1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,639 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Geek 2 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:08,720 First Podcast. Welcome to episode six hundred and seventy four. 3 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:12,039 If you're listening to this, we're releasing this on GV Day, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,919 so we would appreciate it, you know, after you listening 5 00:00:13,919 --> 00:00:15,640 to this or before, because you always pause us, come 6 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:17,519 back and join the live celebration. It is our ten 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,559 year anniversary. It's gonna be a good time. Check it out. 8 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:22,800 The link is down below. Click on that. 9 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Lots of fun things happening. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,559 Speaker 1: So if you're listening to that and you like what 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,920 we do here and you're oh, today's day, obviously they'll 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,399 be you can watch it after the fact, but come 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,399 join livening for a little bit. 14 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: We'd love to say hi or talk to you, whatever 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:34,960 the case may be. 16 00:00:35,439 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: But yes, we are here reviewing weapons, and yeah, it's 17 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:44,719 it's interesting because we has been an anticipated one. I 18 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:46,920 think for us kind of just snuck up on me 19 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,719 because I think we've just been so busy with getting 20 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:52,560 ready for this and we just had lots of cast 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,000 and reviews and newscasts, so it's been kind of snuck 22 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:57,240 up on me here. But yeah, if you're interested at all. 23 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,799 Two you can go back. I think it was just yeah, no, 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,359 I think it was. 25 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:01,759 Speaker 2: Just you and me right that did Barbarian. 26 00:01:01,799 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we talked about for Golden Geeks, but 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,120 I don't think anyone else is on that review. 28 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, you can check that out. 29 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: But yes, as usual, we're gonna give our nonsport thoughts 30 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,280 on this movie, and then we'll give a little ad 31 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,920 break and then if that we'll get into full spoil. 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: So if you've not seen the movie. 33 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: We'll give you fair warning before we start talking about 34 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,159 the nitty gritty and everything and yeah, everything he knows 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,920 down below. But Taylor Field, obviously you were a massive 36 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,840 fan of Barbarian win your favorite movies that year? What 37 00:01:28,879 --> 00:01:32,480 did you think of Zach Gregor's follow up as Sophomore 38 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:33,560 Slump Sophomore Victory? 39 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Who knows? But what did you think of him coming 40 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,239 back and doing weapons. 41 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: I going into this movie was I don't want to 42 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,680 say apprehensive, but I was uncertain. I wasn't sure how 43 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,000 I was gonna like it, because yeah, for me, Barbarian 44 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:52,280 was just fantastic. It's fantastic, and I don't know how 45 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:56,680 a movie like that could really be topped. So getting 46 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,799 into this, I thought like the idea behind it maybe 47 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:05,159 wasn't really gonna with Barbarian. That story, I feel like 48 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:06,799 I could really drive with it because I feel like, 49 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:09,199 in a sense, it was written for a person like 50 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,919 me that enjoys that specific style of his zaniness and 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,000 craziness and horror. 52 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: So it really worked. 53 00:02:14,439 --> 00:02:16,879 Speaker 3: And then this, I wasn't sure based on the trailers. 54 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,319 Watching it completely blew my mind. When I put it 55 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,719 above Barbarian, I don't think I would it, but it's 56 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,639 just below by a smidge because I really like the 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,560 experience of Barbarian not knowing what to anticipate, being in 58 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:32,759 that that theater. 59 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: So with this though and seeing it, I want to 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,919 watch this again. 61 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,319 Speaker 3: I walked out of the theater like I wasn't jumping 62 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:40,639 and like freaking out, but I was. 63 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: My heart rate was alevated street running the streets, b 64 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:47,840 Ma Carya. It was just wow. 65 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,879 Speaker 3: There was there was a lot going on here, but 66 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,599 at its Court is very simple and I loved how 67 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 everything kind of just comes together and it's just like, wow, 68 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,520 this is just absolutely wild. What a wild story, and 69 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,360 the yeah, this is the theme that they were tackling 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,319 and then executing it as. 71 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: A horror film. Really really worked for me, and like 72 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:11,039 I said, I really really liked it. I think everyone 73 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,879 really came up. 74 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 3: To bat and by the time you get by the 75 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,199 time you get to the point where okay, some serious 76 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,080 shit