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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider or Dick Gabriel

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<v Speaker 1>with you on a Friday edition of our shows, we

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up the week. Coming up, we're gonna preview the

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<v Speaker 1>Belmont with Alis Starr, the uber Kapper. We'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>make a little money. He try to help you make

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<v Speaker 1>a little money as well. On the third Jewel of

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<v Speaker 1>Racing's Triple Crown. No triple Crown winner this year, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but top three finishers from the Kentucky Derby

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<v Speaker 1>will lock up again. Plus it also matches the winner

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<v Speaker 1>of the Derby against the winner of the Preakness, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fun. I loved racing anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's always more fun when there's a triple Crown on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. But Elis will help us with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk to mister Baseball, Brian Milam, sports director

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<v Speaker 1>from WKYT. We will talk football and basketball, but Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll slip in a little bit of baseball as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It is June sixth, It is the anniversary of D Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy, last year on the anniversary of D Day,

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many documentaries I found myself immersed in

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<v Speaker 1>so many specials and docs on world War two. It

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. I'm not sure why. I mean, I'm of

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<v Speaker 1>a certain age where I've been around for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and I've read about World War Two. I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of movies and documentaries, but for some reason last

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<v Speaker 1>year it just seemed like I got into it so

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<v Speaker 1>much more. And you know, watch documentary series and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But the date rolls around again, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a topic of conversation. What's being taught in

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<v Speaker 1>school these days? You know, And we can debate that

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<v Speaker 1>all night long, but you know, it's it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be discussed. Pearl Harbor needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>discussed more than other things. But D Day basically saved

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<v Speaker 1>the free world. And my kids are long out of school,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have no idea what's being taught now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good opportunity now with so many quality products

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<v Speaker 1>out there in terms of documentaries that I really believe

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<v Speaker 1>school should be using those as much as written material

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<v Speaker 1>books or online information about topics like D Day. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching Ken Burns documentary on the Vietnam War. It

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<v Speaker 1>was sensational and just about everything he does really is.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I lived through when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>teenager much younger as well. The Vietnam War and my

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<v Speaker 1>draft class. I was eligible for the draft, but my

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<v Speaker 1>status was one H, which meant one holding because they

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<v Speaker 1>still had the draft back then, but they had stopped

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<v Speaker 1>it for a while, so had they started it back up,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been reassigned a number. They would have

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<v Speaker 1>had that lottery thing where your birthday comes up and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the sides who goes in when. But my draft

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<v Speaker 1>status I had a draft card was one H. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what I knew about the Vietnam War was

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<v Speaker 1>what I heard and read on TV, radio, newspapers, things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But it was, you know, nippets here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do any deep dive until I read some

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<v Speaker 1>things about the Vietnam War. But when I watched Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Burns's documentary, it all came back to me, all the

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<v Speaker 1>names of the places, the battles, the people, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of condensed it and this huge chunk of information,

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<v Speaker 1>And now I have more understanding all these years later

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<v Speaker 1>of the Vietnam War compared to what I have back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. I think that's what they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>use to teach kids today about events like June sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty four. I will tell you this though on

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<v Speaker 1>the lighter side, it is National Donut Day. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>This goes back to World War One. Actually, it began

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty eight as a day to honor and

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<v Speaker 1>recognize Red Cross volunteers who distributed donuts to soldiers in

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<v Speaker 1>World War One, and so they began to recognize National

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<v Speaker 1>Donuts Day in nineteen thirty eight. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there was a National Donut Day. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have told you to date. I didn't know there are

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<v Speaker 1>other donut holidays. National Jelly Filled Donut Day is June eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Sunday. Sometimes it says June ninth, but usually June eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me. I'm a jelly filled donut kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you listen to the show earlier this week

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<v Speaker 1>with Cameron Mills, we talked about donuts at length because Cameron,

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<v Speaker 1>Krispy Kreme donut shop here in Lexington, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>about that with you if you missed it later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. National Cream Filled Donut Day is celebrated on

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<v Speaker 1>September fourteenth. That's a day before my birthday. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a cream filled donut guy. No thanks. National Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Cream Pie Day is October twenty third. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>a Boston cream pied donut. There are free donuts out

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<v Speaker 1>there for the taking. Go to Dunkin Donuts and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's still on this evening. If you buy a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a free donut. Go to Krispy Kreme you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a free donut, and you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen of the originals the original glaze for two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy one dozen at the usual price. So

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<v Speaker 1>she'll end up with two dozen donuts, which is far

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<v Speaker 1>better than one dozen. So Happy National Donut Day to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And a tip of the BBI cap to veterans everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the remaining few served in World War Two, and

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to everybody, including Yankees. Legendary catcher Yogi Bera,

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<v Speaker 1>who served and fought on at Normandy. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>machine gunner and he was in a small watercraft that

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<v Speaker 1>fired machine guns and rockets at the German encampments trying

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the soldiers on the beaches. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stories out there about athletes who served

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<v Speaker 1>not just in World War Two but on d Day

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<v Speaker 1>NBA playoffs last night. If he didn't see it, pull

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<v Speaker 1>it up, even if you're not an NBA fan, bad

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<v Speaker 1>news for former Wildcat Shay Gildess Alexander He and his

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma Thunder teammates blew it. They led for the entire game,

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<v Speaker 1>right up until there were point three seconds left. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when Tyrese Halliburton, with former Wildcat Cason Wallace in his face,

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up and hit a twenty one foot jumper and

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<v Speaker 1>rattled home, erasing a fifteen point Thunder lead and giving

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacers a one to eleven one ten in in

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City. Yeah, that Thunder got got off a lob

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<v Speaker 1>play out of bounce, but the Pacers knocked it away

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<v Speaker 1>with point three seconds left. And we were talking earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week about the fact that Mark Pope likes the

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<v Speaker 1>rule where if you call time out in the closing seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the ball in mid court, And had the

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder completed a play, it would have made his point

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<v Speaker 1>that you had the opportunity with the situation like that

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<v Speaker 1>for an incredible play at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Point three seconds left and you gotta go to the

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<v Speaker 1>link of the court. You got virtually no shot. But

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<v Speaker 1>because of course it was the final moments, okay, see

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<v Speaker 1>calls time out, they get the ball in mid court.

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<v Speaker 1>The only recourse they had was to lob the ball

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<v Speaker 1>at the basket. Everybody knew that you can't get a

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<v Speaker 1>shot off in point three, but Pacers knocked it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Game over. But when we discussed this earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>I also shared a SoundBite from Sporting News is Mike

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<v Speaker 1>de Corsi about how much he hates that rule and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not crazy about it. I see Pope's point, he

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see it in the college game. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sided with Mike de Courci on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was thinking about last night watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder try to lob one in. But now OKAC and

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<v Speaker 1>the championship rounds down one nothing after losing at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pacers just keep coming back. They're that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of team. But they just ground and ground away. Jelgas

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander had thirty eight points in forty minutes with five

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds and three assists. Casein Wallace scored only six points

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<v Speaker 1>couple of rebounds. He did play thirty three minutes, but

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<v Speaker 1>he plays primarily, at least in this series, for defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was there. But Haliburton doing what Aliburton does.

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<v Speaker 1>And now OKC is down one game to nothing. If

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't watch, I get it. Not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>NBA fans around here, but here's what it sounded like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this stuff. First of all, here's the way

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Breen called it on DESPN on ABC. Breen is

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<v Speaker 1>renowned as one of the all time greats. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think a TV guy needs to call

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<v Speaker 1>each and every move of every play like a radio

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<v Speaker 1>guy does. That's what he does in this in insistence

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<v Speaker 1>it works. It was one ten to one on nine

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<v Speaker 1>when the Thunder had the ball. They came down and

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<v Speaker 1>worked for a shot from Gildess Alexander and he got

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<v Speaker 1>off a decent shot, but he missed it. So here

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<v Speaker 1>comes Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Paci's a little chance to win it. Final seconds to

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<v Speaker 2>fouls to do him. Haliverton looking, Caliverton driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Pulls Hauk jump shots that's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Put three tons of a second ramatic time out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see Tyrens. Halliburton does it again.

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<v Speaker 1>There the first lead look the game. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>how Mike Breen called it on ABC. Now here is

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounded like on the Pacers Radio network with

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<v Speaker 1>playboo play man Mike Boyle jil Justess.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexander has it nine to shoot. The defender is Nemar.

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<v Speaker 3>Here comes the left hand bounce, penetrates the arc. Nemark

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<v Speaker 3>cuts him off and he missed off the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the rim. Rebound Indiana eight seconds to go. The Pacers

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<v Speaker 3>are not gonna call a time out. Paddleburton has it

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<v Speaker 3>with three driving with two pulling.

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<v Speaker 1>Up head heading with three tenths of a second to go?

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<v Speaker 3>How many more times can this team do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Soweet's baby?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was Pacers Radio. How about ESPN radio with

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran Mark Kesterscher. He's got to play it down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, but pretty excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It is rebounded by Indiana eight seconds on the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>They're down one. They have timeouts, but they're gonna play it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Halliburton driving thing shut up God.

