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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to
welcome to the show, James on PROG.
Speaker 2: How you doing, James, Very good, Alex, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. My friend,
I'm excited to talk to You've been in this spiritual
game for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Now, about forty give it take a year, give it
take a year or two.
Speaker 1: Right, that's yeah. So you were doing this work when
it wasn't truly in vogue, if you know.
Speaker 2: I was the first medium on television. I was out
there and I didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I moved to LA to a sitcom writer because I'm funny,
so I thought I made money as a broadcasting sitcom writer,
which I've done a couple by the way. But it
was there that I went through a series of jobs
in LA, temporary jobs, ended up with the William Morris Agency.
I'm not in the mailor but in the basement playing
staples out of contracts eight hours a day, and I
was there and I knew how to be there. For
some reason, I thought there's something going on here. Maybe
I'll meet an agent, I'll get me a sitcom whatever.
And it was there that I had a supervisor who said,
you want to go see a medium? And I said,
what is that? And she said, he's someone talks to
dead people. Now, I just moved to LA from New
York side the cynical New Yorker and I heard California
Land the fruit Nuts. I'm like, okay, here we go
in California. So I humored this lady and I went
to see this gentleman by the name of Brian Hurst.
And I walked into his apartment in Manhattan Beach and
he said you're a medium, and I said, well, thank you.
It's small, but thank you. And now the spirit world
they want to use you as just change the consciousness.
In two years time they go do that, and I'm
like thinking, okay, this is crazy. But he went on
to open give me a message from loved ones who
passed over tailed messages, really incredible stuff. And I was
fast and how did this guy do this? So I
went to a place in La called the Body Tree,
which was probably very familiar with the Body three and
on Melbose and I used to go every weekend and
sit and read as much as I could, and all
of them subjects from near to experiences to Himalayan tests
to everything you mentioned. I at your casey everything and
I started meditating, not knowing how to, but I just
just relaxed myself and visualized rose or whatever, and I
became very very sensitized. I went to my series of jobs,
and I remember it was I was working at Paramount
Studios and it was I was a contract administrator. So
I moved with a way more s agency to Paramount
Studios there with you know, and I was working in
the contracts for syndication shows. And I remember was twelve
thirty of the afternoon. I just came back from lunch
and I went to my cubicle and this girl next
to me, her name is Joe Dallas, and she walked
into her cubicle and I looked over and I saw
a dead lady standing next to Joe Dallas. And this
dead lady looked at me like staring at me like
six cents lines like, and she said telepathically, I am
her grandmother. I lived in Idaho, a white house, a
yellow shutters. We did a footstool together and other things.
I'm like what, So I asked this girl, does this
make sense every detail? And she said, oh yeah, that's
my grandmama. We made a pack that when she goes,
she'd come back and tell me she was okay. So
I freaked out, ran out of Paramount. Now what was
happening with me? Went to my apartment, not knowing what
was going to go on, and I didn't know who
to call because it sounded like it was crazy, and
who did you go to? So I called up that man,
Brian Hurst, the medium, and I told him what was
going on. And he said, James, don't you remember the
prediction the spirit world made? And I said yes. He said, James,
I was two years ago today, so everything is in
divine order, you see. And he took me under his
wing and really helped me develop my mediumship and my sensitivity.
And then it was really a matter of me deciding
I can contact with my guides, and it was really
me deciding with them. I said, if you work with us,
we'll always take care of you. Matter of faith that
was been tested obviously, and I knew that the loving
energy that I felt when I worked that way, in
a mediumistic way, that there was nothing that could ever
be better than that this love. So I said, yes,
I'd do it. And from that point on, I started
doing a message readings with seven years in development, but
they started doing readings for people and it was old
word of mouth, and I'd be two readings a day,
and it went on for I was booked for two
years at a time and so forth, and then eventually
as producers come to my house and get a reading
in my apartment. And then I was on Solved Mysteries,
and then I was on a show called The Other
Side NBC in the early nineties, and that was the
first time a medium has been on. I was in
their pilot program and the pilot and crazy and we
run for about a year, and that was really my
stepping off point, and then it was on. I wrote
a book called Talking to Heaven based on my work.
I'm giving the shorter version of this whole thing, and
I went on Larry King and the book was it
was funny, it was very, very funny. The scure world
said to me, it's going to be a book that'll
change the world, and like, okay, so I'm open to it.
So I went to Larry King show and the book
had six thousand copies initial printing. I went on that
show December seventh, nineteen ninety six, I think it was
ninety seven, and the book went from six thousand, six
hundred thousand less than a month, and the CNN bureaus
around the world did not stop ringing telephones and springing
un till it started Friday at six o'clock, didn't end
till Sunday three three pm around the world, and they
were constant bombarded.
Speaker 1: So that was a they called the miracle.
Speaker 2: Of publishing in those days, and that got that opened
up the door for a lot of different things to happen.
Speaker 1: So so when thank you for that, very ancise, it
was a strip history life history that you had there
when you when you were you weren't raised you raised religious, spiritual?
How were you raised?
Speaker 2: I was very Catholic. My mother was a very Irish
Catholic and my father was Presbyterian. He didn't really care
about either one, and so I went to a Catholic
school for eight years, and then he went to a
seminary to be a priest for a year, don't ask,
And but it was really sense of I enjoyed the
the I guess you'd say, the incense, and the pageant,
the ceremonial, right, that part of it. I love that.
I love the prayer part. But I didn't understand certain
things like eating the body, drinking the blood of Christ
because for an eight year old, you know, what does
that mean to the cannibals. So it didn't fit for me.
But there was essence. There was an essence of it
that I liked that filled me up. So I would
say to you that I you know, people often asked
me about religions, and I said, well, there are certain
things to religions will teach us. And with everything in life,
you take what works for you, what resonates to your soul,
and you throw back the rest. And for me, that
was that sense of service of human kind that really
set there. That service have been kind and making, you know,
being that good to people living the Golden rule, and
that really helped with that foundation.
Speaker 1: I'd say, so when you started to I mean because
I was raised also Roman Catholic, and I'm still you
and I are both recovering. I'm assuming recovery Roman Catholics.
But when you were kind of confronted with this idea
of mediumship. Now I'm Latino, from where I'm from.
Speaker 2: This idea of passion.
Speaker 1: So this concept of medium ships and psychics, it's culturally
kind of baked in to the Latino culture, South American culture,
Caribbean culture, absolutely, but from your Irish Catholic not so
much so. When this was presented to you and you
started hearing ideas or voices and not, you thought you
were going, how did you reconcile the religious, the Roman
Catholic in you with this new version of what's happening
to you?
Speaker 2: In this great question? And I have to go back
to my childhood. Because of my childhood, I used to
see spirit all the time. I used to all the
time when I was really a toddler in the crib.
I remember, I remember very well. They put me in
the back room in the crib, and I wanted to
be with the adults in the living room. So I
cried my eyes out, and I remember my father used
to come back to me a big lollipop thing, and
that's going to do it. But every night I'd see
this man with white hair in the corner the room,
walk over to the crib, and he had some kind
of toy he'd play with me. And years later, my
grandmother was showing me a photograph album and she turned
a page and I said, who's that man? She said, Oh,
that's your grandfather. He died before you were born, and
that was that man, and he's come several times since that.
And then I had a lot of those experience as
a child. And he played with friends out in front
of the street, you know, stickball or whatever it was,
and I'd see a spirit around them. I'd see there
are other colors around them, and I thought every kid
could do that, thought everybody could do this. This wasn't
anything weird or unique.
Speaker 1: It was just every way it was.
Speaker 2: And when they started saying, oh, you're a weird I'm like,
I'm not a weirdo. Just I see those things. And
I remember I was saying prayers at night with my mother.
We'd say prayers every night before we go to sleep,
and I would once happened, I saw these beings at
the end of the bed, but these lights around them,
and I'd say, Mom, who are those people with the
lights on? And was oh, them, those are God's angels.
I used to see them too when I was a
little girl. They'll always take care of you. Not to harm,
They'll always take care of you.
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and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: She was very in tuned my grandparents, both sides who
were in tune. From the Welsh background and the Irish background.
There was very much that natural ability and it does
pass in families. So to me it was I don't know,
it didn't feel separate from the religion, was a way
of thinking. I guess for some people to belong, I've
never gotten into it, but I knew what was natural
for me, and I've always lived my life that it
was natural. And one thing, Alex, which I'm gonna share
with you and for all of your people watching or
listening to this, one of the biggest things I've knew
from the very beginning is I knew who I was.
And I think when one person knows who they are,
then they stay pretty grounded and they go forth. And
I never care whether people thought of me, because they
what other people think of you as none your business,
because nobody gets to know you better than know yourself.
So I know who I am. I think we all
have to know who we are, and I think are religions.
I think people are searching for something to fill up
our soul than maybe that religion does it. And all
religion does to me is it reminds us who we are. Yeah,
they can help assist us.
Speaker 1: In that reminding.
Speaker 2: But it's a mediumship to me. I guess for my love,
my development, my sole development expansion. It's very natural, and
I know I prepared, as I think we all do,
prepare for our life, our role in this lifetime. And
I'm very much a firm believer. I'm not sure you
are not. In quantum physics, and I believe in past life,
future lives, all lives at one. I know that I've
definitely prepared for this lifetime to communicate with the spirit
world and to change the consciousness of the planet. I
never have thought that before, but I see it's happening,
and things are very very different now than they were
when I first started. Of course, now we're much more
accepting of other ways of thinking, alternative ways of being
and so forth.
