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one forty two years in the making. The complete story
of America's Bloody is present. I'm Jim Chapman, and today
I am continuing with part two of People Hunter and
the last time that I left you, Ryan Sharp had
been arrested. In the subsequent questioning, he had admitted to
the murder of three men and the attempted murder of
another in an elaborate claim of collecting people tags people
hunting tags, if you will, so I'm going to pick
up there. And after confessing to all of this, of course,
it's straight to jail for thirty six year old Ryan Sharp.
And this is in the late fall. It's actually late
October of twenty seventeen, and a lot came out regarding
Ryan Sharp, publicly the fact that he owned a fairly
successful plumbing company, and the fact that his father was
retired law enforcement dominated local media as of this time. Now,
the investigation was swift. Police were able to find tons
of physical evidence, including matching casings found at the scene
to rifles that Sharp owned, so that his confession and
all the other things they had, there's just no doubt
this guy committed these. So from there the charges were
first degree murder of Brad Di Franceski, second degree murder
of Tommy Bass, second degree murder of Carol Breeden, and
the attempted first degree murder of Buck Hornsby. Now, an
interesting thing happens on December fourteenth of twenty seventeen. A
woman that was living with Sharp when he was arrested, well,
she was arrested after stealing fourteen thousand, five hundred dollars
from Sharp's safe at his home. Sheriff Jeff Travis came
out in the media and said Robin Lender, who was
fifty four, broke into the safe and she stole money,
But he emphasized she was not involved in any of
the shootings whatsoever. So from there the legal gymnastics continued
and they got ridiculous. There was delay after delay, and
in April of twenty eighteen, East Feliciana Parish District Attorney
Sam Daquilla. He opted not to seek the death penalty,
and he gave some reasons for this. Primarily, he cited
the time involved in prosecuting such a case. D Quilla
knew the defense they're gonna pull the mentally unfit for
trial defense. There was no doubt about that. And if
it's a death penalty case, that can stretch it out
for more than a decade. To be honest, maybe even
more than that. He was trying to get this guy
in jail at least for the rest of his life. Look,
I'm not saying I agree with it. I don't know
what the family's thoughts were on this. Personally, to me,
if anybody deserves the death penalty, it's people that commit
crimes like this on any human beings. But they had
their reasons and that's what they were going with life
in prison. He let the defense know that as well.
So time moves on. In nearly two years after the killing,
jury selection finally starts in East Feliciana Parish and the
trial started in the winter of twenty nineteen. Now, this
trial took about a week to complete and when Daquilla
opened the trial, he argued that Sharp took plenty of
steps to not get caught, such as destroying or throwing
away ballistic evidence like bullets, and you heard that in
his confession. He even mentioned that he took one of
the shotgun shells that had flew in the back of
his truck and he had burned it or threw it
in a fire to get rid of the evidence, and
then disposed of the brass. He also mentioned during his
confession that he intentionally left his cell f und at
home so he could not be tracked or didn't have
to worry about being tracked, and he said he would
even pull his battery out of his celf, and at
times he mentioned that he would circle the homes before
shooting the victims to make sure that no witnesses would
be present. All of those things show what premeditation of
some sort that's important. Why is it important, Well, it
proves he's sane, because an insane person by definition, does
not know what they are doing is wrong, same as
someone who claims temporary insanity, which was incidentally exactly Ryan
Sharp's plea not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. The
defense also made claims that in the moss leading up
to the shootings, he became detached from friends and family,
and that he started neglecting his plumbing business. They used
examples of how Sharp became very paranoid and said he
had no memory of the shootings. So the entire task
of the jury in this case was not to determine
so much whether Sharp committed these shootings. That was clear,
he confessed to it. The only real determination they had
to make was whether he knew that what he was
doing was wrong when he committed those shootings. And I
want to mention the support quickly that all the families
had for each other in this case, because it's worth
pointing out now, although this was a trial that was
only for the killing of Bradde Franceskey, every family affected
by the actions were there throughout the trial. All the
physical evidence was shown, including the interrogation video I played
you last week, which I just cannot imagine how hard
that was for the families to hear, I mean, the
graphic detail tales of that in court. As far as
the defense, only five witnesses were called, all essentially speaking
to Sharp's mental state. These witnesses included his father, and
some friends and a couple of expert witnesses. And when
it was all over a week later, the jury voted
eleven to one to convict Ryan Sharp a first degree
murder and that would become a major issue later on.
