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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It is time for full

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Court Press. It's Monday morning. But Rob and I have

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been with you all weekend, just on the other show

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with the babysitter Belly Stewart.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's actually I had a I had a blast doing

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that show yesterday and with you guys over the weekend.

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I do want to bring up though we haven't been

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on this show since Friday, and I know Kel likes

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to get right into the game, so we got to

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just kind of recaut the weekend quick.

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Speaker 2: I'll go first.

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Speaker 1: Three and five on the weekend for me Rob quite

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frustrating because it's one of those weekends where like a

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free thrower too in a couple of different games and

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I'm probably five and three, you know. Yesterday East Tennessee

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State goes to the line. Misses both got stuck with

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a bad number and l I U was not anticipating

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a wave of Wagner money ninety minutes before the game.

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So the bigger takeaway though for me here and I

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think the more something like more pertinent than me just

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coming on and complaining about being on the wrong end

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of a free throw. Here there is the market and

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the lines in these games are moving much differently in

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my opinion, than they did all season long. It's almost

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like there's two way action in every single game there is.

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You'll see a move I'll use Merrimac for an example. Yesterday,

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that's probably respected money, and then you'll see like big

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time pushback that like in that game specifically pushed it

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all the way past the opening number. I think that's

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sort of been the biggest sort of challenge for me,

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is gauging where these numbers are going. Now, you and

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I have talked about this a ton, It's not going

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to change. You know, I'm a handicapper.

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Speaker 2: You know, I make all of my own plays.

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Speaker 1: There has nothing to do with like the market and

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what the market is doing, So I don't really care

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about the wave lines are are moving per se. But

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you certainly want to get the best number for your bet,

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and you know that's something that I'm kind of just

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trying to figure out going into this week.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about your weekend as a whole.

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Speaker 1: I know you had a good day Saturday, and if

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you're experiencing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we ended up minus one unit for the weekend. Adam.

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What I made Saturday wound up giving back Sunday again,

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probably due to a couple of unlucky free for it's

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more frustrating at the end of game and for me

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when you're playing total and it's a foul situation because

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the team is scrambling to come back. I speak specifically

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about Colgate Lehigh over one forty six and you get

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the free throw shooter that you want on the line

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multiple times, and you walk away in bonus plus situations

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with only one out of two and you want to

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you know you're an eighty percent free throw shooter. Three times,

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you're gonna go up there and brick one. Any one

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of those gets you at least to a push. But

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like you say, sometimes that works in your favor. The

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night closed out last night really really strong. So opening

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to the day was a little bit sluggish, but last

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night's close was really strong, including a couple of my

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favorite plays on the day. And sometimes you play them

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on instinct, Adam, and what you're seeing regardless of where

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the market's pushing them. I didn't understand how Oregon State

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could be at three and a half point underdog to

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San Francisco wound up being true. They started out slow,

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but they finished strong win the game outright Idaho. I

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talked an awful lot about Colton Mitchell being out, the

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starting point guard out for that team for like three games.

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He returned a couple of games back and then played

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last night and they beat Montana State outright. I happen

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to play their team total over sixty nine and a half,

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which was pretty easy, but some of my favorite stuff

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went late at night. And one more that really again,

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it shows you how much difference in this game when

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we say shop and get the best number, please do

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William and Mary host over one fifty four get to

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one fifty three. That game had eighty three points at

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halftime Hostra was going crazy. And then you know, I

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think if you told me before that game started at

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him that Hostro was going to score ninety two. Is

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the game that he gets over one fifty five going

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to tell you, yeah, where do I sign up? And

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Bill and Mary come through so big. Summary here was

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almost a wash. Got to watch a lot of basketball

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for only one percent for one unit again since December one,

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which is now so far in the rear view marriage

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January February March, four months later, still the number two

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handicaper at wager Talk, winning months ever since then. So

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everything's been good. But yesterday a couple that you would

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have liked to have your way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked that you brought up the instinct portion

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because that that's sort of what got me a win yesterday.

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and I just had a I just knew Sienna was

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gonna win. I was, I was at the game, I

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was at Boardwalk Hall, and and I just like, and

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that was a great example. The fair field money just

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kept coming in and coming in, and that was where

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I was like, Okay, like this is I just have

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to punch back at this. Now you're gonna basically give

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me Sienna on the money line. I felt like, I

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just that that was more of a gut play for me,

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and it came through. And that may be sort of

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how I approach these next couple of days, because again

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I ended up. I was sitting didn't it didn't matter,

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but I was sitting there with Merrimack minus four that

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went all the way down to two and a half,

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and and I again some of the linees have been puzzling,

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especially that Long Island move from over the weekend with

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Fuller being fully in there, played the whole game and

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had an So we're gonna get into it today because

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and here's here's the segue, Rob, We're gonna start today

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off with the Sun Belt Championship game. If you don't

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think the Sun Belt Championship Games a feature game today,

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I mean I got news for you right like.

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Speaker 2: This is the feature game of the day.

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Speaker 1: I know Gonzaga is playing, I know Saint Mary's is

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playing whatever, But there's a tournament bit on the line

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in the Sunbelt and we have a team that could

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win six games in six days. That's Georgia Southern. Who

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did it again? Last night, Rob, you and I talked

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about Georgia Southern Marshall with Kelly on Sunday's edition of

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Full Court Press. I will say I'm not surprised that

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Georgia Southern one. I think we both made a case

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for the dog during our breakdown. What I am surprised

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at is that Georgia Southern one. With the game staying

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under I'll throw a number at you, seven for twenty

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six from three twenty something percent. I didn't think they

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could win without sort of going nuts from three. So

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my question to you is this, is this where six

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games and six days finally catches up with them, And

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even though they won yesterday, did you start to see

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some fatigue from this crazy run through the Sun Belt Gauntlet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you hit on the point. And in fact,

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I haven't written here in my notes that the numbers

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Georgia Southern posted offensively. The eighty two is still eighty two,

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no matter how they got there, it's still eighty two points.

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It's the fifth consecutive game in this tourney that they've

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scored eighty plus. However, like you say, the shooting percentages

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on both ends came down for this game two point

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and three point. There were a couple of games I

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remember talking with you and Kelly yesterday or maybe Saturday.

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I think gave mentioned Georgia Southern a couple of games back.

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They put up fifty two shots from the field, forty

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four were threes and they made twenty three of them.

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they even those numbers out. It wasn't a such a

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harsh ratio toward the three, but they shot it well again,

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and then yesterday against Marshall, win the game, just don't

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shoot it as well. One thing I'll just speak to

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from a please for those watching, and I know a

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bunch of those who watch us every day, whether live

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or after the show's done on YouTube, I know a

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lot of you pay attention to what's going on here.

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But for those who don't specifically know teams, I think

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it's so important to know the teams here. Adam, you

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and I have talked all season long on this show,

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so hopefully the folks who watch us know. But you

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hear and read all over the place, Oh my god,

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fourth game in four days, they're going to be tired.

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Oh my god, fifth game in five days, you're gonna

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be tired. But you have to know Georgia Southern, and

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I said it yesterday, it's a team that's built for this.

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When you have an Alabama assistant, you're built to go

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five games in five days. Your condition that way. So

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it's no surprise that Georgia Southern specifically could play five

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consecutive days, not tire, win five consecutive games. But in

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regards to tonight's game, I do take into account what

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you said, because, like I said, it was in my notes,

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the shooting percentages came down and the fact that in

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their only meeting this year against Troy, and this will

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be Troy's second game, Troy sat around for eight days

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before they played a game, and then they played Southern

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and they win in this specific meeting first time around.

