WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.120 What a. 4 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.519 Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode, you got a 5 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:31.160 bunch of us here together to keep continuing uh this 6 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:36.079 planetary symbolism with Mario from Symbolic Studies. Today we'll be 7 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.560 touching on venus and rejects you got with us. Tonight 8 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.600 we got Ethan Indigo. What is up, my man? Let 9 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:43.520 everybody know what you do. 10 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.119 Great to be here. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to this. 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.159 I know Mario is going to drop some bombs. I 12 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:55.159 like to write and observe. I have several books out 13 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:59.359 and about and one little article recently done on the 14 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:02.520 occult research into to website people check out. 15 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:05.040 Well, so I know this is gonna be great. 16 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.719 Thank you very much Ethan and his show ups around 17 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:09.480 bottom and definitely check out all that man all the 18 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.640 books that man's got. And then and then we got 19 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.519 we got it. We got a new reject joining us. 20 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:16.920 And now we got Frider Jin the Ninja. It's a 21 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.760 new one. Jen, please say hello and let everybody know 22 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:20.319 what you do is. 23 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.959 Sure. Thank you boss. I'm mister ninety three, okay, so 24 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.319 I'm Jin the Ninja. I have a show called Threshold Saints. 25 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.040 You can find me on x Twitter at wi Conory, 26 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.879 Born to Be, uk O n g and ig at 27 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.959 Threshold Saints, as well as the show account on x 28 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.200 Twitter And yeah, I've got lost of episodes coming up. 29 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.040 I don't even know which one I'm on, but you're 30 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.560 interesting spykild ontology. Yeah, that's my show. 31 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:51.000 Thank you, awesome, thank you very much. Freda Jen and 32 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.239 GJ TJ. Christ what's going on, sir? What's up? 33 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.439 What's up? Yeah, I've just been on the Christ Path. 34 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.359 My father was a carpenter and I've just looped into 35 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:00.599 a ton of carpentry. 36 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.359 So it's just part of that path. Uh. 37 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:04.519 I do at. 38 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:08.159 Contemporary Problems Underscore on whichever platform. I had to take 39 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:11.719 about two months off to do this Christ Path carpentry 40 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.360 and stuff, and uh I started a band, did a 41 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.520 lot of things in the in the real world kind 42 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.360 of thing. But I'm excited to get back on the 43 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:22.479 in the digital world and exchange information with others and 44 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:23.520 learn and listen. 45 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.479 Yeah, awesome, thank you very much. Don't you even do 46 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.560 like tile work or something too? Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, 47 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:30.319 it's along those lines. 48 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:31.240 Trying to fit in there. 49 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.400 I think the proper term is called the tile mason. 50 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:40.159 Oh yeah, nice, or a stone I'm also a stonecutter. 51 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:46.280 I guess I love it all right at his shin 52 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:47.800 and his links will be on the bottom as well. 53 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.039 And last but not least, the O G Robbie barks 54 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:50.919 what is going on? Man? 55 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:56.280 Hey everybody? Yeah, I'm excited to be here too. Mario, 56 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:57.639 You're always bringing the good stuff. 57 00:02:57.680 --> 00:02:57.879 Man. 58 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.159 I am a Marx or Robbie Marx. I'm an artist 59 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.919 and illustrator as well as a writer. And yeah, if 60 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.159 you want to check out my stuff, I also have 61 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.840 my metamindcast podcast. You can check out all my stuff 62 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.840 at link tree at r M A r X and 63 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:17.319 then'll pull up everything. 64 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.599 For you listen. 65 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:20.879 Thank you very much, sir, and all of his links 66 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.240 will be in the bottom as well. And finally, to 67 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.360 the man of the hour, hour and a half, we 68 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:27.360 got Mario from Symbolic Studies. 69 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:29.639 Thank you very much for jumping on again. Mario, I 70 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.919 appreciate it. It is always always a pleasure. So please 71 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:33.520 for them. 72 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:35.840 Listeners who may not know who you are. And I've 73 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.719 gotten some new ones recently, so maybe they don't. Mario 74 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:40.400 please let everybody know what you deal with. 75 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.199 Yeah, for sure, So thanks for having me. This is 76 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.960 a solid crew as usual. My project is called Symbolic Studies. 77 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.719 People can find all my stuff at symbolic studies dot com. 78 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.879 And what I like to do is basically put out 79 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.639 content based around the signs during the sign itself. So 80 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:01.639 right now, I just did a presentation on the death 81 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.280 of the Pope in Taurus season, which is really interesting 82 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.000 and there's a lot to get to with that because 83 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.680 the card that corresponds with the pope they even call 84 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.520 it the Pope card is the higher Fan, which is 85 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.159 ruled by Taurus, right, And so I like to kind 86 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.959 of find what's going on in the world in that regard, 87 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.480 and sometimes I make presentations about all of that. 88 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.040 But I like really short form. 89 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.839 Content too, So if people have not checked out my stuff, 90 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:26.639 they definitely should look at my shorts or follow me 91 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:27.920 on Instagram or whatever. 92 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.000 If you didn't say anything about your shorts, Mario, I 93 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.959 was going to his shorts a fire. I always tell 94 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.600 all that I'm jealous of his shorts and like, for real, 95 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.240 for people who are interested in Taro and you want 96 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.240 a social media account that just Tarot and Noah the bullshit. 97 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.560 Go follow Mario. His stuff is great. 98 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:46.480 Appreciate it, dude. Yeah, that's kind of the backbone of 99 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.439 the project, to be honest. It really started with that. 100 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.560 Also my artwork and things like that too, But the 101 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:54.120 shorts really is kind of, I think, what I'm most 102 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:54.480 known for. 103 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.279 Yeah, they're great, but yeah, so we finally got to Venus. 104 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.680 So oh, let's hear it, Mariy, what do you got for. 105 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:04.519 Sure? 106 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.439 So I want to do an intro and then I 107 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.680 sent you some slides that you can share in just 108 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:13.519 a moment. But you know, it's perfect timing because Taurus 109 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.959 is ruled by Venus, and so there's two signs that 110 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.319 are ruled by Venus, and there's two planets in the 111 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.439 traditional system that kind of have double duty. One would 112 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.079 be Venus. It rules Taurus and Libra an earth sign 113 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.480 and then an air sign. And then the same thing 114 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.360 goes for Mercury. Right, it rules Gemini, which is an 115 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.399 air sign, and then also Virgo, which is an earth sign. 116 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:41.639 So the traditional things with Venus, right, the correspondences. It 117 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:50.720 is associated with copper Friday, very feminine, right, beauty, you know, love. 118 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:51.839 Things like that. 119 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.319 So Venus is a very like there's a sensuality to Venus, 120 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:01.160 and the divine feminine sort of aspect really really goes 121 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.120 extremely deep, extraordinarily deep. I did a podcast not too 122 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.000 long ago, and I spoke with a woman. Her name 123 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.000 is Ola Wolney. If people are interested in her work, 124 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.879 I'm pretty sure I've brought her up here before. But 125 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.000 she is like a Venus sort of expert, and she 126 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:21.360 really ties in a lot of sort of primordial, dark 127 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:25.000 feminine sort of information as it connects to Venus. She 128 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.160 really thinks that Venus actually is where a lot of 129 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:32.319 symbolism associated with the moon, where that came from. And 130 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.519 we have a lot of overlapping sort of ideas. I 131 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.120 think that she attributes a lot to Venus and I 132 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.439 attribute a lot to the North Star. And so at 133 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.560 some point we need to like publish a conversation like 134 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.240 just about that, because there's so much going on there. 135 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:50.680 It's like absolutely insane. Right, But let's just look at 136 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:52.800 the glyph of Venus actually, if you don't mind just 137 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.279 pulling up that first slide there and right, it's a 138 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.759 circle with a cross on top. To me, when I 139 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.759 think about this glyph, I just think about the feminine 140 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.399 being in a higher priority sort of position with that circle. 141 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:11.079 Oftentimes the heavens are associated with the circle or the sphere, 142 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.920 and oftentimes the earth is associated with the square or 143 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.480 the cross or the number four, and so to me, 144 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.759 this kind of matches that sort of dynamic. It's kind 145 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:24.480 of interesting. Actually, there are some groups that will use 146 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.600 an inverted Venus glyph to indicate Mars, which is sort 147 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.560 of the classic thing, right, mena from Mars, women are 148 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.839 from Venus. Actually I say classic, but my understanding is 149 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.600 that actually really kind of came around in like I think, 150 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:39.759 like the sixties or seventies or something like that. 151 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:41.160 We'll get into it. 152 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.639 But esoterically, you could say that men are from Mercury, 153 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:47.800 and all you have to do is just add horns 154 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.800 on top of the Venus glyph, and then you have Mercury. 155 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:55.839 So perhaps Mercury is the real partner or consort of Venus. Right, 156 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.920 That's something I like to think about. But one of 157 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.360 the fascinating things about this glyph, if you want to 158 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.079 go to the next slide there, is that it was 159 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.959 pointed out in a book that I have that Venus, 160 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.600 the glyph of Venus, is the only glyph that actually 161 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.639 sort of can be put into the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, 162 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.839 and all of the sepharothes basically match sort of the 163 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:21.839 outline or the line work of the Venus glyph. And 164 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:23.680 so the person that wrote that book, which is where 165 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:26.240 I got this from, was making the case that this is, 166 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.000 you know, of course, extremely significant for the glyph of Venus. 167 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.720 And what's really interesting about this, in my opinion, is 168 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:39.679 that the hidden Doth dot would be right there in 169 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.960 the middle of that circle, right that center in that circle. 170 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:47.200 And so that is the sepharoath that basically connects to 171 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:50.200 the Clipothic tree right or the tree of Death or 172 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.960 the night Side of Eden. And so in my research, 173 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.519 that hidden sepharoth, the eleventh one is associated also with 174 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.679 the North right. And so I'll just put it out there. 175 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.120 You guys know where I'm at with kind of polar 176 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:09.320 northern symbolism or whatever I'm really inclined to think now, 177 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.440 And I wasn't as confident saying this months or even 178 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:16.720 years ago, but literally, the symbolism of all the signs 179 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:21.799 of the zodiac, and I would say planetary symbolism literally 180 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.440 comes from the same place, and it's a northern polar 181 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:29.240 sort of dynamic in my opinion, right, And so this 182 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.399 has to do with the fact that everything is expressed 183 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.360 from a center and then returns back to that center. 184 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.440 So there is a world axis. 185 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.639 Northern polar correspondence with all of the planets, with all 186 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:43.600 of the signs, and I would even say by extension, 187 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.000 I'm really seeing that that might be the case with 188 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:51.519 all constellations. Basically, it's no different than a ripple in 189 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:53.559 a pond, right, you drop a pebble in a pond. 190 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.600 Everything emanates from the center and kind of goes outward. 191 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.559 I think that that is what we were dealing with 192 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.960 in primordial times, is a lot of symbolism was concentrated 193 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.799 in the northern sky. People had this reverence for it, 194 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.360 and then everything kind of expanded outward, and there is 195 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.240 this sort of symbolic migration away from the center, right. 196 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.279 And so I think that this is sort of an 197 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.399 interesting sort of detail here that the hidden sepharroath once 198 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.919 again corresponds with the north, which takes you to the 199 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.720 other side. Which is interesting too, because when we're dealing 200 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.759 with the feminine, you know, we're talking about like vessel 201 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.360 symbolism and the womb and everything else. And you can 202 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.919 make the case that the circle up top kind of 203 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.840 symbolically carries some of that symbolism. And so there's something 204 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:39.080 very precious sort of within that circle, right, this sepharroath 205 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:42.399 that's very transcendental and is along the lines of that 206 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.679 middle pillar. So if you go to the next lide, 207 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.600 you'll see that this is just a traditional tree of 208 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.120 life sort of set up right the three pillars, the 209 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.759 central pillar being the transcendental pillar. You can see the 210 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.720 hidden sepharroath right there. You can imagine just what I 211 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.679 just showed you right the venus glyph itself be right there. 212 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.200 And so we're talking about the feminine. We're talking about 213 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.759 a lot of symbolism that has to do with the 214 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.519 number five actually, and so if you go to the 215 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.919 next slide, we're dealing with the fifth card of the 216 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.159 major ocana, which is ruled by Taurus. And so this 217 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.120 is the hyerpin card or the Pope card. And I 218 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:23.840 just did a presentation about all of this, as I mentioned, 219 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:28.159 and basically the pope is right there in between the 220 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.120 two pillars, and so he represents that sort of central axis. 221 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.320 And what I said in the presentation too, is I'm 222 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.720 really seeing it now that he is. I think all 223 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:45.039 pilgrimage locations basically represent like a vertical axis pretty much 224 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:49.039 connecting Heaven and Earth together, and he is sort of 225 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.039 an embodiment of like a living, breathing sort of vertical 226 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:57.879 axis pretty much. And so of course the pope gets 227 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:01.559 replaced or the pope gets transition out as they pass 228 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.720 and everything else, and so this living embodiment of this 229 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:06.960 central axis, right, So I think that makes a lot 230 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.120 of sense because what he really represents is he's a bridge. 231 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.360 And so that's what Pontiffect's Maximus represents, is he's the 232 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:17.480 ultimate bridge builder, and so he's the bridge between Heaven 233 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.519 and Earth essentially, or the bridge even between you know, 234 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:22.320 the people and God, if you want to put it 235 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.799 that way. But he's always been associated with being the 236 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.159 keeper of the keys, right, and so even like the 237 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:33.639 official like emblem for the Pope is cross keys, a 238 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.720 golden key and a silver key, and this can represent 239 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.799 the golden gate and silver gate. There's a whole deep 240 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.639 dive weave that we can get into later about all 241 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.759 of that. I also think it's interesting one of the 242 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:47.639 things in the presentation that I broke down was the 243 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.000 papal cross, and how the papal cross it almost just 244 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:55.480 reminds me of the lines that break up the four 245 00:12:55.960 --> 00:13:01.080 different levels of the trio life, right, the four different 246 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.320 worlds of the tree, and then you have that central 247 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.879 sort of axis breaking it as well. And so in 248 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.720 the presentation it makes way more sense. But he is 249 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.559 the keeper of the keys, and he is the guardian 250 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:14.759 of this gate. So when you have the two pillars, 251 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.720 there's an implied doorway or gateway there, and he's throned, 252 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.840 and to be throwned is way more feminine, you know, 253 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:23.960 in my opinion. So what I've been saying for a 254 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.519 while now is that I have a strong inclination to 255 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:32.480 think that thrown symbolism actually belongs more to the goddess 256 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.840 or to the feminine than the masculine, because it's more passive. 257 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:41.000 And so women are more passive in nature, They're more magnetic, 258 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:45.080 and so opportunities come to them, Suitors come to them, 259 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:46.879 you know, things come to them. They don't have to 260 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.559 go anywhere. It's more in man's nature to have to 261 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:53.600 go out and seek and sort of conquest and journey 262 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.440 and bring home the bacon. If you will and if 263 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.879 you want to, like a really simple sort of metaphor 264 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.120 for this is you just look at our sex organs. 265 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:07.240 You know, the phallus is projective an outward and it's 266 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.000 the original wand, if you will, And the wand really 267 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:14.519 is about energy being sent forth. And then even the 268 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:18.039 sperm cells of man they travel and they go into 269 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.279 foreign lands to inseminate the egg. On the other hand, 270 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.159 the woman is more receptive, and so she receives right, 271 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.639 and so the egg stays within her confines in order 272 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.159 for her to get pregnant. And so that's kind of 273 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:39.159 the basic difference traditionally between masculine projective symbolism feminine receptive symbolism. 274 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.279 So I see it that when a king or a hirophant, 275 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.000 or the emperor or a lord or something is sitting 276 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.440 on a throne, he's actually emulating the feminine. And this 277 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:55.240 makes sense here because he actually corresponds with venus. And 278 00:14:55.399 --> 00:15:00.159 I even believe now my understanding is that and this 279 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.120 idea of sort of guarding a gateway actually belongs more 280 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.679 to the feminine as well. And so this is why 281 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:10.399 you see Lady Justice. It's a woman holding a sword 282 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:14.320 and then holding the scales right, And she too is 283 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.440 sitting in between two pillars in the tarot, right, the 284 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:22.360 justice card. And so woman is really sort of she's 285 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.360 more of a judge than anything else, more than man 286 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:29.399 at least, because she has to judge and gauge what 287 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:34.159 partners she wants to potentially connect with, or couple with 288 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:35.080 or have children with. 289 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:35.399 Right. 290 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.799 Men have a very different perspective on things, So men 291 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.679 can be attracted to many different types of women and 292 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:42.279 everything else. 293 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.360 But it's really the woman who is the. 294 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.240 Guardian of her gateway, which is the real gateway into 295 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.600 this reality, basically, right. And so there's a lot of 296 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.960 symbolism with that, with the true guardian of the gate 297 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.200 is actually feminine. And if you want to go to 298 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:59.120 the next slide, it's interesting that some of the earliest 299 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:05.320 Hirofint cards in existence show a female pope actually, right, 300 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.080 And so there's even a whole story. I don't know 301 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:09.919 all the details, but I've read about it before, but 302 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:11.000 I believe her name. 303 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:15.000 Is Pope Joan, Yeah, right, Do you know what any 304 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.279 thing about her? By chance? Any any details? 