WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.480 All Tulsa BD and move them into this century and 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:05.639 help forward investigations. 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:07.599 So we're looking forward to that. I've heard it before. 4 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.160 He's a national speaker and he's a very dynamic speaker, 5 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:11.439 so we're looking forward to. 6 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:11.960 That as well. 7 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:14.199 I want to start out in saying this is a forum, 8 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:16.559 informational forum, This is not a debate. 9 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:17.960 We will have a. 10 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.559 Time at the end of this session for questions, So 11 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:23.600 hold your questions till the end, and at the end 12 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:25.440 we'll take questions. 13 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:27.039 We'll take as many questions as we. 14 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.640 Possibly can, but we're gonna have a hard stop at 15 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:33.840 eight o'clock, so you're aware of that. If we're gonna 16 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.799 try to answer both questions throughout this presentation that we've. 17 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:37.759 Gotten through the email. 18 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:41.479 We've got multiple questions that we're asked in different ways. 19 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:44.640 We're trying to hit those and just all at once 20 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.799 as we go through this presentation. There's a lot of 21 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:51.880 knowledge up here and a lot of information, and. 22 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.960 As Jen we'll said, we've been a little researching this problem. 23 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.280 Jet for over a year, but we've done a lot 24 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:58.479 of deep dives into this. We're trying to make sure 25 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:00.000 we're doing the best thing we can from the city. 26 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.240 Lord of our job is to do the best we 27 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.040 can for the sea Barrows well is to save lives 28 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.599 and investigate grinds and make this the safe relations. So 29 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:12.519 it's really important that our community supports at and we 30 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:14.439 want to make sure that we're giving you any information 31 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:14.879 to do that. 32 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.120 With that being said, if I'm made, have you gout 33 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:19.680 your hands. 34 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:24.359 And went over with the word break Lord, God, have 35 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:25.959 me father as we come to you not and just 36 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.120 be with these persons in this room. Lord, lead us 37 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.640 and guides. Help us to be respectful to one another, 38 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.200 hear each other, and Lord, help us to open our 39 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.760 ears and and close our mouths in some aspects so 40 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.120 that we hear what we're hearing and understand what we're hearing, 41 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.519 as well as share share what we feel like we 42 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.359 need to share in total respect. Ord, just be with 43 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.319 us tonight and I'll let you. We'll be done, and 44 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:48.079 your precious name. 45 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:48.359 Amen. 46 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:51.480 We're gonna start with mister Wildric. 47 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.159 Thinking it a lot. 48 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.799 So that was the assistants returning here right there. 49 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:03.480 Une raise you, So. 50 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.439 Is this working sort? 51 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:06.799 Okay? 52 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.479 I can talk really loud to We'll know that. So 53 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.439 everybody welcome. I appreciate all being here. It's a lot 54 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.479 of community interests. I appreciate that you got a lot 55 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.680 of places and have a thing like this and no 56 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.120 one show up. And I'm talking to Chief Tackleberry all night, 57 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:22.639 that'd be be something. So if they go being here, Yeah, 58 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.360 this is the policy decision. I'm not here making policy. 59 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.199 I'm a sision of Bartlesville. But I'm here to give 60 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.159 you information what the law is and what the law 61 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.840 means in this regard to these licensed plate meater cameras. 62 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.520 I'm gonna say LPR a lot because I can say 63 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.879 that fast. I'm still wanna say, look like these guys 64 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.719 behind you, these captain's over here, look at their uniform. 65 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.680 Look at amazing they still fit. You talk about this? 66 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:48.599 You mean general that makes this all right? 67 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.520 So here we're gonna do It's like a look at 68 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:54.000 educational outline here. So we're gonna talk the fourth amend 69 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.479 the first, then what a search is, and ex patient 70 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.560 of privacy, some examples in Kaes law. Of course, my insurers, 71 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.400 because I can say something up here all right, bought 72 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.560 me a little bit. You can probably talk to my accent. 73 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.840 I'm from New York. I've actually the sky took Oklahoma, 74 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:13.319 went to ou we practices two thousand and six. I prosecuted, 75 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.319 so you know kind of my experience in this I 76 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.400 prosecuted all types of tribes. Every murders is two thousand 77 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.000 and six in this county. I've had a part of. 78 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.960 If I've not tried the case directly of, I've prosecuted 79 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:28.240 hundreds of child the lectures. I prosecuted rape cases. I've 80 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.039 prosecuted traffic tickets. I prosecuted all handled a lot of 81 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.759 search and seizure issues in those cases. I also enjoy 82 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:39.360 hostel rooms. So here we are, and I hate power points. 83 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:40.039 So here I go. 84 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.960 So I would have put this up here. This is 85 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.280 the fourth amendment of your Bill of Rights. Okay. A 86 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.560 lot of folks may have never read this. Okay, I 87 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.280 know some attorneys who might not ever read this. I 88 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.120 kind of highlighted or I actually have bolded and I 89 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.120 underlined the important part for a while. We're here for tonight. 90 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:01.159 Also those who don't know, okay, a Constitution Article two, 91 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.240 section thirty, copy and paste of that, well, same things. 92 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:05.599 I get it. 93 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.319 I'll highly have the same stuff. So again, I'm not 94 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:12.240 good PowerPoint person. I apologize, so what is a search 95 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:17.000 me if two averages of search, one is a government 96 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.879 violation of persons reasonable expectation of privacy and I circled 97 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.240 it must come later on. That's the part of the 98 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:24.920 search we're here for. They're part of the search to 99 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.439 the other side, from the officers or government looking for property. 100 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:29.079 Not here for that. 101 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:35.360 I'm talking about the expectation of privacy talks about LPR cameras. Okay, 102 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:38.560 by going back up and look at that scene is 103 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.439 a PowerPoint. What I'm doing here. Expectation of privacy. It 104 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.079 can exist almost anywhere. Like right now, do I have 105 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.079 an expectation of privacy in this room? 106 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:48.360 No? 107 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.480 Absolutely not right, I'm here in front of one hundred 108 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.439 my closest friends here, right, no expectation of privacy. But 109 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.720 you can have it almost anywhere given the circumstances. Okay, 110 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.160 what if it's behind these curtains over here? Maybe this 111 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.399 kind of depends on the situation, so it can happen 112 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:07.560 almost anywhere. The words can happen almost anywhere. There's two 113 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.839 parts to your expectation of privacy. The first one is 114 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:16.000 a subjective standard that the individual that they expect to 115 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.519 be in a private situation Okay, do I expect it 116 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.279 like in my home? You expect me to have privacy 117 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:26.600 in your home? Right, everybody expects that. So there's some 118 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.600 subjective ideas inside your home. That's the most obvious one, right, 119 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:32.680 you know inside the home is the curtains pulled. Now 120 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.759 we can't see inside your house. Even more expectation of 121 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.360 privacy in the backyard, a privacy offense. That's less, but 122 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.920 still you give an expectation of privacy either a subjective 123 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:47.399 standard okay, and it's not or it's an end there's 124 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.680 an objective standard. That's what the reasonable person would say. 125 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:56.319 You have an expectation of privacy, okay. Examples again, the 126 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.000 biggest one inside your home, a public restaurant, you're in public. 127 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.399 Look what you expect privacy in the public ressiroom. Right 128 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.279 inside a hotel room. You expect that it's not your place, right, 129 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.279 but you expect to have an expectation of privacy in 130 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.720 that hotel room. And the main case that we attorneys 131 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.759 look at, we're looking at privacy laws. The benchmark case 132 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.519 is called Pats b. Ninth Us the nineteen sixty seven. 133 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.920 Then they had a lot of Scinston. Obviously, some examples 134 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.240 of locations are protected. We've put a few minutes. Go 135 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.240 look through this again. Number one, your home arrest. But 136 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.519 you have the most highest expectation in your house, inside 137 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:38.519 your residence. Okay, the cartilage of your house. Hertlage is 138 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.199 a fun word. Heritledge is like the place intimately connected 139 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.279 with your home. Okay, it's kind of a moving target. 140 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.680 But again, you're in your backyard. You got a privacy 141 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:49.759 defense up. You got maybe some kind of cover of 142 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.759 your back porch. That would be the coritilage of your house. Okay, 143 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.959 that's the second highest place of expectation of privacy. Third, 144 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:01.720 the minion never enclosed ruts like out buildings that you 145 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.519 have a barn on your your property, give a detached garage, those. 146 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:06.120 Kinds of things. 147 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:11.399 Maybe your workplace. So it kind of that that's a 148 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:12.680 big different, different thing. 149 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:12.920 Right. 150 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.360 If you have a solo insurance firm or something, you're 151 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.839 your office by yourself, you have you have an expectation 152 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.000 of privacy in there. But if you work on the 153 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:24.040 floor of Walmart, you don't write that, wouldn't think kip 154 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.079 excation expectation of privacy on the world of Walmart, especially 155 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:28.879 with the one hundred and thirty six camera down and Walmart. 156 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:31.920 That's not exact. That's one hundred thirty six cameras of 157 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:37.839 Walmart in our Barbesville. Not protecting exposed traits like my voice. 158 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.839 That's not protected, your general appearance, my handwriting, stuff like that, 159 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:43.040 obvious things. 160 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.240 Not protecting. 161 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:49.480 Voluntary disclosures, open fields. So this is where it is 162 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.879 tricky between the privilege and other things. Open fields is 163 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.000 like you have, you know, twenty acres you got your 164 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.680 house in the area around your house is your kurt 165 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.319 how much of that area of the bay, but you 166 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.759 know the back of ten acres open fields. No expectation 167 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.040 of privacy according to the case law of the Supreme Court, 168 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.759 public areas. I like picking on Walmart. I guess Walmart. 169 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.839 This place right here is the university. No expectation of privacy, 170 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:24.079 aerial surveillance, garbage cans put it in there information, So 171 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.480 I tell Chief michel Berry something. No expectation of privacy 172 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:37.120 also includes bank statements, phone numbers, IPA addresses, and drug doogs. Okay, now, people, 173 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.639 I've heard I did a little research here. I kind 174 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.440 of watched a few city council meetings, been on the 175 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.240 internet a little bit, and it's a scary place, of course. 176 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.240 Facebook and I there's an ideology if you will on 177 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:53.320 Facebook that you have expectation of privacy in your license plate. 178 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.200 Okay, you don't. 179 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.720 Okay, there's a lot of cases still behind that. In 180 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:02.679 nineteen eighty you guys read that and it basically says good, 181 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.960 that's an older case. Right, No court has ever given 182 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.360 any indication you have an expectation of privacy from a 183 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:10.000 license plate. 184 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:10.799 It's okay. 185 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:13.360 This is a. 186 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.919 Situation where an officer's going by ran a tag car 187 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.360 was stolen. They get in the car, they find drugs. 188 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:25.240 No education of privacy on your license plate. Nineteen ninety nine, 189 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.679 A motors has no privacy interest in her license plate. 190 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:32.559 The same thing, I won't pronounce that last name versus 191 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:38.399 city of Houston happening, but the same thing another Supreme 192 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:42.879 that's a fifth circuit case, a six circuit case, no 193 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.600 fourth union right for a computer check from of a 194 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:49.279 license plate. That's us to be fourteen thousand dollars. That's 195 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.080 a that was a federal forfeiture case or forfeiting and 196 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.320 drug dealers money just drug proceeds. That's a two thousand. 197 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.480 In two thousand and three, again sighting cats. In that case, 198 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:07.039 I cannot fass of really kind of focuses on our 199 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.279 LPR situation right now. But vehicles out in the world 200 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.519 driving around you have no expectation of privacy. Check being 201 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:16.360 in this room right now, you have no expectation of privacy. 202 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.679 If your car is driving in a public roadway, you 203 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:22.159 can't expect it to be private. Although there's things about 204 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.080 that vehicle are not going to be part of a 205 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.600 privacy concern. Is the car read does it have you know, 206 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:30.799 fancy wheels on it or ten windows on it? 207 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:32.440 Just like your license plate. 208 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.039 Same thing. You have no expectation of privacy. So I 209 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.159 was asked about do you VET program? Do you VET 210 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:45.200 program is an insurance enforcement program that started in twenty seventeen, 211 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.960 twenty eighteen, and it was designed by some older district 212 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.000 attorneys to the address the need. The issue in Oklahoma 213 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:57.399 was what're we having this next slide issue Oklahoma was 214 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.639 that over twenty five percent of the vehicles in the 215 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.480 road twenty seventeen had no insurance. That's a lot, right, 216 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.440 I mean, a core of this room's driving here of 217 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.759 no insurance in your car. That's a problem people like 218 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.279 me who have insurance, right, because what's. 219 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:10.600 Going to happen? 220 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.879 You hit me, I'm out the money rid, I'm out 221 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:14.759 my deduck Bulls State farm. It's not gonna be a 222 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.200 pretty picture, right. So we're trying to fix that problem. 223 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.159 So what we got to litership do is allow us 224 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:25.399 to use a licensed preate plate reader cameras. There's seidy 225 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.840 eight of them across Oklahoma. And if you're driving down 226 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:32.360 the road in Oak and Barswoods, no one road, you're 227 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.120 got no one road and you have no insurance, probably 228 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.240 shouldn't said that shit I was, I'm avoided now I'm 229 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:42.799 kind of probably probably cost you money now. So driving 230 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.519 down no water road you have no insurance, the home office, 231 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.000 the distri Attorney's counsel UC in the city, they're gonna 232 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.799 get a picture your license plate and the picture you're driving. 233 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:53.000 They're gonna send your letter in the mail and say 234 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.240 you need to get insurance, and you need to write 235 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.559 this second. And a lot of folks can't get insurance 236 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:00.960 because the high risk insurance. We also have a program 237 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.480 that gets you insurance. You've got a paid for obviously, 238 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.360 so as in twenty fifty to twenty five percent is 239 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.200 over twenty five percent. I don't have the exact number, 240 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.720 it was over twenty five percent, and their goal was 241 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:16.919 to get, you know, identify them, get them insurance, or 242 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:19.919 if not get insurance, suspend their driver's license because you 243 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.919 have to have insurance Oklahoma roads right for everybody's benefit. 244 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.080 And as of this morning, it's actually one hundred and 245 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.960 twenty four thousand people have been enrolled since implementation. And 246 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.759 I say didn'tet roll into twenty twenty one and the 247 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.639 first there weren't a lot of LPR companies out there 248 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.039 are willing to help us out with this because they 249 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.279 will be wanted, like seventy cameras. So it took several 250 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.519 years to get this thing rolling. It really got rolling 251 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:44.919 in twenty twenty one and one hundred and twenty three 252 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:46.840 has a just wor. One hundred and twenty four thousand 253 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:49.519 people are enrolled and of that twenty five percent of 254 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.799 the quarter of Oklahoma's not having insurance. But cut it 255 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.799 down thirty six percent. That's pretty cool. I mean, tell 256 00:12:54.840 --> 00:13:00.440 the people who drive insurance abaying the law end the 257 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.480 thing I had to talk about. Kind of Boston, there 258 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.000 is subsection g A Section seven Dash six H six 259 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:07.440 Dash one A title forty seven. 260 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:08.480 That's a mouthful, isn't it. 261 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.320 So I've heard people say that G says that the 262 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.000 only way you could have an LPRs attached to this program. 263 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.679 You don't have to read G by itself read the 264 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.639 whole thing. That's not what G means. G means that 265 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.559 in the under the UBAT program, if you using the 266 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.440 UVEAT cameras with seventy eight cameras, they can only be 267 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.960 used for the UVET program. Okay, those seventy eight cameras 268 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:37.559 on Swan drive. Who's man, I don't really messed up now, Okay, 269 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.799 strike that POX twenty three doesn't come put on the US. 270 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:43.080 Okay. 271 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.519 So that's what G stands for. G does not say 272 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.360 in that statue, which remember, g's only about title forty 273 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.440 seven to seven dash six oh six point one, but 274 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.240 the UFT program, it's not about lpr's on a greater steel. 275 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.399 All right, here's the part I get the all right, 276 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.879 why am I here? I could ever become here? But 277 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.080 the other reason I'm here is because this helps us 278 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.360 help Okay, this helps us help you. Right, I'm not here, 279 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.960 mister man fun, this is fun Thursday night, But I'm 280 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:19.039 here because these at LPRs. Get us evidence, okay, and 281 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.360 believe it or not. I don't just pick up a 282 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:24.320 phone book the prosky, I prospect feel with evidence. I 283 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.919 need evidence. And like I said right here, I have 284 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.480 never had too much evidence. Okay, I guarantee you Captain 285 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.759 Elkins when he was over c I he's over CID now, 286 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.960 he never came off and said I got all this evidence. 