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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to

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welcome to the show, James on PROG.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, James, Very good, Alex, thank you for

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having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. My friend,

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I'm excited to talk to You've been in this spiritual

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game for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Now, about forty give it take a year, give it

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take a year or two.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's yeah. So you were doing this work when

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it wasn't truly in vogue, if you know.

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Speaker 2: I was the first medium on television. I was out

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there and I didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I moved to LA to a sitcom writer because I'm funny,

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so I thought I made money as a broadcasting sitcom writer,

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which I've done a couple by the way. But it

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was there that I went through a series of jobs

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in LA, temporary jobs, ended up with the William Morris Agency.

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I'm not in the mailor but in the basement playing

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staples out of contracts eight hours a day, and I

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was there and I knew how to be there. For

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some reason, I thought there's something going on here. Maybe

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I'll meet an agent, I'll get me a sitcom whatever.

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And it was there that I had a supervisor who said,

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you want to go see a medium? And I said,

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what is that? And she said, he's someone talks to

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dead people. Now, I just moved to LA from New

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York side the cynical New Yorker and I heard California

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Land the fruit Nuts. I'm like, okay, here we go

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in California. So I humored this lady and I went

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to see this gentleman by the name of Brian Hurst.

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And I walked into his apartment in Manhattan Beach and

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he said you're a medium, and I said, well, thank you.

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It's small, but thank you. And now the spirit world

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they want to use you as just change the consciousness.

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In two years time they go do that, and I'm

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like thinking, okay, this is crazy. But he went on

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to open give me a message from loved ones who

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passed over tailed messages, really incredible stuff. And I was

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fast and how did this guy do this? So I

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went to a place in La called the Body Tree,

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which was probably very familiar with the Body three and

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on Melbose and I used to go every weekend and

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sit and read as much as I could, and all

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of them subjects from near to experiences to Himalayan tests

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to everything you mentioned. I at your casey everything and

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I started meditating, not knowing how to, but I just

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just relaxed myself and visualized rose or whatever, and I

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became very very sensitized. I went to my series of jobs,

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and I remember it was I was working at Paramount

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Studios and it was I was a contract administrator. So

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I moved with a way more s agency to Paramount

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the contracts for syndication shows. And I remember was twelve

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thirty of the afternoon. I just came back from lunch

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and I went to my cubicle and this girl next

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to me, her name is Joe Dallas, and she walked

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into her cubicle and I looked over and I saw

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a dead lady standing next to Joe Dallas. And this

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dead lady looked at me like staring at me like

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six cents lines like, and she said telepathically, I am

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her grandmother. I lived in Idaho, a white house, a

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yellow shutters. We did a footstool together and other things.

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I'm like what, So I asked this girl, does this

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make sense every detail? And she said, oh yeah, that's

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my grandmama. We made a pack that when she goes,

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she'd come back and tell me she was okay. So

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I freaked out, ran out of Paramount. Now what was

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happening with me? Went to my apartment, not knowing what

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was going to go on, and I didn't know who

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to call because it sounded like it was crazy, and

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who did you go to? So I called up that man,

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Brian Hurst, the medium, and I told him what was

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going on. And he said, James, don't you remember the

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prediction the spirit world made? And I said yes. He said, James,

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I was two years ago today, so everything is in

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divine order, you see. And he took me under his

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wing and really helped me develop my mediumship and my sensitivity.

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I can contact with my guides, and it was really

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me deciding with them. I said, if you work with us,

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we'll always take care of you. Matter of faith that

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was been tested obviously, and I knew that the loving

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energy that I felt when I worked that way, in

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a mediumistic way, that there was nothing that could ever

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be better than that this love. So I said, yes,

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I'd do it. And from that point on, I started

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doing a message readings with seven years in development, but

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they started doing readings for people and it was old

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word of mouth, and I'd be two readings a day,

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and it went on for I was booked for two

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years at a time and so forth, and then eventually

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as producers come to my house and get a reading

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in my apartment. And then I was on Solved Mysteries,

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and then I was on a show called The Other

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Side NBC in the early nineties, and that was the

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first time a medium has been on. I was in

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their pilot program and the pilot and crazy and we

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run for about a year, and that was really my

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stepping off point, and then it was on. I wrote

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a book called Talking to Heaven based on my work.

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I'm giving the shorter version of this whole thing, and

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I went on Larry King and the book was it

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was funny, it was very, very funny. The scure world

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said to me, it's going to be a book that'll

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change the world, and like, okay, so I'm open to it.

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So I went to Larry King show and the book

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had six thousand copies initial printing. I went on that

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show December seventh, nineteen ninety six, I think it was

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ninety seven, and the book went from six thousand, six

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hundred thousand less than a month, and the CNN bureaus

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around the world did not stop ringing telephones and springing

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un till it started Friday at six o'clock, didn't end

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till Sunday three three pm around the world, and they

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were constant bombarded.

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Speaker 2: Of publishing in those days, and that got that opened

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up the door for a lot of different things to happen.

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Speaker 1: So so when thank you for that, very ancise, it

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was a strip history life history that you had there

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when you when you were you weren't raised you raised religious, spiritual?

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How were you raised?

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Speaker 2: I was very Catholic. My mother was a very Irish

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Catholic and my father was Presbyterian. He didn't really care

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about either one, and so I went to a Catholic

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school for eight years, and then he went to a

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seminary to be a priest for a year, don't ask,

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the I guess you'd say, the incense, and the pageant,

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the ceremonial, right, that part of it. I love that.

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I love the prayer part. But I didn't understand certain

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things like eating the body, drinking the blood of Christ

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because for an eight year old, you know, what does

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that mean to the cannibals. So it didn't fit for me.

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that I liked that filled me up. So I would

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say to you that I you know, people often asked

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me about religions, and I said, well, there are certain

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things to religions will teach us. And with everything in life,

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you take what works for you, what resonates to your soul,

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and you throw back the rest. And for me, that

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was that sense of service of human kind that really

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set there. That service have been kind and making, you know,

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being that good to people living the Golden rule, and

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that really helped with that foundation.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, so when you started to I mean because

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I was raised also Roman Catholic, and I'm still you

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and I are both recovering. I'm assuming recovery Roman Catholics.

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of mediumship. Now I'm Latino, from where I'm from.

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Speaker 2: This idea of passion.

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Speaker 1: So this concept of medium ships and psychics, it's culturally

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kind of baked in to the Latino culture, South American culture,

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Caribbean culture, absolutely, but from your Irish Catholic not so

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much so. When this was presented to you and you

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started hearing ideas or voices and not, you thought you

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were going, how did you reconcile the religious, the Roman

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Catholic in you with this new version of what's happening

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to you?

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Speaker 2: In this great question? And I have to go back

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to my childhood. Because of my childhood, I used to

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see spirit all the time. I used to all the

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time when I was really a toddler in the crib.

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I remember, I remember very well. They put me in

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the back room in the crib, and I wanted to

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cried my eyes out, and I remember my father used

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to come back to me a big lollipop thing, and

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that's going to do it. But every night I'd see

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this man with white hair in the corner the room,

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walk over to the crib, and he had some kind

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of toy he'd play with me. And years later, my

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grandmother was showing me a photograph album and she turned

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a page and I said, who's that man? She said, Oh,

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that's your grandfather. He died before you were born, and

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that was that man, and he's come several times since that.

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of the street, you know, stickball or whatever it was,

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and I'd see a spirit around them. I'd see there

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are other colors around them, and I thought every kid

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could do that, thought everybody could do this. This wasn't

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anything weird or unique.

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Speaker 1: It was just every way it was.

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Speaker 2: And when they started saying, oh, you're a weird I'm like,

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I'm not a weirdo. Just I see those things. And

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and I would once happened, I saw these beings at

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the end of the bed, but these lights around them,

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and I'd say, Mom, who are those people with the

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lights on? And was oh, them, those are God's angels.

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little girl. They'll always take care of you. Not to harm,

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Speaker 2: She was very in tuned my grandparents, both sides who

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were in tune. From the Welsh background and the Irish background.

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pass in families. So to me it was I don't know,

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it didn't feel separate from the religion, was a way

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of thinking. I guess for some people to belong, I've

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never gotten into it, but I knew what was natural

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for me, and I've always lived my life that it

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was natural. And one thing, Alex, which I'm gonna share

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with you and for all of your people watching or

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listening to this, one of the biggest things I've knew

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from the very beginning is I knew who I was.

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then they stay pretty grounded and they go forth. And

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I never care whether people thought of me, because they

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what other people think of you as none your business,

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because nobody gets to know you better than know yourself.

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have to know who we are, and I think are religions.

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our soul than maybe that religion does it. And all

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religion does to me is it reminds us who we are. Yeah,

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they can help assist us.

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Speaker 1: In that reminding.

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Speaker 2: But it's a mediumship to me. I guess for my love,

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my development, my sole development expansion. It's very natural, and

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I know I prepared, as I think we all do,

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prepare for our life, our role in this lifetime. And

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are not. In quantum physics, and I believe in past life,

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future lives, all lives at one. I know that I've

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definitely prepared for this lifetime to communicate with the spirit

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world and to change the consciousness of the planet. I

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never have thought that before, but I see it's happening,

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and things are very very different now than they were

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when I first started. Of course, now we're much more

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accepting of other ways of thinking, alternative ways of being

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and so forth.

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Speaker 1: Well, this conversation wouldn't have happened in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. I remember there were people that

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used to that, skeptics who used to go to the

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studio and watch me do a work, my demonstration work,

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and they would say, oh, we did cold reading, and

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I was like, what is that. Don't you know what

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that means? Oh, you know things for you you ask

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certain questions and they give you answers, and all this

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stuff is coming at I mean, like, that doesn't work

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for me. That's not what I'm doing. That's not And

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I thought, oh, these people are ignorant. They're not aware

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of how I do this, and they're making these things

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up like that's bad, you can't do that. So they

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didn't understand it. And I think in most of the

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world is ignorance. So if people don't understand something, they

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put it down. I think fear, you know, unfortunately live

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in fear, and fear is limiting. Of course. I think

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fear is a human emotion, not spiritual. I think it's

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very human. And I think when people don't understand something,

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they judge it because they fear it, they live in fear.

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they want to be in control if you will, So

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if I put you down with that and the fearful

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and make you worse, then judge you. Then I feel

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better then. And it's just fear based basically.

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Speaker 1: Well, and at any time there's something that kind of

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shakes the foundation of your belief system, you either if

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you're insecure about that, you will then fight back. If

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you're secure, you could. You can tell me that the

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sky is purple, and I would be like, this's fine

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for you, but that's not my truth. I don't have

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to I don't have to go on and queue. You'm like, no,

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the sky is blue, and we start a tribe about

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the sky's blue people, and we're going to go kill everybody, everybody,

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make sure everybody knows that the sky is blue. That's

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where it comes. But it comes from a level of insecurity,

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because if you are secure with your belief system, you

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don't have to attack or defend it. Just is am

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I right? What do you think? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And it's also a control issue. So

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many people think I've got to be in control. I've

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got to control my environment. I control what happens in

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my life. The truth is we have no control. You

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can't control another person, you can't control what someone says,

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the only thing we can control is how we respond

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to things. But when people freak out, oh my god,

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this is outside of my paradigm what I've been going

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to do. Well, it's a paradigm shift. And you know

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that's really important that people realize they have no control.

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and what other people think of you as none your business,

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you shift, you open up, and you expand. No.

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Speaker 1: Now, you have done probably tens of thousands of readings

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over the course of your of your career, and this

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at all those times, you must have had an inside

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view of the human psyche in a way that most

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human beings don't get in a lifetime. Is that a

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fair statement?

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Speaker 2: To a point? To a point, I mean, there's so

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you know, it's worlds within worlds within worlds. Really think

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about it, just such a vastness and expansion. So I

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definitely have had a look at certain aspects of the

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human and how they play, and the soul self and

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the different dimensions of the soul and different sense of awareness,

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if you will. And I'm very down to earth, I'm

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pretty grounded. I'm double Earth's sign Capricorn and virgo. I'm

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pretty down to earth about things, which I think is

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very helpful in this regard. So to me, I like

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to say that, yeah, I've been a witness of all

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these different types of experiences, and to me it was

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back to the simple truth that we are souls having

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human experience, not the other way around. Where souls for time,

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this human This is our schools. There our soul's school

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and there are many many schools. This is one one

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of the most unevolved. I guess you could say, because

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we're still killing one another, we're still fighting, we still

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think money is power and so forth. So unfortunately not

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evolved because you know, when you kill one another person,

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you're killing yourself. We're all connected, of course, so we're

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not really evolved in that respect, you know, is a

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simple one which I like that life to me now

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as I've learned these things, the simple truth spirit says,

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it's always very simple.

