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Speaker 3: Doct olly November five, twenty eighteen, allegedly according to that
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Speaker 3: o'celly Effect, broadcast live from the facilities of ocelly dot com,
Speaker 3: but also heard on a variety of other networks. Do
Speaker 3: appreciate for tuning in on this particular Moonday, Monday, that
Speaker 3: is according to the calendar. And uh, it is a
Speaker 3: great honor that we are going to have an interesting
Speaker 3: guest here in the first hour. No Jordan Maxwell, but
Speaker 3: I do believe our guest is calling in right now. John.
Speaker 4: Is that you?
Speaker 3: Hello John, You are live on the air, my friend.
Speaker 3: We just started the show and I didn't even get
Speaker 3: to introduce you.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I'm trying to be prompted you.
Speaker 3: You have done it, my friend, arriving exactly one minute
Speaker 3: after eight I love it. Nobody else really does that.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is either real early or real late on me.
Speaker 3: And there's all kinds of things that go on. Listen, man,
Speaker 3: I I I love you. I want you to know
Speaker 3: that to begin with, you're not coming into any sort
Speaker 3: of hostile interview here, so you know, right off the top. Well,
Speaker 3: let me let me tell you something personally though, because
Speaker 3: I've never had the chance to tell you this, and
Speaker 3: I was a stern fan for many many years. I
Speaker 3: remember when they were calling you Johnny mel and you
Speaker 3: were in a band called rock Slide Right. Okay, these
Speaker 3: are things off the top of my head that I
Speaker 3: can remember. But let me let me tell you the
Speaker 3: point that you made to me that a lot of
Speaker 3: other people never quite got. And and some people who
Speaker 3: listened to my show started giving me crap already that
Speaker 3: I was having you on, and why because I usually
Speaker 3: have very serious authors on. I have very serious subjects
Speaker 3: on this show. We talk politics, we talk history, we
Speaker 3: talked the revision of history. We talk about current events
Speaker 3: and social trends, we talk about news. But you know
Speaker 3: what they said, why are you having stuttering John on?
Speaker 3: You know some people that are very kind of anti
Speaker 3: Howard Stern and sort of remember you from those days,
Speaker 3: and they were giving me crap, and I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you what right now, I don't really care. Here's the
Speaker 3: bottom line about it. John showed me something. I was
Speaker 3: a listener of Howard Stearns. I'm a little bit younger
Speaker 3: than John, but you know what. I was a heavy
Speaker 3: metal slash rock and roll dirtbag in New Jersey. And
Speaker 3: guess what I was doing, trying to figure out my
Speaker 3: way through life. And I have a handicap. Okay, now,
Speaker 3: well my mind is that I'm just about to blind
Speaker 3: my brand. I have very little eyesight.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: No, don't be. You know what. Don't be, And you
Speaker 3: know why, because here's the thing. You, a guy who
Speaker 3: had a stuttering issue, was gonna go out there and
Speaker 3: you know, just straight out didn't matter. It didn't matter
Speaker 3: if you were talking to one of the Beatles or
Speaker 3: what it was you were doing. You were gonna go
Speaker 3: out there and do your thing for the sake of comedy,
Speaker 3: and it did not matter that you had this disability.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter that every single day you were being
Speaker 3: harangued by somebody publicly and being made fun of by
Speaker 3: the guy who's supposed to be your boss and all that.
Speaker 3: You went out there and said, you know what, not
Speaker 3: only is my disability something that I'm gonna overcome. You know,
Speaker 3: they tell you overcome your disabilities and all that nonsense.
Speaker 3: But you were just like, you know what, screw it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this a feature of who I am.
Speaker 3: And guess what, you know, you guys can all deal
Speaker 3: with it or not. And you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: laugh right along with you. I'm gonna roll with all this.
Speaker 3: And you know what, man, I really take you as
Speaker 3: a personal inspiration, uh because because of that, because of
Speaker 3: that bad and I want you to know that right
Speaker 3: off the bat. Okay, And that's there's I told people.
Speaker 3: I said, I got a personal reason why I love
Speaker 3: stuttering John. I would not interview Howard Stern himself on
Speaker 3: this show. I got to tell you because I well,
Speaker 3: and I was a fan for a long time, but
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to have a conversation with him.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: I want to talk to Sow and I've had I've
Speaker 3: had Reverend Bob Levy on this show. Just so you know,
Speaker 3: that's the only other guy who's like in your sort
Speaker 3: of universe or has been in your universe before? Who's
Speaker 3: been on this show? But uh, but outside of that, no,
Speaker 3: I would not talk to Howard. It's it's look, let's
Speaker 3: be honest. He required a certain ego structure in order
Speaker 3: to accomplish the things that he did. He absolutely changed
Speaker 3: the business when it came to talk radio, and it
Speaker 3: required a massive sort of mentality that went in a
Speaker 3: certain direction that I don't want to wrestle with. I
Speaker 3: just don't. It's not that I'm intimidated, it's just that
Speaker 3: I would not find it enjoyable to talk to him.
Speaker 3: I really don't think I would. That's why I never
Speaker 3: called in, even though I was a fan, and even
Speaker 3: though I listened to it and loved, you know, the news,
Speaker 3: and absolutely was a big fan of every single thing
Speaker 3: you did, whether you were getting punched in the mouth
Speaker 3: by Raquel Welch or you were a hassling ringo star
Speaker 3: or asking questions of various you know level celebrities that
Speaker 3: nobody else would ask and get yourself thrown out of
Speaker 3: press conferences. I love it, man, you know what, You're
Speaker 3: exactly the wake up call that so many people trapped
Speaker 3: inside of their own little world's needed. So now I'm
Speaker 3: gonna shut up, John, and I'm gonna ask you, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just ask you a couple of questions. You
Speaker 3: have a brand new book coming out or it's already
Speaker 3: out according to Amazon anyway.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, it's out on Amazon. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: get it doesn't get it, you know, I guess the
Speaker 2: real release whole Novema thirteenth. But you can get on
Speaker 2: Amazon and if you want to sign book, you go
Speaker 2: to rarebird books dot com and it'll come sign But again, Chuck,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm sorry for interrupting to get no.
Speaker 3: Listen, never be sorry for interrupting me. Man. Uh again,
Speaker 3: I have a couple of things on my agenda and
Speaker 3: I want to get to them because I know you
Speaker 3: probably don't have a lot a lot of time to
Speaker 3: talk to me. But the book itself, apparently is a
Speaker 3: story about you and your life and what you came
Speaker 3: up through.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I see mentioned in the in the press kid that
Speaker 3: you know, you talk about being bullied as a kid
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I I came out of a
Speaker 3: different attitude. I got bullied too, until I decided, you
Speaker 3: know what, not only am I going to be the
Speaker 3: blind guy who takes that crap uh without you know,
Speaker 3: falling apart. But I'm also gonna beat you to death
Speaker 3: if I have to. Uh, you know, like I I
Speaker 3: turned on these people who were bullies and uh, you
Speaker 3: know that's necessarily I handled it. And and I'm sure
Speaker 3: you had experiences like that too, But that's only one
Speaker 3: part of what goes on in this book.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You recount your years in the with the Stern Show,
Speaker 3: you recount your years as Jay Leno's band leader slash announcer.
Speaker 3: You know, what what is it that that caused you
Speaker 3: to come out with it? At this time? I wonder, John.
Speaker 2: Well, I had I had started writing it like three
Speaker 2: years ago, and you know, but you know, I mean
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I can get a book deal
Speaker 2: or not, if I can get a publisher. And then
Speaker 2: and then finally Gretchen Bonaducci believe it or not, you know,
Speaker 2: Daniel Bonduci's ex wife, was like, you know, I have
Speaker 2: I have this book publisher that that that they're really interested.
Speaker 2: And I met with them and they were like, we
Speaker 2: love I sent them like the first five chapters and
Speaker 2: they were like, we love this, we want this book
Speaker 2: and you know, like so far, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, it's the labor of love, I guess. But
Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of good reviews and a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have interviewed me who are who have
Speaker 2: already gotten it from Amazon, you know, like said, they
Speaker 2: can't put it down. And that's the whole point of it.
Speaker 2: It's not I mean, it does, you know, speak volumes
Speaker 2: on the craziness of the Howard stan Show and the
Speaker 2: the insanity of it, but it also, you know, it's
Speaker 2: very anecdotal. It also it also tells stories of you know,
Speaker 2: you know, of the love that I had, you know,
Speaker 2: for Howard and everything else. And and then it also
Speaker 2: goes into Jay Leno, who is you know, completely ocd
Speaker 2: as I am, And it goes into all his his
Speaker 2: little kind of wacky things, and I think anybody, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're if you like entertainment. It covers everything from
Speaker 2: Chelsea Hamlet being the most despicable person on earth. It
Speaker 2: covers you know, how Jimmy Kimmel stabbed Jay Leno in
Speaker 2: the back, and it covers how my ex wife, but
Speaker 2: my wife at the time, came up with the idea
Speaker 2: for keeping up with the Kardashians and Chris Kardashian never
Speaker 2: gave her credit. And you know, all these things, and
Speaker 2: it's all in the book. I mean, the one thing
Speaker 2: that Day writes in the forwards of my book, or
Speaker 2: you know, in like on one of the flaps, he says,
Speaker 2: John is unfiltered. And that's why this book is a
Speaker 2: good read. And that I think out of any of
Speaker 2: the ex you know, Stern Staffers, I am the guy
Speaker 2: that is unfiltered. And I'll tell the truth. I don't
Speaker 2: care if how wants to sue me, go for it,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna lose because everything is true. I don't lie,
Speaker 2: believe it or not. My OCD and you know, being
Speaker 2: a Catholic boy, I don't lie. I tell the truth
Speaker 2: and everything in this is truthful. And I I think, Chuck,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I think any of you listeners
Speaker 2: would just enjoy it. It's funny and it's it's a
Speaker 2: great ride, and you know, I'll just say this, it's
Speaker 2: like I'm live the life of see I'm stuttering. I
Speaker 2: get live the life of a Boris Gump. Only I
Speaker 2: was too stupid to invest in Apple stock.
Speaker 3: Well, part of that, part of that Forrest Gump type lifestyle.
Speaker 3: In fact, see now I brought up the fact that
Speaker 3: that both of us were musicians. Again, I'm just a
Speaker 3: touch younger than you, but you know, I came out
Speaker 3: of the same music scene that that bon Jovii did.
Speaker 3: I came out of the same music scene that Zach
Speaker 3: Wild did on the Jersey Shore, right, So you know
Speaker 3: what that's like. I mean, every time we went to
Speaker 3: go play in Canada, they go Bruce Springsteen and I
Speaker 3: go no. But you know this is the way it
Speaker 3: went right. You also have a portion of the book
Speaker 3: where you talk about hanging out with Ozzy Osbourne. I
Speaker 3: am a lifelong Black Sabbath Ozzy Osbourne fan. Anybody listens
Speaker 3: to this show knows that. Uh, And you know you
Speaker 3: have that opportunity come up. A great many opportunities, in fact,
Speaker 3: came up due to the fact that you were just
Speaker 3: willing to go out there, you know, rather bravely and
Speaker 3: do your thing despite again the fact that you do
Speaker 3: legitimately have this issue with being able to speak clearly
Speaker 3: sometimes and you get a little nervous and caught up.
Speaker 3: And you've gotten much better though. I've taken a listen
Speaker 3: to a couple of year podcasts and you definitely don't
Speaker 3: do it as much as you used to. And and
Speaker 3: I imagine that that is also tied to the OCD thing.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of stuff in this book, not
Speaker 3: just to Howard Stern show, right, there's there's other things.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, god, yeah, you know, you know that's
Speaker 2: one of the things. Well, you know, first of all, anyone,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I have I was, you know,
Speaker 2: as a stutterer. I was a keynote speaker at the
Speaker 2: National Stuttering Association. I have mentored stuttering kids all my
Speaker 2: you know, all my life. And there's a story in
Speaker 2: the book about you know, conray Donold, this kid that
Speaker 2: I you know, that I helped that it's a it's
Speaker 2: a wonderful story. But you know, you know, like I've
Speaker 2: always told, you know, all these stutterers that stuttering is
Speaker 2: not who you are. It's just something that you do, right,
Speaker 2: you know, don't let it define you. And that's why,
Speaker 2: like you know, when Howard would goof on me and
Speaker 2: and and and whoever would google me about being you know,
Speaker 2: about stuttering, I was okay with it. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like it doesn't really bother me. And you know, and
Speaker 2: I teach these kids like how to be uh you know,
Speaker 2: okay with it and then you know and and you know,
Speaker 2: just to just know it's not who you are. And
Speaker 2: it's like you chuck. I mean, you know, I didn't
Speaker 2: know that you had a disability. But I mean, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to be treated any different, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And if someone made a joke, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I I think you wouldn't you know, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that taken back by it.
Speaker 3: No, I've learned to embrace it, like I said, as
Speaker 3: a matter of fact. Here, here's the thing that I
Speaker 3: take with it is, you know when people start to
Speaker 3: try and put you down because you got you know,
Speaker 3: one of these I'll call it a quirk. You know,
Speaker 3: it's really nothing more than that. When when you have
Speaker 3: one of these things, uh you know, whether it's stuttering
Speaker 3: or you have a physical disability, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Okay, so guess what I'm gonna accomplish
Speaker 3: stuff and those that are that are gonna attack me
Speaker 3: or try and make fun of me or whatever else. Hey,
Speaker 3: can you do what I do? How about that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Could could anybody if they're gonna make fun of you stuttering.
Speaker 3: You know, they used to play that thing, I think,
Speaker 3: Hero of the Stupid and all that because oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you know you were just but yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, suck. And that's another thing, like
Speaker 2: like people don't understand and like you know, like if
Speaker 2: they don't agree with me politically or whatever, and you
Speaker 2: know what, you know, I don't do any politics, so
Speaker 2: I stand up, no idea I do any Polympics in
Speaker 2: the book, because it's too polarizing the country through divided.
Speaker 2: But I mean, they get mad at me and they
Speaker 2: call me Hero the Stupid and they think it's an insult.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, Chuck. The reason why I was
Speaker 2: called Hero the Stupid is because when Robin Quivers, Howard's
Speaker 2: co host, and I were on the street in Manhattan,
Speaker 2: all the blue collar workers, like you know, the you know,
Speaker 2: the truck drivers, the construction guys, the guys you know,
Speaker 2: you know, digging ditches, whatever, you know, would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: stun ra John. They all recognize me and they related
Speaker 2: to me, and they didn't at all screamed to Robin.
Speaker 2: They were all like, hey, John, we love you. And
Speaker 2: then Robin, you know, got annoyed that I was getting
Speaker 2: all the you know, praise from from these blue collar workers.