287 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:38.039 I said, you know what, it's too much. Daniel, Hey, 288 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.639 get back to the PD. I don't want anyone this 289 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.919 evidence stuff you got that's never had a hesit, not 290 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.039 yet maybe one day at LPR cameras and call out 291 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:51.840 a dutch plug. So also pictures, Jerry's who don't dread 292 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.919 didn't before anybody a few of you was a good 293 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.360 you kidding? No, I've got thumbs down, all right, all right, 294 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.279 so we kind of one forever. Pictures are worth a 295 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.120 thousand workers, right, I mean, if you have a picture 296 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.399 of a vehicle in a place it shouldn't be, or 297 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.320 even a picture of a murderer driving away from the 298 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.879 vehicle and in that vehicle we just killed somebody a 299 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.039 thousand words, right, that's way more to me talking in 300 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.679 front of a jury. If I could show a picture 301 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.879 of the killers suv driving from the crime scene. Big 302 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:30.159 deal pictures. Juris expect pictures. It corroborates things too. We've 303 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.879 had cases since LPR been in Marksville. We've been able 304 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.919 to corroborate things or just corroborate things because it didn't happen. 305 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.360 And that's just as important. I could forget. If somebody 306 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.120 tells you a story and say, hey, I was over 307 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.919 on so and so Street when it went down and 308 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.000 their car wasn't, it could be a problem for them, right. 309 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:52.000 Corroboration's huge in cases, and it helps find the other 310 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.399 evidence of a crime. We had a really bad murder 311 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.000 here by Adams Golf Course a few years ago, and 312 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.279 thankfully everyone in that not everyone, but most people in 313 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.080 that neighborhood had ring doorbellt cameras and other kinds of 314 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.960 abils in their house. But for that we don't saw 315 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.120 that crime. Okay, But if we'd have had an LPR 316 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.840 cameras on the we could have tracked this vehicle through Bartlesville. 317 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.679 This vehicle was going through all the neighborhoods in Martlesville 318 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.120 breaking into our cars Oliver Bartlesville all night long until 319 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.679 a guy said, try to stop these kids from doing it. 320 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.799 Got shot in the face. Okay, if we'd have had 321 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.679 an LPR camera, But if we'd have quickly been to 322 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.240 find out who that car was, tracked the car quicker 323 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.440 and probably found more evidence than may have found a gun. 324 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.279 But this is what hoping LPR cameras can do for us. 325 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.720 The DA's offs to do for you in this end, 326 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.279 Washington County. My biggest thing too is like find people 327 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.679 and find children quickly. Okay, Like I'm the DA because 328 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:51.799 I want to protect children. That's my biggest thing in 329 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.759 protecting children. And I just I just I just watched 330 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.919 the program on the Peacock Network about a documentary about 331 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.000 you know, Amber alerts are better Amber alerts. 332 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:01.759 He doesn't. 333 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.519 Amber is a girl's name. Amber is a girl Arlington, 334 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.200 Texas that was killed nineteen ninety six, and they had 335 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.640 a description of the vehicle nineteen ninety six, they couldn't 336 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.319 find finders who's found dead four days later. That's who 337 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:17.119 Amber is. If we had LPR cameras, we might find 338 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.440 Amber four days Right. It is my nightmare for one 339 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.000 of these guys to call me and say kids can 340 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:22.559 snatch out the. 341 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.160 School yard, right, my nightmare. 342 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.839 And if we have LPR, can we can find these kids? 343 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.960 If we want to stop crime, help crime, solve crime. Man, 344 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:32.400 this is where it's at. This is a big ticket 345 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:32.680 for me. 346 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:36.519 Okay, So. 347 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:42.200 Doesn't make Barlsville, Washington County safer. Absolutely, you can't say 348 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:47.319 it doesn't make it safe. Yeah, I said, air availables 349 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:51.440 a resource. People come in my office all the time concerned, concern, right, 350 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.000 their car has been stolen, something's happened to them, and 351 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.400 I want to tell them that every available resource is 352 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.480 being used to soalve that crime, to get their car 353 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.359 back to whatever we got to do to help their 354 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.599 step person. It's gonna be tough to say every resource 355 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:10.400 is being used about these cameras, right, because they're gonna 356 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.559 tell me, well, Detective White and Tulsa PD, he's got 357 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.599 two hundred and twenty two cameras. If he saw and 358 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:18.720 cries enough and rite with these things, where are you doing? 359 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:20.240 Right? 360 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.559 That's the conversation we're gonna have from the DA's office. 361 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:26.960 So that's why I get why I'm here. Organized crime. 362 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:28.599 I don't mean the mob folks. We don't have the 363 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:29.759 mobs on the Marblesville. 364 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.319 I mean more like carburdar. 365 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:33.319 Stuff like that. 366 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.279 Guys, there are people who's the that's kind of their 367 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:39.160 job is to break into our cars, right if you 368 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.079 help to identify that, like their drug yards who carry 369 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:47.680 major weight with guns and they shoot people in this town. 370 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.759 We've had drug yards. He'd make tens of thousands of 371 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.400 dollars a month, which you know, that's a good living. Now, 372 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.839 I think we're gonna tax free ten thousand dollars in months. 373 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.480 How did that feel? Ten thousand dollars in cash? I'm 374 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:02.279 not fair. That's big void money right there. And that's 375 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:04.359 the kind of drug ulas we have in Bartlesville. With 376 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:10.759 these cameras, we have identified traffic right, organize retail thefts 377 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.759 of We have a lot of this affecting some of 378 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:17.000 our stores here in Martlesville. 379 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:18.079 Our next slides. 380 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.079 This is kind of ridiculous. 381 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.559 I was told yesterday you can't even smell the perfuman 382 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:24.920 alta anymore. They give misrebul I had no idea to 383 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.480 yesterday because and that's directly because of people out of 384 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.000 tulsa sorry type of life who come up here to 385 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:37.319 Barblesville and they hit our stores. And fifty is kind 386 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.359 of a big, big of this and that's a problem 387 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.279 with Marbles School, that's a problem with Walmart. Is a 388 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.720 problem to Alta Probam lows. These are places we need 389 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.160 in this town to build an economy, for a tax space, 390 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:53.039 things like that in this town. And that's a real 391 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.279 thing is happening in this town all the time, organized 392 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.640 retail theft. There are people who every day are stealing 393 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.680 stuff from our stores on Facebook Marketplace. Every day this 394 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.240 happens and it'd be great to be identify them quickly 395 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.000 and buy these these folks. So if that's my name, 396 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.000 that's who I am, that's my phone number, that's my emails. 397 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:15.119 I talk to these forums like every year I have. 398 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.240 I'm forced to come these forums and talk, which is fine. 399 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.240 I do most of the time by teeth. 400 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:19.680 I col very. 401 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.160 But I see this all the time. People ask me 402 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:24.880 all the time, Hey, I got this one thing going on. 403 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.359 He helped me out. If I know about it, I 404 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:28.200 can try to help you out. 405 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:29.079 Email me. 406 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:31.759 Okay. I was on Facebook the other day and somebody 407 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:33.720 said that all this horrible thing had happened to them, 408 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.000 and thankfully someone said before I got to say it, 409 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:40.039 have you called law enforcement? Well, no, I've put on 410 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.440 Facebook First, that's how you saw crimes in Oklahoma? Now right, No, guys, 411 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.200 put it on Facebook. It's fantastic, but you know, or 412 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:53.559 tell them the Xeberator prize. Huh baby, But also clue 413 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.480 me in on it. Okay, I don't know about the 414 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:56.559 drug ever down the street. 415 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:57.359 Let me know. 416 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.400 I don't know about the party house given teenagers alcohol 417 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.160 and booze in marijuana. Let me know. Okay, let the 418 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.759 police department know. Facebook's good too, But I'd like to 419 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.160 know the first hand to emot. Can I get will 420 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.279 Drake have your district attorney? I'd like to a lot 421 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:11.039 of questions later on. 422 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:19.039 Thank you, thank you? 423 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:20.319 Will you appreciate it? 424 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.559 Also, I want to add that one of the cameras 425 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.039 that we have hit down was purchased by the District 426 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:26.799 Attorney's office. 427 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.240 Just apartment his effort, uh. 428 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:34.160 Gorminder of the bus. 429 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:36.640 Yeah, well I'll tell you what it does say to 430 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:38.480 sag So we'll talk about that later. 431 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:39.200 Okay. 432 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.680 Well, with that, we'll have Kristen with flock cameras come 433 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.400 forward and give him her presentation again. 434 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:52.519 At the end of this will allow for questions, h see. 435 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:22.599 Okay, Then good evening, everyone, Oh turn locked, good evening. 436 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.319 Everyone again, my name is Kristen McLoud. I'm a community 437 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.920 engagement manager with Block Safety, and as Hector mentioned, our 438 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.359 team we have the privilege of coming to communities like 439 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.519 yours and sharing information about Flock and helping answering answering 440 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.200 questions about our technology. I can't thank you enough for 441 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:46.519 the interest and civic engagement tonight. This is probably one 442 00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:50.480 of the largest crowds we've had, and we attend many 443 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:54.640 city council meetings and meetings, so we genuinely appreciate your 444 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.799 interest in this and again thank you for your time 445 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.440 this evening. I'll start a little bit of little bit 446 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.920 of history about the company itself. Block was founded back 447 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:09.319 in twenty seventeen after our CEO, Garrett Langley, actually experienced 448 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:12.240 an uptick of crime in his own neighborhood. 449 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:17.759 Impacted. He was impacted, and they. 450 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:23.279 Got frustrated and in conversations with their law enforcement, realized 451 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.240 that they just didn't have the evidence needed to help 452 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.039 solve these crimes and put a stop to what was 453 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.599 happening in their neighborhood. So Garrett, an engineer by trade, 454 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.680 had many conversations with local law enforcement and said, you know, hey, 455 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:43.759 we've provided personal doorbell footage. Like mister Drake mentioned, why 456 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.920 can't we impact and stop these crimes? 457 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:50.079 And he learned that it was really critical to have 458 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:51.640 vehicle information. 459 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.440 Over the vast majority of crimes are committed in conjunction 460 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.480 with use of a vehicle, so having a license plate number, 461 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.440 our vehicle description was really important in a really critical 462 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:10.559 investigative lead. After those conversations, Garrett set out and created 463 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.640 a company to provide law enforcement and communities with tools 464 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:19.920 to provide that critical information, those critical investigative leads. And 465 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.480 he started with our flagship product, which is a license 466 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:29.240 plate reader, which we'll focus on today. We started to 467 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.720 learn that across the country, law enforcement was really strange 468 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.279 with resources to make matters worse, it's getting really hard 469 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.759 to recruit and retain officers. 470 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:42.200 We asked a lot of. 471 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.880 Our first responders, a lot of our law enforcement. 472 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.319 They wear many hats, they solve a variety of different problems, 473 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:51.880 and the job is tough. 474 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.519 So in listening to our. 475 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.559 Law enforcement customers, we have since expanded our platform to 476 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:04.799 add even more tools and building these tools, something that 477 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:09.319 anchors us is that we make these privacy minded, and 478 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.880 we make them ethical and efficient and. 479 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.960 Also affordable for communities across. 480 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:15.920 The country to use. 481 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.079 So enter what we call a collaborative policing technology. 482 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.759 And really what this is is our tools provide law 483 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:31.759 enforcement the ability to communicate quickly and efficiently and effectively 484 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:35.680 to help solve and eliminate crime. And that means within 485 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:43.079 departments and also collaborating with regional other law enforcement agencies 486 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.359 in your region as well as within the state of Oklahoma. 487 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:51.200 And that communication is really paramount. Crime knows no bounds, 488 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.359 and so being able to provide law enforcement the ability 489 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.359 to communicate with each other on these investigative leads on 490 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.160 these crime that are impacting. 491 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.240 Communities is paramount. 492 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.720 Block as a company has over one thousand mission driven employees, 493 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.000 you have many folks who come from helping professions who 494 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.039 have dedicated their previous careers. 495 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.480 To helping communities and making them safer. And we truly 496 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.240 are anchored to our. 497 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:27.599 Mission and vision, which is to eliminate crime. We are 498 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.759 helping solve ten percent of reported crime in the nation. 499 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.279 Over five thousand communities in the nation also partner with FLOCK, 500 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.240 and we're very proud to say that we're working with 501 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:47.680 many communities. So back to the license plate reader the falcon, 502 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.000 which is our focus tonight. This is a picture of 503 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.440 the actual camera. When these are when you see them 504 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.440 out in your community. They are mounted to a pole. 505 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.799 They're about twelve to fourteen feet in the air. Solar powered, 506 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.519 so you'll see a solar panel attached topically above them. 507 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.720 There's stationary cameras and they're placed at fixed locations and 508 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.799 if they take still images of vehicles that pass by 509 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.240 the cameras and the images are focused on the rear 510 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.680 of the vehicle, and we're really again honing in on 511 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:28.160 the vehicle details, not people. It's really all about the 512 00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:32.079 vehicle details. In gathering that objective information. 513 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.039 For law enforcement, we. 514 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:40.000 Provide an integration with the National Crime Information Center, So 515 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.400 when a wanted vehicle passes by a camera in your community, 516 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:49.279 your officers are alerted within about twenty seconds. 517 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.279 Of that vehicle passing passing by the camera. 518 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.799 We're also integrated with the National Center for Missing and 519 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.839 Exploited Children. Mister Drake mentioned those Amber alerts, So if 520 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.599 vehicle is associated with an active Amber alert, if that 521 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.000 vehicle passes by one of the cameras in your community, again, 522 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:08.920 your officers are getting that information. 523 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:15.920 Really quickly, so I mentioned that Garrett had founded the 524 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:17.319 company and were very. 525 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.599 Very much invested in utilizing technology for good and having 526 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.880 an ethical product with privacy in mind. That first point 527 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.839 and how we do that is that first point is 528 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:31.640 that the data your. 529 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:33.680 City owns, all of that data. 530 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.119 Block will never sell or share that information to a 531 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.039 third party, and that is very clear in our contract 532 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.039 with the city, and that's a really important piece. 533 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.640 What that also means is that your department is within has. 534 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.640 Full control of that information and who really what other 535 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:58.000 law enforcement agencies they elect to share that information with. 536 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.720 Block automatically deletes the data at the thirty day mark. 537 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.599 So when an image reaches its thirty day birthday, if 538 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:14.000 you will, it's hard deleted and unrecoverable. And what that 539 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.759 means is it's balancing that investigative value for your officers 540 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.000 while also protecting privacy. 541 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.000 There is no national standard for data attention. 542 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.599 Of licens but reader information, so we settled on thirty 543 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.480 days because again, it provides that investigative value. And an 544 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.039 example of that would be, say a homeowner is on vacation, 545 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.559 they come back and they realize that their home burblarized, 546 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.279 but it's been two weeks, they'll be able to report 547 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.599 that crime, and then your officers will be able to 548 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:53.039 investigate and see there's critical evidence to follow up on. 549 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.200 Another situation is when a traumatic crime. 550 00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:02.119 Occurs, if a victim is assault kid and maybe isn't 551 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.480 ready to report that crime, it really provides a buffer 552 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.359 so when they are ready, when they do report that 553 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.759 crime to officers, your officers will still have the ability. 554 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:13.799 To go back thirty days. 555 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.319 But again with that balance of it's not a long 556 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:26.960 term stockpiling of information. No individual or personal data is 557 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:28.640 kept in the Flock system. 558 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.279 These are just still. 559 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.599 Images of the rear of a focused on the rear 560 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.960 of a vehicle, and that's it. Security Data security is 561 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.599 also paramount our images. 562 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.039 Our data is. 563 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.559 Encrypted end to end and stored securely on Amazon Web 564 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.039 Services cloud and we take the utmost care. 565 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.839 So even though there is no personal information contained. 566 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.519 Within the Flock system, data security is of the utmost importance. 567 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:06.160 We also really believe in enabling transparency and accountability. 