WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Good evening, everyone, and welcome to another edition of The 2 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:09.880 Cajun Night Live. I am your host, Jacob Mook, the 3 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:12.800 Cajun Knight, And as always, we do have a few 4 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.000 things that I would like to talk about on this evening. 5 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:20.199 Some geopolitical, some American kerfuffling going on here. I don't 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:22.879 know if anybody's heard about this, but Northrop Grumming just 7 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:27.719 had an explosion at one of their munitions manufacturing facilities 8 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:32.960 in Utah. We'll be discussing it. Also, a Facebook whistleblower. 9 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.240 I guess I don't want to just say Facebook, right, 10 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.479 it's the metaverse and all of that has come forward 11 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:43.399 before US representatives to explain how Zuckerberg completely sold us 12 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:50.600 out to the CCP, knowingly, belligerently, all the things alongside that. 13 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:56.079 Apparently the tariff war that's going on. China just blinked 14 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.119 and has agreed to come to the negotiation table after 15 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.000 Trump hit them with a collective two hundred and forty 16 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.079 five percent tariff rate. We're gonna talk about that too. Also, 17 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.680 Chernobyl might be healing itself. Apparently there is a new 18 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:15.920 black fungus that is actually drinking in it's feeding itself 19 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:20.120 off of toxic radiation, and I don't know how this 20 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.920 has happened. Nature finds a way, you know, I have 21 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.719 my religious beliefs as to how nature finds away. Some 22 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.599 people will say that it's science and evolution fixing itself. 23 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.239 Either way you want to slice it, that's good shit. 24 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.120 We have a lot of good things to discuss on 25 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.079 this evening. So as we move on, I'm going to 26 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.000 take a little gander over here at the chat. Royce 27 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.840 Sen sends something in here, what is this dead woman 28 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.359 turning up in New England? Beach Town's police denial way, whoa, whoa? 29 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:54.159 We got a serial killer in New England eventually, potentially allegedly. Okay, 30 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:56.359 all right, well hey why not. I'm gonna pull that 31 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.719 one up too. We'll see what the time looks like 32 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.480 if we get to the end of it it. Oh man, 33 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.560 oh wow, okay, yeah, this is from people, so yes, 34 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:06.640 I know it's a tabloid. Me me me, you know, 35 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:08.520 I A if we have a new serial killer on 36 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.039 the lose, I think we should discuss it, so, uh, 37 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.960 you know, to start, let's go ahead and get in 38 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.680 on the Facebook conversation. I'm gonna go ahead and share 39 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:19.960 the screen at this time. And for anybody that is 40 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.960 listening to this on Thursday who would like to be 41 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.360 a part of this conversation or see what we are 42 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.080 talking about, then please come check out the Cajun Night 43 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.840 on Patreon. It is the only place, Okay, it's the 44 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:31.879 only place to see what we're doing here. It's the 45 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:33.960 only place to be able to join in on the conversation. 46 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.439 And there's only one tier for injury. Not trying to 47 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.400 have no kind of other whole side hustle here. It's 48 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.199 just a way to uh get this collective group, all 49 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.439 of the same mindset to be a part of this conversation. 50 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.240 This is a ten minute long video. I'm not gonna 51 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.360 play all of it. I want to play maybe like 52 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.000 six minutes of it, but I do want to stop 53 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.479 and talk about a few things along the way. So 54 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.960 just off the title here. This is from Forbes Breaking News. 55 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:02.039 Facebook whistleblower makes shot claim about Mark Zuckerberg during senate testimony. 56 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.439 Y'all get ready for this one, because Zuckerberg has had 57 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:09.400 this weird character arc, if you will, right under the 58 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:12.400 Biden administration, he was that weird alien dude that was 59 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.919 sitting on top of two separate couch cushions when he 60 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.400 was testifying, right, and he had like this whole thing 61 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.159 where he was drinking water like some sort of animatronic thing. 62 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.120 All of a sudden he starts doing BJJ. He lets 63 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.919 his hair grow out a little bit, and then he 64 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.120 goes on Rogan like six months ago, and he seems 65 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:32.400 like a normal, almost bro, like an almost normal guy. 66 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.560 Then we find out these things about him and it's like, ooh, man, 67 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.360 that character arc age like milk. But let's listen in. 68 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.439 They all turn it over to you, Thanks very much, 69 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:49.560 missus chairman. In order to operate in China, the Kindis 70 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:54.360 Party requires American companies to register with authorities and host 71 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:59.400 servers inside the country. And I think it's pretty well 72 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:04.080 known that Chinese law requires that security services are allowed 73 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:11.759 access to any data hosted within the country. Did any 74 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:18.639 of Facebook's security team or its engineers raise concerns to 75 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.360 management about American's private information being exposed to Chinese. 76 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.399 Spye, Yes, Senata, they did. 77 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:27.720 How did they do that? 78 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.800 They documented their concern in a number of ways. They 79 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:38.079 noted that this would happen, that the Chinese would get 80 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:43.279 access to the data, and they also noted that they're 81 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:48.319 concerned in other discussions and other documentations saying, you know, 82 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:53.879 my red line as a security engineer is to not 83 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.079 be comfortable with us, But my red line is not 84 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:57.519 Mark Zuckerberg's red line. 85 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.040 Maybe you can explain what you mean by that. 86 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:07.000 The engineer was saying that they were not comfortable with 87 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.600 the way the China Project was structured that would allow 88 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.639 the Chinese Communist Party to potentially access American citizens data. 89 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:23.199 But in saying that, they noted that, you know, that's 90 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.360 a red line for me as a security engineer. That's 91 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.399 not Mark Zuckerbog's red line. 92 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:29.959 Did you sense he had any red line? 93 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:33.480 I did not. 94 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:35.480 If he did, you don't know what it was. 95 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:41.839 I don't right off the rip here just gonna say. 96 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.319 And they talk about this as like a backdated conversation 97 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.360 like this was you know, a few years back or whatever. 98 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.800 Then they kind of go into that this is more modern, 99 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.399 as in within the last twelve months. This is not good. 100 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:57.120 This is not a good look for us. And yes, 101 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:02.240 I understand everybody I harp on West Taiwan aka China 102 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:07.399 being America's biggest threat at this time, and that is 103 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.279 a very true statement. And That's why a lot of 104 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.480 the people in DC, namely Trump is coming at them 105 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.240 in the way that they are, although he's doing it 106 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.160 for tariff and trade reasons. The data situation is something 107 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.240 that we've talked about it at length as far as 108 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.959 why that's so dangerous for them to get American data 109 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.639 in that way. And that's a very good point. For 110 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.079 anything of the metaverse to operate inside of China, they 111 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.800 have to operate off of Chinese servers that are owned 112 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.480 in part by the CCP, and they have to have 113 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:43.279 access to all of that. Those servers can go backwards, right, 114 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.879 It's like hacking a system. There's always a backdoor. If 115 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.800 you're able to hack in to the servers located in China, 116 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.519 then you're able to hack into the entire metaverse through 117 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:56.279 the servers in China. And apparently Zuckerberg knew about this 118 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.120 and said, yeah, run it, but let's continue. 119 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:06.040 If you have more information related to these spying risks, 120 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.279 would you be willing to share it with a committee? 121 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:17.120 I would, Senator, And Mark Zuckerberg was knowledgeable about the planning, 122 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.879 and do you know whether he was knowledgeable about the 123 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.160 risks as well. 124 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.879 My understanding is that the risk is the hardest part 125 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.279 of the plan, so it's unthinkable that he was not 126 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:31.160 aware of the risk. 127 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.600 Nothing happened here without his approval and knowledge. 128 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.120 This was a project unlike any other project I worked 129 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.959 on during my time. It matter and that it was 130 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:46.160 so centrally led by Mark Zuckerberg, and he was so 131 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:53.959 personally invested in this project. He learned Mandarin, he traveled 132 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:59.160 to China more than any other country, He had weakly 133 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:06.600 Mandarin sessions with employees, and this was It's hard to 134 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.079 overstate how different this project was to any other project 135 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.000 I experienced in my many years of the company. 136 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:19.000 So there would be no credibility to his denying that 137 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.600 he knew about the risks. He knew about the concerns 138 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.959 raised by his engineers and his China team, and he 139 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:31.879 was intimately involved in not only the planning and the engineering, 140 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.759 but also in taking those risks Sanator. 141 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:39.200 He was traveling to Beijing. 142 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.480 In the documents submitted to. 143 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:49.159 The Okay, real quick, real quick, Yeah, that's some pretty 144 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.000 damning evidence like Okay, your boy picking up a second 145 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.200 language or I don't know how many languages Marcus Zuckerberg speaks, 146 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.879 but fine, learning Mandarin. That is a red flag, but 147 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.120 only if you're looking for it to be a red flag. 148 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:05.440 I understand that, right, Fine, giving the credit where it's due, 149 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.080 going and having weekly meetings with representatives in China that 150 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.559 over of course are of the CCP, and then going 151 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.600 to Beijing to have these kinds of formal face to 152 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.039 face meetings about all of this, knowing full well the 153 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:25.480 security risks and saying yeah, run it. It's just it's 154 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:29.279 part of this business. Yeah, massive red flag. And again 155 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.519 I would personally say, arguably treason is but we're going. 156 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.720 To continue subcommittee. Facebook appears to have been willing to 157 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:41.080 provide the data of users in Hong Kong to the 158 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.080 Chinese government at a time when pro democracy protesters were 159 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:52.879 opposing Beijing's crackdown. Is that impression correct and how did 160 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:58.200 Facebook treat Taiwan or Hong Kong? 161 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:05.279 That impression is correct. And one of the more surprising 162 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.639 things is that as part of the censorship tool that 163 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:15.840 was developed, there were virality counters, So anytime a piece 164 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:21.480 of content got over ten thousand views, that would automatically 165 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:25.000 trigger it being reviewed by what they called the chief editor. 166 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:31.720 And what was particularly surprising is that the virality counters 167 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:37.159 were not just installed, but activated in Hong Kong and 168 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:38.720 also in Taiwan. 169 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:44.559 All right, let's just make sure we heard that one right. Okay. 170 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:49.000 So they literally had a filter on this to where 171 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.879 any post, any thread, anything that was going on in 172 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:58.840 metaverse that got over ten thousand views or shares or anything. Okay. 173 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.879 Ten thousand is not a big number as far as 174 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.200 the world of content creation goes, right, as far as 175 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.799 the world of social media goes, if something got ten 176 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.240 thousand hits of any type, it would immediately get viewed 177 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.360 by the chief editor again, a representative from the CCP 178 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.200 for review to make sure that it wasn't putting anything 179 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.480 in a negative light quote unquote, specifically in Hong Kong 180 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:30.399 and Taiwan. And Zuckerberg said, yeah, run that shit, all right, 181 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:34.200 all right, let. 182 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:41.559 Me ask you. I raised in my remarks, and I 183 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.399 know that a number of other colleagues did as well, 184 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:50.000 the record of misrepresentation and to see one of our 185 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.799 former colleagues. Senator Lahy asked Mark Zuckerberg in twenty eighteen 186 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:59.080 whether Facebook would comply with Chinese censorship and surveillance demand. 187 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:05.039 Even asked if Facebook had built censorship tools to enter 188 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:11.200 the Chinese market, and Zuckerberg responded, I'm quoting because Facebook 189 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:13.799 has been blocked in China since two thousand and nine. 190 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.240 We are not in a position to know exactly how 191 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.840 the government would seek to apply its laws and regulations 192 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:25.639 on content were we permitted to offer our service to 193 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:30.000 Chinese users. Ms Williams, was that accurate? 194 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:32.000 That is not accurate. 195 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:37.120 You know, hundreds of decisions had been made, and by 196 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:40.480 twenty eighteen, they'd been in dialogue directly with the Chinese 197 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.240 Communist Party for four years. 198 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:51.600 The fact is, by twenty eighteen, Facebook built, it even 199 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:57.919 turned on censorship and surveillance tools that it developed. It 200 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.279 developed for Chinese security officials. 201 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:06.399 Correct, it developed, and those Chinese Communist Party officials tested 202 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.080 the censorship tool, and we'll give feedback and say this 203 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.080 needs to change, or we need this, or we need 204 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:17.519 confidence that you can capture images and filter images we 205 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:18.559 don't want seeing it. 206 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:23.039 You know, we talk a lot about nineteen eighty four, 207 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:30.639 Facebook developed a Varrylity counter tool that directed any posts 208 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.799 of over ten thousand views to be reviewed by an 209 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:39.919 Orwellian named quote unquote chief editor. Is that correct? 210 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:41.039 That's correct? 211 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:45.159 And was the chief editor's geographic reach limited to mainland 212 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:49.279 China or did they plan to cover other locations. 213 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.480 They planned to cover Hong Kong and Taiwan, as. 214 00:13:52.399 --> 00:14:00.000 My understanding, so their surveillance operation was directed at Taiwan 215 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.399 on that's my understanding. 216 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:02.799 Session. 217 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.519 And now that also, yeah, I understand that makes sense, 218 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.720 right because China is of the belief that Taiwan is 219 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.080 theirs or something, and they were also of the belief 220 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.639 that Hong Kong should be a part of China. That 221 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.679 was the whole reason for the uh, for the the 222 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:23.759 riots and all of that that happened not too terribly 223 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:27.519 long ago. But yeah, so I know what they're trying 224 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.759 to get at here, and they don't expressly say it, 225 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:34.519 but essentially they are getting at the point to where 226 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.200 they're saying that China is just going to do that 227 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.519 only on Chinese territory. Right, Obviously they're not. They're not 228 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.279 gonna do that to any other country. However, they had 229 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.679 the ability to because the metaverse is in fact one 230 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:51.159 cohesive metaverse. Yes, I'm sure it differs country to country 231 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.639 and region or region, it's only a hack away any 232 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.879 of it's only a hack away. So if they were 233 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:02.279 putting a virility counter on Taiwanese and Kong posts at 234 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.879 that time, for the principle of trying to make sure 235 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:07.840 that everything was in line and following in with you 236 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.519 know what the CCP deemed to be appropriate. Yeah, that's 237 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.000 not that's not positive, y'all. This is not a good 238 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.600 thing for anybody, especially not America, and the fact that 239 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.919 Zuck lied overtly lied about all of it is a 240 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.120 reason for concern, if nothing else. So once again, I'm 241 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:27.120 not saying fully treason this, but I'm also saying that 242 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.840 I trust Zuck even less than I already did. Merlin, 243 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.679 I see your hand raise, Please go ahead. 244 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.480 Well, I was just reading the article on the tech spot, 245 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.799 and it also says that since this happened, her book 246 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.000 sales have gone through the root. I could believe that, 247 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:48.759 but also that let me find out. 248 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.240 Part of the art. 249 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:53.039 There was an article. 250 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.919 Meta has denied allegations, with spokesman Andy Stone calling her 251 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:01.000 claims divorced from reality. He acknowledged that the company explored 252 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.559 entering the Chinese market more than a decade ago, but 253 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.159 emphasize that Meta does not coop does not operate services 254 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:13.159 in JHN also accused when Williams of reviving outdated and 255 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:17.240 false accusations for the best selling memoir Careless People, A 256 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:21.000 Cautionary Tale of power greed. Yeah, but that's what they're 257 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:22.360 saying about it crazy. 258 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.279 It makes sense that they would also take an oppositional 259 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.840 stance to this and for the oh yeah God to 260 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.039 be able to show her sipts. That's all I'm saying, 261 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.840 because she is making some very very bold claims. And 262 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.000 I'm not even saying bold isn't like hard to believe. 263 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:42.120 I'm just saying overall that is, uh, that's damning uh accusations. 264 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:47.039 So let's hope, let's hope and pray that that is 265 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:50.080 not what happened. Zuck seriously didn't sell out the metaverse 266 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:54.039 to the CCP, But you know, I honestly don't know. 267 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.879 I don't trust him anyway. I didn't trust him before 268 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.320 I heard any of these things, especially with China being 269 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.720 what they are. I'm gonna let my favorite Taiwanese man 270 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.720 speak on this at this moment, Donald Trump, don't trust China. 271 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.920 China is ass ho. I fucking love that guy, like 272 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.599 I think he's done my actual spirit animal. I wish 273 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:14.400 I knew his name. I wish I can get him 274 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.480 on the show. He's just great. Donal Trump, don't trust China. 275 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:23.160 China is ass ho. Yes, I know I'm not mature 276 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:25.519 enough to have certain conversations this guy. I have a 277 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.400 feel I'm gonna be playing more from him in a pit. 278 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.160 But anyway, all right, all right, so let's shift off 279 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:33.039 of China for a moment, and then we're gonna talk 280 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.440 back about China here in a minute. All right. I 281 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.960 did want to shift gears, though, towards this black fungus 282 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.240 that might be healing Chernobyl by drinking the radiation. All right, 283 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:47.119 this is this is insane. It's through a process very 284 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.759 similar to photosynthesis, but photo radiation synthesis. But I'm probably 285 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:54.000 butchering how that's pronounced. That's right, Let's read in on this. 286 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:57.000 This is from a Forbes article. The explosion of the 287 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.599 Number four reactor in Chernobyl Nuclear power Plant near pre Piat, 288 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.559 probably mispronouncing that in Ukraine on April twenty six, nineteen 289 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.440 eighty six, remains the worst nuclear disaster in human history. 