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Speaker 1: You are now listening to soft core history.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to software History. I'm your host for the week.

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Damageester joined us always by Rob Fox and Scott Lopez again.

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Speaker 3: Just went on a three day long quest to Northumberland.

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Speaker 2: How was it?

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Speaker 4: It was great? See any what'd you see a lot

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of pegasus? Oh wow, it's pegas high. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we call them pegasus in the realms. Okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know if there was a plural that was

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pegas high or it used to be not to sound

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like a used to be used to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one pegasust just one anymore? Uh yeah,

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big quest, same thing all the time, casting fireball and

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love magic and.

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Speaker 4: So it's either you make people fall in love or

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you burn them alive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah with fire. I only know two spells, so both ways. Yeah,

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it's love spell and fire.

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Speaker 2: But the love spell is also a fire spell. It

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so he knows once.

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Speaker 3: It ignites the fire in their souls.

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Speaker 4: Okah, but if you do it too strong to explode

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and flames, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Turn the ash.

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Speaker 4: Well, me and my wife are kind of like, I

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don't really have it anymore. I'm my next quest, can

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you if you could ignite some stuff. The quest is

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lined up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now my wife is pregnant, so please don't screw up. Yeah,

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oh absolutely not. You know what I mean? Because if

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she explodes in fire, that's two.

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Speaker 2: How's that insurance policy?

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Speaker 4: It's fine?

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Speaker 3: Do they cover wizarding spells?

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Speaker 2: I think that's an act of gods.

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Speaker 4: It's an act of satan.

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Speaker 3: If anything, I can come and make like tacos, first

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ever Mexican wizard.

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Speaker 4: You know, so if you accident immolate my wife an

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unborn child, you're offering to cater the wake fiestas. Dude,

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I guess younerally would even be awake.

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Speaker 3: I'll have a siesta. They we'll have a fiesta. Okay,

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deal out pastor? How's that big pastor guy?

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Speaker 4: She yournes Big pastor? I like some barber CoA. I

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can do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay. It's funny that we're talking about spells today, because

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that's a good transition for the topic. We're talking about

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a family a spiritualist that claim to have magic powers.

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Speaker 4: My people. Well, no, they only claimed to you.

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Speaker 2: You do I do, well, we're not sure if they

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do or don't.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, but.

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Speaker 3: I think I think ultimately its mean to decide at

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the end of this, I think so if they do have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll kind of put a pinion this and revisit

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at the end. Yeah, I think so did they have

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were they magical psychic and magical powers? Okay? Or at

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least did one of them have them? Fair enough, you know,

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kind of judge each character individually.

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Speaker 4: But I'm down.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the Bender family.

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Speaker 4: Is this the Cave family?

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Speaker 2: The what family?

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Speaker 4: Were they? Like? They murdered people and went to a cave?

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Speaker 2: No cave, damn it? Okay, but there is murder, but yes, murder, Yeah, yeah,

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all right. It is Halloween horn Knight's after all. But

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just after the Civil War ended, the United States government

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moved the Osage Indians from le Back County in southeast

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Kansas to the New Indian Territory, which would later become Oklahoma.

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Vacated lamb was then made available to homestead. In eighteen

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seventy five, families of spiritualists settled in this county, about

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seven miles northeast of where Cherry Vall would be plated

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a year later. One of these families was the Benders.

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This lovely group of individuals consisted of John Bender, Senior,

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his wife Almira, son John Junior, and daughter Kate.

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Speaker 4: What's funny is is that even though they moved them,

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I believe o Sage is still like it's called Osage

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in the part they made them leave, so they named it.

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Speaker 2: They were like, get out of here, we'll.

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Speaker 4: Call it Oa Sage because of those people we kick.

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Speaker 2: They were lazy back then. Yeah, I know, not a

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whole lot of originality. Like do we really want to

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come up with like a real name.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna call Yeah, like Kansas City would.

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Speaker 2: Like an homage to them? Yeah, it's called Osage. Would

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we kick out here? Got all right? Call it? Yeah,

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that's good enough.

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Speaker 3: I was very surprised in New York that, especially Long Island,

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half the the towns there are still like native named towns.

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Speaker 4: Everything's native name, even stuff you don't realize his native

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name is native name, Like Missouri is a native name.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that it means canoe people.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, it's better than canoe people. Yeah, canoe people

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sounds horrifically racist. Get these fucking canoe people out of here.

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It's just like we just liked them. What the fuck? Yeah,

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what did we have to do with anything? The fuck

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up your canoe people, hold the clock, durm canoe people.

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Speaker 3: I was staying in a place called Hogpog and it

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was spelled like hagey peggy but pronounced hogpag pag.

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Speaker 2: Was that in New Yorker?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, New York And it's like a native thing whatever.

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Speaker 4: It is all the Massachusetts suff I feel like, for

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the most part, like quack a paga quack. It's all

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fucking native.

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Speaker 2: I never would have known that, Neverqua Pennsylvania, Saskatchewan. Yeah,

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Saskatchewan is also in Canada or Saskatchewan, Uh, susquehannaquha either way.

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Speaker 4: But Pennsylvania though not it's pennon Quaker Sylvania.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the rest of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Northeast has the wildest Native American names for sure.

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Speaker 3: I never would have known that except for last week

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when I was there. It blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those ones are impossible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like in Missouri or like so Kansas for example,

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O Sage is one. Shawnee is another part of the

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Kansas side. Uh, stuff like that, Like it's you look

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at it and it's like relatively like a straightforward thing

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to pronounce.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Northeast is again.

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Speaker 3: I dated a girl in high school named Shawnee. I

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had no idea she was.

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Speaker 4: No, she was white trash, that she's name. Yeah, she

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just know she was just a garbage person.

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Speaker 3: She actually helped me pass Spanish one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, her name was Shawnee and she has a bedazzled

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Walmart jean jacket to that effect now I assume. Yeah,

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to this day, I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like every guy has that kind of spiritual guide that

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gets them through Spanish one. I had an ex girlfriend

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that did that good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't learn a single thing and she just

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like helps me get into Spanish too, where I just failed.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that's all I know. I know I

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took French.

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Speaker 3: I know pencil sharpener, you would take French. Yep, that's

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that's really funny. But the only reason I know, the

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only reason I know pencil sharpener is because the name

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is the word is sokka poun tas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it just sounds funny.

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Speaker 3: So my teacher was like, oh, yeah, this is a

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socca puntas, and I'm like, I'll remember that one.

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Speaker 4: Soka puntas isn't poonta like a derogatory term, pouta is pa?

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What are the vaxicines, yell at the goalie. That's like

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it's like calling him gay or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's something it's like calling him a pussy.

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Speaker 3: It's like bouso or something that's something like I couldn't

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even tell you. I don't speak it. Besides, and I can,

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like I think I can.

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Speaker 4: I think I can.

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Speaker 3: I can tell someone to look at my butt. No,

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I tell someone to pick my asshole. Okay, that's just melopeka.

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I don't think it's like finger my butt, which is

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like a bad term. It's worse for you than them, Yeah, exactly.

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But it's a thing that you say as like an insult.

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Speaker 4: But hey, you pick of your finger up mine pick

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as dude, Hey, jam stuff up my ass And that's

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like a bad thing that's kicking my ass.

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Speaker 2: You bitch. So pab Bender chose one hundred and sixty

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acre section on the western slopes of the Mounds that

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continued to bear their name today. The property was located

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directly on the Osage Mission Independence Trail from Independence to

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Fort Scott. The family soon built a small one room

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framed cabin, a barn, a corral, and dug a well

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inside the wooden cabin. The area was partitioned with a

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large canvas creating living quarters in the back and a

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small inn in the front and a store.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, so they had a sheet that's just cut

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through the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you did back then. Okay, it's like

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this side is our house. This side is the end.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're already getting I understand, like cutting

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down a tree is a bitch, and then you know,

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shaving the wood and making and everything. But like at

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some point, at some point, when you're banging your wife

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and you know, every one of your children and I

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guess the eight people that you're renting a room to

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can hear it, you might be compelled to cut down

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more trees.

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Speaker 2: Maybe something more permanent with the structures. Yes, maybe A

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sign was hung above the front door that advertised groceries

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to many travelers along the Osage Trail. The little store

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carried a few supplies such as powder, shot, groceries, liquor, tobacco,

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sold meals, and provided a safe overnight rest in place

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to the strangers along the road. What year was this,

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or so they thought, So this is all in the

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eighteen seventies.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so the lamps are bucking.

