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It's a lot remember 16 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,000 sharing subscribes on the side. 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: But you can all tell. 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,599 Speaker 1: If you've got the guns and you want to explore, 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,840 I'm told it's what you're looking for. 20 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:35,359 Speaker 3: Ellis the ghost to all that's unseen until me on 21 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 network where the world's mystery. 22 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 5: Don't boom boom stop stop stop stom stop Snowy Stone 23 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,719 Stop Stone Stoll STOs. 24 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:04,319 Speaker 6: Good morning everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of 25 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,080 the Paranormal Spectrum here on the Untold Radio Network. I 26 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:13,159 am your host, Barnaby Jones from Cryptids, Anomalies and the 27 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,599 Paranormal Society. We have a wonderful guest waiting backstage today 28 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:22,919 to entertain and enlighten all of us. But first before 29 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,879 we get to that, if you guys want to come 30 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,159 out and meet myself in person, we are just a 31 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:33,560 couple days oh way here from Contact Modalities Expo May 32 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,439 first through the third in Delavan, Wisconsin. It is going 33 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:41,520 to be a great event, three days of all kinds 34 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,400 of sound, resonance, vibration and frequency and fun stuff there. 35 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:48,719 Trey Hudson is going to be my guest next week 36 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,719 on the show. He is going to be one of 37 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,680 your entertainers for that weekend, along with Jayba Chochin, Jack Chavez, 38 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,639 Zach Screedy, all been part of our show in the past, 39 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,080 as well well as fellow Untold Radio host Dean Bertram 40 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,639 will be there doing a presentation. So it's going to 41 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,159 be a great event. If you guys want to meet 42 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,400 any of these awesome people come on out check it out. 43 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,599 And then guys, of course, we have the Cryptids, Anomalies 44 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,879 and Paranormal Convention Saturday, May ninth in Fondilac, Wisconsin. Over 45 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,639 twenty speakers and workshops and forty vendors for your shopping pleasure. 46 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,879 All kicking off Friday afternoon, we have a Kid's Bigfoot 47 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:34,639 Expedition Lauren Smith, Chris McCrary and myself from the CAPS team. 48 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:37,240 Kelly will not be able to make it though, but 49 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,000 we'll be going out in the woods teaching your kids 50 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,319 how to safely look for bigfoot, things to look for 51 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,439 and stuff to get them motivated and started on their 52 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,639 cryptid hunting journeys. And for the more venturous, Lauren, Chris, myself, Jaybachochin, 53 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,879 Ken Gerhart, Larry Eisler, and Christina Bloom will be leading 54 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,639 the evening Bigfoot expedition as well. Kinds of stuff to 55 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,959 kick off this weekend May eighth and ninth. Then guys, 56 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,720 we head down Chicago for the Chicago Paranormal Convention Saturday 57 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,399 June thirteenth in Countryside, Illinois. Then I will be at 58 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,759 the Brownsville Library June seventeenth, the Cedarberg Library July twenty 59 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:27,000 second Potographs Packerland Paranormal Conference September twenty sixth in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 60 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,240 The Ryle Community Library October twenty eighth, and the Belleville 61 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:36,279 Public Library October thirtieth, right before Halloween, to talk all 62 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:40,639 about UFOs and UAP disclosure. Gonna be a fun rest 63 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,480 of the year here, guys, but now we have some 64 00:05:43,639 --> 00:06:03,399 fun with our guests. So, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, 65 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,199 my guest is Ann Seline. She is an author, researcher, 66 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:11,720 and psychological essayist devoted to exploring the unseen architecture of 67 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,680 the human experience. Her work lives at the crossroads of 68 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:21,879 trauma and transformation, folklore and neuroscience, ancestral memory, and modern mysticism, 69 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:27,839 with a background steeped in cycle psychology, metaphysics, and historical inquiry, 70 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:32,240 and brings a rare synthesis to her writing, infusing poetic 71 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,800 insight and academic curiosity. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome and 72 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,600 to the show, and how you doing. 73 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: I'm wonderful. Thank you so much for having me here. 74 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:45,759 Speaker 6: It's an honor, it is my pleasure. So I have 75 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,879 heard so much about you and I'm excited to finally 76 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:50,959 get a chance to talk to you and see all 77 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,399 the stuff that you've worked on. And I was looking 78 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:56,879 into kind of your website and stuff and all kinds 79 00:06:56,879 --> 00:07:05,560 of stuff here, so modern mysticism and folklore, and it's 80 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,160 very ambitious. That's what you are. 81 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,879 Speaker 4: Yes, well, I mean I'm a writer at heart. I 82 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,240 love writing, and so it's. 83 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,439 Speaker 7: One of those things where I'm also I consider myself 84 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,079 an eternal student, and I just love learning. So of 85 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,120 course the more that I learn, the more that I 86 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,639 can write, and I get excited to share. And then 87 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:28,240 one thing leads to another leads to another, and. 88 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: Here we are. 89 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:32,639 Speaker 6: You are never too old to stop learning. 90 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,879 Speaker 4: Exactly well, you have? 91 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:38,079 Speaker 6: You have written a couple of things here. I want 92 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:39,879 to start out with the first one. I believe this 93 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,279 is a republish of your book. Correct, Yes, it is so. 94 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 7: Originally it was called Aperture in the Veil Diaries of 95 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:53,399 Lydianne born in Preternational World, and I really wanted to 96 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,920 republish it so that way it was more it was 97 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,040 easier to understand that this was more of a memoir 98 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,600 of my whole life, all the experiences that I've had 99 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,680 since my very earliest memories. This one goes all the 100 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,959 way up into I think twenty twenty one, and then 101 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,879 there will be another book that I'm writing on that 102 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:19,439 will pick up from twenty twenty two until the current point. 103 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:24,480 So yeah, so this one, this one was definitely my love. 104 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:29,000 My children inspired me to write it because I think 105 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,440 that it's important for other experiencers to understand that we're 106 00:08:32,519 --> 00:08:33,080 not alone. 107 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,799 Speaker 6: Very interesting Well, so you you must have had a 108 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:43,039 very very interesting life to have memoirs of spirits and signs. 109 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,759 On the second side, let's let's start off with your 110 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:53,159 your a medium, right, I mean, I don't know how 111 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,759 to answer that. 112 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,039 Speaker 7: I mean, so it's one of those things where I 113 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 started going to what was known as healing group when 114 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,360 I I was fifteen years old, and what we were 115 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,480 doing was we were learning reiki, and so I had 116 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:08,039 started getting my reiki attunements, and I became a reiki 117 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,519 master when I was about twenty three. 118 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: So I was attending this from the time I was 119 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,519 fifteen until my late twenties, and. 120 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,639 Speaker 7: There were a lot of different things that happened that 121 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:27,120 I experienced intuitively that turned out to be correct, you know, 122 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,360 And then I learned how to read different tarot. 123 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: Cards and ruins and bones and all these things, and 124 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,840 it was so much fun. 125 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:41,039 Speaker 7: So I have the abilities. I would say, I'm tuned 126 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,879 into my intuition. But do I want to wear the 127 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,799 label of medium. I don't know, because I'm also not 128 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:57,799 actively practicing trying to channel anybody for anybody or anything 129 00:09:57,919 --> 00:09:58,080 like that. 130 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, so I don't. I don't want to pry 131 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:07,320 to you deep into anything that you don't want to 132 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,799 talk about here, but it's all good. So how did 133 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,440 you why did you get started in the reiki courses 134 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,159 to begin with? What? Where did this all start back? 135 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,200 How did you kind of fall in gosh cycle of learning? 136 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:26,399 Speaker 4: Let's see, I have to remember my dad had. 137 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:33,279 Speaker 7: My dad had pancreatitis, and I think that happened. First 138 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:36,519 he was in the hospital. We didn't know if he 139 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:37,279 was going to make it. 140 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: And then I got a part time job after school. 141 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:46,360 He came home and I can't remember how long it 142 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,000 was after he came home, but he he met somebody 143 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,960 and he was like, so I've I've been seeing I 144 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,879 have a new friend. It wasn't a romantic situation, but 145 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,960 he had this new friend Trishia, and she had this 146 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,840 healing group and so he was around sunsets and so 147 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,559 he was like, if you would like to. 148 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 7: Go, then you are more than welcome to kind of 149 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,399 see what we're doing. So I was like, okay, So 150 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,360 you know, I went and I it was different because 151 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,480 there was a lot of people. They have this massage 152 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,480 table that was set out in the middle of the room, 153 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:24,919 and then they had these. 