1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: M h, I walked straight, line, shackled chain, Oh gluesome girdie, 2 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,320 it's calling my name. 3 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,239 Speaker 2: There is no. 4 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: Mercy and this being a tenery juice as the hill 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,799 stream game wrangled the three. 6 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:47,799 Speaker 4: I'm here, be by me or die. 7 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,679 Speaker 3: Inside these walls, inside the wise. 8 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: And when no cris I'm sole. 9 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: By. 10 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a podcast 11 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,239 one forty two years in the making. The complete story 12 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:42,920 of America's Bloody is present. I'm Jim Chapman, and today 13 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,560 I am continuing with part two of People Hunter and 14 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,680 the last time that I left you, Ryan Sharp had 15 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:55,480 been arrested. In the subsequent questioning, he had admitted to 16 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,319 the murder of three men and the attempted murder of 17 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,239 another in an elaborate claim of collecting people tags people 18 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,800 hunting tags, if you will, so I'm going to pick 19 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:14,240 up there. And after confessing to all of this, of course, 20 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:18,479 it's straight to jail for thirty six year old Ryan Sharp. 21 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:23,199 And this is in the late fall. It's actually late 22 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,280 October of twenty seventeen, and a lot came out regarding 23 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:31,080 Ryan Sharp, publicly the fact that he owned a fairly 24 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,919 successful plumbing company, and the fact that his father was 25 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,840 retired law enforcement dominated local media as of this time. Now, 26 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,560 the investigation was swift. Police were able to find tons 27 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,560 of physical evidence, including matching casings found at the scene 28 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,080 to rifles that Sharp owned, so that his confession and 29 00:02:56,199 --> 00:02:58,639 all the other things they had, there's just no doubt 30 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:02,520 this guy committed these. So from there the charges were 31 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:07,919 first degree murder of Brad Di Franceski, second degree murder 32 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,159 of Tommy Bass, second degree murder of Carol Breeden, and 33 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,199 the attempted first degree murder of Buck Hornsby. Now, an 34 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,639 interesting thing happens on December fourteenth of twenty seventeen. A 35 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,479 woman that was living with Sharp when he was arrested, well, 36 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,400 she was arrested after stealing fourteen thousand, five hundred dollars 37 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,159 from Sharp's safe at his home. Sheriff Jeff Travis came 38 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:41,439 out in the media and said Robin Lender, who was 39 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,199 fifty four, broke into the safe and she stole money, 40 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,639 But he emphasized she was not involved in any of 41 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:56,000 the shootings whatsoever. So from there the legal gymnastics continued 42 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:02,000 and they got ridiculous. There was delay after delay, and 43 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:08,240 in April of twenty eighteen, East Feliciana Parish District Attorney 44 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Sam Daquilla. He opted not to seek the death penalty, 45 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,759 and he gave some reasons for this. Primarily, he cited 46 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:21,439 the time involved in prosecuting such a case. D Quilla 47 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,959 knew the defense they're gonna pull the mentally unfit for 48 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:31,519 trial defense. There was no doubt about that. And if 49 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,839 it's a death penalty case, that can stretch it out 50 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,639 for more than a decade. To be honest, maybe even 51 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,759 more than that. He was trying to get this guy 52 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 in jail at least for the rest of his life. Look, 53 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,519 I'm not saying I agree with it. I don't know 54 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,199 what the family's thoughts were on this. Personally, to me, 55 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,120 if anybody deserves the death penalty, it's people that commit 56 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,040 crimes like this on any human beings. But they had 57 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,560 their reasons and that's what they were going with life 58 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,879 in prison. He let the defense know that as well. 59 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:13,879 So time moves on. In nearly two years after the killing, 60 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,720 jury selection finally starts in East Feliciana Parish and the 61 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,240 trial started in the winter of twenty nineteen. Now, this 62 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:27,680 trial took about a week to complete and when Daquilla 63 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:32,399 opened the trial, he argued that Sharp took plenty of 64 00:05:32,519 --> 00:05:37,720 steps to not get caught, such as destroying or throwing 65 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,160 away ballistic evidence like bullets, and you heard that in 66 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,399 his confession. He even mentioned that he took one of 67 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,240 the shotgun shells that had flew in the back of 68 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,680 his truck and he had burned it or threw it 69 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:53,079 in a fire to get rid of the evidence, and 70 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,480 then disposed of the brass. He also mentioned during his 71 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:59,680 confession that he intentionally left his cell f und at 72 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 home so he could not be tracked or didn't have 73 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,519 to worry about being tracked, and he said he would 74 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 even pull his battery out of his celf, and at 75 00:06:07,079 --> 00:06:10,759 times he mentioned that he would circle the homes before 76 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,120 shooting the victims to make sure that no witnesses would 77 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:19,959 be present. All of those things show what premeditation of 78 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:23,720 some sort that's important. Why is it important, Well, it 79 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:30,680 proves he's sane, because an insane person by definition, does 80 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,560 not know what they are doing is wrong, same as 81 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:41,279 someone who claims temporary insanity, which was incidentally exactly Ryan 82 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:47,000 Sharp's plea not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. The 83 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:50,199 defense also made claims that in the moss leading up 84 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,040 to the shootings, he became detached from friends and family, 85 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,800 and that he started neglecting his plumbing business. They used 86 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,879 examples of how Sharp became very paranoid and said he 87 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:09,160 had no memory of the shootings. So the entire task 88 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,959 of the jury in this case was not to determine 89 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,720 so much whether Sharp committed these shootings. That was clear, 90 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,560 he confessed to it. The only real determination they had 91 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,839 to make was whether he knew that what he was 92 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,480 doing was wrong when