305 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:22.240 Yeah, she came to the throne and there was a 306 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.600 lot of problems with her being a female, and then 307 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.960 there are some other stories about females that have come 308 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.600 and been enthrone that acted as though they were men 309 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.320 and then you know, get found out, you know. But yeah, 310 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.080 there's it's been a while since, but yeah, I'm familiar 311 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:43.679 with Pope Jones for sure. 312 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.879 Right right, are you guys aware of the I don't 313 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.320 know if it's still in use, but I have seen 314 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.159 photos of it. But the chair that supposedly the pope 315 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.240 has to sit in, or prospective pope has to sit in, 316 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.600 so that all everyone else in the conclave, I guess 317 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.119 can inspect his genitalia to make sure that he's actually 318 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.039 a male. It almost looks like it's like a wooden 319 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.119 chair that has an opening at the bottom, and you know, 320 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:14.160 people can google it or whatever. But determining the sex 321 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.119 of the pope, I don't know if that was more 322 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:20.279 of a thing after Pope Jon or whatever. But it's 323 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:24.319 also interesting that the movie Conclave is in part about 324 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:29.200 this spoiler alert, But so that's a whole entire thing. 325 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.839 So the fact that there were these female popes early 326 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:36.519 on in Tarot history, I think is really fascinating for sure, 327 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.799 and just speaks to it to me, this venus connection 328 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.640 and even too. What I'll say is that Taurus, my 329 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.039 understanding of it is that we're seeing a very sort 330 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:52.200 of masculine solar version of Taurus these days. When most 331 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:55.359 people illustrate Taurus or think of Taurus, they think of 332 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:59.319 a mighty bull, you know, almost ready to charge, or 333 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.559 looking very aggressive or angry or something along these lines. 334 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.559 And my understanding is that it actually used to be 335 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:09.720 more of the feminine cow early on. And what's kind 336 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:15.759 of happened is a lot of animals during their respective age, 337 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.480 they're looked at in one way during the age itself. 338 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:23.119 So the age of Taurus, the bowl, minunderstanding is that 339 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.240 it was more so revered, put on a pedestal, more 340 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.799 positive connotations, things like that. And then once the age 341 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:32.559 of Taurus came and went and we were now in 342 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.880 the age of Aries, that same bowl is sort of 343 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.400 sacrificial in nature. And so you have mythrist slaying the 344 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:43.480 cosmic bowl as an example, right or there tends to 345 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.279 be more like this demonic sort of thing associated with that, 346 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.279 and so that aggression or that masculine sort of energy 347 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.640 tends to come out a bit more. And so anyway, 348 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.039 for what it's worth, I thought I would mention that well. 349 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.400 Also, I was going to say, as far as different 350 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:01.200 females that have been in throne, if you go back 351 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:06.160 into Babylon, some of the queens of Babylon were far 352 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.319 stronger than the kings, and they were more known for 353 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:14.119 building the edifices, the big pyramids. And then you get 354 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:18.079 into Kibbili, you know, and she was a queen that 355 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.279 was enthroned that basically rode on a cart pulled by lions, 356 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:23.480 and so. 357 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.039 Some of the oldest When you. 358 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:32.000 Get back into the more Mediterranean, more Asian like cultures, 359 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:36.799 you have a lot more divine, feminine propagators that are 360 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:38.599 over the male propagators. 361 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, and it just makes all the 362 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.880 sense in the world. So yeah, I mean, even to 363 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.640 your point too, a lot of these early queens, and 364 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.640 actually a lot of queen symbolism and goddess symbolism a 365 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.000 lot of times is closely related to the lion, and 366 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.599 that the lion is either pulling their chariot or is 367 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:02.119 embedded into the throne itself or flanks the throne or 368 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.160 something like that. And I just think it's really interesting 369 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.759 that Leo is right next to Virgo, and so Virgo 370 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:12.480 the queen of heaven, right, the stellar virgin, And so 371 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.759 there's this interesting relationship that I've noticed with that. It's 372 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.839 almost kind of like the feminine authority over the masculine. 373 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.079 You know, the lion being a solar line related to 374 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.480 the sun and things like that, and that's what you 375 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.519 actually see in the Strength guard. You see a woman 376 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.000 taming a lion, right, It's almost like mother and child. 377 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:31.960 So that's kind of what I see with the Strength 378 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.920 card is you're actually seeing a representation of two signs there, 379 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:40.240 Virgo and then Leo. But yeah, if you want to 380 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.960 cruise to the next slide, it's just the Mercury glyph. 381 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.599 But just wanted to show you that all you have 382 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.279 to do is add horns to the Venus glyph and 383 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:50.160 then you have Mercury. 384 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:51.000 Very interesting. 385 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:54.400 And then also if you just remove the cross down below, 386 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.720 now you actually have the glyph for Taurus itself, right, 387 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:59.599 which is ruled by Venus. 388 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:02.960 So even the glyph itself. 389 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:06.640 Right, I mean the simple horns you know, on one hand, yeah, 390 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:10.359 you could say, and it is. It's both masculine and feminine. 391 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.519 It's both yang and yin you know horn you think 392 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.640 of horny, right, again the phallus or an erection or 393 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.599 something along these lines. And then you also have it 394 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:23.680 though it's a vessel, right, it's also a crescent moon. 395 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:24.680 Yeah, exactly right. 396 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:28.720 And there's so much lunar symbolism with Taurus as well. 397 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:31.160 That's interesting. The cow that jumped over the moon I 398 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.640 think of as an example, or I think of the 399 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.480 fact that people have had this sort of thing saying 400 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.200 that the moon is made out of cheese. Where do 401 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:43.680 you get cheese from milk? And so even too with 402 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:47.119 the cow symbolism. The cow has been referred to as 403 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:50.039 like the second mother of mankind in certain parts of 404 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.799 the world, like in India, and it's because you get 405 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.759 so much from the cow and it asks so little. 406 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.599 So it's really a giver, right, This animal gives and 407 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:03.920 gives and gives, and even just exactly even just milk itself. 408 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.039 From milk you get cheese and yogurt and ghee and all. 409 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:08.680 These other things. 410 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:13.160 But then also you know, the hide itself, if that's 411 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.559 how that country rolls or that those people, if that's 412 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.559 what they choose to do, and then obviously meat and 413 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.960 protein from there, and you know, then it helps on 414 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.119 the farm. And then there's uses for the dung and 415 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.599 everything else, and so on a physical level, it gives 416 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.160 and gives and gives. But this also kind of parallels 417 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:35.759 a spiritual dynamic as well, and that it actually there's 418 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:37.920 like a grace and there's a presence to the cow 419 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:40.000 and the bowl and everything else. So there's things to 420 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.720 learn even outside of just taking you know, from it. 421 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.839 But there's a huge, huge weave too with the V. 422 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.039 If you want to go to the next slide. Here 423 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:54.200 we're talking about venus, So we're talking about the V. 424 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.720 The V is a very powerful letter in so many ways. 425 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:01.599 One of the first things I think about is the 426 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:07.160 fact that the receptive elements their glyph is a downward triangle. 427 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.160 So water is just a downward triangle. Earth is a 428 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.839 downward triangle with a line through it. Air is an 429 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.000 upward triangle with a line, and then fire is an 430 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.920 upward triangle. So the receptive feminine downward triangle. Right, So 431 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:24.519 it even looks like a little vessel. 432 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:25.359 Right. 433 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.279 I even think of the yoni, or I think of 434 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.079 the vagina, starts with the V. 435 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.839 Right. Also, when you look at go ahead. 436 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:35.640 I was going to say, as well as aspects of 437 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:37.480 water it's as far as. 438 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:43.480 The wines exactly. Yeah, you totally got it. And so 439 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.839 even Vagina you have that V right there. But uh, 440 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:52.160 the Taurus constellation. When you look at Taurus again ruled 441 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.519 by Venus, you see this gigantic V. That is the 442 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.519 most prominent feature of the Taurus constellation. If anyone here 443 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.640 is a star gazer, and so you see a gigantic V. 444 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.119 And then you see a really large star and that's 445 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:09.799 one of its eyes, which is Aldebaran or al Debaron. 446 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.759 I also think it's interesting too that that specific star 447 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.640 has a lot of symbolism associated with like the Vrill 448 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:23.440 society and like the lore associated with the vril. And 449 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.559 here we're dealing with the V again, even with Vril, 450 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:29.240 which to me, when I think of Ril, I think 451 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.240 of another aspect of ether or spirit, which would be 452 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.880 the fifth element, which is also Roman numeral five, which 453 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.000 is a V as well. And we're dealing with the 454 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.480 fifth card of the major o'conna, so Roman numeral five 455 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.000 right there. So the V weave is super super strong, 456 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.240 very feminine in a lot of ways. And if we 457 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.920 go to the next slide, we'll see that if you 458 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.720 double it up, now you have a W right from 459 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:05.920 V to W and w we have words like water, womb, woman, right, which, 460 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:09.279 and so there's a lot of feminine words. 461 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.640 That associate with the W. And then if you just. 462 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.599 Flip that and this is getting really close, uh Robbie 463 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.440 with the water right, the zigzag of. 464 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.680 The water the exactly exactly. 465 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.519 Yeah, So you flip it like in the next slide, 466 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:28.960 and then now you have an M. 467 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.680 Yeah. So ma. 468 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.799 It's like universal amongst babies, you know, it's almost like instinctual, 469 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:44.480 I think. And so mom has two ms mother, matter, matrix. 470 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:50.839 These are like feminine words basically mem water, Yeah, yeah, 471 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.480 totally right there. 472 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.720 I'm pretty sure it's ma in Arabic means water. 473 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.000 Okay, there you go. It makes perfect sense, man, yeah, exactly. 474 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:01.880 There is so many of those. 475 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.079 Go ahead, Oh, I was just gonna back that all 476 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:11.319 up in so many dozens of different languages. MA is 477 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:16.920 the feminine mother expression term. And and in looking into it, 478 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.319 it might be something else, but that it also might 479 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:24.759 be that is the first annunciation that we make that 480 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.119 we're capable of and so all, and so it might 481 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:32.079 be that not that that's not amazing in and of itself, 482 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:35.559 but but you're you're right, it's very much reflective in 483 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.480 the may Trix, the Ma tricks, from which, as you do, 484 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.319 not the creation. 485 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:43.079 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 486 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.200 Well, one of the things that's been pointed out to 487 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.000 me is that when you say something that starts with 488 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:53.759 an m hmm, it's internal as well. Right, so there's 489 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.079 like a receptive feminine sort of quality with MM as well, 490 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.519 versus like dah for dad. Do you know, does anyone 491 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.440 here know if DA or Dad die is as? It 492 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.640 doesn't feel to me as universal as MA is. 493 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:12.440 It is related, I believe, but it's more Pa Pa. Okay, 494 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.079 there you go, right, as it's shifted into English, it's 495 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.160 a DA, but very similar of course, Papa Pa. 496 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:20.519 There you go. 497 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.839 That makes sense. Well there we I mean that's completely 498 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:28.720 related to even to the Pope and some etymological words 499 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.200 that kind of relate to Pope and and father and you. 500 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:36.039 Know, the very similar energetically to your idea of the 501 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:41.079 externalizing and the internalizing of those tonations too. 502 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.319 Well, oh no, not at all. But also when you 503 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.240 look at mother Kibbli, who's directly related to Aphrodity, who 504 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:56.240 is essentially Venus. Her consort was Addis and in the mountains, 505 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.960 they would call him pa or Papa or papa. So 506 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.440 and that goes back ten twelve thousand, you know BC. 507 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.640 Right, right, yeah, totally. 508 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:13.839 So we got here from the V right Venus. And 509 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:18.079 so let's look at the next slide. And to me, 510 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.200 this information is so mind blowing. It's still very novel 511 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.759 to me, even though I've seen it so many times now. 512 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.880 But Venus, over the course of eight years makes a 513 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.759 five pointed star from the perspective of Earth, and this 514 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.400 is what it looks like right here. And so there's 515 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.319 no other planet that has this sort of cycle or 516 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.480 makes this. This is referred to as the Venus rose 517 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.920 or the Venus pentagram, right, or the pentacle of Venus, 518 00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:49.160 something along those lines. And so again this weave of 519 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.440 five Roman numeral five v higher fit five is completely 520 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.440 like multi layered and encoded. So I had to bring 521 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.000 it up. So you go to the next slide, the 522 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.519 next couple, you'll just see variations on the same thing, 523 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.400 basically showing you different ways in which you can kind 524 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:09.759 of illustrate this. So it's sometimes referred to as the 525 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.759 kiss of Venus as well. And so the number five 526 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.480 and the pentacle really really amazing stuff. I mean, the 527 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.279 mathematics and sacred geometry behind it is pretty mind blowing 528 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.839 as well. And if you go to the next slide, 529 00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.119 you can maybe breeze past this one and then just 530 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.920 go to there you go the Ace of Pentacles, right. 531 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.839 So in the tarot, it's basically a tradition to have 532 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:39.519 the coin to be represented with this star right on 533 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.079 the coin itself. And so this really says quite a bit. 534 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.599 In the thought deck, these are called discs, which I 535 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.640 think is interesting too because there's almost now when I 536 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.359 see it or think about it, this disc it kind 537 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.079 of just reminds me of like Earth in some ways personally, 538 00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.960 you know, maybe from like an ancient cosmological sort of 539 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:03.799 perspective or something that. But we put this glyph where 540 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:08.640 we put this icon on this coin, and in my opinion, 541 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.240 a lot of times when you are looking at a pentacle, 542 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.759 you are looking essentially at a reference, almost a direct 543 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.680 reference to Venus, right, And so because of this sort 544 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.319 of dynamic, and so it's also encoding the five elements. 545 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.519 As I mentioned earlier, we obviously as humans have five 546 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:31.400 main appendages. Five fingers. Oh, pretty interesting as well as 547 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.160 it relates to the number five and Venusian sorts of things. 548 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:40.680 The average menstrual cycle is like five days basically, and 549 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:44.160 so even like when we refer to like a period 550 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.480 of time, the period like has a reference to this, 551 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.400 and also has this kind of subtle reference to like 552 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.599 the number five as well. So I think that's kind 553 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.640 of like an amazing sort of set of like coincidences 554 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.720 or what have you, synchronicities. But the five point it's 555 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.480 stall are, it's the star. It's the quintessential star, right, 556 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.839 and so the quintessence too is related to this as well. 557 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.839 But it's the quintessential star. It's the star that we 558 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.400 all draw as children. And if you look at any 559 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.240 work of art for the most part, you know, not 560 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:20.200 all the time, but a lot of times, just the 561 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.920 average star in the piece. If there's going to be 562 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.519 like a blanket of stars, you know, it's not uncommon 563 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.119 for it to just be a five pointed star. So 564 00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.680 decoding sort of the sacred geometry behind it, I think 565 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.759 makes sense. So if you want to go to the 566 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.559 next slide, we'll just see a pretty standard pentacle there, 567 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.079 and it's the proportions of where these lines intersect that's 568 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.200 really significant. 569 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.720 So if you go to the next slide, the pent 570 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.319 alpha mm hmm. 571 00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:54.960 So this ratio right here is really really important and 572 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.319 relates to the golden ratio. And so if you go 573 00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.640 to the next slide, there's these calipers that you can 574 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.880 buy that will retain and keep the golden ratio. And 575 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.480 so it's one point six one eight to one. And 576 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.240 so my understanding is even like our bones, you know, 577 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.480 they're able to unfurl and kind of curl up into 578 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.720 themselves because of this dynamic right here. And so if 579 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.839 you have calipers like that, it kind of encourages you 580 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.359 to start measuring all these things and start seeing where 581 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.279 this sort of like ratio actually exists. And so because 582 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.759 of this ratio, if you want to go to the 583 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.680 next slide, you'll see that it's related to the golden 584 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.799 spiral basically. And so from like the left square to 585 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.759 the right square the upper right square, that ratio is 586 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.720 retained right and so because of that, you can literally 587 00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.880 have this perpetual spiral that just goes. 588 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.640 On and on and on and on and on, and 589 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.720 that ratio completely stays intact. 