568 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:11.880 So in the Flock system, when officers are investigating a crime, 569 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.319 a search reason is required, and what that does is 570 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:21.440 generate an ability for your department to audit the system 571 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.400 and ensure that it's being utilized in importance with department policy. 572 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:32.119 Block technology also reduces bias in crime solving by providing 573 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.720 that objective data. We also unique to FLOCK is we 574 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.079 offer what we call a transparency portal. 575 00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:44.559 And if your brtles FILPD has a transparency portal, it'll 576 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.960 be available on the department's web page. 577 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.799 You'll also be able to Google that and pull up 578 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.480 the transparency portal and that provides an overview. 579 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:55.200 Of what the system does. 580 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.839 It also provides information, you know, how many vehicles have 581 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.640 PSSD by the cameras, policy information so. 582 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.720 That you can see what the system is being used for. 583 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:15.440 This is an example of Tulsa PDS transparency portal. Can 584 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:21.400 you see and to finish up so we are working 585 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.039 in the state of Oklahoma. 586 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.720 These are all of the law enforcement agencies that we're 587 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:34.160 currently partnering with to solve and prevent crime. So Tulsa PD, 588 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.640 this is an example of some of the return on 589 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.039 investment that they've experienced. Within the first couple months of 590 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.319 having their FLOCK cameras at the community. 591 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.359 They reported that they were able to recover twenty. 592 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:55.319 Stolen vehicles, six stolen guns, four hundred thousand dollars in 593 00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:02.119 stolen property and had arrested homicide suspect. This is an example. 594 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.960 We rely on our customers to provide their success stories 595 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.079 to us, so this is a story that more PD 596 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.920 shared with US. Officers had responded to reports of. 597 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.319 A murder that had occurred at a local residence. 598 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.839 Investigators at the scene were able to identify a likely suspect. 599 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.759 Officers were able to enter the suspects vehicle in that 600 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.079 vehicle information into the flock system and create an alert, 601 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.559 and they found that the vehicle had been detected in 602 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.960 the area the night of the murder, so again providing 603 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:37.920 that really critical evidence. After further investigation DNA tests, the 604 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.279 suspect was arrested in charged with first degree murder. In 605 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:48.440 another serious events, this is an example of kidnapping that 606 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:54.119 LPR helped helped officers to solve. Back in twenty twenty two, 607 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.839 a man had stolen an suv with a six year 608 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.160 old inside near Kansas when. 609 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.039 The parent had gone into a convenience store. 610 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:07.200 The suspect began traveling towards Oklahoma City, Whichita PD, who's 611 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.880 a flock customer, quickly used the flock system to determine 612 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:12.679 the suspect's direction of travel. 613 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.360 Providing that critical piece of information and. 614 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.320 Whichitap PD was able to notify Oklahoma Highway Patrol. 615 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.679 They were able to then visibly locate the suspect. 616 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.119 They made an arrest, and luckily were able to safely 617 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.960 recover the child. And in these situations, in particular, time 618 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.039 is at the essence, so being able to provide information 619 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.159 to help find a needle in a haystack was really important. 620 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.960 And then lastly, this is an example of how license 621 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.760 but readers can help officers locate. 622 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:47.639 Silver alerts. 623 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:54.360 This person in O'fallen, Missouri, an elderly woman had left 624 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.079 for a doctor's appointment in the morning. 625 00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:01.280 She had returned home, her daughter beg concerned and reported 626 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:06.519 for safe An officer was able to enter in that 627 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.880 person's UH that woman's. 628 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.719 Vehicle inflammation into the FLOCK system, and it happened fifteen 629 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:18.760 minutes later. Her vehicle passed by a camera in the community, 630 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:23.039 alerting officers nearly immediately to her location, so they were 631 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.079 able to locate her and return her safely home. And 632 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.159 that concludes our portion of the presentation. Will hand it 633 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:32.599 over to Captain. 634 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:42.800 I just give me a second hand and pull of 635 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.559 our last presentation, Sorr, I dead my power point here. 636 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.199 Let's see if this is work this this so again, 637 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:02.239 thank you for being out here. 638 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:04.719 We're coming out in this evening the person thank you. 639 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.159 Will Drake also appreciate your efforts here. So we're getting 640 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.880 through this as we talk about flock. Hopefully this is 641 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.679 so far, have answered some questions as we've put out. 642 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.039 We asked a sentence to submit questions to our vpd 643 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.239 Q and a website or email address, and so I'm 644 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.559 gonna do my best to kind of group some of 645 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.519 those questions as a whole as we make it through 646 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:34.239 this very basic power point here. So with that, most 647 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.920 of which Christ has already covered, this is the cameras 648 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.599 are strategically placed for the most part on the out 649 00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:44.360 side or the perimeter of our city facing inwards. So 650 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.079 these cameras here will take are able to cross for 651 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.880 reference to a few different databases such as NCIC, the 652 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.280 Naked Big. The cameras can enable give us alerts on 653 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.320 stolen vehicles, miss the person to answer silver alerts and more. 654 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.000 Yeah, here's another picture. 655 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.719 Sure this is actually one of our cameras that have 656 00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.920 Virginia inherk but everything we do is backed by the policy, 657 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.280 state law, or constitutional rights. So with that, we have 658 00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.159 a policy that dictates exactly how we're going to utilize 659 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.519 this tool at the Marcional Police Department. The policy here 660 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.920 essentially shows that we have to utilize it for legitimate 661 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.519 law enforcement purposes and that. 662 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:26.880 It's not going to be. 663 00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:31.000 Open to public record requests. The policy goes onto more 664 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.119 to show who we're going to get access to. So 665 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.760 currently there's seventy six more personnel with in the Marshall 666 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.239 Police Department and we have this opened up to about 667 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.480 nine individuals. Those individuals are gonna be our patrol lieutenants, 668 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:47.159 our cide lieutenants, and our dispatch supervisors. The policy also 669 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.159 leaves us some room to allow some key personnel to 670 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.960 have access of One example of that, we have a 671 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.159 gentleman on a day shift dispatch. He's been with us 672 00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.000 for more than thirty years. He currently controls the ole 673 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.679 it's access, which is how we run driver's license and 674 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.719 tag status to the state of Oklahoma. And plus he's 675 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.400 kind of an IT guy, so it would make sense 676 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.360 that we utilize him and his skills. Also the policy, 677 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.719 we'll talk about the training on all officers and civilian 678 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.679 personnel that's going to utilize this tool has to attend 679 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:26.960 FLOG training. We're also want to go into conduct monthly 680 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.639 audits to see how this tool is being utilized. Last, 681 00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.960 last is reporting. You know, any misuse you know that 682 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.360 will be reported and investigated. There's a lot of tools 683 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.079 out there that we currently have, such as our Oulitz 684 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.639 terminals and our police cars. State law and policy dictates 685 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.119 just the same as this on how officers will use 686 00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:53.400 utilize that equipment, and same thing applies if if there's 687 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.760 misuse there, we look into it right away. Data sharing 688 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.559 this is a big one here. Blog mentioned that there's 689 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.920 over five that flocks in over five thousand communities. A 690 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:08.679 lot of the questions submitted talked about who is sharing 691 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.119 or who can see this data. Well, we're sharing currently 692 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.960 about one hundred eleven networks out of that five thousand, 693 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.760 and those one hundred eleven networks you can actually see 694 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.320 on our transparency portal on who we're sharing with and 695 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.599 that sharing could change from day to day to kind 696 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.719 of depends on our investigated needs. And I'll talk more 697 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.480 about that here in a second. So, Okay, this is 698 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.679 a map right now of the current cameras. There's current 699 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.519 We are contracted for ten cameras that we had a 700 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.559 question on the cost of those cameras, who are three 701 00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.760 thousand dollars each annually. 702 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.639 We have nine of the ten cameras in. 703 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.679 And as you can see, these are strategically placed again 704 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.000 on the perimeter of our city looking inwards. This allows 705 00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.840 our officers to have time to make it to that 706 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:02.079 alert for a stolen vehicle or amber or silver alert. 707 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.159 You know, it gives us moment, you know, a chance 708 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.679 to get there as well as let's just know about 709 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.599 criminal elements coming into our community. Currently, we have to 710 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.320 move a few of these cameras. We were requested to 711 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.360 do so by the state, so you will see a 712 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:21.239 couple of these spots kind of changed to more still 713 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.960 strategic locations, but not as far out as we originally 714 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.599 planned for them. So that information we widely share. There's 715 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.519 no secret about where we have these cameras and where 716 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:34.039 they're going to go. 717 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.119 So this is the network sharing. This is kind of 718 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.480 a map Voklahoma. 719 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:38.679 Here. 720 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.199 You see that yellow circle up there as Bartizilla, and 721 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.400 you can see all the green circles represent networks that 722 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.719 we are sharing with the purple represents networks that we're 723 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:55.719 not sharing with. Sharing is kind of a little bit 724 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.280 of a deep topic on kind of how sharing happens. 725 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:03.159 If our sharing preferences matches another agency's sharing preferences, well, 726 00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.360 and we're automatically going to start sharing if we see 727 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.159 a reason. 728 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.760 To query a system. 729 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:10.760 That excuse me. 730 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.400 So essentially, if we find that a vehicle or suspect 731 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.519 may go to a community that we're not sharing with, 732 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:24.000 we're able to request share to those communities. And from 733 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.280 my experience with work on law enforcement, we're here to 734 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:31.400 help one another and typically that that access would be granted. 735 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:37.079 Therefore the networks would would be shared. So this is 736 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.239 an example. This is actually my truck here that I ran. 737 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.119 Christy kind of showed that earlier, so we don't want 738 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:44.880 to spend too much time on it. But it's a 739 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.960 single vehicle, a single image of the rare vehicle as 740 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:49.559 it passes. 741 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.119 Let's say that this case was of interest of some 742 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:54.599 sort of crime, which it is not. 743 00:41:56.039 --> 00:42:00.719 The detective or an officer can download this analytical report here. 744 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.719 Again everything's documented. Das love this kind of stuff. It, 745 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.760 you know, it shows the officer that ran in the 746 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.239 reason it was ran I have community form there. We 747 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.400 would have a case in the hard and relive and 748 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:20.159 just day time, stamp, location and just other information, and 749 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.239 so that would be added to the case checket if 750 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:22.960 it was relevant. 751 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.199 It wasn't relevant. 752 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.400 Again thirty days later, it's being deleted. So Transparency Portal again, 753 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.599 there's a lot of questions that the citizens submitted that 754 00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.960 can be answered here. You know, does this capture faith? 755 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:35.920 You know it does not. 756 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.559 You can see that they're facial recognition or excuse me, 757 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.960 how many cameras do we have? It shows that AP 758 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.800 currently shows nine, but we will have ten. Our data 759 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.559 attention periods thirty days. Here on the bottom right side 760 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.400 it shows external organizations with access and we're sharing with. 761 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.480 About one hundred and eleven. So we're gonna go over 762 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:55.679 to the. 763 00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.880 Next sock slide here that actually goes to show more 764 00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.920 of those lists of citizens can access this just via 765 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.280 URL or Google Search or from the city's website and 766 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.679 be able to see at that moment in time who 767 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:11.639 we're sharing with. Another great feature about the Transparency Portal 768 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.800 is we have this public search audit. You're able to 769 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.920 download an Excel sheet that is slightly encrypted on the 770 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.719 searches that we've done in the last thirty days. The 771 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.920 reason it's encrypted is it really doesn't show that officer 772 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.800 that random search or the tag number that we search. 773 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.800 It was an active investigation. That would be kind of 774 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.039 tipping our hands a little too much there. So we're 775 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:36.800 doing as much as we can to kind of meet 776 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.920 the public and where they're at and with how we're 777 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:44.000 utilizing this tool. So that's available at anyone's leisure. 778 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:46.880 This is the URL. 779 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.079 I can leave that up there if anybody likes take 780 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.920 a picture of that to make sure that they find 781 00:43:52.199 --> 00:44:04.360 this transparency portal. We're good, all right. So data storage, 782 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.440 we kind of talked about that. Essentially, you'll hear see 783 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:08.159 just compliance. 784 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:09.000 He just compliance. 785 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.920 The FBI, you know, they have the Criminal Justice Information 786 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.840 Service Division. This is essentially the gurus that are able 787 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.880 to investigate in everything with ad digital signature. They have 788 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.639 set out standards for how government shares data back and 789 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:26.119 forth and so that's seed just compliant. 790 00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:30.960 So in law enforcement, we've been sharing data via cloud via. 791 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.519 Servers for many decades. The two main ones that come 792 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.960 to mind is olids, which I was able to do 793 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.639 a little research with the olods. They're based out of 794 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:42.519 Oklahoma City. 795 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.960 It's where their servers are at with more than ten. 796 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.480 Thousand terminals and access in. 797 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.440 The state of Oklahoma to OLDS all this. 798 00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:53.079 Information into your vehicle information drivers lize the status of WARDS. 799 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.159 All that is you know, being shared via cloud based 800 00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.159 or servers through OLDS. And the next would be n 801 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:03.039 CiCe Halloway in Washington, DC's where their servers are at. 802 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.760 And again our officers are able to access this through 803 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:11.199 their vehicles, you know, electronically. So with what FLOCK is 804 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.480 doing and how we're accessing that information is nothing new 805 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.199 to us. We currently have several other tools. So we 806 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.159 have a record management system. This is where we type 807 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.800 our police reports at you know, has every you know, 808 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.039 all the people we come in contact with, you know, 809 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:31.159 their personal information. All that access via the cloud as well. 810 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.199 Our body cans with AXON that's via the cloud. So 811 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.679 this was not hard for us to accept how we 812 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.519 would be dealing with accessing FLOCKSTAD. 813 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.280 So local impact we want to talk a little bites. 814 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.760 Chief along with that. 815 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:55.360 Also when it comes to data and the information that 816 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.719 we gain through personal information information, uh, that information is 817 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.559 put acting not only by those programs, but it's protected 818 00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.719 by law as well. If an officer misuses that program 819 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.360 for any reason, he can be arrest and he can 820 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:11.000 be charged with the crime, he can go to prison 821 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.719 and loses his career. We have audits in place where 822 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.840 we can actually find out what officers abusing the system 823 00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.800 and we can hold them accountable. Uh that those are 824 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.159 check check boxes that we have in everything we do 825 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:27.719 in law enforcement. We always have ways to trace back 826 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.000 what work we're doing and to know who's doing that 827 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.800 work and try to make sure that we're doing the 828 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.119 best job we can and protecting the information the best 829 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:39.559 we can. So when people get concerned about where the 830 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.039 information is stored, this is. 831 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.679 Kind of like a. 832 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.800 Different credit culture. 833 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.079 Instance, if you have a credit card and it gets compromised, 834 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.159 they can't guarantee it's not gonna be compromised. 835 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.320 When you get the credit card, what do you do? 836 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.159 You reported, and then they take action they shut down 837 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.199 a credit card. You can give you a new credit 838 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.400 card for where you're knowing you're spending that again too, 839 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:06.599 So it's it's what you trust and who you trust 840 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.000 with your information. I think everybody in this room is 841 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.320 probably give them their information for a lot of different reasons. 842 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.360 I can assure you probably when you leave this place tonight, 843 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:20.719 Google will tell you about flock more than likely because 844 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.760 they've been listening to this presentation, right, So just to 845 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.000 keep that in mind. So we you know, it's been 846 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.000 said that we'd like to use good stories to prove 847 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.559 why we need this system. 848 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.400 Where would be silly not to write why would we. 849 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.199 Tell you, oh, this is a sucky system when it's 850 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:43.960 actually saving lives. So with that, these are a couple 851 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.440 of murder suspects Bortlesville murder suspects. 