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Speaker 2: His post Civil war. They're probably selling beer. They're probably

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selling false staff immigrants from Germany, John Bender Sr. Was

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sixty years old when he arrived in the area. His

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wife was about fifty five. John Senior was six feet tall,

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had long hair and a beard piercing black eyes under

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huge brushy bat brows, which earned him the nickname old

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beetle browed John Love that how many see you?

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Speaker 4: Hear this a lot in history, especially in a lot

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like historical stuff or even maybe like just to pre

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World War two, like people with black eyes. Even he

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had piercing black eyed Have you ever ever met anyone

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with black eyes?

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Speaker 2: They're all evil throughout history? Yeah, only evil people have

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piercing black eyes.

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Speaker 3: I've only met like opposing spellcasters with black eyes on

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my quest.

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Speaker 4: It's fair.

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Speaker 2: I forgot that.

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Speaker 3: It's probably the darkness that right, Yeah, yeah, it takes

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their eye color.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually look at people's eyes too often.

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Speaker 3: No, that's probably the autism.

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Speaker 2: I can't look at people directly in the eyes yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, you just stare down at your feet

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and start raymanning like a podcast a podcast from Philly

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Philly Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Podcast a podcast, But it takes me a while to

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like notice people's eye colors, Like, I have no idea

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what color eyes Rob has?

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Speaker 4: Uh these piercing baby blues you knew.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I'm not good at it because I'm color blind

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as ship are you? Oh yeah, dude, fucking color blind

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people are here.

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Speaker 2: Joel's color blind too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When I first met Joel, like I was telling someone

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about being color blade, He's like, fucking Joel's color blind.

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I'm like, that's actually really funny. Yeah, there's multiple.

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Speaker 4: Of us just bond over living in black and white.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I can see, like I can see enough colors,

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but I don't know what they are. What I can

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like see colors, I just don't know what color it is.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: So everything's assigned a different color for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So I'm in like the multiverse. Color is

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my sweatshirt blue?

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Speaker 4: No it's not.

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Speaker 3: I just said blue because I don't know why, like

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a like a brown.

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Speaker 2: Red clay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you can't. You can't come out with two different colors,

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like what colors? It's red clay. That's not a thing.

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Speaker 4: No, red clay, that's one thing. No, it's not that

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red comic clay. It's red clay. It's like he does.

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No one knows what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: What color is his shirt?

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Speaker 4: Blue? Okay?

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Speaker 2: What color is shorts?

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Speaker 4: Whoa? That one's tough pink.

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Speaker 2: So you probably kind of have a problem with reds.

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Speaker 3: Essentially blues, reds, greens, browns.

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Speaker 2: You said you saw that you're like blue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because well, I've I've.

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Speaker 3: Lived this life long enough to assume he's not wearing

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a purple fucking shirt. And he's wearing a Flyers jersey.

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That's not purple phillies. But yeah, same thing, same thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a p on it. Yeah. Oh, Flyers is a hockey,

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isn't it.

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Speaker 2: John and his wife spoke with extreme German accents that

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few could understand. Mob Bender was a heavy set woman

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so unfriendly with sinister eyes that her neighbors began to

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call her she devil.

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Speaker 4: I mean sinister eye. I believe black eyes is tough.

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Speaker 2: They're probably black.

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Speaker 4: It's better than monkey face. Yeah, better than monkey face

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boy for a boy with down syndrome. Also, now, are

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you just scott aroused at the thought of too heavy

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German accents?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, I love it. I don't know why

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it's it's the fear boner. Yeah, it's a real thing.

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If there was like a German goth chick. Yeah, I'm

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with like a chest tattoo. I'm in and she dips

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what Yeah, I know the dip park.

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Speaker 2: God, dude, that's a fucking unicorn right there, sick.

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Speaker 3: I should probably go to Germany sometime pretty soon for

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it's too late.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with a log of.

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Speaker 2: Well, they all do the snorting tobacco October fast. Like

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everyone thinks it's cocaine. It's just tobacco.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's I mean, I mean it'll get you jacked

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up real quick. It'll get you a boost of energy,

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not like coke, but it'll get you a boost of

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energy and a buzz. Yeah, Snuff's not bad. I I've

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only done it once, but I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: You you were kind of thrown back when I said

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chest tattoos? Is that not a thing?

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Speaker 4: Like underboot both like middle you know what if you

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if you like it.

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Speaker 3: Like like above titty below titty.

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Speaker 2: I guess who's the most famous person with Like Rihanna,

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right she has that? Does she have a chestat? I

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think she has one? Right up?

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Speaker 4: I would. I actually wouldn't know. I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Mhmm yeah, sternum or like collar bone, chest ones or

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just that's that's peak Lady performance.

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Speaker 2: Abender claimed to be a medium who could speak with

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the dead, boiled herbs and roots that she declared could

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be used to cast charms or wicked spells. Her husband

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and son were said to have feared her as she

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ran the household with an iron hand. You would think

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of magic hand.

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Speaker 4: Here's your here's your Rihanna chest tat m m. Yeah,

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it's dope, But she's Rihanna, so I don't care. She

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can get a fucking she meant it.

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Speaker 2: Kind of famous though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also, I am historically one to uh not care about tattoos,

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whether if I'm getting it or someone else has one.

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Speaker 4: You can't talk though what I'm saying, Like you can't.

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You you are like you can't. You personally cannot judge

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other people for that h tattoo. You have a Hillary child,

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Give a child a tattoo of a child.

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Speaker 3: On the outer thigh, not the inner thigh.

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Speaker 4: That would be weird.

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Speaker 2: Still hairy Clinton, though?

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Speaker 4: Could you can you stretch your penis out to touch

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that tattoo?

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Speaker 3: I haven't tried, but I'm sure I could.

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Speaker 2: That tells me you have a hog.

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Speaker 3: No, I have to like do some of contortionism.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, theoretically, could your your penis can

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touch a picture of a child's face.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So first off, I was like, I want to

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try it. Now I kind of don't. First of all, yeah,

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I can touch it, but I'm like, I don't want

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to because he made it. I did weird, weird, but

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accurate it if I describing, Oh yeah, if I did

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it just weird.

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Speaker 2: What's there?

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Speaker 4: You? You helped me get back into reality. Not try it. Yeah.

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My first thought was I'm going to try it.

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Speaker 2: You can't, you can't. No, I know, you can never know.

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Speaker 4: You never know.

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Speaker 2: John Bender Junior was a tall, slender man of about

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twenty five who was handsome with auburn hair and a mustache.

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He spoke English fluently with a German accent. He was

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said to have been social, but he was prone to

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laugh aimlessly, which led many people to believe he was

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a moron.

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Speaker 4: Oh so he's like Woking Phoenix and Joker.

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Speaker 2: Or just Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: I feel like more like walking. I like the walking

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FOI like, I guess it's commo true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she just she laughs at like inappropriate times. But

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I kind of understand that as somebody making. I would

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always smile when coaches yelled at me in sports because

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it was like a nervous tick. Yeah, and I would

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get yelled at further, Like you think it's funny boy,

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I'm like, no, there's just social anxiety. Yeah, trying to

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be great. I'm just trying to just try.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, sir, I'm submitting to you, and if

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you would prefer, I will bend over. But smile is

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my submission. But I will give you my hole if you.

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Speaker 2: Present my whole. You don't want it, but I'll present it.

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It was mostly one basketball coach that really got upset.

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He had like a Napoleon syndrume. I was taller than him,

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much bigger than him. He tried to fight me in

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eighth grade. He was a thirty five year old man.

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Oh sweet, wrong with that? Yeah, I'm thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 2: You ever try to fight a fourteen year old.

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Speaker 4: I fight my kids whole time.

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Speaker 3: If I had the opportunity, I would hasn't been presented.

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I haven't seen a fourteen year I.

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Speaker 2: Won't fight anyone younger, smaller, weaker.

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Speaker 4: I'll cast spells on them. Dude, But you said you

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have love spells and fireball. But there again, they're the

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same spell. It's the same spell. They're both a fire spell. Well,

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they're a love spell.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it gets he gets away with that

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in court though.