154 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: Really cool circle stones. 155 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 7: It was a whole kit though, where there was like 156 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:35,279 these different types of stones and they had different purposes. 157 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,759 Speaker 4: But these little circle stones were all the colors of 158 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:39,279 the rainbow. 159 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 7: And then they were to go around the healing table 160 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,919 and then you know, everybody would take turns and you could, 161 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,720 you know, put hands above the person and. 162 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: Channel the ricky energy. And I loved it. 163 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 7: It just it, I don't know, it felt familiar, it 164 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:02,759 felt comfortable, and so of course I wanted to continue going. 165 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: With my father. And I loved Tricia. 166 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,799 Speaker 7: She ended up becoming like a second mom to me, 167 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,080 and you know, I had a what was called an 168 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,200 angel reading from her, and so she did my taro. 169 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:19,759 We talked one on one and ever since then it 170 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,639 was like, okay, like this this feels like what I'm 171 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,720 supposed to be doing. 172 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: So I stuck with it and. 173 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,039 Speaker 6: There cool. Okay, So you didn't really have like an 174 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,399 interest or anything in this stuff prior to that. It 175 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,840 was just kind of you got led into this meeting, 176 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,559 and that's where the spawned at all. 177 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,879 Speaker 7: When it comes to the reiki specifically, yes, I was 178 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,159 interested in like, of course, I mean I watched Unsolved 179 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,559 Mysteries and Goosebumps and are You Afraid of the Dark 180 00:12:51,639 --> 00:12:53,639 and all that kind of stuff with my grandpa. So 181 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,159 I loved all of that before any of this. And 182 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:02,200 I also found a book called Talking to Heaven, and 183 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:06,399 I can't remember who who the author is, but in 184 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,240 that book they were talking about being able to speak 185 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:15,720 to like your spirit guides or you know, a loved one, 186 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,519 and so that was really interesting to me. And I remember, 187 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,879 of course I loved Harry Houdini and we always wondered 188 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:25,879 if he was actually part of our family because we 189 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,799 share the surname. 190 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,519 Speaker 4: So you know, I was. I was interested in the spiritualist. 191 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 7: Movement trying to contact, you know, seances and everything. So 192 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,840 when my dad had come and said, hey, there's this 193 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,960 healing group. It's reiki that was completely foreign to what 194 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,360 I was, you know, really used to. So I was 195 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,960 interested for sure. And and something miraculous too. On my 196 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:01,600 father's journey, he had diabetes and his health was pretty bad, 197 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,759 and he had received a healing that ended up curing 198 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,519 his diabetes and he's never never dealt with it since. 199 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: And the doctors were baffled and everything, and so it 200 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,000 was just I saw some things during my time that 201 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,279 it was just it was incredible. 202 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,279 Speaker 6: Very interesting, very interesting. So did you ever discover if 203 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,000 you're related to Harry Houdini. 204 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:27,799 Speaker 4: No, I have not. I don't think so. 205 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,759 Speaker 7: Our family comes from bess Arabia, so where the Germans 206 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,960 from the Black Sea region, so it was considered I 207 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,159 think Prussia back then. 208 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: I think that we're from a different village. Then. 209 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 7: I don't think that his family ever actually ended up 210 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:46,679 in bess Arabia, so it's a different line. 211 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 6: I grew up in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is maybe famous 212 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,480 infamous for Harry Houdini. 213 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: We have the. 214 00:14:57,759 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 6: Right there. 215 00:14:58,519 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: I need to go. 216 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: Fifteen minutes from me right now. 217 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: Really, Oh man, that's awesome. 218 00:15:06,279 --> 00:15:08,799 Speaker 6: It's a it's a little castle kind of thing looking, 219 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:09,559 Oh wow. 220 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,799 Speaker 4: But yeah, we have very cool. 221 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 6: Every October, every Halloween they do a seance for Harry Houdini. 222 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:20,639 Really he was supposed to come forward on Halloween and 223 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:23,600 prove that he was from the life and all that stuff, 224 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,799 and so yeah, they do. They have a Who Needy 225 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:29,679 Plaza down there and it's got a big statue and 226 00:15:29,679 --> 00:15:32,120 stuff dedicated to him and everything, and they do a 227 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:32,720 whole I. 228 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:34,759 Speaker 4: Had no idea about. That's great. 229 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: See, that's what happens when you grew up in that time. 230 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,399 I know anything about it either, but. 231 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: Very cool. 232 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,399 Speaker 6: So yeah, and like you said, he was big into 233 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,039 the spiritual movement and stuff like trying to disprove all 234 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,799 these mediums and that they were all fake and that 235 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,639 was part of his whole thing, you know, being a magician, 236 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,519 you know, for people for a living and then trying 237 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,240 to disprove all the stuff and all that as well. 238 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,960 So that's fair. Yeah, it was a fascinating time then, 239 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:08,600 So you you kind of grew up interested in the 240 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:09,600 spiritualist movement. 241 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:10,559 Speaker 4: I did. 242 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 7: I did from watching different documentaries and then just the 243 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:17,639 influence from you know, the scary stories and stuff, and 244 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 then you know, it was the Pacific Northwest as well, 245 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,480 so we had Sasquatch, and my family told stories about 246 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,919 experiences they had with rock throwing and all of that. 247 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: So there was definitely a belief system from when I 248 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:31,919 was really little. 249 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,879 Speaker 6: That's awesome. So you grew up with the stories of bigfoot, yes, yes. 250 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,639 Speaker 4: And what's really interesting though, is that there are stories 251 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:45,000 of little feet. 252 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:47,919 Speaker 7: I don't know what they're called. I can't remember. I 253 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,559 knew it once, I don't remember it now. But when 254 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,159 I was really little, I was so my parents were 255 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,159 rock hounders, fishermen, all that stuff. So we went into 256 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,960 the Tellmuk forest and they were doing their rock cand 257 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,720 and I remember saying to my dad. 258 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: I was like, what is this And he's like what 259 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,599 I said this? And there was this little footprint that 260 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:11,240 had to have been It looked like it was like 261 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:14,640 a six year old but it was like little human. 262 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, just like mine. And he's like, oh, 263 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,680 that's the little people, and I was like oh, and 264 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:24,640 then we just like continued walking. 265 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:26,039 Speaker 4: Like it was no big deal. 266 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,039 Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's just the little people. 267 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:32,759 Speaker 4: Don't worry about Yeah, yeah, exactly. 268 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:34,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 269 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,519 Speaker 6: One of the strangest things, like I've I've encountered a 270 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,359 lot of weird things out in the woods and stuff. 271 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,319 Since I've started doing caps on that. But one of 272 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,400 the weirdest things was up and Upper Michigan. We were 273 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,880 on the Heightened Adventure property where we did a lot 274 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,319 of research and we came across a footprint about I 275 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,799 would say maybe inch and a half two inches long. Ah, 276 00:17:57,519 --> 00:18:04,680 and it was a bootprint. Oh wow, yeah. I mean 277 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Craig had you know, you know, granddaughters and stuff like that, 278 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,680 but they're too old for this. And where we found 279 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,000 the print was on the driveway in. It was all 280 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:19,279 like on the embankment to the little gravel road that 281 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,880 drove in and this this gravel road is over a 282 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,480 half mile long, so it's anybody would have stopped got 283 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:27,480 out and you know, had a little kid running around 284 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:31,240 out there. And besides, two inches long is not you know, 285 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,079 but it had had tread and a heel and it 286 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,359 was a boot in the ground. So wow, no idea, 287 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,559 no idea how that happened. 