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it better. They played Georgia Southern's game, They outshot him,

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they crushed him on the boards, which is where this

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game was decided, but they only won by five points

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eighty three seventy eight point being Georgia Southern wasn't able

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to use their style to their advantage in this particular matchup.

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came down yesterday. This is a team where you played

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them at home. They kind of outdid you in the

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ninety four foot wide open court game. The points are

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kind of interesting here when you look at how many

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points you're going to get with Georgia Southern. I don't know, Adam,

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that they'll be thoroughly fatigued again. They're conditioned to play

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this way. But you have to take notes. You look

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at the number five and a half pushed all the

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way up to six and a half and some sevens Now,

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people are just going to be like, you know what

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Georgia Southern's done. I don't think they're cooked six games

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in six days the way they're accustomed to playing, But

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I do think Troy does have some advantages. Georgia Southern's

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been very lucky the way this bracket fell, if you

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ask me, because they've had I think three opponents where

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they've played teams that they swept the season series, teams

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that couldn't compete with them in that particular style of game.

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lay seven with Troy. I don't know that this one's

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gonna get out of hand, but I don't think Georgia

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Southern is gonna walk away with the trophy here either.

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So decision time, Which way do I want to roll?

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Speaker 2: Total?

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Speaker 3: Here? One fifty two and a half bit down to

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one fifty one and a half someone fifty and a half.

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There is no way, there is no way I'd be

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on under in a zillion years, No way I'd be

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on under and I mentioned yesterday really quick as I

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close out, every single Sun Belt Conference game for the

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first six days had total one fifty seven or better.

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Yesterday was the first game I think we had a game,

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the Marshall game got won sixty. But what was the

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earlier game I'm trying to look at. Yeah, the earlier

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game Troy and Southern miscot one forty eight. That is

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the only game in this entire tournament, a week long tournament,

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that hasn't hit at least one fifty seven. So there's

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no way I'd play under. I could look at over here.

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I'm gonna let the market do what they do, though, Adam,

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and probably push this down even further and then take

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a better number with the total.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: The fascinating thing about the total is is Troy plays slow,

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like their tempo is is outside the top three hundred.

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play slow against a team that that might be you know,

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battling it a little bit like Listen, I don't think

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I don't think the fatigue thing should be moving this

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number the way it is, Like, go ask anyone in

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that locker room.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna play they're playing for.

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Speaker 1: An NCAA tournament bid, Like, I don't think anyone's in

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there being like man, I wish we didn't have a

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game today, Like they're probably ready, they're probably as fired

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up as anything. Where where fatigue might come into play

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is just straight up like legs on the jumper. I

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do think that that seven for twenty six from three

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yesterday is is concerning a little bit, Like you know,

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Georgia Southern shoots twenty nine free throws in that game yesterday.

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If they don't, if they don't have the benefit of

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living at the line there, that's uh, you know, maybe

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that's a different outcome in that game. It to to

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give you the pros Troy side of things. Scott Cross

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really good at making adjustments. That's why Troy has been

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one of the best teams or arguably the best team

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in the Sun Belt all year.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's it's a very.

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Speaker 1: Interesting game because I think Troy playing their game, it's

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a little bit of a slower paced game.

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Speaker 2: But then again, like that might not.

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Speaker 1: Be their game plan tonight because you obviously want to

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take advantage of you don't really want to slow it

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down for a team that's now on their six game

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in six days, so fascinating game. I guess the one

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final point I'll make from a betting standpoint, I don't

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think this should be steaming past seven like that. That

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to me, I think the fatigue and all of that

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stuff was already pretty baked into the opener. And if

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you're gonna start getting to seven to seven and a half,

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I mean, this is a conference championship game.

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Speaker 2: To to think Georgia Southern is just gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Quietly, I think I think you you know I would

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I would be I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Be dying to lay a bad number here. Let's put

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it that way. If you like Troy, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: I see merit to the choice out of the handicap,

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but I think you'd want that original number or maybe

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hope that it comes back to that number and then

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play it at seven.

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Speaker 2: Or let's say this gets to seven and a half.

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I could only look at the.

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Speaker 3: Dog really quick. Yeah, justly. I hardly ever do just

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one hundred percent of the shows that we do, Adham.

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I'm on YouTube looking at the chat zero times out

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of one hundred, but I happen to be in there

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today and I just see this comment from Billy Humphrey

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remind me not to bet late games. I end up

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staying up lating to the night listen. I can't tell

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you when we lost that hour Saturday. You want to

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cry the next morning when you have to get up

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immediately at the crack of dawn. For those of us

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in this industry that do this work, you know it

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was a five thirty am after I lost the hour

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the night before, trying to be ready and prepped for

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the show the next day and get my plate in

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and whatnot. So I understand it's wild swear to this

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day that the East Coast time zone is the worst

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time zone to be in for this business. But it's

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what it is. And I know you quote John roth

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Steve quite a bit. We'll sleep in May. I guess

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that's what we'll do. We'll sleep in May listen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, how about when the how about when

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the mac semi Finally you're at tips off at eight

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forty and then you feel the need to stay after

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just to wap up g MAC and you find yourself

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talking to a bunch of Sienna people and all of

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a sudden you're like, oh, I got to drive an

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hour back to my sister still and now it's after midnight.

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But you know, so that's what we're working with here today.

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But wouldn't want it any other way. Let's put it

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this way. It was a fun drive. It was a

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breeze of an hour. If Cianna lost that game, it

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would have been a much longer drive for your boy.

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Speaker 2: So well, we're gonna move on.

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Speaker 1: Garth has a Garth first of all, appreciate the donation

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and shout out to Garth who's been here every day,

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you know, contributing his own great stuff. The donations go

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to a good cause, so we really appreciate that. Wouldn't

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it needed to donate to hit this game because we

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were going here anyway, But we very much appreciate that

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you do. He says, one in one weekend run goes

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to fifteen and five last twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to talk about like a documented run.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Garth donates and we put it on

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the screen every day is like documenting his run because

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I can. I mean, you know that that's everyone you

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could look at right here, he says. He's going with

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East Tennessee State team. Total over sixty nine and a half.

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East Tennessee State is fifteen and three to this number

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in conference play this season.

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Speaker 2: Put it up three times.

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Speaker 1: They didn't, they didn't didn't they put up seven, sixty seven,

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sixty eight, sixty nine. So yeah, I have a gripe

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with East Tennessee State. I was on them yesterday. Minus

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the three rob they I don't think by any means

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they deserve to cover that game. If you watch the game,

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they were We were very, very fortunate to even be

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in position to win the game. Thankfully, Western Carolina went

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ice cold for the last like eight nine minutes of

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that game, but East Tennessee State still went to the

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line with a chance to ice it.

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Speaker 2: They missed them.

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Speaker 1: Both had to dodge a bullet last second shot by

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Western Carolina.

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Speaker 3: No good.

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Speaker 2: They win sixty nine sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: My.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of easy shots missed yesterday for

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East Tennessee and then combine that with the fact that

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they went eight for twenty three from three. Some of

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those easy shots were three pointers that were great looks.

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Speaker 2: They just missed them. You know, they missed eight foul shots.

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That's not very good.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen for twenty one rob from the free throw line,

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So you know, Garth likes the team total over. I

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don't know that we've really seen a great etsu offensive

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performance yet in this tournament. And you know the concern

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I guess the concerning part for me here because I

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want to like the Bucks too. I mean, you know,

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just from the stubbornness factor. I laid the three with

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them yesterday. They lose, they win the game, but they

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managed to not be able to cover the small number.