290 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.440 It left a thirty kilometer exclusion zone, a deserted landscape 291 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.599 where high radiation levels remained even now, decades after the incident, 292 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.880 where human settlement and habitations are restricted within this zone. However, 293 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:24.039 scientists have discovered an unlikely survivor, a resilient black fungus 294 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:28.039 called yeah, I'm not even gonna try to pronounce that ladin, sorry, y'all. 295 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:32.119 After the Chernobyl disaster, scientists observe patches of blackened growths 296 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.519 on the walls of the Number four reactor fung guy 297 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.440 that seemed to thrive where radiation was highest. This is 298 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.240 actually a picture of it, and it kind of looks 299 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.359 like a black sand dollar almost. I'm sure I don't 300 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:44.880 know the actual size of that. I don't know that's 301 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:46.599 like the size of a quarter or the size of like, 302 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.799 you know, a doablloon or whatever, but like, yeah, I 303 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.880 could kind of see that the fungus has adapted to 304 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.000 a level of radiation that would like that would be 305 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.440 lethal for most life forms. Even more fascinating is its 306 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:02.160 ability to feed on this radiation, using it as a 307 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:05.799 source of energy, similar to how plants use sunlight for photosynthesis. 308 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:11.279 Further research discovered that spoor and some other black fungi 309 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.359 species like geez, there's so many of these big words, 310 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.960 all right, other types of black fung guy species possess melanin, 311 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:22.759 the pigment responsible for human skin color. However, in these fungui, 312 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:27.200 the melanin serves a different purpose. It absorbed radiation, which 313 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.480 was then converted into usable energy, allowing it to grow 314 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.839 in areas with intense radioactive exposure. Now, the fungus itself 315 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:38.720 belongs to a group of fung guid known as radiotropic fungui. 316 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:44.440 Radiotropic organisms can capture and utilize ionizing radiation to drive 317 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:49.039 metabolic metabolic processes. In the case of this particular black 318 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.640 fung god, its high melanin content allows it to absorb radiation, 319 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.039 similar to how plants absorb sunlight through chlorophyll. According to 320 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:59.240 an October two thousand and eight article published in the 321 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:03.359 National Library of Medicine, while this process is not identical 322 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.599 to photosynthesis, it serves as a comparable purpose and converts 323 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:13.000 energy from the environment to sustained growth. This phenomenon, called radiosynthesis, 324 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:17.400 has opened up exciting avenues in biochemistry and radiation research, 325 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.880 which I personally just on my own little two cents here, 326 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.519 that is amazing. Literally, nature finds a way to fix 327 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.400 itself even when humans do shit to destroy it. It's beautiful, 328 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.319 but anyway, melanin, found in many living organisms, acts as 329 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.000 a natural shield against UV radiation. However, in this black 330 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.440 fung guy, it does more than shield. It facilitates energy 331 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.480 production by converting gamma radiation into chemical energy. An article 332 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.480 published in the journal plus one in two thousand and 333 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.519 seven confirmed this unusual energy production mechanism, showing that fung gui, 334 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.480 like the black fung guy here, grown in high radiation 335 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.519 environments tends to grow faster than those in non radioactive conditions. 336 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.440 It is a discovery that is reshaping scientists understanding of 337 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:09.680 the survival strategies of extremophiles, organisms that can withstand extreme 338 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:13.079 environmental conditions. I think also i've heard that term be used. 339 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:18.279 What's that volcanic snail that has like an iron shell 340 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.720 and it lives like near the lava. I think they 341 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:25.000 also consider that an extremophile. Anyway, radiotropic fung guy may 342 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:28.000 be an ally in battling radiation. The discovery of this 343 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.640 new fung guy in the Chernobyl exclusion zone has brought 344 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.519 renewed attention to the radiotropic fung guy, particularly for their 345 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:39.079 potential role in bioremediation, the process of using living organisms 346 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:43.400 to remove pollutants from the environment. In radioactive sites like Chernobyl, 347 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:47.200 where conventional cleanup methods are challenging and hazardous, radiotropic fung 348 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.559 guy can provide a safer, natural alternative, according to an 349 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:55.160 April two thousand and eight article published in Film's Microbiology Letter, 350 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.319 Since this fung guy can absorb radiation and use it 351 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.519 as fuel, scientists are exploring the feasibility of deploying these 352 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.880 fung gui to contain and potentially reduce radiation levels in 353 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:10.000 contaminated areas Beyond the borders of the exclusion zones. Scientists 354 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:15.279 are investigating other applications, especially in the field of space exploration. Okay, 355 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.920 the harsh, radiation heavy environment of space is one of 356 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.880 the most significant challenges facing long term missions to Mars 357 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.119 and beyond. This fun guy has already been seen, has 358 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.920 already been sent rather to the International Space Station for 359 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.519 experiments to determine whether its unique radiation tolerance could protect 360 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:36.119 astronauts from cosmic radiation. Early results have been promising, suggesting 361 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:38.960 that this fung guy could potentially be used to develop 362 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:44.599 radiation resistant habitats or even provide radiation shielding shielded food sources. 363 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.480 For space travelers. All right, so I see two hands 364 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.559 raised Merlin, go ahead. 365 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.839 Oh shit, my bad, I forgot to unraise my hand. 366 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:56.480 Oh all good things, all right, go ahead. 367 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:01.519 Raven I dropped in the chat two different links. One 368 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.400 link the last the link that I just did. Is 369 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.160 it actually a scientific if people wanted. 370 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:08.279 To read it. 371 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.759 It's like really scientific about the black fungi and like 372 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.440 all the different ways that they are using it in 373 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.440 the black yeast, and how they've like pretty much they've 374 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:23.319 been stressing it. They stress test it to see what 375 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:27.920 it can survive. Stress simulation experiments demonstrated that the organism 376 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:33.599 can withstand physiochemical stress factors even far beyond those of 377 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:38.119 natural habitats. And it was I read the other article 378 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:43.799 was talking about the capacity of this organism is consense 379 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:45.240 radioactivity and. 380 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.200 Directly grows towards it. 381 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:50.319 And it's not only growing in spite of the radiation, 382 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.960 it's changing and manipulating itself because of it. There's actually 383 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.480 this is actually really fascinating. I've read like four articles 384 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:58.359 since you brought it up. 385 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.960 Wow, And I mean that's the thing. I had never 386 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.680 even heard of this. You're actually the one that sent 387 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:09.400 me this article. Was it yesterday, Yeah. 388 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:16.599 It's it actually was discovered in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, 389 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.359 five years after the disaster, they piloted a robot and 390 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.200 they discovered the jet black fungus growing on the inside 391 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.480 of the reactors. After that, a team of microbiologists and 392 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:33.000 virologists went into the site regularly. Their first impressions were 393 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.119 like they were talking about that it was really sad, 394 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:37.240 but they could tell that this organism was growing a 395 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.119 whole bunch And then through the nineties they went a 396 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.279 whole bunch of times and found that over two hundred 397 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.079 fungal species are growing at the site, including the jet 398 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.079 black fungi with the melanin pigment in it pigment in it. 399 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:54.559 And then that's when they hypothesized, like why is it 400 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.240 there and what is it doing? And they found that 401 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:00.240 its ionizing radiation altered the structure of the melon in 402 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.119 molecules in a way that it encouraged this fungi to 403 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.599 grow faster than identical samples that were not exposed radiation, 404 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.400 and the closer the fungui was to the source of radiation, 405 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.640 the more melanin was expressed. In short, the black fung 406 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:14.720 guy were not only growing in spite of the radiation, 407 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.759 they were changing and growing because of it. 408 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.400 So now I'm wondering, and I don't know if the 409 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.200 article you're reading has said anything about it. So is 410 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.400 this a new species? Jesus, I can't speak? Is this 411 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.119 a new species altogether? Like did this just one hundred 412 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.440 years ago? Or did this grow because the conditions were 413 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.279 right inside of that burned out reactor for it to 414 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:38.359 form on its own? 415 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.279 It looks like so that the really scientific species like 416 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:47.960 a species. The scientific one that I'm reading is talking 417 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.680 that it has like multiple types in this group of family, 418 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.119 and that this one in particular is they haven't seen 419 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.440 it grow before because it didn't have the extreme environments 420 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.839 to grow in. But this is a part of this 421 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.720 species that has been found all over the place in 422 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:11.240 harsh climates, and so it looks like it says Additionally, 423 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:16.839 the substantial parts of isolates from stressing environments is represented 424 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:21.559 by microcolonies of fungi and black yeast. So it's a 425 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.200 yes and no, Like this is a new it's it's 426 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:28.079 changing how it's the melanin is reacting, so it technically 427 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.839 is a new species. 428 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.440 Okay, so it's been around, but it's also because the 429 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.480 conditions are right, it was able to thrive rather than 430 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.119 just kind of growing a lab somewhere. 431 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.039 Uh yeah, well, like like they said that it's changing 432 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:47.759 the actual molecular level on how it interacts because it's 433 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.759 growing to the radiation and it's changing how it's absorbing 434 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:58.599 the melanin, and it's increasing instead of decreasing. So I 435 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.559 was trying to read the entire art because I was 436 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.359 trying to get to this space part about it because 437 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.160 I wanted to see what it said about that part. 438 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.160 Yeah, see what you can find on that, because I'm 439 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.680 going to read this next part here, the power of 440 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.000 adaptation to drive innovation. Here, it says, in addition to 441 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.319 its unique feeding habits, this fungus is also renowned for 442 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.319 its hard hardenedness excuse me. It can withstand low temperatures, 443 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.160 high salt concentrations, and extreme acidity, making one of the 444 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.519 most resilient fungi ever discovered. Its ability to adapt to 445 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.519 hostile environments has given researchers hope that it may hold 446 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.240 clues to further studies into stress tolerance mechanisms, which could 447 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.839 lead to advancements in biotechnology and agriculture. For example, genes 448 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.000 responsible for this hardiness and resilience might one day be 449 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:43.319 used to develop radiation resistant materials or be adapted to 450 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.240 help crop survive harsh climates. This fungus also hopes to 451 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.400 offers hope in addressing some pressing environmental challenges. It could 452 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.079 possibly play a role in cleaning up radioactive waste. Sure 453 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.559 as results excuse me as research continues. The lessons we 454 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.279 learn from this amazing fun guy could inspire innovation in 455 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.400 a wide range of fields and in the process, understanding 456 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.640 the boundaries of life itself. Now that I'm gonna try 457 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:18.839 my damnedest to pronounce this clautosporium spharospurmum clatosporium spa of 458 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:24.559 firnumps yup boy. One day one I would love to 459 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.920 learn how to speak Latin and Greek and Hebrew, but 460 00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.599 like I have a you know, some would argue a 461 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.319 horrible working understanding of the American English dialect. But yeah, 462 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.519 that it sounds. It sounds just like a mouthful here. 463 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.359 But okay, Now, as far as the space stuff goes, 464 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.519 sending it to the ISS for UH testing to see 465 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.759 how it would do again, solar radiation out in space. Okay, 466 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.880 I hear that that's good things. I don't necessarily know 467 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.960 how they plan on using that to yield crops unless 468 00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.720 they are this would be what would lead to possibly 469 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.119 like the terraforming of Mars. Right, if they were to 470 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.880 build some sort of a dome structure, and if Elon 471 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.119 actually is able to put people on Mars and this 472 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.599 whole thing, you would need some sort of plant life 473 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.599 that could take solar radiation to that level and feed 474 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.119 off of it and protect against in all these things. 475 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:23.240 I'm not wise enough in the world of agriculture to 476 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.480 understand how a fungus that white thrive in that environment 477 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.160 could help other plants do the same, unless they're talking 478 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.160 about doing some sort of a crazy gene splicing situation, 479 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.119 which maybe quite possibly. We keep hearing things about these 480 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.440 dire wolves that they brought out, which are not actually 481 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.599 dire wolves, but they keep acting like they are. But 482 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.680 if they were able to do some sort of a 483 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.799 cross breed or gene splice with the black fungui that 484 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.920 can eat radiation and a plant that could thrive and 485 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:57.480 possibly feed humans, Okay, that's say viable option here. I 486 00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.000 don't know if you've found anything as far as the 487 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.200 space side of things go. But that's that is pretty remarkable. 488 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.759 I'm still reading on it. 489 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.799 It's the it's actually really interesting that they're talking about 490 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.200 all sorts of different stuff that they've put this through. 491 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.920 And I dropped it in the chat, like where it's 492 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.119 actually been found before because I was I misspoke. I mean, 493 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.640 from what I understood, it hadn't been found. But it 494 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.920 says the high diversity of black funk Guy has however, 495 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.359 been observed in rocky environments in sub arid areas of 496 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:33.079 the Mediterranean, in the Arizona Desert, high Alpine regions, and 497 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.880 the Arctic and dry Antarctica valleys, where micro colony species 498 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.640 also known as rock inhibiting fungi, colonized exposed rock surfaces, 499 00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:44.680 or living associations with. 500 00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:46.640 Yep. 501 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:51.160 Big words that like you know, they're they're hard time. 502 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.240 If you can't pronounce them, then I got no chance. 503 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.799 But you can't pronounce some of the stuff. I'm like, yep, 504 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:56.559 I got you. 505 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:01.480 I'm currently it's it's a huge sign, aentific article and 506 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.440 it actually shows tons of photos and it breaks down. 507 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.920 I'm trying to get it to show drop it in 508 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.920 the chat. The mechanism stress tolerance that the fung guy 509 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:10.759 was put under. 510 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.039 It's actually a really cool. 511 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.920 Like it's this is a really interesting fungus because it 512 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:20.640 seems to be able to withstand pretty much everything. But 513 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.559 I wonder what they would use it for. That's what 514 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.000 I'm trying to get to. Like, it reminds me though 515 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.400 of that weird like movie where they had that weird 516 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.920 black fungus on board and then it was like came 517 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.480 back and like attacked everybody. 518 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.279 Yeah, I know, I know the movie you're talking about. 519 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.799 Cannot remember the name of it, but yeah, one hundred percent. 520 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:39.519 And that's that was the other thing I was going 521 00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.799 to say, like, all right, is there any potential dangers 522 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.200 with this? It seems on the onset like it's a 523 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.519 miracle fungus, right, And I see you in the chat there, Anthony. 524 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.400 If that mushroom is of the magic variety, it would 525 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.880 be an interesting trip. Dude. I don't know if i'd 526 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.799 even want to play with that. You're talking about a 527 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.119 mushroom that eats nuclear fall out to thrive. I don't 528 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.759 think I want that problem. I don't want to know 529 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.160 what that other side of the spirituality is with the 530 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:12.160 radiation fungus that I don't know. I guess you'll like 531 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.960 see the matrix of how nukes work that. Yeah, Merlin, 532 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.440 I see your hand raised brother, Go ahead. 533 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:21.000 Uh. 534 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.920 Some of the uses I've seen for it, or that 535 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:34.279 they're speculating is cancer patients undergoing radiation therapy, creating safer 536 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.160 environments when those working in nuclear power plants, and potentially 537 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:41.680 helping us to avoid the next nuclear related detachment. Scientists 538 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.480 also hope that the black Funk Guy could be used 539 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.279 to develop a biological source of energy via radiation conversion, 540 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.039 but there are also more part fetched possibilities. Scientists wonder 541 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.480 if the process and radiosynthesis performed by the melon in 542 00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.759 so of the fungu I could be applied to the 543 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:03.160 melonin and human skin cells, making our skin cells able 544 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.319 to turn radiation into food. 545 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.559 So now they're trying to see if humans could do 546 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.519 their own version of photosynthesis. 547 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:17.920 Yes, wow, which would help E where to live on Mars. 548 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.559 That would be dope. That would be really cool, except 549 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.640 I'm irish as hell. I don't have melanin in my skin, 550 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.279 some hasty white boy. I will say that certain demographics 551 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.079 would benefit greatly from that, and like that would be dope. 552 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:40.119 But yeah, for anybody of Northern European descent it, you know, 553 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.599 I don't know, maybe they could make some sort I 554 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.119 don't even know if this would be safe to ingest. 555 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:45.400 Like I was gonna say, maybe they could make some 556 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.319 food out of it. I heard Raven earlier say they 557 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.599 were doing some sort of yeast with it. If there's 558 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.359 so much, I. 559 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.119 Wonder how much you would need to put on the 560 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.839 Space Shuttle note to protect people from radiation. 561 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:02.480 Right, it's not like you're gonna get a living fungus 562 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.480 like that's not gonna make it through launch or through 563 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.559 the atmosphere any of that stuff. So it's yeah, you 564 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.679 would think I have no idea, But man, I mean, 565 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.119 I'm happy to hear that nature has provided a way 566 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.800 for us to clean up human made mess, you know 567 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.320 what I mean. But oh yeah, and there's nothing but 568 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.360 airon opportunities as far as what the scientific advancements can 569 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.960 show for this and other treatments and all these things, 570 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.920 like you said, like cancer patients, I don't know if 571 00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.280 they mean they're gonna implant some fungus near a spot 572 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.159 that was getting heavy radiation treatment to kill a tumor 573 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.159 or if they're talking about making some sort of ingestible 574 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:41.559 uh medication treatment option. But there's a lot of potential 575 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:42.400 for good things here. 576 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.519 So what happens if you're here with too much radiation? 577 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.280 Does it turn to the blob? Like that old ass movie? 