Speaker 2: She's like, look, she has to see your fan base,
Speaker 2: your hero of the stupid. So for me, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna call me hero of the stupid because I represent
Speaker 2: the working class, I'll take it any day of the week.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean because my father was a
Speaker 2: member of the working class, and you know, and you
Speaker 2: know I'm a blue collar guy by heart. So I
Speaker 2: have no problem with you know, if if Robin equated,
Speaker 2: you know, people who work hard for a living, who
Speaker 2: are blue collar, you know of hero the stupid, And
Speaker 2: that's her problem.
Speaker 3: That's not mine, you know, right right, And you know
Speaker 3: what's amazing too, is And now, since you mentioned politics
Speaker 3: really quickly, I want to I want to get into
Speaker 3: one of the things that brought you back into my attention,
Speaker 3: because you know, for years there I did not know
Speaker 3: exactly what you were doing. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm so busy trying to do my thing
Speaker 3: that I don't keep track of everybody's podcast. It seems
Speaker 3: like everybody's got one. Now, you know, this kind of thing,
Speaker 3: and there is a stuttering John Podcast, which you guys
Speaker 3: can get it like Apple iTunes and all that as well.
Speaker 3: Mainly's here to talk about the book today. But the
Speaker 3: point is it's there. I think you're on episode twenty
Speaker 3: five something like that, and you know it's interesting. But
Speaker 3: I didn't hear from you for a while, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I stopped listening to Stern Show a
Speaker 3: while ago because I didn't want his style to interfere
Speaker 3: with what it is that I was going to create
Speaker 3: Number one, number two. I also just kind of got
Speaker 3: a little bored with what was going on over there.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's just me, all right, it's my taste.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. But I didn't hear from
Speaker 3: you for a while. Then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: see a headline story that stuttering John called air Force
Speaker 3: one and got through to Donald Trump. Now the dynamics
Speaker 3: in my head, John, were a little different than what
Speaker 3: the mainstream media decided to do with this. I'm thinking
Speaker 3: to myself, John knows Donald Trump? And why does John
Speaker 3: know Donald Trump? Because he had to have been there
Speaker 3: when Donald Trump had come on the Stern Show at
Speaker 3: some point, he had to have shook his hand. He's
Speaker 3: probably encountered him more than once, you know. And meanwhile,
Speaker 3: he got through under the name Menendez, which relates you
Speaker 3: to Bob Menendez. Okay, I'm getting convoluted here, but you
Speaker 3: guys can read the story. I'll give you the links
Speaker 3: to it with the podcast that'll be provided for the
Speaker 3: show afterwards, and i'll drop it in the live chat
Speaker 3: room as well in a minute here. But the point
Speaker 3: is that I've found that hilarious. First of all, that
Speaker 3: that you were able to get through, and it was
Speaker 3: just amazing. Your statement afterwards, which people used as a
Speaker 3: sound bite, was you know, hey, look, if this is
Speaker 3: their screening process, how ridiculous is that? And I thought
Speaker 3: that was beautiful just as an objective, comedic moment, first
Speaker 3: of all. But secondly, quite honestly, I'm happy when somebody
Speaker 3: aggravates Trump and you know, or embarrassism. I think it's
Speaker 3: necessary at this point in time. But that's that's neither
Speaker 3: here nor there. I don't want to talk politics with you,
Speaker 3: but I would like to know what inspired you to
Speaker 3: do that and and what that was like, if you
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind it, you know, explaining a little bit about
Speaker 3: it for me, because I I just I I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta tip my hat to you. That is absolutely brilliance.
Speaker 3: And uh and and the fact that you pulled it off, man,
Speaker 3: I am so uh jealous of the fact that you
Speaker 3: were able to do so, because I would love to
Speaker 3: have been able to do something like that.
Speaker 2: No, well, it was, you know, I believe it or not.
Speaker 2: It was because the guest that day was going to
Speaker 2: be Casey Armstrong from The Howard Stern Show. But but
Speaker 2: Casey said he was too busy, which is more unbelievable
Speaker 2: that I get through to the present that Casey is
Speaker 2: too busy. But I just, you know, me and my producer,
Speaker 2: my producers like, hey, let's call them. Oh sorry, you know,
Speaker 2: let's call the White House and and and and I'm
Speaker 2: like all right, you know, so we googled the number
Speaker 2: and we called them, and within minutes we got a
Speaker 2: hold of them. And I said that, you know, I said,
Speaker 2: I I made.
Speaker 3: Up a name.
Speaker 2: I go, hey, is she's shown more the worst thingless
Speaker 2: accent in the world. Is she's shown more. I'm the
Speaker 2: you know, I'm Bob Menendez as assistant. They're like, who
Speaker 2: I go, Sean is in coronery, more is in Roger
Speaker 2: I'm a big Bone fan.
Speaker 3: You know. You know what's funny. You know what's funny
Speaker 3: about that, John, is that, quite honestly, your accents have
Speaker 3: always kind of sucked just just ye objectively they always have.
Speaker 3: But somehow it's funny because I've heard you full more
Speaker 3: than one person with a bad accent cracks me up also,
Speaker 3: But but yeah, this is another element here. You gave
Speaker 3: him a bad English accent and they went, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: this must be somebody you get through to the White
Speaker 3: House switchboard and what happens next?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you know which But let's face it,
Speaker 2: like even even with that axs, like I said, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a big Bond fan. Like what it's
Speaker 2: like what I named myself. I mean, you know, but
Speaker 2: but I forget that they gave me. They go, well,
Speaker 2: the brother the president is in Fargo, North Dakota right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, they gave me his location from one phone call,
Speaker 2: which is just crazy because I mean, they might as
Speaker 2: well give me the longitude and latitude and then and
Speaker 2: then you know, so I give my number, they call
Speaker 2: me back, and this is the funniest thing to me.
Speaker 2: And you know, just look if the Democrats Republic doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's just the this organization of this administration, right is.
Speaker 2: They call me back and they say, well, we have
Speaker 2: one question. You're a New Jersey, you're representing a New
Speaker 2: Jersey senator. Why do you have an eight to one
Speaker 2: to eight area code? And I said, oh, it's because
Speaker 2: we're on the holiday now, now talk. You and I
Speaker 2: both know that just because you go to another state,
Speaker 2: your every code on your cell phone does.
Speaker 3: Not shape no, So we got we got two red
Speaker 3: flags here for somebody who's intelligent and in evaluating the situation.
Speaker 3: First of all, the guy's like, well, you know, like
Speaker 3: the Bond care as if you know he told his
Speaker 3: parents how to name him beforehand.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, exactly, get on top of it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know we're on holidays, so we got a
Speaker 3: different area code right now? And okay, like is it
Speaker 3: people don't carry their cell phones from say New Jersey
Speaker 3: to wherever you're supposed to be, So what does that mean?
Speaker 3: And they accepted that explanation. It gets worse. Go ahead,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And that's and and that's the crazy thing. And they said, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll have the president call you. And then I'm driving
Speaker 2: to a date in Beverly Hills, which is even more unbelievable.
Speaker 2: But I have a date. But and then as I'm driving,
Speaker 2: I get a call from Jared Kushner from Air Force
Speaker 2: One and he's like, hey, is this you know, is
Speaker 2: this the Senator? I go, yes, yes, it's the center
Speaker 2: And he said, well, you know, I can pull the
Speaker 2: president out now, but he's in a meeting or you know,
Speaker 2: or or should I wait? I said, oh no, you can,
Speaker 2: you know, have him get done to the meeting and
Speaker 2: call me because I had to figure out how I
Speaker 2: was going to take the thing.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, John, let me
Speaker 3: let me wrap my mind around this for a minute.
Speaker 3: Not only did you get Jared Kushner to call you back,
Speaker 3: but they're willing to pull him out of a meeting
Speaker 3: to talk to a guy that they haven't vetted actually
Speaker 3: to make sure that it's actually the senator. And yeah,
Speaker 3: they're going to interrupt allegedly government business whatever that is,
Speaker 3: to to bring him to the phone for a guy
Speaker 3: that is you know clearly uh, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: no offense, but it's clearly a phony. And it's it's
Speaker 3: all in the book and and and and that's all right.
Speaker 2: So then you know, and then I, you know, I
Speaker 2: I you know, I say, okay, uh, have him call
Speaker 2: him back because I got to figure out how to
Speaker 2: tape it. And then within I don't know, half hour,
Speaker 2: I get a call from you know, they say, we
Speaker 2: have the President of sent Obama and endez I used
Speaker 2: my you know, I use my phony English accent, and
Speaker 2: I immediately conferenced, you know, you know my friend the
Speaker 2: New York who you know, could tape it, and and
Speaker 2: I and I said, hell, send it all your man.
Speaker 2: He said yes, and then I and then I took
Speaker 2: it from there, and then I just had a five
Speaker 2: minute conversation with Donald Trump over the issues that were
Speaker 2: important to me, you know. And sometimes people go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, John didn't say anything that was funny, but
Speaker 2: you know, with the exception of the Bubba buoy to
Speaker 2: you all at the end, But I wasn't. The intention
Speaker 2: was not to say anything funny in the call. The
Speaker 2: attention was to prove how easy it is to infiltrate
Speaker 2: the administration and to get you know, I'm just you know,
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that Donald didn't even like, you know,
Speaker 2: on a center. I mean, I don't sound senatorial I
Speaker 2: sound janitorial.
Speaker 3: So the best part is, well, John, the best part
Speaker 3: is he opens up with congratulating you for you know,
Speaker 3: basically beating the uh you know, the corruption rap uh,
Speaker 3: which yeah.
Speaker 2: Because he's dealing with that himself.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're doing such a fine job, Bob, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that is I've heard the call. I've
Speaker 3: listened to it a couple of times. You don't have
Speaker 3: to be funny when you have an awkward situation. He
Speaker 3: here's comedy lessons for people. You don't have to be
Speaker 3: outrageous or say the crazy thing to just allow a
Speaker 3: ludicrous situation to unfold and it becomes I mean, that
Speaker 3: was comedically hysterical to me off the bat that he's
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. And now, no, no,
Speaker 2: fucking thank you for appreciating that. People doesn't understand. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta remember, I'm just an idiot doing
Speaker 2: a podcast. And I say, all right, let's call the president,
Speaker 2: and then we do and we succeed and I have
Speaker 2: a fun conversation with him. I mean, that's pretty freaking impressive,
Speaker 2: you know. And but but but it's not about Pat
Speaker 2: and myself In the bag. It's really just like just
Speaker 2: exposing how like simple it was. It's kind of scary
Speaker 2: if you're a if you're an American citizen.
Speaker 3: Well, here here's the interesting thing. Right. I've studied the
Speaker 3: Kennedy assassination in depth. It's one of my things. That's
Speaker 3: why they called me the blind JFK researcher, Right, And
Speaker 3: uh one of the reasons that it's uh so fascinating
Speaker 3: to me is that the Secret Service had to have
Speaker 3: had a conniption over what happened here because.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they banged on my door, dude, you know
Speaker 2: in the book, they banged on my door. They they
Speaker 2: called my agent and I had to call them, and
Speaker 2: then they were I asked them if you know, if
Speaker 2: they wanted, because they wanted me to, you know, come
Speaker 2: down there. I said, do you want to interview me?
Speaker 2: Or do you want to arrest me? And they said,
Speaker 2: we can't tell you that, And I was just like,
Speaker 2: all right, I got to call Abanati. So I called.
Speaker 2: I called Abanati and he agreed to rep me and
Speaker 2: he got me out of the whole thing. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I I because the only the only stipulation
Speaker 2: is that you're not allowed to impersonate a public official
Speaker 2: for monetary game, but because my podcast is free, there
Speaker 2: was no monetary game, so I was able to like
Speaker 2: get away with it, thank god.
Speaker 3: M Well, there they're here's the thing, jug I.
Speaker 2: Mean, just so you know, I've been doing this, oh
Speaker 2: my love, Like on the Starn Show, I'm the one
Speaker 2: who asked the Dalai Lama people go up to you
Speaker 2: and say hello, Dolly. I mean, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm the one who asked, you know, Red cal well,
Speaker 2: so are they drooping it. I'm the one who asked,
Speaker 2: you know, o J if he would sign my knife.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've always done this kind of thing,
Speaker 2: so you know, it's not really that shocking for me,
Speaker 2: you know, for me to do something like this, and
Speaker 2: you know, I hope we'll have some more things that
Speaker 2: you'll be proud of me in store.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, if you never pull off another phony phone
Speaker 3: call like that again, you definitely have already achieved the
Speaker 3: Crown Jewel as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: Because that that is just I'm yeah, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna call it putin I'll get killed.
Speaker 3: That well, yeah, I would listen. I would strongly advise
Speaker 3: you do not call the Russian president no, because they
Speaker 3: play like that over there.
Speaker 2: But no, I know, I would be dead by now.
Speaker 3: So okay, look, you had to stipulate that, Hey, look
Speaker 3: I won't do this again. Uh probably, and they probably
Speaker 3: investigated you a bit and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: As you said, the details are in the book. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know what, what's known publicly is still hysterically funny.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't care what anybody thinks of Trump
Speaker 3: as a politician. You pointed out something here though, in
Speaker 3: a real legitimate way that you know, look, if it's
Speaker 3: this porous, doesn't that mean almost anybody Because, like you said,
Speaker 3: a guy with a podcast the ability to record and
Speaker 3: you know, maybe just tell a good story could get
Speaker 3: rude to the President of the United States. Who knows
Speaker 3: what somebody could put in his ear.
Speaker 2: That way, you know, I mean, no, I know, I mean,
Speaker 2: but what's scary about it is this is the guy
Speaker 2: in charge of nuclear code, this is the administration. Oh yeah, well,
Speaker 2: you know that's that's the scary part. And the scary
Speaker 2: thing is that even in the phone call you know,
Speaker 2: with with me, is that he's like telling me like
Speaker 2: when he's gonna release his Supreme Court justice pick. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, he's telling someone with with no betting,
Speaker 2: you know, He's it's like he's talking to a guy
Speaker 2: on the street.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to talk about a guy with no filter.
Speaker 3: There you go, it's a guy with no filter too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Look, I I know again, you know there's
Speaker 3: a lot that we could go into here, but I mean,
Speaker 3: this to me is just epic as far as I'm
Speaker 3: concerned that you pulled that off. And uh, I got
Speaker 3: gotta say it gave me another reminder of my appreciation
Speaker 3: for your work. Yeah, you are the guy I forgot
Speaker 3: to mention the OJ thing that had to be a
Speaker 3: little weird. What do you think was the was the
Speaker 3: strangest encounter you have ra had. I mean, let's let's
Speaker 3: not talk about I mean, rat cal Welch punched you,
Speaker 3: but she certainly wasn't the only one to ever try
Speaker 3: and go after you physically. What was the strangest or
Speaker 3: the thing that ever made you I mean, did you
Speaker 3: ever feel bad about doing any of that or did
Speaker 3: you think, like, uh, at all times it was funny
Speaker 3: or did you have mixed feelings about that or I
Speaker 3: mean internally, not what you tell that the show.