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I've said for for months now, so bad SoCon this year.

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But East Tennessee State, for me, was the best of

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this what I consider like bad bunch down year in

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a conference that's usually much better, much better than this.

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So I want to take East Tennessee State. But I

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look at their last four games, I look at how

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the offense is dipped them late, and I have my

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you know, that is what gives me a little bit

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of concern. But that being said, Garth thinks are scoring

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seventy at least tonight. I think if East Tennessee State

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gets his team total over, they win this game.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about East Tennessee State. Furman. We

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got another conference job.

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Speaker 1: We got another attorney bid on the line here in

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the Silicon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is interesting. Adam, because when I talked about

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instinct yesterday, I played Furman on instinct. You now, I

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watched Bob Ritchie's team down the backstretch after they got healthy.

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Remember they played so many games without Asa Thomas, without

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Cooper Bowser in the lineup, and I was watching one

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Furman game I forget who who the opponent was about

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six games ago, and the commentator. It's great watching Southern

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Conference games because the guys who do the play by

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play and the analysis are tuned in to the Southern directly.

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They do every game, so you get a little bit

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of extra stuff that as much as I handicap and

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as much as I said I wouldn't really know, got

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a feel for Furman. Played them yesterday. They got behind early,

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they came back and won that game, and I had

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their team total over seventy seven and a half because

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I like the way their offense is going with the

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two guys back for now quite a few games. Big

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lousey first half, really big second half. I too, have

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a great with Etsu. Went on the air with you

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and Kelly yesterday made this case for Etsu first half

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blown out in the first half. I bet the wrong half, right,

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I should have bet second half because second half was

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all Etsu. But Furman to me right now is and

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I'm speaking only from side right at this moment, Furman's

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a difficult opponent. I think. For ETSU two games this year,

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East Tennessee wins. Both of those games, one was in overtime,

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the most recent was a little less than a month ago,

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about three weeks ago, seventy eight to sixty nine East

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Tennessee State. To Garth's point about East Tennessee State, I

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like the fact that he brings up the number that

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he does, because that's kind of the way I gauge

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things too. The only thing I'll say to Garth is

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I did put one more under the total that they're

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expected to get to tonight because they played the Furman

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game in overtime, and that game was sixty one in regulation,

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So I kind of count that as an under because

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they didn't get there in regulation. They did get over

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this total with the overtime included. I think in this game,

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the East Tennessee State defense is what the discrepancy in defense,

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I guess is what I'm trying to say here is

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what scares me a little bit about betting Furman. However,

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I counter that with your point about etsu you watch

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that offense yesterday and you wonder it's not. It wasn't

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great all season long. They were carried by their defense,

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and it didn't look great yesterday, So Furman could certainly

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hang around. I think Furman's just rounding it to form

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at this point in time as a group. Adam and

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I kind of trust Bob Ritchie, so I think if

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I was gonna bet side, i'd be on Furman. I

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haven't played the game. I'm not gonna argue Garth off

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of over sixty nine and a half. Again, that's a

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fairly low number against a not so great Furman defense.

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Actually it's been better as of late. It's funny you

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have to divide this season into a couple of pieces

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because they didn't play with some parts for such a

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long while. And I can't disagree with Garth here on

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his take, but I do think, you know, I wish

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I had enough instinct like I had yesterday to pull

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the trigger on Furman because I think they might pull

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this thing out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, talk about Bob Ritchie, I've always thought

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he was you know, he's he's always in the If

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you were to rank out SoCon coaches. I mean, he's

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been there for a while. He's always going to be

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near the top of your list coaches in this conference.

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The thing with Furman, though, that's impressed me, that that

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makes it you know, it makes me less inclined to

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play against him, is they've cleaned up some of these

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turnover issues that were plaguing them earlier in the year.

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You know, this is a team you pull up, you

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just pull up the season long numbers, and you know

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they're outside the top two hundred. Turned the ball over

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eleven point three times per game. That number was a

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lot worse going back earlier in the season. They really

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had a hard time getting into the offense. The guards

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they I don't think they really had early in the

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year a true ball handler, and that really hurt them

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in some of you know what wasn't really not an

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impressive first couple of months they had.

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Speaker 2: You know, the.

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Speaker 1: You look back now and those losses in the non

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conference High Point, Troy, Northern Iowa, and Illinois State are

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not bad losses by any means. Those are four pretty

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good teams. But the early loss in conference played a

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Western Carolina back early January, you know, lost to that

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that loss to the Citadel was probably the low point

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of their season, losing to the Citadel. But since then,

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I do feel like they've they've cleaned it up. And

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then you talk about East Tennessee State winning the two

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regular season games, that second win for East Tennessee State,

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it is right around the time that it feels like

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this team peaked a little bit and they haven't really

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been the same since. You look at the last four

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games for ETSU, you know, lose, they lose to Offer,

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they lose to Mercer to close out their regular season,

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and I'd argue that the you know, the two games

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in the conference tournament so far, Citadel.

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Speaker 2: They let them back into the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they win by seven, but that was certainly not

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as convincing of a performance as one would expect. And

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then you're just a very disappointing effort from them yesterday.

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So on one side, I say, well that I know

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they're better than what we saw yesterday. But on the

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other side, I say, what, Okay, they're gonna have to

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now beat Ferman three times in a season, and yet

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the team that's shown up here in this conference tournament

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is probably not as good as the team that beat

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00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,799
firm in the first two times, and then you're coming

479
00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,279
in and telling me that Furman is better than they

480
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,799
were the first two times they cleave the East Tennessee State.

481
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,799
So uh yeah, I can't. I don't really have much

482
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,599
to disagree with, Garth. I mean, listen, if East Tennessee

483
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,720
State cleans it up a little bit. This is a

484
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,519
team that shoots the free throw very very good.

485
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: They've been I.

486
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Think top fifty from the foul line all year. So

487
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,720
missing eight file shots is kind of uncharacter wistic of them.

488
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,279
You get some of that cleaned up and a little

489
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,400
bit better of a shooting performance, Like I said, eight

490
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,480
eight for twenty three from three a little bit uncharacteristic

491
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,359
as well. Miss some open shots. The open shots go in, Garth,

492
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680
you're going to get your team total over. But yeah, Rob,

493
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,160
I'm with you. I think you could make.

494
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: Case for both sides, you know, in this game.

495
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,279
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is I'd love to use as

496
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,039
part of the handicap. East Tennessee had to use so

497
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,839
much energy to come back from what was a huge

498
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,880
deficit at the end of the first half at him,

499
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,400
and you'd like to say, man, that was a drain

500
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,200
and you could see the crowd the team when they

501
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,400
realized they were going to win that game. Yesday. It

502
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,920
was a huge mountain to climb. They got there. However,

503
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,920
you could counter that by saying Furman almost had to

504
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,839
climb the same mountain. Furman was buried in the first

505
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,359
half and had to make a huge comeback. So you

506
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,119
can't even use that type of argument against one or

507
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,799
the other. It stands for both. I just happened to

508
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,519
think again, gut feel Furman's rounding it the form at

509
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,519
this point in time, and man, I wish I was

510
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:03,359
getting more than one and a half, I'd be there,

511
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,079
but I'm not.

512
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: And we'll move on in a second. But the final

513
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,759
thing I'll say is there is historical precedence for Furman

514
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,200
rounding in the form and then winning this tournament even

515
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,039
when they're not supposed to. I feel like they've done

516
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,680
it a couple of times where you know, you go back,

517
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,559
just like recent history in this league. Samford, as you know,

518
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:26,000
with Bucky McMillan, was always like kind of the team

519
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,759
at the top, and there's been other years that Greensboro

520
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:32,440
has had really good teams, and you can you know,

521
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:36,160
there's the Chattanooga has had really good teams.