Speaker 1: Well, this conversation wouldn't have happened in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. I remember there were people that
used to that, skeptics who used to go to the
studio and watch me do a work, my demonstration work,
and they would say, oh, we did cold reading, and
I was like, what is that. Don't you know what
that means? Oh, you know things for you you ask
certain questions and they give you answers, and all this
stuff is coming at I mean, like, that doesn't work
for me. That's not what I'm doing. That's not And
I thought, oh, these people are ignorant. They're not aware
of how I do this, and they're making these things
up like that's bad, you can't do that. So they
didn't understand it. And I think in most of the
world is ignorance. So if people don't understand something, they
put it down. I think fear, you know, unfortunately live
in fear, and fear is limiting. Of course. I think
fear is a human emotion, not spiritual. I think it's
very human. And I think when people don't understand something,
they judge it because they fear it, they live in fear.
They judge it because they want to be better. Then
they want to be in control if you will, So
if I put you down with that and the fearful
and make you worse, then judge you. Then I feel
better then. And it's just fear based basically.
Speaker 1: Well, and at any time there's something that kind of
shakes the foundation of your belief system, you either if
you're insecure about that, you will then fight back. If
you're secure, you could. You can tell me that the
sky is purple, and I would be like, this's fine
for you, but that's not my truth. I don't have
to I don't have to go on and queue. You'm like, no,
the sky is blue, and we start a tribe about
the sky's blue people, and we're going to go kill everybody, everybody,
make sure everybody knows that the sky is blue. That's
where it comes. But it comes from a level of insecurity,
because if you are secure with your belief system, you
don't have to attack or defend it. Just is am
I right? What do you think? Exactly?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And it's also a control issue. So
many people think I've got to be in control. I've
got to control my environment. I control what happens in
my life. The truth is we have no control. You
can't control another person, you can't control what someone says,
the only thing we can control is how we respond
to things. But when people freak out, oh my god,
this is outside of my paradigm what I've been going
to do. Well, it's a paradigm shift. And you know
that's really important that people realize they have no control.
Once you realize you have no control of other people
and what other people think of you as none your business,
you shift, you open up, and you expand. No.
Speaker 1: Now, you have done probably tens of thousands of readings
over the course of your of your career, and this
at all those times, you must have had an inside
view of the human psyche in a way that most
human beings don't get in a lifetime. Is that a
fair statement?
Speaker 2: To a point? To a point, I mean, there's so
you know, it's worlds within worlds within worlds. Really think
about it, just such a vastness and expansion. So I
definitely have had a look at certain aspects of the
human and how they play, and the soul self and
the different dimensions of the soul and different sense of awareness,
if you will. And I'm very down to earth, I'm
pretty grounded. I'm double Earth's sign Capricorn and virgo. I'm
pretty down to earth about things, which I think is
very helpful in this regard. So to me, I like
to say that, yeah, I've been a witness of all
these different types of experiences, and to me it was
back to the simple truth that we are souls having
human experience, not the other way around. Where souls for time,
this human This is our schools. There our soul's school
and there are many many schools. This is one one
of the most unevolved. I guess you could say, because
we're still killing one another, we're still fighting, we still
think money is power and so forth. So unfortunately not
evolved because you know, when you kill one another person,
you're killing yourself. We're all connected, of course, so we're
not really evolved in that respect, you know, is a
simple one which I like that life to me now
as I've learned these things, the simple truth spirit says,
it's always very simple.
Speaker 1: It really is simple. Truth is very simple.
Speaker 2: But the human being lives get caught up in the
complexity of the simplicity. See say want things to be
complex because it's complex. That means something not necessarily to me,
it is really it's all about choices in life. So
we are souls. We come back and choose if you
will our family, our friends, our lessons we're going to
learn this lifetime and the series of choices. Choices are
based one of the two things, either love or fear,
and that's really it. And fear fear false ego appearing
real right is limiting where love is expansive and we're
here to love. Our natural vibration is of love. The
soul is of love, not fear fears of the human vibration.
So it's very interesting to see if if people just
go back in their lives and see what they chose
that of fear, what people think of them, what my
parents want me to do, what society wants me to
do to be accept it? Or did you live in love?
Just do you do? You?
Speaker 1: You do? You do?
Speaker 2: You want to do? And see and see the difference,
and it's amazing. So it's a simple truth if you will.
Speaker 1: So can you explain to people what the process is
for you? Are you seeing? Are you hearing voices? Are
you seeing people? Do you see dead people? Or is
it like images in your mind? What is the actual
process when you're doing a reading?
Speaker 2: Sure a great question. So it's just a little bit
of background here. Is that to me and it is
my experience I've had that the soul is Many people
think the soul is encompassing the physical body. Not really.
I would say my equation might be all a little bit,
but the idea behind it is right. That seventy percent
of the souls outside the body, only thirty percent is here.
You know, we are living on these fields. I call
them mine fields outside here and in many, many levels,
I call them these mine fields. And the mind is
the soul. The soul is the mind, and this remnant,
the smaller part here is like I call it the
big toe to the soul. Because there's more of us
outside here than in here. Right, So what I do
in preparation of communication, and because the spirit world is
all around us, you know, it's not up there heaven
or Hell. It's all around us. It's all the different
vistas and fields, if you will, around us. That vibrator
move at a certain rate of speed. So we have
all around us in types of waves, gamma rays, X rays, microwaves,
television waves, all the different waves of energy. And I
once said, this is Barbara Walters. I said, you know Barbera.
She has me on the view, so, well, how does
this work? How does this work? I said, so you're
working in a field of television and you're not sure
how it works. And he goes, well, right, when you
think about its degree right vibe broadcast. And I said
to her, you know how it works, Barbara, is your
television is the station is setting at a signal. Right,
It's sensed a certain thingnal certain vibration, and there are
receptors and the televisions, the receivers that will receive that
certain vibration and able to use take that vibration and
manifest it in a visual right. There's a basic basic
broadcasting there. And so the same thing works with mediumship
in that I have to attune myself to a higher frequency,
the higher vibration of energy. So it's all energy and
the mind. What I do with my mind in many
years development of this is I bring my mind to
a certain space, an altered state of consciousness you could say,
to a higher level of consciousness where it's a vibration
very very quick, So mind is very very open. And
what I do is because of spirit people when they
won't communicate with us, they have to Everything is done
with thought.
Speaker 1: It's available in the thought world.
Speaker 2: It's all thought.
Speaker 1: We have the physical world.
Speaker 2: They're in a mental world, so everything in that world
moves with thought, and they have to think to themselves, Okay,
I want to communicate, So I'm a slow self down
to the level that the medium is able to receive me.
So they consciously think, slow myself down. They lower themselves
down to a certain level. The medium raises up their
vibration and they meet in the middle. And that's why
it's called medium in the middle. And what happens is
and then I raised myself up that space. I've done
it so many years now, Alex like a push a
button and there is and and really they come in.
This is an interesting, interesting one that all the spirits
that come and communicate real You have to realize that
they might not have never done this before. It might
be the very first time they're doing this. So just
because they're dead, it doesn't mean they know how to
do this. It's a process. So many times when I
do demonstrations that call them for audiences or people online,
they'll be beings around me spirit people who have nothing
to do with the people that are in this in
the demonstration or on the zoom call. They're watching the
process so that another time they might come through and
do the process the right way. So they have to
slow down their thoughts and create in their minds a picture.
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now back to the show.
Speaker 2: Which could be representative memory, could be a picture of
that person they loved when doing something the day before,
and they conceived of this this concept and sent it
to the medium's mind, and the medium there's nothing about it,
nothing about these people or anything. So I have to
be open enough to say, I see a calendar it
says February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five. I know, I
feel that there's a lady here. I feel like it's
a mother feeling and I'm feeling. Oh, and she shows me. Now,
she's now showing me clairvoyantly. She get an image. She
had brown hair and blue eye as a beautiful red smile,
and she wears that yellow daisy dress. She loved the
yellow daisy dress. And yes, that's my mother. That's exactly
what she wore, and that's the day she died. And
then so it depends on the spirit because everyone is
communicates differently. They're just like in this human life. And
some people more visual, some people more auditory. Some people's
sense most of us sense things. We walk into a
room or meet someone we sense, so that sense sense. First,
there's a medium, I get the sense of them. They
push into my mind the sense of what they want
to say, and my guide to work with me and
their guides will help them to prepare or go through,
if you will, the correct way of sending a thought,
of creating an emotion, state of bringing that to the
medium's mind that I'm able to understand it. Another interesting
fact is that the mind of the medium is very
very important, so as the makeup of the medium as
a makeup for myself. My personality depends a lot, but
it affects a lot. I'm a person as you can
tell a good sense of humor. I like to joke.
I'm very down to earth, I'm very real, but I
love not thinking over seriously, just lighter. And so the
best spirits I have communicate will be those who are
relying to my personality traits. So I bring through great
of sense of humors, like a good time, who are
very serious, who are very kind. So that works in
a lignment with and my personality traits and my aspects,
my sole aspects, and it makes it reading very successful.
That doesn't mean I can't bring other spirits who I do,
like we usually bring other people through, but the easier
ones are ones that are aligned to my personality traits.
I'm throwing a lot at yourself.
Speaker 1: No, that's I completely get everything you're saying. So is
there an energy issue with you? So, like, do you
get a wave of because channelers have that, channels get
like this wave of energy. A lot of times I've
heard that they've had to kind of on the other
side and here prep their nervous system to handle this flow.
How does it worked with you and mediums?
Speaker 2: Yes, very very good. So sitting in what I called
development and sitting in the stillness of your being, which
is really really important developing mediums. And I have a
school online it's and it's been dedicated to that, and
it's really about preparation, as you say, So preparing the space.
To me, working with the spirit world is here.
Speaker 1: Go back to the religion.
Speaker 2: Now. To me, it's very sacred. So it's like going
to mass. It's like you're setting up the sacred space,
and to me it's you're a representative as a medium.
