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Speaker 2: Morning Crew on a Monday morning, October twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: And oh, do we have a day to day?
Speaker 2: Do we have a week this week to talk about
Speaker 2: what's happening? Because week from tomorrow is the election. And
Speaker 2: if we thought the twenty twenty election was scrambled and
Speaker 2: just a mess was made out of it in terms
Speaker 2: of who was elected and who was not, let me
Speaker 2: tell you what's going to happen next Tuesday. First of all,
Speaker 2: all the problems that we had within the election process
Speaker 2: are going to be multiplied, and I'm going to talk
Speaker 2: more about that probably tomorrow. You know, there already been
Speaker 2: one hundred lawsuits already filed, have already been filed, a
Speaker 2: hundred of them by Republicans, and I'll talk more about
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Also, what's really going up there is the
Speaker 2: hacking President former President Trump's phone was hacked. A false
Speaker 2: video is running around the internet showing ballots being burned
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: National security officials.
Speaker 2: Saying that US adversaries may incite violence protests after the
Speaker 2: election day. We're not talking about Republicans versus Democrats. We're
Speaker 2: not about pro Trump versus pro Harris. We're talking about foreigners.
Speaker 2: The Russians, particularly Chinese not so much, but really the
Speaker 2: Russians are the bad guys here. And this shows how Russia, China,
Speaker 2: to a smaller extent, Iran big Time have increased the
Speaker 2: pace of their efforts to meddle in our politics, just
Speaker 2: the way intelligence officials have said, that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, at the same time, since we.
Speaker 2: Know about it, you've got the officials, tech companies and
Speaker 2: researchers are already in a much more aggressive defensive mode,
Speaker 2: and they're exposing quickly these foreign election threats, highlighting what's
Speaker 2: learned in the last few elections, particularly the last one.
Speaker 2: Now officials say the US election is secure, so secure
Speaker 2: that no foreign nation could actually alter the results at
Speaker 2: a scale necessary to change the income.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because you know the lawsuits, you know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. But what you have is adversaries.
Speaker 2: US advertaries have leveraged disinformation, cyber espionage to target target
Speaker 2: campaigns and voters. And I'm talking about both sides, not
Speaker 2: just Trump or Kamala Harris. Depending on the interests of
Speaker 2: a foreign country. It is both sides. Iran hates Trump
Speaker 2: and is doing everything you can and pushing into cyber
Speaker 2: attacks and disinformation and memes in favor of Harris because
Speaker 2: Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal does not like Iran.
Speaker 2: Harris is much more of a peacenick. And that's in quotes. Russia,
Speaker 2: of course loves Trump. And why well, because Trump likes Putin.
Speaker 1: It's that simple.
Speaker 2: Trump genuinely feels that United States, the services, the intelligence
Speaker 2: services for example, and the deep State are far more
Speaker 2: dangerous to the US than is Putin and Russia.
Speaker 1: So it goes both ways.
Speaker 2: And so you see the Kremlins disinformation program, what are they? Immigration, crime,
Speaker 2: the economy, the disaster relief which the Trump folks are
Speaker 2: attacking like crazy. If you look at the anti Harris
Speaker 2: Biden Harris campaign and how they've handled this disaster relief,
Speaker 2: and you know that the administration has been attacked over
Speaker 2: over again. Money isn't flowing for disaster relief. The money
Speaker 2: has been taken and gone for illegal immigration. A lot
Speaker 2: of that is from Russia. A lot of that is
Speaker 2: from Russia. So you have a situation, Well, let me
Speaker 2: give you an idea. Let me give you an example.
Speaker 2: A couple of examples. Russia staged a video and this
Speaker 2: is been confirmed by US intelligence officials that accuses Harris
Speaker 2: of paralyzing a woman in a car crash years ago.
Speaker 2: Another one is making allegations against Tim Walls. The FBI
Speaker 2: confirmed Russia created a third video that just came out
Speaker 2: showing the destruction of male ballots in Pennsylvania. You see
Speaker 2: that with a guy tearing up Trump literally tearing up
Speaker 2: Trump votes, and local election officials debunked it as false,
Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter because people believe it, because how
Speaker 2: many people believe in what they see on the internet
Speaker 2: versus any news because news is false, news is fake,
Speaker 2: but Joe Rogan is true, and that's what we're getting.
Speaker 2: Russia has also tried to pay American influencers. By the way,
Speaker 2: that is not just an allegation, because we know that
Speaker 2: two Russian state media employees funneled ten million dollars to
Speaker 2: an ascent to a Tennessee company to create pro Russian content.
