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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray i WBS Costin's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, al, thank you very much. We are in

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<v Speaker 2>the nine o'clock hour tonight. Right now, it's nineh eight.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>this hour about Massachusetts, our home state, dear Massachusetts. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have a reason for this, and we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that in a moment. I'll tell you that coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at ten o'clock tonight, we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>with an expert, doctor Sandra Dalton Smith, the author of

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<v Speaker 2>Sacred Rest Recover your Life, Renew your energy, and Restore

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<v Speaker 2>your sanity. And we're going to talk about getting sleep

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<v Speaker 2>and getting rest, and it's so important and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that none of us really truly understand and appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>We had doctor Sandra Dalton Smith with us during the

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock hour within the last two or three weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just thought that she would be a great

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<v Speaker 2>guest for an hour, and that's happened. That happens a

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<v Speaker 2>lot as a matter of a couple of guests. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will head back to give you an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to ask questions. So that's what's going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>then at the eleven o'clock hour tonight we would do

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<v Speaker 2>what we call the twentieth hour. Even though I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>worked all five nights this week, there have been five

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<v Speaker 2>nights of nightside. Morgan White was in for me on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday and Tuesday night, and my shows this week were Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here all next week, by the way, fear not,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do twenty hours of nightside every week, and

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<v Speaker 2>we like to kind of end the week on a

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<v Speaker 2>lighter note at also the ten o'clock hour. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a note which hopefully is going to give

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<v Speaker 2>us some cause for thought and cause for a pause

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<v Speaker 2>for rest, the idea that all of us probably are

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<v Speaker 2>not getting the amount of sleep that we need. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we'll talk about a ten. So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>something that is near deer to my heart, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is the comwalth of Massachusetts. And there was a time

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<v Speaker 2>not so long ago when Massachusetts was colloquially referred to

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<v Speaker 2>as Taxachusetts. That was back in the nineteen eighties. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we had a series of Republican governors Weld and Salucci,

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<v Speaker 2>Acting Governor Jane Swift. Dare I say, Mitt Romney and

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Baker, and to a more or a lesser degree,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans tend to be a little bit more skeptical

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<v Speaker 2>about burdening wage earners, workers, people who get up every

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<v Speaker 2>day and do something earn their living. And not only

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government, but the state government wants to take

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<v Speaker 2>more and more and more. So today or tonight, I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to talk to you in Massachusetts about the

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<v Speaker 2>dilemma that we find ourselves in. And that dilemma is

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<v Speaker 2>that our government here in Massachusetts, and particularly our legislature,

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<v Speaker 2>about our government across the board, they have a hunger

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<v Speaker 2>and a need for more money every year. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many of you have gotten raises in the

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<v Speaker 2>last two or three years, but the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you is the government always in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>gets a raise now right now. Earlier this evening, I

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<v Speaker 2>received from the Media Relations Office of the Governor a synopsis,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a summary of the budget that

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<v Speaker 2>the Governor Heatley has proposed. They're characterizing per budget as

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine point six billion dollars. That's a lot of money, Okay. However, However,

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to a state website which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>the governor's budget FY twenty six recommendations. That website says

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<v Speaker 2>that the governor is recommending a state budget. Her recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>is nearly sixty two billion dollars, So there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a discrepancy there about two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars. One of the Boston newspapers today was suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that it's even higher than that. But whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>the state always seems to need more money. So now

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<v Speaker 2>at the Boston Globe, editorially, I think it's today, was

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<v Speaker 2>it yesterday? It's their editorial yesterday they finished up, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course the Globe is always in favor of tax increases,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's again needed, MBTA not necessarily needed as much education.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of needs here in the Commonwealth. But

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<v Speaker 2>for example, they finish up by saying lawmakers also need

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss whether they're willing to raise taxes to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the budget balanced. Healey's budget relies on three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twelve million dollars from new tax policies. Three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twelve million dollars. That's real money. It's about a third

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<v Speaker 2>of a billion dollars when you think about it. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, the state authorized a charitable donation tax deduction.