852 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.480 Young man on the left. Young man on the left. 853 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.880 Killed another subject, his friend actually one of his best friends, 854 00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.679 and day Randa Randa, Kansas. We didn't have block systems 855 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.280 at this time, but we called our representative that was 856 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:04.960 trying to sell. 857 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.039 Us the system and. 858 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.159 Asked him if he could put that in the system. 859 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.400 It's a network and you have to be pulled the 860 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.559 network to utilize it, so obviously he was trying to 861 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.840 sell it to us, right, So he put this information 862 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.840 in the system. 863 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.519 We had the young man's vehicle information tag. 864 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.440 Number from the system already, so we input it in 865 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.519 and the cameras hit Coffeeville, Can, Kansas. 866 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.320 On a camera system. Kaffin Vill PDA went out and 867 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.719 looking for this vehicle the by the camera that had hit. 868 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:36.840 Of course I didn't find it, but then they re 869 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.360 so after some investigative leads found out he had a 870 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.039 relative in Kansas in Coffeeville, went to that residence, found 871 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.480 a suspect, and we took him into custody. That's how 872 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:49.920 it's supposed to work, investigative leads. This is just a 873 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.480 tool that we're using to further crimes and furtherer cases 874 00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.760 the other centers. The young man murdered another man in 875 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.320 bartlsool Alhoma, pretty close to the same area. 876 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.039 A year into Wichita, Kansas. Same thing. 877 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:09.679 We put the vehicle description of his into the system 878 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.000 and it hid in Wichita, Kansas. Got a relative to 879 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.480 Wichital We located him as the reld of his house, 880 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:16.639 took him into custody. 881 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.079 Those are two homicide suspects from Botswil, Oklahoma. We had 882 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.079 no idea where they were at, and we would have 883 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.000 had to spend a lot of time looking for him 884 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:25.079 without this system. 885 00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:26.679 We had. 886 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.440 The other evidence was evidence of the crime. This just 887 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.239 tells us where he was the last time. When we're 888 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:34.039 trying to find him. 889 00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.599 Right, it's not said. This doesn't prove that he murdered 890 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.360 the guys. Neither one of these proved that they murdered 891 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:40.159 the subjects. 892 00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.400 But it does prove where he's at at a certain 893 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.199 setting time when he passed that camera. Gives us an idea, 894 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.840 well where to start looking for him. Major tool, major tool. 895 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.519 Talk about this. This was just recent December tenth. 896 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.360 Well, so if you may be able to read that 897 00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.679 un though it's pretty small small print, but on December tenth, 898 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.519 a man in his stepdaughter, a Mexican immigrant, and the 899 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.960 step daughter went We're supposed to be going to coffee, 900 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.440 Old Kansas to purchase meat at the market. Momb called, 901 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.039 they didn't turn return home. Home called to see where 902 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.280 they were at. They didn't answer the cell phones. She 903 00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:21.880 got worried. She called law enforcement. We responded to her call. 904 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:26.159 We peened the phones of both of these people. We 905 00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.559 didn't get a pin on them. They PINI is trying 906 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.800 to locate it. Didn't get a located on which missed. 907 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.000 Those phones were turned off. Still concerned about it, we 908 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:41.079 entered this the next morning. This mom's vehicle was entered 909 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.880 into the system and it hit in the Laredo Texas. 910 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.440 What's in the Laratea, Texas people. 911 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:48.639 US boarder. 912 00:50:50.960 --> 00:51:02.960 Sixteen year old child with stepdad. We notify Larta, Texas 913 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.679 and the Border Patrol. They began looking for this young 914 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.719 lady and this man. This vehicle was found at the 915 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.880 bus stop, our bus depot in Larta, Texas. The stepdad 916 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.519 was trying to sell that vehicle to get money for 917 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:23.280 tickets to Mexico. At that point, Laureata Police Department found 918 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:26.440 out that this younger lady is sixteen, but when she 919 00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.400 was fifteen, she was right by her stepdad that she 920 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.320 was with at this time, and she's pregnant with an 921 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:33.239 unborn child. 922 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.079 So a couple of things here and then visits started 923 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:39.519 the case. 924 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.679 You know, that morning at ten thirty nine they did 925 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.039 the search to flock showed that the vehicle had pass 926 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.000 cameras in Laredo at ten twelve and at one o 927 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.519 three pm victim and suspect were located. So it was 928 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:55.400 a fast result, fast. 929 00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.360 Result, very fast result. So now you have the child, 930 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.960 a sixteen year old child and an unborn infant that's 931 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:05.079 been saved by this system. A couple of months ago 932 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.800 with go to the departments, we had a young mom 933 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.199 bringing three year old child out, put him in the 934 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:11.960 back seat of her car, go around and get in 935 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.039 the car and drive off. And her ex boyfriend came 936 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.679 out of the bushes and camel gear stole that child 937 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.320 out of the back seat, jumped in his mom's car. 938 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.800 Mon was a getaway driver and they took off. 939 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.199 Less than an hour later. After putting this the mob's vehicle. 940 00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.599 Description in the flock system, the whole bloom Hargway troll 941 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.960 stopped that vehicle by Claire Moore and recovered that child. 942 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.159 Success stories. What is the price of the life. What 943 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.480 is the price of a child? What will you give 944 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:43.440 up to save a child? 945 00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:45.400 My last question on that. 946 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.079 So I'm very fashionate about that because I believe in 947 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.519 the system. My commands knife is. I got over one 948 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.320 hundred and sixty years of service and we spend every 949 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.559 day trying to serve this community and keep it safe. 950 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.079 Trust our judgment is what I'm. 951 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.039 Yeah. So again, we have ten cameras about five hundred 952 00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.880 miles the roadway. The cameras again just capture a moment 953 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:13.360 of time. We're the vehicle just investigative tool. It gives 954 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.960 us a place to start. We actually had kind of 955 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:18.480 telling ourselves a little bit. We had a stolen vehicle 956 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:24.079 from Kansas City enter our jurisdiction three separate times that 957 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.559 we weren't able to locate, so you know that again, 958 00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.519 that's just one snapshot of where that vehicle was at 959 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.880 at one moment of time, so it's not continual, it's 960 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.679 not tracking, it's just a starting point. So that really 961 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:43.119 concludes our presentation. Here are mister White. Let exit out 962 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.199 of this and it is loaded up for him. 963 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.519 Thank you for having me here in your nice community. 964 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:54.760 Believe it or not, my. 965 00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.320 Really appreciate the help that we've gotten from Martlesville Police 966 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:04.480 Department here. And your police station here is top notch, 967 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.079 so you guys have figured that out. You have a 968 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.800 really nice station. Your police department is really a high 969 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.760 caliber of people, so you're really lucky here in this community. 970 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.079 I'm going to give you a glimpse into a couple 971 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.360 of homicides, a small glimpse, and you're going to see 972 00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.800 the value in the importance of the technology that exists, 973 00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:29.760 and I'm not going to get it. 974 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.880 I did take the liberty. 975 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:33.400 I know you told me not to, but I did 976 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.159 add a little bit just to kind of remind people 977 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.880 here as to the technology that everybody in this room 978 00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:41.599 has had. 979 00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.519 Moments in your life where you're like, boy, I don't 980 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.559 know about that. That technology scares me a little bit. 981 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:50.440 But in reality, it's the technology that people have grown 982 00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.119 to become accustomed to called the CSI effect. When you 983 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.760 guys are like, well, where's that DNA. Well, DNA is 984 00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.320 to scare you, believe it or not, when it first 985 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.559 came out. I can promise you had scared everybody in 986 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.880 the world. All technology scares people when it first comes out. 987 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.880 That's our homicide unit right there, really good looking munch 988 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.760 all right, all right, So I wanted to give you 989 00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.400 some statistical data just for respect to Tulsa, since we're 990 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.199 neighbors and we're really close to one another, and that 991 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.119 since twenty sixteen, we've had five hundred and ninety homicides 992 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:29.079 in the city of Tulsa. 993 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:34.199 Five hundred and ninety. We've solved five hundred and. 994 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.559 Sixty one of those, so we have twenty nine cases 995 00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.639 that are actually open, which is extraordinary. That's a ninety 996 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:45.159 five plus percent success rate clearance rate with respect to homicides. 997 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:46.719 And thank you for the thumbs up. I see that 998 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:47.400 I notice it. 999 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.639 That's one of the best in the I don't know 1000 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.920 if another agency that has that many with that kind 1001 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.360 of a clearance rate. So if you watch us on 1002 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.880 TV a lot, you know why. It's because teamwork makes 1003 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.159 the dream work. And also be because of this camera 1004 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.599 system that they speak of. And that's the examples that. 1005 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:04.239 I'm going to give you. 1006 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.039 Last year, we solved every one. 1007 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:08.559 Of the fifty. 1008 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.960 It was wrong in the media. The media was my 1009 00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.800 boss was incorrect. That's not the first time we've solved 1010 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.079 one hundred percent of our cases since nineteen seventy nine. Actually, 1011 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.719 in twenty sixteen, we had a record year of homicides 1012 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.239 in the city of Tulsa, more than we have ever had, 1013 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:26.400 which was eighty two. 1014 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.119 And we solved every one of those. He was wrong, 1015 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:30.519 so he wasn't with us then. 1016 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:32.960 I was there. 1017 00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.159 Trust me, I'm aged because of it. 1018 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.719 Since nineteen sixty three, we've roughly had actually we've had 1019 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.679 more than twenty seventy eighty one. We've actually had twenty 1020 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.559 eight hundred plus homicides in the city of Tulsa since 1021 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.440 nineteen sixty three, and out of those, we've solved eighty 1022 00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:51.760 seven percent, which also is extraordinary when you consider the 1023 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:57.519 national average is roughly fifty percent. OK So real quick, 1024 00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.800 I wanted to just kind of the evolution of DNA, 1025 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.119 just to give you an idea. This is back when 1026 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:05.320 it started, and we remember the OJ Simpson case because 1027 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:09.199 that's the first time that we really got a peak 1028 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.079 at what that's all about. And I work in this business, 1029 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:13.800 and I'll tell you right now, I'm not an expert 1030 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.280 at DNA. That's for the scientist, but I wanted to 1031 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:19.000 remind you about those times. 1032 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.880 And DNA has actually advanced to the point now. 1033 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:26.039 To the level where from nine to eleven actually where 1034 00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.320 we're able to identify these victims. And we've gotten to 1035 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.360 the point that if we find somebody's DNA to scene, 1036 00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.079 which once again doesn't mean that they've committed. 1037 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.159 The crime, it just means that their DNA was there 1038 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:35.800 for a reason. 1039 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.400 And because of that, if we can find that, we 1040 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.760 can actually get a picture of what that person looks like. 1041 00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.599 That's how far advanced that we've gotten in the world. 1042 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.360 This is the advances that are happening. We should embrace 1043 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.760 that these advances that happen. And then, of course fansy 1044 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:52.960 genealogy and because of that, we've been able to solve 1045 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.079 cases like the Golden State killer and most recently, the 1046 00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.599 Idaho killer and. 1047 00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.719 The Long Island serial killer. And that's all that. 1048 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.440 From that, we can look at your pictures on a 1049 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.000 bank robbery and we can tell who you are based 1050 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:07.320 on that. 1051 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.639 We run it through and it tells us the social 1052 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.800 media databases that you have. This isn't secret stuff. This 1053 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:14.280 stuff's been out there for a long time. 1054 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.920 Don't if with cats that's on Netflix. That's how that 1055 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:21.159 they knew who that guy was. There is there the 1056 00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.320 most recently, this is the guy that was killed in 1057 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.320 New York City, the guy that worked for the insurance company. 1058 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.119 How do you think they caught that guy? 1059 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.400 They caught that guy from facial recognition. 1060 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:31.840 How do they catch it? 1061 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.480 Because of surveillance cameras. It's what's going on. They're everywhere, 1062 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.199 this program that they're talking about here. I think what 1063 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.119 makes people nervous is because the cops are purchasing or 1064 00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.000 the cities are purchasing these If they were not the 1065 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:47.519 only ones purchasing them, communities or the neighborhood watch programs 1066 00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:53.239 and neighborhoods are purchasing these cameras. Also that's how they 1067 00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:54.840 were able to track this guy down. All right, So 1068 00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.920 let's talk Flock. There's forty two states throughout this country 1069 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:02.800 that are actually legalizing this technology. 1070 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:04.639 And this is where I found. I may be wrong, Flock, 1071 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.880 and I'm sorry, but that's what I found on the internet. 1072 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.199 Probably close to five thousand communities and over seven hundred 1073 00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:15.320 thousand crimes each year is solved by this camera system. 1074 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:16.679 It's amazing. 1075 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:19.559 It's the best thing that's happened in my career. And 1076 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.159 I've been a cop for twenty six years. I can't 1077 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:23.760 believe how good this system is. 1078 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:25.800 This is a go to for us. 1079 00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:27.840 So as far as this is just a. 1080 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.480 Community, and this is in South Bend, Indiana, just to 1081 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.000 kind of show you the numbers there where it helped. 1082 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:34.280 This is just an old picture. 1083 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.760 We have tank readers. These things have been going on 1084 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.960 forever Indian communities in city of Tulsa. If you have 1085 00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:43.280 a police car that's behind you, they just took a 1086 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.199 picture of your tech. They just took a picture of it. 1087 00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.719 But these things have been rolling through your apartment complexes 1088 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:52.719 in neighborhoods for years. Who's doing that. It's the REPO men. 1089 00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.360 So we could call them a say run this tag 1090 00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.559 through there. But now police cars are able to do this, 1091 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.159 and we're able to run attack there. I'm going to 1092 01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:04.199 show you an example here real quick. That's an example 1093 01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:05.639 in Oklahoma City, but I'm going to show. 1094 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:06.960 You a real one. And then in this case, this 1095 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.079 guy was a murderer that I just said, hey, run 1096 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:10.079 that through there, and we were able to. 1097 01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:11.800 Tell that he was in Oklahoma City, which helps us 1098 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:13.800 focus our attention down there. 1099 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.800 So here's the first case example. And this is a case. 1100 01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.679 These case I've blocked down a couple of things. These 1101 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:22.840 are both my cases. 1102 01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:26.079 These are cases that he said, Hey, I'm but a 1103 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:27.960 couple of case examples, so I thought i'd give you some. 1104 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.719 This is how it works, okay, and this is the 1105 01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:36.199 value of these type of the system. Just to give 1106 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.079 you the basics of this. 1107 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.679 Dozens of gunshots fired into an airbnb close to downtown dozens. Okay, 1108 01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:48.039 there's no witnesses, there's no surveillance cameras there, there is 1109 01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.119 nothing to work with other than the fact that we've 1110 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.679 got two calimbers, which to us that looks to us 1111 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:55.760 that we've got at least. 1112 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.079 Two shooters, probably two shooters okay. 1113 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.920 And we got no why witnesses, we've got no vehicle information, 1114 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:04.159 we've got no surveillance cameras in the area, which is 1115 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:06.679 you know, it's one of my cases, so I'm used 1116 01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:06.880 to this. 1117 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:07.840 That happens a lot. 1118 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.480 But in this case, we have zero, not even doorbell 1119 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.559 cameras in the immediate vicinity of where this thing happened. 1120 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:14.039 Nothing. 1121 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:16.480 This is the house. 1122 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.280 All of those yellow markers that you see there are 1123 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.320 basically showing where cartridge casings are that we're shot into the. 1124 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:23.960 Front of this house. 1125 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:26.719 What's important about that is is that based on the 1126 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.719 location where you see those, that tells me something because 1127 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:31.599 a lot of these cases, Oh and you can't take. 1128 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.760 Pictures of any of this, please, I'm sorry. I forgot 1129 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:35.320 to mention that. 1130 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:38.920 So these yellow markers that you see out here, this 1131 01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.639 actually shows you all of the different spots where the 1132 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:42.599 cartridge casings are. 1133 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.000 Tells me that the person's not in a vehicle when. 1134 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.760 They're shooting, they're out on the foot likely, Plus nobody 1135 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:49.639 heard anything leave the scene in a hurry. 1136 01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.320 There was a twelve year old boy that was seated 1137 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:55.079 out in front. 1138 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.079 Of this that was murdered. 