Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen? Something? Hey, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Cult Rejects with your.
Speaker 2: Host luck and then why Patriot.
Speaker 1: And we just wanted to say welcome back all of
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Speaker 1: we're here. And today we're going to be covering more
Speaker 1: of what we touched on last week in the first
Speaker 1: episode episode for what is called the Gateway Experiment experience,
Speaker 1: and so just to give a brief summary of sort
Speaker 1: of where we are up to this point, we touched
Speaker 1: on slightly MK Ultra, which was a government project that
Speaker 1: delved into mind control that was funded by the CIA.
Speaker 1: They had one hundred and forty two sub projects and
Speaker 1: they were really trying to sort of figure out the
Speaker 1: human mind. And around that same time, well there's a
Speaker 1: doctor's name was Robert Monroe, and he was doing sort
Speaker 1: of these experience experiments with different tones, different frequencies, and
Speaker 1: he thought that he was really onto something big, and
Speaker 1: he actually was. I think that you said New York
Speaker 1: Patriot that he was owner of a broadcast station, right, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of them. He was actually well known for that, right,
Speaker 2: So he had a lot of questions. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like you know somebody who's into like, you know, you're
Speaker 2: making things weird things happen to people just on sounds.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, and that dudes involved
Speaker 2: in broadcasting, I feel like the.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, I had some really similar thoughts and
Speaker 1: exactly the same time that the CIA is doing MK
Speaker 1: ultra experiments. Now, in the mk ultra experiments, they were
Speaker 1: subjecting people to long term tones. So they would put
Speaker 1: people to sleep for three four days subject to them
Speaker 1: to certain tones. But what they would also do is
Speaker 1: they would subject them to repetitious phrases and they called
Speaker 1: this mental driving. So for let's say four days straight,
Speaker 1: you would listen to a tape while you were asleep
Speaker 1: and usually really drugged out, and on this tape that
Speaker 1: was plugged into your ears, it would say something like you.
Speaker 1: One example, specifically, is one of the participants was told
Speaker 1: you killed your mother, You killed your mother, you killed
Speaker 1: your mother? He listened to this for days and days
Speaker 1: on end. The longest time that they kept someone asleep
Speaker 1: doing the mental driving I believe with seventy two days, right,
Speaker 1: so this seventy to now. The doctors that were behind
Speaker 1: the mk Ulter experiments. The doctors believed that if you
Speaker 1: could mentally drive someone for so long that you could
Speaker 1: literally change thought patterns, that you could change the way
Speaker 1: that someone behaved. And so that was some of the
Speaker 1: experiments that they were doing in MK Ultra. And then
Speaker 1: right alongside of it, you in no way talking negatively
Speaker 1: about Robert Monroe. I just do think that it's suspicious.
Speaker 1: The same time, Monroe begins to develop the Gateway Experience,
Speaker 1: which it uses very similar techniques. And I've always hypothesized wondered,
Speaker 1: maybe if Gateway, the Gateway experience as we know it,
Speaker 1: if it came out of the mk Ultra experiments, because
Speaker 1: you're being subjected to repetitious phrases and to various tones,
Speaker 1: and Monroe believed that it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like old school techno music. Actually, yeah, the same
Speaker 2: sample over and over and again with being a couple
Speaker 2: of tones.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, Monroe is developing this
Speaker 1: technique where you know, you are basically self hypnotizing yourself,
Speaker 1: and that you can do this to change certain thought
Speaker 1: patterns or to change certain behavior. And he also believed
Speaker 1: that you could astrally project out of the body once
Speaker 1: you had really sort of mastered this technique that he
Speaker 1: called hemi sync, which was bringing the left side of
Speaker 1: the brain and the right side of the brain in
Speaker 1: in harmony or hemi sync, two hemispheres of the brain
Speaker 1: sinking together to create sort of like you know, the
Speaker 1: unified mind. And he believed that once this said has happened,
Speaker 1: that you could, you know, astually project, that you could
Speaker 1: really start to do some interesting stuff. And at this point,
Speaker 1: I would definitely say that the mk ultary experiments and
Speaker 1: the Gateway process, the Gateway experienced by Monroe, are two
Speaker 1: different things, but it is interesting they were around at
Speaker 1: the exact same time, and because of the experiments that
Speaker 1: Monroe was doing, the CIA got wind of it and
Speaker 1: they decided to do a analysis of the Gateway experience,
Speaker 1: in which they had people delve into the papers and
Speaker 1: the recordings and the process of Gateway in order to
Speaker 1: see if it was real and if it was valid.