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<v Speaker 2>It had no limit, but now Healey is proposing capping

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<v Speaker 2>that deduction at five thousand dollars per filer. So what

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<v Speaker 2>that means is that in Massachusetts there are some very

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy people who make substantial donations to medical facilities, to universities,

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the big charities that we all are

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<v Speaker 2>very familiar with, United Way and others, boys clubs and

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<v Speaker 2>girls clubs and all of that. And it's a way

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<v Speaker 2>in which services can be provided to individuals whomever. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of charities, great charities here in Massachusetts. We

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<v Speaker 2>do our night Side Charity Combine every year, last two

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<v Speaker 2>hours of my broadcast year in late December. We have

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<v Speaker 2>done that now for this was our twelfth year that

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<v Speaker 2>we have done I believe was our twelfth in December

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<v Speaker 2>last month, December of twenty twenty four. And look, there

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<v Speaker 2>are people who might who make donations to charities of

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars and ten dollars or one hundred dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>is wonderful, uh, and it makes it's it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>good instinct. But then there are people who make donations

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see them of one hundred million dollars to this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the Harvard School of Public Health, and

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a charitable deduction which the voters passed

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<v Speaker 2>back in the year two thousand and three, and through

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<v Speaker 2>a number of governors and legislatures that was ignored and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was finally put into a play here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>For many, many years there was no charitable deductions allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning whatever charity charitable contribution you were to make it was,

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<v Speaker 2>it was great for the charity, but there was no

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<v Speaker 2>tax break for the donor. Well, now what they have

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do is to cap it. So that means,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a very wealthy person, you might still give

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<v Speaker 2>your one hundred million dollars to one of the big

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<v Speaker 2>teaching hospitals here in Boston, or you might say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, maybe I'll hold on to that money. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe since I'm being surrounded by taxes more and more

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<v Speaker 2>every year here in Massachusetts, and some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that will be taxed are going to be nicked nicotine,

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<v Speaker 2>different types of nicotine, a candy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it's almost as if that in Massachusetts we taxed

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<v Speaker 2>things anything that moves and anything that doesn't move, and

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<v Speaker 2>they just go out of their way. Their appetite is rapacious.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just it can never be satisfied here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>So you earn your money. And the question that I

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<v Speaker 2>want some of you to answer for me is how

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<v Speaker 2>much do you feel the government, the federal government and

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<v Speaker 2>the state government should take from your paychecks. That's really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of my bottom line question. Now you may say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really matter to me because whatever. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>it should, but that's okay. But I'll tell you who

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to matter to. And we've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 2>and i'd love to hear those of you who are

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<v Speaker 2>sports fans. You were going to see Boston sports teams,

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<v Speaker 2>professional sports teams, the Celtics, the Bruins, the Red Sox,

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't have the big, multimillion dollar year contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna see more and more professional athletes say hey,

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<v Speaker 2>and athletes agents say I'm not having my guy sign

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<v Speaker 2>with the Red Sox or the Yankees, that those taxes

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<v Speaker 2>are out of you know, I'm going to have them

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<v Speaker 2>sign up with the Texas Rangers, or they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>sign up with the Tampa Bay Devil, the Tampa Bay Rays,

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<v Speaker 2>or in cities and in states where where the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of taxes that they pay on a big contract, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're signing a one hundred million dollar contract, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're conscious of how much of that money you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get as a pro athlete, and if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>close call, you know, the Red Sox we're chasing Juan Soto.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, not to get too derailed here in sports,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of the things we love about Massachusetts we

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<v Speaker 2>have good professional sports teams and we go to the Garden,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Gillect for the most part, or go to

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<v Speaker 2>Fenway Park and know that you're looking at a contending team. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that's going to go away. But even

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<v Speaker 2>more importantly, Massachusetts, Massachusetts is going to once again earn

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<v Speaker 2>the reputation of being Taxachusetts. It has already. We see

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<v Speaker 2>there's more people leaving Massachusetts. And the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Massachusetts are the people who earn more money because

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<v Speaker 2>tax policy does make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know some of you are going to say, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about tax policy. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about. If you have a question, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a call. I want to know from each of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do for a job, however much money you make,