578 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.079 See that's that's the other thing, Just like Raven was saying, 579 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.320 there's a movie where like a satellite had this black 580 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:55.159 mold that kind of took over and did all this 581 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.880 so like, and that's the thing inside of the burned 582 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.480 out reactor in Chernobyl that's gotten no out thing but 583 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.760 radioactive ways for it to just drink in and grow 584 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.519 as big as it won. So it hasn't taken over 585 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.400 Chernobyl as of yet, So I guess that's kind of 586 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.440 a good litmus test. But at the same time, if 587 00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.679 it was in the vacuum of space and had nothing 588 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.599 but solar radiation to eat, like, would it take over 589 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.360 the craft? I mean, as of now, the ISS hasn't 590 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.159 been taken over. Maybe it's a very controlled environment. I 591 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.599 don't know. I don't know. Again, this was this was 592 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.920 a wild one to bring up. Thank you Raven for 593 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.639 sharing this one with me. Zach I could bring it 594 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.400 up on this show. This is a weird thing I found. 595 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:38.920 I found their astrobiology study section. It was like, they're 596 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.920 talking about life outside the planet, beyond the planet of Earth, 597 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.800 and they're talking about practical applications and considering. 598 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.280 How biological organisms. 599 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:54.360 May travel in space and view a space exploration, the 600 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.559 impact on how space agencies design missions, as well as 601 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:03.679 implications of planetary protection policies aiming to prevent the introduction 602 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:10.480 of Earth origin or the originated life that may mislead 603 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:17.519 future life detection missions. So it's like talking about potentially 604 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.239 like bringing them to other planets, like bringing it to 605 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:28.480 other planets and seeing like yep Mars and icy icy 606 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.599 moons I eat. 607 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.000 Antarctica is a part of it. 608 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.360 To date, the studies have focused on testing the black 609 00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:40.639 fungi survival to space conditions throughout different stimulations, and so 610 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.280 pretty much they want to take it to space. 611 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:43.880 They want to see what happens. 612 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.559 I mean, so do I gonna be honest with you, 613 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.519 but yeah, I there's none but are an opportunity here 614 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.079 and I don't know, maybe there are some like serious 615 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.599 dangers and risks that are associated here that we just 616 00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:00.639 don't know about and we don't see I'll be very 617 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.559 interested to see what the studies show and what their 618 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.960 tests show as as far as this goes with the 619 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.320 with the new studies that they're doing towards us new 620 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.639 I would say, evolutionarily new fung guy. That is incredible. 621 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.400 That's interesting stuff, y'all. Interesting stuff, all right. So now 622 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.400 let's shift over to a little bit of a kaboom 623 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.440 that happened in Utah with Northrop Grumman. Now, for anybody 624 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.119 who doesn't know who Northrop Grumman is, highly recommend you 625 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:30.519 go and check it out. They make a lot of 626 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.840 things that go boom for the United States government. Right, 627 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.800 they're one of our big military industrial contractors. And you know, 628 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.119 we're gonna listen to the little news article about it, 629 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.400 then we'll read a little bit more about it. It says here, 630 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.320 Northern Utah news crews respond to a fire after Utah 631 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.400 Northrop Grumman facility explodes. 632 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.760 Tony, please say, a Northrop Grumman building is a total 633 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:53.159 loss after it exploded. 634 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.559 It happened in the remote town of Promontory. 635 00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.840 That's where we find ABC fors Nate Larson. 636 00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:59.679 Hey, do we know what may have caused us? 637 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.719 You know, they're still speculating at this point, we haven't 638 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.519 had an update on what the actual explosion was caused from. 639 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.039 You can see the building though, just over my shoulder, 640 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.599 and all the walls have been blown out, so definitely 641 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.599 a total loss. We are told that the explosion was 642 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.480 reported around seven thirty eight this morning, so it was 643 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.960 a very early explosion. There weren't any initial reports of 644 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:28.320 injuries or accidents to anybody. Now, just to give you 645 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.480 a better idea of where we're at, so this is 646 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.199 in very rural Box Elder County, about six miles south 647 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.760 of Howell, and it's about halfway between the Golden Spike 648 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:41.400 National Monument and Interstate eighty four. So all that's around 649 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:47.079 us is industrial buildings and no homes are really close by. Now, 650 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.800 with of course the emergency services on scene, they are 651 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.360 currently managing the situation. Initial reports, as I mentioned, no 652 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.760 injuries or fatalities have been reported by the Box Elder 653 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.360 County Sheriff's office. 654 00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:58.239 We've reached out to. 655 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.599 Any kind of PIO or response from Northrop Gremmen. We 656 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.280 haven't heard back and they say there's no further information 657 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.719 to release it this time. They want the public to try. 658 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:07.440 To avoid the area. 659 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.960 We're going to stay on site. We're gonna see if 660 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.199 we can find some people that maybe heard the explosion 661 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.079 or maybe know more about what happened. We'll bring you 662 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.880 more updates later in our newscast at ABC four News 663 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.320 at Fort Okay. 664 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:21.639 So I doubt that we'll actually get any kind of 665 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.440 explanation as to what happened. Like I said, they are 666 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.599 one of our big military industrial contractors, so they're not 667 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.400 going to talk. Even if it wasn't like some new 668 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.840 experimental you know, bomb or or you know, armament. Maybe 669 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:40.320 it was something that we mass produce and somebody crossed 670 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.639 some wires that shouldn't have been crossed, or throw something 671 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.440 flammable on something that shouldn't have had something flammable thrown 672 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.360 on it. Who knows. It may have been a freak 673 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.440 industrial accident, and the fact that it was at a 674 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:56.280 North of Grumming facility is just really bad timing and planning. Like, okay, fine, 675 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.199 that being said, we also we need to acknowledge the 676 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.000 fact that it very well could have been some sort 677 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.880 of new experimental armament that went kaboom when they tried 678 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.559 to make it. But let's read it in here. It 679 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.599 says a Promontory. Promontory, Utah emergency crews respond to a 680 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:19.920 rural North Grumman facility in Box Elder County. God, they're 681 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.760 very original with these names. After an explosion decimated the 682 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.320 building early Wednesday morning, leaving what remains burning in a fire. 683 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.880 I will say that I've seen videos of this. There 684 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.559 wasn't like a mushroom cloud of any type. There's no 685 00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.039 as we were just talking about radiation. It's nothing like nuclear. 686 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.400 It's nothing of that variety. It was a really big 687 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.159 kaboom and it completely destroyed the building. You can see 688 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:48.039 these pictures, it says. However, with as with all ongoing investigations, 689 00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.000 details may change. There is no further information available at 690 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.119 this time. One family member of a North of Grumman 691 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.480 employee spoke with ABC four, saying she received a text 692 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.639 right away after a brother in law saying he was safe, 693 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:03.239 even before she heard the news. Another said he reached 694 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.679 out to his dad as soon as he saw the smoke. 695 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.320 I've seen some smoke and then I sent a text 696 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.599 to my dad because he works out there. But by 697 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.679 the time the text went through, I heard the explosion. 698 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.599 Local resident Tyler Free said it actually felt like the 699 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.000 motor blew up in the truck. I don't exactly know 700 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.239 what he's implying on that one, but yeah, he could 701 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.679 feel a kaboom. The explosion came after several complaints about 702 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.239 the facility were filed with the US Occupational Safety and 703 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:33.239 Health Administration aka OSHA aka the bane of my existence 704 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.639 over the past several years. The reports included health violations, accidents, 705 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:41.199 and safety complaints. It is currently unclear what caused the explosion, 706 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.480 but the building appears to be a complete loss. In 707 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.719 one incident, two employees died after they were found unconscious 708 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.639 at the facility in early twenty twenty three. The death 709 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.039 was caused by ar gone gas, which officials said suffocated them. 710 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.079 While their deaths were ruled as accidents, OSHA filed thirteen 711 00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.360 citations related to the incident, finding the company more than 712 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.199 one hundred and seventy two thousand dollars. All right, that actually, 713 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:07.559 I'm gonna read that one again because that actually kind 714 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.400 of upsets me. So two dudes died, OSHA found and 715 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:17.079 filed thirteen citations related to this incident and only find 716 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.840 them one hundred and seventy two thousand dollars. That's not 717 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.920 even like a decent life insurance policy's worth that they 718 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:31.239 find North Grumming one of the biggest weapons manufacturers on Earth. 719 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.199 But okay, sure that's worth two deaths. The citations were 720 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:41.280 deemed serious quote unquote in nature and related to respiratory 721 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.880 protections and permits required for confined spaces. So, being somebody 722 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.199 who has worked in confined spaces before, I will say 723 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.960 working under air sucks. There's no two ways about it. 724 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.199 Same time, like, yeah, certain environments you really need to 725 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.280 go under air for you need to have ventilation, or 726 00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.280 you need to get a confined space permit. You need 727 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:00.639 to get the little snow if we're out there, and 728 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.920 monitor and make sure what the oxygen level is before 729 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.239 you step inside of it. I hate Osha. God, I 730 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.559 hate Osha so much, But I will say that safety 731 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:13.280 requirements and safety policies are quite literally written in blood, 732 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.960 and there's no two ways about that either. But this explosion, 733 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.920 as of this very moment, no injuries, no fatalities. I 734 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.400 don't know the extent of what happened. I don't know 735 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.000 the extent of you know, if Osha is even going 736 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.239 to weigh in on this one, if this was a 737 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.679 freak accident. Was this dealing with some sort of explosive materials, 738 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:37.840 some sort of armament. Nothing is known, but something happened 739 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.360 with Northrop Grumman. I felt like it was our duty 740 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.760 to kind of talk about it. So moving on, here 741 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.719 go ahead, Tony. 742 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.039 Hey, this reminded me of something I heard of from 743 00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.719 about one hundred years ago called the Black Tom explosion. 744 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:55.719 Have you ever heard of it? 745 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.480 I feel like I have, but refresh my memory, sir. 746 00:43:59.159 --> 00:43:59.440 Okay. 747 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.280 During World War One, it was producing loads of ammunition 748 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.159 in New York State near the Statue of Liberty, and 749 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:11.360 a couple of German spies blew up something like hundreds 750 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.519 of thousands of pounds worth of explosives and it actually 751 00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.320 damaged the Statue of Liberty, killed seven people, and a 752 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.639 couple of German spies were caught and one of them 753 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.679 was executed. There's a whole Wikipedia article on it. But 754 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.199 you can understand why somebody would have an incentive to 755 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.719 do that at that time, you know, for the war effort. 756 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.960 Yeah, now, I mean, and that's the thing. It's very 757 00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.280 possible that this was some sort of like nefarious actor. 758 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:41.159 I could absolutely believe that we don't know anything at 759 00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.079 this time, And honestly, even if it was, if they 760 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.119 have some sort of like video evidence that like they 761 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.559 saw a guy sneak on site and like causes, we 762 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:49.960 are never going to hear about that. This is going 763 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.360 to be locked so deep under rat well at least 764 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.559 maybe maybe ten, fifteen, twenty years in the future, we'd 765 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.880 hear about it. But if that was true and something, 766 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.760 and I know I could already hear the people talking 767 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.199 about being that close to the border and how we 768 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.199 know that terrorists are already in this country that made 769 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.519 their way through the sieve that was our southern border 770 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.519 for the last few years. It's very possible this some 771 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.840 sort of nefarious actor made their way to this site 772 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:23.119 and caused this explosion. It, yes, it's possible. I can't 773 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.159 negate that that is a real potential now, But that's 774 00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.000 the thing. If that was the case, the building is 775 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.480 a total loss. But it's not like that was north 776 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.599 of Grumman's only spot, right, and it's not like it 777 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.480 killed a bunch of people. It didn't leave some massive 778 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.480 crater in the ground. I see it being very equally 779 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.679 possible that this was from some sort of a foreign actor. 780 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.199 It could also be something as far as some sort 781 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.480 of espionage goes, I get that it could equally be 782 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.039 just a freak industrial accident. As of this moment, thankfully, 783 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:56.559 nobody has been reported as injured or killed. But as 784 00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.000 the story progresses, I will keep tabs on this and 785 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.360 we will talk about it. Hopefully we won't have to 786 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.280 talk about it. Hopefully that just is what it is, 787 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.440 the freak accent. We never bring it up again, but 788 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.760 if more information comes out about it, I'll bring it 789 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.880 up on the next Cajun Night Live. Let me see 790 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.559 me before we go into the Arctic Circle, and how 791 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.239 and why that's becoming more important. Let me check out 792 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.239 the chat here, Roy says Jacob. I told you I'd 793 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.480 help teach you Hebrew. Yo, I do want to learn it. 794 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.519 I do want to learn it one of these days, 795 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.880 specifically so I can learn a lot of the Old 796 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.880 Testament and read it in the proper language and like 797 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.599 understand the entire meaning of it. It's a part of 798 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.199 my book, dude, one of these days, but not to day. 799 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.599 You know what I mean, No, for sure. But one 800 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:47.400 thing I'll tell you is that there's an interesting in iteration. 801 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.960 But like so with Hebrew, there's the modern Hebrew, and 802 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.559 there's Hebrew. A lot of the words are very close, 803 00:46:54.599 --> 00:47:00.119 if not identical. Some of the grammar is what'stiff And 804 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.840 because I spent a couple of years really kind of 805 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.800 getting into Hebrew. And there's a book that I was 806 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.239 learning from that it was specifically a modern Hebrew book. 807 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.480 But after I finished learning through that book, I was 808 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.480 actually able to understand so much more of the tour 809 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.639 itself because also you go through these seven wonderful verb 810 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.320 verb categories, which is fun, too active, too passive, and 811 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.079 a reflexive. So but if you're if you're a pattern 812 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.119 oriented like you said you were, it's it's actually not 813 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:33.960 so bad. 814 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.599 Oh not bad. One of these days, bro oh, let 815 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.199 me ask you this, Do you know any Aramaic. 816 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.880 Some phrases only because I'm studying the timeloid. But besides that, 817 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.960 like I can't speak it, there are people that I 818 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.159 know that can and they understand Gamara Aramic as far 819 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.639 as spoken, like it's not so it's a that language 820 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.960 as far as it's not actively spoken, but at least 821 00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.119 by thousands of Jews around the world, it is actively 822 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:08.840 taught and. 823 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.519 Learned. 824 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:17.039 Okay, So Aramic, I thought my knowledge base is very 825 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.320 low here. The language they speak in Israel right now, 826 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.599 that's Hebrew correct, Okay, So that's the same language that 827 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:25.880 they've been speaking for like three thousand years or four thousand, 828 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.840 order the cases. Okay, So Aramaic was like a dialect 829 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:33.679 of it. I've asked before. I think how closely related 830 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.679 they are as far as the conversion, is it kind 831 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.760 of like uh, Spanish and Italian. They're both Latin based, 832 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:41.199 and some of the words kind of sound alike, but 833 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.159 they're very very different. Or is it more akin to 834 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.199 like a like a. 835 00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:51.360 It's a different language. It's it's definitely definitely a Semitic 836 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.360 language that they used to speak for a very very 837 00:48:55.360 --> 00:49:00.559 long time that has that has gone died out. But 838 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.760 like it's it's hard like so you can spell the 839 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:12.039 letters out in the Hebrew letters. But as far as 840 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.360 how that was actually spelled back in the day from 841 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.159 other places, I can tell you probably not. 842 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.800 Got you okay, Tony, I saw your hand was raised, brother, 843 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:21.239 what's up? 844 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:22.360 Yeah? 845 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.280 About the language, I learned a bit about this studying 846 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.440 for our episode on Islam. But Aramic was the main 847 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.519 language of the Middle East north of the Arabian Peninsula. 848 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:39.239 Including Syria, Iraq, Jordan until the reign of Abdal Malik, 849 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.239 who reigned in about six ninety eight, which would be 850 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:47.760 about thirty years after Mohammad died. Right, Okay, but you 851 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.880 know that was what brought Arabic from the Arabian Peninsula. 852 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.960 Actually they were speaking it in Jordan too, but it 853 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.000 brought it way up north and it kind of drove 854 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:03.400 Aramaic to extinction, virtual extinction. And Hebrew was also mostly extinct, 855 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:07.039 but they they've been revived, at least Hebrew has. It's 856 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.760 kind of like I guess Gaelic similar story, or even 857 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.280 even Latin. It mostly died out. It's actually still dying 858 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.679 because the Catholic Church was keeping it alive until the sixties, 859 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.159 and now they don't really have an incentive to keep 860 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:25.239 doing that anymore either. 861 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.920 Yeah, it's such as life fuddle a Latin mass. I 862 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.760 want to go to one just to see what that's about. 863 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.760 I feel like the vibe will be completely different. 864 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.800 Oh yeah, I've been to a couple. They're hard to find. 865 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:41.039 The Novus Ordo people have been very effective and trying 866 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:46.920 to squash it, and they loathe it for some reason. Yeah, 867 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.440 I've spent too much time, you know, in different Catholic churches, 868 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:55.719 and especially the boomers, like they really hate Latin in 869 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:57.920 general and they try to squash it. And I've never 870 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.960 understood it. I really liked learning, and when I was 871 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.880 about ten to fifteen years old. 872 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.800 I think it was because they were forced to learn it. 873 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.159 It's like their own version of rebelling against Like the 874 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.719 nuns used to slap their wrists with the rulers and 875 00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.039 shit when they were like, you know, coming of age. 876 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.440 Now they're like, no, actually Latin. 