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<v Speaker 1>With three tenths of a second ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Halliburton does it again.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he do it? Ty Reese Halliburton with another

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<v Speaker 2>shot to bring Indiana from way back. They've got the

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<v Speaker 2>lead here in Game one.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, one of the more interesting things was that

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<v Speaker 1>all three broadcasters took note of the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacers were not calling time out. I think everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking that one way or the other, but U

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<v Speaker 1>and this goes against the grain for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>basketball and got to call time out. No, especially not

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. But these guys are known for being

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<v Speaker 1>able to create shots. So I hate the Pacers from

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<v Speaker 1>my days. I don't hate him, but I hated him

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<v Speaker 1>when I was an ABA fan, a Colonels fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be cool if an Aba team won

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<v Speaker 1>another NBA championship. Certainly the Spurs did it, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been rooting for OKC because of Gilgris Alexander and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're down a game. And by the way, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big story, well one of the sidebars that came

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<v Speaker 1>out of last night's game, and I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about this now because well, it didn't happen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>A station in Fort Wayne, Indiana, which is the second

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<v Speaker 1>That's Ga Garner Buy me Mars. That's from WPTA and

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Mylem with WKYT on six thirty WLAP Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>Football recruiting Kentucky with two commits for twenty six, and

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<v Speaker 1>Messiah Tilson. He's six y two, one sixty five man.

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<v Speaker 1>after safety. Right now, Kentucky with just two commits in

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're following, but of course Texas Tech signed

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders into the championship game against Texas. It's the best

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<v Speaker 1>of three series. They split the first two. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>outfield for a game winning RBI single. Well, Kennedy last

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<v Speaker 1>But the cool story is Jerry Glasgow was the head

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana was in the same old tell as Kentucky. But

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<v Speaker 1>they hired Texas Tech hired away their coach, Jerry Glasgow.

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<v Speaker 1>name of Sam Landry, but he told her, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it looks like we're going to sign this

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<v Speaker 1>And the coach told the player, you know, I value

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship. I think that would change the dynamics of

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship if you're not pitching every day. So why

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<v Speaker 1>or woman I don't know who it is. Glasgow said

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<v Speaker 1>She transferred did Sam Landry to Oklahoma, and sure enough

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety five pitches in the College World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>She has pitched every pitch of every inning of every

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<v Speaker 1>happened since twenty twelve, when Alabama's Jackie Trena threw every

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to check it out, it's on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it through the app and through ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN Texas Texas Tech for the Softball Championship and

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<v Speaker 1>here on six point thirty w LAP welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>hotline as the sports director WKYT. Mister Brian Mylem, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Donut Day. First of all, to you, sir, national donut

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. So that's the seafood diet. Yeah, I get

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<v Speaker 1>it more importantly though what I mentioned earlier. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the universary of day June sixth, nineteen forty four, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one years ago. And you again, you're mister baseball, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you're familiar with a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>stories about baseball players who dropped the ball, dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>bad dropped the glove, and enlisted and served. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Yogi Bear. There are many, many others, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Yogi Bear was there. Normandy Beach is a machine gunner.

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<v Speaker 1>But those stories always tug in my heart strings. Ted

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<v Speaker 1>think those stories are incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it's not just it's incredible that anyone would

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<v Speaker 5>enlist for any national emergency or any situation like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But when a professional athlete, and when you look at

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<v Speaker 5>the names of people who enlisted for World War Two,

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen from the nineteen fifty seven or nineteen forty four

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<v Speaker 5>go on and on and on, and I think of

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<v Speaker 5>moe Berg. Yes, and the most people were like, who's

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<v Speaker 5>mo Burg? He may have been the guy that won

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<v Speaker 5>World War Two and he was a pedestrian catcher. He

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<v Speaker 5>spoke seven languages, and on his trips to teach Japan

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<v Speaker 5>the game of baseball, he also took pictures of the

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<v Speaker 5>city and then the process gave that to the military

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<v Speaker 5>and they had bombing targets because of what mo Burg

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<v Speaker 1>The Catcher was a spy. I think Paul Rush Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't one of your rights. I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 1>that up. That's one of the greatest stories period, much

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<v Speaker 1>less about a baseball player in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, and that and that and those you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they were enlisting in the Marines or in the Navy,

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<v Speaker 5>or wherever. You would not see that today. Uh you

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<v Speaker 5>know Pat Tilm. Pat Tillman is one of the exceptions

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<v Speaker 5>to that rule, and unfortunately he was killed by friendly fire.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it was a different era when there was

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<v Speaker 5>a pride about the country that hey, it's all hands

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<v Speaker 5>on deck, no matter how little money you make, how

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<v Speaker 5>much money you make, your star power, your lack thereof. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it was an important day, uh D Day, but certainly

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<v Speaker 5>the Greatest Generation for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And and I think there's a lot of people that

418
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<v Speaker 5>just in the course of time, things get forgotten. But

419
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<v Speaker 5>I think that's one of the great things about history.

420
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<v Speaker 5>It can't remind you. Hey, if it happened once, who knows,

421
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<v Speaker 5>it could happen again on a different level. But everybody

422
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<v Speaker 5>needs to rally to the cause.

423
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<v Speaker 1>All kinds of clips on social media Twitter, Facebook about it,

424
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<v Speaker 1>so that helps. That keeps people informed. While we're talking

425
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<v Speaker 1>with Brian Milem of w k Y, we have joked

426
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<v Speaker 1>in the past about how phones ring off the hook

427
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<v Speaker 1>at times, and I know you were working last night,

428
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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see it, but it's out there on Twitter

429
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and other spots where the local affiliate in Fort Wayne,

430
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<v Speaker 1>I played the clip earlier cut away the ABC affiliate

431
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<v Speaker 1>cut away from the Pacers Thunder game in the closing

432
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<v Speaker 1>seconds for a newskes got back just in time. And

433
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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you this was a computer generated glitch, but

434
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it could have been avoided. Yeah, but yeah,

435
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<v Speaker 1>ocause I can't imagine anybody at Master Control ticket that's

436
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<v Speaker 1>a good time for a news teez.

437
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<v Speaker 5>You know, well what I know things happened that way.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know at our place, our Master Control offs

439
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>when I was there and when you're there, were such

440
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>huge fans they would forget to do their job because

441
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<v Speaker 1>they're watching a game that we might be televising or

442
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>CBS might have. But you can certainly sympathize, I'm sure

443
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<v Speaker 1>with whoever's answering the phones today.

444
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're You're right. And you know, we live in

445
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<v Speaker 5>a world, in a media world where a lot of

446
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 5>people at the local level will tell you and even

447
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 5>at the coltural level will tell you sports all it's

448
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 5>not that important you get rid of a sporting event.

449
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 6>And I promise you.

450
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 5>Will feel the wrath of a fan base, a city,

451
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 5>a county, a state, a region, whatever it may be.

452
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Don't tell me sports is not important, because it is.

453
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<v Speaker 5>You can see that from the little league level, high school, college,

454
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 5>pro whatever. You just you just don't do it. And

455
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 5>you do hope it was a computer error because if

456
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<v Speaker 5>there was somebody in a newsroom somewhere and said, hey,

457
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<v Speaker 5>I think this would be a great time, said no, person, ever,

458
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<v Speaker 5>let's do that, you know, And yeah, thankfully they bailed

459
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 5>out in time to see the shot. But had they not,

460
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 5>it would have been like the height would be like

461
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<v Speaker 5>the Heidi Game all over again.

462
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and kids look it up, the Heidi Game. It's

463
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 1>a great story. But we don't have the.

464
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 5>Total little bird about that about that, that's right.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Uh. And in all fairness, I will admit that back

466
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<v Speaker 1>in the late eighties w k YT we were showing

467
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<v Speaker 1>the US Open from CBS and it was one of

468
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<v Speaker 1>those great Martina nevertil over think. It was Martina versus

469
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Stephie matches and it went into the last set and

470
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 1>our late great deer dearly depart and loved the man.

471
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Ralph Gabbard did not like tennis golf, would never have

472
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>ordered us to dump out of a golf match. But

473
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 1>he ordered us to dump out of tennis so we

474
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 1>could get the six o'clock news on Oh my god,

475
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the phone calls and there was one person mid level

476
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 1>management in the building at the time. She fielded to

477
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>call and had to tell the people in master mister

478
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Gabbert wants you to dump out, and so she fielded

479
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>all the I felt so bad for her, but everybody

480
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 1>makes mistakes. That was our Heidi game. We're talking Brian

481
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Mylm with WKYT. We'll come back and talk more with

482
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<v Speaker 1>Brian in just a minute here on six point thirty WLAP.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back Brian Mylem as my guest. He is the

484
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>sports director of WKWYT, also a crowd Morehead State Eagle

485
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and a guy who played shortstop. D you want college baseball?

486
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>That said, this is prime portal period out of alliteration

487
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>for anxious angers. And I'm wondering your thoughts on where

488
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>college baseball is now, given the fact that the house

489
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 1>settlement's coming up. Eleven point seven scholies going away. You

490
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have talked about that. You guys didn't even

491
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>have eleven point seven.

492
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't think and more well, yeah, well we did,

493
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 5>and it just so happens. I'm standing next to our

494
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 5>catcher back then, Brad Allison. We were both a part

495
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 5>of that eleven point seven scholarship limit. And when that

496
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 5>goes away, and what are the number like thirty four

497
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 5>scholarships baseball is going to get. And that also means,

498
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, the school is going to have to pulley

499
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 5>up a little bit here because that's money they would

500
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 5>not be getting in the past. Right, And I think

501
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 5>about the Morehead states of the world. EKU, some schools

502
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 5>that are a lower level tier of Yeah, there'd be one,

503
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 5>but they're not Texas, they're not Florida, cal You know

504
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 5>teams in California that can afford in many ways to

505
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 5>swallow some of that money. Morehead State cannot, Murray State cannot.