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<v Speaker 2>how much money do you feel at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year does the government meaning the Feds and the state,

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<v Speaker 2>And in some cases I guess well, in many cases

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<v Speaker 2>your town's particularly if you own a home, what percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of your money do you feel the government should have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to take from you? That's the question you

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<v Speaker 2>have the answers six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. And

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<v Speaker 2>if there's anyone listening out there tonight who have moved

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<v Speaker 2>out of Massachusetts in whole or in part because of

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<v Speaker 2>the tax policies here, love to hear from you. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to identify yourself. You could use a different

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<v Speaker 2>name if you want, tell me what state you've moved to,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what you do for a living, and tell

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<v Speaker 2>me why you moved. It's as simple as that. All

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<v Speaker 2>of these it is just the question of I want

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<v Speaker 2>the government out of people's pockets. Okay, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>The government has some great responsibilities that I think all

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<v Speaker 2>of us agree are necessary, but it just seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me that they will get in your pocket every way,

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's the candy bar that you that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to buy, the small little pleasures of life. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to allow mount more cameras, more speed cameras, to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that if you're caught speeding, they want to penalize you,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to tax you, particularly if you're someone

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<v Speaker 2>who earns a living, if you're a citizen and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a worker, or for that matter, if you're a non

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<v Speaker 2>citizen and you're a worker and you're getting a paycheck

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to being paid under the table, you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>some taxes. How much do you think the government should

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<v Speaker 2>extract from you? Just you? I will be back on Nightside. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the numbers real? Really? See six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty Those are the two numbers will get you through.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has nothing to do, in my opinion, with

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats and Republicans. This has everything to do with you

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<v Speaker 2>and how much you're how much you need to pay

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<v Speaker 2>to government to in order to have the privilege of

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<v Speaker 2>living in Massachusetts. Back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Taxes. We have. We fought a revolution about this, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way back in the late seventeen hundreds, No taxation

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<v Speaker 2>without representation. Remember that was the cry of the patriots,

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<v Speaker 2>not the current New England patriots. No no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>the original patriots, ladies and gentlemen. So I just want

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<v Speaker 2>fair share. No one defines what fair share means. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some people fair share means everything. Some people it might

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<v Speaker 2>mean very little. But love to know, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>fair share. Let's go. Let me go to John and Deanna. Hey, John, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you tonight? Welcome? Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Before you get to the topic on hand, just a

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<v Speaker 4>program may suggest I wish your station would spend at

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<v Speaker 4>least an hour week for more government waste, government fraud

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<v Speaker 4>people calling in. I think we all know somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>do nothing, They get a ridiculous compensation package. Everything costs

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<v Speaker 4>more Massachusetts electricity, auto insurance, and obviously taxes too. So

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<v Speaker 4>but to address your question, my opinion, we should have

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<v Speaker 4>a higher skin of deduction. I'm abitryly just picking like

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred thousand. The first hundred thousand your tax free.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a sales tax, you should be able to

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<v Speaker 4>make pay all our state's expenses based on that sales tax.

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<v Speaker 4>Although wait, we made double tax and we know, like

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<v Speaker 4>how many times you hear we want to raise the

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<v Speaker 4>gas tax when there's no accountability for the current revenue

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<v Speaker 4>from gas tax, the roads get done, nothing's getting repaired,

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<v Speaker 4>and where are our tax dollars going?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and enough. I wish, I wish I had a

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this. I've spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>more cold weather the further north you go. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>their roads are better than the roads in Massachusetts, and

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<v Speaker 2>they keep those roads better at about a third of

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, within the last week that that Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 4>If somebody knows this, please call him. We get electricity

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<v Speaker 4>off the same grid, but for some reason, New Hampshire's

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<v Speaker 4>electricity is a fraction of what Massachusetts cost. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You what, I'll try to look into that. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that you know they've former governor for eight years

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<v Speaker 2>was Kristanunu And Kristan Unho is a business guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>if he thought that he could get rates lowered for

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<v Speaker 2>his consumers in New Hampshire, I'm sure he probably came

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his constituents. I don't know, think the governor.

