Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider or Dick Gabriel
Speaker 1: with you on a Friday edition of our shows, we
Speaker 1: wrap up the week. Coming up, we're gonna preview the
Speaker 1: Belmont with Alis Starr, the uber Kapper. We'll try to
Speaker 1: make a little money. He try to help you make
Speaker 1: a little money as well. On the third Jewel of
Speaker 1: Racing's Triple Crown. No triple Crown winner this year, as
Speaker 1: you know, but top three finishers from the Kentucky Derby
Speaker 1: will lock up again. Plus it also matches the winner
Speaker 1: of the Derby against the winner of the Preakness, So
Speaker 1: it's going to be fun. I loved racing anyway, but
Speaker 1: it's always more fun when there's a triple Crown on
Speaker 1: the line. But Elis will help us with that. And
Speaker 1: then we'll talk to mister Baseball, Brian Milam, sports director
Speaker 1: from WKYT. We will talk football and basketball, but Brian,
Speaker 1: we'll slip in a little bit of baseball as well.
Speaker 1: It is June sixth, It is the anniversary of D Day,
Speaker 1: and boy, last year on the anniversary of D Day,
Speaker 1: there were so many documentaries I found myself immersed in
Speaker 1: so many specials and docs on world War two. It
Speaker 1: was incredible. I'm not sure why. I mean, I'm of
Speaker 1: a certain age where I've been around for a while
Speaker 1: and I've read about World War Two. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of movies and documentaries, but for some reason last
Speaker 1: year it just seemed like I got into it so
Speaker 1: much more. And you know, watch documentary series and things
Speaker 1: like that. But the date rolls around again, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a topic of conversation. What's being taught in
Speaker 1: school these days? You know, And we can debate that
Speaker 1: all night long, but you know, it's it's just something
Speaker 1: that needs to be discussed. Pearl Harbor needs to be
Speaker 1: discussed more than other things. But D Day basically saved
Speaker 1: the free world. And my kids are long out of school,
Speaker 1: so I have no idea what's being taught now. But
Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity now with so many quality products
Speaker 1: out there in terms of documentaries that I really believe
Speaker 1: school should be using those as much as written material
Speaker 1: books or online information about topics like D Day. I
Speaker 1: remember watching Ken Burns documentary on the Vietnam War. It
Speaker 1: was sensational and just about everything he does really is.
Speaker 1: But you know, I lived through when I was a
Speaker 1: teenager much younger as well. The Vietnam War and my
Speaker 1: draft class. I was eligible for the draft, but my
Speaker 1: status was one H, which meant one holding because they
Speaker 1: still had the draft back then, but they had stopped
Speaker 1: it for a while, so had they started it back up,
Speaker 1: I would have been reassigned a number. They would have
Speaker 1: had that lottery thing where your birthday comes up and
Speaker 1: that's the sides who goes in when. But my draft
Speaker 1: status I had a draft card was one H. But
Speaker 1: you know, what I knew about the Vietnam War was
Speaker 1: what I heard and read on TV, radio, newspapers, things
Speaker 1: like that. But it was, you know, nippets here and there.
Speaker 1: I didn't do any deep dive until I read some
Speaker 1: things about the Vietnam War. But when I watched Ken
Speaker 1: Burns's documentary, it all came back to me, all the
Speaker 1: names of the places, the battles, the people, and it
Speaker 1: kind of condensed it and this huge chunk of information,
Speaker 1: And now I have more understanding all these years later
Speaker 1: of the Vietnam War compared to what I have back
Speaker 1: in the day. I think that's what they needed to
Speaker 1: use to teach kids today about events like June sixth,
Speaker 1: nineteen forty four. I will tell you this though on
Speaker 1: the lighter side, it is National Donut Day. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: This goes back to World War One. Actually, it began
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty eight as a day to honor and
Speaker 1: recognize Red Cross volunteers who distributed donuts to soldiers in
Speaker 1: World War One, and so they began to recognize National
Speaker 1: Donuts Day in nineteen thirty eight. I did not know that.
Speaker 1: I know there was a National Donut Day. I couldn't
Speaker 1: have told you to date. I didn't know there are
Speaker 1: other donut holidays. National Jelly Filled Donut Day is June eighth.
Speaker 1: That's Sunday. Sometimes it says June ninth, but usually June eighth.
Speaker 1: That's me. I'm a jelly filled donut kind of guy.
Speaker 1: And if you listen to the show earlier this week
Speaker 1: with Cameron Mills, we talked about donuts at length because Cameron,
Speaker 1: when he got out of school, had some barnstorming money
Speaker 1: in his pocket. He thought, Hey, we don't have a
Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme donut shop here in Lexington, and so he
Speaker 1: tried to alleviate that situation. We're going to share more
Speaker 1: about that with you if you missed it later in
Speaker 1: the show. National Cream Filled Donut Day is celebrated on
Speaker 1: September fourteenth. That's a day before my birthday. I am
Speaker 1: not a cream filled donut guy. No thanks. National Boston
Speaker 1: Cream Pie Day is October twenty third. You can get
Speaker 1: a Boston cream pied donut. There are free donuts out
Speaker 1: there for the taking. Go to Dunkin Donuts and I
Speaker 1: guess it's still on this evening. If you buy a drink,
Speaker 1: you get a free donut. Go to Krispy Kreme you
Speaker 1: can get a free donut, and you can get a
Speaker 1: dozen of the originals the original glaze for two dollars
Speaker 1: if you buy one dozen at the usual price. So
Speaker 1: she'll end up with two dozen donuts, which is far
Speaker 1: better than one dozen. So Happy National Donut Day to you.
Speaker 1: And a tip of the BBI cap to veterans everywhere,
Speaker 1: especially the remaining few served in World War Two, and
Speaker 1: a nod to everybody, including Yankees. Legendary catcher Yogi Bera,
Speaker 1: who served and fought on at Normandy. He was a
Speaker 1: machine gunner and he was in a small watercraft that
Speaker 1: fired machine guns and rockets at the German encampments trying
Speaker 1: to protect the soldiers on the beaches. And there are
Speaker 1: all kinds of stories out there about athletes who served
Speaker 1: not just in World War Two but on d Day
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs last night. If he didn't see it, pull
Speaker 1: it up, even if you're not an NBA fan, bad
Speaker 1: news for former Wildcat Shay Gildess Alexander He and his
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Thunder teammates blew it. They led for the entire game,
Speaker 1: right up until there were point three seconds left. That's
Speaker 1: when Tyrese Halliburton, with former Wildcat Cason Wallace in his face,
Speaker 1: pulled up and hit a twenty one foot jumper and
Speaker 1: rattled home, erasing a fifteen point Thunder lead and giving
Speaker 1: the Pacers a one to eleven one ten in in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. Yeah, that Thunder got got off a lob
Speaker 1: play out of bounce, but the Pacers knocked it away
Speaker 1: with point three seconds left. And we were talking earlier
Speaker 1: this week about the fact that Mark Pope likes the
Speaker 1: rule where if you call time out in the closing seconds,
Speaker 1: you get the ball in mid court, And had the
Speaker 1: Thunder completed a play, it would have made his point
Speaker 1: that you had the opportunity with the situation like that
Speaker 1: for an incredible play at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Point three seconds left and you gotta go to the
Speaker 1: link of the court. You got virtually no shot. But
Speaker 1: because of course it was the final moments, okay, see
Speaker 1: calls time out, they get the ball in mid court.
Speaker 1: The only recourse they had was to lob the ball
Speaker 1: at the basket. Everybody knew that you can't get a
Speaker 1: shot off in point three, but Pacers knocked it away.
Speaker 1: Game over. But when we discussed this earlier in the week,
Speaker 1: I also shared a SoundBite from Sporting News is Mike
Speaker 1: de Corsi about how much he hates that rule and
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about it. I see Pope's point, he
Speaker 1: would like to see it in the college game. I
Speaker 1: kind of sided with Mike de Courci on it. And
Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking about last night watching the
Speaker 1: Thunder try to lob one in. But now OKAC and
Speaker 1: the championship rounds down one nothing after losing at home,
Speaker 1: and the Pacers just keep coming back. They're that kind
Speaker 1: of team. But they just ground and ground away. Jelgas
Speaker 1: Alexander had thirty eight points in forty minutes with five
Speaker 1: rebounds and three assists. Casein Wallace scored only six points
Speaker 1: couple of rebounds. He did play thirty three minutes, but
Speaker 1: he plays primarily, at least in this series, for defense,
Speaker 1: and he was there. But Haliburton doing what Aliburton does.
Speaker 1: And now OKC is down one game to nothing. If
Speaker 1: you didn't watch, I get it. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: NBA fans around here, but here's what it sounded like.
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. First of all, here's the way
Speaker 1: Mike Breen called it on DESPN on ABC. Breen is
Speaker 1: renowned as one of the all time greats. But to me,
Speaker 1: I just don't think a TV guy needs to call
Speaker 1: each and every move of every play like a radio
Speaker 1: guy does. That's what he does in this in insistence
Speaker 1: it works. It was one ten to one on nine
Speaker 1: when the Thunder had the ball. They came down and
Speaker 1: worked for a shot from Gildess Alexander and he got
Speaker 1: off a decent shot, but he missed it. So here
Speaker 1: comes Indiana.
Speaker 2: Paci's a little chance to win it. Final seconds to
Speaker 2: fouls to do him. Haliverton looking, Caliverton driving.
Speaker 3: Pulls Hauk jump shots that's gone.
Speaker 2: Put three tons of a second ramatic time out. Okay,
Speaker 2: see Tyrens. Halliburton does it again.
Speaker 1: There the first lead look the game. So that was
Speaker 1: how Mike Breen called it on ABC. Now here is
Speaker 1: what it sounded like on the Pacers Radio network with
Speaker 1: playboo play man Mike Boyle jil Justess.
Speaker 3: Alexander has it nine to shoot. The defender is Nemar.
Speaker 3: Here comes the left hand bounce, penetrates the arc. Nemark
Speaker 3: cuts him off and he missed off the back of
Speaker 3: the rim. Rebound Indiana eight seconds to go. The Pacers
Speaker 3: are not gonna call a time out. Paddleburton has it
Speaker 3: with three driving with two pulling.
Speaker 1: Up head heading with three tenths of a second to go?
Speaker 3: How many more times can this team do that?
Speaker 2: Soweet's baby?