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Speaker 1: It really is simple. Truth is very simple.

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Speaker 2: But the human being lives get caught up in the

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complexity of the simplicity. See say want things to be

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complex because it's complex. That means something not necessarily to me,

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it is really it's all about choices in life. So

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we are souls. We come back and choose if you

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will our family, our friends, our lessons we're going to

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learn this lifetime and the series of choices. Choices are

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based one of the two things, either love or fear,

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and that's really it. And fear fear false ego appearing

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real right is limiting where love is expansive and we're

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here to love. Our natural vibration is of love. The

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soul is of love, not fear fears of the human vibration.

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So it's very interesting to see if if people just

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go back in their lives and see what they chose

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that of fear, what people think of them, what my

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parents want me to do, what society wants me to

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do to be accept it? Or did you live in love?

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Just do you do? You?

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Speaker 1: You do? You do?

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Speaker 2: You want to do? And see and see the difference,

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and it's amazing. So it's a simple truth if you will.

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Speaker 1: So can you explain to people what the process is

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for you? Are you seeing? Are you hearing voices? Are

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you seeing people? Do you see dead people? Or is

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it like images in your mind? What is the actual

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process when you're doing a reading?

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Speaker 2: Sure a great question. So it's just a little bit

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of background here. Is that to me and it is

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my experience I've had that the soul is Many people

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think the soul is encompassing the physical body. Not really.

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I would say my equation might be all a little bit,

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but the idea behind it is right. That seventy percent

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of the souls outside the body, only thirty percent is here.

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You know, we are living on these fields. I call

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them mine fields outside here and in many, many levels,

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I call them these mine fields. And the mind is

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the soul. The soul is the mind, and this remnant,

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the smaller part here is like I call it the

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big toe to the soul. Because there's more of us

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outside here than in here. Right, So what I do

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in preparation of communication, and because the spirit world is

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all around us, you know, it's not up there heaven

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or Hell. It's all around us. It's all the different

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vistas and fields, if you will, around us. That vibrator

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move at a certain rate of speed. So we have

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all around us in types of waves, gamma rays, X rays, microwaves,

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television waves, all the different waves of energy. And I

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once said, this is Barbara Walters. I said, you know Barbera.

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She has me on the view, so, well, how does

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this work? How does this work? I said, so you're

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working in a field of television and you're not sure

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how it works. And he goes, well, right, when you

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think about its degree right vibe broadcast. And I said

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to her, you know how it works, Barbara, is your

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television is the station is setting at a signal. Right,

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It's sensed a certain thingnal certain vibration, and there are

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receptors and the televisions, the receivers that will receive that

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certain vibration and able to use take that vibration and

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manifest it in a visual right. There's a basic basic

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broadcasting there. And so the same thing works with mediumship

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in that I have to attune myself to a higher frequency,

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the higher vibration of energy. So it's all energy and

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the mind. What I do with my mind in many

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years development of this is I bring my mind to

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a certain space, an altered state of consciousness you could say,

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to a higher level of consciousness where it's a vibration

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very very quick, So mind is very very open. And

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what I do is because of spirit people when they

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won't communicate with us, they have to Everything is done

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with thought.

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Speaker 1: It's available in the thought world.

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Speaker 2: It's all thought.

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Speaker 1: We have the physical world.

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Speaker 2: They're in a mental world, so everything in that world

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moves with thought, and they have to think to themselves, Okay,

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I want to communicate, So I'm a slow self down

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to the level that the medium is able to receive me.

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So they consciously think, slow myself down. They lower themselves

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down to a certain level. The medium raises up their

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vibration and they meet in the middle. And that's why

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it's called medium in the middle. And what happens is

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and then I raised myself up that space. I've done

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it so many years now, Alex like a push a

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button and there is and and really they come in.

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This is an interesting, interesting one that all the spirits

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that come and communicate real You have to realize that

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they might not have never done this before. It might

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be the very first time they're doing this. So just

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because they're dead, it doesn't mean they know how to

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do this. It's a process. So many times when I

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do demonstrations that call them for audiences or people online,

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they'll be beings around me spirit people who have nothing

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to do with the people that are in this in

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the demonstration or on the zoom call. They're watching the

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process so that another time they might come through and

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do the process the right way. So they have to

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slow down their thoughts and create in their minds a picture.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after word from our sponsor and

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now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Which could be representative memory, could be a picture of

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that person they loved when doing something the day before,

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and they conceived of this this concept and sent it

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to the medium's mind, and the medium there's nothing about it,

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nothing about these people or anything. So I have to

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be open enough to say, I see a calendar it

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says February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five. I know, I

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feel that there's a lady here. I feel like it's

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a mother feeling and I'm feeling. Oh, and she shows me. Now,

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she's now showing me clairvoyantly. She get an image. She

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had brown hair and blue eye as a beautiful red smile,

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and she wears that yellow daisy dress. She loved the

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yellow daisy dress. And yes, that's my mother. That's exactly

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what she wore, and that's the day she died. And

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then so it depends on the spirit because everyone is

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communicates differently. They're just like in this human life. And

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some people more visual, some people more auditory. Some people's

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sense most of us sense things. We walk into a

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room or meet someone we sense, so that sense sense. First,

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there's a medium, I get the sense of them. They

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push into my mind the sense of what they want

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to say, and my guide to work with me and

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their guides will help them to prepare or go through,

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if you will, the correct way of sending a thought,

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of creating an emotion, state of bringing that to the

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medium's mind that I'm able to understand it. Another interesting

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fact is that the mind of the medium is very

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very important, so as the makeup of the medium as

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a makeup for myself. My personality depends a lot, but

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it affects a lot. I'm a person as you can

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tell a good sense of humor. I like to joke.

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I'm very down to earth, I'm very real, but I

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love not thinking over seriously, just lighter. And so the

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best spirits I have communicate will be those who are

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relying to my personality traits. So I bring through great

477
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,640
of sense of humors, like a good time, who are

478
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very serious, who are very kind. So that works in

479
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,039
a lignment with and my personality traits and my aspects,

480
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my sole aspects, and it makes it reading very successful.

481
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,680
That doesn't mean I can't bring other spirits who I do,

482
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like we usually bring other people through, but the easier

483
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,559
ones are ones that are aligned to my personality traits.

484
00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:07,480
I'm throwing a lot at yourself.

485
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Speaker 1: No, that's I completely get everything you're saying. So is

486
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,079
there an energy issue with you? So, like, do you

487
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,160
get a wave of because channelers have that, channels get

488
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,519
like this wave of energy. A lot of times I've

489
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,000
heard that they've had to kind of on the other

490
00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:28,720
side and here prep their nervous system to handle this flow.

491
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,200
How does it worked with you and mediums?

492
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Speaker 2: Yes, very very good. So sitting in what I called

493
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development and sitting in the stillness of your being, which

494
00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:40,359
is really really important developing mediums. And I have a

495
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school online it's and it's been dedicated to that, and

496
00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:47,400
it's really about preparation, as you say, So preparing the space.

497
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To me, working with the spirit world is here.

498
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: Go back to the religion.

499
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Speaker 2: Now. To me, it's very sacred. So it's like going

500
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to mass. It's like you're setting up the sacred space,

501
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,440
and to me it's you're a representative as a medium.

502
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I'm a representative of the spirit world. And to me

503
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,599
it's an interesting one. I work for them. I don't

504
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:05,240
work for the living. I really work for them. They're

505
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,720
my boss, and that my job is to bring through

506
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:11,240
information that will help the spirit person come through and

507
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:13,960
to move on. So this is an interesting one. Just

508
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,640
because someone passes away doesn't mean they go right to heaven.

509
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,839
They go here. They go there many times because they

510
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:21,559
pass over into the mental world. Right, it's a mental work.

511
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
What we all have once we pass over is a

512
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:27,759
life review, and we're outside of time. So you're not

513
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,160
with the clock. You don't line your time anymore. So

514
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,480
what happens is you tend to see all those moments

515
00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:37,680
in the lifetime that you lived, that you had impressed others,

516
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or what you said to someone. So the example I

517
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,359
like to use is, let's say you're in a really

518
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,519
bad mood one day and you went to the gasoline

519
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,599
station and you yelled at the person the clerk behind

520
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,720
the cash register, and that person yelled as a storekeeper

521
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:52,880
a partner in the store, and the person of the

522
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store went help and yelled their family and blah blah

523
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,640
blah mos on on rippling effect when you have the past,

524
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,480
like when you have that life review, you're going to

525
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:02,079
become that person behind the cash register, and you're going

526
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,079
to feel everything they felt when you yelled at them

527
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,400
ten times, twenty times, thirty times stronger than originally sent.

528
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,839
And you'll become aware of how your thought, your word

529
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,680
affect that person and that person and that person, and

530
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,400
you'll see the rippling effect of your one thought in

531
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,240
your one word. That's kind of scary, right, especially living

532
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,039
a life where you hurt people, You imagine that's your

533
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,160
own hell. So you create your own heaven, your own hell,

534
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,799
based on your thoughts, words, and deeds. So my job

535
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720
is really as a medium is to bring through let's

536
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,279
say that spirit who has unfinished business, who's ever to

537
00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:33,359
come back and say I'm sorry, might to his daughter,

538
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:35,319
I'm sorry, I didn't love you. I didn't know how

539
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to love, so.

540
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Speaker 1: How could I loved you?

541
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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, So it's unfinished business. Basically, it's my

542
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,440
job is to bring through that, so to provide proof

543
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of life after death.

544
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Speaker 1: So but it isn't okay, I agree with that, But

545
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,359
doesn't that get caught up in karma, meaning like in

546
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,440
another life they deal with that or can they deal

547
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with or can they.

548
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Deal with it like this one hundred percent? So what's

549
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,000
going on is they kept to cut again. It's all learning,

550
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,599
it's learning, learning, learnlearning that what you give out you

551
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,759
get back, and that's karmac. So every action is a reaction, right,

552
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,599
So every act that someone does has a reaction, and

553
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,680
that's a natural law. So there's a natural law involved.

554
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,599
So yes, but if they can, if they can willingly

555
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,799
have the awareness to say I'm sorry to say this,

556
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,359
that will help. That certainly helps, because they're in that

557
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200
state of apathy, they're in a state of them that

558
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,240
they're they're in a healing state. They didn't know any better.

559
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,680
They're awakened, if you.

560
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Speaker 1: Will on the other side, on the other side.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, that's correct. And many who are awake

562
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200
over there, who wake up and realize what they've done,

563
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,960
they feel bad about it. There's a little bit of

564
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,680
you know, I'm gonna say, I don't go back to

565
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,480
our Catholic purgatory thing. But there's that waiting station because

566
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,240
they got to take care of themselves. They got to

567
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they've got to honor what they did and what they

568
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200
didn't do. And one of the most interesting things that

569
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the spirit people have said to me they've come through

570
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,440
is and I wrote a book called Unfinished Business because

571
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,519
they got tired of human spirits say this, and they

572
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,680
would say, Wow, if only I knew then what I

573
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,400
know now, I would have made choices. I wouldn't have

574
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,519
behaved that way. I would behave more loving, more compassionate,

575
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,440
more kindness. I would have her gay easier. I wish

576
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:09,319
I had known that in it. So I wrote that

577
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,119
book just for that, because if the world knew that,

578
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,119
you know, just imagine if everybody knew that when they

579
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,440
left the physical body, that have a life review and

580
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,000
have to feel everything ten times, twenty times, thirty times

581
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,640
stronger how I treated people. Wow, wouldn't the world be

582
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,160
different because it'd be a sense of responsibility. Yeah, And

583
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,119
I think that's a secret.

584
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,759
Speaker 1: I think that really is a secret.

585
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Speaker 2: In the teaching people, you have to be responsible with thoughts,

586
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,160
your words, and your deeds because they don't go unnotice

587
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,680
this energy you're putting out there.

588
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,319
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. Do you you believe

589
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,599
in the Soul Blueprint or soul I Plan Okay. So

590
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,079
with that concept, from my understanding of my research and

591
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,440
people I've spoken to on the show, you choose your

592
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,839
life and you choose the actions you're going to do

593
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,880
in that life. So a lot of times you're in

594
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,480
your soul family, which is your group, right, So let's

595
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,160
say you and I are in our soul family, and

596
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,599
in this time we're sitting we're sitting having coffee on

597
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,039
the other side, and we're both talking. We're like, look,

598
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,359
I'm going to go back down. You want to come

599
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,200
with me? Yeah? Sure, And like, you know, when in

600
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,119
this life, I really need to know what it feels

601
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,839
like to have someone who doesn't love me and because

602
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:18,880
and then I'll go you know what, I'll go down,

603
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,279
I'll take the bullet, and I'll be your dad, and

604
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:24,960
I won't show you any love. So on a soul level,

605
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,720
we have this kind of pre built plan. So then

606
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,039
when they come back and they're saying, oh, I wish

607
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:33,799
I would have known, it doesn't connect. Can you kind

608
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:36,079
of explain it? We're going we're really going into weeds here.