I'm a representative of the spirit world. And to me
it's an interesting one. I work for them. I don't
work for the living. I really work for them. They're
my boss, and that my job is to bring through
information that will help the spirit person come through and
to move on. So this is an interesting one. Just
because someone passes away doesn't mean they go right to heaven.
They go here. They go there many times because they
pass over into the mental world. Right, it's a mental work.
What we all have once we pass over is a
life review, and we're outside of time. So you're not
with the clock. You don't line your time anymore. So
what happens is you tend to see all those moments
in the lifetime that you lived, that you had impressed others,
or what you said to someone. So the example I
like to use is, let's say you're in a really
bad mood one day and you went to the gasoline
station and you yelled at the person the clerk behind
the cash register, and that person yelled as a storekeeper
a partner in the store, and the person of the
store went help and yelled their family and blah blah
blah mos on on rippling effect when you have the past,
like when you have that life review, you're going to
become that person behind the cash register, and you're going
to feel everything they felt when you yelled at them
ten times, twenty times, thirty times stronger than originally sent.
And you'll become aware of how your thought, your word
affect that person and that person and that person, and
you'll see the rippling effect of your one thought in
your one word. That's kind of scary, right, especially living
a life where you hurt people, You imagine that's your
own hell. So you create your own heaven, your own hell,
based on your thoughts, words, and deeds. So my job
is really as a medium is to bring through let's
say that spirit who has unfinished business, who's ever to
come back and say I'm sorry, might to his daughter,
I'm sorry, I didn't love you. I didn't know how
to love, so.
Speaker 1: How could I loved you?
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, So it's unfinished business. Basically, it's my
job is to bring through that, so to provide proof
of life after death.
Speaker 1: So but it isn't okay, I agree with that, But
doesn't that get caught up in karma, meaning like in
another life they deal with that or can they deal
with or can they.
Speaker 2: Deal with it like this one hundred percent? So what's
going on is they kept to cut again. It's all learning,
it's learning, learning, learnlearning that what you give out you
get back, and that's karmac. So every action is a reaction, right,
So every act that someone does has a reaction, and
that's a natural law. So there's a natural law involved.
So yes, but if they can, if they can willingly
have the awareness to say I'm sorry to say this,
that will help. That certainly helps, because they're in that
state of apathy, they're in a state of them that
they're they're in a healing state. They didn't know any better.
They're awakened, if you.
Speaker 1: Will on the other side, on the other side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, that's correct. And many who are awake
over there, who wake up and realize what they've done,
they feel bad about it. There's a little bit of
you know, I'm gonna say, I don't go back to
our Catholic purgatory thing. But there's that waiting station because
they got to take care of themselves. They got to
they've got to honor what they did and what they
didn't do. And one of the most interesting things that
the spirit people have said to me they've come through
is and I wrote a book called Unfinished Business because
they got tired of human spirits say this, and they
would say, Wow, if only I knew then what I
know now, I would have made choices. I wouldn't have
behaved that way. I would behave more loving, more compassionate,
more kindness. I would have her gay easier. I wish
I had known that in it. So I wrote that
book just for that, because if the world knew that,
you know, just imagine if everybody knew that when they
left the physical body, that have a life review and
have to feel everything ten times, twenty times, thirty times
stronger how I treated people. Wow, wouldn't the world be
different because it'd be a sense of responsibility. Yeah, And
I think that's a secret.
Speaker 1: I think that really is a secret.
Speaker 2: In the teaching people, you have to be responsible with thoughts,
your words, and your deeds because they don't go unnotice
this energy you're putting out there.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. Do you you believe
in the Soul Blueprint or soul I Plan Okay. So
with that concept, from my understanding of my research and
people I've spoken to on the show, you choose your
life and you choose the actions you're going to do
in that life. So a lot of times you're in
your soul family, which is your group, right, So let's
say you and I are in our soul family, and
in this time we're sitting we're sitting having coffee on
the other side, and we're both talking. We're like, look,
I'm going to go back down. You want to come
with me? Yeah? Sure, And like, you know, when in
this life, I really need to know what it feels
like to have someone who doesn't love me and because
and then I'll go you know what, I'll go down,
I'll take the bullet, and I'll be your dad, and
I won't show you any love. So on a soul level,
we have this kind of pre built plan. So then
when they come back and they're saying, oh, I wish
I would have known, it doesn't connect. Can you kind
of explain it? We're going we're really going into weeds here.
So I'm just curious what your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: So well, also, suicide some people, well not necessarily because
the soul group might have agreed upon that that in
that soul group, one of them I had to learn
with the experience of suicide it was and how the
rest of the people around them would handle that.
Speaker 1: That happens quite a lot.
Speaker 2: So a lot of the experiences we have here, whether
it's physical problems, mental problems, whatever, it is, interaction and
the biggest of course, teachers are our family. Hello, they're
number one teachers because they represent you. You're looking at yourself.
So there is that sense that we all have destiny points,
call destiny points there were to do certain things. But
then comes a part of free will, right, so it's
destined that we have this situation happen.
Speaker 1: Let's say we meet for coffee.
Speaker 2: On the earth and we can do many things that
we can be friends forever. It can just be equipped
meeting with a coffee, or we can decide to live together,
whatever it might be. But there's free will involved there.
So again, the more someone knows their soul self, the
more they know themselves that inner self, the easier it
is to make the right choice that's right for them
at the moment. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: It makes yeah, So the closer you are to your
true self because then you will be connected to that
true admission.
Speaker 2: And it makes sense because it doesn't make rational sense.
Speaker 1: At all, right, you becoming a medium, You know this
makes no sense when you make no sense.
Speaker 2: I mean I really jumped in because, like I have
no way of knowing how to get paid, had to
pay the rant, to have paid my insurance, okay, anything,
But I did it with faith because I knew that
they said to me, will take care of you. And
I never knew how it was gonna come about, but
it's come about, and they've taken care of me. For
forty five years. I've been taken care of. And I
think we're all taking care of when we do the
right thing and we take responsible for who we are,
and we see God in everyone, which is that brilliant light.
We all have that same God, and if we just
treated each other we see God, we'd be better off.
I think that every day we're given opportunities. Every day
in our path, you have either a teacher or a
student that walks in your path and to recognize that
what are you gonna learn or what are you gonna teach?
And that's what it is, you know, I really do
believe that and what you give out you get back.
It's that karma whatever you want to call that, that energy,
that natural law.
Speaker 1: And James, I mean, I agree with you one hundred
percent because when I started the show, I was like,
this is insane. Why am I starting a spiritual show.
I'm not a guru, I have no street credibility in
this space. But I was guided to do this, and
I jumped in with faith that it would all work
out and it wouldn't destroy what I had already built
because I was afraid because as you know, when you
when you come out and go public with this kind
of stuff and start talking, it's not the norm. Yet
it's more accepted and it's growing daily, but this is
still you know people, You and I are having a
fairly intelligent, grounded conversation about this, which is really helpful
for what we're trying to do in the world in
raising the consciousness. We'll be right back after a word
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Speaker 2: But I also have I think that, as you said that,
I don't mind me getting a hit for you, but
I have to I think that when you say that
that the part of your soul self on the other
side knew this and I had to do this, and
the physical is now is catching up on it, and
I think that it's meant to be obviously, and the
conscious like, you're here to change the consciousness. You're to
open the minds of people up and more and more
people and whether we want to talk about you know,
the world the way it is right now, the darkness,
the fear, whatever it is out there and people don't
feel connected. It's worked like this, that being piled together
because there's a resonance the sense of truth. It opens up,
that stirs their souls that this is truth, and it
gives them a platform. It gives them a platform to
go to and is that well, I understand this. This
is more This makes more sense to me than other things.
Speaker 1: Do you know? This is the truth?
Speaker 2: I don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but this is
the truth right here, you know. And that's I think
a great thing to give people that opportunity to have
that sense of up to that faith and have When
I started my school, the JP School Mystical Arts, four
years ago, it was a school that I want to
leave a legacy for my work. And something happened out
of that which I'd never expected, And what happened was
they became a sense of community, a lot of community,
and people thank me over and over again for having
a space that people can go to are like minded people,
because there aren't many. So what you're doing, what I'm doing,
many others doing, are presenting that space for those who
think the same way, who can think out of the box,
who believe in faith whatever that means. You know, you
can't limit God. I think religion, going back to that
religious like, I feel in many ways religion limits God
and God is limit less. You know, he can't put
a name on God's limitless. And I think the more
pot that knew themselves and know God better.
Speaker 1: So this, this is always something that's fascinated to me
about mediums and psychics in general. Is we all saw
the movie Ghost, you know, back with Whoopy Goldberg.
Speaker 2: I just standing ovation. I was working a paramount at
the time, and it's standing ovation is screening of a paramount,
And people were looking at me like they got it right.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, it was so perfect. And I've had
I've had Bruce the writer on the show, and he
explained to me he wrote.
Speaker 2: Researched, he did a great job.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a psychedelic experience talk that God
came back, wrote Jacob's Ladder. I mean, and you watch
those movies and you're just like, oh, okay, everything all makes sense.
So when he wrote Ghost, which nobody wanted, but eventually
God made Whoopy Goldberg's character that she sees dead people constantly.
I always wonder do you have an on and off,
open and closed sign? Because if now you're like eating,
you know, you're in the bathroom, you look over, oh
Jesus not now like how does that work? Do you
have like barriers or just like hey guys, no or yes,
I'm open for pray.