Speaker 1: And that was Pacers Radio. How about ESPN radio with
Speaker 1: a veteran Mark Kesterscher. He's got to play it down
Speaker 1: the middle, but pretty excited.
Speaker 2: It is rebounded by Indiana eight seconds on the clock.
Speaker 2: They're down one. They have timeouts, but they're gonna play it.
Speaker 2: Here's Halliburton driving thing shut up God.
Speaker 1: With three tenths of a second ago.
Speaker 4: Halliburton does it again.
Speaker 2: How does he do it? Ty Reese Halliburton with another
Speaker 2: shot to bring Indiana from way back. They've got the
Speaker 2: lead here in Game one.
Speaker 1: To me, one of the more interesting things was that
Speaker 1: all three broadcasters took note of the fact that the
Speaker 1: Pacers were not calling time out. I think everybody would
Speaker 1: be thinking that one way or the other, but U
Speaker 1: and this goes against the grain for a lot of
Speaker 1: basketball and got to call time out. No, especially not
Speaker 1: in the NBA. But these guys are known for being
Speaker 1: able to create shots. So I hate the Pacers from
Speaker 1: my days. I don't hate him, but I hated him
Speaker 1: when I was an ABA fan, a Colonels fan. I
Speaker 1: think it would be cool if an Aba team won
Speaker 1: another NBA championship. Certainly the Spurs did it, but I've
Speaker 1: been rooting for OKC because of Gilgris Alexander and now
Speaker 1: they're down a game. And by the way, one of
Speaker 1: the big story, well one of the sidebars that came
Speaker 1: out of last night's game, and I can I can
Speaker 1: laugh about this now because well, it didn't happen to me.
Speaker 1: A station in Fort Wayne, Indiana, which is the second
Speaker 1: biggest market in the state of Indiana's second biggest TV
Speaker 1: market in the final seconds, they cut into the NBA
Speaker 1: coverage accidentally and dropped in a news tease.
Speaker 2: A thunder clinging to this three point leads SGA the
Speaker 2: drive inside shut flock so you'll come drives it back.
Speaker 4: Next on twenty one Alive News, the man who was
Speaker 4: brutally beaten at Pike's Pub last week has comeing forward
Speaker 4: here what he wants to have happened now. Also tonight,
Speaker 4: a big night for Pacer fans as Indiana is in
Speaker 4: the NBA Finals, will show you a local business who
Speaker 4: has seen a boost from the Yes Sirs, I mean
Speaker 4: because see a little fog overnight's night will have the
Speaker 4: very latest forecast coming up to get a thanks for
Speaker 4: staying up with us, I'm am ra Boss Fort Wayne's
Speaker 4: most watched news start.
Speaker 1: That's Ga Garner Buy me Mars. That's from WPTA and
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne. I checked their website. I record the show
Speaker 1: earlier in the day, and I checked the website in
Speaker 1: the morning. There was no apology, There was no mention
Speaker 1: of the t's but there was not even a mention
Speaker 1: of the Pacers win. So somebody at that station needs
Speaker 1: to be severely admonished discipline. Whatever I mean, I worked
Speaker 1: in local TV news for thirty five years, and so
Speaker 1: much of it in the latter stages was about the
Speaker 1: Internet and updating the station's website. And here's a station
Speaker 1: website right there in the heart of Indiana Pacers Country,
Speaker 1: if you will, no mention of the game. What a
Speaker 1: mistake on two fronts, but especially and that had to
Speaker 1: be an automated deal, like it was programmed. The computer
Speaker 1: was programmed to run the news ts at a certain point.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that whoever was working at that station
Speaker 1: in the area where they make these moves is called
Speaker 1: Matt Control. Nobody at Master Control is going to have
Speaker 1: that game up and be watching and think, huh, this
Speaker 1: would be a good time to drop in a news
Speaker 1: teas now, it had to be automated computer whatever. But
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it could have been avoided.
Speaker 1: It had to have been avoided. But what a mistake
Speaker 1: on more than one account. We'll come back with more
Speaker 1: of the Big Blue Insider a little bit later on
Speaker 1: Brian Mylem with WKYT on six thirty WLAP Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Big bluon Sider coming up in just a
Speaker 1: few minutes WKYTS. Brian Mileman. A little bit later on,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Ellis Star the uber Kapper and we'll
Speaker 1: find out who he likes in tomorrow's Belmont Stakes. And
Speaker 1: while we're talking about local media people, I know two
Speaker 1: guys who I think are probably happy right now because
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers Finally, you know this by now, I've
Speaker 1: signed Aaron Rodgers, Will Keith Farmer of l e X
Speaker 1: and BBN Tonight big Steelers fans. So is Jeff Drummond
Speaker 1: of Cats Illustrated. Jay Drumm is I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people from his generation became a Steelers fan when
Speaker 1: the Steelers were excelling back in the seventies under Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: When you're a kid and you decide what team you're
Speaker 1: going to follow and root for. With me, it was
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals back in the late sixties and
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers in the early sixties. But came
Speaker 1: in and Jay Drumm both Steelers fans and their prospects
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Quite frankly, they weren't that great. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they're that great now. With forty two year
Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers coming off his worst season in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But again, he was playing the last two years for
Speaker 1: the New York Jets and they stunk. I don't care
Speaker 1: who would have been playing quarterback. They would not have
Speaker 1: had good years. So the Steelers I think, have more
Speaker 1: going for him. So now Rogers at least has a
Speaker 1: chance if this is his last year, to go out
Speaker 1: with some dignity. But again, forty two years old, and
Speaker 1: he has kept himself in pretty good shape. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that I would expect that much. A couple
Speaker 1: of different outlets are reporting on of course, right now,
Speaker 1: Football recruiting Kentucky with two commits for twenty six, and
Speaker 1: right now they're looking at a safety out of Rockford,
Speaker 1: Illinois named Messiah It's right, feel in your joke here,
Speaker 1: Messiah Tilson. He's six y two, one sixty five man.
Speaker 1: He's got to spend some time in the weight room,
Speaker 1: but he is a much coveted player, and he's got
Speaker 1: Kentucky on his list. In fact, made an official visit
Speaker 1: this week, and less than a month ago, Kentucky was
Speaker 1: not in his top six. He's looked at Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Clearly a big ten kind of kid. Rutgers Kansas, but
Speaker 1: now Kentucky if he's interested in playing in the Southeastern Conference,
Speaker 1: and according to Let's see seven, Frank Boffano offered a scholarship.
Speaker 1: He's a d Backs coach back in December, so they're
Speaker 1: on this kid. He is a highly regarded, highly sought
Speaker 1: after safety. Right now, Kentucky with just two commits in
Speaker 1: the class of twenty six, including a wide receiver from
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Texas, which I found interesting. Davis McCrae says
Speaker 1: he will play for the Wildcats and we'll come all
Speaker 1: the way here from San Antonio. Speaking of Texas, there
Speaker 1: is a great story unfolding in women's salt. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're following, but of course Texas Tech signed
Speaker 1: Nijay Kennedy, who was probably the best pitcher in America
Speaker 1: pitching for Stanford. Texas Tech's nil benefactors. I think it's
Speaker 1: just one person paid her a million dollars to come
Speaker 1: pitch for Texas Tech and she has pitched the Red
Speaker 1: Raiders into the championship game against Texas. It's the best
Speaker 1: of three series. They split the first two. Now that
Speaker 1: Tech won last night. They lost the first game because
Speaker 1: Texas got to walk off single when Kennedy was trying
Speaker 1: to walk a batter and ball four got a little
Speaker 1: too close and the Texas hitter knocked it into the
Speaker 1: outfield for a game winning RBI single. Well, Kennedy last
Speaker 1: night struck out a hit her on three pitches with
Speaker 1: the time run of third base. So Texas Tech evens
Speaker 1: the series and now they'll play for the championship tonight.
Speaker 1: But the cool story is Jerry Glasgow was the head
Speaker 1: coach at Louisiana signed on to coach at Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Louisiana's got a good program, and in fact, in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: when Kentucky was at Oklahoma City in the World Series
Speaker 1: and I got to go do the games on radio,
Speaker 1: Louisiana was in the same old tell as Kentucky. But
Speaker 1: they hired Texas Tech hired away their coach, Jerry Glasgow.
Speaker 1: Now he had a really good pitcher at Louisiana. Some
Speaker 1: of his players followed him to Texas Tech, including well
Speaker 1: his best pitcher wanted to follow him. Oneman by the
Speaker 1: name of Sam Landry, but he told her, no, you
Speaker 1: are going to either stay put or go elsewhere, because
Speaker 1: he said, it looks like we're going to sign this
Speaker 1: kid from Stanford, and you won't be the everyday starter.
Speaker 1: And the coach told the player, you know, I value
Speaker 1: our friendship. I think that would change the dynamics of
Speaker 1: our friendship if you're not pitching every day. So why
Speaker 1: don't you go to Oklahoma and play for the guy
Speaker 1: or woman I don't know who it is. Glasgow said
Speaker 1: was the best pitching coach in America. And she did.
Speaker 1: She transferred did Sam Landry to Oklahoma, and sure enough
Speaker 1: they had a great year, Oklahoma's four time defending champ
Speaker 1: And they played Texas Tech in the semifinal round and
Speaker 1: Tech beat Oklahoma beat the pitcher that Glasgow had coached
Speaker 1: at Louisiana. I mean, he was beside himself in the
Speaker 1: dugout because she lost. He was beside himself because Tech
Speaker 1: had won. But I thought that was a heck of
Speaker 1: a story. And now the million dollar pitcher will face
Speaker 1: Texas tonight for the championship. And she has thrown four
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five pitches in the College World Series.
Speaker 1: She has pitched every pitch of every inning of every
Speaker 1: game in the World Series for Texas Tech. This hasn't
Speaker 1: happened since twenty twelve, when Alabama's Jackie Trena threw every
Speaker 1: pitch at the WCWS for the Crimson Tide, which won
Speaker 1: the title thirteen years ago. Her coach Glasgow said she'd
Speaker 1: get to start Friday on one condition, quote if she's breathing,
Speaker 1: and if you want to check it out, it's on ESPN.
Speaker 1: You can see it through the app and through ESPN
Speaker 1: Plus and all that stuff. But just check it out
Speaker 1: on ESPN Texas Texas Tech for the Softball Championship and
Speaker 1: IL dollars at work. Up next, Brian Mylem of WKYT
Speaker 1: here on six point thirty w LAP welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Big Blue Insider and joining us down our celebrity
Speaker 1: hotline as the sports director WKYT. Mister Brian Mylem, Happy
Speaker 1: Donut Day. First of all, to you, sir, national donut
Speaker 1: than favorite.
