Speaker 1: Love Love, But there's going to be this guy that'd
Speaker 1: be like, we are love and then he wouldn't finish
Speaker 1: saying live. He'd be like, just kidding. We're pre recorded
Speaker 1: and heavily edited. We could have I don't do any
Speaker 1: editing on this fucking show. So yeah, that's my first
Speaker 1: cuss word to day. All Right, we're competing with so
Speaker 1: much stuff right now, and we were supposed to have
Speaker 1: another person on here. I was supposed to have two
Speaker 1: Jeffs and one show, but we only have one Jeff
Speaker 1: on one RAMS fan right, And if you're watching satur
Speaker 1: Night's main event tonight, everybody, I feel sorry for you,
Speaker 1: including you Jeff Jeff Wusso as I'm watching it live
Speaker 1: on the side of the second screen. Yes he turned
Speaker 1: it off right now, and you focus on the show
Speaker 1: right now, mister, you focus.
Speaker 2: But yes, we're live.
Speaker 1: Probably be our lowest viewerships night because we got we're
Speaker 1: competing with the UFC and Sired Dance main event Triple
Speaker 1: A and you know that's too much time competing with themselves.
Speaker 1: We got to compete with them too. So you're here
Speaker 1: live watching us.
Speaker 3: I don't know why when all that stuff's going on yeah,
Speaker 3: well here's Jeff.
Speaker 2: Oh there he is. Hey everyone, Sorry I got carried
Speaker 2: away with that Lyra Bailey match.
Speaker 3: I told you, I told you.
Speaker 1: I believe you for a guy, for a guy who
Speaker 1: claims not to watch the weekly product for you to
Speaker 1: watch Sired Dance made event.
Speaker 2: Is I don't watch the weekly product because you don't
Speaker 2: need to, because there's I actually enjoyed these other events
Speaker 2: more because I don't watch the weekly product. But I
Speaker 2: watched it this week for you all, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: get here on time. Oh it's not right.
Speaker 1: He made me nervous. He made me ship bricks over
Speaker 1: your jam. But I'm glad you better late than ever. Yes, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I made both of you guys kind of put sier
Speaker 1: Knight's made a bout of whole tonight right now and
Speaker 1: we're here to review SmackDown from last night, which was
Speaker 1: February or sorry, February February February which was July. Really
Speaker 1: I'm late July seventeen, twenty twenty six. Yeah, February, jesus,
Speaker 1: I'm not even stoned right now. Why is my mind
Speaker 1: going to February? But yes, two, Jeff's one RAMS fan
Speaker 1: reviewing SmackDown and hopefully Extills allows me to be on
Speaker 1: here because Joe got wild last night.
Speaker 3: It is when you have like four minorities in youth,
Speaker 3: y're on racial jokes.
Speaker 1: So yes, we're gonna review SmackDown and all its glory,
Speaker 1: all of it's there's gonna be so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: Why not we get started from Albany, New York, the
Speaker 1: MPa or MVP or m something arena sort of points room,
Speaker 1: starting off the show with recaps like we always do,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I always got to refresh your memory. Gunter
Speaker 1: comes out by baby Gunter, you know, every time since
Speaker 1: he's been once the back every week, come out and
Speaker 1: playing complaining and plank and plain. I had uh And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about this, jeff Linmann.
Speaker 1: I feel like you should have been suspended in storyline
Speaker 1: after beating up all this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely or if they were going to do the whole
Speaker 2: thing where all this insisted, the stipulation shouldn't have been
Speaker 2: that the two of them get added to the title match.
Speaker 2: The stipulation should have been the nick all this is
Speaker 2: the special referee for this match.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw you put that. Yeah, that was one prediction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that advances the story of Nick all
Speaker 2: this to Gunter at SummerSlam because he costs him a
Speaker 2: title match for real this time. I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: it's right there and it's it's it's lazy booking, but
Speaker 2: it's not as lazy as what they did, which is nothing.
Speaker 3: I know, it just to put back, just to put
Speaker 3: Punk in the mix back again on SmackDown.
Speaker 2: This time. Now, I'm perfectly fine with Punk being the champion.
Speaker 2: I mean, you only have like a couple more years
Speaker 2: to make money on him. But it's clearly not the
Speaker 2: boost that they thought it was going to be. But regardless,
Speaker 2: this whole thing with with Gunter and all this, you
Speaker 2: would think that that was that this is the lack
Speaker 2: of the suspension was for a reason. It's either sighted
Speaker 2: that that either Nick challenged him to SummerSlam or or
Speaker 2: what I said earlier, but something. But the stipulation if
Speaker 2: you if you bad guys win, I'm gonna reward you
Speaker 2: by making a fatal four way.
Speaker 1: What yeah, like that's a Gunter's SmackDown run has been
Speaker 1: is stipulations. Stipulation. This stipulator, special guest referee and me
Speaker 1: to this match make it a triple threat do that
Speaker 1: like Gunther's lost all Like like I've heard people bring
Speaker 1: up online like what what has happened to the guy
Speaker 1: that retired Sena and retired Goldberg? Like yeah, like what
Speaker 1: that was all? Like you raised? Like it feels like
Speaker 1: everything was erased.
Speaker 3: Now it's just I demand. It's pretty much the whole,
Speaker 3: Like I demand to be put in match or else
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get my my legal team on you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to get my way. The last couple of weeks and
Speaker 3: it's starting to get old really fast. Yeah, it's either
Speaker 3: I get my legal team or I beat you up
Speaker 3: until I get my way. What are we doing here
Speaker 3: with Gunther? I want the Gunter from last year where
Speaker 3: he was just wrecking shop, taking names, making everyone cry,
Speaker 3: or if I think he's doing that, have a.
Speaker 2: Scene where they get served with papers, you know, by
Speaker 2: someone who's pretending to be a WW Medican. They're like, wait,
Speaker 2: do you work here? You've been served? And it's like injunction,
Speaker 2: you know, relief from you know Gunter, Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: gun or Horse Radish or whatever his name is, you know,
Speaker 2: something like like tell a story. It's like I'm tired
Speaker 2: of the excuses that after WrestleMania. Everything slows down in
Speaker 2: the summer is the slow time. I'm sorry. You're getting
Speaker 2: paid a billion dollars a year by all of these
Speaker 2: broadcast platforms. It's a fifty two week of product. You're
Speaker 2: not being paid to take slow times off anymore. It
Speaker 2: is in nineteen ninety. Stop it stop the stop the bullshit.
Speaker 2: And you wonder why people aren't watching. You wonder why
Speaker 2: people aren't paying sixteen thousand dollars for a ticket. You
Speaker 2: wonder why people don't aren't gonna spend money to spend
Speaker 2: the week in freaking Minneapolis, in Lye or August, whenever
Speaker 2: it is, and spend another ten thousand dollars in hotel
Speaker 2: fees and planes and car rentals and food and all
Speaker 2: the merch that your kids are gonna want or whatever
Speaker 2: the case might be. You know, for this, when you're
Speaker 2: on seventeen different streaming services, and if you're already a
Speaker 2: WW fan, you know, unless you have bundles or whatever,
Speaker 2: you're probably paying one hundred dollars a month just to
Speaker 2: watch WW from home in air conditioning. Yes, much better.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was going to bring energy here.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ran you make me watch SmackDown, you're
Speaker 2: gonna get rants.
Speaker 3: So Adam, after the recap of last week, we're pretty
Speaker 3: much getting anough. We get to talk about gun Through again,
Speaker 3: airing out his grievances about what happened last week, and
Speaker 3: then Adam Piers know he has to do double duty
Speaker 3: this week since you know, all this is out of commission, right.
Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about Adam Piers just doing
Speaker 3: double duty is like the last couple of weeks. Whatever,
Speaker 3: I don't care, It's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's to me, there's never been a good
Speaker 1: GM since Steady longer Eric Bischoff, so ever since those two,
Speaker 1: there's really never been a good GM.
Speaker 2: So hee like anyone he makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like people can usually bully all this
Speaker 1: or Piers, especially Peers from what I hear, and to
Speaker 1: get in their way, So he might.
Speaker 3: Be a Now Piers is you know, having the Cojones
Speaker 3: tells him like, hey, Nicko, was gonna get thrown you
Speaker 3: a bone before you choked him out.
Speaker 2: I mean, would I rather be Jim Cornett coming in
Speaker 2: and and like making some sense out of this ship? Yes,
Speaker 2: but you know, with with the staff they have, but
Speaker 2: the choices are him or Robert Stone. I'll go with
Speaker 2: Pierce over Stone. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: And Chewy.
Speaker 3: So Adam Pierce comes out after you know all this
Speaker 3: or a gun through is pretty much is ranting and
Speaker 3: raving about what happened last week and then he's like hey,
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, maybe you shouldn't have choked
Speaker 3: him out. He was gonna get throw you a bone
Speaker 3: if you guys, if your team wins Saturday Night main
Speaker 3: event for that tag match, you guys get added to
Speaker 3: the SummerSlam main event card and turned into a fatal
Speaker 3: four way. But he was all happy and jacked up
Speaker 3: about that, hearing that he might get another shot for
Speaker 3: the title.
Speaker 2: That's right, Nick nick All, this saved his job for
Speaker 2: that stipulation. Because nick All this his brain was so
Speaker 2: scrambled that he was singing backwards. By the way, the
Speaker 2: only person that's on the roster who maybe could be
Speaker 2: a GM and maybe that's a smart idea because it's
Speaker 2: gonna get old real quick is Dan Housen. Him doing
Speaker 2: the wrestling. And then this stick it has a shelf.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, here's the thing. WW wants it to have
Speaker 1: a shelf play. I don't know if you ever watched
Speaker 1: Dan Houison on the Indies. But like me and Brian
Speaker 1: Rag will stay Dan how's it can work? Ww just
Speaker 1: doesn't want to let us see him work.
Speaker 2: He can work, but I mean people, Yeah, I saw
Speaker 2: him on the Ndies. I also saw him on the
Speaker 2: ringobock like. I have Dan Housen merch from pre COVID.
Speaker 2: I have a baseball jersey that I'm way too fat
Speaker 2: to wear. I have a Dan Housing COVID mask. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been following Dan hous He can work, but I
Speaker 2: mean people like to pretend he's like Kurt Angler. So
Speaker 2: he's he's okay, but but nothing's going to change the
Speaker 2: fact that he's one hundred and fifty six pounds.
Speaker 3: So after what the sipulation that a if you guys
Speaker 3: win Saturday's main event for the main event, you guys
Speaker 3: get added, here comes Cody wanting his uh, you know,
Speaker 3: his pound of flesh after getting taken out.
Speaker 1: Oh but here's the funny part, though, Cody had to
Speaker 1: do the oh let if tyro go off and then
Speaker 1: it's not going through.
Speaker 3: I know he shouldn't even done that yet. He should
Speaker 3: have just winked it to the ring. Try to beat
Speaker 3: up gun Through and that.
Speaker 2: Was it was. It's less like when Jeff Hardy was
Speaker 2: going to rescue his brother but he stopped to do
Speaker 2: his dance first. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's like that's not always been a problem.
Speaker 1: Like when somebody comes out interfere, they got to play
Speaker 1: the music, It's like, why not just come out.
Speaker 2: Well the music like that way. I'm sorry, I'm talking
Speaker 2: over the ever Jeff as if this is my chef.
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, I'm worry about talking over Jeff Due.
Speaker 2: Yeah then okay, let's just keep talking over.
Speaker 3: But honestly, it's like, Cody, why did you just do
Speaker 3: the pope, do your whoa pose and then go for
Speaker 3: your ten pound flesh? Just just go in there, just
Speaker 3: going there beat up gun Through because he got taken
Speaker 3: out two mondays ago.
Speaker 1: And then kame the announcement. I didn't want to hear
Speaker 1: after this that we were gonna get Cody gun Through again.
Speaker 2: Night. Oh you were you?
Speaker 3: You felt the same way I did when I watched
Speaker 3: it last night.
Speaker 1: How many times we've burned through gun Cody and gun
Speaker 1: Through so many I don't want to see Cody and
Speaker 1: gun Through fight for another couple of years now.
Speaker 2: This is something I've hated about w W E for
Speaker 2: years is that we see the same guys for like
Speaker 2: three or four segments a night, and now it's worse
Speaker 2: because they are the same people who are like doing commercials,
Speaker 2: so you even see them during the breaks as well,
Speaker 2: and then the other promotions like for Fanatics, so you
Speaker 2: see Cody like seven times a night, and he's not
Speaker 2: that interesting. And meanwhile they were releasing people, and you know,
Speaker 2: I get it, but like, give us different people, like
Speaker 2: even even if you're if you kept I don't know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Apollo, Cruz Andrade and dol Ziegler and
Speaker 2: they lost for it for it a six matches. Who cares?
Speaker 2: You know, at least you're seeing different people, and just
Speaker 2: every now and then maybe someone accidentally strikes gold, like
Speaker 2: Lyra Valkyria tonight accidentally got it getting our nose busted open,
Speaker 2: which is probably all sudden they give her a whole
Speaker 2: new life accidentally, Steve Austin saying Austin three sixteen said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna whoop your ass or whatever. I mean, you
Speaker 2: just never know what might happen and what might catch on.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they knew that the Knicks
Speaker 2: were gonna win after Dan Hausen took the curse off.
Speaker 2: It just happened, and now you have absolute gold. Well
Speaker 2: you turn gold into platinum. But still, yeah, I agree
Speaker 2: on that one.
Speaker 1: Her chicken salad and chicken shit or whenever.
Speaker 3: Speaking of turning chicken shit into chicken salad. We have
Speaker 3: to get the announcement from Adam Pierce that Rhea is
Speaker 3: hurt and she can't make it to Summer Slams. So
Speaker 3: we got to make an interim Women's WW Championship in
Speaker 3: a ladder match.
Speaker 1: And I was fighting over this too. Qualifying matches, lazy booking,
Speaker 1: lazy booking. They didn't like. I read an I tried
Speaker 1: to previous SmackDown last night before you just get an
Speaker 1: idea what the show was gonna be about. And the
Speaker 1: day of the article was WW forgot the book SmackDown
Speaker 1: this week and insaid if anybody else did this, they
Speaker 1: would be fired. But apparently this doesn't work in wrestling. Well, no,
Speaker 1: they forget that.
Speaker 2: They asked Tony kna bucket because this is what he
Speaker 2: did the interim champions and then and they said, and
Speaker 2: now you know what's gonna happen. It's like there's there's
Speaker 2: four matches, so and then they're and then you're gonna
Speaker 2: have a loser's last chance fatal four way.
Speaker 3: Yes, we already I already predicted that. When I saw that,
Speaker 3: I was like, you already had You're gonna have announced
Speaker 3: two matches for two women to get in already for tonight,
Speaker 3: and then we have two other matches coming up, and
Speaker 3: then you're probably gonna be right with the last chance
Speaker 3: losers h qualifier.
Speaker 1: WW like loves the dust off the ladder match trope
Speaker 1: thing right, then NXT a lot like with the North
Speaker 1: American title.
Speaker 2: In championship, just say it, that's going to be the
Speaker 2: women's champion. But when Ria is healthy, she's gonna get
Speaker 2: She's going to get a shot at whoever the champion
Speaker 2: is at that time. You don't need to do this
Speaker 2: interim thing. I mean, there's there's a precedent inconsistent, but
Speaker 2: there is a precedent of stripping people titles who couldn't
Speaker 2: defend them. They did it to Naomi Oscar when she
Speaker 2: was pregnant. They don't do it consistently, and they certainly
Speaker 2: don't en force the thirty day rule, but it's been
Speaker 2: done enough that people know about it, and there's still
Speaker 2: no reason why when the person is healthy that never
Speaker 2: lost the time. I mean, that's a story. I want
Speaker 2: to I want a chance of my belt that I
Speaker 2: never lost. Okay, you got it? Was it? Oh? No?
Speaker 2: Are you thinking of Becky with Oscar? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, but I said okay, you said was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't pussy foot around with that money in the
Speaker 3: bank during COVID.
Speaker 2: It's like and by the way, Naomi pregnant too, also,
Speaker 2: how to give up the belt? She had to give
Speaker 2: out the bell for a regular injury and pregnant, so
Speaker 2: nail me twice. Yeah, So that's the one thing.
Speaker 1: Unless it's UFC, you're not gonna have an interim CHAMPIONI
Speaker 1: more than a year.
Speaker 2: Ye bullshit, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly just stripped Rhea. The fans will be
Speaker 3: but hurt about it, but then we'll be excited for
Speaker 3: her to come back. When she comes back, let her
Speaker 3: have a triple h moment. Yeah, and she'll be number
Speaker 3: one contender for whoever's holding the belt. Now we have
Speaker 3: to have two champions at the moment like UFC style.
Speaker 2: And she doesn't have to rush her return like what
Speaker 2: if there's a setback, or what if it takes longer.
Speaker 2: What if she gets to ninety two percent instead of
Speaker 2: one hundred percent? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh, I like how they've said, we don't know when
Speaker 1: Rio will be back, but it's very soon supposedly, however
Speaker 1: they worded it.