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<v Speaker 4>But when the governor's doing, not the new governor bringing

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<v Speaker 4>up trying to get all the Massachusetts businesses to move

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<v Speaker 4>to New Hampshire and rightfully sew it a day. One

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<v Speaker 4>last thing came when you said that fair ship. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I've been saying the same thing when Biden used

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<v Speaker 4>to say it. Obama used to say it. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care Republican the Democrat has it, Can you please define it?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to define it because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>and most of my listeners think it's like everybody should

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<v Speaker 2>pay the fair share. Yo, how much is that? Ooh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for me it's like two percent, but for

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<v Speaker 2>you it's on fifty five percent. I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's And if you're not if you last this year,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're not illegal, and you make you a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>you pay no taxes. Good for you. You know that's

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<v Speaker 4>the law. Right, you'll go up with a tax law change.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I'm a big I'm a big believer and

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<v Speaker 2>a flat tax. Meaning you you talk about all the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate loopholes in the federal you know, taxes and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and the K Street lobbyist down in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason all those people get there and get

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<v Speaker 2>politicians who write the Internal Revenue Code is they want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a tax break for their industry. Want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a tax break for this tax break for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have anyone representing us down there except members

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<v Speaker 2>of Congress, and here in Massachusetts, very few of them

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<v Speaker 2>really interested in looking out for me or you. They

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the way it is. They're down there. But

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<v Speaker 2>but if you have a flat tax, you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, anybody who makes up to let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand dollars a year, doesn't pay any tax on

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<v Speaker 2>the first seventy thousand dollars. An absolute deduction, a deduction

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<v Speaker 2>on that across the board. Everybody gets that off. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you begin to say, Okay, everybody's gonna pay. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen different figures twelve percent, thirteen percent. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>if you're making ten million dollars a year, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay thirteen percent on that doesn't matter what investments you make.

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<v Speaker 2>No loopholes, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no deductions, no credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahs simple as that. And that would be a fair share.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not what they want. The people who are

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<v Speaker 2>who are mouthing the platitude fair share, they want us.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're really saying is soak the rich.

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<v Speaker 4>And guess what I guarantee I think again, those people

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<v Speaker 4>who are saying pay your fair share, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 4>they're not paying their fair share of taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them aren't paying anything exactly because they're the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who are outside demonstrating in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>week on a Wednesday morning. Anyway, John, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>call my show more off and I love you spirit man.

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<v Speaker 2>And when's the last time you called this show?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, probably a week or two ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, keep keep the pace up then, I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. Thank you so much. Okay, thank you, Toby.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's an honest man too. We got news at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour coming up. It's nine to

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one. We're a little bit late. We will talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this only until nine o'clock. So if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a different point of view, if you think that rich

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<v Speaker 2>people should pay substantially more than they're paying now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe in soak the rich, come on, tell me why,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why? At what point do you stop soaking

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<v Speaker 2>them or do you just soak them until they say,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the tax policies and I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the weather, and I'm heading south back on nightside. The

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<v Speaker 2>only line that's well, they got one line at six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty back on nightside right after this, and ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you, I want to hear from you, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my calls at this point, most of them

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be mail. I want to hear females on this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. What what what is the fee? What's

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<v Speaker 2>Back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's get back to the calls. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to this, says doctor Silo in Lowell. Doctor Silo,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you that type of doctor?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 5>Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of doctor?

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<v Speaker 4>If I could ask, I do engineering, energy, research, and

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<v Speaker 4>renewable resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent? So tell us what uh what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>of Massachusetts tax policies?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, this is gonna be short and sweet. My

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<v Speaker 4>personal thing is, yeah, I've lived in mass all my life,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can put in forty years if I I've

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<v Speaker 4>been in mass plus. I believe I believe that my

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<v Speaker 4>own this is just my own personal opinion. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a hidden, a hidden corruption in the tax

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<v Speaker 4>system in the state. And the reason I say there

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<v Speaker 4>is because I mean there's no oversight to determine what

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm not going I'm not going into

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<v Speaker 4>explaining to you know, residents of mass of what we're