609
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,640
So I'm just curious what your thoughts on this.

610
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Speaker 2: So well, also, suicide some people, well not necessarily because

611
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,759
the soul group might have agreed upon that that in

612
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,200
that soul group, one of them I had to learn

613
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,319
with the experience of suicide it was and how the

614
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:50,640
rest of the people around them would handle that.

615
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: That happens quite a lot.

616
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Speaker 2: So a lot of the experiences we have here, whether

617
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:57,319
it's physical problems, mental problems, whatever, it is, interaction and

618
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,400
the biggest of course, teachers are our family. Hello, they're

619
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,799
number one teachers because they represent you. You're looking at yourself.

620
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,640
So there is that sense that we all have destiny points,

621
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,920
call destiny points there were to do certain things. But

622
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,559
then comes a part of free will, right, so it's

623
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:15,519
destined that we have this situation happen.

624
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,279
Speaker 1: Let's say we meet for coffee.

625
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,519
Speaker 2: On the earth and we can do many things that

626
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,880
we can be friends forever. It can just be equipped

627
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,559
meeting with a coffee, or we can decide to live together,

628
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,079
whatever it might be. But there's free will involved there.

629
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,960
So again, the more someone knows their soul self, the

630
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,599
more they know themselves that inner self, the easier it

631
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,480
is to make the right choice that's right for them

632
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,160
at the moment. That makes sense.

633
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,799
Speaker 1: It makes yeah, So the closer you are to your

634
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:43,799
true self because then you will be connected to that

635
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,119
true admission.

636
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: And it makes sense because it doesn't make rational sense.

637
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: At all, right, you becoming a medium, You know this

638
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:56,720
makes no sense when you make no sense.

639
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean I really jumped in because, like I have

640
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,519
no way of knowing how to get paid, had to

641
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,720
pay the rant, to have paid my insurance, okay, anything,

642
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,720
But I did it with faith because I knew that

643
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:06,599
they said to me, will take care of you. And

644
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,079
I never knew how it was gonna come about, but

645
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:09,720
it's come about, and they've taken care of me. For

646
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,880
forty five years. I've been taken care of. And I

647
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,240
think we're all taking care of when we do the

648
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,720
right thing and we take responsible for who we are,

649
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,119
and we see God in everyone, which is that brilliant light.

650
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400
We all have that same God, and if we just

651
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,319
treated each other we see God, we'd be better off.

652
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,359
I think that every day we're given opportunities. Every day

653
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160
in our path, you have either a teacher or a

654
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,119
student that walks in your path and to recognize that

655
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,799
what are you gonna learn or what are you gonna teach?

656
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,519
And that's what it is, you know, I really do

657
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,119
believe that and what you give out you get back.

658
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,799
It's that karma whatever you want to call that, that energy,

659
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:42,559
that natural law.

660
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: And James, I mean, I agree with you one hundred

661
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,920
percent because when I started the show, I was like,

662
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720
this is insane. Why am I starting a spiritual show.

663
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:53,039
I'm not a guru, I have no street credibility in

664
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,839
this space. But I was guided to do this, and

665
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,599
I jumped in with faith that it would all work

666
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
out and it wouldn't destroy what I had already built

667
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,279
because I was afraid because as you know, when you

668
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,599
when you come out and go public with this kind

669
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:09,200
of stuff and start talking, it's not the norm. Yet

670
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,680
it's more accepted and it's growing daily, but this is

671
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,480
still you know people, You and I are having a

672
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:20,359
fairly intelligent, grounded conversation about this, which is really helpful

673
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,079
for what we're trying to do in the world in

674
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,640
raising the consciousness. We'll be right back after a word

675
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676
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Speaker 2: But I also have I think that, as you said that,

677
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:39,200
I don't mind me getting a hit for you, but

678
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
I have to I think that when you say that

679
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,559
that the part of your soul self on the other

680
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240
side knew this and I had to do this, and

681
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:48,559
the physical is now is catching up on it, and

682
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:50,359
I think that it's meant to be obviously, and the

683
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,599
conscious like, you're here to change the consciousness. You're to

684
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000
open the minds of people up and more and more

685
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,319
people and whether we want to talk about you know,

686
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:59,519
the world the way it is right now, the darkness,

687
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,759
the fear, whatever it is out there and people don't

688
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,279
feel connected. It's worked like this, that being piled together

689
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:08,480
because there's a resonance the sense of truth. It opens up,

690
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,640
that stirs their souls that this is truth, and it

691
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,839
gives them a platform. It gives them a platform to

692
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,400
go to and is that well, I understand this. This

693
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,599
is more This makes more sense to me than other things.

694
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Speaker 1: Do you know? This is the truth?

695
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but this is

696
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,400
the truth right here, you know. And that's I think

697
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,039
a great thing to give people that opportunity to have

698
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,400
that sense of up to that faith and have When

699
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,720
I started my school, the JP School Mystical Arts, four

700
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,359
years ago, it was a school that I want to

701
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
leave a legacy for my work. And something happened out

702
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,400
of that which I'd never expected, And what happened was

703
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,680
they became a sense of community, a lot of community,

704
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,079
and people thank me over and over again for having

705
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,079
a space that people can go to are like minded people,

706
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,160
because there aren't many. So what you're doing, what I'm doing,

707
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,039
many others doing, are presenting that space for those who

708
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,599
think the same way, who can think out of the box,

709
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,079
who believe in faith whatever that means. You know, you

710
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,200
can't limit God. I think religion, going back to that

711
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,839
religious like, I feel in many ways religion limits God

712
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,079
and God is limit less. You know, he can't put

713
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,880
a name on God's limitless. And I think the more

714
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,720
pot that knew themselves and know God better.

715
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,799
Speaker 1: So this, this is always something that's fascinated to me

716
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,799
about mediums and psychics in general. Is we all saw

717
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,720
the movie Ghost, you know, back with Whoopy Goldberg.

718
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: I just standing ovation. I was working a paramount at

719
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200
the time, and it's standing ovation is screening of a paramount,

720
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000
And people were looking at me like they got it right.

721
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,039
Speaker 1: So, I mean, it was so perfect. And I've had

722
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,640
I've had Bruce the writer on the show, and he

723
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,000
explained to me he wrote.

724
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Researched, he did a great job.

725
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, he had a psychedelic experience talk that God

726
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:48,079
came back, wrote Jacob's Ladder. I mean, and you watch

727
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,759
those movies and you're just like, oh, okay, everything all makes sense.

728
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
So when he wrote Ghost, which nobody wanted, but eventually

729
00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:01,400
God made Whoopy Goldberg's character that she sees dead people constantly.

730
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,200
I always wonder do you have an on and off,

731
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,079
open and closed sign? Because if now you're like eating,

732
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:09,599
you know, you're in the bathroom, you look over, oh

733
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,039
Jesus not now like how does that work? Do you

734
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:17,799
have like barriers or just like hey guys, no or yes,

735
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:18,640
I'm open for pray.

736
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,079
Speaker 2: It's a great question, and it's an important question you're

737
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:25,000
asking because I am the I scream about this from

738
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,720
the Hit Mountaintops because and God bless mister Reuben for

739
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:31,839
doing that move because it really has opened people up,

740
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,680
so medium should in general. To me, I developed in

741
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,880
the old fashioned way, and I developed a seven years

742
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,559
sitting in the quiet, sitting in the stillness, and I

743
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,400
wouldn't do one reading because it had to work on

744
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,680
my energetic self, my soul self to really develop that

745
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,039
that progression of development in order to be able to

746
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:50,400
give a message to someone because it's very much like

747
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680
to me, like medical work, a doctor or a lawyer.

748
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,559
You know, people's lives that you're responsible for and that

749
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,759
can be taken easily. That's not a no joke. You've

750
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:59,920
got to be really a lot of integrity. And to me,

751
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,759
I've been very worked, very very hard throughout my well,

752
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,680
not hard word hard, but my integrity is really strong

753
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,800
in that I would not present something if it wasn't

754
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,239
the right way it was and if I didn't know

755
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,639
what somebody say, I don't know it, you know, just

756
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,960
because I don't know everything. So to me, I tried

757
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,400
to present the mediumship with my TV show, with the

758
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,639
Beyond show I had, and John Edward did a good

759
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,519
job at his show crossing Over, and it was presented

760
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,159
a certain way, which I like. But then what happens

761
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,039
is younger people that came into Mediumship want to be stars.

762
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:34,199
Speaker 1: They want to be fast and fewrus.

763
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,079
Speaker 2: They want to get it in and be in the

764
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,079
TV and be a star.

765
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,039
Speaker 1: It's like, it doesn't work that way.

766
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:38,519
Speaker 2: You don't.

767
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,199
Speaker 1: You don't go in the medium to be a star.

768
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen that way. And think of all those

769
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,519
people's lives that you're hurting by doing it the wrong way.

770
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,800
And when I say the wrong way, like, for instance,

771
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,000
there was a lady Miniatresa Caputo at the Long Island

772
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,239
Medium you remember that show longl Medium, And she was

773
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,599
a lady who nice lady. I met her once, very

774
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,360
gifted lady. But the producers who produced that show did

775
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,280
not know how to produce it correctly. They do not

776
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,440
know about mediumship. I was with the same thing with

777
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,519
the show Ghostfist Bros. Evolved and I had a lot

778
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,360
of tiople with the producers who didn't know at all

779
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,760
how to produce this sort of thing and the way

780
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,320
there's no sense of responsibility of what you're putting in

781
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920
the air waves. So they have Treescapuda out there in

782
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,199
a bake shop, in a butcher shop, in a car

783
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,000
and she says, dead people, oh my god, this person's

784
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,719
oh my god. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't

785
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480
work that way because that person would end up in

786
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:26,039
the nuthouse.

787
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:28,039
Speaker 1: Because that's why I ask, Yeah.

788
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,039
Speaker 2: And they're teaching that, They're throwing that to the public

789
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,719
thinking this is the way it is. No, it doesn't

790
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,239
work that way as a medium. As I said, before

791
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,920
you have. It's a sacred it's a sacred space. You

792
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239
have to prepare yourself and when you're ready to work

793
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,119
is that's if you will an on off switch. As

794
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:44,119
you said, you're able to open yourself up and you

795
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,000
say what what you get. It's not like pop, here

796
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:49,800
goes this one, pop goes a weasel, here's this way.

797
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Doesn't work that way. The media may be aware of

798
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,880
those people around, but certainly it's it's like a ceiling fan.

799
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,079
You can't have that ceiling fan on all the time

800
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,239
because you'll burn out the motor. Same thing with mediumship.

801
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,519
You gotta be very very careful. It's a delicate art

802
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,280
because you work with your dreamal system and the glandulist

803
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,639
system and that nervous system. Very yeah, it'll tax it

804
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960
very very easily. You'll be taxed out. And I've seen

805
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,400
many medium pass away with cancers and bad diseases and

806
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,840
endocrint problems because they're not they're not integrated the right way.

807
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,079
They're not measured. The work is not measured. It needs

808
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,119
to be measured. It needs to be a process. There's

809
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,599
another guy on TV, the young kid that's on right now.

810
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,800
I totally agread and again again we're throwing this stuff

811
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,840
out there. Now. He might have abillity, certainly has some cindability.

812
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,280
It's not worked out because he goes for a psychic

813
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,480
point of view and a median point of view, and

814
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,920
he doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know what's

815
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,880
psychic or what's medium. He doesn't know the difference between

816
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,239
the two. And they throw that out to the public.

817
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,760
Doesn't know any better, and it's like, that's that's going

818
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,559
to harm people, and it's gonna harm him because he's

819
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,679
a young boy. He's twenty four. He's had no life

820
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920
experience in order for the spirit world to draw from

821
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,760
in order to give a message out. And it's showing

822
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,159
public that this is the way it is. That's not

823
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:01,559
that's not the way it works.

824
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,199
Speaker 1: And that's me is a really tough one, you know. Yeah,

825
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,400
And in that show too, you could see where he

826
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,039
wears out. You could actually, I've seen something of this episode.

827
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,800
You start seeings like I can't I need this. He's

828
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960
having problems with it because he hasn't properly been trained.

829
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: And if you had a run, it's called running your energy.

830
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,039
He doesn't know how to run his energy. Properly, because

831
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:20,840
it took about the chakra points, which about opening up.

