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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera on

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<v Speaker 2>Thank good, afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're

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<v Speaker 2>Dave silver back again. Henry, you're with me. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>both of you guys for not entering the transfer portal today.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, there's still time though, isn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's well, well, yet you do it after five o'clock. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do it after five o'clock. How do you even do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there like a form you fill out?

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<v Speaker 2>There must be don't even look at I need you both.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are my fafita and whoever's left. Yeah, yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 2>I wishure there's going to be thirty people by now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at the list. It's it's quite a lineup.

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<v Speaker 5>It really is. At least thirty, I think, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the key people. Dave I said this to

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<v Speaker 2>you yesterday. There had to be issued during the year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they didn't play hard for him. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's funny because they sure wanted to be here

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of the year. True, after the way

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<v Speaker 5>things went last year and then the way things kind

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<v Speaker 5>of turned this season off they go.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how much money left the building?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean in I l oh and I know, really,

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<v Speaker 4>how does this?

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<v Speaker 5>I would it would be fun to try to get

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<v Speaker 5>an idea on what this all means with an il.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Okay, they lost let's say, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>a couple million dollars probably at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would think, yeah, they have to get

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<v Speaker 2>it back. No, no services have been rendered, whether they

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<v Speaker 2>were poor for services, that's the whole thing. I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how they get paid too, because you get it

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<v Speaker 2>paid up front. Well, I might call him sick tomorrow, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I did for seven, ten weeks whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever weeks. They were very strange. How much

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<v Speaker 2>is not strange? This is not strange to me. With

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<v Speaker 2>people leaving like crazy, how much money has left the building.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guarantee you if I were Dave Silver and

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<v Speaker 2>I had the money to give, I ain't given it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, really what happened to that?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, two hundred thousand dollars I just gave to

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<v Speaker 5>ex player who's now going to be, you know, going

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<v Speaker 5>to Fresno State or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So I won't ask you specifics, but i'll ask you

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<v Speaker 2>the question. So, when you went out and you did

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<v Speaker 2>your philanthropy work for you, eh, did they? I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you had to have run into mister big shot, mister

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<v Speaker 2>big money Dave. If you recall you were here last

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<v Speaker 2>year and I gave the money and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's part of the.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess not I don't want to call it a trick,

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<v Speaker 5>but a part of the just the way you worked philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 5>In most cases you did not necessarily go straight back

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<v Speaker 5>to the person who just gave you a nice gift

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<v Speaker 5>the year before. You have to let it kind of

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<v Speaker 5>sit and you have to make sure it gets used correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do they know you have to show up? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to show them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's ways you can kind of play Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we gave the scholarship money to this the student, and

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<v Speaker 5>this is that they worked on, and this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 5>or this we gave money for research, and this is

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<v Speaker 5>what the professor worked on.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to steward that money.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really important as part of the whole you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>circle of philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to call it a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 2>to call it a circle of something.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, again with with giving to athletics, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it's just well, how did the team play?

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<v Speaker 2>Not not that.

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<v Speaker 5>Really your money is going to necessarily affect that unless

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<v Speaker 5>you're getting you know, Kareem Abdul Jabbar to come back

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<v Speaker 5>to college or something like that, who's going to have

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<v Speaker 5>huge impact.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not necessarily a certain that the money you're buying,

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<v Speaker 2>you're buying talent, right, that's what you're hoping to buy talent,

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<v Speaker 2>good talent, that it equates to good money goes to

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<v Speaker 2>good talent, right, or makes it good talent. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there was a well there's been a few places

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<v Speaker 2>where you paid good money and it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Utah utah the quarterback. Oh yeah, I mean I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you got a ton of money, yep, and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't play. But a little yeah. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>think about what what Brennan is going through now.

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<v Speaker 5>He's you know, he's got these what twenty recruits He's

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<v Speaker 5>going to lose you know as of now, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like around thirty players, and he's got the portal to

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<v Speaker 5>work with. Right, it's I know he has like a

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<v Speaker 5>general manager in that office who's in charge of all

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<v Speaker 5>this looking around and okay, we just lost you know,

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<v Speaker 5>four tight ends, or we just lost four defensive backs

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<v Speaker 5>and now we've got to go get four more defensive backs.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's right, and we have these new kids coming,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know who knows well the funny the thing

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<v Speaker 5>I won't say funny because it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not funny. Other schools like Arizona are going through

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, right, Arkansas. I saw some news today

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<v Speaker 2>similar situations. More than twenty five kids are leaving. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's happy, Dave, right, No one's happy with their situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And just because you go here and there and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, it doesn't make you happy again.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is what everybody wants, instant gratification.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you have a bad season and the team

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't perform, and you you know, you're now giving the

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<v Speaker 5>freedom to just pick up and go. It's just the

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<v Speaker 5>way things are.

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<v Speaker 2>One are the things that I can't remember who said

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<v Speaker 2>this had to be months ago? One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>lost in all this Okay, you have a kid who's

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<v Speaker 2>transferred here, transferred there, even if it's one or twice

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<v Speaker 2>the education, So where did you get his degree? If

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<v Speaker 2>he gets his degree, right, not that that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal anymore, because you know how you know, the trades

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<v Speaker 2>are saying you're making more money with us than you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, honestly, I mean I talked jokingly with Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>and Henry kind of made me maybe look bad yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>as we were leaving and talking about the journalism world.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, Steve reminded me of it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember where you said? You remember we were

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<v Speaker 2>leaving when yesterday when we were leaving, I was scited

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<v Speaker 2>about journalism and how tough of this And he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve reminds me all the time how difficult it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, you know, and that's just that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's other fields that are tough too, because Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>how many kids do you know who've graduated in the

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<v Speaker 2>last year or so who aren't in their field? Majority

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<v Speaker 2>of its exactly exactly and not because they didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there was no chance.

