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your support. So let me start with this tidbit from
the New York Post how. Jimmy Kimmel, who is the
host of the Unfunny Late Show or whatever it is,
the Jimmy Kimmel Live Show, he insinuated on Monday night
that Charlie Kirk's assassin was actually a member of the
quote Maga gang. Now this was Monday night, before he
knew any information about the actual details. He just promoted
the narrow that the Left has been spinning that the
shooter was Maga because his parents were registered Republicans. And
so that's enough proof in order to you know, throw
a bunch of floaters in the punch bowl. Sorry, I
know it's still lunch hour here anyway, And then he
also mocked Donald Trump's response to the death. He brought
up the matter during his monologue and claimed right wing
critics were hitting new lows trying to frame the suspect
as someone who wasn't maga. Quote, we hit some new
lows over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying
to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything
other than one of them and doing everything they can
to score political points from it. Right, So this is indicative.
It's illustrative how media and a lot of people on
the political left react to these situations. By the way,
political right does this too. Whenever something like this happens,
like I see it, I see people like trying to,
you know, construct sort of a pre story to get
some information out there that this is who I think
it could be, you know. And I also see people,
oh God, I hope it's not one of ours. Right,
But when you see a victim that is a high
profile political activist like Charlie Kirk was the immediate guess
is he was murdered for his politics. He was murdered
because he is a high profile conservative Christian. That was
the first inclination from for a lot of people on
the right, and they spoke it. I spoke it. That
is the most obvious thing. When you hear the hoof beats,
think horses, not zebras. That's not to say I know,
that's not to say that it wouldn't be somebody else.
But as it turns out, our instinct was correct, and
I suspect there are a lot of people on the left,
particularly not the radical left, but more left of center
liberal types, moderate types, if you will. I think there
are a lot of people that want to believe that
it wasn't somebody from quote their side, and so they
get these tidbits of information, they get it from an authority,
if you can call them that, like Jimmy Kimmel, and oh,
thank goodness, I'm going to latch onto that. So that
becomes the narrative, It calcifies, and then people believe it
for years later, much like they believe that Hillary Clinton
only lost the election because the Russians stole it. Last
number I saw on that was like sixty percent of
Democrats still believe that the Russians hacked the election and
stole it for Donald Trump. So the left does have
its own conspiracy theories too, But there's also I was
thinking about this today after watching this interview that independent
journalist Andy No did with Winston Marshall on his podcast
released yesterday, and I'm starting to wonder, are a lot
of Democrats scared not of the right. We didn't burn
down cities when Charlie Kirk was murdered, We didn't behave
like y'all behaved after George Floyd was killed. But I
started wondering, is it possible that a lot of these
people left of center, more moderate Democrat elected officials, whatever,
that they're actually afraid of the radical leftists in their
base because they see what they're doing. Obviously you can
see what they're doing, especially in this case, and is
that the reason why they don't want to be critical
of this menace that is rising? And it is rising, Okay,
it is rising. The trend line on this is up
and up dramatically within the last five years. Andy No
has been tracking and reporting on this radical left wing
movement for gosh, going back to twenty fifteen or so.
But this is my concern, is that they're too afraid
to speak up, which, by the way, is exactly the
point of this kind of an assassination. It wasn't just
to silence Charlie Kirk. It's also to silence everybody that
agrees with Charlie Kirk, to make them afraid. And you
don't have to believe me on that. Here is Stephen Bonnell,
who is known online as Destiny. This guy was on
Piers Morgan Uncensored the other day along with Jack potsobiic.
I think is how he pronounces the last name there
who is a friend of Charlie Kirk's. And this I
don't use these terms, I don't talk in this way,
but this guy, like you watch this performance of this guy,
Steven Bonell aka Destiny. He comes across as just flat
out demonic. He's mocking Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's wife, his widow,
Jack pasobiec his friend mocking him. And he says at
one point in the interview, and it's a panel discussion.
And to her credit, Anaksperian, one of the founders of
The Young Turks, a left wing YouTube show, she tore
into him. She had a morally I think, objectively honest
but also good response to the murder. She was horrified
by it, and she doesn't form her opinions based on
anybody else or based on what Donald Trump thinks or whatever.
