Speaker 1: Well, everybody, Yes, I know sometimes you know, the bus
Speaker 1: just you know, doesn't want to move when it's supposed
Speaker 1: to move. But we got it moving. So welcome everybody.
Speaker 1: Let me turn myself off over there, because then we
Speaker 1: truly are meeting ourselves coming and going. So welcome everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in and turning on and being
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. It's always better, you know, than one,
Speaker 1: because that's that's really a drag. So we always, like
Speaker 1: a dogbies say it's a party, and it is. It's
Speaker 1: a party of coming together, celebrating. Before I introduce Writer,
Speaker 1: I just want to say favor be to us all
Speaker 1: in favor manifested to us all, and we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about this. Nothing missing, nothing broken. Welcome everybody in the
Speaker 1: chat room. Much love to you, and welcome to a
Speaker 1: new timeline. Have you felt it? It's real, folks, it
Speaker 1: happened again. You know there's something about this man. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about it because you
Speaker 1: and I we are living history, folks. What you and
Speaker 1: I and Writer you as well, because we were talking
Speaker 1: about this before we went live. We're living history. The
Speaker 1: events that we have gone through will not happen again.
Speaker 1: I dare say for a thousand or two thousand years.
Speaker 1: This is how significant of a time in history that
Speaker 1: we're living. And something connected to this guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, but it seems like when he
Speaker 1: steps into the picture, everything changes. And it's interesting because
Speaker 1: I know many others that have said sinceed it yesterday,
Speaker 1: as I told everyone with the ladies Trina and Jenny
Speaker 1: that there was this, it was a supernatural calm that
Speaker 1: was over me. It was so freaking surreal. And today
Speaker 1: we are where we are, and we'll talk more about
Speaker 1: it because folks, new timelines present new opportunities. So let
Speaker 1: me quit talking and let me bring in my guest
Speaker 1: and returning guests, good friend, brother and a Soul tribe member,
Speaker 1: no doubt, mister rider Lee, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2: I am amazing, I am happy, Wayne, and I think
Speaker 2: we should just take a second and soak in this moment,
Speaker 2: this very special moment that we have before us, unlike
Speaker 2: anything that has ever happened ever, I don't think, and
Speaker 2: it's so incredible, and like you were saying yesterday, I
Speaker 2: was really calm too. And it's so interesting though, Wayne,
Speaker 2: is they made it seem like that this was going
Speaker 2: to take a really long time. They made it seem
Speaker 2: like this was going to be like two to three weeks,
Speaker 2: maybe even a month, and they were wrong. And I
Speaker 2: think that that is a really big signifier of this
Speaker 2: shift that you're talking about. And I really believe that
Speaker 2: there's no other explanation for it other than it being
Speaker 2: some kind of shift, whether that's a consciousness shift, whether
Speaker 2: that's some kind of timeline shift. But I think that
Speaker 2: this is the beginning of something really spectacular and something
Speaker 2: unlike that we've ever seen before. And I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited. I'm the happiest that I've
Speaker 2: been in a really long time. My documentary just came
Speaker 2: out a day before the elect congratulations, and Trump is
Speaker 2: the presidential elect, So I mean, I couldn't ask for
Speaker 2: a better outcome with all this, Like you shouldn't worry
Speaker 2: about all this stuff, like, and I had been worried
Speaker 2: about it for a while. I thought that things were
Speaker 2: I mean, we still have a couple more months before
Speaker 2: he actually takes office, so there's this period in there
Speaker 2: that a lot of things can happen. But I'm choosing
Speaker 2: not to focus on that, because I really think that
Speaker 2: we should just take this moment in and just relax
Speaker 2: and take off our conspiracy hats with all this stuff
Speaker 2: and just take them just breathe in the fresh air.
Speaker 2: We don't get wins like I've never experienced a win
Speaker 2: this in my lifetime. I don't know about about your lifetime.
Speaker 2: Did you experience something like this in your lifetime?
Speaker 1: Well, I would say that the closest thing that I experienced,
Speaker 1: because I was a part of with the Republican Party
Speaker 1: back then, was Reagan and the years with Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: were pretty tough. A lot of people don't remember that
Speaker 1: interest rates were at twenty one twenty two percent. You
Speaker 1: couldn't buy a home, you couldn't get a loan because
Speaker 1: the interests, and so you had these kakumene get a
Speaker 1: rounds where you had balloon notes, you know, you would
Speaker 1: only pay the interest. But with Jimmy Carter, it was
Speaker 1: it was, It was bad, but it wasn't like this.
Speaker 1: This one and this is just me. This one had
Speaker 1: a spiritual component to it still does. And when I
Speaker 1: say spiritual, there were forces greater than the forces of
Speaker 1: me at play, and we witness history the attempted first
Speaker 1: assassination on Trump. We witnessed a miracle. Now this is
Speaker 1: not religious, This is not elevating one religion or another.
Speaker 1: We as a species witnessed a miracle. And that's all
Speaker 1: you can say it. And may, if I may say,
Speaker 1: that's probably when the real timeline jump happened. Because if
Speaker 1: you think that micro second, just a little bit of
Speaker 1: turning the head, we'd be talking something completely different today.
Speaker 2: It would be a completely different reality. And I gotta
Speaker 2: say that would have been a great plan for them
Speaker 2: to have that happen and take him out like that
Speaker 2: and publicly like that. That would have been a great plan.
Speaker 2: But he he diverted it, and he diverted it twice.
Speaker 1: What I here inside the inner circle, they know of
Speaker 1: two other attempts that were foiled. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: after this guy, whoever they are, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I am a I really like Joe Rogan. But
Speaker 1: there was something that Mark Zuckerberg said, because I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of Zuckerberg, but when he said, I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like this that this guy is almost his
Speaker 1: brains are splattered everywhere. And what does he do? He
Speaker 1: does the exact opposite. He stands up and the first
Speaker 1: words out of his mouth, and we probably have heard
Speaker 1: the story, Trumps tells it better. He said, he knew exactly,
Speaker 1: and this is what gets me the hair in the
Speaker 1: back of my neck rising. He said, I knew I
Speaker 1: was about to write history. Now. That's what I admire
Speaker 1: about the Samaran Empire. They understood their place in history.
Speaker 1: We don't. But what what we have lived through in
Speaker 1: this time will be written about for the next two three,
Speaker 1: four thousand years if we survive.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, and.
Speaker 1: And then we all know what he said, fight fight, fight,
Speaker 1: and wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an iconic moment. And it was at
Speaker 2: that point too that I had this feeling that there
Speaker 2: is no way that he could lose. There's no way
Speaker 2: that they could they could steal this without bringing the
Speaker 2: entire country to its knees.
Speaker 1: Bonnie, I have to disagree with you, sister. He the
Speaker 1: man was shot, you know, but everyone has their own
Speaker 1: point of view.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he was definitely shot. There's no way that you
Speaker 2: can fake a bullet grazing the ear. You can't stage
Speaker 2: a bullet grazing the ear.
Speaker 1: Most people don't understand what.
Speaker 2: Hit hits someone's ear. You either hit the target or
Speaker 2: you don't hit at the target. It's impossible to hit
Speaker 2: someone's ear, like you just can't do it. You can't
Speaker 2: what's it called intentionally, You can't intentionally hit someone's ear.
Speaker 2: It's impossible.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. There was another I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: a podcast or another program, but and I loved what
Speaker 1: the guy's take was. He says, you know, he says,
Speaker 1: we think about beings that can manipulate time, and he said,
Speaker 1: this would be a case where you would have a
Speaker 1: higher intelligence, a technology that's looking at this thing in
Speaker 1: this big, grandiose layout. But he said, imagine moving time
Speaker 1: where you slow tying down to such a point that
Speaker 1: all it takes is an unseen spirit to move that
Speaker 1: head just enough and allowing the laws of physics to
Speaker 1: take place as well, so you're not violating a law.
Speaker 1: Trump was an innocent victim in this case. He's going
Speaker 1: to fulfill destiny. No matter what your opinion is. The
Speaker 1: man I've met, the man a nice guy, he really is,
Speaker 1: you know. But anyway, he concluded that he said, he said,
Speaker 1: if you believe in extraterrestrials, he said, there is a
Speaker 1: good opportunity, right there when they actually intervened in the
Speaker 1: affairs of man, not angels, not God, not any of this,
Speaker 1: but other higher specie beings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're living in a really incredible time right now.