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<v Speaker 5>That's you know, what do you do when you're majoring

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<v Speaker 5>in you know, English or history or sociology something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you what's the what's you say?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell are you thinking? Well, my son graduated

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<v Speaker 2>with a political science degree. Luckily he landed. Okay, but okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 5>And journalism is not you know, it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a you know, quote unquote glamorous job. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people think it is. And then you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>see the reality, well, well can be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Let you go there with you because you you have

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<v Speaker 2>a different reality than my reality. And you you you

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<v Speaker 2>intern kids right enough that I want to get this

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<v Speaker 2>into a journalism type thing. For those listeners they come

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<v Speaker 2>in and they have these white eyes, right, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the next crunk uh miss what's your name

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<v Speaker 2>from Shuttle four? I was gonna say Salas, no, no

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<v Speaker 2>no from from knowing MB Savannah Gustrie not knowing the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you have to do. She went to college

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<v Speaker 2>to she went to college to get a degree, but

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<v Speaker 2>she went to law school and all that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>people don't talk about that. They want to be the

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<v Speaker 2>next that, right because they see making millions data duh,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's billions of miles away from that, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>now you're carrying your cameras, you're chasing stuff, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing stuff you don't want to do, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>dog catcher type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, things are a lot different, for sure. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>it's not very glamorous at the beginning. And you can,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if you if you're good and you work

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<v Speaker 5>your way through and you you know, improve, it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to take you know, a good number of years, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>five years, until you maybe sort of hit it big

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<v Speaker 5>where you can move on to a bigger market. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, basically, when you're coming out of no matter

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<v Speaker 5>where you're coming out of, if you're coming out of

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<v Speaker 5>a school in la or Tucson or Missouri, Missouri, someplace,

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<v Speaker 5>you've got to start somewhere and landing that first job.

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<v Speaker 5>I always tell the interns that I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just just getting the door. You know, don't don't worry

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<v Speaker 5>about what the exact role is going to be. Remember

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<v Speaker 5>my mom back in the day, you know, way you

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<v Speaker 5>can sweep the floors at the radio station. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe not, but it's kind of the kind of I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of got that impression from her. You know, just

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<v Speaker 5>just find that job, whether you know it's part time

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<v Speaker 5>or something, just to kind of get your you know,

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<v Speaker 5>foot in the door, right, that's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and being good Like I'm doing the evaluations for

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<v Speaker 2>Henry and the rest of the guys. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this just show would not be going on. How to

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<v Speaker 2>not have these guys given what they know what they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing for her? Yeah, you know it's important, Yeah, it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>And who knows. I hope that's why they do a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>because they can do a lot when they leave. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell, my time's near the end. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to know. Although although what i'm by myself, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell am I doing?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm getting back to what you were saying, you know before,

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<v Speaker 5>about loyalty to the university or loyal loyal to their schools.

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<v Speaker 5>What's that going to be like for some of these

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<v Speaker 5>guys who've gone to three or four different colleges, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I'll go back to my reunion college too. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, how's that going to play?

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<v Speaker 2>You see the guys that NFL Steve rivera University of whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it is elementary school, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>I like when they do the high school, you know

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<v Speaker 5>that that's probably as far as they got with their

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<v Speaker 5>degree anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, So we'll see what happens and who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be left. I think is there a deadline for this?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a month or a week or more? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it opens up again in the spring.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it ends pretty soon. I mean, it's got to.

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<v Speaker 2>so the guys get into a trackple, how many people

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<v Speaker 4>A lot?

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's usually what happens by the spring. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>A room at their old school, Yeah, would you take back? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, no, in Arizona. I think Jason Gardner did

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's still time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still time. I'll say the butt again. If you

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<v Speaker 2>to be any better, yeah, you're the same player.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty much. Should be fun this weekend. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to the U c l A.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got?

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<v Speaker 6>What you got?

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna be with.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, There're gonna You're gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be there. I think they're gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that. I say that for one reason. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>if if if Cronin slows it down, that's what he

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, he wants the game in the fifties

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<v Speaker 4>or sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>So if it stays in the sixties, Arizona doesn't win

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<v Speaker 2>that game, and people will give me crap if they win.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it gets in the seventies, maybe Arizona wins. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's not enough sample size to say

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<v Speaker 2>they can get out of it because they haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what I was gonna say too, I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't really seen UCLA. I guess is the records good?

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, you know, who have they been playing that

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<v Speaker 2>But well on Arizona two, and.

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<v Speaker 5>That just you know, I mean, everyone's gonna get up

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<v Speaker 5>if everyone's fired up at the beginning. It's exciting right

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<v Speaker 5>off the top. And then well we'll settle settle into things.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, let's go a review today's today's show. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have Pete Williams, former U of A basketball player.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he kind of I call him the cornerstone to

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<v Speaker 2>the program. The granddaddy of them all, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was the first guy, him and Eddy Smith

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<v Speaker 2>class and may kind of started making Arizona what it

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<v Speaker 2>is today. He posted some stuff yesterday. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're friends with him on facebok, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>he had a twenty rebound game and seventeen points.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I did see that.

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<v Speaker 2>This was This was thirty forty years ago. Yeah, forty

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that Eddie Smith game, the A SU game

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<v Speaker 5>was what that was in eighty three or eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty four?

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<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, yeah, we're talking forty years and people

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<v Speaker 5>still remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I remember.

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<v Speaker 5>It watching it or it was your first year here, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>But I think I was at the station. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think I was. I was not at that game, but

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<v Speaker 5>I was at a lot of other A issue games.

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<v Speaker 2>You did the football stuff? Did you do the basketball?

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<v Speaker 2>No game show? Who did that? There was?

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<v Speaker 4>Say it wasn't on our station, Oh it was, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the time. There was someone who.

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<v Speaker 5>Did a show later on our station. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>at the time it might have been on Channelly eleven.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say, who's the guy Kent? Kent diurd

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<v Speaker 5>of honest, was that the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so that was way back because I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>that name out because he was great. He did a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of basketball here, covered the Kansas City Royals. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I think something like that in the Midwest. He definitely

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<v Speaker 2>had Phoenix ties.

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<v Speaker 5>He did Anau I think, yeah, maybe after Arizona, but not.

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<v Speaker 2>The Google descenaries that. Maybe I'll try to find him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna be here at three seventeen Pete will

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<v Speaker 2>and then in the other hour we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Lamont love It. We've talked to him a few

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to get his talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>to get his thoughts on the transfers. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just not you know, Steve Rivera and Henry. This

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, the big dudes. This is the big

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good show Davis and Davis.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you mean in terms of the guy's leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy's leaving. I said, you know what the gunner.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, some of these guys were big stars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>two quarterbacks one neither of them did anything as far

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<v Speaker 2>as you know performing here, none of them did anything, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they finished forty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm trying to think who's in there.