Speaker 2: It's a great question, and it's an important question you're
asking because I am the I scream about this from
the Hit Mountaintops because and God bless mister Reuben for
doing that move because it really has opened people up,
so medium should in general. To me, I developed in
the old fashioned way, and I developed a seven years
sitting in the quiet, sitting in the stillness, and I
wouldn't do one reading because it had to work on
my energetic self, my soul self to really develop that
that progression of development in order to be able to
give a message to someone because it's very much like
to me, like medical work, a doctor or a lawyer.
You know, people's lives that you're responsible for and that
can be taken easily. That's not a no joke. You've
got to be really a lot of integrity. And to me,
I've been very worked, very very hard throughout my well,
not hard word hard, but my integrity is really strong
in that I would not present something if it wasn't
the right way it was and if I didn't know
what somebody say, I don't know it, you know, just
because I don't know everything. So to me, I tried
to present the mediumship with my TV show, with the
Beyond show I had, and John Edward did a good
job at his show crossing Over, and it was presented
a certain way, which I like. But then what happens
is younger people that came into Mediumship want to be stars.
Speaker 1: They want to be fast and fewrus.
Speaker 2: They want to get it in and be in the
TV and be a star.
Speaker 1: It's like, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't go in the medium to be a star.
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen that way. And think of all those
people's lives that you're hurting by doing it the wrong way.
And when I say the wrong way, like, for instance,
there was a lady Miniatresa Caputo at the Long Island
Medium you remember that show longl Medium, And she was
a lady who nice lady. I met her once, very
gifted lady. But the producers who produced that show did
not know how to produce it correctly. They do not
know about mediumship. I was with the same thing with
the show Ghostfist Bros. Evolved and I had a lot
of tiople with the producers who didn't know at all
how to produce this sort of thing and the way
there's no sense of responsibility of what you're putting in
the air waves. So they have Treescapuda out there in
a bake shop, in a butcher shop, in a car
and she says, dead people, oh my god, this person's
oh my god. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't
work that way because that person would end up in
the nuthouse.
Speaker 1: Because that's why I ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they're teaching that, They're throwing that to the public
thinking this is the way it is. No, it doesn't
work that way as a medium. As I said, before
you have. It's a sacred it's a sacred space. You
have to prepare yourself and when you're ready to work
is that's if you will an on off switch. As
you said, you're able to open yourself up and you
say what what you get. It's not like pop, here
goes this one, pop goes a weasel, here's this way.
Doesn't work that way. The media may be aware of
those people around, but certainly it's it's like a ceiling fan.
You can't have that ceiling fan on all the time
because you'll burn out the motor. Same thing with mediumship.
You gotta be very very careful. It's a delicate art
because you work with your dreamal system and the glandulist
system and that nervous system. Very yeah, it'll tax it
very very easily. You'll be taxed out. And I've seen
many medium pass away with cancers and bad diseases and
endocrint problems because they're not they're not integrated the right way.
They're not measured. The work is not measured. It needs
to be measured. It needs to be a process. There's
another guy on TV, the young kid that's on right now.
I totally agread and again again we're throwing this stuff
out there. Now. He might have abillity, certainly has some cindability.
It's not worked out because he goes for a psychic
point of view and a median point of view, and
he doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know what's
psychic or what's medium. He doesn't know the difference between
the two. And they throw that out to the public.
Doesn't know any better, and it's like, that's that's going
to harm people, and it's gonna harm him because he's
a young boy. He's twenty four. He's had no life
experience in order for the spirit world to draw from
in order to give a message out. And it's showing
public that this is the way it is. That's not
that's not the way it works.
Speaker 1: And that's me is a really tough one, you know. Yeah,
And in that show too, you could see where he
wears out. You could actually, I've seen something of this episode.
You start seeings like I can't I need this. He's
having problems with it because he hasn't properly been trained.
Speaker 2: And if you had a run, it's called running your energy.
He doesn't know how to run his energy. Properly, because
it took about the chakra points, which about opening up.
We're all electual beings and if you don't charge it
the right way, you're going to be depleted quickly. And
I'm telling you as it is. And you have all
the pressure from television and producers and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1: Who finished in the work at all?
Speaker 2: Listen. I did a show called The Beyond. Show was
for a whole year and it was like a kind
of a talk show. I go on, I do it
readings for the audience and the private reading on the stage.
I remember the people that produced that with me. That's
when they carry seig and her name was and I
gave her a reading before the before we went to
the pilot, just so she would know what the process was.
And I brought through a girl. I said, this little
baby girl at dodgead twenty of yours at die. She goes, yes,
that's right. And it was very a good reading because
I wanted to give her the awareness of the education
of it. And then during the show, I'm doing a
message for a lady on stage and she had lost
her someone very important, and the producer was so fearful
of is he going to get a hit. He's got
to get a hit. So instead of having just the
bride die, we have the whole, the grooms, the whole,
the whole wedding party dies, and it'd be like crazy
because the way they think. So I'm working with this
late lady on stage. At the corner of my eye,
I see an associate producer in the wings and she's
holding up a sign and I said, make her cry,
And I said, stop tape right now. Not only is
not her ful to the audience members and the lady
getting the message, but that is completely wrong space. So
I literally went up to the booth and I yelled
at the at the producer, and you cannot do that.
Don't ever insult us like that. Then never install the
spirit world like that. And then another thing that happened
was which I'll never forget this. I did many shows
a day, I did fifteen shows whatever it was. We
double booked stuff and I worked by rear end Off,
and I remember there was a series of murders and
I don't know what's going to happen. I separate myself
in a different building, which I shouldn't have, but I did,
And there was all these murder stories and it was
depleting and probably the six murders. I said, I will
not do this again this week. I doesn't murders, murders
a heavy duty, Oh not the energy energy energy heavy
So I said, I won't do that, and she was Oka,
it's your last one. It's your last one, and said, well,
I won't do this tomorrow, No way. So because I
had to protect the vessel, I had to protect it.
So the next morning I come in eight thirty and
there's a script there says a murder of Joshua, and
I'm like, I throw it back out to the PREDI
I'm not doing this, and you just want I said no,
and I literally, Alex, I have to go to this
point of the young and I wants to do this.
I had to literally lock my door and knock them
out of my dressing room until they change the.
Speaker 1: Store, like like like a temperamental actor.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm not that way, but that's the level
I have to go to for them to understand that's
not appropriate. And this had the studio came, my agents came,
managers came, was like, you have to understand the sensitivity,
of the nature of the sensitivity of this work. And
if you don't, that's not my problem, that's your problem.
I won't harm myself or other people for this.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. You know what is
so interesting too, because I come from that world very
very much. So I've been for thirty years. So you, oh,
I understand at such a deep level you have no idea, James,
because you're absolutely right in many ways. And this happens
with young actors, this happens with stars who just blow
up all of a sudden. It almost is like, and
please forgive me for using this word. Let's bring out
the freak, and let's try to use and milk this
as much as we can while it's the good is going.
That's Hollywood. That's Hollywood since the day's of Chaplain. It's
always been that way. And sometimes you get, you know,
a good team that makes it go work. But many
times you get to like the more elaborate kind of
reality show kind of like, let's make them that kind
of aspect of things. And I hope that this show
I really try to bring more of a human face
to this kind of work. And also channels which channels
on a whole other level because they get, especially trans
channels turn into other people and the voices change, and
all the talk about like, ooh, let's let's see what
the quote unquote, I geint what the freak does. Let's
put the camera on them, and let's make money. How
can we make money with this? It's not that you
have to respect what we're all doing in this space,
and I think the process. I do believe, and I think,
and i'd love to hear your thoughts from where you
started in the eighties to where we are now. I
believe things have changed a bit in regards to the space,
the respect of this art and what we're doing. Would
you agree, Yeah, yes, and you said it correctly.
Speaker 2: It's an art. It really is an art, and it
has we looked at that way. It's not an entertainment.
It's an art. Now, if you have personality like me
and personality that they can do that and bring out
the arpitals will be the fun of it. That that's great.
But it's an art and it's got to respected, and
it's a sensitive art, you know.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: There was a movie of my life with Ted Danson
played me and based on my first was Talking to Heaven. Yeah,
I don't know if you knew that, and I wouldn't
know that when again it was a movie, I have
a lot of the background. Yeah, I'll tell you that.
It's a funny story and it shows you how the
spiral is also intervenes and how every day they interviewed
our path. Well, the book did so well that CBS
bought the book to do a movie. It was movie
the week Time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So NBC had it.
They dropped it down and development and CBS bought it.
And I met with a long story, but I heard
what I heard was and is the way it worked out.
I got a call from that man who was writing
the book, the movie Talking to Heaven. It was such
a great when I went to a miniseries, So they
went to miniseries, Nina Testa, I wanted to do a
mini series and less moonfes. Okay, So from what I understand,
Mary Steam Virgin was on a plane and she said
to me, I never talked to people on a plane.
So there was this man sitting writing a script and
she's sitting next Tom and she heard her father say,
you have to talk to him. You have to talk
to him.
Speaker 1: So she asked the guy.
Speaker 2: She goes, what are you writing? He goes, oh, I'm
funny you're sitting here. I'm just thinking of you for
a part. And it's Talking to Heaven, based on James
Van Progg's book. And she goes, oh, that's my favorite
book I've given to all my friends blah blah blah blah.
And he goes, oh, yeah, I'm writing this. This isni
series here and she goes, can you get me in
touch with the author, and so he goes, ye, I'll
probably be able to. So I met with Mary and
he did a reading, which I rarely do, but I
felt I had to do this. It was important. I
don't know why I felt it what I did. So
I said, yes me, I'll be love to do a
reading with you. And I went to her house in
Brentwood and we had her and Ted and friends of
theirs and we'rell sitting around and I'm like, okay, so
I do this thing was really good. Night. Spirit was
right there and Ted's father came through and Ted is
sitting on a little like ottoman and his father said, Ted,
I'm here. I'm having my whiskey and my herringbone jacket
and he said, and he said, you know I'm in
heaven if I'm having my whiskey and my haring bone jacket.