1139 01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.760 Twelve years old okay, and when we not get. 1140 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.119 There, we have really nothing to work with the technology 1141 01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.320 that we have here. This is another example of the 1142 01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:07.840 technology just for you to see where your taxpayer lene 1143 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.559 it goes. And this is called a Pharaoh machine, which 1144 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.719 is high tech. And one of these days before in 1145 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:16.760 the next ten years, I'm almost going to promise you 1146 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:18.920 that you'll sit on a jury and you'll be able 1147 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:21.840 to wear virtual reality and goggles and you'll be able 1148 01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:23.639 to walk through the crime scene as if you were there. 1149 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.519 You won't be able to smell things, but you'll be 1150 01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:29.039 able to be as if you're there. And what that 1151 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.599 tells us is that tells us the trajectory of the 1152 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:33.679 rounds that go into a house. And they can do 1153 01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.239 that in fifteen minutes. Look at all the man errors 1154 01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:40.679 that that saves you as the taxpayer. What we found 1155 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:42.800 when we started going out there and we started doing 1156 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.239 a canvas of the area, because that's what we do. 1157 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.519 We start knocking on doors. 1158 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.880 We started seeing once we were finding doorbell cameras and 1159 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:51.599 we were starting to find this camera and then a 1160 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.000 camera on a business is. 1161 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:54.360 We saw two individuals. 1162 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.920 We couldn't tell much about them, but we see two 1163 01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.559 individuals walking in the towards where the crime happened. 1164 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.760 And then after this thing happens, then we see them 1165 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:04.480 running and this is the. 1166 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:05.440 Track that they took. 1167 01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:08.639 We get down to that area where you see it 1168 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.880 end at seventeenth Street. When we get to seventeenth Street, 1169 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.719 the people that had cameras really nice cameras there. 1170 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:15.719 This is all we have. 1171 01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:17.440 What kind of car is that? 1172 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:18.000 Anybody? 1173 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:19.719 That's right? 1174 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.280 It's a Nissan Ultima and it's in a year range likely, 1175 01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.400 But that's all we have. And we were lucky enough to. 1176 01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:28.519 Have a car that happened to pass by that with 1177 01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:30.679 their lights on, which tells us that it's a blue 1178 01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:31.719 color of some sort. 1179 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.559 Okay, we don't we're looking for a blue Ultima. So 1180 01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:35.239 what do we do with that? 1181 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.519 We start looking at the cameras to see if that 1182 01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.480 when that vehicle leaves, we start looking for cameras that 1183 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:42.239 are located throughout that neighborhood to try to. 1184 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:43.199 Find where it leaves too. 1185 01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.840 What we see is it comes out onto Cherry Street, 1186 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:49.039 which is fifteenth Street, and we can tell it's missing 1187 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:50.880 likely a front hubcap. 1188 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.400 Okay, So what we can do then is we can search. 1189 01:03:54.280 --> 01:04:00.719 Blue Nissan ultimas in flock, and we find one who 1190 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.320 happened to be up in Awasso, Okay, And based on. 1191 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:06.239 That, then we run the tag, we find out who 1192 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:08.480 that is. Then we start doing research on that individual. 1193 01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.119 When we do research on that individual, then we have enough. 1194 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:14.960 Now because this flock system like that, that's just a lead. 1195 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.119 We can't go out and make an arrest on this guy. 1196 01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:19.320 We don't even know who's in that car, but it 1197 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.320 gives us a lead and something to work with. And 1198 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.320 remember we have nothing to work with on this case originally. 1199 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.440 But this is how powerful the system's. 1200 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:28.199 Making this happen. 1201 01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.519 This is making things happen. We can do that. 1202 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.199 When we were able to do that, we were able 1203 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:34.880 to write a search more on this guy's well no, 1204 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:36.039 actually we're not there yet. 1205 01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:37.920 So from there, then we run it through our license 1206 01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:38.440 plate reader. 1207 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.280 When we do that, this is what we get. 1208 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:42.960 We knew we had a police officer that was behind 1209 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:47.280 his car a stone's throw that basically probably four houses 1210 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:48.079 away from where. 1211 01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.639 The murder happened. And this was two hours before the 1212 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.320 murder happened. Why is he over there because they're scoping 1213 01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.519 it out? Is what's up? 1214 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:54.559 Likely? 1215 01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:54.920 Okay? 1216 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:57.599 Not only that you see a CBS sign there, and 1217 01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:00.679 that CBS sign that just gave us another spot to 1218 01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:02.840 go look for video because they pulled into that parking 1219 01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.599 lot of the CBS pharmacy. They didn't get out of 1220 01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:07.719 the car, but it still gives us a better shot 1221 01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:13.360 of that car characteristics to it. Then from there, like 1222 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.719 I said, the investigative leads that's what we're getting. This 1223 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:22.480 isn't probable cause to make an arrest. This allows us 1224 01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.480 to get search ons maybe to check phone records, and 1225 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.559 that's what we're doing in this particular case. This is 1226 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.840 just basically a little piece of the puzzle. This is 1227 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:33.480 what we're talking about, a piece of the puzzle. And 1228 01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:36.800 not only that they mentioned this, this is another big deal. 1229 01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:39.800 Not only does this prove people's guilt later on down 1230 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:44.199 the line, it actually is exculpatory evidence, which means in translation, 1231 01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:49.440 it also tells it actually exonerates people. It proves people's 1232 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.559 innocent innocence just as much as it proves people's guilt. 1233 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:57.519 That's paramount in these type of cases, because trust me, 1234 01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:59.000 things aren't always what they appear. 1235 01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:00.840 And I've seen people it's like, man, this guy's had 1236 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:01.840 to have done this or something. 1237 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:03.440 We're all. 1238 01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:07.880 You're right, we are. Yeah, we're going to sit until 1239 01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:08.480 proven guilty. 1240 01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:08.960 You're correct. 1241 01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:11.599 That's why we want. We want to actually prove people's 1242 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:12.360 innocence as well. 1243 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:14.440 Hey, we're the cops. 1244 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:16.519 Just don't think that we're out just to arrest people. 1245 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:19.320 We're out to find the truth. In addition to that, 1246 01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.599 we still have it. So, like I said, we still 1247 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:23.400 have a duty to cooperate, and I saw that in 1248 01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:28.119 a presentation earlier, and that is based on maybe DNA fingerprints, 1249 01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:29.079 phone evidence, et cetera. 1250 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:30.000 But let's go further. 1251 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:31.880 So then what we're able to do is we were 1252 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.079 able to do some phone data based on this case 1253 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:35.159 of the guy that owned the car. 1254 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.280 We're able to get a search more for that. We 1255 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:39.199 get the data back and then basically, what does that 1256 01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:42.239 tell us. It doesn't tell us that he's in the car, 1257 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.239 but it tells us that his phone is in the 1258 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.639 front seat of that car sitting on seventeenth Street that 1259 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.400 you saw that Nissan Ultimate sitting there. His phone's there. 1260 01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:55.159 That gives us more to work with. Then we're able 1261 01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:56.480 to do with that phone data is we're able to 1262 01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.519 look even further. And when we look even further, what. 1263 01:06:59.559 --> 01:06:59.840 Are we like? 1264 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.480 We love quick trips in Tulsa. We love them, and 1265 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:04.800 you love them here too, because they're great. But they 1266 01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:06.719 also have great video, and we're able to see what 1267 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.119 quick trips are in the area. And sure enough, there's 1268 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.079 the guy that has that phone standing in a quick 1269 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.920 trip based on the phone records from the same phone 1270 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.400 number thirty eight minutes before this murder. Now I know 1271 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:21.519 there's three people involved. I've told you too, But let 1272 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:24.679 me tell you why I know there's three. We've got 1273 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.440 two people that we're firing based on the amount of. 1274 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:30.159 I've never seen it. In all the years that I've 1275 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.840 been doing this, I've never seen this shooting. I just 1276 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:34.360 don't see that. 1277 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.239 But so we've got probably two shooters. And the reason 1278 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.480 why I know there's three people is because while the 1279 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:42.559 other two guys are coming back to the car, because 1280 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.840 we see a little reflection of him, because the guy 1281 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.360 that's sitting in the driver's seat hit the brakes about 1282 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:50.280 a minute before they arrive. So now I know there's 1283 01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.960 at least three. Well happen happens. We have three people here, 1284 01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:58.360 and when you look here, we're able to identify him. 1285 01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.280 We also find additional stuff on that shows them wearing 1286 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:05.280 the same things, or one of them anyway, as you 1287 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.400 can see there. All of this stuff takes some mountain 1288 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.639 of time to even do this, but this has given 1289 01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.400 us more than what we had at the beginning. We 1290 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.760 had nothing, and then we're able to track back that 1291 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.960 phone down and find other locations and matching. 1292 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:19.760 Up where these guys lived and where who these guys are. 1293 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:21.840 That's all going to add to the big pile of 1294 01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:29.000 evidence that the the DA here wants later on. And 1295 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.079 that's what we had off of the video that's in 1296 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:33.960 the neighborhood. You see how good that is. Isn't that great? 1297 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:39.119 You can't tell nothing from that, But because we had 1298 01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:40.800 the quick trip video, we know who we need to 1299 01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.199 start looking at. And when we did look at those guys, 1300 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:45.760 guess what, those two guys happened to turn their phones 1301 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.560 off about the same time in the timeframe and when 1302 01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:52.319 the murder happened. That's circumstantial. That's telling part of the 1303 01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.279 app that's telling part of the story because these guys 1304 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.159 always have their phones on all the time other than 1305 01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:58.319 this period of time. 1306 01:08:58.680 --> 01:08:58.960 Okay. 1307 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.760 In addition to that, we were able to do some. 1308 01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:04.520 Other high tech stuff, which by the way, we're the 1309 01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:07.319 only city in Oklahoma that has this ability. We're able 1310 01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:10.920 to do high tech DNA testing on cartridge casings to 1311 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:12.560 where we might be able to get DNA. 1312 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:15.439 Furthermore, I'll just mention this real quick. 1313 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:17.119 We're going to going to be the only city in 1314 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.239 the state of Oklahoma to have an MVAC, which is 1315 01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:24.800 another high tech DNA testing device, which is it's game 1316 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.760 changing for gold cases. Now this is the second one 1317 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:30.159 I'm gonna tell you real quick. And by the way, 1318 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:31.720 off of that, what I was able to do is 1319 01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.079 I was able to get that driver that I know 1320 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:37.760 who he is. He goes, I didn't do anything. I 1321 01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:40.000 don't know what's up. My car was stolen. Wait a second, 1322 01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.000 if my phone was stolen, No, wasn't because you're on 1323 01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.840 video beforehand. Okay, I'll just take you everything and then 1324 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.760 the next guy. Okay, wait a second. 1325 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:48.640 Wait, I was asleep. 1326 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:49.319 I was in the car. 1327 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.800 Wait hey, I was out of the neighborhood when I 1328 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.319 heard shots. 1329 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.239 Later, well that's why you got me away on a minute, 1330 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:55.439 let me change that story. 1331 01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.560 You know these guys are responsible. 1332 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.039 Okay, So this is this is nothing to Now we 1333 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:04.560 have a lot furthermore of the second case. I'm going 1334 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:05.960 to tell you this is another one of my cases 1335 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.079 that happened relatively recently on I two forty four close 1336 01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:12.920 to downtown. This is a car that and I hope 1337 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.359 you guys are interested in this because this is fascinating 1338 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.680 stuff for me. So basic facts of this. We got 1339 01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:20.760 a vehicle traveling on the Interstate. It gets onto the 1340 01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:22.880 Interstate right before this thing gets lit up with bullets. 1341 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.359 Seven people in this vehicle and this car. 1342 01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:27.880 Gets shot up. 1343 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:29.680 I couldn't even I don't even remember how many times, 1344 01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:31.880 but how only two people in this car got shot 1345 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:32.600 is amazing to me. 1346 01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:34.760 Only two people. 1347 01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.399 Got shot because this thing is real with bullets that 1348 01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:41.279 you'll see in a moment. One of them was one 1349 01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:42.399 of them was sixteen years old. 1350 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:43.199 He ended up dying. 1351 01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:48.640 Okay, his girlfriend got shot and she survived. And all 1352 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:50.479 they could tell us was that it was a white 1353 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:54.479 issue B. That's it, white ISSUEV on the Interstate of 1354 01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:56.159 all places. I mean, they made a lot of those. 1355 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:58.880 So that's all we have to work with. 1356 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:05.000 Else that's it. Well, we got to figure it out. 1357 01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:07.159 But with nothing that's really tough to do. 1358 01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:09.479 So that's this is how we're gonna figure it out, 1359 01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:11.119 because we're gonna figure out together, and you're gonna see 1360 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:14.079 the value of this technology. There's no witnesses, there's no 1361 01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.479 surveillance video along the stretch of highway. 1362 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.000 And that captures anything. 1363 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:23.359 Nothing, And the vehicle, the occupants of the vehicle, they 1364 01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:24.720 didn't see the shooter or just think about it for 1365 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:25.039 a minute. 1366 01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.199 If you're driving down the interstate, are you gonna be 1367 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:29.399 just staring down this vehicle that's shooting bullets. 1368 01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:29.439 Into your car? 1369 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.600 Heck no, you're gonna be looking at You're gonna cover yourself. 1370 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:32.880 And that's what was going on. 1371 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.119 So they couldn't identify it betting inside of this car. 1372 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.600 Part of the reason is just f why part of 1373 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:41.479 the reason why they couldn't identify a betting it in 1374 01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:44.199 that car even if they did see it as a 1375 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:47.560 couple of them or from here up here, you. 1376 01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:49.720 Know they're not from down our way there. And this 1377 01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:54.600 part of the stake was this why that the Tulsa 1378 01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:58.359 state for Yes, okay, So. 1379 01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.039 Then as you see here here's the call on the interstate. 1380 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:03.840 There's all the bullets on the driver's side of the 1381 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.000 car and on the rear of the car. All of 1382 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:13.239 those bullets are focused in those areas. Okay, remember there's 1383 01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:18.000 seven people in this car when this thing's happening. Lots 1384 01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:22.239 of bullets going through this vehicle. So what we do 1385 01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:26.199 is we run the vehicle, the victim vehicle. Okay, the victim, 1386 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.840 We run their car through flock and we get some 1387 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.119 hits on that off of flock. Actually, we didn't even 1388 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:35.000 get this case in homicide for probably two and a 1389 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:36.800 half three weeks. I ended up getting it and I 1390 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:38.640 was like, oh my gosh, I'm so far behind the 1391 01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:41.880 eight ball here, and they're like, well, we did run 1392 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:43.920 it through flock. We just don't know if it means anything. 1393 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:45.960 So when we kind of look at this and as 1394 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:49.119 we see this, here's the victim vehicle, and then there's 1395 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:51.640 another car that's directly behind it in another view at 1396 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:55.319 admirlin Harbord. Okay, now this is close to where they 1397 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.600 get on the interstate actually, and then there you go, 1398 01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.600 there's a white ash that happens to be behind it. Now, 1399 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.079 now listen, I can't tell you for certain that that's 1400 01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:07.000 the car that they said white shuv. It could be coincidence. 1401 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.159 But yet we find that car and we continue to 1402 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:13.479 find that car and watch video of that car following them, 1403 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.119 and then we watch and we see the video in 1404 01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:20.520 quick trips. We do all the quick trips, We check 1405 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.760 all the cameras we can find, and we see this 1406 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.479 car traveling through a quick trip and we can see 1407 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:27.640 that mark that's along the side. 1408 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:29.079 It's kind of you can't tell it really there. It's 1409 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:30.640 a little easier on the real video, but. 1410 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:33.119 Basically that's a line that goes across there, that's like 1411 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:35.479 a scratch or a mark. Then what we're able to 1412 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:37.359 do is we're able to attract down that car from 1413 01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.079 license plate readers because they're freaking everywhere and I'm not 1414 01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.399 just talking flock, We're talking other businesses and everything, and 1415 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.039 we're able to see that they were at a quick trip. 1416 01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:46.800 We look at that, we see daytime photos, and then 1417 01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.720 we're able to see somebody that's associated with that vehicle 1418 01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:50.920 on the same data to the murder. 1419 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:52.479 Then we're able to. 1420 01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:54.399 Figure out who he is and then go from there. 1421 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:57.119 We do phone data from that and we start seeing 1422 01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:59.399 that his phone was in the area at the time 1423 01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:04.159 of that. This is basically what you're gonna see here 1424 01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:07.039 is you're gonna see the victim vehicle. 1425 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:18.520 Coming up to the to the intersection there. Victim vehicle's 1426 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:19.000 gonna be here. 1427 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:29.319 He makes a turn here in a second, well, I 1428 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.399 don't want to wait too long, but basically, the victim 1429 01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:32.319 vehicle's gonna turn there. 1430 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.079 The suspect vehicle is gonna come from behind. 