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<v Speaker 5>Kean Burnette, you know, had a couple of good games,

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<v Speaker 2>And his dad was a huge dude here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the lineman that's kind of sad, Wendel Mow and

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs and o's. This is High

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve RIVERTA. He's Dave Silvert.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on the phone. We have the cornerstone, Pete Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, Pete?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>How you guys doing it right here? Dave Silver them out?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here, Yes, I'm here, Dave.

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<v Speaker 13>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Pete? How are you?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm hanging in there, my man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great, congratulations on the grandchild.

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<v Speaker 15>Hey, I've got two of them now, man, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. Look at this six foot eight How tall

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<v Speaker 2>are you? Six foot night exleven six cent. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you a little more this this tough dude, he's mister

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<v Speaker 2>mushy now.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh absolutely, man, I'm a I'm a cream puff. But

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<v Speaker 13>I still got that lion in me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you showed you yesterday. I mean, come on, it

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<v Speaker 2>was seventeen points twenty boards forty forty years ago. Forty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, that's crazy. How fast time? It's long unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but did you remember that like yesterday?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>Because I know Loyola Marrimount actually recruited me at one

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<v Speaker 13>point and I still remember in the in the in

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<v Speaker 13>the falk spring of eighty three. You know they're gonna

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<v Speaker 13>get they're gonna give me like a little job at

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<v Speaker 13>this part, you know, by my house, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 13>have to do nothing, to just sit it the park,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, which would have been pretty cool. But I

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<v Speaker 13>like the way things turned out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>What it's pretty What do you mean by pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 13>I had just said at the park and getting paid?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, did you did you ever remember seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>movie one on one with Henry with with Henry Steele

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<v Speaker 2>It was Robbie Benzon Benson. Yeah, I remember that getting

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<v Speaker 2>paid to look mulderlaan or to one of the grass

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<v Speaker 2>with automatic sprinklers.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, when it comes to manual labor, I don't want

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<v Speaker 13>to do none of that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no. You would have wanted the gas,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was automatic sprinklers. You didn't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 15>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that kind of stuff really happening in the early eighties?

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<v Speaker 2>Were those seventies seventies?

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<v Speaker 13>Well that but you know, like John Edgar and Eddie

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<v Speaker 13>Smith and some of the football players, those guys had

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<v Speaker 13>real jobs. They worked construction for uh, I forgot what

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<v Speaker 13>what big alumnus from Tucson they worked construction. So they

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<v Speaker 13>they did real manual They got paid great, but they

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<v Speaker 13>did some real manual labor though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the good old bad days. Now now you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be killing it.

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<v Speaker 15>It'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 13>But I like to think I'll still be able to

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<v Speaker 13>maintain that same work ethic.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>True. Hey, great point, because I talk about all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting hate to do this, And now what are

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on the kids leaving for football, from football

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<v Speaker 2>to go somewhere else leaving well? Because the yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate it, you know I do.

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<v Speaker 15>It's just.

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<v Speaker 14>For me personally.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, my allegiance to the U of A will

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<v Speaker 13>never stay. But it's just, uh, it's just tough to

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<v Speaker 13>have that allegiance as wholeheartedly as as I once did

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<v Speaker 13>when guys just take off and the majority of the

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<v Speaker 13>time it is, you know, pretty much about about the money.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, I get playing time here and there, times

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<v Speaker 13>and change, but I don't like it one bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you. You obviously very famous of coming in with Eddie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think mister Tate correct, Yeah, do you still talk

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<v Speaker 2>to mister Tate?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, you know, Michael Sate and I we grew up

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<v Speaker 13>together in Conftence, so we used to have sleepovers and

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<v Speaker 13>we were like, uh, I was in the when I

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<v Speaker 13>was in the fifth grade.

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<v Speaker 15>Michael was in the third.

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<v Speaker 13>So I stayed in this tablehood for four years and

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<v Speaker 13>Michael lived like it's not even a fool, like a

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<v Speaker 13>half a block around the corner. Yeah, Me and Michael

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<v Speaker 13>real cool. But you know, Mike's falling on a hard times.

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<v Speaker 15>As far as health issues.

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<v Speaker 13>It just just heart breaks my heart, man, because uh,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, Mike has suffered a series of strokes years

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<v Speaker 13>ago or whatever. And I will say the last time

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<v Speaker 13>I spoke to him, he was better than I expected,

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<v Speaker 13>but still a long way.

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<v Speaker 15>From being you know, the Michael Tate that I've always

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<v Speaker 15>grew up in love. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, he was good. That was such an interesting time.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, not to compare Mike.

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<v Speaker 13>Mike was going to be the face of the program. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, he really would. You know, they had that

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<v Speaker 13>billboard and him on Speedway advertising Arizona basketball. And even

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<v Speaker 13>when he left to go to Clemson, I would tell him.

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<v Speaker 14>Mike, you got a billboard on speedway.

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<v Speaker 13>Like Mike billboard? I said, Mike, do you understand it's

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<v Speaker 13>a billboard?

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<v Speaker 15>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Why why did he leave? I can't remember the circumstances

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<v Speaker 5>around that.

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<v Speaker 13>Was, well, you know what happened was you know when

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<v Speaker 13>Craig and Billing came in, because you know that first

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<v Speaker 13>year Mike and Mike and uh Rock Bronkers one point

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<v Speaker 13>point guards. They started at guard spot and Steve Curb

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<v Speaker 13>was the first got off the bench. So when we

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<v Speaker 13>signed Craig, coach Austin will have Steve and from Craig

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<v Speaker 13>compete for the two and Mike and Brock compete for

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<v Speaker 13>the one. And you know, Mike was offerings from pack

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<v Speaker 13>In Packed Can team the year before Mike, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>but Rock Rock beat him out fair and square, and

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<v Speaker 13>to Steve credit a lot of propert Steed and Steve

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<v Speaker 13>beat out Grab mc millans. But actually, I just think

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<v Speaker 13>coach Oshin was a little a little overly harsh on

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<v Speaker 13>Mike as far as the criticized, and I think he

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<v Speaker 13>kind of went a little overboard. But that wasn't just

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<v Speaker 13>that Mike's dad got involved, and Mike's dad really is

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<v Speaker 13>the one that.

