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Speaker 1: Hello, heab billyon nation. How the heck are you? Must apologize?

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Our dog just got her bath and she's came into

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the studio to tell a mama. So anyway, welcome to

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here by Horror Stories. How the heck are you today?

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Long time long here, huh? I don't have a lot

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to cover today. How you guys enjoying the new story

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and beyond are you liking that? I know a lot

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of you guys enjoyed to hear by your horrorhouse, and

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I am getting messages on how much you guys are

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enjoying this stuff. So I'm glad to hear that. I

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do have a running story going called Solo a Zombie Apocalypse.

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It is ongoing. We actually have one more episode before

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it is brought to an end. So if you enjoy

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the stories that I am playing on here for you,

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I invite you to go look for Solo. It is

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a obviously a don't be apocalypse story, a lot of

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a lot of humor, a lot of humor. But when

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you look for make sure you put the colon necker Solo,

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So it's Solo colon a thumbie Apocalypse. Go check it out.

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I think you'll enjoy it. But it is a beautiful

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rainy day down here in Texas today. It is currently

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June fourteenth, and we'll get some good, good heavy rain.

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I know my banana plants are going to soak it up.

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Get me some good, delicious bananas this year, that would

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be wonderful. On this episode, Jerry and Tracy talk about

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the Hickory Hill and Illinois, Oh modeled stamping grounds by

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the way, anyway, They talked about the Old Hickory Hill

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in the Illinois are better known as the Old Slave

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House and Huntsville, Alabama's Dead Children Playground. A personal greeting

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from Bobby Mackie from Bobby Mackie's Music World and the

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most haunted nightclub in America. Enjoy y'all, take care of

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each other and have a great week.

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Speaker 2: It's about to.

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Speaker 3: Be your pune ride. Follow a law watch as we

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slip heavy normal, just hit the lights, goose bumps of

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through the night, mixing, just a little bit of twaining

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that girl show can't do one thing together here, Bill,

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He's God Wednesday. That's so hard at your Brain Podcast.

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You won't ever change.

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Speaker 2: He's too hitty.

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Speaker 3: He got the recipe, sat on back and listen in

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to some of our talks.

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Speaker 4: Mister welcome wol, Greetings, guys and gools, and welcome to

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everybody horror stories. Before we start tonight's show, please he

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me listen to this promo of a podcast that we

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think is you'll die for.

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Speaker 2: Are you afraid of what goes bumping the night?

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Speaker 5: Have you or your friends ever pondered a conspiracy?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know more about the unknown?

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and pick up your computer, tablet, or phone. Go to

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iTunes or YouTube and search for Secret Transmission podcast and

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Speaker 2: Mary, you have to be quiet. Don't you remember the

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last time that we disturbed Jerry and Tracy? Don't you

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remember what they did to us? Please? I'm begon. You're

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to be quiet. Hear them? Come Jerry, and Tracy. Hey, guys,

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and welcome to episode eighty one of He'll Be the

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Horror Stories. I'm Jerry.

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, how you doing Okay?

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Speaker 2: I think you sill say I'm Tracy. There, let's try

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that again. I'm Jerry.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm Tracy. Sorry, guys.

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Speaker 2: We have had a really fun weekend. Yeah, but we're

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also running on fumes, which we've had very little sleep,

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lots of work, and lots of fun. So we actually

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had Jackie Getz and her friend Wendy and I'm not

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gonna butcher it. But they came down from Wisconsin, so

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they drove eight hours to hang out with us for

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Speaker 7: Well, no, that just blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: And we tried to make the most of it, so

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a huge thank you to Jackie and yeah, Wendy for

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somebody would actually want to drive eight hours to just

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Speaker 7: And it was a blast.

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Speaker 2: And then she did that for her birthday, so we

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, real quick. I want to say

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a happy birthday to my daughter Amber, who's twenty.

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Speaker 7: Faturday birthday, am babamba.

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Speaker 2: And I also want to say a happy birthday to

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Jillie Gilder. She's one of our listeners over in England. She's,

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if not the biggest fan we got. She's right there.

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I mean, she's an absolute sweetheart.

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Speaker 7: She is Happy birthday, sweetheart.

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get her a special birthday over there. That keeps me

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Speaker 7: We sent our love. We do.

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to England. There might be something else, but right now,

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loves costing us seven dollars a ship.

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Speaker 2: So we want to start off as we usually do,

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say thank you to all of our servicemen all over

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the world, no matter what country you represent, all of

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your fireman, firefighters, ambulance drivers, you guys mean the world

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to everybody out there. We would not be able to

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live our life the way we.

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Speaker 7: Do without you guys, So thank you, God bless every

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Speaker 2: iTunes reviews we had fifteen this week. Oh my lord, absolutely,

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so let's jump into them. Sarah Teremy Lindsay nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We also had some new Patreon support.

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looks perfect. Thank you, guys. You are amazing and we

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really appreciate you all so much. Thank you for taking

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your time and money and all that fun stuff listening

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Speaker 2: Keep spreading the word, keep the itune reviews up because

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that really helps us. Like I said, we completely understand

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that not everybody can donate to the show. Financial times

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Speaker 7: So it sure does, and I do love them. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm supposed to be working. And I'm actually working.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see I got a better job than you do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you do. But somehow or other, we were able

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Speaker 7: Stupid guy.

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Speaker 2: What stupid guy?

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can of Moonlight Murders that came out on what Tuesday, Thursday?

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Speaker 7: But I still don't like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a week.

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Speaker 7: I don't like him.

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Speaker 2: You don't even know for sure who it is. How

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do you not even know.

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Speaker 7: Who likes I don't like none of these people. No,

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I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: But we came up with a couple of cool stories tonight,

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you though, every once in a while I love to

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dig into the stories that not everybody knows. One of

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these stories is a little more popular than the other,

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but it's still a vaguely unknown story, and that's the

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one we're going to start with. It's a little bit

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shorter story, but I want to start with that one. Okay,

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did you have anything you wanted to add before we

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that as a no. Oh. Also, remember that

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later in the show, we have the contest that Hillbilly

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Horror Show is running, and remember we played part of

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it last week. You had to answer the question of

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what the number one rule of the trailer was. We

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actually had somebody who's already gotten that right, and the

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contest is going to end after people. So yeah, the

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gentleman already knew he answered on Twitter. So we're going

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You're going to play it in full, so you actually

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have the answer, and then all you got to do

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it over to the guys with Hillbilly Horror Show. They're

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going to pick a winner, and that winner will get

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Bowl from Hillbilly Horseshow you've already called in a bunch

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of times, you will get him to actually do your

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personal voice message, so when somebody all in and get

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your voicemail, they will give Bowl doing a personal last

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message for you. So that'd be pretty cool.

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Speaker 7: That's gonna be very cool. We also have Jackie did

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a little sit in with us.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Jackie and Wendy when they came in, we set

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them down and actually talked a little bit. Wendy shared

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some of her paranormal stories and we had some fun

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since we had him in person. Jackie's been on the

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Personal Stories episodes that we do for Patreons, so she's

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actually been on our twice. So it was kind of

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cool to sit down and talk to both of them

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and have a little fun. And we're going to put

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that at the end of the episode so you can

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kind of tune in and just have some fun with us. Yeah,

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it'd be like you was right here. So before we

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jump into this story, I wanted to play that little

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clip from Bobby Mackey real quick. Okay, hey guys, it's

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Jerry Wood. He'll be the Horror Stories and I'm actually

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sitting in with a legend in the paranormal world, mister

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Bobby Mackee, who is the owner of Bobby and Mackie's.

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He's a world the most haunted nightclub in the United States. Bobby,

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can you say a big hat all the fans out

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there that absolutely love you and Hippolye for Orland.

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Speaker 7: If both Somebody and Mick and Hear and Wilder Katakie

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and we want to say that a blow to all

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of our paranormal fans out there.

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Speaker 2: So how cool was he?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'll tell you what. He's a real gentleman. He's

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fun to watch on stage. I think his voice is

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still amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's like seventy years old.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's just a really fun time. And it's

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really cool because he has all his guys that's played

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with him for years and years still with him, which

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is amazing. And he was just really kind and very

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excited to do that for us, and I think that

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was really amazing.