Speaker 1: And that document became declassified I believe in two thousand
Speaker 1: and three. So it is literally the CIA investigating astral
Speaker 1: projection remote viewing able to leave your body and see
Speaker 1: different times, places through time and space, and for them
Speaker 1: that was a really, really valuable tool, so they wanted
Speaker 1: to see if it was real, and that sort of
Speaker 1: we left off last week. We got through some of
Speaker 1: the document that I was just talking about the CIA analysis,
Speaker 1: So now we're going to continue with sort of part two.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, one thing I did want to just go
Speaker 2: over real quick that it was a it's like it
Speaker 2: was originally on tapes that you would you know, you
Speaker 2: could do even do this on your own and at home,
Speaker 2: and I don't think we really went into that in
Speaker 2: the first one. That it's just basically guided meditations of
Speaker 2: tapes with different tones, and it is supposed to basically
Speaker 2: sink up like like look said, sync up, you know,
Speaker 2: both the sides of the brain. And basically from what
Speaker 2: I got of going through the manual, the way that
Speaker 2: it works through these tones and stuff is that you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to lower the it's almost like
Speaker 2: lowering the volume of your heart rate of how loud
Speaker 2: it's it's you know, pumping and then even lowering the
Speaker 2: vibrational rate of your brain down to the vibrational rate
Speaker 2: of the earth. And then once you do that, it's
Speaker 2: basically that's when all the magic tends to happen, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that was just something I don't think we
Speaker 2: touched upon in the first one. I would like to
Speaker 2: at least get of, like, you know, what's the theory
Speaker 2: behind of like you know how this works? You know
Speaker 2: that's that's basically what I got out of reading it
Speaker 2: and listening to the first two tapes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really started out with the sleep learning stuff.
Speaker 1: It's kind of how he got started, right, which was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, being exposed to you know, tones and phrases
Speaker 1: or different you know, like vibration via turn as uses.
Speaker 2: A lot of bineural how do you say that again?
Speaker 1: That bineurial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it uses a lot of those in it too,
Speaker 2: because it says that the difference between the left and
Speaker 2: the right side, like if one was like, you know,
Speaker 2: fifty hurts and the other one was like one hundred,
Speaker 2: then it would actually your brain will produce the seventy
Speaker 2: five an actual rate that wasn't and then that's you know,
Speaker 2: that helps make a connection between both sides of.
Speaker 1: The brain too, right, and yeah, and he believed that
Speaker 1: there's certain tones would essentially shut down the left side
Speaker 1: of the brain and allow more information to go directly
Speaker 1: into the right side of the brain, because the left
Speaker 1: side of the brain is what filters all information that
Speaker 1: goes to the subconscious. So, yeah, he started doing you know,
Speaker 1: the sleep learning stuff. He wrote a book in seventy
Speaker 1: one which was Journey out of the Body. So while
Speaker 1: doing his experiments, while doing you know, the sleep learning
Speaker 1: and Monroe method, he actually had an out of body experience.
Speaker 2: I think they they claimed that he might be the
Speaker 2: one who coined that phrase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then shortly after he started his own
Speaker 1: institute just for that study for out of body experience,
Speaker 1: for remote viewing, for sleep learning. He believed there were
Speaker 1: a lot of benefits to it, so he started his
Speaker 1: own institute and it still exists today. You can actually
Speaker 1: go to Virginia and take some of the Gateway Experience
Speaker 1: classes if you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but it looks like a round that nice professional,
Speaker 2: fancy website too.
Speaker 1: It does New York pature and I have a vacation plans.
Speaker 2: For the first week. Yeah, nothing including.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring your own food buyod and it definitely definitely works.
Speaker 1: Just one thing to point out real quick, I did
Speaker 1: that reference where you know, one of the MK Ultra
Speaker 1: participants was told that he killed his mother. When he
Speaker 1: was released from the program, he went home and saw
Speaker 1: his mother, and he had believed that she was dead.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how effective, you know, the sleep learning
Speaker 1: or the mental driving can be, you know, because you're
Speaker 1: entering information right into the subconscious, into the right hand
Speaker 1: side of It took him forever to realize because mother
Speaker 1: was not actually dead. I mean that I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about a day. I'm talking about months of intensive psychiatric treatment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could take longer sometimes to undo something like
Speaker 2: that than it did to make you believe it, right.