Speaker 3: So honestly, it'll probably be like a Saturday Night main
Speaker 3: event or a pay review between now and or after
Speaker 3: SummerSlam and Survivor Series.
Speaker 1: Or I would say, you could win the interim title,
Speaker 1: but when you start defending the interim title, that's when
Speaker 1: it gets a little goofy.
Speaker 3: Because it's just holding. It's just a placeholder for oh,
Speaker 3: your number one contender when Ria comes back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we get it. We we wanted to
Speaker 2: be champion. We don't want her to win the money
Speaker 2: in the bank. We want she's going to be a
Speaker 2: face and all of that stuff. But you don't have
Speaker 2: to like now, is this is this new thing? There's
Speaker 2: now going to be interim champions because because they want
Speaker 2: to sell replica belts with with you know the whoever
Speaker 2: many thousand people buy a rect look a belt of
Speaker 2: their favorite wrestler who happens to be holding it. Then
Speaker 2: is that what it's about. Yes, that's what it's about,
Speaker 2: these money grubbing assholes. I mean, oh yeah, but they
Speaker 2: don't count as all the fans they lose from from
Speaker 2: this stupidity. Yeah, because I can watch stupid wrestling and
Speaker 2: less of it easily.
Speaker 1: Stupid wrestling sometimes it's funny, stupid, it's it's stupid exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Always says about Luca, Luca is silly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can probably skip the fact that, you know,
Speaker 3: they announced to the matches for that qualifier.
Speaker 1: And the women were backstage, like you like how they
Speaker 1: did that people rabbing at the arena, but just the women,
Speaker 1: and they did it after there was already the Cody
Speaker 1: and gun through thing. Yeah, that's like, okay, ww, you're
Speaker 1: not football, You're not UFC. We don't got to see
Speaker 1: people arriving to the arena. Did you do it with Hogan?
Speaker 1: Did you do with Macho Man? Did you do it
Speaker 1: with Andre the Giant? Did you do it with Warrior?
Speaker 1: You didn't do it back then. I don't know why
Speaker 1: we need it.
Speaker 2: Now because it waste time because it's part of their
Speaker 2: formula now and the live crowd pops when they see
Speaker 2: them on the screen. So it fakes excitement for people
Speaker 2: who are probably dead, tired and bored for the last
Speaker 2: hour sitting there. Wake up, sim slim gym and cricket commercials.
Speaker 3: I know, we get our first match of the night.
Speaker 1: And this was a surprise, Jeff, because this is Tala
Speaker 1: Tunga's first time he lost the singles match in his
Speaker 1: WW career. Am I right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're correct.
Speaker 1: And in the announcers didn't even make a big deal
Speaker 1: about it. They won't even say that fact, this was
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: Right, actual they say that that he's answering to people
Speaker 2: high up on the on the tribal chain. I mean,
Speaker 2: if Tama and Tala are answering to hire people on
Speaker 2: the chain and all they're doing is losing, It's like
Speaker 2: I hate when you turn somebody heel and have them
Speaker 2: join a faction only to lose, or you turn somebody
Speaker 2: period only to have them lose. It makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2: And introducing all this that Tala and Tama maybe are
Speaker 2: working for some sort of higher power, you know, in
Speaker 2: this familial dynamic to lose to Finn Balor, who sure,
Speaker 2: I know Finn Balor has his fans, but also just
Speaker 2: as many people couldn't give two shits about Finn Balor.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't understand why you've got to
Speaker 2: do this to a guy who you've been building as
Speaker 2: a monster, who's six foot nine or whatever he is,
Speaker 2: you know, and build him up to lose to Finn Balor.
Speaker 2: What the hell is Knakamura there for? You know, Yah
Speaker 2: can lose Grayson Waller, he's still there.
Speaker 3: He doesn't release let him lose. Yep, yeah, I know
Speaker 3: Finn Ballad needs. I understand he needs a bill up
Speaker 3: his stock, but you don't need to build up your
Speaker 3: stock to well, one former guy that you used to
Speaker 3: work with in n JPW and then his brother who
Speaker 3: was supposed to be the giant in the group.
Speaker 1: See that's that's one problem that AW and freaking WW has.
Speaker 1: They all got to think like everybody's like watches New
Speaker 1: Japan and they know all these callbacks and Bullet Club,
Speaker 1: like we all watch the Bullet Club. I did not watch.
Speaker 1: I've never seen the Bullet Club ever, and their entity
Speaker 1: when they were in New Japan in any form.
Speaker 2: I th I did, I did, I did the Thrue
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3: I was the dummy who spent the nine nine for
Speaker 3: a New Pan World and then translated to Japanese end,
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Did want for a while. I tried to watch New
Speaker 2: Japan Strong. I gave it about a year.
Speaker 3: N W A power yeah, and then the Access TV
Speaker 3: stuff where they were behind like a couple of months
Speaker 3: after events.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was already doing that with enough companies. It's
Speaker 2: it's teds.
Speaker 1: We already forgave Luca underground once. You can't let everybody.
Speaker 1: Let everybody do that. It was a TV show, it
Speaker 1: was it was a remb They would be taped so
Speaker 1: far in advance, like I think one time they had
Speaker 1: one thing taped almost a year in advance.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, but it was a TV show.
Speaker 2: I didn't view it like a wrestling promotion. I I
Speaker 2: didn't think any of them were the real wrestlers. None
Speaker 2: of those belts were considered wrestling titles until they defended them.
Speaker 2: They brought them to All In, you know, the first
Speaker 2: All In. Oh good. Yeah. So, I mean that was
Speaker 2: a big argument in the wrestling community or the Luca
Speaker 2: belts really championships that we should recognize or not. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you know were it was like recognizing the
Speaker 2: glow championships on the Netflix series Glow As opposed to
Speaker 2: the original Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling. I mean there was
Speaker 2: a debate, and all debates in wrestling they're silly, and
Speaker 2: but this one was, you know, but there is something
Speaker 2: to opious. It wasn't even supposed to be a real
Speaker 2: It was a TV show about a wrestling promotion, but
Speaker 2: also about gods and evil and corrupt city officials, you know,
Speaker 2: bringing in like the age of some evil Messiah anti
Speaker 2: Messiah from from Aztech mythology or whatnot. With Lorenzo Lamas.
Speaker 3: Did you like the fact that when someone got like
Speaker 3: switched out of their contract or left, they just killed
Speaker 3: them off.
Speaker 2: Like it was a TV show. I like sometimes when
Speaker 2: they just killed them off because they were sketched, they
Speaker 2: were scripted to be killed off, not like how sometimes
Speaker 2: when people got killed off they came back a zombie.
Speaker 2: The most interesting Phoenix has ever been was that one
Speaker 2: year as resurrected Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think Penta as popular as he
Speaker 1: as he is now. I don't think he will ever
Speaker 1: be able to reach booking what he was in which Underground.
Speaker 1: Oh No, he had an interview where he called that
Speaker 1: the high school of his wrestling career or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said. The matches with Vampiro, I
Speaker 2: mean master.
Speaker 1: I still have my U Penta Penta Dark shirt from
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, I think about twenty sixteen, still rock that
Speaker 1: because that's one wrestler you can wear a Penta shirt
Speaker 1: in public and not be embarrassed.
Speaker 2: So all right, yes, anything.
Speaker 3: So after after watching Finn pretty much squash the talas, I.
Speaker 1: Mean at least it took to at least it took
Speaker 1: to two de grass though at least they didn't know
Speaker 1: before that the little rope spot where he like, you know,
Speaker 1: wrecked his junk, so he got you know, pretty much
Speaker 1: a you know, a short man low blow with the ropes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wasn't looking. I didn't get this. You're were you talking
Speaker 1: about the part where he was crouching him on the
Speaker 1: ropes and like, do you think okay? For some reason,
Speaker 1: the announcer said, fry frying his onions. I have never
Speaker 1: heard that expression.
Speaker 3: It's probably it was who was on a commentary that night.
Speaker 3: It was a It was Testator and Wade. I think
Speaker 3: it was Testatur said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, Wade is funny. So yeah, good, I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that better. I I once called a very
Speaker 2: very very very very very indie match and and somebody
Speaker 2: got hit there. I said, oh, straight to the jelly Rogers.
Speaker 2: That's what I called the Jolly Rogers. So yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rope to the Jolly Rogers a couple of times.
Speaker 3: You know, ref wasn't looking, and then two Coudi gras
Speaker 3: and Finn wins. At least they at least they made
Speaker 3: Tala looks strong by not one but two codi grass.
Speaker 2: So I don't think he looks strong a boy being
Speaker 2: prone long enough to take to to the grass. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's one hundred and forty seven pounds man falling on you.
Speaker 2: You're a giant. It shouldn't matter. I just don't get
Speaker 2: the I know that the world has changed now everyone's
Speaker 2: the sizes, but you didn't have to have thin beat
Speaker 2: you know, someone that you probably claim is three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: We can think, we can think r O H for
Speaker 1: the little guys getting a chance in wrestling, because I
Speaker 1: believe they've started all that.
Speaker 2: I mean somebody probably started it before our age.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I blame Vince for the one two three
Speaker 4: kid being beating Razor and Rome. Believe me, My my
Speaker 4: grievances go deep and then haven't born a thing. Maciel's
Speaker 4: still wrestling today.
Speaker 2: Believe me. I blame Vince Vince for all this nonsense.
Speaker 2: But the Fantastics and the Fabulous Ones and Kerry Morton.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know this is nothing new is under
Speaker 2: the sun? I get it.
Speaker 3: See as if he'll be sandwiched between two Jeffs, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna answer feel sexy. You want to know what
Speaker 2: I like most about Finn Balor One that his name's
Speaker 2: his name comes from Finn McCool, the Irish hero of
Speaker 2: the Irish and Balor of the Giants of like the
Speaker 2: Irish Monster, but also that he is a fan of Krakenford,
Speaker 2: which is a YouTube channel that I love and I'm
Speaker 2: a patron of, and their host, John F. White, Professor
Speaker 2: John F. White, has been a repeat guest on the
Speaker 2: Garden of Thought and may at some point maybe hook
Speaker 2: me and Finn or whatever his real name is up
Speaker 2: and actually she plugged next week next Sunday, not tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Alex Coquita from the podcast for the Unappreciated Wrestling
Speaker 2: Fans but next week, my guest is Professor John F.
Speaker 2: White from Cracking Ford and Finn Balor' is a fan
Speaker 2: of his. Two.
Speaker 3: Oh, maybe we'll get your Kevin Bacon moming. Connect the
Speaker 3: dots there.
Speaker 2: We all have our Kevin Bacon moments, we just have
Speaker 2: to find them.
Speaker 3: So after the match, we get a backstage thing with
Speaker 3: Punk yelling at Adam about the main event for Saturday
Speaker 3: night's main event as it's going on right now, so
Speaker 3: pretty much he's not happy about it.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 3: It's happening whatever, So he runs into Priest. He runs
Speaker 3: into Damien Priese. Boy, his stock is falling low. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it runs into the Priest. You know, he's a
Speaker 3: paying not to the little promo that happened last week
Speaker 3: about Punk wanting challengers for his for that WW title
Speaker 3: since he won it. Priest was one of the names
Speaker 3: he ran through, and uh. Priest also says like, hey,
Speaker 3: if you and Cody Windows when you're a tag match,
Speaker 3: you know we can.
Speaker 2: We can take it.
Speaker 3: You can take it out at our titles too, and
Speaker 3: vice versa, with the the WW title back and forth
Speaker 3: between them, their jawjacting about it, and then they just
Speaker 3: walk off.
Speaker 2: All I've got to say is that if Our Truth
Speaker 2: volunteered the same thing, priests would have berated him.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the day he does braid Our
Speaker 1: Truth physically, physically with a steel chair.
Speaker 3: Hopefully so we can gloss over women promos during the
Speaker 3: During this next lap, the lad yeah, more time filler.
Speaker 1: The next was probably our most predictable match of the night.
Speaker 1: No Tiffany Stratton versus Jay C Jane.
Speaker 3: Did you love the fact that they threw in the fat,
Speaker 3: the that she's a home state girl from Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That's that's how I knew she was gonna win. I
Speaker 1: was like, like, I even taught my in on one
Speaker 1: of Jet's posts today. I was like, said, mines like
Speaker 1: summer slams in Minnesota, Tiffany Eastern Minnesota. There's no way
Speaker 1: she was going to lose this match there.
Speaker 2: It's also, like I said in the post that you
Speaker 2: commented on, it's not complicated. Ja C Jane wins ninety
Speaker 2: five out of one hundred times that she wins with
Speaker 2: the help of her assistance. Her assistance got neutralized, And
Speaker 2: I said, and they're going to win the belts tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: which they did. And Jacy Jane is going to get
Speaker 2: into the ladder match via the the Loser's Last Chance
Speaker 2: fatal four way when her girls help her, and there's
Speaker 2: a pretty good chance that she'll be the interim champion,
Speaker 2: which is a good way for her to say she
Speaker 2: was a champion. But you know, but she's not really
Speaker 2: the champion, so it's not too soon, so we got
Speaker 2: to put the little asterix on her.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a bummer.
Speaker 2: It's wrestling. It's all fine, it's I.
Speaker 1: Want them to I want Sometimes UFC fighters will do this,
Speaker 1: so it'll be like, I'm gonna just throw this belt
Speaker 1: in the closet when they get the interim till like,
Speaker 1: I want the real thing. I want whoever wins that
Speaker 1: belt to do this just go. I'm gonna throw them
Speaker 1: in the closet and raise Medusa. Just throw it in
Speaker 1: the trash. A commentary was like, you know, this isn't real.
Speaker 1: I want the real one that's around Rhea's waist.
Speaker 2: What she wants is the royalties from the five thousand
Speaker 2: people who buy replica belts with Jacy Jane on the side,
Speaker 2: that's probably what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Do you buy him with the superstar nameplates attached to him.
Speaker 3: No, you have to get them separate. Unfortunately, that's another
Speaker 3: ninety five bucks, right.
Speaker 2: I mean there is something you can get to the
Speaker 2: sort of perennials with them, like you can get the
Speaker 2: Austin and the Scene and the Hogan and things like that.
Speaker 3: But if you want the standard ww championships with like
Speaker 3: a face plate of the wrestler you like, you have
Speaker 3: to buy those separate.
Speaker 2: Right. Everything was at la carte. You can get, but
Speaker 2: you're not getting a potato and creams benet. She gotta
Speaker 2: pay extra for.
Speaker 1: That and the guacamole and all that. M It started
Speaker 1: off with Fatal Influence attacking before the belly of the Ring,
Speaker 1: attacking Tiffany just to make us think she was gonna lose,
Speaker 1: but no, Page and Brie had to show up just
Speaker 1: so we get a little jeesus Surenan's main event, which,
Speaker 1: thank god that experiment's over. I couldn't infest I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it. Originally it was supposed to be Nicky
Speaker 1: and Bri. I know we had a little bit Paige. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're a nostalgia Now, what do you do from here?
Speaker 1: You got the nostalgic title, win out of the way,
Speaker 1: your teamed with your best friend. Now what what do
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 2: Nicki comes back, and she blames page for for losing
Speaker 2: the belts and and you know possibly also blaming Brief
Speaker 2: for betraying her or her and Brie attack Page, and
Speaker 2: that Page has to find a partner. And you know,
Speaker 2: maybe she brings up a low of ice or maybe
Speaker 2: you know, like Asasha comes back, her Camille comes I
Speaker 2: don't know, whatever it is. Maybe that's how Ruby Soho
Speaker 2: comes back, her buddy from you know, way back when,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but whatever it is, that's that's where
Speaker 2: you go next. Yeah, yeah, just ooh, you can do it.
Speaker 2: I actually want to happen, which is just that page
Speaker 2: just top falls off and and she can't pick she
Speaker 2: can't ever put it back on.
Speaker 3: Well, those videos are already circulated those sir.
Speaker 2: First of all, enough with her in the videos. She's twenty.
Speaker 2: She was a kid.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just I'm just being making sexual.
Speaker 2: More shut up. And more importantly, the boobs that are
Speaker 2: now were installed after that event. You want to see
Speaker 2: the work. Those booths are the improved versions that came afterwards.
Speaker 2: It's like telling me about a house, but you build
Speaker 2: a garage and a deck to it and saying it's
Speaker 2: the same house. No, the party's different with the deck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess I needed that.
Speaker 1: So all four women scramble away, and.
Speaker 3: As as uh Jeff predicted, yeah she went j C.
Speaker 3: Jane only wins ninety percent of her matches with their
Speaker 3: girls on her side.
Speaker 1: Which is almost the kind of the same way with
Speaker 1: Jade too.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that one later.
Speaker 1: In the same way, one uh rolling sent on prettiest
Speaker 1: moon Salt ever one two three by Tiffany went ended
Speaker 1: up costing jay Z and she did this like little
Speaker 1: air guitar and dancing thing and then she got hit
Speaker 1: and then got the rolling sent on and pretty. So
Speaker 1: don't taunt your opponents.