Speaker 5: The answer is yes, just yes. You know, if that's
Speaker 5: one of my when I go and fill up gas takes,
Speaker 5: you know, the station vehicles, and if I go in
Speaker 5: and if I see one, it's kind of hard to say, colleague,
Speaker 5: you don't need it, but you need it one of
Speaker 5: those things, you know.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. So that's the seafood diet. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: it more importantly though what I mentioned earlier. It is
Speaker 1: the universary of day June sixth, nineteen forty four, eighty
Speaker 1: one years ago. And you again, you're mister baseball, and
Speaker 1: I know that you're familiar with a lot of the
Speaker 1: stories about baseball players who dropped the ball, dropped the
Speaker 1: bad dropped the glove, and enlisted and served. I mentioned
Speaker 1: Yogi Bear. There are many, many others, but you know,
Speaker 1: Yogi Bear was there. Normandy Beach is a machine gunner.
Speaker 1: But those stories always tug in my heart strings. Ted
Speaker 1: Williams was a fighter pilot in two Wars. I just
Speaker 1: think those stories are incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's not just it's incredible that anyone would
Speaker 5: enlist for any national emergency or any situation like that.
Speaker 5: But when a professional athlete, and when you look at
Speaker 5: the names of people who enlisted for World War Two,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a Hall of fame list. It's not
Speaker 5: just you know your common base fall card number five
Speaker 5: fifteen from the nineteen fifty seven or nineteen forty four
Speaker 5: Bowman set or something, you know exactly you got You've
Speaker 5: got Yogi as a catcher. You've got Ted Williams as
Speaker 5: your left fielder. You've got Bob Feller as a starting pitcher.
Speaker 5: You've got Joe DiMaggio in center field. I mean, you
Speaker 5: go on and on and on, and I think of
Speaker 5: moe Berg. Yes, and the most people were like, who's
Speaker 5: mo Burg? He may have been the guy that won
Speaker 5: World War Two and he was a pedestrian catcher. He
Speaker 5: spoke seven languages, and on his trips to teach Japan
Speaker 5: the game of baseball, he also took pictures of the
Speaker 5: city and then the process gave that to the military
Speaker 5: and they had bombing targets because of what mo Burg
Speaker 5: gave them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a great book. And then a movie called
Speaker 1: The Catcher was a spy. I think Paul Rush Yeah,
Speaker 1: played mo Burg and it was important to Paul Road
Speaker 1: because Paul ruds Jewish show is moe Berg. And now
Speaker 1: that isn't one of your rights. I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up. That's one of the greatest stories period, much
Speaker 1: less about a baseball player in World War Two.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and that and that and those you know,
Speaker 5: just some of those names are the ones that whether
Speaker 5: they were enlisting in the Marines or in the Navy,
Speaker 5: or wherever. You would not see that today. Uh you
Speaker 5: know Pat Tilm. Pat Tillman is one of the exceptions
Speaker 5: to that rule, and unfortunately he was killed by friendly fire.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was a different era when there was
Speaker 5: a pride about the country that hey, it's all hands
Speaker 5: on deck, no matter how little money you make, how
Speaker 5: much money you make, your star power, your lack thereof. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was an important day, uh D Day, but certainly
Speaker 5: just World War two. I mean, they don't call it
Speaker 5: the Greatest Generation for nothing.
Speaker 1: That's exactly.
Speaker 5: And and I think there's a lot of people that
Speaker 5: just in the course of time, things get forgotten. But
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the great things about history.
Speaker 5: It can't remind you. Hey, if it happened once, who knows,
Speaker 5: it could happen again on a different level. But everybody
Speaker 5: needs to rally to the cause.
Speaker 1: All kinds of clips on social media Twitter, Facebook about it,
Speaker 1: so that helps. That keeps people informed. While we're talking
Speaker 1: with Brian Milem of w k Y, we have joked
Speaker 1: in the past about how phones ring off the hook
Speaker 1: at times, and I know you were working last night,
Speaker 1: you didn't see it, but it's out there on Twitter
Speaker 1: and other spots where the local affiliate in Fort Wayne,
Speaker 1: I played the clip earlier cut away the ABC affiliate
Speaker 1: cut away from the Pacers Thunder game in the closing
Speaker 1: seconds for a newskes got back just in time. And
Speaker 1: I guarantee you this was a computer generated glitch, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure it could have been avoided. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: ocause I can't imagine anybody at Master Control ticket that's
Speaker 1: a good time for a news teez.
Speaker 5: You know, well what I know things happened that way.
Speaker 1: Well, I know at our place, our Master Control offs
Speaker 1: when I was there and when you're there, were such
Speaker 1: huge fans they would forget to do their job because
Speaker 1: they're watching a game that we might be televising or
Speaker 1: CBS might have. But you can certainly sympathize, I'm sure
Speaker 1: with whoever's answering the phones today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're You're right. And you know, we live in
Speaker 5: a world, in a media world where a lot of
Speaker 5: people at the local level will tell you and even
Speaker 5: at the coltural level will tell you sports all it's
Speaker 5: not that important you get rid of a sporting event.
Speaker 6: And I promise you.
Speaker 5: Will feel the wrath of a fan base, a city,
Speaker 5: a county, a state, a region, whatever it may be.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me sports is not important, because it is.
Speaker 5: You can see that from the little league level, high school, college,
Speaker 5: pro whatever. You just you just don't do it. And
Speaker 5: you do hope it was a computer error because if
Speaker 5: there was somebody in a newsroom somewhere and said, hey,
Speaker 5: I think this would be a great time, said no, person, ever,
Speaker 5: let's do that, you know, And yeah, thankfully they bailed
Speaker 5: out in time to see the shot. But had they not,
Speaker 5: it would have been like the height would be like
Speaker 5: the Heidi Game all over again.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and kids look it up, the Heidi Game. It's
Speaker 1: a great story. But we don't have the.
Speaker 5: Total little bird about that about that, that's right.
Speaker 1: Uh. And in all fairness, I will admit that back
Speaker 1: in the late eighties w k YT we were showing
Speaker 1: the US Open from CBS and it was one of
Speaker 1: those great Martina nevertil over think. It was Martina versus
Speaker 1: Stephie matches and it went into the last set and
Speaker 1: our late great deer dearly depart and loved the man.
Speaker 1: Ralph Gabbard did not like tennis golf, would never have
Speaker 1: ordered us to dump out of a golf match. But
Speaker 1: he ordered us to dump out of tennis so we
Speaker 1: could get the six o'clock news on Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the phone calls and there was one person mid level
Speaker 1: management in the building at the time. She fielded to
Speaker 1: call and had to tell the people in master mister
Speaker 1: Gabbert wants you to dump out, and so she fielded
Speaker 1: all the I felt so bad for her, but everybody
Speaker 1: makes mistakes. That was our Heidi game. We're talking Brian
Speaker 1: Mylm with WKYT. We'll come back and talk more with
Speaker 1: Brian in just a minute here on six point thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1: Welcome back Brian Mylem as my guest. He is the
Speaker 1: sports director of WKWYT, also a crowd Morehead State Eagle
Speaker 1: and a guy who played shortstop. D you want college baseball?
Speaker 1: That said, this is prime portal period out of alliteration
Speaker 1: for anxious angers. And I'm wondering your thoughts on where
Speaker 1: college baseball is now, given the fact that the house
Speaker 1: settlement's coming up. Eleven point seven scholies going away. You
Speaker 1: and I have talked about that. You guys didn't even
Speaker 1: have eleven point seven.
Speaker 5: I don't think and more well, yeah, well we did,
Speaker 5: and it just so happens. I'm standing next to our
Speaker 5: catcher back then, Brad Allison. We were both a part
Speaker 5: of that eleven point seven scholarship limit. And when that
Speaker 5: goes away, and what are the number like thirty four
Speaker 5: scholarships baseball is going to get. And that also means,
Speaker 5: you know, the school is going to have to pulley
Speaker 5: up a little bit here because that's money they would
Speaker 5: not be getting in the past. Right, And I think
Speaker 5: about the Morehead states of the world. EKU, some schools
Speaker 5: that are a lower level tier of Yeah, there'd be one,
Speaker 5: but they're not Texas, they're not Florida, cal You know
Speaker 5: teams in California that can afford in many ways to
Speaker 5: swallow some of that money. Morehead State cannot, Murray State cannot.
Speaker 5: And now you're going to be giving excuse me, free
Speaker 5: scholars the money to a lot more kids for football, basketball,
Speaker 5: and no more Head is a non scholarship football program.
Speaker 5: But you're really going it's really gonna hurt the school.
Speaker 5: It'll help the kids, But then you wonder what the
Speaker 5: trickle down effect is going to be, And you know,
Speaker 5: the portal is just I like the fact that we
Speaker 5: all have opportunities to change and go somewhere that Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't fit it. Bears all go there, but not
Speaker 5: every year, not every year. I mean, you know, golly,
Speaker 5: you don't change coaches every year because you lost one game.
Speaker 5: You don't fire this person, fire that person. You don't
Speaker 5: change your wife every year, your husband every year. You
Speaker 5: don't do that. You've got to fight through a little something.
Speaker 5: And I like, what, oh though, the big kid from
Speaker 5: Kansas the Center, he said, you know, hey, it's going
Speaker 5: to be like a two year deal. You sign, you're
Speaker 5: here for two years at least, and you get one transfer.
Speaker 5: But there's no sense and being a guy that transfers
Speaker 5: to five schools in six years or four schools in
Speaker 5: five years. And talk to you.
Speaker 1: You and I have passed about the fact that you
Speaker 1: played for your dad in high school and he was
Speaker 1: tough on you help make you a good player. You
Speaker 1: ended up playing D one baseball and that helped you
Speaker 1: at the college level when you look back on it.
Speaker 1: Though I'm not entirely forgive me familiar with your entire
Speaker 1: career of Morehead State. I know you had some success individually,
Speaker 1: but had the portal been there, would you at some point?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would have thought about it, but how
Speaker 1: tempting would it have been for you, as a D
Speaker 1: one baseball player to step in and maybe improve your
Speaker 1: lot in life.