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Speaker 3: I also wouldn't want to cast a love spell on

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a child.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you said it was the same spell. So

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your fire spells will love spell.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know if you put it that way. See,

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just like the Hillary Clinton thing, I can see. I

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can see where you're at. A lot of questions right though,

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you know, and they probably won't get answered.

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Speaker 2: The daughter, Kate was the friendliest of the bunch, speaking

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good English with just a slight accent. She was a

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beautiful girl of twenty three, quick to laugh, talk to strangers,

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and she and her brother John often attended Sunday School

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near Harmony Grove. And we're readily we're readily accepted into

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the community.

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Speaker 4: I liked it quick to laugh as a compliment, like, oh,

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she thought everyone was funny, like she was just like

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she just made guys feel good about themselves. Yeah, it's funny.

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What else would she do.

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Speaker 2: She's a good conversationalist because she laughs at everything I say,

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and she's like, oh, you're so funny. I'm sure like

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that played back.

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Speaker 4: There, which is kind of what women It's kind of

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what women want now, right. They want a guy who

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laughs at their jokes. See, it's so hard to so

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you just got to. Yeah, you have to give them.

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But back then, it was like, I want a girl

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who like laughs at everything I say. I'm sure guys

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actually still want that, but now it is a women

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are asking for it too, and it's like, I earn it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of himself whenever he makes me laugh,

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like genuinely laugh that hard.

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Speaker 4: I get you, though, I get you all the time.

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Yeah you do.

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Speaker 2: But we've been doing that. We've known each other for

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ten years. You know what makes me tick?

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Speaker 4: You make me laugh all the time. But I'm a

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generous laugher.

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Speaker 2: Did you cast a love spelling?

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Speaker 3: I did as soon as I got here. That's why

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I was on the parking lot for twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now. Kit was a self proclaimed healer and psychic. She

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gave lectures on spiritualism and conducted seances. She also claimed

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to possess psychic powers, including communicating with the dead. She

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soon found the lecture circuit profitable and began hucking supernatural

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powers and the ability to cure illness.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're not burning witches anymore, so get paid.

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Speaker 2: This little biscuit desired notoriety and often advocated free love

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and justification for murder.

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Speaker 4: Those feel like opposites. Yep, fuck who you want, kill

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who you want. I guess it's kind of the same.

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Speaker 2: Once peaks of the dead, they know what they want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Along with her desire for fame, she also craved wealth

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and position. Though her beauty and social skills gain popularity

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with the locals, her actions began to cause them to

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say that she was maybe a little satanic.

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Speaker 4: She already sounds satanic. What it's all there? She's like, yeah,

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I talked to the dad. You should be able to

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fuck you want, and of course kill who you want.

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And people are like, you know what, how those truck

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mightn't be onto.

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Speaker 2: Sut She just sounds like a libertarian.

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Speaker 4: Kinda.

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Speaker 2: When the vendors open their store and in in eighteen

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seventy one, many travelers would stop for a meal or supplies.

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Some of these men began to start missing. They began

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to just start going missing. They didn't keep traveling.

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Speaker 4: No, it was their final stop.

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Speaker 2: It was their final stop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'd a layover that they never left, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: When friends and family would look for them, they would

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trace them as far as the Big Hill Country of

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southeast Kansas before finding no trace of the lost traveler.

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Speaker 4: Whatso happening, Like, Oh, yeah, he left here. We never

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heard from him again. He never made any of the

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next because usually so people would say, it's like, oh,

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it's pretty hard to be pretty easy to disappear. But

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at the same time, like these trails were well traveled, Right,

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if you were going to I don't know, fucking Albuquerque

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from Saint Louis, right, you would go through Kansas City

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and then maybe you whatever, you can start go on

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south and you would pass through this area. Maybe you'd

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stop there for the night, and then you would go

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on a predictable route. It's like they're not an interstate obviously,

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but you would still be going on a predictable route

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and you would then probably predictably stop at one of

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like three or four towns somewhere down the line, right,

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whether depending on whatever your stamina and supply situation was,

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so all you would have to do is just go like, big, Okay,

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he was last seen here, and you say he left,

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all right, we'll go fucking check X Y and the

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next couple of towns, and when he's not, when they've

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never seen him, we just have to go back that you,

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that's the last place he was seen was your fucking house.

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Speaker 3: How many days does that take to like, I gotta

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go aho, months, gotta go horseback to the next town.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you get away with the line and come

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back and get away with this.

470
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 4: But there's no no proof of anything at this point.

471
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,559
Speaker 2: These first few missing travelers did not raise an overall

472
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:30,039
alarm in the area, as it was not uncommon for

473
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,680
men to continue their journey westward during these days. As

474
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,759
more time passed, the disappearances became more frequent, and by

475
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,000
the spring of eighteen seventy three, the region had become

476
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:44,720
striped with rumors, and travelers began to avoid the trail altogether.

477
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,279
Speaker 4: I mean it gets to a point where, yeah, word spreads.

478
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: But also do you think it's like a mountain lion

479
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,680
is attacking people or do you assume as a witch lady.

480
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Or also natives too, like not all of them went

481
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,759
to Oklahoma.

482
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, very true.

483
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: You can always just laying the natives.

484
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,319
Speaker 4: You can't to an extent, I want to go down

485
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:09,160
at trail, right, don't go now. But at the same time,

486
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,759
eventually they'll send in the cavalry and the literal cavalry. Yeah,

487
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,839
and then the natives are dealt with, and then people

488
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,880
are still disappearing, like it was the naves. Was like, no,

489
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,799
they killed every baby in that TP. I don't think

490
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:24,440
it was the native.

491
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't them, Yeah, like, oh, it must have

492
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,119
been some osc guys. Sorry other sorry for the gender

493
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,759
tornado with the tornado they happened or a mountain lion.

494
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 4: Mountain lion is a tornado tornado line.

495
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: When neighboring community started to make slenderous accusations, the Osage

496
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:51,079
Township called a meeting held at the Harmony Grove Schoolhouse

497
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:54,000
in March to see what, if anything, could be done

498
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,079
about Seventy five people attended the gathering, including both Bender men.

499
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,200
The discussion began guarding the ten people who were reported missing,

500
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:06,839
including a well known Independence physician named doctor William H.

501
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: York Strong name it's a good name. So if it's

502
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,720
a doctor's name, doctor, you're gonna believe doctor. I would

503
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,759
trust him. Yeah.

504
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: With the full realization that there was a major problem

505
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,279
in their township, the group decided to search every farmstead

506
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,400
between Big Hill Creek and Drum Creek. The Benders remained

507
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,599
silent when most of the attendees volunteered to have their

508
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:28,799
premises searched.

509
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,079
Speaker 4: So everyone else was like, you can check my place,

510
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:37,480
no bones here, But also like, what are they gonna dogs?

511
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,279
I guess how are they gonna find a buried body?

512
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:49,039
But if you just bury it in a field, what

513
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:49,359
do you.

514
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: You got the manpowder? You're gonna dig the whole field up?

515
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: Why not you need to.

516
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: Dig up a football field up?

517
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,319
Speaker 3: At this time? What else do you have to do?

518
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,839
I figure it out.

519
00:25:59,039 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

520
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: One of my favorite things to talk about with history

521
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,680
when people were like, how did these ancient people figure

522
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,480
out the constellations or mapped their pyramids?

523
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:12,039
Speaker 2: They had nothing else to do?

524
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing. There was nothing on television because there was

525
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:17,559
no television, I phone.

526
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: All you had to do was that shit.

527
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: They did leave like YELP reviews, though back then that

528
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,039
was pretty cool.

529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,079
Speaker 2: They even have cool sports.

530
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: Er walking, there was walking sports.

531
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,079
Speaker 2: They were walking up until the nineteen hundreds.

532
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just they had nothing else to

533
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:39,279
do but be productive. Yeah. An, what's funny is is that,

534
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,000
like even back then, most people hated reading. Yeah, it

535
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,559
was your only form of entertainment, and people were still

536
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:48,680
just like this sucks due to this day.

537
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,559
Speaker 3: In Afghanistan, like the villages get bored and they just

538
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:55,559
like build walls. They'll just like build a random like

539
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,079
three foot wall in the middle of nowhere.

540
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: Or if you're I mean when I was a kid,

541
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,799
I would dig a hole.

