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the studio to tell a mama. So anyway, welcome to
here by Horror Stories. How the heck are you today?
Long time long here, huh? I don't have a lot
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and beyond are you liking that? I know a lot
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enjoying this stuff. So I'm glad to hear that. I
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rainy day down here in Texas today. It is currently
June fourteenth, and we'll get some good, good heavy rain.
I know my banana plants are going to soak it up.
Get me some good, delicious bananas this year, that would
be wonderful. On this episode, Jerry and Tracy talk about
the Hickory Hill and Illinois, Oh modeled stamping grounds by
the way, anyway, They talked about the Old Hickory Hill
in the Illinois are better known as the Old Slave
House and Huntsville, Alabama's Dead Children Playground. A personal greeting
from Bobby Mackie from Bobby Mackie's Music World and the
most haunted nightclub in America. Enjoy y'all, take care of
each other and have a great week.
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Horror Stories. I'm Jerry.
Speaker 7: Hey guys, how you doing Okay?
Speaker 2: I think you sill say I'm Tracy. There, let's try
that again. I'm Jerry.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm Tracy. Sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: We have had a really fun weekend. Yeah, but we're
also running on fumes, which we've had very little sleep,
lots of work, and lots of fun. So we actually
had Jackie Getz and her friend Wendy and I'm not
going to try to pronounce her last name because I'm
gonna butcher it. But they came down from Wisconsin, so
they drove eight hours to hang out with us for
a while.
Speaker 7: Well, no, that just blows my mind.
Speaker 2: And we tried to make the most of it, so
we did. We they had him over to our house
for a little home cooked dinner and then we went.
Speaker 7: To Bobby Mackey.
Speaker 2: We went to Bobby Mackey's last night and spent some
time about an hour and twenty minutes away from us,
or so did some They went to a German restaurant
and had a little girls stay out. I met up
with him at Bobby Mackey's. We did a tour. We
got to meet Bobby Mackey. He did a little audio
force that we're gonna throw on here a little.
Speaker 7: He was so little bit later nice and on our.
Speaker 2: Group page and Facebook page, I actually posted some video
of the tour where we were the mark our tour guide,
who was awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was good.
Speaker 2: He was talking about the haunted Well or the you know,
the what they call it, the whole way to Hell?
Speaker 6: Hell?
Speaker 2: Hell?
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 2: I said, the whole way to Hell. No, it's actually
supposed to be a gateway to hell.
Speaker 7: And uh, there was a gateway to heaven, or there
was a gateway to he was a stairway to heaven. Oh,
a stairway to heaven and a gateway to Hell.
Speaker 2: But anyway, long and short of it is he toldal
it a lot better than we do. So he was
telling the story. So I got to film some of
that and it took some film of the well and stuff.
So that's on our Facebook page and our group page.
Speaker 7: So, I mean, I'm telling you, is creepiest crap down there.
Speaker 2: It certainly is. And we had some cool stuff like
when we started, there's there's a room that they call
the Room of Faces. And when you go in there,
it's like concrete walls, but there's all these images that
look you know, it's just darker spots lighter spots, but
some of them look like faces as they do.
Speaker 7: And it's animals. I mean, man, that's the coolest thing there,
I thought.
Speaker 2: And Jackie's a vegetarian, so she didn't see animals. She
saw a lot of vegetables. She said, that looks just
like a carrot, and that one was like a cucumber.
And I'm like, no, that's nowhere near. But now there's
a but there's a little room in before you get
to that room. It's like a connector room. So you
got a big room that we told some stories in
and then there's a little room you walk into, and
then you walk into this Room of Faces. And that
little middle room just felt extremely weird. And the young
ladies that we were with kept talking about how you know,
they're really sensitive, so they kept picking up on things.
So they kept taking all these pictures. And Wendy, who
was with us, her picture, she kept trying to take
pictures and it wouldn't take. They it's like she kept
hitting the button and it wouldn't take the picture, and
then we got into the room and faces and it
all of a sudden would work. So she went back
in and took a bunch of pictures and we were
looking at them and had orbs and all that stuff.
And then this morning when we got up, none of
her pictures were on her phone.
Speaker 7: That's the craziest thing. She wasn't the only one. There
was another young lady and there that couldn't get hers
to take pictures either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jackie took pictures in that room, and hers
wouldn't on the phone this morning either, So and it
was just that room. Yeah. Yeah, it's a really cool,
really cool it is.
Speaker 7: It's very cool place, I mean literally cool.
Speaker 2: I was freezing, but yeah, it was cold because there's
we were in basically a basement and outside and it
was raining and snowing and basically twenty eight degrees outside.
So yeah, it was a little chilly. But I was
the only one that was practically dressed. There was women
out there that took the tour that were in just like,
you know, a really sheer shirt with no sleeves, and
I'm like, uh, probably wore something a little different. That's
what they get so real quick. Just want to say
a huge thank you to Jackie and yeah, Wendy for
coming down. I mean, like Tracy said, I can't believe
somebody would actually want to drive eight hours to just
spend the weekend with us.
Speaker 7: And it was a blast.
Speaker 2: And then she did that for her birthday, so we
got her little birthday cake and got her a card
and it was they were fun to hang out with.
Speaker 7: It sure was, man, it was a blast.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, real quick. I want to say
a happy birthday to my daughter Amber, who's twenty.
Speaker 7: Faturday birthday, am babamba.
Speaker 2: And I also want to say a happy birthday to
Jillie Gilder. She's one of our listeners over in England. She's,
if not the biggest fan we got. She's right there.
I mean, she's an absolute sweetheart.
Speaker 7: She is Happy birthday, sweetheart.
Speaker 2: We love yeah, And I told her I wanted to
get her a special birthday over there. That keeps me
from having to buy gift, not really, but at the
same time, there's no gift on the way, so don't
take that as there's a gift coming. Oh.
Speaker 7: We sent our love. We do.
Speaker 2: We send our love and the shipping wouldn't so high
to England. There might be something else, but right now,
loves costing us seven dollars a ship.
Speaker 8: Here right is wrong with you.
Speaker 2: So we want to start off as we usually do,
say thank you to all of our servicemen all over
the world, no matter what country you represent, all of
your fireman, firefighters, ambulance drivers, you guys mean the world
to everybody out there. We would not be able to
live our life the way we.
Speaker 7: Do without you guys, So thank you, God bless every
one of you.