590 00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.440 So this golden spiral ratio is act actually embedded into 591 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.440 the normal five pointed star that we're all sort of 592 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.240 familiar with, and because of that, the five pointed star 593 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.000 pentacle has all of these interesting properties too, Like if 594 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.039 you go to the next slide, you'll see that you 595 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.480 can basically line up these stars right and there's this 596 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:22.200 just perfect tapering sort of dynamic that again goes on 597 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.720 and on and on and on and so my opinion, 598 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.559 basically when you really start decoding everything, is that the 599 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.680 five pointed star, and by extension, like the number five itself, 600 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.079 it is also a bridge. Symbolically, it's a symbolic bridge, 601 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.480 which is why it matches so perfectly with the Hierfink 602 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.880 card the Pope card, because it's a bridge between the 603 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.240 material realm and the spiritual realm, in my opinion, and 604 00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.960 that's basically sort of what it encodes, and that's why 605 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.519 the fifth element is also related to spirit. I see 606 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.400 it that this is all pretty much like it all 607 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:03.319 culminates together and speaks to the symbolism of Venus and 608 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:08.519 the Hyrophin card and the pentacle and everything else. It 609 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.719 exists between sort of these two spaces the same way 610 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.079 I would even say, perhaps that it exists between our 611 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.400 base ten sequence right in the middle right, So it's 612 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.679 almost like a symbolic bridge from the earlier numbers to 613 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.000 the later numbers. With that, so a lot of the 614 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.920 five cards in the tarot kind of represent like a 615 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.960 struggle or some sort of setback in some way. But 616 00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.239 I see it more so as like actually a threshold 617 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.000 something you have to cross through right in order to 618 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.639 get sort of sort of to the next place or 619 00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.880 the next plane or whatever you want to say. And 620 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.039 these sort of setbacks and struggles which a lot of 621 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.400 the five cards associate with, that's what makes us who 622 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.880 we are. It actually makes us completely stronger. And every 623 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.519 single berth or rebirth is like messy. It's not a clean, simple, 624 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.440 straightforward thing, in my opinion. And so there's this sort 625 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:10.079 of threshold gateway dynamic that's inherently related to the shape. 626 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:11.360 And if you want to go to. 627 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.239 I just I just thought that the one eight number, 628 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.119 of course, represents symbolically exactly what you just said, the 629 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.119 creative and the linking of the individual with the spiritual, 630 00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:32.000 the one individual, there's nothingness and then there's the infinites 631 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.320 And also it's interesting to point out that there's another 632 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.599 number that kind of suggests something at least symbolically value 633 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.320 in there. If you add the thirty six to the 634 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.559 oneh eight you get one four, which is really powerful number. 635 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.320 So excuse me for interrupting, but I thought that you 636 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.079 were going yeah. 637 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.320 Also, I was going to say, when you go back, 638 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.800 they used to call it the druten foot, the druid foot, 639 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.960 the witch's foot, and then it was all It was 640 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:08.239 the earliest, uh like seal for the city of Jerusalem, 641 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.039 as far as they go back in the records. And 642 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:15.679 it was also the magical schedule that Solomon had on 643 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.159 his ring that he used to some of the various 644 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.639 gin and miscellaneous forces. 645 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.119 Gotcha, gotcha, yeah, yeah, no, for sure. 646 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.719 Have you guys ever heard the I've seen him on 647 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.719 like on reels of stuff where it's like, I don't 648 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:32.400 know how true it is. 649 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.320 I don't have a measuring tape this big, but it 650 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.239 says that, uh that you can fit one hundred and 651 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.400 eight moons in the into in the size of Earth, 652 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.280 and you can fit one hundred and eight earths into 653 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.599 the size of the sun and all these things. 654 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:45.880 So one and one o eight. 655 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:47.880 Is the degrees of a pentagram, and it is a 656 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.119 number used a lot even in baseball, not to throw cavetballs. 657 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:56.480 But in baseball, home plate is a pentagram, yep. And 658 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.480 every baseball, every baseball is made with a hundred and 659 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:01.320 eight stitches. 660 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.960 Yeah, that is that one hundred and eight. The moon's 661 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.119 in between the Earth and the moon, and no, no, 662 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.079 it's so it's you know that. And the one hundred 663 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.360 and eight suns in between the Earth and the Sun 664 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.440 is an approximation, but it because of the nature of 665 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.599 the orbit, of course, and it's not so it's not exact, 666 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.679 and it is never exact, but it is very close, 667 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.519 and it does hint that it's kind of has this 668 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:38.679 scientific creative force to it because you could almost find 669 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.599 I forget what they call it, but the the area 670 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.000 around a sun where there is potential life. You could 671 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.679 almost deduce it via this one hundred and eight mathematics 672 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.880 via any sun I forget what. 673 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.280 It's called, that this ring Goldilock zone. 674 00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.360 Exactly exactly, so you could almost you could almost use 675 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.400 one one way to find the Goldilocks son with stars. 676 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:05.599 I love this. 677 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.079 Sorry, Maria good I just wanted to say that in Buddhism, 678 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.119 we use the one hundred and eight beads on our malas, 679 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.960 and it also represents the one hundred and eight affliction. 680 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.559 So there's one hundred and eight worldly desires. I guess 681 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.840 you could say that you have to overcome before you 682 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:29.280 can go higher. I guess, thank gotcha, Yeah I did. 683 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:30.880 One is also reminded me too. 684 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.119 Oh go ahead, Nick, I did want to just ad 685 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:33.559 real quick. 686 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:34.880 It was something that you had mentioned with like the 687 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.920 pentagram and Venus and all that, something that I think 688 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.320 just interested me because I was thinking about the kabbala. 689 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:46.559 The rose kabbalistically is an image for netsuck, which would 690 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.679 be Venus, and then there you go, and then the 691 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.679 fifth sphere, which would be good borrow of symbol for 692 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.920 that can be a five pedal rose, which then is 693 00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.360 also universally used as a pentagram as well. 694 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.519 I've seen mm hmmm. So I mean you do kind 695 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.639 of see a tie. I think, I mean. 696 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:10.320 Well, the mind, Yeah, the mind calendar. You have five ages. 697 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:14.679 You look at the rosicrucion rose, there's five pedals. The 698 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.159 Lutheran rose has five pedals. You see this consistent pinta 699 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.960 appearing through all these different philosophies. 700 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.119 Yeah, well, it is also interesting to go off. What 701 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.000 Nick said is that that path twenty two on the 702 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:33.639 tree between Goevera and Tiffert that can also be represented 703 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:37.280 in a row. So it's like some people describe it 704 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.800 as like the axial joint is from like tiffer It 705 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.480 to Netsac, so there's like a path there as well, 706 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.079 but that's really where the light from Goeverra sort of 707 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.280 passes through. Now there's other models that will say straight 708 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.079 from Geverra to Netsc there's a relationship, and there might be, 709 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.039 just there's different obviously different kinds of cosmologies. 710 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.719 And then G is the twenty second letter. 711 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:01.639 That's right. 712 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.280 Oh nice, Yeah, that is another thing I do want 713 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:06.840 to mention too that you just said, Jenn with the 714 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.719 with net Suck and Goodbor, I mean a connection. I 715 00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:13.760 would assume that there is, and I do think there is, 716 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.159 but take too long probably. 717 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:16.480 To get into that. 718 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.400 But just a simple way, just if you were to 719 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.480 look at how you make talismans up, I think, even 720 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.239 going back to Agrippa him be suggesting it that if 721 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.800 you're making a venus talisman, your flesh and color, the 722 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.679 mean color you're gonna use is green and your flashing 723 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.480 color is going to be red, which goes back to 724 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.679 Gobora and Mars again and Mars, if you make a talisman, 725 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.360 it's going to be red and the flesh and color 726 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.960 will be green because there is a relationship somewhere in 727 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:41.800 there between those two spheres. 728 00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.119 Right, and remember that for when mind slugs come up, 729 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:46.559 because I didn't take it from you. 730 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:51.920 Uh wow, good stuff. 731 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.920 So I was just reading prepping for the show that 732 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.840 the mind calendar, as you mentioned Robbie, has this pentaquality 733 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.840 to it, and my understanding is that it directly comes 734 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.960 from Venus. Yeah, that's kind of how they gauged everything, apparently, 735 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:09.760 that specific aspect of it. 736 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.480 And then you start to get into the ideas of 737 00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:16.079 the morning and the evening star and the sexuality versus 738 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:21.400 the war. This is probably one of the deeper subject 739 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.559 matters in regard to planet when you start looking at 740 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.280 the symbolism of the cosmology itself. 741 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:32.000 Yeah, no, I completely agree with you for sure. Other 742 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.039 thing I was going to mention too, is even with 743 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.880 the five pedaled rows, right, like the tudor rose is 744 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.960 another example or what it's kind of sometimes called, but 745 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.519 that's right in the middle of the rosy cross, right. 746 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.159 Sometimes it could be a different like sort of rose 747 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.559 or whatever, but oftentimes it's just a five pedaled rose 748 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.320 right in the middle. And to me that's interesting as well, 749 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.599 because when you're dealing with the cross, you're dealing with 750 00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.480 four the four quadrants or for the four lines emanating 751 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.079 from the center, and so that center point where the 752 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.639 vertical axis and horizontal axis meet, that would be the 753 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:05.719 fifth point right there. 754 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.960 And you have the rose itself, which is the upper 755 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.800 sphere of the heavens, and then you have the like 756 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.719 the rosy cross, it's on the cross, which is that 757 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.760 lower cross. So it's giving you again the glyph of Venus. 758 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.960 Yeah, yeah, totally, no, exactly awesome. And then related to green, 759 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:27.440 I just have to bring this up too. So if 760 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.599 Taurus is fixed Earth, it's right in the middle of spring, right, 761 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.880 And I personally, I don't know if I've ever mentioned 762 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.360 it to you guys. I see like a pretty layered 763 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:43.760 weave between the number four, the Emperor card which corresponds 764 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.800 with aries, and the cross being related to the four, 765 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.039 and then also Christianity, and then I see with the 766 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.800 higher fint being related to the five, and then the 767 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.719 pentacle and then Venus as well, and I see that 768 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.039 as some in all a lot of ways actually being 769 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.199 related to Islam, which I think is kind of random seemingly, 770 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.920 but they pray five times a day, there's five of the. 771 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.079 Yeah, Islam is one hundred percent dedicated to Venus when 772 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.480 you when you get into it, it's right, and then 773 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.960 the Christians of the Sun, and then the Judaic philosophy 774 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.480 is to Saturn. You know, these are distinctions within each 775 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.199 of the philosophical you know, directions. 776 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:34.400 Because even the glyph and I know Islam traditionally like 777 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:39.119 doesn't have symbols and they're anti sort of like graphic 778 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.320 or anti symbolic in some ways visual visual iconography. But 779 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.440 if we're going to pick a symbol, right, exactly, if 780 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.039 we're going to pick a symbol that represents Islam, it 781 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.480 would be the five pointed star inside the crescent moon. Yeah, yeah, 782 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.119 for sure, for sure, yeah exactly. So it is and 783 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.800 it's green, which is why I was bringing it up. Yeah, 784 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.360 because you brought it up. But what I see actually, oh, 785 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:03.079 go ahead. 786 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.280 I'll just say it's representing like when Venus and the 787 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.079 moon are in the same sign, and so because that's 788 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.079 how that can happen when it's in the same sign 789 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.159 and it's in the right, crescent happens. I don't, I 790 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.199 don't keep track of it, but it does happen almost 791 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.719 every year. 792 00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:20.599 Yeah, And it gets into this you know, esoteric link 793 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.440 between Venus and the moon that you constantly see coming 794 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.320 up as you go down this the pass of these 795 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:29.400 these subjects. 796 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.960 And I believe that the Venus is seen as a crescent, right, 797 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:36.920 So it might they might call it a crescent moon, 798 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.599 but yes, it might be just Venus. 799 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.519 And I guess all year round when you view Venus, uh, 800 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.840 it's always a crescent moon, just because of the nature 801 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.599 of how it sits in the heavens. 802 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:50.199 Right right, yeah, exactly. 803 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.519 So what I was going to say is regarding the 804 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.079 sort of third pillar here with Judaism, I'm going in 805 00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.400 order in the tarot. So the fourth card Emperor ares 806 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.880 cross Christianity, fifth card Islam with everything we just discussed, 807 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.239 and then the sixth card is the lovers, and so 808 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.119 you're dealing with Gemini the twin pillars, just like in 809 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:13.920 front of Solomon's temple, just like in front of a 810 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:19.000 lot of synagogues, you know, and then that's ruled by mercury, right, 811 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.960 And so I see a mercurial sort of thing. There, 812 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.679 and because we're dealing with the sixth card, we're also 813 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.880 dealing with the six pointed star now, which is the 814 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.519 star of David. And so it makes me wonder if 815 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.280 there's this mega weave between the fourth, fifth, and sixth 816 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.519 card of the major econa and then Christianity, Islam, and 817 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:36.320 then Judaism. 818 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.039 So, for what it's worth, I have something to add 819 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.880 to that on numbers with the five and the six, 820 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.480 which I do think that the sixth adds to the 821 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:45.320 venus as well. 822 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:46.360 Well. 823 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.039 For one, you could say May sixth would be the 824 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.440 very middle of tourist season, so like if you were 825 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.760 to kind of just a fifteen degrees taurus, that's usually 826 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:59.159 around May sixth. And then the fifty sixth prime number 827 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.079 is two two hundred and sixty three. Venus stays in 828 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.679 the sky, is visible in the sky two hundred and sixty. 829 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:07.559 Three days out of the year. 830 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.840 Oh wow, yeah, so they and that has to the 831 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.000 number fifty six in the five to six. I learned 832 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.960 that because contemporary problems equals to sixty three. And then 833 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.440 I went down a rabbit hole learned all that. So 834 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.039 I'm connected to this as well, I guess. 835 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.280 Nice, Yeah, damn that's a good one, man. 836 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.480 Yeah, cool, all right. 837 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.400 If I oh, sorry, no, please, I just want to 838 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:35.119 complicate the sort of cabalistic association with the religions. So 839 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:39.280 for me, Islam has a very Gavautic quality because if 840 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.599 you read Sufi mysticism, it's all about the fire of annihilation. 841 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.800 That's why they even pray with their hands facing their face, 842 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.800 is because it's like they don't want to selve. It's 843 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.320 like self, it's like to burn away in the fire 844 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.440 of God. That's the whole idea. But I agree with 845 00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:01.199 Robbie that there is definitely a relationship with Venus or nutsc. 846 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.079 I have also noticed this and obviously the kabba and 847 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:11.079 there's clearly some feminine essence there and the way that works. 848 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.199 And they also go counterclockwise around the kaba. Well right, 849 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:19.800 obviously sugar, I call it shukra, but Venus obviously rotates counterclockwise. 850 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:24.480 So so right right, yeah, you know the other thing 851 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.760 I'll just say, and I don't know, I mean, it 852 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.480 seems like it's pretty obscure, but. 853 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.000 I have seen some works of art from the Middle. 854 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:39.480 East and they're like Islamic origin story sort of like 855 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.119 paintings and it's a cow holding earth basically, which I 856 00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:45.880 thought was really interesting as well. And then also too, 857 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:51.119 there's like a clear sort of like nomadic influence on 858 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.079 Islam as well, and nomads have a different relationship with 859 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:56.679 cattle as well. 860 00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:57.840 Which I think is kind of interesting. 861 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.159 And so just all of these things combined, but it's 862 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.840 clearly a feminine sort of thing. Even the Kaba cube 863 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:04.840 is like the house of the Mother and they put 864 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.079 a veil on it. That's the kiss walk, and so 865 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.599 the the and then just the hijab and or the 866 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.039 burka and everything else too. It's just like it's very 867 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.039 clear that there's this feminine correspondence there. 868 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:18.039 Yeah, in the corner you have a physical silver representation 869 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:22.639 of a vagina that has the meteorites that are encased 870 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:26.159 in it that are representative of the mother goddess. 871 00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:30.559 Well, it is interesting to consider the kabba, as I've said, 872 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:35.239 as a cube of rock, because in Islamic text they 873 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.840 definitely prefer the gin so dj I and not Mine, 874 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.800 the gin of the Sun, who is depicted as very 875 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.559 similar to the mythic god An, who is also in 876 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.159 the piranhas as Naram Simha, an avatar of Vishna who 877 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.840 is tifferatic. So Robberie was saying, like, get Christianity prefers 878 00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.639 tifferate Well, I agree with that, but tiffer it's only 879 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:02.440 the six. It's only the superficial quality, the superficial sort 880 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.519 of illumination. Right, it's just the golden vessel. Right, there's 881 00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:12.400 an idea in Pico that really Christianity very strongly prefers hesse. 882 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.480 Like Mario was saying, excuse me, and it's so Jupiter 883 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.239 because it's that four. It's that like the sprinkling of 884 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:24.159 the waters of Jupiter. It's the pacification of governor pacification 885 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:29.599 of Mars. So, but four is really especially in Christian 886 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.480 cabala but also in a kind of Jewish cabala as well. Yeah, 887 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.400 I said, is is ever expansive? You can just ever 888 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.840 draw from it. It's just it's unlimited, infinite in quality. 889 00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.960 I think there was actually some contrast at a point 890 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.480 in time where it did transfer from Jupiter to the Sun. 891 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.840 You know, as far as the Christian philosophy. 