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<v Speaker 4>taxed for. We're taxed for damned near everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, as they said, there's the tax doctor silo,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that moves or anything that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Move exactly, and and and there there needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of oversight, Like I see a position where

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<v Speaker 4>they say, okay, we're going to list all the all

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<v Speaker 4>the monetary requirements that the state needs to run the state,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they need the list where the money comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have some good news for you actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm being very serious when I say that we

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<v Speaker 2>have a position for that responsibility who we elect every

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<v Speaker 2>four years. It's a state auditor. And we finally have

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<v Speaker 2>a state auditor and auditor Diana does Ugly, who happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be a Democrat, by the way, who wants to audit,

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<v Speaker 2>amongst other things, the legislature and their stonewallinger.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know that this is what I mean. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't want they don't want any oversight. And I look

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<v Speaker 4>at it. I've heard about that, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>actually we voted on it, and we said yes, she

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<v Speaker 4>should be able to she should be able to audit you.

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<v Speaker 4>Because see, the thing people are, the citizens of mass

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<v Speaker 4>needs to realize is look, if you're up in Beacon

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<v Speaker 4>got to audit you, you should say, Okay, I ain't got

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<v Speaker 4>no problems with that. But if you if you want,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to put some kind of shield or barrier

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<v Speaker 4>up so you can't be audited, then you must have

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of hidden corruption in there. That's what I

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<v Speaker 4>would think, and I think everybody in the all citizens

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't it be great if someday someone you get a

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<v Speaker 2>letter from the I R S that says we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to audit you. Did you could say what the legislature

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<v Speaker 2>says is nope, you kin'd audit me.

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<v Speaker 4>That, Well, we can't, we can't do that. We we

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<v Speaker 4>know we file uh, you know, off off the top

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<v Speaker 4>of my head. If you get a letter from the

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<v Speaker 4>I R S saying you owe a certain amount of money,

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<v Speaker 4>you can file a hardship form. And most of the

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<v Speaker 4>time the I R S will say, okay, we understand,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty reasonable. Now, maybe that's kind of strange for me

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<v Speaker 4>to say that, but I think they're kind of reasonable.

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<v Speaker 4>But they have oversight. The State Master doesn't have no

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<v Speaker 4>But they say, oh no, you can't audit us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that take me saying we've had the state auditor

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<v Speaker 2>on the program on several occasions and we stand shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>state legislature, and we'll have her back.

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<v Speaker 4>That's no promise, right, So why do you why do

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<v Speaker 4>why would you even deny her the chance to go

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<v Speaker 4>in there and audit you if you weren't doing something wrong? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course it does. But what they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>legislative branch, and we should not be audited by.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that doesn't to me. To me as a as

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<v Speaker 4>a citizen that lives here, you know you you can

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<v Speaker 4>be audited. I don't care who you are or what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of powers you have. And Beacon Hill, if if

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<v Speaker 4>the government or the or the people say Hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we want you to be audited. Now, if you let

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<v Speaker 4>the audit go through and just say yeah, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to give you whatever you need, most people would say, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well they must be doing their job. But if, for if,

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<v Speaker 4>if you even think about saying no, people are going

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<v Speaker 4>to think, well, you must have some kind of corruption

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<v Speaker 4>going on in there, because that's what I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No. You know, first of all, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever called my show before, so I want to

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<v Speaker 2>welcome that I have that you haven't. Well, your first

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<v Speaker 2>time caller, we give you a round of applause here

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<v Speaker 2>from a digital studio audience. You understanding ovation.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd listen to your show all the time. When I

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<v Speaker 4>come back from work. I usually get out, like at

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<v Speaker 4>eleven thirty at one of my jobs, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>turn you on and I say, man, I got to

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<v Speaker 4>call this guy Dan for something, and this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, you hit a home run tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you come back and step into the batter's box again. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I really mean that. Thank you, doctor Silo, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Great night, Youtobe YouTube, take care, bye bye you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Let me go to jose In Braintree. Jose,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing pretty well. Oh Dan, I got I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>tell you.