Speaker 1: That company then paid some right wing.
Speaker 2: Influencers, and the influencers, when they were told, said they
Speaker 2: had no idea that their work was being supported by Russia,
Speaker 2: which I believe, because I believe Russia is that slimy
Speaker 2: and I'll take them at their word. Now, Iran is
Speaker 2: accused of, and it's true, hacking the Trump campaign, offering
Speaker 2: stolen communications to media organizations and Democrats. And there is
Speaker 2: a story out there that the Russians were sending emails
Speaker 2: dirt about about Trump, well dirt about yeah, about Trump,
Speaker 2: to people associated with the Biden campaign. That was back then,
Speaker 2: and at this point they didn't accept it. We don't
Speaker 2: know if that's true, but I'm taking them at their word.
Speaker 2: So we're looking at not only an election where it's
Speaker 2: homemade memes and videos that purport to show crazy, crazy
Speaker 2: stuff on both sides of this, but you got Russia, Iran,
Speaker 2: China to a lesser extent, jumping into So our election
Speaker 2: is not just among candidates in the United States. It's
Speaker 2: all about Russia and Iran specifically. And we'll talk more
Speaker 2: about this coming up, and then next few days a
Speaker 2: little bit about what's going on in the world today.
Speaker 2: The LA Teachers Union has weighed in. They voted last
Speaker 2: Wednesdays to support a congressional effort to block the sale
Speaker 2: of weaponry to Israel twenty billion dollars worth on the
Speaker 2: grounds that these arms were being used against civilians and
Speaker 2: they are now the issue is and it goes far
Speaker 2: deeper than just you're using arms. Israel of course says, yes,
Speaker 2: civilians are dying. Yeah, we feel horrible about it. That's
Speaker 2: their position. But when Hamas invents itself in civilians, what
Speaker 2: do you expect us to do? So you have the
Speaker 2: United Teachers of LA voting to pledge their support, and
Speaker 2: this was calling for California centers Alex Padilla and Lafonza
Speaker 2: Butler to pledge their support for a government action called
Speaker 2: a joint resolutions Resolutions of disapproval. Bernie Sanders is heading
Speaker 2: this one, and it's to halt the sale of some
Speaker 2: armaments Israel, and that's supposed to be taken up by
Speaker 2: the Senate after the election. And here is the reasoning
Speaker 2: behind it, and this is union materials prepared for the
Speaker 2: Board of Directors meeting in which they voted to support
Speaker 2: this measure coming up, and it says that taking the stand,
Speaker 2: the arms named in the resolution are.
Speaker 1: Being used to indiscriminately.
Speaker 2: Kill large number of civilians, many of them children, which
Speaker 2: again is absolutely true. As educators, we've watched for a
Speaker 2: year as Israel has decimated the education system for current
Speaker 2: and future Palestinians, destroying every university in Gaza. True, forcing
Speaker 2: kids to attend schools and refugee.
Speaker 1: Camps or not at all.
Speaker 2: That's also true, and the union says it's our duty
Speaker 2: of educators to speak up for the protection of education
Speaker 2: and all young people and their families, especially when it's
Speaker 2: our tax dollars fueling this discretion destruction and our government
Speaker 2: providing the arms.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm okay with this, you know there,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Okay with the position, but I'm okay with a union
Speaker 2: resolving saying we're on one side or the other of
Speaker 2: this political issue. And also the union says it affects
Speaker 2: our members, many of them have loved ones who have
Speaker 2: lost their lives or livelihoods in Gaza due to this conflict.
Speaker 1: Of course, Israel is blaming.
Speaker 2: Hamas for all of the destruction, saying, hey, if you
Speaker 2: had an attacked us October seventh, and if you here's
Speaker 2: the other way. If Hamas decides tomorrow afternoon, okay, we
Speaker 2: recognize Israel and we guarantee there will be more, no
Speaker 2: more attacks that forces israel I believe to sit down
Speaker 2: and have some serious negotiations, but Comas won't do that.
Speaker 2: The destruction of Israel is still primary.
Speaker 1: The issue of.
Speaker 2: Hostages are still primary, and so that's the difference between
Speaker 2: the two parties.
Speaker 1: This is why nothing is happening.