Speaker 1: Sure, so it's effective then of course, you know, the
Speaker 1: United States government, if they can use that for something
Speaker 1: more effective in their in their terms, then of course
Speaker 1: they're going to use it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the benefit of being able to
Speaker 1: convince someone of something, or to think the brain or
Speaker 1: you know, to actually travel or get out of the body,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, all of those things were really
Speaker 1: interesting to them, and they went on to use a
Speaker 1: lot of the methods that gateway to points and this
Speaker 1: is this is sort of where we get into the
Speaker 1: really weird stuff. This is where we get into you know,
Speaker 1: the real kit and kaboodle here, because they you know,
Speaker 1: they released this document in two thousand and three of
Speaker 1: their analysis of Gateway, and they had to prove that
Speaker 1: it was either totally false or that it was real.
Speaker 1: And I mean this went all the way up to
Speaker 1: the commander of the US Army Operational Group at Fort Meade.
Speaker 2: So this was.
Speaker 1: This was not a small project, and it was the
Speaker 1: analysis of the Gateway experience or a Monroe Institute experience.
Speaker 1: I was a guy named Wayne m McDonald and he
Speaker 1: was the commander there, and he writes a very lengthy
Speaker 1: analysis of the of the experience of what they found
Speaker 1: out during the study. And we talked a little bit
Speaker 1: last week about how they were able to scientifically prove
Speaker 1: that the Gateway experience itself, so that they use the
Speaker 1: tones can actually slow down your brain and your heart
Speaker 1: to exactly like what New York Patriot was saying, that
Speaker 1: they can do it whenever they want, just by using
Speaker 1: this certain tone a certain method. And so they were
Speaker 1: able to figure out sort of where they could go
Speaker 1: with this next because they knew that they could sink
Speaker 1: the brain, which would eventually lead to the astral travel
Speaker 1: and lead to remote viewing and things like that. So
Speaker 1: they were able to scientifically prove that works with the
Speaker 1: brain and the heart. And they go into a very
Speaker 1: detailed analysis of how that works and literally opens up
Speaker 1: a different ventricle and the heart and the brain and
Speaker 1: it sends blood into a different pattern and to a
Speaker 1: different vibratory state.
Speaker 2: They really explain it very scientific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the vibration actually changes at a measurable at a
Speaker 1: measurable rate. And the next part of the analysis is
Speaker 1: where they describe how and why it works. And the
Speaker 1: first thing that Okay, so this is not me saying this,
Speaker 1: This is the CIA. They are saying in this document
Speaker 1: that the reason why Gateway works is because energy, consciousness,
Speaker 1: and the universe are way different than what the public
Speaker 1: is Tolds.
Speaker 2: Says that, and it comes out and says the matter
Speaker 2: isn't even solid technically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess that's a good place that we
Speaker 1: can pick up. They definitely say one page seven, you know,
Speaker 1: bullet point eleven, they describe how the you know, the
Speaker 1: fluid and the field, but vibration of a molecule composed
Speaker 1: a number of atoms bound together in a singular energy field,
Speaker 1: vibrates at the range of ten to the nine hertz
Speaker 1: of the human cell is also vibrating at ten to
Speaker 1: the third hertz. And so you know, they give a
Speaker 1: very detailed explanation of atoms, molecules, electrons, and essentially that
Speaker 1: they are all vibration and that it's not an actual solid.
Speaker 1: And then the next thing that they go into, which
Speaker 1: is blue point twelve, I think is fascinating and this
Speaker 1: might be some of the most occulted information that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I wanted to bring up real
Speaker 2: quick because it was right I was looking at the
Speaker 2: same thing you were, and I had a sentence highlighted
Speaker 2: prior to what you were just talking about something I
Speaker 2: did want to bring up that It says, in addition,
Speaker 2: by resonating with the Earth's electromatics sphere, the human body
Speaker 2: creates a surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind
Speaker 2: in communication activity with other human minds similarly similar similarly tuned,
Speaker 2: so like it's even saying that you can I guess
Speaker 2: contact other people too through this that are that are
Speaker 2: doing the same thing or on the same way. I think,
Speaker 2: I guess as you're vibrating it. Yeah, and I found
Speaker 2: that to be very interesting that they even say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, they really kind of spilled the beans
Speaker 1: on a lot of stuff in here. And you know,
Speaker 1: I would encourage every one of our listeners. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll put the link in the description to this analysis,
Speaker 1: or we'll have to get it off, get the CIA website,
Speaker 1: you know, simple download, and you guys got to read this.