he committed those shootings. And I 93 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,959 want to mention the support quickly that all the families 94 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,360 had for each other in this case, because it's worth 95 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:37,399 pointing out now, although this was a trial that was 96 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:43,639 only for the killing of Bradde Franceskey, every family affected 97 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,879 by the actions were there throughout the trial. All the 98 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,920 physical evidence was shown, including the interrogation video I played 99 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:56,240 you last week, which I just cannot imagine how hard 100 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:58,879 that was for the families to hear, I mean, the 101 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,560 graphic detail tales of that in court. As far as 102 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,839 the defense, only five witnesses were called, all essentially speaking 103 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:12,120 to Sharp's mental state. These witnesses included his father, and 104 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:16,600 some friends and a couple of expert witnesses. And when 105 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,639 it was all over a week later, the jury voted 106 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,240 eleven to one to convict Ryan Sharp a first degree 107 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:30,439 murder and that would become a major issue later on. 108 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,600 Why just a few months later after that verdict, the 109 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Supreme Court actually changed the law as it relates to 110 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:44,720 criminal convictions, requiring a unanimous jury verdict. Remember this case 111 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,399 was eleven to one. Now, the initial vought was due 112 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,240 to the fact that the crimes in the trial took 113 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,200 place before the law was changed. It certainly wouldn't apply here. However, 114 00:08:57,879 --> 00:09:01,480 a district judge did not see it that way and 115 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:05,799 through the verdict doubt, which meant, believe it or not, 116 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,120 a whole new trial would have to take place. There 117 00:09:10,159 --> 00:09:15,279 were higher stakes this time, because the Da sam Duquila 118 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:19,000 would again seek a first degree murder conviction. The jury 119 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:23,480 would have to be unanimous, no easy task when you're 120 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:28,759 going up against an insanity defense. Especially the families. They 121 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:35,720 were shocked and understandably disgusted, especially the d Franceski family. 122 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,320 They would have to go through all of this again. 123 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,799 They would have to relive this nightmare again, and the 124 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:47,840 trial would not come around the second time for four 125 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,279 and a half years after the first dude to several 126 00:09:51,399 --> 00:09:56,159 motions regarding Sharp's mental capacity, et cetera. But the second 127 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,879 trial of Ryan Sharp did finally happen. This was in 128 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,799 in August of twenty twenty four. Now, this is some 129 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:09,840 seven and a half years after he killed Brad di Franceske, 130 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,720 and after just one hour of deliberations, a twelve person 131 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,440 panel did indeed find Ryan Sharp guilty of murder in 132 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:25,879 the first degree of Brad d. Franchske. So I say 133 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:29,399 this often, and it's no exception in this case, that 134 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,279 there are always victims on both sides. After the guilty verdict, 135 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:38,679 the mother of Ryan Sharp, she spoke to reporter Kier 136 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:42,639 and Chaula, and she said, quote, I pray that today's 137 00:10:42,759 --> 00:10:46,360 verdict will bring the de Francheske family closure in this 138 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:49,840 horrific event. Through our grief. Today, I would like to 139 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,120 offer our prayers to the victims and families that have 140 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,600 always been there. We offer them peace unquote. Now, this 141 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:01,720 was the first time that Sharp's family had ever spoken 142 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:06,080 out in public. And look, no matter how evil someone is, 143 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,080 there's always a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, 144 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:14,360 someone somewhere that loves that person, and I thought they 145 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,000 handled the situation with as much grace as they could 146 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:23,879 considering the circumstances. Now. During this second trial, incidentally, the 147 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,240 state called fourteen witnesses, the defense only called three. Sharp's 148 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:34,320 father is sister and one of Sharp's closest childhood friends. 149 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,879 And in October of twenty twenty four, Ryan Sharp was 150 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:45,480 sentenced again to life inside a bloody and gola for 151 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,120 the murder of Brad d Franceske. And that was a 152 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,799 obviously unanimous verdict this time around, So what about the 153 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:59,440 other victim? Next up for Ryan Sharp was the trial 154 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,360 in the murder of Carol Breeden, which, if you'll remember, 155 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,720 occurred just across the line in East Baton Ridge Parish. 156 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,440 And as despicable as this is in my mind, more 157 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,639 delays thirty three court appearances for the Breeden family, and 158 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:23,320 in April of twenty twenty five, yet another delay, as 159 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:26,440 the judge in the case ordered what she termed a 160 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,799 sanity commission to be formed to determine if this guy 161 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:35,840 was saying it is absolutely infuriating to me that the 162 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:42,039 rights in these cases are always weighted towards the accused 163 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,879 and not the victims, and in this case, someone who 164 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:48,320 obviously did everything he said he did pisses me off. 165 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,279 But on May twenty twenty twenty five, just a few 166 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:56,600 months ago, doctors did find Ryan Sharp competent to stand 167 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,600 trial for the murder of Caro Breeden in a trial 168 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,200 day was set for November seventeenth of twenty twenty five, 169 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,159 and Da hill Or Moore, who is the baton rouge 170 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:12,039 Da and lead prosecutor Dana Cummings, they said they are 171 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,399 going to seek life in prison for Ryan Chart. Now 172 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:20,600 likely we're looking at nearly ten years after the killings 173 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,879 before just two of the four families we'll see justice. 174 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,639 Of course they will never get closure, but sadly justice 175 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,679 will have to wait until this trial is over for 176 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,360 Buck Hornsby and the family of Tommy Bass. And of 177 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,440 course I'll keep you updated Crime Wire weekly. For those 178 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,879 of you that have not heard the show, I do 179 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:46,679 this show with Kelly Jennings. It drops every Friday and 180 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,480 we just highlight the true crime headlines from around the 181 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,879 country for that week, the trending headlines, the news where 182 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,960 we offer our little bit of commentary, our unique commentary, 183 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,480 if you will. And today I'm going to play you 184 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:05,360 just a little half hour preview of this past week's episode. 