Why just a few months later after that verdict, the
Supreme Court actually changed the law as it relates to
criminal convictions, requiring a unanimous jury verdict. Remember this case
was eleven to one. Now, the initial vought was due
to the fact that the crimes in the trial took
place before the law was changed. It certainly wouldn't apply here. However,
a district judge did not see it that way and
through the verdict doubt, which meant, believe it or not,
a whole new trial would have to take place. There
were higher stakes this time, because the Da sam Duquila
would again seek a first degree murder conviction. The jury
would have to be unanimous, no easy task when you're
going up against an insanity defense. Especially the families. They
were shocked and understandably disgusted, especially the d Franceski family.
They would have to go through all of this again.
They would have to relive this nightmare again, and the
trial would not come around the second time for four
and a half years after the first dude to several
motions regarding Sharp's mental capacity, et cetera. But the second
trial of Ryan Sharp did finally happen. This was in
in August of twenty twenty four. Now, this is some
seven and a half years after he killed Brad di Franceske,
and after just one hour of deliberations, a twelve person
panel did indeed find Ryan Sharp guilty of murder in
the first degree of Brad d. Franchske. So I say
this often, and it's no exception in this case, that
there are always victims on both sides. After the guilty verdict,
the mother of Ryan Sharp, she spoke to reporter Kier
and Chaula, and she said, quote, I pray that today's
verdict will bring the de Francheske family closure in this
horrific event. Through our grief. Today, I would like to
offer our prayers to the victims and families that have
always been there. We offer them peace unquote. Now, this
was the first time that Sharp's family had ever spoken
out in public. And look, no matter how evil someone is,
there's always a mother, a father, a sister, a brother,
someone somewhere that loves that person, and I thought they
handled the situation with as much grace as they could
considering the circumstances. Now. During this second trial, incidentally, the
state called fourteen witnesses, the defense only called three. Sharp's
father is sister and one of Sharp's closest childhood friends.
And in October of twenty twenty four, Ryan Sharp was
sentenced again to life inside a bloody and gola for
the murder of Brad d Franceske. And that was a
obviously unanimous verdict this time around, So what about the
other victim? Next up for Ryan Sharp was the trial
in the murder of Carol Breeden, which, if you'll remember,
occurred just across the line in East Baton Ridge Parish.
And as despicable as this is in my mind, more
delays thirty three court appearances for the Breeden family, and
in April of twenty twenty five, yet another delay, as
the judge in the case ordered what she termed a
sanity commission to be formed to determine if this guy
was saying it is absolutely infuriating to me that the
rights in these cases are always weighted towards the accused
and not the victims, and in this case, someone who
obviously did everything he said he did pisses me off.
But on May twenty twenty twenty five, just a few
months ago, doctors did find Ryan Sharp competent to stand
trial for the murder of Caro Breeden in a trial
day was set for November seventeenth of twenty twenty five,
and Da hill Or Moore, who is the baton rouge
Da and lead prosecutor Dana Cummings, they said they are
going to seek life in prison for Ryan Chart. Now
likely we're looking at nearly ten years after the killings
before just two of the four families we'll see justice.
Of course they will never get closure, but sadly justice
will have to wait until this trial is over for
Buck Hornsby and the family of Tommy Bass. And of
course I'll keep you updated Crime Wire weekly. For those
of you that have not heard the show, I do
this show with Kelly Jennings. It drops every Friday and
we just highlight the true crime headlines from around the
country for that week, the trending headlines, the news where
we offer our little bit of commentary, our unique commentary,
if you will. And today I'm going to play you
just a little half hour preview of this past week's episode.