Speaker 2: iTunes reviews we had fifteen this week. Oh my lord, absolutely,
so let's jump into them. Sarah Teremy Lindsay nineteen eighty nine,
Smashly eleven, Marshalled DRP for fifty, Jess and Goobs Postman
Rings twice. Thank you for your horrible review and saying
Tracy shouldn't be on the show, Sarah without an h
Steven XM. Smith's Smithy O Height, Mealers uh Us Rower
seventy five, Joey, sp Aby and Babbitt ninety one seventy two.
Speaker 7: You guys, that is amazing. I just kept looking and
I'm like, oh my god. Every day we got a
new Reviewoo. Yeah, it's so excited.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We also had some new Patreon support.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, thank you guys.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that. Keeps climbing. Thank you so much for
everything you do. I'm gonna probably butcher the last name,
but I'm gonna try Robin van Dourson. That sounds right,
Teresa Cox, Sarah Hernandez. I like how you think it
sounds right when you have no brook.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at it upside down and I think it
looks perfect. Thank you, guys. You are amazing and we
really appreciate you all so much. Thank you for taking
your time and money and all that fun stuff listening
to us. So we love you.
Speaker 8: Guys.
Speaker 2: Keep spreading the word, keep the itune reviews up because
that really helps us. Like I said, we completely understand
that not everybody can donate to the show. Financial times
are tough for a lot of people, and you know
we appreciate those who do. If you can't, if you
can least leave a review, that helps us tremendously.
Speaker 7: So it sure does, and I do love them. I'm
like supposed to be working and I'm actually like reading them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm supposed to be working. And I'm actually working.
Speaker 7: So we'll see I got a better job than you do.
Speaker 2: Yes, you do. But somehow or other, we were able
to put out a very cool Patreon show that a
lot of people have enjoyed. And I don't remember what
it was on now was it on? You remember?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's pretty sad.
Speaker 7: Stupid guy.
Speaker 2: What stupid guy?
Speaker 7: The guy that was?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Moonlight Murders. We did the text our
can of Moonlight Murders that came out on what Tuesday, Thursday?
I don't know. It came out the fifteenth, after Valentine's Days,
so came out Thursday.
Speaker 7: But I still don't like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a week.
Speaker 7: I don't like him.
Speaker 2: You don't even know for sure who it is. How
do you not even know.
Speaker 7: Who likes I don't like none of these people. No,
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: But we came up with a couple of cool stories tonight,
you though, every once in a while I love to
dig into the stories that not everybody knows. One of
these stories is a little more popular than the other,
but it's still a vaguely unknown story, and that's the
one we're going to start with. It's a little bit
shorter story, but I want to start with that one. Okay,
did you have anything you wanted to add before we
jump into this?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll take that as a no. Oh. Also, remember that
later in the show, we have the contest that Hillbilly
Horror Show is running, and remember we played part of
it last week. You had to answer the question of
what the number one rule of the trailer was. We
actually had somebody who's already gotten that right, and the
contest is going to end after people. So yeah, the
gentleman already knew he answered on Twitter. So we're going
to play that a little bit later and then you can.
You're going to play it in full, so you actually
have the answer, and then all you got to do
is respond on Twitter. I will retweet it and send
it over to the guys with Hillbilly Horror Show. They're
going to pick a winner, and that winner will get
Bowl from Hillbilly Horseshow you've already called in a bunch
of times, you will get him to actually do your
personal voice message, so when somebody all in and get
your voicemail, they will give Bowl doing a personal last
message for you. So that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 7: That's gonna be very cool. We also have Jackie did
a little sit in with us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Jackie and Wendy when they came in, we set
them down and actually talked a little bit. Wendy shared
some of her paranormal stories and we had some fun
since we had him in person. Jackie's been on the
Personal Stories episodes that we do for Patreons, so she's
actually been on our twice. So it was kind of
cool to sit down and talk to both of them
and have a little fun. And we're going to put
that at the end of the episode so you can
kind of tune in and just have some fun with us. Yeah,
it'd be like you was right here. So before we
jump into this story, I wanted to play that little
clip from Bobby Mackey real quick. Okay, hey guys, it's
Jerry Wood. He'll be the Horror Stories and I'm actually
sitting in with a legend in the paranormal world, mister
Bobby Mackee, who is the owner of Bobby and Mackie's.
He's a world the most haunted nightclub in the United States. Bobby,
can you say a big hat all the fans out
there that absolutely love you and Hippolye for Orland.
Speaker 7: If both Somebody and Mick and Hear and Wilder Katakie
and we want to say that a blow to all
of our paranormal fans out there.
Speaker 2: So how cool was he?
Speaker 7: Hey, I'll tell you what. He's a real gentleman. He's
fun to watch on stage. I think his voice is
still amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's like seventy years old.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's just a really fun time. And it's
really cool because he has all his guys that's played
with him for years and years still with him, which
is amazing. And he was just really kind and very
excited to do that for us, and I think that
was really amazing.
Speaker 2: He was There's a couple of guys in the band
that I think may be deceased, and nobody's told him.
I'm just saying they're kind of there's a couple of
them that looked like that Riga mortis has set in,
maybe at least a year ago.
Speaker 7: Won't you feel bad? What if he listened to our
show and you said that, I.
Speaker 2: Think we're okay. Oh, I don't think he's gonna be listening.
But no, they're all super nice. I'm just saying that,
you know, you probably shouldn't be playing base with you're
one hundred and thirty seven years old. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Stop it. They're not that old. They rocked out just
like the young guys did.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get started on this first story.
I'm not gonna tell you what the story is. I'm
gonna tell you the story, but I'm not gonna tell
you what it's about. We'll get to it because it'll
be better that way. So we're gonna start off. This
story is in Huntsville, Alabama. So three Alabama stories in
a row.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Huntsville, Alabama. There's a cemetery called the Maple Hills Cemetery.
We're gonna talk about the cemetery, get into that a
little bit, but the cemetery is not the focal point
of the story, I believe it or not. So here's
some some a little bit of the background on Maple
Hill in Alabama. It's the largest cemetery in Alabama. First
of all, there's over eight eighty thousand no burials there.
Speaker 7: How is that possible?
Speaker 2: I just said it's the largest one in Alabama.
Speaker 7: I know, But that's a lot of dag on people.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're probably stacking them on top of each other.
I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 7: Well, I guess you have to.
Speaker 2: That just sounds like there's no sensing going six feet
down all the time. It's just crazy talk.
Speaker 7: That sounds like a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know why to go six feet down anyway.
That seems deep. If you went out like with a
spoon and stuff and was digging in the backyard, what's
the most you're gonna dig a foot?
