679
think we've seen, right, So, yeah, I feel.

1160
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: Like Magellans was awakened, but maybe they didn't mention it.

1161
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,199
Speaker 4: It. It very well could be, but I don't think

1162
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:30,719
they mentioned it.

1163
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,159
Speaker 1: If it is because they had like multiple different forms

1164
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:34,880
for a paramesia, which tends.

1165
01:00:34,639 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 7: To like a hydra and stuff, Yeah, but maybe not.

1166
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,679
Speaker 1: We do know, though, those zones awakened their devil fruits,

1167
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:45,079
which is kind of like mastery or taking it to

1168
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,400
the next level of the fruit more than just its

1169
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,079
basic form.

1170
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is I mean, that's that's a detail I

1171
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:53,679
didn't catch until I read through it again today, Like

1172
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:55,039
I would not have been able to tell you that.

1173
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: But so, why were they awakened zones?

1174
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:57,119
Speaker 4: Well?

1175
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:58,079
Speaker 1: Can they do that made them?

1176
01:00:58,239 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: I think it had something to do with Sadie.

1177
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,519
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, like she just kind of awakens something

1178
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:04,519
in you. You know, it might be devil fruits for

1179
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:05,480
some people, right, So.

1180
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts on the arc beside.

1181
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: And I honestly thought this was a really solid arc.

1182
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,000
I didn't really have any issues with it when it

1183
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:19,719
came like pacing or just like irritating moments or like

1184
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,880
I didn't really have any of those, not that I

1185
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,400
have very many of those in the past arcs, there

1186
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,239
were like some pacing issues with for example like Skypea,

1187
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,559
or like there's just characters I just didn't vibe with,

1188
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,079
or just like, you know, felt like some stuff was

1189
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:35,719
a little bit unnecessary. But I feel like impel Down

1190
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:39,559
is such like a solid arc, and I think that,

1191
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,679
you know, it's it's definitely up there for me now.

1192
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,519
It's I think that also did such a good job

1193
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:52,760
at like showing that, you know, maybe Loufy isn't that powerful.

1194
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:55,920
You know, there's a ton of people who are much

1195
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,760
stronger than Lufy, and I think Lufy is also starting

1196
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,719
to realize that. I feel like Lufy was only able

1197
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,000
to get in and get out the way he was

1198
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,880
with the help of other people because he was gonna

1199
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,840
do it all by himself. He was ready to, like,

1200
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:14,519
you know, to to just get ace by himself. But

1201
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,440
he honestly wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for bond

1202
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,119
Clay and if it wasn't for Ivankov. He wouldn't have

1203
01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:22,960
been able to get out if it wasn't for Crocodile

1204
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,119
and Jinbay kind of helping clearing the path and all

1205
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:31,000
of that. So I think that, I mean, I think

1206
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,119
just moving forward, Lufy's gonna he's he definitely got humbled

1207
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:39,679
a lot during this arc and same with the future arc.

1208
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,880
But it's it's it's ramping up, and I'm starting to

1209
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,360
see like why everybody kind of goes to tell like,

1210
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,039
because I've been told between saba Ode and all the

1211
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:53,880
way into Marine Ford is what I was told. His

1212
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,159
peak one piece, Ye, like it's just so good and

1213
01:02:56,199 --> 01:03:00,719
I now understand why it's it's it's just such a

1214
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:03,880
build up to such an like I would even argue

1215
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,800
probably one of the most the most important arc in

1216
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,320
one piece.

1217
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I agree.

1218
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember catching up mid Marine third and going

1219
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,960
week to week on that was tortured.

1220
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: Was I can't imagine what it was like to the

1221
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,320
people who were watching it like at the time.

1222
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:28,239
Speaker 10: Live just like anyway, just a quick update, an awakened

1223
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,239
devil Fruit increases the abilities of the Fruit.

1224
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: They have greater power, more refined control, and often new

1225
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:40,039
abilities that were otherwise not possible before. Just to kind

1226
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:42,599
of give you a definition of that. My final thoughts

1227
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:45,199
on the arc. It's one of my favorites. I also

1228
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:51,519
I really love like more linear, enclosed arcs. For whatever reason,

1229
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,719
That's something I love in fiction and in video games.