Speaker 5: The first six months, the first six months of a
Speaker 5: freshman's career at any sport, at any school, is the
Speaker 5: most challenging because you're away from home, more than likely,
Speaker 5: you're around tougher competition for the first time, more than
Speaker 5: like you. It is gut check time. And I remember
Speaker 5: two and a half, three months into my freshman year
Speaker 5: at Moorhead, I told being a young, dumb eighteen year
Speaker 5: old kid, I said, yeah, I just don't know. I'm
Speaker 5: thinking about leaving. And a guy named Donnie Hackworth, who
Speaker 5: was from Paintsville, pulled me to the side and he said,
Speaker 5: do you understand the opportunity you have right now? He said,
Speaker 5: you're going to start and you're going to play all
Speaker 5: the time, but you've got to suck it up and
Speaker 5: be mentally tough here. And that was a come to
Speaker 5: Jesus meeting. And another guy named Mike Perguson gave me
Speaker 5: one of those one day also. He said, you don't
Speaker 5: see what everybody else sees. And I didn't. I was
Speaker 5: away from home. I was scared a little bit. I
Speaker 5: didn't know what to do, but I stuck it out,
Speaker 5: and yeah, I was blessed to have a nice career.
Speaker 5: But I think kids get so enamored by the massage
Speaker 5: of social media, by the massage of oh, you can
Speaker 5: be over here, you will do this for us, and
Speaker 5: we're going to give you more money. And well, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're gonna get more money, but Uncle Sam's going to
Speaker 5: take forty percent of.
Speaker 6: That pretty far fast.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if those kids understand that. Some do,
Speaker 5: some do. I think I think people with a good
Speaker 5: financial understanding of how things work, like Jasper Johnson, Dennis Johnson,
Speaker 5: that Johnson family and Alvis taught them, well, hey, this
Speaker 5: is what's gonna happen here with this money. You're ya,
Speaker 5: you're gonna get a million bucks to come to school.
Speaker 5: Well it's not really a million, because let's strike down
Speaker 5: all the taxes that are involved in YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5: But kids, uh, I guess it's I guess now that
Speaker 5: I'm fifty one years old, I'm officially in that age
Speaker 5: bracket of well, when I was younger, Bill in the blank, true,
Speaker 5: I gotta.
Speaker 1: Think Dennis Johnson might have been able to show his
Speaker 1: son one of his old NFL pay stubs. You know,
Speaker 1: here's what but here's what I took home, Uh, exactly sobering.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Brian Milem of w KYT sports director
Speaker 1: in his covered sports in the state of Kentucky between
Speaker 1: a state at KYT and WYMT and Hazard for a
Speaker 1: long time. Well, speaking of the portal, the basketball team
Speaker 1: you cover Mark Pope's ball club. He's put together a
Speaker 1: nice roster. Mark Stoops roster is a bit of a
Speaker 1: mystery right now. We'll find out it's it's going to
Speaker 1: be on top of us soon enough. As you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be keeping an eye on the offensive
Speaker 1: line as everybody else will. But it does, I mean,
Speaker 1: for both both teams. It really changes the way you
Speaker 1: cover these programs, doesn't it. With the way these kids
Speaker 1: now are coming and going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like when we were kids,
Speaker 5: you look at the back of a baseball card and
Speaker 5: for the majority of the players you saw one or
Speaker 5: two team.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: And now if you had a basketball card for some
Speaker 5: of these kids, if they stayed five years, wow, different schools,
Speaker 5: different school, different school, different school and the portal is
Speaker 5: the game changer of all game change maybe in the
Speaker 5: history of collegiate sports. I don't know, nil slash portal.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, I try as I get older
Speaker 5: to not get overly excited and anticipate things that could happen.
Speaker 5: But what Mark Pope has done with this ball club,
Speaker 5: it's kind of hard not to look ahead and say,
Speaker 5: if they stay healthy and they get the right breaks, folks,
Speaker 5: you could be looking at that third that third fourth
Speaker 5: week in March and that early first week in April.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not it's not out of the realm
Speaker 5: of possibility. Golly, it's a stacked lineup and now he's
Speaker 5: got to find a way to massage the egos or
Speaker 5: one basketball one a deep bench, whatever. But you know,
Speaker 5: like but for the portal. You know, James McCoy is
Speaker 5: baseball player. He wants to play every day, and that's
Speaker 5: one of the main reasons he's leaving or testing the portals.
Speaker 5: The guys want to play every day, and that's fine,
Speaker 5: and I get it. I would want the same thing
Speaker 5: if I were still uh you know, know, athletically and climb.
Speaker 5: But and but, GOLLI you know, the portal is that
Speaker 5: they've got to come up with something to stop the
Speaker 5: swell of influx. I remember when Tubby Smith was still
Speaker 5: at Memphis before he left there to go back to
Speaker 5: High Point or wherever, there was like eight hundred transfers
Speaker 5: the first time the transfer window opened. And now there's
Speaker 5: in the thousands that the five figures of all sports,
Speaker 5: and it's just out of control. And if the NCAA
Speaker 5: ever wants to save itself, maybe they've got to find
Speaker 5: a way right now to stop it. But I think,
Speaker 5: you know, to quote Rich Brooks, you know, the horses
Speaker 5: out of the barn and some other things are out
Speaker 5: of the horse, and you can't put it back either.
Speaker 1: So well, I think that everybody knows the needs guardrails,
Speaker 1: and said is the member institutions, And then I guarantee
Speaker 1: you one hundred plus percent would love more guardrails. But
Speaker 1: I think in his day and age, Brian and I've
Speaker 1: got about a minute left, they're afraid of being sued again,
Speaker 1: or you know, the players banding together and working in
Speaker 1: on some crafty lawyers getting together. But I honestly think
Speaker 1: in the long run it could ruin sports.
Speaker 5: I think, so you know, I don't know if guardrails
Speaker 5: are even viable at this point. I mean, you're on
Speaker 5: the autobond without guardrails and there's no speed limits, and
Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough to put the genie back in
Speaker 5: the bottle here. But rules are rules, but somehow everybody
Speaker 5: seems to expedite the rules and figure out a way
Speaker 5: around things.
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, I appreciate your time. As always, we
Speaker 1: could go on all night about this stuff. But as
Speaker 1: I like to say, you know, you're one of the
Speaker 1: few guys on the beat who knows what it's like
Speaker 1: to face a Division one fastball. Who what was the
Speaker 1: best D one fastball you ever saw?
Speaker 5: Ninety eight at Western Carolina. I saw these scouts around
Speaker 5: the fence. I'm thinking that's eighty eight. Well that was
Speaker 5: just as warm up. This pitch was a strike and
Speaker 5: I looked at the umpire and he was what I said,
Speaker 5: I didn't see it. It doesn't sounded good.
Speaker 1: Who was it, do you remember?
Speaker 5: I don't know. He was about six three and skinny,
Speaker 5: and he had a small vapor trail coming off the
Speaker 5: backside of the ball.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I actually I faced a kid
Speaker 1: in uh I guess I was sixteen or seventeen who
Speaker 1: ended up in the Pirates or Cardinals chain and struck
Speaker 1: me out on three pitches. I never saw, so I
Speaker 1: know the at the on level, but he eventually was
Speaker 1: at triple A, so I know the feeling. Brian Mylin
Speaker 1: wky T. Thank you so much, sir, Thank you buddy,
Speaker 1: every good one. By the way, Brian covering a softball
Speaker 1: game right now, so that's why it's so noisy. Up next,
Speaker 1: the uber Kapper Elis Starr is going to break down
Speaker 1: the upcoming Belmont Steakes. Tomorrow's Belmont Steaks here on six thirty.
Speaker 7: W laput such stake.
Speaker 8: Taking the s anything anything back out.
Speaker 1: Such Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider joining
Speaker 1: us now we love talking horse racing with the uber
Speaker 1: Kapper Ellis Starr. You see his work on Twitter. You
Speaker 1: need to follow him. He's also got a podcast. Ellis
Speaker 1: tell everybody how to find your podcast.
Speaker 6: It's at amwager dot com, which is one of the
Speaker 6: legal betting sites, but you don't have to have an account.
Speaker 6: Just go to mwagard dot com A m W A
Speaker 6: g E R or if you follow me on Twitter
Speaker 6: at Blue Sky, I posted bout it. It's the Key
Speaker 6: Races and bets I call it, and it's a blog.
Speaker 6: And then I just recorded as a podcast as well
Speaker 6: weekly about ten twelve minutes, covering anywhere from two to
Speaker 6: five big races around the country on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Well, and I've said as many times, and I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this just to patronize my guest, but I have
Speaker 1: won money with Elis on his picks of the day.
Speaker 1: I can tell you folks that just pick your spots
Speaker 1: like anything, but it's.
Speaker 6: Always Did we talk last before last's emote?
Speaker 1: Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Because that was that was when I was just lucky,
Speaker 6: just talking somebody the other days, so I had to
Speaker 6: remind myself because I had a profile of it. I
Speaker 6: picked Doorknock at the Belmont and perid a big price
Speaker 6: because I thought he had had no shot in the
Speaker 6: Derby because he had lost speed and had an inside
Speaker 6: posts and so he got a different post. And you know,
Speaker 6: people think with longer race, even a mile on a quarter,
Speaker 6: which is last year and this year as a Saratoga,
Speaker 6: that the longer races mean that you know, horses come
Speaker 6: from behind, but no, you really need some tactical speed
Speaker 6: and door Knock had the speed last year. So if
Speaker 6: I made your money last year, I'm happy. If not,
Speaker 6: maybe we can make you and a listener some money.
Speaker 1: Of course. One of door Knock's owners of Jason Wirth,
Speaker 1: a retired baseball player who stands out in a crowd.
Speaker 1: He's a big guy, got all that hair, generally wearing
Speaker 1: a hat. I don't know about you, but I kind
Speaker 1: of think that's good for the sport, you know, because
Speaker 1: you're always we're always looking to capture new fans, and
Speaker 1: I think he at least draws attention, doesn't he.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, we have a lot of that, and
Speaker 6: it didn't good. There's I can't remember the kid's name now,
Speaker 6: but this influencer with millions of followers Instagram that it's
Speaker 6: called the stake at Stardom was his idea of America's
Speaker 6: best racing in West Point and they gave him a
Speaker 6: piece of Sandman and you know, it's it's fantastic. I mean,
Speaker 6: I certainly one hundred agree with getting big names in it,
Speaker 6: you know, to lay Toby Keith had a big stake
Speaker 6: in operation. His wife still continuing it. But when he
Speaker 6: was in he talked about it a lot. When people
Speaker 6: were interviewing him on out of the stuff, he mentioned
Speaker 6: horse racing and Jason Worth being involved and a few
Speaker 6: other people are getting into it now, so it's good.