288 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,799 Speaker 4: But interesting, very cool. 289 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:48,559 Speaker 6: I don't know how many little little bigfoots and stuff 290 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,240 running around with. 291 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:51,799 Speaker 4: I've never heard of that. 292 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 6: No, No, we have all the stories of like the 293 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:58,519 puck wedgies and features like that, you know, out on 294 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,240 the East coast and that so I don't know, you 295 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,480 never your parents or grandparents never said anything more about 296 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:08,480 like these creatures or you know why they knew what 297 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:10,720 they were, any of the folklore or anything of them. 298 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,799 Speaker 4: No, Nope, it was just it was just part of life, 299 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,480 you know what I mean. 300 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 7: It was just one of those things where it's like, well, 301 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:20,440 that's you know, bigfoots out there and there's these little 302 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,359 people out there. 303 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: And that's just how it is. 304 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 6: So how many generations removed because you said you came 305 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,079 from like Prussia and stuff originally, how many generations was that, 306 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 Like your grandfather came from there or before that, or. 307 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 7: Oh it was my great great grandfather who came over. 308 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:45,640 So my great grandfather, I can't remember if he was 309 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:50,839 born the year that we that they landed or before, 310 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,920 but you know, so, you know, they so they all 311 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,400 spoke German. So great Grandpa didn't speak English until he 312 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,000 was around ten years old, and then my grandfather he 313 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:07,599 spoke English fluently, and by the time that my dad 314 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:10,400 was born, he only knew you know, like a couple 315 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:15,680 German words. But there was a lot of you know, 316 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,839 a lot of very h a lot of pride and 317 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,400 their heritage and everything, because they're very unique. Because the 318 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:27,160 area it's called alt Rz's it was a little town 319 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,279 and the border was was changing a lot between Moldova 320 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,480 and Ukraine during this time, and so we had the 321 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,960 influence from Moldova, Ukraine, Poland, German Russian and so it 322 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,880 was just this melting pot and you know, the clothing 323 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,559 and the food and the you know, everything, it was 324 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,920 just it's a beautiful, you know, and very unique as well. 325 00:20:55,079 --> 00:21:00,640 So there's like a Germans from Russia Heritage project that is, 326 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,400 you know, to help keep that memory alive because it 327 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,920 was so specific. 328 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 6: Interesting. So did they did you like, grew up with 329 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,519 any stories and stuff from over there? Liked it because 330 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,240 over over in Europe and stuff, there's so much rich 331 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,119 history with fairies and all the folklore and stuff over there. 332 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 7: But well, I had Crampus, so I did have Grandpas. 333 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,599 I remember my dad telling me about him. And my 334 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,440 dad he was a big he's so he put on 335 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:42,400 the biggest paper shows in the Pacific Northwest of selling 336 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,720 antique paper, postcards, magazines, photographs. 337 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: Ten types, you know, all that kind of thing. 338 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 7: And he you have a different section for each box, 339 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,279 of cards, so you might have topicals, and in your 340 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:00,559 topicals you might have the holidays. So of course there 341 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,599 was a Christmas section, and in the Christmas section was 342 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,000 where you found Santa Claus, but also Crampus. And so 343 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,720 I remember looking through these postcards and seeing these, you know, 344 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,079 and I remember talking to my dad about him, and 345 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,759 he know, he told me the stories about you know, 346 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,240 you better be good or he's going to. 347 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,039 Speaker 4: Put you in his basket and the whip, you know. 348 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,880 And yeah, so that was a lot of fun. 349 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,319 Speaker 7: And I was surprised actually, so when I got into 350 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,279 this community that you know, crampis really it seems like 351 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Crampus in the stories with him started taking off around 352 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,200 two thousand, I don't know, sixteen or seventeen, Like he's 353 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:43,480 now a part of our community's yearly thing. But before 354 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:45,920 that there wasn't. And I talked to other people, Oh 355 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 do you know Crampus and people say, no, who is that? 356 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,160 And so it was like, oh, wow, So I'm excited 357 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,000 that he's now like a big part. 358 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: Of things now. 359 00:22:55,799 --> 00:23:01,759 Speaker 6: It kind of Amy Amy says, I never heard of 360 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,440 Crampus still a couple of ye I thought it was 361 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,079 a movie. Yikes. Now though, Yeah, and I feel like 362 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:09,720 I had heard of it before that, and I don't 363 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:12,680 remember why, but I was I was doing a Haunted House, 364 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,839 so I think Crampis was part of like the Christmas horror. Yeah, 365 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:20,920 and right when when we were doing that in the 366 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,279 haunt industry, then the movie had come out as well. 367 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,559 Speaker 4: Oh right, right. 368 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,839 Speaker 6: I think I was like maybe like a couple of 369 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,079 months before the big wave of everyone knowing what it was. 370 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:36,720 But yeah, very interesting. Yeah, the whole uh Crampis Christmas 371 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:39,839 card thing is the thing, like that's part of the 372 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,039 whole tradition and stuff. And there Yeah, not very nice 373 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,279 Christmas cards. 374 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 375 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,799 Speaker 7: I mean, and some of them were, I mean they 376 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,319 were interesting. Some of them had women, some of them 377 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,799 had children, you know, and and but I mean Victorian 378 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,440 style Christmas cards and different postcards and stuff were pretty wild, 379 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,839 like for any of the holidays, even Easter, they have 380 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:10,440 like frogs stabbing each other and it says like happy Easter. 381 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: So yes, Amy. Amy says. Also when I was little 382 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,880 at Christmas, I did here walking around on the roof 383 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,920 and thought it was just my parents trying to pretend 384 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,519 to be Santa. But on the second thought, they would 385 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,119 not be walking around, you know, the whole you know, 386 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,440 when when we talk about Santa Claus and stuff and 387 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,279 war and stuff, you talk about like oh, the the 388 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,839 little prancing hooves of the rain up on the rooftop, 389 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:40,559 and then it brings a whole different meaning when you 390 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,519 realize that Grampus has hooves as. 391 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: Well, right right, that's awesome. 392 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: Oh man, exactly, Oh that's that's cool. I mean, I 393 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:55,880 love the whole fact of you know, different, you know, 394 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,519 like I said, around the world, you have all these 395 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,119 different folklores and mythologies and stuff. And it seems like 396 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,960 I've talked about this on the show before. You know, 397 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:06,640 you have all you know, if America is supposed to 398 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,720 be this great melting pot of cultures and stuff, it 399 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,480 hasn't seeped out as much excuse me, as it should, 400 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,440 you know, with all these different beliefs and stuff. You 401 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,000 you're we're very Americanized here, and how else to say it, 402 00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:27,839 Like we've talked about like death, you know, and how 403 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,319 around the world there's so many different you know, few 404 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,559 nearly rituals and stuff that are not the Western you know, 405 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,519 put you in a casket, bury you in the ground, 406 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:40,160 kind of stuff, right, and you know, we have this 407 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,839 very whitewashed version of death and how it works, and 408 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,400 you know, how we're supposed to believe. And you know, 409 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,640 there's a Josh Gates did this whole series on death, 410 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,599 you know, on Expedition Unknown, and I remember one standing 411 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,720 out is they have the body of their loved one, 412 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,279 lives with them for an entire year, and they bathe it, 413 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,799 they you know, have breakfast with it and stuff, and 414 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,359 then after a year then they finally parade it through 415 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,400 town and everything and your burial ceremony and you know, 416 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,960 that's that's their culture, that's what they believe and practice. 417 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,920 But here in America, I mean, like if you had 418 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,839 a dead body in your house for a year. 419 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that's true. And you know, it's one 420 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240 of those things where I think that like for my 421 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:35,440 family when we were in Bessarabia, they had forced all 422 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:39,559 the men to be in the Russian army and it was. 423 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 7: One of those things where it was like you either 424 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:43,359 join or you die, and we're going to kill your 425 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,640 whole family too. So of course we fled. And when 426 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,599 you and even to today, there's there's older family members 427 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,359 that have said, you know, we don't talk about that. 428 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,599 And then of course there's also name changes. So for instance, 429 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,279 if you have two s's at the end of your name, 430 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,039 one of the s's might drop to try to make 431 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,200 it more Americanized, you know, et cetera. 