1230
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,679
I know a lot of people are always like open world.

1231
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,679
I want open world. I want big islands with vast

1232
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,519
lore and world building and stuff like that. Something about

1233
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:10,280
an enclosed area with many layers just gets me. I

1234
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,360
just love it. I'm a huge fan.

1235
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: My add needs that. Otherwise.

1236
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,079
Speaker 4: You know, many open world games I just don't finish

1237
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:18,360
because I get distracted.

1238
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: Everyone loves open world, and don't get me wrong, elden

1239
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,159
Ring is fantastic, But there's something about like a Dark

1240
01:04:24,199 --> 01:04:28,360
Soul's One in comparison that's sewing closed. Dark Soul's One

1241
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:32,119
feels like impull Down in video game Poet. They're just

1242
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:35,960
always getting fucked, always getting tortured, and it's all linear,

1243
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,400
but it's not linear because it's all interconnected with layers

1244
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,559
above and below. Dark Soul's One is the impull Down

1245
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:43,480
of video games.

1246
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like they probably have some of

1247
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,840
the same inspirations I would assume, right, like the Seven

1248
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,840
Circles of Hell from like Dante's Inferno and things of

1249
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,920
that nature. Right, So it's it's the same thing, all right,

1250
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,159
We're going underneath the sea and there's all these layers

1251
01:04:57,239 --> 01:05:00,679
of just different tortures things that these people are going.

1252
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think sometimes people want open world

1253
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,840
because it has all these different environments and things going on,

1254
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:09,679
but they I would have managed to do that within

1255
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,760
a fixed environment, with every level having different environments, new enemies,

1256
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:15,840
and things just constantly shifting.

1257
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,159
Speaker 4: Can you imagine a one piece game where it's open world.

1258
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:25,559
This world's so big, but yeah, I get Losco and

1259
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:26,320
Island to island.

1260
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: I need anomia me.

1261
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, I need to know where some of these

1262
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,800
islands are at. I think we also, I can't remember

1263
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,719
if it was between impell Down and Marine Ford or

1264
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,239
it was during impel Down. But we also did get

1265
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,440
a little bit of like, you know, what's going on

1266
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:47,519
with the straw Hats, because we kind of we found

1267
01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:49,360
out at the beginning where they were, but then we

1268
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,360
also kind of almost like get like an update episode

1269
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,599
to see how they're doing. So Robin gets imprisoned, she

1270
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:59,119
gets captured trying to defend some of the kid and

1271
01:05:59,159 --> 01:05:59,440
some of.

1272
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: The ladies who were locked up.

1273
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: Chopper kind of gets taken in by the birds, the

1274
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,599
big birds. I can't remember exactly what happened with usop,

1275
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:17,199
if I'm being really honest, non surviving. He's surviving. The

1276
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:20,880
weather Wizard, you know, she not me, accompanies him to

1277
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,639
believe to go like help a town, and not me

1278
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,000
is just so like fascinated by the way he's able

1279
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:30,400
to manipulate the elements and weather that she, you know,

1280
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,239
ends up being like, you know, instead of me trying

1281
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,320
to go back to Sabaud, I think I'm gonna stay

1282
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,880
a little longer to see if I can, you know,

1283
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,920
if you could teach me how you know, you use

1284
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,719
all of these like almost how you manipulate you know,

1285
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,199
the weather.

1286
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:43,679
Speaker 6: Uh.

1287
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: Zora and Parona are kind of having their little ocenanigans.

1288
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,159
Pirona's wanting to make Zoro into a servant because you know,

1289
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,199
Kumassi is not really exactly there anymore, so she kind

1290
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:56,400
of like wraps him up and puts Hi I think

1291
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,239
in a Kumassy suit, uh and tells him to act

1292
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,239
like Kumasi, and he's he's just not having any of it.

1293
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:05,920
So you kind of have like that little banter there.

1294
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:13,639
Frankie gets turned into fancy Frankie. He's a fancy lad

1295
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,440
And I can't honestly exactly remember what's going on with

1296
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:20,480
Brooke Brook.

1297
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: Like summoned to it like as a de end on

1298
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,199
an island and then now he's a performer or something.