832
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,239
We're all electual beings and if you don't charge it

833
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,800
the right way, you're going to be depleted quickly. And

834
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,880
I'm telling you as it is. And you have all

835
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,519
the pressure from television and producers and all that kind

836
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:32,000
of stuff.

837
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Who finished in the work at all?

838
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Listen. I did a show called The Beyond. Show was

839
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,000
for a whole year and it was like a kind

840
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,159
of a talk show. I go on, I do it

841
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,760
readings for the audience and the private reading on the stage.

842
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,800
I remember the people that produced that with me. That's

843
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,760
when they carry seig and her name was and I

844
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,599
gave her a reading before the before we went to

845
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,679
the pilot, just so she would know what the process was.

846
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:52,000
And I brought through a girl. I said, this little

847
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,440
baby girl at dodgead twenty of yours at die. She goes, yes,

848
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,880
that's right. And it was very a good reading because

849
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,239
I wanted to give her the awareness of the education

850
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,519
of it. And then during the show, I'm doing a

851
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,920
message for a lady on stage and she had lost

852
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,039
her someone very important, and the producer was so fearful

853
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:11,679
of is he going to get a hit. He's got

854
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,599
to get a hit. So instead of having just the

855
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,360
bride die, we have the whole, the grooms, the whole,

856
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,719
the whole wedding party dies, and it'd be like crazy

857
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,639
because the way they think. So I'm working with this

858
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,599
late lady on stage. At the corner of my eye,

859
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,719
I see an associate producer in the wings and she's

860
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,800
holding up a sign and I said, make her cry,

861
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:32,039
And I said, stop tape right now. Not only is

862
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:33,920
not her ful to the audience members and the lady

863
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
getting the message, but that is completely wrong space. So

864
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,199
I literally went up to the booth and I yelled

865
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480
at the at the producer, and you cannot do that.

866
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,079
Don't ever insult us like that. Then never install the

867
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,920
spirit world like that. And then another thing that happened

868
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,719
was which I'll never forget this. I did many shows

869
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,599
a day, I did fifteen shows whatever it was. We

870
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,119
double booked stuff and I worked by rear end Off,

871
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:56,199
and I remember there was a series of murders and

872
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:57,840
I don't know what's going to happen. I separate myself

873
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920
in a different building, which I shouldn't have, but I did,

874
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:03,199
And there was all these murder stories and it was

875
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:06,039
depleting and probably the six murders. I said, I will

876
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,400
not do this again this week. I doesn't murders, murders

877
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,280
a heavy duty, Oh not the energy energy energy heavy

878
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:14,599
So I said, I won't do that, and she was Oka,

879
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,960
it's your last one. It's your last one, and said, well,

880
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,280
I won't do this tomorrow, No way. So because I

881
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,400
had to protect the vessel, I had to protect it.

882
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,880
So the next morning I come in eight thirty and

883
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,559
there's a script there says a murder of Joshua, and

884
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,320
I'm like, I throw it back out to the PREDI

885
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,760
I'm not doing this, and you just want I said no,

886
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,039
and I literally, Alex, I have to go to this

887
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,519
point of the young and I wants to do this.

888
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,280
I had to literally lock my door and knock them

889
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,559
out of my dressing room until they change the.

890
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:45,119
Speaker 1: Store, like like like a temperamental actor.

891
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,159
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm not that way, but that's the level

892
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:49,800
I have to go to for them to understand that's

893
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,440
not appropriate. And this had the studio came, my agents came,

894
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,800
managers came, was like, you have to understand the sensitivity,

895
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840
of the nature of the sensitivity of this work. And

896
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,639
if you don't, that's not my problem, that's your problem.

897
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:04,239
I won't harm myself or other people for this.

898
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,599
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

899
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,320
and now back to the show. You know what is

900
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,079
so interesting too, because I come from that world very

901
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,119
very much. So I've been for thirty years. So you, oh,

902
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,719
I understand at such a deep level you have no idea, James,

903
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,320
because you're absolutely right in many ways. And this happens

904
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,320
with young actors, this happens with stars who just blow

905
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,239
up all of a sudden. It almost is like, and

906
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,360
please forgive me for using this word. Let's bring out

907
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,679
the freak, and let's try to use and milk this

908
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,840
as much as we can while it's the good is going.

909
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,320
That's Hollywood. That's Hollywood since the day's of Chaplain. It's

910
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,199
always been that way. And sometimes you get, you know,

911
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,960
a good team that makes it go work. But many

912
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,199
times you get to like the more elaborate kind of

913
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,360
reality show kind of like, let's make them that kind

914
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,159
of aspect of things. And I hope that this show

915
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,360
I really try to bring more of a human face

916
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
to this kind of work. And also channels which channels

917
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:14,159
on a whole other level because they get, especially trans

918
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,360
channels turn into other people and the voices change, and

919
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,239
all the talk about like, ooh, let's let's see what

920
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440
the quote unquote, I geint what the freak does. Let's

921
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,159
put the camera on them, and let's make money. How

922
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,559
can we make money with this? It's not that you

923
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,920
have to respect what we're all doing in this space,

924
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,519
and I think the process. I do believe, and I think,

925
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:35,880
and i'd love to hear your thoughts from where you

926
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,519
started in the eighties to where we are now. I

927
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,199
believe things have changed a bit in regards to the space,

928
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,440
the respect of this art and what we're doing. Would

929
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,599
you agree, Yeah, yes, and you said it correctly.

930
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:50,639
Speaker 2: It's an art. It really is an art, and it

931
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,519
has we looked at that way. It's not an entertainment.

932
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,199
It's an art. Now, if you have personality like me

933
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,639
and personality that they can do that and bring out

934
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,800
the arpitals will be the fun of it. That that's great.

935
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,320
But it's an art and it's got to respected, and

936
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,760
it's a sensitive art, you know.

937
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: I did.

938
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,559
Speaker 2: There was a movie of my life with Ted Danson

939
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,599
played me and based on my first was Talking to Heaven. Yeah,

940
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,000
I don't know if you knew that, and I wouldn't

941
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,880
know that when again it was a movie, I have

942
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,480
a lot of the background. Yeah, I'll tell you that.

943
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,440
It's a funny story and it shows you how the

944
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,639
spiral is also intervenes and how every day they interviewed

945
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,000
our path. Well, the book did so well that CBS

946
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:25,920
bought the book to do a movie. It was movie

947
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,519
the week Time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So NBC had it.

948
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,559
They dropped it down and development and CBS bought it.

949
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,679
And I met with a long story, but I heard

950
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,519
what I heard was and is the way it worked out.

951
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,079
I got a call from that man who was writing

952
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,239
the book, the movie Talking to Heaven. It was such

953
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,039
a great when I went to a miniseries, So they

954
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:50,679
went to miniseries, Nina Testa, I wanted to do a

955
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:54,000
mini series and less moonfes. Okay, So from what I understand,

956
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,280
Mary Steam Virgin was on a plane and she said

957
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,079
to me, I never talked to people on a plane.

958
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,800
So there was this man sitting writing a script and

959
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,920
she's sitting next Tom and she heard her father say,

960
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,559
you have to talk to him. You have to talk

961
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:04,920
to him.

962
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: So she asked the guy.

963
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,199
Speaker 2: She goes, what are you writing? He goes, oh, I'm

964
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:09,880
funny you're sitting here. I'm just thinking of you for

965
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239
a part. And it's Talking to Heaven, based on James

966
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,639
Van Progg's book. And she goes, oh, that's my favorite

967
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,719
book I've given to all my friends blah blah blah blah.

968
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,440
And he goes, oh, yeah, I'm writing this. This isni

969
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:21,239
series here and she goes, can you get me in

970
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,519
touch with the author, and so he goes, ye, I'll

971
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,880
probably be able to. So I met with Mary and

972
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,719
he did a reading, which I rarely do, but I

973
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,239
felt I had to do this. It was important. I

974
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,599
don't know why I felt it what I did. So

975
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:34,119
I said, yes me, I'll be love to do a

976
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:35,840
reading with you. And I went to her house in

977
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,039
Brentwood and we had her and Ted and friends of

978
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,679
theirs and we'rell sitting around and I'm like, okay, so

979
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,480
I do this thing was really good. Night. Spirit was

980
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,119
right there and Ted's father came through and Ted is

981
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:50,639
sitting on a little like ottoman and his father said, Ted,

982
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,599
I'm here. I'm having my whiskey and my herringbone jacket

983
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,400
and he said, and he said, you know I'm in

984
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,719
heaven if I'm having my whiskey and my haring bone jacket.

985
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,480
And Ted Danson looks at me and he's like crying

986
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:03,119
and he falls down on the floor. I'm like, oh no, what.

987
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,519
Speaker 1: Did I do? Did dance? Oh? God? Did I break

988
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:06,119
tad dancing?

989
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,119
Speaker 2: Gee?

990
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:08,679
Speaker 1: Did I break tend dancing? Oh jeez.

991
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 2: So it was so funny because afterwards we're hanging out

992
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,960
and it was just a great night. He goes and

993
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,119
he didn't believe in any of it until then, and

994
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:18,440
he said, that was just so weird. Every night my father,

995
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,320
every time my father come home from work every day

996
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,400
he put on his harrybone jacket and had a whiskey

997
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,559
in front of the fireplace. And that's how he died.

998
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:27,719
James I said, Wow, that's incredible. Ted. The next day,

999
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,119
I get a phone call from the production company and

1000
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,039
they said, listen, we don't know we're going to do

1001
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:33,800
the movie. I said, why, well, no one wants to

1002
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,559
play a medium. Gary Snise turned it down, and someone

1003
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,360
else turned it down, and Less Moonvez CBS said there's

1004
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,280
only one more person he could try because he has

1005
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,960
a contract with this guy who does Becker Ted Danson,

1006
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,480
I said, Ted dancing. I was at his house last night. Wait,

1007
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,480
wait a minute, Well can you ask him? I said no,

1008
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,960
I can't ask him. I can't cross that line. That's

1009
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,719
not appropriate. I cannot do that. So it was that weird.

1010
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,920
I was so weird. So then what happened was his

1011
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,760
manager called me. Ted's manager it called me and said,

1012
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,679
can you meet with me regarding the sake CBS Collin

1013
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,840
said sure, So we met and Ted agreed to do

1014
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
it because based upon that reading, his father came through

1015
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,239
and the miniseriies happened with Queen Latifa was in it,

1016
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,400
Diane Ladd, these people. Uh, Jack Palance played my father

1017
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,039
and it was just so weird. And it was the

1018
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,239
number one mini series of CBS History except for Jesus.

1019
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:24,840
And because of that mini series and you can still

1020
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,880
download now and Amazon whatever, it then opened up to

1021
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:29,559
they want to do more with me. So we did

1022
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:31,920
another movie with a lady by the name of who's

1023
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,599
just starting out and Eva Longoria. You've heard of her.

1024
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: She was in on the show.

1025
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,159
Speaker 2: Okay, so she wasn't going to be in New Orleans.

1026
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,800
We're doing this this mini series. She said, came up

1027
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,599
to me during the breaks, mister Van Prau, can I

1028
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:46,679
ask your question? I said, sure.

1029
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: She becaes.

1030
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:48,599
Speaker 2: I just finished a pilot and I was wondering if

1031
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:50,920
it's going to do anything. And I said, well, what's

1032
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,039
the name of question. It's called House. It's going to

1033
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,840
change your life. It's just really I said, oh, it's

1034
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,639
going to change your life. You'll see. Well years later

1035
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,159
we know the history of that. Then the miniseriies and

1036
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,079
the movie did so well with Anne Haitian even Mongory,

1037
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:05,719
and that was before Eve was Eva. It was Anne

1038
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,800
hash to the Star and it went so well that

1039
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,360
they want to do a series. And now they wanted

1040
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,719
to do a series, so they asked me to develop

1041
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,800
a series, and I developed a Ghost Whisper with Jennifer

1042
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,880
Love You It and it.

1043
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Did really, really well.

1044
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 2: And then well and the Universal Cafeteria right in office

1045
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,840
at Universal, and also I see Eva and coming over

1046
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:24,880
and her eyes met at the same time and went

1047
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,800
went ah. And I went over and I said, did

1048
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,159
it change your life? And she goes, oh my god,

1049
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,880
So yeah, wow. One of those stories that you know

1050
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,639
had the interweaving of all those things that the spirit world,

1051
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,800
you know, they were in our lives and how they

1052
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,679
worked really hard behind the scenes to make things happen.

1053
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny too, because of something that

1054
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,920
I've said on the show so much, is when you

1055
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,519
when you learn how to let go of truck of

1056
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:54,079
this false idea that you could control everything. Right, when

1057
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:56,719
you let go, things start to happen. It's kind of

1058
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,519
like doors start to open that we're closed before. And

1059
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:02,480
that's such a people don't understand when they hear let go,

1060
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,239
I'm like, I can't let oh, I have you have

1061
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,519
to still like I didn't, They say stop, just sit

1062
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:08,360
down and wait for the door to knock. Get up.