Speaker 1: This is, uh, this is a scientific explanation of how
Speaker 1: the occult works and why it works because you know,
Speaker 1: the occult systems that have been used by magicians, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: for you generations, those methods you see here in this document.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: A point written down that I was going to go over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the same exact practices that you would do if you
Speaker 2: were a ceremonial magician or you know, into ritual magic.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are just basic things that anybody would
Speaker 2: tell you to do. It's pretty yeah, holy shit, like
Speaker 2: this is stuff that I practiced doing, same thing.
Speaker 1: Right, and ritual magic. Ceremonial magic relies so much on color,
Speaker 1: vibration and symbolism, and you know, during ritual magic, you're
Speaker 1: performing certain actions with your hands, but you're also manipulating
Speaker 1: your voice to create a certain tone. And when I
Speaker 1: was in the goldens On, I was told that the
Speaker 1: tourne is more important than the movement. So getting the
Speaker 1: tourne is what's what's most important. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: when I listened to some of the Hemi Sink tapes,
Speaker 1: the same tourn that I was producing during certain rich
Speaker 1: was the same turn. Do you notice that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did notice that.
Speaker 1: Actually it's the same time that you that we hear
Speaker 1: on Gateway tapes.
Speaker 2: Well you know what I would also, well, that's right.
Speaker 2: You listened to the first one, right, and it's it's
Speaker 2: on there too. The second one goes into it a
Speaker 2: little bit more. I've only listened to the second tape
Speaker 2: that you know, when it's having you breathe out the
Speaker 2: negative or like you know, the used are you know,
Speaker 2: the yeah you're supposed to be. That's just almost like
Speaker 2: the same thing as when you're supposed to be you know,
Speaker 2: when you're doing ceremonial magic, specific rituals, you're supposed to
Speaker 2: like you know, charge the four directions and you would
Speaker 2: vibrate you know, a specific god name or word. It
Speaker 2: was almost the same exact thing. It's just making you
Speaker 2: vibrate a sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So it's like this document right here is legitimate,
Speaker 1: legitimizing magic. This is giving an actual scientific explanation for
Speaker 1: what the magic works. I mean, yeah, especially during that
Speaker 1: breathing exercise that you do, and I think it's the
Speaker 1: first or second gateway experienced. Tape is like New York
Speaker 1: Patriot was saying, You're you're told to breathe in fresh,
Speaker 1: new energy and then to bring all of that energy
Speaker 1: up into your head and then to release old and
Speaker 1: stale energy is what the tape says.
Speaker 2: And then you're supposed to hum along with it. Also.
Speaker 2: But even that one thing right there that you were saying,
Speaker 2: huge people do that all the time in magic as
Speaker 2: a basic as a basic.
Speaker 1: Exercise, right And in this document we also learned that
Speaker 1: color is you know, it's based on its vibratory wavelength.
Speaker 1: So you know, pink and green and blue literally represent
Speaker 1: an actual frequency. It's not just all well you know
Speaker 1: it's in the occult. Well you know, pink is you know,
Speaker 1: related to the feminine, because the feminine is you know,
Speaker 1: really it's there is that occult explaining, but there is
Speaker 1: also a very scientific explanation for why it works because
Speaker 1: it's an actual vibratory term.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Even it was like one of the things I
Speaker 2: had down with like like you were saying with like
Speaker 2: colors too, like even you know in here it tells
Speaker 2: you to be able to picture certain colors. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of basic practices that I did when I
Speaker 2: first got into this stuff that was like, you know,
Speaker 2: picture a red triangle and hold it as long as
Speaker 2: you can. Uh. There was one where it's like I
Speaker 2: was supposed to have my body split up into three
Speaker 2: and you know, down a left side would be a
Speaker 2: specific color, then up the middle would be like white,
Speaker 2: and then the right side would be red, and it's
Speaker 2: like you're supposed to picture each of those things going up.