522
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,599
Speaker 2: Has won the regular season in this year.

523
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: But like when the dust settles, it's been and it's

524
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,640
been in Like if you go like the last ten

525
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,079
years or so, dust settles and Furman is right there.

526
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,799
Of course, the year that comes to mind when they

527
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,559
stunned Virginia a couple of years ago in the NCAA tournament.

528
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: But they always seem to.

529
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: Just lurk, right, Rob, and then they come in to

530
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,920
this tournament, play their best ball and leave with the

531
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,839
trophy and buy you finishes it up by saying, let's

532
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:05,400
be honest, Ets, you had no business winning yesterday. Western

533
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Carolina lost that game more than Ets you won it.

534
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: I would agree.

535
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: So as someone that had an ETSU ticket right there,

536
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,680
I think you are. I think you're probably right about that.

537
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's before we move on quick promo. Rob

538
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,880
and I. We've been here all season. We'll be here

539
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,759
with you all March.

540
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys showing up, tuning in, interacting with

541
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,519
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542
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to support is, of course, head on over to wager Talk.

543
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We've got packages up for the rest of the season.

544
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,440
We've got packages up for three days. Tell you what,

545
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:42,920
right now, there's no don't don't buy the three day

546
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package on selection Sunday because of course there's no games Monday.

547
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,920
But actually it doesn't matter because wager talk will just

548
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,279
bump you forward a day that there's no games. A

549
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,519
point is Rob, that was a bad way of trying

550
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,240
to make the point that, like, we're gonna have games

551
00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,839
pretty much every day. There's plenty of action we're coming

552
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,119
up on, I mean, Championship Week, all the big conference

553
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,079
tournaments in play. I see you guys asking for the

554
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,799
Alabama State two pm tip off, the Swack Tournament gets

555
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,039
under way. We'll get there, but first I want to

556
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,599
go to mad Max and Max appreciate the donation. He

557
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,200
says four and O in his last four picks. I

558
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,519
need to get I need to get back to form.

559
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,279
I need the Garth and the mad Max form here, Rob,

560
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,359
That's how that was my forum up until about Wednesday

561
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,200
or so. And I've been been kind of like battling

562
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,880
through a couple of you know, bad days. But love

563
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,079
to see you guys cashing tickets. Garth says, I like

564
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:43,440
Saint Mary's today. They have a defensive edge in every category,

565
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,920
biggest disparities in rebounding. Last time they played, they had

566
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,359
fifty one rebounds to Santa Clara's twenty one. Also fifteen

567
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880
and o at home. Well, I remember that game well, Rob.

568
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Saint Mary's most recent game against Santa Clara. I had

569
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Saint Mary's in that game. That was a no sweat,

570
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,599
blowout winner out in Moraga, California. But Santa Clara was

571
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,599
good in the first meeting. So I'll kick it over

572
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,799
to you because you know you're kind of our resident

573
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,640
WCC West Coast guy here. What do you think West

574
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,079
Coast Conference semi finals tonight? Believe this is the rubber

575
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,000
match between Santa Clara and Saint Mary's.

576
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. Boy, as much as I want to love Herbs

577
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,960
and Dick and Santa Clara, it's hard at this price

578
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,039
tag to get there at him for me at least,

579
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,279
first of all, Mad Max. And you know, we'll say

580
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,519
it one time here and definitely when we closed out

581
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,240
the show at the end of the year, I'll say

582
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:45,960
it again. But the guys in the chat, I mean

583
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,119
the level of knowledge and the level of handicapper that we.

584
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't even need to make notes, Rob, I don't

585
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,799
even need to write the stacks down.

586
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: They just pick it up for me in the chat

587
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,599
because in my notes right here in front of me.

588
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200
For this game, Saint Mary's plus thirty rebound it was

589
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,759
fifty one twenty one, twenty one points off of offensive rebounds.

590
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,839
Excuse me, twenty one offensive rebounds, fifty eight point three

591
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,839
percent of possessions or shots rebounded. That was the key

592
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,359
to the last game. Mad match made it for me.

593
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,559
It wasn't that way in the first game. And I

594
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,240
don't know if Santa Clara caught Saint Mary's a little

595
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,359
bit by surprise or not, but Santa Clara did win

596
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,000
that game, and it was in very atypical Santa Clara fashion.

597
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,960
Sixty two to fifty four in a Santa Clara game,

598
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,279
Beating Saint Mary's at their own turtle style game just

599
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,640
shouldn't happen. Saint Mary's came back and they won the

600
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,279
high scoring game the second time. They scored eighty six.

601
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,880
I really liked the Saint Mary's team at this point

602
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,720
in time, and I like Santa Clara too. I really

603
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400
wish they could get an NCAAA bit. I think they're deserving.

604
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,039
But when you run up against Saint Mary's and Gonzaga

605
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:55,279
in this league at crunch time. I just the one

606
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:00,559
thing is Santa Clara feasts defensively so much off of

607
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,079
forcing turnovers, and Saint Mary's is so disciplined, they just

608
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,279
don't turn it over enough. If Santa Clara can't get you,

609
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:09,799
you know, they kind of pick up in that full

610
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,799
court press right away. They pressured the inbounds pass off

611
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,440
of a make, et cetera, et cetera. If they can't

612
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,240
get you there, their half court defense is fairly easy

613
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,480
to pick apart. They shot the ball really really well

614
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:29,400
last night against Pacific, a slow paced team, but that's

615
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680
not Saint Mary's. I just don't know that Santa Claric

616
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,400
can shoot it the way they shot it last night

617
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,079
against this team. And I don't know that the way

618
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,559
they play defense is a good enough way to play

619
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:43,519
it against this particular opponent. Again, we say often styles

620
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:48,599
make matchups. Pacific is a team that led the WCC

621
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:53,119
in turnover percentage. They can't handle the ball. I think

622
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,839
when I did my notes for that game last night,

623
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:56,920
Santa Clara had turned them over like twenty one and

624
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,240
eighteen times in the first two matchups. Yesterday Pacific turned

625
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:05,359
it over less than ten. So my point here is

626
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,960
that if Santa Clara can't turn you over defensively, Saint

627
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,680
Mary's is gonna get good shots and enough possessions to

628
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,880
probably win and cover this game. And if the board

629
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,000
work goes into I'm not expecting plus thirty again, but

630
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,559
if they get double digit plus and rebounding, I don't know, Adam.

631
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,119
To me, this game should be priced a little bit higher.

632
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,000
I'm with Max. I like Saint Mary's in this game. Again,

633
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:31,680
watching Santa Clara all season long, they're probably worthy of

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,519
a tournament bid. They're as good as a lot of

635
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:35,119
teams that are going to be in there, but this

636
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,519
matchup doesn't suit them. So for me it would be

637
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:38,799
Saint Mary's.

638
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll play Devil's advocate for a second. So here's the thing,

639
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:48,680
like you talk about, that's a crazy rebounding disparity in

640
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,960
the last game forty nine to nineteen. Now Saint Mary's

641
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,839
the top ten rebounding team in the country, So that's

642
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,920
you know, you look at that, and then you look

643
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,880
at their season long rebounding numbers and you're like, oh, okay,

644
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:05,920
I could see how Saint Mary's would crush someone on

645
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,880
the glass. They've been top ten all season rebounding, but

646
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,640
Santa Clara is not a bad rebounding team. And I'm

647
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,240
going back to that game in my head, and that

648
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,799
was the game where part so part of my reasoning

649
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,119
in that game actually was like ended up being a

650
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,799
little bit flawed because of course I thought Alan Graves

651
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680
might miss that game. That was the game after he

652
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:31,640
left the game against San Francisco. I thought there was

653
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,759
a good chance that he might not play, because of

654
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:36,480
course it was the same road trip.