506
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 5>And now you're going to be giving excuse me, free

507
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 5>scholars the money to a lot more kids for football, basketball,

508
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 5>and no more Head is a non scholarship football program.

509
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 5>But you're really going it's really gonna hurt the school.

510
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 5>It'll help the kids, But then you wonder what the

511
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 5>trickle down effect is going to be, And you know,

512
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 5>the portal is just I like the fact that we

513
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 5>all have opportunities to change and go somewhere that Okay,

514
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't fit it. Bears all go there, but not

515
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 5>every year, not every year. I mean, you know, golly,

516
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 5>you don't change coaches every year because you lost one game.

517
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 5>You don't fire this person, fire that person. You don't

518
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>change your wife every year, your husband every year. You

519
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 5>don't do that. You've got to fight through a little something.

520
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 5>And I like, what, oh though, the big kid from

521
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 5>Kansas the Center, he said, you know, hey, it's going

522
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 5>to be like a two year deal. You sign, you're

523
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 5>here for two years at least, and you get one transfer.

524
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 5>But there's no sense and being a guy that transfers

525
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 5>to five schools in six years or four schools in

526
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 5>five years. And talk to you.

527
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>You and I have passed about the fact that you

528
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>played for your dad in high school and he was

529
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>tough on you help make you a good player. You

530
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 1>ended up playing D one baseball and that helped you

531
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>at the college level when you look back on it.

532
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Though I'm not entirely forgive me familiar with your entire

533
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 1>career of Morehead State. I know you had some success individually,

534
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>but had the portal been there, would you at some point?

535
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you would have thought about it, but how

536
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>tempting would it have been for you, as a D

537
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>one baseball player to step in and maybe improve your

538
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 1>lot in life.

539
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.799
<v Speaker 5>The first six months, the first six months of a

540
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 5>freshman's career at any sport, at any school, is the

541
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 5>most challenging because you're away from home, more than likely,

542
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 5>you're around tougher competition for the first time, more than

543
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 5>like you. It is gut check time. And I remember

544
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 5>two and a half, three months into my freshman year

545
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 5>at Moorhead, I told being a young, dumb eighteen year

546
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 5>old kid, I said, yeah, I just don't know. I'm

547
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 5>thinking about leaving. And a guy named Donnie Hackworth, who

548
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 5>was from Paintsville, pulled me to the side and he said,

549
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 5>do you understand the opportunity you have right now? He said,

550
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 5>you're going to start and you're going to play all

551
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 5>the time, but you've got to suck it up and

552
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 5>be mentally tough here. And that was a come to

553
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 5>Jesus meeting. And another guy named Mike Perguson gave me

554
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 5>one of those one day also. He said, you don't

555
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 5>see what everybody else sees. And I didn't. I was

556
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 5>away from home. I was scared a little bit. I

557
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 5>didn't know what to do, but I stuck it out,

558
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, I was blessed to have a nice career.

559
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 5>But I think kids get so enamored by the massage

560
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 5>of social media, by the massage of oh, you can

561
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 5>be over here, you will do this for us, and

562
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 5>we're going to give you more money. And well, yeah,

563
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna get more money, but Uncle Sam's going to

564
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 5>take forty percent of.

565
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 6>That pretty far fast.

566
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if those kids understand that. Some do,

567
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 5>some do. I think I think people with a good

568
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 5>financial understanding of how things work, like Jasper Johnson, Dennis Johnson,

569
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 5>that Johnson family and Alvis taught them, well, hey, this

570
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 5>is what's gonna happen here with this money. You're ya,

571
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna get a million bucks to come to school.

572
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 5>Well it's not really a million, because let's strike down

573
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 5>all the taxes that are involved in YadA, YadA, YadA.

574
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 5>But kids, uh, I guess it's I guess now that

575
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm fifty one years old, I'm officially in that age

576
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 5>bracket of well, when I was younger, Bill in the blank, true,

577
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:46.960
<v Speaker 5>I gotta.

578
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Think Dennis Johnson might have been able to show his

579
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>son one of his old NFL pay stubs. You know,

580
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.119
<v Speaker 1>here's what but here's what I took home, Uh, exactly sobering.

581
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Brian Milem of w KYT sports director

582
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in his covered sports in the state of Kentucky between

583
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 1>a state at KYT and WYMT and Hazard for a

584
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>long time. Well, speaking of the portal, the basketball team

585
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 1>you cover Mark Pope's ball club. He's put together a

586
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>nice roster. Mark Stoops roster is a bit of a

587
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>mystery right now. We'll find out it's it's going to

588
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>be on top of us soon enough. As you know,

589
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you'll be keeping an eye on the offensive

590
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>line as everybody else will. But it does, I mean,

591
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>for both both teams. It really changes the way you

592
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>cover these programs, doesn't it. With the way these kids

593
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>now are coming and going.

594
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like when we were kids,

595
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 5>you look at the back of a baseball card and

596
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 5>for the majority of the players you saw one or

597
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 5>two team.

598
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

599
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 5>And now if you had a basketball card for some

600
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 5>of these kids, if they stayed five years, wow, different schools,

601
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 5>different school, different school, different school and the portal is

602
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 5>the game changer of all game change maybe in the

603
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 5>history of collegiate sports. I don't know, nil slash portal.

604
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 5>And uh, you know, I try as I get older

605
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 5>to not get overly excited and anticipate things that could happen.

606
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 5>But what Mark Pope has done with this ball club,

607
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of hard not to look ahead and say,

608
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 5>if they stay healthy and they get the right breaks, folks,

609
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 5>you could be looking at that third that third fourth

610
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>week in March and that early first week in April.

611
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not it's not out of the realm

612
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 5>of possibility. Golly, it's a stacked lineup and now he's

613
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 5>got to find a way to massage the egos or

614
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 5>one basketball one a deep bench, whatever. But you know,

615
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 5>like but for the portal. You know, James McCoy is

616
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 5>baseball player. He wants to play every day, and that's

617
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 5>one of the main reasons he's leaving or testing the portals.

618
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 5>The guys want to play every day, and that's fine,

619
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 5>and I get it. I would want the same thing

620
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 5>if I were still uh you know, know, athletically and climb.

621
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 5>But and but, GOLLI you know, the portal is that

622
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 5>they've got to come up with something to stop the

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<v Speaker 5>swell of influx. I remember when Tubby Smith was still

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<v Speaker 5>at Memphis before he left there to go back to

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<v Speaker 5>High Point or wherever, there was like eight hundred transfers

626
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<v Speaker 5>the first time the transfer window opened. And now there's

627
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<v Speaker 5>in the thousands that the five figures of all sports,

628
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<v Speaker 5>and it's just out of control. And if the NCAA

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<v Speaker 5>ever wants to save itself, maybe they've got to find

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<v Speaker 5>a way right now to stop it. But I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to quote Rich Brooks, you know, the horses

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<v Speaker 5>out of the barn and some other things are out

633
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<v Speaker 5>of the horse, and you can't put it back either.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I think that everybody knows the needs guardrails,

635
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<v Speaker 1>and said is the member institutions, And then I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you one hundred plus percent would love more guardrails. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think in his day and age, Brian and I've

638
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<v Speaker 1>got about a minute left, they're afraid of being sued again,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, the players banding together and working in

640
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<v Speaker 1>on some crafty lawyers getting together. But I honestly think

641
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<v Speaker 1>in the long run it could ruin sports.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, so you know, I don't know if guardrails

643
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<v Speaker 5>are even viable at this point. I mean, you're on

644
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<v Speaker 5>the autobond without guardrails and there's no speed limits, and

645
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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be tough to put the genie back in

646
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<v Speaker 5>the bottle here. But rules are rules, but somehow everybody

647
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<v Speaker 5>seems to expedite the rules and figure out a way

648
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<v Speaker 5>around things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Well, I appreciate your time. As always, we

650
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<v Speaker 1>could go on all night about this stuff. But as

651
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<v Speaker 1>I like to say, you know, you're one of the

652
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<v Speaker 1>few guys on the beat who knows what it's like

653
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<v Speaker 1>to face a Division one fastball. Who what was the

654
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<v Speaker 1>best D one fastball you ever saw?

655
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<v Speaker 5>Ninety eight at Western Carolina. I saw these scouts around

656
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<v Speaker 5>the fence. I'm thinking that's eighty eight. Well that was

657
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<v Speaker 5>just as warm up. This pitch was a strike and

658
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<v Speaker 5>I looked at the umpire and he was what I said,

659
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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see it. It doesn't sounded good.

660
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<v Speaker 1>Who was it, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. He was about six three and skinny,

662
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<v Speaker 5>and he had a small vapor trail coming off the

663
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<v Speaker 5>backside of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, yeah, I actually I faced a kid

665
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<v Speaker 1>in uh I guess I was sixteen or seventeen who

666
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<v Speaker 1>ended up in the Pirates or Cardinals chain and struck

667
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<v Speaker 1>me out on three pitches. I never saw, so I

668
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<v Speaker 1>know the at the on level, but he eventually was

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<v Speaker 1>at triple A, so I know the feeling. Brian Mylin

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<v Speaker 1>wky T. Thank you so much, sir, Thank you buddy,

671
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<v Speaker 1>every good one. By the way, Brian covering a softball

672
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<v Speaker 1>game right now, so that's why it's so noisy. Up next,

673
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<v Speaker 1>the uber Kapper Elis Starr is going to break down

674
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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming Belmont Steakes. Tomorrow's Belmont Steaks here on six thirty.

