WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.120 But they'll have pre game coverage around four to forty five, 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.440 so about forty well, I guess about forty minutes left 3 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:05.839 here before we wrap it up, and we're going to 4 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.480 use our time wisely and check in with the one 5 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.320 and only mister Ken Spencer from WHAS eleven who joins 6 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:13.359 us here on Sports Talk seven ninety Kent. 7 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:14.919 How are we doing, brother Jego? Thanksgiving? 8 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:18.519 Man, I had a great had a great Thanksgiving. Did 9 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:20.879 the smoke the turkey for the first time? 10 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:21.399 Nice? 11 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.600 And uh man, just really really pleased with how that 12 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:25.039 came out. 13 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.039 Were you going into it like worry you were going 14 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:27.559 to mess it up? 15 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:29.160 Because I feel like there's a lot of pressure, a 16 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.000 lot of lot especially if it's the first time it's Thanksgiving. 17 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:34.799 I mean I feel like I would just I wouldn't 18 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:36.000 even have the courage to try it. 19 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:41.640 Yeah, look like nobody ever says for the most part 20 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:46.679 at Thanksgiving, nobody ever says, you know what, the bird 21 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.960 is my favorite part of the meal. Very true, but 22 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.799 the bird is still the centerpiece of the meal, and 23 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:56.719 so that needs to be it needs to be right, yep. 24 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:58.039 And it just can't be back. 25 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.039 Yeah, it just can't. Just can't be bad. So I 26 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.399 went into it. Yeah, I felt a little a little 27 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:05.760 bit of pressure, but I was excited. I didn't want 28 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:10.599 a Christmas vacation situation that'll be bad where the thing 29 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.959 basically blows up. But no, it ended up turned out good. Uh. 30 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:20.560 My dad, who is over the age of seventy, he 31 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:22.519 sat at the table and he said, and and and 32 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.640 by the way, and I've said this to somebody, it's 33 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:29.200 he's the most honest person that I know. He has 34 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:31.359 looked at He looked at my mother and I one 35 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.000 time after Christmas and he goes, be honest, was this 36 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.159 year all's best effort? 37 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.920 So he wasn't joking that's great. No, that's actually really good. 38 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.040 That that's that's straight out of the movie is But 39 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:44.480 that is. 40 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.400 One hundred percent. He's the guy. He's the dad that 41 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:51.200 after like a sporting event or an athletic event that 42 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.319 I was in, even like it when I did really, 43 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.040 really well, he was the guy waiting on, so why 44 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:59.840 didn't you do this? What happened? What happened there? So 45 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.920 he looked at me after he had it and he said, son, 46 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:05.799 he goes, that's the best turkey I've ever had. 47 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.759 Oh, that's something you'll remember forever, not only the pressure 48 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.439 of delivering on Thanksgiving, but making the old man proud. 49 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.879 It doesn't get much better than that. I'm getting getting 50 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:16.039 emotional here. That's awesome. And I'm also if my wife's 51 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:17.439 not listening, which I don't think she is, she's not 52 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:18.960 off work yet, I'm going to steal that line for 53 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:22.319 Christmas morning because that is I mean, that is well done. 54 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:24.120 I'll have to tell her I'm joking pretty quickly before 55 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:25.879 she hits me. But that's good stuff. 56 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.879 By the way, it wasn't our best effort that. 57 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.680 Year, and you got better from it. That's just somebody 58 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.439 just trying to you know, continuous improvement, just letting you know, hey, 59 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.560 you could do better. And you know when your dad 60 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.400 challenges you and your mother too, then you know, hey, 61 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:41.360 he's being honest and. 62 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.159 We can do better. So good stuff. 63 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.439 Glad to hear you guys had a good Thanksgiving. I'll 64 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.960 just jump right in here with Louisville basketball. What do 65 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:51.240 you think makes the most sense for Pat Kelsey moving forward? 66 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:55.240 I don't know if there is a simple, something something 67 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.400 simple that you can implement to try to, you know, 68 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.639 disguise and make up for what you're losing without having 69 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:02.960 case in pryor you haven't had Corn Johnson for a while, 70 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:04.360 but still knowing he's not coming. 