Speaker 2: And I told you this privately, and I told you
Speaker 2: before the show too, and every time I talk about it,
Speaker 2: I kind of tear up some in the train.
Speaker 1: And Nina, you're wrong on that there is a scar.
Speaker 1: You know, this is what I don't understand about. In
Speaker 1: one aspect, there is such this this psychological thing with
Speaker 1: people where Trump is concerned, and so it's so tribe.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna talk to you straight. You know, you
Speaker 1: can believe what you want. The man has a scar
Speaker 1: on his ear, and you know, I don't understand that
Speaker 1: that that that is conspiracy. There was nothing of that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if you know anything about the body, the ear.
Speaker 2: The ear has those of the fast.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and and you know, yeah, anyway, anyway, yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Ear heels the fastest. And if you don't think that
Speaker 2: Trump has like some of the best surgeons and people
Speaker 2: that can fix them up really quickly. I mean he
Speaker 2: showed it the Joe Rogan on Joe Rogan's.
Speaker 1: Watch, The Joe Rogan show. See right there.
Speaker 2: He said, do you have a scar on your ear?
Speaker 2: And Trump was like yeah, and he pulled out his
Speaker 2: ear and he was like, there's the scar. And Rogan said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a little tiny scar. And they talked about how
Speaker 2: quick the ear heels.
Speaker 1: So do y'all understand, Nina, what a two to two
Speaker 1: three is? Do you understand the ballistics and the how
Speaker 1: a two two three operates, what happens when it's fired.
Speaker 1: It's not a seven five six, it's not a three
Speaker 1: to eight, a two two three, So step up from
Speaker 1: the twenty two and if you understand the dynamics of
Speaker 1: how that could happen, you wouldn't have that thought. You say,
Speaker 1: whether there was no blood on his ear when he
Speaker 1: stood up, Folks, the damn bullet was going four thousand
Speaker 1: feet per second. It has a carterization effect when it
Speaker 1: hits something as the ear, so all it takes is
Speaker 1: something for a moment, and those blood vessels and they're
Speaker 1: going to start exploding and then you're going to see
Speaker 1: the blood anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, and I've seen that with the with
Speaker 2: the community too. I was like, what are they talking about? Like,
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that that they were seeing that this
Speaker 2: thing was fake and stage, and I was like, what
Speaker 2: are they even I don't I don't understand what these
Speaker 2: people want. I don't understand what they're trying to achieve.
Speaker 2: I mean, this man has done, he's been attacked, he's
Speaker 2: been sued, he's been threatened to be put in prison.
Speaker 2: What should That's another thing that could you know, possibly
Speaker 2: have some ramifications later on in the month, because he's
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be sentenced I think on November twenty
Speaker 2: seventh or some time at the year.
Speaker 1: Well breaking out MSNBC on the Morning Joe, So I
Speaker 1: know something's up because they said, wonder if Biden will
Speaker 1: pardon Trump? I mean, everything else is turned upside down
Speaker 1: in this whole scenario. I mean, why not. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a real possibility.
Speaker 2: It is a real possibility. I mean, we got Justin
Speaker 2: Trudeau up in Canada now saying that he's looking forward
Speaker 2: to speaking with Trump and working with the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: which I never thought was. I never thought that I
Speaker 2: would ever see that. So, I mean this kind of
Speaker 2: everything and everything that I thought was going to happen
Speaker 2: didn't happen. So it's like you know, the only explanation
Speaker 2: for that is like some kind of weird type of shift.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think that it was going to
Speaker 2: take one day. I didn't think we were going to
Speaker 2: know the results so soon it happened. I didn't think
Speaker 2: that he was going to take all these swing states,
Speaker 2: which is going to probably turn out that he's going
Speaker 2: to take a majority of the swing states. But once
Speaker 2: he grabbed Pennsylvania, I knew that it was over. Whoever
Speaker 2: has Pennsylvania pretty much wins the election, and there's really
Speaker 2: nothing that they can do because the republic kings are
Speaker 2: going to hold the House, the Senate, and they have
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court backed with Republican Supreme Court nominees, so
Speaker 2: it's like there's really nothing that they're going to be
Speaker 2: able to do politically. So their only course of action,
Speaker 2: which I thought was really interesting because I've never seen
Speaker 2: a presidential election in my lifetime since I've been alive
Speaker 2: where the other candidate doesn't speak on the night of
Speaker 2: the election, and Kamala did not speak. She left. She
Speaker 2: left it like ten pm my time, which was well, no,
Speaker 2: it was actually earlier than I was, like nine pm.
Speaker 2: So it had been like many.
Speaker 1: Apparently she had according to people that have said this
Speaker 1: to the press, she apparently had a meltdown. They said
Speaker 1: equivalent to almost a nervous breakdown, and that she was
Speaker 1: in no mental capacity. And you know, so what happens.
Speaker 1: Just to remind everybody how this process, because there have
Speaker 1: been those who said, well, maybe a week or so
Speaker 1: they start changing election effects. Now, once Kamala Harris can
Speaker 1: seeds the race, it doesn't matter. She has conceded and
Speaker 1: at that point, legally all you know, she's out and
Speaker 1: the results stand.
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, like, I don't know, she should
Speaker 2: have conceded last night. She should should have she should
Speaker 2: have conceded. She should have hung it up. Because even
Speaker 2: if she doesn't concede, I don't think that it's really
Speaker 2: going to matter that much of a difference because Trump
Speaker 2: has won by such a great margin that it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if she doesn't concede or not. They're not going
Speaker 2: to be able to do a recounter or or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's not going to be like Bush and
Speaker 2: what was the other guy, al Gore. It's not going
Speaker 2: to be like al Gore and Bush, where it goes
Speaker 2: on for a couple of months, and there's all this.
Speaker 1: And people don't remember. Yeah, it went right up to
Speaker 1: January twelve with Gore and bush yep and the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court made that decision some historians, but that one.
Speaker 2: Was really close though this one is not even close.
Speaker 1: No, no Eve.
Speaker 2: Ran away with it. So even if she doesn't concede
Speaker 2: and they do some kind of they're not going to
Speaker 2: be able to recount it because there's not going to
Speaker 2: be a reason to recount it because he's won by
Speaker 2: such a large margin. So she needs to concede. She
Speaker 2: needed to concede last night, but she was she always
Speaker 2: to come out and speak this morning. I don't think
Speaker 2: that she's come out and speak, spoke to you.
Speaker 1: Has not. I think what I'm reading now is that
Speaker 1: she's going to address the nation at six pm I
Speaker 1: think Eastern times, so tonight.
Speaker 2: She's waiting all the way until tonight.
Speaker 1: So it's not over. I mean, indeed, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's interesting and you know, and there's so much
Speaker 1: at play here because this is our lives. I mean,
Speaker 1: people don't understand policy, and this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the deregulations. You know that you can
Speaker 1: actually keep your natural gas stove. You can actually have
Speaker 1: an air conditioner, because under the current administration, with their
Speaker 1: Green Deal in five years, it was going to be
Speaker 1: almost next to impossible for Americans to a number one
Speaker 1: and Ford air conditioning if you had to get a
Speaker 1: unit and two being able to get the EP or
Speaker 1: what they call the products that they're there, they're allowing
Speaker 1: to actually allow yourself to have refrigerant air.
Speaker 2: So listen, there was something that Kamala wanted to do
Speaker 2: where I forget what it was called, but I read
Speaker 2: about it the other day where she wanted to tax
Speaker 2: people that have that just hold stocks.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It was the unrealized capital gains.
Speaker 2: That's it, unrealized capital gains. That is unbelievable, That is
Speaker 2: unreal I couldn't believe that that would even be apollotic,
Speaker 2: Like what are these people are? They like rookies and
Speaker 2: like amateurs. I don't understand like that having stocks and
Speaker 2: investing in companies is what keeps the economy going and
Speaker 2: leaving it in there is what keeps the economy going
Speaker 2: because you have your money in side of the stock
Speaker 2: and if you're being taxed on that the only taxable
Speaker 2: event that should ever happen is whenever you cash out
Speaker 2: your stocks and you get money for that. But that's
Speaker 2: how a lot of people hold their wealth. They hold
Speaker 2: their wealth inside of stock.
