Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the November nineteenth
episode Audition twenty twenty five. Tress told you I'm your
host of press Now as usual here on a Wednesday,
not much to talk about today. I got an evergreen topic.
Because you can see if you're clicking on this, I
talked about this before. I can't remember what rabbit hole
we went down at some point. I think it's when
we're looking at the Batman fan casts and we've started
to talk about other ones. I hope Peel that almost
did so. That okay, good evergreen topic. I thought I
had more so today. Usually I have it that if
you are a patron or sending a super chat, I'll
read what the comment is if you want to say
whatever you want, go ahead today because who knows even
go a full hour, because that's the first time now
that we don't have the five TV shows going in
movie reviews, we got a weekly Geek two Trest holds You,
and then the newscast. Luckily tomorrow newscast, we got the draft,
we got what we've been watching. But when it's just
us four, we can we could I've we've just overed
the last year, but especially this year as far as planning,
so we're like, oh, what do we talk about. There's
so many times when we do what we've been watching,
that could be a show right there. So that's tomorrow
apmpsc the whole boys back together. That'll be fun time.
But yeah, that's what's gonna happen. That's where I'm gonna
try to see. Obviously we need our surveys and whatnot,
but I'll see. We'll get to the end of the
year and see now a little bit through I don't
know November and December what trash Toy does if I
still want to do it twice a week. I did
have some more evergreen topics, but I think I've deleted
them somehow, so I have to take a look at them.
So if anyone has anything in the future, let me know.
But yeah, you're talking about some Batman stuff. Got a
couple of questions from God sixty nine on the Patreon
and I guess I shout out that right now. Patroon producers,
thank you very much for being at that top tier.
Excuse me, April Darkness, Aaron, Brad, Jack Grant, Sam super Bad, Mike, God,
those sixty nine, Charlie Randal Cocktail, Clay Jonath, no h
and Sam Green. I just realized it was I think
on the side, quest like, oh two Sam's on there,
we need to get another one. No, just keep the
samness going. But yeah, no, not much news. And that's
what's gonna happen the next little bit, I imagine, because
I feel like I think it's gonna be on heavy
come December with a lot of trailers and everything. But yeah,
we'll see. Like I said, that's a good experiment to do.
Usually on the Monday, there's always box Office and I
talk a little bit of the Wicked box Office coming
up and some of the tracking. Uh but yeah, we're
just gonna shoot the shit for a little bit, talk
about Batman. I hope everyone's doing well. Hope everyone's having
a good week, a hump day if you're watching this
live or listen to this on Patreon. But uh yeah again,
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said before, Patreon next year, it's always you get your
three either. It's like the we have a schedule right
of what comes out every month. If you're a producer,
you get to pick the content, you get to pick
a movie. It's your first time and you're gonna get
all that stuff super early. So look up for that
and we thank you and think you're gonna let's listen.
Uh yeah, trying to think what else been going on?
What else is happening? December November, getting very busy lifetime wise.
I'll go into some of the questions and I'll start
with God Loves Me sixty nine because he is a patron,
he is a producer, so he has two questions. He said, Uh,
have you seen Bogonia? I have not yet seen Bogonia.
As I've talked about before, life just kind of the
way it is now. Once Emily's back to work and
once the twins are in daycare and everything, that'll change.
But right now it feels like if I I have
a finite amount of time to sneak out and if
it's and lots of times it has to be for
the reviews. Obviously it's getting a bit different because now
twins are actually, you know, mostly sleeping in their beds,
not waking up, So let's get better. I haven't got
to the point where I like to go to the
gym super early. I haven't got back to that point
yet because them waking up early. I haven't gone to school.
It's kind of tough, right So Luckily I've been going
with Taylor. Me and him kind of go twice a
week because he's got a guest pass where he is,
and then I do the homeworkout. So but that was
the problem with that. It came out during Halloween, and
the thing is with that, I always don't know what
to call you. Guy. I was like almost just a God,
just shortening to God. But the problem with that sixty
nine is it came out Halloween, but it came out
the thirty first, so I'm not sure if you or
other people got Thursday screening. So honestly, the the Thursday
would have been perfect to see that I had nothing
going on really that I could have skipped. And then
now there's just tons of stuff of right now, people
don't know my oldest daughter, Gwen she's in dance and
same as my third daughter. Ally she's in dance, but
Gwen's in five dance and so she does five a
week and then she's a Nutcracker. She's playing a sugar
plum and a mouse this year, so she does that
on Sunday, so six days a week. Things are very
busy in our household right now. It's funny, like podcasting life,
I feel is very busy from like July to extra
life because now we got GV Day, so there's always
some set up there planning and then some in between
the plan extra life, and then it's like, okay, we
have movies and TV shows and especially this summer with
how many TV shows we got, it was super busy,
just too busy to be honest. But then with now
personal life, anytime, if she continues to do Last year,
we didn't do Nutcracker because the twins were being born,
couldn't pull it off. But Nutcrackers multiple practices, luckily on
the same day, but lots of times they're not, especially
when we get closer to it. There's a lot of casts,
like a lot of calendars where it's just like dras
potentially not available because it's just a lot of practice
they go later, especially now she's in both parts right
act one act too, so yeah, I'm happy for her.
I've never said I don't like watching Nutcracker. I don't
need to see the Nutcracker yearly, but I do now
because that's what that's what I do, and I do.
You know, I'm always gonna support and go see the
show and everything like that. I'm very happy she enjoyed it,
so I'll be there. But yeah, so things get very busy.
So that's the thing sixty nine where there's a finite
amount of time and same thing. I could have made
the excuse of all see it and not the excuse.
But when I can see it and then talk about
it on the podcast, that makes it easier to justify,
like hey, I'll go do the time, see it, talk
about it. But then when it's like past a week,
it's like, well, I go, this stuff going on, it's
not really too timely to talk about on like a
traps told you for you know, downloads or clicks because
lots of time, as you can see this shows me
ranting and stuff. But if it's something like a movie,
I've got to still get in a find my finite
amount of time where it's makes sense, right, like where
it's still okay why, like I it's a topical right,
So no, I will see at some point. I'll probably
see it on VOD, which I was not planning to.
I've heard great things about it. I will get around
to see it, especially that's one that I want to see.
There's a lot of twenty twenty five movies that they're
not chores, but I go, oh, yeah, I gotta watch those.
But I don't. I don't know. I don't have a
too much poll. Like I feel like most of the
ones I have a poll that i'll be seeing in
theaters later on or like even after three like I've
talked about before, Like I think I might be on
that review, but I just I don't have much anticipation
for it. So it's like, do you want to sit
there for three and a half hours? I don't know.
So that's the thing. I think I've seen most stuff
I really want to partake in. What was the other
questions we had here, sir? But yeah, you said, if
not so good, highly recommend it. Do do you boys
plan on playing Arc Raiders? I should have asked on
Psydequest seems like you guys have a blast with a
Happy hump dayes happyhump Day user, I mean, don't talk
about arch Raiders a little bit. I don't know too
much about it, but I would like to. We gotta
get back into hell diverse because we were playing that.