is going down, I thought I was kind of 77 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,080 figuring it out what was happening, but you still don't 78 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,039 know any like the origin of what's going on. But 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,599 then once you get into like that third act, it's like, 80 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,719 this is freaky. There are certain characters that I feel 81 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:31,240 like I know, I know these people in real life, 82 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,759 which made it really even more freaky. There's lady Yes actually, 83 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:42,159 which is it freaks me the fuck out. Yeah, really 84 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:44,400 really freaks me out. But yeah, there's her, There's a guy, 85 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:45,039 and there's a. 86 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Couple other uh individuals, but I'm. 87 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Not gonna point names or point fingers name whatever. But anyways, 88 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:54,199 it was just, yeah, very freaky movie, and I'm really 89 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:58,000 looking forward to watching it again because it's just absolutely wild. 90 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:02,240 And I'm gonna be recommending this movie to. 91 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: Everyone that I see. 92 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:04,879 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm so so I hope that this guy 93 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,400 pops off with another horror movie after this and keeps going. 94 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: You know what, He's doing next. We already know I forgot, 95 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,719 oh he's and then he's trying to pitch that DC film. 96 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Mostly we'll talk about the newscast later this week because 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,439 he's he keeps bringing up that Joker Harley Henchman movie, 98 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,480 so we'll see what happens there. But yeah, we got 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,199 Reds and Evil coming next from him. 100 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:27,319 Speaker 2: So uh yeah. 101 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: So I'm somebody that I enjoy I remember Barbarian came out. 102 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,680 I enjoyed it, but the problem was I feel like 103 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,639 he got overhyped for me. But at the same time, 104 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,000 there's tons of people like Kirkland likes a lot like you, 105 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:40,120 and I can see why, right, But I just didn't 106 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 enjoy it as much as other people I wore. I 107 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:44,160 rewatched it this week, and I did enjoy it more 108 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:46,439 than the first time, not to the same points like oh, 109 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,000 I'm locked in like the rest of us be like No, 110 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:50,199 I enjoy it, but then there's some issues I have 111 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,879 with it. And that's pretty much how I feel about this. 112 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Like what you said of what I prefer it, I 113 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,480 think I prefer this movie, but I think it's like 114 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:04,279 a tie because I think Barbarian does some things better 115 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:07,000 and then has some weak points that this movie doesn't 116 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:09,439 and vice versa. There's some stuff like I don't think 117 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:12,480 in Barbarian for the most part, I was ever really 118 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,639 scared or too creeped out. It's more like a disturbing 119 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,639 thing when some stuffs revealed where this there's some creepy, 120 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,800 creepy stuff in here where kind of like, you know, 121 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:24,560 it's so funny because I was this was probably I'd 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,920 have to look at my list, but next to After Sinners, 123 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:29,759 like and next to Walson Grammer of course. 124 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: But like once I saw. 125 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,519 Speaker 1: The trailer, this was up there as one of my 126 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,800 most It was up there probably my most anticipate movie. 127 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: Of the year. It was exactly like Long Legs. And 128 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:38,759 I felt the same way as Long Legs. 129 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: As far as acts one, act two are fantastic and 130 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:44,920 Act three is not bad, it's just different. And it's 131 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 one of these things where it's a great big mystery 132 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,680 that they've presented to you here in weapons and like 133 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:54,879 there was the answer you're gonna get there's no that's. 134 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,319 Speaker 2: Why I'll hear you in the spoils and like, oh 135 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:57,120 I almost figure it out. 136 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: To me, it's like there's no figuring out because it's 137 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,839 so original, and that's what I'll say as a reverse, 138 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,600 as a pausitive. That's why I'm still gonna rate this 139 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,079 relatively high. I'd still recommend this to a bunch of 140 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:08,639 people because I think one like that third act could 141 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,079 land for other people as well, more than me. But 142 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:14,959 the thing is, there's so like, if you're anybody and 143 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,360 we've talked about this before, but if there's anybody out 144 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:19,920 there that does the well, they don't make original films anymore. 145 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,720 This is it right here. Maybe Whor is not your genre, 146 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,920 so I get it, but if you don't care about. 147 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,959 Speaker 2: Genre, this is very original. 