Because Destiny was saying, well, I'll condemn it when Donald
Trump says we should have peace and all this like
making his own speech and actions contingent on what Donald
Trump does. Why so he can avoid having to condemn
the thing because he doesn't want to condemn it. Because
if you look at his quotes in social media and
on his stream channel, he doesn't condemn it. He advocates it.
He said during this paneled scream fest, Piers Morgan has
allowed that show to just become I think James Lindsay
called it the Jerry Springer of YouTube. But he says, quote,
if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, donald Trump
shouldn't have been president for the second term. What is
he saying there? That Kirk deserved it, as do all
Trump supporters. That's what he's saying. If you want to
be alive, then don't vote for the person I hate.
That is an implicit threat to murder. Piers Morgan ripped him.
The other guests ripped him for this, and he would
not budge off of this, off of this position a
few weeks before, Destiny told CNN that he hated Turning
Point USA's founder Charlie Kirk and called him a Satan spawn.
He doubled down on his vitriol for the Kirk family Monday,
when he mocked Erica Kirk and accused Turning Point USA
and Republicans of weaponizing a widow's grief to try to
do recruitment for the political party. In a stream shortly
after Kirk's assassination, Destiny declared, quote, you need conservatives to
be afraid of getting killed when they go to events,
so they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
You need conservatives to be afraid of being murdered, and
that's going to prompt their leadership to quote turn down
the temperature. So I'm going to threaten you with murder
if you don't disavow murder. He says. Right now, they
conservatives don't feel like there's any fear, so he wants
there to be fear. And then he said on another stream,
he says, I have moved full on to the political
violence level, or the real violence level when it comes
to conservative people. He then posted yesterday that he had
been he had been taken down off of I think
it was Twitch, the streaming platform, but then people pointed
out that he had actually been taken off of Twitch
two years ago. He's still on YouTube. As I understand it,
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No talking with Winston Marshall. In every other issue besides
the violence of Antifa. In every other issue, the left
argues that fear and intimidation works every other one, but
when it comes to the actions of Antipha, it's like,
oh no, no, that's not intimidation. When you hear guys
like this idiot Destiny, when he says the stuff that
he says, saying that you Charlie Kirk died because of
the way you voted, and if you keep voting for Republicans,
we're going to keep killing you and your friends. Basically,
that's intimidation, that's terroristic threats. But he walks the line,
so he's below the color of law. But the implication
is quite clear. It's fear and intimidation. That's what ANTIFA does.
That's why they're defacing all of the memorials. There was
another one in UNC Wilmington. I saw another one somewhere else.
There was the rock at arderie Kel, Right, that's what
they're engaging in. It's intimidation, it's shut uppery. So through
that lens, here's Andy No with Winston Marshall. And by
the way, Winston Marshall former banjo player for Mumford and Sons.
Years ago he read a book by Andy No and
he tweeted it out and said interesting or this really
makes me think, or some interesting concepts in here, something
like that, and for that he was canceled and kicked
out of the band. Andy No sat for this interview
and I think they've talked before, but he makes the
argument that there is a kind of asymmetrical warfare going
on right now.
Speaker 2: We're not a hot war, obviously not a hot civil war,
but one side is by a large margin willing to
use the buying means necessary tactics.
Speaker 3: Obviously, not fifty percent.
Speaker 2: Of the those pulled are actually going to go out
and kill somebody for a political reason. But the support
is actually, really, really support important to the radicalization of
a society. Actually it's extremely important, which is why the
last really work as a machine to make sure that
that truths that are inconvenient to them about political violence
on the left is suppressed, that those who do reporting
about it are bullied at the very least, and or
a targeted for violence worse, or a deplatform somehow. Their
project is to mainstream support for the use of violence
so that their radicals can go out and do it
with impunity. And they've had a lot of success in that.
You know, when this fifty percent figure you just reference
from that great study, how it looks on the ground
is then you can have places out throughout Portland again
an environment where ninety percent, more than ninety percent of
the far violent insurrectionists in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one,
how their cases immediately dropped, okay, dismissed by the prosecutor
himself a partisan at that time.
Speaker 3: In an ideologue someone last he was.