Speaker 1: We do it the same way. I mean, my portfolio
Speaker 1: is up very nicely, and overnight it really got a
Speaker 1: hit up nicely. And for my wife and I were
Speaker 1: it was a serious concern because who the hell makes
Speaker 1: the determination on a specific day if you don't know
Speaker 1: what the day is, but that day is where they're
Speaker 1: going to determine the unrecognized capital gains that you currently hold.
Speaker 1: And there was no provision as to well what happened
Speaker 1: if you took a capital gain's loss. And people don't
Speaker 1: understand that it's a big, big, big deal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's what that one blew my mind.
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? And for people
Speaker 2: that don't understand how the stock market works, are never
Speaker 2: invested in that, they probably wouldn't think that that's a
Speaker 2: big deal. But that's a really big deal, like.
Speaker 1: A huge big deal.
Speaker 2: That means that everything that you have involved in any
Speaker 2: kind of stock market or any company that you're invested in,
Speaker 2: it is going to be taxed regardless if you have
Speaker 2: access to that money or not.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very active in the angel investment in investment industry,
Speaker 1: and you know, you're looking at startups, looking at new ideas,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But with the venture capital markets, if that
Speaker 1: had happened, it would have shut down all new innovation
Speaker 1: startups would not be able to get funding. Companies that
Speaker 1: are needing mezzanine financing would not be able to find
Speaker 1: it because this venture capital and it's you know, people
Speaker 1: don't know how it works, but they were going to
Speaker 1: shut down the funds. I mean, investors are going, what
Speaker 1: the hell? I mean, you know, if I have twenty losers,
Speaker 1: but I have one hit, well that hit could be
Speaker 1: as much as you know, ten thousand X. You don't
Speaker 1: realize the funds at that moment, but you're going to
Speaker 1: be text on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was an unreal Spare me a dime, brother,
Speaker 3: just to say, you know, I like this because this
Speaker 3: is you know, it's a little off the path that
Speaker 3: we typically hear, but these are things that and I see.
Speaker 1: A correlation here. We're expanded knowledge and the opportunities of
Speaker 1: new innovation, new products, new theories, new ideas. You have
Speaker 1: to have this this environment and you and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this, and one of the things that Trump
Speaker 1: has said now, he said, it's I think in its
Speaker 1: acceptance speech. Right. He stayed up and I did not.
Speaker 2: I stayed up and watched it until the last ten minutes,
Speaker 2: and I thought that it was going to go on
Speaker 2: for a really long time because they decided not to.
Speaker 2: Trump said that he didn't want any teleprompters, so he
Speaker 2: wasn't reading off of any teleprompters out there. He just
Speaker 2: went out there and free balled it. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is probably gonna last for like a couple of hours,
Speaker 2: like the RNC speech that he did. Like, I went
Speaker 2: and took a shower. I watched for an hour that
Speaker 2: the RNC, and then I went took a shower, and
Speaker 2: then came back. He was still talking, and I went
Speaker 2: and used the bathroom, made dinner, cooked dinner, ate dinner,
Speaker 2: and he was still talking. So I thought that it
Speaker 2: was going to go on for a really long time.
Speaker 2: So I went and did some other things around the house,
Speaker 2: and then I came back and then I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it's over already. He was only up there for.
Speaker 1: Maybe twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 2: I heard yeah, not very long. Yeah, and yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a it was a really and you brought up
Speaker 2: a few other people.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be exciting to see the
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley crowd get involved, and that Robert Kennedy Junior,
Speaker 1: he's going to be in the cabinet as well.
Speaker 2: He had just I think that was a really big
Speaker 2: curve ball for them because RFKA Junior, he had a
Speaker 2: lot of support, a lot of support, and that was
Speaker 2: a really big curve ball that was thrown in their
Speaker 2: direction because RFK had said because I followed his campaign
Speaker 2: since the.
Speaker 1: He's still a Democrat, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I followed it since the beginning, since he announced
Speaker 2: that he was going to be running for president, and
Speaker 2: then Biden administration completely shut him out of the Democratic
Speaker 2: Party and made him go independent. And I still followed
Speaker 2: him because I liked everything that he's been talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the health crisis that we have, the obesity crisis,
Speaker 2: the addiction crisis, in the things that he wants to
Speaker 2: clean up, and he's done a lot of fantastic environmental work.
Speaker 2: He cleaned up a lot of rivers in the United
Speaker 2: States and sued months.
Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical companies or they.
Speaker 2: Are and so I followed him a lot, and he
Speaker 2: he had said several times that he would never team
Speaker 2: up with Trump, and I was like, okay, well that
Speaker 2: just kind of squashes that whole thing there, because I
Speaker 2: was hoping that he Trump was actually going to pick
Speaker 2: him for VP. But at that time, Kennedy was still
Speaker 2: on his you know, campaign to be running for president
Speaker 2: as an independent. And then the tides turned and then
Speaker 2: he joined in with Trump, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: this is a freaking curveball that they were not expecting.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they expected that because RFK had
Speaker 2: said several times that, you know, his wife would would
Speaker 2: he was joking, of course, he said his wife would
Speaker 2: kill him if he if he joined the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, well, if he's saying that,
Speaker 2: then it's probably not a possibility. But it happened, and
Speaker 2: I really don't miracle.
Speaker 1: It's a miracle. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: You had so much support from not only the left,
Speaker 2: but the independent voters, the undecided voters. They they were
Speaker 2: you know, they wanted something different, and then you joined
Speaker 2: up with Trump. And it's I think that that move
Speaker 2: right there, in the combination of him, you know, being
Speaker 2: shot at in an attempted assassination just threw him over
Speaker 2: the edge.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm an independent, and you know I've known Democrats,
Speaker 1: you know, Congress and Senators and Republicans. But the interesting
Speaker 1: thing that I think where Kamala was concerned, this desperation
Speaker 1: and that which began to tell me something was really
Speaker 1: up here when they went so far to the extreme
Speaker 1: in the vitriol, name calling, you know, character assassination, going
Speaker 1: to the extreme of you know, invoking you know, Nazis
Speaker 1: and Hitler and you know, as I'm on the record
Speaker 1: of saying, if you're if you're before an investor conference,
Speaker 1: you might as well just give up. If you're going
Speaker 1: to go out on stage and present yourself and all
Speaker 1: you're going to do is tear your competitors down and
Speaker 1: never mention what your product really is, You're not getting
Speaker 1: that's fun.
Speaker 2: That's all Kamala did the entire PA That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all she did. Yeah, And it was just and
Speaker 1: it was a bonehead move. I mean, and I think
Speaker 1: her not getting on Joe Rogan was a bonehead move again.
Speaker 2: I mean, she wouldn't have been able to handle that,
Speaker 2: She wouldn't have been able to handle a three hour restrution. No,
Speaker 2: with Joe Rogan, she would literally melt to the ground.
Speaker 2: I mean she can barely say anything without reading off
Speaker 2: of a tele prompter or reading what she's supposed to say.
Speaker 2: And that's like the whole wild thing. That's that's what
Speaker 2: happened at that the most recent rally that she had,
Speaker 2: where like Cardi b was up there and yeah, Artib's
Speaker 2: teleprompter screwed up and she just stood there for a minute.
Speaker 2: She didn't see anything because she couldn't see anything because
Speaker 2: she couldn't read it.
Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that kind of go into like the whole
Speaker 1: When I saw that moment, I thought of your movie MK,
Speaker 1: you know MK Ultra. I mean, that is what the
Speaker 1: movie is about. And I think we saw so much
Speaker 1: on display in this election cycle that why don't we
Speaker 1: And it's a nice way segue, by the way, everyone
Speaker 1: in the chat room, I still love you. You can have
Speaker 1: a different idea, It's all right.
Speaker 2: Just because we have different ideas and different thoughts we're
Speaker 2: talking about different things doesn't mean that we don't like
Speaker 2: you or that we hate you.
Speaker 1: That's just simulate good conversation.
Speaker 2: We need to have discourse again, like we need to
Speaker 2: have a good debate again, we need to have we
Speaker 2: do And that's what's been lacking from this and in
Speaker 2: this whole age of social media has turned healthy debate
Speaker 2: and disagreements into like attacks and yeah, character assassinations.
Speaker 1: And they still teach debate in schools. In high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was on the debate club. I loved
Speaker 1: this too.