542
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do that. They go to the beach, you

543
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,000
dig a hole, build walls, build hole. I heard that

544
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,680
they were Were you deployed to Afghanistan?

545
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

546
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I heard that they were excellent thrower rock throwers,

547
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,599
like they could just hit anything.

548
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I'm saying I was deployed in Afghanis standing

549
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:21,000
in that outfit? What's just it's just a funny visual.

550
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: No, my buddy got domed with like a kid with

551
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,640
a brick like in the turret of like a gun,

552
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,440
like a gun truck, like do like a twelve year

553
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
old with a brick. Yeah, just domed him and he's like, thanks,

554
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,519
I guess another kid. Eventually we went from like manning

555
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:42,400
a turret to have a control system with a camera,

556
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:46,160
like a camera and a gun. One kid hit the

557
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,640
camera and then cracked it with the with the rock,

558
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,559
so we had to manually get up in the turret.

559
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,440
At that point where this is this is fun, you know,

560
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,079
yeah fuck that. Yeah, but they're like good throwers.

561
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,759
Speaker 2: No, So I I was talking goods. I was talking

562
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,680
to I wonder if you get like a scout out there, like, yeah, that.

563
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,039
Speaker 3: Has been a joke for the whole war on Terror

564
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,079
that we got it. We gotta adopt one of these kids.

565
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,559
Speaker 4: I talked to, Uh, I'm talking to some vet who

566
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,599
is deploying Afghanston years and years ago. I mean this

567
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960
was like ten years ago at least, and we just

568
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,279
talked about random shit. I was like, you know what

569
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:18,119
I was I've had a theory on is that, Like

570
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,359
I wonder if like most countries soldiers, including and especially

571
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,279
in the Middle East are like shitty at throwing grenades

572
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,400
because like they don't grow up throwing like a baseball

573
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,079
or anything like that. And he was like, dude, let

574
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,119
me tell you about these fucking kids. Yeah, he said that,

575
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,720
like for fun, him and his buddies, like in his

576
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,160
unit or whatever, would just have like contests to hit

577
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,039
like a bottle with a rock. And he was like,

578
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,720
they've murdered us every time. I mean they he was like,

579
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:45,279
they were so fucking accurate with any sized rock anything.

580
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,240
I mean they were just because what else do you

581
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,559
have to do? Yeah, they literally build walls, dig holes,

582
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,079
right Like he was like the he's actually kind of

583
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,599
dude that. He was like, the.

584
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,279
Speaker 2: Accuracy with these kids arms. So I wonder give those

585
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:01,759
Afghanis pig skins, let him sling, give them a scholarship

586
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:02,680
they play for Bam the.

587
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: Dogistanis of football.

588
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:05,599
Speaker 1: Think.

589
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: I do think that football is the way to go,

590
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,920
because I don't know that they have the v LO

591
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,240
for baseball. Unless they can just locate. They got accuracy, right, yeah,

592
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,400
if they I mean, if they want to go Greg

593
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Maddox and just be location location locations.

594
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Jamie Moyer picking the spots, dude, honestly, actually fuck fuck football.

595
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah they need to.

596
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: We need to get a whole bunch.

597
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:27,039
Speaker 4: Of Afghany Maddox dudes in here. Just pick painting the black.

598
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: It's probably not that hard. I think you just go

599
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,920
there and take them.

600
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta zig while everyone else is zagging.

601
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: I don't think.

602
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: Anyone's It's like it's like a duck in a pond.

603
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:35,799
Speaker 4: You can just take it.

604
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: Like right now, the big baseball is you got to

605
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,359
hit three digits. You need to have a guy that

606
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640
throws gas one hundred miles an hour. No, we're getting

607
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Afghanis to throw seventy five. But they're hitting every corner.

608
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: And they wear cool hats.

609
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you teach them how to throw a curve.

610
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,839
Speaker 4: Do locations all you need. V loo's overrated. Vlo's what

611
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240
you have, what vllas, what you achieve or what you

612
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:57,640
go for.

613
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: They have nothing you don't when you're throwing in sweepers,

614
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,240
they're throwing sliders.

615
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 4: That's why these dudes today, they don't know how to pitch.

616
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:05,880
That's why it's all it's all one hundred mile an

617
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,359
hour pitches.

618
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,599
Speaker 2: That's why their arms explode.

619
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, get the exact Ghaney kids in here. Yeah, throwing

620
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960
eighty five Peyton Black.

621
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,119
Speaker 2: I think that's the future.

622
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: I mean, we currently have baseball academies in the Dominican

623
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,799
Republican shit like, how much really crazier in Afghanistan? Be

624
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,160
I mean they're in gnarly parts of the Dominican Republic.

625
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:29,799
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe tap into Haiti.

626
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: I don't even think they can afford Rocks and Haiti

627
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,519
to be honest.

628
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: After this, you know, meeting their neighbor, Billy Tole, the neighbor,

629
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:47,519
the Benders noticed the inn was abandoned and their family

630
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:52,160
animals unfed. Toll reported the news to Leroy F. Dick,

631
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,720
the township trustee, and a search party was soon formed,

632
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,119
which included doctor Yorke's brother, Colonel am York.

633
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: Leroy Dick is an unfortunate name, Lee Wererot.

634
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: Dick's a great name. I I honestly want to name

635
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,079
one of my sons Lee Roy. I think it's a

636
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:10,640
cool name.

637
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: Get get someone pregnant. I gotta make sure, I gotta

638
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,960
make sure it works. Yeah, you gotta do a test run. Yeah.

639
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
And then do you have an addic? Do I I

640
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:22,680
can find one?

641
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

642
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: Actually I do have a Yeah, I have an addict. Perfect.

643
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,079
It used to be haunted.

644
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: Got all your basis It used to I used to

645
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:30,000
have a haunted attict for like the first year I

646
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,519
left in my house and we then we banished it.

647
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: You exercise it.

648
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm serious.

649
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually I was talking about earlier, Like she did

650
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000
that at my house. It was great, all right, look

651
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,880
at you. It was really cool in German or no,

652
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,079
not not that one. Her name was Madeline and she

653
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,039
like had like a possum skull that she like carried

654
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,039
in her person ship.

655
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: Did it go into the skull? You have do trapped

656
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,079
in the skull?

657
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,319
Speaker 4: And that'd be cool. I'd love that. That would be

658
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,720
pretty sweet. I'll ask her, you fucking front of the

659
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,359
possum skull.

660
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:02,799
Speaker 2: We just make it, watch you.

661
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,599
Speaker 4: We did.

662
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,279
Speaker 2: When the When the men arrived to the property, they

663
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,720
found the cabin empty of food, clothing, and personal possessions,

664
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,759
a terrible smell inside the abandon and also met them.

665
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:20,480
A trap door nailed hut was discovered on the cabin floor.

666
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,000
Probably in it open, the men found six a six

667
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,480
foot deep hole filled with clotted blood, causing a terrible odor.

668
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh what it was just blood.

669
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: However there were bodies. There were no bodies in the hole.

670
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,400
It was just a pit of blood, pit of blood.

671
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:36,200
Little trap.

672
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: They just lived in that blood smell.

673
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: No, it's underneath. It was a it was under the house.

674
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 4: But yeah, you can still smell that they walked so

675
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,279
they walked in and smelled it.

676
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,079
Speaker 3: If it's a latch, doors, it's a piece of wood.

677
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,599
If it's a plank, yeah, it's a plank with a latch.

678
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,599
You're smelling it's coming right through.

679
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,519
Speaker 4: That's gnarly. So what they were just like slitting throats

680
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:01,160
and draining them into this fucking hole. Also kind of okay.

681
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: The men physically moved the entire cabin to the side

682
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,200
and began to search beneath. They moved the cabin, well,

683
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,960
I mean they picked it up, all right. Again, let's

684
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,319
get back to our what we were talking about. What

685
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,279
else do they have to do, like we need to

686
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:16,160
get underneath this?

687
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: Just just pick up.

688
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: They got nothing else.

689
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,759
Speaker 3: They call it fifty men from the town to move

690
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,960
this house, and they just ride on horseback for three

691
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,480
days to move this house.

692
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not. Unfortunately, no bodies were found there either. Continuing,

693
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,519
they began to dig around the cabin, especially in the

694
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,400
area the benders had utilized as a vegeta vegetable garden

695
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,480
and orchard. They finally found their first body.