185 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,519 The episodes are about an hour in length, and if 186 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,279 you like it, you can search Crime Wire Weekly wherever 187 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,440 you're listening right now to this episode. You can follow 188 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,480 it and also put it in the description of this 189 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,519 episode the links to go file Crime Wire Weekly if 190 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:41,320 you're so inclined. But all right, folks, welcome back to 191 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Crime Wire Weekly. We're going to be talking about a 192 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,639 ton of crime that has taken place Louisiana police officials. 193 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:55,840 They have arrested several police chiefs and several different parishes 194 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,039 of the state on a fraud plot that you are 195 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,039 absolutely I gonna believe. If you're like me, it will 196 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,679 blow your mind. I never saw this one coming that 197 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:08,679 they have been arrested. Interesting thing was they were arrested 198 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,559 at an actual Louisiana Police chief convention of all things, 199 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,799 so I'm sure that wasn't embarrassing for them. Two women 200 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:22,679 were killed in Kentucky and a trooper was shot in 201 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:26,200 a church. We're going to discuss that as well, and 202 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:29,000 much more so stay tuned for that. And of course 203 00:15:29,039 --> 00:15:30,159 I'm Jim Chapman. 204 00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:31,519 Speaker 5: And I'm Kelly Jennings and. 205 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: How was your week thus for Kelly Jennings. 206 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,879 Speaker 5: It's been a wild one for me. I've been watching 207 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,919 trials on TV. 208 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,679 Speaker 4: That's always fun. Yeah, I actually enjoy that. 209 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: Look, some people like to watch movies, some people like 210 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:47,600 to watch cartoons. This girl is watching True Crime twenty 211 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:48,159 four to seven. 212 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:52,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well you are a true crime officiat officiata. 213 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:55,960 I believe that's what it is. That's what you are. 214 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:58,320 I couldn't spell that nor pronounce it. But if you're 215 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,080 listening to show, you're probably true crime fan just like us. 216 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,200 And I'm sure you spend your own time watching trials 217 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:07,279 and things of that. Made all right, So let's get 218 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:10,720 into it. We are going to start out in Louisiana, 219 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:15,399 and four law enforcement officials, including two current police chiefs 220 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,159 in Louisiana, are accused of fabricating police reports in a 221 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,440 scheme to illegally obtain US visas for immigrants. This from 222 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:29,759 federal prosecutors. A Louisiana businessman is also charged in the scheme. 223 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:34,000 The US Attorney's Office in the Western District of Louisiana 224 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,399 alleges it between December twenty sixth of twenty fifteenth and 225 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:41,600 July fifteenth of twenty twenty five. That's right, ten years 226 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:48,360 businessman Chandra Khant Patel, O'Dell police chief, Chad Doyle for steal, 227 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:54,320 police Chief Glen Dixon, former Glenn Moore police chief, Tibo Oniithia, 228 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:59,000 and Michael Slainey, and I apologize if that pronunciation is off. 229 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,879 A marsh in the fifth ward of the Marshall's Office 230 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,559 all conspired to produce false reports that were used to 231 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,880 apply for What's Done as You visas where victims of 232 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:15,160 certain crime are eligible. Immigrants seeking you visus would contact Patel. 233 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,680 Now Patel for I'll just go ahead and tell you this. 234 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,160 He owned a subway sandwich shop. He was a business 235 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,039 owner in the area, and basically he was a middleman 236 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,279 for this whole scheme. And I'm going to deviate from 237 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,759 this article because I know this kind of well. He 238 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 was a middle man for this scheme and he would 239 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,319 set up to where he would go to the police 240 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 chief and he would say, hey, look I've got a guy. 241 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,880 He's an immigrant. He's in this country, but he didn't 242 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,920 want to go back to wherever it was he was from, 243 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:47,960 and so we would like to pay you five thousand dollars, 244 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:51,759 and in exchange for that five thousand dollars, we want 245 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,000 you to say that he's a witness and a crime, 246 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,880 or we want you to say that he's a victim 247 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,839 of a crime. Now in either one of those two cases, 248 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:05,079 the you visa is a visa specifically developed to keep 249 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,880 that person in this country if they are witness or 250 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,319 a victim to a crime. Not only that, but if 251 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,799 you're a family member of someone that is a witness 252 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,680 or victim of a crime that is an immigrant, you 253 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,799 also get to stay in the country. So, to really 254 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:27,200 put it into Layman's terms, they were totally fabricating police 255 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,920 reports to say that someone was either the victim of 256 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,200 a crime or they were a witness to a crime, 257 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,480 so that that person could say, in this country, this 258 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,240 subway sandwich own, sandwich shop owner would pay five thousand 259 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,279 dollars each for this. And get this, there were hundreds 260 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:49,960 of immigrants that took advantage of this, if you will, 261 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:53,960 this scheme, and it is all coming to roost, I 262 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:57,079 guess you could say for these folks, and they have 263 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,200 dropped the hammer. So they actually went in to the 264 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,839 Louisiana Police Chief Convention where these two chiefs were and 265 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,880 basically said, you know you're under arrest, you have the 266 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,440 right to remain silent. It is wild A Marshall also 267 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:16,160 involved in this, and as I said, the sandwich shop 268 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,680 owner was the middleman, mister Patel. Now the only one 269 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:23,920 currently still being held in jail is Patel. The others 270 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,640 may bond and they have been released. Of course, everyone's 271 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,359 innocent until proven guilty. But I can tell you if 272 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,200 the Feds have done all of these years, they've got 273 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,400 pretty good evident Yeah. Never even would have considered. You 274 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:42,839 know what, this has made national news. It's breaking everywhere 275 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,519 into me, uh, the fact that these are look, folks, 276 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:49,799 these are smaller towns. These are not big towns in 277 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:54,440 the state of Louisiana. And what a lot of these 278 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:58,039 national organizations are really saying is it's amazing this scheme 279 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,359 was being able to be off for this long in 280 00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:04,720 towns that are this small. I mean, one of these 281 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:07,799 towns has like one police chief and three you know 282 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,559 other officers. 