877 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:16.719 Now. 878 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.320 Cut to a couple of decades later and we're like, hey, 879 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.760 Latin's kind of cool, like I want to learn. Yeah, 880 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.920 that might be the boomer version of rebelling. I could 881 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:28.079 see it also real quick, while we're on the version 882 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.559 of the conversation of languages Royce Yiddish. How close is 883 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:34.599 that to Hebrew? Or is it very similar to the 884 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.719 whole Aramic conversation that's like a completely separate language. 885 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.480 So Yiddish is actually a German dialect that is spelled 886 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.320 out in Hebrew. 887 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.159 Yeah, okay, so it's a German language, but they use 888 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.320 Hebrew lettering. 889 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.719 Right, So obviously Germans aren't gonna necessarily speak Yiddish, but 890 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.960 it is a it is a Jewish dialect of German, 891 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:07.360 to where there is something called Ladino, which is basically 892 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.480 a mix of I think Spanish and Hebrew and other phrases. 893 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.679 Yeah, it's mostly German. If I see it written out 894 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.800 and transliterated into Roman characters, I can actually understand a 895 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:26.559 good chunk of it. And when most Jews were living 896 00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.119 in the pale of Settlement, which was east of Germany 897 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:32.559 and west of what is now Russia, most of them 898 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.239 spoke Yiddish. They didn't speak Slavic languages, so they didn't 899 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.719 intermingle much with the Slavs until you know, mid to 900 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.400 late nineteenth century from what I've read, and maybe hard 901 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.039 g can confirm that or deny that. 902 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.719 For me, I don't know enough about it to be honest, 903 00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.960 but that that makes sense to me. I know that 904 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:58.039 for a very long time, Yiddish was the spoke luggage 905 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.480 because it was the when I say profane tongue like 906 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:06.039 leslie means profanity, but just like the normal everyday language, 907 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:11.039 as opposed to Hebrew, which was used specifically for prayer 908 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:13.079 and tara. 909 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.639 And that makes sense all so there's like you could 910 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.039 look at even the Greek dialect or the Latin dialect. 911 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.440 It's like you have the Latin proper, and then you 912 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.960 had the Latin vulgate. Now they don't mean vulgar Latin 913 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.760 as in like it's bad words, but also it's more 914 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:28.880 of the common tongue, So I get what you mean 915 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:30.320 by that, right. 916 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.039 And then also one then other thing that you guys 917 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.199 were to talk about as far as the Latin and churches, 918 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.360 and so I don't know at what point it was 919 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.920 didn't really happen so so long ago when it was there, 920 00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.480 when there was the Reform movement, because so basically this 921 00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.679 entire time you had religious dutism, which is now considered 922 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.079 work box. And then there are people that wanted to 923 00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.000 offshoot from there, and they actually became the Reform movement, 924 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.519 which is like so far to the left. And then 925 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.360 and then a short time later you had these guys like, 926 00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.840 all right, well, you guys are too far right, you 927 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.440 guys are too far left. We're gonna try to go 928 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.440 to the middle road, which is how the conservatives are 929 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:15.880 basically came into me. But so when it comes to 930 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:22.400 all Orthodox synagogues, they are all parading Hebrew, doesn't matter 931 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:26.199 who can or cannot understand the language. Like if you're 932 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.079 coming here, you will either pick up a language or 933 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.599 you will try to follow along. But I think that 934 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:39.280 was enacted to keep the religion as it is, because 935 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:44.719 when you start watering things down, as you know, things 936 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.800 just keep getting less and less and less and less 937 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.519 and less. So I think they made it because when 938 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:53.119 they came to America, and you know, assimilation was such 939 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.119 a big thing. Like my great grandfather who emigrated from Poland, 940 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.559 I know he knew Hebrew, he knew Polish, he probably 941 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.320 knew Russian Yiddish like, but he didn't pass it down 942 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:10.440 because they wanted to assimilate with the US. And also 943 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.519 during that period of time, it wasn't so great to 944 00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:19.280 be Jews. Yeah, but just in order to keep the 945 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.280 religion as it is, they the rabbi has basically decided, look, 946 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.920 we are not going to take Hebrew out of the 947 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.360 synagogues because even one of the things that we're taught 948 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.599 is that one of the things that made the Jews 949 00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:40.519 specific special in Egypt whenever we were and we were slaves, 950 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:46.840 is that we kept our clothing, style, our names, and 951 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.280 our language. So those are the three big things that 952 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.440 we used to keep so having our own specific language 953 00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.400 at least as far as prayer has always been a 954 00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:58.679 huge Oh. 955 00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:00.920 Absolutely, And I mean you could look at that through 956 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:05.840 cultures that have been taken over in conquested throughout history. 957 00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.159 One of the first things that they try to do 958 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:09.880 is make it to where they can only speak the 959 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:13.719 language of their conqueror. Right, if a culture is able 960 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:17.519 to keep their language, they're able to maintain their culture, 961 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.840 or at least it stems from there. And I think 962 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.760 even a raven You've talked about this with me a 963 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:28.519 few times. How on an anthropological standpoint, religion and language 964 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:31.199 are kind of hand in hand as far as what 965 00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.920 gives a civilization their cultural identity. Now, I know there's 966 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.199 nuances to that, tons of it based off of where 967 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.519 they live on the earth and all these things, but 968 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.840 you can't separate a culture from their language necessarily unless 969 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:45.599 you're trying to dissolve the entire culture. 970 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:46.840 Yeah. 971 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:53.280 They What's interesting about language is that every culture and 972 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:58.920 even every village tribe has a slight variation difference in 973 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:03.199 dialect from each each other, just like in Louisiana, like 974 00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:06.400 if you're from across the river, you can tell without 975 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:10.519 a doubt the different sections where people are from by 976 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.119 how they speak, and that goes from for religion too. 977 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.400 It seems like the religious, depending on which group they 978 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:24.119 have specific words that gets translated, but they also end 979 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:28.000 up having slang terms depending on which section they're in 980 00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:31.119 and which little cultural group that they vibe with. 981 00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:35.320 Anthropologists that study language, they. 982 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.760 Talk a lot about like how language is passed, Like 983 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.800 language is one of the biggest things that anthropologists study 984 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.559 is because it has evolved and changed so much every 985 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:48.000 hundred years. 986 00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:49.039 It's it's challenging. 987 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.920 Like you guys are talking about aramic, but no one 988 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.360 here alive knows what it actually sounded like originally, and 989 00:57:55.440 --> 00:58:00.000 so what everyone's reading it or speaking it, it has 990 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.480 evolved and changed to what it is what people perceive 991 00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:08.000 it to be originally. There is no actual origination because 992 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.679 we didn't have audio recordings, so it's all kind of 993 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.559 a guessing game of like this is what I think 994 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.079 this would sound like, and then it kind. 995 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.760 Of just changes. 996 00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:22.159 Each person here's a different sound, and a lot of 997 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:26.079 times they tweak it just to their own, so I 998 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:26.760 would sound. 999 00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.039 I would agree with you on ninety nine percent of that, 1000 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.880 And like, for instance, the ancient Egyptian language. We think 1001 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.840 we know what it sounds like because of the Egyptian 1002 00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:40.920 coptics and like the way that they transcribe the language, 1003 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.880 but we don't actually know like the language that Tut 1004 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:47.159 was speaking like, we don't exactly know what that sounds like. 1005 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:51.920 We can guesstimate, right, but through certain writings we can 1006 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.760 at least see how the language like traversed time and 1007 00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.400 changed over time, but as far as how it actually 1008 00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.719 sounded and speaking it with the proper accents and the 1009 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.599 proper inflections and stuff, one hundred percent agreed. The only 1010 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:10.119 that I know of anyway, and there may very possibly 1011 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:13.280 be a few outliers on this one. The only language 1012 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.000 that I can think of that might stand out as 1013 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.800 being truly passed down orally that long would be Hebrew, 1014 00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.960 because they've been able to keep it through everything that 1015 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:26.639 they went through for religious reasons, and it was passed 1016 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.039 down orally person to person a person. The only other 1017 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:33.760 ones that I could think that might possibly get away 1018 00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.599 with that kind of statement would be like uncontacted tribes 1019 00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:38.559 in the Amazon or something like that, But then they're 1020 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:40.679 also out of the conversation because we don't actually know 1021 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.159 their language anyway, But yeah, one hundred percent. And I 1022 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.920 also go ahead, Royce. 1023 00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.760 Oh, I'm gonna say, is as far as the error 1024 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:54.320 make we've been study We've had the Babylonian kamud literally 1025 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.159 for the past two thousand years at least, probably it 1026 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:03.360 started to be compiled about seventy AD. So it's been 1027 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:07.920 taught and verbal, like what the way you study gamara 1028 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:14.320 is verbally like there's actually kind of a canter and 1029 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.639 melody that you are supposed to learn to. So like 1030 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.079 these words have been spoken out loud in a certain 1031 01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:25.440 melody for a thousand years, So how is it how 1032 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.760 it originally sounded? I would say there is a ninety 1033 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:35.280 nine percent chance. So it also just a phrase I 1034 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:37.880 know in Ara makers like what's the like the nav 1035 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.400 camina or the havamina? So enough, Gamena is like what's 1036 01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:47.400 the practical application of something? As opposed to manischma, which 1037 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.960 is Hebrew for like what's up? So just the difference 1038 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.519 in how languages are. 1039 01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.800 Uh said, Yeah, and that's what I was saying. There's 1040 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:02.559 there's only a few culture outliers that the language had 1041 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:04.960 to be passed down orally. And if it has been 1042 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.400 passed down orally then like we can at least assert 1043 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.280 that it was passed down to the traditional and correct 1044 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:18.599 translation and correct pronunciation. But still there's outliers, you know, 1045 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.719 culture to culture, Like I don't know for a fact 1046 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:27.360 that the using Hebrew as an example, I don't know 1047 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.159 for a fact that the Polish dudes in a synagogue 1048 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.400 are speaking it in the exact perfect way that the 1049 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.360 dudes in Jerusalem are that the dudes in New York 1050 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.760 City are, Like I can, I can assume this, but 1051 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.599 I'm sure that there is some sort of a difference 1052 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:45.800 in some way shape or as far as like. 1053 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:52.079 Sure, sure, and also there's a difference between like someone 1054 01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:56.639 who speaks like with an Ashkenazi sure pronunciation or a 1055 01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:02.599 spartic so like the difference would be like I mean, 1056 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:08.360 just in general like uh, sheer shallon to tova, but 1057 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.239 it's definitely gonna sound different, like the there's a letter 1058 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.880 called soft are tough, and depending on whether or not 1059 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.519 there is a dot in the center will actually determine 1060 01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.880 what it is as far as the most however, somebody 1061 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.320 who is as far as they you know, they don't 1062 01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.480 do anything either way, but just so just to know 1063 01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:36.840 the difference between how Hebrew sounds as opposed to Aramaic. 1064 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.199 So there's a phrase, don't ask for me to translate it, 1065 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.000 I just know how to how to speak it that 1066 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:48.119 he's So that's an example of Aramaic as opposed to 1067 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:54.599 zahor about lid show so difference. So there's a clear 1068 01:02:54.639 --> 01:03:00.559 difference in how for for sure, sometimes it's like such 1069 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.800 a crazy tongue twister. 1070 01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:08.000 No doubt, Raven, I saw your hand raise Go ahead, Oh, 1071 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:08.440 I was. 1072 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.880 Just gonna comment that, Like, I'm not saying that there 1073 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:17.920 isn't specific groups that have had a verbal passed down. 1074 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.039 The thing about it is is that you. 1075 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.519 Have to that how just like how you were speaking it, Royce, 1076 01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:29.719 you were influenced the way that you've learned and you've 1077 01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:35.920 listened and spoken regular words in that dialect about being 1078 01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.199 just an American, you will have a nuance that is 1079 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.519 not the same as somebody else that has spoken it 1080 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.199 in a different place, and so on and so forth, 1081 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.719 and so for thousands of years, yes, the language has 1082 01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:53.119 been pronunciated and passed down, but every single person has 1083 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:56.679 an environmental and a social impact and a cultural impact 1084 01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.800 on how they perceive and listen and speak. 1085 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:03.239 All languages, and so to say. 1086 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.000 It is one hundred percent or ninety nine percent correct 1087 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.079 to true to form from a thousand years ago, I'm 1088 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:14.400 going to disagree, because that is it's there is, it's 1089 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.960 a multifaceted thing to be a human. And so in 1090 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:22.039 every culture, sure you will continuously have changes, even if 1091 01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:25.760 there's slight nuances over time they will change. 1092 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.320 A word, Yeah, the telephone, but like that two hundred years, 1093 01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.920 let alone a thousand years, what does it actually sound like. 1094 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.320 I see what you mean for sure, for sure. 1095 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:36.320 And then that was coming from someone who doesn't who 1096 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:42.320 isn't an anthropologist, So I for sure bat on my head, 1097 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.440 and I have no problem to be corrected. So thank 1098 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:44.960 you very much. 1099 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.840 And also, as we're talking about languages, so I just 1100 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.719 learned this one today. Actually, so Native American tribes, native 1101 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:57.159 American languages, like the linguistic families thereof haven't been studied 1102 01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:00.320 improper to the level that they should have been for 1103 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:03.480 the past few hundred years. Four reasons. Not saying that's 1104 01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.119 a good thing, either of these reasons, but there's reasons, right, 1105 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:10.440 So just found out that, all right, So when we 1106 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:15.039 talk about New York area, the Iroquois nation, then you 1107 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.000 go just below that and you're talking about like the 1108 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:22.079 Cherokee linguistic family. Below that the uh I think it 1109 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:26.679 might be Muskogee language nation, and then the Seminole nation. Okay, 1110 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:35.199 these four linguistic groups all come from completely unrelated families, right, 1111 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.119 So to give everybody a context of how crazy that is, 1112 01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:46.119 this would be Spain, Italy, Greece, and Portugal all speaking 1113 01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.360 languages that come from completely different linguistic families. Like we 1114 01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.280 think of that and we hear, all, yeah, they all 1115 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:55.800 have their different languages, but they're all basically Romance languages 1116 01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:58.920 with the exception of Greek. I get that. But to 1117 01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.199 say that all of the these Native American tribes who 1118 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.760 were neighboring to each other couldn't understand each other. And 1119 01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:08.000 this is just per the current study goes, because they 1120 01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.880 came from completely separate areas of the world, and then 1121 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.400 out of nowhere you had this little section in Louisiana 1122 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:21.000 that had no connection to anything other than just themselves linguistically, 1123 01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.800 and they were like isolated that in that language. It 1124 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.119 is crazy to watch how languages traverse and to see 1125 01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.800 the linguistic families and how that goes into different cultures. 1126 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.840 And I mean, I'm happy that the Native American talking 1127 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:38.599 point is getting more credibility these days and getting looked 1128 01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.960 at for the for the historical precedents that they are. 1129 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.079 But see, that's another one too. We know this now 1130 01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:48.440 based off of like written sources, and we could kind 1131 01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:50.960 of tell based off of some linguistic things, but how 1132 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.280 many of those languages were snuffed out with the trail 1133 01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.159 of tears, right, and with the westward expansion and all 1134 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:02.320 these things. It's there's assumptions that could be made to 1135 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:07.400 say that the true Choctaw language and the true Navajo 1136 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.639 language like the one the wind talkers were using, right, 1137 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:13.360 that we can assume that that is the true language 1138 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.239 that was being spoken by these tribes a thousand years ago. 1139 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.159 But the same thing happens, right, game of telephone and 1140 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:24.639 the westward expansion and the trying to snuff out all 1141 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:28.239 cultural relevance of each of these tribes. How can we 1142 01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:31.000 really know that for sure? But again, I'm happy that 1143 01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:34.519 experts and historians and anthropologists are looking at it for 1144 01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:35.840 what it is these days. 1145 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.280 Tony, go ahead, Yeah, have you ever heard of the 1146 01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:44.559 Lone Woman of San Nicolas or have you ever had 1147 01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:47.679 to read Island the Blue Dolphin in elementary school. 1148 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:48.960 I don't know. 1149 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.519 This is a real woman who was stranded on an 1150 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:54.719 island off the coast of la for like twenty years, 1151 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.480 and when they finally found her in about eighteen seventy, 1152 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:02.760 she spoke a language that nobody could understand, not even 1153 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.360 any of the other Native Americans or people who spoke 1154 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:08.440 any native languages in that area. And when they brought 1155 01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.800 her to the mainland, she died after about three weeks 1156 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:14.159 because her immune system wasn't prepared to be around other people. 1157 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.680 But yeah, she must. She spoke some language, and something 1158 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:20.800 happened to all her people, like all her people left 1159 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:22.920 and she was the only only one left. And she 1160 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.239 still remembered the language and could speak it, but nobody 1161 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.039 else could understand it because the diversity of the native 1162 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:32.359 languages was just so much. And I've seen this guy 1163 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.640 on YouTube called Chiama. He tries to learn languages just 1164 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:39.199 for fun, and he tried to learn Navajo and he 1165 01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:43.239 said that was the most complicated because the cases for 1166 01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:46.079 all the nouns and the verbs just overlap way more 1167 01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.960 than anything. He said, it's like a Rubik's cube in 1168 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:50.079 terms of grammar. 