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Speaker 2: He was There's a couple of guys in the band

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that I think may be deceased, and nobody's told him.

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I'm just saying they're kind of there's a couple of

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them that looked like that Riga mortis has set in,

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maybe at least a year ago.

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Speaker 7: Won't you feel bad? What if he listened to our

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show and you said that, I.

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Speaker 2: Think we're okay. Oh, I don't think he's gonna be listening.

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But no, they're all super nice. I'm just saying that,

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you know, you probably shouldn't be playing base with you're

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one hundred and thirty seven years old. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Stop it. They're not that old. They rocked out just

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like the young guys did.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's get started on this first story.

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I'm not gonna tell you what the story is. I'm

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gonna tell you the story, but I'm not gonna tell

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you what it's about. We'll get to it because it'll

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be better that way. So we're gonna start off. This

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story is in Huntsville, Alabama. So three Alabama stories in

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a row.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Huntsville, Alabama. There's a cemetery called the Maple Hills Cemetery.

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We're gonna talk about the cemetery, get into that a

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little bit, but the cemetery is not the focal point

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of the story, I believe it or not. So here's

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some some a little bit of the background on Maple

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Hill in Alabama. It's the largest cemetery in Alabama. First

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of all, there's over eight eighty thousand no burials there.

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Speaker 7: How is that possible?

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Speaker 2: I just said it's the largest one in Alabama.

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Speaker 7: I know, But that's a lot of dag on people.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're probably stacking them on top of each other.

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I don't know why you wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: Well, I guess you have to.

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Speaker 2: That just sounds like there's no sensing going six feet

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down all the time. It's just crazy talk.

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Speaker 7: That sounds like a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why to go six feet down anyway.

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That seems deep. If you went out like with a

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spoon and stuff and was digging in the backyard, what's

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the most you're gonna dig a foot?

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Speaker 7: Okay, well, nobody's gonna dig with a spoon. I mean

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unless you're four years old.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's kind of what I was thinking.

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I wouldn't talking about adults running out there with spoons.

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I'm just saying, well, kids come to the cemetery. Maybe

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they're just sitting around board or something. They start digging

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up stuff with spoon. I don't know what goes on it.

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Speaker 7: Somemore, you need to try to come up with something better,

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because that.

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Speaker 2: Is not working for me anyways. I just take six

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feet's a little too deep. I think they could probably

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go fourth frost.

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Speaker 7: I should they do it because of maybe flooding or something.

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d what we.

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Speaker 2: Need to do is get a funeral director on the phone,

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but we didn't do probably not. He may though anyways.

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So the original cemetery was actually sold to the city

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from a guy named Leroy Pope in eighteen twenty two,

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so he had he owned that plot of land and

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he sold it to him, and it must have been

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used as a cemetery before that because he sold it

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to him in eighteen twenty two. But the oldest burial

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that actually goes back to eighteen twenty It was an

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infant by the name of Mary Francis and Edwood, so

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it was two years before that, so somebody there, at

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least that person was buried on the before that. Yeah,

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it was later actually expanded and it included the pope

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family private cemetery that they had, so he must have

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sold him some more land, or at least some of

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the popes did. And most of the new burials at

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this time were actually Confederate and Union soldiers from the

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Civil War. So over the years the cemetery actually grew

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bigger by them purchasing surrounding land around it. In nineteen

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oh one, the cemetery actually got its official name of

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Maple Hill. Before that, it was known as just the

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burial ground.

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Speaker 7: Well, I like Maple Hill a whole lot better.

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Speaker 2: Still, ever, growing the cemetery needed more space, and in

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two thousand and seven it actually tried to purchase and

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take over a little park that's next to the cemetery.

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The official name of the park was Maple Hill Park.

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Some call it Dross Park. Most call it the Dead

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Children's Playground. Oh wow, and that is the focus of

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our story. O.

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Speaker 7: The playground is oh, I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: So the city actually removed all the swings and the

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slides that were there, and the locals threw a big fit.

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They didn't like it. They loved their Dead Children's playground.

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And we'll get into more while a little bit wild.

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But the outlash was actually so much that the city

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replaced the playground equipment with brand new equipment. So they

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went from we're going to take over the park and

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take all the stuff. So they replaced it and made

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it nicer and put brand new equipment in there.

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Speaker 7: Now what that's confusing? I mean, did they think that

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the put new playground stuff in there it was going

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to make the ghost go?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess because they already pulled. I mean, that

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wouldn't why they were getting rid of it. They needed

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the space to put more dead bodies. Oh so they

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were trying to use it to expand the cemetery.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, well I'm sorry I missed it.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I love you, I love you. So I

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guess the first question would be why is there a

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playground next to the cemetery? Yeah, kids get bored, and

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people assume that the thought process was, you're at this

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giant cemetery. There's all these old stones and stuff, and

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if you're like a four or five year old kid,

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you don't have a concept of death, and you don't

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know that those are dead people underneath of you. You

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just know there's a bunch of cool looking rocks. Yeah,

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you know. So there's a playground right there, so the

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kids could actually while their service was going on or

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a funeral was going on, that the kids could actually

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go over and play the playground and not be involved

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in that. So that's the thought process on why it

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was put there. From my understanding, there's no real reason

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behind it, but that's what the people who live there

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think that.

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Speaker 7: The reason will I mean, can I see that. I

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can see that.

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Speaker 2: Some people actually will tell you that it's actually part

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of the cemetery, like it's you'll read stuff that says

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it's like smack dab in the middle of the cemetery.

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It's not. It's not part of the cemetery. That's why

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the cemetery was trying to buy it. If it was

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part of the cemetery, it would have just you know,

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consumed it if they wanted to, of course. But no,

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it's at the end of the cemetery adjacent there's a

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road you can get to it without having to you know,

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actually go into the cemetery at all. So it's not

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it's on the outskirt of the cemetery. Now, all the

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kids that play at this playground, though, are not alive.

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We'll say this playground is a hot spot for paranormal

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activity now most say from ten pm to three am.

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The dead children actually reclaimed the park from the living

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and now it's their park to that kind of time.

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So over the years, many curious people have actually made

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the trek down that long dark road we was telling

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you about to the dead Children's playground and they actually

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are hoping like we did last night, to experience some

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type of paranormal activity, and several people over the years

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have experienced some stuff good.

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Speaker 7: That's good.

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Speaker 2: So visitors have actually experienced a high level of ghostly

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activity at the park, especially at night time. As we

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talked about from those times. Even people who have no

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idea that the park's history or know anything about it

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being haunted, they said that when they get there, there's

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just an eeriness that comes over you. Something just doesn't

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sit right about that. So some of the experiences that

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people who have actually had to there is they hear

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the sights and sounds of children playing, which you would

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expect children calling out to each other, but they also

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hear mothers calling out for their children. So I don't

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know where the mother sounds come from unless it's just

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mothers just passed on the maybe you lost kids. They

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also hear the sound of running children, you know, like

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a payground. So the consensus is that most of the

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children come from the adjacent cemetery right next door. That

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would make sense, right with so many people buried there,

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you would think that would be the number one choice.

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But there actually is another theory. The story may actually

476
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,240
be a little bit urban legend, mixed in, but there's

477
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,799
definitely a lot of truth mixed into the story. So

478
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,559
between nineteen forty five and fifty five, and we'll give

479
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:27,160
you some background on where the park sits. Between forty

480
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,000
five and nineteen fifty five, the area that the playground

481
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:34,599
is right now was a limestone quarry. Oh okay, and

482
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,880
so it's got like these high cliffs that surround the

483
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,240
park and those aren't naturally made. That's just from the

484
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,200
process of digging out the quarry. It's basically, I guess

485
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,400
it's sitting in a hole, is what it boils down to.

486
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:46,799
Speaker 7: Sit, and.

487
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,559
Speaker 2: They're just storing back there.

488
00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:53,039
Speaker 7: Sorry, guess.