Speaker 7: Okay, well, nobody's gonna dig with a spoon. I mean
unless you're four years old.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's kind of what I was thinking.
I wouldn't talking about adults running out there with spoons.
I'm just saying, well, kids come to the cemetery. Maybe
they're just sitting around board or something. They start digging
up stuff with spoon. I don't know what goes on it.
Speaker 7: Somemore, you need to try to come up with something better,
because that.
Speaker 2: Is not working for me anyways. I just take six
feet's a little too deep. I think they could probably
go fourth frost.
Speaker 7: I should they do it because of maybe flooding or something.
Maybe you know what I'm saying maybe if physic is
d what we.
Speaker 2: Need to do is get a funeral director on the phone,
but we didn't do probably not. He may though anyways.
So the original cemetery was actually sold to the city
from a guy named Leroy Pope in eighteen twenty two,
so he had he owned that plot of land and
he sold it to him, and it must have been
used as a cemetery before that because he sold it
to him in eighteen twenty two. But the oldest burial
that actually goes back to eighteen twenty It was an
infant by the name of Mary Francis and Edwood, so
it was two years before that, so somebody there, at
least that person was buried on the before that. Yeah,
it was later actually expanded and it included the pope
family private cemetery that they had, so he must have
sold him some more land, or at least some of
the popes did. And most of the new burials at
this time were actually Confederate and Union soldiers from the
Civil War. So over the years the cemetery actually grew
bigger by them purchasing surrounding land around it. In nineteen
oh one, the cemetery actually got its official name of
Maple Hill. Before that, it was known as just the
burial ground.
Speaker 7: Well, I like Maple Hill a whole lot better.
Speaker 2: Still, ever, growing the cemetery needed more space, and in
two thousand and seven it actually tried to purchase and
take over a little park that's next to the cemetery.
The official name of the park was Maple Hill Park.
Some call it Dross Park. Most call it the Dead
Children's Playground. Oh wow, and that is the focus of
our story. O.
Speaker 7: The playground is oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So the city actually removed all the swings and the
slides that were there, and the locals threw a big fit.
They didn't like it. They loved their Dead Children's playground.
And we'll get into more while a little bit wild.
But the outlash was actually so much that the city
replaced the playground equipment with brand new equipment. So they
went from we're going to take over the park and
take all the stuff. So they replaced it and made
it nicer and put brand new equipment in there.
Speaker 7: Now what that's confusing? I mean, did they think that
the put new playground stuff in there it was going
to make the ghost go?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess because they already pulled. I mean, that
wouldn't why they were getting rid of it. They needed
the space to put more dead bodies. Oh so they
were trying to use it to expand the cemetery.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, well I'm sorry I missed it.
Speaker 2: That's right. I love you, I love you. So I
guess the first question would be why is there a
playground next to the cemetery? Yeah, kids get bored, and
people assume that the thought process was, you're at this
giant cemetery. There's all these old stones and stuff, and
if you're like a four or five year old kid,
you don't have a concept of death, and you don't
know that those are dead people underneath of you. You
just know there's a bunch of cool looking rocks. Yeah,
you know. So there's a playground right there, so the
kids could actually while their service was going on or
a funeral was going on, that the kids could actually
go over and play the playground and not be involved
in that. So that's the thought process on why it
was put there. From my understanding, there's no real reason
behind it, but that's what the people who live there
think that.
Speaker 7: The reason will I mean, can I see that. I
can see that.
Speaker 2: Some people actually will tell you that it's actually part
of the cemetery, like it's you'll read stuff that says
it's like smack dab in the middle of the cemetery.
It's not. It's not part of the cemetery. That's why
the cemetery was trying to buy it. If it was
part of the cemetery, it would have just you know,
consumed it if they wanted to, of course. But no,
it's at the end of the cemetery adjacent there's a
road you can get to it without having to you know,
actually go into the cemetery at all. So it's not
it's on the outskirt of the cemetery. Now, all the
kids that play at this playground, though, are not alive.
We'll say this playground is a hot spot for paranormal
activity now most say from ten pm to three am.
The dead children actually reclaimed the park from the living
and now it's their park to that kind of time.
So over the years, many curious people have actually made
the trek down that long dark road we was telling
you about to the dead Children's playground and they actually
are hoping like we did last night, to experience some
type of paranormal activity, and several people over the years
have experienced some stuff good.
Speaker 7: That's good.
Speaker 2: So visitors have actually experienced a high level of ghostly
activity at the park, especially at night time. As we
talked about from those times. Even people who have no
idea that the park's history or know anything about it
being haunted, they said that when they get there, there's
just an eeriness that comes over you. Something just doesn't
sit right about that. So some of the experiences that
people who have actually had to there is they hear
the sights and sounds of children playing, which you would
expect children calling out to each other, but they also
hear mothers calling out for their children. So I don't
know where the mother sounds come from unless it's just
mothers just passed on the maybe you lost kids. They
also hear the sound of running children, you know, like
a payground. So the consensus is that most of the
children come from the adjacent cemetery right next door. That
would make sense, right with so many people buried there,
you would think that would be the number one choice.
But there actually is another theory. The story may actually
be a little bit urban legend, mixed in, but there's
definitely a lot of truth mixed into the story. So
between nineteen forty five and fifty five, and we'll give
you some background on where the park sits. Between forty
five and nineteen fifty five, the area that the playground
is right now was a limestone quarry. Oh okay, and
so it's got like these high cliffs that surround the
park and those aren't naturally made. That's just from the
process of digging out the quarry. It's basically, I guess
it's sitting in a hole, is what it boils down to.
Speaker 7: Sit, and.
Speaker 2: They're just storing back there.
Speaker 7: Sorry, guess.
Speaker 2: So when the quarry was actually closed, the grass kind
of started to grow back, Trees started to grow back,
a bunch of weeds, wildlife actually started returning, right But
in a matter of years the thing was overrun with
weeds and brush and tall grass.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was just sad.
Speaker 2: It was a mess. And in the nineteen sixties there
was an unknown person who used this area kind of
as their personal dumping ground for abductive children. No way,
So there was a series of children back then that
just disappeared. And all this was in the Huntsville area. Right, So,
all these reports are coming up about these missing kids
and none that these kids were turning up, So it
was obviously feared that there was some type of a
child murderer or something in the area that was kind
of loose in Huntsville. Unfortunately, that fear became a reality
when somebody walking through the abandoned quarry actually found a
small skull. Police were called in. Several small skeletons were
then found, along with some small corpses from fresher murders.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: They never found out the identity of the murderer, but
what they did determine is that these kids were tortured
and killed. They showed signs of being held captive for
a very long time. They had been starved to death,
They were partially healed wounds on that were found on
some of the bodies that were more recent where they
could actually see that once they discovered the bodies, the
disappearance has stopped. Many of the children were buried right
next door at Maple Hill. Yeah, in nineteen eighty five.