And Ted Danson looks at me and he's like crying
and he falls down on the floor. I'm like, oh no, what.
Speaker 1: Did I do? Did dance? Oh? God? Did I break
tad dancing?
Speaker 2: Gee?
Speaker 1: Did I break tend dancing? Oh jeez.
Speaker 2: So it was so funny because afterwards we're hanging out
and it was just a great night. He goes and
he didn't believe in any of it until then, and
he said, that was just so weird. Every night my father,
every time my father come home from work every day
he put on his harrybone jacket and had a whiskey
in front of the fireplace. And that's how he died.
James I said, Wow, that's incredible. Ted. The next day,
I get a phone call from the production company and
they said, listen, we don't know we're going to do
the movie. I said, why, well, no one wants to
play a medium. Gary Snise turned it down, and someone
else turned it down, and Less Moonvez CBS said there's
only one more person he could try because he has
a contract with this guy who does Becker Ted Danson,
I said, Ted dancing. I was at his house last night. Wait,
wait a minute, Well can you ask him? I said no,
I can't ask him. I can't cross that line. That's
not appropriate. I cannot do that. So it was that weird.
I was so weird. So then what happened was his
manager called me. Ted's manager it called me and said,
can you meet with me regarding the sake CBS Collin
said sure, So we met and Ted agreed to do
it because based upon that reading, his father came through
and the miniseriies happened with Queen Latifa was in it,
Diane Ladd, these people. Uh, Jack Palance played my father
and it was just so weird. And it was the
number one mini series of CBS History except for Jesus.
And because of that mini series and you can still
download now and Amazon whatever, it then opened up to
they want to do more with me. So we did
another movie with a lady by the name of who's
just starting out and Eva Longoria. You've heard of her.
Speaker 1: She was in on the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she wasn't going to be in New Orleans.
We're doing this this mini series. She said, came up
to me during the breaks, mister Van Prau, can I
ask your question? I said, sure.
Speaker 1: She becaes.
Speaker 2: I just finished a pilot and I was wondering if
it's going to do anything. And I said, well, what's
the name of question. It's called House. It's going to
change your life. It's just really I said, oh, it's
going to change your life. You'll see. Well years later
we know the history of that. Then the miniseriies and
the movie did so well with Anne Haitian even Mongory,
and that was before Eve was Eva. It was Anne
hash to the Star and it went so well that
they want to do a series. And now they wanted
to do a series, so they asked me to develop
a series, and I developed a Ghost Whisper with Jennifer
Love You It and it.
Speaker 1: Did really, really well.
Speaker 2: And then well and the Universal Cafeteria right in office
at Universal, and also I see Eva and coming over
and her eyes met at the same time and went
went ah. And I went over and I said, did
it change your life? And she goes, oh my god,
So yeah, wow. One of those stories that you know
had the interweaving of all those things that the spirit world,
you know, they were in our lives and how they
worked really hard behind the scenes to make things happen.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny too, because of something that
I've said on the show so much, is when you
when you learn how to let go of truck of
this false idea that you could control everything. Right, when
you let go, things start to happen. It's kind of
like doors start to open that we're closed before. And
that's such a people don't understand when they hear let go,
I'm like, I can't let oh, I have you have
to still like I didn't, They say stop, just sit
down and wait for the door to knock. Get up.
And you know, I always say cut the wood, carry
the water, but don't connect where that would cross.
Speaker 2: We need the wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that too, but I always say that don't
don't expect where this is all going to go. Just
do the work, and if you're going on the right path,
doors will start to open.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the boats have a great saying that I'd
love to use every day. It is you can't push
the river. You you can't push that river. You got
to let it flow. And it's very very true. Because
when you open that space up, you allow the energy
to flow. It's all but letting the energy flow. So
I do a lot of work with people and we
do we're called scanning, and we scan the body energy
the body, and we'll scan the body. There'll be certain
let's say, the emotional body. There's something I call it staining.
And you will say, oh, you have staining there. Yes,
I went through a divorce. Well it's still there and
it's blocking the rest of the energy flow. And we
have that every day. And I think it's really important
that through meditation through self that you open up those
channels every day because a lot of us, Alex, I
don't know what your thoughts about this. We take on
energy from other people. I think absolutely, especially being sensitives
and and and beings here, the energetic beings, And I
think and I want to hear I'd like to hear
your point of view on this, because I just thought
about this two weeks ago, that you know, we take
on that throol's energy and many time do we keep
the energy there in our space? We tend to look
at life or make choices based upon that person's energy
because we're looking through rose colored glasses. Does that make
sense to you that we're not it does?
Speaker 1: It does make sense to me because I have I
have a family which is all women in my family
have no boys. I have no testoterone in the house
at all. And as being the only male in the
in the house, a lot of times there's some drama
in the female side of the fat not with me,
just on the you know, because they're young girls. And
so a lot of times I will pick up on
that energy and then I will notice myself change and
I would be like, and I start getting a little angrier,
or I get a little bit more perturbed, or my
or my patience threshold drops dramatically. Uh. And the only way,
only in the way that family does, right.
Speaker 2: The greatest teachers, Yeah, the greatest teachers.
Speaker 1: So I do notice that. But everybody, I think can
agree that when you walk into a room, sometimes you
will go, what happened just here? If there was a
fight before and now it's quiet, you walk in and go,
there's something in the air we all can feel. Or
you meet somebody and you want to like take a
shower afterwards, like you just met a car salesman, sorry
car salesman, or you know, a sales sales guy or
some sort and you're just like, oh I just oh god,
I feel icky just being around this person. That's an
energy thing. That's an energy thing. So absolutely, and a
lot of times that energy will stick with you. I'm
not sure if on the one off with the salespeople,
but or a salesperson as anikey salesperson, but people that
are close to you. Absolutely, your your mother comes to visit,
your father comes to visit, your brother comes to visit,
and you have issue, or you have history or they
say that word that just sets you off because of
all that history that sticks with you and you can't
make clear decisions when you're in that state. We'll be
right back after a word from our sponsor and now
back to the show. Right. So I think it's really important.
Speaker 2: And the way I look at it, like as many
times as it's programmed, So because broadcasts three, that program
is sending programs and we pick up those programs and
we see them and then we can realize whose program
it is and let it go, or we don't recognize
it and we make it our own. See and part
of it, we get stuck there because we make their
problems our problems. Their energy is our energy, and it's
their program, not our program, but we make it ours.
So we have to be able to translate and find
out whose program is this? Welly am I feeling this way?
What just happened that I'm sensing this? Am I holding
onto this energy?
Speaker 1: We're going to let it go.
Speaker 2: And with mediumship, what I do with the work I
do is times I will pick up the energy.
Speaker 1: Of that force.
Speaker 2: Is how they passed away the grief that they have
from the spirit world. I should have would have could a.
And it's so amazing because then when you and you're
working with someone who's in the living state and they
hear their loved one, their orc field opens up and expands,
and there was something that's deep, dark down and dense
opens up and expands and you see a beautiful light,
You feel beautiful energy, and they feel so much better
and the spirit feels so much better. So and it's
just a matter of love. So love is that love
is the best way for us to let go of
other people's energy from our space and to really open
up our own self as love of self, being aware
of self. But love is the ingredient that brings all things.
Speaker 1: Together and you, you and I both have studied Yogananda
and studied the Yogis in India, and you hear these
stories that there's nothing that really moves them in the
sense of energy like that, because they are so connected
to the inner place, that thing that we were talking
about earlier. They're so connected to it that the one
I think the Maharishi, they gave him some psychedelics he
ate like a pot and did nothing. He just laughed
after he ate it because he literally had so well
controlled of his physical state and spiritual state that didn't
bother them. So those energies don't They kind of just
bounce off or they don't even connect with them because
they are a deep understanding of who they are. They're
at a whole other level that you and I are
not at this point.
Speaker 2: But does that make sense to you completely? Completely? And
it's the emotional charge that and it's like holding on
to a charge waiting for the outcome. What's for the outcome?
As there is no outcome, everything.
Speaker 1: Should be neutralized.
Speaker 2: I think a good point Alex and I've helped with
a lot of people. If this has helped me as well,
is you become the observer. You step back and you
observe everything. It's almost like you're sitting in an audience
watching a theater at the actual show, and you see
the show play on stage, but you don't get involved
in it, but you're aware of what's who the characters are,
and what's going on. But even life, you can be objective,
be observant, be an observer of life. Don't be so
involved when you don't have to be. Only when you're
when you're meant to. But just observing really helps a lot,
and it really helps a lot. The same thing got
maybe with psychedelics. I was giving them, nothing happened. I
was given some what was it, hyahuasca years ago and
I hadn't experienced people are leaving the room when they're
throwing up and having you know, diary and also like
what's going on here? And I didn't feel any of that,
And I just had an awareness like I don't awares
of my guide or my higher self, and it was
just it was quite of the validation of what I
already knew. It was nice, but I don't need it.
Speaker 1: I don't write it exactly. And if I cant quote
Yogananda on this, he's like so so many times we
get caught up in if we're in a movie theater,
we get caught up with what's on the screen, which
is what you're saying, be an observer, but we get
caught up in the people dying and people yelling, in
the wars and the anger, and you get caught up
in the drama. He goes, but you need to stop,
look back and turn around, and your goal should not
be to look at the screen, put to find out
where the light is coming from. Oh that's great, the
projector to look back at the projector. I was like, huh, oh,
that's so wonderful, So so wed.