432 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: Well, along with that and trying to you. 433 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 7: Know, whether it's being afraid or whatever it is, you 434 00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:20,319 have all of your belief systems that then I think 435 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,559 it seems like people would laugh and say, oh, you're 436 00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,359 being so superstitious. I mean, I've had people laugh at 437 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,720 me and say, you know, say that as well. So 438 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,640 then over time I think that these superstitions, you know, 439 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400 just kind of like fall off and then they get lost, 440 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,200 and I think that it's really sad. You know, there's 441 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,680 one I believe it's in Ukraine and it was a 442 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,000 story of the doma Boy and the Dome of Boy 443 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,079 is this little house spirit and he. 444 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,799 Speaker 4: Helps you and everything and you leave food out for 445 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,319 it and it keeps them happy. 446 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 7: And of course if you do things that make him unhappy, 447 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,440 then he's going to mess up your house and everything. 448 00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:03,880 And I think little things like that are a lot 449 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,119 of fun, you know, and it's sad to lose those 450 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200 different practices and beliefs. 451 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,039 Speaker 6: I mean, I keep going back to it, but you know, 452 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,640 like over in my brain escaps Europe. Over in the 453 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,799 European countries and stuff, you have a lot of the 454 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160 fairy law and stuff, and that sounds very much like 455 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,240 the brownies, you know, the creatures that help you around 456 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,839 the house and you leave food and stuff. Yeah, the 457 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,559 cobbler and the elves kind of story. 458 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, exactly. 459 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:37,559 Speaker 6: When's the last time you were walking around here in 460 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,599 the United States and they talked about, you know, leaving 461 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,759 food out or milk out for the fairies or something. 462 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,640 And don't get me, I'm sure that there are still 463 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,680 people and immigrants and you know, the people that keep 464 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,039 these traditions alive, but it's not something that is as 465 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,839 commonplace as it is over in these other countries. 466 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's sad. 467 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,039 Speaker 7: I think that if we did have I mean, I 468 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,599 just see in certain communities that do still celebrate these 469 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920 things when they put stuff out, that there's such a 470 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,759 community in it and there's a connection, and I don't know, 471 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,240 it just gives a different insight to different things, and 472 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,519 it makes you think about life in this multi layer 473 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:22,000 instead of just having this tunnel vision and just kind 474 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,039 of going through your day and just focusing on the self. 475 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,359 So it would be beautiful if America could have more 476 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,359 of these things kind of rise up and practice and 477 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:33,559 connect with everybody. 478 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,599 Speaker 6: Again, have you, like run into anybody in the United 479 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480 States that does still practice any of this stuff? 480 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:47,279 Speaker 4: Not really? I mean, well it I guess, okay, if 481 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:52,359 you're talking about people that practice more of like the 482 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:57,799 nature spirituality, so like a witchcraft stuff or you know, 483 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,519 that kind of thing, then of course they do. 484 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 7: They all honor like the solstices and the equinoxes and 485 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480 all that kind of thing, and so there. 486 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,079 Speaker 4: I mean, I've met plenty of. 487 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 7: People that practice that kind of stuff, but specifically for 488 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,079 fairies or a dome of boy or you know, anything 489 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:22,000 like that brownies. I haven't that I can remember, heard 490 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,559 of anybody that actually, you know, honors them or talks 491 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:27,759 about them or anything like that. 492 00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 6: That's interesting. I mean I've I've done a lot of 493 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680 conventions and you know, I met a lot of people 494 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920 and stuff, and I don't either. I mean, like you said, 495 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,920 there's there's witchcraft and the you know, the the paganism 496 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,119 and stuff, Earthen cultures and that, but as far as 497 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,119 the creatures and stuff, I don't you don't hear too 498 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,839 much about that, So it's definitely interesting. We need more 499 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:56,359 of this, yes in the United States. Yeah, I want 500 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,079 to bring up I want to jump ahead here because 501 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:02,559 we're talking about the folklorethology and stuff, and so you 502 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,960 guys are going to be doing this mythic Ireland, Maakers, Cryptids, 503 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,039 Faye and the Unknown, and Ireland is one of the 504 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,240 main places that has a lot of this, you know, 505 00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,680 yeahary folklore and stuff like that. So tell me a 506 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,599 little bit about like the creatures and stuff. Well we'll 507 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:23,039 start a little bit about the tour and stuff, promote that, 508 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,759 and then tell me what the fay creatures and stuff 509 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,480 that you're going to talk about and go look for 510 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:28,000 in that So. 511 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 7: Of course, of course, so this is through Mysterious Adventure 512 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,119 Tours and I had the honor of actually going with 513 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:36,680 them to Ireland back. 514 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:37,599 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two. 515 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,519 Speaker 7: It was one of the most I mean, the experience 516 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,279 is going to stick with me for the rest of 517 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,559 my life and the people that I got to go 518 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400 on the tour with have definitely become family and we 519 00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:52,559 talk still all the time and share the memories and everything. 520 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,559 So I'm so excited and honored to be able to 521 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,599 go somewhere else with mysterious adventure tours. This one is 522 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,759 really special to me as well, because not only so 523 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:10,000 on my father's side was the best Arabian. On my 524 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,519 mother's side is all the Celtics, so Scottish, Irish, there's 525 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,200 some Welsh and everything. 526 00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:18,839 Speaker 4: So I actually. 527 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 7: The I mean, there's a lot of different clan names, Wallace, 528 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:32,359 ruthervan McDonald, gosh, I forget, but it's a whole list, 529 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:35,400 so I have you know, it's definitely a special place 530 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,319 in my heart. One of the stories that I love 531 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,200 the most, and something that's included are the Selkies. So 532 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,799 this is where you have the seal women. And the 533 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,799 story that I understand is that they can walk on land, 534 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,759 but they have their their pelt and if a man 535 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160 was to marry her, he would have to you know, 536 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,480 lock the pelt away and hide it from her, and 537 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:01,599 if she finds. 538 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:03,599 Speaker 4: It, then she will go back to see and never return. 539 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,960 And I just think that that's so beautiful. 540 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 7: And there are actually some tribes that believe that they 541 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,119 were descended from Selkies. Now, of course I can't remember 542 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640 the surname that's connected to that, but I know that 543 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,599 there is one. And then you have, of course the 544 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,359 Lockness Monster, which I'm really excited to go to the 545 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,319 lock and it's something that I've always you know, dreamed 546 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:33,119 of seeing, which it's just amazing to think that we'll 547 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,960 be able to be there. 548 00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,519 Speaker 4: And then there's also. 549 00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:44,039 Speaker 7: There's the Scree, which is this mothman type of creature 550 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,880 that was cited the day before Collowden Moore. So it 551 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,400 was the night so April fifteenth, and it you know, 552 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:56,519 let out this cry and I guess it was importent 553 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880 of what was to come. And you know, Colloden More 554 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,519 somewhere that we are actually going to be going. It's 555 00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:08,840 a very powerful place to be. I had ancestors that 556 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,440 fought in that, and uh so that's going to be incredible, gosh. 557 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,079 Speaker 4: And then of course the Fairy. 