Speaker 2: I mean, there have been a few that I might
Speaker 2: have felt bad about. I mean the one that comes
Speaker 2: to mind is I asked gossip gossip columnists, uh, Liz
Speaker 2: Smith why she's such a fat cow? And you know,
Speaker 2: she laughed it off. But it was because Andrew Dice
Speaker 2: Clay was in the studio with an hour and me,
Speaker 2: so because he was mad she gave him a bit
Speaker 2: every view. He's like, hey, watch as Smith what she said?
Speaker 2: A bet girl? And you know, and I did, and
Speaker 2: then I felt bad and then I you know, I
Speaker 2: went back another time when she was appearing somewhere and
Speaker 2: I apologized and he taped it and played on the show.
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, I'm not a bad guy. Like
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have a hateful blowing on my body.
Speaker 2: I mean, quite honest, Donald Trump, I've hung out with
Speaker 2: I've had lunch with you know, I flew in his helicopter.
Speaker 2: I've had dinner with him. You know, I've hung out
Speaker 2: with him, you know, an NBC thing. You know, as
Speaker 2: a person, I've never had a problem with the man.
Speaker 2: As a president. I think he's you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think he's you know, somebody that I was fart as
Speaker 2: a president, but as a guy that's hanging out with
Speaker 2: that's you know, you know, he was fine.
Speaker 3: I mean, John, I like you. I like you, John,
Speaker 3: but I would not want to hand you the nuclear codes.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, man. I mean it's just one of those
Speaker 3: things you could like a guy you know personally, or
Speaker 3: a woman or whoever. Uh, you could like them personally
Speaker 3: and and and not necessarily want them to be in
Speaker 3: charge of very sensitive things. I mean it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you know, I listen and you and I
Speaker 3: also have a mutual appreciation for somebody that you knew personally,
Speaker 3: which I wish I had gotten to know.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: But I was, again, you know, just a young guy
Speaker 3: doing my thing on the on the scene.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it was Sam Kinnison, who who to me was
Speaker 3: a unique talent in the course of my lifetime, somebody
Speaker 3: that we will never see again, uh, certainly. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the the night that that he died, I
Speaker 3: was playing a gig and uh, you know, we we
Speaker 3: did like a little tribute to him on stage and
Speaker 3: all that. But to be honest with you, that was
Speaker 3: like one of the first celebrities that I was kind
Speaker 3: of heartbroken had had disappeared. But you knew the guy personally.
Speaker 3: You got stuff about Sam in the book too, don't you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Sam, Sam was out of all
Speaker 2: the celebrities that were guests on the Sun Show, Sam
Speaker 2: was probably the nicest to me out of any of them,
Speaker 2: so much so that I would sleep at Sam's house
Speaker 2: and I would hang out with Sam, and I introduced
Speaker 2: him to a jeweler, and you know that he used
Speaker 2: for his jewelry. I mean, we became friends. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was there at the China Club in La when
Speaker 2: not only did Sam strangle Arsenio home on the stairwell
Speaker 2: of the China Club because Arsenio had made fun of
Speaker 2: his brother. But you know, I guess one of my well,
Speaker 2: there's two great stories, but there's one where at the
Speaker 2: China Club, Sam took me into the bathroom and opened
Speaker 2: the page of cocaine and said he had do a line,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, do couple bless and you know,
Speaker 2: and I had, I haven't seen that much weed in
Speaker 2: a It was like the whole whole page of cocaine.
Speaker 2: And I did a few lines with him and then
Speaker 2: he reaches into his pocket and then hands me like
Speaker 2: a pill out of his pocket. He goes, hey, he
Speaker 2: gets crazy. Take that, you know. And then and then
Speaker 2: he went up and strangled on Semio. And then there's
Speaker 2: no time. I stayed at his place after one of
Speaker 2: his last shows at the track gets here in LA
Speaker 2: and I went to his house, and you know, Sam didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, there were I hung out a lot of
Speaker 2: the guys in Ausie's vand there and Sam, you know,
Speaker 2: and I slept over with the buddy of mine and
Speaker 2: then and then uh like like on the landing and
Speaker 2: then in the morning, I hear familiar voice and I
Speaker 2: look down and it's Sam and Buddy Hackett with their
Speaker 2: guns out, exchanging gun stories.
Speaker 3: Sam and Buddy Hackett had guns out. Yeah, that's crazy,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And again I mean I buddy with Sam's bave.
Speaker 3: So you know, oh well see, now there there's something
Speaker 3: I did not know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I remember Sam talking about Buddy Hackett briefly on on
Speaker 3: some appearances or whatever. And now he was a good
Speaker 3: guy and he kind of knew him. And I liked
Speaker 3: Buddy Hackett too, but uh, you know that that's an
Speaker 3: interesting mix there when he got members of Ozzie's band,
Speaker 3: maybe under the same roof as Buddy Hackett. But Sam
Speaker 3: could do that sort of thing. I mean, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: it seems like he brought together a lot of interesting
Speaker 3: elements when he decided to uh you know throw a
Speaker 3: soa a so to speak. And uh, I gotta say that,
Speaker 3: you know, the one guy I knew from that group
Speaker 3: sort of uh you know when he came to Ozzie's
Speaker 3: band would have been would have been Zach who you
Speaker 3: know again was from Jersey and uh he was in
Speaker 3: a band called Zyrus before he got the job with Ozzy. Anyway,
Speaker 3: it you know, and and I and I know those
Speaker 3: dudes partied pretty heavy because I remember when they used
Speaker 3: to get together with the bikers and stuff like that
Speaker 3: in Jersey when he would come to town again, and
Speaker 3: it was pretty wild. But but Sam kind of would
Speaker 3: bring together like old Hollywood people and you know, and
Speaker 3: just like bikers and strippers and guys like you and
Speaker 3: just it was like a wild mix, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it was. And one of my favorite stories
Speaker 2: of Sam is which probably irritated the crap out of
Speaker 2: Fred Norris was one of the people on the show,
Speaker 2: and Fred was always kind of jealous of me because
Speaker 2: I got the record deals, I got the late night
Speaker 2: talk show deal when he auditioned to be for many
Speaker 2: voice of the jobs. You know, I think Fred always,
Speaker 2: I mean he was on the end that I inspired
Speaker 2: him to get back into music and record albums, which
Speaker 2: I apologize to everybody for. But but there was one
Speaker 2: time that Sam, you know, was so drunk on the
Speaker 2: show and you know he saw Fred and he pushed
Speaker 2: Fred against Dorny Goes Sonner and John what are you doing?
Speaker 2: And you know Fred looks nothing like me, but Sam
Speaker 2: was so inebriated. But it must have really irritated Fred
Speaker 2: that you know that Sam or that he.
Speaker 3: Was me that Yeah, I I could see how that
Speaker 3: would have bothered Fred. Fred wash you know, for people
Speaker 3: who don't know necessarily the history of the Stern Show.
Speaker 3: I mean Fred was there like you know forever, uh.
Speaker 2: You know with Yeah, I think he even said hey,
Speaker 2: Sonnor and John, I love you, which even would annoy
Speaker 2: Fredd even more. Is that is that Sam? Because Sam,
Speaker 2: you know, Sam and I were friends, and that probably
Speaker 2: irritated Fred too. But you know, Fred is his own.
Speaker 6: You know, I have a chapter in the book about
Speaker 6: Fred as I do about Jackie and Lady and you know,
Speaker 6: and I have a chapter called The Good Debt and
Speaker 6: the Buoy which includes a lot of the you know,
Speaker 6: the behind the scenes of Gary and look.
Speaker 2: For anybody, like I said, entertainment into the stern, so
Speaker 2: into the drump phone call, into Jay Leno and all
Speaker 2: of my experiences with people like Chelsea Hammler and and
Speaker 2: Joe Waltsh who I wrote a song with, and Sam
Speaker 2: Kennison and Jimmy Kimmel. I think anybody would enjoy the book.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, you know, I'm not just saying, look,
Speaker 2: I'm proud of it, obviously, but like the reviews of
Speaker 2: the Cann't have been so so great, and I think
Speaker 2: it's just like it's an easy read, and it's just
Speaker 2: like you're talking to me, you know, I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not like obviously, I'm not Shakespeare. So it's just
Speaker 2: it's just me talking well, And.
Speaker 3: You know that leads me to another question, because there's
Speaker 3: an audiobook version of this available. Who reads the audiobook?
Speaker 2: I do, because I start her it's going to be
Speaker 2: a box set.
Speaker 3: Perfect. Okay, Well, listen, you know the blind guy's got
Speaker 3: to buy the audio book, so you know, you got
Speaker 3: to stutter. I mean, hey, at least I'll get my
Speaker 3: money's worth out of it. It will be longer than
Speaker 3: the usual audiobook. Perfect. Hey, no problems there. Look John,
Speaker 3: it's it's really a happy thing for me to have
Speaker 3: you on. I I love this, I love the book.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to listen to some of the podcasts. It's, uh,
Speaker 3: it's fascinating. You got uh you got a couple of
Speaker 3: guys you work with over there too, who are some
Speaker 3: funny people and have some interesting stories as well. I
Speaker 3: was listening to you guys talk about comedians in general,
Speaker 3: and and I you know what it is. I love comedians,
Speaker 3: especially ones that push you know, beyond the uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the the sensible, the average. Like I don't, you know,
Speaker 3: do really dirty stuff on my show or anything. But
Speaker 3: trust me, when I'm listening to a comedian, I love
Speaker 3: the most outrageous, outlandish, Like I said, Sam Kinnison to me,
Speaker 3: is is a never to be duplicated or equal to
Speaker 3: individual in my lifetime, I promise you. But you know
Speaker 3: a lot of people that you've encountered over the years,
Speaker 3: some people who had attitudes that you know, denoted that
Speaker 3: they might have been famous even though they weren't really
Speaker 3: fam some people that were famous, but maybe we're really
Speaker 3: insufferable human beings, and and other people that are just
Speaker 3: interesting and decent guys. I find that whole contrast interesting
Speaker 3: because you know, celebrities in and of themselves are not
Speaker 3: necessarily separate from the rest of us. So they come
Speaker 3: in a wide variety of flavors right.
Speaker 2: There, of course, of course. But anyway, Chuck, I gotta
Speaker 2: get going. I have some one the things I gotta do,
Speaker 2: is I appreciate it so much that you have me on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, John, listen in any time by the way
Speaker 3: that h you know, something else occurs or whatever. Believe me,
Speaker 3: I'm more than happy to talk with you. Uh if
Speaker 3: you want to come on and promote something else, more
Speaker 3: than happy as well.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And and I am. I'm actually in Georgia.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: My accent tells you that, right. Uh, you know, from
Speaker 3: from the Tri State area. I lived on the Lower
Speaker 3: East Side, Jersey stuff like that. But I'm in Georgia
Speaker 3: now and making uh oh, because I.
Speaker 2: Did the Atlanta Punchline. There's a story in there in
Speaker 2: the book about it.
Speaker 3: Oh no kidding. Well, you probably don't have time to
Speaker 3: tell it, but there's probably a lot of.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's very brief and I'll be as
Speaker 2: clean as possible. But I had called uh, you know,
Speaker 2: Director D because I was I was going to uh,
Speaker 2: you know, headline and then open for CRAIGT. Shoemaker, but
Speaker 2: I headlined this, you know. But anyway, I called Director
Speaker 2: D and asked them to change, you know, to postpone
Speaker 2: my account. And the girl you know from the director
Speaker 2: be sounded so cute and I'm like, uh and I
Speaker 2: might go you know, uh, you know, She's like, wow,
Speaker 2: I was some in Alabama. I'm gonna she sounded so
Speaker 2: cute and I was like, you know, which usually means
Speaker 2: that you know, she's not cute. But it turns out
Speaker 2: if she followed me on Facebook, and then she came
Speaker 2: to the Atlanta Punch Law and you know, we had
Speaker 2: sex and uh and after sex, she said, you know,
Speaker 2: you'll have free direct TV for life.
Speaker 3: I guess I guess you did well with that. Uh
Speaker 3: you had to have made her happy to get free
Speaker 3: direct TV for life. Uh, that's that's yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I and then I you know what. And
Speaker 2: then I you know, I got the second base with
Speaker 2: free you know, uh, you know, the basketball package. I
Speaker 2: got the third base with free Telemundo. I mean, besides
Speaker 2: those those last jokes, everything is true, and you know,
Speaker 2: and you know it was crazy. I had a great
Speaker 2: time in Atlanta and uh, you know, you know, God
Speaker 2: bless my brother.
Speaker 3: Oh listen, man, look if you're back in this area again,
Speaker 3: uh you know, look, look me up. I'm on you know,
Speaker 3: Twitter and Facebook and all that too. But you know,
Speaker 3: obviously I'd love to just be able to shake your
Speaker 3: hands somewhere and again, thank you for for many, many
Speaker 3: years of just good stuff that you know, sometimes the
Speaker 3: world gets pretty dark man, and comedians are absolutely necessary,
Speaker 3: and you with the niche that you carved out for yourself.
Speaker 3: First of all, you should be an inspiration to anybody
Speaker 3: who you know, goes into a situation thinking they can't
Speaker 3: succeed at something because of some sort of limitation to
Speaker 3: begin with. But also, man, just forget it. Whether you
Speaker 3: stuttered or not, you're just damn funny dude. I love you,
Speaker 3: and and I'll say I'll say this. If the listeners
Speaker 3: didn't enjoy this discussion, I'm sorry, but this was for me.
Speaker 3: So it is what it is, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: the audiobook. Brother, I am gonna get it. So you
Speaker 3: go ahead and do your thing. And again, man, you know,
Speaker 3: just reach out to me anytime you want. Brother, we
Speaker 3: will bring you back on and talk about whatever it
Speaker 3: is you want.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks so much, Shuck, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Absolutely stuttering. John Melendez again, the guy who you know
Speaker 3: got through to Trump, the guy who was on the
Speaker 3: Stern Show for all those years, Jay Leno's band announcer,
Speaker 3: all that stuff, starting out really as an intern on
Speaker 3: the Howard Stern Show. When he came to show business.
Speaker 3: I mean he started out before that as like a
Speaker 3: local musician and all that in the Tri State area. Again,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a remarkable story in and of itself.
Speaker 3: But he's also pretty funny as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: The fact that he would go out and just knock
Speaker 3: some of these you know, over pampered celebrities right off
Speaker 3: of their perch. The name of the book is easy
Speaker 3: for you to say. And it's got like a red
Speaker 3: and yellow cover. I'm gonna give you, guys that that
Speaker 3: image is on the show template for tonight, in the
Speaker 3: next hour, we are going to bring on Ted Metz,
Speaker 3: who is the Libertarian governors excuse me, the Libertarian Party
Speaker 3: candidate governor for Georgia. And you know, I meant to
Speaker 3: bring Ted on a few more times before the selection
Speaker 3: day tomorrow, but it's it's time we catch up with
Speaker 3: Ted and find out what's going on. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of things going on in Georgia politics, and I'm willing
Speaker 3: to bet that a lot of people in the US
Speaker 3: can relate to what's happening here. But but it was
Speaker 3: really a serious privilege to have stuttering John on again.