696
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: So they figured that the benders couldn't couldn't help, but

697
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,640
use these bodies as fertilizer.

698
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:49,559
Speaker 3: Wait, are these the Bloody Benders?

699
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:50,759
Speaker 2: These are the Bloody Bend?

700
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,519
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I just picked that up. I know, I

701
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,720
know of the story.

702
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it, but I've heard the

703
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,960
name Bloody Benders.

704
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,519
Speaker 2: I think there's a TV series about it. I don't

705
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,359
know if it ever like got traction, gotcha?

706
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,799
Speaker 4: Okay?

707
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,079
Speaker 2: They found the first body buried head downward and its

708
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,639
feet scarcely covered, so the feet were towards the ground.

709
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,039
It was just upside down.

710
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:15,519
Speaker 4: That's cool.

711
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: Why the corpse.

712
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: With Yeah, that's probably pretty chill.

713
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: The corpse was that of doctor William H.

714
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 4: Yorke. That seems like a tough hold a dick. No

715
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,639
the cool name. Guy's dead.

716
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,679
Speaker 2: Fuck his skull bludgeoned and his throat cut from ear

717
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:30,039
to ear.

718
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're right throat blood into the hole.

719
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: So you you bang him over the head to make

720
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:41,039
him unconscious or whatever what, drain him in the kitchen

721
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:45,760
your blood hole. Yeah, and then fucking bury him head

722
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,719
first in the most insulting way possible, but yeah.

723
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: Most convenient way, I'd say, though, it feels like a

724
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,519
tough hole a dick, Like when you when you go

725
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,039
like six feet deep and like five feet wide for

726
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:58,840
like a body, or like six feet wide for a

727
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,360
body that's like six by six, nw'res going six feet

728
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,920
straight down?

729
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,639
Speaker 4: Bought it being bought a boom? I get yeah, I guess.

730
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: The digging continued The next day. Nine other bodies and

731
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,880
numerous dismembered body parts were found, including that of a

732
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,159
woman and a little girl. Of course, the burial site

733
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,079
was christened Hell's half Acre, and another brother of doctor York,

734
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:27,440
a lawyer and state senator residing in Independence, offered a one

735
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,679
thousand dollars reward for information leading to the Bender family's arrest.

736
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,840
On May seventeenth, Governor Thomas Osborne added to that mount

737
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,639
by offering a two thousand dollars reward for the apprehension

738
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:40,159
of all four.

739
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: Oh so they were gone, Yeah, they left, they died.

740
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: They were like, oh.

741
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,199
Speaker 3: I thought they were still there, just like we don't

742
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,719
know what this body they got. They went so funny.

743
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: They went to the meeting and they got home and

744
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,719
were like, we gotta go.

745
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 4: This is it's not gonna.

746
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: And let me guess one town over, no one.

747
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,159
Speaker 2: Need Yeah, literally where do the some murder spread fast,

748
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,039
and thousands of people flocked to the site, including news

749
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,639
reporters from as far as away as New York and Chicago.

750
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,320
The Bender cabin was ripped apart by souvenir hunters, right

751
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,679
down to the bloody bricks that line the cellar.

752
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: I gotta say, so, this is the type of thing

753
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,159
we talk about all the time on the show where

754
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,800
it's like you talk about today how people are like

755
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,800
so craving and and like shameless and stuff like that,

756
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,719
But it was, it's always been worse. This is the

757
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,760
This is the most polite we and and and humane

758
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,480
we have ever been in human history. It's not even close.

759
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,320
Well maybe we've dipped a little bit, but like overall

760
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,880
the graph is trending massively upwards. They're a little you

761
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,639
can get a little like little dips, a little dip,

762
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,760
but like for the most part, it's it's all up.

763
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,519
Speaker 2: Because that's insane.

764
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,199
Speaker 4: Like what people are just taking pieces of the house

765
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,440
and be like I got a piece of the bloody

766
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,480
Bender resident.

767
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,679
Speaker 2: Right, like a crime site. Isn't it cool? A toddler

768
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,599
was more in this room? Isn't that cool?

769
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: Would you not do that?

770
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,159
Speaker 2: No?

771
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: What I would definitely do that.

772
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,599
Speaker 2: I would be like, I wouldn't even go.

773
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,199
Speaker 4: First off, I would be like, yeah, I don't want

774
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,440
to go to where they fucking cut a slit a

775
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,599
fucking eight year old's throat and drained your body. Feels

776
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,840
not chill.

777
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,599
Speaker 2: The Benders were, of course, not what they appeared to be.

778
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,840
They weren't even truly a family. The only ones related

779
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,079
were Ma and Kate Bender, so.

780
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: The rest was just like a creepy It was like

781
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,119
a creepy coven.

782
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: This is like a Wild West group.

783
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: Okay, that's even cooler.

784
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,079
Speaker 2: When the visitor stopped for a meal, they were seated

785
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:43,719
at the table with their backs to the large canvas

786
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,079
separating the inn from the living quarters. Kate would begin

787
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,480
to charm the men with their social skills, flirting or

788
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:54,199
revealing her psychic gifts. As the men gave their full

789
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,840
attention to the allureing, Kate, Paw and John Bender, hiding

790
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,559
behind the canvas, would strike the unsuspected traveler in the

791
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:05,440
skull with a hammer. Mob Bender and Kate would rifle

792
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000
the body for money, push him through the trap door

793
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,719
into the hole below the cabin, where Kate would slip

794
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,599
their throat. The body would then be buried in the

795
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:18,000
garden behind the house at night. So they had a routine. Yeah,

796
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,719
I mean they got it. You get, you get, you

797
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,320
want it. Had a playbook. Yeah, you want to.

798
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,639
Speaker 4: Sort of like do it by the book. You want

799
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,679
to just make it quick and clean, and yeah, this

800
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,039
is quick and clean. Way back then, this is oh yeah,

801
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,639
this is incredible. I don't know why, Like who's buying

802
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,239
the sheep a pit of clotted blood or.

803
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: Just walking into the inn and smelling. Uh, was awful

804
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,159
in here, eight months of blood. Yeah, but I have

805
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:46,400
nowhere else to go, I guess.

806
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's just stuff. It's the eighteen hundreds.

807
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,519
Speaker 3: We have this new thing called the sewage system. Yeah,

808
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:56,159
oh yeah, that's well.

809
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: It's terrible in here, but suppose it smells terrible everywhere.

810
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: Now. When doctor Yorke went missing, he had two brothers,

811
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,800
one living in Fort Scott and the other in Independence.

812
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,320
Both knew of his travel plans, and when he failed

813
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,719
to return home, an all out search began for the

814
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,840
missing doctor. So they killed the wrong guy. Yeah, Colonel

815
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920
am york led a colonel. Yeah, he's a colonel. Let

816
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,760
a contingency of some fifty men began questioning every traveler

817
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,159
that came across the trail and stopped at the area

818
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,760
of the homesteads. One of the places was the Bender

819
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,280
in This is when they were still there. The Benders

820
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,480
tried to help by admitting that doctor York had stopped

821
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,639
at their place, but convinced the search party that he

822
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,079
had left and probably got marked by Indians.

823
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,559
Speaker 4: Witchcraft. Tell as much. Yeah, you gotta tell as much

824
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:45,800
truth as possible, you know what I mean, you.

825
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Tell you can't you can't be like he was never here. Yeah.

826
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta tell the truth right up to the

827
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,519
point where you can't tell the truth.

828
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Even with her mystic abilities, Kate attempted to search for

829
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,679
the missing doctor to throw off any suspense of herself.

830
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's I just I would find that really

831
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,519
suspicious if she was like, oh, yeah, the doctor was

832
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,039
here and he left and I maybe was kolb by Indians.

833
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,760
But I'm a psychic, I'm super psychic. Do you want

834
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
to help find She was known for being a psychic

835
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,440
before that, so she trusted, like, I don't know, maybe

836
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,639
something happened at the place where the weird chick is.

837
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,599
Speaker 2: The woman that's accused of being satanic. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

838
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,480
h yeah, yeah, Oh.

839
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,199
Speaker 4: The chick that was accused of being fucking Satan might

840
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,719
know something.