1063
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,039
And you know, I always say cut the wood, carry

1064
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,480
the water, but don't connect where that would cross.

1065
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:14,079
Speaker 2: We need the wood.

1066
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that too, but I always say that don't

1067
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,760
don't expect where this is all going to go. Just

1068
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,360
do the work, and if you're going on the right path,

1069
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,079
doors will start to open.

1070
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:26,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, the boats have a great saying that I'd

1071
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:29,519
love to use every day. It is you can't push

1072
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:33,239
the river. You you can't push that river. You got

1073
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,119
to let it flow. And it's very very true. Because

1074
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,880
when you open that space up, you allow the energy

1075
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,960
to flow. It's all but letting the energy flow. So

1076
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,679
I do a lot of work with people and we

1077
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,400
do we're called scanning, and we scan the body energy

1078
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:46,880
the body, and we'll scan the body. There'll be certain

1079
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,400
let's say, the emotional body. There's something I call it staining.

1080
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:51,480
And you will say, oh, you have staining there. Yes,

1081
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,960
I went through a divorce. Well it's still there and

1082
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,280
it's blocking the rest of the energy flow. And we

1083
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,159
have that every day. And I think it's really important

1084
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,280
that through meditation through self that you open up those

1085
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,920
channels every day because a lot of us, Alex, I

1086
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,000
don't know what your thoughts about this. We take on

1087
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,440
energy from other people. I think absolutely, especially being sensitives

1088
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,400
and and and beings here, the energetic beings, And I

1089
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,840
think and I want to hear I'd like to hear

1090
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,840
your point of view on this, because I just thought

1091
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,840
about this two weeks ago, that you know, we take

1092
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,880
on that throol's energy and many time do we keep

1093
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440
the energy there in our space? We tend to look

1094
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,840
at life or make choices based upon that person's energy

1095
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,239
because we're looking through rose colored glasses. Does that make

1096
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,559
sense to you that we're not it does?

1097
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: It does make sense to me because I have I

1098
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,360
have a family which is all women in my family

1099
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,360
have no boys. I have no testoterone in the house

1100
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,000
at all. And as being the only male in the

1101
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:46,800
in the house, a lot of times there's some drama

1102
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,840
in the female side of the fat not with me,

1103
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,079
just on the you know, because they're young girls. And

1104
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,519
so a lot of times I will pick up on

1105
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:59,599
that energy and then I will notice myself change and

1106
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:02,199
I would be like, and I start getting a little angrier,

1107
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,800
or I get a little bit more perturbed, or my

1108
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,679
or my patience threshold drops dramatically. Uh. And the only way,

1109
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,679
only in the way that family does, right.

1110
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,559
Speaker 2: The greatest teachers, Yeah, the greatest teachers.

1111
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: So I do notice that. But everybody, I think can

1112
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,679
agree that when you walk into a room, sometimes you

1113
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,280
will go, what happened just here? If there was a

1114
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,880
fight before and now it's quiet, you walk in and go,

1115
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,079
there's something in the air we all can feel. Or

1116
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:29,800
you meet somebody and you want to like take a

1117
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,800
shower afterwards, like you just met a car salesman, sorry

1118
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,199
car salesman, or you know, a sales sales guy or

1119
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,280
some sort and you're just like, oh I just oh god,

1120
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,800
I feel icky just being around this person. That's an

1121
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,599
energy thing. That's an energy thing. So absolutely, and a

1122
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,039
lot of times that energy will stick with you. I'm

1123
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,159
not sure if on the one off with the salespeople,

1124
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,679
but or a salesperson as anikey salesperson, but people that

1125
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,679
are close to you. Absolutely, your your mother comes to visit,

1126
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,920
your father comes to visit, your brother comes to visit,

1127
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,639
and you have issue, or you have history or they

1128
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,199
say that word that just sets you off because of

1129
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,199
all that history that sticks with you and you can't

1130
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,440
make clear decisions when you're in that state. We'll be

1131
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:20,719
right back after a word from our sponsor and now

1132
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,199
back to the show. Right. So I think it's really important.

1133
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: And the way I look at it, like as many

1134
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:31,079
times as it's programmed, So because broadcasts three, that program

1135
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,800
is sending programs and we pick up those programs and

1136
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,119
we see them and then we can realize whose program

1137
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,800
it is and let it go, or we don't recognize

1138
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,639
it and we make it our own. See and part

1139
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:44,440
of it, we get stuck there because we make their

1140
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,880
problems our problems. Their energy is our energy, and it's

1141
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,000
their program, not our program, but we make it ours.

1142
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:50,559
So we have to be able to translate and find

1143
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,880
out whose program is this? Welly am I feeling this way?

1144
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,599
What just happened that I'm sensing this? Am I holding

1145
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:56,199
onto this energy?

1146
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: We're going to let it go.

1147
00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:59,559
Speaker 2: And with mediumship, what I do with the work I

1148
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,480
do is times I will pick up the energy.

1149
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Of that force.

1150
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Is how they passed away the grief that they have

1151
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,239
from the spirit world. I should have would have could a.

1152
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,519
And it's so amazing because then when you and you're

1153
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,679
working with someone who's in the living state and they

1154
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,920
hear their loved one, their orc field opens up and expands,

1155
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,920
and there was something that's deep, dark down and dense

1156
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,280
opens up and expands and you see a beautiful light,

1157
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,039
You feel beautiful energy, and they feel so much better

1158
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,639
and the spirit feels so much better. So and it's

1159
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,639
just a matter of love. So love is that love

1160
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,320
is the best way for us to let go of

1161
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,760
other people's energy from our space and to really open

1162
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,840
up our own self as love of self, being aware

1163
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,599
of self. But love is the ingredient that brings all things.

1164
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Together and you, you and I both have studied Yogananda

1165
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:48,000
and studied the Yogis in India, and you hear these

1166
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,679
stories that there's nothing that really moves them in the

1167
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,119
sense of energy like that, because they are so connected

1168
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:58,280
to the inner place, that thing that we were talking

1169
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,519
about earlier. They're so connected to it that the one

1170
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,639
I think the Maharishi, they gave him some psychedelics he

1171
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,679
ate like a pot and did nothing. He just laughed

1172
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:09,960
after he ate it because he literally had so well

1173
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,480
controlled of his physical state and spiritual state that didn't

1174
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,960
bother them. So those energies don't They kind of just

1175
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,079
bounce off or they don't even connect with them because

1176
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,039
they are a deep understanding of who they are. They're

1177
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:21,440
at a whole other level that you and I are

1178
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,719
not at this point.

1179
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,679
Speaker 2: But does that make sense to you completely? Completely? And

1180
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,480
it's the emotional charge that and it's like holding on

1181
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,039
to a charge waiting for the outcome. What's for the outcome?

1182
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,920
As there is no outcome, everything.

1183
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,599
Speaker 1: Should be neutralized.

1184
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: I think a good point Alex and I've helped with

1185
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,079
a lot of people. If this has helped me as well,

1186
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,039
is you become the observer. You step back and you

1187
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:43,360
observe everything. It's almost like you're sitting in an audience

1188
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,559
watching a theater at the actual show, and you see

1189
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,519
the show play on stage, but you don't get involved

1190
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,559
in it, but you're aware of what's who the characters are,

1191
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,480
and what's going on. But even life, you can be objective,

1192
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:55,639
be observant, be an observer of life. Don't be so

1193
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,360
involved when you don't have to be. Only when you're

1194
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,000
when you're meant to. But just observing really helps a lot,

1195
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,639
and it really helps a lot. The same thing got

1196
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,960
maybe with psychedelics. I was giving them, nothing happened. I

1197
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,239
was given some what was it, hyahuasca years ago and

1198
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,199
I hadn't experienced people are leaving the room when they're

1199
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,679
throwing up and having you know, diary and also like

1200
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,639
what's going on here? And I didn't feel any of that,

1201
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,039
And I just had an awareness like I don't awares

1202
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:22,760
of my guide or my higher self, and it was

1203
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,800
just it was quite of the validation of what I

1204
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,800
already knew. It was nice, but I don't need it.

1205
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't write it exactly. And if I cant quote

1206
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,360
Yogananda on this, he's like so so many times we

1207
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,119
get caught up in if we're in a movie theater,

1208
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,199
we get caught up with what's on the screen, which

1209
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,639
is what you're saying, be an observer, but we get

1210
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,639
caught up in the people dying and people yelling, in

1211
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,960
the wars and the anger, and you get caught up

1212
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,360
in the drama. He goes, but you need to stop,

1213
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,719
look back and turn around, and your goal should not

1214
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,840
be to look at the screen, put to find out

1215
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,360
where the light is coming from. Oh that's great, the

1216
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,400
projector to look back at the projector. I was like, huh, oh,

1217
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,800
that's so wonderful, So so wed.

1218
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: It's the reminder if you don't mind. It reminds me

1219
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,400
of an experience I had with a good, good, good

1220
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,239
friend of mine who passed over. Her name was Olivia,

1221
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,320
and she was a British lady, how a little older

1222
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,079
than I was, and we used to go to spiritual

1223
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,599
healing circles for years, thirty forty years. She said mediums

1224
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:18,519
and do a whole bunch of different things. And we

1225
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:21,000
made a pack that whoever goes over first comes back

1226
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:22,400
right away and tells the other one what it's going

1227
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,320
to be like. So I'm driving. I'm in Cineitas, California,

1228
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,119
and I'm driving down the street and I see her

1229
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,599
face and my windshields, like, Olivia, are you dead? And

1230
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:32,719
she said, I'm not the dead one. You are. I'm like,

1231
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,559
what about back home? And her daughter sent me an

1232
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:37,480
email said from Australia and she said, my mother passed

1233
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,920
away a twelve o two. And I said, oh, I

1234
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,679
know very well. And then I asked, Olivia says, show me,

1235
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,519
and she took my mind into a space, into a

1236
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,280
cinema like you're talking about. And Olivia said, it was

1237
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,440
very weird, James, she was very strange. I walked into

1238
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,519
the cinema and I'm walking in and all these people

1239
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:53,760
are sitting watching the screen, and she showed me them.

1240
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,760
She They're all looking up at the screen, and I realized, oh.

1241
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,320
And I go into the screen and suddenly all these

1242
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,440
beautiful flower are there, and these colors and people that

1243
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,960
haven't seen many, many years. So I just smiled at

1244
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:07,719
ones came to greet me, to receive me the most

1245
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,920
beautiful things. I was so alive, and the fact of

1246
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,880
the people in the seats watching the screen and they

1247
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,719
were the dead ones, and she just talked about that,

1248
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,880
and she said it was beyond her belief, and she

1249
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,880
has been into this work for a long time, beyond

1250
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,960
her belief. And she said, it's the little things you

1251
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:24,280
do in life that matter the most. And she goes

1252
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,239
those people, those kind people. I gave a kind word,

1253
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,639
I opened the door, I smiled at someone. They're the

1254
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:31,360
ones that came to greet me, to thank me and

1255
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,440
to welcome me. Very important. Yeah, it's beautiful.

1256
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:36,519
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful.

1257
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know what your one thought, your

1258
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,400
one word, that any interaction you have with people, it'll

1259
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,679
make a difference every day. I did my best whenever

1260
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:46,119
I'm interacting with the public, I'll put a smile on

1261
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:49,440
someone's face. And that's just because energetically I'd like to

1262
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,360
change that. So if I go to Starbucks and some

1263
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:53,159
I have a hard to say I love that.

1264
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: Green apron you're wearing, No I can wear.

1265
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: It like you, and I just let them stop and

1266
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,679
give them a moment of cheer and if it changes

1267
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,440
her whole day, you know, oh.

1268
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: Exactly, A nice a nice little comment, a nice little saying.

1269
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:08,079
Just as the same way as like you say to

1270
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:11,960
something negative, you could easily say something positive exactly, and

1271
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,519
and fear loves.

1272
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: The negativity is fear and love is positive.

1273
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,159
Speaker 1: So, James, I'd love to talk to you a little

1274
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:19,920
bit because we've kind of dabbled a little bit about

1275
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,360
what happens on the other side. We've had a lot

1276
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,159
of near death experiences on I have a general idea

1277
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,000
from having near death experience too, so I would love

1278
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,480
to hear about this near death experience. But from my

1279
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:36,960
understanding between the work, I do have a somewhat of

1280
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,519
an understanding. It changes, but the general there's a big

1281
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,360
mile Markers life review, you know, these kind of things.

1282
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,760
I'd love to hear your near death experience, if you

1283
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,760
don't mind me to share. And then from your experience,

1284
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:50,599
what does truly happen on the other side.