892 00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.599 Sure, because the four is really the because the suffer 893 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.920 of the Messianic religion. So it's like the Savior, like 894 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.800 the merciful Savior arises from the mass consciousness at the 895 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.840 ocean of Goeverra the ocean. You could also say of suffering. 896 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.000 That would be a very Buddhist way to describe it. 897 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:18.320 So like a savior arises and like has to obviously 898 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:20.639 it's different, like he has to climb through the tree. 899 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.960 But for them, and I think for a lot of 900 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.679 Christians that's sort of where they would say, Jesus arises. 901 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.719 Robbie just spitballing over here. But you know, what part 902 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:39.280 does heliocentrism have to play in that of the solar worship? 903 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.079 You know, and kind of this new correspondence, right. 904 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.800 It's it's interesting because Jupiter is God the Father when 905 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.559 you translate it, and like you slowly see this evolution, 906 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.719 and I think it has to do with the Titans 907 00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.199 being put down and the transition from the Greek into 908 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:02.480 the Roman religion, and you start to get this highly 909 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:09.760 heliocentric model that they're like melding Helios with Mythrus with. 910 00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:12.400 Who's the other one. 911 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.239 But if you go to Phrygia, there's these three thrones 912 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.599 that are side by side with kings on them, and 913 00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.119 they're linking all these kings as so you're seeing an 914 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:26.960 amalgamation of the different philosophies coming together and kind of 915 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:31.719 bringing forth this new solar kind of cult, Son Victus, 916 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.960 you know totally. 917 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:39.199 I wonder how much the this reformation, if you will, 918 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.239 that we're talking about has to do with the maintenance 919 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:52.599 or influence of monotheism or enforcement over everything else and 920 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.280 what could be the superior the Sun And that's who 921 00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.920 we're from and you have to worship us now, yeah, And. 922 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.039 It's trying to move within the Roman philosophy from that 923 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:10.800 mystical pantheism that everything you know, and condensing it down 924 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:16.679 into very much like in Petra, Mohammad's grandfather they said 925 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.360 he worshiped three hundred and sixty five idols and then 926 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.760 at you know, the point when they got conduced all 927 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.039 into Allah, and basically that's when you have the birth 928 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:28.599 of Islam. 929 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:29.280 You know. 930 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.800 It's that you see these reconditioned forms happening over and 931 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.760 over and over as gods and goddesses over ride and 932 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.360 move and you know, it's very fractal line. 933 00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:46.119 Which reminds me of the whole celebration of the cow, 934 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.400 as you mark remarked, Mario, and now more into the 935 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:58.679 putting this aggressive character on it, and we always do 936 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.000 that with the god's prior. They're always demonized, they're the 937 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:03.400 new demons. 938 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:09.880 Yeah, exactly, no, no, we'll put for sure nice yeah, 939 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.519 if you wanna, if you want to go on over 940 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:14.559 to the next line. Kind of already covered that the 941 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.920 fifth element ether spirit. I just think it's interesting too. 942 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.679 So the pentagon very much related. 943 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:19.920 Right. 944 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:21.880 You can see clearly that you can put an inverted 945 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.360 pentagram or pentacle in there, and so this is the 946 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.719 platonic solid that associates with ether, right, the dodecahedron and 947 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:31.119 so made up of pentagons. 948 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.960 The pentagon is a symbol for a gabora again, which 949 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.199 is a Mars of the red sphere. So again that's 950 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.480 more Yeah. 951 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.519 Yeah, it's like the pentagon in DC. You know, five 952 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:46.679 pentagons within a pentagon, you know, it's it's Mars all 953 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:48.039 the way right there. 954 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:49.000 Right for sure. 955 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:54.960 So okay, this is the My understanding is that this 956 00:53:55.159 --> 00:54:00.000 was this symbol to the entrance to the underworld slash 957 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.159 afterlife in ancient Egypt, the duot, and that this was 958 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.559 that threshold that you crossed through of all the stars, 959 00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:11.719 of all the glyphs, of all sort of the imagery 960 00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.559 or iconography, it's a five pointed star, right. I mean 961 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.199 that to me is like just amazing that that's exactly 962 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:22.039 what it is, given this bridge sort of dynamic that 963 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.199 I've been referring to. And then I know in freemasonry too, 964 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.559 the five pointed star is often referred to as like 965 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.920 the blazing star, and then there's a whole Luciferian connection 966 00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.280 with that, it being a venus, being a symbol of 967 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.880 Lucifer and kind of this light bringer. There's a whole 968 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:41.159 light bringer aspect here. But my personal opinion is I 969 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.360 think as well though I know for sure. I mean, 970 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.519 at least I've read it in some lodge material that 971 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.559 the five point at star has indicated as well the 972 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:52.880 pole star, and so obviously with symbolism there's lots of correspondence. 973 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.480 Yeah, I think that's you know, I think it into 974 00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:57.639 it too much, But like this whole like think with 975 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.639 the star and stuff in the Polestar. From my experience, 976 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.559 I do think in the blazing Star, like even with 977 00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.000 the audio and stuff those Curlies talked about. Every time 978 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.039 I have that experience, it looks like a burning star 979 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.320 in the sky at first before it turns into an eclipse. 980 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.239 It's always a burning. 981 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:16.599 Star in the distance that looks like it's just this 982 00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:19.119 white dot that's like burning, and then eventually, as it 983 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.199 gets bigger, it turns into an eclipse. And then the 984 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.119 whole weird thing is that when it starts to separate, 985 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.920 it looks like that crescent symbol that's on top of 986 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:27.519 Tot's head. 987 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.119 Constantly it's like the cheshire. 988 00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.920 Cat like smiling at you right there, this big fucking grin, 989 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:35.599 glowing grin in front of your face, until it finally separates, 990 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.760 which then almost starts to look like that other thing 991 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.400 that you see on top of the other circle like 992 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.079 I do, like even see like the symbolism and going 993 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.480 again with like they what made me startle this was, 994 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:52.760 you know venus. Then you know lucifer is is associated no, 995 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.760 what is it getting confused with with with net sock? 996 00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.519 What is a lucifer I think is associated with that, 997 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:03.480 with that h with that sphere. The sigil of lucifer 998 00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.960 is very close to the way that light bounces off 999 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.840 of your lens in your eye too. You know you're 1000 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:10.559 talking about the bringer of light or this and that 1001 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:13.400 I mean, I think, uh, you know again talking about 1002 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.199 the divisions that I'm seeing. I do think something like 1003 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.679 that as all tight end together. 1004 00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:20.719 And the way light refracts itself, you. 1005 00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.480 Know, I mean, I do this, I think like that 1006 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:26.559 to sound corny in a way, but I think sometimes 1007 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:29.559 I wonder there's the whole idea of lucifer more of 1008 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.719 like divisions that I fall in love with my eyes 1009 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.480 that really I shouldn't be falling in love right and doing. 1010 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.239 A five pointed star. I mean, that is the symbol 1011 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.320 of the upright, man, Yeah, thats the symbol, the symbol 1012 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.840 of yourself echoing into the symbol of yourself like perpetually, 1013 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:52.239 you know, through all your organs and all your receiving 1014 00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.480 devices to determine what reality is itself, you know. 1015 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:56.360 And there you go. 1016 00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:58.840 Man, that's awesome, I mean. And then the next slide 1017 00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:00.960 actually really speaks to what saying. But before we get 1018 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.599 there real quick, I was just gonna mention that the 1019 00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:07.599 sigil of lucifers well has a V down below. There's 1020 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.440 a V for venus down below, right, and then also 1021 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:12.480 the overall shape of it is like a big V 1022 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:19.679 downward triangle sort of thing. Right, So there's all of that, yeh, right, 1023 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.679 So there you go. The thought version of the Hierpin 1024 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:26.400 card really says quite a bit, right. Even the throne 1025 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.079 of the Higher Fin here literally is the bull itself. 1026 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.679 And then you have these sort of nested five pointed 1027 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.960 stars kind of as you were saying, right, and then 1028 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.800 you got that white one of the child like on 1029 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.400 its chest or midsection, and then it's gown too. It's 1030 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.719 really almost like becoming part of the earth or something 1031 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:47.400 like that, right. 1032 00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:49.599 And I think this is interesting. 1033 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.039 Too because Taurus is fixed Earth, and there's a lot 1034 00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.119 of symbolism with the Higher Fin that relates to like 1035 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.239 retaining tradition, you know, and sort of like a preservation 1036 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.880 of something, and that's what the pope or a high 1037 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.960 priest or you know, something along those lines, a figure 1038 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.320 along those lines kind of represents, is maintaining this tradition 1039 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:13.239 or these insights esoteric secrets. That's another thing. This figure 1040 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:16.559 is really known for knowing things that other people don't know. 1041 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.400 He's again the keeper of the keys, the keeper of 1042 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:24.320 esoteric doctrines. And there's even some like more modern maybe 1043 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:27.079 actually this is more modern, I mean, as the Crowley 1044 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.199 deck is relative to like the whole history of the 1045 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:34.880 tarot is modern. But there's decks where the two followers 1046 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:41.599 underneath the pope. Sometimes you'll see them almost like grabbing 1047 00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.199 a key. Sometimes you'll see one of the figures and 1048 00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.440 he has a knife behind his back, almost like he's 1049 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.800 going to kill the pope or something like that. And 1050 00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:52.239 so they've kind of encoded this whole thing that like 1051 00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.280 he keeps secrets basically, And there's a whole thing with 1052 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.280 silence as well, I think with the pope, and what 1053 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.039 corresponds with the higher fint card or excuse me, with 1054 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:05.559 Taurus is the neck as well. And a lot of 1055 00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.000 times the higher fin has like almost like a blue 1056 00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.920 band around his neck or something along these lines. And 1057 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.800 so there's kind of a whole entire thing regarding language, 1058 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.960 I think with this figure, and that that might be 1059 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.679 in part a representation of some of the keys that 1060 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:26.519 he holds, is like secrets related to language and rituals 1061 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:32.000 and initiation and sort of things like that. So one 1062 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.679 of the things, though, I think is fascinating too is 1063 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.639 the fact that all of those stars are coming out 1064 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:43.760 of like the midsection there of that woman who is 1065 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.960 isis and basically a representation of Venus in my opinion, 1066 00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.360 and she's holding a crescent right in one hand, kind 1067 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.480 of like the horns of a bull or the moon 1068 00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.840 or the crescent that Venus makes or something along those lines. 1069 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.039 And then she's whole what looks like a sword. I 1070 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:05.760 actually think he may be encoding a subliminal nail. It's 1071 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.719 like a nail sword because the Hebrew letter that corresponds 1072 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.159 with his card is nail. And the way I see 1073 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:13.639 the nail, and actually you can go to the next 1074 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.880 slide because it's zoomed in a little bit above. Yeah, 1075 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:21.880 exactly what the nail represents is it binds, right, and 1076 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.280 so it's going to bind pieces of wood together. The 1077 01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.320 way I see this, I see this as like a 1078 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.000 world axis sort of symbol, right, and so just like 1079 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:34.760 a straight vertical line, just like Roman numeral one or 1080 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.800 the letter I or the wand or something like that. 1081 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:38.599 You know. 1082 01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.199 Just to say that, my opinion is there are realms 1083 01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:43.880 above and below and they're all connected through their center 1084 01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:47.360 through this vertical axis. And so the vertical axis has 1085 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:49.880 been viewed as well as a nail. The nail has 1086 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.920 encoded this axis that binds different realities together. So in 1087 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.519 a way, again it's almost not unlike the pillars in 1088 01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:01.239 the cabbalistic tree binding these different worlds together, kind of 1089 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.239 like the papal cross as well, that central axis binding 1090 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.840 these three levels of reality sort of together. And to me, 1091 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:12.679 the kicker with this one is that the an alternative 1092 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.639 name for the pole star was the nail star. And 1093 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.320 so when you look in the northern sky, you know, 1094 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.039 all of the stars, the fixed stars go around this 1095 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:23.559 central star, so it's like a point of pivot in 1096 01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.599 the in the heavens, and so the nail star to me, 1097 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:29.519 kind of relates to this concept basically. 1098 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.159 Been nailed in place. 1099 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.880 Nailed in place. Yeah, yeah, exactly right, yep, for sure. 1100 01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:37.159 And then even just to break it down on like 1101 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:41.280 really simple basic symbolic terms, I see the key as 1102 01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:44.480 well as basically being a world axis symbol. And so 1103 01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.840 I used to say all the time that poles and holes, 1104 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.039 you know, so many symbols go back to this dynamic 1105 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.800 between poles and holes, which relates to like sexual symbolism. Well, 1106 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:58.239 keys and locks is the same thing basically, right, and 1107 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.480 so poles and holes, keys and locks, the nail is 1108 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.840 pretty much the same thing. The obelisk, you know, I 1109 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.880 think of the obelisk in Saint Peter's Square, which came 1110 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.239 from Egypt as well. When yeah, when you look at 1111 01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.440 Saint Peter's Square from above, I don't have it here, 1112 01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.679 but it makes a gigantic keyhole. It looks like a keyhole, right, 1113 01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.039 And this is where the Pope will be in between 1114 01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.679 his two pillars, addressing his people in front of this 1115 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.679 gigantic obelisk that's right in the middle of this keyhole 1116 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:23.760 that is Saint peter Square. 1117 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:24.360 Right. 1118 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:30.679 May I add in geometry terms, that or symbolic geometry, 1119 01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:36.559 the line is the becoming of the point or as 1120 01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:39.920 you alluded to, the nail symbology is the line of 1121 01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:43.159 course and pull start the point. So those relationships are 1122 01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:49.159 both masculine. And then the pentacle or as you referred 1123 01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.960 to earlier with the taro, which is fascinating and being 1124 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:56.519 it being the plane. The plane and the volume are 1125 01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:01.679 both feminine in geometry, and the volume kind of being 1126 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.239 the coming of the plane. 1127 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:10.119 And the cup the volume holding the Yeah, yeah, totally. 1128 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:10.440 Yeah. 1129 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.480 You know what I used in my presentation. 1130 01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:18.480 I use the z axis as a symbol for this 1131 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.840 vertical axis for the world axis right, the X axis 1132 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.400 and y axis, and then the z axis right of 1133 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.719 verticality basically, I think is kind of another sort of 1134 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:32.519 metaphor here. But look this pentacle is these pentacles are 1135 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:35.800 coming from between her legs as well. Right, so I 1136 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.119 mean just Venusian symbolism. 1137 01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.840 To be man, right human? 1138 01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:43.360 Yeah exactly. 1139 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:45.840 So actually, speaking of if you want to go to 1140 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.599 the next lide, you know, when it comes to the 1141 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:53.599 womb or Uterus and the Filippian tubes, this whole system 1142 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:59.400 most people associated either with Aries and or Taurus, right, 1143 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.039 and you could see why very easily. You can see 1144 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:03.920 why Aries, and I think you can really see why 1145 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.639 with Taurus. And if you go to the next slide, actually, 1146 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:14.719 this is actually an X ray with liquid uh you know, 1147 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.480 whatever plunged up in there to get this X ray. 1148 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:21.800 And look at how much that really truly makes the 1149 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:24.519 silhouette of a bowl. I mean, it's like a dead 1150 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.599 ringer in my opinion. And then I've got another one 1151 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:35.000 too that you can see, yeah, right, And so if 1152 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.280 you go to the next slide, so this is just 1153 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.880 the righter weight version of the higher fin noticed the 1154 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:47.840 sort of uterus looking you know, illustrations or reliefs in 1155 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.760 those pillars there, Yeah right, So again the feminine quality. Really, 1156 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.840 it's all there if you want to yeah, yeah, yeah, 1157 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:04.760 exactly for sure. And then just to kind of emphasize 1158 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.960 the power of cow and bowl symbolism, this is literally 1159 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.760 when you really start reading Secret Teachings of All Ages 1160 01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:16.320 by Manly P. Hall, I think they show like an 1161 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.679 image of him or someone else in the beginning, and 1162 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.800 then once you really start reading, like chapter one, you 1163 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:27.400 see this print here, you see this plate and it's 1164 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:33.880 called a Group of World Religions, and it shows you one, two, three, four, five, 1165 01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.159 six at least six instances of the bowl or cow 1166 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:42.440 in sort of the origin story of like different world religions. 1167 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.280 So you have Taurus and the upper left, it's the 1168 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.320 beginning of sort of that arch right, and then you 1169 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.440 have the rest of the zodiac, and then you just 1170 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.559 work your way down and then there's several examples, and 1171 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.599 then in the bottom right you have mythrisk slaying that 1172 01:05:55.679 --> 01:06:00.719 cosmic bowl. So he begins his like masterpiece work by 1173 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.599 talking about this, which I think obviously you know says 1174 01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:12.159 quite a bit, so definitely worth looking at if you've 1175 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.400 never seen it. And then here you know, just the 1176 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.519 idea of like a heavenly bowl is something that's been 1177 01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:21.199 echoed like several times, you know, across cultures. 1178 01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:22.880 Right, and here you have this. 1179 01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:27.079 Blue bowl stars along its belly, and to me, this 1180 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.320 particular illustration right, which is like clearly Egyptian. I think 1181 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.039 it's fascinating because of what I said earlier about the 1182 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:37.400 earth being related to the cross or the square, and 1183 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.480 so if you're treating the bowl kind of like the 1184 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:45.079 firmament basically, and these people are underneath, they're in between 1185 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.400 the four legs, it's almost like the four pillars of 1186 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.719 Earth or whatever, the four corners of Earth or something 1187 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:50.480 along those lines. 