71 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.560 Back at all. Trey Ouray's out as well. 72 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.159 I mean, the injuries have really started to pile up 73 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.960 for Pat Kelsey to wear. I think what he wants 74 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:13.479 to do makes sense as far as how the roster 75 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:14.840 was built, but I think it's gonna be really tough 76 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.400 to do it more than anything, just because you don't 77 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:17.960 have the depth, and depth was going to be a 78 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:19.840 big piece to how you can get into what you 79 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.120 wanted to do. After watching what happened on Tuesday night 80 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:24.840 against a really good Old Miss team and they couldn't 81 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.680 buy a bucket, I wouldn't be shocked if he's trying 82 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.680 to maybe not reinvent himself and become a totally different team, 83 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.840 but maybe trying to find something they can do to 84 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:35.840 generate better looks than what they're getting right now. Just 85 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.120 I guess your thoughts on Louisville hoops moving forward. I 86 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.560 still think they could be competitive, but man, it's hard 87 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.400 to not notice just how thin they are. 88 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.560 Yeah, I think the one thing that maybe stands out 89 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:52.759 to me and you saw it predominantly maybe in the 90 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.879 second half against Old Miss, and you know, it's like 91 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.599 what buttons can you push? You know, especially without a 92 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.800 case in prior, it's not like you can change up 93 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.280 and say like, Okay, we're just gonna go and we're 94 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:08.680 gonna live in the paint, We're gonna live in the post, 95 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.039 because you don't have anybody really like that, and so 96 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.719 you you almost got to continue with the same playing style. 97 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.519 But I would almost like try and And the bad 98 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:21.519 part about it is is you have Duke coming up, 99 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.040 you have Kentucky coming up, like you have tough games 100 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.720 coming up. But I would almost try to unlock Canai Rus. 101 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.279 I'm with you. I think he's a I think he's 102 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.519 a freshman and he I think he has tons of 103 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.879 upside what I like about him and I and I 104 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.079 think I've seen it and you know, really like the 105 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.639 last couple of games, he's got some grit to him, 106 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.720 or it appears that he's got some grit to me. 107 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:46.759 He's got some energy about him that's a little different. 108 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.519 I mean, he's not casing with the energy, but he 109 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.560 could be somebody that if he's playing well, he could 110 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.600 bring some some juice. That is clearly not there with 111 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:54.439 casin out. 112 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.920 Yeah, and and so like I like, I like him 113 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:59.839 and that, and I think you have to just try 114 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:03.000 to you know, what these injuries have done, in my 115 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.680 mind is it's just forced you to hit the fast 116 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:07.319 forward button on his development. 117 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:07.680 Yep. 118 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.600 And so I think for them, that's what they that's 119 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.920 what they have to do, because even when Cason Pryor 120 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.399 was was in there, and obviously he wasn't in there 121 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:23.000 against Old Miss. The thing that has really bothered this team. 122 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.480 And like it's not like it's just this team. I 123 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.319 mean we've seen it against you know, with other teams 124 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.600 as well, but those teams that are really physical and 125 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.920 get in your face. I think it's really bothered this offense. 126 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:39.879 And that was. 127 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.279 Tennessee to a t. That was Oklahoma in the Battle 128 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.360 for Atlantis Championship game, and obviously that's a that's a 129 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.439 team like Old Miss, and so you know they're not 130 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.240 they're just not getting those open shots and when they're 131 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.720 and when they're uncomfortable. I just don't like the way 132 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.079 that it's flowing right now. And that's the biggest thing 133 00:05:58.279 --> 00:05:59.160 I think that they have. 134 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:00.879 To correct, no doubt about it. 135 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.000 Two really good coaches Rick Barnes and Chris Beard, but 136 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.519 also the way they coach in their style sort of 137 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.480 their DNA. It may be the worst possible matchup for 138 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.720 what Pat Kelsey wants to do, especially when you're short 139 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.560 handed like they were the other night. So you're right, 140 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:16.720 no flow, I mean, the flow is just not really there. 141 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.920 And it was nice to see against West Virginia whenever 142 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:22.079 it wasn't played at such a fast pace like the 143 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:23.839 Indiana game, they were able to kind of settle in. 144 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:25.560 And you know, Caseon Pryor is a guy in the 145 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.639 half court where he takes a lot of threes and 146 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.240 he doesn't make him a lot, but he's also just 147 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.240 a he's a tough matchups. He's a long, athletic guy. 148 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.000 They can you know, I don't know if he's great 149 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.000 at one thing, but he's pretty good at a lot 150 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:36.399 of things. 151 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.879 And I was really surprised. I should have been a little. 152 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.319 Bit more aware of him bringing more than what is 153 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.279 just on the stat sheet. He's a guy that they 154 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.920 clearly rely on a lot for energy, leadership. He's got 155 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:48.399 a lot of confidence about him, and I'm with you, 156 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.959 I think can I rus despite being a freshman, if 157 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.480 he could get going, he could get some confidence, he 158 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.800 could he could help a little bit, maybe maybe more 159 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.040 than just a little bit when it comes to those 160 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.879 kind of things. What do you make of Terrence Edwards. 