Speaker 2: And as nothing is happening, Gaza is getting more and
Speaker 2: more destroyed by the day. Another attack just killed thirty
Speaker 2: three Palestinians in Gaza over the weekend, and a lot
Speaker 2: of those were kids, and it is horrific. Now, how
Speaker 2: far has the union gone? You're ready for this? There
Speaker 2: was a resolution that was introduced by and voted by
Speaker 2: a majority of UTLA members or the board criticizing the
Speaker 2: Jewish state and not condemning the Kammas atrocities. They just
Speaker 2: wanted to come out and say, Israel is that fault
Speaker 2: here and they're killing people and not even mentioning October seventh.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a member of the board who I'm assuming is.
Speaker 2: Jewish and that is anti Semitic, and he says, if
Speaker 2: this motion passes, not only will we lose many Jewish
Speaker 2: and Israel supporting members, but the negative pr will that
Speaker 2: results will be tremendous.
Speaker 1: And that's absolutely true.
Speaker 2: In September twenty twenty one, the Teacher's Union shelled that
Speaker 2: resolution that would have condemned Israel and supported Palestinians, and
Speaker 2: of course not even mentioning October seventh. Well, a substitute
Speaker 2: motion was then put into play, saying that we'll leave
Speaker 2: it open. We have to have discussions about the union's position.
Speaker 1: And by the way, that union isn't the UTLA is.
Speaker 2: Not alone in promoting these resolutions and saying that Israel
Speaker 2: has to stop. The Association of Flight Attendants, the American
Speaker 2: Postal Workers Union, the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades,
Speaker 2: National Education Association, the Service Employees International Union, United Auto Workers,
Speaker 2: the United Electrical Workers. So the unions seem to be well,
Speaker 2: at least the ones I talked about, seems to be
Speaker 2: pretty much on the side of what's going on in
Speaker 2: the Palestinian side. And it's not hard. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you know where I sit. I have friends in Israel.
Speaker 2: I've been to Israel half a dozen times. I had
Speaker 2: family members that live in Israel. Of course, I am
Speaker 2: of the Hebrewic American persuasion, so there are a bunch
Speaker 2: of reasons that I am pro Israel, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, you know, in terms of humanitarian aid that
Speaker 2: Israel is not allowing to go into Gaza and claiming
Speaker 2: that they are allowing to go into Gaza, and as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, claiming they are helping the humanitarian
Speaker 2: aid go into Gaza and being distributed. That kind of
Speaker 2: hippocracy is stunning. That is horrific. And upon international pressure,
Speaker 2: I do believe the more humanitarian aid is coming into Gaza,
Speaker 2: they've opened up those passageways. But the attacks and guys
Speaker 2: that keep on going. And then we have Lebanon, that
Speaker 2: war is going, and then we have the attack on Iran,
Speaker 2: which I'm going to talk about later.
Speaker 1: And is it going to be a three front war
Speaker 1: for Israel.
Speaker 2: I don't think with the Iran, But frankly, I was
Speaker 2: kind of surprised that Lebanon unleashed all those A missiles
Speaker 2: just in solidarity with the Palestinians.
Speaker 1: That's it, not.
Speaker 2: Because Israel is attacking, not because Israel leaves Beirut alone.
Speaker 2: Israel is not interested in taking over that part of Lebanon.
Speaker 1: But you've got Hezbollah and the.
Speaker 2: Whole northern part of Israel has been evacuated because of
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: So, I mean it is crazy, It really is.
Speaker 2: You know, it's gotten to the point now where I
Speaker 2: think that those Arab countries have to be a little careful.
Speaker 1: They have to take into consideration what Israel is prepared
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Gaza is gone, it's been decimated. It will take generations
Speaker 2: to bring Gaza back. Southern Lebanon, be Root included, is
Speaker 2: on its way to being decimated.
Speaker 1: It's a tough way to go, all right. I want
Speaker 1: to do a story about housing.
Speaker 2: I always jump into housing because it's just one of
Speaker 2: those things that I'm interested in. And this has to
Speaker 2: do with Airbnb and Verbo vrbo and facing backlash against
Speaker 2: cities that are passing new ordinances saying you know what.
Speaker 1: You can't have, You can't use Airbnb. It's that simple.
Speaker 2: Short term rentals are not going to be allowed. It
Speaker 2: has to be over thirty days, and very few people
Speaker 2: rent or go to airb or Verbo over thirty days.
Speaker 2: And this is a story in CNN about Irvine, which
Speaker 2: passed ordinances saying short term rentals off the table.
Speaker 1: And they're not alone, by the way.