Twenty years later after all this happened, the quarry and
the surrounding land was turned into a park.
Speaker 7: So what kind of Siko does that stuff? How could
you do that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. If there's plenty of them out there,
and there's been proof of several of them, that's break
somebody who has some kind of mental issues like that,
they don't think normal, so there's no way to even
rationally try it.
Speaker 7: They would do that. But well, I mean, it's such
a sad story. But I'm glad that the kids were
playing together, you know, so that I mean, you gotta
find some happiness out of that somewhere.
Speaker 2: So the question is who are you hearing at the park?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Theoretically a lot of those kids were buried over next door,
so that the first assumption is still right, it's still
a lot of kids over there. But are you only
hearing the kids that were dumped there, or are you
hearing a mixture of kids from the cemetery that had
nothing to do with that.
Speaker 6: I bet you are.
Speaker 7: I bet it's a mixture of kids.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: And when you think about the parents, they said there's
voices of parents calling out for their kids. That would
seem probably to indicate like the kids that were abducted
and their parents may be out looking for them.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's heart wrenching. You know, well, I hope the
poor babies. I hope they played together with each other
and they're in a better place and happy. And this
is terrible. That's terrible.
Speaker 2: It's horrible. With that being said, let's try to win.
And the voicemail from bowl, Oh my god, that's not
a good transition.
Speaker 7: No, I'm still I'm still like, I'm still hurting.
Speaker 2: I understand these kids died fifty years ago, so there's
nothing we can do about it now, all right, So
I'm gonna play that. I'm gonna play this little clip.
This clip. It will give you the entire answer to
what the number one rule of the trailer is. The
whole entire answer. And when you hear it, feel free
to send a message on Twitter He'll Billy Horror Show
or He'll Billy Horror Story. On Twitter. You can send
it to He'll Billy Horror Show.
Speaker 7: Don't you think Twitter is a funny word.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
Speaker 7: Let me just think about Twitter this thing though. I
don't think it's funny. I just think it's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's hilarious. Hey, let me Twitter, you please, don't.
Last time we did the voices, we got nasty reviews
about how we're insensitive to people. Oh I don't know
how that would be, but somebody will.
Speaker 7: Oh well, dag on, we got twitter over here.
Speaker 2: Sorry to all of our Brits listeners.
Speaker 7: Oh I love you guys. I wish you would just
call and talk to me like every day, like seriously,
I love your all's accents.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's listen real quick to bowl tell
us what the number one rule of the trailer is?
Speaker 8: Boo, I done told you to fix that door at
least one hundred times. Now I won't even open.
Speaker 2: Little darling.
Speaker 9: What is the number one rule of the trailer?
Speaker 7: Come on, you know this.
Speaker 6: If it ain't brown, you ain't got to put the
tools he down.
Speaker 5: That is rule number two.
Speaker 2: Come on, you can win and use toaster of him.
Speaker 8: If you got a cold beer in hand, you ain't.
Speaker 6: Got room for no tools.
Speaker 7: Thing.
Speaker 2: Go all right. So the answer is, in case you
missed it, if you've got a cold beer in hand,
you ain't got room for no tools.
Speaker 7: So that's the typical saying. I kind of dig that
a little bit.
Speaker 2: That is the number one rule of the trailer. Yeah, well,
in the South we.
Speaker 6: All know that.
Speaker 7: Well, that's very true.
Speaker 2: That's very true. So we've got the second story. The
second story is going to be very disturbing. Oh man,
I know we get a lie of that recently. But
it's it's like I said, it's it's a story I've
just recently become accustomed to. So it's not the most
popular story out there, but I found it very fascinating.
And then, as usual, I dug a little bit deeper,
and we're going to tell you the story that's out there,
and then I'm going to tell you some discrepancies that
have just recently come about. So we're going to talk
about Hickory Hill. The Hickory Hill Mansion actually overlooks Saline
River in Harrisburg, Illinois. You know what, they call it
Saline River because it's salty. Absolutely, there's salt mines all
through there, so it probably is. But I know there's
salt mines all around there, so I'm sure that's where
they get the name. Cool. So the Hickory Hill Mansion
was actually built in eighteen thirty four, but it took
all the way to eighteen thirty eight to get it
completely built. Sits on top of Hickory Hill, thus the
name and Hickory Hill in Harrisburg, Illinois, actually at the
very bottom tip southernmost bottom tip of Illinois, near the
town of Equality, which will be very ironic considering how
the story goes. Hickory Hill was designed to be the
dream home of John Crenshaw.
Speaker 7: Okay, John Crenshaw, who's that the.
Speaker 2: Guy built this mansion. So his wife, Senya Taylor and
their five kids were also living in this house.
Speaker 7: What is in her name? Crenshaw?
Speaker 2: I think Senya Taylor was her first and middle name. Oh, okay,
I'm assuming it was Crenshaw since since I said his wife,
I know, but you didn't say that. Well, maybe she
was just a liberal and decided that she was going
to do her own thing and didn't want to take
his last name.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Oh and I forget to tell you that this house
was built with an evil purpose in mind. What the heck? Well,
he wanted to house illegal slaves and establish a breeding program.
Speaker 7: Okay, well that's not cool.
Speaker 2: No, and slay slaves were illegal in Illinois at the time.
This was not a state where that was legal even
at that time.
Speaker 7: Well, it's should have been illegal everywhere from the beginning
of this Earth agreed.