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<v Speaker 7>W laput such stake.

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<v Speaker 8>Taking the s anything anything back out.

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<v Speaker 1>Such Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider joining

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<v Speaker 1>us now we love talking horse racing with the uber

679
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<v Speaker 1>Kapper Ellis Starr. You see his work on Twitter. You

680
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>need to follow him. He's also got a podcast. Ellis

681
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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody how to find your podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>It's at amwager dot com, which is one of the

683
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<v Speaker 6>legal betting sites, but you don't have to have an account.

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<v Speaker 6>Just go to mwagard dot com A m W A

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<v Speaker 6>g E R or if you follow me on Twitter

686
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<v Speaker 6>at Blue Sky, I posted bout it. It's the Key

687
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<v Speaker 6>Races and bets I call it, and it's a blog.

688
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 6>And then I just recorded as a podcast as well

689
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<v Speaker 6>weekly about ten twelve minutes, covering anywhere from two to

690
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<v Speaker 6>five big races around the country on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I've said as many times, and I'm not

692
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<v Speaker 1>doing this just to patronize my guest, but I have

693
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<v Speaker 1>won money with Elis on his picks of the day.

694
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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you folks that just pick your spots

695
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<v Speaker 1>like anything, but it's.

696
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<v Speaker 6>Always Did we talk last before last's emote?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, I don't know.

698
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<v Speaker 6>Because that was that was when I was just lucky,

699
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<v Speaker 6>just talking somebody the other days, so I had to

700
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<v Speaker 6>remind myself because I had a profile of it. I

701
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<v Speaker 6>picked Doorknock at the Belmont and perid a big price

702
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<v Speaker 6>because I thought he had had no shot in the

703
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<v Speaker 6>Derby because he had lost speed and had an inside

704
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<v Speaker 6>posts and so he got a different post. And you know,

705
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<v Speaker 6>people think with longer race, even a mile on a quarter,

706
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<v Speaker 6>which is last year and this year as a Saratoga,

707
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<v Speaker 6>that the longer races mean that you know, horses come

708
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<v Speaker 6>from behind, but no, you really need some tactical speed

709
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<v Speaker 6>and door Knock had the speed last year. So if

710
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<v Speaker 6>I made your money last year, I'm happy. If not,

711
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<v Speaker 6>maybe we can make you and a listener some money.

712
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<v Speaker 1>Of course. One of door Knock's owners of Jason Wirth,

713
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>a retired baseball player who stands out in a crowd.

714
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<v Speaker 1>He's a big guy, got all that hair, generally wearing

715
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<v Speaker 1>a hat. I don't know about you, but I kind

716
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<v Speaker 1>of think that's good for the sport, you know, because

717
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<v Speaker 1>you're always we're always looking to capture new fans, and

718
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<v Speaker 1>I think he at least draws attention, doesn't he.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, no, we have a lot of that, and

720
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<v Speaker 6>it didn't good. There's I can't remember the kid's name now,

721
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 6>but this influencer with millions of followers Instagram that it's

722
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<v Speaker 6>called the stake at Stardom was his idea of America's

723
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 6>best racing in West Point and they gave him a

724
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<v Speaker 6>piece of Sandman and you know, it's it's fantastic. I mean,

725
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<v Speaker 6>I certainly one hundred agree with getting big names in it,

726
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, to lay Toby Keith had a big stake

727
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<v Speaker 6>in operation. His wife still continuing it. But when he

728
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 6>was in he talked about it a lot. When people

729
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 6>were interviewing him on out of the stuff, he mentioned

730
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<v Speaker 6>horse racing and Jason Worth being involved and a few

731
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 6>other people are getting into it now, so it's good.

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<v Speaker 6>We need to broaden our horizons with the different owners

733
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<v Speaker 6>and of course lots of different demographics.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's still all that active, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know Rick Patino. One of the reasons he wanted

736
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<v Speaker 1>to come back to the state of Kentucky into U

737
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<v Speaker 1>of L was well, first of all, I couldn't take

738
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<v Speaker 1>the UK job. It wasn't open, so he took U

739
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<v Speaker 1>of L. He wanted to be back near horse racing

740
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<v Speaker 1>as well. He mentioned that how much he loved being

741
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<v Speaker 1>around the barns in the morning, and he had a

742
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Derby horse one year. I remember that. Although I do

743
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<v Speaker 1>remember ls, you'll appreciate that that. Somebody asked C. M.

744
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<v Speaker 1>Newton when he got here, Hey, are you going to

745
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<v Speaker 1>get involved in racing like you know some of the

746
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>other people Rick Patino, and he said, my father once

747
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>told me never invest in anything that eats while you sleep.

748
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<v Speaker 1>So he stayed away. He stayed way from horse racing. Well,

749
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<v Speaker 1>let's get let's get to the business at hand, right now,

750
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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about bigger picture in a minute. But the

751
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<v Speaker 1>Belmont steaks, as we said at Sarah Toga this year,

752
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<v Speaker 1>a field of eight at the shorter track. So it's

753
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<v Speaker 1>a mile and a quarter. And you told me off

754
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<v Speaker 1>the air you prefer that that distance in lieu of

755
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<v Speaker 1>a mile and a half. Is that right?

756
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<v Speaker 6>I guess I should say I don't mind it. You know,

757
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<v Speaker 6>people talk about, you know, the way it's always been,

758
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<v Speaker 6>and you'll go back to a mile and a half.

759
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 6>Belmont is rebuilding their racetrack and a new facility, a

760
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<v Speaker 6>great footprint with a lot of upscale amenities, and it'll

761
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<v Speaker 6>be ready for twenty twenty seven because they'll host the

762
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<v Speaker 6>Breeders Cup. Keino host Breeders Cup in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't mind a mile and a quarter because

764
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<v Speaker 6>it's really the same as the Derby the mile and

765
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<v Speaker 6>a half. It does make it special, though, when a

766
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<v Speaker 6>horse does win the trip Crown, they really accomplished something,

767
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<v Speaker 6>not only three races in five weeks, but no horses

768
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<v Speaker 6>ever run a mile and a half to that point,

769
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<v Speaker 6>and certainly the horses that have won the triple Crown

770
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<v Speaker 6>have been worried of it by virtue of doing both

771
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<v Speaker 6>those accomplishments, the five weeks, three races and all, so

772
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<v Speaker 6>running a mile and a half. But it's harder for

773
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<v Speaker 6>horses to run. They're not bread for it as much

774
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<v Speaker 6>and they need a certain amount of stamina. But the

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<v Speaker 6>mile quarter is just fine with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you weren't surprised covering the sport as long

777
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<v Speaker 1>as you have knowing these trainers that Bill Mott chose

778
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<v Speaker 1>not to run the Derby winner in the Precknet. He's

779
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<v Speaker 1>not a big fan of running three year olds and

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<v Speaker 1>a mile and a quarter on the first Saturday in May.

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<v Speaker 1>Disappointed to a lot of people. But how did you

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<v Speaker 1>take that news?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I was disappointed, but not surprised. I mean, certainly,

784
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<v Speaker 6>first of all, you're going to do what's right by

785
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<v Speaker 6>the war. Second of all, he doesn't lose any value

786
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 6>not running in the practice, and that's really unfortunately pragmatically,

787
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<v Speaker 6>that's the way it is, because you know, the horse

788
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<v Speaker 6>goes from being worth maybe a few million being worth

789
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<v Speaker 6>thirty forty fifty million. Yes, what you could accomplish in

790
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<v Speaker 6>the prectice. If you lose, you don't lose value, but

791
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<v Speaker 6>you certainly don't gain die and if you win, okay,

792
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 6>you're not really gaining that much value, So what do

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<v Speaker 6>you do? Plus it's good Dolfsen. One of the world

794
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<v Speaker 6>class operations is farms here in Kentucky, a couple in

795
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<v Speaker 6>Australia and Europe and all over the world. So you know,

796
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<v Speaker 6>they don't really care. He's going to stand, you know,

797
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<v Speaker 6>at their farm when he's done, so he's really not

798
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<v Speaker 6>going to be syndicated. They might get some partners, but

799
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<v Speaker 6>probably not. And therefore, you know there's nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to do what's right, and you want to

801
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 6>win the Belmont. You also want to you know, you

802
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<v Speaker 6>really have a good three year old. You're going to

803
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<v Speaker 6>want to save him for later in the year to

804
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<v Speaker 6>run on the Travelers and hopefully the Breeders Cup and

805
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<v Speaker 6>then retire and then go to stud So I certainly

806
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<v Speaker 6>understand it disappointed like everybody else. But on the other hand,

807
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 6>we had held frequescy only I mean with journalism getting

808
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 6>trapped at the quarter pole and showing.

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<v Speaker 5>What makes a thoroughbred a thoroughbrid, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Just saying I'm not going to lose this race. He

811
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<v Speaker 6>made up five lengths in an eighth of a mile.

812
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is a heroic move. Some people thought

814
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<v Speaker 1>there was some chicanery there that maybe he should have

815
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<v Speaker 1>been there should have been a foul claim against him,

816
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>but no, I just think that that was racing, robins

817
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<v Speaker 1>racing and horse racing too.