1299
01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Soanji gets is getting chased by the

1300
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:33,960
ladies on this island, which we also, I believe we

1301
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,559
do also find out that Ivankov is technically the queen

1302
01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:39,360
of this island.

1303
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: The comment Kingdom's just running.

1304
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: Running, Soanji's running, He's just running away, and they're all

1305
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:52,760
telling him to kind of, you know, accept his feminine side.

1306
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 5: And it's it's really funny.

1307
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,039
Speaker 2: It's it's hilarious because you know, you see Sonji, they're like,

1308
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:58,599
oh my god, I landed in the perfect place. And

1309
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:00,679
he finds out he's like, mine, I want to get

1310
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:01,119
out of here.

1311
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: The craziest thing about like the little updates too, is

1312
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,000
it kind of reminds me, reminds you how quickly like

1313
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,639
impull Down happens. It's like, you know, it took them

1314
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:14,400
like four days to get there from from from BoA's

1315
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,079
Island and whatnot, but like it all happens so fast, right, well,

1316
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:21,079
all these updates are happening with everybody else. Lufy's gone

1317
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:23,079
through the entirety of the impil Down arc, right, so

1318
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:26,319
it's things are not slowing down in his arenas.

1319
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1320
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 4: So this whole, this whole saga just feels like a

1321
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,680
downward slope goes so fast.

1322
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no it does. And uh, I can't wait

1323
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,319
to talk about Marine Ford.

1324
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: If you could fry and do it next week since

1325
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,600
you finished it all while it's still fresh.

1326
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,319
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I believe I should have time next week.

1327
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,199
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk and we'll talk in the in the

1328
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:51,319
group chat and figure out what day works for everyone.

1329
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,239
But we could kind of aim for like a Tuesday,

1330
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,279
Wednesday or Thursday or Tuesday or Wednesday at around the

1331
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:57,600
same time five six o'clock.

1332
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Tuesday's heart. There's harder for me because

1333
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:06,439
I don't get out of class to like four pm. Yeah, well,

1334
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,600
in for Wednesday. Then if that is the case, which

1335
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,479
I don't, I don't have a problem with Wednesday.

1336
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 4: Cool cool, cool, stay in school, stay in school case, Yeah,

1337
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,199
unless you're skipping to watch one Piece or something like that.

1338
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,199
Speaker 2: Well, I forgot to mention. There was also a really

1339
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:25,039
funny moment at the end of this arc where there

1340
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:27,279
was a transponder snail on the ship and it's a

1341
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:31,520
marine guy and he exposes to everybody that Buggy was

1342
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,079
part of Goldie Rogers Crew and he is affiliated with

1343
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,399
Shanks in some way, and everybody on there is like

1344
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,560
freaking out. They're like, oh my god, we had no idea,

1345
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,239
and here's Buggy kind of like what what you guys

1346
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:45,640
weren't supposed to know that stop stuff. He doesn't want

1347
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,600
anybody to really know. So I believe there was also

1348
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,880
an interaction between Loofy and Buggy because Lufy had told

1349
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,920
Buggy like, oh, I uh before this, I was with Rayley,

1350
01:09:57,079 --> 01:09:59,640
and Buggy's like, oh, I hope he's doing well. So

1351
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,279
you see a little bit of that relation, a little

1352
01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:04,720
bit of a connection between those two characters.

1353
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:09,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're just casually talking about these legendary figures, right,

1354
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:11,319
and it just for all these other people that are

1355
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:14,039
looking from the outside in. It's putting Buggy on this pedestal.

1356
01:10:14,119 --> 01:10:17,840
So leaderships did at one hundred, I told you, naturally

1357
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,680
charismatic man.

1358
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: He's rallying in the troops.

1359
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:22,520
Speaker 2: He really isn't trying to be, which I think is

1360
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,239
so funny.

1361
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: He kind of leans into it at the part that

1362
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,000
you're talking about a little bit because everybody else is like,

1363
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,760
we don't want to go there, and he's like, hold up,

1364
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,600
I could use this. He's like, guys were going there,

1365
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,439
I'll use this chance to kill white Beard. And like

1366
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,359
I said, it rallies the troops all.