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<v Speaker 6>I live in the town a brainch where they test

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<v Speaker 6>the property test or increase.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>The voters did that just to keep the jobs for

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<v Speaker 6>like schools and like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Just in general, the public works.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have a problem, pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you. Very fine, very well, you go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead. I'm just go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>And so just just in the year this this year,

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<v Speaker 6>my property tax went up three hundred dollars a quarter.

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<v Speaker 6>So it okay, that being said, is like your first

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<v Speaker 6>college said, where's these taxes going? Like as soon as

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<v Speaker 6>the dollars exchange your tax on it with the receiver

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<v Speaker 6>and the person paying. So it's it's quite upsetting. Like

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care what what what party you with, Republican

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<v Speaker 6>or Democrat. We're tired of this. We're tired of this

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<v Speaker 6>massive it's it's ridiculous. Like wherever you turn, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound like, Jose, you sound like a young guy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how old you are, but when when

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<v Speaker 2>you're how much twenty five?

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<v Speaker 4>You said, thirty five, thirty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well you're you're a young guy. You're half my age.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was your age. Back many years ago, Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>was called Taxachusetts because they just had these insane policies

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<v Speaker 2>and they tax more now than they ever did, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can. They want to go up on everything. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have pretty soon. Cameras on roads, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you make a turn, you know, you go through a

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<v Speaker 2>red light or through a yellow light, or you don't

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<v Speaker 2>stop or whatever, they'll have your that's a form of taxation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously not technically it's taxation, but it's another

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<v Speaker 2>way with the government's going to get their hand in

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<v Speaker 2>your pocket. They think it's worth it to put the

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<v Speaker 2>cameras up, hire more people, to to send out tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to people, bills to people. You know, it's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to force people to leave Massachusetts. You know, I've lived

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<v Speaker 2>here my entire life too, But you get to a

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<v Speaker 2>point where you say, you know what, enough is enough,

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<v Speaker 2>No moss, no moss.

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<v Speaker 6>I lived here all my life, and each day I'm

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<v Speaker 6>closer and close to looking into a warmer state that

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<v Speaker 6>the taxes aren't crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, there's a bunch of them. Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>There yea, and again people, you know, people have had

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<v Speaker 2>that choice. What do you think in all honesty, don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how much you make or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. What do you think would be a

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<v Speaker 2>fair amount of taxes. Let's say for every thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>that you earn, and you work, so you get up

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<v Speaker 2>every day, five days a week or whatever whatever, how

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<v Speaker 2>many days a week out of one thousand dollars, how

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<v Speaker 2>much should the government be able to take out of

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<v Speaker 2>your pocket, both in terms of federal, state, and local

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<v Speaker 2>What should it add up two d.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm okay with a quarter of it, and totally I'm

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<v Speaker 4>okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I think that's a reasonable figure. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>have property taxes. You live in brain Tree, you have

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes, you have state income taxes, you have federal

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<v Speaker 2>income taxes, and of course you also pay a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of taxes. Every time you go to the supermarket, there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sales tax on this or sale or you

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<v Speaker 2>know different you know, different sales taxes. They're gasoline taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>When you pay you know, two ninety or two ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five for gallon of gasoline, a good portion of that

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<v Speaker 2>goes to state. In federal taxes. You don't even really

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<v Speaker 2>most people don't even realize that you probably do. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's fairly substantial taxes by the way, both federal

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<v Speaker 2>and state, on every gallon of gasoline that you put

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<v Speaker 2>in your car so you can afford to go and

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<v Speaker 2>drive to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly what you're saying. This is one thing I

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<v Speaker 4>want people to be careful with as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Like if you ever pay your ex tax by cash? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>if you ever do that by cash, I believe the

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<v Speaker 7>person that the people that take care of the state.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's Kelly Ryan that take care of the payment.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, There's been numerous the times that.

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<v Speaker 6>That I've paid.

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<v Speaker 4>It's which which is my fault?

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<v Speaker 6>I paid the XO tax in cash at like when

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<v Speaker 6>I lived in Boston at City Hall or in Brainstreet.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that. Never do that. You got to always

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<v Speaker 2>on that use a check. Okay, that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the safest lesson.