655
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: You know. Sometimes you see that and it's like if.

656
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: You're on a back to back on the road, you

657
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:45,000
leave a game, there's a good chance that that guy's

658
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,559
not going to play on the same road trip, you know,

659
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:49,400
maybe comes back the next week.

660
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,039
Speaker 2: But he played.

661
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: And not only did Allan Graves play in that game,

662
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,079
twenty points six boards played pretty much the whole game.

663
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,319
That really to me, that Saint Mary's win and blowout win,

664
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,559
I think had a lot to do with them being

665
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,480
at home and them coming out hot, getting you know,

666
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,880
had the threes falling early. I believe they hit eleven

667
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,719
in the game, and then just the twenty offensive rebounds

668
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,559
they just demoralized Santa Clara in that game and in

669
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,320
the first half where it was just like, you know,

670
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,239
they everything clicked in that game early for Saint Mary's,

671
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,800
and I feel like they were able to just kind

672
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,719
of ride the wave of being in their home gym

673
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,440
where they're very tough to beat.

674
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,199
Speaker 2: You know, they get up.

675
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,519
Speaker 1: It only was a six point game at halftime, but

676
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,920
you hit a couple of shots early in the second half.

677
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,679
I remember thinking, maybe right around the ten minute mark,

678
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,519
I was already counting my money pretty much with Saint

679
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,599
Mary's and I was laying like four or five in

680
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,960
that game. But they're not in Moraga now, Rob, and

681
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,079
I think you take that out and Santa Clara goes

682
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,679
in with the mindset that like, we've got to be

683
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,719
better here on the glass, I could see this game

684
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,559
being more like the first meeting. Not saying Santa Clara wins,

685
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,400
but like, I think I'd be more surprised if this

686
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,320
is just a runaway than I would be.

687
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: A Santa Clair maybe hangs around and you end up.

688
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: Having you know, you end up right near the number,

689
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,679
or Saint Mary's maybe covers by, you know, hitting a

690
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,719
few free throws, getting a couple stops late, So that's

691
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,639
gonna be a good one. I think I lean the dog,

692
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,760
but you're right, Rob, they are maybe making you pay

693
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,320
a little bit of a tax on that number.

694
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: It is crazy too have this season series, in particular

695
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,639
that each team wins a game that is uncharacteristic. How

696
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,239
does Santa Clara win the sixty two to fifty four

697
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
game and how does Saint Mary's win the eighty six

698
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,840
to sixty seven games. It seems like they should have

699
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,280
been swapped. Saint Mary's for what it's worth. In the

700
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,639
game that they lost, shot miserably thirty nine percent from

701
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,760
two point range, eighteen percent from three point range, very

702
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,159
uncharacteristic of them. Neither team shot it good in that game.

703
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,840
We'll see how that one goes. Good. Good tournament out

704
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,159
there at them and like I say, Santa Claia, man,

705
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,400
I like that team, just don't like the particular matchup.

706
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's move it along. Quinn appreciate the donation.

707
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,079
Quinn wants to go.

708
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: To the Horizon.

709
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: We've we've we've been criticized before on the show, Rob

710
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,559
for not talking enough Horizon League basketball. I just laugh

711
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,480
at that because someone said at one time, and like

712
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,679
I brought it up every single time.

713
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: That since that that happened.

714
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,599
Speaker 1: But uh, I think we I think we give the

715
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,000
Horizon the same shake we give any of the other leagues.

716
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,960
These guys now are off of campus home floors and

717
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,679
they are in Indianapolis where they'll play the Semis. So

718
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:43,760
interesting wrinkle in the horizon. They used to be a

719
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,599
campus site tournament. Now they do campus sites through the

720
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:50,840
quarterfinals and they head over to one of the small

721
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,760
I think it used to be like Farmers or something.

722
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,559
It's it's one of the smaller venues I think. I

723
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,199
don't think they're at like the big arena. I think

724
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,440
it's like a smaller arena in Indianapolis that hosts the

725
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,519
Semis and the finals. So Robert Morris, of course, rob

726
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,480
the team that won this last year, a very different

727
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:11,840
team than they had last year, but anty tool, fantastic

728
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,960
coach has them right in position to win again. Detroit

729
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
has been a team I've really liked all year though

730
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,880
as an underdog. I think it's Mike Montgomery. It's it's

731
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,480
the four, it's the kid he used to be at

732
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Michigan State. Michigan State players, their coach, his name. I

733
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,119
know his last name is Montgomery. It's it's his first

734
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,800
name is escaping me. But the reason I bring that

735
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,320
up is he's a Detroit guy and he basically recruited

736
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,039
all Detroit kids on this team. It's like almost you know,

737
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,159
he's almost using like the you know, stay at home

738
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,000
and play way to try to like not lose kids,

739
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360
which I thought was like kind of genius.

740
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: If you're like a.

741
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,639
Speaker 1: Low major type program that's probably gonna lose guys anyway,

742
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,519
you know, just just recruit guys from your own city.

743
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,639
And it's been It's absolutely worked to this point because

744
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,480
Detroit mercy man coming from where they were I mean Mike,

745
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,280
I think it was Mike Davis here previously that had

746
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,039
this team at the very bottom of this league. So

747
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,199
really good season so far for Detroit. Rob I liked

748
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,960
them in the underdog role, and they're in the underdog

749
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:17,800
role here.

750
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,119
Speaker 2: Five and a half points against Robert Morris.

751
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: So how are you seeing this one Horizon League semi

752
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,800
finals Detroit Bobby mo tonight on ESPN two.

753
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the way that Quinn brought the old

754
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:35,159
SDQ well into the chat here twelve and one ats

755
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,960
after a game that goes under interesting trend by Robert Morris.

756
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,440
Noteworthy trend for the Detroit team eight and two against

757
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,320
the spread down the stretch, they caught fire down the

758
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,920
stretch and it continued into the tournament where they went

759
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:53,000
easily against Milwaukee in the opening round. A couple of

760
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,559
meetings this season, Adam Robert Morris wins them both by

761
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,960
eight by eleven. The first game is interesting, played way

762
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,880
way back on January two, and those particular games that

763
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,079
were played way earlier this season. When I've been going

764
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,800
through these conference turners, I've tended to discard them a

765
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,719
little bit, not necessarily interested in what happened on New

766
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Year's Eve, what happened the first week in January, because

767
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,599
these teams do take a different shape and current form

768
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,320
at this time of year. But it is interesting to

769
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,199
me that Robert Morse actually beat Detroit eighty five seventy

770
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:31,159
seven in that first game without their top two point guards.

771
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,119
If ever there was a time for Detroit to beat them,

772
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,199
it would be without your two point guards. However, Robert

773
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,400
Morse was good enough to win. Then they were good

774
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,480
enough to bounce back about ten days ago February twenty

775
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,559
fifth and beat Detroit Mercy again by eleven. I talked

776
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,360
about the eight and two hot streak against the spread

777
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,800
that Detroit's been on. One team that stood in the

778
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,239
way was Robert Morrise beat them by eleven. That stuff

779
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,280
I can't ignore. You know, a lot of credit to

780
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,280
Detroit for what they've done down the stretch, but Robert

781
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,159
Morris just seems to be as good at every turn here. Offensively,

782
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,119
season long numbers inside the conference, they're about the same. Defensively,

783
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,239
Robert Morris notably better, second best defensive efficiency team in

784
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,920
this league. That could be where the separation is tonight.