The episodes are about an hour in length, and if
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episode the links to go file Crime Wire Weekly if
you're so inclined. But all right, folks, welcome back to
Crime Wire Weekly. We're going to be talking about a
ton of crime that has taken place Louisiana police officials.
They have arrested several police chiefs and several different parishes
of the state on a fraud plot that you are
absolutely I gonna believe. If you're like me, it will
blow your mind. I never saw this one coming that
they have been arrested. Interesting thing was they were arrested
at an actual Louisiana Police chief convention of all things,
so I'm sure that wasn't embarrassing for them. Two women
were killed in Kentucky and a trooper was shot in
a church. We're going to discuss that as well, and
much more so stay tuned for that. And of course
I'm Jim Chapman.
Speaker 5: And I'm Kelly Jennings and.
Speaker 4: How was your week thus for Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 5: It's been a wild one for me. I've been watching
trials on TV.
Speaker 4: That's always fun. Yeah, I actually enjoy that.
Speaker 5: Look, some people like to watch movies, some people like
to watch cartoons. This girl is watching True Crime twenty
four to seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well you are a true crime officiat officiata.
I believe that's what it is. That's what you are.
I couldn't spell that nor pronounce it. But if you're
listening to show, you're probably true crime fan just like us.
And I'm sure you spend your own time watching trials
and things of that. Made all right, So let's get
into it. We are going to start out in Louisiana,
and four law enforcement officials, including two current police chiefs
in Louisiana, are accused of fabricating police reports in a
scheme to illegally obtain US visas for immigrants. This from
federal prosecutors. A Louisiana businessman is also charged in the scheme.
The US Attorney's Office in the Western District of Louisiana
alleges it between December twenty sixth of twenty fifteenth and
July fifteenth of twenty twenty five. That's right, ten years
businessman Chandra Khant Patel, O'Dell police chief, Chad Doyle for steal,
police Chief Glen Dixon, former Glenn Moore police chief, Tibo Oniithia,
and Michael Slainey, and I apologize if that pronunciation is off.
A marsh in the fifth ward of the Marshall's Office
all conspired to produce false reports that were used to
apply for What's Done as You visas where victims of
certain crime are eligible. Immigrants seeking you visus would contact Patel.
Now Patel for I'll just go ahead and tell you this.
He owned a subway sandwich shop. He was a business
owner in the area, and basically he was a middleman
for this whole scheme. And I'm going to deviate from
this article because I know this kind of well. He
was a middle man for this scheme and he would
set up to where he would go to the police
chief and he would say, hey, look I've got a guy.
He's an immigrant. He's in this country, but he didn't
want to go back to wherever it was he was from,
and so we would like to pay you five thousand dollars,
and in exchange for that five thousand dollars, we want
you to say that he's a witness and a crime,
or we want you to say that he's a victim
of a crime. Now in either one of those two cases,
the you visa is a visa specifically developed to keep
that person in this country if they are witness or
a victim to a crime. Not only that, but if
you're a family member of someone that is a witness
or victim of a crime that is an immigrant, you
also get to stay in the country. So, to really
put it into Layman's terms, they were totally fabricating police
reports to say that someone was either the victim of
a crime or they were a witness to a crime,
so that that person could say, in this country, this
subway sandwich own, sandwich shop owner would pay five thousand
dollars each for this. And get this, there were hundreds
of immigrants that took advantage of this, if you will,
this scheme, and it is all coming to roost, I
guess you could say for these folks, and they have
dropped the hammer. So they actually went in to the
Louisiana Police Chief Convention where these two chiefs were and
basically said, you know you're under arrest, you have the
right to remain silent. It is wild A Marshall also
involved in this, and as I said, the sandwich shop
owner was the middleman, mister Patel. Now the only one
currently still being held in jail is Patel. The others
may bond and they have been released. Of course, everyone's
innocent until proven guilty. But I can tell you if
the Feds have done all of these years, they've got
pretty good evident Yeah. Never even would have considered. You
know what, this has made national news. It's breaking everywhere
into me, uh, the fact that these are look, folks,
these are smaller towns. These are not big towns in
the state of Louisiana. And what a lot of these
national organizations are really saying is it's amazing this scheme
was being able to be off for this long in
towns that are this small. I mean, one of these
towns has like one police chief and three you know
other officers.