That's lots of fun. But I'll run up by the boys.
I wouldn't be opposed. I would love to eventually at
some point start doing more streams. We used to stream
call duty, especially now that I know how to do
because I did it for GMOD. I would like to
do that again. But we never have like a set
time when we're doing it right, like that's the way
all our lives are so and then also ask Polaribus,
I think that's how you say it. Check that out,
very intriguing theory crafting. I want to The plan is
to hopefully get there. People know this if you're a
long time listener. I love Breaking Bad, one of my
favorite shows of all time. It is my favorite show
of all time. Better call Saul. I enjoyed, but I
don't have it as much on the Breaking Bad level.
I get why some people did, but I want to.
It's funny I never none that anything really pulled me in,
but I've heard great things and I wouldn't expect anything
less from Vince Gillen Vin Vince Giligan, so it is
on the list. I might even start it soon. What
I was doing was I finished Stranger Things. Fine, I'll
talk about that a little bit on the newscast because
we'll talk about what we've been watching. But I finish
that because next week obviously the volume one start, so
and I'll be I think those are just solo reviews
for me. So if you like Stranger Things, you'll begin
Travis there because we're doing that, and then the Christmas
one in New Year's one, like I will review, we'll
see when they come out. Terrible times for podcasters, but
Mike says, my sister did that Cracker when I was
a kid, had to see it every year. I can relate. Yeah,
it's like I said, I don't don't mind it. The
people are very talented. They do a very good job.
Like Columbus a small town, but they do a very
good job. It just it's not a show I need
to see every year. You know it's not. But obviously
because my kids are in there, that makes it's good
when they're on stage or just want one kid, right.
But yeah, So I finished Stranger Things, so I want
to get that done. I finished that last week. That's done.
I was four seasons and then I watched and I
talked about this a little bit. I'll tell about Skin tomorrow.
But I watched The Beast in Me on Netflix. That's
like that number one show right now. It's clar Dane
and Matthew Reeves where she thinks she's living beside a
killer next door. All I'd say is, unless you're a
massive fan of Claire Danes, I'm on the other side
where I'm a massive fan of Matthew Rees. So that's
why I watched it. So if you're in any of
those FC fan clubs, then sure watch it for those two.
Matthew Reeves, to me is a very underrated, underappreciated actor.
Loved them and brothers and sisters and the Americans. I
wish this guy would be in more bigger stuff, and
he's great in it. Clare Danes, I think it's kind
of doing stuff you've seen her do before in Homeland,
but Matthew Reves is playing something a little bit different,
Like I feel you saw little versions of this in
The Americans Brother Sisters, because he can play an asshole
times or a bit darker, but never to this extent.
So no, I really enjoyed his performance. I thought clare
Dane's was as well. I think the show was quite good,
Like it's hard for me to say really good. I
think it's one of those where it's quite good and
you can see the lines of where it could have
been great. It feels like it's a few steps or
just like a rewriter too, from being great. There's just
a few things. Yeah, I guess its shit in my
phone just in case anything breaks, but uh yeah, it's
there's just stuff where they'll set they'll tell you things
that like, for example, right, there'll be a character. I
don't care myers spoilers Smtthury's clar Dane's. They're the two leads, right,
she's the writer. She thinks he might be a killer,
and at one point he's talking about how you know
they're friends. They don't feel like friends at all, not
even just the way they act. It just feels like
the time has not been given. And especially because there's
at times where there she's writing a book about him
and even the trailers, you can see there's like a
tension relationship. Right. It feels like other than one time
they like again my suppers, they get drunk and they
none of them have They just get drunk and talk
about their lives and it's a good scene. It's very fun.
But just it doesn't feel like this would be like
we're friends now, right. It's just there's a few things
where it's the classic there they tail don't show and
I don't believe this and that a few times, and
I'll say in the final episode, man, there is a
resolution to a problem and is the most tropy cheesy
type of like this this is what you got, especially
twent than twenty five. It's like this is how you
do it. I was very disappointed by that, so I'd
only say watch it if you really like them. Other
than that, it was a good show. But yeah, and
so I probably will get to players. Right now, I'm
watching trying to catch some new movies, and then I've
been putting on six feet under. It's just like a background, like, hey,
I got work to do or other stuff. And because
I've seen it before, but I haven't seen a while,
so I probably will sixty nine. Maybe I'll wait for
the newest episode and then kind of do like a
binge of them. I have to check if I still
got Apple. I know me and my mom share that
and she was cute it for Moring show. If I don't,
that makes a bit harder. But I will get there
and watch it eventually. And yeah, I hear great things
and no surprise, and I do like that he's doing
something different, not just like, oh, another crime drama, right,
So I do enjoy that. And uh, yeah, that's about
it really, so let's get into some of these lists
here as far as so, yeah, I'm gonna do the
same thing I did with the ranking of the fan cast,
which I did not even have this. I don't know
if this is like someone put it as like a
scuttle but CD plus rumor or if it's something where
like it's just fancasting. I think it's mostly fancasting. But
I'd never thought about this. And again I saw the
clip where with James Gunn people I think because of
Frankenstein and Worthern Heights or something a lordy man, I
never thought about that. And I said before, I don't
have a perfect I do have like a perfect fan
cast because I think sam Ree would be great, right,
but I've always said that's not gonna happen. That's a
far reach, right, where with a Lordy that's not a
far reach. He did the same thing as Pal, like, Oh,
if there's one hero I play, would be Batman. He's
worked like Worthern Heights and Preachers w B Right, he's
growing a name. It's there was a rumor that it
sounded like he could have auditioned for Superman and he
just passed on it. And maybe that's because he just
want to play Batman. And he was my pick for
Batman because our sort of Superman, so I kind of
thought like, oh, he doesn't want to do that. But
now that people to show those clips him talking about Batman,
the size, and especially I think it's because all the
auscre like the Governor Awards, all this stuff, we're seeing
him suit up. It's like, man, he'd be a great
Bruce Wayne. Now with that, i'd have to see, like
who the writer is, who the director is. Maybe if
it's Andy Muschetti like, which would still be good enough,
but man, I'm really behind that one now. So I'm
with people. I hope a Loordi happens. I think A
Lord's ultra talented, Like I already thought that before, but
I think at least with Frankenstein said this in my
mini review of it, that people have kind of woken
up and been like, oh, he's not just this thing
right and wor the Heatz looks great and I feel
like he has that perfect edge for Bruce Wayne, where
he can be the charming, charismatic but also at times
you should not like Bruce Wayne, right, Like one of
my favorite runs is at the end of Death of
the Family, not deafin in the Family, Death of the Family.