Speaker 2: Not the point of the story though, I know. And
the problem obviously was, you know, this is during the
time where you had freed slaves. This was after the time,
but you had the underground railroad, as we know, where
people were actually hiding slaves and getting up north where
they could be free. And that's kind of what Illinois
was one of those places where there were no slaves,
so that would have been a place where people would
have went. But he actually established like a reverse underground railroad,
and that's what we're going to get into. So the
house itself was actually beautiful. It was a pseudo Greek
Revival style house, which you know what that is. I
expect you to learn more about your architect before you
step in, so it just I'll tell you, I'll describe
it to you and you'll have an idea. The upper
and lower It had upper and lower veranda's. You know
what veranda is like the big roof that goes all
the way around. So it had upper and lower verandas
with huge white columns. So the first floor had columns
and the second floor had columns, so pretty cool. The
first two floors actually had six rooms each and that's
where the Crenshaws enjoyed their luxurious life. They had a
lot of money. They were actually looked at as model
citizens in the community. The third floor, on the other hand,
is the attic, and it had twelve tiny little rooms,
not much bigger than horse stalls. It had thickened walls,
It had a hall with two whipping posts. Some people
actually call this the Crenshaw Mansion. Some people called it
Hickory Hills, but most people know it as the old
slave house. The I want to talk a little more
about upstairs. So we had said ahead to look like
the twelve rooms. Now. Eventually, at one point in time
there were these were even smaller, so like what they
had found it later was what it is now. But
there was proof that they had actually taken out some
of the walls, so there probably was even less frunow. Yeah,
I mean there was. There was absolutely no light except
for at the at one at the two ends. At
the two ends of the place there was windows, so
that was the only light that came in there. And
then it was like hot in there all the time,
so there was no circulation. I mean, you can imagine
how hot an attic is. Anyway, you're on the four
and then you've got two windows open. That was the
only way that you could get air and there. And
so that's the kind of conditions they lived in, and
we're going to get into that a little more. N
Let's talk about John Crenshaw first, so you can get
a little idea of who we're dealing with. John Crenshaw
actually had to start running as salt refinery that his
dad started. His dad actually died when John was a teenager,
and by eighteen thirty four he was a very rich man.
He now had some money to invest and he was
able to lease several salt minds from the government and
he applied at that time to be an authorized person
to lease slaves from their owners. I know this isn't
going to make a lot of sense, but at this time,
there was actually an established law that was back in
Illinois from eighteen seventeen. And the reason that the law
was put in place is because there was a lot
of There was a lot of employers that had trouble
getting people that just would enough people for the workforce.
So this law enabled them to contact people from other
states that were able to legally own slaves at the time,
and they were able to to pay the owners for
the use of their slaves. So but you had to
you know this, Like I said, this was nineteen eighteen
thirty four. That law had been on the books for
seventeen years and by this time was probably outdated. Yeah,
but because the salt mines were it was very hard
to get workers, they were able to use that. So
he got authorized and he was able to contact slave
owners and basically pay them for the use of their slaves.
So that's what we had here.
Speaker 7: Wonder what his daddy thought about that, his dad's dad,
I mean, what he would I don't know that, but
I'm saying what he would think of that?
Speaker 2: No idea. But John Crenshaw, being the ever cunning businessman,
as at least he thought he was, he thought, why
spend money on leasing slaves when you could just kidnap
free blacks that were already in Illinois. Better yet, why
not just breed your own slaves and sell them in
the South for big money?
Speaker 7: What a jerk?
Speaker 2: And that's what he did with this thought process. He
had a carriage was actually built to enter directly into
his mansion. So he built a place where carriages could
pull up. According to the story and unload slaves straight
into the house without anybody ever seeing it. So the
carriage instead of just stopping outside like most would, actually
go into the house. Oh wow, so you could drive
straight into it.
Speaker 7: Okay, but people must have thought that was weird.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's up on a hill. How many
people were seeing this house? Yes, so that's what he
had done. By eighteen thirty eight, the house was actually finished.
The carriage full of kidnapped victims could be actually driven
straight into the mansion and secretly taken up the back
stairway straight to the infamous third floor. So this floor
was a place of imprisonment, suffering, rape, birth, and death.
It said that at least three hundred babies were produced
from one stud slave alone.
Speaker 7: What is he this ferminator?
Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, thank you.
Speaker 7: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well, and keep in mind, because when I originally read this,
I thought that, just you know, how in the world
are all these babies being born there and there's only
twelve places. But that's not really what it was. And
let me read the rest of this and you'll see
the conclusion I came to. But the pregnant slaves or
women who already had kids brought a higher price in
the slave States. Oh, so the reality of it was
he could have twelve women in there and he could
have this guy impregnate all of them, which could literally
happen over a week period or in my case, several years.
But this could happen, I mean if he was just
doing nothing but you know, trying to impregnate these girls
with this one stud. Basic, as soon as they were pregnant,
he could ship them off and get in twelve more
so you didn't have to wait. You know, there's no
nine months of waiting until a baby was born. So
he basically was just getting these people pregnant, so they
found out they were pregnant, selling them, getting a new crop.
So I guess over the years you could do three
hundred a lot more realistically than what I was thinking of,
you know, having to wait nine months and all that.
Speaker 7: So well, I mean, can I assume that even though
he's a man, he had to be tired of doing
that duty.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure, jeez, I'm sure. So in this location,
slaves were actually shackled to the floor of their stalls.
Obviously we talked about earlier. Ventilation was poor. There was
virtually no light. These slaves had a horrible existence. They
were tortured, they were barely fed, and they were humiliated.
John Crenshaw found it convenient that also that the Saline
River was right behind his house, because he could put
his precious cargo on a boat and just ship it immediately,
literally right behind his house. So there was really not
a lot. Keep in mind, what he was doing was illegal,
so he was taking every precaution, according to the story,
to make sure that all this stuff stay hid hidden.
In eighteen forty two, John was actually arrested for selling
a family of freed blacks into slavery. It was a
woman and her four kids, and the family supposedly owed
him some kind of services, couldn't pay him back, so
he just decided, I'll just sell them, and that's what
he was doing. And as you would think, what happened.
Because of his wealth and political standing, he was found
not guilty, but the community wasn't so forgiving as the
government was his meal. He had a saw mill that
was actually burned down, and the public turned completely against him.
Good Nobody found out though, what was going on in
his attic until after John and his wife both died.
He died in eighteen seventy one. She died in eighteen
eighty one. So John Crinshaw's considered to be the most
evil man to ever live in Illinois because of what
he's done and what he did to make money was
the largest scandal in Illinois. John Crenshaw somewhat was a
victim of karma though, because after his sawmill was burned down,
he had a steady decline over the next few years
of his income. Because keep in mind, he was big,
rich everything, at least he thought he was, so all
this money started dwindling down. He had several civil court
actions put against him. The salt mines were actually found
in Virginia and Ohio, and they actually were better salt
than what they had in Ohio, so nobody was buying
the Sophomohio, which where he had had most of his
money invested. And on a humorous note, he was actually
attacked by one of his slaves and lost a leg
due to his actions. Good for him, I said, on
a humorous note. It was humorous as the leg bone. Anyway,
the story goes. The story goes that he was beating
a woman out in the fields and an angry slave
grabbed an axe and chopped his leg off, That's what
I say. So after after that, most of the slaves
were actually just sold off. So I guess he was like,
I can't afford to be losing limbs. I need to
get rid of all these slaves. Yeah. During the Civil
War he actually sold Hickory Hill and moved to a
farmhouse closer to equality. He continued farming, but also got
into lumber, railroads, and banks. He died December fourth, eighteen
seventy one, and was buried in the Hickory Hill Cemetery.