Speaker 2: I did debate. I took debate, and I loved it
Speaker 2: because it's it's supposed to be expanding. It's not supposed
Speaker 2: to just get up there and like attack your opponent.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to bring up points, counter counter arguments to
Speaker 2: what your opponent is saying.
Speaker 1: And I can say what I learned in school from debate,
Speaker 1: in the principles of debate played a major role later
Speaker 1: in life, particularly you know, you know, I was hired
Speaker 1: as you know, I turned around companies and launched startups.
Speaker 1: You have to have that ability when you have someone
Speaker 1: criticizing you on a judging panel. You can't take that personally.
Speaker 1: You have to be adapt enough mentally that you can
Speaker 1: come back and immediately begin to counterpoint the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was the thing is like Kamala didn't
Speaker 2: have any counterpoint, Like all it was was attacking him
Speaker 2: and saying how bad his policies were, while not saying
Speaker 2: anything about her policies until the very last couple of
Speaker 2: minutes when the debate was completely over, which had no
Speaker 2: relevance at that point. It wasn't even the question that
Speaker 2: was asked. And then she goes on about how it's
Speaker 2: going to be, you know that she's going to give
Speaker 2: some kind of tax break to new families and new
Speaker 2: businesses and give them like a startup income. That's the
Speaker 2: only thing that she said. The entire debate and the
Speaker 2: rest of it was just tearing down how bad Trump's
Speaker 2: policies were.
Speaker 1: With all, I still don't know what her economic policy was,
Speaker 1: I don't know what our national foreign policy was, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what her domestic policy. And that's what I
Speaker 1: was looking for, was something of subsistent me to saying,
Speaker 1: all right, I know what Trump's going to do, and
Speaker 1: he's and here's the thing, a reckoning is coming. You know,
Speaker 1: he got His first administration was full of saboteurs. They
Speaker 1: were those that were purposely in there to ensure that
Speaker 1: whatever his agenda was was not going to be able
Speaker 1: to move forward. I mean, two impeachments, all of this,
Speaker 1: I believe this one's going to be a lot lot different.
Speaker 1: And he said that in Joe Rogan's interview, he said,
Speaker 1: I learned my lessons from the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And getting back to Kamala, I wish her well
Speaker 1: in life, wherever that may be. But I think it's
Speaker 1: like Obama's told Joe Biden that you know, you couldn't
Speaker 1: see it because the mic was you know, they were
Speaker 1: up on stage and some person who can read lips
Speaker 1: she said exactly what the discussion was. And Obama told
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, he said, she doesn't have it what it takes.
Speaker 1: And here's my problem with with Kamala Harris. She never
Speaker 1: earned it. It was a coup and it'll go down
Speaker 1: in his as she was the one, whether she did
Speaker 1: it herself or she's just merely the puppet and Americans.
Speaker 1: I think that's what what I'm reading now with many
Speaker 1: Democrats that they felt that she basically nullified their vote,
Speaker 1: disenfranchised them, and so she never paid a price for
Speaker 1: the nomination. It was just she just took it. And
Speaker 1: whereas with Trump, he had to work his ass off
Speaker 1: in being able to get into the message.
Speaker 2: And you know, now, that's another thing is that the
Speaker 2: Democrats screwed up on is that they didn't have a bench.
Speaker 2: They didn't have a bench of people to know that
Speaker 2: could come up. They have him propped anybody up there.
Speaker 2: There's literally nobody else on the Democrats side. They couldn't
Speaker 2: even find anybody but an old man with dementia to
Speaker 2: run against Trump in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: And she never had one person, one senator, one congress person.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was on her, you know,
Speaker 1: stumping for.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that's the first time. There's been
Speaker 2: a lot of first with this this election and the
Speaker 2: process that's led up to this election, but I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure it's the first time in American history that someone
Speaker 2: has gotten the nomination, the Democratic nomination, without a.
Speaker 1: Vote, with one single vote. And I hope Trump is right.
Speaker 1: I hope that he is prophetic in his proclamation that
Speaker 1: he is ushering in a golden age.
Speaker 2: He said done last night and at the speech that
Speaker 2: he when he came out and accepted the win, he
Speaker 2: said that we're going to be that this is going
Speaker 2: to be a golden age that he's going to bring
Speaker 2: about a golden age for the United States.
Speaker 1: I think for the rest of the world. It's quite remarkable.
Speaker 1: The world leaders that they didn't waste no time. I mean,
Speaker 1: as soon as it hit the wires and it had
Speaker 1: been called, you know by all the other news agencies
Speaker 1: and everyone with the official votes coming in that you know,
Speaker 1: the list of phone calls, it was like, oh, thank God,
Speaker 1: whatever God that may be. I mean, Neat and Yahoo said,
Speaker 1: you know, quite remarkable. He said, it's a miracle. He said,
Speaker 1: it's the comeback of all the ages.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. And I was saying,
Speaker 2: if we could.
Speaker 1: Step back from the precipice of World War three, if
Speaker 1: we can end the Ukraine nonsense and stop the slaughter
Speaker 1: of human beings in a needless conflict and back this
Speaker 1: down in the Middle East, yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 2: I think that we have averted. If things don't turn
Speaker 2: out the way that some people think that it's going
Speaker 2: to turn out with these next couple of months, and
Speaker 2: something major doesn't happen, and everything runs smooth, and he
Speaker 2: gets in the offices and the inauguration goes through really smooth,
Speaker 2: I believe that we have averted civil war. We've averted
Speaker 2: War War three. I think we've averted all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's all going to be gone. And I don't understand
Speaker 2: why people wouldn't want that. Why do they not want that?
Speaker 2: It's like they want war. Starting to seem like they
Speaker 2: want a civil war in a World War three.
Speaker 1: It's like you haven't been able to eat in a
Speaker 1: week and someone's offering you this beautiful buffet. You're gonna go. Nah,
Speaker 1: I see that you've got cranberries. I don't like cranberries.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd rather have war. You know, It's like, geez,
Speaker 1: come on, folks.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, you don't want that.
Speaker 2: You don't want war. You don't want a civil war.
Speaker 2: And it might look fun in the movies. It might
Speaker 2: look fun in those disaster movies, you know, all the
Speaker 2: everything being in chaos, and a lot of the apocalyptic
Speaker 2: zombie type movies. It might look fun, but that's a
Speaker 2: Hollywood version of it. You don't want it. It's going
Speaker 2: to be bad. And I think that we should be
Speaker 2: doing everything that we possibly can to avert war and
Speaker 2: avert an uprising, and avert any kind of civil unrest,
Speaker 2: and avert any kind of civil war. And I think
Speaker 2: that that will happen if everything runs smooth in these
Speaker 2: next couple of months up into the inauguration on January sixth.
Speaker 2: And if that goes smooth, everything's good. They don't try
Speaker 2: and take him out again, something doesn't happen, he doesn't
Speaker 2: get put in prison. Then we are we're sitting really pretty,
Speaker 2: sitting real pretty.
Speaker 1: It's time for healing. I mean, the America needs to
Speaker 1: be healed, I dare say the world. But this thing
Speaker 1: tried to tear us apart. You know, husband against wife,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, parents against children, friends against friends.
Speaker 1: I mean it was getting to the point where, if
Speaker 1: it continued in that direction, the ultimate end of that
Speaker 1: would have been a self inflicted civil war. Well, August,
Speaker 1: all civil wars are inflicted by self. But anyway this
Speaker 1: one would have it would not need to have because
Speaker 1: there was there was no platform, There was no point
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, slavery was for the first one.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this woel had been because you know,
Speaker 1: I hate my neighbor because you know, they happened to
Speaker 1: like Harris, and you know I happen to like Trump,
Speaker 1: and so let's just you know, blow each other's homes up. Now, No, no,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: If it were to happened, it would have been an
Speaker 2: uprising against the government, That's what it would have been about.
Speaker 2: And it would have turned into some kind of civil
Speaker 2: conflict with neighbor against neighbor. But the catalyst for getting
Speaker 2: to that point would have been in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: And people.
Speaker 1: I went into the store this morning, and I can
Speaker 1: tell you there was we were talking about different timelines.