We're just like Robin Barbara, Like I guess I should
be specific Dick Damian Barbara, like they want nothing to
do with Bruce, like something happened, and it's just kind
of they're putting him an armland because that times give
me a dick or just not a good person. I
would say I'm a good person. He will be a
harsh person. He's a tough love type of person, right,
and LORDI could do that almost more than pass into
my opinion, right, and that'd be something completely different. So
I hope that happens. Uh excuse Mike, says A Lord
codes a bit too young in the world with a
night wing age to Grace. And now here's the thing, Mike,
I agree with you. The reason I'm kind of walking
that back is just because Gun's saying lots of change
with the Batman script. I still think there's a chance
that they completely walk back the whole And he never
said older Batman, but the idea of an older Batman,
the idea of all this universe stuff, and I would
like that. I would love it if because I again,
we still to find what's going on with the Reeves script.
I really don't want Robin and the Reeves story. I
can see how it could work, but I just think
with a trilogy, and even then if we only get
the Batman Part two, I really just wanted to be
about Robert focusing how he is becomes Bruce Wayne. Now, granted,
maybe that's how you use de Grayson, right, but I
just feel like there's pieces missing that story before you
get to Robin I do. It's tough, right, because you're hoping,
like fuck Saudi Arabia or Saudi Arabia and Paramount could
be because that broke a couple of days or in
between this, right, because we talk about Saudi Arabia. Then
there is a report that Paramount was teeming with Saudi
Arabia and other people to buy Warm Brothers. They came
up and said no, no, no, this isn't true. And I
had so many people, so many people share like, oh
good news, it's not true. This Paramount said, I think
not true. Literally, there is like a week and a
half in between the Netflix se O being like, yeah,
we really have no interest in Paramount and Or and
Warner Brothers, and then there's rumors being like, yeah, they're
looking into it. They're getting a you know, investment firm
or whatever to look at the books and stuff. It's like,
don't believe anything these people say. They even send their statement.
It's a private manner. We're not gonna talk about it
in full till act the fact where if we have
to write, don't believe any of these big corporate see
oh billionaire people. I'm not saying they're all wires, which
they could be, but just like like they just said,
it's a publicly traded like possible purchase. They're not gonna
say anything about that, right because maybe if Netflix or
Universal learned that, hey, they are part of with Saudi.
That changes our bid, that changes how we approach things,
et cetera. Right, So my thing is honestly hopefully the
dc you could go. But I you know, I've been
talking about this a lot with h fanboy Clay because
I feel like in the GUH chat me and him
are the most word because he's also watches wrestling, and
I feel like there's a lot of people that don't
understand the Saudi Arabia thing other than a few other
stuff like from a business standpoint. I talked about this
last episode as far as like what they could just
really fuck up with dc and what they would want right,
So I don't I really don't have much faith in
the DCU continue or the DCU as we know with
James Gunning and the plant. As I've said before, I
don't love James Gunns DCU, but I like that it
is like has you know, a clear vision because it's
the guy and it's still like decent enough hang on
one second here, Uh sorry, sorry, it was a somewhat
urgent work manner where someone need to know something because
I still do that, but I'm not working right now,
but it's when I get back to it. So the
thing is in the perfect world, the DCU, I would
love to me, that's the perfect time to be. You
start with that, and then you're bringing Robin, you're bringing
Jason Todd, You're bringing Damn. You're bringing Damien like to me,
and I got why you would do the whole Oh
he's a dad. It's different, but I would you know,
I will always feel a little robbed if we don't
get that. So I do agree with you, Mike that
if they are still going that route, he does seem
a little younger because what he's like. I think we
looked this up last time. He's like twenty eight right off,
so you can age him up a little bit. Let's
see here, and I apologize. Hopefully my audio is good.
Let me know in the chat if it's bad, because
my WiFi is taking a beating right now. But he's
he's twenty eight. You know, you could age him up. Also.
It is tougher with like Dick Grayson. But we'll see, right.
I don't care if they say they change. I would
rather them just outright or gun say hey, we have
this idea, we plan to go. We decided to go
a different way instead of the whole kind of okay,
thank you my kid, because when I photo on new tab,
it was like, so it must just be something else
going on. I think that with shit where was I
Oh yeah, I would just much rather him go yeah,
change versus sometimes gunned does the whole well I said
this or all I meant this, or I didn't. I
didn't exactly say that. It's fine just to say things change, right,
the same thing like I, I don't know, we're I'm
not a billion dollar head of presency, right, but we
do that all the time with Geek for stuff. So
I don't know. I think it's just sometimes easy and
people get it. Things change, life happens, right, So I
guess we'll have to wait and see there. But let's
talk about something the lists. I'm gonna do the same
thing where I'm going to write it down and then
I will pull up the ranking. So I'll hold the
almost Batman ranking. And I think I've known most is.
I don't think anything jumped up something we're reminders of,
Oh right, that did almost happen. But let's take a
look here. So and then we're gonna and what I'm
gonna do, even though it's a Batman ranking I'm gonna
take this fucking thing off. It's gonna han here. I'm
gonna still put it in a sense of it is
a Batman ranking, but we're putting Bruce and Batman together
like it's gonna be them two, like what I think
they do together. Right, as far as the quality, now,
I think this is an easy one for I'm saying
it's gonna be last. Now, granted, this was at a
time where I think this was coming where we're supposed
to be a comedy. I think there's even rumors that
Eddie Murphy was gonna playa or Robin. It was in
the time where I think they're kind of making something
in the elk of Batman sixty six. But people know
how I feel about this guy in general, so I
know I'm pretty sure he's gonna be last of the list,
and I'd be shocked if there's anybody else, right Bill Murray, Now,
don't get me wrong, I get it where If it
is we're making a Batman sixty six adjacent, I could
see that, right, I could see I could pull that
off an Adam West type of thing. He has done
serious work. I just think all over that is a mess,
even for the comedy wise, I get it, but even
some of the serious stuff, it would be tough to
buy him in. But I get it. That was a
different time, but I thought was still bring up because
it comes up all the time when they're talking about
making him Batman and Man. That would have like if
that happens, that goes in a certain directory. I don't
want to see like Batman played by Bill Murray. It's
kind of like those rumors that Jack Black at one
point they were making a green lantern, kind of like
the mask. Yeah, that would have took the green Lantern.
It also already went in a bad trajectory, but it
would have went a much worse trajectory. So yeah, So
I don't see anything else beating that as far as
being ranked last. But we'll have to see. Let's take
a look here next on the list. Stop doing this.
Read it, Willem Dafoe. Now listen. People might go, no, no, no,
you're wrong, it's Joker. No no no. I had to
double check this because I remember him talking about this.
I think he kind of said the whole Joker rumor
thing never was really true, or there wasn't. At least
he knew about like he didn't know of anything to
it for For this he talked about it. I found
in two thousand and nine. At one point he said
early on talks he has talked about being for Batman.
So obviously I'm gonna rank him above Bill Murray. I
don't know what version this would be. Obviously tim Berne
and Wonderful would eventually work together. I think it's tough
because if you think of Batman eighty nine. I've said
this before, Keen's Bruce Wayne, for the most part, is
not great. I think before Pattison came along, he was
the worst Bruce Wayne on screen live action, because that's
a guy and pass And I've always said the reason
you kind of give it a pass is because he's
not in the public that much, right, You don't seem
they kind of make him that He's just keeps to himself,
and you know he's kind of a shut in. Right.