Speaker 3: Your opponents, Hey, I learned that the hard way when
Speaker 3: I play w E two K online.
Speaker 2: That's the hard way easy.
Speaker 1: So next wee get we're not capitalized on the Holy
Speaker 1: Ship chance. Last week we have Baron Corman in a
Speaker 1: pre taped backstage segment video package explaining why he's back,
Speaker 1: and I guess he wants the United States title. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but Baron Corman's always
Speaker 1: followed in that category where I'm just indifferent, like I
Speaker 1: don't care and I don't I don't like him, I
Speaker 1: don't hate him. He's just kind of there. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he does for you. Guys.
Speaker 2: Well, Baron Corbin is extremely safe worker, and he's one
Speaker 2: of those guys that he's always a gatekeeper. And he's
Speaker 2: one of those guys like Don Ziggler, that you could
Speaker 2: slide him into any position you could make. You can
Speaker 2: make him at the top of the car, you can
Speaker 2: make him at the bomb of the card, you can
Speaker 2: stick him with the tag team partner whatever it is,
Speaker 2: not really sure. You can make him a convincing face.
Speaker 2: So they almost got there with them ass Corbyn thing,
Speaker 2: but they gave up on it, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: eight months too soon, Like they gave up on it
Speaker 2: after four weeks. Like I mean, they brought in JBL
Speaker 2: and they didn't even him oil Baron Corbin, you know,
Speaker 2: which would at least fit with the JBL character. I mean,
Speaker 2: it just this company, they're so stupid. Despite themselves, they're
Speaker 2: they're somehow successful. But I mean the thing Corbin's promo,
Speaker 2: the thing about is like I'm tired of all these
Speaker 2: fake tough guys out there, I'm legit, and the truth
Speaker 2: is he is. He was. He was a bare knuckle fighter.
Speaker 2: He was a golden gloves winner in either in the
Speaker 2: military or wherever it was. He played Division one football.
Speaker 2: He was in the NFL for a half dozen years.
Speaker 2: He's won a whole bunch like Unlike Moxley, who loses
Speaker 2: regional martial arts competitions, he like wins them all, like
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu, kung fu, whatever he does, he's winning them.
Speaker 2: He's getting gold medals on him. So he's actually a
Speaker 2: legit tough guy like Matt Riddle, who says, I don't
Speaker 2: care what you say, what do you think of me?
Speaker 2: I can beat up all your favorite wrestlers for real,
Speaker 2: and he probably can, with the exception of like Brock
Speaker 2: Lesner or Bobby Lashley and just maybe that on Corbin,
Speaker 2: I I'm like mixed about it.
Speaker 3: I understand that he's been in the system already, so
Speaker 3: he's a he's safe as far as a hire. It's
Speaker 3: not like getting someone new off the street and just
Speaker 3: throwing him to the wolves like a Jacob Fatu. Because
Speaker 3: Jacob didn't even go through developmental They they let him
Speaker 3: like train back the train at the performance center, get
Speaker 3: used to the WW sound, and then threw him on
Speaker 3: main event TV.
Speaker 2: But there's another thing too, and that is that he
Speaker 2: always came off as a bit entitled, and he spent
Speaker 2: the last year plus on the indies working it. He
Speaker 2: worked indie shows, he did he face, he did heal,
Speaker 2: he worked at MOLW, so he grinded, so he showed
Speaker 2: that he wanted it, and I think that that had
Speaker 2: a lot of equity with some people.
Speaker 1: E made an appearance in ADW one night on a
Speaker 1: dark dark match.
Speaker 3: Right, so pretty much proves that he wasn't above it
Speaker 3: even after post WW first run. Oh so, like I said,
Speaker 3: it's a wait and see approach, and plus, like the
Speaker 3: US title scene, let's be real mellow trick and only
Speaker 3: go so far. Ricky Saints can only go so far?
Speaker 3: Where the hell's Ilia dragon Off?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, remember that rumor that came out. WW doesn't see
Speaker 1: him as a big time player or whatever the who
Speaker 1: They're right.
Speaker 2: He's not. He's he's too small to be a big
Speaker 2: time player and he's not that interesting. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that that you know how, Ilia
Speaker 2: Dragonoff always have black guys and broken. I think maybe
Speaker 2: he fractured, like his orbital bone, or like did damage
Speaker 2: to his eye.
Speaker 3: I think there's some ya he's probably he's been on
Speaker 3: off TV for like weeks.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just the whole creative has nothing
Speaker 1: for you stick like with Jordan Grace. Supposedly, where's that's
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I just, I just that's what I understand about this
Speaker 2: thin roster. Like you pointed out that the title scene
Speaker 2: has nothing in it, and what's wrong with them losing
Speaker 2: and winning on main event and then you know, and
Speaker 2: then they beat someone from Triple A or NXT you
Speaker 2: know on like these shows are so formulaic. You get
Speaker 2: four or five matches on a two hour show, and
Speaker 2: you wonder why people are watching. Give the seven or
Speaker 2: eight matches. A couple of them can be four and
Speaker 2: a half minutes long. Who cares? We don't need these
Speaker 2: long entrances. It's a long entrance.
Speaker 1: That's one cool thing about UH And a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't like AW. But with AW, like on Dynamite,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get five or six matches in two hours
Speaker 1: and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool? Why I agree with that? That is
Speaker 2: a definite distinction between them, but even the difference between
Speaker 2: like on a two hour show in NXT twelve to
Speaker 2: fifteen things happen on a two hour WWE show, five
Speaker 2: things happen, but they happen three times each. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So no, we can think attitude error for that too.
Speaker 2: But Ricky Saints, who what a dud?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I never got it. Aw I never got
Speaker 1: it with him.
Speaker 3: I had high outscore him with his Mike skills. But
Speaker 3: then at the same time and.
Speaker 1: Then the Mine Greene pose all the time where he
Speaker 1: does a pose like he's got a migraine.
Speaker 3: It's it's the fact that he's like he's trying to
Speaker 3: compensate with his Mike skills and everything else.
Speaker 1: But he've had two good matches since I've watched him
Speaker 1: in WWE, one against Cody Rhodes and one against Carmelo.
Speaker 1: I think it was ye see are going against Carmelo.
Speaker 2: He had some five ten, one hundred and eighty pound wrestlers.
Speaker 2: Can you have him one in one company?
Speaker 1: Is that? Monty m hm Monty games for showing up.
Speaker 1: We got low numbers from that because we're competing with
Speaker 1: so many I think, are we even competing with sports
Speaker 1: media or I think they're going tonight, aren't they too,
Speaker 1: with like a met show, or weren't they going earlier
Speaker 1: with like a baseball show. I think I don't.
Speaker 2: Once I committed to you and didn't, I was was, actually, uh, well,
Speaker 2: I mean you're you're competing with actually with actual wrestling
Speaker 2: and other sports are on. But yeah, I know Pro
Speaker 2: Wrestling Times is doing a stream.
Speaker 1: I know, uh.
Speaker 2: Full circle of full or false light wrestling or white heat.
Speaker 2: He's doing it, is doing a stream. I know because
Speaker 2: I was on it for an hour and a.
Speaker 3: Half and then fifteen minutes from now, we're probably going
Speaker 3: to be a bombard. They're going to all the channels
Speaker 3: are going to be bombarred with posts Saturday Night maing
Speaker 3: events stuff.
Speaker 2: Anyways, so plet's see the background review show, and so
Speaker 2: people are probably doing watch alongs for Sorry night, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. Yeah, we're having fun.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I'm getting more insight about you know, evil
Speaker 3: dose is a side of wrestling, which is.
Speaker 1: We get to ask some legal questions later, if we
Speaker 1: have any legal questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love when I meet people who haven't listened
Speaker 2: to me at all for the last seven years.
Speaker 5: So let's see where we left. Oh, we was promo
Speaker 5: with Trick promocause, and I wrote some things down, like
Speaker 5: Trick wants an apology for what he did to Little
Speaker 5: Yati last week. Thank god, no Little Yatti on this show.
Speaker 1: By the day, thank you. You don't like him being
Speaker 1: his uh No, I don't like him wanting.
Speaker 3: His best Jim Cornette thing instead of like.
Speaker 1: I think you even posted a Jeff other Jeff Jeff Goes.
Speaker 1: I think you said Trick is one of the last
Speaker 1: guys that needs a hype man. He doesn't need any man.
Speaker 2: And I'm fully aware of the little YACHTI and Trick
Speaker 2: of friends, and they wanted to work together and and
Speaker 2: I get that, And I know the w W can't
Speaker 2: resist having, you know, a celebrity in wrestling, although it
Speaker 2: almost never helps the numbers, and it hasn't in this case.
Speaker 2: Neither the jelly roll neither is Logan.
Speaker 3: I know you can't really strike the iron twice when
Speaker 3: the ceiling was the testing benchmark was what bad Bunny?
Speaker 3: And he's what multi platinum art is, multi Grammy winner. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just did the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2: They figured all South America, you know, and the America would
Speaker 2: start watching Noop.
Speaker 1: There's people that hasn't watched since Backlash Puerto Rico that
Speaker 1: was their one and only. They're like, I'm good one
Speaker 1: and none for me.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't bother with celebrities. You gotta make
Speaker 2: the wrestlers better if you want people to watch wrestling,
Speaker 2: and then like someone like a Mike Tyson who actually
Speaker 2: adds something to it, you know, or Dennis Robin who
Speaker 2: actually wants to be part of it, and to his credit,
Speaker 2: Logan Paul who actually wants to be something, he wants
Speaker 2: to be part of it as well. I don't like
Speaker 2: the guy, but he's I can't say he's not good
Speaker 2: at wrestling.
Speaker 1: It's the last little Yachties only heard none. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I just like Drake. I know Drake
Speaker 1: is a big name. I can't tell you one of
Speaker 1: the songs I ever.
Speaker 2: Honestly little yachty.
Speaker 3: As far as like in the hip hop side, it's
Speaker 3: pretty much this his only good music's like featured with
Speaker 3: an actual bigger artist though, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you were telling me that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what is his biggest song? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I haven't listen to any of his songs.
Speaker 2: Was he with Katie Perry and Migos and Slide? Was
Speaker 2: he one of the people on that? I think he was.
Speaker 2: I like that. That's so that's the I like that song.
Speaker 3: So Rick pretty much is upset at Baron brit He
Speaker 3: mellow comes out, what are the key key uh phrases?
Speaker 1: He said, He was like, I like, uh, I like
Speaker 1: it when you hold that belt tight around me because
Speaker 1: it looks it shows that you're scared of me taking
Speaker 1: that title. He's like, I like it when you hold
Speaker 1: that title tight around your waist when I come aroun
Speaker 1: because it shows you you see me. So, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did write that one. Yeah, I didn't write down all
Speaker 1: the lines though. And then Tricks, Oh this was this
Speaker 1: was the Nie Slapper though. He says Trick has never
Speaker 1: done anything on SmackDown. I mean Carmelo has never Trick said,
Speaker 1: Carmelo has never done anything on SmackDown. Wasn't he like
Speaker 1: a two time United States champion and had US Open challenges?
Speaker 3: Yeah, during the tail end of that two years that
Speaker 3: he was in ww main roster proper because honestly, like
Speaker 3: Melo has been a lose, he's been losing more matches.
Speaker 1: Didn't have the best of seven with Anddrate or was
Speaker 1: that somebody else?
Speaker 2: No, that was him and Andrede. There's a oh my god,
Speaker 2: A W.
Speaker 1: Street and Drade is so much better the second run
Speaker 1: around than they did the first run around.
Speaker 2: How you know?
Speaker 1: I love It's so stupid, but I love that phrase,
Speaker 1: how you know?
Speaker 3: And then he's what ham He's hamming it up to
Speaker 3: the women outside of.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I know they're playing, but it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I love it. That's the one thing I like about him.
Speaker 3: In AW versus WW.
Speaker 1: And we should this should be a Summer Slam match
Speaker 1: trick versus Carmelo Hayes. But WW likes to keep teasing us.
Speaker 3: They want to just keep We're gonna get Baron Corman
Speaker 3: shoved into the Summer Slam triple Threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the original triple threat should have had Ricky
Speaker 1: Saints in vaum and that should have been a night
Speaker 1: of champions. I agree. This is when they get smacked
Speaker 1: down in my This when they get raw on my SmackDown,
Speaker 1: they gotta show video packages.
Speaker 3: Rough, Well, you don't like your peanut butter and in
Speaker 3: your chocolate because you know, like Eddie always tells me,
Speaker 3: just end the freaking brand split.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know Netflix likes to has their superstars, and like,
Speaker 1: we always gotta have one network that has to say it,
Speaker 1: Just end the brand split.
Speaker 3: I think while watching Raw, I don't think SmackDown gets
Speaker 3: any nods.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think they have ended
Speaker 2: the brand split if the the difference between the brands
Speaker 2: at this point is just to have a little bit
Speaker 2: of a bench on each show. I mean, Royce Keys
Speaker 2: is a SmackDown wrestler. I believe he's in a Raw
Speaker 2: story right now because of the I mean Adam Pierce
Speaker 2: is you know, you know, on on SmackDown, so you know,
Speaker 2: they they do it routinely. I mean the usso seem
Speaker 2: to go wherever they want. So it's I don't think
Speaker 2: there really are strict brands anymore. They just use it
Speaker 2: when they want to. They don't pretend it's strict any longer.
Speaker 2: And again I think that's just what part of a bench,
Speaker 2: and that's what what lets them think that they can,
Speaker 2: you know, release someone like a Seamus or whatnot.
Speaker 1: Well, then don't make us care about a WW draft
Speaker 1: every year when one happens, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully there won't be one because I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody's cared for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, at least since that one. Remember when it's
Speaker 1: on Fox and there was like they showed that the
Speaker 1: Fox robot was cheering because they got Natty or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, and then somebody like draft Carmelo Hayes with the
Speaker 2: first pick that did a lot of him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the unproven guy who's five foot eight, Come
Speaker 2: come on, Sean Michaels, is that illusional?
Speaker 1: Something tells me that Jeff was never Daniel Brian Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson guy.
Speaker 2: That's like, uh, Brian won me over because because he
Speaker 2: showed me he wrestled in a way did he Basically
Speaker 2: he was a human cannonball and he he would wrestle
Speaker 2: the way it said he could overcome it, but he
Speaker 2: always knew he was fighting from even when he was
Speaker 2: the keel. It was it was just like I don't
Speaker 2: care a big you I know I'm the best, So
Speaker 2: it was it was fine, but it took a bit,
Speaker 2: but they didn't do that day one. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was one of the cronies in the Nexus, yep, and
Speaker 2: he was on the bottom half of the Nexus. He
Speaker 2: he was more on the Michael Tarvor part of the
Speaker 2: Nexus than he was on the on the Justin Gabriel,
Speaker 2: my friend PJ. Black, you know, and heat Slater, you know,
Speaker 2: that was the core. Those were the tough guys.
Speaker 1: You know, Jeff. Why couldn't she be friends with Rye Back?
Speaker 2: Because Rye Back is a total ass. But if you listen,
Speaker 2: I'm cheap. I I can be bought very easily. So
Speaker 2: Rye Back, if you want to be friends, just try
Speaker 2: and it'll be I'm sure to be very easy. I
Speaker 2: actually can get a law peel very very well. I'm
Speaker 2: very adapted. I try.
Speaker 3: I try very hard to avoid him, even though I'm
Speaker 3: in the same city as him.
Speaker 2: Listen, I already have something from the Nexus. PJ. Black
Speaker 2: is like my best friend. And but my other best
Speaker 2: friend is already bald and muscular, and that's mister Thomas.
Speaker 2: So Rye Back astly he's done in my life. I
Speaker 2: would have to wish him well in the future. Endeavors.
Speaker 3: So after the raw recap with Rock and Over, we
Speaker 3: get the second qualifier for the Winter Man. What a tease,
Speaker 3: I know, what a tease. Indeed, NI seen Jade and
Speaker 3: wet my whistle and then take it away that that
Speaker 3: match pretty much didn't exist at all.
Speaker 2: But I don't think about that picture on the internet
Speaker 2: that showed Naya like being about one hundred and eighteen
Speaker 2: pounds and then we saw her and she's still two hundred.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe she's not two hundred and fifty pounds,
Speaker 2: but she's still hundred and twenty five pounds. I mean.
Speaker 3: That was weight, but it wasn't drastic like that photo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that photo was a lie. The only thing real
Speaker 1: about that photo was the hairstyle she.
Speaker 2: Had, right, And she's pretending, She's like, I've really put
Speaker 2: the work in. She just said, that's not a real picture.
Speaker 2: I have lost weight, but I haven't lost that much weight. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only one that I think was real was that
Speaker 1: wedding photo when they all did the wedding, when was
Speaker 1: not Lash's wedding, but somebody else got married earlier this year.
Speaker 2: I think it was last okay, right, I mean it's
Speaker 2: like the picture they circulated see him Punk, where it
Speaker 2: looked like he had Brian Cage's arms. I mean, see
Speaker 2: him Punk looks like he worked out hard for five months,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't look like a different human being.