283 00:20:09,279 --> 00:20:12,279 Speaker 5: And he's putting in over one hundred of these right, 284 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,559 and weren't they all armed robberies or something like? It 285 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,799 was like a bizarre when you look at when you 286 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:18,680 look at crime data. Okay, and I don't want to 287 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,799 be dry right now, but seriously, you know, when you 288 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:23,440 look at crime data, you have projections of amounts of 289 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,039 crime in a certain area and demographics and all that 290 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,880 are are looked at that in population, and then there's 291 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,240 this disproportionate amount of armed robberies and then you have 292 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:35,000 to wonder, okay, well, obviously those aren't going to trial 293 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,519 because they didn't happen. Yeah, so what's that about? And 294 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:42,839 I'm thinking that might have been what cleued in the Feds, 295 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:46,079 maybe a tip, but also you know, maybe that might 296 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,000 have been what clued them in, because it just doesn't 297 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:52,799 jive with the traditional I agree over time. 298 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,079 Speaker 4: I mean, this has been ten years, so nobody was 299 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,240 clued in for quite a while, which is the shocking part. 300 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:01,240 In your absolutely right, I think a lot of it 301 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,680 played into it. But you know, this stuff is elaborate. 302 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:07,799 It's not as easy as saying, Okay, here's a proof 303 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,920 of a police report of this guy being involved. He 304 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:14,559 was a witness to an armed robbery, let's say, and 305 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,759 here's the police report. So we need him to stay 306 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:19,920 in town because he could be a witness. We don't 307 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,599 need him to be deported at this point or made 308 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,839 to leave the country. Well, the issue is there's a 309 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,920 lot of paperwork behind that. People check that or supposed 310 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,440 to be it's verified. There's a lot of things going 311 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,480 on there. And so the shocking thing is you could 312 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,240 see in New Orleans something like this kind of sliding 313 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,799 through because there's so many people in New Orleans, there's 314 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:47,039 so much opportunity. But literally, like one of these towns 315 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720 is like a thousand people total, and you've got one 316 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:54,240 hundred immigrants involved in bank robberies. How they didn't catch 317 00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:55,920 at this soon. I'm not blaming anybody. 318 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: I know. 319 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: This is a big country and you got you know, 320 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,559 you have a lack of people to check things like this. 321 00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 5: But and it wasn't right before yeah, and before people 322 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,079 start going, oh, well maybe this was like a do 323 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640 good thing, which I'm not saying it was. But you know, 324 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,079 these poor immigrants they didn't want to no, no, no, no, no. 325 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:15,519 They were profiting by this scheme. They were being paid 326 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,119 the thousand dollars each. Yes, and so now we've got 327 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,839 this corruption that's disgusting. You know these people people always 328 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:27,240 say they should be held to a higher standard. No, 329 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359 how about hold them to the damn standard. Let's just 330 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,400 hold them to the standard. 331 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:31,799 Speaker 2: And they have they have. 332 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,599 Speaker 5: This is sick, it's wrong. And then it makes you wonder, 333 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:37,720 as with so many other cases where cops gone bad, 334 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:40,480 you know what other things have they done that are corrupt? 335 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:42,519 Are there people behind bars right now that took the 336 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,720 fall for something they didn't do? It does make you wonder, 337 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:47,920 It makes your brain start to wonder if you can 338 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,559 be paid off that easily? Wow? 339 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And in the in the biggest picture issue for me, 340 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,480 as look, no one hates this more than good cops. 341 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,440 No one hates more than good police chiefs, good shriff 342 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:06,319 So you know why, because now they're gonna get scrutinized 343 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,279 harder because of stupidity of these two police chiefs. All 344 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240 the police chiefs are gonna be scrutinized harder. It's gonna 345 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:19,000 be harder for legitimate immigrants that this U VISA program 346 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:23,200 was made for. If they do witness a crime, it's 347 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,960 gonna be hard for a police chief to even want 348 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,079 to process that because I don't want people to think 349 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:33,319 that I've I'm doing what this jackass and in uh 350 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:38,039 forest Wood, Louisiana, did I don't want my people thinking this. 351 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,200 It creates issues throughout the entire law enforcement community. 352 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,559 Speaker 5: The job's hard enough as it is, and everyone's screaming 353 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,799 all these times. They're saying that the police have done 354 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:50,079 something wrong when they haven't, and then this does this happens, 355 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:51,880 They're like, see, see, and they just use it to 356 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,720 add fuel to the fire. Well, let's go to Kentucky. 357 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,359 Two women were shot and killed at Kentucky church after 358 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,799 a suspect who shot and wounded a state trooper fled 359 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:01,680 there this past Sunday. The two people were killed and 360 00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:05,200 were identified by officials as Beverly gam seventy two and 361 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:08,960 Christina Comb's thirty four, and they were a mother and daughter. 