Speaker 2: It's the reminder if you don't mind. It reminds me
of an experience I had with a good, good, good
friend of mine who passed over. Her name was Olivia,
and she was a British lady, how a little older
than I was, and we used to go to spiritual
healing circles for years, thirty forty years. She said mediums
and do a whole bunch of different things. And we
made a pack that whoever goes over first comes back
right away and tells the other one what it's going
to be like. So I'm driving. I'm in Cineitas, California,
and I'm driving down the street and I see her
face and my windshields, like, Olivia, are you dead? And
she said, I'm not the dead one. You are. I'm like,
what about back home? And her daughter sent me an
email said from Australia and she said, my mother passed
away a twelve o two. And I said, oh, I
know very well. And then I asked, Olivia says, show me,
and she took my mind into a space, into a
cinema like you're talking about. And Olivia said, it was
very weird, James, she was very strange. I walked into
the cinema and I'm walking in and all these people
are sitting watching the screen, and she showed me them.
She They're all looking up at the screen, and I realized, oh.
And I go into the screen and suddenly all these
beautiful flower are there, and these colors and people that
haven't seen many, many years. So I just smiled at
ones came to greet me, to receive me the most
beautiful things. I was so alive, and the fact of
the people in the seats watching the screen and they
were the dead ones, and she just talked about that,
and she said it was beyond her belief, and she
has been into this work for a long time, beyond
her belief. And she said, it's the little things you
do in life that matter the most. And she goes
those people, those kind people. I gave a kind word,
I opened the door, I smiled at someone. They're the
ones that came to greet me, to thank me and
to welcome me. Very important. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know what your one thought, your
one word, that any interaction you have with people, it'll
make a difference every day. I did my best whenever
I'm interacting with the public, I'll put a smile on
someone's face. And that's just because energetically I'd like to
change that. So if I go to Starbucks and some
I have a hard to say I love that.
Speaker 1: Green apron you're wearing, No I can wear.
Speaker 2: It like you, and I just let them stop and
give them a moment of cheer and if it changes
her whole day, you know, oh.
Speaker 1: Exactly, A nice a nice little comment, a nice little saying.
Just as the same way as like you say to
something negative, you could easily say something positive exactly, and
and fear loves.
Speaker 2: The negativity is fear and love is positive.
Speaker 1: So, James, I'd love to talk to you a little
bit because we've kind of dabbled a little bit about
what happens on the other side. We've had a lot
of near death experiences on I have a general idea
from having near death experience too, so I would love
to hear about this near death experience. But from my
understanding between the work, I do have a somewhat of
an understanding. It changes, but the general there's a big
mile Markers life review, you know, these kind of things.
I'd love to hear your near death experience, if you
don't mind me to share. And then from your experience,
what does truly happen on the other side.
Speaker 2: Well, well, my experience was and I was doing mediature
for quite a while when this happened. But I remember
I was I was drinking in LA after a show
and I went to my friend Victoria, and I think
maybe that was I'm not sure, but we had one
glass of one bottle of wine that was really it
wasn't a lot, but somehow I started bleeding esophacause I
was bleeding, I guess and I was throwing up and
I came back. So I lived in Laguna Beach at
the time, and it came from La down to Laguna
and every exit in the freeway to go.
Speaker 1: Off and throw up.
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel good for like, oh good fifteen minutes.
Then I had to go again. And so I got
home in Laguna Beach and I called up my partner
at the time and I said, I'm really sick and
I know what's going on. He said, well, just wait,
you know tonight, I'll come by. It's okay, And I
again every half hour to go. So that night came
over and he's everything was fine, and I said, oh, well,
here it comes again. And I went to the bathroom
and I and I blacked out my head at the
counter and I fell on the floor and I pulled
I popped her out of the body, and I'm looking
down in my body. I'm like, okay, what's this about? Like, okay,
I know it's on my time. I know I was
immediately outside of linear time, but I knew that this
was not my time to go. I just that and
I said, what's happening here? And all of a sudden,
my cousin Patricia came in front of me, and but
cousin Patricia completed suicide when she was forty eight, and
she taught me metaphysics when I was a child, right,
and I hadn't seen her since, And I said, pat
pat is it over? She goes, it's gonna be over.
Don't worry it.
Speaker 1: You mean over over or over?
Speaker 2: Please let me know because I needed.
Speaker 1: Some help here.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden she disappeared. And I immediately
became aware of everybody having this, if you will, this
sense of a chord coming out at the top of
their heads, and the court it was, yes, this chord,
and it went into this tapestry matrix tapestry wouldn't call it.
And I know that the thoughts that we had created
the color or the structure and into this ribbon, and
this ribbon then bled into that tapestry, and I realized, Oh,
my thoughts create in that tapestry, the beauty or the
ugliness in that tapestry. I'm like, oh wow, And we
all have that chord, that ribbon that leeds in there,
and did life review We look and see what we
did with that tapestry? Do make it more beautiful or
do we not? And then I really had that insight.
And it then was into a garden and my father
was there and he was wearing a brown suit and
he came to he said, come here, you're getting your
white rose. He goes, it's not your time. You got
to go back, and I said okay, and I was
like I fell right back into the body and my
head hurt, and my partner, Brian at the time, was like, James,
wake up, wake up. And the first words out of
my mouth were dying as easy, living as hard. And
now why did I have the experience? I only know that.
Years later, I was doing a seminar, some kind of
seminar with a lot of people, and the lady who
organized it said, well, your reading is a little bit different.
They're a little bit more high end, like a high
level of teachings, and she was right. So however that worked,
I definitely was bringing through higher awareness, if you will,
life lessons more than I had done before so and
it just helped me realize even more that our thoughts
are things, and how we treat each other it's very
very important.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Yeah, I'd imagine so
that that you were through that near death experience, it
kind of elevated your vibration to a point where then
you could start picking up these new signals of these
higher teachings. Does that make sense correct?
Speaker 2: And I'd have to say, Alex, based upon my sister
just passed in April, who's also in mediumship. Yeah, and
she was. She was very funny because she kept herself
severing to the end and she goes, is this dead?
Because I don't like this. I said, well, it's time
for a magic carpet rode. You're gonna go soon. Anyway,
she said was, and and other people have said it
come through. They say the first thing to say is well,
we're part of many, many worlds.
Speaker 1: We're worlds within worlds.
Speaker 2: There's all these different worlds that we're part of, and
we choose what world are going to emphasize in the lifetime.
We're part of all these different worlds. And she said
to me, I was wading my garden I have here
in Incidios and it's a pretty garden. And I said, Lenna,
help me love the garden, and she goes, I wasn't
able to see beauty in this lifetime. She shouldn't allow
herself to see beauty. So it's interesting because we take
on this soul, takes on all of these we have
attributes to the soul, and we take on all these
experiences and situations that really test those attributes, that bring
those attributes out to the surface and really do test
them to make us better, to help us to understand
each other, to live someone else's life. I mean, it's
it's a great opportunity here in this three dimensional world
called school called Earth. But the all different stations in life,
and we have everything. The astral world is very much
similar to the Earth, but even better. The gardens are
of the colors more colorful, they say, the colors that
you have the real sense of color is natural gemstones.
That that really is the right color if you will
to measure color from your dimension. So and you can
have anything you want. You on the other side, and
I remembers on Larry Kingside saw when your father's playing golf,
and Larry goes they have golf over there. So you
can have whatever you want. If you want a golf,
you can have golf. If you pass over and you
have your you like a drink a cocktail. You can
create that with your thoughts and you'll have a cocktail
in your hands and you can drink it, and you'll
have a memory of that, says create it. You won't
have the same hit as you would in the physical
because not a physical body, but you have the memory
of that. So it's certain things a memory, like they
might be desired to have food again because you have
the memory of that in the earth. But that'll die
off because you won't need that anymore. What you adjust
or acctl me to your new way of being, that
old Steff fluss off, you don't need that anymore.
Speaker 1: So you said, this is something I want to kind
of dig into. You just said, there are many, many worlds,
and this is starting to touch into quantum physics and
into parallel lives and the multiverse and multiple worlds. And
then it's kind of like you go outside to side
and you go up and down and there's depth. So
it's like all the way between parallel lives and multiverses
and quantum jumping to different realities and things like that.
That again, quantum physics is talking about this concept of
multi worlds and we choose which one to emphasize I've
heard and this is difficult for our brains to kind
of process, but all of our lives are happening at
the same time, completely very difficult for us to understand
us because we say past lives. We literally say past lives,
so like, oh, I was an Aztec, or I was
in Rome, or I was in Egypt or something like that.
So from my understanding, and please, I'd love to hear
your thoughts on this. We're living right now. This is
where the needle is on the record at the moment
from this perspective, right and we are dealing with things
that happened quote unquote in the past, let's say our
Roman life that we do. We're dealing with problems, you know,
or the the when we were hung or we were
burned at the stake. We're still dealing with that kind
of trauma that we're working out in this life when
we work it out.
Speaker 2: By the way, just different names exactly different names of
the wars. It's still the war, but just changed the
names very much.
Speaker 1: So now it's all social media. But you don't get
hung on the square, you get hung on Twitter. So
so if we fix or deal with or overcome that
lesson in this life. Apparently it ripples to all your
lives in the past, and it ripples all to your
future lives. It starts to mess with your head, love,
to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Their goodbye, you got it, goodbye, goodbye. That's right. So
it's hard for us, like you said, to conceive. So
I like to use analogies a lot. So let's say
we're a diamond, and that each experience we have in
this let's say in this lifetime, cuts another facet of
the diamond. And let's have a different time of light,
different degree of light. So if we think that we're
a diamond of souls, a diamond and all the different
facets from every experience of lifetimes. So I totally agree
with you and that we want to experience more of
that aspect or that aspect or understand about caring or
compassion or forgiveness will take take on all these different
types of situations. And I do believe, and I know.