Speaker 1: There was a calmness, I mean, and in many of
Speaker 1: the people I saw a tiredness. You know. It was
Speaker 1: like as I knew the cashier and talking to her,
Speaker 1: and of course they can't speak politics against store policy,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can communicate without having to say
Speaker 1: the word. And I said, you know, I said, it's
Speaker 1: a remarkable feeling of calmness. And she said yes, she said,
Speaker 1: and doesn't it make you somewhat just tired? I said, well,
Speaker 1: I think we're all going to sleep well tonight. Now
Speaker 1: I know that there's another half that are in our
Speaker 1: way in that they're they're devastated, they have been, you know, disappointed,
Speaker 1: and we get that and it's going to be all right.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, it's going to be
Speaker 1: okay and just allow yourself to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of leeway in your strong held beliefs and thoughts. Ideology
Speaker 1: is fine, but if taken to the extreme, it becomes
Speaker 1: a hindrance of being able to accept other people's thoughts
Speaker 1: or ideas. You know, let's us, let's us take a
Speaker 1: break America. Let's allow the process to have its way.
Speaker 1: And both Democrat and Republicans said last night Obama and
Speaker 1: Bush both made the point we saw American democracy and
Speaker 1: action and it worked, and that's the most beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: We are one of the few countries in the world
Speaker 1: that where we have this process every four to eight years,
Speaker 1: where there is a change in government, and we can
Speaker 1: do it peacefully, we do it in a civilized manner
Speaker 1: and order. And the next part of this process is
Speaker 1: what December twelfth, I think that's when the Electoral College
Speaker 1: comes together, certifies the vote, and then that then is
Speaker 1: then taken to the Vice President head of the Senate,
Speaker 1: in which then he will then bring it forth as
Speaker 1: its final certification. So those are the next steps that happen.
Speaker 1: And I believe if Kamala drops out and concedes the race.
Speaker 2: So wild is Kamala is the vice president.
Speaker 1: I know. Doesn't escape me on that one.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that might be a little rough there.
Speaker 2: That might be a little rough.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have written the script better, though, could you?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god?
Speaker 1: Well, I hope she has the the integrity and the tenacity.
Speaker 1: Is Mike Pinstead and you know, not doing Shenanigans. But anyway, Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: interesting isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Little dicey uh, little dicey situation there. But I think
Speaker 2: it all comes down to if she concedes today or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and she has to she has.
Speaker 2: To concede today. I mean there don't think there's anything.
Speaker 1: She has to win three of the five and I
Speaker 1: just don't see that happening, you know, I just don't. So, writer,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your movie, my friend. This is it's exciting.
Speaker 1: It's the second one. The first was JFK. And I
Speaker 1: was telling you that I've seen a lot of spinoffs
Speaker 1: from that. I'm seeing other independent film you know, directors
Speaker 1: and with different takes. And it seems like you opened
Speaker 1: a door with that one, and then you followed it
Speaker 1: up with your latest release, A Clockwork Shining, available in
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. I have left the links below. Considered that
Speaker 1: go and check it out. It is on my viewing
Speaker 1: this weekend, so I will be watching it. But talk
Speaker 1: to us about it, tell us how it came about,
Speaker 1: what is it about. And again I just want to
Speaker 1: say congrats, way to go, buddy, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of it. I think that it's a
Speaker 2: work of art, not only from an editing standpoint, but
Speaker 2: a filmmaking standpoint. And how it came about was around
Speaker 2: two years ago. I brought Jay Widner on my show
Speaker 2: and he had he had done two movies before this
Speaker 2: one which was a Kubrick's Odyssey one and a Kubri's
Speaker 2: Odyssey two. I mean, he's been a filmmaker for a
Speaker 2: really long time. He's produced a lot of other movies.
Speaker 2: He worked at Gaya and did a lot of production
Speaker 2: for them, and he's done a lot of production for
Speaker 2: a bunch of movies before. But he had two movies
Speaker 2: that would basically were analysis on Stanley Kubrick's work, which
Speaker 2: was Kubric's Odyssey one and two. And I watched those
Speaker 2: movies in order to bring him on my show to
Speaker 2: you know, talk about the you know what I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about, so I can ask really deep interesting
Speaker 2: questions into it. And uh, I'd watched Shining a couple
Speaker 2: of times before that, and I gotta be honest, I
Speaker 2: did not like the Shining. I thought that it was
Speaker 2: a boring film. The first time that I seen it,
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on here? Why is
Speaker 2: this like? So I didn't really understand it. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't until I watched it several times after that that
Speaker 2: it really clicked with me in what was going on?
Speaker 2: And I automatically had a new theory. And that's what
Speaker 2: A Clockwork Shining is about. It is about. It is
Speaker 2: my theory. It is my analysis of the movie.
Speaker 1: So what it.
Speaker 2: All revolves around my analysis of it. And if anybody
Speaker 2: else tells you that they've seen it before, I did
Speaker 2: their line. I seen it. I didn't hear anybody else
Speaker 2: ever talk about the things that I talked about in
Speaker 2: the movie my analysis of it. I didn't hear. I
Speaker 2: didn't watch somebody else someone else's analysis of it and
Speaker 2: then copy their analysis of it. Though we do have
Speaker 2: things that have been discussed before within A Clockwork Shining,
Speaker 2: but that's just a a setup for what we're going
Speaker 2: to be talking about, and we let people know where
Speaker 2: a lot of those things that other people have found
Speaker 2: throughout the movie came from. Now when I was watching it,
Speaker 2: it it's really interesting when because in the first ten
Speaker 2: minutes of The Shining gives away the entire plot of
Speaker 2: the movie. It's one of the only movies that I've
Speaker 2: listened to that within the dialogue of the movie give
Speaker 2: away really what you're getting ready to see throughout the
Speaker 2: rest of the movie. But it's given away in a
Speaker 2: cryptic type of scenario between Almond and Jack, and Almond
Speaker 2: looks a lot like JFK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: He knows looks identical to JFK. And I think Kubrick
Speaker 2: was doing that on purpose. But there's so many things
Speaker 2: within The Shining that are presumed to be continuity errors,
Speaker 2: you know, like and we've shown them all in the movie.
Speaker 2: One of the first ones is sticker that's on Danny's door.
Speaker 2: In one scene it's there, and then in the next
Speaker 2: scene it's gone. There's a chair that's behind Jack when
Speaker 2: Wendy comes in to speak with Jack in the main
Speaker 2: entrance to the hotel where he's typing his is supposedly
Speaker 2: his book, but we all know that he's not really
Speaker 2: typing a book. There's a chair behind him, and then
Speaker 2: it cuts to Wendy, and then it cuts back to
Speaker 2: Jack and the chair is gone. There's light switches and
Speaker 2: plugins in the movie that are there at one shot
Speaker 2: and then later on in the movie they're not there.
Speaker 2: Like when Jack walks into Almon's office, there's a like
Speaker 2: plugins underneath one of the pictures, and then later on
Speaker 2: when he goes in to destroy the radio to keep
Speaker 2: Wendy and Danny from leaving the overlook, it's not there.
Speaker 2: There's another one where.
Speaker 1: Let's us stop on that, because that's interesting because set
Speaker 1: design is crucial in any set up of a scene
Speaker 1: that's going to be shot. There's a lot of thought
Speaker 1: into it. In fact, if you read the scripts, they're
Speaker 1: very detailed in what the set design is supposed to have.
Speaker 1: So a professional film director deliberately removing that that's interesting
Speaker 1: because it is suggests that it's either a number one,
Speaker 1: you know, and watching the trailer, I thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting that you see those things removed and the continuity.
Speaker 1: Obviously someone would have caught that well.
Speaker 2: Also, Stanley Kubrick is completely rewriting the entire script as
Speaker 2: the movie's being shown, which is completely unheard of, like
Speaker 2: no one ever does that. You just don't do that.
Speaker 2: And our analysis within the movie is Qubrick basically was
Speaker 2: given The Shining to pretty much make because his movie
Speaker 2: before that, that was Barry Linden and Barry Linden, did not
Speaker 2: go over well. It did not get make a lot
Speaker 2: of money, it was not critically a c it was
Speaker 2: pretty much a mess of a film. So Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: essentially came to Cubrick and was like, here, here's this
Speaker 2: book by Stephen King. We want you to make a
Speaker 2: movie about this. And they'd already had a major success
Speaker 2: with a horror novel being adapted into a movie with
Speaker 2: William Freakin's The Extorcist, and they were like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: let's get another big time film director to come in
Speaker 2: and film the best selling book of Stephen King's The Shining.