362 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,799 The suspect was also killed. The suspect was later identified 363 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:15,240 by the coroner as forty seven year old Guy House, 364 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:19,000 who died from a gunshot wound at the church. Two others, 365 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,599 both men, were wounded by the gunman, Weather said. Police 366 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,799 said Monday that both men were in critical condition and 367 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,160 the state trooper was in stable condition. Family members of 368 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,039 the victims said that House showed up at the church 369 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,880 looking for one of GM's daughters, who is the mother 370 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,720 of his three children. When they said that she wasn't there, 371 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,640 he responded, quote, I guess someone's going to have to die. 372 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: Quote. 373 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 5: The family members, who are Gum's daughters, said House shot 374 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960 and killed their mother and also shot their father, James, 375 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,839 who is the pastor of the Richmond Road Baptist Church. 376 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,519 The other victims, they said, were another one of their 377 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,759 sisters who was killed and her husband who was wounded. 378 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,240 The family said that House allegedly suffered from severe mental 379 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:02,839 health issues, had an ongoing drug problem with methamphetamines, and 380 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,559 was under the influence when he shot their relatives. The 381 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,200 police chiefs said the shooting began after the trooper pulled 382 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,359 him over near the Bluegrass Airport in Lexington. After shooting 383 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,680 the trooper before noon on Sunday, the suspect carjacked another 384 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,920 vehicle and ended up at the Richmond Road Baptist Church 385 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,720 in southwest Lexington. No injuries were reported during the carjacking. 386 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,200 The shooting spree ended when Lexington police shot and killed 387 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,960 the suspect. 388 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: Horrible shoot at an injure, severely injured a state trooper 389 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,880 where it occurred at a church, horrific. Most of the 390 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,759 people going there, I would say all of the people 391 00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,359 probably going to that church. Nobody wanted to see that 392 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:41,160 that day. It doesn't really say there had to be 393 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:41,759 some kind of. 394 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 5: Issue there with well, it says too he obviously went 395 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,319 there to kill somebody. Because he said somebody, he. 396 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,279 Speaker 4: Doesn't specify where they estranged, and you know, everybody could 397 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,720 see this coming. It doesn't really specify if this was 398 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,200 just a totally out of character thing. But with them 399 00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:02,640 accusing him of being mentally ill and obvious, thank you, 400 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,160 Captain Obvious for that. You've got to be pretty crazy 401 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,519 to do what he just pulled off. 402 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: He wasn't too crazy to get the gun, load the bullets, 403 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,359 shoot the cop, make it to the church, and try 404 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,039 to kill everybody. 405 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, and so just a horrible situation unfolding in Kentucky. 406 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,759 And hopefully some information come on as to what's burred this. 407 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure there'll be some background information. But for 408 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,079 that family, I would like to say, you know, absolute 409 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,960 prayers and thoughts, and I hope that the survivors that 410 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,480 are hanging in there make a full recovery and they 411 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,640 can get some sort of answers. 412 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to Indiana, and a communication through snapchat 413 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,880 has triggered an FBI investigation into an Indianapolis mother of 414 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,880 seven for an alleged sex trafficking attempt of her seven 415 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,839 month old daughter that ultimately led to her arrest. Now. 416 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,319 When first confronted by agents, this was in November eleventh 417 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,200 of twenty twenty four, Morgan Staff, who was thirty two, 418 00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,160 told them that her Snapchat had recently been hacked and 419 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,519 she no longer had access to it. She also said 420 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,599 she was upset at the loss of the photos of 421 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,599 her seven children. To these agents confront her about obvious 422 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,079 allegations and she says, oh, my account's been hacked. The 423 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,039 woman then told them she received an email from the 424 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,400 social media platform that told her her account had been 425 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,599 permanently banned for suspected online commercial sex transactions. Huh, I 426 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,119 wonder why. Later in the month, she allegedly admitted to 427 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,799 the Indiana Department of Child Services that she had lied 428 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,640 to federal agents about losing her Snapchat account because quote 429 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,559 I wanted the FBI to leave. After that unproductive initial 430 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,359 interview with Staff, the FBI then reached out to the 431 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department for assistance in this case, and 432 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,839 the detective was able to acquire a search warrant to 433 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:04,079 investigate STAPs snap chet account. Subsequently, guess what selfies were 434 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,240 found of her that had been saved to the account 435 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,039 after her FBI interview that suggested she still had access 436 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,000 to that Snapchat account, so she was lying. Further digging 437 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,720 found that the account had sent over seven thousand messages 438 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:22,640 over a three day span. How do you do that? 439 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,839 Even in November, shortly before Snapchat reached out to the FBI, 440 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,759 the government agency launched its investigation. Now, one message was 441 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,240 repeated eighty one times in that barrage get this quote? 