1367
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted to leap. They didn't want to Buggy,

1368
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,560
and he didn't want to go to Marine Ford because

1369
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,920
he knew what was going to go on. But he

1370
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,079
doesn't really have another choice other than you know, and

1371
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,439
we also see Crocodile here, He's like, I also want

1372
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:52,479
to take out white Beard.

1373
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 4: So that's that's the funny thing about him helping out

1374
01:10:56,079 --> 01:10:58,279
Loofy and whatnot. All throughout in pull Down is a

1375
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:00,439
lot of it's accidental, like he was ready to chim

1376
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,880
right from the get go, right and then uh like

1377
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,800
even whenever he got launched onto the boat with Crocodile

1378
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,159
and number one, he's like, of course it's safer with

1379
01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:11,840
a you know, with these two former warlords, and it

1380
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,720
is you know over there where Magellan's gonna get you,

1381
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,920
like you freaking idiots while you stand back there. So

1382
01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:19,840
like the entire time, he's just being opportunistic, right like

1383
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,479
he's always very self serving.

1384
01:11:22,399 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: But it works out, So it works out. Yeah, great character.

1385
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: I love Buggy Buggy. I do think it's actually still

1386
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:29,880
my number one favorite character.

1387
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 3: He's one of them.

1388
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: He is what do you call that, like a foil

1389
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,640
to looky in like the perfect way, right, like not

1390
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,439
only with their fruits, as you know, Loofy. The only

1391
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,600
thing that really hurts him is if you cut, whereas

1392
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,239
Buggy it's the opposite, right, like only blunt force works

1393
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,880
on Buggy and then their personality is the same, right,

1394
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,319
They're just kind of foils for one another.

1395
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:52,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will I will say one piece is

1396
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,199
that show where everyone has ten favorite characters in their

1397
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:58,760
top five, and everyone has two or three favorite characters, Like, oh,

1398
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,319
Buggy's my favorite character, so do my favorite character? Bond

1399
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:03,960
Clay's in my top five? But what about Lufi and Zo,

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Roland and a much other characters I don't want to mention, Like,

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oh my god, there's a million characters that are like

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I love them all. They're all, I guess in my

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top ten, but like, oh my god, Buggy is Buggy's

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Olda's favorite character, and I think he's He's mine as well.

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Speaker 2: Yggy's definitely a silly dude.

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Speaker 3: He's no Bond Clay, but he's up there.

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Speaker 2: He's Yeah, but I'm excited for Marine Ford. It's uh

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my thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: I will say for the next episode.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be yapping for a long time the next week.

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Speaker 5: I'll block out like two hours.

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Speaker 1: We talked for over an hour ten this week. So

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I hope, I hope everyone enjoyed today's episode of the

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One Piece Virgin Podcast. Huge thanks to Poseidon for watching

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One Piece and sharing your thoughts with us, and huge

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thank you Jordan for always making the time to help

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me out here and yeah, okay and keeping this podcast going.

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I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun time. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 7: Of course, I'm glad you're enjoyed episode.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I honestly, I think One Piece has

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become my favorite anime, which is good because, like I

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Monica Monica is my favorite anime of all time and

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it has been for like the past like almost fifteen years,

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I want to say, and or ever since it got released,

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so it it would have taken a really good anime

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to be able to top that one for me, and

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I think One Piece has definitely cemented itself as my

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favorite anime now.

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Speaker 1: Ikesis she finished all of Marine Ford as well, so

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we're gonna try to do that next week. Also, Jordan,

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you have homework to do for this weekend. Hopefully we

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get it done. I've watched six episodes of new anime.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying waiting until I get my best Okay, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Trying to watch.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch six more. My goal is to

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watch twelve different shows from this season. So we have

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a nice conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't watch anime so far, so.

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Speaker 1: We're just watching the first episode. We're watching the first episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of seasonals, I've still watched zero up to this point.

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Speaker 3: But I will get it done. I'll watch at least

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a couple. They're all so bad.

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Speaker 1: They're all so bad. It's like two good animes i've

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watched so far and four terrible ones.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I only watched seasonals really because of

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you guys. I feel like other than that, I'd normally

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like let the season finish and then I'd go back

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and yeah, and then like pick one or two and

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I'm like these look good, and then that's typically how

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I would do it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. I hope everyone enjoyed shimpock you and I'll see

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you all next time later