Speaker 2: So what we propose is that it's highly possible that
Speaker 2: Stephen King wrote up a treatment to give to Warner.
Speaker 1: Brothers of the movie Slay.
Speaker 2: A screenplay, you know, like a script in the dialogue
Speaker 2: and all that, and then for them to accept it
Speaker 2: that was more along the lines of Stephen King's novel,
Speaker 2: because there's Stephen King famously hated the movie The Shining
Speaker 2: by Stanley.
Speaker 1: That's for sure work.
Speaker 2: And I think that what we propose in the movie
Speaker 2: is that Qubic decided to completely change everything because he
Speaker 2: wanted to make his own movie. He wanted to make
Speaker 2: his own version of Stephen King's book The Shining in
Speaker 2: movie form, and he knew that he couldn't do that
Speaker 2: by handing in a script that was completely different than
Speaker 2: Stanley than Stephen King's movie. So and then that way
Speaker 2: he can also put things in the movie that are
Speaker 2: very symbolic. There's a lot of very symbolic things. And honestly,
Speaker 2: whenever I was watching it over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: I was like, there's absolutely no way that I'm going
Speaker 2: to find things in this movie that people have not
Speaker 2: seen before. Like it's been ran into the ground. Like
Speaker 2: there's so many theories and so many speculations, like Jay
Speaker 2: Wiener's theory of that it's about the faking of the
Speaker 2: moon landing. Stanley Kubrick faked the moon landing, which is
Speaker 2: a very plausible theory because during that time Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 2: was actually shooting two thousand and one a Space Odyssey,
Speaker 2: so it's very it's highly likely that he had these
Speaker 2: actors film an extra scene that was not in two
Speaker 2: thousand and one of Space Odyssey, and then that is
Speaker 2: the moon landing footage. But we don't really get too
Speaker 2: much into the faking of the moon landing in the movie,
Speaker 2: but we do bring it up and we do talk
Speaker 2: about it. But as I was watching it several times,
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, like, there's no way I'm going to
Speaker 2: find things in here that people haven't seen or any
Speaker 2: kind of new theory. And I was watching and I'm
Speaker 2: seeing these things that I had never heard anyone ever
Speaker 2: talk about before, and I'm like, holy crap, this is
Speaker 2: in one of those things. Is the first time that
Speaker 2: we meet Wendy and Danny in The Shining, Windy is
Speaker 2: reading a book which is called Ketcher and the Rye
Speaker 2: written by JD. Salinger, which was also on the scene
Speaker 2: of two major assassinations in the United States within a
Speaker 2: year of the release of The Shining, So it was
Speaker 2: in The Shining. Stanley Cupri had it in The Shining,
Speaker 2: and then less than a year later you had the
Speaker 2: Mark David Chapman murder. Then you had the John Hinckley
Speaker 2: assassination that, you know, the the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: They were both reading it, they both had it on
Speaker 2: their on their person, they had had it with them
Speaker 2: when the well, you know, attempting to kill Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: It didn't actually have him, but he fired shots. I
Speaker 2: think Ronald got hit in the back.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it died. I mean, it's amazing, love
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. You heard what he said of the doctors, right,
Speaker 1: what it is sayes any of you. Hope y'all voted Republican.
Speaker 2: Right, But there's that, And that's in the very beginning
Speaker 2: of the movie. And then with Omen basically telling Jack
Speaker 2: in the dialogue between Jack and Olman, He's like, listen,
Speaker 2: this isn't a very physically demanding job. This is a
Speaker 2: this is a psychological job. This is mentally taxing, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's him giving you know, Jack a queue that
Speaker 2: this is like an experiment. This isn't like a you know,
Speaker 2: a normal type of job. And then later on when
Speaker 2: Jack is sort of in like a psychosis and going
Speaker 2: after Windy, Jack is like, do you know not know
Speaker 2: the responsibilities that I have to my employers? And then
Speaker 2: also within that conversation between Olman and Jack, they talk
Speaker 2: about these people in Denver, like all the time they
Speaker 2: bring up to people in Denver, like four or five
Speaker 2: times in the conversation, like who are these people in
Speaker 2: Denver that they keep referencing, And so there was a
Speaker 2: lot of things like that. And then I I was
Speaker 2: the first person to see that there's a handprint on
Speaker 2: a bloody handprint on the lady's ass whenever she whenever
Speaker 2: Jack gets up from the bar, whenever he's talking to
Speaker 2: Grady and Grady gives him drinks, whenever before Jack runs
Speaker 2: in the Grady and Grady spills the alcohol on Jack.
Speaker 2: There's a lady that walks past right in front of
Speaker 2: them that has like a bloody handprint on her ass.
Speaker 2: And then there's a Nazi swastika in the background of
Speaker 2: the gold Room, which correlates to what other people have seen,
Speaker 2: which I did not come up with. I learned about
Speaker 2: it was that at the end of the movie, there's
Speaker 2: whenever the camera pans into the picture frames on the wall,
Speaker 2: when the shot fades from the far away shot to
Speaker 2: the close up shot of Jack's picture on the wall,
Speaker 2: just for a split second, you can see like a
Speaker 2: tiny Hitler mustache beginning to form on Jack's face, which
Speaker 2: it all wraps up nice and neat into this movie
Speaker 2: because we propose that it's really a mind control operation
Speaker 2: that's happening up at the overlook. I mean, it has everything,
Speaker 2: all the telltale signs of it being a CIA experiment,
Speaker 2: especially when you look at the Monarch poster on the
Speaker 2: wall when Danny sees the twins. That's one of the
Speaker 2: first things that Danny sees at the hotel. That's anything
Speaker 2: that's strange. He sees the twins in the games room.
Speaker 2: And I didn't see this to begin with. Again, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make distinction here. I wasn't the first person
Speaker 2: to see the Monarch poster. Other people had seen the
Speaker 2: Monarch poster before, but they never talked about what it
Speaker 2: actually means, what Monarch actually means. They try and relate
Speaker 2: it to a dynasty or that it's referring to Monarch
Speaker 2: Mountain in Colorado, which is a possibility. But Stanley Kubrick,
Speaker 2: he could have put anything on that wall, Like why
Speaker 2: did he put a poster that says Monarch at the
Speaker 2: bottom of it, you know, And why did he do
Speaker 2: all of these things. And another thing, there's a whole
Speaker 2: ending to The Shining that nobody even knew about that
Speaker 2: was cut from the movie that really explains the entire
Speaker 2: movie and shows that there's a there's a that it
Speaker 2: was basically a CIA operation. Oh really, Yeah, the Stanley
Speaker 2: Kubrick cut out the entire the original ending of the movie.
Speaker 1: So was were they being used then as an MK
Speaker 1: ultra experiment?
Speaker 2: Well, when you look at the book Catcher in the Rye,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have said that Catcher in the Rise,
Speaker 2: like this MK ultra assassination trigger that you know, triggers
Speaker 2: people to you know, kill people. And if you look
Speaker 2: at The Shining, Jack, what's Jack doing throughout the movie?
Speaker 2: He's trying to kill people. He's trying to kill his family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ended up killing himself. I think. So, so what
Speaker 1: do you think Kubrick's was, you know, because I always
Speaker 1: think of, you know, like Apocalypse Now, you know, another
Speaker 1: one of these movies that that movie is one that
Speaker 1: still kind of jacks with my head a lot if
Speaker 1: you if you watch it, it's so intense. But I
Speaker 1: contend that the whole setting of the backdrop for The
Speaker 1: Shining is it's always been a little bit odd because
Speaker 1: it's it trying makes you think it's supernatural, but it's
Speaker 1: really about a man's own psychosis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's hidden under the guise of something
Speaker 2: super natural. And that's something that we bring up within
Speaker 2: the film too, is like, this is one of the
Speaker 2: greatest people you know put this on their top five
Speaker 2: at least horror films.
Speaker 1: A horror films.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not really a horror film. There's nothing
Speaker 2: that happens throughout the movie that's considered horror until the
Speaker 2: last thirty minutes of the movie. That's it.