442 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,359 Would you be interested in buying my needs so I 443 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,720 can get my babies diapers? STAPs account was also reportedly 444 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:50,559 added four hundred other accounts during that same three day span. 445 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,400 The investigation showed that all of the messages had been 446 00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,160 sent from an area near stabs home, and all of 447 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000 them had been sent after she claimed she lost access 448 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:05,519 to that Snapchat account. The specific message that triggered Snapchat 449 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,279 to alert the FEDS reportedly included three photos of Stapp's 450 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:16,599 infant daughter. Along with them was the message you can 451 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,119 and I'm not gonna say the word, but it's the 452 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:25,160 F word. Her for four hundred dollars half now, the 453 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,400 rest later, I'll send my address. I do live alone, 454 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,319 and her dad is not in the picture. That was 455 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,160 arrested now facing a Level two felony charge of attempted 456 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:39,480 sex trafficking, booked into the Marion County Jail and being 457 00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:41,240 held on a two hundred thousand dollars bond. 458 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,799 Speaker 5: kJ go to say what she said. First, you know, 459 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,839 y'all know you know by now that I that I 460 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880 have a I wish I could have her, give me, 461 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,759 give me that child, and I will protect her with 462 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:56,839 everything and me. And I've never seen her, I don't 463 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,319 know her. And this woman gave birth to that child. 464 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,279 And to say her daddy is out of the picture, 465 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,960 which is all she's saying is she's defenseless. She's defenseless, 466 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,839 she's defensive. 467 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:08,359 Speaker 4: You ain't got to worry about him coming about. 468 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 5: There's nobody here that will stand up to you. And 469 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,119 you can have free reign with my baby. I hope 470 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,519 all seven of her children are removed from her custody, 471 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,039 and I hope that she never ever ever gets them back. 472 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 4: It's discussed, and. 473 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: I hope that those other children who I'm assuming have 474 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,880 to be older just by process of elimination. Here are 475 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,720 vetted very carefully for what maybe they they have been 476 00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:35,599 through my. 477 00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: Ams, you are you don't deserve to be walking around 478 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:40,759 with oxygen in your lungs. 479 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: No, and don't ever call her mother. She's not a mother. 480 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,039 There's nothing motherly about that, you know. I just I 481 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,599 remember one time, Jim kind of off the on topic. 482 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,079 But I pulled up at a bank one time and 483 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,160 not a very small load of the ground car, and 484 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,720 I'll make it short, but I looked up and I 485 00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,559 saw these little fingers come over the top of my 486 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,400 hood while I was in the drive through, and I 487 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:04,519 ended up finding a baby in a diaper in front of. 488 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: My vehicle, just by themselves. Yes, oh my god. Yes. 489 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,759 Speaker 5: And so I got out of my car. Everybody was 490 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,680 stunned what was going on. I picked him up. He 491 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480 was in his little diaper, and I'm looking around. There's 492 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,359 no parent around, And so the bank teller was like, 493 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,519 bring him inside, bring him inside, and everything maternal in 494 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960 me said, no, I'm not going to do that. And 495 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,400 I held that baby, called the police and I would 496 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920 not even let him go to anybody because the maternal 497 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,039 instinct was so strong to protect him because I felt 498 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,440 like he had nobody and he didn't. And I know 499 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,119 it's very bizarre, but the mother ended up being in Walmart, 500 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,440 which was next door to that bank. 501 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 4: Well, how did the baby get away from month? 502 00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 5: Great question? That baby had enough time to walk out 503 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,680 of that Walmart and toddle over. The people of that 504 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,119 area ought to pay attention and follow through with this one. 505 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be in that rage, that would be 506 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,599 in this situation. And it's one of the worst, honestly, 507 00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:02,119 one of the worst messages I've ever seen. I've done 508 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,599 this a little while, I've never seen something that bad 509 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,960 when it comes to child exploitation. Yeah, disgusting. 510 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,279 Speaker 5: Well it makes me mad me too, it makes me mad. 511 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,400 And I know I'm gonna just say I hope that 512 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,960 baby's in custody with someone who's loving and karen for her, 513 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,400 and that you know, she'll be. 514 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: Taken care of, you know, And just to put a 515 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,799 put a period on this story. There are other options 516 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,400 out there for people that can't handle kids, or don't 517 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,680 want kids, or any of those sorts of things. Now 518 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,359 they have these these you can drop the baby off 519 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,759 and it's like a I don't know if you. 520 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,119 Speaker 5: I know it's the station type things. 521 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have those. They have those in Hammond, even Louisiana. 522 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680 I don't know if they have one in Livingston Parish. 523 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:57,960 But you don't even have to like explain, explain nothing. 524 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,720 You put the baby in there, you push through, and 525 00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:06,200 it's it's almost like a bank deposit deal. On the 526 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,920 other side. The baby comes and there's someone there, and 527 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920 it is to avoid people just dropping their babies off 528 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,039 in the middle of nowhere that they can't take care of. 529 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,799 Speaker 5: So, yeah, this was this that's wonderful too, But this 530 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,319 wasn't that. 531 00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,759 Speaker 4: No, that wasn't now. I was more responding to your 532 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:25,400 bank situation. Yeah, initially I thought maybe she just liked 533 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,799 the baby. 534 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:27,599 Speaker 5: Guse I saw a thing too, just to that point, 535 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,599 knowledge is power. But I wondered, like in cold states 536 00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,279 that have those boxes where you can turn over your baby, 537 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,680 like what happens if nobody's there? But I researched itickats, 538 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960 I'm a dork, and it said that they have alerts 539 00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:44,319 on them, and so an alert goes off, it tells 540 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,319 somebody and whoever is if there's nobody actually in the 541 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:48,880 building at that time, it gives an alert and they 542 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880 have so many minutes to get there and recover the baby. 543 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,440 But I think it had a warmer in it too, 544 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,039 so like it the baby wouldn't be freezing. If it 545 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,799 was snowing or something, it wouldn't be freezing. And because 546 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,160 a woman had dropped off her child and she had twins, 547 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160 actually she dropped off twin babies, and she had packed 548 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,759 the diaper bag everything that the kids would need, and 549 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,639 she put the diaper bag in there, and it caused 550 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,679 this fiasco because the babies were too old. They were 551 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,719 past what the standard time frame was. 552 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: They were like sixteen. 