1431 01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:38.039 When that happens, the suspect vehicle doesn't immediately follow them 1432 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:40.399 because the other car goes strim or makes a turn. 1433 01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.119 So that guy he basically rips into the quid Trick 1434 01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:46.680 parking lot and drives through it at a higher rate 1435 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:50.439 of speed than normal. And then from there basically we 1436 01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:52.520 see that car. Now that it doesn't show us who's 1437 01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:54.520 in that car, we're not able to see that there either. 1438 01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:56.720 We would love to, but we can't. This is not 1439 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.920 even flocked. This is surveillance video. 1440 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:01.000 But then from we can. 1441 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:08.079 See that's the victim, that's the suspect vehicle. We see 1442 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.800 that going past Equipper there actually where this is. This 1443 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.319 is after Admiral and Harvard. And then we have another 1444 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:21.199 camera that shows victim vehicle and that white SUV traveling 1445 01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.159 right behind them on I two forty. 1446 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:27.319 Four, literally right there. That's huge for us. This is 1447 01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:28.960 a case where we have zero nothing. 1448 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.600 This is never getting solved without this kind of technology 1449 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:33.760 that exists out there. It's never gonna get solved unless 1450 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.079 people are talking. And even if they are talking, that's 1451 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:37.039 just word on the streets. 1452 01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:37.920 We can't do much with that. 1453 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:41.920 So the final thoughts that I'm gonna tell you because 1454 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:43.319 I know I want to, we want to have you 1455 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.119 have questions if. 1456 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.840 You want to know some more what we deal with 1457 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:49.760 these pieces of the puzzle. Listen, I can tell you 1458 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:50.039 right now. 1459 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:51.640 I can stand up here all day long and I 1460 01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:54.760 hear your concern I could see where you're thinking, oh 1461 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.920 my gosh, the government's installing cameras all over to monitor 1462 01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:58.800 where every move. 1463 01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:00.680 That's not what this is about. I can assure you 1464 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.760 that it's not. This is to solve crimes. 1465 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:05.399 That's it. 1466 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.640 We don't have time to be sitting there, sitting there 1467 01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:10.399 looking at photos of cars all day long. 1468 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:11.199 We just don't. 1469 01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:14.560 We'll have questions here at the end. 1470 01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.600 So I just wanted to remind you about the evolution 1471 01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:19.560 of technology. 1472 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:23.760 Okay, literally, and this is in some of your lifetimes, 1473 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.439 of the phone technology from a regular phone to the 1474 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.199 cell phone technology of today, which by the way, cell 1475 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:33.960 phones so today are like more powerful than the computers 1476 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:34.920 that got us to the moon. 1477 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.119 Okay, that's how it is. 1478 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:40.640 And with respect to law enforcement, honestly, you know, if 1479 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.399 you think about it, from their video recording and so 1480 01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.640 forth to now where we're in body caps, I mean, 1481 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.119 it's it's a huge tool for us. It exonerates people there, 1482 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:52.159 It exonerates cops. It gets cops convicted of things if 1483 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:55.199 they do wrongdoing. It's good for everybody. I've never worn 1484 01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:57.680 a camera because I'm too old. I've been inside a 1485 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.159 long time. But these guys that work the street, they 1486 01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:02.560 wear them all the time. That's a good technology. 1487 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:04.039 And now we have. 1488 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:10.159 Rooms filled with computers in real time crime data. 1489 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.279 Operators that exist out there that are there for you. 1490 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:14.640 And that's what it's about. That's how we're able to 1491 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:18.000 solve fifty of these murders. I mean, that's what we want, right. 1492 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.319 We want to solve your burglaries. 1493 01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:22.520 We want to find out who robbed you, and that's 1494 01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:24.159 what we're interested in doing. 1495 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:26.560 And this is the technology that exists. 1496 01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:30.039 So I appreciate your time and your attentiveness. I think 1497 01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.560 that it's awesome that this many people are here at this. 1498 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.319 Community meeting, and I don't blame you for having questions. 1499 01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:37.119 That's what you should do. That's my information. 1500 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:39.880 If you can take a picture of that, if you 1501 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.520 did have questions and I could possibly answer it. Half 1502 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:44.399 the city of Tulsa has my phone number. 1503 01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:49.239 So I'm not worried about it anyway. 1504 01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:57.039 Thank you very much, thank you, thank you. 1505 01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.000 So now we're going to have all open it up 1506 01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:03.479 for questions. I did want to remind everyone that we 1507 01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.079 need to remain respectful. 1508 01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:07.199 This is not going to be a debate. We will 1509 01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:11.399 do our best to answer your questions between this panel 1510 01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:16.319 of experts here, So just please remain professional and we 1511 01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:17.079 can go from there. 1512 01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:18.920 Wch Dom. 1513 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.399 So essentially on top of my w Chief Nil up there, 1514 01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:27.039 we have a microphone. 1515 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.359 If we have any questions, we can go up there 1516 01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:32.520 and you will maintain that. 1517 01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:39.880 Any questions, Okay, if you are you where you can 1518 01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.119 walk up the steps there or Troy, can you bring 1519 01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:42.520 it down. 1520 01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:55.760 Possibly concerned certain redundancies. 1521 01:18:56.600 --> 01:19:02.319 Pertaining to the juice statute that District Attorney Drake mentioned 1522 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:07.600 with police units and other cameras that we're seeing in 1523 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:11.680 these images, there's a certain amount of redundancy that I'm 1524 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.479 seeing with flock that in my mind, I don't see 1525 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:21.399 justifying thirty thousand dollars per camera. And secondarily, I'm curious 1526 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.520 how many of these systems have been revoked, as one 1527 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.079 that I know about near Wichita than can So. 1528 01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:35.159 Is three thousand per camera. So our total project is 1529 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:37.960 thirty thousand dollars per ten cameras. 1530 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:45.880 Also well that you VET cameras can only be used 1531 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.600 for the uv appropriated SEBI across the statewide. So the 1532 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:53.359 idea is that every district is twenty seven district attorneys, 1533 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.399 and the ideas in every district gets eight one camera. 1534 01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:00.840 Obviously there's for people in Tulsa City and the nor 1535 01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.439 Moon there's still waters that there's more cameras there, So 1536 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.000 those serviated kind of out of the mix for any 1537 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:07.680 of this. They're gonna be used for that UVET in 1538 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.840 church program. As far as just ten, I can't really 1539 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:13.319 speak to ten. I will speak ten cameras in barbles Hill. 1540 01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:16.840 Bartles Hill is only you know, fifty thousand people, but 1541 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:21.159 geographically it's a huge city, and I don't think ten 1542 01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:23.840 cameras is near enough. I understand three thousand dollars it 1543 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.920 sounds like a lot, but also we've got to figure 1544 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:28.600 out how much we use them. I mean, we're if 1545 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.880 you're not using them okay, also means like crimes down, 1546 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.560 we're doing awesome, right, But if it just depends on 1547 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.199 how much we're using them for, and I probably be 1548 01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:40.840 moved around once it get some expertise and experience with it. 1549 01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.479 What are some high traffic areas? What's you know, different areas? 1550 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.520 So I lookt they can probably speak to that more. 1551 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:48.560 But frankly, the biggest bartles is geographically, and I don't 1552 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:50.560 know if ten cameras is really enough because of how the. 1553 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:51.319 Hearts of the town is. 1554 01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:55.640 A solid question right over here. 1555 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.840 They ca them work for it's gonna be We had 1556 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:03.800 the idea that questions up at the top, but it 1557 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:06.439 looks like we'll just maybe run this nice select day. 1558 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:06.960 He'll be fine. 1559 01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:14.000 We'll stay fluid with it. My question is for mister Drake. 1560 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:20.840 You mentioned in your presentation that there was no expectation 1561 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:25.119 of privacy and aerial surveillance. Yet, if I remember right, 1562 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:32.319 twenty twenty two, the Fourth Circuit ruled against the City 1563 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:37.279 of Baltimore for their area forty five day surveillance program, 1564 01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:43.159 which seems to be in contrast for what you said. 1565 01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.920 And the second point I was wondering about is that 1566 01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:51.000 in the Carpenter case that the Supreme Court ruled on 1567 01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:53.720 in twenty eighteen, which was the basis I think for 1568 01:21:54.720 --> 01:22:00.800 the Fourth Circuit's decision in the Baltimore case, and they said, 1569 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:07.840 a majority of the Court has already recognized that individuals 1570 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:12.119 have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the. 1571 01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.159 Whole of their physical movements. 1572 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.439 And in your presentation there was truly enough no discussion 1573 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:19.640 about physical movement. 1574 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:20.600 It was all place. 1575 01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:26.239 But yet the Supreme Court seems to have moved when 1576 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:32.199 the direction that a system that totally encompasses and enables 1577 01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:40.039 are every citizen's movements to be followed is a violation 1578 01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:43.239 of the Fourth amm and would be a search under 1579 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:46.600 the Fourth Amendment and what therefore require a warrant based 1580 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:47.640 on probable cause. 1581 01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:49.239 So I just wondered if. 1582 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:58.560 In yeah, if you're let's say the government was following 1583 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.720 you every minute day for a long period of time, 1584 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:06.399 that would be what they're talking about, the movement thing, 1585 01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:10.359 you're constantly under surveillance, about a warrant that's you know, 1586 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:12.560 that's what we're talking about in those cases. As far 1587 01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:15.840 as these licensed plate readers, they are on fixed locations. 1588 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:19.760 It's a picture of the lack of your vehicle. You're 1589 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:25.359 not under constant surveillance. There's a case out of there 1590 01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:29.000 a education in Texas where the DDA put up a 1591 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:31.880 pole camera for nine months outside of drug a suspected 1592 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:34.640 drug dealer's house. There's a case that sad that is 1593 01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:37.680 gonna be a problem because nine months of complete surveillance 1594 01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:40.119 of this person's every movement for nine months about a 1595 01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:43.119 warrant was problematic, which I think we all can see 1596 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:47.319 ten cameras across the city of Bartlesville and then one 1597 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:51.359 individual locations is nowhere near complete the total surveillance, right, 1598 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:52.720 the big perfect sense. 1599 01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:01.399 I'm failure pro catch it all a little. I love it. 1600 01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:07.119 But also the rod bus uh following of amendment. So 1601 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.439 the question what comes down to is when w. 1602 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:15.399 Be passed the lawn that has the city considerably all 1603 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:15.800 about that? 1604 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:21.359 You don't the does the fourth Amendment may actually apply 1605 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.800 at some point? What is that point? 1606 01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.119 And how we've been rest not costly you got a 1607 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:32.159 WAM whatever that point they would you it's an able 1608 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:33.119 to flying line on you. 1609 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:36.520 I would be a great more rules on them more. 1610 01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:39.079 Pa Oh, I I agree, and as we all know, 1611 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:42.479 the law moves slower than real life does cause and 1612 01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.640 for a good reason. I think that you want to 1613 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.760 you don't want the course being reactive. I think you 1614 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:48.680 want the course to be well thought out. I think 1615 01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:52.920 what their decisions are gonna be. So but I get 1616 01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.359 what you're saying, but we're we're way off from complete 1617 01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:57.439 surveillance of ten I mean, I don't relign that, but 1618 01:24:57.520 --> 01:24:59.479 the line is not ten cameras across the entire state. 1619 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.920 Tulsa got two hundred. It isn't cross that line yet. 1620 01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:06.479 Here's what I think about this too. I mean, I've 1621 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.479 got lots of producing in this area, but I have 1622 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:12.279 a feeling in Tulsa County is the ties they can 1623 01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:17.039 be in Tulsa County. If those homicide suspects that attorney's 1624 01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:19.359 not this, they be moving to suppress all that evidence. 1625 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:21.399 And so far we haven't seen any of that. So 1626 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:24.840 that's a good indicator to me that is across the 1627 01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.600 line of Tulsa, and Tulsa is way worse surveiled than 1628 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.239 Bartlesville is with our nine hopefully ten cameras soon. 1629 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.640 I also want to point out that what you're talking 1630 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:36.439 about is somebody sees you when they're following you. 1631 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:37.800 This is a car tag. 1632 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:39.039 This is not a person. 1633 01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:39.520 This is a. 1634 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:41.640 Piece of fine. 1635 01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.680 This is not so it's not a person of itself, 1636 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.239 and we can't improve it by from these cameras that 1637 01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:49.960 you're driving that card. Somebody else would be driving your card. 1638 01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:52.319 While it does give us some place to start looking, 1639 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.720 it's evidence. We have to develop evidence. We have tools 1640 01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:58.119 against that question right up here. 1641 01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:04.079 Then a question, Yeah, not except mister lockeow. 1642 01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.560 But my question is in terms of the technology, there 1643 01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:09.880 is going to get an air rate. 1644 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:15.560 It is not zero urangy at of recognition will never 1645 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:19.079 be zero. So what do you do when you have 1646 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:24.039 got a license plate that's been mis rent and then 1647 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.720 you go, let's just say it's a h run. You 1648 01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:29.560 got the license plate and miss red. 1649 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:31.399 Now you got the wrong car. 1650 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:32.640 What happens? 1651 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:36.239 So our policy, as the actually outlines that exact situation. 1652 01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:40.159 Her policy, our officer has to visually inspect that tag 1653 01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.720 and can run that tag themselves through all it's before 1654 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.359 initiating the traffic stocks. 1655 01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:49.560 So it was essentially we're safeguarden from that. 1656 01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:53.279 But the cases has reported in the news. 1657 01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.960 It's been told our license plate rears at a seven. 1658 01:26:58.840 --> 01:26:59.319 Is a lot. 1659 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:01.720 Sure, but the policy. 1660 01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:05.239 But then they looks at a. 1661 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:11.239 Point, but they dash, says his computer says a blot. 1662 01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:13.439 But he paid to. 1663 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:18.840 Make that relationship. No, would solve it all times because 1664 01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:19.880 it's a blony encounter. 1665 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:24.119 Saw now what But again, we will rely on policy. 1666 01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:26.640 The policy, says answer. He needs to confirm that he 1667 01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:28.800 needs to be able to visually expect it and run 1668 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:33.199 through this system. Is not always, sir again, asked answer, 1669 01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:36.199 This is not a debate. This we have policy that 1670 01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:40.079 outlines that and if he fails to especial fails to 1671 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.680 deal with that, then he'll be dealt with or follow 1672 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:44.039 the policy properly'll be dealt with. 1673 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:46.720 Next question up here, mister Locke. 1674 01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:50.960 Again, we got a question up here. 1675 01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:52.640 We gotta keep this early. 1676 01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:58.159 And I'm Josh Locke, I've been involved in hopefully might 1677 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.520 have them interview here to hear this tonight. I work 1678 01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:04.840 in the space, I've spoken, I've spoken to a number 1679 01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:06.840 of view at the police department and let me just 1680 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:07.880 couch everything I'm going. 1681 01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:08.319 To say with. 1682 01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:13.720 I have no issue with any of you in the 1683 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.479 police department with the district attorney with anyone who uses 1684 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:20.840 this at at the end to point of the technology. 1685 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:23.680 I work in the data space. 1686 01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:28.119 I know intimately the architecture of these systems, how the 1687 01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:32.680 data is captured, how it's co located. My job is 1688 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:37.720 to take data that is captured for purposes outside of 1689 01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.119 what the data is originally intended to be used for 1690 01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:44.359 and draw conclusions from it. So understand all of my 1691 01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:47.239 comments in that context that I work in this space 1692 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.600 and I know exactly how it can be abused. So 1693 01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.439 my first question is about the architecture because it's the 1694 01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:59.880 primary aspect of my opposite. My complete opposition is, to 1695 01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.239 make no mistake, my complete and total opposition to this 1696 01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:08.000 technology existing in any function in any amount of cameras. 1697 01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:11.880 But a lot of what's been explained to us is 1698 01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:16.640 these are ALPR cameras. There it's a focus on license 1699 01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:17.239 plate reading. 1700 01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.600 It's a focus on capturing this. 1701 01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:25.399 Unique information about the vehicles for this architecture to work. 1702 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.039 And those of you from Flowed. 1703 01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.960 Can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm based on 1704 01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:36.720 how I can see how this works. Every single time 1705 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:43.079 this infrastructure detects movement, it triggers image capshuit. 1706 01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:45.079 At the device at. 1707 01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:47.039 The endpoint, can you confirm that. 1708 01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:52.920 So the way that the blow de license plate readers 1709 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.960 work is a motion detection. So they are facing the 1710 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.640 public right of way the road. If there's a vehicle 1711 01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:01.359 that passes by and may is taken of that vehicle 1712 01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:04.319 at that point, the machine learning. 1713 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:07.319 Catalogs what it saw, right, Is it a Honda? 1714 01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:11.439 Is it read is there a bike rack, et cetera? 1715 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:14.520 And what the alpha numeric you know, digits of the 1716 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:15.399 lighters we are. 1717 01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:17.399 And I think the spirit of the question is though, 1718 01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:22.560 if it's motion detecting, is it capturing anything that's on 1719 01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:26.159 the road that's moving. It is capturing whatever is on 1720 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:27.760 the road that's in front of it. But now, what 1721 01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:30.159 is searchable by law enforcement? 