Also they do the Dark Knight rises, but you had
the history of Bail with Keiden. He's out there all
the time or a lot of the time, and he's
a fucking weird guy. He's a guy that you go, Yep,
that's bat He's Batman. Where Bruce like Passing, you might
get there, but the promise he's not out enough to
really get a gauge on him, right, you just think
he's just a guy and enjoining his riches. So right now,
of course I'm gonna put Dafoe above Murray, but I
think Dafoe's Bruce would only fit in the the keyten
Burden type right to play him a little more aloof,
a little more weirdo, a little more off the wall.
It's not really Bruce Wayne. And even as Batman, right,
I think Dafoe one of the race actors of all time.
So it's kind of like when people bug me about
how I say Glenn Pell could be a Batman. Give
Dafoe Batman and let's see what would happen. It's an
odd fit offsee Joker, that's the fit right there. That
would be great. He It's just odd thinking about him
in the like even in the eighty nine one, it's
an odd fit because Ken's not big guy. But Keing
just has a scary president. Dafoe is a different type
of presence. So I think Dafoe is probably the Grace
actor without an Oscar. I do think that I give
him a shot, let's see. But I think he's scarer
in a different elk, so I don't know same thing
like the Murray. I don't know how far Dafoe is
gonna climb. I think I'll have him at second last.
But maybe there's someone else on this list that pops up,
because I got a three lists here, so we'll see.
But that would have been I don't know if that.
I don't know if he would have pulled off the
Batman thing. As great as an actor Dafoe is. I
feel like that could have been a test for him, right,
a really big challenge where burdens Bruce Wayne. Yeah, he
could have done that. Pierce Brosman, he's somebody. Now. I'm
gonna put him above the other two right now because
I do think it's similar, right, because I think there's
a lot of people that could play both. Right, Like
you can say, oh, he'd be a great Bruce Wayne,
but not great Batman or great Batman great Bruce Wayne.
I think Powell gets that when we talked about that.
I think dephone come about that here. I think with
Pierce the Bruce Wayne stuff, as we saw Bond, he
has that locked up, right, That's easy good to go,
very simple. I'm not gonna say a layup, but kind
of is right. I don't think obviously Bond and Batman
are the same type of guy, but there are isms,
there are similarities. Pierce as Batman, I think I could
see because there's time where he has to get serious
as Batman, I think it's similar to I think he
would have played a lesser version of Keaton's Batman, but
I think that would have been good. Off say, I
don't know. I still think Keen would have been a
better choice for as the Batman, but I think that
would have worked out. I can see, especially the Bruce
Wayne part. You can see the line there. I think
that would have been good. So we'll mosey on here.
Ethan Hawk, this one says specifically for Batman forever, right,
I don't know. I especially this era, I think it's
similar to Batman. Right. Uh, you said, are you saying
I suppose clarify? I think you're talking about bronzeon, But
if you're talking about Ethan Hawks, and he feels like
a very bail type to me, the Bronson, yeah, I
could see that. I could see his His Batman would
have been pretty wooden. Because I think Batman like Bail's
best Batman is in begins and then his bruises what
carries him throughout. I could see those comparisons there, and yeah,
even this his like the whole Batman begins pond thing
like I'm buying this hotel. You could see Peers doing there, right,
But again that's a bond. Even Hawk, I don't know
what I'm saying, does it feels similar to Affleck where
I feel afflic once he got to the argo older
stage when he's like he's an older Batman, I go,
you know what, I can see that. I was one
of those people that I support Affleck the whole way,
me and Kyle when that was announcer like this is
a great cast and where so many people crapped on it, right,
But I think Athleic like younger, like even though he
did Daredo, but still like younger. Okay, it wasn't Pierpo Pierce. Yeah,
I agree with you on that because I was like,
I don't know if Ethan Hawk same thing Ethan Hawk
and Bail younger not so much but older. I see
some similarities. But Ben Affleck like after what is it
goodwill hunting? No, I don't see it there. Same thing,
so Batman Forever era, I really don't see like Kilmer's
definitely a better choice. Maybe some Batman stuff, maybe you
get there, but I don't. I don't think Hawk would
have been a good choice, and I think Hawk would
have been a better later choice, and even then I
would not have felt as confident as I did as athletic.
I feel like Hawk is similar to the Dafoe thing
right where I feel he has a better, different type
of scary isms, and he would have been better as
a villain. So I'm definitely gonna put him both, Pierce,
the question is Dafoe versus Hawk. I think I'd give
Hawk a little more of the edge because at least
he has like a more usual Ben Affleck like or
sorry Bruce Wayne like, I'm handsome and a gentleman. I
could have saw that and maybe and he can play
suave Hawk, so like look at him in the Before
or After or like the Midnight series or whatever the
fuck they are. They're all the different nights and days
when not right that even sometimes and I'm trying to
think there's something else that is just some tip my tongue.
So I think I'll put him a third right now, Hawk,
but I don't. I don't love that. I can see why,
in the nineties and era why they go to him,
but I don't. I don't see that as a good fit.
And I think that's a good at least at that age, right,
Walking Phoenix for Darren Ironofsky's Batman Year one, and I
guess still we're talking about Batman in general, right, But
that's another tough one because like Walking is a guy,
he can do a lot of great stuff, right, you know,
he's big, hitting hard. I don't even know if the
boys know that's in there. I put that in there.
I don't know if they know that's in there. Ethan
Hawke is in the before movies. Yeah, the aftermovies are
the one direction fantics, Okay, thank you? Yeah, because it's
like what it's like before sunset, before midnight, before sunrise,
something like that. That's a blind spot for me. I've
never seen any of them seen. I think I saw
like a bit of one when I was younger, But
like from what I've seen in clips, there's some suave
with the mashery and charisma there, right, maybe I have
seen one. I feel like I've seen the first one,
but I need to check those off at some point,
maybe if they ever do a fourth one. But Walking,
So here's the thing I think for Walking, specifically for
Aaronofski's Batman, that works like I just feel like Aeron
Ofsky knows his movies are very specific. Even though, like
you know, Caught Stealing, I didn't, I didn't love I
really enjoyed it. But for the most part, his movies
are very specific. I'd say, for if he thought with
script and Darren, Aronofsky's Batman was perfect because he was
trying to do like almost like what they're doing with
Absolute Batman right where I think he was gonna be
very low money and just had like a workshop, like
he was a mechanic, like like it sounded pretty similar
to what Absolute Batman is. Obviously would have got that Jack,
but for that he'd be perfect. So that would have
been a very different Batman. He probably wouldn't have to
do the whole student tie suave sort of stuff if
he was going to, like Walking is one of the
greatest actors of all time, I think he could find
a way to do the Bruce Wayne stuff. The Batman
stuff is the trickiestuff, which is funny because we have
two people on this list that you know were rumored
for a Batman then went on to be Joker right
at least, maybe too maybe more. I don't think Phoenix
is scary in that sense. He's he's again like the
defaulte thing, So I think he the Bruce Wayn would
have had to carry it, and same thing with Darreonno
Offkus Batman would have been something very different. May who knows,
I would have been a scary Batman right, would have
been more like a vigilante year one sort of way.