553 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, they've had a lot of here. Here 554 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,960 you go take them. These things got these things don't listen. 555 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,599 So let's go to California. A human skin teddy bear 556 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,760 that was discovered outside a convenience store in California over 557 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,760 the weekend was likely placed there as a prank, despite 558 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,960 police launching an investigation. On Sunday, July thirteenth, the San 559 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,599 Bernardino County Sheriff's Department responded to reports of possible human 560 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,000 remains outside an AMPM store at a gas station. A 561 00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:50,840 coroner investigator took possession of the object. Authorities had cordoned 562 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,679 off the parking lot while the coroner investigator looked at 563 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,519 the bear, which had been left just outside the store's entrance. 564 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,840 Despite the ongoing investigation, the bear is actually made out 565 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,280 of and is currently being sold online, described as a 566 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,239 human skin teddy bear for one hundred and sixty five dollars. 567 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:08,400 Kind of weird to me that you would throw away 568 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,639 a one hundred and sixty five dollars teddy bear unless 569 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,599 you were trying to stir something up. That's kind of 570 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:18,119 an expensive bear. South Carolina artist Robert Kelly of Dark 571 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:21,119 Seed Creations is now taking credit for the work, confirming 572 00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:22,719 that he had shipped one of the bears to a 573 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,360 customer there last week. Kelly said he'd started getting tons 574 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480 of messages and calls from people telling us about the 575 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,880 incident after the reports made headlines. Our work is pretty 576 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360 easily recognizable, and people were sending the articles left and right. 577 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,360 I looked, and sure enough, it was the bear I 578 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480 sent out last week. Kelly continued that every artist wants 579 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:42,679 credit for their work, So I said I made that, 580 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,039 and I haven't been able to catch up with messages since. 581 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,360 Kelly added, I guess I'd probably be lying if I said, 582 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,159 I wasn't enjoying it a little bit. I'm an independent artist, 583 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,280 so a little attention is sometimes good, regardless of not 584 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,400 being able to condone or whatever. I don't know if 585 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440 the guy broke any laws or if it was just 586 00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,679 a prank, but it looks like he definitely got some 587 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,400 people riled up. The artist, who specializes in horror, horror 588 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,480 special effects and haunted attractions set The artist posted a 589 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,920 video of the Bears in question on Facebook on Sunday, 590 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,519 writing that his work has been quote used in a prank. No, 591 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,079 I do not have any knowledge of the buyer's intentions, 592 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,559 nor was I involved in a prank on the other 593 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,480 side of the nation from me, the artist wrote, adding 594 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,639 that anybody can still order one of the bears online. 595 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:28,840 One of the things that we're known for is that 596 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,800 we make a lot of these props that are fake 597 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,320 human skin, Kelly said, So those are all made out 598 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920 of latex, they are created from a mold, and our 599 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960 stuff is pretty recognizable in the industry. So once this 600 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,559 happened a few hours ago, my phone started blowing up 601 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 and my Facebook started blowing up. You must be pretty 602 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,320 good at what you do if people are buying it 603 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,719 and then it's used in the industry and well recognized. 604 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 4: And I have seen pictures of it. You can google 605 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,079 and see pictures. We'll put some on the Facebook page. Actually, 606 00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:03,199 But it was funny, y'all because Kelly originally messaged me 607 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,000 when we didn't know it was fake yet. So she 608 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,480 messaged me and she's like, with the link to an 609 00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:14,960 article referencing this before it came out that it was fake, 610 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,400 and she was like, oh my gosh, we got to 611 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,800 talk about this, and it was like the next day 612 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,719 it had went viral and the next day, come to 613 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,320 find out it was fake, but it sure looked real. Yeah, 614 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,360 and so we'll put some pictures on the page. But 615 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,920 I don't think this guy did anything wrong. I mean, 616 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,559 he sold it on eBay, someone bought it and decided 617 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,480 to pull up joke. It was a prank. Look. We 618 00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:42,880 covered a story a few years back where it was 619 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,639 a like a mannequin that somebody had put in the 620 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,199 woods and it looked like a dead body. And I 621 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,039 know that's not funny, but I mean they did it 622 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:56,079 intentionally as a prank to prank people driving down from 623 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,559 the interstate, and it looked just like a dead body 624 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,920 so much showed that the police were called and they 625 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,920 show up and they're like guns drawing and everything, thinking 626 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440 there's a dead person back here, and you know, then 627 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,559 they're like, wait a minute, that's a mannequin. So it happens. 628 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,239 It's where I get aggravated. Is you waste police time 629 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,199 when you do something like the second example. This first 630 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,920 example is is just on I just know this. 631 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 5: I spent one hundred and sixty five dollars on a 632 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,639 damn teddy Bear. Better not end up outside a convenience store. 