785
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,400
I think Robert Morris just a little bit better at

786
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,159
all facets of the game. Dan Detroit is neutral floor

787
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,519
again a lot of times it probably favors the dog.

788
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,719
Here's the part that bothers me though, again in these

789
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,280
conference tournament games, laying five and a half against the

790
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,199
team that's red hot right now, a little bit bothersome. However,

791
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,880
the other side of me says, you know what, Rob,

792
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440
ten days ago, they just beat him by eleven. What

793
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,400
are you worried about? They just won this game, this

794
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,840
same exect game, and Detroit was red hot then ten

795
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,559
days ago too, So you get a little bit of

796
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:55,679
counter argument there. The third piece of that is Robert

797
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:58,159
Morris was at home. They're not at home here. Can

798
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:01,800
Detroit shave six point seven points off of that deficit? Maybe?

799
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,000
You never know what happens in these games at them

800
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,639
once they get going here, these conference tournaments turn out

801
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:13,119
wacky wild. I think Robert Morris is the better team.

802
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Laying up to five and a half somewhat questionable here.

803
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
I'm looking at this total of one forty seven and

804
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,440
a half two games this season one thirty five and

805
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,000
the earlier game when Robert Morris played without their top

806
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:28,920
two point guards one sixty two. But these teams are

807
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,320
a lot different than they were then? Am I ever?

808
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,880
So slight lean here is towards Robert Morris. The one

809
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,880
thing I'm afraid of is the five and a half number.

810
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,719
You know, you're up eight, Detroit sticks a three case closed,

811
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,519
Detroit's a winner.

812
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. So we have this is we have

813
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480
some context here. We have a good comparison, right, we

814
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:51,000
have we We just talked about a game that's in

815
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,079
that five and a half point range with Saint Mary's

816
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,800
and Santa Clara, and then we've got this one. They're

817
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,639
both you know, on a neutral we're now trying to

818
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:02,679
evaluate these teams on neutral. You know, we had home

819
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,599
matchups earlier in the season, Like the last game we

820
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:10,239
talked about, I think that number is is better than like,

821
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,719
it is more accurate than this one in the respect

822
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,280
that I almost feel like I almost feel like the

823
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,920
books are you know, kind of they've priced this perfect

824
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,880
in my opinion, because it's just enough to take to

825
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,039
tempt you to take Detroit. But in reality, in reality,

826
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,840
this is probably where Detroit is a little bit outclassed.

827
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,079
You know, last game, Rob you know, the last game

828
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,719
where they advanced to get to this point, that was

829
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,320
a home game at Callahan Hall.

830
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: They had the you know, they had the crowd behind them.

831
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: It was a Milwaukee team that was a little bit

832
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,559
banged up, and you know, that was just it was

833
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,480
just a really good spot for them probably right there.

834
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:59,480
Like I think that game was lined pretty competitively and

835
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,039
it just turned out to be like a great spot,

836
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,320
good matchup, Milwaukee, a little bit banged up, one of

837
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,440
the better crowds they've had.

838
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: There in a while.

839
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Now you go to the neutral floor and you're playing

840
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,639
what you know has has been kind of clearly it.

841
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: Wrightes State and.

842
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,159
Speaker 1: Robert Morris have kind of clearly been the two sort

843
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:19,880
of class of this league so far this year. To me,

844
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,840
when I watch these Horizon teams play, like with the

845
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,440
exception of Green Bay, who looked.

846
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: Like Wright State and Robert Morris at times.

847
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:34,119
Speaker 1: Like those two have been consistently better basketball teams than

848
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:36,360
the rest of the Horizon. Just from like the eye test.

849
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,239
I was even a little bit disappointed with Oakland this year.

850
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,519
So you know, as as much as I like what

851
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,559
Detroit has done and they've been feisty as a dog,

852
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,519
I'm kind of with you, Like I think this might

853
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,559
be cheap for Robert Morris. I've got this one closer

854
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,199
to seven. But then again, like, yeah, I think they

855
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,039
priced it great. Like if this, let's put it this way,

856
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,800
if Robert Morris was like minus four or like three

857
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,239
and a half here, I'd love that in this spot.

858
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,599
But you get to five and a half six and

859
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,079
neutral core. I think the books did a good job

860
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,199
of pricing this one in that five five and a

861
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,639
half range. But I too lean Robert Morris. If you

862
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:17,119
forced me to play this one, I would play Robert Morris,

863
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,119
but I've been more pro Detroit than most people this year,

864
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,039
so I may I may sit out because of that.

865
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:27,719
But yeah, I kind of with you on your assessment. Here,

866
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,159
all right, let me oh, we just had ope, we

867
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:42,519
just had that one. Okay, I am okay, here we go.

868
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,239
All right, we got the the super chat window.

869
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: Rob was uh.

870
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,079
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out. Oh, okay, I have

871
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,360
to I have to unstart the super chat to get

872
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,760
rid of it. All right, all right, we're rolling right along.

873
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,199
Let's go to Let's go to the coastal and well,

874
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,960
here's here's what we'll do, because we'll hit. Let's hit

875
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,320
both coastal games, because I have a feeling one of

876
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,280
these is gonna be my parlay lake, and then I'll

877
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,440
leave the last like seven minutes for you to to

878
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:12,159
do the parlay.

879
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,199
Speaker 2: So let's talk Coastal semifinals. Here, we'll hit. We'll give

880
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:18,239
you a little two for one.

881
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,519
Speaker 1: Gard says he doesn't have a play in the game,

882
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:24,159
but does Campbell Citerella run in the CIA Tourney continue

883
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:28,440
tonight and then of course semi final number two Hawstrut

884
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,039
and Towson, our top two seeds in this league are out.

885
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,360
Unc W gets bounced Charleston gets blown out yesterday, which

886
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960
I was a little surprising to me based on the matchup.

887
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,000
So dealer's choice, rob you take whatever one you want,

888
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:44,639
and I'll take.

889
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: The other one. And I won't take it because I

890
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,119
have a play on it yet, but I'll take it

891
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,360
because I wondered to myself, you know, was thousands sandbagging

892
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,679
us all season long? All of a sudden thousand is

893
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,199
the team that we kind of thought they would be,

894
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,360
or at least the way you've talked about them this

895
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,639
season long, the team that you thought they would be

896
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:10,960
in your preseason projections. It never came to fruition, But

897
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,119
it's coming to fruition here in the tournament. All of

898
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,360
a sudden thousands. Look, you know, they can make shots,

899
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,639
and if they can make shots, they're tough to beat. However,

900
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,760
Hostra looked pretty darn good too. Speedy Clapton's bunch really

901
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,480
solid yesterday. This another game, Adam, where I'm going to

902
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,320
use the same exact Well, I won't use the same

903
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,960
exact because I do like Robert Morrise that particular matchup.

904
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,480
I don't know that I like Hofstra as much in

905
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:41,960
this stylistic matchup but I'm afraid of laying four and

906
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,400
a half while I think they're the better. Here's my problem.

907
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,360
I don't know if what thousand's doing is the green

908
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
light by sign or if what thousand's doing is a

909
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,239
couple of one offs and hostra wins this game. Haster

910
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,039
has certainly been a little more consistent this season, but again,

911
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,920
the four and a half is the tricky part of

912
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:04,679
this handicap. I mean, do I take the chance that

913
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,840
what Towsand's doing right now is not as real as

914
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,119
it's been in Lay four and a half and then

915
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:13,400
find out no Thousand's playing the way they should have

916
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,760
played all season long and they win this game out right?