Speaker 3: A big thanks to Ed Opperman, who actually passed along
Speaker 3: the initial contact for me to be able to get
Speaker 3: him on the show. And I'm very very sure that
Speaker 3: was a different interview than what you got with Opperman.
Speaker 3: I didn't listen to Opperman's interview, but if you're listening
Speaker 3: to both shows, I can guarantee you it didn't go
Speaker 3: in the same direction. And you know what I got,
Speaker 3: I got a lamp and you gotta take tom to
Speaker 3: objectively take a look at what it is that John
Speaker 3: did there. When it came to the Trump pone call again,
Speaker 3: I can't even think of a better way to go
Speaker 3: in and you know, sort of throw a little bit
Speaker 3: a sho aid on the situation. Look at how easy
Speaker 3: it was to endfiltrate into the communications of the President
Speaker 3: of the United States to get them to call you back.
Speaker 3: Jared Kushner calls him back, you know, and then Trump
Speaker 3: himself winds up talking to him and congratulating him for,
Speaker 3: you know, getting off on his whole corruption charge and
Speaker 3: everything else, because he thinks he's Senator Bob Menendez. Now, honestly, yes, John, technically,
Speaker 3: in a very technical sort of sense, if he was
Speaker 3: impersonating a public official in order to gain something monetarily
Speaker 3: or to make profit, he might have been in trouble.
Speaker 3: But I gotta say, man, it is just amazing to
Speaker 3: me that he was able to pull this off. So
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: to my break early and see if we can get
Speaker 3: ted Matt's early and give him a little extra time
Speaker 3: on the Ocelli effect tonight, and hopefully you guys will
Speaker 3: stick around and listen to that, because I know that's
Speaker 3: gonna be an interesting discussion anyway, stick around, guys. I'll
Speaker 3: be back after this short break, and we will continue
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Speaker 3: Normally this would be the second hour of the Effect,
Speaker 3: but we abbreviated the first hour to a lot more time.
Speaker 3: I'm for Ted Metz, who is the Libertarian Party's candidate
Speaker 3: for governor in the state of Georgia. Now, you guys
Speaker 3: might have if you're following the political storm as of late,
Speaker 3: you know in national news, have noticed that hey Georgia
Speaker 3: is actually on the map regarding discussions, lawsuits, voter suppression exactly.
Speaker 3: How racist was the robo call that went out? All
Speaker 3: of that happening, Oprah Winfrey, you know what. Trump was
Speaker 3: here on Sunday. So Georgia getting a lot of attention. However,
Speaker 3: Ted Metz, you know, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Still not getting the attention he should be getting, and
Speaker 3: we're here to do that. You can hear that noise
Speaker 3: that's Ted in his office, and I am dying to
Speaker 3: hear what you have to say about what's going on,
Speaker 3: because you know, interesting reactions on Twitter and things like that.
Speaker 3: I want to throw all of this on the table.
Speaker 3: What's happening regarding you know, voters. We've been told that
Speaker 3: there is literally a double in turnout for the the
Speaker 3: the absentee ballots coming in in advance of what's happening.
Speaker 3: I think that the pundits have no idea what's really
Speaker 3: in the voting pool this year. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: if it's Abrams or Kemp, and Kemp I despise more
Speaker 3: than Abrams. But you know, I'm not a blue or
Speaker 3: red guy, Ted, and I think anybody who is listening
Speaker 3: to this show, quite honestly, is either gonna stay home
Speaker 3: or vote for you, and that that is an interesting
Speaker 3: you know, if you're in Georgia, obviously, that that is
Speaker 3: an interesting situation to be in. And they have mentioned
Speaker 3: in your press releases lately, or not your press releases,
Speaker 3: I should say, press releases where you're involved, that this
Speaker 3: is the guy who's not gonna win, but he's got
Speaker 3: something to say. I think all bets are off. I
Speaker 3: think we have no idea what's going on here, and
Speaker 3: we're not gonna know until well, you know, they purge
Speaker 3: the rest of the ballots, whatever new way they're gonna do,
Speaker 3: or hack each other or whatever else is going on.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, you've actually run an honest campaign, So huh, Stringe.
Speaker 4: It's easy to be honest when you've got no money,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Ah Okay, but Ted, you know, first of all, I
Speaker 3: know you're involved in a lot more things other than
Speaker 3: just your own campaign, But let's get a snapshot of
Speaker 3: what's happening here. I had you on before and we
Speaker 3: talked about some of the basics, but I want to
Speaker 3: just kind of shut up and get an update from you,
Speaker 3: because hey, you know what Tomorrow is the day. So
Speaker 3: you know where are we at.
Speaker 4: Well, we're like twenty four hours or so away from
Speaker 4: actually knowing the direction of the of the election. It's
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that it's not going to be nearly as
Speaker 4: tight as people think it is. I just realized that
Speaker 4: you may not be able to hear me. My audio
Speaker 4: is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can hear you, okay, Ted, I mean all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that I'm speaking into
Speaker 4: the microphone because I have a tendency to move around.
Speaker 4: I think I have a lot of thoughts on this
Speaker 4: because all the things that you went over in the
Speaker 4: introduction there just I actually like streamed and wrote like
Speaker 4: a page full of notes about what really is going on.
Speaker 4: I don't know where to start, but I started with
Speaker 4: the media steerage is my first note. Isn't interesting that
Speaker 4: the media seems to be steering us into choosing an
Speaker 4: extreme polarized left and an extreme polarized right, and they're
Speaker 4: using Georgia as an experiment to see how fomented we
Speaker 4: can get into some sort of a race war to
Speaker 4: start World War three or the Civil War two. I
Speaker 4: don't know what your thoughts are on that, but it
Speaker 4: seems like we're the laughing stock of the other fifty states.
Speaker 4: The shows US as being backwards and racist and and
Speaker 4: you know, tyrannical. I mean, look at the things, all
Speaker 4: of the things that Brian Kemp has has shirked in
Speaker 4: his responsibilities under the oath of office that he took
Speaker 4: to maintain a certain level of data integrity, voter integrity,
Speaker 4: process integrity. And he's just been the giant. I was
Speaker 4: almost gonna say, fuck up that that would be in polite.
Speaker 4: If I was his employer, I would have fired him
Speaker 4: a long time ago for insubordination, dereliction of duty, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 4: Right on down the list thirteen lawsuits that I know
Speaker 4: of about his handling of the Secretary of State's office,
Speaker 4: specifically within the voter district, you know, all the voting responsibilities.
Speaker 3: Well, right now, now that's that's point number one here.
Speaker 3: Why do I say that I actually despise the GOP
Speaker 3: candidate more because his corruption is so much more evident
Speaker 3: at the moment to me. Now that's not to say
Speaker 3: that the blue candidate's any better, but you know, but
Speaker 3: actually she kind of is because she hasn't had this
Speaker 3: opportunity to literally steer the vote during a time when
Speaker 3: she's running for governor in the same way that Kemp has.
Speaker 3: And I think people fail to recognize what's happened here.
Speaker 3: Is this a b a test for the rest of
Speaker 3: the country. Is this the way that this is meant
Speaker 3: to go? And and after all, on the other side
Speaker 3: of the equation, what in the world does bringing Mississippi
Speaker 3: politics to Georgia mean? I mean, we must admit that
Speaker 3: in Georgia the conventional wisdom is kind of on its
Speaker 3: way out the window. Ted, So this is good news
Speaker 3: for you, really because it opens up the field a
Speaker 3: little bit to where maybe people are starting to see
Speaker 3: that this process is just a tug of war between
Speaker 3: you know, the.
Speaker 4: Most power or who has the most power.
Speaker 3: And control or the most money to spend to smear
Speaker 3: the other one, which is another thing that's going on.
Speaker 3: And by the way, they spent money so that when
Speaker 3: I go on YouTube, Ted, that every commercial I get
Speaker 3: is a Georgia governor commercial for one of the two
Speaker 3: of them. That that's you know, so that's the money
Speaker 3: there that they spent. Every every television that I have
Speaker 3: heard from in the past two months, is continuously inundated
Speaker 3: with these commercials. And and I'm in Macon, so this
Speaker 3: is an interesting area where they've absolutely flooded these campaign commercials.
Speaker 3: It's cost a lot of money. You know, there's that
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: Is there a fifty to fifty to fifty percent Democrat
Speaker 4: fifty percent Republican or is it like one sided and skewed?
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I'm seeing a lot more. I've heard that
Speaker 3: the Democrats have spent more money, But where I'm sitting
Speaker 3: and making it looks to me like the GOP did
Speaker 3: because I'm getting a lot more kemp ads about.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a responsible Now does that have something
Speaker 4: to do with the way that they can steer the
Speaker 4: algorithm to serve you exactly the echo chamber that you
Speaker 4: want to be in.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know what it could be is that, like, socially,
Speaker 3: I'm probably getting both because the algorithm would reveal if
Speaker 3: it's accurate that on a social level, I probably lean
Speaker 3: a little more toward the blue side. But when it
Speaker 3: comes to things like the Second Amendment, when it comes
Speaker 3: to you know, deregulation and things like that, I do
Speaker 3: lean a little more to the red side.
Speaker 4: And sounds like your a libertarian there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what that sounds like. I've only ever
Speaker 3: registered as an independent or libertarian pulled disclosure, I've never
Speaker 3: registered as a Democrat or Republican. And people gave me
Speaker 3: crap because I said recently again that the only president
Speaker 3: that I voted for was Clinton in the nineties. I
Speaker 3: literally have stayed home during a lot of these races,
Speaker 3: and when I voted for Clinton in the nineties, they're like, oh, see,
Speaker 3: that's you revealing your liberal side. You know what I've
Speaker 3: forgot to mention when I said that is that every
Speaker 3: other switch in that polling booth was actually pulled GOP
Speaker 3: or libertarian. There were two libertarian candidates I voted for
Speaker 3: on a local level, and then everybody else was GOP
Speaker 3: when I did that. So there's me revealing my entire
Speaker 3: sheet of stuff when I did this for Clinton years ago.
Speaker 3: So you know, tell me who I am again? Yeah, try.
Speaker 4: Well again. It sounds like like it's more of a
Speaker 4: principal thing. And and they value set things. See, that's
Speaker 4: the thing that that they when we really sit down
Speaker 4: and talk about value sets, all all parties agree on
Speaker 4: a lot of things that are just like basic human
Speaker 4: right kind of values things. And everybody also agrees that
Speaker 4: the government has has has just so become corrupt with
Speaker 4: all kinds of scandal, but not only scandal, but also
Speaker 4: political favoritism that goes both ways. Everybody's getting rich. And
Speaker 4: Harry Truman said, the only way you get rich in
Speaker 4: politics is this fear of crook. We have. We have
Speaker 4: a den of crooks, a den of thieves, and they're
Speaker 4: all out for themselves and their buddies and and the
Speaker 4: taxpayer be damned. They'll let their special interest groups come
Speaker 4: in and and and lobby build force to build through
Speaker 4: the through then either the Senator or the House, and
Speaker 4: and it gets passed. And they get special privileges to
Speaker 4: do things that other people would be going to jail
Speaker 4: for ordinarily. Or if they avoid taxation, they avoid pollution regulations,
Speaker 4: they avoid other regulations that everyone else has to adhere to.
Speaker 4: And that's that's why I want to really push to
Speaker 4: get equal application of the law across the board by
Speaker 4: by like lessening qualified immunity for elected officials so they
Speaker 4: can be sued or prosecuted just like the rest of us.
Speaker 3: Aunts Well, see, and I agree with you across the
Speaker 3: board when it comes to this, I think even these
Speaker 3: policy enforcers that we call police should also be held accountable.
Speaker 9: You know, anybody, before you say go on, I'm going
Speaker 9: to say that those are the revenue generators, also known
Speaker 9: as road pirates. That's christ piracy, it's absolute piracy. And
Speaker 9: we have one hundred and fifty nine pirate kingdoms in
Speaker 9: the state, and every one of them is a boss hog,
Speaker 9: pork barrel, buddy buddy network, and everybody's like raping the taxpayer.
Speaker 4: That's why Georgians are broke. That's why we have no prosperity,
Speaker 4: is because they're sucking it out of us. And what
Speaker 4: they don't suck out of us, they're given away to
Speaker 4: some corporation that can rape us even more well.
Speaker 3: And here is the other thing is that I noticed
Speaker 3: the behavior of the sheriffs in Georgia. Now I've only
Speaker 3: been observing this the past couple of years, but the
Speaker 3: sheriffs are a little more on the level than these
Speaker 3: people that are allegedly the police, you know, in quotes
Speaker 3: in different areas. Uh, it seems like, yeah, the police
Speaker 3: in Georgia are here to generate revenue and uh and
Speaker 3: and give justification to other government agencies to get involved
Speaker 3: in people's lives. Uh, so that you know, jobs can
Speaker 3: be created there. You know, you social workers need somebody
Speaker 3: to report alleged mouthfeasance to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got to keep the private prison in the
Speaker 4: private probation system in business.
Speaker 3: Do yeah, right, especially when you know Brown and Williams
Speaker 3: is still mad about their prison over there, right that
Speaker 3: they created and now there's no smoking in it, so
Speaker 3: it's a big issue for them. Uh But but anyway,
Speaker 3: you know, here here we go, this is inside Georgia stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's weird because I think that that you're exactly
Speaker 3: on point here when you're saying that this is a
Speaker 3: beta test for what's going to come nationally. Is you know,
Speaker 3: is this really something that Georgia needs to worry about
Speaker 3: when it comes to immigration? You know, Trump came to
Speaker 3: the rally here and making uh yesterday, right, and he's
Speaker 3: talking immigration and uh, you know, and Abrams is talking
Speaker 3: Oprah and uh.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, let me let me address immigration for
Speaker 4: a second, because that's something that I really feel as
Speaker 4: a fundamental human right to be able to go wherever
Speaker 4: you want to go, whenever you want to go. There,
Speaker 4: if we had if we had a flat sales tax
Speaker 4: on everything, no income tax, and no other kind of
Speaker 4: taxation other than uh, I want to say, consumption tax,
Speaker 4: then who what doesn't matter? If if everything's everyone's paying
Speaker 4: into the pie based on what they consume, that's a
Speaker 4: lot fairer system. And then that way we can eliminate
Speaker 4: income tax and all this other stuff. And that way
Speaker 4: it wouldn't matter who's in the country or not, because
Speaker 4: they're paying the same thing everybody else.
Speaker 3: Days. Well, let me ask you this, ded because here's
Speaker 3: here's where I don't sound so loo again, guys. Ready,
Speaker 3: uh to me, it seems as though there is a
Speaker 3: reasonable argument for for although it's an invisible line created
Speaker 3: by you know, the powers that be, there's a reasonable
Speaker 3: argument for controlling the flow of people in because otherwise
Speaker 3: people could utilize it in a strategic sense to create
Speaker 3: an imbalance.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Well, let's stop. Let's stop that that for a second,
Speaker 4: because you know I wanted I want to I'm going
Speaker 4: to address two things. First and foremost, I am I'm
Speaker 4: totally on board with making screening people as they come in.