1188 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:50.719 Right. 1189 01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:55.760 In Egypt, they had the APIs Bull, which was basically 1190 01:06:55.920 --> 01:07:02.480 a body for the soul of Osiris to reside in 1191 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:07.079 before it was reborn, and there was all these qualifying 1192 01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:10.840 factors of it was a black bull with a white cube, 1193 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.400 and like you know, there was all this mythology that 1194 01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.679 breathed on your children they would be successful. But it 1195 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.360 was basically a sign to be slaughtered at a certain 1196 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:25.559 date and but but but it was also to carry 1197 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:31.320 the divinity during a certain time on the earth itself. 1198 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:36.039 You know, I believe that the bull in Egyptian terms 1199 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.599 was corresponded with nutt who as you just said, Robbie 1200 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.320 carried Rah across across the sky. 1201 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.280 Mm hmm, yeah, you could even see like I don't 1202 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.000 know if that's exactly what it's alluding to, but those 1203 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:53.079 two boats underneath the belly, right, yeah, you know, and 1204 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:57.760 then even the the crescent moon, Like there's so much 1205 01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:02.000 arc ship boats and associated with like the moon in 1206 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:06.400 lunar symbolism, right, which is echoed in horns. So what 1207 01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:08.840 I didn't say earlier when I showed the five pointed 1208 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.960 star of the Duot. I have a book called the 1209 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.679 Isis Thesis by this woman named Judy K. King, and 1210 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:21.279 basically what she puts forward is according to her hieroglyphic translations, 1211 01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:25.079 she says that at least in one point in time, 1212 01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:28.720 amongst a certain sect of Egyptians, that their understanding was 1213 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.920 that their soul a sense to the northern sky upon death, 1214 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.840 and they believe that they exited the horn of a 1215 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.600 great bull basically upon death in the northern sky. 1216 01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:37.920 Right. 1217 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.319 That's really interesting as well, because if you look at 1218 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.199 like the Dendari zodiac, there's the thigh of the bull 1219 01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.319 in the northern sky, which is basically major and so 1220 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:52.520 that's so there's northern bull stuff for sure, like that's 1221 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:55.600 what kind of almost can be a separate conversation or whatever. 1222 01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.399 But the other thing that's really interesting about that is 1223 01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.600 that we know, regardless of sort of your cosmology or 1224 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.640 what kind of earth you think we live on, I'm 1225 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:08.359 very convinced that there is a toroidal field around Earth, right, 1226 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.039 and that this is the magnetosphere, and that there's an 1227 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.119 opening at the north right, and this is why we 1228 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:18.439 have the northern lights pretty much, and this opening is 1229 01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:20.880 what they're referring to. And to me, it's like no 1230 01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:25.239 coincidence that we refer to it as a Taurus field. 1231 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.079 Of all the things, right, of all the labels, we 1232 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.760 refer to it as a Taurus field. So to me, 1233 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.159 when they're referring to the horn of a great bolt, 1234 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:34.560 they're talking about the torust field. 1235 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.039 In my opinion, yeah, I'm down with that. 1236 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.399 I always when it gets oh it is the Earth 1237 01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:43.319 round or flat, I always say we're on a turtle 1238 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.720 and I get really into the turtle lore. But the 1239 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.000 tortoise is the Taurus. Yes, and sometimes the tortoise is 1240 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.239 connected to cancer, but at the same time it's also 1241 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.640 can be connected to the bowl a lot. But then 1242 01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.199 the moon connects with that as well, because the moon 1243 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:00.279 also exalts in Taurists. So there's lots going on there. 1244 01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:01.479 But yeah, I'm with you on. 1245 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:01.960 That for sure. 1246 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:04.119 Definitely, hell yeah, right on, Yeah, no, it makes a 1247 01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:04.760 lot of sense to. 1248 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:07.079 Me, just kind of a wing nut thing in the 1249 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:11.479 whole mix of things. There's this conspiratorial idea that the 1250 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:15.199 swastika was a fire sign being related to the bull, 1251 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.399 whereas the peace son. 1252 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:20.079 Was a water sign. 1253 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:24.800 And there's kind of this whole thing that Aleister Crowley 1254 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.239 gave this to Winston Churchill, and I who's to say 1255 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.560 if it's even true, but it's just interesting, like wing 1256 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.279 nut theology that's out there, you. 1257 01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:38.880 Know, totally, totally. Yeah. So if you go to the 1258 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.760 next lide, you're just going to see a simple depiction, 1259 01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:46.560 a graphic depiction, not a real photo or anything, of Taurus. 1260 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.359 And so you really see that v that I was 1261 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:53.359 talking about earlier, right, and then it's worth talking about too. 1262 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.840 But within Taurus there's the Pleiades basically, and so it's 1263 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:03.079 the seven Sisters and and you know my opinion, essentially, 1264 01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:05.319 I think you guys, you guys aren't going to be 1265 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.720 surprised with this one, but I maybe already mentioned it 1266 01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.000 here at some point I probably did. But the idea 1267 01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:14.920 that the original seven stars of Enlightenment belonged to Ursa 1268 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.199 Major in the north. People's idea of a stairway to 1269 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.079 heaven existed in the northern sky, and this was during 1270 01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:29.199 primordial polar times pretty much. And so there's this concentration 1271 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:32.720 of symbolism in the northern sky, and at some point 1272 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:36.399 these symbols and the storylines and the mythology I think 1273 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:39.880 got exported largely to the path of the Sun when 1274 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:44.159 people became more solar, right and when people really latched 1275 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.079 onto helio centrism and considered the Sun to be the 1276 01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:51.000 new center in the heavens basically. And so what happened 1277 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.399 was my understanding based on the authors that I like 1278 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.640 to read and everything else, and there's actually more people 1279 01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.840 who've written about this than I previously imagined, but that 1280 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.239 the symbolism shifted to the Pleades, and that the seven 1281 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:05.840 stars of Versu Major a lot of its symbolism shifted 1282 01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:10.119 to the Plades, and this basically from the Pliades or 1283 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:15.479 Taurus to Scorpio basically became the new axis to the afterlife, 1284 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.359 and when you look at how people talk about the pleades, 1285 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.119 I mean, it makes all the sense in the world 1286 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.479 that there's actually like an earlier sort of storyline. You know, 1287 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.239 my ancestors come from the pledes, We assent to the pledes. 1288 01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:31.079 I think this is kind of a modern sort of 1289 01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:34.720 I wouldn't say distortion. It is and it isn't, but 1290 01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:39.199 it's definitely an echo of something that existed previously. And 1291 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:42.920 because people became more solar, they paid more attention to 1292 01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:44.800 the path of the sun, they paid more attention to 1293 01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:47.720 the ecliptic, so they had to find a new axis. 1294 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:52.000 So I think that maybe symbolically it's like people were 1295 01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:57.000 more vertically inclined, were more vertically oriented rather and had 1296 01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:59.520 a connection with the divine in the above and below, 1297 01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.680 and then things became more horizontal, and this maybe was 1298 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:06.760 the actual real pull shift from polar to solar. Because 1299 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.840 to me, to think of this axis from Taurus to Scorpio, 1300 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:12.960 there's a lot of interesting things going on there, but 1301 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.680 it's not very it's not as holistic in my opinion, 1302 01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.920 it doesn't really to me feel like the true center 1303 01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.760 of things. I think in people sort of perception, it 1304 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:25.479 has become that over time. But I see that the 1305 01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:29.119 northern sky has more of a true, unifying, holistic, eternal 1306 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.439 sort of quality to it, just in general. 1307 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:37.159 And so I have seen in a couple places that 1308 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:44.680 the symbol of the plates is substitution for the pole star. Yeah, yeah, 1309 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:46.720 you know as far as the seven and the seven. 1310 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.000 Here's even another wrinkle to all of this. And I 1311 01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:53.439 did a whole presentation called the Pleadians, the Pleadians if 1312 01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:57.800 people want to watch it, And basically, Alice is the 1313 01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.920 father of the seven Sisters of the Right. And when 1314 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.039 they used to show Alice, he was holding the firmament 1315 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.319 way back in the day. Nowadays he's holding a world, 1316 01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.840 he's holding a globe. Beforehand he was holding like the 1317 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:13.319 vault of heaven or the ceiling of heaven, basically, right 1318 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.039 and so, and you know they would show him in 1319 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.319 a northern sort of looking location and like a central location. 1320 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:23.640 So to me, the Seven Daughters is a reference to 1321 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.039 ursa major. If you look into the mythology of the 1322 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:31.079 seven Sisters, there's actually a missing sister, and they actually 1323 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:33.000 have a myth about the missing sister. 1324 01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:33.960 I could be mistaken. 1325 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.399 I think her name is Elektra and that she's the 1326 01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:39.640 missing sister, because when you really look at the Pleiades, 1327 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:43.479 there's actually only six main stars, and so they had 1328 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:47.359 to come up with mythology that sort of reconciled the 1329 01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:49.760 difference between the seven stars of Ursa Major and then 1330 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.439 the six stars of the Pleiades, and they both look 1331 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.600 very similar to right, Ursa Major looks like a dipper vessel, 1332 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:57.720 and then the Pleiades kind of looks like a vessel 1333 01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:59.920 too as well. So for that reason and more, I 1334 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.640 I think it made sense to create this new axis. 1335 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.159 And another thing with all of that is that when 1336 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:10.399 you're looking towards Taurus, you're not only looking at the Pleiades. 1337 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:12.680 You're looking towards Aldeboron. 1338 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:14.960 You're looking at al Debaron, which is the eye of 1339 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:17.199 the Bowl, which is one of the royal stars of astrology. 1340 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.520 And then you're also looking at the galactic anti center. 1341 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:24.840 When you're looking towards Scorpio, you're looking towards the galactic center, 1342 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.760 which I even feel like I need to I don't 1343 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:29.640 know if I need to qualify that. I don't know 1344 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.000 if that's necessarily the true center of things basically, but 1345 01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:36.399 it's what's been said is the real center right towards 1346 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:41.079 Scorpio and terras in between like Taurus, excuse me, in 1347 01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:44.039 between Scorpio and Sagittarius. 1348 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:46.760 And also a Fucus is right there as well. 1349 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:51.399 And so people in today's world have basically latched on 1350 01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:55.359 the heaven heavenly gate symbolism with Scorpio and the Hellish 1351 01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:58.359 gate symbolism with Taurus. So the cross keys of the 1352 01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:02.680 higher fin the golden gate would be, yeah, the golden 1353 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:05.000 gate would be Scorpio, and then the silver gate would 1354 01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:07.239 be Taurus, if I'm not mistaken, the gateway to heaven 1355 01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:09.920 and the gateway to Hell. So just an interesting thing 1356 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:14.720 to consider with this polar to solar shift. But if 1357 01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:18.720 you want to cruise to the next slide, actually so 1358 01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:20.319 you can see the pleiad's right there kind of in 1359 01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:23.319 the shoulder right there, right, and you only see it's 1360 01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:25.880 that cluster of stars. How many stars are they showing 1361 01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:31.479 right there? They're showing six, not seven. But if you 1362 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:33.279 go to the next slide too, you'll see sort of 1363 01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:41.399 this new axis right, so generally from Taurus al de 1364 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.840 Baron towards Scorpio, which I don't think you can actually 1365 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:48.520 see here really, and then if you go to the 1366 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:51.680 next slide, this is where I have the information from 1367 01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:57.159 my recent presentation, the Turus scorpio axis right, Taurus, Silvergate, 1368 01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:01.079 Galactic Anta center, Hell, the Heaven excuse me, the royal 1369 01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:05.079 star being Oldeboron, then the Golden Gate, Galactic Center, Heaven, 1370 01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:12.159 and Tara's Yeah. So I think, actually this is kind 1371 01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.479 of veering away a little bit from Venus stuff. But 1372 01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:16.319 when you look at the death card, if you want 1373 01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:18.840 to go to the next slide, I think this is 1374 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:21.479 actually what it's really referring to. It's referring to this 1375 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:26.000 new solar axis that people have aligned themselves with. Because 1376 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:30.319 you have literally the higher fint pope right there on 1377 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.720 the right hand side, very much indicative of Taurus. He's 1378 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:39.760 literally underneath two towers. He's always in between two pillars, right, 1379 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:42.800 and so they're aligning him with that central pillar or 1380 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:46.479 that sort of gateway the keeper of the keys. But 1381 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.079 I think in this artwork, what you're kind of seeing 1382 01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:51.479 is that the true keeper of the keys is death 1383 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:56.039 himself or death death themselves. And by holding that poll, 1384 01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.239 what I kind of see is that, well, not only 1385 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.680 is there a flat with this rose that we've been 1386 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.439 referring to, this five pointed rose that's inverted for the 1387 01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:09.720 most part, the largest sort of silhouette of it is 1388 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.319 pointing downwards, right, So we're dealing with this gateway sort 1389 01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.920 of dynamic. But he's holding a pole, a world axis symbol. 1390 01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.039 One legged symbolism is world axis symbolism in my opinion, 1391 01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:22.640 which is why you see the thigh of the bowl 1392 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:26.159 in the northern sky in the then Dera zodiac. And 1393 01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.680 what I kind of see is that this pole almost 1394 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:33.279 subliminally continues the line downward, like through the leg of 1395 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.920 the death figure and then also through the leg of 1396 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:38.600 that horse right there. So from the very top of 1397 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:41.359 the canvas to the very bottom of the canvas there's 1398 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:46.000 almost this implied unbroken line that's basically saying that death 1399 01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.960 is in charge here, this is his card basically, and 1400 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.359 that the pope is kind of like subordinate to the 1401 01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:55.800 cycles and rhythms of death and everything else. So I 1402 01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:59.960 think that this is really speaking to the scorpionic taurus 1403 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:02.760 sort of axis scorpio being related to death and rebirth 1404 01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.960 and sex and everything else. And then everything Tourus relates 1405 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.600 to which we've been talking about, Well, you. 1406 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.960 Can even add or to help validate that it further 1407 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.840 is like with Libra ruled by Venus, it's there to 1408 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.760 be the gatekeeper to the underworld. 1409 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:20.319 Yes, the like I. 1410 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:22.640 Sometimes refer to it as like the customs agent, where 1411 01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:24.359 it's like where you're going, you're going to the underworld, 1412 01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:26.439 where you're going, do you have your stuff? Like are 1413 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:28.279 you going to the right place? Like making sure everyone 1414 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:29.800 when they do go there, that they are going to 1415 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:32.239 the right place that they are like yeah, set up 1416 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:32.720 for that. 1417 01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:37.720 Yeah totally man, Yeah, yeah, you got it. So yeah. 1418 01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:40.079 So I've never seen this so clearly in my opinion 1419 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:44.960 that it's a reference to the Taurus Scorpio polarity axis business. 1420 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:47.680 But to me, it seems pretty clear that this is 1421 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.119 definitely like the case, and that's what most people if 1422 01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:53.239 you're going to start looking into things, I would say 1423 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.840 that most people who are like into astrology, this is 1424 01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:58.640 probably the axis that they would point to if there 1425 01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.840 was such a thing as like a Sti way or 1426 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.479 a ladder to Heaven or something along these lines, right, 1427 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:08.720 And even just how people treat these two constellations, and 1428 01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:13.920 especially the pleats, how people treat that asterism like it 1429 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.399 implies all of this stuff in my opinion, but the 1430 01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:19.439 last two slides are just plugs and then I'm all, 1431 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:21.479 I'm all wrapped up here. Of course we can continue 1432 01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:25.720 chatting and everything else, but I just did just the 1433 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:26.039 other way. 1434 01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:27.560 I wanted to look at some of the first second, 1435 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.680 don't the way something on that horse was just reminding 1436 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:32.359 me of thought? 1437 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.479 Was okay with the legs and ship? 1438 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:37.880 Yeah, no, you're all good man. 1439 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.640 Oh well, I did want to bring up in regard 1440 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:46.359 to Venus and and the whole death ruling overall, when 1441 01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:51.279 you get into the mythology the rolling of the Golden 1442 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:56.039 Apple and then they picked Venus or Persephone as the 1443 01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:01.079 most beautiful and then they marry her a vulcan basically 1444 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:05.760 so he can create the weapons for the gods in 1445 01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:09.439 regard to the reigning down of terror and death. So 1446 01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:12.640 there's maybe something there as well. 1447 01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:13.800 Oh totally. 1448 01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.720 One of my favorite death cards shows a nude woman 1449 01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:23.560 as death basically, and she's holding a scythe. And there's 1450 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:25.439 another death card that I have where it's a pregnant 1451 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.520 woman holding a scythe as well, so I think it's 1452 01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:34.760 it's very interesting. Was Vulcan known for being like not attractive, he. 1453 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:39.199 Was ready complexed. He was so ugly, all the goddesses 1454 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.760 ran away from him. And basically the deal was made 1455 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:49.079 that he would marry or Sephanie or Venus in exchange 1456 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:52.880 for he was a titan basically that had been locked 1457 01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:55.520 away in the underworld, and they brought him back, that 1458 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:59.880 resurrected him up and gave him, you know, the most 1459 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:04.840 beautiful Venus for the sake of him, you know, giving 1460 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:11.239 the gods the various thunderbolt, the vajna and some of 1461 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.760 the other various various accouterments. 1462 01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:20.680 Gotcha, gotcha? Okay? Right on, Well that's what I got. 1463 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:22.960 Like I said, the last two slides are just quick plugs. 1464 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.720 I did a show on just an audio only podcast 1465 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:30.399 on Taurus recently, and by the time this comes out, 1466 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.359 you know, it'll be freely available to everyone. But that 1467 01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:36.079 woman that I was referring to earlier, Ola Wolney, she 1468 01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:40.439 submitted a voicemail. It's really awesome. She's super interesting. She 1469 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:43.359 really thinks that Venus contains a lot of the secrets 1470 01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:45.600 for like female alchemy and all sorts of other stuff, 1471 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:47.159 which I don't disagree. 