Speaker 1: So it's like I kind of at points that it
Speaker 1: did kind of drag in the middle because it again,
Speaker 1: but I love how you're coming at this. If you
Speaker 1: look at Jack's character, I mean, the guy is this
Speaker 1: going deeper and deeper. You know, it's like he's losing
Speaker 1: all basis of reality.
Speaker 2: And the only time that he experienced anything strange and
Speaker 2: started seeing you know, people within the like you know,
Speaker 2: ghost and apparitions and stuff is when he took that
Speaker 2: alcoholic drink from Lloyd. Then he goes into the room
Speaker 2: two thirty seven because Wendy comes down and Wendy is like, oh,
Speaker 2: Danny got attacked by this old lady in an upstairs room.
Speaker 2: So then he goes up there and then he sees
Speaker 2: the old the really attractive woman then turn into an
Speaker 2: elderly lady. And then when Wendy ask him about it later,
Speaker 2: he's like, nothing happened. I didn't see I didn't see
Speaker 2: a damn thing up there. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: and the CIA has been known too, you know, in
Speaker 2: in the early days to spike people's drinks with LSD.
Speaker 2: There's many cases of that. There's even cases of people
Speaker 2: springing LSD aerosol in a room to make to make
Speaker 2: people trip out. And one of the famous cases of
Speaker 2: that was Blinking on his name. But there is Sidney
Speaker 2: Gottlieb spike this guy's drink. It's there's a whole Netflix
Speaker 2: documentary about it, and he ended up committing suicide and
Speaker 2: killing himself jumping out of a window, and we show
Speaker 2: the document in the movie.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you writers as a person that in
Speaker 1: my youth, you know, I have a very close association
Speaker 1: with LSD. But my point is where the CIA is
Speaker 1: concerned in mind control, such as MK ultra. There was
Speaker 1: this everywhere from the military industrial complex into domestic intelligence.
Speaker 1: For I'd probably say about maybe seven eight years thereabouts,
Speaker 1: there was this concentrated effort of seeing what LSD had
Speaker 1: on the effect of individuals and society in large groups.
Speaker 1: What do you think the purpose of that was? And
Speaker 1: it was it was incorporated in a number of films.
Speaker 2: Well, taking some kind of hallucinogenic knowingly and you know
Speaker 2: what it is taking and you're expecting to feel the
Speaker 2: effects of that is one thing, but unknowingly getting those
Speaker 2: with it, you're going to think that you're losing your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're going to be like, what is going on right now?
Speaker 1: What ticularly the LSD the government used it. It was
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes many times five hundred and seven to
Speaker 1: fifty mics, which that will fuck with your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of it was some of the first LSD
Speaker 2: that they they used in the MK Ultra programs, which
Speaker 2: wasn't called mk Ultra when it first started. It went
Speaker 2: under different names like Artichoke and different types of code
Speaker 2: words and code names. But some of the first experiments
Speaker 2: were done on military personnel, army personnel which they use and.
Speaker 1: They were talking with goats come from those guys were.
Speaker 2: That's the start that's involved with the remove viewing program
Speaker 2: of the Stargate Project. Lim Buchanan, which the I've had
Speaker 2: on my show several times. He was the character in
Speaker 2: the Minister at Goats was named Lynn and it's kind
Speaker 2: of based off of limb Buchanan's experience. Okay, many people
Speaker 2: will claim that the men who Stericoats is about them
Speaker 2: and all, just like they do with you know, stranger
Speaker 2: things like I am the real eleven, you know, just
Speaker 2: like and in Breaking Back, a completely fictional show, people
Speaker 2: will be like, I'm the real Walter White, you know.
Speaker 2: There several people say that they there were the real person.
Speaker 1: But with the LSD though, I mean there there there
Speaker 1: was a purpose. I wonder many times, I don't think
Speaker 1: we really get the full story. I think there was
Speaker 1: far much more that they were digging for.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it wasn't It just didn't have to do
Speaker 2: with LSD. It has had to do with many drugs.
Speaker 2: A lot of the antidepressants and antipsychotics also came out
Speaker 2: of the m k AULTU programs. They were tested on
Speaker 2: individuals before they ever hit the public Adderall riddling was
Speaker 2: all tested on mk Ultra patients before they were given
Speaker 2: to the public. So pretty much all we have a
Speaker 2: list of all of the medications that the CIA tested
Speaker 2: in the mk Ultra programs in the movie.
Speaker 1: In the movie, there's like over.
Speaker 2: One hundred different medications that they were using. And Sydney
Speaker 2: gott Leave, the head of the mk Ultra programs, had
Speaker 2: a brother that was a plant biologist, So there you go.
Speaker 2: Plant biologists is the brother the head of the mk
Speaker 2: Ultra programs. So that's just been two and two together.
Speaker 2: There's not really any you know, proof that he was
Speaker 2: making concoctions, but it only stands to reason that if
Speaker 2: he's a plant biologist, he's making weird concoctions and giving
Speaker 2: him to his brother to use on these patients. So
Speaker 2: when people think that it's just the LSD, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's like almost every single pharmaceutical medication that is readily
Speaker 2: used today was used in those programs before they were
Speaker 2: given to the public. And then what did they put
Speaker 2: kids on when they don't behave or whenever they're not
Speaker 2: school riddle in our adderall right, or some sort of
Speaker 2: ADHD medication.
Speaker 1: And I was heard that this has gone back further
Speaker 1: if you go back into the air here in the
Speaker 1: United States where we had asylums, you know, these mineral
Speaker 1: asylums which held five six seven thousand patients at a time.
Speaker 1: That it is said that this was more government driven
Speaker 1: because they didn't have the accountability factor that they did
Speaker 1: they would have today, and that many of the breakthroughs
Speaker 1: in drugs and what have you that we have is
Speaker 1: because of the experiments that they did on the so
Speaker 1: called mentally ill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the insane asylum thing was that.
Speaker 1: Would be a good documentary because there were some there
Speaker 1: was some evil stuff going on there. I mean that
Speaker 1: that the governments and medical the medical industry knew about
Speaker 1: in fact condoned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and propped up. And I just had one
Speaker 2: eye Alla on my show recently, and we did a
Speaker 2: whole thing on like trebidation. Trebnation, it's either trab nation
Speaker 2: or trebidation. I think they're both really similar. But that
Speaker 2: that when you you basically drill a hole into your
Speaker 2: like frontal lobe, and it's supposed to disconnect some things
Speaker 2: that make you be able to see the spiritual realm
Speaker 2: and be in contact with like entities and like see
Speaker 2: people's uh.
Speaker 1: Scene through lotomy in order to touch God pretty much.
Speaker 2: But that that was the that's yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: But that's how the lobotomy really started. Yeah, with that
Speaker 2: type of scenario and that belief that if you drilled
Speaker 2: a hole in the frontal lobe of your brain that
Speaker 2: you would unlock these spiritual and then it eventually turned
Speaker 2: into lobotomies. The transorbital lobotomy, the open brain lobotomy, the
Speaker 2: open brain lobotomy were some of the first ones that
Speaker 2: ever happened. And that's where they would literally just you know, surgically,
Speaker 2: just putting up your skull and screw around with your brain.
Speaker 2: And then they realize that all they have to do
Speaker 2: is disconnect that that frontal load thing. So then they
Speaker 2: just took an ice pick and put it through your
Speaker 2: tear duct of your eye and then wiggle around the
Speaker 2: ice pick and it turns you into basically a zombie.
Speaker 1: Now that's a horror film. Brother, I don't care what
Speaker 1: anyone that just the thought of that alone, I mean,
Speaker 1: holy crap.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to some and seeing the oldest seen
Speaker 2: asylums that are still up and up and running. There's
Speaker 2: one in West and West Virginia called trans No, they're
Speaker 2: not up and they're not up and running anymore. They
Speaker 2: just do like tours. They do like historical tours, and
Speaker 2: some of them do like, you know, ghost tours at
Speaker 2: night and then paranormal tours and stuff. But the translag
Speaker 2: Any Lunatic Asylum is the second largest handmade building in
Speaker 2: the United States is still standing.
Speaker 1: It's massive, huge property. I've seen pictures of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get the whole thing in one photo.