Speaker 1: Talking about a poll that and we've talked about this,
the National Contagion Research Institute, that showed like fifty percent
of people who identify as liberal or very liberal that
they are at least somewhat supportive of political violence. And
what he's talking about is the permission structure, Like this
is part of the framework that you have to have
this high level of support. So you then have the
ability if you are in the radical wing and you
are interested in committing the violence, then you've got cover
because you've got the support. Right, you can like Robert Rudolph,
you can Eric Robert Rudolf, the abortion clinic bomber, and
the Olympic bomber. How he was able to stay on
the run for so long because people in the community
supported him and what he had done. Right, So you
rely on that. It gives you the impunity to then
go and commit the acts of violence. And then here's
a quick clip of him explaining sort of the anti
Funck clause.
Speaker 2: To intimidate one the local government and also show their
might and try to intimidate the federal government that our
violence is not confined to this one small area of downtown.
We can take it elsewhere, you know, and we can
cow the local authorities, all of them, the governor, cow
the governor, make police the police department afraid to show up,
which they did, and get popular support for it. That
is part of the insurrection, and I used at that
time in my reporting. I didn't use the word insurrection
to describe it since have because there was an anti
government agenda. Of course, how the press to this day
reports on that time of violence is that these were
racial justice protests.
Speaker 1: Right insurrection. Storming of the capitol not insurrection. Laying siege
to federal properties for months, almost a year, every single
day not insurrectionist, even though they're calling for the deconstruction
of the government itself and the fear putting fear and
intimidation into government officials to then give them the impunity
to commit more violence when they want to. Game on
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They talked at length about ANTIFA, which has its fingerprints
all over the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and he describes
in this clip. He describes the tactics here.
Speaker 2: Here's another reason why I say it's a symmetrical warfare.
I think a significant portion of the left understands that
violence works. They want prosecutors to be afraid to prosecute,
they want governors to be afraid to send in the
National Guard, and they want jurors who are serving on
trials also to know that if there isn't a conviction
of somebody they want convictor that there will be mass violence.
I think the American right hasn't woken up to this
reality of what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like a lot more people have
woken up in the last week to this. He was
also critical of media, very critical of media and how
they handle violence from the left.
Speaker 2: The tactics to deflect, mislead and lies. It's done every time,
like or ignore, ignore. When they can't do anything else,
they ignore. I just thought of some more examples, going
back to Portland. There was before the election, there were
all these warnings about how the threat to democracy and
elections come from the right and from MAGA, and in
Portland we had ballot boxes that were Portland and a
neighboring city than Cubert Washington, ballot boxes that were set
on fire, quite shocking attacks on democracy.
Speaker 3: Literally hundreds of ballots were destroyed, and.
Speaker 2: A message that was left behind is that it was
done for Gaza, and the story just kind of went away.
Nobody's been arrested still or in September now, then the
county election office where Portland is was completely smashed up
the night of the election also coincided timeline wise with
some of the arson attacks, and the people there left
behind anarchist symbols, which maybe a hint that they were
part of the Antifah network.
Speaker 3: Maybe that was completely ignored.
Speaker 2: If you talk to people in Portland, they on't even
know that our own elections offices were the analysers matched
up in this way. So I become I don't know
what the term is, it black billed. It's like when
it comes to the press, it's like, you're so I
tweeted this out after Charlie was I said, I was
responding to video on MSNBC where they had only contributor
say that Charlie may have been shot by one of
his supporters who were celebrating. I don't know if you
remember that. I was so angry and thought that was
so disgusting, but some emblematic of thousands of examples by now,
going back to twenty sixteen, I said, but the press
all the enemy of the people, and I never said
that before. I didn't like that type of rhetoric when
I heard it years ago from Trump, But actually I
think he's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: The American press.
Speaker 2: Is really, really sick. I would say it's not as
bad as in the UK. In the US you have
some really really twisted sick people who work in media.
Speaker 3: Say they're like sociopathic.
Speaker 2: Actually, unfortunately, I've had personal dealings with a lot of them,
and so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sociopathic. Yeah. Study show these types of personalities are
attracted to particular professions, including politics, media, and lawyers. So
he's not wrong there. He also warns that this threat
has now metastasized.