So yeah, I so in this list, I would put
him above Hawk though right now, So right now I
got Murray Dafoe Pierce, let's see Phoenix then Hawk. I
would put him above Hawk. I have more because I
think the bruce Wayns would you know, on a no,
I think if you're looking at like at a five ranking,
I think there Bruce Wayns could be similar ranking. They're Batman.
I would trust Phoenix to get their more to be
scary and intimidating because even look at God, what's that
movie he did where he has the hammer? It's like
I may not forgive you or let me just putting
Walking Phoenix Hammer. It's a dark movie, Hammer movie. You
were never really here. You know he's scary in that.
So all right, let's go next to colmb Farah Wolfkin
Pearson's Batman Versus Superman. People don't know, Yes, they were
trying to do a Batman versus Superman early on. I
can't remember something happened because Wolfkine Peterson did Troy right,
Troy director. Yet it is I hate to say this
is Wolfgane Pearson still alive. I think he's passed, right,
I think he's passed. No, yeah, he did. Okay, yeah,
a couple of years ago, August twelve, twenty twenty two.
So people that don't know, at some point they were
working on a Batman vs. Suitman. I don't know that
there's there must be scripts, but I don't know too
much about it. I don't know who the Supman would
have been. But that's why. And I am legend there
is a Batman Versus Superman poster because like, oh, we're
gonna do this at some point, right, and the whole
thing they were gonna do that, and it fell apart,
and then he went up to go do Troy and
then because he did that, because Nolan was supposed to
direct Troy, they said, okay, you know Wolfkin's gonna do Troy,
but as like a make good we'll give you Batman
and then the rest is history for Nolan, right, So
it's kind of funny that duology. Colin Farrell, Yeah, I
think he could do the Bruce Wayne stuff. That's easy.
He's got that Dann he's some too, Like I said
with affleck Or Hawk would have been better as like
an older age like in the BVS era, but I
I could see what they're going for and he can't
get quite dark. So I think Farrell would have been
a really good choice. He's somebody, like I said, that's
been better as he's got an older but I would
put that currently hit number two. I'm a big fan
of Farrell. Uh, the older he gets, actually, the better
he has. Obviously twenty he went to go play on
the Penguin, But I think the Bruce Wayne as far
as this list, other than Pierce, he's probably the best
at that. And Batman I could see him getting scary obviously,
who knows what that script was like, right, So Jake
Jillenhold's Batman obviously, when that's been talked about for many years.
I think that's always been a case same thing of
the Bruce Wayne. He's got that down. How wouldes Batman be?
But I think Jake, like I give him a lot
of credit. Fake people go back and forth. I think
people bring up his eyes because his eyes. He's not
like the most scariest looking motherfucker. But I think he
could have got there, and I think he does fit
with what Nolan was trying to do. But I still
put them below feral. To me, I feel like Farrell
can get a little more scarier, So we're gonna put
him there killing Murphy as Batman obviously when like the auditioned,
he was in the suit, he was in the finals.
It's very similar, like the Dafaoue thing or the Hawk thing, whereas, hey,
he's probably better on the villain side, right, I think
specific because it's funny. I can see him in Begins
a lot because I feel like that's the most Bruce move.
I feel like it is the most Bruce Wayne heavy
movie we get. Actually, I guess rises might be because right,
he's on the suit that right that much, right, But
he's in that fucking cave in the in the what
is that the the pit, So it's a lot of
Bruces being hurt on a gurney. I think with it's
similar to Phoenix and the Aronofsky thing. I think Killian
actually would have been great for Batman begins. I can
see a lot of those brucisms. But in the test,
like even then, he's not the Batman is lacking a little, right,
even though coming off twenty years later we told those
before or twenty eight days later. You can see how
when he gets scarier in there, how you could get there.
But I think that would have been I think his
Bruce he would have done very good at the real
Bruce Wayne, because obviusly there's three characters, right, there's Batman,
there's a fake Bruce Wayne, and then there's Bruce Wayne,
who's a real version combo of all like Batman and
Bruce Wayne, right, not the fake version, right. I think
he would have done the torn Bruce Wayne stuff really good.
So it's just a question of like his Batman, because
I'm looking at him versus Phoenix, like who would have
been a scarier Batman? I still put Murphy above him there,
so I'm gonna do that and also I'll screenshoed the
list after to share the whole thing. Right, he fled
your same thing that was talking about Batman begins. He
was kind of he I think he kind of said
that he was kind of like feeling about it, like
he didn't he didn't feel like doing the Batman thing
was exactly what he wanted to do, even though he
liked Nolan's pitch, he just was or is that heart
in that Maybe I can't remember. I think one of
them just kind of made both of them so they
just not didn't take it seriously, but they were kind
of unsure, but then once they saw it begins, they
kind of got it again. Like Murphy like Hawk like
to Foe, his presence is elsewhere better and even then
to his charming charisma is very different than the other
people that would take to be Bruce Wayne, Like you
look at ten things they hate about you, you can
make a case, so you're gonna make a top ten
performances with charisma. Fuck man, he fled you in that
movie Knockout, Like man, we lost such a talent. Every
time I see his old work, it's just such a shame.
There's other stuff too, but that movie specifically you fall
in love with he fled sher, doesn't matter. Put him
up against anybody. He brings it there, right, So, But
I think, like for the Bruce Wayne ness and the Batman,
I rank Heath the pretty low. Now. Don't get me wrong,
He's like Dafoe. He's one of the greatest actors where
if you were to say, let's see it okay and
then give it to us, maybe would be great, right,
But I think I'm gonna put him pretty low on
the list, even though love led Jeer and obviously he
wanted to become you know, to me getting the greatest
performance of all time, I always say, people might think
I'm biased a joker, but put the bug up against anybody. Uh.
Henry cavill as Batman and Batman begins as well. I
think the Bruce Wayne stuff he'd get, and I actually
think with the Batman stuff he'd do pretty well. Like
I'm not on board when people have been giving him
the DCU fan cast, like, no, I think that's a
little weird. That'd be too close to home. Let's not
do that. But I think, uh, I think he would
have done pretty well for both stuff. He has the
size too, Like even before he works out, he's just
like a bigger broaders shoulder guy. Like yeah, like he
is the height like I you know, I I'm putting
him pretty high. I don't get me wrong. I think
there's certain people on here, like a like a phoenix,
like a Murphy. For the Bruce Wayne stuff, especially in
that era, they're gonna give you a better performance, right,
They're gonna give you more emotion. I think Henry Cavill's
got much. Berrier's got older. You know, at times he
was a little wooden. I think the Bruce Wayne stuff,
they would kill over him. But I think his Batman
would be more believable and you would buy into that. Right.