Speaker 5: And he's putting in over one hundred of these right,
and weren't they all armed robberies or something like? It
was like a bizarre when you look at when you
look at crime data. Okay, and I don't want to
be dry right now, but seriously, you know, when you
look at crime data, you have projections of amounts of
crime in a certain area and demographics and all that
are are looked at that in population, and then there's
this disproportionate amount of armed robberies and then you have
to wonder, okay, well, obviously those aren't going to trial
because they didn't happen. Yeah, so what's that about? And
I'm thinking that might have been what cleued in the Feds,
maybe a tip, but also you know, maybe that might
have been what clued them in, because it just doesn't
jive with the traditional I agree over time.
Speaker 4: I mean, this has been ten years, so nobody was
clued in for quite a while, which is the shocking part.
In your absolutely right, I think a lot of it
played into it. But you know, this stuff is elaborate.
It's not as easy as saying, Okay, here's a proof
of a police report of this guy being involved. He
was a witness to an armed robbery, let's say, and
here's the police report. So we need him to stay
in town because he could be a witness. We don't
need him to be deported at this point or made
to leave the country. Well, the issue is there's a
lot of paperwork behind that. People check that or supposed
to be it's verified. There's a lot of things going
on there. And so the shocking thing is you could
see in New Orleans something like this kind of sliding
through because there's so many people in New Orleans, there's
so much opportunity. But literally, like one of these towns
is like a thousand people total, and you've got one
hundred immigrants involved in bank robberies. How they didn't catch
at this soon. I'm not blaming anybody.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: This is a big country and you got you know,
you have a lack of people to check things like this.
Speaker 5: But and it wasn't right before yeah, and before people
start going, oh, well maybe this was like a do
good thing, which I'm not saying it was. But you know,
these poor immigrants they didn't want to no, no, no, no, no.
They were profiting by this scheme. They were being paid
the thousand dollars each. Yes, and so now we've got
this corruption that's disgusting. You know these people people always
say they should be held to a higher standard. No,
how about hold them to the damn standard. Let's just
hold them to the standard.
Speaker 2: And they have they have.
Speaker 5: This is sick, it's wrong. And then it makes you wonder,
as with so many other cases where cops gone bad,
you know what other things have they done that are corrupt?
Are there people behind bars right now that took the
fall for something they didn't do? It does make you wonder,
It makes your brain start to wonder if you can
be paid off that easily? Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And in the in the biggest picture issue for me,
as look, no one hates this more than good cops.
No one hates more than good police chiefs, good shriff
So you know why, because now they're gonna get scrutinized
harder because of stupidity of these two police chiefs. All
the police chiefs are gonna be scrutinized harder. It's gonna
be harder for legitimate immigrants that this U VISA program
was made for. If they do witness a crime, it's
gonna be hard for a police chief to even want
to process that because I don't want people to think
that I've I'm doing what this jackass and in uh
forest Wood, Louisiana, did I don't want my people thinking this.
It creates issues throughout the entire law enforcement community.
Speaker 5: The job's hard enough as it is, and everyone's screaming
all these times. They're saying that the police have done
something wrong when they haven't, and then this does this happens,
They're like, see, see, and they just use it to
add fuel to the fire. Well, let's go to Kentucky.
Two women were shot and killed at Kentucky church after
a suspect who shot and wounded a state trooper fled
there this past Sunday. The two people were killed and
were identified by officials as Beverly gam seventy two and
Christina Comb's thirty four, and they were a mother and daughter.