Speaker 1: This is uh for a guy who watched him punk
Speaker 1: when he did his come back in a w two
Speaker 1: and the two times he got Internet to come back.
Speaker 1: This is a repeating pattern of punk. He looks big
Speaker 1: and jacked when he's on the rehab mend, and then
Speaker 1: when he actually comes back, he goes back to normal
Speaker 1: looking punk.
Speaker 3: It's just the Internet inflating what he looks like.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, someone called the workout pump,
Speaker 2: and it's real.
Speaker 3: I know that, I understand. Yeah, yeah, you wonder why
Speaker 3: guys like do like the bicep curls with the resistant
Speaker 3: or going out there.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: It also pissed me off about this matches Naya Jack's
Speaker 1: got a job or entrance?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that should not put listen. I don't
Speaker 2: care who it is. Any non entrance on WWE TV
Speaker 2: is a blessing.
Speaker 1: No, only if you take away the long ones like
Speaker 1: Cody and jay Us and everyone They get to do
Speaker 1: a sing along with.
Speaker 2: Any of them is a gift straight from Horace, Marduke, Zeus, Yahweh, Jesus.
Speaker 3: And all every deity in.
Speaker 2: God who MAUI, whoever it is via Coacha, whoever it
Speaker 2: is that you worship, you know, the Redhorn. I don't
Speaker 2: care who it is, whoever it is, they have blessed
Speaker 2: you by not having any w WE entrance on television,
Speaker 2: wasting your time.
Speaker 3: So you get this match, and it's a match, and
Speaker 3: then Charlotte size to show up and beat up Jade's
Speaker 3: batties on the side.
Speaker 2: And and her kept popping up over her bra.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, we got to take the long route. We
Speaker 1: can't just come out and say, oh, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Jade and Charlotte slummerslam. No, we got to take the
Speaker 1: scenic roots. We got it, good old triple h. No,
Speaker 1: one's gotta be the scenic route.
Speaker 3: Would you be surprised if? I wouldn't be surprised. If
Speaker 3: fucking if Charlotte gets another the other spot, one of
Speaker 3: the other spots for the ladder match.
Speaker 1: I expect Jade to come out and in her because
Speaker 1: we'll find out a little bit that they made a
Speaker 1: match for next week, like a do over, but this
Speaker 1: time it's gonna be Nia Jackson Charlotte. I feel like
Speaker 1: Jade's gonna appear in that match is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So Jade pretty much wins by d Q because you know,
Speaker 3: Charlotte didn't remember, forgot the fact that this is a
Speaker 3: qualifier for the ladder batch. But she wanted her you know,
Speaker 3: ten pound of flesh for breaking Alexa's arm, even though
Speaker 3: we know that she's double jointed.
Speaker 2: H oh.
Speaker 1: People trying to point out, but the bruises, the bruises.
Speaker 1: You can make up somebody's arm with bruises if you
Speaker 1: really want to know. I don't know if that was true.
Speaker 1: It might have been true, and maybe you do get
Speaker 1: bruises when you even if you're double joints into it.
Speaker 2: And maybe she was willing to do it for the
Speaker 2: you know, for the sacrifice. It's easier than it's probably
Speaker 2: no more painful than taking you know, a figure eight
Speaker 2: or a back bump or whatever. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: not we all know that wrestling does hurt.
Speaker 1: Yep, Yep should have should properly take her out, though
Speaker 1: Jade should have did the penta armbreaker.
Speaker 2: I know, but aaker was terrible because I've only seen
Speaker 2: that look real like three times. I know, I know
Speaker 2: what's and I've seen it like three hundred times.
Speaker 3: Is not a good success, right, especially when you watch
Speaker 3: it on Luca Underground instead of repeating Factor during that time.
Speaker 1: So, how does how did the two Jeffs feel about Well,
Speaker 1: I guess I know how Jeff and feels. How does
Speaker 1: Jeff Litman feel about the state of Johnny Gargana right
Speaker 1: now and what he's doing in Cannicellarray.
Speaker 2: I'll see, this is the most interesting Johnny Gargano has
Speaker 2: been since he was an XT doing the way. I
Speaker 2: think Johnny Gargana would make a great manager. I think
Speaker 2: that I think that he would be a great coach,
Speaker 2: uh and trainer. Not so sure about an agent. Maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about it. But he is not a
Speaker 2: major league television wrestling He's just too small. He's too
Speaker 2: but he'd be a perfect manager because he can wrestle,
Speaker 2: he can take bumps, and he can he's funny. He's
Speaker 2: got a quick, sensive humor.
Speaker 3: So imagine if he was your manager at this state
Speaker 3: right now. It's sad Johnny, you have to push him
Speaker 3: out of the on.
Speaker 2: A well, I mean character. But as far as this,
Speaker 2: this is the most interesting he's been on w w
Speaker 2: E main roster television, with the exception of when he
Speaker 2: and Shampa first termed and they were being really clever
Speaker 2: in winning and retaining those SmackDown tag team titles like
Speaker 2: for three weeks. But after that, no, and that was
Speaker 2: that was the camelot. So yeah, this is fun. This
Speaker 2: is funny, even with Canvas is funny. And you know,
Speaker 2: Blake Monroe attacking her, I'm good with that too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Kanvas is a perfectly good natty. She's a perfectly good
Speaker 2: gatekeeper to lose, to lose a feud, or to lose
Speaker 2: matches to a new person to establish them as a force.
Speaker 1: When I quitted this too, like Blake Monroe, what she's doing, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys watched WCW ninety nine,
Speaker 1: I know that was probably rough to watch WCW ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Sid Vicious remember when he was power bombing people to
Speaker 1: break Goldberg streak. He wouldn't pin people, he just power
Speaker 1: bombed in all matches. I feel like that's what Blake
Speaker 1: Monroe's doing. She's just adding it namester her portfolio. But
Speaker 1: she's attacking the backstage without having to beat him in
Speaker 1: an actual ring. And this is only this has a
Speaker 1: shelf life. We can't keep doing on this, Like she's
Speaker 1: got to have a match soon. That's all I want.
Speaker 1: I just want to match.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna let her do the
Speaker 3: entrance that she does in NEC with the vanity mirror.
Speaker 1: I finally saw the one you were talking about. I
Speaker 1: played her in the video game and I saw the I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if they're gonna let her do that or
Speaker 3: she like sits down in front of like a makeup
Speaker 3: vanity set, kisses the mirror, but you know, the camera
Speaker 3: guys behind her while she's doing it, and then she just,
Speaker 3: you know, walks out to the entrance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna do that. And main
Speaker 1: Roster TV, I dare to pull that shit on Nijacks
Speaker 1: your last legend. I bet you she won't. No, She's
Speaker 1: gonna try. No her her axa grind right now? Is
Speaker 1: Julia any of the faces?
Speaker 3: Because I know she wants to beat up Charlotte at
Speaker 3: one point because her dear Diary promo videos that she's
Speaker 3: been doing before coming.
Speaker 1: Back, Tiffany and her almost look like sisters. So we
Speaker 1: can have that match or get.
Speaker 2: That out of the way.
Speaker 3: Kind of teasing that because I think they had a
Speaker 3: Twitch stream together.
Speaker 1: Oh God, some wrestlers that do some twitch streams, wo
Speaker 1: things get wild.
Speaker 2: So we'll take that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: But I have high helps for the former ae W
Speaker 3: champion now on ww t V.
Speaker 1: She'll be fine. Saniah Lash complaining backstage. It's nice to
Speaker 1: see Lash in her military outfit or whenever she was
Speaker 1: wearing and they were complaining. And this is where Nick
Speaker 1: Adam Pierce makes the match for next week. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a redo, but it's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Charlotte versus Noyah. There's there's no interference. I'll be shocked,
Speaker 1: but I'm protecting interference right now.
Speaker 2: Right because God forbid that they should do anything with
Speaker 2: Julia Blake Candace uh Keana.
Speaker 1: Was impressed me earlier this year around Chamber time when
Speaker 1: they later in the chamber and she had the Chamber
Speaker 1: qualifier and then.
Speaker 2: Kana James is really really good. They just never show it.
Speaker 2: I know she's not particularly over, but if they put
Speaker 2: her in the right match, she will so like uh
Speaker 2: like like elimination Chamber, like if she was in that match,
Speaker 2: people would see because she can really she can actually
Speaker 2: general matches like she's she's naturally smart and coordinated. Honest,
Speaker 2: the only thing that gives me hope for her is
Speaker 2: that Charlotte really loves her and that matters in this company.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they've have you seen the the videos of
Speaker 3: them like working out and having fun.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I hope. I haven't seen the
Speaker 2: videos of anybody doing anything, and so if you ask me,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I've never been on Twitch. I
Speaker 2: know I haven't seen videos.
Speaker 3: I deleted the same They are really friends in real
Speaker 3: life that see photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not making this up. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: that they're friends in real life. And I mean and
Speaker 2: that's why I want to go back to the year
Speaker 2: three thousand so that I can have multiple lives and
Speaker 2: they would be two of them. So I just have
Speaker 2: to dust off my ring of Solomon. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Match of the Night here coming up, Jeff. Match of
Speaker 1: the Night. War Raiders and Phraxium was not expecting this.
Speaker 1: Something bingo card for this for sure. You know, after
Speaker 1: weeks of just having war Radors with like goofs backstage,
Speaker 1: we finally have them a match. Hey, a novel idea
Speaker 1: And when you need a tag team to lose, who
Speaker 1: do you call you call Fraxium.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question. Was this match
Speaker 2: for the Triple A Tag Team titles? No? No, it
Speaker 2: was just an exhibition. Well if if if Phraxium was
Speaker 2: booked to lose, why didn't they just make it for
Speaker 2: the Triple A Tag Team Championship.
Speaker 1: They act like this is the silly part. They say,
Speaker 1: Priest in Truth are the next number one contenders for
Speaker 1: the Triple A Tag tingm time. They're gonna have a
Speaker 1: winner take all tag title for tech title. All they
Speaker 1: said was a future SmackDown. They didn't even say it
Speaker 1: was gonna be on Triple A.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that to happen. After how many weeks
Speaker 3: I've been waiting?
Speaker 2: How how hard is this? The Viking Raiders go, that's fine,
Speaker 2: but we don't have time for that, and and Truth
Speaker 2: and and Priests so busy doing other things. Priests is
Speaker 2: going to Triple A doing our territory. Truth is playing
Speaker 2: with the Knicks and Dan Hausen. We're not waiting for that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we want to defend. We're fighting champions. We're
Speaker 2: not the War Raiders for nothing. We want to fight tonight.
Speaker 2: And then Pierce goes, you know what Praxium isn't back.
Speaker 2: They're looking for a match. Also, you want contenders there.
Speaker 3: They played off a whole like, hey, I made a
Speaker 3: call to the raymis Cereal since he's the GM for Triple A,
Speaker 3: and he approved it. So it's gonna be a two weeks.
Speaker 1: We had Ray Phoenix defending the Cruiserweight title, then that disappeared.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen Ray Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Do you think anyone is coveting the war Raiders versus
Speaker 2: Damian Priest and our truth and title versus title. I
Speaker 2: know a little bit more if they saw a successful
Speaker 2: title defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that uh, that does bring up a good
Speaker 1: It should have been a title just a showcase, you know,
Speaker 1: and show like this is what you could see in
Speaker 1: Triple A, even though it's two vikings, well.
Speaker 3: Two groups of non loot stores.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's main event is running overtime. Now it is over.
Speaker 2: It's past ten, that's still going on.
Speaker 1: Well, since they're not NBC proper, I guess since they're
Speaker 1: on Peacock, they get allowed to overrun, right, they don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about the ten o'clock news or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the orb SNL or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and Jalen Brunson is on Roman Raine side,
Speaker 2: and Tyrese Halliburton is with Seth Rollins, even though Seth
Speaker 2: Rollins is acting facie and Roman is acting heally. But
Speaker 2: I guess Seth so that makes sense in this case.
Speaker 2: But still like, isn't this the story of two tweeeners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what blind bloodline is at this point.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're heal, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're faced.
Speaker 2: And I don't and like not that I care about
Speaker 2: what Seth Rollins is doing. I mean I've been saying
Speaker 2: Seth Rollins ruins everything for eight years now, maybe longer,
Speaker 2: but yeah, definitely longer. I mean back when he was
Speaker 2: with the authority.
Speaker 1: Uh but this.
Speaker 2: Again, this reliance with NBA players and and all this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get the and Madison Square Garden, but
Speaker 2: what anyway? Never forgot.
Speaker 1: Dan on stephen Ah Smith show. I was like, is
Speaker 1: there any there's nobody from basketball it's going to cross
Speaker 1: over and watch WB because Dan Housen. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody think. They're not going to do it.
Speaker 2: Bronton or Tyrese Halliburton. Caliburn has been on ninety two
Speaker 2: shows then nobody's Nobody's watched or Karl Anthony Towns from tonight.
Speaker 2: I mean, the crowd probably got a kick out of it,
Speaker 2: and it'll make it onto some news stations, but no,
Speaker 2: there's not an NBA fan in the world who is like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch wrestling because they were on you
Speaker 2: know who aren't already watching wrestling that you know, maybe
Speaker 2: like five year olds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember back years ago, I think it was
Speaker 1: when Dynamite was still on TNT and they had to
Speaker 1: lead in from a basketball playoff game and then everybody
Speaker 1: saw Jericho and they're like, damn, I haven't seen Jericher
Speaker 1: since the nineties. What the hell happened? Like all the
Speaker 1: basketball fans were like, they're all clown in Jericho.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well NBA Twitter would savage on them. But I mean,
Speaker 2: truth for the matter is is most of those people
Speaker 2: were gonna turn the TV off anyway, and the ones
Speaker 2: who stayed weren't at home. It was like sports bars, hotels,
Speaker 2: like like airport TVs that were all set to the
Speaker 2: basketball game and nobody's monitoring the TV for twenty thirty
Speaker 2: minutes until somebody says, hey, can you change this, you know,
Speaker 2: Buffalo Wowling's and whatever. You know, those were the leftovers.
Speaker 2: That's the difference between quarter one, quarter two, and quarter
Speaker 2: I mean then it started like there was like two
Speaker 2: point four million people and then there were they were
Speaker 2: like three hundred thousand people watching, like forty five minutes later.
Speaker 2: It was something ridiculous, but like like you know, a
Speaker 2: million and a half people left within an hour. I
Speaker 2: might be off of, but it was dramatic. But I mean,
Speaker 2: but this is not just a now problem. I mean
Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman, who was actually good in the nWo.
Speaker 1: They weren't.
Speaker 2: There were no NBA fans who weren't already watching wrestling,
Speaker 2: who were watching WCW bills of Dennis Robin. And when
Speaker 2: I say, folks, if you don't know me, when I
Speaker 2: say no or nobody or everyone, I don't actually mean
Speaker 2: that literally. It's hyperbolic. I mean, very few, not statistically significant,
Speaker 2: is what I mean. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you want to, you know, a Twitter moment of
Speaker 3: Roman Reigns holding the NBA Finals trophy, there you go.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic and seventeen point two million views on social
Speaker 2: media when there's seventeen point two million people watching Saturday
Speaker 2: Night's main event or WrestleMania or Raw World. Why they
Speaker 2: don't get seventeen point two million. They're now in three
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve million households throughout the world, and they're
Speaker 2: doing the same numbers. They're doing less numbers as the
Speaker 2: debut of SmackDown on Fox.
Speaker 1: Now, we're like what I always say, like, nowadays, the
Speaker 1: number is that wrestling is drawing. They're drawing AW on
Speaker 1: Sci Fi numbers, Raw on SmackDown basically or not sorry,
Speaker 1: ECW on side, ECW on Sci Fi, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: or on what or TNA on Spike yeah oho. Now,
Speaker 1: I guess TNA has fallen so far that they don't
Speaker 1: even crack the top one hundred.
Speaker 2: I know, I saw somebody on X today going, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know who they were talking about. I think
Speaker 2: it was Ricky Sos or whatever, and they go, this
Speaker 2: is why they've been spiking in the ratings, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: unless this is sarcastic, I just responded Spike with a
Speaker 2: question mark of course. I mean they haven't even ranked
Speaker 2: in the last two weeks, which means that their demo's
Speaker 2: under point O two. Now, I don't know I mean
Speaker 2: it's very possible that seventeen million point seventeen point two
Speaker 2: million people can can be watching and they're all over
Speaker 2: fifty five. But usually when you have a point oh
Speaker 2: two that that's something like one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: ish or less.
Speaker 1: So kind of what you Yeah, you usually get wrapped
Speaker 1: wrapped up the smack real quick. Then we'll get to
Speaker 1: the more conversation.
Speaker 3: So we got the Praxium war Raiders match. It was
Speaker 3: a good it was a good match, and then of
Speaker 3: course he got the war Raiders to win.
Speaker 1: You guys noticed that spot where Nathan Frazier got a
Speaker 1: little too about car care free and almost took a
Speaker 1: header into the announcer table.