Speaker 4: Let's find out who the hell they are, what their
Speaker 4: intention to be here is, where they're going to go
Speaker 4: and and you know, let's keep track of them. Otherwise,
Speaker 4: let them in, let them participate in taxation through sales
Speaker 4: tax only if we eliminate the income tax. But then
Speaker 4: the other thing about that is if if we actually
Speaker 4: went back to vital As the guy who wrote the
Speaker 4: definitive textbook on what citizenship is, how it works, how
Speaker 4: it's defined, and everyone accepted that back in the seventeen hundreds,
Speaker 4: and that's the basis of which all of the constitutional
Speaker 4: law is written about immigration. It was intentional that they
Speaker 4: did not restrict in the Constitution that the only thing
Speaker 4: they put in the Constitution about anything about foreigners was
Speaker 4: naturalization and citizenship. They don't have anything in there. They
Speaker 4: have no power to control any kind of immigration at all.
Speaker 4: And that's just the fact. America was built on immigration.
Speaker 4: If you're black in America, if you're white in America,
Speaker 4: you're here as an immigrant, whether you want it to
Speaker 4: be here or not. But you're still an immigrant. You know,
Speaker 4: the Native Americans and the South Americans roamed this entire
Speaker 4: continent long before the first white men showed up on
Speaker 4: Plymouth Rock. So the whole concept of migration is another
Speaker 4: one of those things that the creators recognized as an
Speaker 4: une leenable right granted by our creator, the freedom to travel.
Speaker 4: I do not want to see any kind of restrictions
Speaker 4: anywhere other than okay, you're you're okay to come in
Speaker 4: because you haven't committed any murders or rapes or you know,
Speaker 4: larceny or fraud. Come on, come on in, sign in.
Speaker 4: Let us know where you're going to be. Do you
Speaker 4: understand my perspective because I like to travel. If I
Speaker 4: want to go to Amsterdam, you know, I just want
Speaker 4: to get on a bus and go there.
Speaker 3: No, listen, I I totally understand. It's I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously to go to Amsterdam, you're going to require more
Speaker 3: than a bus.
Speaker 4: But it's here. Here's the most important thing about immigration,
Speaker 4: As you well know, everything in America, as far as
Speaker 4: government and promised future liabilities like Medicare, social Security and
Speaker 4: veterans benefits, pensions and all this stuff is based on
Speaker 4: a Ponzi scheme. And a Ponzi scheme has to be
Speaker 4: fed by increasing numbers of the base to keep the
Speaker 4: top above water. We don't have the replacement rate because
Speaker 4: people aren't having families. They're not they're not having kids
Speaker 4: enough to feed the need for the future liabilities. We
Speaker 4: desperately need immigrants to come here, fill in the gaps
Speaker 4: and get us get our population at you know, we're
Speaker 4: like almost zero population growth. We need to be like
Speaker 4: like like a population growth of three percent or better
Speaker 4: just to maintain what we've got. We need five to
Speaker 4: ten percent to continue to grow our economy right and
Speaker 4: feed all the future liabilities. So Vital's rules on citizenship
Speaker 4: is a person born in the country is the citizenship
Speaker 4: of their parents, which means there really is no such
Speaker 4: thing as birthright citizenship. The birthright citizenship in the fourteenth
Speaker 4: Amendment was meant strictly for the African Americans who had
Speaker 4: been slaves, the free slaves. That's the only thing that
Speaker 4: that means right. And that was not change. They otherwise
Speaker 4: did not change the rules of citizenships as as known
Speaker 4: as agreed upon during the time at which the documents
Speaker 4: were originally written.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing is that the fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 3: which you know, let's do away with it, was absolutely
Speaker 3: necessary because there was a legal definition, uh you know,
Speaker 3: which which needed to be rewritten, and it required a
Speaker 3: constitutional amendment in order to do it. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the the the people that were brought here from Africa
Speaker 3: or other places in bondage quite honestly did not have
Speaker 3: a legal designation that could have allowed them to even
Speaker 3: begin to participate in the system without it. So I
Speaker 3: don't understand.
Speaker 4: But if they if they had just lift at what
Speaker 4: it was their their children who were born on soil
Speaker 4: would have their grandchildren would be citizens by birthright according
Speaker 4: to Vital's law of citizenship right. So it was it
Speaker 4: was an immediate cure for a specific group of people.
Speaker 4: But the other things that the fourteenth Amendment did that
Speaker 4: I still like, is like the whole equal protection on
Speaker 4: the under the Law clause, and that's something that is
Speaker 4: not enforced at all at any level of government anymore.
Speaker 3: No, we we literally live in a in a state,
Speaker 3: not just Georgia, but I mean across a country of
Speaker 3: selective enforcement. I mean, let's be honest again. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I've stated as many times if you got the money
Speaker 3: to buy your way out of a situation, and that's
Speaker 3: not the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4: You know, I forgot what they called it. They coined
Speaker 4: the term for that, and I don't remember what it was. Well,
Speaker 4: something like affluence, affluenza or some shit.
Speaker 3: Oh well, affluenza is you know, I'm so privileged and
Speaker 3: so used to getting away with everything that I continue
Speaker 3: to do it, and therefore I'm not guilty based on
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, okay, that nonsense. But uh but that's
Speaker 3: what that comes out of. Is this this pay for
Speaker 3: play justice system, which you know, again is wholly ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, you know, I changed, I changed the
Speaker 4: way I say the pledge of allegiance to I. I
Speaker 4: I rescind my allegiance to the flag of the Corporation
Speaker 4: of America and to the corporations for which they stand
Speaker 4: one nation divided with liberty and justice for Salem.
Speaker 3: Which which is adequate it especially when you are pledging
Speaker 3: allegiance allegedly to a war banner. I think people don't
Speaker 3: recognize that either, is that there's actually, you know, a
Speaker 3: different formation that flag is supposed to be in if
Speaker 3: we're not at war.
Speaker 4: But that has here's attentive information. A lot of people
Speaker 4: don't know the reason that we're in Afghanistan is because
Speaker 4: they have trillions of dollars worth of rare metals, precious metals,
Speaker 4: gempstones and other materials that are useful for industrial processes
Speaker 4: that we'd like to control around the world with one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty nine countries with boots on the ground
Speaker 4: of one hundred and ninety five countries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which again is the spread of what I call
Speaker 3: the American Empire. And look, let's make no bones about this.
Speaker 3: Afghanistan also provides access to opium, which another business that
Speaker 3: does fuel.
Speaker 4: For I advocate for medical cannabistry to have put a
Speaker 4: tent in the opioid crisis.
Speaker 3: Well, that's where I was going next. Obviously, you know
Speaker 3: the thing is we still have an outlaw plant.
Speaker 4: You know, well, let's talk about that from it. Because
Speaker 4: the prohibition of alcohol required a constitutional amendment, they should
Speaker 4: have similarly required a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of marijuana. Therefore,
Speaker 4: you know, the whole law all the way until it
Speaker 4: was repealed from nineteen thirty seven until nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 4: when Comicky Leary fought the Supreme Court to uphold the
Speaker 4: right to not incriminate yourself under the Fifth Amendment for
Speaker 4: the reason to repeal actually strike down the Marijuana Stampact
Speaker 4: in nineteen thirty seven, so they immediately had the Drug
Speaker 4: Enforcement Act of nineteen seventy ready to go, and that
Speaker 4: created the DEA. The DEA scheduled the plants and the
Speaker 4: Schedule one. Definition of a dangerous drug is something that
Speaker 4: has no medical benefits, is highly addictive, and is subject
Speaker 4: to abuse. And none of those things fit marijuana. So
Speaker 4: that fast bogus, and everything that follows as bogus. So
Speaker 4: you know, if we really fought the fraud of the law,
Speaker 4: we could probably win more often in court other than
Speaker 4: dury nullification. Under Georgia law, Article one, Section one, clause
Speaker 4: eleven in the Constitution says the jury shall be the
Speaker 4: jury the judges of the law and of the facts,
Speaker 4: which means if we think the law is stupid, we
Speaker 4: can acquit.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely correct. What's interesting to me here is that, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to try and step back and be objective
Speaker 3: here when it comes to cannabis. Okay, clearly though, I
Speaker 3: mean pull disclosure. I find it entirely ridiculous that this
Speaker 3: is not something that is just not involved with the
Speaker 3: government at all, that this is, you know, something you
Speaker 3: should be able to just deal with on your own
Speaker 3: any which way you see fit.
Speaker 4: But did you listen to my three minute sound clip
Speaker 4: that I posted about that.
Speaker 3: Well, I've listened to you speak about it a few times,
Speaker 3: which is why I'm setting up for this.
Speaker 4: Well, I want to go ahead, I'll I'll give my line. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm now I'm going to turn into comedian for a second.
Speaker 4: We did a roundtable debate at the Georgia Beer Garden
Speaker 4: shout out to the Georgia Beer Garden, right right in
Speaker 4: the heart of the fourth Word, across the parking lot
Speaker 4: from Ebenezer Baptist Church, right here in downtown Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 4: We had a they had set up a meet debate
Speaker 4: watch party, and after after Abrams pulled out because Kent
Speaker 4: pulled out, we were left with a venue that nobody
Speaker 4: was going to show up at. So we went and
Speaker 4: did a debate there with a Republican Travis Colvaughan, who
Speaker 4: I've known for a while from the thirty eighth Senate district,
Speaker 4: and Franz Swan, the Agriculture Commissioner candidate from the Democrat party,
Speaker 4: who sat down and had a civil conversation that had fun.
Speaker 4: And of course I was asked what's my position on marijuana?
Speaker 4: And I this is what I had to say about it.
Speaker 4: I said, that, you know, like other things that have
Speaker 4: scientifically proven therapeutic benefit, marijuana is life masturbation. Kids shouldn't
Speaker 4: get punished for doing it, adults should do it in private,
Speaker 4: and the government shouldn't be involved at all.
Speaker 3: Which again is exactly the position. I wouldn't have articulated
Speaker 3: it like that, But I bet you got some tension
Speaker 3: that way. Uh, And and you know what, hopefully you
Speaker 3: provoke some thought because here here's the reality though, anything
Speaker 3: that that that one of those things that you mentioned
Speaker 3: there where you know, oh, it's it's something that is.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what, abuse, scientifically proven abuse.
Speaker 3: No anything but ted anything is subject to abuse. Okay,
Speaker 3: Let's let's be honest. If you have the type of
Speaker 3: personality you can abuse anything.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: The caffeine sugar, Okay, stuff that's legally available.
Speaker 4: Is an example of of O ding on on taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3: Right. But but what I'm saying here is that objectively,
Speaker 3: one could say that that is the only part of
Speaker 3: this that the cannabis could possibly fit into. But then again,
Speaker 3: what doesn't the.
Speaker 4: Way that particular schedule works is it has to meet
Speaker 4: all three criterion.
Speaker 3: Well, right, that's why I was going to move on
Speaker 3: to another one and ask you, you know, listen, Honestly,
Speaker 3: the the idea that medical benefits are not you know,
Speaker 3: are not observable, that is ridiculous. The only reason why
Speaker 3: that hasn't allowed to stick is because what the government
Speaker 3: doesn't allow the tests to be run by their you know,
Speaker 3: supposedly verifiable facilities. Their own facilities can't even run the
Speaker 3: tests without special permission. You got one farm that's allowed
Speaker 3: to grow it, for one lab that's allowed to test it, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, And and how many headlines have come out
Speaker 3: of those results. None, But all across the world, people
Speaker 3: have effectively turned around and figured out, listen, we don't
Speaker 3: need to make this a criminal activity. This is just
Speaker 3: something that hey, you know what, it's just you tolerated
Speaker 3: and it doesn't really do any harm.
Speaker 4: Look even between Mexico just legalized it completely legalized all
Speaker 4: all cannabis. Canada just is has had did too. I mean,
Speaker 4: like here we are in the middle, and the thing is,
Speaker 4: I really think we can force it by by by
Speaker 4: clogging up the court system demanding a jury trial, and
Speaker 4: they'n getting the jury to try to convict somebody of
Speaker 4: doing something that they'd be doing if they weren't sitting
Speaker 4: in the courtroom. And and that's the thing is I mean,
Speaker 4: there's no victim. If there's no victim, there's no crime.
Speaker 4: And that goes across the board for any anything you're
Speaker 4: charged with. If there is not a definable victim or
Speaker 4: a habeas corpus, If there is no corpus, there is
Speaker 4: no crime. There has to be a victim.
Speaker 3: Well, see that, that is the question that needs to
Speaker 3: be asked regarding this as far as criminal charges being
Speaker 3: brought against somebody for possession, because here's the thing. The
Speaker 3: big questions should be, I would like to see the
Speaker 3: party or the damaged property, because as far as I
Speaker 3: can tell, those are the only two ways that somebody
Speaker 3: can be run through the system in that way is
Speaker 3: if you have damaged property or an injured party.
Speaker 4: Well, on the other other thing also about this is
Speaker 4: nobody fights on men's rea. If you don't have a
Speaker 4: guilty conscious about it, I mean you should be vocal
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything wrong with this. It makes
Speaker 4: me feel good. It released my pain. I can't afford
Speaker 4: regular medications. This is the right thing for me. And
Speaker 4: that's that's like this, I'm not guilty because I I
Speaker 4: don't feel like as if I'm doing anything wrong. That's
Speaker 4: that's another another defense that has to be also, you know,
Speaker 4: appeal to the to the sense of justice of the jurors.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of this is railroaded. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: but go ahead, well then please chuck.
Speaker 3: Well, no, but this is this is correct also. But
Speaker 3: what's amazing to me is that, uh, quite honestly, let's
Speaker 3: let's get real about it. Most people that are facing
Speaker 3: these kinds of charges simply do not have the wherewith
Speaker 3: all to begin to fight. And therefore, figure, look, if
Speaker 3: I surrender enough, and if I give in, and maybe
Speaker 3: I can plead down and I can make a deal
Speaker 3: so that I don't have to go to prison for
Speaker 3: this possession.
Speaker 4: We have to stop. We have to we have to
Speaker 4: stop the government from from extorting money out of us
Speaker 4: through fear of I'm gonna lose my job, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to pay in a fine. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: the thing about getting in trouble for something that you
Speaker 4: shouldn't be in trouble for in the first place. Really,
Speaker 4: we need to stand up for principle of and the
Speaker 4: principle is government is not empowered to try to tax
Speaker 4: us through crime that there's nothing wrong with. And again,
Speaker 4: that's why we need to we need to inform people
Speaker 4: that sixty six percent of the voting population recently surveyed
Speaker 4: said that they are in favor of full legalization of marijuana. Mhm,
Speaker 4: sixty six percent. So if you got sixty six percent
Speaker 4: of those people in your jury, you're not gonna get
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get convicted. And that's why I say
Speaker 4: we really need to start taking all of the cases
Speaker 4: for possession all the way through the jury trial and
Speaker 4: appeal to the jury that you're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything wrong. Sixty percent of the population,
Speaker 4: sixty six percent of the population says this should be legal.