489
00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: So when the quarry was actually closed, the grass kind

490
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,279
of started to grow back, Trees started to grow back,

491
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:05,720
a bunch of weeds, wildlife actually started returning, right But

492
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,519
in a matter of years the thing was overrun with

493
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,400
weeds and brush and tall grass.

494
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was just sad.

495
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: It was a mess. And in the nineteen sixties there

496
00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:16,599
was an unknown person who used this area kind of

497
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,160
as their personal dumping ground for abductive children. No way,

498
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,799
So there was a series of children back then that

499
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,720
just disappeared. And all this was in the Huntsville area. Right, So,

500
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,799
all these reports are coming up about these missing kids

501
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,759
and none that these kids were turning up, So it

502
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:38,200
was obviously feared that there was some type of a

503
00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,680
child murderer or something in the area that was kind

504
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,240
of loose in Huntsville. Unfortunately, that fear became a reality

505
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,119
when somebody walking through the abandoned quarry actually found a

506
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,839
small skull. Police were called in. Several small skeletons were

507
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,519
then found, along with some small corpses from fresher murders.

508
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,039
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

509
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,039
Speaker 2: They never found out the identity of the murderer, but

510
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,839
what they did determine is that these kids were tortured

511
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,759
and killed. They showed signs of being held captive for

512
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,720
a very long time. They had been starved to death,

513
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,720
They were partially healed wounds on that were found on

514
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,119
some of the bodies that were more recent where they

515
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,599
could actually see that once they discovered the bodies, the

516
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,839
disappearance has stopped. Many of the children were buried right

517
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,079
next door at Maple Hill. Yeah, in nineteen eighty five.

518
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,400
Twenty years later after all this happened, the quarry and

519
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:35,799
the surrounding land was turned into a park.

520
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,799
Speaker 7: So what kind of Siko does that stuff? How could

521
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:40,279
you do that?

522
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,039
Speaker 2: I don't know. If there's plenty of them out there,

523
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,160
and there's been proof of several of them, that's break

524
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:49,480
somebody who has some kind of mental issues like that,

525
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,240
they don't think normal, so there's no way to even

526
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,319
rationally try it.

527
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 7: They would do that. But well, I mean, it's such

528
00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,599
a sad story. But I'm glad that the kids were

529
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,160
playing together, you know, so that I mean, you gotta

530
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,319
find some happiness out of that somewhere.

531
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:13,279
Speaker 2: So the question is who are you hearing at the park?

532
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 6: Is it?

533
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: Theoretically a lot of those kids were buried over next door,

534
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,119
so that the first assumption is still right, it's still

535
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
a lot of kids over there. But are you only

536
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,640
hearing the kids that were dumped there, or are you

537
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,640
hearing a mixture of kids from the cemetery that had

538
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,440
nothing to do with that.

539
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 6: I bet you are.

540
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,599
Speaker 7: I bet it's a mixture of kids.

541
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 6: I mean.

542
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: And when you think about the parents, they said there's

543
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:39,319
voices of parents calling out for their kids. That would

544
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,640
seem probably to indicate like the kids that were abducted

545
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400
and their parents may be out looking for them.

546
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 7: Maybe that's heart wrenching. You know, well, I hope the

547
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,279
poor babies. I hope they played together with each other

548
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,599
and they're in a better place and happy. And this

549
00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:57,759
is terrible. That's terrible.

550
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: It's horrible. With that being said, let's try to win.

551
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,599
And the voicemail from bowl, Oh my god, that's not

552
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,400
a good transition.

553
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 7: No, I'm still I'm still like, I'm still hurting.

554
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: I understand these kids died fifty years ago, so there's

555
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,920
nothing we can do about it now, all right, So

556
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,559
I'm gonna play that. I'm gonna play this little clip.

557
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,559
This clip. It will give you the entire answer to

558
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,519
what the number one rule of the trailer is. The

559
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:29,480
whole entire answer. And when you hear it, feel free

560
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:31,599
to send a message on Twitter He'll Billy Horror Show

561
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,440
or He'll Billy Horror Story. On Twitter. You can send

562
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,400
it to He'll Billy Horror Show.

563
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 7: Don't you think Twitter is a funny word.

564
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:37,799
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.

565
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 7: Let me just think about Twitter this thing though. I

566
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:43,240
don't think it's funny. I just think it's funny.

567
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's hilarious. Hey, let me Twitter, you please, don't.

568
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,559
Last time we did the voices, we got nasty reviews

569
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,160
about how we're insensitive to people. Oh I don't know

570
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,720
how that would be, but somebody will.

571
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 7: Oh well, dag on, we got twitter over here.

572
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,559
Speaker 2: Sorry to all of our Brits listeners.

573
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 7: Oh I love you guys. I wish you would just

574
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,759
call and talk to me like every day, like seriously,

575
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,079
I love your all's accents.

576
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,519
Speaker 2: All right, so let's listen real quick to bowl tell

577
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:11,519
us what the number one rule of the trailer is?

578
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:14,559
Speaker 8: Boo, I done told you to fix that door at

579
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,039
least one hundred times. Now I won't even open.

580
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: Little darling.

581
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 9: What is the number one rule of the trailer?

582
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 7: Come on, you know this.

583
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 6: If it ain't brown, you ain't got to put the

584
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,000
tools he down.

585
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:29,839
Speaker 5: That is rule number two.

586
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,839
Speaker 2: Come on, you can win and use toaster of him.

587
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,039
Speaker 8: If you got a cold beer in hand, you ain't.

588
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: Got room for no tools.

589
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,119
Speaker 7: Thing.

590
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: Go all right. So the answer is, in case you

591
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,400
missed it, if you've got a cold beer in hand,

592
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,240
you ain't got room for no tools.

593
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,759
Speaker 7: So that's the typical saying. I kind of dig that

594
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,319
a little bit.

595
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: That is the number one rule of the trailer. Yeah, well,

596
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,359
in the South we.

597
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,799
Speaker 6: All know that.

598
00:28:58,079 --> 00:28:59,039
Speaker 7: Well, that's very true.

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,839
Speaker 2: That's very true. So we've got the second story. The

600
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,720
second story is going to be very disturbing. Oh man,

601
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,920
I know we get a lie of that recently. But

602
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,119
it's it's like I said, it's it's a story I've

603
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,720
just recently become accustomed to. So it's not the most

604
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,960
popular story out there, but I found it very fascinating.

605
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,359
And then, as usual, I dug a little bit deeper,

606
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,319
and we're going to tell you the story that's out there,

607
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,839
and then I'm going to tell you some discrepancies that

608
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,119
have just recently come about. So we're going to talk

609
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:42,359
about Hickory Hill. The Hickory Hill Mansion actually overlooks Saline

610
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,680
River in Harrisburg, Illinois. You know what, they call it

611
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:49,400
Saline River because it's salty. Absolutely, there's salt mines all

612
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,559
through there, so it probably is. But I know there's

613
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:54,319
salt mines all around there, so I'm sure that's where

614
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:58,240
they get the name. Cool. So the Hickory Hill Mansion

615
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,599
was actually built in eighteen thirty four, but it took

616
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:02,000
all the way to eighteen thirty eight to get it

617
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,160
completely built. Sits on top of Hickory Hill, thus the

618
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:10,240
name and Hickory Hill in Harrisburg, Illinois, actually at the

619
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:15,079
very bottom tip southernmost bottom tip of Illinois, near the

620
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,279
town of Equality, which will be very ironic considering how

621
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:23,640
the story goes. Hickory Hill was designed to be the

622
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,319
dream home of John Crenshaw.

623
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 7: Okay, John Crenshaw, who's that the.

624
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:36,119
Speaker 2: Guy built this mansion. So his wife, Senya Taylor and

625
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,880
their five kids were also living in this house.

626
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 7: What is in her name? Crenshaw?

627
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 2: I think Senya Taylor was her first and middle name. Oh, okay,

628
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,880
I'm assuming it was Crenshaw since since I said his wife,

629
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,279
I know, but you didn't say that. Well, maybe she

630
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,680
was just a liberal and decided that she was going

631
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:53,960
to do her own thing and didn't want to take

632
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,519
his last name.