558 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 6: Pool, what is what I've never heard of that, okay. 559 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,679 Speaker 7: So it was a huge battle. It was a huge 560 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:30,360 battle from the Jacobites and the English and they the 561 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,079 Jacobites and everything they were slaughtered. So it really ended 562 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:40,159 the Highland Clan way of life and and things were 563 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,559 changed and never the same after that. 564 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 6: Okay, carry on there's a fairy pool. 565 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 4: Yes, the. 566 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 7: Fairy pools that are are like And this one's interesting 567 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,480 because in some of the research it talks about the 568 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:04,440 fairy pools being a place where you can kind of 569 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,719 feel the energy and the presence of the fay. But 570 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,119 then there's this other research that says that there was 571 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,719 a big battle there and that the pools turned red 572 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,599 with blood, and so then there's a darker energy to it. 573 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,159 So I'm still kind of in the middle of figuring 574 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719 all that out and seeing like, okay, so really what 575 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,840 is it. So I'm really excited to continue that research 576 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,360 and to actually be there so that way I can 577 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,800 actually feel it for myself. 578 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,519 Speaker 4: You know. 579 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 7: This is one of the things that when I went 580 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,320 to Ireland was so fascinating because I went to lept Castle. 581 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,440 Webcastle is known as one of the most haunted places 582 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,239 in the world, and you have the Bloody Chapel. So 583 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:53,760 up in this chapel there's an I'll probably botch the 584 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,199 word ot it's. 585 00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 4: This hole, yeah, with all the spikes, and then throws 586 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,400 somebody down there, and so people are like, oh my gosh, 587 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,480 it's so evil up here. 588 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 7: And there's this entity, there's this elemental and it's this 589 00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:15,639 like black looking fog that's in there, and so people 590 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,480 talk about cold chills and the feeling of unease and everything. Well, 591 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,320 when I went, it was beautiful, and so I sat there. 592 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920 I was by myself for a while as the sun 593 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,360 was setting. I was working on another book that I 594 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,840 haven't announced yet, and so I'm still in the process 595 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000 of writing that. But I wrote some of that while 596 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,119 I was sitting in the Bloody Chapel and it was 597 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,159 the most beautiful, peaceful feeling that I have ever felt. 598 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,119 Speaker 4: So but that's the thing though, So these places, I 599 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:57,079 think one of the reasons we don't always experience things. 600 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 7: The way that people say is because we all have 601 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,000 our own kind of chemistry. So if we have a 602 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,320 certain type of energy, and if we project to that 603 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,400 certain type of energy we might have, you know, really 604 00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:15,119 positive protective energy, then that's just not going to be 605 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,000 our experience. We're not maybe a magnet for that type 606 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:23,559 of experience, whereas maybe others maybe it was in their 607 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:27,079 life path to have this experience because then it changed 608 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:31,159 something within them and took them on a whole new path. So, 609 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,719 you know, so it's fascinating because just because there's a 610 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000 story about a place attached with energy and feelings in 611 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:40,280 other people's experiences. 612 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:45,559 Speaker 4: Who knows what yours will be, you know, so absolutely 613 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,199 I could. 614 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 6: I could see that very much being like on battlefields 615 00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,000 and stuff, you know, like you mentioned, you know, if 616 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,000 you if your family is related to the losing side 617 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,519 battlefield and have all the sad depression and stuff of 618 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:02,079 your people being you nerd and stuff, and then but 619 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,480 if you go there and you are on the winning side, Wow, 620 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:06,719 what a beautiful play. 621 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 7: Yeah right, exactly like that that yeah, celebratory or uplifted 622 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:16,480 type of Yeah. 623 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, the history is written by the winners. 624 00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:24,199 So yes, yes, it is definitely has like and and 625 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,480 then you know, like you said, with other energy and 626 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,039 the way that you resonate and stuff with your path, 627 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,000 you know, and it sounds like you know, like you said, 628 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,199 like growing up you may not have had the the 629 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,039 full interest in certain aspects of this stuff, but you 630 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:40,559 grew up open to it. And that's that's very important 631 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:41,880 with like a lot of the guests that I've had 632 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,559 on stuff, the difference between growing up where people or 633 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,960 their parents are like, nah, this stuff doesn't exist, it's 634 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,519 not real, and learning oh my gosh, I have these 635 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,199 gifts late in life and then trying to play catch 636 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:59,920 up versus growing up with this maybe not a encouragement 637 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,039 for it, but an openness to. 638 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: It of saying acceptance, you exist. 639 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 6: You know, and that that changes the whole. And then 640 00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:10,360 obviously you have the people that grew up in a 641 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,639 family where you have mediums and psychics and and all 642 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,239 these people that are in that the no will say whatever, 643 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,239 and you have that all the way growing up. So 644 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,760 it's it's really interesting getting to see the different ways 645 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,000 that this is affected and influenced people's journeys. 646 00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,599 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that's for sure. I agree. 647 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 6: Cool, very cool. So you you have quite a few 648 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,920 books in progress, it seems the author. I feel like 649 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:42,599 that's probably true. But you have one coming out fairly 650 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,639 soon maybe. 651 00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:45,559 Speaker 4: Yes, hopefully. 652 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 7: I am having so I am having a major surgery 653 00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,480 next week, So that's kind of putting a pause in 654 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,599 my book production. But I will be right back on 655 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,760 it as soon as I'm on my feet again. The 656 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,159 next book has to do with well, originally I had 657 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,639 said it was with remote viewing. I have now been 658 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,360 educated and learned that it is not remote viewing. It 659 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:15,800 is more what I should have called a eth Reeal transmission, 660 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,559 So that's going to be changed. 661 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 4: And what I learned, well, I guess I. 662 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 7: Should say the basis of the book was an experiment 663 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:33,639 that I did. I thought, I was like, okay, I 664 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,320 know about Zenner cards and being able to try to 665 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,679 pick up what's on the other side of these cards 666 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,679 the shape is it wavy circle, star whatever? 667 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,639 Speaker 6: Well thing from Ghostbusters, right, And. 668 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 7: Then I had found online too that there's like this 669 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,039 test that you can do where you're looking at a 670 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:57,760 box and then it has four pictures underneath and it says, okay, 671 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,760 name it from one to four of what you think 672 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:04,199 the actual picture is in the box. 673 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,199 Speaker 4: And I had a really good I was I was 674 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,840 usually I always the one that I hit number one 675 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 was actually the picture in the box. 676 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,159 Speaker 7: So I was like, okay, so this is like seeing 677 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,320 stuff that you can't like it's seeing behind something physically, 678 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,039 but then also something on the computer. And then I 679 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:27,960 tried it with and I did talk about it in 680 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,280 my first book. There was an experience that I had 681 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480 with my sister that I said, oh, I want to 682 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,880 try to like look in your room because we. 683 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,519 Speaker 4: Grew up four hours apart. 684 00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 7: And she was like, okay, you can try. So then 685 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,400 I was like okay, And I remember seeing this a 686 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:49,119 black panther pop into my head and I was like, 687 00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:50,119 there's a black. 688 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 4: Panther in the middle of your room. 689 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 7: I was really little at the time, and she was 690 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,000 so freaked out because what she had gotten was this 691 00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:03,199 brand new black pan third table. It's like a vintage thing, 692 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,239 so like from the seventies or eighties, and it has 693 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,239 the glass top on it, and so I was like, oh, 694 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,800 that's so cool. So from there, I thought, Okay, I 695 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,199 don't know if that's remote viewing at the time and 696 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,360 you're doing it across space, but can you do it 697 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,320 within time, like back in time, back into the seventies 698 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,239 or the eighties or something like that. So I concentrated 699 00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,519 on a location that I knew that my father was 700 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,920 at when he was enlisted in the Air Force. 