161 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.879 I think he he's a good player and that has 162 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.160 been proven it at James Madison, despite that not being 163 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.519 this level of basketball. But I think he could have 164 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.680 been a nice complimentary piece to your system. But I 165 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:10.480 feel like now that you're short handed, you're not getting 166 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.600 Cora and Johnson back. I don't know if you're gonna, 167 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.480 you know, make a whole lot of changes to what 168 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.120 you're doing. But I feel like he's the He's one 169 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.000 of the guys that you could look at and say, Okay, 170 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:21.720 we we could get something out of this if we 171 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.000 make some adjustments, if we have a very age you know, 172 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.079 we've if we deviate a little bit from what we 173 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.040 typically want to do. But he's just really has not 174 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.560 got it going. There's some games where his numbers are 175 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.279 are decent, but you know, you mentioned comfortable. I just 176 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:34.920 feel like he's the one guy that I don't really know, 177 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.199 of any point this year in the regular season, he's 178 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.360 been comfortable at all. 179 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.399 I think sometimes when you get especially in this in 180 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:48.480 this transfer portal world, and Pat Kelsey's really big about 181 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:53.360 trying to point out like the back of somebody's bubblecup cards. Right. Yeah, 182 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:58.800 Terrence Edwards obviously produced you know, really really nice numbers 183 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.079 at James Madison, but that was in a different style 184 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.319 than what they're playing now, So I think it there 185 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.160 has to be a little give and take. So I 186 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:10.160 think early in the season it's it's Terrence Edwards trying 187 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.879 to fit into Pat Kelsey's style, and I don't think 188 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.199 that's necessarily really worked for Terrence Edwards. I don't think 189 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:19.920 he you know, you just mentioned it, like he just 190 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.839 doesn't look comfortable in that there at all. I think 191 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.000 it may be time, especially with these injuries, it may 192 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.600 be time to like try to meld those two things 193 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.679 together to try to maximize what Terrence Edwards Junior is. 194 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.159 And so it's not just Edwards just trying to fit 195 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.600 into this style. It's like, Okay, what do we need 196 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.679 to do to make sure you're comfortable and that you 197 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:45.039 can get we can get you in some into some 198 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.480 of your spots ye that you really like, instead of 199 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.879 you just trying to force the issue because that's not 200 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.559 working and I think that there has to be maybe 201 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:57.000 a little bit of give and take there going forward 202 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.879 for for Louiselle to have the kind of success that 203 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:00.799 would like to help. 204 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:02.759 I don't think you could have said it better as 205 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.039 far as realizing, Okay, we can't be so much dependent 206 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.840 upon Hey, this is what we're doing, and everybody just 207 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.399 play the role. Now, I think you have to look 208 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.799 at guys individually and realize you're so shorthanded. If there's 209 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.159 something there that maybe wouldn't come out in what we 210 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.279 want to do. As far as our style, we could 211 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.159 make some adjustments to where just try to because I 212 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:22.919 still think you're you know, you're thin, and I don't 213 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:24.600 know what the ceiling is for this team. It's certainly 214 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.519 not as high as it was before case In Pryor 215 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.960 got hurt. But I still think there's some some good players. 216 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.080 You just got to you know, Pat Kelsey's learning about 217 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.519 these guys. He hasn't coached them until this season, and 218 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.720 now he's probably gonna have to do things in a 219 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.080 way he wasn't planning on because the injuries, and of 220 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:40.679 course that's not something you can you can prepare for. 221 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.200 Now on the Kentucky side, sticking with hoops, Mark Pope 222 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.919 suffers his first loss on the road at Clemson, a 223 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.480 close game I saw some similarities with with Clemson as 224 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:51.559 far as you know, trying to slow it down, not 225 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:55.080 give Pope in Kentucky as many possessions as they want, 226 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.080 really just be physical. And you know, it worked out. 227 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.320 Kentucky could have easily won that game. But just I 228 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.000 guess your observations after seeing for the first time this team, 229 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.440 you know, play well in stretches, but really not you know, 230 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.120 just not not not going to win for the first time. 231 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.679 You know, I think that game, honestly, Nick, comes down 232 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.200 to the first half. You know, they go into the 233 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.919 locker room. I think, if I remember correctly, I believe 234 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.440 Clemson was up seven going into the locker room in 235 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.039 that but they were I think they were out rebounding 236 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.919 Kentucky by like twenty year or something, you know what 237 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.799 I mean, Like the number was like unbelievable, just how 238 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:29.960 much Clemson was dominating the glass in that game. But 239 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.000 Mark Pope as a head coach has never been in 240 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:39.720 that situation before, and outside of Kerkkrisa, there's nobody on 241 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:44.279 that roster that's been in that situation. Before you're ranked 242 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:48.559 fourth in the country. You're going into another Power five 243 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.759 opponent's house with a good record, made a good run 244 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.320 in the NCAA Tournament last year, obviously a lot a 245 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.919 lot of new pieces. None of those guys on that 246 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.120 roster has ever been in that situation before, where you 247 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:04.639 are even in a Power five house, you are massively hunted. 