Speaker 4: I should not be here, I should not be before
Speaker 4: you in court. I should not be charged with the
Speaker 4: possession of a plant that God made that is the
Speaker 4: most special beneficial plant on the entire planet. You know,
Speaker 4: we just need to tell them to stop it if
Speaker 4: they if they're not going to stop it legislatively, we
Speaker 4: can do it through civil disobedience. It's just that we
Speaker 4: have to band together as the United whole, you know,
Speaker 4: and instead of being fractioned between you know, team Red
Speaker 4: and team Blue, and forty two percent of voters are
Speaker 4: are independent, thirty Democrat, twenty eight percent Republican. They have
Speaker 4: to they're not the majority anymore. They can't rule us anymore.
Speaker 4: We have to like step out of the boundaries of
Speaker 4: the thinking between the polarization because there is another alternative,
Speaker 4: and that's the Libertarian Party, but there's also the option.
Speaker 4: You know, it's forty two percent of the people don't
Speaker 4: show up to the polls because they don't have a representative.
Speaker 4: And so all my listeners, all the people out there,
Speaker 4: I would like you to consider voting for me, because
Speaker 4: if the forty two percent of people who don't normally
Speaker 4: vote or don't want to vote for either the crappy
Speaker 4: candidates voted for me, I'd make it to the runoffs.
Speaker 4: Because again, Democrats are thirty percent, Republicans are twenty eight percent,
Speaker 4: and the middle is forty two percent. Forty two percent
Speaker 4: is bigger than twenty eight percent. Forty two percent is
Speaker 4: bigger than thirty percent. Vote for me. It's not a
Speaker 4: wasted vote. It'll show the Democrats and Republicans that their
Speaker 4: parties are dead and we don't want them anymore. They
Speaker 4: are too polarizing, they cause too much emotional stress, and
Speaker 4: we're tired of it.
Speaker 3: Well see here here's the thing, Ted, And I'm going
Speaker 3: to tell you because, as I revealed to you, I
Speaker 3: have not voted in a presidential selection because it's just
Speaker 3: so loaded and so skewed and so ridiculous in a
Speaker 3: long time. But I have, I have skipped a bunch
Speaker 3: of votes. And I got to tell you why exactly
Speaker 3: the reason you do out laid out there. There is
Speaker 3: hardly anybody representing me if ever, Okay, ballot continued Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that that was my point, is that they're not
Speaker 3: on the ballot. And here's the thing, get on the ballot.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, But but the problem is this, Okay, And
Speaker 3: and here's here's what I want to hear from you
Speaker 3: and and from anybody who's going to be outside of
Speaker 3: you know that I call them the purple people leads
Speaker 3: because you know, you mix it all together, it's the
Speaker 3: same thing. The same corporate money goes to both sides anyway,
Speaker 3: it's all bought and.
Speaker 4: Paid for, and the campaign contributions come for both sides
Speaker 4: are go to both sides. Yeah, I know, that's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying they got about you know, they got they
Speaker 4: got an opponent on all the races, well right, And and.
Speaker 3: You know you turn around and you go, okay, so
Speaker 3: the coachs do this and Soros does this, and look
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when you take a
Speaker 3: look at it, the major contributors to these campaigns, generally speaking,
Speaker 3: are shared by the alleged opponents. You know, that's right.
Speaker 4: And then we don't even know about the dark money
Speaker 4: and the packs. We got no idea who's funding those, well.
Speaker 3: Right, And you know, with with corporations having a personhood
Speaker 3: or whatever nonsense Citizens United has given us. Now it's
Speaker 3: even worse. Political action committees are erected based on you know,
Speaker 3: all these weird sort of concept you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you ever notice it's like paid for by the camp.
Speaker 4: Thing is I'm going to interrupt you and say, you
Speaker 4: know that, And that's because we're too dumb to realize
Speaker 4: that if there's a lot of money in a campaign,
Speaker 4: those people are bought and paid for and and and
Speaker 4: they're going to be owing the people who elected them
Speaker 4: with their campaign contributions in an equal amount. So if
Speaker 4: they get twelve million dollars for a campaign. You know
Speaker 4: they're gonna got they got to pay off twelve million
Speaker 4: dollars of favors plus some right. Well, here, so if
Speaker 4: we can get people to vote for people with with
Speaker 4: principle that are running with no funds, those are the
Speaker 4: people who are the honest, hardworking people that want to
Speaker 4: represent and want to fix things. The people that are
Speaker 4: getting the huge campaign contributions are sellouts. They've already sold out.
Speaker 4: Otherwise they wouldn't they wouldn't raise the funds.
Speaker 3: Right now, back to the story about why it is.
Speaker 4: Larry Sharp is a hustler. He's been working his ass off,
Speaker 4: so he's earned every every dollar is there's no there's
Speaker 4: no dark money there.
Speaker 3: Listen, I I will take your word for it. But
Speaker 3: but here's the key to me that comes out of
Speaker 3: all this that these these alleged establishment people and and
Speaker 3: well I guess they are establishment. I guess maybe they're
Speaker 3: alleged people. But anyway, the thing is that what I
Speaker 3: hear them doing is preaching to uh to the people,
Speaker 3: telling them what they need to do and everything else
Speaker 3: what's interesting to me and what makes me willing to
Speaker 3: entertain a discussion with you, and also to suggest that
Speaker 3: if you're listening to me in the state of Georgia
Speaker 3: and you are able to vote that that. Look, I
Speaker 3: have never endorsed a political candidate. I want you to
Speaker 3: know that. But I'm gonna say this right now. If
Speaker 3: you are in the state of Georgia and you are
Speaker 3: hearing what I am saying, Ted Metz, is the only
Speaker 3: vote you have for governor that is yours. And here's
Speaker 3: why there is sixty six percent of you know, voting
Speaker 3: adults are telling people that cannabis needs to be legalized. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 3: so you're with the majority. Here's the thing. Ted is
Speaker 3: actually taking into account what the people want that he's
Speaker 3: trying to represent. That is unique enough to make him
Speaker 3: a viable candidate. Now, now, look, you could be you
Speaker 3: could be a liar like anybody else. You could be
Speaker 3: and I'm being just straight as straight to the bone
Speaker 3: as I can get here. You could be somebody who's
Speaker 3: deceptive like anybody else. I don't see that, and I
Speaker 3: happen to know people that in around you. Uh and
Speaker 3: and and I know you're not. You're not just ripping
Speaker 3: off a bunch of lines to do it for an
Speaker 3: act because any of that. But here's the thing. Legitimately,
Speaker 3: we forget all the time that these people, you know,
Speaker 3: we don't put them in power so they can make decisions.
Speaker 3: They are there, okay, to execute the will of the people.
Speaker 3: And that is something that is forgotten by these major parties.
Speaker 3: That is something that is forgotten by a whole lot
Speaker 3: of even some of these allegedly you know, fringe party,
Speaker 3: the Green Party. I looked into all this stuff, believe me,
Speaker 3: and you take a look at it. They are there
Speaker 3: to preach to you and tell you that this this
Speaker 3: is what I have decided, this is what we collectively
Speaker 3: from my party have learned, and all that. But but
Speaker 3: but what did Ted say? Did you catch it? This
Speaker 3: is what the people want, this is what the people need,
Speaker 3: This is the corruption that is there, This is what
Speaker 3: needs to be dealt with. See, that's a different statement.
Speaker 3: That is a different campaign. And I really wish I'd
Speaker 3: been able to get more involved. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you right now on air, in front of everybody that
Speaker 3: I can possibly talk to, if you're gonna try this again,
Speaker 3: if you know, because I mean I would love to
Speaker 3: wake up, you know, on Wednesday morning and find out
Speaker 3: that you're governor. Okay, but but I'm gonna be sad
Speaker 3: and realistic here. I don't think you're gonna make it.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you this, if you want to
Speaker 3: take another shot at it, Okay, give me a way
Speaker 3: to get in with the people that are trying to
Speaker 3: work out your message, because there is a lot of
Speaker 3: missed opportunity here to make that message ring. Ted Mattz
Speaker 3: is going to represent you, not his paymasters. You get it.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell people. But Ted Tech wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: wait one second second. I want that to sync in
Speaker 3: if they are representing you know, listen, you want everything
Speaker 3: to go to the highest bidder. And I don't care
Speaker 3: if it's about you know, guns, or if it's about cannabis,
Speaker 3: or if it's about uh, the fact that you know,
Speaker 3: people have been disenfranchised in this state. And we didn't
Speaker 3: even really get into details on that, Ted, but I
Speaker 3: want you to go there next.
Speaker 4: All right. I want to say this also first that
Speaker 4: one of the things that is a is a huge
Speaker 4: goal of mine for the campaign for the next thing
Speaker 4: I run for is is helping people to understand the function,
Speaker 4: the role and the scope of government and how we
Speaker 4: actually are the ones who should be controlling government, and
Speaker 4: we have ways to demand the government then to our
Speaker 4: will because again they work for us. We can we can,
Speaker 4: we can turn the tables, you know, we can fill
Speaker 4: this matrix upside down. But the thing is a lot
Speaker 4: of people don't understand how it actually works. They don't
Speaker 4: understand the power we have. They don't understand things like
Speaker 4: like the concept of abundance. You know, hemp. I keep
Speaker 4: talking about hemp.
Speaker 3: Hemp.
Speaker 4: Hemp is a product that can be abundant for everyone
Speaker 4: and bring abundance. Abundance means not scarce, not not somebody
Speaker 4: can't control the price of it. It's cheap, it does everything,
Speaker 4: and we could like take you know, trillions of dollars
Speaker 4: off of our national debt by using hemp for different
Speaker 4: things that we currently use oil and coal for. Plus
Speaker 4: he cleans up the environment. So I'll get off that
Speaker 4: high horse. Let's let's go back to this thing about
Speaker 4: voter suppression, because that's really what the topic is, is
Speaker 4: voter suppression. I'm going to ask you real quick if
Speaker 4: you need to take a break at nine thirty.
Speaker 3: No, not at all, tad I can I can run
Speaker 3: this and and I will have to take a break
Speaker 3: at ten o'clock. But I'll tell you what, even if
Speaker 3: you want to run over, we'll go.
Speaker 4: Okay, right, we'll see. That's why I was asking you
Speaker 4: going to take a breakcase I'll like sneak off and
Speaker 4: refresh my beverage. But if you don't, I'll just keep going.
Speaker 3: Listen, right, if you want to take a break and
Speaker 3: repress your beverage, beverage if I can talk now see
Speaker 3: it's stuttering, John on, its screwed me up, all right,
Speaker 3: But if you want to do that, please, by all means,
Speaker 3: go ahead and do it, and we'll take a break.
Speaker 3: It's my network. I can do what I want. And
Speaker 3: you know what, the the the replay people will have
Speaker 3: to figure it out. It's just that simple.
Speaker 4: Just you know, I could get right into it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: let's take a break for like four minutes, you and
Speaker 4: break back on at nine.
Speaker 3: Thirty absolutely ted, Look, unless you want to cut.
Speaker 4: At nine thirty and then go you know, nine thirty
Speaker 4: four or something, I just whatever.
Speaker 3: Listen, we'll do it right now. Go get your drink.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check on a couple of things myself,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna continue this conversation with We're gonna have
Speaker 3: to break again to ten o'clock guaranteed. But the thing is,
Speaker 3: I'll take this break right now, right We're gonna talk.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk all about voter suppression.
Speaker 3: Yes please, because you know this again is the headline story,
Speaker 3: and I know that the whole truth is not getting
Speaker 3: out there. I mean, you know, a big shock from
Speaker 3: the mainstream media. Big shock. They're not telling you the
Speaker 3: whole story. But let's get into that because this is
Speaker 3: of key importance because again, if you're you know, counting
Speaker 3: the votes is one thing, which is which is a problem.
Speaker 3: But but you know, if you're.
Speaker 4: Automatically, who counts the vote is what counts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, he who counts the vote does seem to
Speaker 3: be the victor. But the O'Kelly effect is going to
Speaker 3: continue on here with Ted Metz, who is the Libertarian
Speaker 3: candidate for governor of the state of Georgia here on
Speaker 3: the ocelly effect. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: All right, So a short break there, and it's a
Speaker 3: good thing because I took a short break early in
Speaker 3: the show, so we've got two breaks. Sorry about that,
Speaker 3: but is what it is. Maybe when they take this
Speaker 3: over to a couple other networks, they'll figure out a
Speaker 3: different way to re splice it. I'm continuing my discussion
Speaker 3: with Ted Metz here and again he is the Libertarian
Speaker 3: Parties candidate for the governor of Georgia. And I gotta
Speaker 3: say that when I hear somebody who is willing to
Speaker 3: represent the people, he's already winning in my mind. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen. We got a lot
Speaker 3: of controversy regarding the vote in Georgia. There is suppression.
Speaker 3: The most recent headline, perhaps the Democrats made an attempt
Speaker 3: at hacking the vote, and then the counter is, no,
Speaker 3: we didn't, We just reported it. And I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how to sort it all out, to be honest with you, Ted,
Speaker 3: because well, again, what do we have to rely on
Speaker 3: except these very scripted sources discussing what's going on. Maybe
Speaker 3: you can give us some insights here because I need
Speaker 3: somebody who's gonna be honest about this. And again, when
Speaker 3: it comes to the people that are running for the
Speaker 3: governor's mansion here in Georgia, I don't know if there's
Speaker 3: a mansion or not, but whatever, you're the odes guy.
Speaker 4: It looks like it looks like a Denny's restaurant.
Speaker 3: That's why I said, I don't know if that's a mansion,
Speaker 3: but it is the governor's house and I would I
Speaker 3: would really like to see you occupy it. I'm not,
Speaker 3: you know, holding my breath. Uh, But being that there
Speaker 3: is a lot of chaos going on and now votes
Speaker 3: being reintroduced, I mean, who knows what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3: But uh, and and you know, one other thing, really
Speaker 3: quickly before you go into this, I want you to
Speaker 3: talk about what's actually happening behind the headlines. And I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you guys some links in the chat room,
Speaker 3: uh that you can follow up on and also attach
Speaker 3: them to the podcast, so you can follow up on this,
Speaker 3: make your decision before tomorrow night is over with, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And uh, I would love to
Speaker 3: see a surge for this guy, quite honestly, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put all that in the chat You've had a
Speaker 3: lot to say about it before we go there.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: You know, there's this whole well Gee, Georgia and they're
Speaker 3: getting Hollywood in there, and well, you know, part of
Speaker 3: George's economy actually is thriving because of some of the
Speaker 3: entertainment industry being here. I don't think that's a bad thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe those deals could be recut, but you know, there's
Speaker 3: ways of dealing with this. They filmed The Walking Dead here.