And a friend of mine made a comment. Friend of
mine is a visiting fourth of July, and he made
a comment. It was a strange comment because he was
not this way, but just dropped in his head and
he said, if we can live in the moment, there's
no other way things will work out. We just have
to live in a moment. It's very, very true because
in the moment you're aware of what's going right now.
The past has already happened, the future is yet to be. Now,
if you can this moment forgive someone for what they did,
that energy of forgiveness ripples all the way back, like
you said, and changes things in the past and the future.
You can change your past lives, you can change your
future lis by what you're doing at this particular moment.
The more you love that you show and demonstrate will
effect all those experiences in the past and all experiences
in the future. Don't ask me how, but it does happen.
It's energy, it's thought, it's you've reached a point where
you realize that love is the answer, and forgiveness is
a big one. You know, by forgiving others, you figure yourself,
figure yourself forgive others. It's living in that moment. But
I agree with you, what you do now effects past
in the future.
Speaker 1: So if this is the record needle, as I use
in my analogy on the record, are there multiple record
needles in different lifetimes or is this just the perspective
of this one and their other ones, And let's not
even get into parallel lives current parallel lives, or well
least a trippy one.
Speaker 2: So here's the trippy one. Another trippy one, and that
the soul. As I said before, seventy percent of the
souls outside the body. Thirty percent is over here. So
if we go to really understand the soul, we want
to go to seventy percent. Those different fields of levels, well,
every one of those fields is a different way of life. Right.
So you're existing right now in a past life, in
a future life right now, as you're simultaneously living this
moment right now, you're living those other lifetimes at the
same exact moment. And it seems that what you're doing
in this physicalness, if you will and see your dimension,
will affect those other lifetimes and vice versa too. By
the way, there's there's aspects of the higher life or
the different fields that that can bleed down. We heard
the higher self. If we bring down that energy of
the higher self into the awareness to the moment, it
can affect that moment. And that goes back into meditation
sitting in the silence being, the stillness of your being,
you will be influenced by the higher self. So that's
how it works. But again, the secret is to know thyself,
to thy own self be true, and that is really it.
Never con pare yourself to other people. Be who you are,
because you are who you are, because you meant to
be who you are.
Speaker 1: So one thing I've noticed about your work, James, and
this is unlike other quote unquote psychic mediums that I've spoken.
Speaker 2: Before, I don't like that psychic medium because it's no mediums.
It's redundant because every medium needs to be psychic. Everything
enough that psychic gets your money back because hello, every medium,
so psychic is a perception, right, So psychic we perceive,
and everybody is psychic one degree or another, and a
medium receives. So not every psychic is a medium, but
every medium is psychic. So that's very very okay, Okay,
you know that difference there, And so psychic medium to me,
is it just redundant. So spiritual medium to be really
more accurate, I'd say really so, So spiritual medium.
Speaker 1: One thing I've I've learned about better its spiritually it
sounds better it's better branded, but you're but your work
as a spiritual medium, you really seem to connect a
lot of ancient ideas and teachings in the work that
you do in a way that I don't see very
often because a lot of times it's all about give
me the lottery tickets or am I going to meet
my or am I going to meet my dark stranger?
Or is this ey that I just did gonna blow
me up? For these kind of ideas where your work,
I know that must be extremely important for you. That's
why it is.
Speaker 2: It will say can you give me the numbers a lottery?
And I was like, you think I'd be talking to
you right now, but the numbers a lottery?
Speaker 1: Certainly right now.
Speaker 2: But it's again how you use it. I'm very much
as I said from the very beginning in development of
my work that I have to be open minded, and
I believe that I'm a sage from way back or
that those lifetime sage with some philosophy. I know that,
and I always bring that forward to however I can.
I wish I bring more forward, But also you know,
I think it's really important and al to do a
great job at this and it's it's representing information to
the general public that you can and I do this
with my books that when I write my books, and
I don't mean to sound detrimental here or down, but
it's you have to feed them. You have to. You
have to spoon feed the public. So these complexities, these
these these these insights into other dimensions and so are there.
But in wonder people to understand them, you got to
give them some of the understand that they can relate to.
So I think when you have to, and I hate
to say the term, you have to kind of dumb
it down, but you have to. Of course, you got
dumb it down.
Speaker 1: I understand what you think.
Speaker 2: It's important that we bring these big concepts down to
the fineness, which is love, love or fear is basically it.
Then you can get into Once people can understand that,
they go into a little bit more about how you
treat people, the golden rule, a sense of who you are.
Then we go a little bit further and we seeding.
We're seeding them. You know, I have a lot of
people saying, mean, god it, this is amazing. Wish I
could tell my husband the work that you did, that
you brought that through and I got to tell him.
I can wait to tell him. I said, listen, he
might not get it. Don't don't be so caught up
in him getting it. Just plant the seed. When he's ready,
he will get it. It's just you can't control. Just
plant the seeds. It's all we can do. That's what
you're doing. And I'm doing. We're planning the seeds. And
I don't know. I think it's just again, it's it's
having a sense of awareness. It's not just like I
said earlier, like the circus of the fun act or
whatever that jumped to the hoop or whatever. It's not that.
It's who we are as spiritual where souls having a
human experience, not the other way around, and as a
soul being representing that those lives. I think, you know,
the Bible says my father has a house with many mansions,
and I do believe there are many, many levels and
spectrums and spheres and worlds within worlds within worlds, and
that one element that brings all those worlds together is love.
Love is the only energy that goes through all of
those dimensions, all those time spans.
Speaker 1: Is love. Love is the answer.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly why it is is yeah, and we
got no responsible for that.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show without question. And that's
one of the reasons what I think that movies and
television and media in general has such a responsibility in
that aspect, because there are certain movies that I can
say simulation theory to you and they'll be like what,
I go, it's the Matrix and they'll go, oh, the
concepts there. Yeah, there's kung Fu, and there's other aspects
that they they kind of did. But the concept of philosophy,
the idea of multiple or the multiverse that Marvel is
now bringing out, and that concept, yeah, it's superheroes fighting
in the multiverse. It's okay because.
Speaker 2: The idea is great way of entertainment. Just like a
ghost whisper, we opened up with fear, like people are
afraid of these ghosts, but yet at the end it's
all about love and healing. Same with the Marvel comics.
Now they're bringing their edge and even the producers they're
doing probably have no idea what they're doing. They're just
being used by spiritual beings right to bring this teachings
out and people will open people up on those levels.
It'll open them up. They might have to get through
entertainment or a strange way. But I'm going to say
something else with you talking to you about something else
to which I think is really it's bothered me over
the years, and I think you get it too, because
it goes back to that responsibility that once you put
out in the masses, whether it's through television or social media,
whether it's the movies, you have responsibility because it's all energy.
So if you've got to put a movie about killing
and fear that stays in the ethers, that energy is there,
and it stays there. It doesn't just dissiplate you're putting
out that. You use that creative force and making it
negative or violate whatever that's going to feed people. I
really do believe that. So you want to wa you
have gun violence, you wonder buy people are negative because
we're feeding it. We're feeding that. And I just get
a sense and this is such a responsibility with what
you put out to the public, whether it's through social media,
whether it's through movie is a television, there's a responsibility
about it. And people got to understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, without I agree with you one hundred and ten percent.
I the fear that gets pumped out by the media,
because when you're in fear, you buy more and all
that kind of stuff. I get that, and there's I
think people are starting to wake up to it. The
numbers of this show are starting to say that because
there's we talk about millions so far and hopefully tens
of millions, hundreds of millions, maybe billions one day of
people who were to try to get this kind of
information out there in this big way. It is changing,
and I think people are starting to figure things out
on a very instinctual soul level. They're just like, that
doesn't make sense for me. I don't want that anymore.
But you could already start seeing the crumblings of the
old system where the networks, the news or they're just
not getting the numbers anymore that they used to. Where
there's YouTubers who are getting one hundred million views on
an episode. Can you imagine that in network television or
even as streamers you start people are starting to figure
things out, and I think it's where everything is going
to go. I have to ask you question.
Speaker 2: Along with that is the responsibility that they have with
that they have a big responsibility. That's about how many
people you can get on your page. It's the end
thing why you're putting out there. Yeah, absolutely what you're
putting out there. So let's talk a little bit, James,
about the future of where we're all going. Now, this
is one aspect of things, and I know you know,
I've had other people come on the show and talk
about what they see for humanity, where we are all going.
We are going through this big shift human shift. The
first question I want to ask you is what part
do you believe the work of mediums, of channels, of
the spiritual ideas that we're talking about in this episod
What effect is that going to have? And what is
the future of those.
Speaker 1: Things are channel is going to be the next and
medium is going to be the next kind of like
people will be respected and feel like doctors and lawyers are. Now,
where do you see all of this going?
Speaker 2: I would hope some of the quality is always a question, right,
But that's.
Speaker 1: Also with doctors and lawyers are That's also with doctors
and lawyers.
Speaker 2: Too, my friend, Yes, you have every single that's exactly right,
you know, from my point of view, to me, the world.
Most of the world are sleep Most people are asleep,
they're a sleepwalking like. Only three percent are conscious. Only
three percent of the world is awake three percent. That's
a very small amount, three percent of the entire world.
I mean ninety seven percent of sleeping. They're sleepwalkers. So
we have to awake them up. And shows like yours
and shows like mine and schools like mine do that.
They touch on a certain nerve, a certain sense, a
certain sole part of that soul, they'll open them up.
And I think that's going to happen. I think more
and more when there are shows like yours and more
spiritual work out there that's not threatening to people, that's
really assuring people. And if mediumship has done the right way,
you know, an inequality and a responsible way. I think
people tend to see a connection, a connection that while
this is real and that there's more to life than
just this physical world. I think that's the number one thing.