1722 01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:33.960 I've heard everything I need to hear. 1723 01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:35.439 You've told me everything. Need to thank you. 1724 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:37.760 Okay, Now, so here's why I called me finish for 1725 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:42.000 the benefit of the of the entire community. The your 1726 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.880 police department has filters that they first they will have 1727 01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:47.800 to enter in a casewere, so they're looking for. 1728 01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:50.720 A vehicle a case that's associated with the vehicle. 1729 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.399 They then are able to search for that vehicle and 1730 01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.239 filters only there's no people filters. 1731 01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:57.920 At the software layer. 1732 01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.920 At the software layer, that's a control of the software layer, 1733 01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:01.680 not at. 1734 01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:02.479 The database layer. 1735 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:07.079 No, this is important for. 1736 01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:14.479 People to understand sir. Yes, I'm being respectful, so. 1737 01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:21.039 So yeah, so, And if you have another question, I'm happy. 1738 01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:21.960 To absolutely so. 1739 01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.199 The reason I asked that is for this technology work, 1740 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:29.119 the raw data is captured at the moment motion is detected. 1741 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:33.119 The AI and the algorithms all occur on the back end. 1742 01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:33.920 They occur. 1743 01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:38.279 They occur after all data is co located and stored 1744 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:42.000 centrally in the in the Amazon Web Services system that 1745 01:31:42.039 --> 01:31:43.239 you explain to us. 1746 01:31:43.560 --> 01:31:46.039 So what this means is that. 1747 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:48.640 Everything is being promised to you, just so that everyone 1748 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:52.520 understands clearly, all these promises, everything has told you about 1749 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.920 the system. All of these promises exist on the software 1750 01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.840 layer of this system. They don't exist at the endpoint, 1751 01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:02.600 so the actual device is city in your neighborhood. None 1752 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.239 of these controls reside at the endpoint, in at the 1753 01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:08.279 device in the neighborhood. They all reside at the software layer, 1754 01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.319 which is where which which, by the way, for anyone 1755 01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:13.680 who works in software, you know how easy software can 1756 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:17.119 be changed. No, I'm not getting off sir, this is 1757 01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.479 important for people to understand. Sir, this is very important. 1758 01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:25.199 This is information that you're speaking about that you were 1759 01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:25.880 not represented. 1760 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:30.199 Okay, you have the Flock experts here, so I'm saying 1761 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:32.159 with making correct anything, I'm. 1762 01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:38.640 Saying, I'm an expert in this field. I know what 1763 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:39.560 I'm talking about. 1764 01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:46.479 I'm not a technology Okay, we've contracted with Flock and 1765 01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:49.520 we're we're sharing how we're importating. It has the purpose 1766 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:50.000 of this one. 1767 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:51.319 We're happy. 1768 01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:53.680 It's not on your opinion of what's happening. 1769 01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:55.159 I'm not I'm not sharing my opinion. 1770 01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:57.399 I asked this very specific question about the architecture. 1771 01:32:58.000 --> 01:32:59.560 I'm asking about the architecture. 1772 01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:10.479 This is us question you have. 1773 01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.119 So questions. 1774 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.760 Are the controls you promise us on the software layer, or. 1775 01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.960 On the on the database layer, or are they on 1776 01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.640 the end point? 1777 01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:23.960 I can assure he is with Barswell Police Department in 1778 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:24.359 the City of. 1779 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:28.119 Barlsville will control our people and our equipment to the 1780 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:29.000 best of our ability. 1781 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:30.239 We will enforce the laws. 1782 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:33.039 Concerned about you, I'm concerned about the software layer. Apparently 1783 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:35.640 you're concerned about the breach of this software. There's not 1784 01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:39.239 If there's our bus in this room have their healthcare 1785 01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:43.199 information breached in the last thirty days were getting on 1786 01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:45.439 and they weren't for the last and play readers and 1787 01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:49.439 you have up. This is a public medium, so. 1788 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:55.319 Fou preps please answer the questions about the database layer. 1789 01:33:55.359 --> 01:33:56.479 I think that's I think that's. 1790 01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:00.760 The mad reguard of the system and that did the 1791 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.760 question worked the answer they might be an. 1792 01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:06.000 What I can say is I I think there was 1793 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:11.880 a valid concerns. Honestly, what what I what I can 1794 01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:15.319 say is we are happy to address any specific questions. 1795 01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.279 I there was a a lot of different information that 1796 01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:20.359 was being shared if and there was some questions there. 1797 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.199 If you feel free through the police department, we will 1798 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.399 have our engineers answer any questions that you were a residents. 1799 01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:30.159 And we I it just for the benefit of the publics. 1800 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:32.079 We will share it with or ever when I just 1801 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:33.399 don't know exactly what. 1802 01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:47.560 If you don't quite. 1803 01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.640 I have a concern about the agri aggregate data and 1804 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:54.760 you will end up being able to get it too. 1805 01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:00.880 If the FBI came to you and ask you if 1806 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:07.880 they could have data on a suspect, would you call 1807 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:12.000 for that them? Would you give them the data? So 1808 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:13.600 that's a great question. 1809 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:14.399 There's two parts to it. 1810 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:17.239 There's a flock porship and there's a portion from your 1811 01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:20.600 police department. From the flat side, all the data is 1812 01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:24.039 owned by Bartosville PD, right, So we do not own 1813 01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:26.199 or share that data or have the ability to do that. 1814 01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:31.760 If the FBI were to request data from Flock, our 1815 01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:34.199 response to them is that we are not the owner. 1816 01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:37.800 We would direct them to your police department. At that point, 1817 01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:39.760 I can't speak au of your city attorney, et cetera. 1818 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:44.119 But your popular department with follows their policy on sharing uh. 1819 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.920 And then that would be uh, you know, decided at 1820 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:49.199 your city level. 1821 01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:55.039 So would you share the data with the FBI? And absolutely? 1822 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:55.840 Oh. 1823 01:35:56.239 --> 01:36:00.560 The data we're sharing with them is a lotus plate. 1824 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:01.960 That's it. 1825 01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:05.239 They have access to run that license plate and getting 1826 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:08.000 all the information off that license plate. We are here 1827 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:10.479 to help other law enforcement agencies. It doesn't matter what 1828 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:13.039 usuals they use. If there are a law enforcement agency 1829 01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:15.399 and the law enforcement partner and we're trying to solve 1830 01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:19.000 crimes together, we're gonna share that information with them if 1831 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.199 they asked for it. That's the bottom line. We ask 1832 01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:22.560 them for a lot of things, so they're gonna ask 1833 01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:24.359 us for a lot of things. Are we giving them 1834 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:27.800 any data? We're giving them a license plate. That's all 1835 01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:28.239 we're giving. 1836 01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:33.520 My concern is the aggregate data that the FBI, for instance, 1837 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:34.840 could collect. 1838 01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:37.880 And for instance J six. 1839 01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:40.399 Do you do you believe that there is an. 1840 01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:42.840 Insurrection by the hublics. 1841 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:44.159 I'm not gonna be family. 1842 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:48.239 This is very yourmane Okay, this is very very Tomine 1843 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:53.800 believe that J six people that walk into the Capital 1844 01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:55.960 Building were insurrectionists? 1845 01:36:56.319 --> 01:36:58.479 Sir, I wasn't there. I don't have the information to insperation. 1846 01:36:58.560 --> 01:36:58.880 You don't. 1847 01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:02.039 You don't know why TV it'll get there's a lot 1848 01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:04.840 of misinformation, so that's we're getting tracking. 1849 01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:09.439 Okay, let's let me let me leave my thought. I 1850 01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:15.960 do not trust that the FBI corral the right people. 1851 01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.119 I think the people that walked in and got. 1852 01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:21.840 Arrested were. 1853 01:37:24.359 --> 01:37:26.359 Regular citizens and they were. 1854 01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:34.279 Put up with it with the UH the contacts that 1855 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:37.479 the FBI had. The The reason why I. 1856 01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:40.880 Bring this up is if you've shared this with the FBI, 1857 01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:45.920 they could use this to bring in Grandma because they 1858 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:48.520 have to be at the. 1859 01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:52.239 Capitol Building for instance. That's exactly what happened. 1860 01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.600 Let me read a no, no, this is not a debate, 1861 01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:58.039 or this is not a debate, this is not a lecture. 1862 01:37:58.600 --> 01:37:59.800 This is the answer question. 1863 01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:04.960 I just want to read founders or He'll try to 1864 01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:06.560 answer your question a little bit further right here. 1865 01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:11.399 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a 1866 01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:12.800 little temporary safety? 1867 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:16.920 Is there maybe good any nor safety? That was thank 1868 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:18.000 you what I'm saying. 1869 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:25.159 This guy, I think I was first. 1870 01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:30.720 Sorry, ladies, First, I'm not gonna ask anything about privacy. 1871 01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:32.640 So nobody has to kick anybody out. 1872 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:37.479 Mister Drake mentioned once, and I think somebody else had mentioned, 1873 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:40.079 and then a city councilor is also mentioned the same 1874 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:44.199 topic about the concerns of a kid kidnapped child. This 1875 01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:46.319 is I have two questions, so nobody takes a mic 1876 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:46.560 from me. 1877 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:50.079 First, this is BTD question. Is there a rise on 1878 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:56.039 child abduction crimes of Barbersville? Okay? 1879 01:38:56.159 --> 01:39:00.720 So second question, is there an ongoing uprise of children 1880 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:02.159 being abducted from school grounds? 1881 01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:04.359 Okay? 1882 01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:07.199 So can we remove that question from the scenario we're 1883 01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:09.439 concerned for the plot camera usage? 1884 01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:15.439 My question absolutely not Okay, I mean, so are we 1885 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:17.640 facing off of assumption more facts? 1886 01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:22.279 But if it's not an uprising concern, it would be assumption. 1887 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:24.119 All just wonder these things happens. 1888 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:25.880 Right, Well, I'm a mother. 1889 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:27.279 I completely understand. 1890 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:30.720 That's why I'm merely asking if there's a rise of 1891 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:32.760 concern on child kidnapping. 1892 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.199 I would love to know about two young children. 1893 01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:38.600 I'm concerned about it every single day because I'm response 1894 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:39.199 for all these schools. 1895 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:42.840 Percent I worry about it every day. I carried a 1896 01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:45.600 pistol in my purse twenty four to seven. I will 1897 01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:48.600 protect my children, but in the mere case that I cannot, 1898 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:51.560 I need to know, Oh, there's an uprising kidnap children. 1899 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:52.760 Is that the case? 1900 01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:56.119 Well, there's always a chance, and the Chief mentioned earlier 1901 01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:59.920 in his heart, we've had the sixteen year old get taken, 1902 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.920 and we have these things happen time and time. Typically, 1903 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:06.119 usually it's the non custodial parent is what usually takes 1904 01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:07.439 these kids from my husband's. 1905 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:11.359 That doesn't apply to me here. My question is, okay, 1906 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:14.000 my question is I feel like we're getting off topic here. 1907 01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:16.039 My question is, so there is not a rise in 1908 01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:17.920 child kidnapping crimes of partless? 1909 01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:19.479 No, that's wrong, ma'am. 1910 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:21.680 I guess I don't understand why you're asking that question, 1911 01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:23.359 but simple reason there. 1912 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.000 May be a way. 1913 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:28.560 Still different times, the city counselor has mentioned that concern. 1914 01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.520 Our district attorney has mentioned that concern, and I believe 1915 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.720 it was either the Tulsa Police chief that also mentioned 1916 01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:35.239 that concern. 1917 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:38.680 It is, it is a reason and it is logical 1918 01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:39.079 right now. 1919 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.439 One because I'm a mother of two children in this 1920 01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:43.279 city and that does concern me. 1921 01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:47.359 Okay, I think you're miss under but maybe I'm misinterpreting 1922 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:48.039 the question. 1923 01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:51.560 Concern, just asking very simple, is there an uprising childcat? 1924 01:40:52.319 --> 01:40:55.760 Okay, thank you, there is an upright. 1925 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.800 In a right. 1926 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.159 I just wanted to say thank you very much for 1927 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.520 putting on this form. I just have two simple questions 1928 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:09.479 for the Flock folks, thank you for coming out today. 1929 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:14.479 One, you've mentioned a couple of times that the city 1930 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:16.119 of Bartonsville does own its own. 1931 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:20.119 Data, but there's a huge difference in data ownership and 1932 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:25.880 data custonianship. Do I take that to understand that flock 1933 01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:31.039 itself actually maintains custodianship of the data that those cameras capture. 1934 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:36.520 So we use sorry, yeah, we use AWS Government Cloud 1935 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:38.319 to store your data. 1936 01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:40.520 It's and to end encryptos. So the way it works 1937 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:43.000 is the images taken post of. 1938 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:43.600 The machine learning. 1939 01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:48.600 It's stored there when your department can access it from 1940 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:51.720 a you know, as we've been mentioning, your police department 1941 01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:55.359 owns it. That's contractual. We do not monetize any data. 1942 01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:58.319 We also something that's important to know, as Kristen mentioned 1943 01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:02.159 in her presentation, we don't have any DMB records here. 1944 01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:05.199 I think it was also noted this is an investigative tool, right, 1945 01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:09.119 so your police department still has to take that image, 1946 01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:13.239 use other existing software that they have to potentially tie 1947 01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:14.560 vehicle owner, et cetera. 1948 01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:19.479 So really this is one piece of evidence to start. 1949 01:42:19.399 --> 01:42:21.800 Investigation and just to kind of enter one of the 1950 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:26.119 other concerns all around privacy and protections. Please remember that 1951 01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.079 the data is only stored for thirty days and it's 1952 01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:32.159 hard delete it, and that's intentional in order to protect 1953 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:33.119 privacy right to not have. 1954 01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:34.640 That long term intention of data. 1955 01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:37.840 So that is an important piece and along with obviously 1956 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:39.800 the policies of the seiers of your department. 1957 01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:43.399 The five thousands, you're saying that backer. 1958 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:47.319 No, no, only only the networks in it that we're 1959 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:47.800 sharing with. 1960 01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.680 That's a one hundred eleven networks hunt of. 1961 01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:53.960 Five thousand, but potentially thousands of people that to pot 1962 01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:56.680 you interrupted someone else's time. If you get that and 1963 01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:58.000 anually has to lead. 1964 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:01.720 To if you will for give me one more question please, 1965 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:07.239 My question is around flock safety itself. Is a publicly 1966 01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:11.520 trade your companies selling private private where there can't be 1967 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:15.880 any shareholder interests that override the policies that they would 1968 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:16.840 normally employed. 1969 01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:22.039 We're privately helped and all our contracts are reviewed by 1970 01:43:22.119 --> 01:43:24.199 your city and starting your policymakers. 1971 01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:26.680 So we are holding to the contact that we have 1972 01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:27.039 with you. 1973 01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:32.159 As you may remember from Christian's presentation, we're a software 1974 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:34.800 as a service a model. So at any time you 1975 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:38.000 know these we will if the city decides to not 1976 01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:39.760 continue the contract, we will. 1977 01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:43.520 Take our our hardware out. 1978 01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:43.800 Of the city. 1979 01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.640 And so it's for us it's really important to hey 1980 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:50.800 follow that. But also that's where your policymakers and police 1981 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:54.359 department come together to create a policy that reflects your community. 1982 01:43:57.600 --> 01:43:59.760 You said that flock doesn't sell any of the data 1983 01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:05.279 day or collecting. Is there third parties or team companies 1984 01:44:05.359 --> 01:44:08.000 that our police department could sell that data too if 1985 01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:10.680 they wanted to do like traffic mining or like Hey, 1986 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:11.880 this is a disease intersection. 1987 01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.479 They're probably a lot of like this is a. 1988 01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:15.880 Driving front here, Mercedes, maybe. 1989 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.520 We should market order here that kind of information. 1990 01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:20.279 No, there is there So. 1991 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:24.000 If you remember, this is also something that's really important. 1992 01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:26.720 In order for them to access the system, they have. 1993 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:29.920 To answer a search reason every single time, and so 1994 01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:32.479 the search reason is only creative. There's somebody that called 1995 01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:35.239 the police department. There's a case summer associated with that. 1996 01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:37.560 That's the only time they can then put in those 1997 01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:40.159 filters that are associated with that case number that can 1998 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.159 be audited, and then they'll see individually which. 1999 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:43.600 Is that match stuf. 2000 01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:46.479 There's no like mass bulk of like let me just 2001 01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.079 see every single image today and then put that on 2002 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:50.600 a thumb drive type of situation. 2003 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:53.640 It's related to a case. 2004 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:54.239 Every single time. 2005 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:57.720 Sure, and then follow up questions, sorry for this is 2006 01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:02.239 for Martlesville. What are the criteria that we select to 2007 01:45:02.760 --> 01:45:04.039 decide who we share data with? 2008 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:09.840 Like if for some reason there was like a men's 2009 01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:11.359 Facebook group and on the Facebook and. 2010 01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:13.720 All the police decisions were like, oh hey, we're gonna 2011 01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:15.439 set all of our flocked settings to this and now 2012 01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:17.520 we're instantly sharing to all five thousand people. 