So I'm gonna rank him like like fourth right now,
fourth right now. I feel good about that. Let's see.
So here's one. We're gonna take out everything, take out
the bag. It's just talk about the acting. Go back
into the air. When happened Arnie hammer Off, see the
Batman who never was right. He's one of those guys
that was talked he was legitimately cast in George Miller's
Justice League. He was talking about when BBS. He was
talked about in the rumors of Affleck was leaving. He
was talked about with Pattison, and I'm sure if those
things didn't happen and there was an older Batman, people
would be talking about him. Again. Take everything out, Bruce Wayne,
I think, look at social network other stuff. That's a
nail on the head, that's you get it. And I
do think he has the right liko, the right face,
the jawline in the eyes I was with people. I
do think it would have been a great Batman and
Bruce Wayne, I I think he would have been like
I don't know if I want to say all timer,
but I think the potential was there. I could see
Miller's vision everything that perceie that, I could see that
social network, mamm with Uncle yeah or man from Uncle right.
I could see like there's a lot of them there.
So for me it's, you know, obviously again we're just
taking everything out. Who knows canna put him at now?
I was gonna put him number two, I'm gonna put
him a number one. I'm gonna put him a number one. Again,
there's no way you would do it now, there's no
way they could. And again for the Batman who never
was dodged a freakin' ball. Could you imagine and Matt Reeves,
Now we probably live in a world where maybe they
would have paid some pill off and that stuff when
it come out, But could you imagine that Matt Reeves
Batman comes out and it's let's say, he just make
sense why I And that's why it all differs, right,
I'm thinking just classic comic book Batman, Aaron Offi's script
which I refer to, which I have downloaded I recently.
It came across like it came across twur somewhere, and
I think it was he wrote with Frank Miller. Most
people said it wasn't the Grace, but I want to
read it, so I do have somewhere but like his
script and like Matt Reeve's script, right, that's where or
like I'm talking about Dafoe with Burdens Batman, if you
were to say Matt like, there's a reason why pass
It and Holt were the top two contenders because Reeves
had a certain vision, a certain style you want to
do with his Bruce Wayne Batman, Armie Arnie Hammer does
not fit that Bruce Wayne. That's where I'm saying, just
the stereotypical. Here's Batman. Bruce Wayne Arnie fits that. But
if you're saying, hey, specifically, if you if I was
ranking this even all these actors, that'd be a fun list.
But if I was ranking Arnie on the Matt Reeves say,
you have to put an actor in the Batman. People
like Hawk, people like Phoenix, even people like Ledger they
go up, they go much high where Pierce, Arnie, Cavill
they go way down, right. So all depends on the take.
And that's why when people gonna talk about Glenn Palence
like you don't know what the script would be, right,
And at this point Gunn hadn't said this, but he said, no,
like I still want Batman to be darker. I won't
want to be to meet comedic. I thought there was
a chance his Batman would be more lighthearted, more breathing,
the bold ish, right like the cartoon, not as far
as cartoon, but you know what I mean, right, that's
where Pal's perfect for that. So it's like, we don't
know what the script is. Same thing with this when
people were talking about like Ben Affleck, and let's say
in that history where it's like Ben Affleck playing Matt
Reeves's Batman. He could never fit that Batman like that
was and that was never the case, right people, could
you know? I think there was a time where it's
like all the script change and changed it. No, when
Ben Affleck said, and I was a sucker back then.
This is before I was really in the podcasting game
and breaking this stuff down. When Ben Affleck was like, oh,
I'll go on the ground and play at eight for
Matt Reaves, I was, Okay, he's in. Why would he
say that out there? And then I was like, you
know what, I showed that I was too naive and
you can't believe, as I told the CEO's actors what
they're gonna say, Ben Affleck could have never done what
Rob Passon did. Could Rob Passon do what Affleck did
when he's older? Sure, But that's also I think Passon's
a better actor, and I don't think Affleck would disagree
with that, right. I think Affleck's strengths are he's a
very good actor, but the directing is where he showed that. Right,
but our hair, if we're just going to classic put
him there, let's see next on the list Josh Brolin
for being And that's the same thing Brolin in the
stereotypical batman. No, but he was going for the BVS
batman that fit like what afflic did Brolin fits with
that aesthetic. I think he would have been a very
good batman. I think he would have been a scary batman.
The intensity is there the Bruce Wayne at all I
think he could have pulled off. I don't think it
would have been the strongest suit, if you're even just
trying to think of BVS like. I don't think he
was nearly as charming as bad like as uh Affleck
would have been. But I'm gonna put him appears has
taken some beings right now. But this is purely because
his batman I think would have been strong, especially in
the BBS world. He would have knocked that part out
of the park. So he got that one there. And
this is the last one for this list. Holt again.
That's where once I saw what Grieves was going with,
I can see why the line the Holt was there.
I could see him doing that Bruce Wayne. The difference
is I think Passons Bruce Wayne is even more scary
than Ben Afflecks because Passons batman looks so fucked up
he has the Arkham arn or he just he looks
like a guy that's gonna snap at any moment. Right.
Ne Afflix has that too, But he looks like he's
been through some stuff. Right. He looks like the closest
I've seen to the Batman. I like that's like addicted
to being Batman. Passon has that. I don't think that's
the same way when I'm talking about with Brolin, where
his Batman would have been very strong, but his Bruce
would have been okay, because his Batman's so strong, I
think is Bruce would have been strong than thatt Reeves.
But in a classical sense, I don't think so. Even
if you use this stuff the menu or Lex Slutor,
same thing. His energy was perfectly placed to where it
needs me with Lex and I think he was He's
the best Lex we've got. He was a fantastic film.
I'll be fighting for him Golden Geeks this year. I
think he not home Run with Lex Slutor and credit
to James Gunner with the writing as well. Home Run
there that showed the energy like the Ledger thing, like
the killing Murphy thing was off and it's better suited elsewhere, right,
So hold I got pretty pretty low, I cause like
him versus Ledger. Right, that's the same situation where we
went off to go play films because I'm just trying
to take all the Reeves stuff right, because even his
Batman would be a bit more mopey, whereas I'm trying
to I have to even I have to go. I
still gonta put him above or below Ledger, because I
still think now I think they're their Batmans would have
been pretty similar with I just think his Bruce Went
would have been a bit better, and I assume thinking
classical Batman. Right, So that's one. Let's let's see if
we have anybody else that's miss because they pull up
for listen total. I think it's our hammer we ca.
We checked off Phoenix, We checked off Farrell, We checked
off Jake, Jill and all who looks like John Bertha
on this phone. We checked off Ethan Hawke, killing Murphy,
Josh Brolin, We checked off Nick his hole pits Bronzenan
and then he fled your Kate. We checked all those off.