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<v Speaker 15>Kind of encouraged him to leave. And to this day, Mike.

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<v Speaker 13>Will tell you one the biggest regrets you ever had

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<v Speaker 13>was leading even though you know he had a great

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<v Speaker 13>career at Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we talked about a lot of people. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the people who leave, uh the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Shawn Allen's, the the dude who leaved there was

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<v Speaker 2>Edrew bo'hannon's eventually say you don't what I could have

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<v Speaker 2>stated one more year just to you know, write it out.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean there were a number of players kind of

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<v Speaker 5>in that early like the first ten years of coach Olsen,

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<v Speaker 5>there were probably a pretty good number of players that

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<v Speaker 5>went off. You know, he was recruiting good players and

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<v Speaker 5>then the competition was picking up, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>come here, you think you're gonna play, and it just

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't work out. So there were a number of guys

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<v Speaker 5>that left. I guess that was just.

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<v Speaker 13>We've had some great players come through there. But I'm

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<v Speaker 13>just kind of disappointed that we and so many people

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<v Speaker 13>in Tucson really didn't didn't get a chance.

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<v Speaker 15>To see the real Richard Hollis play. Yes, because rich was.

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<v Speaker 13>A monster, but you know, rich never made his mile

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<v Speaker 13>time and then the back issues and one thing held

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<v Speaker 13>to another, he left.

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<v Speaker 14>I think he ended up going.

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<v Speaker 13>To some Juco and en over at Houston still had

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<v Speaker 13>a pretty good rich Is and Damon. Damon thought him

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<v Speaker 13>I'll tell you, Damon. Rich was one of Damon's heroes

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<v Speaker 13>coming up.

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<v Speaker 15>Rich He was that dude, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember going up because I'm not too much younger

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<v Speaker 2>than you guys, and I remember like reading the Street

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<v Speaker 2>and Smith or whatever was Richard Hollis. Back then, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like the best player to ever play here. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I remember reading stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 13>As far as talent, he put it up there, arguably

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<v Speaker 13>talented as anybody to come through. Unfortunately he never got

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<v Speaker 13>a chance to play a game there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a ref though, now, isn't he? He was a

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<v Speaker 2>ref Richard how I don't think that would be comical

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think so. I thought I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. So odd that he became a ref

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the college level with the pro level.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to google that, but it's not the.

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<v Speaker 13>Pro level, and I see, I would be absolutely shocked

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<v Speaker 13>if Richard Hollis is refereeing anywhere, let alone a high

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<v Speaker 13>school college approgram.

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<v Speaker 6>Start.

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Edgson was doing that still, I try to get

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<v Speaker 2>him on the show. He had to go to like

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<v Speaker 2>Yuma to cover a game. Yeah, yeah, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you've been watching the Arizona team. What are your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, what do we begin? We have we have

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<v Speaker 2>about seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, it's it's here.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm an eternal optimist.

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<v Speaker 13>I know what it's like that the struggle and the

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<v Speaker 13>team finds itself and you can see the market improvement,

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<v Speaker 13>and then they just kind of take off, you know.

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<v Speaker 13>So I've kind of been through that, you know. But

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<v Speaker 13>the one thing with us back then is, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>for us, it was never a lack of effort. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>we were just trying to start a whole new culture,

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<v Speaker 13>you know.

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<v Speaker 14>So that was the big difference this team here.

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<v Speaker 13>I I questioned the parts that the parts don't seem

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<v Speaker 13>to fit right, you know, on paper demands as far

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<v Speaker 13>as go.

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<v Speaker 15>To three guards.

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<v Speaker 13>You look at Bradley Love and and uh so good players,

626
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<v Speaker 13>very good players, but collectively on the court at the

627
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<v Speaker 13>same time, it doesn't seem to be a fit, particularly

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<v Speaker 13>on the offensive end of the court, you know, because

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<v Speaker 13>the perimeter shooting is so inconsistent, and uh we it

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<v Speaker 13>seems we have to work too hard to get a basket.

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<v Speaker 13>That that part is kind of frustrating, because I would

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<v Speaker 13>think as much as they played together, the flow would

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<v Speaker 13>be so much better, and then you're throwing a part

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<v Speaker 13>where the big guys really haven't made the improvement that

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<v Speaker 13>I think many of us kind of expected.

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<v Speaker 15>It's it's just not a good fit.

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<v Speaker 13>But as I said, I still think we got time

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<v Speaker 13>to fix this thing. You know, I'm not one of

639
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<v Speaker 13>the abandon ship and I think if we get things

640
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 13>uh head and the right direction, we can make a

641
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 13>little run.

642
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 5>Is there a key to the defensive problems that they've

643
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 5>had where they're you know, having trouble garden the three

644
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 5>things like that?

645
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>What can what have you done?

646
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 13>And it can't be a curse against Arizona. It's to me,

647
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 13>it's just it's about effort. Like when I watch a

648
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 13>game on TV and we're on a defensive end, I'm

649
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 13>not just watching the guys who's guarding the ball. I'm

650
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 13>kind of scanning to see where other players are. And

651
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 13>oftentimes I find that, you know, we just have guys

652
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 13>getting the spot late, you know, than when they should be,

653
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 13>you know, And to me, that's very fixable. But you

654
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 13>got to have some motivation to get out there and

655
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 13>do it. You know. I'm sure they're being talked about

656
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.160
<v Speaker 13>it in practice and film sessions and this and that,

657
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 13>but then get on the court and.

658
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 14>Execute, you know, the mistakes you've been previously making.

659
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 13>And now it's just it kills me to see everybody

660
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 13>just seemed to seat the lights.

661
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 14>Out against us, but we have a hard time making

662
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 14>it three.

663
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 2>No, I thought your valuation just just a moment ago

664
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about how difficult it looks or appears for them

665
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>to score, just to score. And my biggest issue, and

666
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I've said this now three days in a row, it

667
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have that signature thing that the Loodles and teams had,

668
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>that transition points. You know, that fifteen to two run

669
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>or the twenty to four run, you know those big runs.

670
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 13>I called that that vaunted Arizona runs. I think coach

671
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 13>Lloyd brought back, you know, the first few years. You know,

672
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 13>it was such a pleasure to see that vaunted Arizona run.