Speaker 2: That was all like those are all very well known
Speaker 2: practices to do. I mean, liber E written by Crowley
Speaker 2: is all on focusing on breathing, focusing on posture, which
Speaker 2: is being able to hold it for a while, which
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the second tape starts going into all
Speaker 2: of that already and holding images in your head. All
Speaker 2: those things are in libre e. And it's the same
Speaker 2: exact things that they're doing in this the same exact
Speaker 2: type of stuff that any ceremonial magician would be doing
Speaker 2: in the beginning of their travels with this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, lesser banishing ritual of the
Speaker 1: pentagram you're creating you're creating a pentagram with your hand,
Speaker 1: and you're drawing it in blue fire, right, and then
Speaker 1: you're connecting each one of those pentagrams to with a
Speaker 1: white or blazing white light. You know, you're told to
Speaker 1: as you call on the archangels that you're supposed to
Speaker 1: mentally envision them in certain colors, right, I mean, and
Speaker 1: they stand at the four corners. And another one that
Speaker 1: really rang a bell to me was you know body
Speaker 1: of Light. I mean the breathing exercise in the Gateway
Speaker 1: tapes is the same breathing that you do in the
Speaker 1: Body of Light ritual. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're breathe in light and you blow out like gray smoke. Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're getting rid of all the old stale energy.
Speaker 1: You're grounding your feet, the same thing that you do
Speaker 1: in Gateway. You're grounding your feet. You know, you're you're
Speaker 1: putting the body on this sleep too, So yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: A second tape. In the second tape, it actually goes
Speaker 2: over practically your whole face except for the top of
Speaker 2: your head and the whole rest of your body. You
Speaker 2: were supposed to actually picture yourself putting to sleep and
Speaker 2: bringing all the energy into your brain. And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is exactly how like you know, in the Astromargentum,
Speaker 2: Crawley's a secret society to eventually get to a certain degree,
Speaker 2: you will be tested to have to, you know, in
Speaker 2: a position of your choice, sit that way or stay
Speaker 2: that way for an hour. Yeah, some people are like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck did you do that? It's insane, It
Speaker 2: does sound like it, but at some point the way
Speaker 2: for you to pull that off is that you almost
Speaker 2: have to actually believe that your body's not there, so
Speaker 2: you don't even think of wanting to move your Pinky's
Speaker 2: crazy as that sounds, but that's basically how you pull
Speaker 2: something that like that off. That's exactly what the second
Speaker 2: tape was already going into to where when I listened
Speaker 2: to it, you could almost feel like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: laying down there, it's just like literally just your head
Speaker 2: on the bed, like if you can get really good
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, that's exactly how you can hold that
Speaker 2: pose for an hour is because you actually don't even
Speaker 2: feel like anything else is there.
Speaker 1: And there would be times even when I would do
Speaker 1: the Gateway Experience tape one and two, where I didn't
Speaker 1: even know, I didn't even know if I one into
Speaker 1: or could move my hand, and I didn't even care.
Speaker 2: I thought it was cool as shit that I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: I really like hardly even feel anything there. Yeah, Like damn,
Speaker 2: I was like, then this happens on the second tape. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm sure most people probably wouldn't get the same results,
Speaker 2: but you know, because we actually realized what it was
Speaker 2: trying to do kind of, but I was impressed just
Speaker 2: from the second table.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, and all.
Speaker 2: Practices I was used to already.
Speaker 1: Right, And what it feels like to me, if I'm
Speaker 1: being totally honest, is that a cloak as a whole.