633
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:55,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.

634
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh and I forget to tell you that this house

635
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:02,039
was built with an evil purpose in mind. What the heck? Well,

636
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:05,079
he wanted to house illegal slaves and establish a breeding program.

637
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 7: Okay, well that's not cool.

638
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: No, and slay slaves were illegal in Illinois at the time.

639
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160
This was not a state where that was legal even

640
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,680
at that time.

641
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,319
Speaker 7: Well, it's should have been illegal everywhere from the beginning

642
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,440
of this Earth agreed.

643
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:19,319
Speaker 2: Not the point of the story though, I know. And

644
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,960
the problem obviously was, you know, this is during the

645
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,440
time where you had freed slaves. This was after the time,

646
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:31,759
but you had the underground railroad, as we know, where

647
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:36,119
people were actually hiding slaves and getting up north where

648
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,880
they could be free. And that's kind of what Illinois

649
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,079
was one of those places where there were no slaves,

650
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:42,640
so that would have been a place where people would

651
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,480
have went. But he actually established like a reverse underground railroad,

652
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,519
and that's what we're going to get into. So the

653
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,119
house itself was actually beautiful. It was a pseudo Greek

654
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:58,039
Revival style house, which you know what that is. I

655
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,480
expect you to learn more about your architect before you

656
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,599
step in, so it just I'll tell you, I'll describe

657
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
it to you and you'll have an idea. The upper

658
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,359
and lower It had upper and lower veranda's. You know

659
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,279
what veranda is like the big roof that goes all

660
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,799
the way around. So it had upper and lower verandas

661
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,119
with huge white columns. So the first floor had columns

662
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960
and the second floor had columns, so pretty cool. The

663
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,759
first two floors actually had six rooms each and that's

664
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,440
where the Crenshaws enjoyed their luxurious life. They had a

665
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,160
lot of money. They were actually looked at as model

666
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,640
citizens in the community. The third floor, on the other hand,

667
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,079
is the attic, and it had twelve tiny little rooms,

668
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,680
not much bigger than horse stalls. It had thickened walls,

669
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:49,400
It had a hall with two whipping posts. Some people

670
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:54,079
actually call this the Crenshaw Mansion. Some people called it

671
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,279
Hickory Hills, but most people know it as the old

672
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:02,319
slave house. The I want to talk a little more

673
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,720
about upstairs. So we had said ahead to look like

674
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:08,319
the twelve rooms. Now. Eventually, at one point in time

675
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,799
there were these were even smaller, so like what they

676
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:14,920
had found it later was what it is now. But

677
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,480
there was proof that they had actually taken out some

678
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,000
of the walls, so there probably was even less frunow. Yeah,

679
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,720
I mean there was. There was absolutely no light except

680
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,200
for at the at one at the two ends. At

681
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,920
the two ends of the place there was windows, so

682
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,119
that was the only light that came in there. And

683
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,480
then it was like hot in there all the time,

684
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,279
so there was no circulation. I mean, you can imagine

685
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,079
how hot an attic is. Anyway, you're on the four

686
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,079
and then you've got two windows open. That was the

687
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,880
only way that you could get air and there. And

688
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,920
so that's the kind of conditions they lived in, and

689
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,319
we're going to get into that a little more. N

690
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,519
Let's talk about John Crenshaw first, so you can get

691
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,559
a little idea of who we're dealing with. John Crenshaw

692
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,079
actually had to start running as salt refinery that his

693
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,000
dad started. His dad actually died when John was a teenager,

694
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,119
and by eighteen thirty four he was a very rich man.

695
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,719
He now had some money to invest and he was

696
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,360
able to lease several salt minds from the government and

697
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:23,599
he applied at that time to be an authorized person

698
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,239
to lease slaves from their owners. I know this isn't

699
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239
going to make a lot of sense, but at this time,

700
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:37,679
there was actually an established law that was back in

701
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Illinois from eighteen seventeen. And the reason that the law

702
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,199
was put in place is because there was a lot

703
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,559
of There was a lot of employers that had trouble

704
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,440
getting people that just would enough people for the workforce.

705
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,159
So this law enabled them to contact people from other

706
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,239
states that were able to legally own slaves at the time,

707
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,440
and they were able to to pay the owners for

708
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,760
the use of their slaves. So but you had to

709
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:08,039
you know this, Like I said, this was nineteen eighteen

710
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,119
thirty four. That law had been on the books for

711
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,840
seventeen years and by this time was probably outdated. Yeah,

712
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,519
but because the salt mines were it was very hard

713
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,480
to get workers, they were able to use that. So

714
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,840
he got authorized and he was able to contact slave

715
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
owners and basically pay them for the use of their slaves.

716
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:27,199
So that's what we had here.

717
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 7: Wonder what his daddy thought about that, his dad's dad,

718
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,760
I mean, what he would I don't know that, but

719
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,320
I'm saying what he would think of that?

720
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:38,079
Speaker 2: No idea. But John Crenshaw, being the ever cunning businessman,

721
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,400
as at least he thought he was, he thought, why

722
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:44,599
spend money on leasing slaves when you could just kidnap

723
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,079
free blacks that were already in Illinois. Better yet, why

724
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:51,400
not just breed your own slaves and sell them in

725
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,719
the South for big money?

726
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:54,199
Speaker 7: What a jerk?

727
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,199
Speaker 2: And that's what he did with this thought process. He

728
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:04,159
had a carriage was actually built to enter directly into

729
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,159
his mansion. So he built a place where carriages could

730
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:11,960
pull up. According to the story and unload slaves straight

731
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,960
into the house without anybody ever seeing it. So the

732
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,480
carriage instead of just stopping outside like most would, actually

733
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:18,840
go into the house. Oh wow, so you could drive

734
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,519
straight into it.

735
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 7: Okay, but people must have thought that was weird.

736
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,559
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's up on a hill. How many

737
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,440
people were seeing this house? Yes, so that's what he

738
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,760
had done. By eighteen thirty eight, the house was actually finished.

739
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,320
The carriage full of kidnapped victims could be actually driven

740
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,880
straight into the mansion and secretly taken up the back

741
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,239
stairway straight to the infamous third floor. So this floor

742
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,719
was a place of imprisonment, suffering, rape, birth, and death.

743
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,159
It said that at least three hundred babies were produced

744
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,000
from one stud slave alone.

745
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,639
Speaker 7: What is he this ferminator?

746
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, thank you.

747
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 7: That's ridiculous.

748
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,559
Speaker 2: Well, and keep in mind, because when I originally read this,

749
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,840
I thought that, just you know, how in the world

750
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,280
are all these babies being born there and there's only

751
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,320
twelve places. But that's not really what it was. And

752
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,559
let me read the rest of this and you'll see

753
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,400
the conclusion I came to. But the pregnant slaves or

754
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,440
women who already had kids brought a higher price in

755
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,320
the slave States. Oh, so the reality of it was

756
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,199
he could have twelve women in there and he could

757
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,079
have this guy impregnate all of them, which could literally

758
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:49,559
happen over a week period or in my case, several years.

759
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,400
But this could happen, I mean if he was just

760
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:57,360
doing nothing but you know, trying to impregnate these girls

761
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,800
with this one stud. Basic, as soon as they were pregnant,

762
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,599
he could ship them off and get in twelve more

763
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,400
so you didn't have to wait. You know, there's no

764
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,000
nine months of waiting until a baby was born. So

765
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,239
he basically was just getting these people pregnant, so they

766
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,239
found out they were pregnant, selling them, getting a new crop.

767
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,639
So I guess over the years you could do three

768
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,039
hundred a lot more realistically than what I was thinking of,

769
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,440
you know, having to wait nine months and all that.

770
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 7: So well, I mean, can I assume that even though

771
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,599
he's a man, he had to be tired of doing

772
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:26,840
that duty.

773
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:32,039
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure, jeez, I'm sure. So in this location,

774
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400
slaves were actually shackled to the floor of their stalls.