673
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 13>This one right here, I'm just not sure because I

674
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 13>just don't know if we have the the offensive capabilities

675
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 13>to do that. I mean, you know, if Caleb could

676
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 13>show a little more consistency, because I think he is

677
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 13>obviously our best score.

678
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 15>He's just been so daang inconsistent.

679
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 13>And you know, him getting back on track would would

680
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 13>be a great start, you know. But yeah, that's what

681
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 13>I'm waiting for. See, but I used to love watching

682
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 13>the Cats. Didn't care what the score was whatever. He

683
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 13>knew at some point that vaunted Arizona run was coming.

684
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Right.

685
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 5>There's something about a Zula's Tobellus too. We kind of

686
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 5>forget how good he was on the run for a

687
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 5>big guy, I mean.

688
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 13>The floor, the floor, and then even when he got

689
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 13>the ball down on the block, he knew what to

690
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 13>do with it.

691
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 15>If he got up the high.

692
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 13>Coast, he knew he was going left, and yet nobody

693
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 13>could stop him, you know.

694
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I asked this of Meilbox yesterday as as

695
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just a question, maybe an observation question. Uh,

696
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>as Caleb goes, Arizona goes.

697
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 13>Steve, Uh, I'm gonna sign off on that and say, yes,

698
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 13>you know, he's gotta he's gotta fight his work his

699
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 13>way through this.

700
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:47.799
<v Speaker 15>And you know, I don't want to be one of those.

701
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 13>Okay, he has one good game, two good games, and

702
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 13>he's back and of a sudden goes back to with

703
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 13>any consistency, the the for shot making or shot taking

704
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 13>and all that type of stuff. He's what a fifth

705
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 13>year senior. Now that correct, that old jumps that should

706
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 13>be out the window. Now he's got to be more efficient.

707
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 13>For this team to go anywhere, he has to be

708
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 13>more efficient. Another point I'd like to make is, you know,

709
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 13>Carter Bryant, Hey, he's oppressed and he needs to play,

710
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 13>you know, if he if we got to be paid

711
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 13>up to let him work through his mistakes and everything

712
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 13>or whatever, because he is the.

713
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 15>Most talented individual on that team.

714
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 13>Granted he's young or whatever, but he needs to play

715
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 13>and he's unfortunately he's not to grow.

716
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 15>Up pretty fast.

717
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 13>And if he does, that's another element, you know, that'll

718
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 13>be a big bonus for us.

719
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, what did you what was your observation yesterday?

720
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Te him what you thought about Brian because.

721
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 5>It's he was somewhat hesitant, obviously a little bit timid,

722
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 5>but I mean there were a couple of shots he

723
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 5>made early in the season and maybe he's even back

724
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 5>in the exhibition games where he looked, Wow, this guy's

725
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 5>got some you know, interest in in you know, some

726
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 5>intensity if you will, But then it went away.

727
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>He kind of went away. But he also has not

728
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the minutes.

729
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, I guess that's one of those things where

730
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 5>if you get out there and you don't perform in

731
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>the first you know, two minutes you're out there.

732
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 13>Yet, because you know, just making a three that's not enough.

733
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 13>He saw something like you mentioned Dave earlier in the season.

734
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.240
<v Speaker 13>I saw him like one or two dribbles, pull up

735
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 13>shoot fifteen eighteen footer. I love that, and he's capable

736
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 13>of doing.

737
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 15>Stuff like that. But he has to be on the

738
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 15>floor more.

739
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 14>He has to because you know, I said, the big.

740
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 13>Guys, I mean, they're good players, but they haven't progress

741
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 13>to what I thought. I'm not saying I thought it

742
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 13>would be dominant low post players, but I thought they'd

743
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 13>be more efficient than what they are. Get the ball,

744
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 13>turn over, right shoulder, you know, jump puck or left

745
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 13>shoulder jump huck, turn around jumper, drop step, power to

746
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 13>the bucket, you know, and they're not. Obviously they're not

747
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 13>the most athletic people around, but come on, man, seven

748
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 13>foot anything around that rim, you should be trying to

749
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 13>tear that thing down.

750
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So do you still keep in contact with your former

751
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>UCLA you know, competition from back in the day.

752
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 13>Well other than Brad Right, you know, the former center

753
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 13>used to lay. You know, we still talk one from

754
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 13>the Blue Moon Brad. Brad is doing well, you know,

755
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 13>we talked to me.

756
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 15>Now, but he would be the only one.

757
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 1>You know.

758
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>The reason is that this is another big weekend. And

759
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>let me say this U C. L A. You know,

760
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the rivalry is still there. Obviously they're going to try

761
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>to play it as often as they can. But and

762
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that Arizona has a good chance to lose

763
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>this game because it's UCLA does the kryptonite, slows the

764
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>ball down, makes them play in the half court limits

765
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>and transition, and.

766
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 14>They're playing pretty well right now too.

767
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, what was it like, what was that like

768
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 5>early in your time here against UCLA, because that I

769
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 5>mean they were they were pretty good, right were they?

770
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, considered better than Arizona where you you were

771
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 5>kind of part of that transition time where.

772
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 4>It kind of flipped.

773
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, the first couple of years, of course they were.

774
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 13>And I still remember when I was a sophomore in

775
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 13>Juco the Lindy year where they beat you of ade

776
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 13>something like one hundred and something, the fifty something, you know,

777
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 13>and then uh, first time we played them, McHale, I

778
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 13>think we lose about.

779
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 15>Four or six.

780
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 14>But for us, even though Cocho.

781
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 13>Then could care less about a moral victory, for us,

782
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 13>it was kind of in a sense, you know, a

783
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 13>moral victory the way we played, because you know, we competed,

784
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 13>we just weren't. We weren't nearly as talented as they were,

785
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 13>and we were still trying to learn the whole culture

786
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 13>winning based on what they did the previous year.

787
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 15>But yeah, they they were.

788
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 13>They were superior to us that first year. Second year,

789
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 13>things evened.

790
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Out, and that second year, you guys wont the well,

791
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 2>you're on the verge of I won't even go through

792
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>that story.

793
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 15>I don't want to be there.

794
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah on't you mad at me? But I've had you

795
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>mat at me too many times. But eventually they took over.