633 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,119 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. We're going a long way away from 634 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:33,320 here where we go Pakistan. Good God, I told you 635 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,719 this is global. 636 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 5: We're going around the world. 637 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 4: This show is global. We don't play around, and we're 638 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,440 going to tell you. Look, I hear all the time 639 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:47,679 that people who don't travel outside of the United States 640 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440 don't really know what it's like in other countries. Want 641 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,320 give you. I'm going to give you an example of 642 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,800 that that's absolutely horrific. 643 00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:55,679 Speaker 2: Uh. 644 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,679 Speaker 4: Pakistan police allege a father shot and killed his sixteen 645 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,199 year old daughter on Tuesday, July eighth, after she refused 646 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,559 to delete her TikTok account. According to a police report, 647 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:14,440 and this is the part that is absolutely insane. According 648 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,079 to a police report, investigator said the father killed his 649 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,920 daughter for honor and he was arrested soon after. The 650 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,039 girl's father had asked her to delete her TikTok. On refusal, 651 00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:29,199 he killed her. The sixteen year old's family initially tried 652 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,320 to portray the murder as a suicide. One thousand women 653 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,159 a year are killed murdered in Pakistan due to what 654 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,079 is known as honor killings. So this typically happens when 655 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:45,159 a woman's behavior seems to have violated traditional expectations and 656 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,639 they face extreme punishment from their family members. On January thirtieth, 657 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:52,599 as a matter of fact, of this year, a teenager 658 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,920 was shot and killed by her family in an honor 659 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,440 killing because of their view on her online presence on 660 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,800 social media and so it said. Fourteen year old hira 661 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:06,719 am War was living in New York City at the time, 662 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,719 posting videos on TikTok like all these all these kids do. 663 00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,559 She was living in a different world than her family. 664 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,000 She went to visit her family in Pakistan on a 665 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,119 family vacation. Several days after arriving, she was shot by 666 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:26,400 her father and uncle, who said they were performing in 667 00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:31,000 honor killing because of the inappropriate videos that she brought 668 00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:35,960 shame into the family. Pakistan society often operates under a 669 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,920 strict code of honor. Women are often told by their 670 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,199 male relatives what choices they can make around education, employment, 671 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,039 and even who they can marry. So that still goes on, y'all. 672 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, And so there was actually another case, I mean 673 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:52,880 from the I think the eighties or early nineties, where 674 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,440 there was a family of some type of Middle Eastern 675 00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,119 descent and they were living here though in the US. 676 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,559 The little girl, the teenager was started dating a boy 677 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840 from her high school and the dad did not approve, 678 00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:05,639 nor did the mom of who she was dating, and 679 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,920 so they killed her with their hands in the house. 680 00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,599 But the FBI was investigating them as possible terrorists, and 681 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,239 so they caught it on audio, the whole killing, but 682 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320 they tried to put that off as a uh that 683 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,480 the girl had attacked them and they defended themselves. So 684 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,039 you know, I say that I'm not well traveled, but 685 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,320 I do understand culture, and I have studied, you know, 686 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,880 you learn about different cultures in different areas. 687 00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: You know. 688 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 5: Here if if if a young girl is doing something, 689 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,719 I'm assuming this is a sexualized type. They felt like 690 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,039 she was. 691 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,559 Speaker 4: Being overlydar of your skin. 692 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 5: You're sexualized, right, and so you know here we're like 693 00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,199 put on a shirt, don't put pictures of yourself in 694 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,519 swimsuit or you know that are in that. But we 695 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,400 don't kill each other because we love our children. 696 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,559 Speaker 4: And I did. 697 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 5: There's a complete disconnect here. I cannot understand that you 698 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,280 would want to off your child over your own honor, 699 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,480 like off of your own. 700 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 3: Like what you know. 701 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 5: And I just can't understand that. And I'm glad it's not. 702 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 4: What we do here. Yeah. And the shocking thing is 703 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,199 this still occurs, sounding like something out of the stun age, right. 704 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,679 This is this people don't realize once you travel out 705 00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,280 of how great this country is, how much freedom you 706 00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:21,880 actually have. I know some people think they get no 707 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,639 freedom here. Anymore freedom is gone. Let me tell you 708 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,400 something good. To Pakistan for a day. Go to Pakistan 709 00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:28,360 for a day. Yeah. 710 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 5: I have a friend whose friend went there, and she's 711 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,480 very tall, but she did the garb, she wore all 712 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,519 the stuff she's supposed to wear, but a sliver of 713 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,800 her ankle was showing because of her height. And a 714 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,280 man on the street. A complete stranger on the street 715 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,559 had like a stick or a walking cane and whacked 716 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,599 her in the ankles as hard as he could for 717 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,519 her inappropriate showing of her ankle. 718 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,559 Speaker 4: Dang, you didn't beat that out, you would have died. 719 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 5: Because I would have turn around, been like bitch and 720 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,559 start I know you want to talk shit you I mean, 721 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:05,239 Boosy in Pakistan would have came out. That's insane, you know. 722 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that really is. 723 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,519 Speaker 5: God bless you for a world. Hey everyone, Crime Wire 724 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,719 Weekly has moved to its own new channel. 725 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:17,079 Speaker 4: We hope you've enjoyed this preview. 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