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00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 6>It's race riding. Yeah, what I commented to somebody who

819
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<v Speaker 6>was sometimes in racist jockeys will ride two races at

820
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<v Speaker 6>once because not only the trying to win, but they're

821
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<v Speaker 6>also trying to ensure that their toughest competition doesn't get

822
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<v Speaker 6>any advantage. And that's what Pratt was doing. He didn't

823
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<v Speaker 6>know that his horse was running out of gas at

824
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<v Speaker 6>that time. He ate the horse on the rail was

825
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 6>kind of running out of gas, but Pratts rush wasn't

826
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<v Speaker 6>necessarily running out of gas at that point, and he

827
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<v Speaker 6>was trying to keep journalism kind of trapped in while

828
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<v Speaker 6>he was accelerating, and that you're allowed to do that. Unfortunately,

829
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<v Speaker 6>he also hit him, which is another issue, but since

830
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<v Speaker 6>he's finished behind them, there's really no foul there.

831
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Hello Star, he is the uber Capper

832
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about, of course, the upcoming Beaumont Stakes

833
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at Saratoga an ADOR's field, and yes no triple

834
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>crown on the line, but a fascinating field because the

835
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 1>top three finishers in the Derby are reunited, plus Derby

836
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.079
<v Speaker 1>winner versus Preakness winner and some new sh shooters. As

837
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>always Kenny McPeak, we talked with him last week over

838
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 1>at his barn. He really loves sovereignty. Once again, that's

839
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the second choice right now, journalism is top choice at

840
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>eight to five. Is it going to be one of

841
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>these two ls? You think.

842
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 6>He would be one of those two or Baas and Baza.

843
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 6>I think that's the horse that I picked on top,

844
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 6>not only because he had to value at four to

845
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 6>one on the starting odds, but also because there's an

846
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 6>experience issue here. So this is a horse and I

847
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 6>know we talked for the Derby. First of all, talk

848
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:33.280
<v Speaker 6>about pedigree. So he's by the damn Puka who produced

849
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 6>made the Derby winner two years ago, produced door Knock,

850
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 6>who might have won the Derby if he hadn't had

851
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 6>a horrible post, and did win the Belmont last year.

852
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 6>And then the same damn is now produced bays And

853
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 6>who just got a late start. And this is where

854
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 6>experience comes in and you think of thoroughbred's as athletes.

855
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 6>You know, Baeza when he first ran in December, Sovereignty

856
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 6>had already run three times, Journalism had already run twice,

857
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 6>and Journalism, you know, two weeks later won a stake

858
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 6>trace and Soigny and Sovereignty had already won a stake trace.

859
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 6>He wanted the three cents of Turchill down. So Beza

860
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 6>had a big experience, you know, lapse momentally and physically,

861
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 6>and Jerrem Beza did. And in his second start he

862
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 6>ran second to Rodriguez, who's back in this race. And Regaz,

863
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 6>of course is a horse that he needs to lead

864
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 6>to winning and a foot problem, crashed out of the derby,

865
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 6>but he's only a horse that wins on the league,

866
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.880
<v Speaker 6>and he controlled the tempo and then when Beza, you know,

867
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 6>got a little better trip that next time out, he

868
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 6>exploded and he won by almost five lengths. And then

869
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 6>he put him in the Sandy Derby and he gave

870
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 6>the experience problem. He's not a problem, but he experienced

871
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 6>the issue where Beesa makes the lead. He doesn't really

872
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 6>know what to do at that point. With Nathan Miles

873
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.480
<v Speaker 6>Ago and Journalism, by virtue of having run two more times.

874
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Journalism had run, baaz had run three times, Generals had

875
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 6>run five right, and Journalism just poured it on and

876
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 6>beat him. And then he comes back on the Derby

877
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 6>and then you get the same problem Bason's fifteen. After

878
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 6>let's say three quarters of a mile, He's Journalism is

879
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 6>tenth at that point. Sovereignty is further back at sixteenth.

880
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 6>But they both extricate from traffic and Bazakats kind of

881
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 6>stuck their studied about the five sixteenths of a mile

882
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 6>and then he loses second by a neck with a

883
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 6>really good rally. Today in the Belmont, now he doesn't

884
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 6>have to pass He was nineteenth at the beginning of

885
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 6>the Jervy, so now he doesn't have to pass eighteen horses.

886
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 6>He only the past seven. And I think he's caught

887
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 6>up an experience, so I think he could win the race.

888
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 1>You know that mattered. I mean people who may not

889
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>know or follow as much horse racing, but they're not

890
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>just out there running, you know, for the heck of it.

891
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, they take at least the good horses do.

892
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, I'll never forget Silver Charm was one

893
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite derby winners. What was it ninety seven

894
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and he beat a horse named Captain Bodgett. It was

895
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 1>really good. Those horses didn't like each other. They knew

896
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that from when they were around each other in the arms,

897
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and so silver Charm. He you know, he raced more

898
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 1>than once against Captain Bodgett, and when that horse came

899
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>up on him, he kick it into a different gear.

900
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, yeah, they're not all like that, are they,

901
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of them are. And as you point out,

902
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>if an experienced horse is on the front end, he

903
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what's supposed to happen next, and so experience matters.

904
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Elis Star, the uber Capper. We'll come

905
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more about the Bellmont in just a

906
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>minute here on six thirty wlap. Welcome back. We're talking

907
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 1>to Elis Starr. He is the uber capper. That's his

908
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>handle on Twitter or x if you will. And of

909
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 1>course we're talking about tomorrow's Belmont Stakes. A field of

910
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>eight at Saratoga Track not big enough to handle a

911
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>mile and a half race, so it's a mile and

912
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a quarter. And if the field of eight includes some,

913
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 1>as Ellis said, some really interesting horses, speed horses do

914
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you like either or any I think there are what

915
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 1>four long shots. I heard one of the talking kids

916
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about Crudo. I think that's a pletcher horse. What

917
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 1>do you like about him him? If anything?

918
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, Crudo, So this is interesting. Crudeo is owned by

919
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 6>Bobby Flay and for the any of that watches any

920
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 6>of the food Yes, you know, Crudo is a food term,

921
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 6>and Bobby said, incrude horses and career. Cruis a really

922
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.119
<v Speaker 6>nice horse. He won the Sir Barton Steaks on the

923
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 6>Freakness undercard. What's interesting is in terms of how fast

924
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 6>he ran when you look at the call Echo base

925
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 6>speed figure which normalizes time based on track journalism, got

926
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 6>a one nine and Crudo got one hundred one hundred

927
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 6>on the same day. But Crude doesn't need the lead

928
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 6>type at least since two wins, has only went around

929
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 6>two turns. And that's the problem is Rodriguez is inside

930
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 6>of him. Crudo is a really nice horse. He's gonna

931
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 6>have a great career. He's by a triple Crown winner, Justify,

932
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 6>and he's in good hands. But unfortunately Roriguez is going

933
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 6>to go for the lead and Crude at this time

934
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 6>with both with a when the horses both of the

935
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 6>winds or all their winds are only shown and leadings

936
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 6>from start to finish. He just, you know the old

937
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 6>cliche leopard doesn't change his spots, right, So I don't

938
00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 6>think he can change his style. Maybe Putterer's been training

939
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 6>that way. We'll find out. But based on what you

940
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 6>see on paper, Crudo on Rigaz, both Rodriguez both seem

941
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 6>to want the lead hill roads. Interesting as a horse

942
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 6>that came on for third at sixty to one in

943
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 6>the Breeders Cup last November, then he was off till March.

944
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 6>He ran third, and then he won the peter Pan Stakes,

945
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 6>which two horses have come back to win the Belmont

946
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 6>Tonalists and Archangelo two years ago won the Belmonts and

947
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 6>the peter Pan. But those are both a mile and

948
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 6>a half, so that's a prep that works. He doesn't

949
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 6>see he's trained by Chad Brown. He's nothing been a

950
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.719
<v Speaker 6>great pedigree. Another horse that I might consider having a shot.

951
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.360
<v Speaker 6>I'd like him better than Rodriguez or Crudo. They could

952
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 6>hold on. But you've got three three closures in the

953
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 6>race and journalism, sovereignty and Baeza. So I think the

954
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 6>speed horses are going to get pretty tired. Hill Road

955
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 6>could probably be in the money. Is one of the

956
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 6>long shots.

957
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm big on the closers. Although horses have stolen races.

958
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, last year Baffer Tours stole the Freakness, so

959
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>in the most famous man be winning Colors, winning the

960
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Derby the Philly by stealing the race. A few

961
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 1>minutes left with Ellis Starr, we're talking, of course about

962
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the Belmont Stakes coming up. I think you and I

963
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 1>may have talked about this briefly last year, but once

964
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>again Bill Mott's decision kind of reignited the human cry

965
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about changing the calendar for the Triple Crown. I have

966
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of done a one eighty on it, Ellis. Now,

967
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>with the way that trainers have changed the way they're

968
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>bringing up horses because of the huge purses, they don't

969
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 1>have to run every two to three weeks to make

970
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 1>their money. You know, they can hold off and just

971
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>run periodically and go after those and so that means

972
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the breed has changed. And again to your point, to

973
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 1>do what's best for the horse, I think I kind

974
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of think they I hate what I would kind of

975
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>regret seeing them do it, but I understand if they

976
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>change the calendar, because that's what's best for the horses,

977
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

978
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 6>Well, to your point, you know what's the goal? So

979
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.599
<v Speaker 6>is the goal to make it better for the horses?

980
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 6>They have longer careers and three year olds and are

981
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 6>really not if they're that good, they're going to retire

982
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 6>because they've got all the value for a staid career.