796
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know the legendary story. Bobby had the

797
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>game program with her, she went to John Wooden to

798
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>sign it because that was when there was finally one

799
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>that won the league.

800
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 15>Yeah eighty six.

801
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you that story off the air.

802
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 13>I would I would have loved to been a part

803
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 13>of that because you know, John Acker, they tell me

804
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 13>the stories. But just when they came back. You know,

805
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 13>some people, some people that meet them at the airport

806
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 13>and everything, and how exciting that whole deal was. I

807
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 13>could I can only imagine, you know, yeah, yeah, and

808
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 13>to wrap.

809
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 15>It up in Pauli of all places, you know, that

810
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 15>was the best.

811
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well you were I knew I wasn't at the game,

812
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 5>but I was covering it in those years, right right, right, No, I'm.

813
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure it was was the rivalry, you know, because you

814
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Arizona's like the little brother, right trying to take take

815
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>over and take over. How was that because now it's

816
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Arizona used to be, you know, we're the king.

817
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 14>Well, I would say.

818
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 13>Bye bye Sean Elliott's junior year. You know, I won't

819
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 13>say vaunted way ahead, but I think they moved ahead.

820
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 13>And then but then you look at um throughout the nineties,

821
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 13>it was arguably Arizona, U, C l A and Stafford,

822
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 13>right pretty nineties or whatever. But you know, again, and

823
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 13>it's understandable it with coach Olson just getting started, you know, no,

824
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 13>we were in nobody's conversation.

825
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 15>But but but they knew.

826
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 13>I knew Awakening was coming based on how competitive we

827
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 13>were that first year. You know, the second year we

828
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.840
<v Speaker 13>to play with anybody out there. But that first year,

829
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 13>it was understandable. But I think I think one of

830
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 13>the one of the reasons why people liked us so

831
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 13>much because the previous year they didn't even compete. We

832
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 13>compete against everybody, you know, and even though the record

833
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 13>didn't reflect, you know, as far as with the number

834
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 13>of wins, you could see saying you the guard was

835
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 13>gonna eventually be coming.

836
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that was you, That was Eddie. Who else

837
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 4>was in that screw?

838
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

839
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 13>And I think about just you know, if we hadn't

840
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 13>lost Mike, if we hadn't lost Rich, if Brock hadn't

841
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 13>missed six games that year, if Morgan hadn't had a

842
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 13>couple of academic issues that year, or whatever.

843
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Ah, then that way.

844
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 13>John Eggert couldn't always be clown to me about he's

845
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 13>the only one that had the pack of pat ken ring.

846
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, right right, You're always gonna get grief every

847
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>opportunity he gets.

848
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 6>He tried to rub it in my face too.

849
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me let me before we leave. I wanted

850
00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:59.519
<v Speaker 2>to touch you real quick, just get an answer, because

851
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 2>you're you're your Your love for the man was very,

852
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>very deep and well documented in one of my in

853
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>my books. Uh I'm sure you still miss Luke. Could

854
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:11.599
<v Speaker 2>you talk to him a lot? Oh yeah, And here's

855
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the deal.

856
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 13>I'm I'm in a good place right now because you know,

857
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 13>I've told the story of many I told the story

858
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 13>often that you know, when I talk about Coach Olsen,

859
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 13>it's real easy for me to get emotional at Eventually

860
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 13>I got to kind of shut it down because I

861
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 13>can't control the emotion. But I'm in a good place

862
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 13>right now, Okay. But absolutely I missed. What I missed

863
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 13>most probably some of those random phone calls just off

864
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 13>the blue. You know, he would just call and I

865
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 13>would see his name right if my phone. Man, I

866
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 13>would just get so happy or whatever, and I just

867
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 13>I miss those moments. And even when I was, you know,

868
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 13>at work in probation. You know, we can't talk on

869
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 13>our cell phones at work, and sometimes Coacho would call

870
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 13>and I would see it and I would go sneak

871
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 13>into the laundry room just to get in a few

872
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 13>minutes on.

873
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:52.840
<v Speaker 15>The phone with you.

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00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 13>I mean, that's just he's easily, and I said about him,

875
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 13>easily the most influential person in my adult life and

876
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 13>has pretty much shaped me into the man I am today.

877
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 15>And I'll be forever grateful for that.

878
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's the case for everybody who played

879
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>for him, you know that that had to go through

880
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the tough times, and then he went and got through

881
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the tough times and then became you know, close to him.

882
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, because the relationship changes, you know, once you get out,

883
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 13>it really becomes even more personable and lovable. And it's

884
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 13>just he was just absolute best and and and it's

885
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 13>funny which most people wouldn't really realize, and we didn't

886
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 13>really realize that he is that you know, that's pretty.

887
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Funny, you know, a dry sense of humor, and then

888
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>he'd give you that.

889
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Ye.

890
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Well, Pete's always thank you very much. Maybe we'll

891
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 2>see you. I guess there's nothing. You're not coming to Phoenix, right,

892
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you know it's gonna be a while.

893
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 15>No, I think I'll just sit.

894
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 13>Outsite at the house and have a few beers and

895
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 13>watch it on TV. And we don't get to w

896
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 13>on Saturday.

897
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

898
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Optimistic, hope, So always optimist.

899
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 6>Talking to you too, man.

900
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Thanks Pete, see Pete, thank you. I shake Pete

901
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Williams for well the Cornerstone. Yeah, it was great.

902
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 5>In my last job, I had a chance to visit

903
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 5>with him a couple of times in the LA area,

904
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.239
<v Speaker 5>and it was it was great.

905
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 4>It was a conversations just like that. We were kind

906
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 4>of reminiscing and thinking about.

907
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Those early years and the first the first signs of

908
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 5>Arizona basketball, you know, and and the Loute Olson Arrow.

909
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Darn what happened? Oh darn, no, I want to text.

910
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>It was Leon Wood. Oh, Leon Wood was the guy

911
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was referee. That's the referee. I I don't know why

912
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought Richard House, but Leo would thank you. I

913
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>here he that's exactly who it was. But he didn't

914
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>play with Pete. No, he was right.

915
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 4>He was the year before for because he stayed fuller time.