Speaker 1: It feels like for a very long time, they it's
Speaker 1: like bits and pieces and bits and pieces and bits
Speaker 1: and pieces, and one group has some info, another group
Speaker 1: has another some other info that's maybe not even the same,
Speaker 1: and so you're more or less like putting together it
Speaker 1: to me, it feels like you're trying to put together
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that was once lost, right, like
Speaker 1: that this was a very well understood science at one
Speaker 1: time that was fragmented and people as a whole. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a society or culture that we lost that information
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Maybe you know, anything from uh, you know,
Speaker 1: changing polls, you know, because of you know, magnetism, electromagnetic
Speaker 1: electromagnetism of the sun, which maybe destinct our brains or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many different things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it definitely feels like in me occult when
Speaker 1: you're studying magic, that it's a lost art, it's a
Speaker 1: lost science, right. But then when you read, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you read this document in the analysis of Gateway, it's
Speaker 1: almost like they were like they studied it and they
Speaker 1: researched all of these these different types of magic and
Speaker 1: then consolidated them and then like put a turbo charge
Speaker 1: on you know.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny you talking about that. And one
Speaker 2: of the pictures I had up that I did want
Speaker 2: to go into was when they draw the absolute infinity,
Speaker 2: it's that wavelength and basically it's like showing you how
Speaker 2: they're trying to explain, well, there's two things that can
Speaker 2: actually get on it. Yeah, it says when you get
Speaker 2: to negative or ten to the negative thirty three centimeters
Speaker 2: in this vibrating, oscillating thing. I found that to be
Speaker 2: interesting that when you hit negative thirty three, like the
Speaker 2: negative thirty or I mean the thirty three degrees in freemasonry,
Speaker 2: that is when you actually start clicking out in their
Speaker 2: opinion of the time in space, and this is when
Speaker 2: you can really start doing some crazy stuff, right, just
Speaker 2: throw that in there. That was what I originally wanted
Speaker 2: to go into, but it was showing the wavelength. Now,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, a lot of what this sphere of
Speaker 2: Bana or Saturn, that idea you know in the Kabbala
Speaker 2: and ceremonial magic. Some of this stuff I think it's
Speaker 2: really telling you about there seems like stuff that they
Speaker 2: should not have known about. Technically, they're going by how
Speaker 2: long we supposedly have been studying the cabala some people
Speaker 2: say hundreds thousands of years. Now my opinion, this sign
Speaker 2: of Aquarius the waves is the same exact fucking thing
Speaker 2: that it's showing me here with this wave pattern, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it would almost be even with electric. I think, like
Speaker 2: you know, the lightning bolt, and a lot has to
Speaker 2: do with stuff like that. In my opinion, Banah would
Speaker 2: be showing you when you're clicking in and out to
Speaker 2: be able to go in between both worlds, which would
Speaker 2: be that wave for Aquarius. And then if you think
Speaker 2: of electric, you have ACDC, which is alternating current. So
Speaker 2: like if you even want to use electric as a
Speaker 2: as a symbol for that, it's showing you going in between,
Speaker 2: being able to go in between both worlds. Now, if
Speaker 2: you have stuff like showing you like these these waves,
Speaker 2: or you're actually associating electric types of ideas into something
Speaker 2: like this, you have to start to wonder. And if
Speaker 2: you believe it, and I think if I had enough
Speaker 2: time to go over it, I could, you know, definitely
Speaker 2: make a case for it. You'd have to wonder how
Speaker 2: long has this science actually been.
Speaker 1: Known all right, you know?
Speaker 2: And is it just hidden from people? Because yeah, we're
Speaker 2: talking about this stuff people two thousand years ago. If
Speaker 2: you know, the Kabala is that old? How the fuck
Speaker 2: did they know.
Speaker 1: About that exactly? And that's what I mean, why, that's
Speaker 1: why I say what I mean. It feels fragmented it
Speaker 1: feels like they were told this information or given this
Speaker 1: information and they were like, oh shit, okay, well let's
Speaker 1: use like a fish and water to symbolize it. Like
Speaker 1: so you could say they were it almost feels like
Speaker 1: they were struggling to understand a lot of it themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And but at the same time, they had a pretty
Speaker 1: good understanding. I mean, if you look at a lot
Speaker 1: of the ancient hebrew books, you know, the Book of
Speaker 1: Formation specifically talks about how the Hebrews received their language
Speaker 1: and how they believed that each letter and each each
Speaker 1: each letter had a number correspondence to the letter, and
Speaker 1: that certain words said in a certain way were like
Speaker 1: we're holy or special or different than others. And you
Speaker 1: if you look at, you know, the construction of Solomon's temple,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of hinting there that he
Speaker 1: was using certain god words or vibratory things to you know,
Speaker 1: to lift blocks and accomplish these goals that he was
Speaker 1: that he was doing. So it does seem like the
Speaker 1: Hebrews had a very good idea at a rudimentary level
Speaker 1: that you know, something is up with vibration and tones
Speaker 1: and the way. Yeah, the correlation to the human body.
Speaker 1: And again, how did they know that It's got to
Speaker 1: be something that was older than them? At least that's
Speaker 1: what I would think.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I think.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too when you look at when you
Speaker 1: look at wave lengths. Right, So if you look at
Speaker 1: let's say a sound wave, now, the lower of the
Speaker 1: sound waves, Okay, let's say you're a very low tone,
Speaker 1: the wavelength is very long and drawn out. So imagine
Speaker 1: like an ocean wave that only peaks, you know, it
Speaker 1: up and down very slowly, and a very long time
Speaker 1: in between the apex of the peak of that vibration
Speaker 1: to the others. Now, if you take a high pitched sound,
Speaker 1: you know, a higher tone, then the wavelength is much
Speaker 1: shorter and much more condensed. So in other words, your
Speaker 1: your ocean wave now is going up and down and
Speaker 1: up and down and up and down and up and down,
Speaker 1: and the time that it's going up and down is
Speaker 1: very short and very close together. And in this document
Speaker 1: here they're talking about, you know, the absolute of infinity,
Speaker 1: and like New York Patriot was talking about freaking out there.