Speaker 2: Yeah that scared me. That sign that up a little bit, buddy.
Speaker 2: He did take a header into it, but he I
Speaker 2: think he hit the soft under.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he could have been much worse.
Speaker 3: Yes, because they don't use the they don't use the
Speaker 3: Netflix table. Do they SmackDown shows because that Netflix table
Speaker 3: busted up?
Speaker 2: Uh table?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super sturdy table that they have for Netflix
Speaker 3: when they do the announcing to there.
Speaker 1: So I like how they finished the match. They did
Speaker 1: this tag team finisher like a power slam move like
Speaker 1: a trucking power slam move, and then they're ragnar double
Speaker 1: power bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess they're getting too old to do their other
Speaker 3: moves at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, personally, if we're trying to tell a story
Speaker 1: that war Raiders the dominant champions they are going to
Speaker 1: defend against, you know, the title for this should have
Speaker 1: been a squash match, but I guess they already did
Speaker 1: that that no finish so they can do too well
Speaker 1: matches like that, right.
Speaker 2: I'm actually fine with the match because the war Raiders
Speaker 2: are not particularly over, and again, it should have been
Speaker 2: a title match to make it feel like those titles
Speaker 2: are important and they're fighting champions and they're not going
Speaker 2: to wait for Priests and truth to be dilly dialing around.
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I don't know if it
Speaker 2: would have made the match more impactful, or it would
Speaker 2: have made the title versus title match feel more important,
Speaker 2: But I just don't see the point if the of
Speaker 2: not doing it you own both company, is it helps
Speaker 2: your champions. There's nothing wrong with having a great match
Speaker 2: against Praxim, which is a fantastic team. They're just undersize
Speaker 2: and so they should lose to, you know, especially a
Speaker 2: bohemoth like Ivar who's got no business being able to
Speaker 2: move the way that he moves, the way that he's built.
Speaker 2: I just you know, But the match was good and
Speaker 2: the crowd started to be bored, but they won them
Speaker 2: over because of this the skills in the ring, so
Speaker 2: you know, if you love if you love wrestling matches,
Speaker 2: then it was good. But again I didn't see the
Speaker 2: It felt like an exhibition match.
Speaker 6: On two hours of TV where the stakes need to
Speaker 6: be hot if you want people to be watching it,
Speaker 6: Like this could have been the match that that the
Speaker 6: people that pay tickets see, but isn't part of TV,
Speaker 6: which I assume that there are like at least four
Speaker 6: of those.
Speaker 3: Do they advertise anything Triple A Saturday or anything of
Speaker 3: that nature during that match?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, No, not that I noticed.
Speaker 3: Because if you're gonna do the opportunity of having you know,
Speaker 3: a non branded well it's part of WW but we
Speaker 3: it's a separate show. But having a separate show's tag
Speaker 3: titles like please promote the.
Speaker 1: Show, well, they try to do that. Phoenix defending the
Speaker 1: Cruiserweight title for two weeks in a row. Now we're
Speaker 1: two weeks off, So what are we doing in Phoenix now?
Speaker 1: I know, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They don't even have Dominic where the Triple A Mega
Speaker 2: Championship unless it's like a pl e.
Speaker 1: Oh I heard somebody say that, uh, Dominic and like
Speaker 1: people on the Triple A show should work two nights.
Speaker 1: This is on a Friday and Sunday. What do you
Speaker 1: think of that?
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. They should have, like.
Speaker 1: You should have multiple people work both triples. It called
Speaker 1: Triple Mania.
Speaker 2: Oh, the two night Triple Mania show that's coming up.
Speaker 1: They should work for some people, like Dominic should work
Speaker 1: Friday and Sunday or oh, Grande Americano should work Friday
Speaker 1: and Sunday.
Speaker 3: I know they broke it up because it's in two
Speaker 3: city because Triple Mania, one of the Knights is going
Speaker 3: to be here in Vegas and the other one's gonna
Speaker 3: be in Mexico. So I don't know how they're gonna
Speaker 3: pull that off.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do I think of it? If it
Speaker 2: makes sense? I mean, I'm always worried about if there's
Speaker 2: an injury, even if it's slight the wire. You're having
Speaker 2: someone work two nights between NXT Triple A the two
Speaker 2: WWE shows, and if you need people from TNA, you
Speaker 2: should be able to do it, you know, you know. Plus,
Speaker 2: I mean I have no idea who's on that Triple
Speaker 2: A roster that we've barely seen, or who's available as
Speaker 2: on a per DM basis or bringing people from Noah.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if it makes sense, it's important, okay.
Speaker 2: But I didn't particularly enjoy the WrestleMania where Roman worked
Speaker 2: two nights and Cody worked two nights. You know, I
Speaker 2: didn't think that that was great necessary.
Speaker 1: I think it was cool that one time accepted it,
Speaker 1: Like where he had to defend the US title at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the night and he had the world
Speaker 1: title at the end of the night. I thought that
Speaker 1: was kind of cool.
Speaker 3: I think that was during the time where he had
Speaker 3: that the statue segment was sting and all that time
Speaker 3: during that time, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1: I think he had defended at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: night against seen at the end of the night, that's
Speaker 1: where he kaot sting.
Speaker 2: You can't expect the guy whose slogan is seth rollins
Speaker 2: ruins everything to agree with them.
Speaker 1: Well, I come from a world where seth Ron's all
Speaker 1: right in my book, shitty character, terrific wrestler. Wrestling is
Speaker 1: his one redeeming quality. If he didn't have that, he
Speaker 1: would have no redeeming quality as all. Well, So yeah right,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, So we.
Speaker 3: Get September back on the back on the SmackDown train.
Speaker 3: H we got a punk and Cody singing backstage bake.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I feel like we should cover this because
Speaker 1: this is kind of SmackDown unless we lost our guys
Speaker 1: to raw the fanatic thefts thing that where we're getting
Speaker 1: the six man tag, we're getting uh Royce Keys solo.
Speaker 1: So Cola l A. Knight versus thought to you when
Speaker 1: the US.
Speaker 3: And Thrown Together matches get six guys into involved in SummerSlam, is.
Speaker 2: That the only way l A.
Speaker 1: Knight can fight the Bloodline now is worry because he
Speaker 1: did the six man tag at WrestleMania, didn't they Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: He was on the Bloodline team though against against the
Speaker 3: Vision with I Show Speed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god about that, and he made an appearance
Speaker 1: to find of all the w B favorites made their
Speaker 1: appearance at the Fanatics and oh blessed ww's heart. They're
Speaker 1: still trying with Tom Brady. Bless you guys, Bless your hearts.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady probably won't ever work for you guys in
Speaker 1: the wrestling ring, but you can keep doing these little
Speaker 1: online videos. You keep doing that.
Speaker 2: M hm, I don't know.
Speaker 3: QB one meets QB one, the Cody Show, the Cody Podcast.
Speaker 2: Sub chat. I know I've been ignoring you, but I
Speaker 2: got very distracted when I look at the chat and
Speaker 2: don't pay attention to the show. I'm I'm not a
Speaker 2: trained professional like these guys are. We got Lively one
Speaker 2: Saturn's made event ended.
Speaker 3: Oh Chris, Chris brought a good point. Yes, he needs
Speaker 3: to go away. You know, I think I think wrestling
Speaker 3: super condition. You guys too bad to hate Seth Rowlans.
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 2: Haeins before I was watching them listening to wrestling, So
Speaker 2: don't try to make it Steves Jeff.
Speaker 1: I know you.
Speaker 2: I know I didn't. I didn't listen to podcasts until
Speaker 2: the earliest was like twenty twelve, but it didn't get
Speaker 2: into any wrestling podcasts until the earliest was probably twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: and I was already sick of Seth Rollins in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the John, that's that's exactly what I mean. Listen,
Speaker 2: there have been times I liked it when you had
Speaker 2: aop behind it. I like some of the stuff with Ko.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like it's all been terrible, but
Speaker 2: it's mostly been terrible his voice at the j Jan Listen.
Speaker 2: I watch NWA on comment every week and not everything
Speaker 2: is terrible, but it's mostly terrible. Bless their hearts. They're trying, though,
Speaker 2: are they? Though? I defy you to watch it for
Speaker 2: four weeks in the row and oh, I would like
Speaker 2: you to watch it for four weeks row and come
Speaker 2: back and tell me if you think that they're really trying.
Speaker 3: The only way you'd make me watch that watch NWA
Speaker 3: post Nick all this is if you like, strap me
Speaker 3: down on a chair and then have those like little
Speaker 3: needle things like.
Speaker 2: I am not opposed to doing that, but what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make you do it is to do it
Speaker 2: now for the purposes of YouTube. Show. So you watch
Speaker 2: it for four weeks and we come back and we
Speaker 2: do one of the special shows so that those cheating
Speaker 2: minorities reports can't go on every show and cock block
Speaker 2: me the night before my big debut and come on
Speaker 2: and and we have something wrestling related to talk about
Speaker 2: that is not smack down. Uh. And and you both
Speaker 2: watch four weeks of nw A. Listen, one of you
Speaker 2: watches n W A, one of you watches MLW, and
Speaker 2: come back and compare and contrast your experience as good
Speaker 2: or bad as they are, and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we'll have my little experiment. We'll watch a
Speaker 1: W for four weeks and we'll come back and we'll.
Speaker 2: And I quit a W over two years ago. I
Speaker 2: got I have my my tip, I have my coin,
Speaker 2: I have I have sponsors. I'm not going back to
Speaker 2: that dark place. I'm not sure I can climb out
Speaker 2: of that hole again.
Speaker 1: We get a press pass, chef, you could start taking
Speaker 1: none of the press conferences.
Speaker 2: You can press pass. Yeah, I will. I will sell
Speaker 2: myself for a press pass. What's left of it? So listen.
Speaker 2: WWE is so bad. There there have been times that
Speaker 2: I've thought about watching Dynamite, not not also Collisions.
Speaker 1: But Dynamite, Yeah, Collision. I wish it was just on
Speaker 1: a different because Saturday is a hard one because everybody
Speaker 1: in their mother's on set like tonight, everybody in their momthera,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much m m A, boxing, wrestling, like
Speaker 1: everything's on Saturdays.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm proud for you East Coast fans that
Speaker 1: you know, get to watch on a Saturday and you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about staying up late on the Sunday.
Speaker 1: But I don't like. I feel like Saturdays should be wrestling.
Speaker 1: Sundays should be wrestling. Saturday is boxing, and m m A.
Speaker 2: With every form of entertainment is every goddamn day. And
Speaker 2: I mean the thing about Peacock is now they have
Speaker 2: an obsession the movie, and I would like to watch
Speaker 2: obsession that that, to me is something that I would
Speaker 2: like to do, and I would like to do it
Speaker 2: at night because it's sort of supposed to be a
Speaker 2: horror movie, and horror movies are better at night night. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I can only watch someone my wife isn't around
Speaker 2: because she doesn't like horror movies. So now I can
Speaker 2: because she's off like a couple of her son get
Speaker 2: resettled or whatever she's trying to do with him. And uh,
Speaker 2: and I got freaking wrestling on all the time.
Speaker 1: And then when they pull you back and then you
Speaker 1: had to start at MLW, they pulled you out and
Speaker 1: they got I thought you were mad at MLW because
Speaker 1: I thought they got rid of.
Speaker 2: Your boy, and then you're like, I am mad at MLW.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that that I'm giving up on it. Listen,
Speaker 2: if Thomas isn't giving up on them, I'm not giving that.
Speaker 2: He's the one that that. I mean, he's not. He's
Speaker 2: a professional. He knows how the business works. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm disappointed because you know, I enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's not my best friend just because
Speaker 2: he was in MLW. He's my best friend because he's
Speaker 2: my best friend because we did best friend things like,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff.
Speaker 1: I wish I had best friends in wrestling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he once bought me a drink and then
Speaker 2: complained about how expensive it was. Oh no, even though
Speaker 2: he said that's from the top row. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the top row, and then later he said I
Speaker 2: got it, and then he's been complaining about it for
Speaker 2: seven months. But that's what best friends do. I mean,
Speaker 2: I didn't say buy me a drink. I was prepared
Speaker 2: to buy my own drink.
Speaker 3: He was the one person who bought the upper tier
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker and didn't realize what the price was no.
Speaker 2: I got it was McCallan eighteen, and I absolutely realized
Speaker 2: what the price was. What I didn't realize is that
Speaker 2: he was going to pick up the check. I mean
Speaker 2: that was not that, that was not any arrangement. He
Speaker 2: was there with friends. They were they were having their
Speaker 2: after dinner drinks, so I came to mean them for
Speaker 2: a drink. I didn't think anyone anyone going to pay
Speaker 2: for my drink. I didn't even hope it. But you know,
Speaker 2: he did a friend, and I think he likes complaining
Speaker 2: about it because he's grumpy. And then I like him
Speaker 2: complaining about Now I can complain about him complaining about
Speaker 2: which makes me happy.
Speaker 3: So we can gloss over all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Way, he's he's very big in person. Well, my sudden
Speaker 2: son met him. He goes, I didn't realize how big
Speaker 2: in jacked he was. I'm like, well, he's pretty slim jacked.
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, no, he's big and jack. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're right, but my best friend is big in jack
Speaker 2: and my son hates Sampunk by the way, said he
Speaker 2: worked with him at c FFC and that he was
Speaker 2: a Sampunk always made everything about him including out of
Speaker 2: dinner where the world champion was there and Sampunk was
Speaker 2: still making everything about.
Speaker 1: Him sounds like punk. The only reason he's changed now
Speaker 1: is because he gets everything he wants now pretty.
Speaker 2: Much, including aj Lee, I mean, on the show, on
Speaker 2: the TV show, getting in an intercontinental title and even
Speaker 2: though she can't wrestle at all any longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's fine doing her stuff and mental health stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with her doing that. I don't need her
Speaker 2: across the crossover wrestling soup the only thing I had
Speaker 2: I I almost had a heart attack on because, like
Speaker 2: you know how Joey hates pretty much everything. He actually
Speaker 2: praised a couple of matches between Becky and aj Lee,
Speaker 2: and I thought those were like some of the worst
Speaker 2: matches I've ever seen on TV before. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: on that kind of biggest, biggest age, I'm like, Joey
Speaker 2: like those.
Speaker 3: Joey doesn't like anything, doesn't have a soft spot for
Speaker 3: Becky though in the fire, remember he does.
Speaker 1: I think he does. That's the because he was also
Speaker 1: talking about the Becky and Maxine feud with like talking
Speaker 1: about good about it and like, oh Maxine good, this.
Speaker 2: Be Becky's good. This is not about Becky. I mean,
Speaker 2: she did the best she possibly could. I'm saying a
Speaker 2: j Lee can't wrestle. I'm not saying Becky can't wrestle.
Speaker 2: Becky wrestles really really well. Becky's really good at this.
Speaker 2: I think that you give her like kind of wais
Speaker 2: her down though.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think Becky has the same problem as her husband.
Speaker 1: She can put, she can have people win their feed,
Speaker 1: but she can't put no. But like she'll put people over,
Speaker 1: but it never doesn't amount the ship.
Speaker 2: She's not Brett Hart. She can't make Tom McGee look great.
Speaker 2: I mean she's not. Yeah, yeah, most because she's not
Speaker 2: physically strong enough to do it. I mean, if if
Speaker 2: she had the strength of like Jay Cargills, she probably
Speaker 2: could make even a j Lee or or Maxine Dupre
Speaker 2: look great. But you know that that's that's just not it.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So you like our Dan House's stigma, Jeff, you're to
Speaker 1: talk about it next.
Speaker 3: We can skip it because it was a nothing burger.
Speaker 3: It was very pretty much just talking about him and
Speaker 3: his master.
Speaker 1: What was the reason? No way we had Jackie Redmond again?
Speaker 2: Why not? I'll give you a hint that for tonight
Speaker 2: because he brought out a stuffed cat, saying that was
Speaker 2: his backup.
Speaker 1: And that was.
Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns and they were at MSG with the
Speaker 2: knicks and the whole thing.
Speaker 3: So he threw a He threw a stuffed cat in
Speaker 3: a cage and a nicked jersey into a box for
Speaker 3: the cloning cloning machine.
Speaker 2: And he listen, he's not that like that quitter Victor
Speaker 2: von Frankenstein. He is. He is refining his technology.