It's unclear if he rests in peace, but many of
the former hostages that he actually have obviously do not
rest in peace.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure not. I want a way Dad from.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think his heart stopped. It's my guess.
Speaker 7: That's always your guess.
Speaker 2: Well, that's usually right. In nineteen oh six, Hickory Hill
was actually purchased by the Sisk family from a descendant
of John Crenshaw. So I guess Crenshaw's family had it
for a while. They sold it to the Sisk and
the Cists actually owned it for it seemed like forever
up until like the late nineties. We'll get into the
actual time here in a little bit, but it was
already a place with a horrible history, but it would
actually soon become even more widely known. The locals already
knew the place as the old slave House, so that's
you know, what it was. And in the nineteen twenties,
the Cisks began to actually have visitors just show up
at all hours asking for tours they had actually had.
They would be like at a restaurant and the waitress
would mention it, so then people would be like, hey,
that seems cool. So the people just started showing up
from word of mouth around town. If they came to
town for something, everybody's like, oh, the old slave House,
and it would become Did they know that, I'm sure
they did, but it just wouldn't something that was a
big deal to them. But now that they started gotting
people to show up, they think they started thinking, we
can make money off of this, of course, so they
started they started advertising it, and in nineteen thirty they
actually started charging admission for a dime. You could actually
visit the place where slavery existed in Illinois, because that
was something that didn't happen, and that's what the road
sign actually said. There was a road sign that had
the old slave house that you could come visit. Now,
shortly after it became a guesst of tourist attraction, visitors
started reporting strange things happening in the place. They complained
of odd noises in the attic, noises that sounded like
cries or whimpers, moans, or even chains rattling. People reported
very uncomfortable feelings in the slave quarters, like a sensation
of intense fear, sadness, or feeling some unseen figures brush
against you. Now, there were also reports of coach chills
being touched by an invisible hand and a woman in white.
I'm just kidding. There was no woman in white. There
wasn't a woman who white this one. I just said
it odd, not saying it.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: The remembers of the hauntings actually brought even more tourists
to the house. You would think in some cases it
might deter people, but no, it brought more people to
the house. So there's another legend that soon began to
be associated with Hickory Hill. The most famous was that
no one could spend the entire night in the attic,
So that story started because of an incident involving a
ghost chaser from Benton, Illinois by the name of Hickman Whittington.
What a name. So he actually planned to put the
ghost to rest. That that was what he thought he
was going to do, was coming there and abolish the ghost.
Now years passed and despite many people attempting to spend
the entire night, eventually they stopped doing it, with nobody
ever able to do it. They did it because there
was a small fire that ended up happening up there
because somebody overturned the lantern, so they figured it was
too risky, so they decided not to do it. Yeah,
good choice, now he did. Mister Sists did actually rented
out one last time in nineteen seventy eight, and he
allowed a reporter from the Harrisburg to actually come in
by the name of David Rogers and spend a night
in the attic as a Halloween stime. Now he managed
to beat approximately one hundred and fifty previous challengers and
become the first person to ever spend the entire night
over a century in the slave quarters.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, good for him.
Speaker 2: Now Rogers admits that he felt very queasy and he
said that for the minute he walked in the house,
he just felt very uneasy, and he said that his
experience in the attic was anything but mundane. He said
he heard many sounds that he couldn't identify, and he
also discovered a bunch of voices and stuff on some
recordings that he took that he didn't hear at the time,
but when he went back and played the recordings, he
could hear them.
Speaker 7: Oh that's a nice surprise.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So stories from basically visitors and curiosity secres have
been total. Over the years, the old slave house has
been a frequent stopping point for paranormal investigators, psychic investigators,
and just about anybody interested in the supernatural. In nineteen
ninety six, Hickory was actually closed down due to the
declining health of mister and miss Sisk. In nineteen ninety nine,
it was purchased by the state and there are plans
to make it a historic site. They were actually so
they wanted to actually make it into a museum, but
because of the fact that there's museums closing down all
over the place and it was going to take about
seven million dollars a turn into the museum, they just
can't really justify spending that kind of money when there's
museums shutting down that don't have the money. Well, a
new one. But let's talk a little more about the hauntings,
because that's what most people seem to be interested in.
So because of the cruelty and the great suffering that
actually went on in the attic, there are many angry
spirits that live in there, I'm sure, and they're not
too fond of living people apparently either. They supposedly keep
a close eye to people who lived in the first
and second floors, and they do their best to chase
the living out of the attic any chance that they can. Obviously,
the case of one hundred and fifty people not being
able to spend the night, yeah, tells you that. And
we're going to have some cool stories about some of
those events. But during the day, tourists have actually felt
a growing chill as they're climbing the steps to get
to the attic. And then in nineteen sixty six, this
is like my favorite story on here, two Vietnam marines
decided they were going.
Speaker 7: To spend the night thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is before they actually stopped doing a tourist,
but they decided they were going to spend a night.
At one am, their Kerosene lamp started to flicker. That
was like they had was that lamp. There was a
terrible moan that reverberated all over the room and shook
the attic walls.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Then they could hear several voices all talking at like
the same time, but they couldn't make out what they
were saying. Yeah, they could make out what they were saying,
but they it was, like they said, there were so
many of them, you could even begin to tell how
many there was. They said. Then there was these ghostly
figures that started swirling around them, and the only light
they had, obviously was the karen Seene lamp. It suddenly
blew out. Then they heard a blood curdling scream and
it rang out all around them. They said, you couldn't
tell where it was coming from. They were so feared,
filled with panic and fright that they flew down the
stairs and just left.
Speaker 7: And held each other to protect each other.
Speaker 2: I don't know that they did or not. I'm guessing no,
yeah they are.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, the Cis family, who actually on the mansion for
basically eighty years. It was in their family. They lived
on the first and second floor, like we said, and
they ran a little museum there for the longest time.
But they stayed on the first floor and they never
went to the attic at all.