The suspect was also killed. The suspect was later identified
by the coroner as forty seven year old Guy House,
who died from a gunshot wound at the church. Two others,
both men, were wounded by the gunman, Weather said. Police
said Monday that both men were in critical condition and
the state trooper was in stable condition. Family members of
the victims said that House showed up at the church
looking for one of GM's daughters, who is the mother
of his three children. When they said that she wasn't there,
he responded, quote, I guess someone's going to have to die.
Speaker 4: Quote.
Speaker 5: The family members, who are Gum's daughters, said House shot
and killed their mother and also shot their father, James,
who is the pastor of the Richmond Road Baptist Church.
The other victims, they said, were another one of their
sisters who was killed and her husband who was wounded.
The family said that House allegedly suffered from severe mental
health issues, had an ongoing drug problem with methamphetamines, and
was under the influence when he shot their relatives. The
police chiefs said the shooting began after the trooper pulled
him over near the Bluegrass Airport in Lexington. After shooting
the trooper before noon on Sunday, the suspect carjacked another
vehicle and ended up at the Richmond Road Baptist Church
in southwest Lexington. No injuries were reported during the carjacking.
The shooting spree ended when Lexington police shot and killed
the suspect.
Speaker 4: Horrible shoot at an injure, severely injured a state trooper
where it occurred at a church, horrific. Most of the
people going there, I would say all of the people
probably going to that church. Nobody wanted to see that
that day. It doesn't really say there had to be
some kind of.
Speaker 5: Issue there with well, it says too he obviously went
there to kill somebody. Because he said somebody, he.
Speaker 4: Doesn't specify where they estranged, and you know, everybody could
see this coming. It doesn't really specify if this was
just a totally out of character thing. But with them
accusing him of being mentally ill and obvious, thank you,
Captain Obvious for that. You've got to be pretty crazy
to do what he just pulled off.
Speaker 5: He wasn't too crazy to get the gun, load the bullets,
shoot the cop, make it to the church, and try
to kill everybody.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and so just a horrible situation unfolding in Kentucky.
And hopefully some information come on as to what's burred this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure there'll be some background information. But for
that family, I would like to say, you know, absolute
prayers and thoughts, and I hope that the survivors that
are hanging in there make a full recovery and they
can get some sort of answers.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to Indiana, and a communication through snapchat
has triggered an FBI investigation into an Indianapolis mother of
seven for an alleged sex trafficking attempt of her seven
month old daughter that ultimately led to her arrest. Now.
When first confronted by agents, this was in November eleventh
of twenty twenty four, Morgan Staff, who was thirty two,
told them that her Snapchat had recently been hacked and
she no longer had access to it. She also said
she was upset at the loss of the photos of
her seven children. To these agents confront her about obvious
allegations and she says, oh, my account's been hacked. The
woman then told them she received an email from the
social media platform that told her her account had been
permanently banned for suspected online commercial sex transactions. Huh, I
wonder why. Later in the month, she allegedly admitted to
the Indiana Department of Child Services that she had lied
to federal agents about losing her Snapchat account because quote
I wanted the FBI to leave. After that unproductive initial
interview with Staff, the FBI then reached out to the
Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department for assistance in this case, and
the detective was able to acquire a search warrant to
investigate STAPs snap chet account. Subsequently, guess what selfies were
found of her that had been saved to the account
after her FBI interview that suggested she still had access
to that Snapchat account, so she was lying. Further digging
found that the account had sent over seven thousand messages
over a three day span. How do you do that?
Even in November, shortly before Snapchat reached out to the FBI,
the government agency launched its investigation. Now, one message was
repeated eighty one times in that barrage get this quote?
Would you be interested in buying my needs so I
can get my babies diapers? STAPs account was also reportedly
added four hundred other accounts during that same three day span.