Speaker 1: Is he equipment like when had his inventions? That's pretty
Speaker 1: much what I feel like it is. Oh my god, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen all the episodes either, but.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen any of the episodes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you lived through t g I F and
Speaker 1: you didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't like when TGF was a thing. That was
Speaker 2: when Jeff was going out on Friday nights. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: for you. Actually, I had a real social life compared
Speaker 2: to us. I know, I'm sure my social life is
Speaker 2: still so. But you would pretend and drive around and
Speaker 2: hope to run into cool people, or go to the
Speaker 2: diner and hope that you might see girls, or whatever
Speaker 2: the case was. But I wasn't watching ABC comedies for
Speaker 2: twelve year olds. Yeah, like I didn't. I didn't watch
Speaker 2: Perfect Rangers, I didn't watch Step, but I didn't watch
Speaker 2: Family Matters. I mean, I know they exist. I'm sure
Speaker 2: I saw them periodically on reruns from time to time,
Speaker 2: but it's not it wasn't like part of my like
Speaker 2: Thursday night comedies on NBC in the eighties, like Family
Speaker 2: Ties and Cheers and Wings and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, Hill Street Blues, and you know the Prestige dramas,
Speaker 2: the La Laws, the Saint Elsewhere's the thirty somethings. I
Speaker 2: mean that that's that's my era. Now. The exception is
Speaker 2: nine o two and oh and Melrose Place never missed
Speaker 2: an episode that was my mother's era. God remember your mom?
Speaker 2: That was those are good times?
Speaker 3: Oh no, anyways, you were named after me, and they
Speaker 3: skipped that. Uh we skipped the Dan Housen thing. Surprise
Speaker 3: he won. If you didn't watch that in the night's
Speaker 3: main event.
Speaker 2: You weren't gonna.
Speaker 1: They were curssed.
Speaker 3: So we get a finally gun throughing Cody Yes again for.
Speaker 2: The fourth time in two months.
Speaker 3: I think Maybeah closing out SmackDown, which really didn't mean
Speaker 3: nothing because that match got thrown to the wayside when
Speaker 3: I came out try to help, We'll try to support Cody,
Speaker 3: and then we get a surprise appearance from Sammy and
Speaker 3: told him.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to support. He said, you stay back here, bunks,
Speaker 2: like I'll see you out there. Yeah, it's like duck season,
Speaker 2: rabbit season. That's uh, that's the funny.
Speaker 3: When when is punk ever said no to anything or.
Speaker 1: How any times? If I bitched on this show Jeff
Speaker 1: about wrestlers not listening to wrestlers and coming out and
Speaker 1: interfering anyways, that's.
Speaker 3: Like running pretty much all of our truth during his
Speaker 3: time when he was hurt with.
Speaker 2: The tag titles.
Speaker 1: Mean, we could even go back to Bailey and EO
Speaker 1: Sky when they were splitting up damage to drill Bailey,
Speaker 1: don't interfere in my matches. Bailey, don't interfere in my matches.
Speaker 1: Bailey kept interfering.
Speaker 3: So this match got pretty much just thrown out the
Speaker 3: wayside because all of the competitors start, you know, each
Speaker 3: of the tag teams started beating up each other.
Speaker 1: But hey, what did I tell you, Jeff? I was
Speaker 1: afraid they were going to bring out a new T shirt.
Speaker 1: They already got a new T shirt out. It says
Speaker 1: Justice for Sammy. You'll buy it. I know you will.
Speaker 1: I would if it didn't cost me all fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not paying fifty bucks for another shirt. It's forty
Speaker 1: something for the shirt in like eight to nine bucks
Speaker 1: shipping and handling.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why you buy multiple shirts so you can
Speaker 3: get the free shipping and handling or use their percentage
Speaker 3: off code nights or whatever when they have those special knights.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, someone of us shot buy my shirt?
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody please. I'm side as fat as fuck.
Speaker 3: An honestly side note though, on a when he was
Speaker 3: here in Vegas and we went to w W World,
Speaker 3: he could not find his size for any shirts that
Speaker 3: were there. Unfortunately I wanted to buy him, but he
Speaker 3: was so upset when I started making shirts up for myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Could you still ever gonna? You wore your GTA live
Speaker 1: in a dominic shirt yet? Oh?
Speaker 2: What I wore last week?
Speaker 1: During my D and D night session on Tuesday, I
Speaker 1: wore My Samy's ain shirt out. And when I went
Speaker 1: grocery shopping then I got a couple of looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, people like does his shirt really say that
Speaker 1: he's the last real good guy. Yeah, I think myself.
Speaker 1: But you made it through this recap of SmackDown Jeff.
Speaker 1: Now he can do like after banter.
Speaker 2: I guess, okay, it so as opposed to when why
Speaker 2: Chocolate and I did show and he said pre show banter,
Speaker 2: pre show banter. This is like sort of post show
Speaker 2: oof banter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would do a post post show where we
Speaker 1: stick around when the thing ends, if you want to
Speaker 1: do that, if it's not too late, but.
Speaker 2: I know my rights go the time and a half
Speaker 2: at that point.
Speaker 1: Fucking lawyers, man, I swear to god, it's.
Speaker 2: Just Maryland overtime loss.
Speaker 1: You don't speaking of lawyers, you didn't have the Why
Speaker 1: is it that your favorite guy, Don TONI had more
Speaker 1: facts about the A W lawsuit than you did.
Speaker 2: H Tony. But if I remember Don Tony, he'll claim
Speaker 2: that because he's in the insurance business, that that gets
Speaker 2: access to the courts, which I mean, if it's so,
Speaker 2: that's really not what it's supposed to give him access for.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to give him access for things that have
Speaker 2: to do with potential customers or claims, but most of
Speaker 2: the things in the courts are public information anyway, So
Speaker 2: really anyone should be able to get them. Why does
Speaker 2: he have more access, Tobius? He does like what a
Speaker 2: show a day or something, and he cares more about
Speaker 2: these every little thing about these cases than I do.
Speaker 2: I don't like I'm interested in the intersection of law
Speaker 2: and wrestling, but that doesn't mean that every little thing
Speaker 2: you know needs to becovered. I mean, I find it
Speaker 2: interesting that aw is now has filed two lawsuits seeking
Speaker 2: money from places they're probably never going to get the
Speaker 2: money from, one against Triller and one from this indie
Speaker 2: production company. Obvious indie production companies bank go bankrupt and
Speaker 2: trailers clearly going back aankrupt. But maybe they're banking on
Speaker 2: someone buying them out. I am not someone who says, ooh,
Speaker 2: you're a billionaire or the son of a billionaire, while
Speaker 2: you're going after this kind of money if you're so successful.
Speaker 2: First of all, successful companies don't let money go, and
Speaker 2: if they do, they take a write off. And to
Speaker 2: take a write off, you have to show that you
Speaker 2: tried to pursue it first before you write it off.
Speaker 2: That's in the tax code. So it all makes sense.
Speaker 2: So I have no problem with them going after it.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: I think people will take these sort of strange stances
Speaker 2: don't live in the real world. I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: a successful company and nobody pays you, you're not going
Speaker 2: to be successful very quickly. I mean, imagine if AW
Speaker 2: booked these venues and didn't pay the rent, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: book them again. I mean the other in any even
Speaker 2: what I find significant about the suit, and I am
Speaker 2: this is slightly tinfoil, but I think it's educated tinfoil,
Speaker 2: is that by AW finally suits looking for financial stuff,
Speaker 2: they are making a fair game for their financial information
Speaker 2: to be part of discovery, either directly or indirectly, which
Speaker 2: is something that they thought tooth and nal against before.
Speaker 2: They always want to put things in arbitration, so does WWE,
Speaker 2: so does everyone. There's an arbitration provision. But even the
Speaker 2: Moxley case with the outside cameraman, which is not covered
Speaker 2: by arbitration, they actually tried to move it to the
Speaker 2: federal Court of Illinois. And when Illinois said, what's the
Speaker 2: jurisdiction in Illinois? Nothing happened here, nobody's here, And they're like, well, actually,
Speaker 2: our parent companies twice removed are two trusts that are
Speaker 2: formed under the laws of Illinois, and the court's like,
Speaker 2: we'll show us, and they're like, oh, we'd rather not,
Speaker 2: so we'll go back to Detroit County whatever. The county
Speaker 2: in Michigan was state court, so they voluntarily withdrew from
Speaker 2: that because they didn't want to reveal that kind of
Speaker 2: essential information. And they also recently filed motions in the
Speaker 2: Nick Nemeath I'm sorry, Ryan nemmth case, I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: They file motions to seal their contracts and other papers
Speaker 2: as being proprietary and confidential information. On the court's like,
Speaker 2: you can redact confidential information like personal information, but the
Speaker 2: terms of your contract are not confidential. Contract. Contracts a contract, dude,
Speaker 2: and it's and it's part of the suit. So the
Speaker 2: contracts and there's other information that's coming out. So they
Speaker 2: they've lost that and and so I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's because they lost them they said screw it, but
Speaker 2: they filed triller before the Ryan Nemmath result. What it
Speaker 2: tells me is that there they know that the truth
Speaker 2: about their finances are going to come out sooner or later.
Speaker 2: They know that Paramount is not renewing them, that the
Speaker 2: reports that the Warner Bros. Discovery and or Paramount told them,
Speaker 2: we're not renewing you at the at at option time,
Speaker 2: so you know, do what you need to do. Is
Speaker 2: consistent with the fact that now they're on t B.
Speaker 2: Now they're not just on Max, they're on all these
Speaker 2: other platforms as well. You know, exclusivity was a big
Speaker 2: part of the rumored dollar amounts. So now they don't
Speaker 2: give an f they're you know, they know it's gonna
Speaker 2: come out. And so now they're they're you know, they're
Speaker 2: gonna do what they need to do to either you know,
Speaker 2: collect their money or be able to take lawful ride
Speaker 2: offs and not just absorb it any longer because the patina,
Speaker 2: the imprimiture of it actually being a real business is
Speaker 2: that that's popped, you know, and maybe and soon enough,
Speaker 2: maybe even for the faithful of the faithful. With my
Speaker 2: my real tinfoil theory set to the side, which is
Speaker 2: they put everything under the Ring of Honor you know
Speaker 2: category which is a separate LLC, and so many expenses,
Speaker 2: so everything goes under a ring of honor, has like
Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollars in losses, you know, and aw
Speaker 2: you know, has like you know, shows twenty five million
Speaker 2: dollars in expenses. But I you know, side topic. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry to cut you off. Did I even answer the question?
Speaker 2: I mean, kind of, why don't I know as much
Speaker 2: as don Tony I.
Speaker 1: I made funny about, I've made fun of I've actually
Speaker 1: made fun of him in the chat. Let him know
Speaker 1: this that, Yeah, I think you kind of use those
Speaker 1: powers a little bit, DT when you look up.
Speaker 2: Listen, I have a I was always more of a
Speaker 2: Kevin fan than a down Tony fan. And I'm glad
Speaker 2: they made up, and I'm glad they they they were
Speaker 2: legit friends. But you know, I was never a down Tiger.
Speaker 2: But if Dontni wants to talk to me about legal stuff,
Speaker 2: I don't mind someone else. I mean, I don't have
Speaker 2: the time to go into the details of a of
Speaker 2: a contract dispute. I'm more interested in the big picture stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, there were there were, there are cases that
Speaker 2: intrigue me and I want to know more about. But
Speaker 2: I'm looking. But I'm more interested in the big picture aspects.
Speaker 2: And I think I just laid out what I think
Speaker 2: the big picture aspect of that one is. Sorry, Jack,
Speaker 2: separate topics. Since we were talking about Paramount.
Speaker 3: Since you were talking about Paramount, what's the scope right
Speaker 3: now with the Warner Paramount deal at the moment, because
Speaker 3: I'm like hearing little facts.
Speaker 2: Here and there.
Speaker 3: But are they still in negotiations or they're being blocked
Speaker 3: by some other entity at the moment.
Speaker 2: The deal is final, the deal, there are several state
Speaker 2: state attorneys generally, yeah, they will fail. This happens all
Speaker 2: the time. This is a federal matter. The federal government
Speaker 2: has already ruled, and it might delay it by a
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, California theoretically has the biggest standing
Speaker 2: to do so because so much of the entertainment industry
Speaker 2: is based there. But the truth of the matter is
Speaker 2: the California itself, through some of its own policies or
Speaker 2: lack of subsidies and whatever. I mean, while a lot
Speaker 2: of the entertainment industry is based there, a lot of
Speaker 2: people are based there. California itself has chased away more
Speaker 2: of the entertainment industry than a consolidation.
Speaker 3: Of Oh no, I'm not with that, especially with them,
Speaker 3: Like some of these shows are filming in like Georgia now.
Speaker 2: And Croatia and New Zealand and Canada, and you know,
Speaker 2: and in New Orleans and in Baltimore and in anywhere
Speaker 2: other than California. But that I mean that argument may
Speaker 2: or may not be relevant. The real argument is probably
Speaker 2: that this is FCC, this is federal territory. It's none
Speaker 2: of you gone to business, you know. And and I
Speaker 2: think they're also going to the counter is also going
Speaker 2: to say, well, you're saying there's less competition, but but
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Discovery was worth six dollars a share and
Speaker 2: losing money. So one of these studios was going to
Speaker 2: go away anyway, So isn't it better that that it
Speaker 2: survived in some way, shape or form. And of course
Speaker 2: they're all going to lie and say, listen, we're gonna
Speaker 2: try and build and expand the platform together, which is
Speaker 2: not the place they're going to consolidate like everything else does.
Speaker 1: Uh, Look what happened when HBO and just what was
Speaker 1: that one that TLC and all the Garden shows used
Speaker 1: to be on. That was that one network when they
Speaker 1: when HBO Max bought them and then a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff got left out and even get put on
Speaker 1: HBO Max.
Speaker 2: I mean that this is this is what happens in
Speaker 2: any merger that you find efficiencies. When t KO and
Speaker 2: UFC and then WWE urged under t KO, a lot
Speaker 2: of the staff of both companies got let go. They
Speaker 2: don't need two accounting departments, they don't need to marketing departments,
Speaker 2: they don't need two IT departments, they don't need to cybersecurity,
Speaker 2: they don't need sales and you know they're gonna I
Speaker 2: mean this, this is the way, This is the way
Speaker 2: of the regardless of you know, administration, Republic Democrat. When
Speaker 2: is the last time that you've ever heard of one
Speaker 2: of these major mergers being blocked? I will tell you
Speaker 2: it was Spirit Airlines was not able to merge with
Speaker 2: Jet Blue. Spirit Airlines ended up going out of business
Speaker 2: a few years later, which was earlier this year. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if they probably would have sunk Jet Blue
Speaker 2: with them. I don't, so it probably is just as well.
Speaker 2: But that is the only merger that had not gone through,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't say that the result of that merger
Speaker 2: being blocked seems to be a success. We don't live
Speaker 2: an alter timeline. We know the alternative, but we do
Speaker 2: know Spirit Airlines no longer exists. Why did they why
Speaker 2: did they call this a hostile takeover? Bid.
Speaker 1: When Paramount did this, why did they call it? Why
Speaker 1: was the wording like that?
Speaker 2: Well, hostile takeover is when the one company isn't seeking
Speaker 2: to be bought that another company end or its prox
Speaker 2: season allies by so much stock and so much interesting
Speaker 2: investment that they have that they can force a vote
Speaker 2: of not just the board but also shareholders sway the
Speaker 2: voting the other way. Yeah, and then the board sort
Speaker 2: of usually goes with the winds blowing whichever way looks
Speaker 2: like it's going to be the more profitable. Listen, I
Speaker 2: know that everybody was saying it wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 2: But the second Larry Ellison or his son, because I'm
Speaker 2: sure his son made the decisions. David Ellison hired Trump's
Speaker 2: former SCC commissioner. Jeez, that was game over that day
Speaker 2: and I and I tweeted it. And that's the day
Speaker 2: Nick Piccolo Piccolo liked one of my tweets starting our romance.
Speaker 2: But you know, and and that's what happened. And but
Speaker 2: that's what a hastile takeover means. It means that the
Speaker 2: one the company is not seeking to be absorbed. Nevertheless,
Speaker 2: the stock that was six dollars is now what twenty
Speaker 2: three sixty. So if you invested in W the stock
Speaker 2: when I was six dollars, like I did, and if
Speaker 2: you held it now, you have quadruple your money. I
Speaker 2: didn't hold it to now. I I always do. I
Speaker 2: always get worried, you know, you know after about five
Speaker 2: dollars a game that I'm going to lose my game.
Speaker 2: But I made a little money, but not a lot
Speaker 2: of money. But I you know, I went with it's
Speaker 2: too big to be allowed to fold. Someone's going to
Speaker 2: buy it. And the funny thing is, what little I
Speaker 2: know about Hollywood from a few people I know, a
Speaker 2: few podcasts I listen to, is that the long standing
Speaker 2: joke in Hollywood is that Paramount Studios is always for sale,
Speaker 2: and it probably is right now too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother had he lost his job a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and his bosses got fired shortly after that,
Speaker 1: and there was mass layoffs from Paramount, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they decided they wanted to give a
Speaker 1: couple of billion to south Park and a couple of
Speaker 1: billion to UFC and other buying Warner Brothers, And it's like,
Speaker 1: how did they all of a sudden become big big competition.
Speaker 1: Where did all this money come from?