1169 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.479 So yeah, that's the kind of heavier set, white guy 1170 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.039 that goes to all these different countries and like blows 1171 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:57.640 people's minds when he's able to speak it. 1172 01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:01.720 Yeah, he's that guy prop to like one hundred languages 1173 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.159 by now. But yeah, that would also explain why those 1174 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.840 Navajo they were code talkers. And World War Two, and 1175 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:08.239 I think world War one as well. 1176 01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.239 I'm not sure I know for sure world War two. 1177 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.560 I don't know about World War One, but yeah, they 1178 01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:18.159 knew for sure that there's no Japanese or German expert 1179 01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:20.199 of anything that's going to be able to decipher the 1180 01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:24.119 novel language like at all. So I thought that was 1181 01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.439 brilliant as far as the Americans go at that time. 1182 01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:29.039 Oh and speaking of dead languages, and now we're talking 1183 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.000 about these things. So I only know of one other 1184 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:35.159 situation kind of similar to this. So there's two guys 1185 01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:40.600 on Earth that speak this dialect of like it's not Spanish. 1186 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:43.079 Some are saying that it's like a dialect of the 1187 01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:46.920 traditional Aztec language. There's only two guys that still speak 1188 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.479 it to this day, and they refuse to speak to 1189 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.199 each other because of some long standing blood feud. They're 1190 01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.800 both in their eighties, and once they died, the language 1191 01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.439 dies with them. And I thought that was so crazy, 1192 01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:00.800 Like y'all could communicate in a langua that no one 1193 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:02.960 else knows. But y'all don't want to talk to each 1194 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:07.399 other because there's beef. That's the pettiness of humanity, honestly. 1195 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:11.159 But yeah, fascinating stuff, y'all. Fascinating stuff. All right. So 1196 01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:16.199 now we've gone into this whole conversation about languages and stuff, 1197 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:19.920 Let's talk about the Arctic. Because I didn't realize that 1198 01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:24.479 the Arctic was such a count intended hotbed of conversation. 1199 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:26.239 But wait a minute, Oh, this is about the dead 1200 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.159 women in New England. My bad. Apparently the Arctic is 1201 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:34.840 becoming like a hot topic, especially in the twenty first century, right, 1202 01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:37.199 so let's talk about it here. The Arctic is one 1203 01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:40.319 of the coldest and least populated regions on Earth. Most 1204 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:42.439 much of it is covered by ice, but in recent 1205 01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:44.560 years it has become one of the most important sites 1206 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:49.039 of geopolitical tension and a key focus of American policy. Yes, 1207 01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.239 we are going to talk about the Greenland situation. Yes, 1208 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.640 Russia's gonna get brought up here. I get it, I 1209 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.520 get it. Hold your allegiances to whatever you want. But 1210 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.600 the North Pole hasn't been a real situation to be 1211 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.399 discussed at all in quite some time, and now it 1212 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.000 is really becoming that all right. So despite its inhospility, 1213 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.840 in hospitality, people can't live there. Land north of the 1214 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.960 Arctic Circle has long been inhabited by indigenous people like 1215 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.640 the Inuit sami Yukagar and today includes territories belonging to 1216 01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:26.199 the eight countries Canada, Russia, Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, 1217 01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.039 and the United States. In nineteen ninety six, these countries 1218 01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:32.199 formed the Arctic Council, a forum that includes all eight 1219 01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:35.840 countries as member states, along with representatives from indigenous groups. 1220 01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.520 But while the Arctic was once envisioned as a neutral 1221 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:42.239 zone where research and conservation could promote deeper international cooperation, 1222 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.920 multiple developments since then have turned into a site of competition. 1223 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.239 The number one issue facing in the Arctic is climate change. Yes, 1224 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:54.079 here we go with that. Since the nineteen nineties, the 1225 01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:58.199 Arctic Sea has declined by seven point six trillion metric tons, 1226 01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.520 with the rate of loss increasing fifty seven percent. Besides 1227 01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:04.399 contributing to rising sea levels, the loss of ice also 1228 01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:08.159 reduces global solar reflection. This creates feedback loop as the 1229 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.399 darker ocean water absorbs more heat, causing more ice to melt, 1230 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:16.039 adversely affecting global weather patterns. The meltic Arctic ice. Melting 1231 01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.800 Arctic ice also directly affects local wildlife, with polar bear 1232 01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:22.319 populations projected to decline by two thirds in the next 1233 01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:25.039 quarter century as they lose their hunting grounds. Okay, I'm 1234 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:27.840 personally not upset about that. They're the only animal on 1235 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:31.079 Earth that actually goes out of their way to hunt 1236 01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:34.079 human beings as a food source. So, like, you know, 1237 01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.640 I don't care what Coca Cola tells you. Polar bears 1238 01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:38.960 are not cute, and like they're the only they are 1239 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.479 probably the most dangerous predator to human life. But neither 1240 01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:45.960 here nor there, but where some sea environmental disaster other 1241 01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:49.439 sea opportunity. The melting ice is making Arctic trade routes 1242 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.439 more navigable, providing shorter distances for transoceanic shipping and current 1243 01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:58.760 lanes using the Suez and Panama Canals. Furthermore, increased navigability 1244 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:03.079 is expanding potent for exploration and extraction of natural resources. 1245 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:07.119 The Arctic region is estimated to hold over twenty percent 1246 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:10.000 of the world's remaining fossil fuel reserves, with over four 1247 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:13.720 hundred oil and gas fields already discovered. Both the seabed 1248 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.560 and offshore areas also hold vast quantities of minerals, ranging 1249 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.960 from staple commodities like iron, gold, nickel, and zinc to 1250 01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:25.920 rare earth metals such as neodymium and dysporesium, which are 1251 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:32.199 used in electronics, batteries and technology. Even traditional sub subsistence 1252 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:36.079 activity may be greatly altered and expanded as global warming 1253 01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:39.079 leads fish stocks to migrate north and more coastal land 1254 01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:42.199 becomes available for agriculture. Okay, so aside from the global 1255 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.279 warming conversation, although that would be why it's more navigable 1256 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:48.520 now than it's ever been. That's kind of the biggie here, 1257 01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.880 right It holds allegedly over twenty percent of the remaining 1258 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:55.720 fossil fuels on Earth, and it has rare earths, and 1259 01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.279 as of right now, China is making a massive push 1260 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:00.800 for all the rare earths because they process them in 1261 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.439 plants that produce a lot of toxins that we don't 1262 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.079 like to produce in America. China really doesn't have like 1263 01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.960 an Osha to speak of. So the fact that we 1264 01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:12.520 have rare or at least access to rare earths that 1265 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:15.159 don't have to go through China, that's kind of a 1266 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:19.119 biggie here, right. Yet, economic opportunities in the Arctic are 1267 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:22.840 emerging at a time of increased geopolitical tensions, as countries 1268 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:27.239 scrambled to secure resources, state territorial claims, and develop facilities. 1269 01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.680 With fifty three percent of the Arctic coastline under its control, 1270 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.199 Russia has the largest presence in the region in terms 1271 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:38.399 of civil ports like Murmansk and Argengelsk YEP, as well 1272 01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:41.520 as multiple airfields and military bases along its northern border. 1273 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.000 More recently, Russia has moved to expand its claims in 1274 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.880 the Arctic Sea bed, at the same time that the 1275 01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.439 invasion of Ukraine in twenty twenty two has led to 1276 01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.159 other members of the Arctic Council to suspend cooperation with Moscow. 1277 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.840 I could believe that while land jurisdiction in the Arctic 1278 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.720 is largely settled aside from a few disputes, maritime claims 1279 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:05.000 are much more complex. Control over Arctic waters is generally 1280 01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:07.600 governed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of 1281 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:10.960 the Sea, which defines multiple types of territorial waters where 1282 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.359 a nation may have the right to restrict activity of 1283 01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:17.199 foreign vessels. The range from internal waters that are considered 1284 01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:21.560 part of the nation's sovereign territory to exclusive economic zones 1285 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:25.039 where foreign ships may travel freely but cannot extract resources. 1286 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:28.039 Although the United States played a formative role in the 1287 01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:31.760 negotiating the treaty and abides by most of its provisions, 1288 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:33.920 it remains one of the few countries that has not 1289 01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:38.760 formally acceded to it because of concerns about limitations in 1290 01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:46.039 places on seabed mining. Even among the UN's Group signatories. However, 1291 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:51.439 boundaries definitions can vary. Boundary definitions excuse me. While Canada 1292 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.439 considers part of the Northwest Passage to lie within its 1293 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.239 territorial waters, for example, most other nations, including the United States, 1294 01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:01.000 consider it to be an international rate where foreign ships 1295 01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:04.359 may transit. Similarly, Russia has claimed part of the Northeast 1296 01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:08.319 Passage along its northern coastline as internal waters, moving to 1297 01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:12.560 restrict right of passage in areas where it was previously allowed. 1298 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.680 Given these disputes, the Transpolar Sea route through the Center 1299 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:20.079 of the Arctic Ocean, which lies fully in internal waters. 1300 01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:23.520 International waters rather, will become more attractive as polar ice 1301 01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.359 continues to thaw. Okay, so all that it says here, 1302 01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.800 Now we're going to go into China here. The increasing 1303 01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.199 importance of the Arctic has attracted the attention of other 1304 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.600 powers without Arctic territory. Several of these states have been 1305 01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:39.880 omitted as observers in the Arctic Council, including Germany, the 1306 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.920 United Kingdom, Japan, and South Korea. China, which is also 1307 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:48.199 an observer, has unilaterally declared itself a near Arctic state. 1308 01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.760 In what realm is China a near Arctic state? But 1309 01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:57.239 that's how she sees things and draws maps, and has 1310 01:16:57.279 --> 01:17:00.479 expanded both research and commercial activity in the regent by 1311 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:04.199 partnering with Russia, as well as investing in infrastructure in Norway, 1312 01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:07.000 Iceland and Greenland. I'm sure they found a way to 1313 01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:11.119 rope that into the Belton Road initiative. Anyway, China's increased 1314 01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:15.319 present in the Arctic along Russia. Alongside russia more aggressive 1315 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.359 posture has been among the reason side of for the 1316 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:22.359 US President Donald Trump's insistence on nnexing or buying Greenland, 1317 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.800 a territory of NATO allied to Denmark. While Greenland already 1318 01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:30.720 contains a US military base on its northwest coast, the 1319 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:34.159 discussion is likely to result in further militarization of the 1320 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:38.000 territory even under Denmark. Satellites are also expected to play 1321 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.119 a major role in exerting control within the Arctic, given 1322 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:43.880 the importance of the observation and monitoring in remote areas 1323 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.279 of poor communication and infrastructure. So now as we're talking 1324 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.720 about this the Arctic Circle, it's just been an ice 1325 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.359 block for quite a while here, right, and now all 1326 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.680 these countries that are now not so allied with each 1327 01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:01.680 other as of the past few years are going to 1328 01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.520 start vuying for the resources in the Arctic Circle. And 1329 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:07.000 of course who's got the most coastline will have a 1330 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:10.319 say in what goes down there. I get this. For 1331 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.680 China to start weighing in on the Arctic Circle conversation, 1332 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:23.199 that's a bit of a concern for me personally. Go ahead, Raven, So. 1333 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:27.159 I remember this hearing about this before. So Norway's actually 1334 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:32.000 been like Russia's been already digging in the Arctics like 1335 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:37.079 the last decade or two, But Norway actually has been stopped. 1336 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:42.640 In twenty sixteen, they were granted a number of licenses 1337 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.399 to explore the oil and gas of the Arctics in 1338 01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:47.920 like inside the Arctic Circle. 1339 01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:49.159 And then in twenty. 1340 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:54.560 Twenty one, six Norwegians and environmental groups got together and 1341 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.079 pretty much for like, this is an absolute disaster. 1342 01:18:57.680 --> 01:18:58.760 And so what they. 1343 01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:02.119 Did is is they I did articles it's Article two 1344 01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:05.319 and article eight. It's human rights pretty much in the 1345 01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:09.279 right to life, saying that if the if Norway continues 1346 01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:12.439 to dig and try to drill in the Arctic, that 1347 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:16.840 it's going to it's going to cause like mass chaos 1348 01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:20.840 pretty much for humans, and it's going to increase climate 1349 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:21.800 change and stuff. 1350 01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:24.720 And then with like who actually owns the Arctic? 1351 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:28.199 They the US is letting companies drill in Alaska again, 1352 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.720 but they actually everybody that owns a piece of the 1353 01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.880 Arctic owns two hundred nautical miles of it. And right 1354 01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:37.359 now they're kind of like debating about who owns what. 1355 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.239 And they have like a territory map of like who 1356 01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:43.239 actually is allowed to dig where, and Russia is nowhere 1357 01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.279 on that map right now, I'm not Russia, excuse me, China, 1358 01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:49.640 like Denmark, Russia Canada and the US and Norway are 1359 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.960 mostly the ones that are allowed to do stuff there. 1360 01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:57.880 Yeah, but China being like homeboys with Russia to the 1361 01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.520 furthest extent that they're allowed to be anyway, I could 1362 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.880 understand why they are gonna try to not push their 1363 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:07.279 way in by any means, but they're gonna get even 1364 01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.920 closer if it means more of a monopoly on the 1365 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.159 rare earths, for sure. And yeah, you're right, China's nowhere 1366 01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.439 even near the conversation of two hundred odd miles of 1367 01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:20.760 their claimed sea in the Arctic Circle. That blows my 1368 01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:23.760 mind that g has the balls to actually make such 1369 01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:27.920 a claim that China is a near Arctic country, like 1370 01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:32.600 in what map are you looking at? Bro? But okay, sure, totally. 1371 01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:35.279 And I understand that some people are gonna say, well, 1372 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:38.000 America doesn't have that either, but we do because of 1373 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.000 Alaska and also because we run the world's seas, so 1374 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:45.880 that's kind of how America flexes. So good things there. 1375 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:48.520 But as we are talking about the Russia and the 1376 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:52.800 China situation, I found a little YouTube short and I 1377 01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.720 do know that this is going to ruffle a few feathers, Tony. 1378 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:57.640 I do want you to weigh in on this one. Actually, 1379 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:02.439 so this short here was brought up by former Russian 1380 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:07.439 president of what certain people, former Russian president anyway and 1381 01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:11.760 others are saying Ukraine might look like if and when 1382 01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:17.840 Ukraine loses this war. And I don't know if he's 1383 01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:20.319 not speaking on behalf of Putin. I know that he's 1384 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:22.920 not speaking on behalf of the Russian military. Fully understand 1385 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:27.119 that too. But if we were talking about Russia only 1386 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:31.199 invading just the easternmost sections, right, the sections that wanted 1387 01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:34.439 to be Russian allegedly and all these things, this map 1388 01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:36.520 kind of paints a different picture. Let me know what 1389 01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:37.600 you think about this one. 1390 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.319 If Ukraine were to lose the current war against Russia, 1391 01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:45.119 what might happen well. Former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev recently 1392 01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:48.239 shared a map outlining what he believes the future borders 1393 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.039 of the region will look like. Medvedev's map shows Russia 1394 01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:55.920 controlling all of eastern Ukraine, including the economically important don 1395 01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:59.960 Bas region. What's more, Russia would control all territory east 1396 01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:05.319 of the Nipa River, along with southern Ukraine's Black Sea coast. Interestingly, 1397 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:08.119 Poland would be in control of much of western Ukraine, 1398 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:12.439 including the country's sixth largest city, Leviv. Hungary would get 1399 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:17.199 this Zakharpatiya ablast, while Romania would receive Chernivzi and Vinizia. 1400 01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.640 Ukraine itself, meanwhile, would become a much smaller, landlocked country 1401 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:23.760 based around the capital city of Kiev. 1402 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:28.840 This okay, so Tony, please weigh in on this. Is 1403 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:32.479 there any validity to the Ukrainian map looking like this 1404 01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:35.000 in the next few years. 1405 01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:40.319 Personally, I think there is not, and I think Midvidyev 1406 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:43.119 he is way more aggressive than he used to be, 1407 01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:45.760 and he's been like this for the last few years. 1408 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:49.159 I think he felt really burned by Hillary Clinton over 1409 01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:51.880 Libya in twenty eleven, back when he was the president 1410 01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:55.159 at that time. I have not seen any Russian mapss 1411 01:22:55.199 --> 01:23:00.960 going this far. But this also illustrates how much of 1412 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:07.479 Hungarian and Romanian minority there are. The Polish area used 1413 01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:09.720 to be Poland way back a long time ago, but 1414 01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:13.119 the Ukrainians took it over and there aren't too many 1415 01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:16.600 Poles left there. Although the main Catholic bishop in western 1416 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:22.479 Ukraine is Polish and that the tiny little Ukrainian spot. 1417 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.199 I think that's where Kiev is or slightly west of it. 1418 01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:27.239 But yeah, I don't think Russia will get this much. 1419 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.359 There's still enough hostility to Russia in the central part 1420 01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:36.039 of the country in my opinion that Russia is gonna 1421 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:38.319 mostly just settle for what they got now. If they 1422 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:42.199 wanted any other territory, it would probably be Kharkov and Odessa. 1423 01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:46.399 Odessa's in the southwest and Kharkoff is kind of in 1424 01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:50.000 the more northern east part. But I don't think they'll 1425 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.479 get either of those. Personally, I think that the line 1426 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.000 where it is right now is where it's gonna stay. 1427 01:23:55.279 --> 01:24:01.560 Okay, and I don't disagree. I would see possibly Transnistria 1428 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.199 like pledging allegiance to Russia and being like roped into 1429 01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:06.880 that one as well, and maybe like some sort of 1430 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:11.560 a connective land bridge between the two areas that are 1431 01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.000 currently occupied in Transnistria. I could see a world with 1432 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:18.199 that happens. Yeah. When I saw this map, I was like, oh, 1433 01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:20.760 I have to talk about it on the Live tonight 1434 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:25.640 because I Hungary. I didn't see them making an appearance 1435 01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:28.840 into this Romania, didn't see them taking a section of 1436 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:32.199 this map. Poland. I didn't even know that that area had, 1437 01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.359 Like you said, I didn't know that there was any Poles, 1438 01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:38.720 or at least a majority of Poles still living in 1439 01:24:38.760 --> 01:24:42.199 Western Ukraine. I mean, yeah, there's pockets of them for sure, 1440 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:46.640 but nothing to this scale. And then yeah, I, like 1441 01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:51.199 you said, I don't know how aggressive the former Russian 1442 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:54.880 president is or is this kind of the ramblings of 1443 01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:57.520 an old guy who's just kind of out of his box, 1444 01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.520 or was there any kind of real validity to this. 1445 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.520 I definitely knew you would have more of a knowledge 1446 01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:03.600 based on this one than I would. 