2013 01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:22.119 How would that work? 2014 01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:24.479 Is that or something like no, we've got to approve 2015 01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:27.800 if New York City wants to see our flock data. 2016 01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:30.760 So it instantly, like you said earlier, it goes back 2017 01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:33.680 to our settings. If it was up to me, I 2018 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:37.239 would share with all five thousand agencies automatically, because in 2019 01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:40.680 December ninth, I didn't know that a sixteen year old's 2020 01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:41.920 gonna be taken to the little ratum. 2021 01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:44.159 December eleventh, I did. 2022 01:45:44.640 --> 01:45:47.560 So to have the foresight to know that I need 2023 01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:50.439 a network and already share with that agency define what's 2024 01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:53.680 relevant to our case would be impossible. But okay, it's 2025 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.760 your question. We have preferences to set that could be 2026 01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:59.399 in state only, that could be set to a perimeter 2027 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:02.199 of fifty mins two hundred and fifty miles five hundred miles, 2028 01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:06.239 and when the next agency or the next network has 2029 01:46:06.319 --> 01:46:10.880 their preference that automatically matches ours, they automatically start to share. Sure, 2030 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:12.960 and you said that your default would be shared with 2031 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.800 everybody no matter what. If it was completely up to me, okay, 2032 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:18.079 it would just want und to check. So currently we're 2033 01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:20.760 sharing with one hundred and eleven agencies or one hundred 2034 01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:24.800 and twelve agencies. And essentially, if we know that an 2035 01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:28.239 investigation would be good to another agency that we're not 2036 01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:31.800 sharing with, we can request share with that agency directly. 2037 01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:37.319 Yes, right, And so for those one hundred eleven agencies 2038 01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:41.079 that your department is sharing with, anytime one of their 2039 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:44.119 users searches your data, it's the same exact process they 2040 01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:46.199 have to enter in a case number as well or 2041 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:48.880 reason code. And it's that there's an audit tool that 2042 01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:51.920 your department has that lets them filtered by their your 2043 01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:55.239 department and outside agencies and cross preference right for any 2044 01:46:55.319 --> 01:46:58.199 potential missies. So that's also important to know as well. 2045 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.000 So everything in the system, it's your police department or 2046 01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:02.960 the other police department, is audible. 2047 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:10.560 Dost tasting. 2048 01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:13.279 Just a couple of questions to kind of a follow 2049 01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:16.560 up on that that one so appreciate you putting up 2050 01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:18.239 that transparency. 2051 01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:21.000 Website for Bartlesville. 2052 01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.880 Get indicated there that you can tell or we can 2053 01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:26.439 tell how many. 2054 01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.600 Times it's being accessed maybe not by who, but how 2055 01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:31.399 many times. 2056 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:34.119 It's being accessed for Bartlesville surveillance data. 2057 01:47:35.319 --> 01:47:39.560 Can you also see when those external entities the other 2058 01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:42.760 one hundred and eleven are accessing your data? Will we 2059 01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.439 see that on that transparency website. 2060 01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:47.039 I don't believe the citizens do. 2061 01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:49.119 I don't spend a lot of time on the citizens 2062 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:50.520 side of the audit. 2063 01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:53.079 But I don't internalie we can't, okay. 2064 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:58.000 So if someone somewhere else is doing something nefarious or 2065 01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:00.960 not you you won't know it. 2066 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:06.840 So you can and that the report there, it'll show. 2067 01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:10.079 It doesn't show you officer names obviously for privacy and 2068 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:14.479 investigative purposes, but that list is providing you internal and 2069 01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:17.920 external just searches right, that are happening. So that's an 2070 01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:20.600 important piece. And then from an audit perspective, and I 2071 01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:22.039 don't want to be for the department, I believe in 2072 01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:24.520 your policy you will be auditing out of frequency as 2073 01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.119 it every month, so they are able to then go 2074 01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:32.319 with their audit and check both sides, right, you know, 2075 01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:34.600 or all searches, so that that's something that they will 2076 01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:35.880 do by policy. 2077 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:38.000 Okay, But there's not a report. 2078 01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:39.680 If someone in sky took. 2079 01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:43.680 Where his mind tag where, you won't know it until 2080 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:44.479 you run that audit. 2081 01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:45.560 At some point. 2082 01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:49.720 He will know if if if if that if you 2083 01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:50.680 run once he runs. 2084 01:48:50.520 --> 01:48:53.760 That audit, and if there's a misuse for whatever reason 2085 01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:54.960 they will be able. 2086 01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:55.399 To follow up. 2087 01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:58.199 Okay, all right, and then just to follow the second 2088 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:00.720 question and think just for the for they on this one. 2089 01:49:01.039 --> 01:49:05.359 So to get location data on one of these, you 2090 01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:11.399 need a warrant. Well is it pisen? 2091 01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:11.880 They stand up? 2092 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:12.520 I need sit down. 2093 01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:16.640 It pays on where it's off. I could that phone 2094 01:49:16.680 --> 01:49:19.199 your hand yessers, because it's in your hands, yourman, your 2095 01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:22.239 personal property. If it was to like AT and T 2096 01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:24.560 or veriety something like that, we'd have to see this 2097 01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:26.760 search warn't to AT and T or Verizon. 2098 01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:31.920 Okay, okay, So my question is at what point does 2099 01:49:32.199 --> 01:49:37.720 a the flock camera systems end up being this Because 2100 01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:41.000 this right here tracks me wherever I go, but. 2101 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:42.720 I can leave it at home, but I can't take 2102 01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:43.800 the tag off my vehicle. 2103 01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:48.039 Right However, they've kind of decided that this thing right 2104 01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:51.039 here is like a GPS. You're carrying a GPS around 2105 01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:53.239 with it, and if you've got thirty days worth of 2106 01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:57.239 data and you've got my tag number, you can tell where. 2107 01:49:57.039 --> 01:49:58.439 I've been for thirty days. 2108 01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:00.479 How is that different than this right here? 2109 01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:03.600 Well, I would I would say, don't go tell everybody 2110 01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:06.399 that's the phones. Okay, yes, your phones guys turned on. 2111 01:50:07.039 --> 01:50:09.039 But as far as we can't tell you everywhere what 2112 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:11.119 serece where you're going. It's just like if you've gone 2113 01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:14.079 by those ten cameras, you know, not everywhere you've been. 2114 01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:17.079 And as far as when it gets to that point, 2115 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:18.960 I think it comes to total survey. It's like if 2116 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:22.399 we had like five hundred cameras across Bartlesville and more 2117 01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:24.880 of Washington County and I can tell where everybody was 2118 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:27.359 at at all times, not me, but whoever's. 2119 01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:27.560 In the system. 2120 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:30.239 I think we get there is a point where it's 2121 01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:33.800 like too too much, right, ten cameras, I don't even 2122 01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:37.000 get there. But again it goes back to the constitutional 2123 01:50:37.079 --> 01:50:39.039 law too under on the tag, it's on the back 2124 01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.319 of your vehicle, playing to you the expectation of privacy. 2125 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:45.520 So they answer your question, Thanks sir, About. 2126 01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:46.479 Five minutes left. 2127 01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:51.159 Okay, I'll make my foot I had you mentioned earlier, 2128 01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:54.119 you guys that flock doesn't have access to the data. 2129 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:55.960 Is that what you said? 2130 01:50:56.479 --> 01:50:59.079 Yeah, the dida's owned by Bartlesville PD. We do not 2131 01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:00.680 have access to sellers. 2132 01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:07.479 Okay, so earlier the I just have a question of clarification. 2133 01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:11.000 I guess earlier the chief said before we had access to. 2134 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:13.760 The cameras, that there was the murder, and they called 2135 01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.159 up the rep that was selling the Flock cameras and 2136 01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:19.319 they were being the system to find out the cars 2137 01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:22.239 were up in Kansas. So I guess my question is 2138 01:51:23.640 --> 01:51:27.159 how did we do that? And b is so Flock 2139 01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:31.000 representative going to use our data to sells to another community? 2140 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:34.000 Yeah? So that Flock representative was a retired officer from 2141 01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:34.840 which Tall PD. 2142 01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:37.119 He himself did not run the cameras. 2143 01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:41.239 He actually got us our detectives in contact with a 2144 01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:44.439 law enforcement agency, out of which Tall they ran the 2145 01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:45.159 cameras for us. 2146 01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:51.359 Okay, thinking, wow, I got you got a question for that? 2147 01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:57.319 Yes, sir, just starting it says in McLean County, Oklahoma, 2148 01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:01.319 State of Oklahoma versus i'llivet bar out suppressed the un 2149 01:52:02.279 --> 01:52:08.199 license plate scanner evidence, citing Oklahoma's legal prohibition of the technology. 2150 01:52:11.079 --> 01:52:13.800 So I do another question gonna come up tonight. I 2151 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:16.600 actually talked to the prosecutor about if I went thirty 2152 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.319 today about that case. Here's what happened in that that 2153 01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:21.720 McLean County case. That's a district court case. Okay, So 2154 01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:24.199 carry is no way anywhere in the world except for 2155 01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:27.760 that one case in McLean County, which is south of Norman, Okay. 2156 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.479 What happened was they're trying to get the image of 2157 01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:35.680 that vehicle from LPR into aquiminent case. The judge said 2158 01:52:36.359 --> 01:52:39.520 that they seem to think wrongly decided that you vet 2159 01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:42.880 statue his decision. But guess what the pictures came in 2160 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:46.119 in that case anyway, So that didn't get a chance. 2161 01:52:46.239 --> 01:52:48.079 Let me finish up real quick though. Yeah, so that 2162 01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:50.720 that didn't get a chance to be appealed. So we'll 2163 01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:52.800 never know the answer on that case that that was 2164 01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.680 right or not for that for the vet reason under 2165 01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:59.880 g because the pictures came anyway, God's gone guilty of trial, 2166 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:02.760 it's going to be the state can't appeal that until 2167 01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.840 the trials are state one, so defending gets to appealed that. 2168 01:53:06.079 --> 01:53:09.880 So I'm not referring to the specific case. I'm referring 2169 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:15.239 to the state of Oklahoma prohimoty the use. It's been 2170 01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:19.640 tried also through Tulsa, through the Mayor of Tulsa, that 2171 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:23.000 you cannot that it's illegal to use these cameras in 2172 01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:25.039 the state of Oklahoma. Who said that in the state 2173 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:29.479 of Oklahoma, Representative again put this on his sites. 2174 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:32.960 Yeah, he had. He had a whole form and a 2175 01:53:33.039 --> 01:53:37.119 study done about this. Risid of Gan thinks that one 2176 01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:39.840 person thinks that it says. 2177 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:45.239 That it was citing Oklahoma was legal prohibition of the technology. 2178 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:46.199 That's what I was asking. 2179 01:53:46.399 --> 01:53:50.359 He must be citing Gee. I've feen on YouTube a 2180 01:53:50.359 --> 01:53:53.920 little bit again the internet, you know, but he cites 2181 01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:56.800 this McClain. I don't know risardive Gan at all. 2182 01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:57.359 I don't know the man. 2183 01:53:57.359 --> 01:53:59.399 It's probably great dude, I don't know him. But he 2184 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:02.520 cites the McLean County case quite a bit. But again 2185 01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:05.720 it didn't go anywhere because all because they had just 2186 01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:09.920 came a different way, right, So I believe faist to him, 2187 01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.560 he's citing that g But we kind of talked about it. 2188 01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:15.279 It's only as to the ubed cameras that those seventy 2189 01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:17.000 eight cameras have to be used along for the U 2190 01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:17.640 beat system. 2191 01:54:18.119 --> 01:54:19.760 So I don't know. 2192 01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:23.079 I think may be incorrect about that, but I think 2193 01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:25.159 we're gonna find out for sure legislator this year. But 2194 01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.239 he did an internal study that they talked all about this. 2195 01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:31.159 It's quite an interesting watch on the internet, you'll, Washington. 2196 01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:33.520 So I have to show you the other because it 2197 01:54:33.720 --> 01:54:37.319 hasn't study information also and it also has some other references. 2198 01:54:38.119 --> 01:54:40.079 The other question that I had is could you go 2199 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:42.359 into a little bit more as far as the funding 2200 01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:42.680 for this. 2201 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:44.640 Where's the funds coming from? 2202 01:54:44.960 --> 01:54:47.960 So the city council in the city of Barsoo pays 2203 01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:50.279 for nine of the cameras. As Chief Michael Berry said, 2204 01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:52.399 I paid for one of the cameras through a drug 2205 01:54:52.479 --> 01:54:53.840 fund forfeiture assets. 2206 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.920 And part of the funds from for our cameras came 2207 01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:03.600 from ceased property from from all all kinds of different 2208 01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:06.640 cases that we had in the avidage room. So we 2209 01:55:07.159 --> 01:55:10.960 uh sold that off for traders. I think we we've 2210 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.319 traded into some of that off. Anyhow, we got we 2211 01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:16.920 got funds back for that and that helped fund this project. 2212 01:55:17.359 --> 01:55:20.079 This was not part of the budget that initially. 2213 01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:24.760 To carry down. We would be a budget em Yes, 2214 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:26.520 unless we. 2215 01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:29.600 Get sponsors, and there's likely we could get sponsors such 2216 01:55:29.640 --> 01:55:35.199 as mister Drake right one time, he says, one time 2217 01:55:35.239 --> 01:55:39.560 we end up men one time a year. All right, 2218 01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:42.439 it's eight o'clock. We're gonna wrap things up. We really 2219 01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:45.039 do appreciate you all coming out. We've we had forms 2220 01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:46.680 every I'm sorry, we. 2221 01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:51.039 Got one more. Okay, uh uh. We have we have 2222 01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:53.640 forums on hot topics to it with a police department 2223 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:56.039 a QUI. Regularly we invite you guys to come back 2224 01:55:56.119 --> 01:55:57.199 for those We've. 2225 01:55:57.039 --> 01:55:59.359 Had one for the homeless problem. We've had one for 2226 01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:03.319 fend are the final forms other issues with it. We'll 2227 01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:06.159 have the neighborhood meetings where we are your neighborhood and 2228 01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:08.239 ask you to tell us what your problems are. 2229 01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:14.760 We have citizens do that. We appreciate that. We want 2230 01:56:14.840 --> 01:56:17.039 to police the city in Borlsville. 2231 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:18.079 The best we can, and the way we do that 2232 01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:21.199 is get feedback from the people that come to our forms. 2233 01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:24.359 So thanks for being here tonight. I know the city 2234 01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:25.720 council appreciates it as well. 2235 01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:31.560 And mister Kirkpatrick, first, I want to say thank you 2236 01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:32.640 to everybody who's come. 2237 01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:33.880 This is a hot topic with. 2238 01:56:35.359 --> 01:56:38.439 Serious things at stake, and then it makes me happy 2239 01:56:38.479 --> 01:56:40.560 to see that our communities have engaged in this and 2240 01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:42.840 I appreciate you guys being a part of this as well, 2241 01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:44.560 because it is not easy to stand in. 2242 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:46.600 Front of a remove people who are concerned with high 2243 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:50.560 emotions and respond and listen to those things. I think 2244 01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:55.600 this question is probably more for our flock representatives. I've 2245 01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:57.760 approached this with the question I kind of called the 2246 01:56:58.119 --> 01:57:02.239 ex boyfriend problem. We saw this, I guess in Kansas 2247 01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:05.199 that there was an officer who was caught basically stalking 2248 01:57:05.239 --> 01:57:05.960 an ex girlfriend. 2249 01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:07.720 It's the jilted lever issue. 2250 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:09.560 We've seen this at the NSA level, so we've seen 2251 01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:10.319 at the federal level. 2252 01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:15.239 But this is now doing thisipal level. What protections are 2253 01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:15.640 in place? 2254 01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:17.760 I don't know if the software thing isn't only an 2255 01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:22.600 accountability with you know, city council, city management kind of stuff. 2256 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:25.960 How do we solve for the ex boyfriend problem to 2257 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:28.239 make sure that this isn't abused at the very intimate 2258 01:57:28.359 --> 01:57:28.880 levels like that. 2259 01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:33.319 Yeah, and for the community. This case that you're talking about, 2260 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:34.159 there was a case. 2261 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:39.119 Outside of which it's a catchy Kansas where an officer 2262 01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:43.039 abused the system. He went in and searched for his 2263 01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:48.239 ex girlfriend. That's a felony, right, he is being adjudicated 2264 01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:50.399 for that. But what was in place there was a 2265 01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:52.000 couple of things that are places that are really important 2266 01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:55.640 from the system's perspective. There's an audit tool in place 2267 01:57:56.359 --> 01:57:59.880 that allowed law enforcement to catch the misuse. 2268 01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:04.640 No case number that is matched, why is this vehicle 2269 01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:05.359 being searched. 2270 01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:09.560 From a policy perspective, which I'm really glad the council's here. 2271 01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:13.800 If honestly we go to communities throughout the country, it's 2272 01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:15.800 very seldom is it more than a dozen people. So 2273 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:18.479 and I really truly mean that it's great when the 2274 01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:20.560 public has the ability to provide input. 2275 01:58:21.039 --> 01:58:21.560 And so from a. 2276 01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:25.000 Policy perspective, is ensuring that the police department has instituted 2277 01:58:25.359 --> 01:58:27.800 that audit that they're following that. I think some of 2278 01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:30.359 the best practices that I've seen is that they're providing 2279 01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:31.960 that it's just as an agenda as part of your 2280 01:58:32.039 --> 01:58:34.479 agenda item rank. It's there for the council to see 2281 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:37.840 as the elected officials. It's on the transparency portal. So 2282 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:41.119 that's one way. And then you know, looking at what 2283 01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:46.560 uses reflect community values, which the department here has talked about, 2284 01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:50.199 right solving serious crimes, burglaries, etc. 2285 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:52.760 And so I think from a policy perspective, those are 2286 01:58:52.760 --> 01:58:53.439 things to think about. 2287 01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:56.199 But then from the systems perspective is can you catch 2288 01:58:56.279 --> 01:58:58.840 any misuse and that's what we've done, and can you reduce. 2289 01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:02.239 Risk by having that limited retention? 2290 01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:02.680 Right? 2291 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:06.000 And so that's where why we build the system that 2292 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:11.439 in that way, okay? 2293 01:59:11.479 --> 01:59:12.880 Is that it all right? 2294 01:59:13.439 --> 01:59:19.840 Mayor Pika Chief and UH, I certainly have a uh 2295 01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:23.520 mister Kirkpatrick's uh as sentiments and no, mister uh Dorsey 2296 01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:27.159 and uh mister Rees appreciate uh the public's input tonight. 2297 01:59:27.279 --> 01:59:27.920 It's important. 2298 01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:30.239 UH you know, these are important decisions we make. 2299 01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:32.960 Appreciate a police department being here with a poor fright 2300 01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:35.479 discussion for the public and uh trying to answer all 2301 01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:36.520 the questions that are out there. 2302 01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:37.600 And we've got a lot of. 2303 01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:38.720 Questions answered tonight. 2304 01:59:38.960 --> 01:59:39.640 I know there's more. 2305 01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:42.920 You've got a website you can you can boast your 2306 01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:45.399 me you can post questions on and we'll try to 2307 01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:48.119 get those answers to you. So with that, I'm gonna 2308 01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:50.760 adjourn our city portion of the meeting tonight and thank 2309 01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:51.960 everybody again for coming out. 2310 01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:52.319 Thank you,