Speaker 6: We need to broaden our horizons with the different owners
Speaker 6: and of course lots of different demographics.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still all that active, but
Speaker 1: I know Rick Patino. One of the reasons he wanted
Speaker 1: to come back to the state of Kentucky into U
Speaker 1: of L was well, first of all, I couldn't take
Speaker 1: the UK job. It wasn't open, so he took U
Speaker 1: of L. He wanted to be back near horse racing
Speaker 1: as well. He mentioned that how much he loved being
Speaker 1: around the barns in the morning, and he had a
Speaker 1: Derby horse one year. I remember that. Although I do
Speaker 1: remember ls, you'll appreciate that that. Somebody asked C. M.
Speaker 1: Newton when he got here, Hey, are you going to
Speaker 1: get involved in racing like you know some of the
Speaker 1: other people Rick Patino, and he said, my father once
Speaker 1: told me never invest in anything that eats while you sleep.
Speaker 1: So he stayed away. He stayed way from horse racing. Well,
Speaker 1: let's get let's get to the business at hand, right now,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about bigger picture in a minute. But the
Speaker 1: Belmont steaks, as we said at Sarah Toga this year,
Speaker 1: a field of eight at the shorter track. So it's
Speaker 1: a mile and a quarter. And you told me off
Speaker 1: the air you prefer that that distance in lieu of
Speaker 1: a mile and a half. Is that right?
Speaker 6: I guess I should say I don't mind it. You know,
Speaker 6: people talk about, you know, the way it's always been,
Speaker 6: and you'll go back to a mile and a half.
Speaker 6: Belmont is rebuilding their racetrack and a new facility, a
Speaker 6: great footprint with a lot of upscale amenities, and it'll
Speaker 6: be ready for twenty twenty seven because they'll host the
Speaker 6: Breeders Cup. Keino host Breeders Cup in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6: And I don't mind a mile and a quarter because
Speaker 6: it's really the same as the Derby the mile and
Speaker 6: a half. It does make it special, though, when a
Speaker 6: horse does win the trip Crown, they really accomplished something,
Speaker 6: not only three races in five weeks, but no horses
Speaker 6: ever run a mile and a half to that point,
Speaker 6: and certainly the horses that have won the triple Crown
Speaker 6: have been worried of it by virtue of doing both
Speaker 6: those accomplishments, the five weeks, three races and all, so
Speaker 6: running a mile and a half. But it's harder for
Speaker 6: horses to run. They're not bread for it as much
Speaker 6: and they need a certain amount of stamina. But the
Speaker 6: mile quarter is just fine with me.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you weren't surprised covering the sport as long
Speaker 1: as you have knowing these trainers that Bill Mott chose
Speaker 1: not to run the Derby winner in the Precknet. He's
Speaker 1: not a big fan of running three year olds and
Speaker 1: a mile and a quarter on the first Saturday in May.
Speaker 1: Disappointed to a lot of people. But how did you
Speaker 1: take that news?
Speaker 6: Well, I was disappointed, but not surprised. I mean, certainly,
Speaker 6: first of all, you're going to do what's right by
Speaker 6: the war. Second of all, he doesn't lose any value
Speaker 6: not running in the practice, and that's really unfortunately pragmatically,
Speaker 6: that's the way it is, because you know, the horse
Speaker 6: goes from being worth maybe a few million being worth
Speaker 6: thirty forty fifty million. Yes, what you could accomplish in
Speaker 6: the prectice. If you lose, you don't lose value, but
Speaker 6: you certainly don't gain die and if you win, okay,
Speaker 6: you're not really gaining that much value, So what do
Speaker 6: you do? Plus it's good Dolfsen. One of the world
Speaker 6: class operations is farms here in Kentucky, a couple in
Speaker 6: Australia and Europe and all over the world. So you know,
Speaker 6: they don't really care. He's going to stand, you know,
Speaker 6: at their farm when he's done, so he's really not
Speaker 6: going to be syndicated. They might get some partners, but
Speaker 6: probably not. And therefore, you know there's nothing to do.
Speaker 6: You want to do what's right, and you want to
Speaker 6: win the Belmont. You also want to you know, you
Speaker 6: really have a good three year old. You're going to
Speaker 6: want to save him for later in the year to
Speaker 6: run on the Travelers and hopefully the Breeders Cup and
Speaker 6: then retire and then go to stud So I certainly
Speaker 6: understand it disappointed like everybody else. But on the other hand,
Speaker 6: we had held frequescy only I mean with journalism getting
Speaker 6: trapped at the quarter pole and showing.
Speaker 5: What makes a thoroughbred a thoroughbrid, like.
Speaker 6: Just saying I'm not going to lose this race. He
Speaker 6: made up five lengths in an eighth of a mile.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: It is. It is a heroic move. Some people thought
Speaker 1: there was some chicanery there that maybe he should have
Speaker 1: been there should have been a foul claim against him,
Speaker 1: but no, I just think that that was racing, robins
Speaker 1: racing and horse racing too.
Speaker 6: It's race riding. Yeah, what I commented to somebody who
Speaker 6: was sometimes in racist jockeys will ride two races at
Speaker 6: once because not only the trying to win, but they're
Speaker 6: also trying to ensure that their toughest competition doesn't get
Speaker 6: any advantage. And that's what Pratt was doing. He didn't
Speaker 6: know that his horse was running out of gas at
Speaker 6: that time. He ate the horse on the rail was
Speaker 6: kind of running out of gas, but Pratts rush wasn't
Speaker 6: necessarily running out of gas at that point, and he
Speaker 6: was trying to keep journalism kind of trapped in while
Speaker 6: he was accelerating, and that you're allowed to do that. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: he also hit him, which is another issue, but since
Speaker 6: he's finished behind them, there's really no foul there.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Hello Star, he is the uber Capper
Speaker 1: and we're talking about, of course, the upcoming Beaumont Stakes
Speaker 1: tomorrow at Saratoga an ADOR's field, and yes no triple
Speaker 1: crown on the line, but a fascinating field because the
Speaker 1: top three finishers in the Derby are reunited, plus Derby
Speaker 1: winner versus Preakness winner and some new sh shooters. As
Speaker 1: always Kenny McPeak, we talked with him last week over
Speaker 1: at his barn. He really loves sovereignty. Once again, that's
Speaker 1: the second choice right now, journalism is top choice at
Speaker 1: eight to five. Is it going to be one of
Speaker 1: these two ls? You think.
Speaker 6: He would be one of those two or Baas and Baza.
Speaker 6: I think that's the horse that I picked on top,
Speaker 6: not only because he had to value at four to
Speaker 6: one on the starting odds, but also because there's an
Speaker 6: experience issue here. So this is a horse and I
Speaker 6: know we talked for the Derby. First of all, talk
Speaker 6: about pedigree. So he's by the damn Puka who produced
Speaker 6: made the Derby winner two years ago, produced door Knock,
Speaker 6: who might have won the Derby if he hadn't had
Speaker 6: a horrible post, and did win the Belmont last year.
Speaker 6: And then the same damn is now produced bays And
Speaker 6: who just got a late start. And this is where
Speaker 6: experience comes in and you think of thoroughbred's as athletes.
Speaker 6: You know, Baeza when he first ran in December, Sovereignty
Speaker 6: had already run three times, Journalism had already run twice,
Speaker 6: and Journalism, you know, two weeks later won a stake
Speaker 6: trace and Soigny and Sovereignty had already won a stake trace.
Speaker 6: He wanted the three cents of Turchill down. So Beza
Speaker 6: had a big experience, you know, lapse momentally and physically,
Speaker 6: and Jerrem Beza did. And in his second start he
Speaker 6: ran second to Rodriguez, who's back in this race. And Regaz,
Speaker 6: of course is a horse that he needs to lead
Speaker 6: to winning and a foot problem, crashed out of the derby,
Speaker 6: but he's only a horse that wins on the league,
Speaker 6: and he controlled the tempo and then when Beza, you know,
Speaker 6: got a little better trip that next time out, he
Speaker 6: exploded and he won by almost five lengths. And then
Speaker 6: he put him in the Sandy Derby and he gave
Speaker 6: the experience problem. He's not a problem, but he experienced
Speaker 6: the issue where Beesa makes the lead. He doesn't really
Speaker 6: know what to do at that point. With Nathan Miles
Speaker 6: Ago and Journalism, by virtue of having run two more times.
Speaker 6: Journalism had run, baaz had run three times, Generals had
Speaker 6: run five right, and Journalism just poured it on and
Speaker 6: beat him. And then he comes back on the Derby
Speaker 6: and then you get the same problem Bason's fifteen. After
Speaker 6: let's say three quarters of a mile, He's Journalism is
Speaker 6: tenth at that point. Sovereignty is further back at sixteenth.
Speaker 6: But they both extricate from traffic and Bazakats kind of
Speaker 6: stuck their studied about the five sixteenths of a mile
Speaker 6: and then he loses second by a neck with a
Speaker 6: really good rally. Today in the Belmont, now he doesn't
Speaker 6: have to pass He was nineteenth at the beginning of
Speaker 6: the Jervy, so now he doesn't have to pass eighteen horses.
Speaker 6: He only the past seven. And I think he's caught
Speaker 6: up an experience, so I think he could win the race.
Speaker 1: You know that mattered. I mean people who may not
Speaker 1: know or follow as much horse racing, but they're not
Speaker 1: just out there running, you know, for the heck of it.
Speaker 1: You know, they take at least the good horses do.
Speaker 1: And I remember, I'll never forget Silver Charm was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite derby winners. What was it ninety seven
Speaker 1: and he beat a horse named Captain Bodgett. It was
Speaker 1: really good. Those horses didn't like each other. They knew
Speaker 1: that from when they were around each other in the arms,
Speaker 1: and so silver Charm. He you know, he raced more
Speaker 1: than once against Captain Bodgett, and when that horse came
Speaker 1: up on him, he kick it into a different gear.