1447 01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:06.199 Yeah, well, I'm interested. I want to look up whether 1448 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:09.880 that's what said, But I do know for sure Hungarian 1449 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.880 and Romanian are spoken in these parts of Ukraine. Polish 1450 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.119 is not anymore. But if you look up the boundaries 1451 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.239 of the Second Polish Republic, it included all of that area. 1452 01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:21.439 There aren't too many Poles left. There was a lot 1453 01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:23.960 of ethnic cleansing that went on during World War Two 1454 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.439 in both directions, frankly, but the Ukrainians really won. Their 1455 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:32.880 Ukrainian nationalists were more aligned with the Germans for sure. Yeah, 1456 01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:37.600 and that's part of their history that they're simultaneously proud 1457 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:42.279 and ashamed of. And the Russians. They used that for 1458 01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.159 propaganda for sure, the fact that there were so many 1459 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:51.000 Ukrainian nationalists on the German side, that's whyfying Ukraine. He's 1460 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:52.199 not completely wrong. 1461 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.520 I understand the talking point for the propaganda aspect, but 1462 01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.039 also like Zelenski's a Jew, so like talking about the 1463 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.199 denotification of a country that's currently led by a Jewish 1464 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:06.239 guys like hmm, all right. 1465 01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:11.600 Well, well there's plenty of photo evidence of the social 1466 01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:17.159 acceptability of Nazi regalia in western Ukraine up until very 1467 01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:21.920 recent years, and there's telegram channels about it. One's called 1468 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.760 highly Ukraine nineteen fifty nine. Another one's called Bandy after 1469 01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:30.039 step On Bondera. Maybe this is a slight tangent, but 1470 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:34.000 Austria used to own a big chunk of this western 1471 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:37.239 part of Ukraine. It used to be called Galicia, and 1472 01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:42.880 some of my wife's ancestry is from there, And well 1473 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.239 there was a lot of transition in World War One 1474 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:47.960 and World War Two and basically the Germans lost a lot. 1475 01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:52.840 So yeah, my wife's ancestry is part German from that area, 1476 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:55.840 but it then it became Polish, and then it became Ukrainian, 1477 01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:57.039 and that's where we are today. 1478 01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.960 Yeah, Okay, So I mean, all right, so at least 1479 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:02.920 you are of the belief that this map is a 1480 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:07.680 bit extra presumptuous ondelic part. 1481 01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:12.359 Yeah, I think that's unrealistic. Okay, yeah, yeah, I want 1482 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:13.920 to look it up and confirm too. 1483 01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:17.199 Yeah, please do, because when I saw this, I'm like, bro, 1484 01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:19.960 there's no way not even saying about how much of 1485 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:23.039 that territory Russia is going to claim, sectioning off Western 1486 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:28.760 Ukraine into four different principalities, Like Poland is not on 1487 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:32.359 an expansionist kick right now, neither is Romania, neither is Hungary. 1488 01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:36.359 So it's like, why was that even being brought up 1489 01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:38.520 on the map that your guy was talking about. 1490 01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:43.199 But you know, well, I am seeing similar maps to this. 1491 01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.039 But I would chime in that Poland actually does have 1492 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.359 some expansionist streak in it. So I have seen the 1493 01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:55.159 Polish proposed annexation going back all the way to twenty 1494 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.000 twenty two. On Polish television, Poland was talking about how 1495 01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:02.000 the might act look like this at least with regards 1496 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.359 to Poland. Someday some of them are thinking about taking 1497 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:11.079 that territory back, and they're talking about how the people 1498 01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.319 of Levov Poland calls it Levov. That's the biggest city there. 1499 01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.880 Russian calls it Levov, Ukrainian language calls it Lviv. 1500 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:21.159 Yeah, and. 1501 01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:25.479 They actually teach Polish as a second language at most 1502 01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:28.640 of the schools there, so there is some memory in 1503 01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:30.640 the area that they used to be Polish. And the 1504 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.159 languages are close enough that whenever I go to Ukrainian 1505 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:36.640 websites and they want to post something in Polish, they 1506 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:39.680 won't even bother translating it. It's a different alphabet, but 1507 01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:44.199 they're almost mutually intelligible. That's kind of how close they are. 1508 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:49.520 Okay, Well, as things continue to progress with the war 1509 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:52.359 in Ukraine, we are going to definitely keep all of 1510 01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:55.640 the people listening in on the loop here and we 1511 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.680 will see if this map does play out this way. 1512 01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.520 That is wild to me that they could get sectioned 1513 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:03.439 off into this many pieces, but I guess the future 1514 01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:08.720 is very, very unknown. But speaking of unknown futures, let's 1515 01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:11.760 talk about what's going on with China right now? Now, 1516 01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.560 all right. Last week we talked a little bit about 1517 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.399 the tariff situation, and I did give the preface before 1518 01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:19.920 I even spoke on it. I am not an economist. 1519 01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:22.760 I don't know everything there is to know about tariffs 1520 01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:26.760 and money and things and stuff. Yes, Trump did the 1521 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.560 example that I gave as far as how the US 1522 01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:35.239 Treasury will get money for basically an extortion fee, a 1523 01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:38.319 street tax, whatever you want to call it, for any 1524 01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.039 country to sell things on American soil. Right, Yes, this 1525 01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:45.960 is very accurate. And as you learned about on the 1526 01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:49.640 Cult of Conspiracy Live Tuesday night last night, actually we 1527 01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:54.039 heard from a Chinese high school dropout who is probably 1528 01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.199 in a hard prison or hard labor jail as we speak, 1529 01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:00.760 for making that post on social media about how America's 1530 01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:03.920 spending power is three or is a third of the 1531 01:30:04.079 --> 01:30:09.880 entire world's spending power. And that's a big deal. So basically, China, Gie, 1532 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.680 I should say, not just China. Jijaping and Trump had 1533 01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:15.920 been in this stare down contest, right, and this has 1534 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:19.800 been a big thing. Uh, China raise the tariffs. Trump 1535 01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:22.960 raised the tariffs. China raised it more. Trump raised it 1536 01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:26.680 to one hundred and forty five percent. Basically, he doubled 1537 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:29.920 down and just raised it to two hundred and forty 1538 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:36.960 five percent. Today, whenever this made headlines, Jijiping finally decided, 1539 01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:40.199 all right, bro, let's let's have a conversation, but we 1540 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.800 won't respect that. That's his big thing. Now. He's willing 1541 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:47.079 to come to the negotiation tables, but he wants America 1542 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:52.239 media to stop talking shit on China and Jijuping. So 1543 01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.680 that's not gonna happen. But let's hear a little bit 1544 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:59.359 about the situation because as everybody is so worried about 1545 01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:01.600 prices of everything in America going up, and yes, I 1546 01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.880 understand it's probably going to go up in some way 1547 01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:06.760 shapes your form, and things are going to trickle down, 1548 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:09.920 things are going to go a certain way. Currently things 1549 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:12.920 are kind of looking up. Let's learn a little bit, 1550 01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:13.279 shall we. 1551 01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:17.199 But we are able to report today that China is 1552 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:22.039 open to talks with a little more specific conditions attached 1553 01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:25.159 to it. First of all, as I said, China is 1554 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.920 demanding some respect and specifically, it basically wants the Trump 1555 01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:34.159 administrations to rainey in some of the cabinet members who 1556 01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:38.119 makes the disparaging remarks about China. And then the other 1557 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.720 more specific conditions is that China wants the USI to 1558 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:44.399 appoint a person that it could have those talks with, 1559 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:49.159 which is understandable because we've seen how different members of 1560 01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.439 the administration have said different things over the course of 1561 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:55.239 the last couple of months, and China is frustrated that 1562 01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:58.800 it doesn't really know what the US wants from. 1563 01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.239 So all right, they're willing to come to the negotiation, 1564 01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:05.880 to the negotiation table. Good things. Finally, a little bit 1565 01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:10.319 of some sound reasoning comes through here, because I don't 1566 01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:12.119 know if this is going to be a hot take 1567 01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:13.760 or people are going to disagree with this or not. 1568 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:19.920 China can't really survive without buyers. They make a lot. 1569 01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:24.560 They make a lot of things, products, goods, electronics, name 1570 01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:26.239 your thing, they make it. A lot of things are 1571 01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:31.159 made in China. America is the world's largest consumer where 1572 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:35.399 the world's largest buyer of things and stuff. I'm not 1573 01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:39.239 saying China can't survive without America. I'm saying that they 1574 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:42.000 would have an extremely tough go of it if they 1575 01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:44.800 were to try to make that happen, right, But I'm 1576 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:49.960 sure it's possible. It's not probable. It's possible, but not probable. 1577 01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:53.680 Right that being said, g is finally willing to come 1578 01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:59.560 to the negotiation table with Trump. But they want China 1579 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:03.960 to have a guy because apparently the current administration says 1580 01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:07.159 a lot of disparaging things about China. They're superman, super 1581 01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:10.520 mean to she, and she wants there to be a 1582 01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:14.359 guy in the administration, right, so they lost their guy. 1583 01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.439 They had one on Sleepy Joe aka China Joe, and 1584 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:22.439 he was their guy. Since like ninety two, he's been 1585 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:28.239 in bed with China. There's very famous speeches that were 1586 01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.039 given from him in ninety two when he was a 1587 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.039 younger man that had a cognizant brain, where he was 1588 01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:37.000 telling Americans that or to I think it was Congress 1589 01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:40.640 or Senate. I forget what he was in his earlier days, 1590 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:42.880 but either way, he was basically saying that we need 1591 01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:46.359 to strengthen relationships with China rather than see them as 1592 01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.760 an adversary. And in the nineties not exactly a bad take. 1593 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:54.760 But then we cut to Obama putting harsher restrictions on 1594 01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:57.359 Chinese trade. And that's whenever they took the pandas away 1595 01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:00.840 from the DC zoo because panda diploma. Right, if you're 1596 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:02.800 cool with China, you'll get a panda in your zoo. 1597 01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:06.039 If you don't, if you upset the CCP, they take 1598 01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:08.720 their pandas back. And that's a whole anybody wants to 1599 01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:10.920 look up panda diplomacy. It's kind of ridiculous, but it's 1600 01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:14.800 a real thing. It's a real thing. Now they're saying 1601 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.039 that they're willing to come to talk, but they want 1602 01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:19.960 somebody in the White House or in the Cabinet or 1603 01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:23.479 somebody somebody in the US government that's not going to 1604 01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:29.359 just skull drag them for being themselves. And that's like 1605 01:34:29.479 --> 01:34:31.560 an actual talking point they're trying to make that they 1606 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.680 want respect. Now. With all that being said, economically America 1607 01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:42.079 is not doing bad. Everybody was super worried about prices skyrocketing, however. 1608 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:43.560 From this negotiation. 1609 01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:47.039 So it's been eleven days since Trump's Liberation Day, eleven 1610 01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:50.840 days since April fifth, and the world hasn't ended. Prices 1611 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:55.960 haven't soared. If anything, prices have fallen, energy prices, grocery prices, 1612 01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:59.800 mortgage rates all down since Liberation Day. Also, the housing 1613 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:04.680 mar finally beginning to reset after years of record breaking 1614 01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:08.119 sky high prices. New housing inventory in this country hitting 1615 01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:11.680 a fifteen year high, the highest level since two thousand 1616 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:14.680 and seven. Over half a million new homes now on 1617 01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:19.119 the market. Multiple regions of the country seeing home prices tumbling. 1618 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:24.399 Parts of Florida specifically, huge movement and home prices falling sharply. 1619 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:27.000 And we're just getting started. Trump writing on true Social 1620 01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:31.479 this morning, the United States taking in record numbers and tariffs, 1621 01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:36.079 with the cost of almost all products going down, including gasoline, groceries, 1622 01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:40.399 and just about everything else. Likewise, inflation is also down. 1623 01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:44.520 Promises made, promises kept. 1624 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.359 Shout out to RJ talks for bringing all these things, 1625 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:53.199 you know. With that being said, I'm I'm kind of 1626 01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:55.359 happy to hear these things. I myself was kind of 1627 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.279 worried about prices going up. Look, it's tough out here. 1628 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.239 It's tough out everywhere. Everybody's got thrown struggles they're dealing with, 1629 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:04.159 and everybody wants the groceries to be cheaper. Everybody wants 1630 01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:06.880 gas price to be cheaper. Everybody wants everything to be cheaper. 1631 01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:10.840 Of course, the tariff conversation, I saw it as a 1632 01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:13.479 necessary evil, and I still do. Even if the prices 1633 01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.159 were to hike up for a year or two, this 1634 01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:20.239 would establish American domination on an economic scale like we 1635 01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:23.720 have never experienced in any of our lifetimes. I'm here 1636 01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:26.079 for that smoke. But yeah, it was gonna be a 1637 01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:28.720 tough transition. And I'm not saying that we still don't 1638 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:30.960 have a tough road ahead of us. It's very early, 1639 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:34.039 like you said, it's only been two weeks. But this 1640 01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:36.319 is a lot of good things as far as Hope 1641 01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:38.920 is concerned. So I do want to read this article. 1642 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:40.880 I think it's from the Toronto Stars, so I'm gonna 1643 01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.000 check it out for what it's worth. China open to 1644 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.880 talks if US shows respect and names a point person. Again, 1645 01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:50.640 China wants to have a boil on the inside. Shocker. 1646 01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:52.600 I know how many Chinese spies have we found that 1647 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.640 were inside of different political cabinets? Neither here nor there. 1648 01:36:56.319 --> 01:36:58.800 Let's talk about it, shall we. China wants to see 1649 01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:01.479 a number of steps from President Trump's administration before will 1650 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.840 agree to trade talks, including showing more respect by reigning 1651 01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:08.520 in dispara during remarks by members of his cabinet. Highly unlikely, 1652 01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:11.119 according to a person familiar with the Chinese government's thinking. 1653 01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:14.399 Other conditions include a more consistent US position and a 1654 01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:18.439 willingness to address China's concerns around American sanctions and Taiwan. 1655 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:22.600 Again not likely, said the person, who asked not to 1656 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:26.800 be identified to discuss internal thinking. Beijing also wants the 1657 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.439 US to appoint a person a point person for talks 1658 01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:33.319 who has the President's support and can help prepare a 1659 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:36.840 deal that Trump and Chinese leaders Ji Japan can sign 1660 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:39.960 when they meet, the person said. The fate of the 1661 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:44.039 global economy and the financial markets hinges on in large 1662 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:46.199 part on whether the US and China can find a 1663 01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:49.199 way to avoid a practical trade war. Trump is at 1664 01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:52.680 China with a with tariffs of one hundred and forty 1665 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:56.760 five percent on most goods since taking office, prompting Beijing 1666 01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.000 to retaliate and threaten to wipe out most trade between 1667 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:05.560 the world's biggest economies. The offshore one gained zero point 1668 01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:09.039 two percent against the dollar in the wake of the report. 1669 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:14.159 The Australian dollar, a China proxy currency, is also advanced 1670 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:17.039 zero point five percent. The S and P five hundred 1671 01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:20.640 index futures paired losses from as much as one point 1672 01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:24.279 six percent early in or earlier in the session. The 1673 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.880 rapid onslaught of the US tariffs has in uh in 1674 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:34.119 engineered red. I think that's I don't know what that 1675 01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.399 word's supposed to be, Honestly, I think it's supposed to 1676 01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:42.199 be engineered, engendered, engender okay. The rapid onslaught of US 1677 01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:46.479 tariffs has engendered broad public support in China for retaliation, 1678 01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.800 giving G a political incentive to rebuff Trump's repeated demands 1679 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:52.880 for a phone call. The US leader on Tuesday again 1680 01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:55.039 called on China to reach out to him in order 1681 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:58.399 to kick off negotiations to resolve the trade fight. It's 1682 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:01.359 unclear what will be uh produce a breakthrough to get 1683 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:05.119 talks moving. While both sides have indicated their open to negotiations, 1684 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.399 Trump appeared determined to get G on the phone straight away, 1685 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:11.520 while China wants any conversation between the leaders to produce 1686 01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:16.319 a clear outcome. Even then, if they agreed to on process, 1687 01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:19.840 fundamental questions persist on what any arrangement would look like. 1688 01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:23.159 Trump's demand remains unclear, and tariff levels on China would 1689 01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.439 need to remain high to achieve his goal of balancing 1690 01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:29.600 trade and attracting manufacturers to the US. They go into 1691 01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:33.319 the difficult road ahead here. However, let's read about what 1692 01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:35.600 jd Vance had to comment on this. And I know 1693 01:39:35.720 --> 01:39:38.319 some people hate him, some people love him. I'm kind 1694 01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:42.359 of in the middle on him personally, but anyway, while 1695 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:46.439 the person didn't identify any specific comments by administration officials. 1696 01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:51.079 Beijing has recently expressed notable displeasure with comments Vice President 1697 01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:56.359 JD Vance made about Chinese peasants. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Linging, 1698 01:39:57.199 --> 01:39:59.319 I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Last week called the 1699 01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:03.640 remarks ignorant and disrespectful in what was a rare direct 1700 01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:08.680 rebuke of a US senior leader. In addition to wanting 1701 01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:11.920 a consistent message from the US administration, officials in Beijing 1702 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.319 also want to know that Washington is ready to address 1703 01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:17.279 some of China's concerns, the person said. Chief among those 1704 01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.399 is the prevailing perception among Chinese officials that the US 1705 01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:25.039 has enacted policies designed to contain and suppress China's modernization. 1706 01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:30.680 I don't think that's yeah, okay, the point person here. 1707 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:34.800 China also wants the US to address its national security concerns, 1708 01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:40.039 particularly over Taiwan. Beijing claims the self governing island as 1709 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:43.119 part of its territory and has pledged to take steps, 1710 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:47.279 including military action, if necessary, to protect those claims. China 1711 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:51.319 will not undertake any provocative actions on Taiwan, but it 1712 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:55.640 will respond if provoked. Again, no one's provoking them, No 1713 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:59.119 one's going to provoke them. But okay. Finally, Beijing also 1714 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:01.840 wants the US to donate a point person to oversee talks. 1715 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:05.199 The person said, China has no preference on who this is, 1716 01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:08.279 but they want the person to clearly be speaking and 1717 01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:13.199 acting with Trump's authority. I don't this sit in like 1718 01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:15.680 Game of Thrones, hand of the king kind of stuff. 1719 01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:17.920 You want Trump's authority, You got to talk to Trump. 1720 01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:19.920 I don't know why they have the need to go 1721 01:41:19.960 --> 01:41:23.359 through a middleman. Like Trump has told them, Yo, pick 1722 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:26.199 up the phone, call me. Like that was the big thing. 