917
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,599
Too many questions on both sides. For me. I think

918
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,280
it's the more interesting game of the two, for sure,

919
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:26,480
simply because I don't know what to make and Towsand

920
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,719
could win this tournament and wind up in the NCAA

921
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:33,159
in March madness and who to thunk it? As we

922
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,760
roll through this season constantly criticizing, you know, the lack

923
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:44,119
of offense from thousand, Haster has been better in almost

924
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:48,360
every aspect of the game offensively and defensively than thousands

925
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,440
been this year, So I don't know. To me, Hoster

926
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:53,440
is the better team, Adam. I'm a little bit scared

927
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,159
cold feet to go ahead and lay it because I

928
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,159
don't know what to make of Twsand at this point

929
00:47:58,199 --> 00:47:58,519
in time.

930
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: All Right, so we will get to we'll do Campbell

931
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,679
mom within a second, because I do have thoughts there.

932
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:08,599
But I'm gonna use Towson plus the points for the parlay.

933
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,400
That's gonna be my parlay. Leg I talked about it yesterday.

934
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: Hastra.

935
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, Hastra's very jump shot reliant and William and

936
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,559
Mary just fails to expose that. And the thing is

937
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,840
with the way William and Mary plays like they're gonna

938
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,519
give you offense at times.

939
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: And I actually want to take back what I just

940
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,320
said Postra.

941
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 1: They they're they're jump shot reliant, but they are great

942
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:34,840
shot makers.

943
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: Okay, like that, if you look at this league, you will.

944
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Not find a better shot making team than Hastra in

945
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,679
terms of like the ability to like pull up in

946
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,360
people's face.

947
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Is Cruz Davis is the one.

948
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: That is obviously like the one the first one that

949
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:55,159
comes to mind, where like they're not always taking the

950
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:57,159
best shot rob but like they make a lot of

951
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,920
they'll make a fifteen sixteen foot or that like is

952
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,920
maybe not the best shot, but they make them consistently, consistently.

953
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,280
It's why they've been one of the top teams in

954
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,920
this league all year. That being said, they had a

955
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,199
five game losing streak earlier this year where you know,

956
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:14,840
some of those tough shots weren't falling, and so they

957
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,119
aren't invincible, right, like, they are beatable, and I think

958
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:21,199
that makes them a little bit more beatable. Towson, in

959
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,639
my opinion, is better equipped to exploit that than William

960
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:28,199
and Mary because of like Towson's ability. I think they

961
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:31,159
have a little bit more defensive ability ability than William

962
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,880
and Mary. Towson is a fantastic rebounding team, so you're

963
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,159
if you're haster, you're not gonna get as many of

964
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,440
the like rebound and maybe kick out to a shooter

965
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:42,400
type scenarios.

966
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: Because that's big for Hostra too.

967
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: How many points does Hoster score where they get a

968
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,599
board and ping it to a guy that nails the three.

969
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: It happens constantly with them.

970
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: That could Hostra thirty six point nine percent this year

971
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,639
from three point land. So you're gonna get a board

972
00:49:57,639 --> 00:49:59,880
and they and they get a board and a quick kickout.

973
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,679
It's pretty much an automatic three for them. Howson, in

974
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,480
my opinion, can limit that a little bit. And then

975
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,920
and then you've got the two best players on the floor,

976
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,159
or two of the best players on the floor, two

977
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,800
of the best players in the conference. The two guys

978
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,920
that I thought were gonna lead Howson to the winning

979
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,320
this league this year, Tyler Tahatta Dylan Williamson. They're veterans

980
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,480
and rob they wake up this morning and there's they

981
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:26,920
just steamroll Charleston out of the tournament, and there's no

982
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,800
UNC Wilmington and they've got two games keeping them from

983
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,480
the NCAA tournament. I just I love everything about the

984
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:35,960
spot for Towson. And then you look up and you're

985
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,400
catching four and a half. So that's gonna be my

986
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,559
leg of the parlay. Still a lot of four and

987
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:43,440
a half's out there, So that's what we're gonna play

988
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,960
it as towsand plus four and a half is gonna

989
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,760
be my parlay league. And before we go to yours,

990
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,679
I guess real quick for me, Campbell, Mom, that's a

991
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,880
trickier matchup. I do give a slight etched to Bambath

992
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,760
I do kind of agree with where the money's going there.

993
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,920
I like the way King Rice as his team playing defense,

994
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,079
and I just think on a neutral like for me,

995
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Monmouth is the team more likely to end up in

996
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,320
the final. I just didn't have as big as a

997
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,920
take on that one. That's why I wanted to do

998
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,039
the two games together. So here's what we'll do, Rob.

999
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,519
I'll give you the Florida add any sort of final

1000
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,920
thoughts on Campbell and Monmouth, and then you take it away.

1001
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: Tell us what your parlay's gonna be.

1002
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: Well, yesterday we discussed on the show with Kelly UNC

1003
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,920
Wilmington's just kind of I don't know what it is.

1004
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,760
The kryptonite for UNC Wilmington, which was William and Mary

1005
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,639
and Campbell this year just could not play these extreme

1006
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,119
tempo teams. Yeah they had. Campbell played them extremely tough

1007
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:49,320
both times regular season and then come out and win yesterday.

1008
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:51,800
And of course we know William and Mary had two

1009
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,119
great games against North Carolina Wilmingtons, so somewhat again, the

1010
00:51:56,159 --> 00:52:00,880
matchup kind of dictated what happened yesterday for Campbell. Does

1011
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,840
that happen against Monmouth here? I'm not sure the problem

1012
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,280
I would have with Monmouth is I do not trust

1013
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,320
them offensively. I don't trust them to be consistent offensively,

1014
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,519
and I don't know that they can control pace enough

1015
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:19,480
in this game against Campbell. So there's kind of the

1016
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,920
thought process for me, which is always the thought process

1017
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,760
with Campbell, is you look at the total and if

1018
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,440
you can't find a nage in the total, you don't

1019
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,440
play the game at all. To me, in this one,

1020
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,159
Campbell's got a legit shot at winning, but I never

1021
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:38,360
trust their defense. Can they get it into a game

1022
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,880
where they win based on their offense? Certainly they can.

1023
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,599
They showed that yesterday against a team in Wilmington that's

1024
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:49,079
better then Monmouth is. I would think that this is

1025
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,880
a pretty good If you ask Campbell give them an

1026
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,559
opponent in the semi finals, I would think Monmouth wouldn't

1027
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:59,599
be a bad choice for Campbell. Again, Monmouth just has

1028
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:02,320
the ten and see to go through those spurts where

1029
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,000
they don't score, and if they don't score at times,

1030
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,360
Campbell can certainly rack up points quickly. DJ Smith, It's

1031
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,599
hard for me to get that performance against William and

1032
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,440
Mary out of my head. First game this season, you

1033
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,320
had like thirty points in the first half or whatever.

1034
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,519
It was crazy. And when you see Campbell at their best,

1035
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,119
it's hard to not think that they could win this game.

1036
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:28,679
They've beaten Mommouth once already this year, lower scoring game

1037
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,039
sixty eight sixty five again, even against the bad Campbell defense.