841
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: After Colonel Yorke's visit and the meeting with the Harmony

842
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,199
Groove Schoolhouse, the Bender family fled. Only a few days later,

843
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,760
the homestead was found abandoned and the search party began

844
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,840
to discover the grizzly remains of the bodies. So they're exposed,

845
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,360
like immediately.

846
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: They find them out.

847
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they have the blood pit. Yeah. The diggers

848
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,039
were astonished to what they found, and it became one

849
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,360
of the America's first mass murder burial grounds. As body

850
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,599
as her body was uncovered. Ten bodies were found in

851
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:04,719
the Bender's apple orchard, including doctor York and the people

852
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,239
they have been searching for.

853
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 4: I'm sure the shitthole papers love that. All these new

854
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,840
like again, like to your point, like all the people

855
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,880
from New York and Chicago, Saint Louis, New Orleans, I'm

856
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,400
sure every fucking Boston at Philly, everywhere, we all came

857
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,039
down and got a brick.

858
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,199
Speaker 3: Would you eat an apple pie from the murder applefield,

859
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960
like the fertilizer of like humans.

860
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: Not a murdered one, but if you if it was

861
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,960
like one of those you know, like they do that

862
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,159
now where it's like you can be buried with a tree.

863
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: Oh, if you're like fertilized, maybe drink some cider.

864
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:41,639
Speaker 4: I would definitely do, like a murder sider. I wouldn't

865
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,719
do any murder siders a good name. I wouldn't do

866
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,079
any murder apples. That's a great that's a great saturn name.

867
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:51,519
I would do like animal consenting human apple situation. I

868
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:54,760
don't like apple. That's more wholesome. Yeah, apple juice, like

869
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,440
apple juice.

870
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: I would definitely do, Like, Hey, this was found with

871
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,440
like twenty five bodies next to this tree.

872
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,159
Speaker 4: We made a pot. I gotta tell them afterwards, be like,

873
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,039
just I'm so sorry, I forgot to mention this was

874
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:13,719
from a vineyard that was a serial killer family was

875
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,519
using their murdered victims to fertilize the grapes. I'm so

876
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,119
sorry if we forgot to mention that earlier. You've been

877
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:22,199
drinking murdered wine.

878
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: It's literally called murder rape vineyard. And there was like

879
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:29,480
we forgot to tell you guys, people were actually.

880
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: Murdered murdering a savage John beautiful. I love that.

881
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the victims mister Launcher and his daughter,

882
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:41,159
who was just eight years old. It was a little

883
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,559
little grisome there. The little girl's body was found to

884
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:47,599
have multiple injuries, none of them would have caused her death,

885
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,239
and it was speculated the poor girl may have been

886
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,039
buried alive.

887
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: Not cool, sweet, take back the once again, take back

888
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,440
the murder wine.

889
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: Eat that apple pie, you eat that murder wine. Of

890
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960
the discovery of her remains, the Kansas City Times reported

891
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:11,280
one arm was broken, the breastbone had been driven in,

892
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,000
the right knee had been wrenched from its socket, and

893
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:16,840
the leg doubled up under the body.

894
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: She just playing football.

895
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,119
Speaker 2: Nothing like this sickening series of crimes had ever been

896
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,320
recorded in the whole history of the country. That's what

897
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:30,000
they claim recorded. This is them recorded.

898
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,159
Speaker 3: I guess it's only on white people, not the natives.

899
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Other bodies found in the garden were those of

900
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:43,519
Henry Mackenzie's mutilated remains, three men named Ben Brown, W. F. Mccroatey,

901
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,760
and John Geary.

902
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 4: How they identify all these people? Do?

903
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: They keep playing a guest book they might have, as

904
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,960
well as unidentified male and female. So they didn't figure

905
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,719
out who these.

906
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: The fact that they identified. Actually fucking incredible.

907
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Boyle's body was found in the well.

908
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: That's a horrible place to put a body if you

909
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,719
plan on continuing to live there.

910
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hoping it was like, hey, we murdered him,

911
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:11,760
throw him in the well.

912
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 4: There, then we're out.

913
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: That was maybe there last victim.

914
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,559
Speaker 3: Yeah him, it's easier just eat and then yeah.

915
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of like what the Mongolians would do, right,

916
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,039
Oh yeah, just destroy town and just fuck the wells.

917
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 3: Japanese they would poison everything so that hey, come, well,

918
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:30,159
you're welcome to come on back once we're gone, but

919
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:31,440
good luck.

920
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: You gotta restart.

921
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,519
Speaker 2: Dismember parts of several other victims were also discovered but

923
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:40,039
could never be identified. Four other bodies with crushed goals

924
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,239
and slit throats were found outside the property in Drum

925
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,119
Creek and on this round in Prairie. For all these deaths,

926
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,719
the Benders gained only about like forty six undred dollars,

927
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,880
sound about right. Two teams of horses and wagons, a

928
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,480
pony and a saddle.

929
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,159
Speaker 3: So those are worth like ten grand.

930
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually so they're that's a pretty good.

931
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're not doing a whole lot to like

932
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:07,800
gain that like investment, you're just killing someone you're on

933
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,840
like going to work and like, oh I spent three

934
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,400
months at work and got four grand.

935
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: Like you count. If you count cooking the meal and

936
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,840
cleaning the dishes and taking the hole, you're talking three

937
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,880
hours of work max. Yeah.

938
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,639
Speaker 2: Because some of the travelers carried nothing of value, it

939
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,239
was widely speculated the Benders killed simply for the thrill

940
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,480
of it, probably as were of the grisome murders spread

941
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,440
more and more travelers came forward to tell their own

942
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,840
stories of a narrow escape, including one gentleman named William Pickering.

943
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:45,159
When he sat, or when he refused to sit with

944
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,920
his back to the canvas because of it's disgusting stains.

945
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,199
Pickering said that Kate Bender threatened him with a knife,

946
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,159
so he fled the premises.

947
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: Perfect so it was stained with blood and brains, and

948
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,840
he was like, this canvas is gross? Can I sit

949
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,679
over there? Can I stare?

950
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 3: Can I stare at the canvas instead of yeah, yeah,

951
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
while they eat this succulent meal.

952
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: They're just there's just it's gross. It smells like shit.

953
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,559
There's blood under way. See what everyone I don't know

954
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,440
maybe you've slaughtered a pig or I don't know what

955
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,519
you do here, but like, can I just sit anywhere else?

956
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:27,400
She's immediately like.

957
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: Doesn't have a good poker face.

958
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 4: No.

959
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: The Catholic priest said he fled when he saw one

960
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,599
of the Bender men concealing a large hammer. He's like,

961
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:38,599
I think he's gonna use that.

962
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, why you have that, sir? It's ten o'clock at night.

963
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360
What you what are you hammering here? It's seen a

964
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,840
nail in hours.

965
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: After, following a fresh trail of wagon tracks, a search

966
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,440
party found that the Benders had gone to the town nearby,

967
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:59,360
a Fayre, some twelve miles to the north. They purchased

968
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,440
tickets to Humbolt on the north bound Levenworth, Lawrence and

969
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,039
Galveston trains. Several days later, the Bender's team and wagon

970
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,599
were found a short distance away, and the horses nearly starved.

971
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,880
Upon further investigation, Captain James B. Ransom, the trains conductor,

972
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,559
said that John Junior and Kate disembarked and took the Missouri,

973
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,800
Kansas and Texas Railroad train south.

974
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,119
Speaker 4: How would he know to the Red River?

975
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,079
Speaker 2: He's the country near Dennison, Texas. But like he was

976
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,760
the conductor. He's the captain, meets everyone on the train.

977
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: It's a fucking train.

978
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,119
Speaker 2: I think he just thought he solemn.

979
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't know what like that would be. Like

980
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,639
that is literally like an airline pilot, like a fucking

981
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:50,519
Southwest pilot, be like, oh yeah, oh Rob Fox, I

982
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,960
know him, so I'll him get on the plane backwards

983
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:00,559
half up to Saint Los already had a layover into Denver.

984
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Then as far as I know that Denver flight was

985
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,719
taking them up to Van Cooby, you don't fucking know,

986
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Pot we got conducted.

987
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: There's no fucking shit. I refuse to believe that. Allegedly,

988
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,719
the pair then fled to a tough outlaw colony along

989
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,239
the border of Texas and New Mexico.