Speaker 1: You know, they have a very they have a very
Speaker 1: good explanation here as to why the tones work and
Speaker 1: you know, all related to color, and more importantly, it's
Speaker 1: I believe it's all related to dimensions and time space.
Speaker 1: I think that it's I mean, at least they were
Speaker 1: based on the research that I've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of research on this just one specific subject for a
Speaker 1: very long time as far as like m theory, string theory,
Speaker 1: dimensional physics. I just something I'm really fascinated in, and
Speaker 1: did not they did not like that I was researching
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in the Gold Dawn.
Speaker 2: But I found that in here going through their manuals,
Speaker 2: there was one where they do a lesson with them thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, would be like picturing your astral body and
Speaker 2: turning certain colors to do different things like purple, would
Speaker 2: to be like heal yourself, like I guess, like I
Speaker 2: feel like with you know, And that's all stuff too
Speaker 2: that I've you know, that's how a lot of magicians
Speaker 2: are witches basically practice healing is doing that specific colors
Speaker 2: on parts of their body or somebody else's.
Speaker 1: Or a certain turn or a certain gemstones yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: certain earth materials, you know, you know, like natural organic things,
Speaker 1: whether it be a branch or a leaf or something.
Speaker 1: So it's very specific in the color that you have
Speaker 1: to get, and you know, there's a lot of power
Speaker 1: in that in the color. And I'm thinking, so if
Speaker 1: you look at the Kabbawa right, and you look at
Speaker 1: the shape of the tree of life, and then if
Speaker 1: you take that and you superimpose that image on top
Speaker 1: of M fhere or string theory, which is the way
Speaker 1: that you know, science believes that dimensions are organized if
Speaker 1: you take the Kabbala and the outline for M theory
Speaker 1: and you're super imposed them on each other, theory of
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, even down to the shape. And uh,
Speaker 1: I find that real fascinating. It's another another thing.
Speaker 2: When they're showing the Taurus. You know, basically they're showing
Speaker 2: a black hole. I don't know if that's what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. If you were to actually position the tree
Speaker 2: on that, it's almost as if like that middle part
Speaker 2: would be like different.
Speaker 1: Well, the way it's weird, the way that they organize
Speaker 1: the dimensions is that they it's strange. It's it's not
Speaker 1: even as though way they have a location in time
Speaker 1: and space. It's as though it's like a like a
Speaker 1: dimension within the time and space. So the lower the vibration,
Speaker 1: the lower the dimension, and then the higher the higher
Speaker 1: the vibration, the higher the dimension.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and spheres on the Cabala all like that too.
Speaker 2: It's right levels on it and of density basically right.
Speaker 1: And then it seems like wherever it's the vibration is
Speaker 1: higher and it's located closer to to what they call
Speaker 1: the white hole. And we can get into that a
Speaker 1: little bit a little bit more. But yeah, they're there.
Speaker 1: To me, it seems like m theory and the Kabbala
Speaker 1: are now to me at least, the exact same thing
Speaker 1: that is explaining dimensions and probably how we interact with
Speaker 1: dimensions based based on our vibration. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I definitely have a you know, I guess do.
Speaker 2: Like I told you before, I do to like some
Speaker 2: of my past experiences and some of the knowledge of
Speaker 2: some other things like this, I had started wondering, you know,
Speaker 2: certain things with the Kabbala. I was just like, you know,
Speaker 2: some of this almost seems like it's almost showing me this,
Speaker 2: but just in a different way.
Speaker 1: Yep, pretty weird, it is. Y it is pretty weird.
Speaker 1: And again it doesn't it makes me think how in
Speaker 1: the world that ancient Hebrews knew that information that long ago.
Speaker 1: I mean they symbolized it with a tree, something that
Speaker 1: would take you know, they can you imagine how smart
Speaker 1: they would have had to have been to create something
Speaker 1: that would go on through generations with symbolism that people
Speaker 1: knew that they could then understand thousands of years later.