1723 01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:28.560 Whenever you put all these tariffs down and you put 1724 01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:31.479 that ninety day hold on all the tariffs. He told them, listen, 1725 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:34.399 if you're willing to come and negotiate, we don't have 1726 01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:37.720 to go this route. If you take retaliatory measures towards us, 1727 01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:40.960 things will get worse. He made it was like an 1728 01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:45.319 eighty something percent tariff, China took retaliatory measures one hundred 1729 01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:49.279 and forty five percent. China took more retaliatory measures two 1730 01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:52.319 hundred and forty five percent tariffs. Now China's willing to 1731 01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:54.319 come to the negotiation. It's like, why, why did we 1732 01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:56.720 have to do this like if you're trying to flex 1733 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:58.840 on which one of us has got the longer stroke 1734 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:01.520 game here, I promise you the answer is clear. But like, 1735 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:03.479 we can go this route if you want to go 1736 01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:08.039 this route. But all the things concerning here. The Trump 1737 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:12.960 administration confirmed Wednesday morning the baseline tariff rate on Chinese 1738 01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:15.840 imports to the US remains one hundred and forty five percent, 1739 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:19.399 after a White House fact sheet released Tuesday afternoon, Washington 1740 01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:22.760 Times said that China now faces up to a two 1741 01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:25.600 hundred and forty five percent tariff on imports to the 1742 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.279 United States as a result of the retaliatory action. So 1743 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:34.439 I hope that everybody can get together and be adults 1744 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:39.800 about it and figure things out here. However, that being said, 1745 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.640 Donald Trump don't trust China. China is assh I like him. 1746 01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:47.239 I like him a lot. Uh, you know, I don't 1747 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:49.720 trust him. I still don't and probably never will, to 1748 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:51.399 be honest with you, as long as she is in 1749 01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:53.520 charge or as long as China is a communist country, 1750 01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:55.720 I'm never going to really trust them. But if they 1751 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.720 wanted to really go down the road here to see 1752 01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:02.479 which one of the people will blink first, say what 1753 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:06.399 you want about Trump. Like him, hate him, Think he's incompetent, 1754 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:12.039 think he's an evil genius, whatever, whatever. You're not going 1755 01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:16.359 to out trump him. You're not going to out audacity 1756 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.399 the man. This is the environment to which he thrives, 1757 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:23.560 and we're getting into an economic war. The man speaks 1758 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:26.560 the economic language. That's, if anything, that's the one language 1759 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:29.920 he speaks very well. So I don't know why she 1760 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:32.279 thought that this was going to play out in a 1761 01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:34.479 different way, And who knows. It's still very early. It 1762 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.399 said as of Wednesday morning, so as a time of 1763 01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:41.079 recording that was like fourteen hours ago that that dropped. 1764 01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:44.359 It's very possible that later this week they go back 1765 01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:45.920 on it and Trump hits him with some sort of 1766 01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.960 five hundred percent terror for some wild shit. It is 1767 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:53.039 so possible. But that would be so bad for the 1768 01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:56.760 Chinese economy. But I don't understand a world in which 1769 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:59.840 that's gonna play out positively or even neutrally for them. 1770 01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:01.680 It's not like they can go and beat the streets 1771 01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:03.960 and find more buyers for their goods in other places. 1772 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:08.199 Most countries don't have the buying power to sustain maybe 1773 01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:11.199 a yeah, I don't know, I don't know. If anybody 1774 01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:13.039 wants to weigh in on that one, please feel free. 1775 01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.560 I'm gonna check over here on the chat real quick. 1776 01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:20.960 Hold on here, what is this? Ravenlee shared a map? Oh, 1777 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:24.960 that's the North Pole and all the land that's claimed 1778 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:30.640 by different people. That's legit. Let's see here, h everyone's 1779 01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:34.319 favorite tranny. What a fucking fuzzy Yeah, I agree, I agree, 1780 01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:38.720 but yeah I get it. Yeah. Look, I don't know 1781 01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:41.399 what's to really be expected from the tariff war. I 1782 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:46.039 know that Trump's gonna win it regardless, because that's just 1783 01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:50.000 what he does as far as economic wars go. That 1784 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:53.840 being said, that's kind of a massive flex. I feel 1785 01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:56.119 like they're at the poker table right now. Anybody who 1786 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:58.800 ever watched like the World Series of Poker or anything 1787 01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:02.960 like that. These two guys, and one of them thinks 1788 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.079 he's got the strongest hand at the table. The other 1789 01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:07.439 one knows he's got the strongest hand at the table, 1790 01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:09.600 and they keep like upping the bet on each other, 1791 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:12.560 and then finally one of them makes the signal like 1792 01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:15.079 he's about to go all in. And I don't mean 1793 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:19.840 on a military standpoint, nothing, nothing about actual armaments or 1794 01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:23.920 weapons or anything like that. Strictly money and flexing on 1795 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:26.560 each other. It's the gamble. It's the game here. Right 1796 01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.319 Trump is making the signal like he's willing to go 1797 01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:34.880 all in against everybody right now, everybody else at the 1798 01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:39.479 table is gonna have to match his bet. Nobody sitting 1799 01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:42.439 at the table has the ability or the want to 1800 01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.760 match this bet. There's a few that are gonna try 1801 01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.319 to save face, and they're gonna try to make it 1802 01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:51.680 seem like they got it figured out. It's it's not 1803 01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:57.239 gonna play out well unless the American economy absolutely collapses 1804 01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:01.000 under its own weight, which it was at risk of 1805 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:03.199 for a good while there. Everybody was saying that we 1806 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:06.479 were practically in a recession, whether they were willing to 1807 01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:09.600 admit it or not. And we are now on the 1808 01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:12.079 other side of that, or beginning to get to the 1809 01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:15.279 other side of that, and it seems like the crisis averted, 1810 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.159 but new crisis might have been spawned up as a 1811 01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:22.880 result of that. Right that being said, Yeah, yeah, I'm 1812 01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:28.760 glad that China's finally, hopefully potentially seeing the light at 1813 01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:31.560 the end of this tunnel and being like, hey, hey man, 1814 01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:34.600 we don't want that smoke. Let's talk about it. You know, 1815 01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:38.319 but we shall see, we shall see how everything goes. 1816 01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:41.840 Let's see, let's go back to another article that I 1817 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:48.119 had pulled up here. Uh, we talked about Dinah, talked 1818 01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:51.079 about China. You know what. Hey, let's go ahead and 1819 01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:53.319 talk about what Royce had brought up here. Apparently we 1820 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:58.720 got a potential serial killer. What the hell? Okay, I 1821 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:01.119 don't really see much of a common thread between the 1822 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:03.520 three victims. Usually a serial killer has like a type 1823 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:05.640 they hunt for. But okay, let's get after it. Here. 1824 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.319 Dead women are turning up a New England beach towns. 1825 01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.439 Police deny a pattern, but locals fear a serial killer. Yeah, 1826 01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:12.640 that's all I was saying. I don't see much of 1827 01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.399 a pattern here in age and race and any of that, 1828 01:47:15.479 --> 01:47:17.960 except for the fact that they were all women. Like, 1829 01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:21.479 all right, let's dive in a little bit here. Since March, 1830 01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:24.680 bodies of six people have been discovered in Connecticut, Massachusetts, 1831 01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:28.119 and Rhode Island. Three of the remains were identified as 1832 01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:32.000 belonging to women aging thirty five, fifty six, and fifty nine. 1833 01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:35.319 News of the disturbing discoveries is fueling speculation about a 1834 01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:39.279 serial killer or killers preying on New England residents. The 1835 01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:42.920 rumbling start on social media in early April. Posts about 1836 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.079 bodies seriously turning up in sleepy towns in the coastal 1837 01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:49.880 New England states of Connecticut, Rhode Island Massachusetts began hitting 1838 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:54.199 for you pages on TikTok and newsfeed on x Since 1839 01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:56.119 early March, the remains of six people have been found 1840 01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:59.159 in towns close to one another in three states, ramping 1841 01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:03.239 up speculation about a serial killer in the area social media. 1842 01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:06.880 Social media users claim the disturbing discoveries are connected, but 1843 01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:09.439 police say they haven't yet found any links between the cases. 1844 01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:11.760 Police are also cautioning the public not to jump to 1845 01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:15.159 any conclusions. Yeah, I bet they are. I would tell 1846 01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:19.920 people don't rush to judgment, Groton Police Chief Lewis Fosso 1847 01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:24.279 told the News on April eleventh. Given the relative proximity 1848 01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:26.399 of the towns where the remains are found, people are 1849 01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:28.720 telling each other to stay away from their surroundings and 1850 01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:33.439 report any suspicious behavior. On March nineteenth, human remains are 1851 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:38.279 found near Colonel Ledyard Cemetery in the seaside Connecticut town 1852 01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:41.119 of Groton. The remains belong to a female between the 1853 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:43.840 ages of forty and sixty. God, that's a wide age gap, 1854 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.000 all right, between the ages of forty and sixty, and 1855 01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:49.399 we're left near the cemetery. In mid February, investigators said 1856 01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:53.399 per NBC Connecticut, the woman may have been missing before that. 1857 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:59.520 They said, well, no, shit, sherlock all right. Anyway, her 1858 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:03.079 remains found in a suitcase. Okay, that's a bit of 1859 01:49:03.079 --> 01:49:06.600 a nuance here. Residents concerned about the new discovery became 1860 01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:09.079 spooked when they learned that the bodies of two other 1861 01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:14.720 women had recently been found in two other Connecticut towns, Norwalk, Norwalk, 1862 01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:18.159 Sure and New Haven. On March six, remains of a 1863 01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:21.600 woman identified as Page fan in thirty five of West Islip, 1864 01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:25.079 New York, were found in the Norwalk River near the 1865 01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:30.399 abandoned Gritztmill Road bridge in Norwalk near the Wilton border. Okay. 1866 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:33.640 The same day, March six, a human skull was found 1867 01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:36.399 in the woods off Route three in Plymouth on the 1868 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:40.319 Massachusetts Coast. Authorities have not yet determined age or gender. 1869 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:42.680 Weeks later, on March twenty first, the body of a 1870 01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:45.760 third Connecticut woman, identified as Denise Leary fifty nine, was 1871 01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:48.159 found in New Haven, about forty minutes away from Norwalk. 1872 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:51.439 According to New Haven Police, Leria, a mother of two 1873 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:54.159 for New Haven, was reported missing in August. People who 1874 01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:56.960 were cleany or clearing brush behind their house in Rock 1875 01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:00.520 Creek found her remains. Five days later, the body of 1876 01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:03.279 a woman was found in the woods in Foster, Rhode Island. 1877 01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:06.800 Michelle Romano, fifty six, was reported missing from the coastal 1878 01:50:06.840 --> 01:50:10.159 town of Warwick in August. Police say her death has 1879 01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:13.119 been determined to be as suspicious in nature. Authorities have 1880 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:16.359 not yet said how she died. Most recently, on Wednesday, 1881 01:50:16.399 --> 01:50:21.479 April ninth, human remains are found in woodwards in killing Lye. 1882 01:50:22.199 --> 01:50:25.199 The Connecticut State Police told the people in an email 1883 01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:29.479 they have not yet been identified. This investigation is in 1884 01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:32.680 the early stages, remains active and ongoing, and there is 1885 01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:36.800 no information about the time suggesting any connection to similar 1886 01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:40.319 remains discoveries actively under investigation by the CSP or the 1887 01:50:40.479 --> 01:50:44.119 CT law enforcement agencies. The statement also said there is 1888 01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:46.279 no known threat to the public at this time. Officials 1889 01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:49.119 are still trying to determine the cause and manner of 1890 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:53.000 all of their deaths. Okay, well, that's just a depressing 1891 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:55.479 way to wrap this one up, isn't it. But okay, 1892 01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:59.399 and it's possible social media is going to be social 1893 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:02.880 media and is going to be TikTok. But I you know, 1894 01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:05.039 I'm not saying that there's obviously some sort of a 1895 01:51:05.079 --> 01:51:08.079 serial killer on the luce here. It's horrible that there's 1896 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:14.199 bodies being discovered and and that's horrible. But also, I 1897 01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:19.920 you know, I'm why don't people just carry weapons? It'd 1898 01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.399 be so much easier to just go buy a gun 1899 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.119 and carry it with you at all times. I don't know, Okay, 1900 01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:29.680 let's see here, anything else going on in the chat here. 1901 01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:35.079 Raven Lee has shared an article the Daily Express archaeology 1902 01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:38.760 breakthrough at the church standing where Jesus was crucified, Oh, 1903 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:45.479 the Sepulcher Ooh, well, you know, actually I've just recently 1904 01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.479 heard a different belief as far as where they believe 1905 01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:53.760 Jesus was crucified. There's two mounds. Yes, they're both. It 1906 01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:57.079 could be referred to as Golgotha or Place of the Skull, right, 1907 01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:01.039 they are next to each other. But there is a 1908 01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:04.119 conversation now whether the Holy Church of the Sepulcher is 1909 01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:06.760 actually built on the correct site or not. So actually, 1910 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:08.840 I am very interested to see what you have brought 1911 01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:12.560 to the table here, Raven, let's check it out. The 1912 01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:16.039 Church of the Holy Sepulcher Sepulcher in Jerusalem is believed 1913 01:52:16.039 --> 01:52:18.880 to be the site where Jesus crucifixion, burial, and resurrection, 1914 01:52:19.720 --> 01:52:22.520 and recent archaeological digs have revealed a huge amount of 1915 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:27.640 history about the site. Yeah, so the things that I 1916 01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:31.880 had researched here recently showed that back in the day 1917 01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:34.800 before it was the land was taken back by the 1918 01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:38.800 Israelites and the Hebrews, way back when. Apparently gold Gotha 1919 01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:42.039 is the place where they sacrificed their children to Moloch, 1920 01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:45.680 the Canaanite god. And that's also why that place is 1921 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:47.920 known as the Mound of the Skull. That and also 1922 01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:49.960 the side of the mound looks like it has a 1923 01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:52.000 skull etched into the side of it. So I've heard 1924 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.439 both being true. But let's check it out here. Recent 1925 01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:58.199 excavations traditionally held by the at the Holy Church of 1926 01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:01.399 the Sepulchurt traditionally hailed to be the cation of Jesus Crucifixion, 1927 01:53:01.640 --> 01:53:05.600 have un earth fascinating historical artifacts. The latest discoveries indicate 1928 01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:07.479 that the site, which dates back to the fourth century 1929 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:11.960 were initially an ancient quarry. Signs of extensive stone attraction, 1930 01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:14.880 including deep saw marks in the rocks, suggest that the 1931 01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:18.640 area was deserted during the Iron Age before being repurposed 1932 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:23.319 for farming activities in the Roman Era. Following the AD 1933 01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:27.720 seventy siege, Emperor Hadrian erected a pagan temple on the site. 1934 01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:31.720 The temple stood into the fourth century, where Emperor Constantine 1935 01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.640 commanded its destruction to make way for the Christian Church. 1936 01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:38.760 Can I interrupt real quick? I'm sorry, but Hadrian was 1937 01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:42.119 not emperor until one seventeen AD, so that would have 1938 01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:47.119 been the Spacian So continue. The article's wrong. 1939 01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:49.560 Yeah, I'm trying to read here. It says, yeah, following 1940 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:52.680 the siege, Emperor Hadrian erected a pagan temple. Yeah, that's 1941 01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:58.279 not correct at all. I'll be damn good. Call tony 1942 01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:02.840 good call Okay. So let's see here stood until the 1943 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:06.399 fourth century, when Emperor Constantine commanded its destruction to make 1944 01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:10.800 way for the Christian Church. Excavation spearheaded by Marcarius, the 1945 01:54:10.840 --> 01:54:14.680 first Bishop of Jerusalem, revealed a rock hewn tomb identified 1946 01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:18.640 as Jesus burial place. Among the recent findings are remain 1947 01:54:18.920 --> 01:54:23.960 or remnants of Roman cultic structures, underscoring the sites shifting 1948 01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:28.520 religious significance over time. Currently, archaeologists are concentrating their efforts 1949 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:31.800 on further probing the northern aisle of the church, scrutinizing 1950 01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:36.159 the Roman foundations, and delving into the historical strata that 1951 01:54:36.279 --> 01:54:40.520 contributed to the site's religious prominence. Now that's Fascinatingway is 1952 01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:41.039 there more here? 1953 01:54:41.239 --> 01:54:41.359 Oh? 1954 01:54:41.479 --> 01:54:44.199 Yeah, here we go. These discoveries play a crucial role 1955 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:48.359 in comprehending the evolution of early Christian sanctuaries, which were 1956 01:54:48.399 --> 01:54:52.960 constructed to cater two pilgrims. The excavation offers vital insights 1957 01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:56.239 into the site's evolution into a significant hub of Christian worship, 1958 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:59.960 as well as its relevance relevance in the wider religion 1959 01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:04.079 context of Jerusalem. The continuous effort aims to record the 1960 01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:08.239 church's complete architectural development and its significance in the spiritual 1961 01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:11.279 and cultural tapestry of the city. You know, I've heard 1962 01:55:11.319 --> 01:55:12.920 a lot of things as far as like what's going 1963 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:17.720 on with Jerusalem in an archaeological standpoint here recently, like, 1964 01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:22.279 for instance, Herod's Palace, the Palate of Herod the Great, 1965 01:55:22.399 --> 01:55:26.600 not who was the one. It wasn't Herod the Great 1966 01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:30.119 that had Jesus crucified. It was his son Herod. I'm 1967 01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:33.840 gonna butcher the second part Argustia something. There was another 1968 01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:37.600 part of that name. His palace wasn't at Herod's palace 1969 01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:39.520 in the city of Jerusalem. As a matter of fact, 1970 01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:43.840 conscious pilot was staying at the actual palace of Herod 1971 01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:47.159 the Great at the time. So there's a lot of 1972 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:51.439 the story of the final day of jesus life right 1973 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:53.119 well before the cruise fixion. He came back from the 1974 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:55.680 dead to all this stuff. But they believed for the 1975 01:55:55.720 --> 01:56:00.399 longest time that when he was put on trial, right 1976 01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.680 he went right next door to where the temple stood, 1977 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:08.079 to where the Roman barracks were housed. They are now 1978 01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:10.039 starting to believe that he might have been brought to 1979 01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:12.760 a different place as far as his prison and beating 1980 01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:14.880 and all that goes, because there was another barracks for 1981 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:18.399 Roman soldiers close to the palace of Haret the Great, 1982 01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:21.119 which is a parking lot today, I might add, But 1983 01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:23.720 they believe that that barracks is where he might have 1984 01:56:23.760 --> 01:56:28.279 been tortured and scored. Right then, as far as where 1985 01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:30.920 everything is played out here. They thought for the longest 1986 01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:33.239 time that he was, you know, carried his cross through 1987 01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:37.239 the entirety of Jerusalem to go to that spot. But 1988 01:56:37.399 --> 01:56:40.399 on the backside of where Harrod's Palace once stood, which 1989 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:44.560 was at one time the wall surrounding Jerusalem. That backside 1990 01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:47.079 there they now have found a spot where there was stairs, 1991 01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:51.039 there was a stage, if you will, and it seems 1992 01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:53.119 like that might have been a place for judgment that 1993 01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:56.520 was literally just through the door. Oh, I wish I 1994 01:56:56.520 --> 01:56:59.399 had the thing pulled up. There's a whole there's a whole, uh, 1995 01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:03.279 like three D model showing where Herod's Palace was, which 1996 01:57:03.319 --> 01:57:06.159 was being occupied by Pontius Pilot, third governor of Judea, 1997 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:09.760 all of these things, and on the other side of 1998 01:57:09.800 --> 01:57:12.600 the wall, Harrod's Palace like butted up to that wall. 1999 01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:15.399 On the other side of that wall. It's been destroyed 2000 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:18.760 since then, but there was at one time like a doorway, stairs, 2001 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:21.640 a whole platform where basically he just had to step 2002 01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:24.399 out and he'd be, you know, presenting to the crowd 2003 01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.279 in this way. So they actually think that Jesus didn't 2004 01:57:27.279 --> 01:57:29.479 walk through the city of Jerusalem. He walked around the 2005 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:33.079 outskirts as he was carrying his cross. And also as 2006 01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:35.520 far as what I said earlier is the barracks that 2007 01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.720 was right next to the temple. They think that the 2008 01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:41.199 whaling wall is like the last remaining wall of the 2009 01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:47.159 original temple. But that doesn't make sense per the written traditions, 2010 01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:49.159 because they said that the Roman guards were able to 2011 01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:56.319 peer down into what's it called the the woman's not 2012 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:59.319 the women's section, the women's section, thank you. It was 2013 01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:01.760 like the outer on where even women were allowed to go, 2014 01:58:02.359 --> 01:58:04.119 and they were able to peer into that from their 2015 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:07.479 vantage point. The problem is their vantage point is the 2016 01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:11.119 whaling wall. So we actually believe that that whaling wall 2017 01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:15.760 might be the dividing line between the former Roman barracks 2018 01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:20.920 and the women's section of the temple. I see your 2019 01:58:20.960 --> 01:58:22.840 hand raised, Royce. I know you're gonna want to weigh 2020 01:58:22.840 --> 01:58:23.479 it as well. 2021 01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:29.239 Funny enough, it wasn't entirely regardless relating to the what 2022 01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:32.239 you're talking about right now. But as far as the wall, 2023 01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:34.079 so do you know that that's not a part of 2024 01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:38.199 the wall of the temple so as a retaining wall 2025 01:58:38.920 --> 01:58:40.159 for the temple mount. 