Speaker 2: Thanks, I am convinced that allow this economy is just
Speaker 2: boosted by not because of any fundamentals and actually any
Speaker 2: belief in any of these business models. It's just money
Speaker 2: moving around. People get commissions and are an interest on
Speaker 2: money moving around, and it's like the national death doesn't
Speaker 2: matter anymore. Neither does this. It's just the underpinnings don't matter,
Speaker 2: so they make up whatever the bubble blow is. Most
Speaker 2: social media, these companies are worth eleven trillion dollars now
Speaker 2: it's forty four trillion dollars. No, it's not now AI
Speaker 2: or you know, robots, whatever, the next thing, whatever the
Speaker 2: next thing is now. For a doomist, I'm definitely a
Speaker 2: doom sayer. The one thing I actually do believe is
Speaker 2: that the space economy is sort of like a seafaring economy,
Speaker 2: Like I think it's like Portugal in fourteen twenty. So
Speaker 2: I do think that could bail the world out. Whether
Speaker 2: or not you think we're redoing exploitation and colonialism over again,
Speaker 2: you know, is another question. I mean, I guess at
Speaker 2: least we don't know that there's life in the in
Speaker 2: these places that we can get to So I guess
Speaker 2: there's that. But you know, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're
Speaker 2: gonna start. They're gonna be like these thirty or forty
Speaker 2: year plans where you could harvest asteroids that have sixty
Speaker 2: trillion dollars worth of you know, lithium and cobalt in them.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the entire world might not be worth sixty
Speaker 2: trillion dollars. And yes, when you find that much, the
Speaker 2: price of it goes down, but still it's gonna be
Speaker 2: worth a ten billion dollar investment over forty years to
Speaker 2: bring that stuff back.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, especially when those two elements are used in
Speaker 3: every tech that we use.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. How ones there is palladium? And I
Speaker 2: mean so a lot of things are called rare earth
Speaker 2: metals that really aren't rare at all. It's just it's
Speaker 2: really difficult and really smelly to get them and refine
Speaker 2: them and smell them. It's really really unpleasant, but they're free.
Speaker 2: But there are other rare earth like gold is not
Speaker 2: every time a volcano erupts, gold is spewn all over
Speaker 2: the goddamn place. Lithium isn't that rare, but but there.
Speaker 2: But there are things that were only came out of
Speaker 2: the Big Bang at least as far as we know.
Speaker 2: And that is rare. But it's rare on Earth. It
Speaker 2: isn't rare in the universe. And there happens to be
Speaker 2: an asteroid belt. That's you know that it's between us
Speaker 2: and Jupiter. H No, we gotta we gotta do a
Speaker 2: not SmackDown show with you next time. Well, I'm interested
Speaker 2: in and then you know the stuff like stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So if you like conversations like this, you should at
Speaker 2: least give Guarden a thought that a chance. Not every
Speaker 2: episode is going to be for you, not every episode
Speaker 2: is for me, but but you're going to find things
Speaker 2: you like and listen to a double speed. No one's
Speaker 2: telling me you listen to me at one at number
Speaker 2: one speed. I can't listen to me at number one speed.
Speaker 1: I can't listen to anything at two times speeds. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how people do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. My add or whatever is like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I can't do I think one point five is the
Speaker 3: most I can do.
Speaker 2: But well, you just have to train yourself. You start
Speaker 2: at one point two five and then for a week
Speaker 2: and then you go to one point five and then
Speaker 2: then you and you just go and it's you get
Speaker 2: used to the voice. Like I can't do it with
Speaker 2: the Eastern border. The host is from LOPI and his
Speaker 2: accent is too strong for me to go to two.
Speaker 2: But I can do one point seven. You know at
Speaker 2: this point there's other shows where the points are like
Speaker 2: I'll miss it if if I rush through it, but
Speaker 2: like I can do it at one point four. You know. So, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know everyone's different, but I assure you I
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I have a D D or
Speaker 2: O C D or whatever, but you know I've got
Speaker 2: something too. We all something. I'm pretty sure that everyone does.
Speaker 2: But I I'm pretty sure that one hundred percent of
Speaker 2: wrestling fans have something that's diagnosable. Otherwise we wouldn't be
Speaker 2: wrestling fans into our adulthood, at least adult wrestling fans.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll just say aid A w w
Speaker 1: B allround. It's a very special fan base. That's it.
Speaker 1: I'll use very special.
Speaker 2: We're all very special. Like I'm not I'm not calling
Speaker 2: everyone else crazy. I'm I'm I'm part of the everyone else.
Speaker 2: I'm it's not everyone else I'm part of that everyone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm part of that mix to admit that
Speaker 1: you need shoulders with wrestlers.
Speaker 2: I know he's our He's our Kevin Bacon connection I have.
Speaker 2: I have rubbed shoulders plural only with one, my best friend,
Speaker 2: mister Thomas. I mean a few. But it's not like
Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna meet PJ Justin Gaybriel PG.
Speaker 2: I was going to meet him next month, but that's
Speaker 2: still out. I'm not sure that I'm ever going to
Speaker 2: get to that point piece. I'm not sure the PJ
Speaker 2: can find the requisite number of other people to commit
Speaker 2: to it. And I'm not even sure he's like he's
Speaker 2: doing some things too. He's like very busy, and he's
Speaker 2: very mysterious about what he's busy with. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's something I very much financially cannot afford to do,
Speaker 2: but I think from a story for the rest of
Speaker 2: my life and in this phase of my life, I
Speaker 2: couldn't afford not to do it either, right, So I'm
Speaker 2: sort of happy that that decision might be taken off
Speaker 2: my plate. But yeah, it was to go forward, I
Speaker 2: would have to pass a shaman's test and then I
Speaker 2: mean I don't know that. I have no idea what
Speaker 2: a shaman's test is, so I don't know if I
Speaker 2: meet their spiritual needs or the you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know that my heart is healthy enough for whatever they
Speaker 2: you know, jungle juice that they you know, I osco
Speaker 2: whatever there. You know, we're thinking of you and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, rainfollowers rooms or whatever.
Speaker 1: Before I wrap it up with shout outs because it
Speaker 1: takes me like more than five minutes to get through shoutouts.
Speaker 2: How was your only legal question in the aw suit? Like? Why?
Speaker 2: And I as good as Dontoni? No, I got another
Speaker 2: legal question you I'm not as good as don Tony
Speaker 2: is the best? Fingers up, I acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this click was back to him sent it to him.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: What has there been any new news since Janelle's grants
Speaker 1: legal team decided they wanted to go to arbitration? Also,
Speaker 1: as ever since you were on Sports Jedi Network? Has
Speaker 1: there been any new news that have comeing out since then?
Speaker 2: Ever since they quote wanted to end quote no, not not,
Speaker 2: not not even a little bit court date? Well, you're
Speaker 2: not going to hear about a court date. There'll be
Speaker 2: an arbitration date, but you'll not hear about it because
Speaker 2: it's confidential arbitration. But the one thing everybody was sure
Speaker 2: it was going to lead to a quick settlement. Well
Speaker 2: it's been what five six weeks, that's not a quick settlement.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So you know, Vince went through a lot.
Speaker 2: Whatever you think about him, a lot of shit came out.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's a bad pun, non intended, but a
Speaker 2: lot of bad things came out, whether you believe them
Speaker 2: or not, and you know, to impugne what was left
Speaker 2: of his reputation. Some of this made it into the
Speaker 2: mainstream world. I mean, the mainstream world doesn't know about
Speaker 2: Christy Hemy or you know, Reader Chatterton or Jimmy Snooker.
Speaker 2: They don't know about any of that. They might remember
Speaker 2: the steroids trial, they don't care. They assumed that people
Speaker 2: took steroids. This was a little bit different. It got
Speaker 2: lost in the shuffle of the entire Epstein class thing
Speaker 2: and our Kelly and Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and you know,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump being president frankly, but still he went. He
Speaker 2: thought about this for a long time, and he really
Speaker 2: didn't have to. He could he could have thrown money
Speaker 2: at this. A lot earlier, so it in private. I mean,
Speaker 2: what makes anyone think that he's not going.
Speaker 3: To h all I can say is when we u
Speaker 3: when we get to that point where let's say, r
Speaker 3: I p to him like I'm not wishing his death
Speaker 3: or anything, but the cats out of the bag at
Speaker 3: that point, and we'll find out more probably unfortunately one
Speaker 3: one day.
Speaker 2: We will, but I don't know from who. I mean,
Speaker 2: the chances are the Janelle Grant's going to live a
Speaker 2: whole lot longer than Vince, so her her her story is.
Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing that might be a sticking
Speaker 2: point in the selmon is maybe there you know, there's
Speaker 2: probably gonna be another NDA, but I bet it's expanding
Speaker 2: to movie. Wright's book writes TV rights any sort of
Speaker 2: publicity of any kind, podcast, and any any kind of
Speaker 2: media exposure disparagement, including current technologies and technologies of the
Speaker 2: future that we can think of. No AI recreate recreations
Speaker 2: of events or or narrations.
Speaker 3: I don't need an AI recreation of that.
Speaker 2: Well there, I'm sure there's a market for it, but
Speaker 2: you know, especially if you cast her with Megan Fox.
Speaker 2: But uh uh, but anyway, No, there's been no there's
Speaker 2: been no other news, except that the no news tells
Speaker 2: you that there's there hasn't been a confidential settlement, because
Speaker 2: if there was a settlement, that would be announced by
Speaker 2: the parties just just to close the door on it,
Speaker 2: just that there was a settlement and they would both
Speaker 2: claim victory.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get your plugs out of the way first, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Thank you, special, thank you for having me on your show.
Speaker 2: Sorry I hijacked and spoke so much. But you know,
Speaker 2: us podcast hosts, we sometimes forget there were guests, not hosts.
Speaker 2: On The Mighty Wrestling Soup. I do the Legends of
Speaker 2: Future Great review show with Lifisto. We reviewed. We recorded
Speaker 2: episode eleven today and we are well aware there were
Speaker 2: two weeks behind, and we're planning to due episode twelve
Speaker 2: tomorrow so that we'll be all cut up for LFG
Speaker 2: episode thirteen. And I am.
Speaker 3: Sure I did not know that that new French guy
Speaker 3: that with the luchador mass was on that show. I
Speaker 3: didn't know he was part of that.
Speaker 2: He was for a coffee, for a cup of coffee,
Speaker 2: And the part of our ongoing and mostly my complaints
Speaker 2: about this season is that we already knew what happened
Speaker 2: to too many of the people that were on the show,
Speaker 2: as opposed to in past years where truly they were
Speaker 2: new contestants and whether they were good or seasoned or
Speaker 2: green as grass, we did not know what their fates
Speaker 2: were going to be. And when half the cast is
Speaker 2: released before show or the other and you know, another
Speaker 2: significant percentage we've seen on Evolve or NXT or Triple
Speaker 2: A since then, you already know what happened to him, So,
Speaker 2: you know, I think that has a deleterious effect on
Speaker 2: the show. But our review is good, and that's on
Speaker 2: the Wrestling Soup Big Boy feed. Occasionally I do shows
Speaker 2: on Wrestling Super FRIANDOS where people can find this very
Speaker 2: show you're listening to, Garden of Thought. You can also
Speaker 2: find on the Wrestling Soup website. But Garden of Thought
Speaker 2: has its own audio feed and YouTube channel at Garden
Speaker 2: of Thought Pod, and it's also on the Sports Jedi Network,
Speaker 2: which is right now the Sports Jedi Media Network on
Speaker 2: YouTube as they try to get Sports Jedi Network regular
Speaker 2: on YouTube. But Sports Jedi Network is also on several
Speaker 2: other platform Twitch, x, Rumble Kick, I'm sure that there's others, Instagram, Live,
Speaker 2: that there's probably others I don't even know about. The
Speaker 2: MLW files with my best friend mister Thomas. On that show,
Speaker 2: Me and Kevin Cruz, the founder or one of the
Speaker 2: founders of Sports Jedi, do an NXT review show generally
Speaker 2: five or ten minutes after an XD goes off the
Speaker 2: air Tuesday. Well, generally we've done all of one episode,
Speaker 2: but we planned to do it going forward at that time.
Speaker 2: I sometimes do a Garden of Thought on Wednesday nights
Speaker 2: around six or six o five on Sports Jedi. Those
Speaker 2: are live streaming. My own. My versions are just audio.
Speaker 2: It's the same exact show, though, and sometimes I do
Speaker 2: a show called Out of Character, which has sort of
Speaker 2: taken the place of Book a Black or Gospel of Thomas,
Speaker 2: where I talked to either people in wrestling about non wrestling,
Speaker 2: but we've also expanded it to other things. So Vinnie
Speaker 2: Pacifico came on and he who's an indie wrestler. He's
Speaker 2: also an actor. He's been a lot of horror movies.
Speaker 2: And he brought an Amber Brook who's an actress who's
Speaker 2: been in a lot of horror properties. And she was
Speaker 2: on and she was great, and now she's going to
Speaker 2: be a guest on Garden of Thought in the coming
Speaker 2: I think next month, and Vinnie Boko but he couldn't
Speaker 2: appear on the show. A guy named Matt Probanzano who's
Speaker 2: worked on the Terrifier franchise. He was an editor. He's
Speaker 2: one of their trusted editors. He's pretty sure I'll be
Speaker 2: working on the Terrifier franchise going forward. He's done a
Speaker 2: lot of other stuff as well. He's been he almost
Speaker 2: worked with Ringo's star in a video. He placed high
Speaker 2: in a Staten Island film festival, and he's now he's
Speaker 2: private financing an independent film which he calls a combination
Speaker 2: of good fellows. Meet Ratitui. And that's the ad of
Speaker 2: character podcast. I'm sorry to go on so long, but
Speaker 2: I do. I was actually trying to do less things,
Speaker 2: but now that my wife is on this excursion, I've
Speaker 2: had a lot of time on my hands and a
Speaker 2: lot of ideas.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't that the joke a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: like you like, I used to have three thousand podcasts,
Speaker 1: but now I don't. I'm like, you're back with three
Speaker 1: thousand podcasts, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like Michael Corleone but it's not even they. It's
Speaker 2: like it's just when I brought TechEd myself, I brought
Speaker 2: I dragged myself back in. But what can I say?
Speaker 2: I'm an attention whore. I like the attention one day.
Speaker 2: One day, I'm going to be successful this and the
Speaker 2: day after I shall die.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yes, well I want to keep you around.
Speaker 3: I need another jet for my life.
Speaker 1: I tried to put up the graphic for your shows,
Speaker 1: but they weren't turning on when I wanted to. When
Speaker 1: they did turn on, sorry, they were kind of small.
Speaker 1: They were like the screenshotted version for my cellphone.
Speaker 2: Y fine, dude, man, that's fine. You guys have been
Speaker 2: more than generous and more than patient with my bulls.
Speaker 2: That a question.
Speaker 1: Alex conkitounk am I even saying his name right, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's puw f right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he also with Jedi Network too?
Speaker 2: Like? Do they collaborate friends? The friends they're they're they're
Speaker 2: not actually collaborating maybe yet the word yet maybe can
Speaker 2: can can be there, but actually his his partner. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they're married. A boyfriend girlfriend up a
Speaker 2: cardim she was a guest on Guard And I thought
Speaker 2: once before she thought the show was titterally about divination
Speaker 2: that we talked about a lot of other things as well.
Speaker 2: And Alex is gonna be on tomorrow, and and you know,
Speaker 2: sort of like a little gnostic matrixy, like, you know,
Speaker 2: what is reality? I have a I need to find
Speaker 2: out if the gnostics are correct, and if the fundamental
Speaker 2: list of correct, then we're living in a firm moment
Speaker 2: and the matrix is correct. And now we're building a
Speaker 2: real matrix with AI. Will they have a fatal four
Speaker 2: way match to determine which is the real fake reality. Yes,
Speaker 2: I promise that's my last word. I'm gonna leave you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it on that.
Speaker 3: You go next as a Jeff All with my my
Speaker 3: one plug love my uh love, my real life friend
Speaker 3: who's also a YouTuber. Uh let's see where's my notes
Speaker 3: for her? Oh yeah, so I have a friend in
Speaker 3: real life that is a budding youth YouTuber. If you
Speaker 3: don't know what a YouTuber it's it's pretty much just
Speaker 3: a virtual avatar.
Speaker 2: You know, does a that you know use as like a.
Speaker 3: Little puppet pretty much, and her voice is coming out
Speaker 3: of that puppet. If you look up youtubeing it's pretty
Speaker 3: much what it is. They rig up a digital model
Speaker 3: and they have it in the corner of like a stream,
Speaker 3: and you're interacting with the model. You're not in, you're
Speaker 3: but it's her pretty much acting against the model. So
Speaker 3: my friend Sylvia Verbina lamb chop and yeah, but you're
Speaker 3: not seeing that. You're not seeing this, You're more of
Speaker 3: seeing like the camera's actually like so it would be
Speaker 3: like town.
Speaker 2: Wrestling if you see Marvin and and.
Speaker 3: Yeah the movie Monster mm hmm pretty much, but it's
Speaker 3: not a puppet. It's more of a digital puppet. Oh
Speaker 3: that that's more anime esque.