Speaker 2: A lot of cities are doing that because the argument
Speaker 2: is the more of these that are around the less
Speaker 2: there is housing available for people.
Speaker 1: Because it's real simple. Here's the equation.
Speaker 2: You take housing, affordable housing, or any kind of rental
Speaker 2: housing off the market long term housing, what do you get?
Speaker 1: You get short term housing, which gets in.
Speaker 2: The way, and therefore it lends itself to the issue
Speaker 2: of just simple not only housing affordability, just the number
Speaker 2: of houses are available.
Speaker 1: Well, it goes two ways. Number one. Irvine says, yeah,
Speaker 1: it works fine, no problem.
Speaker 2: We've had an increase in housing rentals as we decreased
Speaker 2: and eliminated Airbnb for short term rentals, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it goes the other way too,
Speaker 2: tell you right, Colorado, for example, did the same thing,
Speaker 2: and they didn't get any more housing because people have
Speaker 2: places and they're not going to give them up for rental,
Speaker 2: long term rental, just simply because they bought places. Neil,
Speaker 2: for example, has house up in the mountains somewhere. I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, the mountains of Big Bear or
Speaker 2: the Rockies or the Appalachians.
Speaker 1: I have no idea where it is.
Speaker 2: But Neil, here's the question. If you couldn't rent it
Speaker 2: out for short term, which you do, would you rent
Speaker 2: it out at all for long term? Would you want
Speaker 2: to be a landlord with it?
Speaker 1: Probably not. That's the whole point. That is what Airbnb
Speaker 1: is saying.
Speaker 2: Because we're not allowing because Irvine doesn't allow us to
Speaker 2: now short term rent the property. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: the property is going to be available for long term rent.
Speaker 2: Because people bought second homes. They buy vacation homes, and
Speaker 2: that's what they're primarily about, as in Neil's case, and
Speaker 2: Neil is not alone.
Speaker 1: Now let's go to tell your Ride Colorado.
Speaker 2: All right, no more Airbnb, no more Verbo or any
Speaker 2: of those other platforms. Therefore, housing is now going to
Speaker 2: be more affordable, there'll be more.
Speaker 1: Units out there.
Speaker 2: Well, people bought their places as vacation homes.
Speaker 1: And so they haven't gone on the market.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what did happen with the Airbnb
Speaker 2: being tossed out. Tourism went down. It affected the tourism industry.
Speaker 2: And tell your Ride, which is their industry. So it
Speaker 2: goes both ways. This is pretty complicated stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's easy for us to say, Okay, Airbnb is gone,
Speaker 2: no more short term rentals. Therefore it immediately equates to
Speaker 2: longer term rentals.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Michael Seller, a professional of finance and real estate, saying,
Speaker 2: you look at an area's economy in terms of whether
Speaker 2: you have short term rentals, you have to look at
Speaker 2: all the factors, the local housing market, the geographic location,
Speaker 2: the appeal to tourists.
Speaker 1: And we're not doing that. And in some cities it's working.
Speaker 2: In other cities it is not working, and so and
Speaker 2: we tend to look with a broad stroke. And sometimes
Speaker 2: city councils, and these city council are not the most
Speaker 2: sophisticated political organizations that exist, and there are too many
Speaker 2: people that are willing to look long term and look
Speaker 2: at the studies. Not in the city council, matter of fact,
Speaker 2: not even in the US Senate or the House. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people that just react. Matter of fact.
Speaker 2: Long term planners, I think are in the minority. And
Speaker 2: that's important stuff, all right, So much for that. I
Speaker 2: want to spend a minute talking about cyber attacks on
Speaker 2: US infrastructure and how worried we should be about it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Do you remember there was a storm that knocked out
Speaker 2: the largest gasoline pipeline in the country that was from
Speaker 2: Texas to New York and nearly seventeen thousand gas stations
Speaker 2: went dry.
Speaker 1: There was another one that happened.
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, actually twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 2: it was the Colonial gas pipeline that went out.
Speaker 1: Half of all the.
Speaker 2: Fuel consumed on the East Coast was disrupted for four days.
Speaker 2: It couldn't get gas. It was your typical gas lines, etc.
Speaker 2: Do you remember how bad that big that story was.
Speaker 2: Amy covered it and we were talking a lot about it.
Speaker 1: It was Russia that did it.
Speaker 2: Russian hackers shut down a pipeline for four days that
Speaker 2: produced oil for half the oil on the.
Speaker 1: Eastern seaboard, and Russia did it.