775
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,239
Obviously we talked about earlier. Ventilation was poor. There was

776
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,239
virtually no light. These slaves had a horrible existence. They

777
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,480
were tortured, they were barely fed, and they were humiliated.

778
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,599
John Crenshaw found it convenient that also that the Saline

779
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
River was right behind his house, because he could put

780
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,920
his precious cargo on a boat and just ship it immediately,

781
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,639
literally right behind his house. So there was really not

782
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,880
a lot. Keep in mind, what he was doing was illegal,

783
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,840
so he was taking every precaution, according to the story,

784
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,920
to make sure that all this stuff stay hid hidden.

785
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,000
In eighteen forty two, John was actually arrested for selling

786
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,679
a family of freed blacks into slavery. It was a

787
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,400
woman and her four kids, and the family supposedly owed

788
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,199
him some kind of services, couldn't pay him back, so

789
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,760
he just decided, I'll just sell them, and that's what

790
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,440
he was doing. And as you would think, what happened.

791
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,079
Because of his wealth and political standing, he was found

792
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:41,920
not guilty, but the community wasn't so forgiving as the

793
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,039
government was his meal. He had a saw mill that

794
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:48,320
was actually burned down, and the public turned completely against him.

795
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,199
Good Nobody found out though, what was going on in

796
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,440
his attic until after John and his wife both died.

797
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,320
He died in eighteen seventy one. She died in eighteen

798
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:02,400
eighty one. So John Crinshaw's considered to be the most

799
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,559
evil man to ever live in Illinois because of what

800
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,760
he's done and what he did to make money was

801
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,599
the largest scandal in Illinois. John Crenshaw somewhat was a

802
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,840
victim of karma though, because after his sawmill was burned down,

803
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,119
he had a steady decline over the next few years

804
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,480
of his income. Because keep in mind, he was big,

805
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:29,639
rich everything, at least he thought he was, so all

806
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,599
this money started dwindling down. He had several civil court

807
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:36,199
actions put against him. The salt mines were actually found

808
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,119
in Virginia and Ohio, and they actually were better salt

809
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,800
than what they had in Ohio, so nobody was buying

810
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,679
the Sophomohio, which where he had had most of his

811
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,199
money invested. And on a humorous note, he was actually

812
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,119
attacked by one of his slaves and lost a leg

813
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,880
due to his actions. Good for him, I said, on

814
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,800
a humorous note. It was humorous as the leg bone. Anyway,

815
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,239
the story goes. The story goes that he was beating

816
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,079
a woman out in the fields and an angry slave

817
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,760
grabbed an axe and chopped his leg off, That's what

818
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,960
I say. So after after that, most of the slaves

819
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,119
were actually just sold off. So I guess he was like,

820
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,920
I can't afford to be losing limbs. I need to

821
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,920
get rid of all these slaves. Yeah. During the Civil

822
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,480
War he actually sold Hickory Hill and moved to a

823
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:24,280
farmhouse closer to equality. He continued farming, but also got

824
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,400
into lumber, railroads, and banks. He died December fourth, eighteen

825
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719
seventy one, and was buried in the Hickory Hill Cemetery.

826
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,360
It's unclear if he rests in peace, but many of

827
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,719
the former hostages that he actually have obviously do not

828
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,559
rest in peace.

829
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure not. I want a way Dad from.

830
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think his heart stopped. It's my guess.

831
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 7: That's always your guess.

832
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's usually right. In nineteen oh six, Hickory Hill

833
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,079
was actually purchased by the Sisk family from a descendant

834
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:57,320
of John Crenshaw. So I guess Crenshaw's family had it

835
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,119
for a while. They sold it to the Sisk and

836
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,960
the Cists actually owned it for it seemed like forever

837
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,599
up until like the late nineties. We'll get into the

838
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,280
actual time here in a little bit, but it was

839
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920
already a place with a horrible history, but it would

840
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,800
actually soon become even more widely known. The locals already

841
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,519
knew the place as the old slave House, so that's

842
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,000
you know, what it was. And in the nineteen twenties,

843
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,960
the Cisks began to actually have visitors just show up

844
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,840
at all hours asking for tours they had actually had.

845
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,519
They would be like at a restaurant and the waitress

846
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,679
would mention it, so then people would be like, hey,

847
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,400
that seems cool. So the people just started showing up

848
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,320
from word of mouth around town. If they came to

849
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,360
town for something, everybody's like, oh, the old slave House,

850
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,840
and it would become Did they know that, I'm sure

851
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,920
they did, but it just wouldn't something that was a

852
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000
big deal to them. But now that they started gotting

853
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,599
people to show up, they think they started thinking, we

854
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,719
can make money off of this, of course, so they

855
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,880
started they started advertising it, and in nineteen thirty they

856
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:05,519
actually started charging admission for a dime. You could actually

857
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,840
visit the place where slavery existed in Illinois, because that

858
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,719
was something that didn't happen, and that's what the road

859
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,039
sign actually said. There was a road sign that had

860
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,159
the old slave house that you could come visit. Now,

861
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:20,480
shortly after it became a guesst of tourist attraction, visitors

862
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,239
started reporting strange things happening in the place. They complained

863
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,519
of odd noises in the attic, noises that sounded like

864
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:33,760
cries or whimpers, moans, or even chains rattling. People reported

865
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,679
very uncomfortable feelings in the slave quarters, like a sensation

866
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,599
of intense fear, sadness, or feeling some unseen figures brush

867
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:47,880
against you. Now, there were also reports of coach chills

868
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,559
being touched by an invisible hand and a woman in white.

869
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,360
I'm just kidding. There was no woman in white. There

870
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,199
wasn't a woman who white this one. I just said

871
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:58,960
it odd, not saying it.

872
00:43:59,039 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 7: I know.

873
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: The remembers of the hauntings actually brought even more tourists

874
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,280
to the house. You would think in some cases it

875
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,880
might deter people, but no, it brought more people to

876
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,119
the house. So there's another legend that soon began to

877
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,840
be associated with Hickory Hill. The most famous was that

878
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,159
no one could spend the entire night in the attic,

879
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,960
So that story started because of an incident involving a

880
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,679
ghost chaser from Benton, Illinois by the name of Hickman Whittington.

881
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:31,280
What a name. So he actually planned to put the

882
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480
ghost to rest. That that was what he thought he

883
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,880
was going to do, was coming there and abolish the ghost.

884
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,239
Now years passed and despite many people attempting to spend

885
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,320
the entire night, eventually they stopped doing it, with nobody

886
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,360
ever able to do it. They did it because there

887
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,119
was a small fire that ended up happening up there

888
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,480
because somebody overturned the lantern, so they figured it was

889
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,360
too risky, so they decided not to do it. Yeah,

890
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,639
good choice, now he did. Mister Sists did actually rented

891
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:02,239
out one last time in nineteen seventy eight, and he

892
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,719
allowed a reporter from the Harrisburg to actually come in

893
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,880
by the name of David Rogers and spend a night

894
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,199
in the attic as a Halloween stime. Now he managed

895
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,639
to beat approximately one hundred and fifty previous challengers and

896
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,360
become the first person to ever spend the entire night

897
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,679
over a century in the slave quarters.

898
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 7: Oh wow, good for him.

899
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: Now Rogers admits that he felt very queasy and he

900
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,320
said that for the minute he walked in the house,

901
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,119
he just felt very uneasy, and he said that his

902
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,440
experience in the attic was anything but mundane. He said

903
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,079
he heard many sounds that he couldn't identify, and he

904
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:43,920
also discovered a bunch of voices and stuff on some

905
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,199
recordings that he took that he didn't hear at the time,

906
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,440
but when he went back and played the recordings, he

907
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,559
could hear them.

908
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 7: Oh that's a nice surprise.