1472 01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:50.560 With that completely, right, right, and so, and. 1473 01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:54.199 Then I did this presentation called Death and Taurus relating 1474 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:57.920 to pope symbolism in the Vatican and kind of getting 1475 01:22:57.920 --> 01:22:59.520 into a lot of the stuff that I mentioned with 1476 01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:02.640 the Abbe and the Keeper of the Keys and you. 1477 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:09.800 Know some other stuff. If people are interested, Yeah, yeah. 1478 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:12.600 I will say on a lot of my enlightenment journeys, 1479 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.960 there's some that I've like kind of calculated through just 1480 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.239 like using taking all this knowledge, whether like the astrology wheel, 1481 01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:21.359 like I use the alphabet, all these things to like 1482 01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.199 get to like understand this journey and like the loops 1483 01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:27.840 and everything. And at one of the craziest ends of 1484 01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:29.920 one of it, and it was these thru like just 1485 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:32.199 decoding the alphabet and being like, Okay, well now I 1486 01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:34.119 need to go live this out so that if I 1487 01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:37.000 am to teach about the alphabet, I've at least like 1488 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:39.119 like I've gone through this or whatever. And when I 1489 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:41.840 got to the end of it, that's all I could 1490 01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:44.079 think is that like whatever. 1491 01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.880 I met, whatever energy I came to. 1492 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:47.800 When I was like at the end of the Death, 1493 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:51.199 I could see like how complex, like just got to 1494 01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:53.199 the end of my lesson, I felt like, hey, I 1495 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:55.960 just met Venus and it was keecked to the letter 1496 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:58.560 Z and everything and like and that wlod kind of 1497 01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:02.439 thing and Z sorry Canadian, the Canadian came out there. 1498 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:07.640 But uh, in that, I think Venus has a lot 1499 01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:11.279 to do with the phoenix. Those two words seem to 1500 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:14.920 seem to sound a lot alike as well. And in 1501 01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:18.479 that too, it's like birds are very vocal. They're the 1502 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:22.039 singers of like this realm pretty much right, So that 1503 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:23.960 has to do again with like the taurus and the 1504 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:27.560 cerebellum and ruling like this part of that and they 1505 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:29.880 that you could even say that with libra because libra 1506 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:34.439 is an AirSign communicator. A libra is like the like 1507 01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:38.279 one of the masters of understanding the social constructs. 1508 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:38.840 And like that whole kind of thing. 1509 01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:42.760 So uh, I don't like to have tons on that, 1510 01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:44.319 but like it has to do with like, yeah, the 1511 01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:46.960 A to Z and the alphabet, like it's phoenix arizona, 1512 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.359 phoenix a Z. It's all hidden in it that it 1513 01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:51.039 has to do with it all. And that's what I 1514 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:54.640 would have like liked to have brought more on. But nonetheless, 1515 01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:56.359 at the end I met at the end of my 1516 01:24:56.439 --> 01:24:58.079 journeys a lot of times I'm pretty sure it was 1517 01:24:58.199 --> 01:24:59.479 Venus that I met or something. 1518 01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:02.079 Oh dude, that's awesome. I'm so glad you brought that up. 1519 01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:06.720 For a few different reasons. One, Alif the first letter 1520 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:09.680 in Hebrew is ox, right, and so we're dealing with 1521 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:13.039 the bull the cow. This is a castrated bull, and 1522 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.640 so there's a Venusian connection there. 1523 01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:17.439 The other thing is that. 1524 01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:23.199 The first and last cards of the major arcana encode 1525 01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:26.920 bowl symbolism, because one the fool relates to aliph, the 1526 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.399 first card of the major arcana, and then the last 1527 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:33.359 card of the major arcana is Tao is related to Tao. 1528 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:35.640 The world card is related to Tao, which means cross, 1529 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:40.800 but Tao is in like Taurus, right, and so all 1530 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:44.439 crosses kind of symbolically relate to the Tao cross the 1531 01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:47.720 anc is related and things like that. And then also 1532 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:50.399 that kind of just reminds me too of I can't 1533 01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:53.079 remember how the mathematics work out, I'm sure, or maybe 1534 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:53.840 somebody here knows. 1535 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:54.239 I don't know. 1536 01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.640 But pie, the way we use pie is actually like 1537 01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:01.880 it could be shortened if we used tao instead of pie. 1538 01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.119 And so there's even some people that promote the use 1539 01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:07.439 of Tao over pie because you have to do an 1540 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.880 extra step when you're using pie mathematically, but Tao in 1541 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:12.880 and of itself, you don't have to do that extra step, 1542 01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:15.279 and so don't ask me too much more beyond that, 1543 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.720 But I just think it's interesting that it's related to. 1544 01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:22.960 The shortest fraction you can get to form something close 1545 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:29.520 to pie is twenty two divided by seven gets point 1546 01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:31.960 three one four. So we have that twenty two again, 1547 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.239 which was v and everything. 1548 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:36.600 Right, Yeah, yeah, totally interesting. 1549 01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:39.680 So anyways, this beginning and end, I even think of 1550 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:43.159 the literally the trust field as well, you know of 1551 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.720 just just kind of this cyclical sort of thing. And 1552 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.520 then you know, yeah, so what you said there, I 1553 01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:51.079 totally can see where you're coming from and why you 1554 01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:53.079 would think that or see that or shore that. 1555 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:56.760 One thing I did want to mention, you know, you 1556 01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.840 talk about the phoenix and the you know, and thinking 1557 01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:06.600 of Venus and Netsak, where Venus would be on the 1558 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.680 cabalistic ttory of life. 1559 01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:11.319 The rainbow doesn't emanate from that over. 1560 01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.039 To Hode, So I mean I could see like how 1561 01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:16.119 you maybe like the phoenix, you know, how it has 1562 01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:16.880 the rainbow close. 1563 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:18.199 I could I could see that. 1564 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.159 I've even questioned if the rising phoenix because it's rising 1565 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.960 from the ashes. This is how I look at It's 1566 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.319 basically the right pillar. How he was explaining male and 1567 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:28.920 female ones, receptive ones, projective. You have light that's getting 1568 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.680 sucked to a magnet. I've offend wondered if the rising 1569 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:34.960 phoenix is like the light coming from the left side 1570 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.680 going back to where it's going, you know, the dark, 1571 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:42.439 the blackness, the ashes light. Yeah, like yeah, it's kind 1572 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:43.960 of like kind of taking a U turn. 1573 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.840 I now will never look at M and W the 1574 01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:55.000 same with the dual triangles. And I was going to add, 1575 01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:59.479 I think that it's uh you could. I'm always looking 1576 01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:02.319 at where they're two. There's four, right, and with the 1577 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:06.199 masculine and the feminine there is With with the masculine 1578 01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:10.439 you have projective as as you pointed out, and also reflective, 1579 01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:16.279 and with the feminine you have receptive and creative too. 1580 01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:17.039 Right. 1581 01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:20.039 They're they're like the matrix, like the ma that we 1582 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:23.800 and we celebrate. So just just an interesting and that 1583 01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:27.680 kind of dual out dual triangles kind of correlates with. 1584 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:29.680 That as well. 1585 01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:31.880 If you think about that's exactly how pictures have made 1586 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:33.960 or like at least now with the computers, you sucking 1587 01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:37.920 light onto a magnum. Yeah, it's basically going from the 1588 01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:39.760 right pillar to the left projective. 1589 01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:42.319 One thing, one thing I was going to bring up. 1590 01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:45.920 Are you familiar with the second Venus as the Greeks 1591 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:52.880 called her as far as Psyche. Yeah, so Venus her 1592 01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:59.079 child Cupid basically got together with this earthly woman, Psyche, 1593 01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:01.520 and they took her up on top of the mountain 1594 01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:04.840 and put her up on top of the blackstone, basically 1595 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:07.800 in the wind, and she ended up having this kind 1596 01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:12.039 of night journey. But there was an argument amongst the gods, 1597 01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:16.119 and nonetheless they said it. They ended up saying it 1598 01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:20.439 was okay for Cupid to be with a mortal and 1599 01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:23.119 then as a result of that, their child that was 1600 01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:26.880 born was pleasure is, which is where we get pleasure 1601 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:27.439 on earth. 1602 01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:33.359 So uh oh good, I. 1603 01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:36.880 Was gonna say, But Venus, she was super upset that 1604 01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:42.079 people were calling Psyche the second Venus. You know, that 1605 01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:45.960 was her main beef, her being you know, the most 1606 01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:47.279 beautiful of the goddesses. 1607 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:53.159 So one of the things I was gonna add, Tija, 1608 01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:55.920 I love that you brought up Libra being like the 1609 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.960 entrance to the underworld right and being ruled by venus. 1610 01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:05.720 My kind of my opinion is that similar to mercury 1611 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.960 hermes going to the underworld or different sort of spheres 1612 01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:15.000 of reality or whatever, I see it, that sexual symbolism 1613 01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:18.520 when a man is having sex with a woman, he's 1614 01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.039 going to the underworld. Basically that's part of the deep 1615 01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:23.880 symbolism behind it, you know, in my opinion, right, And 1616 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.079 so even there's that dynamic as well, that the underworld 1617 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:31.119 symbolically can have this sort of feminine correspondence, and so 1618 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.720 even to the orgasm being referred to as like the 1619 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.720 little death or whatever, right, And so I think that 1620 01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:38.520 there's like a lot to be said there. And then 1621 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.399 of course when you ejaculate, it's a similar sort of thing. 1622 01:30:41.479 --> 01:30:44.399 It's just like energy going up the pole basically, you know, 1623 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:46.880 going up to the underworld or what have you. So 1624 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:49.760 I think that that's kind of related. And then the 1625 01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:51.640 other thing I was going to say too, regarding the 1626 01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:54.159 Tau connection with the last card of the major arcana 1627 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:58.800 the world or Universe card in the crole version of 1628 01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:03.439 the Universe guard he most cards most decks do to 1629 01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:06.439 pick like the tetromorphs, the four living creatures, right, the 1630 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:09.800 cardinal or excuse me the fixed signs, including Taurus the 1631 01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:13.880 bull and in his deck. It's really interesting because they 1632 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.199 all are in the corners right, and then you have 1633 01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:19.439 the bowl I think in the lower left or lower 1634 01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:23.600 right corner, I can't remember. But the bulls eyes are 1635 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.840 the only eyes that are swirling. All of the other 1636 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:28.640 eyes for all the other creatures are just kind of 1637 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:31.359 normal for what they're supposed to look like, but the 1638 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:35.239 bulls eyes are actually swirling. And so there's even a 1639 01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:38.880 whole deep dive bull's eye connection with Aldeboron being the 1640 01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.199 eye of the bull, the eye of Buddha. It was 1641 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.199 once known as I think it used to be called 1642 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.039 the follower as well, and there's all sorts of things 1643 01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:51.720 going on there. And then literally like target, like to 1644 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:54.880 have a target tour get it's a reference to the bull, 1645 01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:58.720 right tor. And then even centaur is a reference to 1646 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:02.039 the bull as well, in that centaur basically means bull killer, 1647 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:06.640 and so arguably you can say that the centaur in 1648 01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:10.119 astrology is aiming at the bowl. I think there's actually 1649 01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:13.319 a few interpretations, but that's one of the interpretations. And 1650 01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:16.279 this kind of makes sense as well because Sagittarius is 1651 01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:20.960 right next to scorpio. So when the scorpion is rising, 1652 01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:24.079 the bull is falling as well. So even like in 1653 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.760 the mythraic mysteries with the tarroctny, you have the little 1654 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:32.279 scorpion pinching the testicles of the bull, right, and so similarly, 1655 01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.000 when the centaur is rising, the bull is also falling. 1656 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.319 And so to me this all comes into play funny 1657 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.880 enough with target, like the store target, and so you 1658 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:45.279 have target target get. 1659 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:46.000 The eye of the bull. 1660 01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:50.079 The symbol is a bull's eye, it's a circumpunct. It's red. 1661 01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:52.800 Al de Baron is also referred to as like a 1662 01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:55.159 red planet or a red star. Basically, there's a lot 1663 01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:58.439 of symbolism with Al Debaron related to Mars and things 1664 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:02.600 like that, right, and so their branding is red. They 1665 01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:06.199 have a bull's eye logo, and then their mascot is 1666 01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:10.359 a bull terrier of all dogs, of all breeds. It's 1667 01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.760 a bull terrier. And then they put literally a bull's 1668 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.319 eye over the eye of one of its eyes, right 1669 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:20.560 to kind of whatever, just flesh out all of this stuff. 1670 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:23.239 So I did a video about it years ago, but 1671 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:26.199 it's kind of amazing that the target symbolism really it's 1672 01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:28.039 related to Taurus and the bulls eye and all the 1673 01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:28.960 things I just mentioned. 1674 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:34.079 That's fascinating. Your whole presentation was fantastic. And I read 1675 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:41.079 that it was the bullseye expression was from hunters engaging 1676 01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:43.760 their prey in that manner that they got the target 1677 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.000 right in the head or I but I think it 1678 01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:50.159 makes much more sense your idea that it's more stellar. 1679 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:55.159 So that's awesome point on a great presentation, man. 1680 01:33:55.319 --> 01:34:00.000 Right on, Thanks dude, appreciate it. 1681 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.640 Last one last beautiful thing to say about Venus. Venus, 1682 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:06.359 when we enter tourist season, that's when we first get 1683 01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:11.000 our first blooms and blossoms that happen. And when it starts, 1684 01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:14.079 the grass starts to get greener, we start seeing flowers, 1685 01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:16.520 we start seeing all that. It's it's a very very 1686 01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:21.239 beautiful time of the year. Also in Libra season, that's 1687 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:23.680 when the leaves start to turn from green to gold 1688 01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.399 and so on so forth, a very beautiful season, just 1689 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.520 reminding us how much Venus is here to teach us 1690 01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.359 to appreciate the beauty, especially the beauty in the birth 1691 01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:34.439 and the death as well. 1692 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.359 So definitely definitely right on. 1693 01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.520 All right, Genny, ready, Uh, that's sure. I am already 1694 01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:44.279 watch which one of these? Which one of these? 1695 01:34:44.319 --> 01:34:44.479 Down? 1696 01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:47.000 They're not in order, so we'll just I'll just all 1697 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.319 try and under ten minutes and to it. Mario kind 1698 01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:53.479 of dead. Okay, So this is I thought it would 1699 01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.840 take you. Since Mario's here and I don't often get 1700 01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:58.920 the opportunity, thank you, I'll take the opportunity to like 1701 01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:03.079 do some symbolic studies with Mario. So they obviously do 1702 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:06.640 a tontrac chronic mixture version with the little Vita Ca 1703 01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:09.039 astrology thrown in, which I'm sure Maria's familiar with most 1704 01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:11.159 of it. Stuff, No big deal, and I'll try and 1705 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:16.119 be concise. So the I think the one thing to 1706 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.399 think about is we go through all the pictures, is 1707 01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:22.159 like the Venus or the goddess, we could say she 1708 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.880 has many expressions in Tantra. She can be expressed in 1709 01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:28.199 every sephra, she can be expressed in every planet, and 1710 01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:31.159 there are different densities or different personalities. Maybe you could 1711 01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:35.680 say she even has at and so the deeper you get, 1712 01:35:36.640 --> 01:35:41.399 her expression outwardly also changes, so that's really important. And 1713 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:45.920 then Tantra also preferences two numbers really, which is well 1714 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.880 three numbers, will say three numbers, So it's seven, ten 1715 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.880 and ten, which is obviously two numbers because it's one 1716 01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:55.640 in zero e ceph for our negative space via negativa. 1717 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.680 So that even goes along with something that Mario is 1718 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.199 saying right at the beginning with Va. It's like there's 1719 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:03.560 a negative quality to it. And I'm not saying negative 1720 01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:08.680 isn't bad, just a negative polarity, you could say. And 1721 01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:13.159 so she Lakshmi is the sort of superficial density of 1722 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:16.479 the goddess. You could say, it's her as a frivolous maiden. 1723 01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:20.560 And interestingly enough, she was originally married to Shiva in 1724 01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:24.600 the earliest praanas, but then this got changed so she 1725 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.159 would be married to Vishnu, who is the greatest hero 1726 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:30.560 of the Mahavira, so he's the worldly hero, so he's 1727 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:34.199 the one who dies, reincarnates, comes into the world, and 1728 01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:38.039 this is conducted by Venus. So it goes along with 1729 01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:40.600 what both Rabi and Mario were really saying. It's like 1730 01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:42.800 there is an element of life and death, and I 1731 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:45.840 will get back to that, but this is actually even 1732 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:49.399 though I'm saying it's the normative Hindu goddess and it is, 1733 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:52.439 this is actually a tontric image. Why is this the 1734 01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:57.880 tontric imistint Because she's riding of Hahna. Her vehicle is 1735 01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:01.279 named Ulu, who is the owl. This is only found 1736 01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:03.880 in contric images of Lakshmi. So if you ever see 1737 01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:07.720 this in the wild, you will know instantly, okay, that 1738 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:10.880 person is actually signaling to something else. Because you don't 1739 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:13.920 see this very often. It's very hard to find. And 1740 01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.239 so because she's really fixed, so Mario brought up that 1741 01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:21.680 really interesting point about being enthroned, So she's fixed in place, 1742 01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:25.479 and usually in the non tontric images, she's actually looking 1743 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:28.760 down at her own reflection in the water, and she's 1744 01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:33.560 transfixed by her reflection in the water. And so she's 1745 01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:36.960 also non generative. So I thought that was another really 1746 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:42.039 interesting point, talking about polarities and receptivity and you know 1747 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:46.479 the polarity the different forces. So she's non generative. So 1748 01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:50.000 she the only thing that she expends her power on 1749 01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:57.039 is worldly things gems, gemstones, gold, silver, all that she 1750 01:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.600 grants wealth, but she's fickle. She's a maiden, so she 1751 01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:06.359 doesn't grant wealth infinitely. She grants it in portion, which 1752 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:09.720 obviously also relates to the idea of net SoC because 1753 01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:14.960 it grants fortune and life force in portion. So I 1754 01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:17.880 think that's kind of an interesting idea. Okay, sorry, Nick, 1755 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:19.000 we can go to the next one. 1756 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.000 Have you ever, I'm assuming you understand a little bit 1757 01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:23.600 of a new meat from the Book of the Look right, 1758 01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:27.319 a little bit. I would like just this image. It 1759 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:29.520 makes me think a lot about her, the gems and 1760 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:32.560 the jewels and the sense and this and that she's 1761 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:37.840 supposed to have. Yeah, even though it's totally differently, you know, 1762 01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:40.159 a pantheon and everything, it just made make me think 1763 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:40.520 about that. 1764 01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:43.439 Well, there's a I think everyone on the panel agrees 1765 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:46.960 that there is a relationship. Maybe not one to one, 1766 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:50.359 but there's a relationship with all the pantheons. I think 1767 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:52.199 I think everybody would say yes to that. I mean, 1768 01:38:52.279 --> 01:38:52.800 maybe not, but. 1769 01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:54.760 Nice. 1770 01:38:57.119 --> 01:39:00.640 So we're gonna go to the buffalo symbolism right away. 1771 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:03.079 So I know, you're seeing a lion and you're asking 1772 01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:06.760 buffalo symbolism. Well, the demon that you're seeing, he actually 1773 01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:10.920 is a buffalo. That's what his name is, ahish ma Asura, 1774 01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:17.000 the buffalo demon. Literally, so this is Venus as Tondica 1775 01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:21.199 or the fortress. Obviously that corresponds kind of one to 1776 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:24.560 one with nets A, at least in one understanding. So 1777 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.319 she rides into battle, so she's bringing to that goverratic 1778 01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:33.439 quality Venus bring coming into the fortress, sort of racing 1779 01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:37.319 into the battlefield to slay the demon. So there's something 1780 01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:40.159 else so interesting about this is that alder Baran, the 1781 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:44.720 star that Mario and Robbie discussed in Tontra, that is 1782 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:48.600 a goddess called Rohini and she is the red bull goddess. 