983
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Is the goal to get more fan engagement and get

984
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 6>more betting. That's the possible reason to do it, only

985
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 6>because if you had spread it out so that the

986
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 6>last ones in the fall. But I read a bunch

987
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 6>of stories about how it goes up against college sports,

988
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 6>how it goes up against the major leagues baseball, you know,

989
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 6>things like that.

990
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 5>What do you do?

991
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 6>Then by having it, you know, in by having the

992
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 6>third part of the Tipple Crown in June, you really

993
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.239
<v Speaker 6>aren't competing the same thing. As soon as you start

994
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 6>moving this September, then you've got a problem. So do

995
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 6>you get more do you get more betting? Are the

996
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 6>horses doing it? And then you've got the issues where

997
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 6>you've got this the Midcember deruby they call the travers

998
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 6>right at Saratoga, that's already there at the million in

999
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 6>the quarter and that's a really important race and it's

1000
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 6>two much before the Breeders' Cup. So what you know,

1001
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.800
<v Speaker 6>what's the reason you're doing if you're doing it for

1002
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 6>the breede Nah, I don't know that the doing, you know,

1003
00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 6>make it you're not going to get more horses. I

1004
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.119
<v Speaker 6>think by spreading it out. If you're doing it for handle,

1005
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 6>maybe even then you run into this issue of competition,

1006
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 6>and so that's a big deal. On the other end

1007
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.079
<v Speaker 6>of the way it's been certainly when a horse does

1008
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 6>accomplish the goal of even winning two out of the three,

1009
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 6>but certainly all three, they mean something because you've done

1010
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 6>You've run just you've never run before, You've done it

1011
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 6>in five weeks, and you've got to be, you know,

1012
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:26.719
<v Speaker 6>in the best fitness of your career to do it.

1013
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I agree with that much. But I just

1014
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I get so tired of hearing about how all this

1015
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 1>sport's on its last legs and all that. I'm thinking

1016
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 1>about the eyeballs it brings. And you're right, you can't,

1017
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't back it up too much. But I like

1018
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 1>the first weekend in May, first weekend in June, first

1019
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>weekend in July, which is just a no man's land

1020
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>other than Big League Baseball in terms of sports. I

1021
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>think that would work, but you know it's, uh, you

1022
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>got to get the tracks to all agree, and I

1023
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's ever going to happen, right, Yeah.

1024
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 6>Well I think I could agree that the other isshue

1025
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.519
<v Speaker 6>distance again, you know, you want the fall on it.

1026
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 6>A mile and a quarters. They didn't get more horses

1027
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 6>than a mile and a half. And you know, there's

1028
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 6>been a lot of recent on social media looking back

1029
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 6>at some of the best Belmonts and the Dullmants had

1030
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot of short fields regardless of whether there's been

1031
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 6>a Triple Crown contender in the race, because no one

1032
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 6>wants to run against him, you know what I mean,

1033
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 6>because of verses one, two in a row? How am

1034
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 6>I going to be? Then there's I'm gonna I'm going

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00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 6>to play the spoiler. But you don't get big field

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00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 6>in the Belmont. So maybe it's distance as apposed to timing.

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00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 6>There's no way to know. You can try things, but

1038
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 6>because of you know, major television, it's very difficult to

1039
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 6>plan ahead that four or five year contracts, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>with the major networks.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love when there's a triple crown. Don't know,

1042
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody does. When there's a triple crown possibility. Everybody loves that.

1043
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And to me, more of that, please, is what I'm saying. Uh,

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00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up when I did, when you did,

1045
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:01.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, people loved teams had long winning streaks, people

1046
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.079
<v Speaker 1>loved boxers who were undefeated, people loved triple crown winners.

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00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It was like the country came together. I remember when

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00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>American Pharaoh won the triple crown. I was at a

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00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>at a wedding reception, and uh, I went downstairs. It

1050
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 1>was at a facility in Louisville. I went downstairs to

1051
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:21.599
<v Speaker 1>the to the public area of the bar to watch

1052
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the race because upstairs the reception didn't have a TV.

1053
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I watched American Pharaoh win the triple crown, and I

1054
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.039
<v Speaker 1>went upstairs and there was a pause in the music,

1055
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and I yelled American Pharaoh won a triple crown, and

1056
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the whole place went nuts. So I just like stuff

1057
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know what I mean, Not that I

1058
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>have to announce it, but just that everybody loves that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it was bound. I mean, the study have

1060
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 6>been done at Belmont Park when there's triple ground the

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00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 6>line you know it's two to three times to handle

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00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 6>in the bedding.

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00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Then when it's not, Yeah, no, I love that. I

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00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>love that.

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00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 6>I do you achieved that?

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00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 5>It's a big question.

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00:58:56.920 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That's right, so to recap you like Biaza because of

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00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the past.

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00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 6>By yeah, the price, and also because I'd experienced. I mean,

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00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 6>certainly it's going to be a good win bet. I

1071
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 6>can't see much past sovereignty and journalism, so I play exactly.

1072
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:14.039
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't box. I wouldn't say exactly box of sovereignty

1073
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 6>journalism the two favorites, but i'd box Bys and Salvaggy

1074
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 6>box base and journalism. I wouldn't argue with someone that

1075
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 6>thought Rodriguez recruito could hang on where the hill road

1076
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 6>might be able to get up for a second. But

1077
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 6>for me, most of the race for me is via

1078
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 6>the wind bet because I think he is the right

1079
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 6>horse at the right time.

1080
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 1>It's all about the value and Baza offers that. Plus

1081
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>he's got some pretty good speed figures behind his name.

1082
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Once again, our thanks to Elis Star. We always check

1083
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Ellis pick of the day. You can follow him on

1084
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Twitter at uber Kapper tell everybody again how to find

1085
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 1>your podcast.

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00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 6>It's an Amazon dot com. I do pcap, but you

1087
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 6>can check the Race the Week every week at equobased

1088
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 6>dot com. It's a national Race of the Week and

1089
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:57.840
<v Speaker 6>usually post my links to other all my other blogs

1090
00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 6>on Twitter and on Blue Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, as always, have a great Belmont Day.

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01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 6>Thanks Vick Co. Look everybody, and when.

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01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 1>We come back, we'll take a look back at the

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01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 1>week that was. I had Heroes, Fools and Flakes on

1095
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Inside,

1096
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to take a look back at some

1097
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of the things we discussed this past week in case

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01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you missed. But before we do that, I did want

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01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.159
<v Speaker 1>to bring up a couple of things. Brian Milin mentioned

1100
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 1>a Heidi game and I said, look it up. I

1101
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like I really need to share this with you

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01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>kids out there. And you know what, I'm pretty sure

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01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I was watching this game back in nineteen sixty eight. Yes,

1104
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just a kid. I was with thirteen years old,

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01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and back then, of course there were only three networks

1106
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 1>plus PBS, but on NFL Sundays that's what you watched,

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01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.599
<v Speaker 1>and there was a huge game matching the Oakland Raiders,

1108
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean the old school, traditional bad boy Oakland Raiders

1109
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and the New York Jets of Joe Namath. And this

1110
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was on November the seventeens regular season game, but it

1111
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 1>was a big game. NBC back then had the old AFL, right,

1112
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they know they weren't the AFC yet

1113
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>they were still the AFL. NBC switched away from that

1114
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 1>game period for good. It wasn't just a drop in

1115
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 1>fluke like that station in Fort Wayne. No, NBC decided

1116
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 1>this game is over, sixty five seconds left and it

1117
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was tight. I mean it was like thirty two to

1118
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. I think. Well, the Raiders scored two touchdowns

1119
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in a nine to second span to win at forty

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01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 1>three to thirty two. And that is what the rage

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01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>after that, not just from Raider fans and Jet fans,

1122
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 1>but NFL fans in general, is what prompted the networks

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01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 1>to start shifting time. I mean, Oakland scores three touchdowns

1124
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter to come from mine and win

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01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:05.039
<v Speaker 1>that game. The Jets and Raiders met again later in December,

1126
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.079
<v Speaker 1>late twenty ninth of December in New York in the

1127
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:12.480
<v Speaker 1>AFL Championship game. The Jets won that game twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty three. Two weeks later they beat the Colts

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01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 1>in Super Bowl three. Yes it was that New York

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01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Jets team. Once again, it is National Donut Day, and

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week here in the garage, Camer Mills joined us.

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01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 1>We talked about wasted time, the whole segment on how

1133
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Cameron wants to start his own line of cold brew coffee,

1134
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and somehow we got to talking about donuts, and I

1135
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 1>brought up an important chapter in Camera Mills history when

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01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he tried to single handedly bring Krispy Kreme Donuts to

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01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:51.559
<v Speaker 1>lexingon coming out of UK pre and il. Of course,

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01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 1>you guys were part of the Barnstorming Tour, which is

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01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a great tell.

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01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 9>There was one every year, right, yeah.

1141
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Great tradition, and so you had a little a change

1142
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 1>in your pocket.

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01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 10>Well, we had just won a national championship, which is

1144
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 10>always funny if you look back at the autograph set,

1145
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.280
<v Speaker 10>the guys who graduate and autograph stess as they get

1146
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 10>to do which again it's completely different now. They get

1147
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.639
<v Speaker 10>to do them while they were players. But if you

1148
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 10>come out, if your last season at UK is a

1149
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.920
<v Speaker 10>final four, those autographs tours and barnstorm tours, which they

1150
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 10>really don't do much anymore.

1151
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:25.960
<v Speaker 9>They're going to be successful.

1152
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 10>You come out of UK and your last year is

1153
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 10>a national champion and you've actually got two of those

1154
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 10>suckers and.