909
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. So stories from basically visitors and curiosity secres have

910
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:02,480
been total. Over the years, the old slave house has

911
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:06,320
been a frequent stopping point for paranormal investigators, psychic investigators,

912
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,599
and just about anybody interested in the supernatural. In nineteen

913
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:15,800
ninety six, Hickory was actually closed down due to the

914
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,559
declining health of mister and miss Sisk. In nineteen ninety nine,

915
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,719
it was purchased by the state and there are plans

916
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,159
to make it a historic site. They were actually so

917
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,159
they wanted to actually make it into a museum, but

918
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,599
because of the fact that there's museums closing down all

919
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:33,960
over the place and it was going to take about

920
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,360
seven million dollars a turn into the museum, they just

921
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,280
can't really justify spending that kind of money when there's

922
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,599
museums shutting down that don't have the money. Well, a

923
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:45,159
new one. But let's talk a little more about the hauntings,

924
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,440
because that's what most people seem to be interested in.

925
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:50,639
So because of the cruelty and the great suffering that

926
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,679
actually went on in the attic, there are many angry

927
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,800
spirits that live in there, I'm sure, and they're not

928
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,920
too fond of living people apparently either. They supposedly keep

929
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,559
a close eye to people who lived in the first

930
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,559
and second floors, and they do their best to chase

931
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,559
the living out of the attic any chance that they can. Obviously,

932
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,760
the case of one hundred and fifty people not being

933
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,920
able to spend the night, yeah, tells you that. And

934
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,920
we're going to have some cool stories about some of

935
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,000
those events. But during the day, tourists have actually felt

936
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:23,039
a growing chill as they're climbing the steps to get

937
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:26,159
to the attic. And then in nineteen sixty six, this

938
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,679
is like my favorite story on here, two Vietnam marines

939
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:31,880
decided they were going.

940
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,639
Speaker 7: To spend the night thank you for your service.

941
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Yes, this is before they actually stopped doing a tourist,

942
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,639
but they decided they were going to spend a night.

943
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,039
At one am, their Kerosene lamp started to flicker. That

944
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,119
was like they had was that lamp. There was a

945
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,519
terrible moan that reverberated all over the room and shook

946
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:51,320
the attic walls.

947
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.

948
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 2: Then they could hear several voices all talking at like

949
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,119
the same time, but they couldn't make out what they

950
00:47:58,159 --> 00:47:59,719
were saying. Yeah, they could make out what they were saying,

951
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,400
but they it was, like they said, there were so

952
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,679
many of them, you could even begin to tell how

953
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,360
many there was. They said. Then there was these ghostly

954
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,199
figures that started swirling around them, and the only light

955
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,960
they had, obviously was the karen Seene lamp. It suddenly

956
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:17,079
blew out. Then they heard a blood curdling scream and

957
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,199
it rang out all around them. They said, you couldn't

958
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,199
tell where it was coming from. They were so feared,

959
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,519
filled with panic and fright that they flew down the

960
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,079
stairs and just left.

961
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,559
Speaker 7: And held each other to protect each other.

962
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that they did or not. I'm guessing no,

963
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,760
yeah they are.

964
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

965
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,199
Speaker 2: Now, the Cis family, who actually on the mansion for

966
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,119
basically eighty years. It was in their family. They lived

967
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,480
on the first and second floor, like we said, and

968
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,440
they ran a little museum there for the longest time.

969
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,840
But they stayed on the first floor and they never

970
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,960
went to the attic at all.

971
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 10: Oh wow.

972
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: They said they respected the entities that were there. Mistress

973
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Sisk reported cold spots or mississisk I mean, she reported

974
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,480
cold spots even on very hot days. She said that

975
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,280
an icy chill would fill an entire room and they

976
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,960
had no ac Oh wow, Well.

977
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,159
Speaker 7: That's kind of a good thing, right you look at

978
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:11,760
the positives.

979
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,559
Speaker 2: But she said she had to quit taking baths because

980
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:18,880
she would be in the bathtub and she would hear

981
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,639
an unseen presence would call out her name, and then

982
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,400
she would run out to the hallway and there would

983
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,239
never be anybody there. So she quit taking baths. And

984
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,239
she said that her husband felt like, you know, between

985
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,119
the two of them, that they were constantly being watched.

986
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,519
So they learned to deal with the entities. And they

987
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,480
said that the entities learned to deal with them and

988
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,840
there was basically no harm ever done. It was just

989
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,599
some weird feelings. But that's the way they did it.

990
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,079
And we're going to end on this, we talked about

991
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,119
Hickman Withington. He was, you know, a little earlier on her.

992
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:57,320
He was the guy that was going to come in

993
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,960
there and chase them out. He was an exorcist, or

994
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,760
at least he claimed to be. He went to the

995
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,719
attic to chase off the entities, and after a short

996
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,039
time he ran from the mansion and died of fright

997
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:10,039
a few hours later.

998
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: What can you die right?

999
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,039
Speaker 2: You can die right? Oh, it's like I read something

1000
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,360
like there's like ten people who die right every year

1001
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,639
in the United States. Oh my gosh. So is it

1002
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,559
possible that what he saw was the same thing that

1003
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:24,320
the marine saw?

1004
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, man, That's that's pretty wicked.

1005
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,559
Speaker 2: Now. I told you I was going to tell you

1006
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,800
some other aspects of the story. I'm not going to

1007
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,480
get into a ton of details on this. But they're

1008
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,840
wanting to turn this into a museum. Now, if you're

1009
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,480
going to use it, if it's something's going to be

1010
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,599
a museum and a historic site, they want to make

1011
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:49,400
sure that the facts are the facts. So they've went

1012
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,119
back and they've heard some people from Southern Illinois University.

1013
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,280
You got a gentleman by the name of mister Wagner,

1014
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,000
who is I guess a professor archaeologist and all this stuff.

1015
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,920
And he's been in there doing an archaeological dig and

1016
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,679
they've uncovered stuff like their outhouse and all this stuff. Yeah,

1017
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:09,440
well they're talking about like their out house, Like this

1018
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,679
guy took his outthouse seriously, like it was a block.

1019
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,199
Most people had just a hole in the ground more

1020
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,960
or less, and you know, this guy had a block

1021
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:19,880
foundation around it. He had a mirror hanging on the wall,

1022
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,039
so he was pretty top notch. But what we're finding

1023
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:27,400
out is we know for a fact through the history

1024
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,760
through this guy that he definitely owned owned slaves. We

1025
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,039
know for a fact that he sold slaves, and he

1026
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,400
had many different quarter appearances over this. So he was

1027
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,239
still a jerk. There's no way of fans are about this.

1028
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:43,599
But he seems to think from what they're uncovering that

1029
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,559
the slave quarters upstairs maybe wasn't a slave quarters. He

1030
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,440
doesn't have any sign, he said. The carriage that we

1031
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:54,360
talked about the carriage being built to be able to

1032
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,000
go inside the house, he said, that's not the case.

1033
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,320
He said, when you look at it, it's designing to

1034
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480
go back there and actually designed to show off the

1035
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:05,480
fancy carriages that would be pulling up, so you would

1036
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:07,159
definitely be able to see the carriage as the way

1037
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,239
it set up, not going into a well. I mean,

1038
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,199
if that's what they were doing, trying to keep some secret,

1039
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,559
that would make sense, but he says that's not the

1040
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:18,000
way it was set up from what he's seeing. He's

1041
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,239
also saying that, like we said, out in the hallway,

1042
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,039
there was two whipping posts, but he says, like one

1043
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,000
of the things that's on display that says it's a

1044
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,840
whipping post, isn't a whipping post. He said, it's actually

1045
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:31,719
like a tool that you would make shingles with that's

1046
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,679
laying on its side, so it's not a whipping post.

1047
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:39,400
He also says that the rooms upstairs, though they are

1048
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,960
the tiny rooms and they are up there, he thinks

1049
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:46,880
that they are more made for indentured servants, which would

1050
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,840
be sort of like slaves. But an indentured servant would

1051
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,519
be somebody. Let's say that I told you, hey, I

1052
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,840
will come work for you, like mister Belvidere, I will

1053
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,760
come work for you for six months and basically whatever

1054
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,079
you tell me, and at the end of the six months,

1055
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:03,960
you're either gonna give me a piece of land or

1056
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,800
some money or something like that. So you would sign

1057
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,199
a contract stating that you agree to do that, but

1058
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,360
you would initiate that nobody's making you do it, like

1059
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,880
a slave situation, but that would be an indentured servant.