1038
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,719
Monmouth didn't shoot well. That's the problem with them. So

1039
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,239
I would probably look Campbell's way in some way, shape

1040
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,599
or form, and that one haven't gotten there yet. I

1041
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,519
will comment real quick. I said that in the Georgia

1042
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:48,039
Southern Troy game, I would wait around. Let the betters

1043
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,800
do what they do with the six game in six days,

1044
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,199
fatigue factor. Let them push the total down even further,

1045
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,519
get a better number. You see, one forty eight and

1046
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,000
a half's out there now, nine yeah, one forty nine

1047
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:01,000
and a half. There was some vibe back immediately on

1048
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,320
some of them. Some venues went back to some outlets

1049
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,320
went back to one fifty. Let me go really quick here,

1050
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,239
I'm staring at the clock six minutes left to what

1051
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,840
I'm going to use for the parlay leg. I'll go

1052
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,559
to the big sky luck there. Last night with Idaho,

1053
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,760
I think I've got a pretty good read on this contest.

1054
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,760
A team that Idaho got me on. Just last week

1055
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,800
was Eastern Washington had to play on e WU the

1056
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,599
game Colton Mitchell didn't play point guard and Idaho just

1057
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,400
they made every shot. Eastern Washington did everything wrong. It

1058
00:54:33,559 --> 00:54:36,920
ruined what was a I think a seven game win

1059
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,400
streak got the time for e WU. They've been the

1060
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,840
hottest team in the league by far. Sometimes that type

1061
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,800
of loss is good for you heading into the conference tournament.

1062
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,880
I think in particular, it will probably be good for

1063
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,760
them here. They split this season series with Weaver State.

1064
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,320
But where I'm going to go with this game is

1065
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:57,079
the Eastern Washington team total up and over seventy seven

1066
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:02,639
and a half in this one. Washington has scored over

1067
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:06,280
this number in both meetings against Weaver State so far

1068
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,360
this season. Weaber State's not going to do much in

1069
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,760
the way of limiting possessions in this game. They're a

1070
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,679
little bit more up tempo, a little bit more offensive minded.

1071
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,960
There's been a lot of movement towards Eastern Washington where

1072
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,079
the spread is concerned in this game. BET up from

1073
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,880
one and a half to a lot of threes out

1074
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,639
there now. So there's some love affair for them in

1075
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,079
this game from a side perspective, but for me, team

1076
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:32,440
total just regardless of which way this game goes. And

1077
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,000
very quick as I look here, Adam, I'll say it again,

1078
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Shop shop shop seventy seven and a half. I'm now

1079
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:42,880
seeing a seventy nine and a half out there for

1080
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,039
a team total. Two point variants get the best of

1081
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:47,920
the number. I don't know what we want to choose

1082
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,559
to use here for the parlay, but full belief in

1083
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:53,360
Eastern Washington's offense against this team. They've been great the

1084
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,480
first two times around against them. To see them get

1085
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,599
to ad plus here again. One of the concerns in

1086
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:04,320
these games is your first time or your first tournament

1087
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,440
game inside the neutral gym. You know, the sightlines bug,

1088
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,559
you do, the rims bug, you et cetera, et cetera.

1089
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,559
I don't know that any of that comes into play

1090
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:17,000
here with Eastern Washington. Just because they've been so good

1091
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:20,960
at scoring and so good at putting up points during

1092
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,159
the course of this huge run to end the season,

1093
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:25,400
I think they're in a good spot here, Adam. Not

1094
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,719
going to try the game itself, even though I would

1095
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,199
lean Eastern Washington, but I do think the safer play

1096
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,639
here is to just bet them to score over seventy

1097
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:34,400
seven and a half points. If you guys out there

1098
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,639
in fairness, because there's a high of seventy nine and

1099
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:39,519
a half and a low of seventy seven and a half,

1100
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:41,840
if you want us to use seventy eight and a

1101
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,239
half for this parlay to be fair to everybody betting

1102
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,920
out there, we can go that route. If you would

1103
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,039
rather just pay the price, pay the big and go

1104
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,639
over seventy seven and a half, lay the twenty one cents,

1105
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:54,000
we can do that too.

1106
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,119
Speaker 1: We'll go seventy eight and a half for the parlay,

1107
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,920
just because I see some people say saying I mean, honestly,

1108
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,239
you should probably try to get it to seventy seven

1109
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,360
and a half. But I do see some people saying this,

1110
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,480
see seventy eight and a half. So I'll put in

1111
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,679
seventy eight and a half minus one ten and we'll

1112
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,679
go two team or for the parlay today. I have

1113
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,039
you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go against

1114
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,320
you on a big sky total rob, so I don't

1115
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,719
need to really add anything to that one. What I

1116
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,800
will add is this, if you are if you would

1117
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,199
like to attend the MAC Final in Atlantic City tomorrow.

1118
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: I will have a ticket for you.

1119
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:33,039
Speaker 3: Let me know.

1120
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,519
Speaker 1: It's nine pm. I know, Rob, you've got something going on.

1121
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,519
Try to drag you out of the house for that one.

1122
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:42,199
Speaker 3: You know my territory.

1123
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,239
Speaker 1: I know it's nine o'clock. The only rule is you

1124
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,320
have to root for Sianna. Do not show up and

1125
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,960
root for Merrimack in my face.

1126
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: That is one rule.

1127
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,119
Speaker 1: Would love obviously to meet some of you guys. Very

1128
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:56,920
easy parking at Boardwalk Hall, very easy to get in

1129
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,800
and out of. So yeah, I'll just throw it out there,

1130
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,719
shoot me a message on x Twitter or whatever we're

1131
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,400
calling it these days. But it's at worst, what a

1132
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,039
game that's gonna be. We've got one and two in

1133
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,840
that conference, a rematch. Both regular season meetings came right

1134
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,559
down to the end. So you just have to let

1135
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:20,320
me know if you want to go, and I will

1136
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,079
make that happen for you. To recap today's show, we

1137
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:27,119
got the parlay. It's a two teamer today. We got

1138
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,079
to walk before we can run, apparently on these parlays.

1139
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:31,719
So let's see if we can just hit a two

1140
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,519
team or just to get the juices flow for this week.

1141
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,760
Maybe we'll up it to a three teamer later in

1142
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,199
the week. We'll certainly be back to three teamers by

1143
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,599
the time we're back on with Kelly in Vegas this weekend.

1144
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,920
Today's two teamer I am on Towson plus four and

1145
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,440
a half. Rob is going to go with the Eastern

1146
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:52,079
Washington team total over seventy eight and a half for

1147
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:56,199
the parlay. That's your two teamer for the day. Bukari says,

1148
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:58,880
Towsand is three and a half. Now, yeah, I feel

1149
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,159
like everything we talk about on the show moves as

1150
00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:03,559
soon as we talk about it. Rob, I'm gonna put

1151
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:05,480
four and a half in the parlay, but that one

1152
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:08,760
I will attach juice on, because Bukara, you are looking

1153
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,719
at one book. There's plenty of fours as far as

1154
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:16,360
this odd screen unless it like just yeah, I mean, okay, now,

1155
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,280
you're right, there's Fially it's mostly three and a half,

1156
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,039
all right, I'll call it four, but i'll call it

1157
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,039
four minus one twenty. For the parlay, we'll call it

1158
00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:27,719
four minus one twenty. The name of the game is

1159
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,119
just getting you guys info and hopefully you shop around anyway.

1160
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:32,599
Speaker 2: So I'm good with that.

1161
00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: Tas and four minus one twenty and Eastern Washington team

1162
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,440
total over seventy eight and a half. That is your

1163
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,679
two teamer for the show. Rob and I will be

1164
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,400
back tomorrow morning, same time, same place. Have a great

1165
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,719
day everyone, We'll see you guys soon