Speaker 10: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: They said they respected the entities that were there. Mistress
Sisk reported cold spots or mississisk I mean, she reported
cold spots even on very hot days. She said that
an icy chill would fill an entire room and they
had no ac Oh wow, Well.
Speaker 7: That's kind of a good thing, right you look at
the positives.
Speaker 2: But she said she had to quit taking baths because
she would be in the bathtub and she would hear
an unseen presence would call out her name, and then
she would run out to the hallway and there would
never be anybody there. So she quit taking baths. And
she said that her husband felt like, you know, between
the two of them, that they were constantly being watched.
So they learned to deal with the entities. And they
said that the entities learned to deal with them and
there was basically no harm ever done. It was just
some weird feelings. But that's the way they did it.
And we're going to end on this, we talked about
Hickman Withington. He was, you know, a little earlier on her.
He was the guy that was going to come in
there and chase them out. He was an exorcist, or
at least he claimed to be. He went to the
attic to chase off the entities, and after a short
time he ran from the mansion and died of fright
a few hours later.
Speaker 5: What can you die right?
Speaker 2: You can die right? Oh, it's like I read something
like there's like ten people who die right every year
in the United States. Oh my gosh. So is it
possible that what he saw was the same thing that
the marine saw?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, man, That's that's pretty wicked.
Speaker 2: Now. I told you I was going to tell you
some other aspects of the story. I'm not going to
get into a ton of details on this. But they're
wanting to turn this into a museum. Now, if you're
going to use it, if it's something's going to be
a museum and a historic site, they want to make
sure that the facts are the facts. So they've went
back and they've heard some people from Southern Illinois University.
You got a gentleman by the name of mister Wagner,
who is I guess a professor archaeologist and all this stuff.
And he's been in there doing an archaeological dig and
they've uncovered stuff like their outhouse and all this stuff. Yeah,
well they're talking about like their out house, Like this
guy took his outthouse seriously, like it was a block.
Most people had just a hole in the ground more
or less, and you know, this guy had a block
foundation around it. He had a mirror hanging on the wall,
so he was pretty top notch. But what we're finding
out is we know for a fact through the history
through this guy that he definitely owned owned slaves. We
know for a fact that he sold slaves, and he
had many different quarter appearances over this. So he was
still a jerk. There's no way of fans are about this.
But he seems to think from what they're uncovering that
the slave quarters upstairs maybe wasn't a slave quarters. He
doesn't have any sign, he said. The carriage that we
talked about the carriage being built to be able to
go inside the house, he said, that's not the case.
He said, when you look at it, it's designing to
go back there and actually designed to show off the
fancy carriages that would be pulling up, so you would
definitely be able to see the carriage as the way
it set up, not going into a well. I mean,
if that's what they were doing, trying to keep some secret,
that would make sense, but he says that's not the
way it was set up from what he's seeing. He's
also saying that, like we said, out in the hallway,
there was two whipping posts, but he says, like one
of the things that's on display that says it's a
whipping post, isn't a whipping post. He said, it's actually
like a tool that you would make shingles with that's
laying on its side, so it's not a whipping post.
He also says that the rooms upstairs, though they are
the tiny rooms and they are up there, he thinks
that they are more made for indentured servants, which would
be sort of like slaves. But an indentured servant would
be somebody. Let's say that I told you, hey, I
will come work for you, like mister Belvidere, I will
come work for you for six months and basically whatever
you tell me, and at the end of the six months,
you're either gonna give me a piece of land or
some money or something like that. So you would sign
a contract stating that you agree to do that, but
you would initiate that nobody's making you do it, like
a slave situation, but that would be an indentured servant.
And he seems to think that those quarters up there
were made for people to spend the night if they
were in helping to work in the mines. And then
he said white or black. He doesn't necessarily think that
it was strictly slaves or torture or anything. So there's
no real proof, according to this guy, that there was
anybody tortured or being kept up there against their will.
He's not saying they haven't been. He can't say that
there's nobody been held against their will. But he doesn't
think that the stories that are out there about all
the torturing and stuff like that, and the breeding, and
he doesn't believe those to be the case. He thinks
it was just basically sleeping quarters for people that were
in town to try to help out work, and he
was just giving them a place to stay, or indentured
servants that he was hooking up in other places.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I hope that his story is the right story.
Speaker 2: Yeah so, well, I mean he seems to be pretty
confident that that's the case. And to open a museum,
he wants to make sure nothing said that's not true false.
Yeah so, especially a state run museum. It's if it's
not a state run museum, if it's Ripley's, you know,
they don't care if it's true or not true. We don't. No,
I'm pretty sure most of that stuff and Ripley's isn't
all true. So anyways, that's the stories we got for you, guys.
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So there are some spots now. So if you want
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Speaker 2: Now, I told you that we talked to Jackie and
her friend Wendy the other day, and we're gonna throw
that right here and we'll talk to you guys next week.
Speaker 7: I love y'all.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, we got a special treat for you this
week because we had some special visitors. We had Jackie
Getz come down and her friend Wendy. Wendy, what's your
last name? I pretend I didn't hear that. I could
definitely pretend I can't spell it. Uh. They came down
all the way from Wisconsin. What did you guys drive
like eight hours? About eight hours basically just to come
down here and eat dinner with us with some horrible spaghetti.
Speaker 6: It was wonderful.
Speaker 8: We haven't even ate it yet.
Speaker 6: It was really good.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mean horrible in the sense of like
you cooked it bad. I just meant it's probably not
worth eight hours of driving for absolutely. I just meant
I meant more less like plain spaghetti, not like you
know something that you know Gordon Ramsay made.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we do appreciate it, and we're so excited
you guys are here here. Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 2: And tomorrow they're spending the night and tomorrow we're going
to go to Bobby Mackey's. Now Originally we did this
because Jackie was not going to be able to come
to the Waverley because the Waverley tour was sold out,
and so she said, hey, it's my birthday weekend. Let's
set up a time and can we come down there.
And we said, let's do it. Let's have some fun.
So Jackie, happy birthday.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Jackie appropriately came dressed and and that's why we drank shirt.
Speaker 8: Which that's fine because we love those girls.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I like to go shopping at Home Depot.
We're in a low shirt, so it's basically the same thing.
But no, we love Christine and them, so that's so.
As we've said a thousand times, there's no competition in
the podcast world. We're on one big happy family.
Speaker 7: Are great, absolutely so wonderful.