1155
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 9>One runner up. Yeah, they go incredibly well.

1156
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 10>And we had three thousand people two days after the

1157
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 10>National Championship Game ninety eight. We have three thousand Jeff Shepherd,

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01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 10>Allen Edwards and I with three seniors, and eventually Nause

1159
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 10>joined us because he was gonna go pro. We had

1160
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.960
<v Speaker 10>three thousand people at Fayette Mall get in line winning

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01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 10>our autograph.

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01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 1>You remember.

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01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 10>For autograph, Well, we didn't charge for autograph. Fayette Mall

1164
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:00.199
<v Speaker 10>in that case paid us per hour to be there,

1165
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 10>and it was still an obscene amount good and I

1166
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.480
<v Speaker 10>and that's the thing I don't, I don't. I don't

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01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:09.280
<v Speaker 10>feel comfortable saying it. I'll tell you off the area

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01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.119
<v Speaker 10>and I've told I've told other people before. It's not

1169
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 10>like it's a secret. But I'll just say it's like

1170
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 10>three thousand dollars an hour, all right for the three

1171
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 10>of us to sit there and sign our name, okay,

1172
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<v Speaker 10>And what made it amazing that day and granted it

1173
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 10>was the very first one we had, and it's tailed

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<v Speaker 10>off in the last twenty five years. Folks, Okay, I

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01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 10>I'm not charging that much anymore. And uh, but the

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01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 10>line they paid us for three hours, that was the deal.

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01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:35.079
<v Speaker 10>There were still at least seven hundred people in line

1178
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 10>of three hours, and so the manager of f MAAL

1179
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.639
<v Speaker 10>came to us in our ears we're signing and saying, hey,

1180
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 10>we don't want to disappoint anybody, would you guys stay

1181
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:45.000
<v Speaker 10>an extra.

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01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 9>Hour for half of what we're paid you per hour?

1183
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And we're like, well, heck, yeah, nice. I mean that

1184
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 1>everything else you made. Yeah, you had some some coins

1185
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 1>seed money, and you had a great idea because at

1186
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the time election didn't did not have a certain franchise,

1187
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so which you know, when you brought it up, I thought, yeah,

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01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why so you investigated what?

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<v Speaker 10>So I grew up appreciating, as sane rational people do, Yes,

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01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:19.679
<v Speaker 10>the gloriousness of the hot Krispy Kreme Exactly when the

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01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 10>hot light is not on, you don't go. When the

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01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:25.119
<v Speaker 10>hot light is on, you get two dozen and you

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01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 10>down them.

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01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 9>Immediately, all right, hot don't know that works out?

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01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.199
<v Speaker 10>So I decided because they the only one I'd ever

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01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 10>been to is in Tallahassee, Florida, where my mom's from. Gotcha,

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01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 10>And that was like a tradition we'd got done for Christmas.

1198
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 10>And on Saturday while we were there, Dad would go

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01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 10>to Krispy Kremen he come back with the cruelers. By

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01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.639
<v Speaker 10>the way, Krispy Kreme your greatest mistake ever getting rid

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01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:43.039
<v Speaker 10>of the ruler?

1202
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Did they really?

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01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 9>They did?

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01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 10>They still you still find them, but they don't make

1205
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.079
<v Speaker 10>them in their stores. Really, And let me tell you

1206
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 10>the greatest culinary experience of my life was happening to

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01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.360
<v Speaker 10>be in a Krispy Kreme because hotlight was on. Because

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01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:00.400
<v Speaker 10>that's the rule. You don't pass the Krispy krem hotline

1209
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:03.199
<v Speaker 10>is on, right, you don't pass it. That is literally

1210
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:07.320
<v Speaker 10>in the Bible that's a sin. So so I'm I'm

1211
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 10>I'm in there, and they're not it's the hot lights on,

1212
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 10>but they're not making their glaze.

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01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 9>They're making their crulers.

1214
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 9>And I'm like, and I I already love coolers, and

1216
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:21.599
<v Speaker 9>I'm thinking hot cruelers? Is is that possible? I mean, okay,

1217
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.880
<v Speaker 9>So I got a dozen gracing I've ever put in

1218
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 9>my mouth.

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01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 1>All I can think is the scene from The Simpsons

1220
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:32.679
<v Speaker 1>or Homer Hell strapped into a chair and they're shoving

1221
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:34.840
<v Speaker 1>donuts into his mouth with a machine and he just

1222
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 1>keeps going more, more more, and the devil says, James

1223
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Coco went mad in an hour.

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01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 10>I don't even know James Cocoa. It is an actor anyway.

1225
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.559
<v Speaker 10>So yeah, I said, why don't we have a Krispy Kreme?

1226
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 10>And like, right, and you were.

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01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Going to put the seed money? Well I was, I

1228
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't know Krispy Kremes.

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01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I don't think that's what they would let me

1230
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.800
<v Speaker 10>call it, but I was. I at least called, Yeah,

1231
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 10>got in touch Winston Sale in California, which sale in

1232
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 10>North Carolina, got on the phone with the vice president

1233
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 10>of franchise. I mean, come on, who is he? Especially now,

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01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.639
<v Speaker 10>especially now in my well, that's exactly how it turned out.

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<v Speaker 10>And I just said to I introduce myself. I said,

1236
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 10>I've run into some money.

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01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 1>That's wait a minute, when you introduced yourself, did you

1238
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>say national championship?

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01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.480
<v Speaker 10>Now, I might have said I'm a former Kentucky basketball

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<v Speaker 10>player to maybe kind of grease the.

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<v Speaker 9>Wheels a little bit.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Yeah, but I just said, I've run into some

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<v Speaker 10>money and i'd like to I'd like to inquire about

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01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 10>the possibility of a franchise, Chrispy Kreme franchise full store

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<v Speaker 10>right in Lexing, Kentucky. The rest of the conversation lasted

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<v Speaker 10>five seconds, and I'm not kidding. That's no exaggeration. He

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01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:57.039
<v Speaker 10>literally said, there's no market for one there click and

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01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.760
<v Speaker 10>hung up on me. Now again, all right, dream shattered,

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01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 10>you overcome right. Two years later, one freaking opened up

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01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.920
<v Speaker 10>over there on Frischman Road, and we're there every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 9>Alex loves them. Alex loves them.

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<v Speaker 10>We were there the other day and and they were

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<v Speaker 10>making hot ones.

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<v Speaker 9>But they weren't.

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01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 10>They weren't the glaze, they were the They were the

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<v Speaker 10>ones you stuff that you put cream in. He was devastating,

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<v Speaker 10>and I told him, I said, buddy, they're still hot.

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<v Speaker 1>My faves are the the jelly stuff. Oh those about

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<v Speaker 1>the least favorite raspberry or lemon? Oh my god, my.

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<v Speaker 10>Least favorite, to be honest, is when Krispy Kreme feels

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<v Speaker 10>like they have to do these special limited release donuts

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<v Speaker 10>come till we don't know, we don't need a Grinch donut.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't you talk about the hot donuts now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as we drift further and further our topics, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of our favorite stories we tell people about the UK

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<v Speaker 1>network is from football and we this was a year,

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of years. Here's some inside baseball

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<v Speaker 1>for you, a couple of years when the contract was

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<v Speaker 1>up and our company, the rights holder, was going to

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01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.439
<v Speaker 1>prepare a bid to try to win it back. So

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01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.520
<v Speaker 1>now they're trying to squeeze every dollar they can and

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01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>what might be the last year with the contract. And

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01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.399
<v Speaker 1>again this happened a couple of times. So instead of

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01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:22.119
<v Speaker 1>us flying with the team, we were asked to drive everywhere,

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01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 1>including hard you all to fly with the team? Yeah,

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01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 1>we we have to buy seats because the university has

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<v Speaker 1>to buy the seats.

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<v Speaker 10>Anyway, they're buying the seats or they buy the plane.

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<v Speaker 10>There are there are seats that go unused on these flights.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been on many of them.

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01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Not on football.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh I don't know about football anyhow.

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01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.439
<v Speaker 1>So we're we're all piles stuffed into this suv and

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<v Speaker 1>our late great statistician, Errol Thomas Brownie was driving, and

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<v Speaker 1>our producer, our great the great producer. Mike Dodson's in

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<v Speaker 1>the front seat.

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<v Speaker 10>Who just got a promotion, by the way, with state government.

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<v Speaker 10>Did you see that, Mike Dodson. No, no, no, I'm sorry,

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01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 10>not Mike. Jim Barnhart Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, anyhow, the other day, Jim's a our basket a

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<v Speaker 1>ball producer. Now anyway, So we pull out of the

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01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 1>stadium at Florida. It's it's early evening, after covering yet

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01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:12.960
<v Speaker 1>another butt kicking, you know, now they go down there

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01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.880
<v Speaker 1>with a chance to win. But back then, no, so

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01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.479
<v Speaker 1>we had just been you know, we're numb to just

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<v Speaker 1>another and it's a long drive home brother from Gainesville. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Harold inadvertently takes a wrong turn and goes left instead

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<v Speaker 1>of right, and we passed a Krispy Kream. Okay, we

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01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.680
<v Speaker 1>don't really think about it, but we we passed Krispy

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<v Speaker 1>Kreme and then immediately realize we're going in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So Harold does a yui or turn, pulls in, turns around,

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01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and in the interim the time it took the turnaround

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01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:52.319
<v Speaker 1>hot like hot donuts. Now, Mike Dodson lost his money,

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01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:57.640
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta stop, Harrold. Come, well, Harold's thing was

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01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:03.000
<v Speaker 1>he never stopped what he drove every mile of every trip.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved driving. Okay, he drove an RV to Little Rock,

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01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas one year, the entire way and getting Harold to

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01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.800
<v Speaker 1>stop unless, you know, unless you really had to go,

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01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. Well, so as soon as the rest of

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01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:20.000
<v Speaker 1>us realized what was going on, Yeah, there were three

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<v Speaker 1>of us in a vaccinate pounding on the seat like Harold, stop,

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01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta stop, man, Harold, and Mikey's in the front seat. Harold,

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01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:32.399
<v Speaker 1>come on. He finally relented and pulled him and man,

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01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we got sick. Krispy krem Nuts.