248 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:08.440 And I don't think that anybody on that roster other 249 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.799 than Kirkkriesa when he was at Arizona, has had that 250 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.360 kind of a target on their back. Now, Mark Pope 251 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:15.919 did when he was a player, but not as a 252 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:19.639 head coach. Like, I just feel like they had to 253 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.960 like learn in that moment, and they did and they 254 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:22.440 took an ol. 255 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.960 Yeah, it's like, look and that'll be good for him. 256 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.320 Honestly different Now, Yeah, I mean I think that's in 257 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.360 a way. I mean, you don't want to lose, but 258 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.519 I think not only knowing that, you know, you were 259 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.080 the hunted and they stormed the court. I mean, that 260 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:37.720 has nothing to do with the game. But I feel 261 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:40.399 like these that's part of the experience for these players 262 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.200 to where they you know, I'm sure they realize they're 263 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.039 at Kentucky. It's one of the best programs in the 264 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:46.279 history of the sport. It's much different than anywhere these 265 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.320 guys have been. But I feel like the court storming 266 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.759 is a small element to where they have to realize, Okay, 267 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.679 there's a responsibility here, like we were a big deal 268 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.320 if they beat us. So let's I mean not to 269 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:57.279 say that they'll get better from it, but I feel 270 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.600 like that is an added layer to them kind of 271 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:00.679 realize sing where they are. 272 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:02.759 That makes sense, Yeah. 273 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.679 It's all part of the process. It's all part of 274 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.879 that learning process. Like, look, you know, you're not at 275 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.840 certain places anymore, you know, like you're you are at 276 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.080 Kentucky when you go into the gym, they do look 277 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.840 at that differently. And it's not just being at Kentucky. 278 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.279 You know, like the number four to the left of 279 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.440 their name going into that game, like for Clemson or 280 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.799 for anybody else in that spot, like that's a big deal, 281 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.840 like you want to get that win, and so you 282 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.039 know they're they're they're coming at you a little bit different. 283 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.879 And you know when Jackson Robinson, you know, yeah he 284 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:35.799 had a number next to his name, but it was 285 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.000 never that high, you know what I mean, Like at 286 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.679 BYU last year. So none of those guys have had 287 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.120 to try to experience that, you know, and so Amari 288 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.200 Williams he's never had to experience that. You know, he 289 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.840 has he has now and you got to know, hey, 290 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.759 whatever the mind was, because in that first half, you know, 291 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.440 for for a large part of that, I think Clemson 292 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.360 just kind of out worked them, beat them in all 293 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.559 the fifty fifth balls and on the glass and stuff 294 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.679 like that. And like you know, on a night when 295 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:08.240 your shots aren't going down, which they really weren't, you've 296 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.639 got to do all the little things and Clemson was 297 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.840 doing the little things better than Kentucky was, which is 298 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.440 the reason why Clems had got to win that night. 299 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.240 Kids Been Sir of WHS eleven is our guest joining 300 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.240 us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We'll switch gears 301 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.559 here to football and keep it on the Kentucky side 302 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.720 just because of the developing news in the portal. 303 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:26.720 Not a big shock to see guys. 304 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.840 Wanting to move on really under any circumstance, because that's 305 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:29.440 just where we are. 306 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:31.480 But dan Keye a local product. 307 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.120 His father played at Kentucky and he's been a very 308 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.960 good receiver for them, but he's decided to leave that 309 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.840 was announced yesterday. Now Barry and Brown and obviously some 310 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.519 of these guys that are transferring. It sounds like maybe 311 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.519 not only was not a shock to the staff, but 312 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:46.120 maybe they weren't bummed to see them leave. 313 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.360 But still, when you were. 314 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.240 Coming off such a tough season and it ended as 315 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.639 badly as it did, you know, it's expected for fans 316 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:55.399 to kind of see this is just another sign that 317 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:59.360 the sky is falling. What's the best case scenario here 318 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.440 for Mark Stupid heading into next year? Because I really 319 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:04.919 you know, maybe he does go out on the portal 320 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:06.799 and they kill it. He claimed that they have resources 321 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:08.399 in a good spot, maybe better than they ever have. 322 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.320 But I feel like the momentum for Mark stoops to 323 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.480 Kentucky is at a low that I really didn't know possible. 