1060
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,559
And he seems to think that those quarters up there

1061
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:21,840
were made for people to spend the night if they

1062
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,920
were in helping to work in the mines. And then

1063
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,719
he said white or black. He doesn't necessarily think that

1064
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,719
it was strictly slaves or torture or anything. So there's

1065
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,320
no real proof, according to this guy, that there was

1066
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,960
anybody tortured or being kept up there against their will.

1067
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,000
He's not saying they haven't been. He can't say that

1068
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,159
there's nobody been held against their will. But he doesn't

1069
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,079
think that the stories that are out there about all

1070
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:48,199
the torturing and stuff like that, and the breeding, and

1071
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,159
he doesn't believe those to be the case. He thinks

1072
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,519
it was just basically sleeping quarters for people that were

1073
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:58,400
in town to try to help out work, and he

1074
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,280
was just giving them a place to stay, or indentured

1075
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,719
servants that he was hooking up in other places.

1076
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I hope that his story is the right story.

1077
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah so, well, I mean he seems to be pretty

1078
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,159
confident that that's the case. And to open a museum,

1079
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,719
he wants to make sure nothing said that's not true false.

1080
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,159
Yeah so, especially a state run museum. It's if it's

1081
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:23,599
not a state run museum, if it's Ripley's, you know,

1082
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:27,119
they don't care if it's true or not true. We don't. No,

1083
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,599
I'm pretty sure most of that stuff and Ripley's isn't

1084
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:34,599
all true. So anyways, that's the stories we got for you, guys.

1085
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,199
It's been a super fun week. Remember to send your

1086
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,880
answers to Hillbilly Horror Show or Hillbilly's Horror Stories on

1087
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,840
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1088
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,840
both's personalized voicemail.

1089
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:50,519
Speaker 6: Yep.

1090
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 7: Sounds great and we didn't mention.

1091
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: It before we added this is pretty pretty big For

1092
00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:59,639
those of you who wanted to have gone to Waverley

1093
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:03,280
tour April twenty eighth in Louisville. The live show still

1094
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,360
has some tickets left, not a ton but that still

1095
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,840
has tickets. But we had a seven thirty tour Waverley

1096
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,119
that sold out really quick. We've added a nine to

1097
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:16,960
thirty tour that night. Tracy and I are going on

1098
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,039
the tour. I'm not sure if the other two shows

1099
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:20,320
are gonna be able to stay that late to go

1100
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,400
on the other tour. It's possible they will. But if

1101
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,320
you want to still go to Waverley and you missed out,

1102
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,159
just go on the website Therealwaverly Hills dot com and

1103
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,079
go for the two hour tour at the nine to

1104
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:38,760
thirty PM on Saturday, April twenty eighth. And there's already

1105
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,840
been ten tickets so that there were only fifty available,

1106
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,599
So there are some spots now. So if you want

1107
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,199
to go, come to the live show and then hit

1108
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,880
the nine thirty the same night, and it's gonna be fun.

1109
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:50,519
Speaker 7: I go through twice.

1110
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:54,159
Speaker 2: You gotta go through twice. So that's what we got.

1111
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,159
I also remember, if you want to buy your Hillbilly

1112
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:58,559
Horror Story merchandise, we've got all the new logos and

1113
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,800
stuff Hillbilly hors Storre dot com. Go to the store

1114
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,599
and purchase whatever you want.

1115
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, that'd be great, And thank you guys again for

1116
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,599
your support.

1117
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: Now, I told you that we talked to Jackie and

1118
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:11,519
her friend Wendy the other day, and we're gonna throw

1119
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:14,000
that right here and we'll talk to you guys next week.

1120
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,119
Speaker 7: I love y'all.

1121
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: Hey guys, we got a special treat for you this

1122
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:21,840
week because we had some special visitors. We had Jackie

1123
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,840
Getz come down and her friend Wendy. Wendy, what's your

1124
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,719
last name? I pretend I didn't hear that. I could

1125
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,960
definitely pretend I can't spell it. Uh. They came down

1126
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,360
all the way from Wisconsin. What did you guys drive

1127
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,199
like eight hours? About eight hours basically just to come

1128
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,119
down here and eat dinner with us with some horrible spaghetti.

1129
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,199
Speaker 6: It was wonderful.

1130
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 8: We haven't even ate it yet.

1131
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 6: It was really good.

1132
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,599
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mean horrible in the sense of like

1133
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,719
you cooked it bad. I just meant it's probably not

1134
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:58,880
worth eight hours of driving for absolutely. I just meant

1135
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,079
I meant more less like plain spaghetti, not like you

1136
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:04,360
know something that you know Gordon Ramsay made.

1137
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we do appreciate it, and we're so excited

1138
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,000
you guys are here here. Yes, it's awesome.

1139
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: And tomorrow they're spending the night and tomorrow we're going

1140
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,679
to go to Bobby Mackey's. Now Originally we did this

1141
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,800
because Jackie was not going to be able to come

1142
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,599
to the Waverley because the Waverley tour was sold out,

1143
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:26,360
and so she said, hey, it's my birthday weekend. Let's

1144
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,960
set up a time and can we come down there.

1145
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,639
And we said, let's do it. Let's have some fun.

1146
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:32,519
So Jackie, happy birthday.

1147
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,159
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.

1148
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: Jackie appropriately came dressed and and that's why we drank shirt.

1149
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 8: Which that's fine because we love those girls.

1150
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:45,599
Speaker 2: That's fine. I like to go shopping at Home Depot.

1151
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:49,199
We're in a low shirt, so it's basically the same thing.

1152
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:53,519
But no, we love Christine and them, so that's so.

1153
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,199
As we've said a thousand times, there's no competition in

1154
00:57:57,239 --> 00:57:59,320
the podcast world. We're on one big happy family.

1155
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,039
Speaker 7: Are great, absolutely so wonderful.

1156
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: So Jackie, tell us a little bit about what you

1157
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,320
expect or hope to happen tomorrow night Atobby Mackie, because

1158
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,239
you've never been there before.

1159
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,159
Speaker 6: I'm excited just to for one, being hanging out with

1160
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:22,400
you guys and just having fun. Pretty damn cool. If

1161
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,480
we saw saw something or something freaky like touched.

1162
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Us or I'm all about something, Yeah, I.

1163
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 8: Think that was a hint towards you guys.

1164
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever it takes, I'm easy.

1165
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,079
Speaker 7: You know.

1166
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:46,039
Speaker 2: Some people say, you know, they talk about the bar,

1167
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,480
raising the bar. My bar is like on the ground.

1168
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,440
I just step right over top of it. I don't

1169
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,440
have I don't have much of a bar except in

1170
00:58:53,519 --> 00:59:01,400
wives and wives, I have an extremely high bar. So, Wendy,

1171
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,119
you were telling us a little story earlier you've had.

1172
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,480
You said you are a magnet for what was it?

1173
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 8: And even evil spirits.

1174
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,119
Speaker 6: They like to cling to me.

1175
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: So that's awesome that we're taking you there tomorrow night. Yeah,

1176
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,159
you're definitely maybe be great for y'all. I need you

1177
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:22,719
to trail about eight steps.

1178
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,199
Speaker 7: Behind, might be wise.

1179
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 6: I'll have my camera.

1180
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:31,079
Speaker 2: Jackie, you've had a bunch of experiences. You've been on

1181
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:35,320
the the Personal Stories episodes that we do for Patreon,

1182
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,320
so i'd imagine.

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Speaker 6: That this they kind of follow me too. They like

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to hang out around me, So that's awesome.

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Speaker 7: I guess.

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Speaker 6: The nicer ones usually hang around me. Wendy attracts the weirdos. Well,

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I'm you know, we're friends, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to say, so, have Christina and Am invited you

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,679
to their house for spaghetti just like I just wanted to,

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you know, I'm want to clarify that.

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01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:12,079
Speaker 6: Of course, they're out in California, so weather sure is

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a lot nic.

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01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure I wish we were out there.