701 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 4: This was San Vito Air Force Base in brandy C, Italy. 702 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,760 They had an an Flair nine radio antenna and this 703 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,360 was a location where you would like there was a 704 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,199 bunch of people that were trained to listen to the 705 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,519 radio waves and try to pick up on, you know, 706 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,239 communications and you know, listen behind the iron curtain and 707 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,519 all that. 708 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 7: Of course, my dad was always just saying, oh, the 709 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,400 only thing that I did there was swim with the jellyfish, 710 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:06,159 and I was. 711 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,679 Speaker 4: Like, you know, yeah, right, okay. 712 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,039 Speaker 7: And because later on he would become somebody that had 713 00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:17,079 underground secret clearance and he had a lot of knowledge 714 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,199 with different things that he just wasn't sharing, so. 715 00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 4: I decided to try to like remote view back into time. 716 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,039 Speaker 7: And see if I could see anything that might, you know, 717 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:34,159 that I could maybe research later to see if it 718 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,039 was correct. And I remember seeing him the way that 719 00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,719 he looked in the pictures that I've seen from his 720 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,159 days in. 721 00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:47,159 Speaker 4: The Air Force, and I remember seeing him, you know, 722 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,199 getting up a projector. But that was that was like 723 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,320 all that was about it. So it was kind of 724 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,880 like all right. 725 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 7: So I go to sleep that night and the next morning, 726 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,519 so nobody knew about this at all. And the next 727 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,559 morning I wake up and I get this message on 728 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,480 Facebook that says, HI, I know that your so and 729 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:16,880 so's daughter. My husband served at San Vito alongside your father, 730 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,960 and we were really good friends, and I wanted to 731 00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:22,360 get in touch with him, and. 732 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 4: My blood ran cold because I was just like I 733 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,840 don't know who this person is. 734 00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:33,079 Speaker 7: This happened directly the next morning after doing that, and 735 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,480 it was really it was really crazy. So the book 736 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:41,400 goes over that experiment and then everything that happened afterwards, 737 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:46,800 so dreams would happen, real life things would happen, synchronicities. 738 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,000 I mean, it was so powerful. And there have been 739 00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,960 other people that say that sometimes when they read a book, 740 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,440 it almost unlocks something for them. So then I kind 741 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,679 of also thought, okay, wait, so if I write out 742 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,599 my experiment that I did, I wonder if it'll like 743 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,719 unlock that and start that process for the people that 744 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,039 read it, like if they might like have that kind 745 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,639 of stuff start to happen. So in the back of 746 00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,440 the book there's a bunch of lines, so it turns 747 00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:19,840 into like a journal. So then they can start writing 748 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,599 out if they, you know, if the experiment continues with them. 749 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:27,880 So I will back up and say that I changed 750 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,119 it from remote viewing because I learned that remote viewing 751 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,079 is more so there's a whole military type of protocol 752 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,840 with blind double blind, which you can speak to right, 753 00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,000 because I'm learning all. 754 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 4: Of this and what I so, what I just talked 755 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,719 about was not remote viewing at all. 756 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 6: The US government remote viewing was double blind and stuff 757 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,159 like that. My interpretation is, though I would say what 758 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,440 you did was remote viewing. I think a lot of 759 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,280 the mediums that talk to their spirit guides or reach 760 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,159 that we'll call it the Akashak record is basically my 761 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,760 interpretation of like everybody that's remote viewing or a medium 762 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,880 or anything, it seems like you're all just tapping into 763 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,840 this Akahak record and or this ether of information that 764 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,599 that you're able to pull this information from. And I 765 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:27,920 believe that all this stuff kind of has the same 766 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,599 basis and it's all probably the same thing, and people 767 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,119 just kind of call it different things. Because I had 768 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,599 a I listened to a very interesting interview with one 769 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,920 of the first remote viewers that was trained in this government. 770 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,679 The way he describes it is like talking to his 771 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,079 spirit guides, but he doesn't say it that way. He says, 772 00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,320 you know, I, I, you know, tapped into this and 773 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,400 I wanted to just open it up and see what 774 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,519 I could see, and this is how it happened. And 775 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,119 I'm like, this is that My mediums tell me that, 776 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000 you know, they're talking to their spirit guide asking for 777 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:11,320 a picture seeing this getting an interpretation how they interpret information, 778 00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,519 and it's the same way that the remote viewers are 779 00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:17,880 doing it, and it's it's all just the protocol is 780 00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,480 just how you tap into that. And if you ask 781 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,920 your spirit guide to tap into it, or you have 782 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920 a piece of paper and you draw a line and 783 00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:29,840 you tap into it, or you're blindfolded in a sensory 784 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,119 deprivation tank and you tap into it. Right, all seems 785 00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:35,920 like you're tapping into the same thing. So what you 786 00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,320 want to call it, I mean, it sounds like you're 787 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,119 doing the same thing as all the rest. 788 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 4: Of this, so right right, Well, no, and I appreciate that. 789 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960 I definitely want to do a little bit more because 790 00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:46,519 then that's the. 791 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 7: Other thing I haven't gotten to actually speak to anybody, 792 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,920 like like you have the Monroe Institute and people that 793 00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,559 do the strict protocoled remote viewing. So I would really 794 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,519 love to be able to kind of like get my 795 00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:01,599 foot in the door a little bit there and say hi, 796 00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:05,280 I'd love to learn from you, because I definitely would, 797 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,480 so that way I could really know more well for. 798 00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 6: Those people listening as well. On May ninth, we have 799 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,559 Christopher Duncan, who was was a military remote viewer trained 800 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,239 by the military the United States government, and he was 801 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,960 the remote viewer that came on to the TV show 802 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,440 Expedition Bigfoot and Ronnie le Blanc looked for Bigfoot and 803 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,119 stuff like that. So that's who he is. And he's 804 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:36,400 going to be at our convention doing a workshop and 805 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,320 stuff as well as a presentations. Ready to reach out 806 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,119 to if you're interested as well, because he's the one 807 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,639 that I took the classes from over at at a 808 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,760 different convention. 809 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:49,119 Speaker 4: So oh wow, yeah that'd be great. 810 00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:59,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. So your your first book, Wrong 811 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:06,320 Way Haunted Inheritance, Now, yeah, pimply get that is in 812 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,880 the show notes for anybody. There's a link to purchase 813 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440 that on Amazon. There's a couple of different versions of 814 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,840 your books on there, and one of them is out 815 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,880 of print, and I assume that's the first version of this, 816 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,280 so you really I had to get the link directly 817 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,039 from you because I couldn't find this. 818 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah it's so. 819 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,599 Speaker 7: New, so yeah, definitely, And I can also purchase it 820 00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,599 for me if they find me on Facebook, send me 821 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,159 a message and then I can do it like an 822 00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:33,079 author signed one. 823 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:39,639 Speaker 6: Very cool because your your shop on your website takes 824 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,000 you to the out of print version. 825 00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:44,119 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that needs to be updated. 826 00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 6: There because yes, thank you, your website and this book 827 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,480 are in the show notes. But if you click the 828 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,840 website version, it's not going to take you to the book. 829 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 7: So yeah, I've got some other things i want update 830 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,119 over there too. You know, I'll get to it slow, 831 00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:04,559 but sure, you know, a little. 832 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 4: Said it could. 