The investigation showed that all of the messages had been
sent from an area near stabs home, and all of
them had been sent after she claimed she lost access
to that Snapchat account. The specific message that triggered Snapchat
to alert the FEDS reportedly included three photos of Stapp's
infant daughter. Along with them was the message you can
and I'm not gonna say the word, but it's the
F word. Her for four hundred dollars half now, the
rest later, I'll send my address. I do live alone,
and her dad is not in the picture. That was
arrested now facing a Level two felony charge of attempted
sex trafficking, booked into the Marion County Jail and being
held on a two hundred thousand dollars bond.
Speaker 5: kJ go to say what she said. First, you know,
y'all know you know by now that I that I
have a I wish I could have her, give me,
give me that child, and I will protect her with
everything and me. And I've never seen her, I don't
know her. And this woman gave birth to that child.
And to say her daddy is out of the picture,
which is all she's saying is she's defenseless. She's defenseless,
she's defensive.
Speaker 4: You ain't got to worry about him coming about.
Speaker 5: There's nobody here that will stand up to you. And
you can have free reign with my baby. I hope
all seven of her children are removed from her custody,
and I hope that she never ever ever gets them back.
Speaker 4: It's discussed, and.
Speaker 5: I hope that those other children who I'm assuming have
to be older just by process of elimination. Here are
vetted very carefully for what maybe they they have been
through my.
Speaker 4: Ams, you are you don't deserve to be walking around
with oxygen in your lungs.
Speaker 5: No, and don't ever call her mother. She's not a mother.
There's nothing motherly about that, you know. I just I
remember one time, Jim kind of off the on topic.
But I pulled up at a bank one time and
not a very small load of the ground car, and
I'll make it short, but I looked up and I
saw these little fingers come over the top of my
hood while I was in the drive through, and I
ended up finding a baby in a diaper in front of.
Speaker 4: My vehicle, just by themselves. Yes, oh my god. Yes.
Speaker 5: And so I got out of my car. Everybody was
stunned what was going on. I picked him up. He
was in his little diaper, and I'm looking around. There's
no parent around, And so the bank teller was like,
bring him inside, bring him inside, and everything maternal in
me said, no, I'm not going to do that. And
I held that baby, called the police and I would
not even let him go to anybody because the maternal
instinct was so strong to protect him because I felt
like he had nobody and he didn't. And I know
it's very bizarre, but the mother ended up being in Walmart,
which was next door to that bank.
Speaker 4: Well, how did the baby get away from month?
Speaker 5: Great question? That baby had enough time to walk out
of that Walmart and toddle over. The people of that
area ought to pay attention and follow through with this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be in that rage, that would be
in this situation. And it's one of the worst, honestly,
one of the worst messages I've ever seen. I've done
this a little while, I've never seen something that bad
when it comes to child exploitation. Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 5: Well it makes me mad me too, it makes me mad.
And I know I'm gonna just say I hope that
baby's in custody with someone who's loving and karen for her,
and that you know, she'll be.
Speaker 4: Taken care of, you know, And just to put a
put a period on this story. There are other options
out there for people that can't handle kids, or don't
want kids, or any of those sorts of things. Now
they have these these you can drop the baby off
and it's like a I don't know if you.
Speaker 5: I know it's the station type things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have those. They have those in Hammond, even Louisiana.
I don't know if they have one in Livingston Parish.
But you don't even have to like explain, explain nothing.
You put the baby in there, you push through, and
it's it's almost like a bank deposit deal. On the
other side. The baby comes and there's someone there, and
it is to avoid people just dropping their babies off
in the middle of nowhere that they can't take care of.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, this was this that's wonderful too, But this
wasn't that.
Speaker 4: No, that wasn't now. I was more responding to your
bank situation. Yeah, initially I thought maybe she just liked
the baby.