There's gonna be an August one coming up that I
think is like on the post things here, and I
don't even know if he was like actually rumored, but
you know, it's kind of like a we'll put him
because the fan cast happened of like County. Oh nice,
it closed that second window even though I didn't want that,
but'll bring it back up. Let's see here. Uh it's okay.
So here's a couple of new ones. So here's to
me number one with the bullet other than Matt Reeves's Batman,
and you know what, probably Nolan's as well. So that's
a good thing. That's why Batman's such a versatile character, right,
Ben Affleck's Batman, Nolan's Batman, and Passon's Batman Reeves back
all very similar but very very different, right. I think
bat By passing affleics sharing the scary Batman essence, but
there Bruce Wayne's very different. I think that Bruce Wayne's
of Bail and Afflecks share the similarity as far as
the charismatic, cocky individual, but their Batman's very different, especially ethically,
right where the and then Passon and Bruce Wayne or
Bail's Batman and our online ethics but character wise very different. Right.
John Ham talked about many times that's where classical Batman
bvs even same thing like Nolan's Batman, Like, I can
see the Batman in there, but I can't see Ham
doing that Bruce Wayne stuff, right. You definitely can't see
John am doing the pass and stuff, right. So that's
where I'm ranking this on just a classical Batman, I mean,
it's another evergreen topic or in the future, I don't know,
but just like putting them the specific batman's or just
even ranking the Batmans we got cast and how they
would do in like how would Kilmer do with the
pass or BVS? So maybe maybe that'd be it. Maybe
we'll do that as another evergreen topic. I try to
spread the Batman stuffup because I could talk Batman every
week if there's nothing to talk about. Right, But John Hammer,
if we're going classical fuck man, that's number one with
a bullet. I think his best if it's just movies,
his best bet was the BVS. Right, I think he
would fit there. But I think he if you were
making a James Gunn same thing. If he's younger, I
don't think now. Uh And yeah, John, that's the way
I feel about Lordy. But easily John Ham could have
been either Batman or Superman perfectly, right. Yeah, I think
I think they both. It all depends on the era
and the type of direction, but he would have nailed
both of those. John Hamman, It's so funny how after
Madman he didn't blow up. I think, you know, didn't
pick the greatest project after the fact. But John ham
to me, was always kind of like Arnie, where if
that's a perfect Batman, we never got it was sitting
right there should have happened. Don't get me wrong. Affleck
killed it and he was a better box off Straw right.
But yeah, especially after the rumors of like Affleck maybe leaving,
he would have been a great replacement. And here's one
that was talked about for a replacement for Keaton because
it was very ify on if Keten was gonna come
back for Batman Vengeance or Batman Triumphant. It had some
different names, but uh, Kurt Russell was talked about for
off Seat. Now that's a very different Batman. So I'm
saying thing like the other people that can't I'm going
classic Batman. I'm not gonna go for like the sequel
to Batman Robin with Kurt Russell. I'm trying to think, Chad,
if there is there any Kurt Russell roles that he
is like a Bruce Wayne esque supermanke says John Hamm
is Fargo's on season five. Jon Hamm and Fargo Season
five is an amazing film performance. That's good. No I
want I'd love to get to the Fargos. I love
no Hally even though like I didn't love Alien, so
I've always wanted to get there. Enjoyed the movie, I
just haven't got around to it. Pretty sure hand was
in the running for super returns as well see now
for Time of specific version. I don't think that would
have fit right, Like, I think he's great as Superman,
but if you're telling you're trying to tell me he
was Christopher Reeves Superman. They got the perfect guy in
Bran Ralph. Just the movie is not that great, right
and the rating is not that great, so that's where
they screwed up there. But yeah, I don't think he
is like would a fit for Christopher res Superman. But
Kurt Russell, I can't think of a suave role. Now.
He can just be a suave guy. But to me,
it's like the Ledger thing or who else is on
this list? Maybe just Ledger even whold lots of even hawked,
but I compare it more to Ledger, where he has
a different charisma, not necessarily the Bruce Wayne. I can
see him do that, even something like the hate flate.
You could see some sort of like the dickish Bruce
Wayne stuff, right, but that's harder, but very similar to
Peer or Brolin. I think he would have been a
great BAP and I think obviously look at thinks can
he He has the action arrow and he has put
for like a nineties Batman. He has a great action hero.
He has the Bruce Wayne thing where sometimes it's not
like I don't know he he can look handsome, he
can look he's more rugged, but he can look handsome.
He can pretty him up. So Russell, yeah, I'm gonna
put him right there. He's kind of a top mid pack.
Just someone knows. I will read off the list and
tell me a few people agree. Russell, Kurt Russell, not
Russell Crowe, Russell Crow, someone else, and that would not
be I don't have that as Batman Kurt Russell. Let's
let me specify, so I don't forget here. Okay, let's see,
is there anybody else that we haven't touched upon? Ye
had Defoe, we talked about jilln Hall Pierce killing Murphy Roland.
Oh yeah, this did come up, and these two did
come up in these type of eras of the nineties,
Baldwin and mel Gibson. Baldwin to me, I'm a sucker,
not really a sucker for I like him one. I
appreciate him. Dirty Sexy Money one of my favorite TV
shows of all time. But I think Baldwin's a pretty
limited actor. I think obviously there's some limitations in the
Burden one, and that's the era right in that one,
I think he has he even Dirty Sexy Money, he's
playing a Bruce Wayne type. I'm gonna put him second
last because the thing is on paper. Sure, does he
look like a better Bruce Wayne and Batman than William Dafoe. Yes,
But this just comes down to acting. I think William
Baldwin's like a just a decent actor, right. Dafoe is like, Hey,
I don't know if he could play Batman. Give it
to him and you could tell me there's a universe
where he plays a great, a great Batman. I go, yeah,
I can believe that. I wouldn't think of that on paper.
But Defoe is such a good actor. I bet he
did it right. Baldwin. There's not like any role I
could give him to be like, he could definitely knock
this out of the park, right, No, I think that's
a little bit different. So okay, uh PBSU says gladyer
Russell Crowe could have been amazing. I think the Batman, yes,
I don't know about his Bruce Wayne. I think he's
too rugged. I think he's too almost hard edged for it.
I guess beautiful mind he kind of gets a little softer.
So yeah, but the Batman Park, I think, yeah, absolute nails.
And again I think he's firing on all cylinders back then.
So I feel like there's some actors right that I
could say, yeah, I think they're a better actor in
this era where now it's like, oh they got better,
right Mel Gibson, that comes like the Arnie Hammer thing, right,
But that's just never been that made sense to me
of why they would have talked about that. There's just
never he's gotta get a phase for it. He would
have been a better Batman than a Bruce Wayne. I
don't think he has that right charisma. But Mel Tom
is always ranked like pretty low when we've heard about this,
so I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna rank him in like
the bottom three to four here right now. I just
have never jived with it, but on paper he would
be I think, better than the foe. And then it's
still like a good actor. Right, let's see, kay, And
I think we're almost done here. I got one more
lists and then we'll call it quit. So I'll give
my whole ranking. Let's took longer than I thought, so
we'll call it there because I'm almost at the at
the hour of mark. So I think that's a Look
at this thumbnail, I'm getting vibes that I've talked about
everybody here. Yeah, I think, So what is this picture
of Dafoe? Oh? What the fuck? I don't even know
where that pictures from. What is this he's like in
like at Indiana? Let me share this screen. Let me
know if anyone knows what those role is. If it's
something I've seen, it's not coming to mind. Sorry, this
is an audio pile. I describe it to you. But
it's like he looks like he's Indiana Jones, but just
with a mustache. What move is that from? I can't
close this ad? What move. What Dafoe movie is this from.