324 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:20.360 Yeah, and when it comes to when they say they 325 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.600 have way better resources and they're better served now than 326 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.480 what they were in the past, proof will be in 327 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.559 the pudding on that because remember was it a year ago? 328 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.519 Was it a year and a half ago with a 329 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.039 pony up comment that he made? 330 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.360 Yeah, last season like that didn't work out well for him. 331 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.080 It haunts him, know it went that went. 332 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.840 Horrible so you know that he's not going to say 333 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.679 that again, and so like, what was he going to say, 334 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.360 you know, when he was asked about that. Of course 335 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.120 he's going to say, yeah, no, it's it's everything's great, 336 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:56.320 you know. It's like, so I would imagine that here's 337 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.120 what I would say about this, you know, And this 338 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:02.279 is more of like an indicator of, in my opinion, 339 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.080 what this really looked like within that program in the 340 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:09.639 last couple weeks of the season generally at this point, 341 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.840 and you've seen it at Louisville, right, Like, the players 342 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.679 that are in the portal or announcing their portal are 343 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:20.399 players that were seldom used during the season, and when 344 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.440 you're seldom used, then you can really think about your future. 345 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.399 The Kentucky players that are in the portal are there 346 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.559 two starting wide receivers and a few other guys. But 347 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.919 let's just circle into the wide receivers. They just played 348 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.200 a game on Saturday. They're already making decisions on the 349 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.720 portal this week. Now, Man, you know that these things 350 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.360 were already in the in the works way before that, 351 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.679 which lets me know that it's the same thing I 352 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.639 think everybody kind of thought, like these kids in that 353 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.519 UK locker room. Were just ready for this season to 354 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:55.919 be over. 355 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.559 Yeah, I mean that's I think they've played. 356 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:02.200 I think they came out against Louisville, and Louisville again 357 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.360 deserves credit for, you know, coming ready to play and 358 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.840 taking advantage of mistakes. But I don't think it's crazy 359 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:09.440 to say that the Kentucky played their worst game of 360 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:10.840 the season and it might not have been closed And 361 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:12.879 I'm not clearly I'm not taking anything away from Louisville, 362 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.200 but I don't mean they were so checked out in 363 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.919 a game that usually, even if they aren't great or good, 364 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.639 even they typically come ready to play. It just seems 365 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:23.720 as if things are in a bad way, and You're right, 366 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:25.840 the timing of that makes it seem as if these 367 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.399 guys have probably been ready for the season to be 368 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.519 over for a long time. 369 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:29.759 Now. 370 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.440 What did you make of the Vince Marrow to Louisville stuff. 371 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.320 I mean, I have no inside information at all. I 372 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.039 just have a hard time seeing that there was ever 373 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:43.679 really any legitimacy to him, you know, pondering should I 374 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.159 stay at Kentucky or should I. 375 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:45.879 Go to Louisville. 376 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.159 Louisville wouldn't be able to and would be foolish to 377 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.639 pay him one point three million dollars like he makes 378 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:52.799 a Kentucky clearly a really good recruiter. But I just 379 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.080 I don't know if that was all made up. I 380 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.320 don't know if that was some kind of an attempt 381 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.000 to make people appreciate him. 382 00:16:59.120 --> 00:16:59.519 I don't know. 383 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.960 I just it became a big deal on Sunday, and 384 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:03.879 so much so that he, you know, did come on 385 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.960 our airwaves here on on on seven ninety with KSR 386 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.759 and and and said that it's not happening. But like, 387 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.000 I just I didn't look at that as a oh, 388 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:12.640 at least we're not losing the big dog. 389 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.279 I looked at that as like, what, this is just weird. 390 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:16.960 This is another sign that things are just off. 391 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.160 Yeah, here's here's what I think you said. 392 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.160 You said like you knew something of it. You're going 393 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:25.680 to be careful what you say. That's what you said, 394 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:27.279 Ken that that's just how I'm reading it. 395 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.640 Well, let me just say this, I don't I don't 396 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:32.000 think any part of that was real. 397 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.200 Yeah, I mean either and because it doesn't make any 398 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:35.160 sense on either side. 399 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:39.359 I mean just from what I know, Like, I don't 400 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.319 think any anything there was real. 401 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.240