Speaker 5: Guse I saw a thing too, just to that point,
knowledge is power. But I wondered, like in cold states
that have those boxes where you can turn over your baby,
like what happens if nobody's there? But I researched itickats,
I'm a dork, and it said that they have alerts
on them, and so an alert goes off, it tells
somebody and whoever is if there's nobody actually in the
building at that time, it gives an alert and they
have so many minutes to get there and recover the baby.
But I think it had a warmer in it too,
so like it the baby wouldn't be freezing. If it
was snowing or something, it wouldn't be freezing. And because
a woman had dropped off her child and she had twins,
actually she dropped off twin babies, and she had packed
the diaper bag everything that the kids would need, and
she put the diaper bag in there, and it caused
this fiasco because the babies were too old. They were
past what the standard time frame was.
Speaker 4: They were like sixteen.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, they've had a lot of here. Here
you go take them. These things got these things don't listen.
So let's go to California. A human skin teddy bear
that was discovered outside a convenience store in California over
the weekend was likely placed there as a prank, despite
police launching an investigation. On Sunday, July thirteenth, the San
Bernardino County Sheriff's Department responded to reports of possible human
remains outside an AMPM store at a gas station. A
coroner investigator took possession of the object. Authorities had cordoned
off the parking lot while the coroner investigator looked at
the bear, which had been left just outside the store's entrance.
Despite the ongoing investigation, the bear is actually made out
of and is currently being sold online, described as a
human skin teddy bear for one hundred and sixty five dollars.
Kind of weird to me that you would throw away
a one hundred and sixty five dollars teddy bear unless
you were trying to stir something up. That's kind of
an expensive bear. South Carolina artist Robert Kelly of Dark
Seed Creations is now taking credit for the work, confirming
that he had shipped one of the bears to a
customer there last week. Kelly said he'd started getting tons
of messages and calls from people telling us about the
incident after the reports made headlines. Our work is pretty
easily recognizable, and people were sending the articles left and right.
I looked, and sure enough, it was the bear I
sent out last week. Kelly continued that every artist wants
credit for their work, So I said I made that,
and I haven't been able to catch up with messages since.
Kelly added, I guess I'd probably be lying if I said,
I wasn't enjoying it a little bit. I'm an independent artist,
so a little attention is sometimes good, regardless of not
being able to condone or whatever. I don't know if
the guy broke any laws or if it was just
a prank, but it looks like he definitely got some
people riled up. The artist, who specializes in horror, horror
special effects and haunted attractions set The artist posted a
video of the Bears in question on Facebook on Sunday,
writing that his work has been quote used in a prank. No,
I do not have any knowledge of the buyer's intentions,
nor was I involved in a prank on the other
side of the nation from me, the artist wrote, adding
that anybody can still order one of the bears online.
One of the things that we're known for is that
we make a lot of these props that are fake
human skin, Kelly said, So those are all made out
of latex, they are created from a mold, and our
stuff is pretty recognizable in the industry. So once this
happened a few hours ago, my phone started blowing up
and my Facebook started blowing up. You must be pretty
good at what you do if people are buying it
and then it's used in the industry and well recognized.
Speaker 4: And I have seen pictures of it. You can google
and see pictures. We'll put some on the Facebook page. Actually,
But it was funny, y'all because Kelly originally messaged me
when we didn't know it was fake yet. So she
messaged me and she's like, with the link to an
article referencing this before it came out that it was fake,
and she was like, oh my gosh, we got to
talk about this, and it was like the next day
it had went viral and the next day, come to
find out it was fake, but it sure looked real. Yeah,
and so we'll put some pictures on the page. But
I don't think this guy did anything wrong. I mean,
he sold it on eBay, someone bought it and decided
to pull up joke. It was a prank. Look. We
covered a story a few years back where it was
a like a mannequin that somebody had put in the
woods and it looked like a dead body. And I
know that's not funny, but I mean they did it
intentionally as a prank to prank people driving down from
the interstate, and it looked just like a dead body
so much showed that the police were called and they
show up and they're like guns drawing and everything, thinking
there's a dead person back here, and you know, then
they're like, wait a minute, that's a mannequin. So it happens.