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<v Speaker 6>Let'son learned.

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<v Speaker 2>He Jose, thank you so much, Thank Jose, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for Have you called before? Is this your first time?

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<v Speaker 4>I called?

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<v Speaker 6>When when I first uh, when I was eighteen, when

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<v Speaker 6>I first voted. We we we had a conversation so

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<v Speaker 6>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I've only been in the year here. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>my eighteenth year. So I I want you to come

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<v Speaker 2>back more often, because eighteen years from now, Jose, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be retired.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love people.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved your call. Get out and run for public office.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of work do you do? Don't just tell

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me where you work, but what type of

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<v Speaker 2>work do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a commercial driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Good for you, well, good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the backbone. I have a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>named Steve who's a long haul truck driver, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and a fellow named sterling out in South Dakota who

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<v Speaker 2>drives all over the country. You guys are the backboat

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<v Speaker 2>of the country because there's nothing that I buy that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys don't transport to the stores that I go

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<v Speaker 2>to buy. So thank you for what you do. You

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<v Speaker 2>are the backboat of this country, my friend. Thank you, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks than Jose. Good night. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Those are the line. Those are the only

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<v Speaker 2>lines that are open right now. I got coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>I got JJ, and I got Terry, got a little

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<v Speaker 2>root for you. Give me a call. We're gonna change time.

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<v Speaker 2>Topics of ten. Going to talk about how to get

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<v Speaker 2>better rest, how to get better sleep. We all need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back on nights Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones. You go, let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>JJ in Winchester. JJ. Welcome. How are I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you well? I'm doing well. Thanks stan So. To

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<v Speaker 3>answer your question, I think you know me well enough

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<v Speaker 3>to know what I'm about to say. Zero percent income

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<v Speaker 3>tax zero It's the worst thing they could ever do

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<v Speaker 3>to the Constitution at an amendment like that. Get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And also, you know, the people have to

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<v Speaker 3>really understand what is the proper role of government. Is

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<v Speaker 3>the government's jobbed the vibe for us? Well, then the

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<v Speaker 3>government people away from us. Too big enough to give

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<v Speaker 3>us everything, they're big enough to take it all away

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The government giveth and the government takes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way I like the way you said it, though, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>You've been saying it a long time, and I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>The government that is the smallest governs the best. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, maybe change it around a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know what I means.

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<v Speaker 4>And a.

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<v Speaker 3>Vigilant because why should they a group of elite representatives

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<v Speaker 3>both themselves raises decide what should be spent on, what

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<v Speaker 3>the money should be spent on. No, let's all look

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<v Speaker 3>at what is money really being spent on? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>really efficient? Is it really necessary?

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One of the things that you can do,

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<v Speaker 2>UH is you know someone will say, well, okay, JJ,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you raise money for police and fire and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. You can have what's called the value

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<v Speaker 2>added tax. They do a lot of that in Europe

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<v Speaker 2>where were people who buy Maseraties and Lamborghinis. They get

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<v Speaker 2>hit with a healthy tax on top of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, off of the cost of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And there could be you can have there's different ways

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<v Speaker 2>to raise money. Look, and I love what I love

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<v Speaker 2>JJ is the people who say people, the rich people

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<v Speaker 2>should pay their fair share. And they just ask them

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<v Speaker 2>what's their fair share?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna I'm gonna petition you to get a

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<v Speaker 3>guest on he's he's some sound Money defense league And

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<v Speaker 3>basically they make they help legislators in every state, including

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<v Speaker 3>Massachusetts or Taxachusets to start thinking about fiscal and UH

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<v Speaker 3>monetary policy. They go together because if you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>supporting firemen and police and all that necessary stuff, Well

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<v Speaker 3>I I okay, but what's what's happening is we have

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<v Speaker 3>a fiat currency that loses values, so we have to

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<v Speaker 3>spend more money to take care of those departments, and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know it's it's not efficient. We have to

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<v Speaker 3>we have to overhaul this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a lot of reform that is needed. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just love it when you say you have people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tax the rich, soak the rich. The next