1783 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:52.199 So she's actually married to the moon. So that's kind 1784 01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:55.600 of interesting as well. Okay, we can go the oh. 1785 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:57.239 So I just want to say this is this is 1786 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.319 she is the highest expression of Venus. You could say 1787 01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:04.680 inenormative religion. So if you're just like a Hindu and 1788 01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:06.319 you want to pray to the highest God of the 1789 01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:09.319 highest God, because there is a hierarchy and there just 1790 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:11.520 as I said, there are different expressions of the goddess. 1791 01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:14.760 Not all of them are equal, and it's really important 1792 01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:17.680 to understand like why and where they are in the hierarchy. 1793 01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:21.800 So she is definitely the zero if we're going to 1794 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:25.680 talk numbers, because she's not really contained in her own 1795 01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:28.840 her will is not really contained within her She's a 1796 01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:32.680 composite of all the deities, all the demons, all the 1797 01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:36.239 she is Mohammaiah. Basically, she's just the like Nick was 1798 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:39.199 you and saying, like the it's luciferic expression of light, 1799 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:45.640 like just that explosive force. So okay, we can go right. 1800 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:47.640 Actually, I would love to add something real quick if 1801 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:49.920 you're on my mind. Very interesting stuff, dude. I love 1802 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:51.920 it when you present images and talk about them and 1803 01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:56.399 everything I've read before. I think it's fascinating that you 1804 01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:59.119 brought up the buffalo connection here. And I've looked into 1805 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:02.319 this figure lightly remember a while back, but I've read 1806 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:05.640 in some of my resources that there is a traditional 1807 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:13.000 sort of adversarial dynamic between the line and the bowl 1808 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:16.560 or buffalo, and that the line represents like this heat 1809 01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:19.800 and this fire and dryness, and the buffalo and cower 1810 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.039 bowl can represent like a moist sort of quality, and 1811 01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:26.239 that they've been used as like animals, to be sort 1812 01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:30.039 of symbolically like contrasted and things like that. So just 1813 01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:31.680 the fact that that's kind of echoed here, I think 1814 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:35.399 is interesting. And then just to kind of piggyback off 1815 01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:39.239 of Nick's point with Knutt or Nui, I see it 1816 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:41.239 that if you look at the circumpunct as an example, 1817 01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:45.279 Nui would be the circle itself, and then had it 1818 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:47.680 would be like the point itself in the middle. Right, 1819 01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:50.720 kind of piggybacking too off of what Jinja said regarding 1820 01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:53.439 everything she represents and all of that, the totality of 1821 01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:55.399 all the things, so you know, in some ways you 1822 01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.279 can look at it that the masculine exists sort of 1823 01:41:58.319 --> 01:41:59.439 within her or what have you. 1824 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:05.319 Anyways, that definitely the no Mario. That was great because 1825 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:08.760 it definitely explains like a lot of what she is 1826 01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:12.760 and who she is, and so we can go the 1827 01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:17.039 next one's screening. So this is actually a tontric goddess, 1828 01:42:17.079 --> 01:42:19.279 so I said it the first image. That's not a 1829 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:21.760 tontric goddess, but I use a tonic image. So this 1830 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:25.479 is the highest expression of the wealth goddess, so Lockshmi. 1831 01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:27.880 But she gets an upgrade, so she gets to be 1832 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:32.439 called Kamalatmika. And if you hear a similarity with someone's name, 1833 01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:35.880 that is because there's a direct one to one relationship. 1834 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:40.079 So Kamala Mika is the golden goddess. So this is 1835 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:43.279 also really interesting. And you can see she's sitting on 1836 01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:46.000 a five pedal lotus in this image in particular. But 1837 01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:50.760 tonic images tend to be a little idiosyncratic depending on 1838 01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.720 region or artist or different things, but it should relate 1839 01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:57.359 to the text. So this actually does relate to one 1840 01:42:57.399 --> 01:42:59.840 of the Kamala Meka tontras where she sits on a five. 1841 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:03.319 That's very interesting and I'm going to actually get back 1842 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:07.359 to that also. But when she is expressive in the world, 1843 01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:10.600 as you see, she's looking straight ahead. She's not looking 1844 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:15.960 above orblow, she's looking just straight because her power is 1845 01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:19.239 to grant infinite boons, so boons that do not affect 1846 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:22.159 your karma. This is obviously from a contract perspective, so 1847 01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:25.520 you can interpret it how you want, but she does 1848 01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:28.800 not implicate karma. In fact, the she can grant liberation, 1849 01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:32.840 but the goddess, when she's at her lower form at lauchmet, 1850 01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:37.920 she actually uses your karma to grant boons from your 1851 01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:42.600 future lives. So you're implicating your wealth karma or your 1852 01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:45.720 love karma or anything when you even just pray, just 1853 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:51.039 regular normative prayers, So she doesn't. So that's another interesting 1854 01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:53.520 kind of idea. When you're getting like a little higher 1855 01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:56.319 in tontric thinking, like what they can do and who 1856 01:43:56.359 --> 01:44:00.439 they are, and you can see her Vahana is the elephant. Well, 1857 01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:03.199 the elephant's really interesting because you guys brought up the 1858 01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:07.079 son or like the goddess has a son in Cupid, 1859 01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:10.399 Well you could say that the elephants usually there are 1860 01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:13.880 four to represent the four quadrants or the four crossroads. 1861 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:18.319 This is actually how it's even described. And her son Ganesh, 1862 01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:23.119 although it's not necessarily this goddess's son, although they are 1863 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:28.000 all one in some ways. Yeah, you could you can 1864 01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:31.159 also say that, so her son is Ganesha. Obviously they 1865 01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:34.840 call him, we call him Ghanapatin Buddhsm. But so Ganessha 1866 01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:39.560 who has an elephant's head. So he's the lord of obstacles. 1867 01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:41.840 I know he gets assigned to other things like lord 1868 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:43.960 of wealth and all that stuff, but really he's just 1869 01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:47.560 the lord of obstacles. That's like his really his primary function. 1870 01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:51.199 So you can see, like how important. So she even 1871 01:44:51.319 --> 01:44:53.680 lifts even though he's a higher god, like he is 1872 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:57.159 considered a Maha Deva, he's even higher than that. She 1873 01:44:57.239 --> 01:45:00.680 can actually lift hit any obstacles that he play before 1874 01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:03.600 you to. Well, there are ten directions in Tntra, so 1875 01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:06.600 This is also really important because there's five above, five 1876 01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:12.439 below and then up and down right. So anyways, sorry 1877 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:15.520 about this. So you they come together and she kind 1878 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.439 of lifts off. So that's what venus is. It's like 1879 01:45:18.520 --> 01:45:21.680 really like it's very luciferic in chatre. It's just like 1880 01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:28.680 you're like, sorry, we can go the next one, okay. 1881 01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:31.199 So you can see I did choose it because she's 1882 01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:33.680 wearing green and I thought that's interesting in green and gold. 1883 01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:36.279 TJ brought that up. Nick brought that up, like that 1884 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:40.560 nets oc gold and green quality. So this is actually 1885 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:44.439 her real husband, who is Kubera. So Kuberra is a 1886 01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:48.199 Yaksha king, meaning that he's a nature god, but he 1887 01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:50.439 is actually the god of wealth. A lot of people 1888 01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:52.560 have different ideas of like who the god of wealth 1889 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:55.039 is in Hinduism, this is the god of wealth, Kuberra. 1890 01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.199 So he's married to latch Me. So he is considered 1891 01:45:59.239 --> 01:46:04.159 to be the tryasurer of the celestial and the chathonic treasury. 1892 01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:08.920 So he literally sits in the vault counting the coins 1893 01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:13.399 and his wife Lakshmi spends them. That's kind of the 1894 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.399 idea when she's granting you a boon she's kind of 1895 01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:20.439 spending the things from the karmic treasury. So that's what 1896 01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:23.199 I'm saying. When you know, you pray for something and 1897 01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:25.920 she grants it, well, it's just it's a future thing 1898 01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.640 that actually you've already earned. It's something that you'll get 1899 01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:32.119 in a future rebirth. But she's actually borrowing it from there, 1900 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:34.960 so you can exhaust it, you can exhaust it in 1901 01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:38.680 one lifetime. So that's why she's considered fickle. So she 1902 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:41.760 also hates her husband. So that's also interesting because even 1903 01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:44.199 though I picked one where he's considered like he looks 1904 01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:47.960 more handsome, he's usually like a little pot belly dwarf, 1905 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:52.439 which is how all yakshas look. So you know, that's 1906 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:54.119 just the way it is. But you can see the 1907 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:58.800 greater Lachmi standing above them pouring the jewels down. So 1908 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:02.479 in this form, she's not using your karma. She's actually 1909 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:06.439 drawing from the higher heavens. Her husband, her true husband, 1910 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:10.279 which is Shiva. As I said, she got switched, but 1911 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:13.840 he's a worldly god, so in this he's also she's 1912 01:47:14.119 --> 01:47:17.720 also married to a worldly god, but in her higher portion, 1913 01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:20.399 she's really married to the highest god, who is Siva. 1914 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:22.800 Because he's really the one if you want to think 1915 01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:30.920 of it like that. Okay, we can go the next one. Certain, Okay, 1916 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:32.680 So there we go, shoe crass. So this is the 1917 01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.920 planetary deity of Venus. So this is like the outer 1918 01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:38.600 of the outers, you could say, like if you're giving it, 1919 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:40.920 like what is net SoC Like, this is the Venus. 1920 01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:45.000 This is like the planetary probably intelligence, you could say. 1921 01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:48.880 And so he is sex, drugs and rock and roll. 1922 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:51.720 It's like, I mean, Marios talked about this as well 1923 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.479 in his amazing videos. So yeah, he's sex, drugs and 1924 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:58.159 rock and roll. He you know. He one really interesting 1925 01:47:58.199 --> 01:48:01.439 story that correlates to something that all you discussed was 1926 01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:06.359 the thing about eternal life. So originally Venus ran clockwise 1927 01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:09.359 or turned clockwise, and so that's really Shukra. So the 1928 01:48:09.399 --> 01:48:13.439 physical planet is Shukra. So when it's turning clockwise, he 1929 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:18.479 was able to grant humans immortality. But some of the 1930 01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:23.399 other gods, not Shiva, Vishnu or the Goddess, the middle 1931 01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:27.760 tier gods, you would say, they said, look, if you 1932 01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:31.960 grant them immortality, what's going to happen is there will 1933 01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:34.039 be no more gods born in heaven. Because that's one 1934 01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:36.640 of the consequences of good karma right is to be 1935 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:40.239 born in a higher realm. So they basically said, you 1936 01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:41.960 have to turn the other way. So then he took 1937 01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:45.439 away that boon or that portion of life force, and 1938 01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:49.000 then we have mortality. So this also goes along with 1939 01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:51.560 the death card. Who is also riding a white horse, 1940 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.680 and the white horse is a really interesting mount because 1941 01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:58.159 it is amount is specifically in Tantra that is only 1942 01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:05.840 associated with kings, So very interesting, I think. And the oh, 1943 01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:07.800 this was a note because I don't have a slide 1944 01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:10.000 on it. But you guys were talking about the sun 1945 01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:14.439 and like how we lived well, Mario and I have 1946 01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:20.159 discussed it, like polar age, solar age, hyperborean age, who knows. 1947 01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:23.960 But there is something interesting is that the Sun cult 1948 01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:25.960 in India, so this is kind of the reverse of 1949 01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:30.239 the West. Almost the Sun cult became absorbed into the 1950 01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:32.800 Weish novel cults, so the Vishnu cult, so all of 1951 01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:36.079 the vishnws, like all the different forms of Vishnu that 1952 01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.399 most people worship, that's the most prevalent kind of Hinduism, 1953 01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:46.079 like seventy percent them. So Suria got absorbed into them. 1954 01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:48.640 So Surria is not no longer an independent deity, but 1955 01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:51.600 he used to be a very very important deity, probably 1956 01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:55.479 the one of the primary cult focal points, you could say, 1957 01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:58.239 for about seven hundred years. So it is interesting that 1958 01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:00.319 he got absorbed into this kind of what we could 1959 01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:04.119 say is like a hesatic kind of messianic hero cult. 1960 01:50:05.239 --> 01:50:08.439 Just interesting idea. Okay, Nick, we can go the next one, 1961 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:15.600 thank you. So again the luciferic thing. I had to 1962 01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:17.680 choose this one because when Nick was saying it, I 1963 01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:20.359 was like, Okay, that totally makes sense, because like, if 1964 01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:24.720 she's empty, she's the zero the light passing through. What happens, 1965 01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:30.119 It refracts into ten distinct spaces or wheels of time. 1966 01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.119 So I have said, and I've done a series with 1967 01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:35.760 Nick on this a long time ago, that this is 1968 01:50:35.800 --> 01:50:39.159 actually the tontric version, at least one kind of contra 1969 01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:43.079 of the cabalistic tree, because you can even map them 1970 01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:48.239 in different paths if you understand. So the image itself 1971 01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:52.399 is not complete. It's probably less complete than actual cobalistic 1972 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:56.079 tree in terms of how much you can glean from 1973 01:50:56.079 --> 01:51:00.520 the outer layer. But if you are just like somewhatle 1974 01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:03.000 you can actually figure it out. So it is kind 1975 01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.560 of interesting because they're each numbered and then it's like 1976 01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:11.600 her expression into her will. So when she's them, you 1977 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:16.359 could say, or them individually, she's fully expressed in her will. 1978 01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:19.920 But when she's the zeros, there is nothing she doesn't have, 1979 01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:23.319 like a core concept, except that the world is her. 1980 01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:27.119 Also, do you know, I love this? 1981 01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:31.640 Do you know if there's a correspondence between the images 1982 01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:33.760 or scenes that sit opposite each other? 1983 01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:37.399 Absolutely? So, do you want me to take you through it? 1984 01:51:37.439 --> 01:51:38.359 I can do it really quick? 1985 01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:40.600 Sure? Yeah. 1986 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:44.479 Okay, So the wheel always starts at the top, which 1987 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:48.239 is Collie, who's related to Saturn. Right, I'm just going 1988 01:51:48.319 --> 01:51:51.960 to give you the tondric astrology like association because I 1989 01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.479 think that will make sense to you. But one is 1990 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:57.199 not a prime number. So one is not the start, 1991 01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:00.279 it's just the movement of the wheel. Right, it's the 1992 01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:03.239 prime mover. It's not the prime cause I've talked to 1993 01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:05.960 Nick about this million times. Psychologize. So then we have 1994 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:11.239 Tara at two. Tara is in fact the expressive force's 1995 01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:15.199 she's related to Jupiter, so we were talking about like the 1996 01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:19.800 expansiveness of Jupiter infinite in her capacity for mercy and 1997 01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:23.399 loving kindness. The mother of the milk ocean. So we 1998 01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:26.680 also talked about milk before, so that's also interesting. And 1999 01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:29.760 so she nurses Siva. Actually that's one of her fun 2000 01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:32.319 like that's the story that she comes into the world. 2001 01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.359 She comes in and nurses Siva with her breast and 2002 01:52:36.399 --> 01:52:39.960 with her milk because it cures the poisons that arose 2003 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:47.239 from the world ocean from the center. And so next 2004 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.199 is Tripera by Robbie. So she is the three. So 2005 01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:55.720 she's related to mercury. And she expresses the word so 2006 01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:59.000 like the actual name of the word, like the the, 2007 01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:02.560 like the more, not necessarily the sound, but like the 2008 01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:06.000 depiction maybe on paper, that is also her. So you 2009 01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:09.479 can't think of it as like it's not masculine or 2010 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:12.279 you know, sometimes more masculine like toath. I was thinking 2011 01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:18.000 because Nick is here obviously, but he gets associated with writing, 2012 01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:19.680 and I think that that's true. I think that the 2013 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:23.119 male deity is the physical act of writing. But when 2014 01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:25.840 we're talking about in a contrac view, they would consider 2015 01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:30.560 the actual letter when it's in an expression to be feminine. 2016 01:53:31.239 --> 01:53:34.479 Does that make sense? Okay, So that is what she is. 2017 01:53:34.520 --> 01:53:38.319 So she's extremely important. Some Tontra's place Kalia is the 2018 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:43.319 most important. Buddhist tantra obviously places Tara as the most important, 2019 01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:46.960 and shri Vija tantra, which is just as popular as 2020 01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:50.640 Khali Kola, places Tripra sundry as the most important. So 2021 01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:53.479 the word is the most important in some kinds of contra, 2022 01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:57.680 so that's kind of interesting. Then you have Tripura by Ravi, 2023 01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:00.720 who is associated with the knock Chatra or the hour 2024 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:03.039 of birth I think that is, or the Logna. Excuse me, 2025 01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:07.039 she's associated with Logna. And then you have Chinnamastica, who's 2026 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:10.720 associated with Rahu. She's the only goddess who can clear 2027 01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:15.119 Rahu fully from a birth chart. Then you have I'm 2028 01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:16.920 not sure which one this one is, so we'll come 2029 01:54:16.920 --> 01:54:19.000 back to that. But then you have Dumavati as the 2030 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:22.199 widow in the chariot, so she is related to Tattoo. 2031 01:54:22.319 --> 01:54:25.159 She's the only goddess who can clear Kattuo fully from 2032 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:29.000 a chart. Then you have Bagalamuki who's wearing the gold. 2033 01:54:29.359 --> 01:54:33.560 She's related to Mars. She actually has a very interesting power. 2034 01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:37.199 It relates to the Hebrew Cabala actually quite well, it's 2035 01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:40.920 like that stunning power, or it's like a she's holding 2036 01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:44.119 a hammer and holding the demon's tongue, So it's kind 2037 01:54:44.119 --> 01:54:48.039 of like the potential energy transforming into the kinetic energy. 