It's where I get aggravated. Is you waste police time
when you do something like the second example. This first
example is is just on I just know this.
Speaker 5: I spent one hundred and sixty five dollars on a
damn teddy Bear. Better not end up outside a convenience store.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. We're going a long way away from
here where we go Pakistan. Good God, I told you
this is global.
Speaker 5: We're going around the world.
Speaker 4: This show is global. We don't play around, and we're
going to tell you. Look, I hear all the time
that people who don't travel outside of the United States
don't really know what it's like in other countries. Want
give you. I'm going to give you an example of
that that's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Pakistan police allege a father shot and killed his sixteen
year old daughter on Tuesday, July eighth, after she refused
to delete her TikTok account. According to a police report,
and this is the part that is absolutely insane. According
to a police report, investigator said the father killed his
daughter for honor and he was arrested soon after. The
girl's father had asked her to delete her TikTok. On refusal,
he killed her. The sixteen year old's family initially tried
to portray the murder as a suicide. One thousand women
a year are killed murdered in Pakistan due to what
is known as honor killings. So this typically happens when
a woman's behavior seems to have violated traditional expectations and
they face extreme punishment from their family members. On January thirtieth,
as a matter of fact, of this year, a teenager
was shot and killed by her family in an honor
killing because of their view on her online presence on
social media and so it said. Fourteen year old hira
am War was living in New York City at the time,
posting videos on TikTok like all these all these kids do.
She was living in a different world than her family.
She went to visit her family in Pakistan on a
family vacation. Several days after arriving, she was shot by
her father and uncle, who said they were performing in
honor killing because of the inappropriate videos that she brought
shame into the family. Pakistan society often operates under a
strict code of honor. Women are often told by their
male relatives what choices they can make around education, employment,
and even who they can marry. So that still goes on, y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so there was actually another case, I mean
from the I think the eighties or early nineties, where
there was a family of some type of Middle Eastern
descent and they were living here though in the US.
The little girl, the teenager was started dating a boy
from her high school and the dad did not approve,
nor did the mom of who she was dating, and
so they killed her with their hands in the house.
But the FBI was investigating them as possible terrorists, and
so they caught it on audio, the whole killing, but
they tried to put that off as a uh that
the girl had attacked them and they defended themselves. So
you know, I say that I'm not well traveled, but
I do understand culture, and I have studied, you know,
you learn about different cultures in different areas.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Here if if if a young girl is doing something,
I'm assuming this is a sexualized type. They felt like
she was.
Speaker 4: Being overlydar of your skin.
Speaker 5: You're sexualized, right, and so you know here we're like
put on a shirt, don't put pictures of yourself in
swimsuit or you know that are in that. But we
don't kill each other because we love our children.
Speaker 4: And I did.
Speaker 5: There's a complete disconnect here. I cannot understand that you
would want to off your child over your own honor,
like off of your own.
Speaker 3: Like what you know.
Speaker 5: And I just can't understand that. And I'm glad it's not.
Speaker 4: What we do here. Yeah. And the shocking thing is
this still occurs, sounding like something out of the stun age, right.
This is this people don't realize once you travel out
of how great this country is, how much freedom you
actually have. I know some people think they get no
freedom here. Anymore freedom is gone. Let me tell you
something good. To Pakistan for a day. Go to Pakistan
for a day. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I have a friend whose friend went there, and she's
very tall, but she did the garb, she wore all
the stuff she's supposed to wear, but a sliver of
her ankle was showing because of her height. And a
man on the street. A complete stranger on the street
had like a stick or a walking cane and whacked
her in the ankles as hard as he could for
her inappropriate showing of her ankle.
Speaker 4: Dang, you didn't beat that out, you would have died.
Speaker 5: Because I would have turn around, been like bitch and
start I know you want to talk shit you I mean,
Boosy in Pakistan would have came out. That's insane, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that really is.
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