833 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,559 Speaker 6: And then when you said that you have your surgery 834 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,719 coming up. But when when can people expect to get 835 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,480 the new book? 836 00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 4: Let's see, I'm going to say I could choot for 837 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,239 the end of May. 838 00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 6: Okay, cool, yeah, awesome, very cool. Well we are live 839 00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:31,559 if you guys didn't know, So if you have any 840 00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,119 questions for and throw them in the comments section and 841 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,039 we will get to them. 842 00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:35,199 Speaker 2: Here. 843 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 6: We had a couple of comments. Amy did leave the show, 844 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,440 but she had some comments here. She learned that Bigfoot 845 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,440 taught her how to hum and what frequencies to sit 846 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:49,920 in when she did it, and it healed her dog 847 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,079 from a too, So there you go. You're talking. This 848 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,280 was back when you were talking about your father's diabetes. 849 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 4: And stuff, right right, very good. 850 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 6: And then she had also mentioned she wanted to know 851 00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:05,320 if the Tricia that you were talking about was the 852 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,519 same one from Flesh. 853 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 4: No No, so Tricia Michaels. I share some of her 854 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,719 stuff on my Facebook page. 855 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: She has. 856 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 7: She has a Facebook page, but she kind of does 857 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:22,639 like transmissions from Archangel Michael and all of that. So 858 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,719 she is an amazing person. I'll have to get her 859 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,440 link and share it out more. 860 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 6: And let's see here. Lee also says prayers for you, searcher. 861 00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. 862 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 6: So I think I apologize if I miss something. If 863 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,320 anybody has any other questions over here, I think I 864 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:58,920 had them all. I think I got everybodyce. But if 865 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,800 you have any other questions, let us know before we 866 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:02,760 wrap things up here. We're coming up on the d 867 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,800 But uh, let's see, so you've had I was gonna 868 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,760 ask you something else about Oh, I want to know. 869 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:19,480 You're the first person I've heard talk about the reading bones. Oh, Like, 870 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,320 I know a lot of people do it, obviously, but 871 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,280 you're you're the first person on the show that I've heard, 872 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,039 like talk about specifically. So how do you read bones? 873 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 7: So I have a there's a there's a little like 874 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,840 satchel that I have that has different things, and so 875 00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:40,480 bones doesn't actually all mean bones. So like one of 876 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:44,599 them is an Irish coin, another is like a little 877 00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:50,039 little tiny plastic baby, another one like I mean, there 878 00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:55,280 is some some bones in there, you know. And and 879 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,320 then like little Trinkett's jewelry, you know, they're just it's 880 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,320 a it's just a whole different trinket set. But you 881 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,599 can take them and usually like and this is the 882 00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:11,719 same thing with runs though, like I'll put my hand 883 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:17,360 in the little satchel and I grab whatever feels right, 884 00:53:18,159 --> 00:53:20,280 and then you take it and then you just kind of, 885 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,320 you know, like like dice, just kind of throw it down, 886 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:30,800 you know, and depending on how things fall depends on 887 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,159 how they read. So if you have the baby and 888 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,079 the coin next to each other, you know, this could 889 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:40,920 be a very you know, fertile time for you, you know, 890 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:44,280 a time where you're you're in in plenty and. 891 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,039 Speaker 4: You know, so there's just different readings like that. 892 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 7: But when you are building a bone set, it's very 893 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,239 personal and then you have to really take the time 894 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,559 to figure out what each piece means, what is the 895 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,960 energy behind that one particular thing. 896 00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,119 Speaker 4: So if you had a bone set and I had 897 00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:07,800 a bone set, and we both had a I don't 898 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:15,159 know a let's see a little nessy figurine. 899 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 7: Well, what it means to you and your set could 900 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,119 be completely different than what it means to mine and 901 00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:21,639 mid set. 902 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 4: So it's it's very unique to the person who's who's 903 00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:26,559 throwing them. 904 00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 6: Well that makes sense. So it's it's not like you're 905 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,119 like terrort cards you used to you can read other 906 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,920 people's uh, you know, energy and stuff like that, but 907 00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,079 this is more just yourself. 908 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 4: That you're Actually you can read the bones for somebody else. 909 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,679 Speaker 7: So you can reach in, just like with the ruins, 910 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,320 you can reach in and say, okay, I am asking 911 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,599 to read you know this for so and so. And 912 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,800 you can also state if there's a specific question or 913 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,719 if it's just a generalized one, and then you grab 914 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,039 and you throw it and then you read it based 915 00:54:59,079 --> 00:54:59,599 on you. 916 00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: Know, how they fall. 917 00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 6: You always see like in the movies and stuff, like 918 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,320 you know the what are Louisiana? You know the Yodo 919 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,280 and stuff, and they take the bag and they shake 920 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,760 them and they throw them down and there's like a 921 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,119 whole pile of bones on the table. Right, how do 922 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,239 you read that? Like if if the the rib bone 923 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,000 or like that, right, right, Like the ruins all have 924 00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:28,840 little ruins on them like a roll card, and I 925 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000 get that, But how do you read a bone? What 926 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:33,840 does the bone mean? 927 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:34,119 Speaker 1: You know? 928 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 4: So right exactly, I get enough that. 929 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,639 Speaker 6: See that makes more sense than throwing a bag of 930 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,840 like chicken bones on the table. 931 00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:46,159 Speaker 4: Right, that's so great. I love it. 932 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:48,119 Speaker 6: Well, that's like that's kind of like you know, like 933 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,639 the the tea leaves or theunds and a cup of 934 00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,440 coffee or something, you know, like that's that's always interesting too, 935 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:58,000 because like what are you looking at? You know, like, 936 00:55:58,199 --> 00:56:01,519 how do you interpret the grounds in the bottom of 937 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:03,360 a coffee? Have you ever done that or worked with those? 938 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 4: Yes? Actually so, I but I have a special Tara. 939 00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 7: It's it's a cup and it's sectioned out into the 940 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,760 twelve zodiac signs, so depending on where they are, so 941 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,679 it's it's very it's yeah, a lot easier than just. 942 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,559 Speaker 4: A regular cup. 943 00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 7: But I think the way that they do it with 944 00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,760 the regular cups is you just know, like depending on 945 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,639 where the handle is, and then on the left side 946 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,760 to the right side, it's oriented in a specific way, 947 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,239 so that way you can see how they you know 948 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,039 what I mean, See. 949 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 6: That makes more sense very interesting. Yeah, wow, you talked 950 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,719 about going through like the class of the reiki and stuff, 951 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,880 but how did you go from reiki into you know, 952 00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:56,159 like the reading bones and all the other stuff. Was 953 00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:59,360 that like part of the reiki classes or was that 954 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,079 something that you sought out individually? 955 00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:05,519 Speaker 7: Then so when we went to healing group, Tricia also 956 00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:08,719 had a deck of angel cards, so she taught me 957 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,079 how to use the angel cards, and then she actually 958 00:57:11,199 --> 00:57:14,920 taught me how to use the there's the main traditional 959 00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:18,920 tarot deck and she gifted me that and I was 960 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,679 able to learn how to read like there's this onespread 961 00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:25,440 that uses every single card. I of course have no 962 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:28,119 idea how to do that now it's been so long 963 00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:31,400 because it's so in depth and it takes so much time. 964 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,559 But you know, also energy and it's one of those 965 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:38,320 things where when you're reading cards or ruins or you're 966 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,000 doing reiki for somebody, there is an energetic cost to 967 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:47,199 the person doing it, and so so yeah, so now 968 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,639 I kind of tend to stick to more of your like. 969 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 4: What are they called. 970 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 7: Oracle cards, so it's like one to three cards, you know, 971 00:57:55,679 --> 00:57:57,679 or the runs you know kind of a thing. 972 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:03,159 Speaker 4: But but yeah, so it was just exposure in healing. 973 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 7: Group to the cards and then I you know, I 974 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,679 learned from there that there were other modalities as well 975 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,719 to to do readings, and being the researcher that I am, 976 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,800 I was like, oh, I want to know all them all. 977 00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 6: That makes sense. And I think I saw on your 978 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,960 website that you do like public readings, like for people 979 00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:25,159 you you help them out with their energy and stuff 980 00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:26,880 like that. Tell us a little bit about the services 981 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,800 that you offer as well. 982 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I am open to doing. It's donation based reading. 