The first thing is to realize there is no there's
no death, and that's my work from day one, is
to teach people they're too greate.
Speaker 1: A solution. We have this physical world.
Speaker 2: Number one separatetiveness, No one's separate we're together, but we
want to be. It's the world teaches the separat of
the solution. The second thing is death. There is no
such thing as death. You can't die for the best
to you. You just can't die or energy. You don't die.
You just slough off the physical, which is painless and
many respects. Leaning up to it. Might be hard with
the disease, but there are medications for that to get
you out. And I totally you know, the spirit people
have inspired those scientists to come up to invent that
those medications. They have been first in the spirit world
and they're slowly brought down to the physical world. So
I think it's a matter of number one, educating the
public that there's more to this than just this physical
world and that people and I think mediumship is doing that.
I think shows like yours are doing that that help
people to realize there so much more. Number Two, I
think that become connected with their power, with themselves, learn
who they are and go back in and not pay
attention to what people say about them on the social media.
And I get so caught up in that. But people
are saying and doing you know, Kim Kardassian, who I
did read from many years ago before she was King Brdascian.
There's a responsibility she has and she had and I
you know, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna blame people,
but you know, when you're out in the media that way,
there's a responsibility and you got to be careful because
it'll it'll back, it'll bite you, it'll bite you if
you're not careful. And I just hope that people do
things more of the conscious way how they're affecting other people.
I think it's a slow, slowly moving but in some
ways it isn't because I started in the eighties and listen,
when I was doing I was the only one out
there doing this, and.
Speaker 1: Now now it's very very popular.
Speaker 2: I was using a funny thing. It's like, well, remember.
Speaker 1: When herb tea started, O the herb tea?
Speaker 2: You drink herb tea.
Speaker 1: That's so weird herb tea.
Speaker 2: And now we're like just now right, So that's what
And that was relatively quickly. So that's only in thirty years,
the herb tea thing. That's pretty fast when you think
about it. So I do have hope that things will
be changing, and I think much quicker Alex. I think
once people get it there, oh and they catch up,
they catch up. My feeling is they catch up and
they start moving. So I would think by the next
like twenty twenty five, hopefully there'll be another sense of
that a so awareness and self knowledge. I think in
some ways, wars negative things, and people have had enough
of it, whether it's the COVID or the wars, or
people are tired of that. They want something else, want
something new. So in a way it forces them to
look within themselves and to question, see what's what's what
else is there?
Speaker 1: What else is there?
Speaker 2: Conspience to make me feel better? So I think it's
going to force us to have a sense of who
we are, get back to our soul self and go
back inside, not outside. I'm here to validate yourself, but
inside ourselves. And I think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Now do you do you believe that we are heading
in a direction that as a as a species, as
a human consciousness, are we heading in a positive or
what is this? At better question? What does the spirit
world have to say about where we're heading?
Speaker 2: As it's it's funny because they don't judge, it's there's
no judgment, So we can't say positive or negative. It's
just it is what it is, because that's right, that soul,
that is.
Speaker 1: Just an experience.
Speaker 2: There's really just experiences as experiences of loving oneself, of
loving another, and that's really what it's about, loving oneself
and loving other and not judgment. Judgment again is fear based.
Like I said earlier, it's very interesting because you know,
we have the hoth the trans thing now, and you
have one thing I'm not so comfortable still with is
a pronoun thing. Because I'm an author of the best
selling author, I had a lot of trouble with the
grammar thing, so I get that. So I don't want
to judge that. But I want to say everybody is God,
no matter who they are, and the diversification is what
makes God. God has all these different sparkles, all of
the lights in all different ways, so we can't judge
another's experience. I think if everybody just didn't hurt anyone else,
it'll be fine. They be who you are, do what
you want to do, as long as you don't hurt people.
That's the key right there, and I think that more
and more that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I think more and more.
Speaker 2: I just think we're at a point now extremism with
religion and politics and trying to control those people's rights
because this country is based on a freedom of rights,
and that's that's waning, and it's because but I don't
think that's going to stay. I think people are going
to be fed up with that. You know, we're O V.
Wade the whole thing. You know, it's so amazing to
me that the you know, people fighting abortion, abortion, but
yet it's okay to killing eight year old with the
seming automatic gun. What about that? It doesn't work, It
doesn't work.
Speaker 1: You can't have it all, I mean one of the
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Speaker 2: So I think that's it's forcing people to change, to
look at things a different way. I think it also
back to self, learning about self and just really loving
appreciating self and each other. That we're all connected, we're
not separate.
Speaker 1: We're one.
Speaker 2: We are one. I'm the present nurturing energy. We're one.
Speaker 1: Do you see the new generations being born now completely
differently than the energations that your generation or my generation is.
I mean they come here, your dad, Come on, Yeah,
these dark kids are everywhere. Come on, star seeds are everywhere.
I mean, I mean, it's amazingly.
Speaker 2: Different, amazing you know what. So you just talk about
there on the spectrum, Well, they're way beyond us. So
advanced species coming in totally. And I thought about this
morning actually a friend of mine, because she told me
one of our people in our life kids, what are
the spectrums like, Well, they're the ones that are teaching
us there. It's such an advanced age. And I say, personally,
I can't relate to technology. I'm not a technical.
Speaker 1: Person, more creative.
Speaker 2: So every password I put in every day I have
under that freaking password. But it's like, it's these beings
are coming in now that can handle all that technology,
waves of these souls, waves of these technical souls that
know all that, and that I know that there's this
place and time and space and time and in physical vibration.
These beings, these what do you call them?
Speaker 1: Evolved?
Speaker 2: They don't like to judge, right, but these beings from
other species, other star systems are coming in, no doubt
about it, and changing things up and working with the
technologies and being aware of that. No doubt about it.
So we're evolving. If you will, I believe that's would
be true. So we do know it as a free will.
Speaker 1: That's very true. And I just love to hear yourinion
on ascended masters. I mean in your work, have you
have you come across.
Speaker 2: Any I'm looking at one right now, Well, please elaborate
like this. Hello.
Speaker 1: Well it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting concept because people, many people, and I
understand they say, what's my guide's name? It's like, what's
your guide?
Speaker 1: Bruce Bruce?
Speaker 2: His name is Bruce Bruce, Bruce. It's putting such a
human trait to something, that human trade to it. So
it's it's putting that limitation on that. And and so
you know, there are many levels and species and levels
of being. So we talked about ascended masters or ange
angelic beings or different levels of awareness. It's just evolvement.
And I think they're those those beings who I think
there are many ascended masters. I think there are many species.
I mean I remember, as first developing my abilities in
sitting in development circle, I used to these beings becomes
me and we would call them aliens because you call
them aliens, and they're the most evolve beings. I'd have
been around. And I remember I was in Sedona, Arizona
once and I brought a group out there to see
UFOs because that was the place of the UFOs. And
we got out there, and I remember it was ten
o'clock on a Saturday night, and the man who was
helping me run this said, well, nothing's going and said
we got to hopefully see these people are here. And
I heard of words in my head say you need
to meditate, you need to raise your vibration. So we
don't meditate to raise a vibration. And then I walked
out to the middle of the field and all these
lights were around. It was the TV tower. Lights looked
like and these are UFOs. We call you fhoes. And
I remember hearing very very clearly, not only hearing, but
feeling that this energy had to really slowed themselves down,
really lower themselves down. It's like this, like a seven
forty seven in the eye of a needle. They didn't
really slow themselves down. And I heard them say, we're
from the Platees and we do not understand one thing.
Your human beings have the energy of love all around you,
yet you don't use it. Why is that? Oh shit,
and that makes sense. It's all around us. Why can't
we use love? So that's that's what it is, sending masters.
You know, I don't put names or labels on it,
but beings who are evolved beings who just are those
evolved beings that have been through ups and downs, all
arounds and teachings and philosophy and beyond our awareness if
you will. But I think they just I think our
higher selves are connected with those And the more we
can bring in the energy from a higher self, that awareness,
then that's the right thing.
Speaker 1: Where were light beings?
Speaker 2: We have to be illumined, naughty, We have to be
that illuminus, the illuminus. So we got to be the
ones show people the light, the light. The darkness opens
up to light, and we got to bring that light out.
Speaker 1: Now, James, I could talk to you for another four
or five hours, but I'm going to ask you a
few questions to ask all of my guests.
Speaker 2: What is your definition of living a fulfilled life? If
I can look back at my life at the end
of my life, when I look back at the life
and I see the earth is a better place than
it was when I first got here. That's the ulfilled life.
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time
and talk to little James, what advice would you give him?
Speaker 2: I'd probably go back and say, believe in yourself even more.
How do you define God, everything and everyone?
Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 1: Beautiful? And where can people find out more about you
and the amazing work you're doing for the world.
Speaker 2: I have took places. I have a school online it's
called the JVP School Mystical Arts dot com. And then
I have a website with my last name van Prague
dot com. V A N P r A A g
h dot com. That's how I remember who it is
my last name. And then of course my book Talking
to Heaven, and I've written fourteen different books, but that's
on Amazon. But yeah, that's the best way we can
have our community together.
Speaker 1: And do you have any parting messages or does the
spirit world have any parting messages for the audience? You know,
use love and.
Speaker 2: Everything you do. See you know, I remember that every
day on your path you have a teacher or a student,
and be accordingly and treat others as you want to
be treated. And that's all I can say James, it
has been a pleasure speaking to you.
Speaker 1: We have to have you back. You are a joy.
Speaker 2: I'd love to come back. You're great to speak with you. Really,
it's rare that it gets someone whose intelligence and aware
of this level that we can, you know, understand these things.
It's nice conversation, you know, so thank you appreciate it.
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