1285
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,079
Speaker 2: Well, well, my experience was and I was doing mediature

1286
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:56,480
for quite a while when this happened. But I remember

1287
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,800
I was I was drinking in LA after a show

1288
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,400
and I went to my friend Victoria, and I think

1289
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,360
maybe that was I'm not sure, but we had one

1290
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,119
glass of one bottle of wine that was really it

1291
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:13,840
wasn't a lot, but somehow I started bleeding esophacause I

1292
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,079
was bleeding, I guess and I was throwing up and

1293
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:19,719
I came back. So I lived in Laguna Beach at

1294
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:21,559
the time, and it came from La down to Laguna

1295
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,280
and every exit in the freeway to go.

1296
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: Off and throw up.

1297
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel good for like, oh good fifteen minutes.

1298
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,159
Then I had to go again. And so I got

1299
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:31,199
home in Laguna Beach and I called up my partner

1300
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:32,960
at the time and I said, I'm really sick and

1301
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:34,800
I know what's going on. He said, well, just wait,

1302
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,400
you know tonight, I'll come by. It's okay, And I

1303
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,280
again every half hour to go. So that night came

1304
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,239
over and he's everything was fine, and I said, oh, well,

1305
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:43,800
here it comes again. And I went to the bathroom

1306
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,280
and I and I blacked out my head at the

1307
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,519
counter and I fell on the floor and I pulled

1308
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:50,719
I popped her out of the body, and I'm looking

1309
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,639
down in my body. I'm like, okay, what's this about? Like, okay,

1310
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,400
I know it's on my time. I know I was

1311
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,400
immediately outside of linear time, but I knew that this

1312
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,880
was not my time to go. I just that and

1313
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,840
I said, what's happening here? And all of a sudden,

1314
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,000
my cousin Patricia came in front of me, and but

1315
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:07,760
cousin Patricia completed suicide when she was forty eight, and

1316
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,960
she taught me metaphysics when I was a child, right,

1317
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,920
and I hadn't seen her since, And I said, pat

1318
00:58:13,199 --> 00:58:15,760
pat is it over? She goes, it's gonna be over.

1319
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Don't worry it.

1320
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,159
Speaker 1: You mean over over or over?

1321
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: Please let me know because I needed.

1322
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:20,199
Speaker 1: Some help here.

1323
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden she disappeared. And I immediately

1324
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,599
became aware of everybody having this, if you will, this

1325
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,360
sense of a chord coming out at the top of

1326
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,519
their heads, and the court it was, yes, this chord,

1327
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:33,679
and it went into this tapestry matrix tapestry wouldn't call it.

1328
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,039
And I know that the thoughts that we had created

1329
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,679
the color or the structure and into this ribbon, and

1330
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,519
this ribbon then bled into that tapestry, and I realized, Oh,

1331
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,079
my thoughts create in that tapestry, the beauty or the

1332
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:49,000
ugliness in that tapestry. I'm like, oh wow, And we

1333
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,719
all have that chord, that ribbon that leeds in there,

1334
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,199
and did life review We look and see what we

1335
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,440
did with that tapestry? Do make it more beautiful or

1336
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,280
do we not? And then I really had that insight.

1337
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:02,079
And it then was into a garden and my father

1338
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:04,159
was there and he was wearing a brown suit and

1339
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:06,199
he came to he said, come here, you're getting your

1340
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:07,880
white rose. He goes, it's not your time. You got

1341
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,880
to go back, and I said okay, and I was

1342
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,679
like I fell right back into the body and my

1343
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,760
head hurt, and my partner, Brian at the time, was like, James,

1344
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,880
wake up, wake up. And the first words out of

1345
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,719
my mouth were dying as easy, living as hard. And

1346
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,199
now why did I have the experience? I only know that.

1347
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,559
Years later, I was doing a seminar, some kind of

1348
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:31,360
seminar with a lot of people, and the lady who

1349
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,800
organized it said, well, your reading is a little bit different.

1350
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,519
They're a little bit more high end, like a high

1351
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:40,039
level of teachings, and she was right. So however that worked,

1352
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,400
I definitely was bringing through higher awareness, if you will,

1353
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:48,840
life lessons more than I had done before so and

1354
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,679
it just helped me realize even more that our thoughts

1355
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:53,360
are things, and how we treat each other it's very

1356
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:53,960
very important.

1357
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,199
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1358
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,480
and now back to the show. Yeah, I'd imagine so

1359
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:09,679
that that you were through that near death experience, it

1360
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,079
kind of elevated your vibration to a point where then

1361
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:15,000
you could start picking up these new signals of these

1362
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:17,519
higher teachings. Does that make sense correct?

1363
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: And I'd have to say, Alex, based upon my sister

1364
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,880
just passed in April, who's also in mediumship. Yeah, and

1365
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:25,800
she was. She was very funny because she kept herself

1366
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,159
severing to the end and she goes, is this dead?

1367
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:29,960
Because I don't like this. I said, well, it's time

1368
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,039
for a magic carpet rode. You're gonna go soon. Anyway,

1369
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:34,360
she said was, and and other people have said it

1370
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,000
come through. They say the first thing to say is well,

1371
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:37,480
we're part of many, many worlds.

1372
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: We're worlds within worlds.

1373
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: There's all these different worlds that we're part of, and

1374
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,880
we choose what world are going to emphasize in the lifetime.

1375
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:45,280
We're part of all these different worlds. And she said

1376
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,000
to me, I was wading my garden I have here

1377
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,119
in Incidios and it's a pretty garden. And I said, Lenna,

1378
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:52,159
help me love the garden, and she goes, I wasn't

1379
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:54,920
able to see beauty in this lifetime. She shouldn't allow

1380
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,000
herself to see beauty. So it's interesting because we take

1381
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,920
on this soul, takes on all of these we have

1382
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,320
attributes to the soul, and we take on all these

1383
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:06,960
experiences and situations that really test those attributes, that bring

1384
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,599
those attributes out to the surface and really do test

1385
01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:11,800
them to make us better, to help us to understand

1386
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,079
each other, to live someone else's life. I mean, it's

1387
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:17,039
it's a great opportunity here in this three dimensional world

1388
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,639
called school called Earth. But the all different stations in life,

1389
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:23,119
and we have everything. The astral world is very much

1390
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,760
similar to the Earth, but even better. The gardens are

1391
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,800
of the colors more colorful, they say, the colors that

1392
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,840
you have the real sense of color is natural gemstones.

1393
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,400
That that really is the right color if you will

1394
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,599
to measure color from your dimension. So and you can

1395
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,239
have anything you want. You on the other side, and

1396
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,159
I remembers on Larry Kingside saw when your father's playing golf,

1397
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:45,400
and Larry goes they have golf over there. So you

1398
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,320
can have whatever you want. If you want a golf,

1399
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,199
you can have golf. If you pass over and you

1400
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:51,719
have your you like a drink a cocktail. You can

1401
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,559
create that with your thoughts and you'll have a cocktail

1402
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:56,519
in your hands and you can drink it, and you'll

1403
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,519
have a memory of that, says create it. You won't

1404
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:00,760
have the same hit as you would in the physical

1405
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,599
because not a physical body, but you have the memory

1406
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:04,639
of that. So it's certain things a memory, like they

1407
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,400
might be desired to have food again because you have

1408
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
the memory of that in the earth. But that'll die

1409
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:11,920
off because you won't need that anymore. What you adjust

1410
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:14,159
or acctl me to your new way of being, that

1411
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:16,280
old Steff fluss off, you don't need that anymore.

1412
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: So you said, this is something I want to kind

1413
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,000
of dig into. You just said, there are many, many worlds,

1414
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,639
and this is starting to touch into quantum physics and

1415
01:02:26,679 --> 01:02:31,280
into parallel lives and the multiverse and multiple worlds. And

1416
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,320
then it's kind of like you go outside to side

1417
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,239
and you go up and down and there's depth. So

1418
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,280
it's like all the way between parallel lives and multiverses

1419
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,440
and quantum jumping to different realities and things like that.

1420
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,559
That again, quantum physics is talking about this concept of

1421
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:52,360
multi worlds and we choose which one to emphasize I've

1422
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,039
heard and this is difficult for our brains to kind

1423
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:58,079
of process, but all of our lives are happening at

1424
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,719
the same time, completely very difficult for us to understand

1425
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,440
us because we say past lives. We literally say past lives,

1426
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,239
so like, oh, I was an Aztec, or I was

1427
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,679
in Rome, or I was in Egypt or something like that.

1428
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,599
So from my understanding, and please, I'd love to hear

1429
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:18,079
your thoughts on this. We're living right now. This is

1430
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:20,039
where the needle is on the record at the moment

1431
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:23,719
from this perspective, right and we are dealing with things

1432
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:27,360
that happened quote unquote in the past, let's say our

1433
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,920
Roman life that we do. We're dealing with problems, you know,

1434
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,679
or the the when we were hung or we were

1435
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:36,719
burned at the stake. We're still dealing with that kind

1436
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,280
of trauma that we're working out in this life when

1437
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:41,159
we work it out.

1438
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,199
Speaker 2: By the way, just different names exactly different names of

1439
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:46,079
the wars. It's still the war, but just changed the

1440
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:47,360
names very much.

1441
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,119
Speaker 1: So now it's all social media. But you don't get

1442
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:55,719
hung on the square, you get hung on Twitter. So

1443
01:03:55,719 --> 01:03:59,360
so if we fix or deal with or overcome that

1444
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:04,960
lesson in this life. Apparently it ripples to all your

1445
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,000
lives in the past, and it ripples all to your

1446
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,360
future lives. It starts to mess with your head, love,

1447
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,320
to hear your thoughts.

1448
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Their goodbye, you got it, goodbye, goodbye. That's right. So

1449
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:18,480
it's hard for us, like you said, to conceive. So

1450
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:21,159
I like to use analogies a lot. So let's say

1451
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:23,679
we're a diamond, and that each experience we have in

1452
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:26,559
this let's say in this lifetime, cuts another facet of

1453
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:28,800
the diamond. And let's have a different time of light,

1454
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,639
different degree of light. So if we think that we're

1455
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:32,599
a diamond of souls, a diamond and all the different

1456
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:37,360
facets from every experience of lifetimes. So I totally agree

1457
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,119
with you and that we want to experience more of

1458
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,639
that aspect or that aspect or understand about caring or

1459
01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:44,719
compassion or forgiveness will take take on all these different

1460
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:47,119
types of situations. And I do believe, and I know.

1461
01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:48,480
And a friend of mine made a comment. Friend of

1462
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,360
mine is a visiting fourth of July, and he made

1463
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,199
a comment. It was a strange comment because he was

1464
01:04:52,239 --> 01:04:54,440
not this way, but just dropped in his head and

1465
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,840
he said, if we can live in the moment, there's

1466
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,280
no other way things will work out. We just have

1467
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,519
to live in a moment. It's very, very true because

1468
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:03,599
in the moment you're aware of what's going right now.

1469
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,000
The past has already happened, the future is yet to be. Now,

1470
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,360
if you can this moment forgive someone for what they did,

1471
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:14,480
that energy of forgiveness ripples all the way back, like

1472
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:17,679
you said, and changes things in the past and the future.

1473
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,119
You can change your past lives, you can change your

1474
01:05:20,119 --> 01:05:22,559
future lis by what you're doing at this particular moment.

1475
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,880
The more you love that you show and demonstrate will

1476
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,280
effect all those experiences in the past and all experiences

1477
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,440
in the future. Don't ask me how, but it does happen.

1478
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,239
It's energy, it's thought, it's you've reached a point where

1479
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,639
you realize that love is the answer, and forgiveness is

1480
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:39,519
a big one. You know, by forgiving others, you figure yourself,

1481
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:41,880
figure yourself forgive others. It's living in that moment. But

1482
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,800
I agree with you, what you do now effects past

1483
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,400
in the future.

1484
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: So if this is the record needle, as I use

1485
01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:50,840
in my analogy on the record, are there multiple record

1486
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,519
needles in different lifetimes or is this just the perspective

1487
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:55,639
of this one and their other ones, And let's not

1488
01:05:55,679 --> 01:06:00,079
even get into parallel lives current parallel lives, or well

1489
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:00,960
least a trippy one.

1490
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,519
Speaker 2: So here's the trippy one. Another trippy one, and that

1491
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,119
the soul. As I said before, seventy percent of the

1492
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,400
souls outside the body. Thirty percent is over here. So

1493
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,119
if we go to really understand the soul, we want

1494
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:13,840
to go to seventy percent. Those different fields of levels, well,

1495
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,280
every one of those fields is a different way of life. Right.