Speaker 2: And the US cyber warriors that are working on our side,
Speaker 2: of course, say that's just a taste of things to come.
Speaker 2: Foreign governments, gangs working under the protection foreign governments read Russia, Iran,
Speaker 2: China are getting into our system and not so much
Speaker 2: shutting down our systems now.
Speaker 1: Because they're not.
Speaker 2: What they're doing is getting ready to shut down our systems.
Speaker 2: There are plenty of hacks and they have not transferred
Speaker 2: into shutting down entire sections of our US infrastructure. What
Speaker 2: they're doing is they're basically doing dry runs. Earlier this year,
Speaker 2: Chinese hackers breached Verizon AT and T other telecoms, not
Speaker 2: to shut them down, but understand how these companies cooperate
Speaker 2: with authorities to track criminals, particularly the Chinese actors. Recent months,
Speaker 2: there has been an update, not only an update, but
Speaker 2: an uptick, but a steady drumbeat of these high profile
Speaker 2: cyber attacks, most minor distractions. Not much has happened except
Speaker 2: that we know now the cyber experts know that they
Speaker 2: are simply practicing These are all dry runs.
Speaker 1: There is a guy who is an expert on this.
Speaker 1: His name is Clark. What's his first name?
Speaker 2: I think Stephen Clark, and he is a professor and
Speaker 2: studies infrastructure at tennio's president of Security, Risk and April,
Speaker 2: and he goes hacking as old as the Internet itself.
Speaker 2: But the contest has evolved into a key front. It's
Speaker 2: just another theater of war. It's that simple air, land.
Speaker 1: Sea, space.
Speaker 2: Of course, we know space is going to be another
Speaker 2: point of warfare and cyber wars. And the cyber wars
Speaker 2: are actually the scariest because it's not just a front
Speaker 2: that we have to fight, it's our entire infrastructure system.
Speaker 2: Now can it all come down in a crash. Probably not,
Speaker 2: but a lot of it can. And are we doing enough?
Speaker 1: No? But here is the good news. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to now share with you.
Speaker 2: Actually there's a silver lining here which I never share
Speaker 2: because I only give you the crap, and that is,
Speaker 2: as these foreign governments are hacking into our infrastructure, we're
Speaker 2: hacking into their infrastructure.
Speaker 1: And it's back to the Cold War mutually.
Speaker 2: Assured destruction mad when we had thirty thousand nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Russia had thirty thousand nuclear weapons, which you need about
Speaker 2: a dozen to wipe out the entire planet. And the
Speaker 2: bottom line was, Okay, you attack us, we're going to
Speaker 2: attack you, and there'll be nothing left of this planet.
Speaker 2: And the same sort of philosophy is going you take
Speaker 2: out our infrastructure, we're going to take out your infrastructure.
Speaker 2: And since the entire world is based on the internet,
Speaker 2: other than you know in Yemen, South Sudan, where they
Speaker 2: eat sand for dinner and they don't have much going
Speaker 2: and their telephone lines are two cans with a string
Speaker 2: between them and there or smoke signals or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell they do. Short of that, it's mutually a shured destruction. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna blow it. We're not gonna blow each
Speaker 2: other up, but we're certainly not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: call each other. There'll be no phones, there'll be no computers,
Speaker 2: there'll be nothing. Do we really want to be in
Speaker 2: a world like that? Uh? And the answer is probably
Speaker 2: not unless you get some crazy people in charge. And
Speaker 2: even the craziest at this point Kim Jong Lunn, for example,
Speaker 2: who's about as nuts as they come, except he is
Speaker 2: pretty smart. I mean he was able to take over
Speaker 2: North Korea at the age of twenty eight. You know
Speaker 2: he can't be that dumb. Even he won't go that far.
Speaker 2: Will putin go that far? Well, actually he's gone further.
Speaker 1: Is it going to happen? I don't think so. But
Speaker 1: we're back to those days. And I thought we thought
Speaker 1: those days.
Speaker 2: Were over when the Cold War was done. It's just
Speaker 2: another Cold war. It doesn't stop.
Speaker 1: Boy, are we doing well?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Society has done so well When I was a kid,
Speaker 1: that was gonna be peace.
Speaker 2: There'll be food for everybody, There'll be cars flying around
Speaker 2: like the Jetsons were there by the way, everybody's gonna
Speaker 2: love one another. And then I stopped doing LSD and
Speaker 2: then I got a reality check. Okay kf I am
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