He's literally Inane Jones but with a mustache. I don't know.
Someone let me know because I can't place it. All.
Let's see here Phoenix, we got Roland. I think we
hit them all. Oh, I guess there's one more we
can talk about that. I did come up around that
era here, so this is the last one. Again. I
think this very much fits into the energy of the Ledgers,
the the Holts of person that would have been a
better villain. And we can talk about this the in
our ghat the other day too. It's funny. But uh,
Johnny Depp obviously somebody uh, because we were talking about
this with Leo. Those are the two most popular fan
casts for the Dark Knight Riots. Just before it was
called that when everyone thought it was gonna be the Riddler,
it was Depp and Leo, and I was on the
Depp bandwing man. I thought, oh, he'd be great. That
defaut photos. Okay, that's good to know, because it's funny.
I plan on watching that other those we're talking about things.
I plan I gotta finish my PTA watch along or
like my watches, and then I want to do gearma
like blind spots watch stuff like pants Lamber and the
m't scene a while. So Nightmare, Okay, that's good to know.
I'm gonna be watching that soon, so thank you, s bubs.
Johnny Depp was all on board for Riddler, and we
were talking about how there's this funny interview that because
early Internet, I guess Michael Kane just saw an article
or something that film scenemer Hoffman as the Penguin, which
would have been amazing, and Johnette was playing the Riddler,
and he's talked about this interview like, yeah, the next
Batman Batman three, it's gonna be those two going in.
It's fail. And then in the next interview you'd be like, oh,
that's wasn't real. I just saw fake stuff in the news,
and I apologize, but see that's some more like it's
kind of it's kind of funny because I was looking
at this because I just watched it finish it today.
God Edward scissors hands right, And it's kind of funny
that in the nineties, like obviously the two thousand and
Burn and Depth just become the go tos. They work
together all the time, right, But in the nineties, is
Lily Burden going back between Depp and Keaton and they
didn't interact at all. Please someone in chat let me
know if Keen and Depth have been in a movie
together before. And it's just kind of funny that, you know,
he does Beal Juice and then Batman, and you have
like ed Wood and Edward Sisshan and Batman two happens. Like,
let me get the trajectory of full Tim Burton movies here.
But I was thinking about this because Tim Burdon obviously
directed that he directed Batman Returns. Are Sorry that meaning
Edward Sisterhans. They share a lot of similarities those movies.
Even some of the scores are very similar. But let
me get the movies. But it just to me kind
of funny that they never cross paths like the Batman verse. Right,
So okay, so you get there. You get Beatle Juice
in eighty eight, and this guy fucking talk about a tear.
People thought about five movie tears as someone that really
likes ed Wood, Beatle Juice, Batman, Edwardsisterhans, Batman Returns, and
ed Wood now and even then, Yeah, I guess that
was the first time he worked with Depp, right, So
I guess it's that sense of maybe you know, King
was his guy in a sense, and then he moves over.
But yeah, it's funny that even after Edward Scissorhands, I
guess because Debt was kind of building that didn't sniff
anything in returns. Like, I don't know who he could
have been. He could even been bang one, to be honest,
but I just found that funny how they're usually you
have it where scorses he is working with a narrow
for a time that stops, the Leo takes over. Right,
it feels like there's times where people switch over, even
like Nolan, he worked with Bail for a bunch and
then it was like he's done a lot with Damon
or something like that. Right, Like, it feels like there's
eras but in that era in the nineties, he's going
back and forth between the two. So Depp and like
the Reeves stuff, you could actually see that depth in
the Tim Burns stuff. You could actually see that. I
think as Bruce Wayne would have even his Batman would
have felt kind of meek, like he's a very smaller
type of guy, but I could see him fitting in
that world. Right, There's certain things he could have fit with.
For Tim Burns Batman specifically, but like the general classic Batman,
no would have been a not a great choice. So
so that's tough. Yeah, put put them there. Okay, So
the list I have, so this is from last to
top order, Bill Murray, William Baldwin, William Dafoe, sorry to
the to Williams, Mel Gibson, Nicholas Holt. I just put
Holt a bit above Gibson because I think he's a
bit more versus Ah, that's a tough one. I actually
don't know. I just think Holt was not Yeah, I'm
actually gonna put Holt below Gibson. I just think Holt
was not a good option for Batman. He reaves Batman.
I think Passon was a better choice, So Holt, Mel Gibson,
Johnny Depp because I think that's a better actor than Gibson,
and that Erastill go there. He fled your because I
feel like his Bruce Woman have been better. Ethan Hawke.
I just feel I could have been a bit scary
in the Bathsuit Walking Phoenix Killian Murphy, Henry Cavill, Jake Jillhall,
Colin Farrell, Kurt Russell, Pierce Brosnan, Josh Brolin, in the
top three, Arnie Hammer in the top two, and John
Hamm as number one. So yeah, that's the ranking. There's
my topic for the day, and we're ending out a
perfect time, so I hope everyone has a good time.
I'll be back as right now Monday, eleven pm PST.
Obviously the main top is gonna be Wicked, So Mike,
there you go. I will not have seen it. I
Mike almost was going to see the movie because my
sister was like, yeah, I'll take the kids, and then
she's like, yeah, we'll see December seventh, like December seventh,
Like I don't know. I was kind of annoyed because
I was like, the kids are looking very forward to it.
They know what's coming out this week, so I just
kind of hope like other kids don't see, like oh
I've seen this happens. Like so I was gonna Mike.
I was like, ah, fuck it, I'll just take them.
But then you know, much to your delight, there fears
were just sold out. Over the times I I want
to go or just or we could go are sold out,
and then the times that aren't it just can't work
and because of school and whatnot. So I almost thought it,
but there'll be no review, just talk strickly box office.
Can it become the biggest movie of the year. It's
looking like it might beat Minecraft for the biggest opening
of the year, So yeah, we'll see. We'll talk about
that and then whatever news is out there. So thank
you very much. I hope everyone has a good rest
of week. Tune into the rest week. We got Minecraft
Moo retrospective. Never too late. It is for it is
for Monday. There's too much stuff going on now, there's
Nutcracker Saturday. We're going to film again Sunday. It is it,
So yeah, it is too late. I will see it.
Maybe the kids want to see it again in the theater,
I would take them, but I'll see it at home
and kind of go from there. So until then, hope
everyone has a good rest of the week. I'll be
on other casts and we'll be born