1496
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,239
So you're existing right now in a past life, in

1497
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,840
a future life right now, as you're simultaneously living this

1498
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,360
moment right now, you're living those other lifetimes at the

1499
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,159
same exact moment. And it seems that what you're doing

1500
01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:30,599
in this physicalness, if you will and see your dimension,

1501
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:34,039
will affect those other lifetimes and vice versa too. By

1502
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:36,360
the way, there's there's aspects of the higher life or

1503
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,599
the different fields that that can bleed down. We heard

1504
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,920
the higher self. If we bring down that energy of

1505
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,119
the higher self into the awareness to the moment, it

1506
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:47,000
can affect that moment. And that goes back into meditation

1507
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:49,639
sitting in the silence being, the stillness of your being,

1508
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,960
you will be influenced by the higher self. So that's

1509
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,159
how it works. But again, the secret is to know thyself,

1510
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:58,599
to thy own self be true, and that is really it.

1511
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:01,239
Never con pare yourself to other people. Be who you are,

1512
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,800
because you are who you are, because you meant to

1513
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,320
be who you are.

1514
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: So one thing I've noticed about your work, James, and

1515
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:11,880
this is unlike other quote unquote psychic mediums that I've spoken.

1516
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:14,599
Speaker 2: Before, I don't like that psychic medium because it's no mediums.

1517
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,719
It's redundant because every medium needs to be psychic. Everything

1518
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:21,920
enough that psychic gets your money back because hello, every medium,

1519
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,519
so psychic is a perception, right, So psychic we perceive,

1520
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,199
and everybody is psychic one degree or another, and a

1521
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,639
medium receives. So not every psychic is a medium, but

1522
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,360
every medium is psychic. So that's very very okay, Okay,

1523
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:36,840
you know that difference there, And so psychic medium to me,

1524
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,760
is it just redundant. So spiritual medium to be really

1525
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,400
more accurate, I'd say really so, So spiritual medium.

1526
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: One thing I've I've learned about better its spiritually it

1527
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,559
sounds better it's better branded, but you're but your work

1528
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:54,440
as a spiritual medium, you really seem to connect a

1529
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,559
lot of ancient ideas and teachings in the work that

1530
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:02,000
you do in a way that I don't see very

1531
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,480
often because a lot of times it's all about give

1532
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:05,320
me the lottery tickets or am I going to meet

1533
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,280
my or am I going to meet my dark stranger?

1534
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:10,480
Or is this ey that I just did gonna blow

1535
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:13,840
me up? For these kind of ideas where your work,

1536
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:16,520
I know that must be extremely important for you. That's

1537
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:16,920
why it is.

1538
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,159
Speaker 2: It will say can you give me the numbers a lottery?

1539
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:20,319
And I was like, you think I'd be talking to

1540
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:21,640
you right now, but the numbers a lottery?

1541
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,199
Speaker 1: Certainly right now.

1542
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: But it's again how you use it. I'm very much

1543
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,439
as I said from the very beginning in development of

1544
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,960
my work that I have to be open minded, and

1545
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,960
I believe that I'm a sage from way back or

1546
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,479
that those lifetime sage with some philosophy. I know that,

1547
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,479
and I always bring that forward to however I can.

1548
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,399
I wish I bring more forward, But also you know,

1549
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,600
I think it's really important and al to do a

1550
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,399
great job at this and it's it's representing information to

1551
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:54,479
the general public that you can and I do this

1552
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,680
with my books that when I write my books, and

1553
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:00,439
I don't mean to sound detrimental here or down, but

1554
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,199
it's you have to feed them. You have to. You

1555
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:06,079
have to spoon feed the public. So these complexities, these

1556
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:11,119
these these these insights into other dimensions and so are there.

1557
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:13,039
But in wonder people to understand them, you got to

1558
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,079
give them some of the understand that they can relate to.

1559
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,640
So I think when you have to, and I hate

1560
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,199
to say the term, you have to kind of dumb

1561
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:22,159
it down, but you have to. Of course, you got

1562
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:22,760
dumb it down.

1563
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: I understand what you think.

1564
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 2: It's important that we bring these big concepts down to

1565
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,399
the fineness, which is love, love or fear is basically it.

1566
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,560
Then you can get into Once people can understand that,

1567
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,319
they go into a little bit more about how you

1568
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:37,840
treat people, the golden rule, a sense of who you are.

1569
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,199
Then we go a little bit further and we seeding.

1570
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,359
We're seeding them. You know, I have a lot of

1571
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,279
people saying, mean, god it, this is amazing. Wish I

1572
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:45,720
could tell my husband the work that you did, that

1573
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,319
you brought that through and I got to tell him.

1574
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,239
I can wait to tell him. I said, listen, he

1575
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,560
might not get it. Don't don't be so caught up

1576
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,560
in him getting it. Just plant the seed. When he's ready,

1577
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,119
he will get it. It's just you can't control. Just

1578
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:58,840
plant the seeds. It's all we can do. That's what

1579
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,640
you're doing. And I'm doing. We're planning the seeds. And

1580
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,199
I don't know. I think it's just again, it's it's

1581
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:08,680
having a sense of awareness. It's not just like I

1582
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,640
said earlier, like the circus of the fun act or

1583
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,600
whatever that jumped to the hoop or whatever. It's not that.

1584
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:16,199
It's who we are as spiritual where souls having a

1585
01:10:16,279 --> 01:10:18,479
human experience, not the other way around, and as a

1586
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,119
soul being representing that those lives. I think, you know,

1587
01:10:22,199 --> 01:10:24,680
the Bible says my father has a house with many mansions,

1588
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,560
and I do believe there are many, many levels and

1589
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,640
spectrums and spheres and worlds within worlds within worlds, and

1590
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,960
that one element that brings all those worlds together is love.

1591
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:35,800
Love is the only energy that goes through all of

1592
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,359
those dimensions, all those time spans.

1593
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,399
Speaker 1: Is love. Love is the answer.

1594
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: And that's exactly why it is is yeah, and we

1595
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,760
got no responsible for that.

1596
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1597
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,279
and now back to the show without question. And that's

1598
01:10:57,319 --> 01:10:59,760
one of the reasons what I think that movies and

1599
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:03,840
television and media in general has such a responsibility in

1600
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,079
that aspect, because there are certain movies that I can

1601
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:10,720
say simulation theory to you and they'll be like what,

1602
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:14,479
I go, it's the Matrix and they'll go, oh, the

1603
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,760
concepts there. Yeah, there's kung Fu, and there's other aspects

1604
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,600
that they they kind of did. But the concept of philosophy,

1605
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,159
the idea of multiple or the multiverse that Marvel is

1606
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:28,720
now bringing out, and that concept, yeah, it's superheroes fighting

1607
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,880
in the multiverse. It's okay because.

1608
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:35,119
Speaker 2: The idea is great way of entertainment. Just like a

1609
01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:37,520
ghost whisper, we opened up with fear, like people are

1610
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,600
afraid of these ghosts, but yet at the end it's

1611
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,000
all about love and healing. Same with the Marvel comics.

1612
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:45,319
Now they're bringing their edge and even the producers they're

1613
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:47,159
doing probably have no idea what they're doing. They're just

1614
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:50,680
being used by spiritual beings right to bring this teachings

1615
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,920
out and people will open people up on those levels.

1616
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,800
It'll open them up. They might have to get through

1617
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,359
entertainment or a strange way. But I'm going to say

1618
01:11:57,399 --> 01:11:59,079
something else with you talking to you about something else

1619
01:11:59,119 --> 01:12:00,880
to which I think is really it's bothered me over

1620
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,960
the years, and I think you get it too, because

1621
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,359
it goes back to that responsibility that once you put

1622
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:09,720
out in the masses, whether it's through television or social media,

1623
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:14,279
whether it's the movies, you have responsibility because it's all energy.

1624
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,079
So if you've got to put a movie about killing

1625
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:19,039
and fear that stays in the ethers, that energy is there,

1626
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,199
and it stays there. It doesn't just dissiplate you're putting

1627
01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:24,600
out that. You use that creative force and making it

1628
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,840
negative or violate whatever that's going to feed people. I

1629
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,439
really do believe that. So you want to wa you

1630
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,880
have gun violence, you wonder buy people are negative because

1631
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,840
we're feeding it. We're feeding that. And I just get

1632
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,279
a sense and this is such a responsibility with what

1633
01:12:37,399 --> 01:12:39,880
you put out to the public, whether it's through social media,

1634
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,680
whether it's through movie is a television, there's a responsibility

1635
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,279
about it. And people got to understand that.

1636
01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, without I agree with you one hundred and ten percent.

1637
01:12:49,119 --> 01:12:51,479
I the fear that gets pumped out by the media,

1638
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,079
because when you're in fear, you buy more and all

1639
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:56,520
that kind of stuff. I get that, and there's I

1640
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,319
think people are starting to wake up to it. The

1641
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,279
numbers of this show are starting to say that because

1642
01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:05,840
there's we talk about millions so far and hopefully tens

1643
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,520
of millions, hundreds of millions, maybe billions one day of

1644
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,560
people who were to try to get this kind of

1645
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,640
information out there in this big way. It is changing,

1646
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,920
and I think people are starting to figure things out

1647
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,960
on a very instinctual soul level. They're just like, that

1648
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,520
doesn't make sense for me. I don't want that anymore.

1649
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,479
But you could already start seeing the crumblings of the

1650
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,800
old system where the networks, the news or they're just

1651
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,199
not getting the numbers anymore that they used to. Where

1652
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:42,000
there's YouTubers who are getting one hundred million views on

1653
01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:45,560
an episode. Can you imagine that in network television or

1654
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,119
even as streamers you start people are starting to figure

1655
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:50,840
things out, and I think it's where everything is going

1656
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,560
to go. I have to ask you question.

1657
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: Along with that is the responsibility that they have with

1658
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,640
that they have a big responsibility. That's about how many

1659
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,680
people you can get on your page. It's the end

1660
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,039
thing why you're putting out there. Yeah, absolutely what you're

1661
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,399
putting out there. So let's talk a little bit, James,

1662
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,560
about the future of where we're all going. Now, this

1663
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,680
is one aspect of things, and I know you know,

1664
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,199
I've had other people come on the show and talk

1665
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:16,840
about what they see for humanity, where we are all going.

1666
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,279
We are going through this big shift human shift. The

1667
01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:22,199
first question I want to ask you is what part

1668
01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:27,239
do you believe the work of mediums, of channels, of

1669
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:30,640
the spiritual ideas that we're talking about in this episod

1670
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,399
What effect is that going to have? And what is

1671
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,720
the future of those.

1672
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: Things are channel is going to be the next and

1673
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,560
medium is going to be the next kind of like

1674
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,159
people will be respected and feel like doctors and lawyers are. Now,

1675
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,199
where do you see all of this going?

1676
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: I would hope some of the quality is always a question, right,

1677
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,279
But that's.

1678
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: Also with doctors and lawyers are That's also with doctors

1679
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,359
and lawyers.

1680
01:14:52,039 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: Too, my friend, Yes, you have every single that's exactly right,

1681
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,199
you know, from my point of view, to me, the world.

1682
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,319
Most of the world are sleep Most people are asleep,

1683
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:05,439
they're a sleepwalking like. Only three percent are conscious. Only

1684
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,199
three percent of the world is awake three percent. That's

1685
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:11,800
a very small amount, three percent of the entire world.

1686
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:15,239
I mean ninety seven percent of sleeping. They're sleepwalkers. So

1687
01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:17,520
we have to awake them up. And shows like yours

1688
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,640
and shows like mine and schools like mine do that.

1689
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,840
They touch on a certain nerve, a certain sense, a

1690
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,760
certain sole part of that soul, they'll open them up.

1691
01:15:26,079 --> 01:15:28,119
And I think that's going to happen. I think more

1692
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:30,399
and more when there are shows like yours and more

1693
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,359
spiritual work out there that's not threatening to people, that's

1694
01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:38,479
really assuring people. And if mediumship has done the right way,

1695
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,359
you know, an inequality and a responsible way. I think

1696
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,560
people tend to see a connection, a connection that while

1697
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,880
this is real and that there's more to life than

1698
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,039
just this physical world. I think that's the number one thing.

1699
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,000
The first thing is to realize there is no there's

1700
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,199
no death, and that's my work from day one, is

1701
01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:57,560
to teach people they're too greate.

1702
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,119
Speaker 1: A solution. We have this physical world.

1703
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: Number one separatetiveness, No one's separate we're together, but we

1704
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,680
want to be. It's the world teaches the separat of

1705
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,680
the solution. The second thing is death. There is no

1706
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,560
such thing as death. You can't die for the best

1707
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,000
to you. You just can't die or energy. You don't die.