2038 01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:51.800 It's like the time before something takes action, Like I've 2039 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:56.159 likened it to the flintlock on a musket before. That's 2040 01:54:56.359 --> 01:54:58.680 very much what it is. But it's also like the 2041 01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:03.239 moment of perception, like if you're driving really fast, especially 2042 01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:05.960 in the winter, and that there's trees around you, but 2043 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:08.479 the light kind of pierces through and you kind of 2044 01:55:08.520 --> 01:55:12.560 get momentarily stunned. That's even how it's sort of described, 2045 01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:18.079 so kind of interesting. With that, then you have I 2046 01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:20.159 don't even know which one this one is. Which ones 2047 01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.960 are we missing? Okay, well that's okay, I don't remember. 2048 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.399 But because they do, they look too much alike to me. 2049 01:55:27.039 --> 01:55:30.079 But no, that's basically it. So you can relate them 2050 01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:35.239 each in astrological timing using the Vedic chart. There's obviously 2051 01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:40.239 ten mahavija, ten greater wisdoms, so they could be likened 2052 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:43.239 to stars. Is one thing I thought was interesting when 2053 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:46.720 Mario was speaking, because they're kind of greater than the planets. 2054 01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:52.600 They hold more potential, you could say more there, but 2055 01:55:52.640 --> 01:55:55.119 they're not stars at the same time, because the stars 2056 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:58.800 are actually accounted for in the vitas, they're given specific names, 2057 01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:01.319 so you could even say that they are the negative 2058 01:56:01.439 --> 01:56:05.520 space between the stars and the planets. That's one way 2059 01:56:05.640 --> 01:56:09.119 that it has been described. So that's also kind of interesting. 2060 01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:11.560 I think, okay, boss, we can go the next one. 2061 01:56:11.600 --> 01:56:19.720 I'm sorry, Okay. So Mario was talking about, like, oh 2062 01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:23.439 it's starting. Nick was talking about like that relationship with 2063 01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:27.239 Geverra and Mars. So the monkey guy with the red flag, 2064 01:56:27.880 --> 01:56:30.479 he has a direct relationship with Mars. He you could 2065 01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:34.760 say he's like the the higher angelic expression of Mars 2066 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:40.119 in their system, so he's always worshiped on Tuesdays. Hanuman, 2067 01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.760 that's the monkey King, not the same as the Chinese 2068 01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:46.960 monkey kingf saying he's the paronic monkey king. And then 2069 01:56:47.039 --> 01:56:50.960 the little blue guy beside her is really interesting because 2070 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:54.720 he kind of is the serious god of the Tondrack pantheon. 2071 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:57.880 He's the dog god. That's why you see a little 2072 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.279 dog even sitting beside him. But it's also her husband. 2073 01:57:01.239 --> 01:57:04.880 It's also Shiva, but it's Shiva in a very specific form. 2074 01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:08.239 Is Siva as smoke. So why am I saying that? 2075 01:57:08.279 --> 01:57:12.119 Because he is non generative. He's an acetic on the 2076 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:15.600 carnal ground, so he can lead her to greater knowledge, 2077 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:18.119 but she in and of herself does not possess it. 2078 01:57:18.279 --> 01:57:21.319 And this also corresponds to the chronic stories because he 2079 01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:25.359 is he gives her the tontras, but when he is 2080 01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.600 in the world or up at the carnoground either or 2081 01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:31.439 but when he's a little boy, he can't. He doesn't 2082 01:57:31.479 --> 01:57:35.239 say anything's there's a like a Siturnian quality and also 2083 01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:38.319 like a Rahu I always liking it to Neptune. It's 2084 01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:40.279 kind of like a little bit Neptunian, but he's not 2085 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:43.760 the he's kind of like the mysterious element of that 2086 01:57:44.479 --> 01:57:47.479 more so than he's not like really related to Neptune. 2087 01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:50.920 That's just a more conceptual understanding. But yeah, he's the 2088 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.439 dog god. He writes it. Usually it's a black dog, 2089 01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:57.479 but sometimes it can be any pariah dog, so like 2090 01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:01.000 any kind of like wild dog in the city. He's 2091 01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:05.199 associated with like very outcased carnal ground, like you're living 2092 01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:08.000 on a smash on it. But it's not necessarily transgressive. 2093 01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:13.319 It's just totally acetic, meaning totally non generative. So that's 2094 01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:17.039 one idea Okay, we can go the next one. Thank you, Nick, 2095 01:58:18.960 --> 01:58:19.399 thank you. 2096 01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:21.640 Okay. 2097 01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.000 So this is Shiva as the householder. So you could 2098 01:58:25.079 --> 01:58:28.960 say that when the goddess who is not not locks me. 2099 01:58:29.079 --> 01:58:31.279 I know I was talking a lot about Lockshmi, but 2100 01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:34.640 it's not. It is Pavarti. So this is when she 2101 01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:37.800 is a householder and they're all together, so at their 2102 01:58:37.840 --> 01:58:41.039 most coherent, you could even say. So it is interesting 2103 01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:44.640 because I even I wrote down in the chat bowl 2104 01:58:45.319 --> 01:58:49.479 and caw, well, he rides a bull. Shiva rides a bull, 2105 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:53.760 and she obviously can ride a lion, but there are 2106 01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.560 some forms of her where she does also ride a bull, 2107 01:58:57.039 --> 01:59:00.600 so very interesting. And his bull is obviously white. And 2108 01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:04.920 you're talking about milk, well, his worship is done with milk. 2109 01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:07.760 They use milk on that stone, so you can even 2110 01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.560 see it. That's why I chose this particular image. It's 2111 01:59:10.640 --> 01:59:14.600 it's the three lines with the red dot in between, 2112 01:59:15.239 --> 01:59:17.600 and you pour. It's a black stone. It's usually made 2113 01:59:17.600 --> 01:59:20.960 of black chloralite, and so you pour milk over it 2114 01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:24.960 and the milk appears blue, so it gives it like 2115 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:28.720 a turquoise kind of that's the god color, right as 2116 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:31.920 the turquoise or it can be lapis lazulai. It depends 2117 01:59:32.199 --> 01:59:34.520 in tntra. Sometimes they prefer lapis. 2118 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:37.920 And that's a lingum, correct, is that right? 2119 01:59:38.479 --> 01:59:41.840 Yeah, it's a shiva lingam. So it's it can be 2120 01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.000 said that he's at his most generative when he's a householder, 2121 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:48.279 but he's unhappy. That's how it's described. I'm not saying 2122 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:51.800 to take that literally, but he's described as unhappy as 2123 01:59:51.800 --> 01:59:52.520 a householder. 2124 01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:56.159 I was just going to point out the relationship between 2125 01:59:56.199 --> 02:00:00.239 the lingam and the obelisk, both having the lem meant 2126 02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.399 to the phallis line and the point when one viewed 2127 02:00:04.439 --> 02:00:05.000 from above. 2128 02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:10.640 No, that's a great point, Ethan. The thing is is 2129 02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:13.199 that his sons. You see his son sitting there with 2130 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:17.720 the peacock behind him, his son actually holds something that 2131 02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:21.159 could be described as obelisk like in structure. So it's 2132 02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:24.359 his magic spear, which is a vell. So see that 2133 02:00:24.439 --> 02:00:27.159 has a point. The lingam does not have a point. 2134 02:00:27.239 --> 02:00:30.720 And because it's non generative, meaning he's not and that's 2135 02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:33.359 why he's described as an acetic, because he's not interested 2136 02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:37.479 in perpetuating creation. He's interested in his own mind. So 2137 02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:40.359 that's why he actually goes off into the cardinal ground 2138 02:00:40.359 --> 02:00:45.319 is sick explore. He's like a magician. Rights he's well yogi, 2139 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:48.680 he's a he's the chief yoga or he's chief Yogi. 2140 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:49.199 Excuse me. 2141 02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:52.479 So he goes off into the cardinal ground to do yoga. 2142 02:00:52.560 --> 02:00:55.279 That's basically how it's described. So that's where he develops 2143 02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:58.359 tantra because it comes to him when he's surrounded by 2144 02:00:58.399 --> 02:01:03.520 all the ghosts and demons. But his son back can 2145 02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:05.439 be said to be obelisk like, and he is the 2146 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:08.479 god of logic and chess and all that stuff. 2147 02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:13.920 So the detail of the milk changing color when poured 2148 02:01:13.960 --> 02:01:15.960 on the shivl ingam that that's an amazing detail. 2149 02:01:15.960 --> 02:01:16.119 Man. 2150 02:01:16.159 --> 02:01:17.319 I've never heard of that before. 2151 02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:21.159 And I saw that happen a number of times when 2152 02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:23.479 I was in India, and you're totally right. 2153 02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:25.920 I never made that connection. But that's really brilliant. 2154 02:01:27.079 --> 02:01:30.319 Oh thanks many. I appreciate that. You know that just 2155 02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:32.479 I think that is just because I've seen it so 2156 02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:35.640 many times, U huh. And you know, I know the 2157 02:01:35.680 --> 02:01:38.359 colors are obviously from Buddhism, so I understand like how 2158 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:41.159 to kind of interpret it. And I've read all the contras, 2159 02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:43.640 not all the times but many contras. So I, you know, 2160 02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:48.760 I have a understanding of the processes even though even 2161 02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:51.359 in a normal pouja, right, because most people who go 2162 02:01:51.399 --> 02:01:53.119 to a pooja, it's like, but most people go to 2163 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:55.359 a mass, they don't really understand what's happening. 2164 02:01:55.600 --> 02:01:56.039 Mm hmm. 2165 02:01:56.319 --> 02:01:59.640 It's only like, right, so all the processes, even the 2166 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:02.760 priests don't know is understand especially I'm talking about Indian. 2167 02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:04.840 I'm not talking about anything Christian. I'm just talking about 2168 02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:07.600 normative Hinduism. A lot of the priests don't even understand 2169 02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:10.520 the processes. They might know the you know, the method 2170 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:13.920 of worship, the shastra, but they don't necessarily understand like 2171 02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:15.199 the different things they're doing. 2172 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:17.760 Mm hmmm, right, yeah, I know exactly. 2173 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:21.880 And it is interesting that since you brought that up, Mario, 2174 02:02:21.960 --> 02:02:24.159 he is considered to be the god of secret knowledge. 2175 02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:26.880 So that is that's what I was trying to say. 2176 02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:29.319 Of like tantra and yoga, that he is the god 2177 02:02:29.399 --> 02:02:31.520 of secret knowledge, and he wears the cruscent moon like 2178 02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:35.159 you guys were talking about the crust he wears's head. 2179 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:39.159 So there's actually a grouping of sixteen goddesses who also 2180 02:02:39.319 --> 02:02:41.640 wear the cruscent moon above their head. So we're going 2181 02:02:41.720 --> 02:02:43.439 to also end on that when we get to the 2182 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:48.840 last two. Is that the so those goddesses are called 2183 02:02:48.920 --> 02:02:51.760 niche goddesses. They refer to the different phases of the moon. 2184 02:02:51.840 --> 02:02:56.520 So there's sixteen like waxing and like whatever. It's that. 2185 02:02:56.640 --> 02:02:58.680 That's kind of how they're arranged. It's like a waxing 2186 02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:02.920 and waning cycle. So they are considered to be her daughters, 2187 02:03:03.680 --> 02:03:06.520 so that is also interesting, and they're like each one 2188 02:03:06.600 --> 02:03:09.399 is given like one or two nights and then they're 2189 02:03:09.479 --> 02:03:12.119 given that worship, but they're worship through her. So remember 2190 02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:14.920 I said that Tantra loves the number seven for her, 2191 02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:17.640 but also the number ten, So you could say that 2192 02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:21.720 this pairing when they're at four also corresponds to what 2193 02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:24.479 Robbie was saying. There is like this expression. This is 2194 02:03:24.560 --> 02:03:30.239 kind of like expansive. They're able to grant boons in 2195 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:33.520 the normative way. So for most people this is the 2196 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:37.119 image they'll have. This is a very normative image, except 2197 02:03:37.159 --> 02:03:40.279 that it includes the son who's sitting on the bottom 2198 02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:44.239 that is non normative. So I did choose something kind 2199 02:03:44.239 --> 02:03:47.680 of Tantra, so not necessarily intentionally, but I just did 2200 02:03:47.720 --> 02:03:51.520 think it was more interesting with the peacock king. Okay, 2201 02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:53.279 we can go the next one. Sorry, Nick, thank you. 2202 02:03:56.399 --> 02:03:56.560 Oh. 2203 02:03:56.600 --> 02:03:58.199 I did want to say one thing about the other 2204 02:03:58.199 --> 02:04:00.840 image is that he has a blue neck ring around 2205 02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:04.720 his neck. So that is a really important sort of 2206 02:04:04.800 --> 02:04:08.279 motif of Shiva's that it's called nili kantha. It refers 2207 02:04:08.319 --> 02:04:10.880 to this blue green ring and it can also refer 2208 02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:14.920 to a naga, so a snake. When he is wrapped 2209 02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:17.960 around his neck. It prevents the poison, which is the 2210 02:04:18.479 --> 02:04:21.720 sort of you could say the noxiousness of mercury or quicksilver. 2211 02:04:22.359 --> 02:04:25.720 So only mercury is actually not as toxic. I'm not 2212 02:04:25.720 --> 02:04:27.479 saying to anyone to use it, Please don't use it. 2213 02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:31.159 I'm just saying as toxic as perhaps is in the 2214 02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:35.880 popular consciousness. So, but there is a point where it 2215 02:04:35.920 --> 02:04:39.479 can become very toxic if you over the over application 2216 02:04:39.560 --> 02:04:41.920 of heat, and it takes a lot of heat to 2217 02:04:42.000 --> 02:04:46.960 make it offset. So basically that's kind of the idea. 2218 02:04:47.079 --> 02:04:50.159 It's like, then there's so much heat that the kind 2219 02:04:50.199 --> 02:04:55.399 of noxious fumes of quicksilver sort of like overtake the 2220 02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:58.760 heavens and then the gods fear for their collapse. So 2221 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:02.239 he swallows, and then that's why he has the blue 2222 02:05:02.479 --> 02:05:07.960 ring around us. Okay, so this is the star. So basically, 2223 02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:09.560 this is what I was thinking when you guys were 2224 02:05:09.560 --> 02:05:13.359 doing all the tarot stuff, was this is the yontra. 2225 02:05:13.880 --> 02:05:18.520 So this is the magic seal of this very important goddess. 2226 02:05:18.560 --> 02:05:21.600 So I have named like four goddesses. I believe this 2227 02:05:21.680 --> 02:05:25.199 is the highest expression of them, of the goddesses, of 2228 02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:28.279 all the goddesses that I've described, but this is the 2229 02:05:28.359 --> 02:05:32.880 highest expression because it's Yantra. It's formless. I mean, yes, 2230 02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:35.600 obviously has a form, but it's on a copper sheet 2231 02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:38.920 as well, and that's also very venus, very nat sock 2232 02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:43.399 and the star obviously. So the five pointed thing, which 2233 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:47.119 was also interesting, and Nick brought that up definitely, Mario 2234 02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:51.399 brought that up, Robbie talked about it, Ethan talked about it. 2235 02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:55.199 It's the five purified elements in this formation, so not 2236 02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:58.840 always his time is really important, right because it's also 2237 02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:03.000 her husband. But you could say that it's the five 2238 02:06:03.039 --> 02:06:06.640 purified elements, meaning that his chakra. But we're using a 2239 02:06:06.680 --> 02:06:11.840 five point in system. It's all rectified in her and 2240 02:06:11.880 --> 02:06:15.079 then it's expressed in sound. So that's kind of the 2241 02:06:15.159 --> 02:06:19.760 highest expression of venus in contract thinking. It's sound. 2242 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:23.159 I had that like thought while just staring at it 2243 02:06:23.199 --> 02:06:25.199 was like, just with the geometry and stuff, with the 2244 02:06:25.239 --> 02:06:27.640 five into the six and with the five, it's like 2245 02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:28.720 the five. 2246 02:06:28.520 --> 02:06:30.680 Can go into the six more than the six can 2247 02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:31.199 go into. 2248 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:33.880 The five, and the six is the structure that holds 2249 02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:38.079 the energy the five to create the harmony. So I 2250 02:06:38.199 --> 02:06:41.439 was just you just validated that for me. I don't 2251 02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:43.159 know if I explained my thoughts well, but you really 2252 02:06:43.239 --> 02:06:44.159 validated that for me. 2253 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:47.159 No, you absolutely did. That's so interesting you said that 2254 02:06:47.239 --> 02:06:50.680 TJ because she is this goddess for Ahi, which we're 2255 02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:53.840 gonna see image of her next. She's actually considered to 2256 02:06:53.840 --> 02:06:57.119 be the father goddess of Tntra. Even though she's a goddess, 2257 02:06:57.720 --> 02:07:02.079 she's the father goddess, So she's generative at one point, 2258 02:07:02.960 --> 02:07:05.399 but not in the whole you could say, in the 2259 02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:08.760 whole way, not in her whole story or Leela, but 2260 02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:12.279 as the Verahi, she is generative, but it's a masculine 2261 02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:16.520 generativeness even though she's female. So this is explained by 2262 02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:18.560 the fact that she could be considered to be like 2263 02:07:18.840 --> 02:07:21.680 a tree of night goddess, a klepalithic goddess because she 2264 02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:24.960 is the goddess of the smush on her. So she 2265 02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:29.119 rises through all the klipas or all the tree of death, 2266 02:07:29.159 --> 02:07:32.640 and then she arises back. Just like I said, there's 2267 02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:36.439 like a clockwise and a counterclockwise element to venus or 2268 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:40.680 Mamrio obviously said that too, but yeah, yeah, so she 2269 02:07:40.840 --> 02:07:44.079 climbs up and so then she can climb the whole 2270 02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:46.760 tree like she can climb all the way up. But 2271 02:07:46.960 --> 02:07:50.520 it's because she's gone through this experience. So that's what 2272 02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:52.960 makes her the most important, because she's learned to the 2273 02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:58.520 saying is that she can liberate light in matter with sound, 2274 02:07:58.800 --> 02:08:02.439 So that takes all four elements plus mind, which is 2275 02:08:02.479 --> 02:08:06.239 really akasha the space. So what is a better way 2276 02:08:06.279 --> 02:08:09.000 to trap four elements in space is with a word, 2277 02:08:09.680 --> 02:08:14.199 but it's really sound, So yeah, okay, So that's pretty 2278 02:08:14.239 --> 02:08:17.920 much the explanation. That's why it's also anti and iconic 2279 02:08:18.720 --> 02:08:24.319 because it's there's no image. It's just that's how this 2280 02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:30.000 is the true contric warshaw beyond image, no idol. But interestingly, 2281 02:08:30.640 --> 02:08:35.520 always in the South, these are always installed underneath or 2282 02:08:35.560 --> 02:08:37.720 on the ceiling. If you go to a Buddhist temple. 2283 02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:40.159 These will be installed on the ceiling of the images 2284 02:08:40.680 --> 02:08:44.760 because this is considered to be the true image. Cool, okay, 2285 02:08:44.840 --> 02:08:50.560 we can do the last one, thinks man. So I 2286 02:08:50.600 --> 02:08:53.239 did choose this one specifically because of what Nick said 2287 02:08:53.399 --> 02:08:58.640 was about netsak Geverra, red and green having a relationship. Well, 2288 02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:02.399 even it's interesting because even she's wearing the green undershirt, 2289 02:09:02.560 --> 02:09:05.399 so it's like green as the foundation, but the outer 2290 02:09:05.560 --> 02:09:08.880 sorry is red, so it's like the it's almost like 2291 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:12.079 the red is perceiving her, the red is looking at 2292 02:09:12.079 --> 02:09:14.960 her and sort pouring over her. So I don't know, 2293 02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.359 I thought that was interesting. But you can see like 2294 02:09:17.439 --> 02:09:21.000 she's even standing on the star, because what is she? 2295 02:09:21.000 --> 02:09:25.840 She's the greater expression of space, or at least of 2296 02:09:25.880 --> 02:09:28.760 the way to put the four elements or five elements 2297 02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:33.760 into space. So interestingly, to go along with Mario's point, 2298 02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:36.800 I don't know, Mario feels complicated for you, but she is. 2299 02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:39.640 Although I chose an image where she's depicted as throned, 2300 02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:43.359 she I can actually also be dancing, so she can 2301 02:09:43.399 --> 02:09:47.399 be both, So I think that's also interesting. But she's 2302 02:09:47.439 --> 02:09:49.399 the most powerful if you're going to say, like what 2303 02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:52.760 is the most powerful contrick we'll call it undoing air 2304 02:09:52.880 --> 02:09:56.720 quotes archetype of Venus. This is the most powerful condrac 2305 02:09:56.800 --> 02:09:59.840 archetype of Venus because she can be accessed in both 2306 02:09:59.880 --> 02:10:03.880 no normative and non normative kinds of Hinduism, as well 2307 02:10:03.920 --> 02:10:09.199 as the most important goddess in Buddhism, second only to Tara. 2308 02:10:10.039 --> 02:10:13.159 So that's what I have. Thanks guys, Yeah, thank you. 2309 02:10:13.880 --> 02:10:14.560 That was awesome. 2310 02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:19.680 Yeah, that was fantastic. Thank you. That was was amazing. 2311 02:10:21.560 --> 02:10:29.720 Apprecire h. Is there anything else anybody else? What did it? 2312 02:10:32.960 --> 02:10:35.039 I don't think so. There are so many things, though, Jim, 2313 02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:37.159 that you brought up that we could riff on for 2314 02:10:37.359 --> 02:10:39.880 a really long time. And I'm such a visual person 2315 02:10:40.000 --> 02:10:44.279 that you bringing these things to the table is super valuable. 2316 02:10:44.479 --> 02:10:46.439 So I was taking screenshots and stuff. 2317 02:10:46.960 --> 02:10:47.159 Yeah. 2318 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:52.560 Yeah, both those presentations were amazing. For a little levity. 2319 02:10:52.640 --> 02:10:56.600 I thought that the god of seriousness in that Shiva 2320 02:10:56.720 --> 02:11:00.399 form him to have that funny dog is a very funny. 2321 02:11:02.600 --> 02:11:04.680 Yeah. No, it's really interesting that you bring that up, 2322 02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:08.560 even because he's childlike, right, so he he has like 2323 02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:11.119 an element of play. I know, I've heard Robbie say 2324 02:11:11.159 --> 02:11:12.760 that word before. I say, yeah, that's what he is. 2325 02:11:12.800 --> 02:11:15.039 He's like there's an element like I'm gonna lead you 2326 02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:16.920 to the cardinal ground, but it's not going to be 2327 02:11:17.319 --> 02:11:20.800 You're gonna see terrifying things, but I'm not necessarily terrifying 2328 02:11:20.880 --> 02:11:23.079 in the way I'm presenting myself well. 2329 02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:28.720 And interestingly, she was riding the tiger, but if you 2330 02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:32.159 go back to Mother Kibbili, she rides the lion and 2331 02:11:32.359 --> 02:11:37.560 Addis runs along with her with a dog at his feet, 2332 02:11:38.359 --> 02:11:41.680 which I think very much relates to the full card 2333 02:11:41.760 --> 02:11:42.760 running off the cliff. 2334 02:11:44.000 --> 02:11:46.760 Oh yeah, he definitely is. I would even place him 2335 02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:51.600 att Chuck mat personally. Yeah, so no, I agree with 2336 02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:53.920 that one hundred percent. And with the full Card. That's 2337 02:11:54.159 --> 02:11:56.920 because he he's like, he is very choked. 2338 02:11:56.960 --> 02:11:57.000 Ma. 2339 02:11:57.479 --> 02:11:59.760 He's like a manifestation of the smoke you could say, 2340 02:11:59.760 --> 02:12:03.399 in the world. But he he can travel through the sufferer, 2341 02:12:03.479 --> 02:12:06.199 but he can't really. He can do little things. It's 2342 02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:09.960 like very there's a hode like mercurial like element to 2343 02:12:10.039 --> 02:12:13.359 him where he can kind of like he can influence 2344 02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:18.439 maybe things, but it's it's it's minor. It's not like, oh, 2345 02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:21.760 I'm gonna like, you know, the great thing, like a 2346 02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:24.680 childish state exactly. 2347 02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:30.720 All right, nice, Thank you very much. 2348 02:12:31.359 --> 02:12:33.000 There's actually a lot of eye stuff in there that 2349 02:12:33.039 --> 02:12:34.560 I just didn't get into it that maybe i'll talk 2350 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:37.359 to you about one, Dach. I don't want to come 2351 02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:40.039 on about it, but uh, thank you very much. I 2352 02:12:40.079 --> 02:12:41.760 really appreciate those visuals. 2353 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:44.720 Thank you all for coming on. 2354 02:12:45.520 --> 02:12:46.920 A little bit longer than I thought, but I mean 2355 02:12:46.920 --> 02:12:49.079 it was all solid salt stuff, so I appreciate you 2356 02:12:49.159 --> 02:12:52.760 all spending the time tonight to meet up again. We 2357 02:12:52.800 --> 02:12:55.159 got Ethan Intogo. His notes are in the bottom, his 2358 02:12:55.239 --> 02:12:58.560 links in the show notes. Frida Jinn as well. We've 2359 02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:02.800 got teaching down there, Robbie Marks and Marios. All their 2360 02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:05.840 links will be in the show notes. Thank you all again, 2361 02:13:06.159 --> 02:13:08.079 this is a great show. Can't wait to do the 2362 02:13:08.119 --> 02:13:11.720 next And until the next one, have everybody be well 2363 02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:12.079 later