983 00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 7: So if they come to me and they say, hey, 984 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,000 I would really like it if you read my cards 985 00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,320 or my runs. There have been people that want more 986 00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,800 of spell work, which I'm also open to because I've 987 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,280 got I've got a whole apothecary in the kitchen, herbs 988 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,119 and candles and all that kind of stuff. So I 989 00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:58,599 don't mind at all doing doing something like that for somebody. 990 00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 4: So I do it donation. 991 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,039 Speaker 7: A lot of people have a set amount, but I 992 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,440 love having an energetic exchange. To me, it feels a 993 00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,880 lot more pure. I grew up in a very border 994 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,360 and trade lifestyle and so it just feels natural and 995 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:20,360 like how it should be so. I mean in a 996 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,280 donation could be anything from a hug to we got 997 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,679 to eat lunch or like, you know, whatever doesn't matter. 998 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,119 It's like whatever you feel in your heart that you 999 00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,559 want to donate back, you know. 1000 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:35,519 Speaker 6: So. 1001 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, but I love doing that for people. 1002 00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 7: When they do, when they do reach out, it's always 1003 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,639 fun and you know, it's a beautiful experience for both 1004 00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:43,920 of us. 1005 00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 6: Very cool, very cool. Well, you have a contact for 1006 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,039 him on your website, makes it really easy for people 1007 00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:52,480 to get a hold of you. And like I said, 1008 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:54,559 that is in the show notes for anybody as well 1009 00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:57,519 as the links for the uh, I'm always going to 1010 00:59:57,559 --> 01:00:04,840 mess us up Scotland. I was gonna say Ireland Scotland Tour, 1011 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,239 and your book is on there with an incorrect link, 1012 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:14,960 but the correct link, so it doesn't look like we 1013 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,239 have any other questions. So that's good or bad, I'm 1014 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:18,920 not sure. 1015 01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 4: But it's just the way that the universe is making 1016 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,159 it be. 1017 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,159 Speaker 6: A lot of comments, a lot of comments, a lot 1018 01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:31,559 of great show. Another great guest. Thank you, that's very cool. 1019 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,239 But before we wrap things up, what is your one 1020 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,519 final thought? What do you want people to take away 1021 01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:43,960 from your personal experience? And what you want to put 1022 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,599 out into the world. 1023 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 1024 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 4: So okay. 1025 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 7: I think that the biggest thing here is that through 1026 01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:58,920 my journey, all the paranormal experiences that I've had, the 1027 01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:03,119 research that I've done on what I have found is 1028 01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:08,719 the most important is our relationships with ourselves. So I 1029 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,679 am somebody that definitely believes in like therapy, not because 1030 01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:16,199 of anything being wrong with somebody, but because it can 1031 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,119 help you learn more of who you are and where 1032 01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:21,840 your path in life is. And then when you have 1033 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,280 that good relationship with yourself and you carry that into 1034 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,159 the field, that you're working in the field benefits from it. 1035 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 4: And it's one of those things that I have found 1036 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,840 to be so beautiful. 1037 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 7: Like Ken and I did a podcast last week and 1038 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:41,400 it was it was so much fun because the person 1039 01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:45,280 was asking us are different like belief systems on like 1040 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,079 what do you believe mathman is and what do you 1041 01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:51,519 believe that it is? And you know, Kin Gearheart is 1042 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,960 a science guy, whereas I am the spiritual person. And 1043 01:01:56,159 --> 01:02:01,119 our communities really have barriers up. They have this camp 1044 01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:03,719 and this camp and they're just constantly button heads. 1045 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,239 Speaker 4: But it doesn't have to be that way. 1046 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,199 Speaker 7: And I think one of the first steps towards that 1047 01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:13,360 is by healing our relationships with ourselves, because then later 1048 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,719 on those two camps can kind of let down their walls, 1049 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,360 and then if we share research, we're going to get 1050 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,280 closer to the truth because we're going to find those 1051 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,920 puzzle pieces that we don't have right now because of 1052 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,039 those walls being up. 1053 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:27,519 Speaker 4: So that's my. 1054 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that is those very very true. I think that, 1055 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,679 you know, I don't necessarily, like I've said, like, people 1056 01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:44,079 think that Bigfoot is interdimensional or terrestrial or something like that, 1057 01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:46,199 And I said, well, why does it have to be. 1058 01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:50,199 If humans can get in touch with the metaphysical, and 1059 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,559 you know, we can astro project and do all this stuff, right, 1060 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,079 why does Bigfoot have to be any different? 1061 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 4: I like that. I hadn't see I hadn't thought about 1062 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,280 that one yet. I like that very good. 1063 01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 6: All this all this stuff has you know, scientific backing, 1064 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,599 because even even astro projection and all these multi dimensions 1065 01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:13,800 and stuff, that's all science. It all has basis, and 1066 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,920 you know, there's more and more scientific data coming out 1067 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:21,159 to back the quote unquotes WU and all this stuff. 1068 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,280 There's a lot of fringe out there that might still 1069 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,960 be you know, crazy people, but you know, there's still 1070 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,199 a lot of stuff that's coming forward that maybe it's 1071 01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:31,480 not crazy after all. 1072 01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:34,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true. 1073 01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 6: We all got to have a nice happy meet in 1074 01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:38,039 the middle. 1075 01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:39,519 Speaker 4: Indeed. 1076 01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Awesome. 1077 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 6: Well, and it has been absolute pleasure meeting you finally 1078 01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:46,320 in a one on kind of here as well as 1079 01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:50,719 I know we I took Ken's cryptozoology classes and you 1080 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,840 were backstage for all the actions there and stuff. But fine, 1081 01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:59,360 fun have an interaction have you on the show. So 1082 01:03:59,559 --> 01:03:59,800 thank you. 1083 01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 4: So it's been an honor. 1084 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:04,679 Speaker 6: Thank you, very cool. I hope to look forward to 1085 01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:07,679 meeting you in person someday and hanging out and having 1086 01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:08,199 you back. 1087 01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 4: Again, so for sure, I would love that. Awesome. 1088 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,719 Speaker 6: All right, Well you take care, you have a wonderful day. 1089 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,679 Good luck on your surgery and everything coming up. Awesome, 1090 01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:23,559 Thank you so much, have a great day. Bye. All right, guys. 1091 01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:26,519 That is and she has got her wonderful books out 1092 01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:29,000 there for if you're interested in them, you can go 1093 01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,559 to the show notes and click the link for Amazon 1094 01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,079 right there and go check them out. Her new book 1095 01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:37,599 will be coming out sometime hopefully by the end of May, 1096 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,119 she says, so best of luck. With that, and if 1097 01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:42,480 you want to go on a tour adventure with her 1098 01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:46,320 and Ken over to Scotland, go check the show notes 1099 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,400 as well the link for that. The date is changing, 1100 01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:51,320 so the date on this is supposed to be the 1101 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,400 accurate date June twenty eighth through July sixth, twenty twenty seven. 1102 01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:58,880 You can go check that out as well if you 1103 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,119 want to go over to Scottland. That sounds like fun. 1104 01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:04,079 But with that being said, guys, that is the end 1105 01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:06,360 of today's show. Thank you all for tuning in. Remember 1106 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,400 to like, subscribe and share all things here on the 1107 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,920 Untold Radio Network. And if you want more of myself 1108 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,880 and the things that I do, head on over to 1109 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:17,480 Cryptids Anomalies and the Paranormal Society or wisconsincaps dot com 1110 01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:21,280 and you can get all of that. Until next time, guys, 1111 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,519 Remember we're all part of the paranormal spectrum. Take care, 1112 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,599 be well. I'll see you next week. 1113 01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 8: You seem to know something, don't let's call me King 1114 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:41,119 and Tavyway please, that's a that thing streams. 1115 01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm pages in the room and I can feed it. 1116 01:05:54,559 --> 01:06:03,199 Speaker 8: K Listen's album in the Power Word became in Trying 1117 01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:04,360 to jew