Speaker 3: They make a lot of cartoons here. Gee, what a
Speaker 3: shock O Kelley knows where they make cartoons. But because
Speaker 3: Ted honestly that that's what I watch. I don't really
Speaker 3: watch television, but I do honestly watch cartoons.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of I'm kind of sick that Archer. Archer
Speaker 4: doesn't have a fifth or with ten series a tenth season.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 4: Really, I haven't seen one.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know they had that Danger Island and
Speaker 3: you know I'm waiting to binge on that. And you
Speaker 3: mean to tell me that they might stop. I hope not.
Speaker 3: It's one of the many things that you can find
Speaker 3: the Maiden Georgia logo on. I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: bad thing to bring in. I don't know outside businesses
Speaker 3: to do business in your state. Could those deals make.
Speaker 4: Well, let's let's say one thing about that. And one
Speaker 4: of the things I have to say about that is
Speaker 4: what as a constitutional prohibition on grants of special privilege.
Speaker 4: And that's when you give one group of people or
Speaker 4: a person an economic advantage over someone else, and when
Speaker 4: you go out tax breaks, they we may have some
Speaker 4: benefits on the one hand, but on the other hand,
Speaker 4: you know, everyone else has to pick up the slack
Speaker 4: for those people not paying tax. I know, if we
Speaker 4: just had a consumption tax versus a income tax, of
Speaker 4: everything would be a level playing field. No one would
Speaker 4: be taxed except for when they buy stuff. So on
Speaker 4: the one hand, it's a grant of special privilege because
Speaker 4: here's a group that gets tax breaks, the same thing
Speaker 4: with like offering Amazon tax breaks to lure them. Here,
Speaker 4: who's going to make up for the for the slack
Speaker 4: of a bunch of new people coming in and not
Speaker 4: being into the tax system. You see what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, I know, but you know, this is something to
Speaker 3: me that you know, has been an interesting discussion because
Speaker 3: there are also zones in Georgia where they don't necessarily
Speaker 3: tax the businesses on the same level. Even the sales
Speaker 3: tax is different in certain zones right uh, where you
Speaker 3: have businesses that are benefiting from being in an area
Speaker 3: where they were fleeing before, and they seem to be
Speaker 3: kept in place. Some of these other you know, corporate
Speaker 3: industries will remain around because they got that tax break,
Speaker 3: and even if it's in a bad neighborhood or whatever,
Speaker 3: they can turn around and write it off. Plus they
Speaker 3: didn't have to worry about their sales and use tax
Speaker 3: going sky high while they were doing it, which you know,
Speaker 3: on the one hand, is also a little bit beneficial
Speaker 3: to some residents because if you do it like that,
Speaker 3: it's one thing. But to give give some of these
Speaker 3: tax breaks, you know, I guess it depends on the
Speaker 3: size of it or you know, I don't know. That's
Speaker 3: a debatable issue.
Speaker 4: Well, and and the bottom line for me is you're like,
Speaker 4: nobody should be taxed, but if you're going to tax
Speaker 4: one person, you need to tax everybody. That's just that's
Speaker 4: my sense of fairness.
Speaker 3: No, I understand, I I do. But but then again,
Speaker 3: you know, if you take Georgia out of the running,
Speaker 3: would these industries have come here and therefore generated a
Speaker 3: lot of other business and attention and so on and
Speaker 3: so forth for other industries to come in.
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's why I keep talking about hemp
Speaker 4: again because hemp can do everything that oil can do.
Speaker 4: We can do plastics and paper and and and cosmetics,
Speaker 4: and and soap, and industrial lubricants and and biodiesel and
Speaker 4: other other fuels, and you know, the fiber and and food.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much things you can make with it.
Speaker 4: Then we're bringing all kinds of like high tech jobs
Speaker 4: in to do the plastics and the other chemistry and
Speaker 4: and then the medicine aspect. I mean it would it
Speaker 4: would be a boon to our economy and create millions
Speaker 4: of jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, instantaneously, And for something that has effect altogether. Not
Speaker 3: only that, but it's also environmentally sounded. Let's not forget that.
Speaker 4: Carbon negative carbon negative earth. Earth is a place where
Speaker 4: all of our elements are unfixed quantity, and if you
Speaker 4: transform them from one form to another, like burning oil
Speaker 4: to turn into carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and other other
Speaker 4: things sulfur dioxide and such. Instead, you can use plants
Speaker 4: to suck all that CO two C CEO out of
Speaker 4: the atmosphere and fix the you know, the climate change dilemma,
Speaker 4: and then you can have a biodegradable, bioavailable, renewable, clean energy.
Speaker 3: Source, which is a whole lot healthier than growing you know,
Speaker 3: things like cotton, which actually do damage to the environment.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, cotton is a damaging thing. But look,
Speaker 3: let's not get to.
Speaker 4: Into the Yeah, because I was I was trying to
Speaker 4: think through I was kind of wasting time or actually
Speaker 4: cogitating on where I should start with this whole voter
Speaker 4: suppression issue and the and the fifty three thousand ballots
Speaker 4: that are actually voter registration applications that were allegedly purged.
Speaker 4: They weren't purged, they were just not they were held up.
Speaker 4: But you know, Secretary Kemp has has a long history
Speaker 4: of doing stupid stuff in office. For example, everyone knows
Speaker 4: about the data purge by now because it was ran
Speaker 4: in a story again like a repeat after the handle
Speaker 4: Ossoff race last year. You know, the ass off was
Speaker 4: real controversial because he got like twenty million dollars from
Speaker 4: California and they had like record voter turnout of Democrats,
Speaker 4: yet Handle still magically won. That whole data set was
Speaker 4: erased permanently from the server where it was stored, so
Speaker 4: they don't have a record of what the actual vote was.
Speaker 4: Plus they're using a system, the die Bold system, that
Speaker 4: is so easily hackable anybody could hack it. You know,
Speaker 4: they had actually a ten year old hack it in
Speaker 4: like fifteen seconds at some contest in Washington recently. You know,
Speaker 4: our voting system is not secure to start with, and
Speaker 4: then our data has been exposed Chemp's office. I'm the
Speaker 4: chair of the Libertarian Party Georgia and we actually do
Speaker 4: order voter data, and we got one set of voter
Speaker 4: data that heead Everyone's like driver's license number, solid security card,
Speaker 4: a social security number, phone number, email address, like all
Speaker 4: their data. And that's something that that basically Brian Temp
Speaker 4: blamed somebody in his office for although he was ultimately
Speaker 4: responsible for the data breach. And then we're The system
Speaker 4: that they use is located at Kanasas State University, and
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people who had access to it,
Speaker 4: and it was really easy to get in. The data
Speaker 4: was not secure, it was not behind a firewall, easily hacked.
Speaker 4: You know, the FBI or CIA, I guess hacked it
Speaker 4: before the twenty sixteen elections, just testing to see the
Speaker 4: level of data security they had, and and nobody got
Speaker 4: in trouble for it except for a guy named Lamb
Speaker 4: who worked there, was like a data analyst, was was
Speaker 4: looking at the records and said, somebody has hacked us.
Speaker 4: And then he got in trouble for reporting that they
Speaker 4: even got hacked. So it goes on and on like that.
Speaker 2: And now.
Speaker 4: The most most egregious recent.
Speaker 3: Quick question ted one thing. Though Kemp has already been
Speaker 3: ruled against in court regarding exactly this sort of behavior,
Speaker 3: hasn't he several times and.
Speaker 4: Georgia has spent millions of dollars defending him in court
Speaker 4: for for things just like that.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, no, I was going to get to that.
Speaker 3: Next is what what does that actually cost uh, you know,
Speaker 3: because you have the legal issue of the court itself,
Speaker 3: but also somebody had to represent camp and I'm sure
Speaker 3: that those were provided to him by the state.
Speaker 4: You were pixelating, So I missed some of that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, My point is that there is a lot
Speaker 3: of money that winds up being spent on trying to
Speaker 3: keep track of the guy who's supposed to be keeping
Speaker 3: this on the level. And meanwhile, the intellectual strangeness to
Speaker 3: me of somebody who can see this is why I
Speaker 3: said I'm weighted against the GOP here. Usually I have
Speaker 3: equal disdain for the red and the blue here. But
Speaker 3: in Georgia, the guy who is running the elections is
Speaker 3: running in an election. This just you know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe it's just me and maybe I'm just not quite
Speaker 3: bright enough to understand this, But doesn't that just spell
Speaker 3: out conflict of interest? I mean automatically anyway, before we
Speaker 3: even get into all these other behaviors.
Speaker 4: But well exactly, but but no, you know, but when you.
Speaker 3: See it's like, no, there's just some people here that
Speaker 3: no matter what I think, that that's it, right, It's
Speaker 3: it's okay because he's on he's on the team that
Speaker 3: I that I'm that I was told I should vote.
Speaker 4: For It's well, I don't know if there's if there's
Speaker 4: a gross over assumption that he actually knows anything about
Speaker 4: how to run the system to begin with. I don't
Speaker 4: think he's smart enough to even be able to turn
Speaker 4: a computer on without having the instructions in front of him.
Speaker 4: That's that's me, But I don't he's not. He's not
Speaker 4: a data scientist. He really doesn't know anything about how
Speaker 4: the how the system works. But so somebody else is
Speaker 4: actually running the farm that you know, they got other
Speaker 4: operatives in the back end that are doing things for
Speaker 4: illegal purposes. A friend of mine got a text from
Speaker 4: the from the g o P saying, oh, we noticed
Speaker 4: you haven't voted yet, so he used to get out
Speaker 4: and vote for KEM. They're using real time voter data
Speaker 4: to try who and who on the voter rolls has
Speaker 4: or has not voted yet in real time. Tell me
Speaker 4: that's not kind of some kind of like like uh,
Speaker 4: infraction or abusive of power or abuse of state property.
Speaker 4: Something's going on. I mean, these guys are not are
Speaker 4: not straight.
Speaker 3: It's pretty bizarre. If they can send a text to
Speaker 3: a specific individual to say, we noticed you haven't voted yet. Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, I I used to be under this impressioncy again.
Speaker 3: I got to go back to the old days and
Speaker 3: what they told me in school, right, Well, you know,
Speaker 3: as far as I knew, when you close that curtain,
Speaker 3: because you know, there used to be a booth where
Speaker 3: he closed the curtain. I don't even know they have those.
Speaker 4: And you had a punch card at like a like
Speaker 4: a repeatable, you know, record of what you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that, and you could you knew what you
Speaker 3: were doing. It was a pretty clearly laid out, valid
Speaker 3: and all that. But once you close those curtains. People
Speaker 3: even said, you know, what what I do in that
Speaker 3: voting booth is about as much my business is what
Speaker 3: I do in the bedroom. And that's it. And and
Speaker 3: and you know nobody should know this. And yet what
Speaker 3: you're telling me is they know whether you voted or not. Well,
Speaker 3: does that mean that they know who you voted for?
Speaker 4: Does that mean that, yes, they actually do. I don't
Speaker 4: know how how deep into the data of the people
Speaker 4: who are using it to text actually know, but yeah,
Speaker 4: they have they have to keep a record of that.
Speaker 4: It's it's like a ballot number, so I don't really know.
Speaker 4: I know that they only really marked whether or not
Speaker 4: you participated and drew a ballot. Your actual vote is
Speaker 4: still a secret. They do not know who you voted for.
Speaker 4: All they know is the gross number of votes cast
Speaker 4: based on the ballots they were passed out. That they
Speaker 4: they couldn't really figure out which unless they unless they
Speaker 4: tracked it by time the time that you drew the
Speaker 4: ballot and the time that the ballot was cast. You know,
Speaker 4: if with some reverse engineering it, it may be possible
Speaker 4: to narrow down a group of voters within a time
Speaker 4: frame to tell who voted for who we And there's
Speaker 4: the other intuitive parts of it is you already know
Speaker 4: whether or not they've voted in a primary and pulled
Speaker 4: the Democrat or Republican ballot, so you can narrow it down.
Speaker 3: No, that's true, and therefore can approach you with the
Speaker 3: idea of voting for Camp. But then again, there would
Speaker 3: be no harm in telling every voter to vote for
Speaker 3: Camp if you have access to that sort of data. Huh.
Speaker 4: So, well, that's what I'm saying. I mean that that
Speaker 4: that whole department needs to needs a thorough investigation because
Speaker 4: they're doing something that's not right. Yeah, not only do
Speaker 4: I have I seen evidence like the text I told
Speaker 4: you about, I just have a gut feeling from based
Speaker 4: on the reports that were generated by the data analysts
Speaker 4: and the forensics people that aren't necessarily public distribution, but
Speaker 4: actually give an account of what what the what, what
Speaker 4: kind of server intrusions had occurred. It's it's kind of scary.
Speaker 4: I mean, they control the data, they control the voting machines,
Speaker 4: they can manipulate the voter data. The most the the
Speaker 4: most recent thing that occurred over the weekend was the
Speaker 4: Democrat Party accused the the Republican Party of some kind
Speaker 4: of data manipulation because there was a way to get
Speaker 4: in from my voter page into the voter data of
Speaker 4: the individual voter and manipulate the the records in the
Speaker 4: back end. There's like a direct pipeline to the database
Speaker 4: of of a specific voter voter record. And and the
Speaker 4: d n C called the FBI to investigate, and the
Speaker 4: f and and the and the Secretary of State's office
Speaker 4: called the FBI claiming that the d n C was
Speaker 4: hacking them. Wow, and that's that's the latest scandal for
Speaker 4: right now. We can go. You know, two weeks ago
Speaker 4: you heard all the controversy about the well, the data data,
Speaker 4: the voter purge, the let's start. The voter purge is
Speaker 4: not that big of a deal because on a regular basis,
Speaker 4: under Georgia law, people who have not participated in a
Speaker 4: vote in like six years are required to be purged
Speaker 4: from the voter roles. The majority of those people are
Speaker 4: either dead or moved out of state or have turned
Speaker 4: complete anarchists and they don't care. So that was, you know,
Speaker 4: something that was just like made news headlines. In the meantime,
Speaker 4: Stacy Abrams actually is on the board of directors for
Speaker 4: two different groups that do voter drive sort of things.
Speaker 4: They collect millions of dollars from donors. They pay themselves
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousand dollars a year to basically do nothing
Speaker 4: other than organized volunteers to go out and collect voter
Speaker 4: registration applications. Now, so the the organizations are mostly concentrate
Speaker 4: on suppressed voting areas, and that's code word for, you know,
Speaker 4: they work in black neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me interrupt you. Let me interrupt you
Speaker 3: because I have a question here that I know I'll
Speaker 3: forget in that case, though, what Abrams is doing, regardless
Speaker 3: of how you feel about the fact that they created
Speaker 3: an organization and decided to create paychecks for themselves, the
Speaker 3: idea that they're registering voters wherever they're registering them, Uh,
Speaker 3: that seems to be a little more fair game than
Speaker 3: being able to control the data. And you know, well,
Speaker 3: and well I know that.