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, they're not all like that, are they,
Speaker 1: But a lot of them are. And as you point out,
Speaker 1: if an experienced horse is on the front end, he
Speaker 1: doesn't know what's supposed to happen next, and so experience matters.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Elis Star, the uber Capper. We'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk more about the Bellmont in just a
Speaker 1: minute here on six thirty wlap. Welcome back. We're talking
Speaker 1: to Elis Starr. He is the uber capper. That's his
Speaker 1: handle on Twitter or x if you will. And of
Speaker 1: course we're talking about tomorrow's Belmont Stakes. A field of
Speaker 1: eight at Saratoga Track not big enough to handle a
Speaker 1: mile and a half race, so it's a mile and
Speaker 1: a quarter. And if the field of eight includes some,
Speaker 1: as Ellis said, some really interesting horses, speed horses do
Speaker 1: you like either or any I think there are what
Speaker 1: four long shots. I heard one of the talking kids
Speaker 1: talking about Crudo. I think that's a pletcher horse. What
Speaker 1: do you like about him him? If anything?
Speaker 6: Well, Crudo, So this is interesting. Crudeo is owned by
Speaker 6: Bobby Flay and for the any of that watches any
Speaker 6: of the food Yes, you know, Crudo is a food term,
Speaker 6: and Bobby said, incrude horses and career. Cruis a really
Speaker 6: nice horse. He won the Sir Barton Steaks on the
Speaker 6: Freakness undercard. What's interesting is in terms of how fast
Speaker 6: he ran when you look at the call Echo base
Speaker 6: speed figure which normalizes time based on track journalism, got
Speaker 6: a one nine and Crudo got one hundred one hundred
Speaker 6: on the same day. But Crude doesn't need the lead
Speaker 6: type at least since two wins, has only went around
Speaker 6: two turns. And that's the problem is Rodriguez is inside
Speaker 6: of him. Crudo is a really nice horse. He's gonna
Speaker 6: have a great career. He's by a triple Crown winner, Justify,
Speaker 6: and he's in good hands. But unfortunately Roriguez is going
Speaker 6: to go for the lead and Crude at this time
Speaker 6: with both with a when the horses both of the
Speaker 6: winds or all their winds are only shown and leadings
Speaker 6: from start to finish. He just, you know the old
Speaker 6: cliche leopard doesn't change his spots, right, So I don't
Speaker 6: think he can change his style. Maybe Putterer's been training
Speaker 6: that way. We'll find out. But based on what you
Speaker 6: see on paper, Crudo on Rigaz, both Rodriguez both seem
Speaker 6: to want the lead hill roads. Interesting as a horse
Speaker 6: that came on for third at sixty to one in
Speaker 6: the Breeders Cup last November, then he was off till March.
Speaker 6: He ran third, and then he won the peter Pan Stakes,
Speaker 6: which two horses have come back to win the Belmont
Speaker 6: Tonalists and Archangelo two years ago won the Belmonts and
Speaker 6: the peter Pan. But those are both a mile and
Speaker 6: a half, so that's a prep that works. He doesn't
Speaker 6: see he's trained by Chad Brown. He's nothing been a
Speaker 6: great pedigree. Another horse that I might consider having a shot.
Speaker 6: I'd like him better than Rodriguez or Crudo. They could
Speaker 6: hold on. But you've got three three closures in the
Speaker 6: race and journalism, sovereignty and Baeza. So I think the
Speaker 6: speed horses are going to get pretty tired. Hill Road
Speaker 6: could probably be in the money. Is one of the
Speaker 6: long shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm big on the closers. Although horses have stolen races.
Speaker 1: I mean, last year Baffer Tours stole the Freakness, so
Speaker 1: in the most famous man be winning Colors, winning the
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby the Philly by stealing the race. A few
Speaker 1: minutes left with Ellis Starr, we're talking, of course about
Speaker 1: the Belmont Stakes coming up. I think you and I
Speaker 1: may have talked about this briefly last year, but once
Speaker 1: again Bill Mott's decision kind of reignited the human cry
Speaker 1: about changing the calendar for the Triple Crown. I have
Speaker 1: kind of done a one eighty on it, Ellis. Now,
Speaker 1: with the way that trainers have changed the way they're
Speaker 1: bringing up horses because of the huge purses, they don't
Speaker 1: have to run every two to three weeks to make
Speaker 1: their money. You know, they can hold off and just
Speaker 1: run periodically and go after those and so that means
Speaker 1: the breed has changed. And again to your point, to
Speaker 1: do what's best for the horse, I think I kind
Speaker 1: of think they I hate what I would kind of
Speaker 1: regret seeing them do it, but I understand if they
Speaker 1: change the calendar, because that's what's best for the horses,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Well, to your point, you know what's the goal? So
Speaker 6: is the goal to make it better for the horses?
Speaker 6: They have longer careers and three year olds and are
Speaker 6: really not if they're that good, they're going to retire
Speaker 6: because they've got all the value for a staid career.
Speaker 6: Is the goal to get more fan engagement and get
Speaker 6: more betting. That's the possible reason to do it, only
Speaker 6: because if you had spread it out so that the
Speaker 6: last ones in the fall. But I read a bunch
Speaker 6: of stories about how it goes up against college sports,
Speaker 6: how it goes up against the major leagues baseball, you know,
Speaker 6: things like that.
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 6: Then by having it, you know, in by having the
Speaker 6: third part of the Tipple Crown in June, you really
Speaker 6: aren't competing the same thing. As soon as you start
Speaker 6: moving this September, then you've got a problem. So do
Speaker 6: you get more do you get more betting? Are the
Speaker 6: horses doing it? And then you've got the issues where
Speaker 6: you've got this the Midcember deruby they call the travers
Speaker 6: right at Saratoga, that's already there at the million in
Speaker 6: the quarter and that's a really important race and it's
Speaker 6: two much before the Breeders' Cup. So what you know,
Speaker 6: what's the reason you're doing if you're doing it for
Speaker 6: the breede Nah, I don't know that the doing, you know,
Speaker 6: make it you're not going to get more horses. I
Speaker 6: think by spreading it out. If you're doing it for handle,
Speaker 6: maybe even then you run into this issue of competition,
Speaker 6: and so that's a big deal. On the other end
Speaker 6: of the way it's been certainly when a horse does
Speaker 6: accomplish the goal of even winning two out of the three,
Speaker 6: but certainly all three, they mean something because you've done
Speaker 6: You've run just you've never run before, You've done it
Speaker 6: in five weeks, and you've got to be, you know,
Speaker 6: in the best fitness of your career to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I agree with that much. But I just
Speaker 1: I get so tired of hearing about how all this
Speaker 1: sport's on its last legs and all that. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about the eyeballs it brings. And you're right, you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't back it up too much. But I like
Speaker 1: the first weekend in May, first weekend in June, first
Speaker 1: weekend in July, which is just a no man's land
Speaker 1: other than Big League Baseball in terms of sports. I
Speaker 1: think that would work, but you know it's, uh, you
Speaker 1: got to get the tracks to all agree, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's ever going to happen, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well I think I could agree that the other isshue
Speaker 6: distance again, you know, you want the fall on it.
Speaker 6: A mile and a quarters. They didn't get more horses
Speaker 6: than a mile and a half. And you know, there's
Speaker 6: been a lot of recent on social media looking back
Speaker 6: at some of the best Belmonts and the Dullmants had
Speaker 6: a lot of short fields regardless of whether there's been
Speaker 6: a Triple Crown contender in the race, because no one
Speaker 6: wants to run against him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: because of verses one, two in a row? How am
Speaker 6: I going to be? Then there's I'm gonna I'm going
Speaker 6: to play the spoiler. But you don't get big field
Speaker 6: in the Belmont. So maybe it's distance as apposed to timing.
Speaker 6: There's no way to know. You can try things, but
Speaker 6: because of you know, major television, it's very difficult to
Speaker 6: plan ahead that four or five year contracts, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: with the major networks.
Speaker 1: I just love when there's a triple crown. Don't know,
Speaker 1: everybody does. When there's a triple crown possibility. Everybody loves that.
Speaker 1: And to me, more of that, please, is what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up when I did, when you did,
Speaker 1: you know, people loved teams had long winning streaks, people
Speaker 1: loved boxers who were undefeated, people loved triple crown winners.
Speaker 1: It was like the country came together. I remember when
Speaker 1: American Pharaoh won the triple crown. I was at a
Speaker 1: at a wedding reception, and uh, I went downstairs. It
Speaker 1: was at a facility in Louisville. I went downstairs to
Speaker 1: the to the public area of the bar to watch
Speaker 1: the race because upstairs the reception didn't have a TV.
Speaker 1: I watched American Pharaoh win the triple crown, and I
Speaker 1: went upstairs and there was a pause in the music,
Speaker 1: and I yelled American Pharaoh won a triple crown, and
Speaker 1: the whole place went nuts. So I just like stuff
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, Not that I
Speaker 1: have to announce it, but just that everybody loves that.
Speaker 6: You know, it was bound. I mean, the study have
Speaker 6: been done at Belmont Park when there's triple ground the
Speaker 6: line you know it's two to three times to handle
Speaker 6: in the bedding.
Speaker 1: Then when it's not, Yeah, no, I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 6: I do you achieved that?
Speaker 5: It's a big question.
Speaker 1: That's right, so to recap you like Biaza because of
Speaker 1: the past.
Speaker 6: By yeah, the price, and also because I'd experienced. I mean,
Speaker 6: certainly it's going to be a good win bet. I
Speaker 6: can't see much past sovereignty and journalism, so I play exactly.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't box. I wouldn't say exactly box of sovereignty
Speaker 6: journalism the two favorites, but i'd box Bys and Salvaggy
Speaker 6: box base and journalism. I wouldn't argue with someone that
Speaker 6: thought Rodriguez recruito could hang on where the hill road
Speaker 6: might be able to get up for a second. But
Speaker 6: for me, most of the race for me is via
Speaker 6: the wind bet because I think he is the right
Speaker 6: horse at the right time.
Speaker 1: It's all about the value and Baza offers that. Plus
Speaker 1: he's got some pretty good speed figures behind his name.
Speaker 1: Once again, our thanks to Elis Star. We always check
Speaker 1: Ellis pick of the day. You can follow him on
Speaker 1: Twitter at uber Kapper tell everybody again how to find
Speaker 1: your podcast.
Speaker 6: It's an Amazon dot com. I do pcap, but you
Speaker 6: can check the Race the Week every week at equobased
Speaker 6: dot com. It's a national Race of the Week and
Speaker 6: usually post my links to other all my other blogs
Speaker 6: on Twitter and on Blue Sky.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, as always, have a great Belmont Day.
Speaker 6: Thanks Vick Co. Look everybody, and when.