Speaker 2: So it's like Roger Rabbit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of like that. It goes down a
Speaker 3: rabbit hole if you start looking up YouTubers. But pretty much,
Speaker 3: she's a YouTuber personality. She does, uh, let's play video,
Speaker 3: let's play game alot on video game plays like.
Speaker 2: Her Avatar hot.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't judge her like.
Speaker 1: That because oh yeah, it's anime and it's hot.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, so much. Yeah absolutely, I mean come on,
Speaker 7: come on, yeah her, I mean on a scale of Siren,
Speaker 7: it's main event.
Speaker 3: Is it Lyra Valkyrie or is it like page hot
Speaker 3: page hot all.
Speaker 2: Right, now you're selling the show. You're welcome. You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Jeff Usso's friend page hot more colorful. If page goes
Speaker 3: more colorful, that's pretty much how hot she would be.
Speaker 3: She does like righty stuff. Yeah, she her in real life.
Speaker 3: She has a really good singing voice too, and she
Speaker 3: does like karaoke streams too sometimes, but most of her
Speaker 3: you know, bread and Butter is just playing playing video
Speaker 3: games on the side and then just streaming along with
Speaker 3: the audience.
Speaker 2: Hot video that's hot at hot anime? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: if I have a Cryptonida, it's it's anime porn.
Speaker 3: So oh no, she'll talk about it probably, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe she can be my friend too. I don't
Speaker 2: like antai actually, I like regular anime porn.
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in the monsters.
Speaker 2: Off the rails.
Speaker 3: But that's my one plug, you know, Silver Verbina.
Speaker 2: She's on YouTube.
Speaker 3: If you want to subscribe to her to watch her videos,
Speaker 3: her shorts.
Speaker 2: The pupa can call me out on the real it's
Speaker 2: not cheating an avatar.
Speaker 3: I have best I am also best friends with her
Speaker 3: boyfriend in real life too, so she is.
Speaker 2: Problem for me. And they did you problem, but not
Speaker 2: any problem. But yeah, support her.
Speaker 3: You know, she's a trying to be She's a budding
Speaker 3: artist trying to get her wings. So, as they say
Speaker 3: in this digital world, well that's my one plug.
Speaker 2: I get to do the other twelve.
Speaker 3: But we kind of did him with Jeff since he
Speaker 3: is part of our since he is update chunk.
Speaker 2: Of our.
Speaker 1: People that you guys don't even care about. But I'll
Speaker 1: get to the people that we do care about that
Speaker 1: you guys do care about. First, d r w C show.
Speaker 1: Chocolate's riding solo for these next few weeks until Reals
Speaker 1: comes back from Simon.
Speaker 2: Uh what see in Afghanistan again?
Speaker 1: Maybe I think he might be finalized in the Wrestlingia
Speaker 1: deal with the Saudis.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought maybe he was laying the groundwork at
Speaker 2: carg Island doing the wet work.
Speaker 1: Oh no, so catch him chalk for now and Reynolds
Speaker 1: will be back every Wednesday in the either the Wrestling
Speaker 1: Soup Discord or YouTube.
Speaker 2: Leave no chalk behind, leave no chalk.
Speaker 1: Behind, no shock, no shock gets left behind, and the
Speaker 1: uh sorry I just said to your Wrestling Soup there
Speaker 1: there are fathers of this, our grandfathers. And if there
Speaker 1: are fathers. That makes Jeff Usso the uncle, I guess
Speaker 1: or not Jeff Newsso Jeff Littman is the No, I
Speaker 1: would not be the uncle, sir. I'd be that you're
Speaker 1: both the uncle. I want both of you. Both of
Speaker 1: you can be my uncle. Jeff Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they have definitely the podcast grandfathers. But I'm older
Speaker 2: than both of them. Miss is always saying I'm right
Speaker 2: there with you. I'm like, I'm more than ten years
Speaker 2: older than you. Stop it. He's like, I'm like, are
Speaker 2: you forty five? I think he's like forty six.
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of grandfathers in the chat tonight,
Speaker 1: like Chris Matthews and Temporal and like Ether, You'll always
Speaker 1: be temporal to me. I know you changed your name
Speaker 1: of Ether, but you'll always be temporal.
Speaker 2: Chris Matthews, who lives in Baltimore, and we've pledged to
Speaker 2: never actually see each other.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can see Minor Report usually Saturdays. But
Speaker 1: because Max and his wife he's got a girlfriend. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he's got a girlfriend. His wife goodby today Guma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had a birthday today. So they're doing Minorities Report tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So his wife and he had to be with his
Speaker 2: girlfriend tomorrow night. So yeah, yeah, trouble like that, like that,
Speaker 2: so yes.
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Speaker 1: Cancer sucks. They have insurance, but medical expenses. Canna be
Speaker 1: a bitch. And this is not like some wrestler that's like,
Speaker 1: oh I need go fundme. This is a legit. This
Speaker 1: is a legit friend of a show.
Speaker 2: Yeah I.
Speaker 1: Did. I did three times, mister, so I did do
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh the audience, Yeah, be a little, the
Speaker 1: audience a little.
Speaker 2: Your audience, not mine.
Speaker 1: I'll remember that next time in my God in the thought. So,
Speaker 1: if I'm leaving anybody out, I'm sorry. I feel like
Speaker 1: I am leaving. I always feel like every week I'm
Speaker 1: leaving somebody out. I always say I'm gonna write down
Speaker 1: the list of plugs, and.
Speaker 3: I don't you should one of these days.
Speaker 1: Because the audio version of our shows and of most
Speaker 1: of Jeff's shows on the Wrestling Soup and Friendos feed.
Speaker 2: What what I told you missed a million years ago
Speaker 2: that they didn't do is you should just record it
Speaker 2: then just instart it in so you don't have to
Speaker 2: think about it every time.
Speaker 3: We should use that advice time.
Speaker 1: I know somebody that did that one time back when
Speaker 1: I used to listen to a guy named Rich Dow
Speaker 1: and he he looked like you saw at a gunpoint
Speaker 1: while he was doing it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you do say now, Oh the one uh
Speaker 8: Spitball Media, UH wrestling super lum John Draper, who's making
Speaker 8: a return to his alum for the Summer Slam Review.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll do both nights. I think
Speaker 1: Soup can usually just get him for one night when
Speaker 1: it's the two night events. But uh Spitball Media every Wednesday,
Speaker 1: UH four point thirty pempt Civic seven thirty pm, Eastern
Speaker 1: pop culture movies, game stuff like that, and then again,
Speaker 1: don't miss John Draper's return. It was Alumni Wrestling suit
Speaker 1: to recap SummerSlam Night one or night two. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure yet, maybe both. I don't think he's have to
Speaker 1: do both. I want him to review an A W
Speaker 1: show one day, to.
Speaker 3: Be honest, I went to I went to one wrestle
Speaker 3: went to.
Speaker 2: I think it contributed mightily to their Patreon for that.
Speaker 2: I think that that was just called media Patreon exclusive.
Speaker 1: Joey Numbers know, like, Okay, you went to a W
Speaker 1: at Boston. Bare Knuckles gonna have an event Finway Park.
Speaker 1: You should go see bare Knuckle.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, how come we even get a special Joe
Speaker 2: numbus a solo show on his review of the A
Speaker 2: Is a W Experience.
Speaker 1: I figured he was probably on Frank and Guss.
Speaker 3: Yes, either, Frank probably talking about it right now since
Speaker 3: they're doing a recap show.
Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, if we're competing with firm that he
Speaker 2: got he not just got into AW, but he got
Speaker 2: out alive.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming because yeah, he was there for Franken Gus.
Speaker 2: So I work throwing Frank and Gus. But but but
Speaker 2: that's not what Discord doesn't give me notifications anymore anywhere
Speaker 2: near actual time. I mean, like the DMS, like I'll
Speaker 2: get reasonably proximates sometimes in real time, usually not, but
Speaker 2: it's you know, like a few minutes delay, like I
Speaker 2: got your message, like why aren't you here yet? But
Speaker 2: I got it like ten minutes after I was already here.
Speaker 2: But like like everyone Franken Guss is live now, Like
Speaker 2: sometimes that comes like two days later.
Speaker 1: I'm like what, yeah, no, I know his discord be
Speaker 1: weird like some you know, a YouTube messes up notifications sometimes,
Speaker 1: like sometimes your notifications on YouTube will beyond and some
Speaker 1: days they're even if you have it on all. Sometimes
Speaker 1: YouTube will miss notifications.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well I get from YouTube, okay, like seventeen
Speaker 2: notifications for the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh no, well you gotta watch that now. Because
Speaker 1: some people do the dual streams, they do the horizontal
Speaker 1: in the vertical, so you get two notices. Now, have
Speaker 1: you dabbled them? I don't think you guys dabbled into
Speaker 1: that yet. I don't think you have right not.
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, dude, I haven't touched my actual YouTube channel
Speaker 3: since ever.
Speaker 2: No, I'm waiting. I'm waiting to for the sexy avatar
Speaker 2: to contact me. Then I may dabble with YouTube.
Speaker 1: So she's spoken for. You're smoking for you spoking for
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Nothing that's permanent this listen. I've been I've been married
Speaker 2: thirty seven times.
Speaker 1: Nothing's permanent, So you're the podcasting when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's just this century.
Speaker 1: Were they all or they all have Latina descent?
Speaker 2: No, But in fairness to me, a good portion of
Speaker 2: my marriages was before there was such a thing as
Speaker 2: Latin fair fair before Beringia. I mean all all Latins
Speaker 2: except Spain and Portugal, and I guess Italy if you
Speaker 2: want to call Latin, which most people don't, but that
Speaker 2: is flat. I mean they're Asians. All first nations people
Speaker 2: are from Asia.
Speaker 1: I guess we could, we could keep this going forever,
Speaker 1: but I guess we better wrap it up.
Speaker 2: I can, I can, I can. I can bullshit forever.
Speaker 2: I can bullshit a bullshitter. I wisht me is my
Speaker 2: is my old man bladder? Oh No, I don't even
Speaker 2: get hunger anymore. I'm on the heel of monster g
Speaker 2: LP medicine, so I barely got hunger. Hm. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be so skinny in the year. You gotta go on
Speaker 2: the Keto diet, like I know know, I talk to
Speaker 2: my doctor, I said, we both know that I'm not
Speaker 2: going to diet and exercise myself into the you know,
Speaker 2: out of this situation.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, you're right, I should have the nerve
Speaker 3: to do that next time I do a visit.
Speaker 2: Well, I already inject myself with hum era for rumtorid arthritis,
Speaker 2: So what's another injection and plus all the heroin. But
Speaker 2: but you think that would make me skinnier.
Speaker 3: No, it's usually this, sir.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do controlled substances unless they prescribe
Speaker 2: by a doctor.
Speaker 1: You put in those long nights at the firm.
Speaker 2: No, I have a very controlled legal I love my job.
Speaker 2: My hours are very controlled. I could not work for
Speaker 2: four or five days in a row, and when I
Speaker 2: come back, I will have no more work for me
Speaker 2: that day. Come back then then if I had not
Speaker 2: missed any days, it's I have a wonderful, very unique
Speaker 2: kind of job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is the dream. We're definitely gonna have
Speaker 1: you back again at some point.
Speaker 3: No, maybe not, maybe not reviewing as SmackDown like we
Speaker 3: do every week.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. If your your friend's boyfriend beats you up, right,
Speaker 2: will I wouldn't be surprised. He listens to the show
Speaker 2: just on general principle. I'm only kidding. Jeff Usso's friend.
Speaker 1: If you want any chances or you would call her
Speaker 1: Sylvia for one, I'm.
Speaker 2: Definitely I mean, I'm definitely not calling her Sylvia. I
Speaker 2: mean I might.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Veloteen dream, say my name.
Speaker 2: Sah, yeah, breaking.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go live one day, Jeff So. She
Speaker 1: usually does pre recorded for shorts.
Speaker 2: WO have her on the show so she can put
Speaker 2: over her own show and do it with just the avatar.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't figured out how to do
Speaker 2: that yet, but we'll we'll.
Speaker 3: I will talk to her about that and we'll figure
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 1: And the Bird and her sidekick Bird. So yes, she's
Speaker 1: gonna lay down temp world. It's very late for you,
Speaker 1: very late for everyone. I don't know on the East coast.
Speaker 1: I still got a whole night of g c W
Speaker 1: ahead of me on the West coast. Here.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's committed.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'm two hours behind g c W for
Speaker 1: you guys tonight, Thank you, thank you for making me
Speaker 1: be here.
Speaker 2: W fans. He really needs a co host. He really
Speaker 2: wants to do a g CW podcast and I want
Speaker 2: him to also, but a I'm not going to watch
Speaker 2: g c W m B part lie. I don't need
Speaker 2: to be doing any more podcasts. I'm gonna say I
Speaker 2: don't want to do any more podcasts, but probably a lie.
Speaker 2: But but I don't need to and I'm not watching
Speaker 2: more wrestling. If anything, I want to watch less wrestling.
Speaker 3: I love my brother in arms, but I can't watch
Speaker 3: c c W like that.
Speaker 2: It's it's not more wrestling.
Speaker 3: I love Shatzi, I have to like my uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I love Roady for my Filipino side.
Speaker 2: But shots is a MLW. She's the women's champion right
Speaker 2: now and she comes to m c W every month,
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know shot shots around It's you
Speaker 2: don't need g c W to see shots.
Speaker 1: I know, but this is where you can see SHOTSI
Speaker 1: wrestle the men, I.
Speaker 2: See women wrestle men. Isn't something no, it's it's uh.
Speaker 1: I think GCW is only want to give a pass
Speaker 1: for that. Really, Okay, Yeah, I didn't like him when
Speaker 1: he had tested.
Speaker 2: I'm judging anyone else. I mean my friend Chawsa McKenzie
Speaker 2: like her, you know her weekends are spent beating up boys.
Speaker 2: But it's it's outing and against it. It's just I
Speaker 2: don't find it particularly entertaining as a regular thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: anything that looks okay every now and then, everything in moderation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's beating up boys. I'm all for that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe one of these days will just drag me to
Speaker 3: watch a g c W p l E.
Speaker 1: I made the guys in sup Discord watch a GCW
Speaker 1: backyard show.
Speaker 2: They'll watch it.
Speaker 3: If they watch a backyard wrestling with the Tennessee Boys,
Speaker 3: they'll do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Chocolate and Reynolds, they're they're they're a
Speaker 2: little particular in their non particularity. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Oh, they really loved Tennessee backyard wrestling. Have you ever
Speaker 1: listened to their interviews when they interviewed people? Is a
Speaker 1: really good interviewer.
Speaker 2: Let me say something right here. Unlike YouTube guys, I
Speaker 2: listened to every single show on Wrestling Souper and Friendos,
Speaker 2: every single one that drops, I listen.
Speaker 1: To it, even my own, every single one. Have you
Speaker 1: listened to all twenty two episodes of My and My Predictions?
Speaker 2: If it dropped on Wrestling super and Friendos?
Speaker 1: The answer is yes, yes, I don't know when I
Speaker 1: when I threw that Easter egg in for you about
Speaker 1: this guy hit a better hits a bad spear, like
Speaker 1: as bad as Jay Us, and I was sure comment.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I memorized every podcast I said,
Speaker 2: I listened and you already heard I listened to them
Speaker 2: at two double time speed. So I and you have
Speaker 2: a host a co host there named Jeff. So if
Speaker 2: you reference Jeff my my, my first instinct is gonna
Speaker 2: be you're talking to him and not about me, especially
Speaker 2: since most people in the podcast world called me do
Speaker 2: or dose evil or evil dose like. Nobody calls me Jeff.
Speaker 2: And it's fine that they do. It's just it's confusing
Speaker 2: in this particular context, and that there is a Jeff
Speaker 2: here they were talking about.
Speaker 1: Huh. I feel so confused today. Yeah to Jeffs not
Speaker 1: enough time.
Speaker 2: It's like that movie The Two the two Jake, except
Speaker 2: it's the two Jeffs two Jeffs. We can argue about
Speaker 2: raparian rights in Los Angeles County, but we've rambled long enough.
Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out guys in the chat.
Speaker 1: Just let me know are you gonna leave as soon
Speaker 1: as I clicked end or are you gonna hang on
Speaker 1: for a little bit?
Speaker 2: What do you want me to a little I'm not
Speaker 2: promising more than five or ten minutes, but.
Speaker 1: I just like it when you know we say goodbye
Speaker 1: and okay bye, I see you next time. Last time,
Speaker 1: my gardener thought it was like out.
Speaker 2: We were just spend the last half hour doing plugs
Speaker 2: and goodbyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got I'm a long good buyer, and
Speaker 1: I got a hug and got out a good cry
Speaker 1: and make.
Speaker 2: A freaking Italian wedding and never ends by side gazy,
Speaker 2: you know what. I'm not waiting to an Irish but
Speaker 2: I'm already at home. I came late, I'm gonna leave early.
Speaker 2: That's fair. It's very fair, symmetrical.
Speaker 1: Wash your meats, love Buddy the dog Kiss Candy had
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Guys, it's