990
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,519
Speaker 4: That sounds cool. They're like, oh you guys murderers too, Yeah,

991
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:26,079
tough Outlaw county.

992
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:31,039
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Mom Pap Bender continued to the north of Kansas City,

993
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,280
where it is believe they transferred to a train headed

994
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:39,199
to Saint Louis, So you're boys. Attempts to capture the

995
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:43,440
blood thirsty family were immediately made by both law officers

996
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,840
and vigilantes alike, though no one ever collected the rewards offered.

997
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,079
Rumors and several parties who had captured them and killed

998
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,800
the Benders began to fly. One vigilante group claimed to

999
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,239
have shot down the men and Ma Bender and burned

1000
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,960
Kate alive as the witch they believed her to be.

1001
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:05,360
That's certainly a lie. Yeah, in no way that's true.

1002
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,320
It was definitely a lie.

1003
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: Also, wouldn't you just why wouldn't you collect a reward?

1004
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1005
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's bullshit.

1006
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: Well I think they were trying to collect the reward, okay,

1007
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,599
oh yeah, yeah we burner, Yeah, we we had nothing left.

1008
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:20,559
Another group claim they caught the Benders whiles given to

1009
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,800
the South and lynched them before throwing their bodies into

1010
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,239
the river.

1011
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: And they're like money, we did be yeah, you had.

1012
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: Another group claim to have killed the Benders during a

1013
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,639
gunfight and buried their bodies on the prairie. None of

1014
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:37,199
these tales were confirmed, nor were bodies found, so most

1015
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,760
thought the Benders had managed to escape. For years, suddings

1016
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,800
of Mob Bender and Kate were reported, and in eighteen

1017
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,000
eighty nine, two women were extradited from Michigan on the charge.

1018
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,760
The pair were jailed, but the case was dropped due

1019
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,079
to a lack of evidence that.

1020
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:55,079
Speaker 4: They were the same people.

1021
00:49:55,159 --> 00:50:03,039
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, of the family. Pallbender was to have believed.

1022
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,800
He was believed to be a man named John Flickinger

1023
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:11,360
from Germany or Holland. Though he allegedly committed suicide in

1024
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,159
eighteen eighty four in Lake Michigan. Others believed Mom Kate

1025
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,239
murdered him because he had fled Cherry Vale with all

1026
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,800
the cash and valuables that they had taken from their victims.

1027
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:23,559
Speaker 4: Okay, so they chased him down.

1028
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:31,039
Speaker 2: Mab Bender was born Almira Meek in New York and

1029
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,800
married as a teenager to a man named George Griffith.

1030
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,119
Speaker 4: How old was he?

1031
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: After bearing him dozens of children, including Kate, Mister Griffith

1032
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:48,000
suddenly died, some said of a bad place on his head,

1033
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,719
resembling a dent that might have been made with a hammer. Afterwards,

1034
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,519
she reportedly remarried several times and killed each husband she

1035
00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:00,400
had and three of her older children so they could

1036
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,679
not testify against.

1037
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 3: Her, and they all had so this was before.

1038
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: They were the Bender family.

1039
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:10,119
Speaker 4: Good Lord, so she had a rat for real.

1040
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: John Junior was found to have been a man named

1041
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,960
John GiB Hart though most were led to believe Johnny

1042
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Kate were brother and sister, others said they sometimes passed

1043
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,480
as man and wife. The two were known to have

1044
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:31,159
a relationship, and further tales came out about Kate being pregnant.

1045
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably banged. He probably got a pregnant whatever

1046
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,239
their murderers, And she was like, yeah, fuck whoever you want,

1047
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,199
even if he was or brother, Like, they're.

1048
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: Fucking what did they do with the kid. They bashed

1049
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,000
the baby's brains and they put.

1050
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: Him in an attic. Just what why did they waited?

1051
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,840
She had the whole birth and then.

1052
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: Bashed the baby's brand and said, well, what would you do?

1053
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,079
Speaker 4: You can have an abortion back then, Oh, all right,

1054
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:58,719
you can board it.

1055
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: I think they wanted to do it.

1056
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: They wanted to do it.

1057
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: I think they wanted to hammer a baby's head in.

1058
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: It's not hard.

1059
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: I guess it's probably the easiest hammering they've done.

1060
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: Boy, it's one blow.

1061
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:11,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of it's bad luck if he only

1062
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:14,360
if it takes a couple You're like, oh, did you

1063
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,599
saw the worst thing I've ever heard?

1064
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: Go on, Jesus, nothing else has gotten to the eight

1065
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,239
year old.

1066
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,039
Speaker 4: They no that fucked me up. But a bashing an

1067
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,480
infant's brains in, I don't know if you've ever been

1068
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,920
around an infant, I tried not to.

1069
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,039
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't have helmets back then, so maybe they're

1070
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:33,119
just trying to reshape its head.

1071
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, well, probably someone did that, but

1072
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:38,880
who could say he used.

1073
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:42,119
Speaker 3: The ball peen the back part of the hammer to

1074
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:43,400
fix a dent here and.

1075
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,679
Speaker 2: There After the Benders escape. One detective who had closely

1076
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:49,719
followed all the leads, said that he had traced John

1077
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Junior to the Outlaw country along the Texas New Mexico border,

1078
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,119
where he found that the criminal had died of a stroke.

1079
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:58,880
So didn't really get his comeuppance.

1080
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,599
Speaker 4: Now, Oh no, it doesn't sound like any of them did.

1081
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:09,559
Sounds like they all did it and then lived pretty

1082
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:10,119
normal lives.

1083
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Kate was the fifth child of my Bender and

1084
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,840
was born Eliza Griffith. Eventually she remarried and went by

1085
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,440
the name Sarah Eliza Davis. While working at the Bender

1086
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,639
In with her family, she earned more money for the

1087
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:29,159
group as a prostitute, adding an additional amount to the

1088
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,400
traveler's bill for the privilege of lying with her, so

1089
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,800
not only was she a witch that could also have

1090
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,320
psychic abilities and see in the future, But she'd also

1091
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:39,760
bang you.

1092
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,079
Speaker 4: She would suck the soul out of people, right, and

1093
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,280
then they would kill her kill them afterwards.

1094
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's fucking so bad, right, who would I traveled

1095
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,119
for six days, havn't showered.

1096
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,679
Speaker 4: In three weeks?

1097
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Like, I guess if you let's bone and then.

1098
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 4: Killed, just want to get laid, like sure, but like,

1099
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,519
just murder them. You don't have to fuck them for

1100
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,199
money because once you murder them, you have all their

1101
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,480
money is yours, all of it.

1102
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:08,119
Speaker 2: I think she just liked it.

1103
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: That's fine, that's fine. But let's be clear here. She

1104
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:14,599
was not a prostitute.

1105
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: It was an unnecessary step.

1106
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:17,679
Speaker 4: She's a good witch, dude.

1107
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,639
Speaker 2: She wanted dick, that's all we just do. I guess

1108
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:27,760
John Junior wasn't fucking bringing it clearly. In the end,

1109
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,679
it was Kate who was primarily blamed for the numerous

1110
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,280
bloody murders that, even at her young age, was the

1111
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,639
inspiration for the crimes. So she also they don't really

1112
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:41,639
know what happened to her. The sensational tales and rumors

1113
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:44,760
of the Benders continued well into the twentieth century. But

1114
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:47,880
what happened to them remains one of the greatest unsolved

1115
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,639
mysteries of the Old West, and.

1116
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:52,679
Speaker 4: That what's unsolved? Oh, just what happened to them?

1117
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: What happened to them? Where they go? Yeah, fair enough,

1118
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,400
Like they know the one dude died of a stroke,

1119
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,800
one guy died of an alleged suicide, but they don't

1120
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,639
know why Appnicat or mob Barker or mob Bender. We

1121
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,360
did an episode on mab Barker with Jake, so it's

1122
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:09,679
I had to like double check to make sure it

1123
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,360
wasn't the same family. Yeah, it's like, did we do

1124
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,039
this episode a lot of moss a mob Barker. It

1125
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,840
was a crime family. That's awesome, This mob Bender.

1126
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,639
Speaker 3: They are thriving and have children among us right now.

1127
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you live in West Texas, you might be

1128
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,760
related to these people.

1129
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: If you're there's a non Zerola country, yeah absolutely.