1708
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:13,439
You just slough off the physical, which is painless and

1709
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,159
many respects. Leaning up to it. Might be hard with

1710
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,560
the disease, but there are medications for that to get

1711
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,000
you out. And I totally you know, the spirit people

1712
01:16:22,039 --> 01:16:25,560
have inspired those scientists to come up to invent that

1713
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,000
those medications. They have been first in the spirit world

1714
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:31,039
and they're slowly brought down to the physical world. So

1715
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,880
I think it's a matter of number one, educating the

1716
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,199
public that there's more to this than just this physical

1717
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:39,279
world and that people and I think mediumship is doing that.

1718
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,399
I think shows like yours are doing that that help

1719
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,800
people to realize there so much more. Number Two, I

1720
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,039
think that become connected with their power, with themselves, learn

1721
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:49,319
who they are and go back in and not pay

1722
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:51,840
attention to what people say about them on the social media.

1723
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,319
And I get so caught up in that. But people

1724
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:56,760
are saying and doing you know, Kim Kardassian, who I

1725
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,279
did read from many years ago before she was King Brdascian.

1726
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,079
There's a responsibility she has and she had and I

1727
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:04,840
you know, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna blame people,

1728
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,319
but you know, when you're out in the media that way,

1729
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:09,840
there's a responsibility and you got to be careful because

1730
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,960
it'll it'll back, it'll bite you, it'll bite you if

1731
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,359
you're not careful. And I just hope that people do

1732
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:18,279
things more of the conscious way how they're affecting other people.

1733
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,800
I think it's a slow, slowly moving but in some

1734
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,079
ways it isn't because I started in the eighties and listen,

1735
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:26,399
when I was doing I was the only one out

1736
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:27,760
there doing this, and.

1737
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,399
Speaker 1: Now now it's very very popular.

1738
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: I was using a funny thing. It's like, well, remember.

1739
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:34,279
Speaker 1: When herb tea started, O the herb tea?

1740
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:35,239
Speaker 2: You drink herb tea.

1741
01:17:35,279 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: That's so weird herb tea.

1742
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,119
Speaker 2: And now we're like just now right, So that's what

1743
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,319
And that was relatively quickly. So that's only in thirty years,

1744
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:44,640
the herb tea thing. That's pretty fast when you think

1745
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,000
about it. So I do have hope that things will

1746
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,239
be changing, and I think much quicker Alex. I think

1747
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,359
once people get it there, oh and they catch up,

1748
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,399
they catch up. My feeling is they catch up and

1749
01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:56,279
they start moving. So I would think by the next

1750
01:17:56,279 --> 01:17:59,279
like twenty twenty five, hopefully there'll be another sense of

1751
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,000
that a so awareness and self knowledge. I think in

1752
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:05,520
some ways, wars negative things, and people have had enough

1753
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,640
of it, whether it's the COVID or the wars, or

1754
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,000
people are tired of that. They want something else, want

1755
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:12,000
something new. So in a way it forces them to

1756
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,439
look within themselves and to question, see what's what's what

1757
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,520
else is there?

1758
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,119
Speaker 1: What else is there?

1759
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: Conspience to make me feel better? So I think it's

1760
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,720
going to force us to have a sense of who

1761
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,119
we are, get back to our soul self and go

1762
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:25,119
back inside, not outside. I'm here to validate yourself, but

1763
01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:27,239
inside ourselves. And I think that's going to happen.

1764
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,399
Speaker 1: Now do you do you believe that we are heading

1765
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,199
in a direction that as a as a species, as

1766
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:40,159
a human consciousness, are we heading in a positive or

1767
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:42,079
what is this? At better question? What does the spirit

1768
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:44,319
world have to say about where we're heading?

1769
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: As it's it's funny because they don't judge, it's there's

1770
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,920
no judgment, So we can't say positive or negative. It's

1771
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,159
just it is what it is, because that's right, that soul,

1772
01:18:53,159 --> 01:18:53,479
that is.

1773
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,199
Speaker 1: Just an experience.

1774
01:18:54,199 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: There's really just experiences as experiences of loving oneself, of

1775
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,079
loving another, and that's really what it's about, loving oneself

1776
01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:03,720
and loving other and not judgment. Judgment again is fear based.

1777
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,760
Like I said earlier, it's very interesting because you know,

1778
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,479
we have the hoth the trans thing now, and you

1779
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,319
have one thing I'm not so comfortable still with is

1780
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:13,359
a pronoun thing. Because I'm an author of the best

1781
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:14,920
selling author, I had a lot of trouble with the

1782
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,399
grammar thing, so I get that. So I don't want

1783
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,920
to judge that. But I want to say everybody is God,

1784
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:23,960
no matter who they are, and the diversification is what

1785
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:26,159
makes God. God has all these different sparkles, all of

1786
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:28,560
the lights in all different ways, so we can't judge

1787
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,039
another's experience. I think if everybody just didn't hurt anyone else,

1788
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,000
it'll be fine. They be who you are, do what

1789
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,399
you want to do, as long as you don't hurt people.

1790
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,239
That's the key right there, and I think that more

1791
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:40,640
and more that's going to happen.

1792
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,039
Speaker 1: I think more and more.

1793
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: I just think we're at a point now extremism with

1794
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,199
religion and politics and trying to control those people's rights

1795
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:51,399
because this country is based on a freedom of rights,

1796
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,039
and that's that's waning, and it's because but I don't

1797
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:56,600
think that's going to stay. I think people are going

1798
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,199
to be fed up with that. You know, we're O V.

1799
01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:01,319
Wade the whole thing. You know, it's so amazing to

1800
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:04,520
me that the you know, people fighting abortion, abortion, but

1801
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,199
yet it's okay to killing eight year old with the

1802
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:09,880
seming automatic gun. What about that? It doesn't work, It

1803
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:10,439
doesn't work.

1804
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: You can't have it all, I mean one of the

1805
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,800
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1806
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:21,520
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1807
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,359
Speaker 2: So I think that's it's forcing people to change, to

1808
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:28,359
look at things a different way. I think it also

1809
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:34,560
back to self, learning about self and just really loving

1810
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,039
appreciating self and each other. That we're all connected, we're

1811
01:20:37,039 --> 01:20:37,520
not separate.

1812
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:38,199
Speaker 1: We're one.

1813
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,399
Speaker 2: We are one. I'm the present nurturing energy. We're one.

1814
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: Do you see the new generations being born now completely

1815
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,600
differently than the energations that your generation or my generation is.

1816
01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:54,279
I mean they come here, your dad, Come on, Yeah,

1817
01:20:54,319 --> 01:20:56,960
these dark kids are everywhere. Come on, star seeds are everywhere.

1818
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,640
I mean, I mean, it's amazingly.

1819
01:20:58,319 --> 01:21:01,359
Speaker 2: Different, amazing you know what. So you just talk about

1820
01:21:01,359 --> 01:21:04,039
there on the spectrum, Well, they're way beyond us. So

1821
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:07,359
advanced species coming in totally. And I thought about this

1822
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:09,319
morning actually a friend of mine, because she told me

1823
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,600
one of our people in our life kids, what are

1824
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,800
the spectrums like, Well, they're the ones that are teaching

1825
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,840
us there. It's such an advanced age. And I say, personally,

1826
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,319
I can't relate to technology. I'm not a technical.

1827
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: Person, more creative.

1828
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 2: So every password I put in every day I have

1829
01:21:23,359 --> 01:21:26,119
under that freaking password. But it's like, it's these beings

1830
01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:28,359
are coming in now that can handle all that technology,

1831
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:32,439
waves of these souls, waves of these technical souls that

1832
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,039
know all that, and that I know that there's this

1833
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,840
place and time and space and time and in physical vibration.

1834
01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:40,600
These beings, these what do you call them?

1835
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: Evolved?

1836
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,039
Speaker 2: They don't like to judge, right, but these beings from

1837
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:46,359
other species, other star systems are coming in, no doubt

1838
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:48,840
about it, and changing things up and working with the

1839
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,319
technologies and being aware of that. No doubt about it.

1840
01:21:51,399 --> 01:21:54,079
So we're evolving. If you will, I believe that's would

1841
01:21:54,119 --> 01:21:56,840
be true. So we do know it as a free will.

1842
01:21:57,359 --> 01:22:00,319
Speaker 1: That's very true. And I just love to hear yourinion

1843
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:03,680
on ascended masters. I mean in your work, have you

1844
01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:05,600
have you come across.

1845
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Any I'm looking at one right now, Well, please elaborate

1846
01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:13,000
like this. Hello.

1847
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:17,159
Speaker 1: Well it's interesting.

1848
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,039
Speaker 2: It's an interesting concept because people, many people, and I

1849
01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:22,880
understand they say, what's my guide's name? It's like, what's

1850
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:23,319
your guide?

1851
01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Bruce Bruce?

1852
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 2: His name is Bruce Bruce, Bruce. It's putting such a

1853
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,520
human trait to something, that human trade to it. So

1854
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,600
it's it's putting that limitation on that. And and so

1855
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:35,920
you know, there are many levels and species and levels

1856
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,560
of being. So we talked about ascended masters or ange

1857
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:43,680
angelic beings or different levels of awareness. It's just evolvement.

1858
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,560
And I think they're those those beings who I think

1859
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,800
there are many ascended masters. I think there are many species.

1860
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,680
I mean I remember, as first developing my abilities in

1861
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,920
sitting in development circle, I used to these beings becomes

1862
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,800
me and we would call them aliens because you call

1863
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,760
them aliens, and they're the most evolve beings. I'd have

1864
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,199
been around. And I remember I was in Sedona, Arizona

1865
01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:05,000
once and I brought a group out there to see

1866
01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:07,359
UFOs because that was the place of the UFOs. And

1867
01:23:07,399 --> 01:23:08,800
we got out there, and I remember it was ten

1868
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,439
o'clock on a Saturday night, and the man who was

1869
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,319
helping me run this said, well, nothing's going and said

1870
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,359
we got to hopefully see these people are here. And

1871
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:20,560
I heard of words in my head say you need

1872
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to meditate, you need to raise your vibration. So we

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don't meditate to raise a vibration. And then I walked

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out to the middle of the field and all these

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lights were around. It was the TV tower. Lights looked

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like and these are UFOs. We call you fhoes. And

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I remember hearing very very clearly, not only hearing, but

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feeling that this energy had to really slowed themselves down,

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really lower themselves down. It's like this, like a seven

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forty seven in the eye of a needle. They didn't

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really slow themselves down. And I heard them say, we're

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from the Platees and we do not understand one thing.

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Your human beings have the energy of love all around you,

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yet you don't use it. Why is that? Oh shit,

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and that makes sense. It's all around us. Why can't

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we use love? So that's that's what it is, sending masters.

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You know, I don't put names or labels on it,

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but beings who are evolved beings who just are those

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evolved beings that have been through ups and downs, all

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arounds and teachings and philosophy and beyond our awareness if

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you will. But I think they just I think our

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higher selves are connected with those And the more we

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can bring in the energy from a higher self, that awareness,

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then that's the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Where were light beings?

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Speaker 2: We have to be illumined, naughty, We have to be

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that illuminus, the illuminus. So we got to be the

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ones show people the light, the light. The darkness opens

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up to light, and we got to bring that light out.

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Speaker 1: Now, James, I could talk to you for another four

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or five hours, but I'm going to ask you a

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few questions to ask all of my guests.

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Speaker 2: What is your definition of living a fulfilled life? If

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I can look back at my life at the end

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of my life, when I look back at the life

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and I see the earth is a better place than

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it was when I first got here. That's the ulfilled life.

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Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time

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and talk to little James, what advice would you give him?

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Speaker 2: I'd probably go back and say, believe in yourself even more.

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How do you define God, everything and everyone?

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 2: Love?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful? And where can people find out more about you

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and the amazing work you're doing for the world.

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Speaker 2: I have took places. I have a school online it's

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called the JVP School Mystical Arts dot com. And then

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I have a website with my last name van Prague

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dot com. V A N P r A A g

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h dot com. That's how I remember who it is

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my last name. And then of course my book Talking

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to Heaven, and I've written fourteen different books, but that's

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on Amazon. But yeah, that's the best way we can

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have our community together.

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Speaker 1: And do you have any parting messages or does the

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spirit world have any parting messages for the audience? You know,

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use love and.

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Speaker 2: Everything you do. See you know, I remember that every

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day on your path you have a teacher or a student,

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and be accordingly and treat others as you want to

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be treated. And that's all I can say James, it

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has been a pleasure speaking to you.

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Speaker 1: We have to have you back. You are a joy.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to come back. You're great to speak with you. Really,

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it's rare that it gets someone whose intelligence and aware

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of this level that we can, you know, understand these things.

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It's nice conversation, you know, so thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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