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's one of the things I
Speaker 1: have against Reagan. Reagan basically cut off all funding of
Speaker 1: and you know, let me just say that there were
Speaker 1: a lot of asylums that were a refuge for people
Speaker 1: that were truly had issues and that there were therapies
Speaker 1: that were able to help them overcome that. So but
Speaker 1: during the Reagan administration they shut them all down. I
Speaker 1: mean I remember driving through Mississippi and seeing the Mississippi
Speaker 1: State Mental Asylum.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And they would they would literally admit
Speaker 2: people for the most ridiculous things, like you could literally
Speaker 2: take your family member or your wife is like you
Speaker 2: just didn't want to be with your wife anymore. You
Speaker 2: could just take her and drop her off at the
Speaker 2: Insale asylum.
Speaker 1: And they wouldn't be any questions asked.
Speaker 2: No questions ask And I've literally seen trans Alleghany the
Speaker 2: log book because they have the logbook that you can
Speaker 2: go through you can see all of the reasons for
Speaker 2: why some of these patients were admitted. And one of
Speaker 2: them was just like, well, one of the funny ones
Speaker 2: is like excessive masturbation, which I thought was really funny, like.
Speaker 1: How much is too much and how much is too little?
Speaker 1: I've never read that book. Sorry, we're finding that you're
Speaker 1: you know, and is that male or female? I'm not
Speaker 1: really confused.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading through it and I went down
Speaker 2: to the bottom and just said reason for admission masturbation.
Speaker 2: That's how insane it was back then though. And some
Speaker 2: of them, some of the entries were for just having
Speaker 2: a common cold, just being a little sick or having
Speaker 2: an upset stomach, like they would literally just take their
Speaker 2: family members and just drop them off at this Saint Asylomon.
Speaker 2: They went through torturous things at that point. It was like,
Speaker 2: you know, electric shock, super like ice baths, like torturous conditions,
Speaker 2: like it was just a really bad scenario to being.
Speaker 4: So in an enlightened society, US folks, you know, this
Speaker 4: is where our parents and grandparents are from and that
Speaker 4: was completely acceptable.
Speaker 1: I'm asking what the hell was wrong with us? And
Speaker 1: let me tell you writer, and I know we've really
Speaker 1: gone over thank you for hanging on.
Speaker 2: But so.
Speaker 1: The skeptic within me says, all right, Steiger, you've got
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people that didn't have to be
Speaker 1: accounted for. Now what makes you think they stop doing that?
Speaker 1: So where are they getting their victims at? You know,
Speaker 1: you and I were talking over the weekend. You know
Speaker 1: the thing that's not talked about is the number of
Speaker 1: missing homeless. And by the way, this is not a
Speaker 1: small number. This is numbers that are now reaching six
Speaker 1: seven figures. They think because no one tracks the homeless,
Speaker 1: and and I can't help but not think and this
Speaker 1: is just a conspiracy. Theorist in me says that these
Speaker 1: facilities still exist, they just don't exist out in the open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, It's highly plausible. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: What was the reason that we did that back then? Like,
Speaker 2: did we do it because there was actually something wrong
Speaker 2: with these people? Or were there was there nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with them? And then we still put them there because
Speaker 2: we didn't want them a part of our society anymore.
Speaker 2: We wanted this, you know, this perfect picturesque kind of
Speaker 2: society that looked amazing from the outside. So we took
Speaker 2: all of the people that might have been different and
Speaker 2: we locked them up.
Speaker 1: I contend that, you know, but now it's not that anymore.
Speaker 2: Now we'll just put you on fifty medications. Now we'll
Speaker 2: dose your child up with antidepressants, antipsychotics, adderall riddling, nerve
Speaker 2: pills whatever.
Speaker 1: When you look at the medical industry in itself, I
Speaker 1: mean back in the late seventeenth eighteenth nineteenth century, they
Speaker 1: would steal cadavers grave robbers to bring the cadavers to
Speaker 1: what would be considered people not have stable. But they
Speaker 1: were doctors. So we learned the anatomy of the human body.
Speaker 1: And then you got to take it that the brain.
Speaker 1: The brain is the last frontier. You figure the brain
Speaker 1: out and you've got the holy Grail, so to speak.
Speaker 1: And I contend that it's today I think they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to capture the human soul. Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, this is not medical advice. You know,
Speaker 1: you get this crap sometimes. Well, all we're simply saying
Speaker 1: is what it is, by the evidence and it's out
Speaker 1: there because you know, when you.
Speaker 2: Look at some of the pharmaceutical drug company is from
Speaker 2: like way back in the day. The very first manufacturer
Speaker 2: of LSD that made a deal with the CIA to
Speaker 2: manufacture LSD for them was Eli Lilly Company. Yeah. Eli
Speaker 2: Lilly Company was also the first manufacturer of Prozac.
Speaker 1: And a lot of these coincidence nothing to see here, just.
Speaker 2: A crazy coincidence there. And from my personal research and
Speaker 2: my personal thoughts and theories, is that what they were
Speaker 2: trying to do. Because when the CIA released the LSD
Speaker 2: to the public and like you know, made it readily available,
Speaker 2: which is another thing that we talk about within our
Speaker 2: film A Clockwork Shining, is that the CIA pretty much
Speaker 2: created the counterculture, but then they also stomped out the counterculture.
Speaker 2: They also destroyed the counterculture with the Manson Tate murders.
Speaker 2: After the Manson Tate murders, it was like just kind
Speaker 2: of over at that point, it was done. And Mark Devlin,
Speaker 2: which is in our film, he believes that that was
Speaker 2: a setup to basically destroy the monster that they created.
Speaker 2: So you have LSD that's linked to Charles Manson, then
Speaker 2: his crew does this murder and then it takes it out.
Speaker 1: That's completely different than Timothy Larry. You know Timothy Larry
Speaker 1: who ran for governor against d Reagan. By the way,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he did, didn't Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you were talking about this. You know, I used
Speaker 1: to sell drugs at back in nineteen seventy thereabouts, and
Speaker 1: I would get you know, the LSD. I would pick
Speaker 1: it up, typically from someone that was a chemist, and
Speaker 1: many times it you know, it's quite interesting because there
Speaker 1: would be thousands of hits, you know, of orange Sunshine,
Speaker 1: and so that tell told me that someone's manufacturing this
Speaker 1: on a much larger scale.
Speaker 2: Then when you look at like, okay, well, the main
Speaker 2: manufacturer in the United States was Eli Lilly Company. They
Speaker 2: were had a contract with the CIA to distribute these
Speaker 2: all the CIA, all the acid and the LSD for
Speaker 2: the CIA. And then the CIA realizes that they made
Speaker 2: a huge mistake by bringing this to the population.
Speaker 1: They like it, they like it.
Speaker 2: This is a problem, This is becoming a real issue.
Speaker 2: How do we how do we take care of this problem? Well,
Speaker 2: one what you would do is you would create a
Speaker 2: scenario like the Manson Tate situation that puts this in
Speaker 2: the Then unfavorable contacts with a with a quas a
Speaker 2: serial killer, so you would link that and the next
Speaker 2: thing that you would want to do is that you
Speaker 2: would want to take away all of the enlightening effects
Speaker 2: and consciousness expanding effects of LSD, but you still want
Speaker 2: to have the drug, and rose that comes in. That's
Speaker 2: where these antidepressants come in.
Speaker 1: They're there.
Speaker 2: An offshoot of LSD, but without the enlightening and consciousness
Speaker 2: expanding effects of it. Is the is the dumbing down
Speaker 2: and the zombie effects of it. So they they've chemically
Speaker 2: changed LSD it's at its fundamental structure to rid the
Speaker 2: drug of any healthy benefits. And then they put the
Speaker 2: culture in the society on anti depressants and anti psychotics.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at the statistics of how
Speaker 2: many people are on pharmaceutical medications is ridiculous. Over half
Speaker 2: the population in the United States pharmaceutical medication.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's back when I was single,
Speaker 1: I dated a couple of ladies that were psychedesh. You know, well, right,
Speaker 1: this really went way over. I apologize for that. Interesting
Speaker 1: conversation and someone talked about ka ludes. Yeah, got some
Speaker 1: stories on that one. Oh, boy, boy boy. Great sex though,
Speaker 1: that's all I got to say. Sex on LSD, wasn't
Speaker 1: That's a whole different hold bucket deal, becauesn't.
Speaker 2: You start laughing? You just start just laughing.
Speaker 1: True story, You forget what you're doing. Absolute truth story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, I just don't remember Susie looking at me,
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