Speaker 1: We come back, we'll take a look back at the
Speaker 1: week that was. I had Heroes, Fools and Flakes on
Speaker 1: six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Inside,
Speaker 1: and we're going to take a look back at some
Speaker 1: of the things we discussed this past week in case
Speaker 1: you missed. But before we do that, I did want
Speaker 1: to bring up a couple of things. Brian Milin mentioned
Speaker 1: a Heidi game and I said, look it up. I
Speaker 1: feel like I really need to share this with you
Speaker 1: kids out there. And you know what, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I was watching this game back in nineteen sixty eight. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just a kid. I was with thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: and back then, of course there were only three networks
Speaker 1: plus PBS, but on NFL Sundays that's what you watched,
Speaker 1: and there was a huge game matching the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: I mean the old school, traditional bad boy Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: and the New York Jets of Joe Namath. And this
Speaker 1: was on November the seventeens regular season game, but it
Speaker 1: was a big game. NBC back then had the old AFL, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think they know they weren't the AFC yet
Speaker 1: they were still the AFL. NBC switched away from that
Speaker 1: game period for good. It wasn't just a drop in
Speaker 1: fluke like that station in Fort Wayne. No, NBC decided
Speaker 1: this game is over, sixty five seconds left and it
Speaker 1: was tight. I mean it was like thirty two to
Speaker 1: twenty nine. I think. Well, the Raiders scored two touchdowns
Speaker 1: in a nine to second span to win at forty
Speaker 1: three to thirty two. And that is what the rage
Speaker 1: after that, not just from Raider fans and Jet fans,
Speaker 1: but NFL fans in general, is what prompted the networks
Speaker 1: to start shifting time. I mean, Oakland scores three touchdowns
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter to come from mine and win
Speaker 1: that game. The Jets and Raiders met again later in December,
Speaker 1: late twenty ninth of December in New York in the
Speaker 1: AFL Championship game. The Jets won that game twenty seven
Speaker 1: to twenty three. Two weeks later they beat the Colts
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl three. Yes it was that New York
Speaker 1: Jets team. Once again, it is National Donut Day, and
Speaker 1: earlier this week here in the garage, Camer Mills joined us.
Speaker 1: We talked about wasted time, the whole segment on how
Speaker 1: Cameron wants to start his own line of cold brew coffee,
Speaker 1: and somehow we got to talking about donuts, and I
Speaker 1: brought up an important chapter in Camera Mills history when
Speaker 1: he tried to single handedly bring Krispy Kreme Donuts to
Speaker 1: lexingon coming out of UK pre and il. Of course,
Speaker 1: you guys were part of the Barnstorming Tour, which is
Speaker 1: a great tell.
Speaker 9: There was one every year, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Great tradition, and so you had a little a change
Speaker 1: in your pocket.
Speaker 10: Well, we had just won a national championship, which is
Speaker 10: always funny if you look back at the autograph set,
Speaker 10: the guys who graduate and autograph stess as they get
Speaker 10: to do which again it's completely different now. They get
Speaker 10: to do them while they were players. But if you
Speaker 10: come out, if your last season at UK is a
Speaker 10: final four, those autographs tours and barnstorm tours, which they
Speaker 10: really don't do much anymore.
Speaker 9: They're going to be successful.
Speaker 10: You come out of UK and your last year is
Speaker 10: a national champion and you've actually got two of those
Speaker 10: suckers and.
Speaker 9: One runner up. Yeah, they go incredibly well.
Speaker 10: And we had three thousand people two days after the
Speaker 10: National Championship Game ninety eight. We have three thousand Jeff Shepherd,
Speaker 10: Allen Edwards and I with three seniors, and eventually Nause
Speaker 10: joined us because he was gonna go pro. We had
Speaker 10: three thousand people at Fayette Mall get in line winning
Speaker 10: our autograph.
Speaker 1: You remember.
Speaker 10: For autograph, Well, we didn't charge for autograph. Fayette Mall
Speaker 10: in that case paid us per hour to be there,
Speaker 10: and it was still an obscene amount good and I
Speaker 10: and that's the thing I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 10: feel comfortable saying it. I'll tell you off the area
Speaker 10: and I've told I've told other people before. It's not
Speaker 10: like it's a secret. But I'll just say it's like
Speaker 10: three thousand dollars an hour, all right for the three
Speaker 10: of us to sit there and sign our name, okay,
Speaker 10: And what made it amazing that day and granted it
Speaker 10: was the very first one we had, and it's tailed
Speaker 10: off in the last twenty five years. Folks, Okay, I
Speaker 10: I'm not charging that much anymore. And uh, but the
Speaker 10: line they paid us for three hours, that was the deal.
Speaker 10: There were still at least seven hundred people in line
Speaker 10: of three hours, and so the manager of f MAAL
Speaker 10: came to us in our ears we're signing and saying, hey,
Speaker 10: we don't want to disappoint anybody, would you guys stay
Speaker 10: an extra.
Speaker 9: Hour for half of what we're paid you per hour?
Speaker 1: And we're like, well, heck, yeah, nice. I mean that
Speaker 1: everything else you made. Yeah, you had some some coins
Speaker 1: seed money, and you had a great idea because at
Speaker 1: the time election didn't did not have a certain franchise,
Speaker 1: so which you know, when you brought it up, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder why so you investigated what?
Speaker 10: So I grew up appreciating, as sane rational people do, Yes,
Speaker 10: the gloriousness of the hot Krispy Kreme Exactly when the
Speaker 10: hot light is not on, you don't go. When the
Speaker 10: hot light is on, you get two dozen and you
Speaker 10: down them.
Speaker 9: Immediately, all right, hot don't know that works out?
Speaker 10: So I decided because they the only one I'd ever
Speaker 10: been to is in Tallahassee, Florida, where my mom's from. Gotcha,
Speaker 10: And that was like a tradition we'd got done for Christmas.
Speaker 10: And on Saturday while we were there, Dad would go
Speaker 10: to Krispy Kremen he come back with the cruelers. By
Speaker 10: the way, Krispy Kreme your greatest mistake ever getting rid
Speaker 10: of the ruler?
Speaker 1: Did they really?
Speaker 9: They did?
Speaker 10: They still you still find them, but they don't make
Speaker 10: them in their stores. Really, And let me tell you
Speaker 10: the greatest culinary experience of my life was happening to
Speaker 10: be in a Krispy Kreme because hotlight was on. Because
Speaker 10: that's the rule. You don't pass the Krispy krem hotline
Speaker 10: is on, right, you don't pass it. That is literally
Speaker 10: in the Bible that's a sin. So so I'm I'm
Speaker 10: I'm in there, and they're not it's the hot lights on,
Speaker 10: but they're not making their glaze.
Speaker 9: They're making their crulers.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, and I I already love coolers, and
Speaker 9: I'm thinking hot cruelers? Is is that possible? I mean, okay,
Speaker 9: So I got a dozen gracing I've ever put in
Speaker 9: my mouth.
Speaker 1: All I can think is the scene from The Simpsons
Speaker 1: or Homer Hell strapped into a chair and they're shoving
Speaker 1: donuts into his mouth with a machine and he just
Speaker 1: keeps going more, more more, and the devil says, James
Speaker 1: Coco went mad in an hour.
Speaker 10: I don't even know James Cocoa. It is an actor anyway.
Speaker 10: So yeah, I said, why don't we have a Krispy Kreme?
Speaker 10: And like, right, and you were.
Speaker 1: Going to put the seed money? Well I was, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Krispy Kremes.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think that's what they would let me
Speaker 10: call it, but I was. I at least called, Yeah,
Speaker 10: got in touch Winston Sale in California, which sale in
Speaker 10: North Carolina, got on the phone with the vice president
Speaker 10: of franchise. I mean, come on, who is he? Especially now,
Speaker 10: especially now in my well, that's exactly how it turned out.
Speaker 10: And I just said to I introduce myself. I said,
Speaker 10: I've run into some money.
Speaker 1: That's wait a minute, when you introduced yourself, did you
Speaker 1: say national championship?
Speaker 10: Now, I might have said I'm a former Kentucky basketball
Speaker 10: player to maybe kind of grease the.
Speaker 9: Wheels a little bit.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, but I just said, I've run into some
Speaker 10: money and i'd like to I'd like to inquire about
Speaker 10: the possibility of a franchise, Chrispy Kreme franchise full store
Speaker 10: right in Lexing, Kentucky. The rest of the conversation lasted
Speaker 10: five seconds, and I'm not kidding. That's no exaggeration. He
Speaker 10: literally said, there's no market for one there click and
Speaker 10: hung up on me. Now again, all right, dream shattered,
Speaker 10: you overcome right. Two years later, one freaking opened up
Speaker 10: over there on Frischman Road, and we're there every Saturday.
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 9: Alex loves them. Alex loves them.
Speaker 10: We were there the other day and and they were
Speaker 10: making hot ones.
Speaker 9: But they weren't.
Speaker 10: They weren't the glaze, they were the They were the
Speaker 10: ones you stuff that you put cream in. He was devastating,
Speaker 10: and I told him, I said, buddy, they're still hot.
Speaker 1: My faves are the the jelly stuff. Oh those about
Speaker 1: the least favorite raspberry or lemon? Oh my god, my.
Speaker 10: Least favorite, to be honest, is when Krispy Kreme feels
Speaker 10: like they have to do these special limited release donuts
Speaker 10: come till we don't know, we don't need a Grinch donut.
Speaker 1: We don't you talk about the hot donuts now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: as we drift further and further our topics, but one
Speaker 1: of our favorite stories we tell people about the UK
Speaker 1: network is from football and we this was a year,
Speaker 1: There were a couple of years. Here's some inside baseball
Speaker 1: for you, a couple of years when the contract was
Speaker 1: up and our company, the rights holder, was going to
Speaker 1: prepare a bid to try to win it back. So
Speaker 1: now they're trying to squeeze every dollar they can and
Speaker 1: what might be the last year with the contract. And
Speaker 1: again this happened a couple of times. So instead of
Speaker 1: us flying with the team, we were asked to drive everywhere,
Speaker 1: including hard you all to fly with the team? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we have to buy seats because the university has
Speaker 1: to buy the seats.
Speaker 10: Anyway, they're buying the seats or they buy the plane.
Speaker 10: There are there are seats that go unused on these flights.
Speaker 10: I've been on many of them.
Speaker 1: Not on football.
Speaker 9: Oh I don't know about football anyhow.