Speaker 2: I do what I do and I get a lot
of threats for it. I've had to move away from
my country as a result, and that's the cost of
this type of work. And the threat is mutating into
something else, like the whole anti anti fund radical life
movement has now really quite centered trans militancy at the
forefront and within the mainstream trans rights propaganda. They explicitly
call for violence on their plat cards, on their shirts
and signs they say trans rights or else. And there's
a rifle, there's a semi auto rifle and handguns. There's
nines Like that's not even a suggestion, right, it's a threat.
All these transactors propagandas are saying it's not enough you're
not a true ally if you don't take direct action,
and it will remain to be seen. If that was
part of the motivation for what happened here with Tyler Robinson,
Certainly FBI is probing that angle, right, So.
Speaker 1: I said, like the people who are associating with this militant,
radical population, they tend to be on the political left.
The Democrat Party has taken up, you know, trans rights
and such as as one of their causes. They see
the shirts, they wear the shirts. Right, We've talked about
there's a politician forget that she was out in New York,
I believe, and had that very shirt that he was describing.
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a post also on Twitter from Andy No who points
out there was a there's a flyer being posted around
unc Ashville advertising an event be Gay Do Crime, Bgay
Do Crime. That is apparently a popular mantra among some crowds,
and Andy No says the venue for this Trantifa event
is the Firestorm Bookstore in Ashville. That space doubles as
a meeting place for Antifa and other violent extremists radicalizing
one another as well as recruits, and he is correct
about that. I can confirm that as a former eight
year resident of Ashville. In his discussion with Winston Marshall,
he talked about how the media constantly attempts to craft
narratives in the immediate aftermath of murders, like for example,
here he talks about the shooting at the Annunciation School.
Speaker 2: So you know, complicated people killers like that, they don't
conveniently fit into This is left wing violence, This is
right white supremacists, far right violence, which is how these
journalists and these academics and activists want to categorize at home.
It's not the nature of political violence. It's involves all
these other variables, and they'll chip a chip it out
of the way until the cases are cut out and
not included in the data, where you don't get an
accurate picture at all. And the bigger point, I think
is beyond the body count of which side, which to me,
is really not that relevant of the matter. I think
the matter what matters more is who's accepting of.
Speaker 3: This as a norm. And I think we can see
the answer.
Speaker 1: To right, who is accepting of this as the norm
in the wake of a shooting or a murder like this,
Who is accepting of this as a norm. That's why
people are reacting with the you know, cancelation campaigns against
various people. And look, if you are in a position
of public trust, you're a teacher, you're a doctor, you're
an airline pilot, like, yeah, your celebration of an assassination
is totally relevant to the society. By the way, the
pressure that the media faces also just saw this pointed
out online that the Guardian, both The Guardian and the
Wall Street Journal that they had stories, they broke stories
about the leftist influence in this shooting, and they both
retracted their stories. They turned out to be true. Those
stories were correct. But the pressure campaign that the left
applies to media outlets works, and the right has no
response to this. There is no sort of cultural muscle
that the right can exert until I guess now we're
seeing it happen with some of these like Clemson just
fired a bunch of their staff over their response to
the murder. He explains also why he does what he
does despite the threats to his own personal safety here.
Speaker 2: You know, I bring out all these examples of my
reporting not to do what the left is trying to do.
I'm not trying to direct the attention to say, look,
the violence is only only coming from one side. This
is all that we should care about. No, we have
a crisis in America where easy access to deadly weapons
is a daily reality and people are radicalized online.
Speaker 3: You don't have.
Speaker 2: It's like, the domestic terrorists we have are not the
terrorists who are going to foreign countries to train with
militant on groups. There are people fifteen year olds getting
radicalized online. Last year, I did reporting on a girl
shooter mass shooter, which is uncommon in the state of Wisconsin.
She was radicalized on discord, had a deep fascination with
school shooters and mass killers. Her family had no idea.
Her dad was a church going man Christian. He just
thought his little girl was playing games and doing homework
on her laptop and listening to music and says she
was consuming all this and she's not the only one.
It's like, it's just this, so many like her. And
then we have now introducing in that type of space
the death cult propaganda that is political and celebrated.
Speaker 1: And cheered on, and that's the problem and maybe this
administration will try to root that out. All right, that'll
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