Speaker 4: But here's here's the thing that I'm leading up to,
Speaker 4: sure as Stacy Abrams group that was actually collecting the
Speaker 4: voter registration applications that were kicked out by the Gwinnett
Speaker 4: County Board of Elections and the and the and the
Speaker 4: voter applications were collected predominantly in black neighborhoods. And then
Speaker 4: they're bitching about the percentage of black voter registration applications
Speaker 4: that were kicked out. Well, the whole sample was black
Speaker 4: voter registration applications. They can't really bitch about, you know,
Speaker 4: they can't target them for for just discrimination because the
Speaker 4: entire batch was from the black neighborhoods. All of course,
Speaker 4: if there's any bad they're going to be black, because
Speaker 4: that's all that they had. So that's that's like one
Speaker 4: part of that controversy that I just have to to spell.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The other thing is that that Brian Kemp himself was
Speaker 4: the one to put the policy in place to make
Speaker 4: an examt exact match. So like Tom Smith and Thomas Smith,
Speaker 4: if the everything else matches, you know, that's pretty much
Speaker 4: you know, Tom is acceptable for Thomas and vice versa. Right,
Speaker 4: So under the law, well.
Speaker 3: In my case, you got some things that will state
Speaker 3: that I'm Chuck and some things that will state that
Speaker 3: I'm Charles, right right, But but you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, go ahead.
Speaker 4: The actual the actual law states that there must be
Speaker 4: a reasonable match between the information on the voter registration
Speaker 4: application and the data in the Georgia Data system, you know,
Speaker 4: because they got like like a driver's license information from
Speaker 4: me and other things that they have to bits across
Speaker 4: a wide spectrum of databases that they maintained to keep
Speaker 4: track of all of the citizens, like big Brother. So anyway,
Speaker 4: if there's some point that the data that didn't match,
Speaker 4: it's acceptable under the law to okay it. If there
Speaker 4: is not an exact match under Brian Kemp's personal policy,
Speaker 4: then they'd kicked the application. So like the Tom or
Speaker 4: the Chuck o'celly and the Charles Ocelli, they would have
Speaker 4: kicked you out, but under law that didn't have to
Speaker 4: happen because they accept that as a reasonable match.
Speaker 3: So why was that? Yeah, why was that going on?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 3: I mean there must have been a purpose for it.
Speaker 3: What is your read on that?
Speaker 2: All? Right?
Speaker 4: Well, well, there's not really read on it other than,
Speaker 4: of course the Democrats trying to get out the vote,
Speaker 4: which is what they do all the time anyway. That's
Speaker 4: why they outnumber Republicans by two percentage of the total
Speaker 4: voter population Democrat twenty eight percent. So the other point
Speaker 4: of it is it may have been a manufactured crisis.
Speaker 4: The other thing is that they don't train the volunteers
Speaker 4: to collect the registrations to make sure that the applications
Speaker 4: are complete and reasonably match, like the driver's license or
Speaker 4: whatever they have. Then there wouldn't have been an issue.
Speaker 4: There wouldn't have been nearly as much of an issue.
Speaker 4: Now as far as the voter registration application is being rejected,
Speaker 4: all that means is whoever filled one out has to
Speaker 4: show up with proper ID at the voting booth and
Speaker 4: they can still vote. There is no voter just spen disenfranchisement.
Speaker 4: No voters would have been prohibited from voting if they
Speaker 4: had showed up to the poll with proper ID. So
Speaker 4: that's the other thing, you know, the big the controversy
Speaker 4: spun by the news and the Abrams campaign is all
Speaker 4: these voters have been disenfranchised when factually and legally they
Speaker 4: only were required to show up with ID the voting
Speaker 4: at the polls. They were not ever kicked out of
Speaker 4: being able to vote. See what I'm saying this is
Speaker 4: fun by the media to make it a mountain out
Speaker 4: of a of a of a pile of dung.
Speaker 3: Well see, and now you know why Ted Metz was
Speaker 3: not invited to be on CNN even though they're headquarters
Speaker 3: is in Atlanta, because.
Speaker 4: Because I know, because I know the dirt, and I
Speaker 4: understand the spin, and I understand the optics. Right, and
Speaker 4: that's what we need to understand is that we're being played.
Speaker 4: We're being played. Last last year, they repealed the Smith
Speaker 4: Month Act of nineteen forty eight. The Smith Month Act
Speaker 4: specifically prohibited the domestic distribution of propaganda within the United
Speaker 4: States by anybody, including the government. And now everything is fun.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a universal message to everyone that
Speaker 4: we have to you know, pick aside, pick aside, red
Speaker 4: versus blue, you know, socialism versus fascism. And then where
Speaker 4: else in the country is it being illustrated and played
Speaker 4: out more so than in Georgia. You couldn't get a
Speaker 4: better couple of characters, the character actors to illustrate the
Speaker 4: gap between the far right and the far left right.
Speaker 3: No, they are the perfect foils for one another, Ted,
Speaker 3: or a mirror.
Speaker 4: It's an absolute mirror of Trump versus Clinton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I mean and and look, I would just
Speaker 3: you know, again, if everything was all on the level,
Speaker 3: I would say to you that I'd like to see
Speaker 3: what would happen if somebody like Abrams, if she was
Speaker 3: as advertised, you know, take over in a place like
Speaker 3: Georgia where we've had deal for a while. Okay, well
Speaker 3: let me.
Speaker 4: Talk about let me talk Stacey for just a minute,
Speaker 4: because a lot of people don't know that she is
Speaker 4: a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, never mind, Ted. See here's the thing though, Ted,
Speaker 3: if people in the state of Georgia wanted to so government,
Speaker 3: I say they should have it. Uh, you know, that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. No, I understand, but I believe that
Speaker 3: that the will of the people, the educated will of
Speaker 3: the people, mind you, is something that should be observed
Speaker 3: by the representatives. And even if it is not necessarily
Speaker 3: the best idea. Uh, you know, those representatives are there to,
Speaker 3: you know, to really explore the possibilities and present to
Speaker 3: the public what it is that's happening here. Maybe you
Speaker 3: need to understand this or that, but not because they've
Speaker 3: been paid off to do so. I've got only about
Speaker 3: five minutes. Wait. Wait, I've got only about five minutes
Speaker 3: left in this hour. Now, if you want to go
Speaker 3: past this hour, we can do that. But this is
Speaker 3: the normal ending here. And I would like for you
Speaker 3: to sort of a throw at people because we've gone
Speaker 3: through a lot of differences here. You've spoken a lot
Speaker 3: of plain clean truth straight through and again this is
Speaker 3: the guy that I would like to see really win. Okay,
Speaker 3: and uh and and that's it. That's all I got
Speaker 3: to say that. Okay, iached another guy. And I've never
Speaker 3: endorsed a candidate for office on here because quite honestly,
Speaker 3: I've never found one that was honest, uh entirely and
Speaker 3: I've had. I've had a couple of other politicians on here,
Speaker 3: but I I find them, you know, a bit off.
Speaker 4: Let me interrupt your check because I wanted I want
Speaker 4: to get this out before I forget please. A couple
Speaker 4: of months ago, I went to a a Democrat held
Speaker 4: meeting and the future speaker was a guy named doctor
Speaker 4: Drew Weston. Doctor Drew Weston was one of the guys.
Speaker 4: He's a he's a teacher, he's a professor of psychology
Speaker 4: at Emory University, and he was one of the people
Speaker 4: that was on a panel that that that the Obama
Speaker 4: administration had hired to specifically and the state of purpose
Speaker 4: was to steer public opinion, in other words, engage in
Speaker 4: brainwashing mm HM and and I. And with the repeal
Speaker 4: of Smith Mont Act, the fact that the government actually
Speaker 4: has the Department of Psychologists and psychiatrists who helped steer
Speaker 4: public opinion by using trigger words and and and massage
Speaker 4: words to get you thinking about something, to help you
Speaker 4: formulate a conclusion that you wouldn't ordinarily make without being
Speaker 4: massaged to make it. So that's just one of the
Speaker 4: things I want to point out, and the reason I'm
Speaker 4: pointing it out is because I don't know how many
Speaker 4: people have noticed an absence of any of the third
Speaker 4: party or independent candidates in the news. Everything about this
Speaker 4: race has been Abrams and Kemp, Abrams and Kemp and
Speaker 4: and maybe a tenth of the time they might mention
Speaker 4: and libertarian Ted Metz. Yeah right, And I want I
Speaker 4: want to point that out and see if anyone else
Speaker 4: has noticed the lack of coverage and how polarized the
Speaker 4: media is and how skewed they seem to be towards
Speaker 4: one side or the other.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I want to tell you something, Ted Nough,
Speaker 3: This is not something that was created during the Obama administration.
Speaker 3: During the Reagan administration, he had a council of psychiatrists
Speaker 3: and psychologists that were there to help him with his messaging.
Speaker 3: It was done, you know, in a muscle much less
Speaker 3: public fashion than it is today. But how do I
Speaker 3: know this. I actually met a couple of those people.
Speaker 4: You know, and it probably probably knew Brenees. You know,
Speaker 4: they probably went to dinner that Drew Brenees.
Speaker 3: Oh, they could quote that book, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: they quote it. They knew what they were talking about.
Speaker 3: And I encountered him and I knew psychological operation specialists
Speaker 3: when I saw him.
Speaker 2: And Uh.
Speaker 3: But but I'm just saying, this is not something that
Speaker 3: just the Democrats are doing or just the Republicans are doing. Again. Uh,
Speaker 3: I don't see a difference between this purple mass.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm really going with I'm really going there,
Speaker 4: is that in order to maintain control. There's no difference
Speaker 4: really in in in uh, payoffs and lobbyists, in corporate connections,
Speaker 4: in all the payola and and taxpayer dollar redistribution. There's
Speaker 4: no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. If there
Speaker 4: was a difference, we'd have a lot less bills being
Speaker 4: passed to increase the size and scope of government, a
Speaker 4: lot less bills being passed to increase the size and
Speaker 4: scope of taxation, and and a lot less bills being
Speaker 4: passed to give special privileges to some people like you know,
Speaker 4: you can't you can't sue a company for vaccine injury.
Speaker 4: You can't sue a drug manufacturer. You have to go
Speaker 4: to arbitration with a lot of these larger corporations. You know,
Speaker 4: they they've taken away our weapons of the court system.
Speaker 4: They don't have a jury access, we can't we can't
Speaker 4: go and invite somebody for for mouthfeasance in office because
Speaker 4: you have no access to get that kind of litigation
Speaker 4: into the court system.
Speaker 3: Indeed, there is a special vaccination Court which they are
Speaker 3: their results, their proceedings are not public knowledge. They are
Speaker 3: kept in secret, and you have to go through a
Speaker 3: very rigorous process to even begin to get your case
Speaker 3: before them. If you have an injured individual and injured child,
Speaker 3: especially from vaccines, you have to go to the secret
Speaker 3: court where they keep all of the preceding secret.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And that is a special secret secret like the Congressional
Speaker 4: Sexual Harassment Fund.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just like that. And that is the point Ted,
Speaker 3: Why is it? You know, outside of the fact that
Speaker 3: I said listen, you can hear Ted saying to you
Speaker 3: that he's going to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 4: You think the established body of what we have that's
Speaker 4: established to clean it.
Speaker 3: Up with and and maybe sharpen a couple of things
Speaker 3: as you're going through there too. Maybe make it so
Speaker 3: that everybody gets to be held accountable for their actions.
Speaker 3: Oh imagine that sort of world.
Speaker 4: Imagine equal application.
Speaker 3: Of the law.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, select selective enforcement. That that that's one of the
Speaker 3: biggest cancers on this country at this point. The idea that, look,
Speaker 3: if you can afford to pay for it, you can
Speaker 3: probably afford to get away with it.
Speaker 4: That Frank's America is a nation of laws really written
Speaker 4: and uh selectively enforced, And.
Speaker 3: Frank Zappa was a brilliant individual. Ted, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: put you on the level of Frank Zappa, but I
Speaker 3: appreciate your honesty. I don't know, man, maybe you're a
Speaker 3: musician up to that level. I haven't asked you about that,
Speaker 3: but but but I somehow doubt it because Frank was.
Speaker 4: Kind of let me send you a picture of my
Speaker 4: custom SG cool.
Speaker 3: Listen, I love Sgez. We'll have to talk about that
Speaker 3: off the air. But Ted Matts, if you're in the
Speaker 3: state of Georgia and you have voted in the past
Speaker 3: six years and therefore haven't been purged off the rolls
Speaker 3: and are able to do so, h, this is the
Speaker 3: only choice you actually have that is a choice.
Speaker 4: Ted Metz dot com with a Z T E D
Speaker 4: m E t z dot com. I'm on Facebook as
Speaker 4: Ted Mets and also Ted Mets for Governor fo or
Speaker 4: for Governor on Facebook, I got tons of stuff out there,
Speaker 4: tons of media, tons of audio, tons of video, and
Speaker 4: tons of policy and uh, you know, get to know me.
Speaker 4: I've got a twenty second clip on Facebook that I
Speaker 4: closed a little while ago that sums up why I
Speaker 4: should be the next governor. Twenty seconds give me twenty seconds.
Speaker 3: Also available on Twitter in case you don't have the
Speaker 3: patience or the wherewith all the screw with Facebook, because
Speaker 3: a lot of people are running from Facebook now. So
Speaker 3: I know I've got listeners who are on Twitter. I
Speaker 3: know I've got listeners from Georgia who are on Twitter.
Speaker 3: One lady, actually, before we get out of here, one
Speaker 3: lady said to me, oh, I hope he gets off
Speaker 3: the ballot. And I said why, uh, you know, And
Speaker 3: it was a whole thing because she somehow felt as
Speaker 3: though you were going to steer the election in a
Speaker 3: certain way. Uh. Quite honestly, I'd like to see you
Speaker 3: steer the election to you is what I'd like to see.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well, but that's because you're actually talking about
Speaker 3: representing people as opposed to simply dictating to people. And
Speaker 3: there is the difference, uh, and being sensible about things
Speaker 3: ranging from cannabis to corruption. Ted metz Or governor, and
Speaker 3: again Ted the website.
Speaker 4: Ted Mets dot com, Ted Metz.
Speaker 3: Dot com, M E. T. So it's not like the
Speaker 3: baseball team. You gotta put a C at the end.
Speaker 3: The Ocelly effect is done. Thank you to Ted Mess
Speaker 3: and the Stuttering John for coming out tonight. I know
Speaker 3: that's a NodD combination, but both of them made some
Speaker 3: interesting points. No matter who you are, where you are,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. I am Ilie O'shelly. You
Speaker 3: are all the effect. And if you're in Georgia, Ted
Speaker 3: Mets is your only choice for governor as far as
Speaker 3: I'm concerned. Have a good knight.