Speaker 1: So we're we're all piles stuffed into this suv and
Speaker 1: our late great statistician, Errol Thomas Brownie was driving, and
Speaker 1: our producer, our great the great producer. Mike Dodson's in
Speaker 1: the front seat.
Speaker 10: Who just got a promotion, by the way, with state government.
Speaker 10: Did you see that, Mike Dodson. No, no, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 10: not Mike. Jim Barnhart Sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyhow, the other day, Jim's a our basket a
Speaker 1: ball producer. Now anyway, So we pull out of the
Speaker 1: stadium at Florida. It's it's early evening, after covering yet
Speaker 1: another butt kicking, you know, now they go down there
Speaker 1: with a chance to win. But back then, no, so
Speaker 1: we had just been you know, we're numb to just
Speaker 1: another and it's a long drive home brother from Gainesville. Well,
Speaker 1: Harold inadvertently takes a wrong turn and goes left instead
Speaker 1: of right, and we passed a Krispy Kream. Okay, we
Speaker 1: don't really think about it, but we we passed Krispy
Speaker 1: Kreme and then immediately realize we're going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: So Harold does a yui or turn, pulls in, turns around,
Speaker 1: and in the interim the time it took the turnaround
Speaker 1: hot like hot donuts. Now, Mike Dodson lost his money,
Speaker 1: so you gotta stop, Harrold. Come, well, Harold's thing was
Speaker 1: he never stopped what he drove every mile of every trip.
Speaker 1: He loved driving. Okay, he drove an RV to Little Rock,
Speaker 1: Arkansas one year, the entire way and getting Harold to
Speaker 1: stop unless, you know, unless you really had to go,
Speaker 1: you know. Well, so as soon as the rest of
Speaker 1: us realized what was going on, Yeah, there were three
Speaker 1: of us in a vaccinate pounding on the seat like Harold, stop,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop, man, Harold, and Mikey's in the front seat. Harold,
Speaker 1: come on. He finally relented and pulled him and man,
Speaker 1: we got sick. Krispy krem Nuts.
Speaker 10: I told you story before we were in We had
Speaker 10: just beaten South Carolina and Columbia and this was one
Speaker 10: of the Patino years. And we're driving back to the airport.
Speaker 10: This is a nine o'clock ESPN game. So it is
Speaker 10: now one am, and we are just now leaving Columbia
Speaker 10: heading home.
Speaker 9: And we're driving past and.
Speaker 10: We're on our way to the airport, and we're going
Speaker 10: down this main thoroughfare in Colombia on our way to
Speaker 10: the airport, and we passed at Krispy Kreme and the
Speaker 10: hot light is on and this is one am. Hotlight
Speaker 10: is on because they got to mixed stuff. We had won,
Speaker 10: which is key to the story, of course, because if
Speaker 10: we hadn't won, no one would have said a word.
Speaker 9: But we won.
Speaker 10: So Anthony Epps screamed from the back row of the bus, Coach,
Speaker 10: can we stop it?
Speaker 9: Just like we were all on it.
Speaker 10: We were all ten years old on a vacation with
Speaker 10: our parents, and Coach said, yeah, let's stop. Wow, we
Speaker 10: pulled this bus of ravenous college guys and a butt
Speaker 10: load of other people pull into this Krispy Kreme. They
Speaker 10: send the managers of course, because of course they did
Speaker 10: in and every player got twenty four ton And look,
Speaker 10: this is a coach that is a I mean, all
Speaker 10: he cares about is how much you weigh?
Speaker 9: What do you wait?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: And Anthony and I and and which is It was
Speaker 10: silly for Anthony because Anthony's I mean, he's always he
Speaker 10: was always in shape. But remember, coach was like, okay,
Speaker 10: but you got to be quicker, so you got to
Speaker 10: lose weight. So there's always this balance for most of
Speaker 10: the guys of Okay, I need you to have strength,
Speaker 10: but you have to be light enough to be quick
Speaker 10: enough to beat your man. To get to the corner
Speaker 10: to cut off the angle, except for me who lived
Speaker 10: the opposite life of a Walter McCarty who had a
Speaker 10: ten thousand calorie a day diet and mine was about
Speaker 10: fifty calories a day. And so but anyway, so for
Speaker 10: coach to say, hey, yeah, go get them donuts and
Speaker 10: then they come back, I mean they got to make
Speaker 10: four trips in and out of the store to get
Speaker 10: all these donuts, and they hand every player two boxes
Speaker 10: and not a single donut was left.
Speaker 9: Tell me about that airport, they were all gone.
Speaker 1: You're on your way to pre diabet. Oh that was
Speaker 1: from the Big Moving Sider earlier this week, and I'd
Speaker 1: love to know where that Krispy Kreme executive is today,
Speaker 1: probably retired with a golden parachute. Well, come back with Heroes,
Speaker 1: fools and Flakes in just a minute on the Big
Speaker 1: One Sider six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Big Boon Sider. Thanks again to my guests Ellis Starr,
Speaker 1: the uber capper of Equa Basse among other things, and
Speaker 1: of course Brian Milem from WKYT. Time now for heroes,
Speaker 1: fools and flakes and our heroes of course on this day,
Speaker 1: June sixth, the anniversary of D Day, not just the athletes,
Speaker 1: but anybody who served and fought back then. And there
Speaker 1: aren't there many left, I can tell you that. But
Speaker 1: Brian and I touched on some of the athletes, some
Speaker 1: of the pro athletes who played, probably the most served,
Speaker 1: rather probably the most famous, as Brian mentioned, Bob Feller,
Speaker 1: Yogi Bear. There were so many, but there are a
Speaker 1: lot of names included that I wasn't aware of. Bobby Jones,
Speaker 1: the Great Golfer. He was forty years old and convinced
Speaker 1: the commanding officer of his reserve group to let him fight.
Speaker 9: He fought at.
Speaker 1: Normandy on D Day, but never spoke about it again,
Speaker 1: presumably scarred by the experience, and evidently that was the
Speaker 1: case for a lot of people who fought in any war,
Speaker 1: really Vietnam, Korea, but World War Two as well. I
Speaker 1: lived next door to Sandy Bell, the former UK Compliance
Speaker 1: Director still work to the UK. Her dad served in
Speaker 1: World War Two and in fact was one of the
Speaker 1: driving forces behind the World War Two memorial in d C.
Speaker 1: He was delivered to Washington, d C. Several years ago
Speaker 1: on an honors flight so he could be there when
Speaker 1: they unveiled the statue commemorating those who fought and died
Speaker 1: in World War Two. And he told me he is
Speaker 1: a great neighbor. He told me one story about serving
Speaker 1: he served, and I think the Philippines told me one story.
Speaker 1: And that was it. And you can't blame these guys
Speaker 1: and women for not wanting to talk about what happened.
Speaker 1: More than one hundred and fifty thousand soldiers from the US,
Speaker 1: Canada and the UK stormed the shores that day, led
Speaker 1: by Dwight Eisenhower. Of course, Henry Fonda served, was a lieutenant,
Speaker 1: was thirty seven years old. He enlisted in forty two,
Speaker 1: said he didn't want to be a fake in the
Speaker 1: war studio, and was one of the guys supporting D Day.
Speaker 1: Was a quartermaster on a destroyer at D Day, and
Speaker 1: of course later was in the Longest Day, which focused
Speaker 1: on the events of D Day. He had a starring role.
Speaker 1: Also there was an Irish actor named Richard Todd who
Speaker 1: played a part of that movie. After serving, he was
Speaker 1: part of the British airborne invasion and he parachuted out
Speaker 1: of a glider. He was in his group the first
Speaker 1: to touch the ground. His group jumped out of their
Speaker 1: planes to stop the Germans from crossing a bridge that
Speaker 1: would have allowed them to attack. So Richard Todd also
Speaker 1: was in the Longest Day, along with Henry Fonda. Two
Speaker 1: D Day vets in a movie of D Day. But
Speaker 1: other names of famous people who served. J. D. Salinger,
Speaker 1: the author wrote The Catcher in the Rye, one of
Speaker 1: the most famous novels in history of American literature, helped
Speaker 1: invade Utah Beach on D Day, and it has said
Speaker 1: that his time in the war informed much of his writing.
Speaker 1: You know who else served? James Dowan. That's right, Scottie
Speaker 1: on Star Trek. He was a lieutenant in the Canadian Army.
Speaker 1: His men were in charge of taking Juno Beach on
Speaker 1: D Day. He was hit by six bullets that day
Speaker 1: but obviously survived it, and one of them cost him
Speaker 1: the middle finger on one of his hands, but that
Speaker 1: was it. Obviously survive went onto an acting career and
Speaker 1: became best known for Scotti. And by the way, when
Speaker 1: they were making Star Trek, they had to make sure
Speaker 1: they never showed that hand with the missing finger. Medgar
Speaker 1: Evers activist ACP member part of a segregated unit of
Speaker 1: Black soldiers in charge of delivering supplies during the Normandy invasion.
Speaker 1: Another actor, David Niven, served. He was one of the
Speaker 1: first officers to land at Normandy. He later awarded the
Speaker 1: US Legion of Merit Medal. Sir Alec Guinness Obi Wan Kenobi,
Speaker 1: part of the British Royal Navy during World War Two,
Speaker 1: helped land an aircraft that brought British troops to the
Speaker 1: beaches of Normandy. Finally, Charles Derning, an actor. He played
Speaker 1: the father of the Jessica Land character in Tutsie, and
Speaker 1: he's been in a zillion movies, but he's I think
Speaker 1: he's best known maybe for that one. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of others. He landed on Omaha Beach in one
Speaker 1: of the first waves. That was one of the few
Speaker 1: soldiers in that first wave to survive. He was shot
Speaker 1: several times, went on to become a winner of the
Speaker 1: Purple Heart and the Silver Star. So obviously those are
Speaker 1: the heroes we welcome and we remember today are full tonight.
Speaker 1: Anybody at that station in Fort Waite, Indiana who had
Speaker 1: anything to do with that news teas being dropped in
Speaker 1: over top of the Pacers game. They got out just
Speaker 1: in time our flake tonight will leave you with this.
Speaker 1: It's the call from Korean broadcasting of the final shot,
Speaker 1: the final play of last night's Pacers thunder game. These
Speaker 1: guys had a great time. That's it.
Speaker 11: Good night from the garage in Lexington, Indiana.
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Speaker 1: Such a.
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Speaker 1: And I think the.
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