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<v Speaker 10>I told you story before we were in We had

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01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.840
<v Speaker 10>just beaten South Carolina and Columbia and this was one

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01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 10>of the Patino years. And we're driving back to the airport.

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<v Speaker 10>This is a nine o'clock ESPN game. So it is

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<v Speaker 10>now one am, and we are just now leaving Columbia

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<v Speaker 10>heading home.

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<v Speaker 9>And we're driving past and.

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01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:58.920
<v Speaker 10>We're on our way to the airport, and we're going

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01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 10>down this main thoroughfare in Colombia on our way to

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01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.800
<v Speaker 10>the airport, and we passed at Krispy Kreme and the

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<v Speaker 10>hot light is on and this is one am. Hotlight

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01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.319
<v Speaker 10>is on because they got to mixed stuff. We had won,

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01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:11.800
<v Speaker 10>which is key to the story, of course, because if

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01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 10>we hadn't won, no one would have said a word.

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<v Speaker 9>But we won.

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<v Speaker 10>So Anthony Epps screamed from the back row of the bus, Coach,

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<v Speaker 10>can we stop it?

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<v Speaker 9>Just like we were all on it.

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01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:25.439
<v Speaker 10>We were all ten years old on a vacation with

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01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.960
<v Speaker 10>our parents, and Coach said, yeah, let's stop. Wow, we

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<v Speaker 10>pulled this bus of ravenous college guys and a butt

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<v Speaker 10>load of other people pull into this Krispy Kreme. They

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01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 10>send the managers of course, because of course they did

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01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:51.520
<v Speaker 10>in and every player got twenty four ton And look,

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01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Speaker 10>this is a coach that is a I mean, all

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01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 10>he cares about is how much you weigh?

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01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:56.520
<v Speaker 9>What do you wait?

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01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 10>And Anthony and I and and which is It was

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01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.359
<v Speaker 10>silly for Anthony because Anthony's I mean, he's always he

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01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.439
<v Speaker 10>was always in shape. But remember, coach was like, okay,

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01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 10>but you got to be quicker, so you got to

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01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 10>lose weight. So there's always this balance for most of

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<v Speaker 10>the guys of Okay, I need you to have strength,

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01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.479
<v Speaker 10>but you have to be light enough to be quick

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01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 10>enough to beat your man. To get to the corner

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01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:20.479
<v Speaker 10>to cut off the angle, except for me who lived

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01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:22.880
<v Speaker 10>the opposite life of a Walter McCarty who had a

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01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Speaker 10>ten thousand calorie a day diet and mine was about

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<v Speaker 10>fifty calories a day. And so but anyway, so for

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<v Speaker 10>coach to say, hey, yeah, go get them donuts and

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01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 10>then they come back, I mean they got to make

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<v Speaker 10>four trips in and out of the store to get

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<v Speaker 10>all these donuts, and they hand every player two boxes

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<v Speaker 10>and not a single donut was left.

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<v Speaker 9>Tell me about that airport, they were all gone.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your way to pre diabet. Oh that was

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01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 1>from the Big Moving Sider earlier this week, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to know where that Krispy Kreme executive is today,

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01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.840
<v Speaker 1>probably retired with a golden parachute. Well, come back with Heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>fools and Flakes in just a minute on the Big

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<v Speaker 1>One Sider six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Boon Sider. Thanks again to my guests Ellis Starr,

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01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the uber capper of Equa Basse among other things, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Brian Milem from WKYT. Time now for heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>fools and flakes and our heroes of course on this day,

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<v Speaker 1>June sixth, the anniversary of D Day, not just the athletes,

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01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 1>but anybody who served and fought back then. And there

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<v Speaker 1>aren't there many left, I can tell you that. But

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and I touched on some of the athletes, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the pro athletes who played, probably the most served,

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<v Speaker 1>rather probably the most famous, as Brian mentioned, Bob Feller,

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<v Speaker 1>Yogi Bear. There were so many, but there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of names included that I wasn't aware of. Bobby Jones,

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01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the Great Golfer. He was forty years old and convinced

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<v Speaker 1>the commanding officer of his reserve group to let him fight.

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01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 9>He fought at.

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<v Speaker 1>Normandy on D Day, but never spoke about it again,

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01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.439
<v Speaker 1>presumably scarred by the experience, and evidently that was the

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01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 1>case for a lot of people who fought in any war,

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01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:08.560
<v Speaker 1>really Vietnam, Korea, but World War Two as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>lived next door to Sandy Bell, the former UK Compliance

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01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Director still work to the UK. Her dad served in

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two and in fact was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>driving forces behind the World War Two memorial in d C.

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<v Speaker 1>He was delivered to Washington, d C. Several years ago

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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 1>on an honors flight so he could be there when

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01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they unveiled the statue commemorating those who fought and died

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01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:39.520
<v Speaker 1>in World War Two. And he told me he is

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<v Speaker 1>a great neighbor. He told me one story about serving

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01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he served, and I think the Philippines told me one story.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it. And you can't blame these guys

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and women for not wanting to talk about what happened.

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01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:57.520
<v Speaker 1>More than one hundred and fifty thousand soldiers from the US,

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<v Speaker 1>Canada and the UK stormed the shores that day, led

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<v Speaker 1>by Dwight Eisenhower. Of course, Henry Fonda served, was a lieutenant,

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01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 1>was thirty seven years old. He enlisted in forty two,

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01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 1>said he didn't want to be a fake in the

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01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 1>war studio, and was one of the guys supporting D Day.

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01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Was a quartermaster on a destroyer at D Day, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course later was in the Longest Day, which focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the events of D Day. He had a starring role.

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<v Speaker 1>Also there was an Irish actor named Richard Todd who

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01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:35.279
<v Speaker 1>played a part of that movie. After serving, he was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the British airborne invasion and he parachuted out

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01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of a glider. He was in his group the first

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01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to touch the ground. His group jumped out of their

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01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.159
<v Speaker 1>planes to stop the Germans from crossing a bridge that

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01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 1>would have allowed them to attack. So Richard Todd also

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Longest Day, along with Henry Fonda. Two

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01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:02.239
<v Speaker 1>D Day vets in a movie of D Day. But

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<v Speaker 1>other names of famous people who served. J. D. Salinger,

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<v Speaker 1>the author wrote The Catcher in the Rye, one of

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01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the most famous novels in history of American literature, helped

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01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:17.640
<v Speaker 1>invade Utah Beach on D Day, and it has said

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<v Speaker 1>that his time in the war informed much of his writing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who else served? James Dowan. That's right, Scottie

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01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:29.560
<v Speaker 1>on Star Trek. He was a lieutenant in the Canadian Army.

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<v Speaker 1>His men were in charge of taking Juno Beach on

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01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:37.720
<v Speaker 1>D Day. He was hit by six bullets that day

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously survived it, and one of them cost him

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01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the middle finger on one of his hands, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. Obviously survive went onto an acting career and

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<v Speaker 1>became best known for Scotti. And by the way, when

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<v Speaker 1>they were making Star Trek, they had to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they never showed that hand with the missing finger. Medgar

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01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Evers activist ACP member part of a segregated unit of

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<v Speaker 1>Black soldiers in charge of delivering supplies during the Normandy invasion.

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01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Another actor, David Niven, served. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first officers to land at Normandy. He later awarded the

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<v Speaker 1>US Legion of Merit Medal. Sir Alec Guinness Obi Wan Kenobi,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the British Royal Navy during World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>helped land an aircraft that brought British troops to the

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01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:32.520
<v Speaker 1>beaches of Normandy. Finally, Charles Derning, an actor. He played

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<v Speaker 1>the father of the Jessica Land character in Tutsie, and

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01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:42.239
<v Speaker 1>he's been in a zillion movies, but he's I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's best known maybe for that one. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of others. He landed on Omaha Beach in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first waves. That was one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers in that first wave to survive. He was shot

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<v Speaker 1>several times, went on to become a winner of the

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<v Speaker 1>Purple Heart and the Silver Star. So obviously those are

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<v Speaker 1>the heroes we welcome and we remember today are full tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody at that station in Fort Waite, Indiana who had

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<v Speaker 1>anything to do with that news teas being dropped in

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<v Speaker 1>over top of the Pacers game. They got out just

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<v Speaker 1>in time our flake tonight will leave you with this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the call from Korean broadcasting of the final shot,

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<v Speaker 1>the final play of last night's Pacers thunder game. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys had a great time. That's it.

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<v Speaker 11>Good night from the garage in Lexington, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 12>Whose such such such.

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<v Speaker 8>Tau taking the showing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a.

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<v Speaker 9>Change?

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<v Speaker 8>Take that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the.

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<v Speaker 8>Back tack. I don't don't do