916
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Transford, I don't thank you here because that's

917
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy that he was fantastic. Uh and then he

918
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>left because Luke should have. I don't know what the

919
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 2>story was, but yeah, yeah, Okay, Now let's go to

920
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>break and come back. We'll talk more about everything that

921
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Pete said and more. Would take some calls to If

922
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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Buying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm see Rivera, Dave Silver in with

980
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<v Speaker 2>me today. We've got Henry at the mic with the board.

981
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<v Speaker 2>Now we have a call. I think Gabriel.

982
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<v Speaker 11>Is that you?

983
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Yes, Yes, it's me. How you guys?

984
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.039
<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine? Hey, Gabe, I do take Blue Cross,

985
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Shield if you need a little psychiatric help with

986
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this football team.

987
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well, first off, I think my saws and prayers

988
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 6>are all all out of coverage.

989
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I saw I'm wow.

990
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna talk political. If that's no, don't don't.

991
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 6>If a CEO got so, how do you?

992
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>How do you? How do you feel about what's going

993
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>on with that football team?

994
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh? This is college football, baby, I don't know. To

995
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 6>be honest with you, what do you? What do you

996
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 6>guys think?

997
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I said it all along that these guys didn't

998
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 2>want to play for him, showed that they didn't want

999
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to play for him, but he didn't play hard for him.

1000
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Now they're gone.

1001
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would agree with you, and I think, okay, Well,

1002
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.800
<v Speaker 6>all the guys who are transferring, I think, okay, fine,

1003
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 6>go to other places that I'm going to pay you

1004
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 6>a lot more money. And I think, but bring you

1005
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 6>to say, hey, so all the players in the shots

1006
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 6>for portal that there are that are in the portal,

1007
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 6>I think you should hey, he should say, we have

1008
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 6>a lot of open positions, so come, we're come and play.

1009
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<v Speaker 6>That's why I kind of think.

1010
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 4>There's definitely gonna be some open open positions.

1011
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.000
<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, some of the quotes I think

1012
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I saw him saying like you know, if those guys

1013
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 5>want to go to another place, jump on their bandwagon,

1014
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 5>just just go, you know, if you don't want to

1015
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 5>be here, go And then they also have the option

1016
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 5>of looking around. And again the timetable is kind of

1017
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 5>murky right now, but they could come back, and that

1018
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 5>happened last year as well, so I'm trying to be

1019
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 5>optimistic with that. You know, hopefully some of the better

1020
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 5>players if they see, you know, if they can find

1021
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:48.239
<v Speaker 5>a better situation.

1022
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 2>And money talks.

1023
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Nowadays in college football, just about every quarterback has a

1024
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 5>number attached to them. If you're good, you're gonna get

1025
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 5>something somewhere.

1026
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, money talks, be yes walks right.

1027
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 2>So no, no about the basketball team, what are your thoughts?

1028
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 6>They gotta beat the they gotta beat U. C l A.

1029
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 6>And they also got to beat the Southern Keebler Elf

1030
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 6>because Mick Crumin definitely looks like ELF.

1031
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 2>He's been I read that today that he's been more

1032
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 2>uh more or less less Mike Cronin, he's been more cordially.

1033
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, maybe Justin Spears needs to talk with him.

1034
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 6>I know, nobody misses with all Boy and Spears, and yeah,

1035
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 6>nobody misses with my ginger assassin.

1036
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 2>That's right, he got after this is I'd surprise you're

1037
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not answering the question. Yeah, uh so what do

1038
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you think? What do you think is ailing the basketball team?

1039
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

1040
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 6>Too early in the season. I mean, I think the

1041
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 6>reason why we have such a really bad record is

1042
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 6>of the Bahamas tournament and and playing every single good team.

1043
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Arizona is four and four. We're not used

1044
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 6>to Arizona having like a bad record like that. We're

1045
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 6>usually eight and two or eight and oh or nine

1046
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 6>to oh, So we're not like used to that is

1047
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 6>that we're not used to having a football record.

1048
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this because you've been following

1049
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 2>a long time since I've been on the show here,

1050
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh ain't no kind of gets you guys. You youri

1051
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Zona fan's kind of really giddy, kind of over overthinking

1052
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>that about the tournament, right, We're gonna do really well.

1053
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Does this kind of temper that maybe become more realistic

1054
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that you know, March could be more realistic?

1055
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I'm expecting Arizona to lose a couple

1056
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 6>of games in the Pick twelve. It's not like we're

1057
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 6>in the Pac twelve right now. The PAC twelve basically

1058
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 6>were a stink, just like the wholy manmots.

1059
00:45:53.840 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 5>So so anyway, all right, it'll be fine, canna still

1060
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 5>be fun. I think I'm I'm you know. I think

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00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Matt Meilbach was talking about it yesterday where he said

1062
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 5>that Arizona did have some tough places to go in

1063
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 5>the PAC twelve, and so there they should be ready

1064
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 5>for something like sayah Houston or Missouri, Iowa State, some

1065
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 5>of those places that have this reputation. So I think

1066
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 5>they can stack up and they and remember those teams

1067
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 5>have to come to McHale Center too, which isn't exactly

1068
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 5>the easiest place to play, as we've seen over the years.

1069
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you guys the one one last question. So,

1070
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 6>if Brent Brennan doesn't get any players in the transport world,

1071
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 6>does that tell you signs that he will probably give

1072
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 6>fired next year? So that's probably gonna be the case.

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00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I think you're spot on, because if he doesn't get

1074
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 2>players that are halfway decent, that could be a very possible,

1075
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>very big possibility. David.

1076
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, he's gonna get players.

1077
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he'll get players, whether or not they're the

1078
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.239
<v Speaker 5>quality that we're hoping for you know, remains to be seen.

1079
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 5>He brought in players last year, he brought in year.

1080
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Make sure you signed that check and send it to

1081
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>the Arizona football program so they can use it for

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00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 2>n I l oh, definitely.

1083
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'll I'll save up some money and put it

1084
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 6>into into into the NY Say, you guys, you gotta

1085
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 6>you gotta play in a lot of money if you

1086
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 6>want Arizona to be good. Put shut up, don't be

1087
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 6>a lazy ass.

1088
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 4>You're right, Gabe, You're right. Can you sign that check?

1089
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Phil Knight? Is there a way that.

1090
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Could be done?

1091
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 6>He has a buttload of money.