2026 01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:43.640 So like that doesn't it hit is holy because it's 2027 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:48.039 abudded next to but like so like on top of 2028 01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:50.800 the temple mount, where the dome on the rock currently is, 2029 01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:54.359 is where the temple is, where our temple it used 2030 01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:57.960 to be, right, So that's that's for sure. 2031 01:58:58.600 --> 01:59:01.600 Abe, here's a quick question that I have. 2032 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:06.880 So the san Hedrin was still operating in the time 2033 01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:15.439 of Jesus. The san Hedrin, the Jewish court system put 2034 01:59:15.479 --> 01:59:17.520 people to death before, for sure. 2035 01:59:18.319 --> 01:59:20.960 So like, I don't understand. 2036 01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:25.079 Why they wouldn't have done it themselves, why they needed 2037 01:59:25.119 --> 01:59:29.159 to go through a Roman emissary, because like, we have 2038 01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:32.319 our own court system, we have our own like ways 2039 01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:33.399 to sentence people. 2040 01:59:34.319 --> 01:59:37.239 So something that does that doesn't does not. 2041 01:59:37.239 --> 01:59:43.359 Make sense to my logical slash Jewish brain. I feel 2042 01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:46.439 where like, if we already have a court system that's 2043 01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:53.399 already established that we've put people to death before, why 2044 01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:54.760 go through the Romans? 2045 01:59:55.560 --> 02:00:01.359 Be all right? So uh, long story, short political reasons 2046 02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:04.439 because the Sanhedron at this time, yeah, they were operating 2047 02:00:05.039 --> 02:00:08.760 completely under the thumb of Rome, right, Like, hold. 2048 02:00:08.760 --> 02:00:09.760 But who cares if we? If we? 2049 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:13.079 If so, if Roman wants to kill this guy anyway, 2050 02:00:13.560 --> 02:00:15.720 why does it matter who kills him? 2051 02:00:16.039 --> 02:00:17.560 That doesn't make sense if if it's. 2052 02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:20.319 Political Rome didn't want him dead. Rome didn't care. They 2053 02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:22.239 put him under trial and Pont just said he was 2054 02:00:22.640 --> 02:00:25.720 he was an innocent guy, like they found nothing wrong 2055 02:00:25.760 --> 02:00:33.359 with him. The Sanhedron wanted him dead, Sam Hedron, excuse me, 2056 02:00:33.880 --> 02:00:37.119 because he was claiming things that they called heretical. He 2057 02:00:37.239 --> 02:00:40.800 was things that they saw as completely against their ways. 2058 02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:44.720 And yeah, they tried stoning him once, not too far 2059 02:00:44.760 --> 02:00:47.520 back from when he was crucified. That didn't go well, 2060 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:48.439 but they attempted. 2061 02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:53.840 I thought, I thought, I thought the stony wash the prostitute. 2062 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.359 That separate, separate conversation. Although they were trying to stone 2063 02:00:57.399 --> 02:00:59.840 the prostitute. But Jesus came to the temple and preached 2064 02:00:59.880 --> 02:01:03.359 on the steps outside of the temple, and the Pharisees 2065 02:01:03.399 --> 02:01:05.119 tried stoning him for that, and they hit a couple 2066 02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:08.960 of his apostles, but neither here nor there. They wanted 2067 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:11.760 him dead for their own political reasons and their own 2068 02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:14.920 religious reasons, for sure. But the reason why they chose 2069 02:01:14.920 --> 02:01:19.199 to use the Roman sword figuratively not actually as the 2070 02:01:19.680 --> 02:01:23.079 mechanism for death was because it would have put them 2071 02:01:23.079 --> 02:01:27.119 in a better grace as far as their oppressors of 2072 02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:29.560 the day and age, right they were trying to play 2073 02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:32.479 the political game to get Shade thrown off of them 2074 02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:35.159 because at that time, and Tony helped me out here, 2075 02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:38.479 there was a bit of I mean, there's always been 2076 02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:40.199 upheaval as far as like if you look at the 2077 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:44.960 historicity of Rome in Judea, but at that particular point 2078 02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:48.600 in time, there was a lot of upheaval and they 2079 02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:51.119 saw this as kind of like a bargaining chip, if 2080 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:51.520 you will. 2081 02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:57.760 So my understanding is that just from watching the passion 2082 02:01:57.800 --> 02:02:02.159 of the Christ, conscious pilot wasn't sure if he should 2083 02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:04.319 kill Jesus or not. He didn't really want to, but 2084 02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:07.560 he said, if I kill him, his supporters might revolt 2085 02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:10.479 against me, and if I don't kill him, Jesus' enemies 2086 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:13.079 might revolt against me. So he was caught in a 2087 02:02:13.119 --> 02:02:18.319 tough spot right there. And of course the Caiaphas and 2088 02:02:18.520 --> 02:02:24.960 the Pharisee authorities wanted to get the Romans to do 2089 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.680 this or at least sign off on it as much 2090 02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:31.119 as possible, so that if they're killing him, for example, 2091 02:02:31.399 --> 02:02:34.439 assuming they did it, if that provoked a revolt, then 2092 02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:40.359 the Romans might have the Pharisees back a little more. So, Yeah, 2093 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:44.159 it was politics and I'm doing a bad job explaining it. 2094 02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:45.920 I want to come back to a brief thing I 2095 02:02:45.960 --> 02:02:49.680 said earlier about Yeah, it was Vespasian Flavius who was 2096 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:53.720 emperor in seventy eighty and his son Titus conquered Jerusalem 2097 02:02:54.039 --> 02:02:57.720 killed a lot of people. Titus is mentioned in the Talmud, 2098 02:02:57.760 --> 02:03:00.760 and Titus later became emperor. That was there's one major war. 2099 02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:04.000 There was another major Roman Jewish war, and one seventeen 2100 02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:06.680 AD at the beginning of Hadrian's reign, and then there 2101 02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:09.359 was a third one called the Barkokpa revolt in one 2102 02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:13.159 thirty five or so ap toward the end of Adrian's reign. 2103 02:03:13.279 --> 02:03:19.159 And Hadrian did build that temple, the Aalia Capitalina in Jerusalem, 2104 02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:21.640 but it wasn't at seventy a D. So that's what 2105 02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:23.640 tripped me up. When I was reading that and I 2106 02:03:23.640 --> 02:03:25.840 saw seventy a D. I thought that's way too early. 2107 02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:28.840 Yeah, seven eight is when they destroyed the temple because 2108 02:03:28.840 --> 02:03:31.039 of the Jewish revolt. And if we really want to 2109 02:03:31.680 --> 02:03:34.159 call as the first of three, yeah, who was the 2110 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:36.960 who fired the first shot on that one? So to speak. 2111 02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:40.600 That's that's a whole conversation. But so all right, Pontus 2112 02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:43.920 Pilot himself was a younger guy, and I don't mean 2113 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:46.000 youngers and like he was a teenager, no, no, But 2114 02:03:46.680 --> 02:03:50.319 he only got that position because of his father's influence 2115 02:03:50.359 --> 02:03:55.720 in Rome at that time, right, and the Pharisees, specifically Caiaphas, 2116 02:03:55.880 --> 02:04:00.239 knew that if they were to kill Jesus, he had 2117 02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:04.239 an insane following, right, And at that time during Passover, 2118 02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:07.359 when Jesus came to Jerusalem, they knew that if they 2119 02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:10.600 killed him they themselves that would have made him a 2120 02:04:10.640 --> 02:04:13.319 martyr and they would have been an even bigger uproar, 2121 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:17.840 and they were not afraid of but they didn't want 2122 02:04:17.840 --> 02:04:21.000 to lose any of their sway over their people, so 2123 02:04:21.119 --> 02:04:22.760 they wanted to make it seem like it was the 2124 02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:25.640 evil Romans that did it, not us. We were justified 2125 02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:27.119 in all of our actions, and it was like a 2126 02:04:27.239 --> 02:04:31.399 very political exchange, if you will. Now, on the other 2127 02:04:31.479 --> 02:04:34.239 side of that, poncious Pilot, he didn't want to kill Jesus. 2128 02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:36.000 As a matter of fact, he washed his hands of 2129 02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:38.000 it and said, I find no fault with this man. 2130 02:04:38.079 --> 02:04:40.760 And apparently y'all find fault in him because of some 2131 02:04:40.840 --> 02:04:42.680 things that he said. That's not my problem. Why are 2132 02:04:42.720 --> 02:04:44.800 you making it my problem. That's when he brought out 2133 02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:48.239 Jesus Christ and Jesus Barrabas, which, by the way, Barabbas 2134 02:04:48.279 --> 02:04:50.319 the guy released. His first name was Jesus too. It's 2135 02:04:50.319 --> 02:04:53.039 the whole thing, which Jesus should I release, right, And 2136 02:04:53.079 --> 02:04:55.319 they wanted Barrabas release, and they wanted to kill Jesus. 2137 02:04:55.880 --> 02:04:57.600 If he would have said, no, I'm not going to 2138 02:04:57.680 --> 02:05:00.800 kill this senicent guy, he was afraid of an uproar, 2139 02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:03.640 like an actual revolt to happen, and he was already 2140 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:06.279 almost on his third strike as far as the Romans 2141 02:05:06.279 --> 02:05:09.560 were concerned. If Pontus had one more thing go wrong, 2142 02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:13.039 he would have lost his position, if not lost his life, 2143 02:05:13.159 --> 02:05:15.880 and he knew that regardless of his father's influence. So 2144 02:05:16.039 --> 02:05:19.920 he killed Jesus to appease the crowd. Kaiaphas wanted Jesus killed, 2145 02:05:19.960 --> 02:05:23.119 said he could maintain his influence and power. And yeah, 2146 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:25.239 it was a whole it was a whole, messy, messy, 2147 02:05:25.279 --> 02:05:29.560 messy situation. But all of those prophesied in Psalms twenty two, 2148 02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:32.960 like all the way down to them, like gambling over 2149 02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:35.359 his clothes as he was being crucified, and the nails 2150 02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:37.479 going through his hands and feet. All that was prophesies 2151 02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:39.720 and psalms, So like it's a whole thing. 2152 02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:42.000 But I don't know if I would agree with that one. 2153 02:05:42.039 --> 02:05:43.319 But I hear, I hear what you're saying. 2154 02:05:43.600 --> 02:05:45.319 Have you checked Psalms twenty two? Brother? 2155 02:05:46.239 --> 02:05:52.039 So besides, it's been a little bit. However, there are 2156 02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:54.880 commentaries that have been written for a long time that 2157 02:05:54.920 --> 02:05:56.159 have probably explained things. 2158 02:05:56.920 --> 02:05:59.840 And okay, so here's my. 2159 02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:08.399 Can point a contention with when people take Hebrew scriptures, 2160 02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:15.239 not necessarily out of context, but don't translate or understand 2161 02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:20.159 them how the Jews have for the past couple thousand years. 2162 02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:24.960 For example, I'm sure you're familiar with Isaiah fifty three. 2163 02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:28.239 We're talking about the suffering servant. Yeah, who is the 2164 02:06:28.239 --> 02:06:31.880 suffering servant? Your answer to me is gonna be a Jesus? Right? 2165 02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:32.600 Could be? 2166 02:06:32.720 --> 02:06:39.079 However, earlier in Isaiah, Isaiah says specifically, the suffering servant 2167 02:06:39.880 --> 02:06:47.560 is the children of Israel. Right, So, like, it's not 2168 02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:51.560 understood how Christians mean it. 2169 02:06:52.840 --> 02:06:55.840 No, No, I hear what you're saying. Would that not 2170 02:06:56.000 --> 02:06:58.640 make sense that Jesus would be the suffering servant for 2171 02:06:58.760 --> 02:06:59.520 all of Israel? 2172 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:01.159 No? 2173 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:02.439 Why not. 2174 02:07:04.720 --> 02:07:10.840 Because we don't need a different method of atonement because 2175 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:15.199 God already gave it to us. Every well, so we're 2176 02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:19.199 so sorry. So the sacrifices, then, I'm saying, even even now, 2177 02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:27.359 like eventually Jews do help that the temple will be reinstituted, 2178 02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:31.479 the sacrifices will be had, but even but these are 2179 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:34.239 the things that that God instituted. So it's not like. 2180 02:07:35.680 --> 02:07:37.720 You or I just said, all right, well, we're going 2181 02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:38.520 to do this. 2182 02:07:39.239 --> 02:07:43.680 And because the the Hebrew word for sacrifice is carbon, 2183 02:07:44.199 --> 02:07:47.960 which comes from the word kirub is to bring close, 2184 02:07:48.399 --> 02:07:52.279 So like these are these are things that God's made 2185 02:07:52.640 --> 02:07:56.079 and even every single year on the day of Atonement, 2186 02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:59.479 like A said that every single year, this is this 2187 02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:03.479 is what it's going to be. Right, So in a 2188 02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:08.439 Jewish person's opinion, there didn't need to be any kind 2189 02:08:08.479 --> 02:08:13.399 of Messiah figure as far as a like how how 2190 02:08:13.439 --> 02:08:16.359 the Christians think of him, because that's not how how 2191 02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:22.720 we do because he needs to be human from a 2192 02:08:23.039 --> 02:08:26.840 Jewish woman, from from the line of David. So there's 2193 02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:32.760 so no supernatural like yours. Your soul needs are record 2194 02:08:32.760 --> 02:08:37.399 deemed because nowhere in the Torah or honestly anywhere in 2195 02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:41.840 the Old Testament anyway, it talks about an internal damnation 2196 02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:43.760 from God. 2197 02:08:43.920 --> 02:08:45.279 So even like let's just. 2198 02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:49.880 Say Shale or Ghem or a place where your soul 2199 02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:56.840 potentially gets purified for the sins you've done in this life, 2200 02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:02.840 never once have I mean, I could be talking out 2201 02:09:02.840 --> 02:09:05.680 of ignorance, and I'll do more studies as. 2202 02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:06.000 As we go. 2203 02:09:06.640 --> 02:09:11.880 But Judaism doesn't talk about an internal damnation from Hell, right, 2204 02:09:14.600 --> 02:09:19.600 So what so if in our literature and understanding we 2205 02:09:19.880 --> 02:09:22.439 don't believe that there's going to be an internal separation 2206 02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:25.600 from God, why would do we need Jesus? 2207 02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:29.840 Why did everybody believe that Jesus or the Messiah, I 2208 02:09:29.880 --> 02:09:32.239 don't want to say just Jesus. Why did everybody believe 2209 02:09:32.279 --> 02:09:33.760 that the Messiah is going to be some sort of 2210 02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:37.279 a military figure. It said that he would lead to 2211 02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:41.760 a new. 2212 02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:41.840 Because you know, part of it is that, like the 2213 02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:46.000 whole uh the wars, I think of God and magog 2214 02:09:46.600 --> 02:09:51.800 and that he he will usher in world peace through 2215 02:09:52.319 --> 02:09:55.119 I guess strength of that evil will be eradicated. 2216 02:09:55.119 --> 02:09:57.239 I think that's really where it comes from, is that. 2217 02:09:57.800 --> 02:10:00.920 Since we believe that evil will will eventually be no 2218 02:10:01.039 --> 02:10:08.279 more than by necessity, the leader must fight God's battles. 2219 02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:11.720 I at least understand the line of thinking, for sure, 2220 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:17.920 But even still, when it's talking about the Messiah itself, right, 2221 02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:22.840 they describe in grave detail all of the boxes that 2222 02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:27.239 must be checked, right, And and you and I have 2223 02:10:27.279 --> 02:10:32.199 talked about this offline before, and we you know, respectfully disagree. 2224 02:10:31.680 --> 02:10:33.479 On which sure, absolutely. 2225 02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:35.800 We're not checked and everything, but yeah, it's still very 2226 02:10:35.880 --> 02:10:37.159 interesting to look at for sure. 2227 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:39.199 Sure, that's absolutely yeah, for sure. 2228 02:10:39.640 --> 02:10:42.520 Yeah, anyway, all right, so yeah, I just realized we 2229 02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:45.039 me and you could probably have this conversation for another 2230 02:10:45.079 --> 02:10:47.399 two hours. Tony, I see you unmuted. I'm sure you 2231 02:10:47.439 --> 02:10:47.960 want to weigh in. 2232 02:10:49.119 --> 02:10:51.479 Yeah, I wanted to chime in. I'm a little in 2233 02:10:51.600 --> 02:10:56.039 between you two on some of this prophecy stuff. In general, 2234 02:10:57.039 --> 02:11:01.479 I don't really believe super huge in prophecies. I hope 2235 02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:03.800 I don't get too heretically here, but part of me, 2236 02:11:04.119 --> 02:11:07.840 I'm not one hundred percent sure Jesus was actually born 2237 02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:12.520 in Bethlehem, because he's from Nazareth. He's a Northerner. Bethlehem's 2238 02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:17.119 way south. But there was this need to put his 2239 02:11:17.199 --> 02:11:20.159 birthplace in Bethlehem because there was a prophecy about it, 2240 02:11:20.439 --> 02:11:23.079 and oh, how convenient he fulfills that prophecy if we 2241 02:11:23.159 --> 02:11:25.199 just make him born in Bethlehem. Oh and he's also 2242 02:11:25.239 --> 02:11:27.119 got to be descended from the line of David, so 2243 02:11:27.479 --> 02:11:29.319 we got to work that in there. Because the tribe 2244 02:11:29.319 --> 02:11:32.960 of Judah is south of Jerusalem. It includes Jerusalem, but 2245 02:11:34.199 --> 02:11:37.239 those northern tribes were already mostly lost before the time 2246 02:11:37.279 --> 02:11:39.319 of Jesus, and he was born way up there. So 2247 02:11:39.399 --> 02:11:43.680 what exactly is he Well, I feel like there's this 2248 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:46.760 tendency to try to force him to fulfill a lot 2249 02:11:46.800 --> 02:11:52.279 of prophecies. And in Catholicism this means that, Okay, Mary's 2250 02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:54.479 got to be a virgin, and she must be always 2251 02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:57.800 a virgin, and to other people that particular belief is 2252 02:11:57.840 --> 02:12:01.479 not that important. And you know, you just start lining 2253 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:04.039 up all these boxes that have to be checked, for example, 2254 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:07.720 and at a point I go, okay, okay, I'm supposed 2255 02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:09.479 to have faith in this, but do I really have 2256 02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:13.600 faith in it? I'm going to plead the fifth I 2257 02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:15.920 guess I don't want to be too much of a heretic. 2258 02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:17.880 I am a Knight of Columbus, and yeah, I don't 2259 02:12:17.880 --> 02:12:19.760 want to scandalize anyone no, no, no. 2260 02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:23.239 Something why they had to move or at least leave 2261 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:26.680 Nazareth was because Herod the Great quote unquote the Great 2262 02:12:27.039 --> 02:12:29.479 put out a proclamation that everybody in Nazareth that was 2263 02:12:29.479 --> 02:12:32.199 too or under had to be put to death because 2264 02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:34.600 some guys approached him and said they were coming to 2265 02:12:34.600 --> 02:12:37.600 meet the new king that was being born, and they 2266 02:12:37.600 --> 02:12:39.239 said that he was going to be from Nazareth. So 2267 02:12:39.279 --> 02:12:42.159 he put that proclamation out, and allegedly that's when Jesus 2268 02:12:42.239 --> 02:12:44.800 had to go to Egypt. And while some people believe 2269 02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:47.079 that's where he spent his early years and that's why 2270 02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:49.119 he's some sort of ascended master type. And I know 2271 02:12:49.159 --> 02:12:52.760 I'm sounding a lot like Jonathan at this one. That 2272 02:12:52.880 --> 02:12:55.760 is at least the trail of thinking that would lead 2273 02:12:55.800 --> 02:12:57.680 to why they had to go to Bethlehem rather than 2274 02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:01.159 stay in Nazareth. But then cut too, when he comes 2275 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:04.039 back to Nazareth, everybody knows him as the carpenter's kid, 2276 02:13:04.439 --> 02:13:07.479 you know. And Mary, we know for sure had four 2277 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:12.399 other sons, not Jesus, and up to two daughters, maybe more. 2278 02:13:13.119 --> 02:13:16.439 But yeah, certain people believe that that takes away from 2279 02:13:16.520 --> 02:13:20.319 her significance. I am not of that, but yeah, I 2280 02:13:20.359 --> 02:13:22.479 feel you on that it's a lot of people try 2281 02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:24.720 to force a circle into a square hole. 2282 02:13:26.039 --> 02:13:26.880 Huh. 2283 02:13:27.079 --> 02:13:28.479 And I'm with you on that there's a lot of 2284 02:13:28.479 --> 02:13:31.439 people that will like go to the extremes to make 2285 02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:34.239 it do that. I would like to not be one 2286 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:36.039 of those people. I would like to be somebody who 2287 02:13:36.079 --> 02:13:41.479 looks at the confirmed, indisputable facts and go from there. 2288 02:13:42.199 --> 02:13:45.239 And at least in my studies, the indisputable facts have 2289 02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:48.119 put me onto the trajectory and the thought process that 2290 02:13:48.199 --> 02:13:50.760 I'm on. But I know a lot of Christians really 2291 02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:52.680 do not like my stance on a lot of things. 2292 02:13:52.720 --> 02:13:53.399 And that's okay. 2293 02:13:53.960 --> 02:13:56.279 It's really hard to know much of anything that's going on. 2294 02:13:56.399 --> 02:14:01.520 Back it out on a sair Tony. 2295 02:14:01.359 --> 02:14:04.399 The Holy Innocence. If there were, you know, all these 2296 02:14:04.439 --> 02:14:06.760 babies being killed on the order of a king, and 2297 02:14:07.159 --> 02:14:10.119 wouldn't that king get really unpopular for doing that and 2298 02:14:10.199 --> 02:14:13.560 maybe even be overthrown or close to it. Wouldn't it 2299 02:14:13.760 --> 02:14:17.119 have at least been written down? Well, if it was, 2300 02:14:17.159 --> 02:14:21.520 it hasn't survived, neither has anything else about his childhood. 2301 02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:24.840 It just kind of feels like a story that people 2302 02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:27.920 would make up to make it as interesting as possible, 2303 02:14:27.920 --> 02:14:29.439 and it would be really nice if there were more 2304 02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:32.920 information that survived, like the census records or something. Do 2305 02:14:33.000 --> 02:14:34.479 we have any Roman censuses? 2306 02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:39.600 We do? We do. Indeed, there are Roman censuses from 2307 02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:44.720 Nazareth that show a serious population dip around that time. 2308 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:48.359 And the argument as far as Harod not being overthrown 2309 02:14:48.479 --> 02:14:52.600 was because the Herod senior was really tight with Rome 2310 02:14:53.439 --> 02:14:56.199 and like he if they would have tried to overthrow him, 2311 02:14:56.239 --> 02:14:59.319 the Romans would have had his back and quelled the resistance. 2312 02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:01.439 So he kind of had carte blanche ability to do 2313 02:15:01.520 --> 02:15:03.560 what he wanted with his people as long as he 2314 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:05.880 didn't make it a problem for the Romans, they let 2315 02:15:05.960 --> 02:15:08.600 him do what they wanted. And that's that was like 2316 02:15:08.640 --> 02:15:11.600 the gentle balancing act. And it's not like that was 2317 02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:14.039 just indicative of Herod. I mean, there was a lot 2318 02:15:14.079 --> 02:15:18.479 of Roman conquested areas that had local leadership that they 2319 02:15:18.600 --> 02:15:20.720 tried to let remain in place. And yeah, they put 2320 02:15:20.800 --> 02:15:23.000 Roman governors over them, but as long as they could 2321 02:15:23.000 --> 02:15:25.479 have a decent working relationship with the people, then they 2322 02:15:25.520 --> 02:15:27.560 would try to do that as best they could. Rather 2323 02:15:27.640 --> 02:15:30.520 than force their beliefs on them, they would allow these 2324 02:15:30.560 --> 02:15:32.640 people to maintain their own religion in a lot of 2325 02:15:33.199 --> 02:15:36.000 cases and things like that. But the second it became 2326 02:15:36.039 --> 02:15:40.359 a Roman problem, they ended that problem. That was a 2327 02:15:40.399 --> 02:15:44.560 reoccurring theme for them for sure. But anyway, so yeah, again, 2328 02:15:44.600 --> 02:15:46.880 we could talk about this literally all night, and I 2329 02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:48.439 do have to edit this so we can get out 2330 02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:52.159 the next day. So I do want to thank everybody 2331 02:15:52.199 --> 02:15:55.760 for coming in and chiming in on this episode. Anybody 2332 02:15:55.800 --> 02:15:57.479 listening to this on Thursday, if you would like to 2333 02:15:57.479 --> 02:15:59.960 be a part of the conversation, then please come check 2334 02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:02.520 out The Cajun Night on Patreon. I will put the 2335 02:16:02.560 --> 02:16:05.359 linklin description below as I do every episode, and this 2336 02:16:05.439 --> 02:16:07.640 is what we do. We talk about all the geopolitics, 2337 02:16:07.640 --> 02:16:09.720 we talk about some religion, we talk about some history, 2338 02:16:09.720 --> 02:16:13.680 we talk about some anthropology, some languages all over the 2339 02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:15.800 place with this and I really look forward to our 2340 02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:18.479 Wednesday night conversations. Again, I want to thank everybody for 2341 02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:21.520 joining joining in on this one and until next time, 2342 02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:43.680 as always, God bless