Speaker 2: So Jackie, tell us a little bit about what you
expect or hope to happen tomorrow night Atobby Mackie, because
you've never been there before.
Speaker 6: I'm excited just to for one, being hanging out with
you guys and just having fun. Pretty damn cool. If
we saw saw something or something freaky like touched.
Speaker 2: Us or I'm all about something, Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Think that was a hint towards you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever it takes, I'm easy.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Some people say, you know, they talk about the bar,
raising the bar. My bar is like on the ground.
I just step right over top of it. I don't
have I don't have much of a bar except in
wives and wives, I have an extremely high bar. So, Wendy,
you were telling us a little story earlier you've had.
You said you are a magnet for what was it?
Speaker 8: And even evil spirits.
Speaker 6: They like to cling to me.
Speaker 2: So that's awesome that we're taking you there tomorrow night. Yeah,
you're definitely maybe be great for y'all. I need you
to trail about eight steps.
Speaker 7: Behind, might be wise.
Speaker 6: I'll have my camera.
Speaker 2: Jackie, you've had a bunch of experiences. You've been on
the the Personal Stories episodes that we do for Patreon,
so i'd imagine.
Speaker 6: That this they kind of follow me too. They like
to hang out around me, So that's awesome.
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 6: The nicer ones usually hang around me. Wendy attracts the weirdos. Well,
I'm you know, we're friends, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to say, so, have Christina and Am invited you
to their house for spaghetti just like I just wanted to,
you know, I'm want to clarify that.
Speaker 6: Of course, they're out in California, so weather sure is
a lot nic.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I wish we were out there.
Speaker 8: And now I was telling her it was seventy degrees yesterday.
Speaker 3: That's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was like spring out here yesterday.
Speaker 8: It just changed.
Speaker 6: We brought it down from Wisconsin and we're.
Speaker 9: Sharing our weather.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. A bunch of cold weather and cheese.
That's what we need it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, cheese.
Speaker 6: Sorry, we forgot, we failed. We are cheese.
Speaker 8: We We'll take it.
Speaker 2: And you were telling us a story about a closet earlier.
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 9: Yes, I did not like closets or open doors, open cabinets,
because there's evil working all around. But when I was
I think I was eleven or twelve, and I was
at a friend's house and we were just we were
young kids. We were just messed around telling ghost stories,
and everyone else had fallen this sleep and my friend's
closet door never did shut.
Speaker 6: It was there was a door, but it never would shut,
and they were all sleeping.
Speaker 9: All a sudden I saw red glowing eyes telling me
get out of my house.
Speaker 11: So I'm like freaking out and crying and screaming a
waking all the other girls up, and they like, think
I'm crazy. Turn the lights on and and obviously there's
nothing there when they turn lights on, but there was
something there. And I said, I want to call my mom,
and they're.
Speaker 9: Like, no, it's like one in the morning. We're not
calling home.
Speaker 11: You girls need to go back to bed, like the
parents are yelling at me, and.
Speaker 10: I'm like, I just want to go home, and then
you were like, see, what better time to make a sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Well, ladies, we just want to say thank you for
coming down. It's fun. This is the first time we've
been able to interact with listeners that aren't just like
people in our family.
Speaker 7: Did you have a story?
Speaker 8: Did you have a story?
Speaker 7: I could tell a story.
Speaker 6: It didn't really happen to me, but I was around
when it happened.
Speaker 7: Stories.
Speaker 6: My grandfather passed away in a pretty violent car accident
when I was like seven, and that summer we were
going on a family vacation. I guess I got super
sick from hay fever and we came back and we
stayed at my grandparents' house. My grandma was gone, so
it was just us in the house. We stayed upstairs,
you know. It was the house that my dad kind
of grew up in and stuff. But there was always
weird activity. After my grandfather died, my aunt and uncle
got married out there, and everybody's pictures had streaks running
through them. Any pictures that were taken out at the
farm had streaks running through them. I tried to ask
my aunt about it, and she's like, I don't remember
any of that.
Speaker 8: Can you remember that?
Speaker 6: No, But it was really weird because it's really stuck
in my head and my mom actually had pictures for
the longest time, like hidden up in my closet in
my bedroom with those streaks and stuff. And it was
really really weird. But he was always around there. But anyway,
we stayed overnight there, you know, to get me home,
and my brother is a big sleepwalker, and that night
he had gotten up and there was a huge crash
and it woke everybody up. And he had gotten up
and he had actually walked through a second story window
out onto a porch roof. Oh my gosh, but the
window was broken inwards.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 6: And when everybody woke up. He was back laying in
the bed, and everybody thought for sure Grandpa was the
one that saw him going towards that window, came through
the window and grabbed him and put him back in bed.
So wo Yeah, and you know he followed me around
for a very very long time until my grandma passed
and no, he's not around me and he's with her now,
but he protected Yeah, he protected everybody. It was amazing,
great story. That's amazing. So actually had actually had a
good ghost story there.
Speaker 2: Ones.
Speaker 8: And so and then you said that when your grand
grandmother passed away.
Speaker 6: Then my grandmother passed away three years ago, and it
is like within hours I didn't feel him around me anymore. Wow.
It was like it was really hard for me for about.
Speaker 2: A year after that to night.
Speaker 7: To get used.
Speaker 6: But then you were like they're together.
Speaker 8: And that's yeah, that's amazing, amazing story.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I love that. When I was always used
to have a bunch of pictures with streaks in it
and they said put your club, we're trying to take pictures.
That's what I did.
Speaker 6: In the street.
Speaker 8: With words.
Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen on this show.
Everything from he Haw and Andy Griffith, Torae Stevens stuff there.
Speaker 7: Now, that's talking about when times were simpler and you
didn't worry about half the crap.
Speaker 6: You have to worry about.
Speaker 2: You you're still worried about crap. Back. I hope the
milkman comes. We're out of milk.
Speaker 11: You know, when babies are running around naked all the time. Nowadays,
you see a baby naked and everyone wants to call CP.
Speaker 2: You know, I never understand we went. I remember when
Kristen had her babies and we go to the hospital
and they get all these naked pictures of babies all
over the wall, and that's art. But if it's in
my house, somebody's calling, la.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna touch that.
Speaker 9: And you know, you get pictures of babies in the
bathtub and everyone's like, we'll make sure you have the watch, and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got. You're gonna stop all this talk.
I'm starting to crave subway. All right, guys, thank you,
We'll see you soon.
Speaker 6: Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: Thy sure are so much fun to deal with. I'm
so glad they came down. Thank you guys so much.
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