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 8: And now I was telling her it was seventy degrees yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was like spring out here yesterday.

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,639
Speaker 8: It just changed.

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 6: We brought it down from Wisconsin and we're.

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Speaker 9: Sharing our weather.

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01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:29,079
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. A bunch of cold weather and cheese.

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That's what we need it.

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01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:31,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, cheese.

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01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 6: Sorry, we forgot, we failed. We are cheese.

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01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 8: We We'll take it.

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01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: And you were telling us a story about a closet earlier.

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01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness.

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01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,719
Speaker 9: Yes, I did not like closets or open doors, open cabinets,

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01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:51,679
because there's evil working all around. But when I was

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,480
I think I was eleven or twelve, and I was

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01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:57,039
at a friend's house and we were just we were

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01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:58,880
young kids. We were just messed around telling ghost stories,

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,599
and everyone else had fallen this sleep and my friend's

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01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:02,920
closet door never did shut.

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01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 6: It was there was a door, but it never would shut,

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01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:06,239
and they were all sleeping.

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,719
Speaker 9: All a sudden I saw red glowing eyes telling me

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01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:10,440
get out of my house.

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01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,239
Speaker 11: So I'm like freaking out and crying and screaming a

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01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:14,960
waking all the other girls up, and they like, think

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01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,000
I'm crazy. Turn the lights on and and obviously there's

1221
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:20,599
nothing there when they turn lights on, but there was

1222
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:25,480
something there. And I said, I want to call my mom,

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01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:26,000
and they're.

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,039
Speaker 9: Like, no, it's like one in the morning. We're not

1225
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:28,559
calling home.

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01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 11: You girls need to go back to bed, like the

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,000
parents are yelling at me, and.

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01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 10: I'm like, I just want to go home, and then

1229
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:43,159
you were like, see, what better time to make a sacrifice.

1230
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,159
Speaker 2: Well, ladies, we just want to say thank you for

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01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:52,519
coming down. It's fun. This is the first time we've

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01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:54,599
been able to interact with listeners that aren't just like

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01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:55,880
people in our family.

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01:01:57,079 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 7: Did you have a story?

1235
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,159
Speaker 8: Did you have a story?

1236
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,719
Speaker 7: I could tell a story.

1237
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,079
Speaker 6: It didn't really happen to me, but I was around

1238
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:03,880
when it happened.

1239
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 7: Stories.

1240
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 6: My grandfather passed away in a pretty violent car accident

1241
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,360
when I was like seven, and that summer we were

1242
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:18,880
going on a family vacation. I guess I got super

1243
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,159
sick from hay fever and we came back and we

1244
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:26,000
stayed at my grandparents' house. My grandma was gone, so

1245
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:29,800
it was just us in the house. We stayed upstairs,

1246
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,519
you know. It was the house that my dad kind

1247
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:34,360
of grew up in and stuff. But there was always

1248
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,280
weird activity. After my grandfather died, my aunt and uncle

1249
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,960
got married out there, and everybody's pictures had streaks running

1250
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:47,239
through them. Any pictures that were taken out at the

1251
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,559
farm had streaks running through them. I tried to ask

1252
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:52,960
my aunt about it, and she's like, I don't remember

1253
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:53,480
any of that.

1254
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 8: Can you remember that?

1255
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:57,719
Speaker 6: No, But it was really weird because it's really stuck

1256
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,079
in my head and my mom actually had pictures for

1257
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,920
the longest time, like hidden up in my closet in

1258
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,280
my bedroom with those streaks and stuff. And it was

1259
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,360
really really weird. But he was always around there. But anyway,

1260
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,239
we stayed overnight there, you know, to get me home,

1261
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:18,559
and my brother is a big sleepwalker, and that night

1262
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:21,199
he had gotten up and there was a huge crash

1263
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:24,920
and it woke everybody up. And he had gotten up

1264
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:28,440
and he had actually walked through a second story window

1265
01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:34,480
out onto a porch roof. Oh my gosh, but the

1266
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,360
window was broken inwards.

1267
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow.

1268
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,519
Speaker 6: And when everybody woke up. He was back laying in

1269
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:46,960
the bed, and everybody thought for sure Grandpa was the

1270
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,480
one that saw him going towards that window, came through

1271
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:52,800
the window and grabbed him and put him back in bed.

1272
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:59,400
So wo Yeah, and you know he followed me around

1273
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:02,920
for a very very long time until my grandma passed

1274
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,559
and no, he's not around me and he's with her now,

1275
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:13,800
but he protected Yeah, he protected everybody. It was amazing,

1276
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:21,599
great story. That's amazing. So actually had actually had a

1277
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:23,119
good ghost story there.

1278
01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:25,079
Speaker 2: Ones.

1279
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,559
Speaker 8: And so and then you said that when your grand

1280
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,800
grandmother passed away.

1281
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 6: Then my grandmother passed away three years ago, and it

1282
01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:39,440
is like within hours I didn't feel him around me anymore. Wow.

1283
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:42,320
It was like it was really hard for me for about.

1284
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:43,599
Speaker 2: A year after that to night.

1285
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 7: To get used.

1286
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 6: But then you were like they're together.

1287
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,199
Speaker 8: And that's yeah, that's amazing, amazing story.

1288
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:56,679
Speaker 2: Thank you. I love that. When I was always used

1289
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:58,119
to have a bunch of pictures with streaks in it

1290
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,360
and they said put your club, we're trying to take pictures.

1291
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,639
That's what I did.

1292
01:05:06,599 --> 01:05:07,599
Speaker 6: In the street.

1293
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 8: With words.

1294
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen on this show.

1295
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:26,320
Everything from he Haw and Andy Griffith, Torae Stevens stuff there.

1296
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: Now, that's talking about when times were simpler and you

1297
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,360
didn't worry about half the crap.

1298
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,159
Speaker 6: You have to worry about.

1299
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:36,719
Speaker 2: You you're still worried about crap. Back. I hope the

1300
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,440
milkman comes. We're out of milk.

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01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:42,119
Speaker 11: You know, when babies are running around naked all the time. Nowadays,

1302
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:44,199
you see a baby naked and everyone wants to call CP.

1303
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,559
Speaker 2: You know, I never understand we went. I remember when

1304
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:49,880
Kristen had her babies and we go to the hospital

1305
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,000
and they get all these naked pictures of babies all

1306
01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:53,760
over the wall, and that's art. But if it's in

1307
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,360
my house, somebody's calling, la.

1308
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna touch that.

1309
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,079
Speaker 9: And you know, you get pictures of babies in the

1310
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:09,599
bathtub and everyone's like, we'll make sure you have the watch, and.

1311
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got. You're gonna stop all this talk.

1312
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,960
I'm starting to crave subway. All right, guys, thank you,

1313
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:17,760
We'll see you soon.

1314
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:19,519
Speaker 6: Bye bye bye.

1315
01:06:21,159 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: Thy sure are so much fun to deal with. I'm

1316
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,480
so glad they came down. Thank you guys so much.

1317
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:29,079
You actually heard one of our brothers from the dark

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01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:33,800
myth Collective, the podcast earlier Secret Transmissions. Check those guys

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,440
out there, awesome. Here's another one I want you to

1320
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:39,360
check out. It's a little more different. It's not a

1321
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,159
paranormal podcast, but it's actually pretty cool. And this guy

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01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:44,719
is an awesome guy. So check zing out and his

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,840
podcast zing This.

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01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 11: Are you a fan of movies, or comics, or video

1325
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,920
games or just anything else nerdy.

1326
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, you should check out the zing This podcast and

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01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:03,119
that's spelled z eng this and you can find us

1328
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:06,599
every Monday, and we have nerdy topics from comic book

1329
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:11,000
reviews to in depth analysis of iconic nerdy movies as

1330
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,880
well as video game discussions. Where are some of the

1331
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,000
best places to find us Alley Well podbeing of course,

1332
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:21,119
you can also find us on iTunes, Stitcher, google.

1333
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,199
Speaker 3: Play, anywhere else you listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so check us out once again.

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Speaker 6: That is sing This