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<v Speaker 2>one's going to be eat the rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I have someone on my Facebook friend list

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<v Speaker 3>that it keeps saying that, but you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>not it's it's an emotional slogan. It makes them feel good,

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<v Speaker 3>but in reality, it doesn't. It doesn't work. It just

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<v Speaker 3>causes job creators, which the wealthy are right, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>working for someone poorer than you, right, You're working with

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<v Speaker 3>someone created your job and had the capital do it

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<v Speaker 3>or the investment. We're driving them away. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>failed state. I hate to say that about Massachusetts because

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<v Speaker 3>I live here, but it's a failed state when you

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<v Speaker 3>have to continue to soak people working people continue to

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<v Speaker 3>take from them, and spend, spend, spend on stuff. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know what you're spending on. We don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw some of it, We saw some of the

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<v Speaker 2>no big contracts that out of the shelter, and that

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<v Speaker 2>has woken Governor Heally up. I think she's actually her

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<v Speaker 2>eyes have now been open to that. My favorite is

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that got the six million dollars no big contract,

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<v Speaker 2>the cab company on the Cape. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>cab rides. For six million dollars. You could ride a

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<v Speaker 2>cab probably all day long in the Cape and still

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<v Speaker 2>have money left over.

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<v Speaker 3>Remably, shouldn't be tacked in the rights to work, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be attacked seat. I think we need to have all

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<v Speaker 3>mind shift in our culture about what the role of

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<v Speaker 3>government should be, and then we can stop to solve

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<v Speaker 3>these problems. Thank you for coming this topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Then JJ, I should have I should have thought to

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<v Speaker 2>dedicate the show to you. But but send me the

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<v Speaker 2>information in that group. You got my email and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>look into it. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, thank you appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Terry down to the Cape. Terry,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you. How's everything? I bet it's

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<v Speaker 2>cold in the Cape tonight, Terry. No beach beaches, beach

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<v Speaker 2>activity this weekend's no, there's.

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<v Speaker 5>No swimming down here. Damn. How are you I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you'd have it.

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<v Speaker 3>A good winter.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not bad, honest. So I got a different

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<v Speaker 5>spin on this a little bit because I am not

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<v Speaker 5>an expert in state budgetary. It's too many storws for

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<v Speaker 5>me to think of. But one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>bothers me the most is fraud and corruption. I recently

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<v Speaker 5>learned that when Governor Sheerly took her oath of office

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<v Speaker 5>to be governor, she inherited a three billion dollar payback

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<v Speaker 5>to the federal government that's required.

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<v Speaker 2>It was two point one billion dollars that was incurred

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<v Speaker 2>under the Baker administration and.

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<v Speaker 5>Now but it was three billion, but because they used

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<v Speaker 5>COVID money to pay unemployment benefits, correct, and they shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 5>But Governor Baker, and excuse me, Governor Heally and her

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<v Speaker 5>team successfully negotiated that down to two point five billion

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<v Speaker 5>dollar payback over ten years. And then we have the

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<v Speaker 5>crisis with the Catholic Church and all of those hospitals

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<v Speaker 5>that went under because the Catholic Church direct restored them

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<v Speaker 5>to a for profit institution to run hospitals so that

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<v Speaker 5>they could make more money to pay out their nine

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty four million dollars settlement on the sexual

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<v Speaker 5>abuse issues that are ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing how all of these things have impacted internally.

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<v Speaker 2>You've raised some great points. Unfortunately, I got fifteen seconds left.

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<v Speaker 5>In the hour, and Dan, we got that tea that

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<v Speaker 5>ran out under the premious administration, under that horrible storm

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<v Speaker 5>they weren't prepared for, and that costs billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's coming out of our pockets.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, you bet.

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<v Speaker 2>You, you bet you. And it all comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>incompetent leadership in one form or another. Terry, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>let you run. Stay warm this weekend, Okay, he in.

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<v Speaker 5>Errig is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye Dan, good night, bye bye. All right, we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about how to get better sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>In the importance of sleep. I think there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting hour for everyone. No politics, everybody sleeps.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming back on Night Side