1092
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you don't want to get political game, so

1093
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you go.

1094
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Gabe, Okay, thank you.

1095
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, we'll see what happens this weekend. Gave one

1096
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 2>of the loyal listeners and colleges. You know, he's uh.

1097
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.159
<v Speaker 2>He also calls the other people. So I have a

1098
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 2>little shakey with a little disappointed.

1099
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 5>He's got his opinions. Does I think a lot of

1100
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 5>people have opinions? I think, you know, not just it's

1101
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 5>just different, It really is. You know, we used to

1102
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 5>just kind of know the high school kids are coming

1103
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 5>and there's gonna be a few j C transfers, you know,

1104
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 5>things like that, but it's just the whole transfer portal

1105
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 5>is such a mess.

1106
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you know, we don't know what to expect.

1107
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 2>You're you're right, you mores wrote something today. We've talked

1108
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>about it on the show before with whom we have

1109
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the j C people coming that it's hurt the high

1110
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 2>schools and the j C is the transfer portal because

1111
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>why would you go to the high schools or the

1112
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 2>j c's when you can go after somebody else's who's

1113
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>been there, done that at another school.

1114
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 5>I know we're going to talk maybe later about Belichick

1115
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 5>and going to North Carolina, but.

1116
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 4>You know he's not going to be going to high schools. No,

1117
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 4>he's not going to be recruiting.

1118
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 5>He's just going straight transfer portal and promising them a

1119
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 5>shot at the NFL.

1120
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he would be like you talked about Dion.

1121
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>It would be a different deal, right, but a Dion

1122
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 2>like type of thing. Because Dean doesn't leave the city.

1123
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he doesn't go visit because he says, what's

1124
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that going to do? They come to my place and

1125
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 2>they get impressed.

1126
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 5>With me, right, and plus, you know, Dion comes with

1127
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.559
<v Speaker 5>the you know, being a player in his background, whereas

1128
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 5>Belichick has, you know, obviously the coaching background and the

1129
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 5>history and the success and the connections and things like

1130
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 5>that that are.

1131
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Going to probably help recruit players. Just on that basis,

1132
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you two options. Who are you playing for

1133
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Belichick or a deal? I don't know, you know, if I'm.

1134
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 5>Depends on what what I'm going to be doing, if

1135
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I'm really going to be in the NFL.

1136
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 5>Really think I guess Dion, if I have the talent,

1137
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 5>he's going to be able to teach me things that

1138
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 5>maybe Belichick, you know, has never been a you know,

1139
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.239
<v Speaker 5>a professional player, couldn't do. I want to be a

1140
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 5>coach or want to be in management. I want to

1141
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 5>be successful maybe after football. Well I think, you know,

1142
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 5>you go to college and you hope that you're going

1143
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 5>to learn something that's going to give you success afterwards too,

1144
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 5>whether it's football or business or whatever.

1145
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I just googled the people leaving for the portal. Uh

1146
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that came up for some I don't want to read,

1147
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 2>but I got it anyway. It said sixteen percent of

1148
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the rosters get into the transfer portal nationally or nationally

1149
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 2>nationally sixteen percent. And then I read a story from

1150
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>two three years ago about forty percent don't find homes,

1151
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 2>so you go and then you don't know where to

1152
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>go or you know what I'm saying, you don't.

1153
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no one wants you. Yeah, you'll start hearing those stories,

1154
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.079
<v Speaker 5>especially you know in the spring. Hey, wait, there's still

1155
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 5>like I said, there's still like fifteen hundred people you

1156
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 5>know in the portal who are are looking for a spot.

1157
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>We got a call real quick. Hello, you're on the

1158
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 2>air nine of the ball Who's asked. We've got about

1159
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a minute or so.

1160
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Dave, this is Lobel Phil.

1161
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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Lobo Phil. How are you? I'm doing good?

1162
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 6>How are you? How are you doing?

1163
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Dave? Good? Good? You got about a minute Phil.

1164
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<v Speaker 14>Hey, okay, I got two quick questions.

1165
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 6>I just want to make sure.

1166
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 17>I want I want to know how how Jay's doing.

1167
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Is he okay?

1168
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 15>See surviving?

1169
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 2>He's okay, three, he's surviving his new job. Him and

1170
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I have been talking. I want him to come in

1171
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and do a day in the week. He's kind of

1172
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>saying yes. So I'll let you guys know when that

1173
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>will happen. So you know, next week, next Thursday, we're

1174
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>at the casino, but I want him to come in

1175
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.599
<v Speaker 2>once once a day, once a week.

1176
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 15>Okay.

1177
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 6>So the second question, just real quick.

1178
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 17>So one time, I think it was a couple of

1179
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 17>years ago, I asked you guys a question Evan Jay.

1180
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 17>So I'm gonna pose the same question against you. It's

1181
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.800
<v Speaker 17>to Dave, do you believe that Tommy Lloyd is gonna

1182
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 17>be end up being closer to a a shot Miller type.

1183
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Of coach or a lout Olson type of I remember

1184
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 2>that question. Could you give me some parameters.

1185
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 6>By wins and final fours?

1186
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, by wins and final fours. Okay, Okay, we're gonna

1187
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 2>go we're gonna take this. We're gonna talk about that one.

1188
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll think about that one because we're gonna go to

1189
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.400
<v Speaker 2>break and we'll talk about it on the other side.

1190
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 2>But I remember that I remember your question because it

1191
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 2>was a good question, and now it's kind of funny

1192
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 2>question because it's true, and.

1193
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 17>I remember I remember yours and Jay's answers.

1194
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, the shot it's gonna be, it's gonna

1195
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 2>be more loot. Of course, that's did you guys say

1196
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>last I remember the answer, Well, let me. I'm still

1197
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 2>leaning that way, so we'll let me. David, I don't

1198
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 2>think about it.

1199
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 14>Thanks, and I want to hear Dave's Dave's answer to how.

1200
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 2>About how about them Lobos? Tough week, this week, tough week,

1201
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:20.599
<v Speaker 2>terrible week? Yes, okay, thanks film, yeah, yeah, when you

1202
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 2>lose to the Eggies hopefuls that we got about a

1203
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>minute or we can go down. Now we've got Okay,

1204
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>let's go and come back with breaking news and we'll

1205
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 2>get to his question. Okay,