Speaker 1: It's just wild to me. You know. The Kabbala itself
Speaker 1: is very it's very mysterious, and it's weird how it
Speaker 1: was able to hold such power for so long, because
Speaker 1: I mean, the people who drew it were able to
Speaker 1: really explain and how how the dimensions interact with each other,
Speaker 1: because you have paths all along the kabata mm.
Speaker 2: Hmm, and those all have the experience as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty much.
Speaker 1: Right they do. So, yeah, you have like you know,
Speaker 1: in one sphere, you have a certain attributes of that sphere.
Speaker 1: So maybe in that sphere that's the dimensional reality.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I have some tough twust around ideas
Speaker 2: like that myself actually, yeap.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, hey, in life, you do good stuff,
Speaker 1: well you're going to go to a higher vibration because
Speaker 1: you know, you are doing positive things that isn't drawing
Speaker 1: you to a lower dimension because the you know, feelings
Speaker 1: like anger and hate are of a lower vibratory resonance,
Speaker 1: which is interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I had some other things that I
Speaker 2: wrote down too that I thought was interesting. Was the
Speaker 2: you know, going back to like a you know, cult stuff,
Speaker 2: the energy conversion box. I kind of took that as like,
Speaker 2: you know, at some point it's telling you to put
Speaker 2: like all your worries into like this box that you
Speaker 2: have to like create in your mind.
Speaker 1: And then at the beginning of the gateway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I thought that that was like
Speaker 2: almost kind of in a way, it's cheesy way of
Speaker 2: like doing your banishing ritual. You're like, all right, all
Speaker 2: these things that I could possibly be thinking about that
Speaker 2: would kind of influence me right now, I'm pushing that away,
Speaker 2: putting it somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I picked up the same thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is to me, it seems like a banishing ritual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're putting all your worries and cares into a box.
Speaker 1: You're leaving them there. You do your ritual, You're leaving
Speaker 1: all your cares and your worries in the circle.
Speaker 2: And you know, and then the The other thing that
Speaker 2: I thought definitely struck out to me was the in
Speaker 2: this thing they have it's cold that I think like
Speaker 2: reball whatever, it's a resonant energy balloon. It's protection against
Speaker 2: negative and undesirable energies that you basically you're almost putting
Speaker 2: a shield around yourself because it says it says I
Speaker 2: think in the manual, and I think it's even set
Speaker 2: inside the CIA thing that you can come across undesirable
Speaker 2: things that you may not want to be associated with.
Speaker 2: So it's even saying that there's entities out there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Funny thing I thought about that though, is that whole
Speaker 2: resonant energy balloon. I thought of two different things, neither one.
Speaker 2: They always tell you, oh, you're supposed to know your
Speaker 2: Holy Guardian Angel first before you cross the abyss because
Speaker 2: you have it as like protection or that's again just
Speaker 2: maybe even more of just banishing, because when you're banishing
Speaker 2: ceremonial like if you're actually doing like a legit thing,
Speaker 2: you're almost kind of putting like a dome or productive
Speaker 2: dome over yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. And I mean when you're doing you're banishing
Speaker 1: a ritual, you're creating that protective circle that follows you
Speaker 1: the entire day.
Speaker 2: Yep, you know, and it tells you that you need
Speaker 2: to construct that before you kind of like really cross
Speaker 2: over and go out there. It's a suggesting I just
Speaker 2: found it. Yeah, I mean very much like a ceremonial.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, uh, it's the first ritual that
Speaker 1: you would do before you perform in the magic, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: banishing ritual, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say that that is the uh, it's basically
Speaker 2: your platform. Everything should be done like that. I mean
Speaker 2: even Crowley even pushed that a lot. So you're first
Speaker 2: and only thing to do should be banishing or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when I read that, right, and when I
Speaker 1: read that in the CIA document, I had not dropped it, okay,
Speaker 1: because like you said, it says, okay, well, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Gateway experience works. This is how you do it. Oh
Speaker 1: and by the way, before you really get into like
Speaker 1: a astral travel and the remote viewing, you're going to
Speaker 1: need to do this energy conversion balloon because you've got
Speaker 1: to protect yourself against lower resonating entities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly having said it two entities for sure.
Speaker 2: I know what said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the CIA document and what and they talk
Speaker 1: about that these entities are of a lower vibrational level.
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