1130
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: If you're buy that like New Mexico border, you're out

1131
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:34,480
towards Lubbock.

1132
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also you shouldn't be there. Not a fun place.

1133
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 4: No kind of.

1134
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: Kind of makes sense. Good they sought refuge there.

1135
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: But.

1136
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a fun little tale. Huh.

1137
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the part where they bashed the infantas

1138
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,800
skull and buried an eight year old lot that's pretty.

1139
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Sweet after breaking her legs to the point where they

1140
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,679
could fold it over.

1141
00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:01,039
Speaker 4: Her located way for an eight year old to die.

1142
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,119
Speaker 3: And like what was it like a stomping that broke

1143
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:04,719
her chest plate? Like what the fuck?

1144
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,559
Speaker 2: They might have hammered her in yeah, who knows? Yeah,

1145
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,480
getting creative.

1146
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,119
Speaker 4: I do like that. The one guy was just like, ew,

1147
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,880
your sheet's gross. Can I say somewhere else? Like everyone

1148
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,679
else was just like, this chick's pretty hot. I'm not

1149
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,199
gonna say anything about the sheet. Uh, like I would,

1150
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:20,800
but the chick's so hot that.

1151
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: I well, maybe that's what you kind of excuse for

1152
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,840
the sheet being gross is she's a prostitute.

1153
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 4: I think it was just they were just a nighbor

1154
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,239
in general, you know what I mean, Like you you

1155
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,840
won't say things like all right, let's say you're with

1156
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,199
a hot girl, right and you get in her car

1157
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,400
and for whatever reason, she's just messy and her car's

1158
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,360
a mess. You're not gonna fucking say anything about it. No, absolutely,

1159
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,280
Like what's your car?

1160
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,559
Speaker 3: You have to like, you know, when you get a

1161
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,480
foot and you can give like kick some soda cans.

1162
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you're kicking away.

1163
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: And she'll be like, oh, sorry, it's kind of and

1164
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,280
you're like, oh.

1165
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:50,079
Speaker 4: Dude, it's fine. I have French fries in my car too.

1166
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,159
And then she gonna bash your fucking brains with a hammer,

1167
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:56,440
but you're not gonna care because she's you know, titties, titties. Essentially,

1168
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,480
that's what happened with them. They were all like, oh god,

1169
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:00,719
she's fucking discussing the chicks hots, all right, it's fun.

1170
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna I'm gonna get late.

1171
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:06,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, fun a brain that brains, I don't whatever, dude,

1172
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:09,039
this chick's smoke show that.

1173
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: That's what they did.

1174
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,519
Speaker 4: But the one guy, the neat freak guy, was like, no,

1175
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:13,960
this thing's fucking fouled.

1176
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: I won't.

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00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,559
Speaker 4: I fuck you, and I'll pay to fuck you, but

1178
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:19,679
I'm not sitting at it behind the sheet. This thing's

1179
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,599
fucking gross. And also like, I'm paying you, so don't

1180
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:25,239
tell me where to sit. You work for my dick

1181
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:26,079
right now.

1182
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she laughs at all my jokes.

1183
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know everyone else is a fucking simp. She's

1184
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:34,079
just laughing with it. Yeah, if in her hand. Everyone else,

1185
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,400
every other guy was like, oh, I better not blow this,

1186
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:38,239
like you're not paying her, you know what I mean? Like, oh,

1187
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:39,760
I want her to like not take my money all

1188
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,480
of the sudden, the prostitute. But the one guy, the

1189
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:47,079
one guy that understood everything that was happening, that was like,

1190
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,039
this ship's gross. I'm paying you to fuck me. So

1191
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,320
I don't care what you think. He lived.

1192
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,039
Speaker 2: If you simps die. And that's what we learned today,

1193
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,039
sims die. You need to call people out in their bullshit.

1194
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:02,280
That's a valuable life lesson.

1195
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:07,199
Speaker 4: That's our biggest takeaway. Who stays Hitler this fucking family?

1196
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,800
Good lord, pick one the worst one. I don't know,

1197
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,840
the chick. I guess she's slitting throats, the one whoever

1198
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,360
bashed in the baby's brains? Uh?

1199
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: The chicken? The yeah, that kid?

1200
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: Hitler there, Hitler, I don't I know everyone knows this.

1201
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,199
But if you don't have a child, like truly, I

1202
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:32,320
don't think you understand. You can't understand how I.

1203
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: Have a dog?

1204
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: How yeah dog dead it is? You have to be

1205
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,960
devoid of humanity to do that, like vacant.

1206
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,079
Speaker 2: You don't have a soul. You don't crazy.

1207
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: So I was going another route. I was gonna go

1208
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,039
with the train conductor who just made up ship that

1209
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:56,719
they would north.

1210
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,559
Speaker 4: Also they went north southeast.

1211
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:00,719
Speaker 2: He spreading this information.

1212
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were never found because she's like, oh yeah,

1213
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,639
I saw that they were going up.

1214
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: Told me that going on in the Kansas City Lawn, California.

1215
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,800
She's the funk up. You don't know, you don't know,

1216
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,599
that's the hitler.

1217
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have been brought to justice. But all

1218
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,480
my past, and also go back to the beginning of this,

1219
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:26,800
I think she is proper with magical powers.

1220
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,079
Speaker 4: She got away.

1221
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: I can't fuck you guess clearly.

1222
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:30,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

1223
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: And then we'll add a question onto this.

1224
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:33,679
Speaker 4: Would you.

1225
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: Would you take your shot with Kate?

1226
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing would stop me, not even

1227
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,760
a bloody tarp.

1228
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: Especially back of all back then too, She's got like

1229
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,639
these mystic powers. There's like an aura about her. We've

1230
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:48,000
all had sex with crazy chicks.

1231
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,199
Speaker 3: She has a knife to my throat. I've been traveling

1232
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:51,000
for six days.

1233
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've all had We've all had sex with mentally

1234
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,960
uneven women. Some would say most we know what that's like. Dude,

1235
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,159
I had imagine that level of I had.

1236
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: A reverse Mexican lady I dated. Well, normally they try

1237
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,360
and stab us. She gave me a knife and told

1238
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,400
me to stab her. That's actually true. We got into

1239
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,119
a big fight.

1240
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: And because you wouldn't, she grabbed a knife.

1241
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna She's like, oh, I'm gonna die, and

1242
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,639
then she like handed it to me to kill her

1243
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:24,719
because she was like suicidal.

1244
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: Oh it's pretty cool. That's why you have that's why

1245
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,920
you subscribed to the Patriot. Did you do it? No?

1246
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: Uh, I just think about it.

1247
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,079
Speaker 3: I went home and I was like, I'm sorry, we're

1248
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:37,440
breaking up now we can't.

1249
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: The only thing I can kill is this relationship. Yeah,

1250
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:41,760
do you.

1251
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: Fuck her after?

1252
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,519
Speaker 4: Though?

1253
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were like dating for like months,

1254
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,480
like we were dating for months. No, No, that that night,

1255
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:48,360
I just went home and broke up.

1256
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: But I was wondering if you pushed through it, I

1257
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,039
probably could have should have.

1258
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,199
Speaker 4: I know very I don't think you should have, but

1259
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:56,920
I know you could have.

1260
01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were dating. I was like, Oh, she's like,

1261
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,719
not a crazy Mexican that wants to stab me. Fast

1262
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,000
forward like six months, she wanted me to stuff her

1263
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:10,199
funny story. She reverse carded her own race, and I

1264
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:13,239
was like kind of like that, but also I'm going home,

1265
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:16,360
and with.

1266
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: That we'll leave you for today. That is the story

1267
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,960
of the Bloody Benders Lopez, Scott. It's always a pleasure, yeah, always,

1268
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,159
so much good luck on your quests.

1269
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I have so many more quests.

1270
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: You're welcome back anytime when you're you know, when you

1271
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,760
have some downtime, when I'm not when you're not casting.

1272
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: Ding my chariot through town and casting love spells that

1273
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,559
sometimes turned the fireball and you got to roll four

1274
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:43,280
D tens.

1275
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:48,519
Speaker 2: The risk you take. Yeah, yeah, anyway, for Scott Lopez

1276
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,639
and Rob Fox, I'm damn Chester and you just got

1277
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:52,119
a saucer.