148 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some inspirations from different arts and works 149 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,720 that Greer would have. 150 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:32,079 Speaker 2: Took from it. 151 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: But to me, the concept and the idea and even 152 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,959 so the like the structure of the film that's not 153 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:41,600 you know, like mynors spoilers, but like you just watched 154 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,000 pulp fiction tonight, Like it's that type of thing where 155 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,600 it's a you know, like I said, my spoils, it's 156 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,720 not chronological, but so there's a few points of that, 157 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:54,399 but the actual story and the you know, revelations, those 158 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:57,120 are very original, and I think there's some great creepy 159 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,399 moments in here. I think there is some of that 160 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:01,720 stuff where it's like, man, what is going on? So 161 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,040 that's a fun thrill ride. I recommend that, and I 162 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:07,120 recommend everyone seeing this. But that's where I still think 163 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,959 that the Unfortunately for me, the third act didn't reach 164 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,360 the heights like the revelation and then even the stuff 165 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,519 that happens after the fact and then above that, because 166 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:17,279 that's where I think it is very similar Long Legs. 167 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:20,519 I think I do like Long Legs more than this 168 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,279 because there's just different aspects and that that hit with me, 169 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:25,519 and I think i'd like that. Wore another watch where 170 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,040 I'm excited to watch this again, but Long Legs, I 171 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,759 was like, oh, I really need to watch again to 172 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:31,199 just feel like I get and see what I missed. 173 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,560 Where this is like okay, I see what they're going 174 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,360 for and it's you know, it's to me. 175 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: It reminds me of like. 176 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,759 Speaker 1: If you have like anthology whrrors or like goosebumps, where 177 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,519 it's like sometimes the the reveal is gonna work for 178 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:43,199 you and sometimes not. 179 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: It's not that it didn't work for me, it's like 180 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:46,240 oh okay. 181 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: But there wasn't more deep dived into it and then 182 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:50,519 so putting that aside. 183 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:53,079 Speaker 2: I think the other thing is the pacing. 184 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,399 Speaker 1: At times I think its structure is really good, but 185 00:07:56,399 --> 00:07:58,240 then other times it slows it down. I think the 186 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:02,079 issue is there's i'll just say one character in particular, 187 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,519 and other character developments that maybe didn't need to happen 188 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:08,759 because they didn't really lead anywhere, they didn't add much 189 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,879 more to the story. 190 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:12,839 Speaker 2: I will say though, that I love the roll decks. 191 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say everybody, because there's certain people that 192 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,600 I didn't think were in the movie, but then I 193 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,000 saw like an hdmage, like they must be in a trailer. 194 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,240 I'll just say the roll decks of people that Zach 195 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:25,399 is using are like majority Travis actors. And that's my 196 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,439 last one I'm saying to nonspoilers is the performances are 197 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,199 all top tier. I've been since this podcast start, I've 198 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:33,639 been talking about Julie Gardner because Julie Gardner one. 199 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,519 Speaker 2: Of my fair actresses. 200 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,039 Speaker 1: I saw her when she was like, I don't know, 201 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:40,080 like super young on The Americans, and that's where it's like, Okay, 202 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,360 she's a kid actress and she or like you know, 203 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,919 young adult whatever, and she's this good. 204 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,159 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, she's gonna be the Beast andies and 205 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,799 what a great year. 206 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I liked Wolfman a lot more than other people, like 207 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:51,519 you did, Taylor. I think she's great at Silver Surfer, 208 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,480 even though it's a reduced role. But Julie Gardner is 209 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:56,759 like I like, I don't know its like overall, but 210 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:59,480 at least for actresses top ten, and I think she 211 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:02,080 does phenom on here. Brolan I was a little down 212 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,840 on when he got cast because it was supposed to 213 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,639 be Pedro, and then I went to Brolin. I was like, oh, 214 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,919 you know, like we prefer Pedro. Broland's fantastic in here. 215 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:10,200 It's great to see him do something a little bit 216 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,399 different than like the hard nos like I'm I'm Josh Brolin. 217 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 I'm a badass type of thing, like he's been doing 218 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:16,759 that for a bit, even if it's like with a heart. 219 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,159 And then there's other people talk about later on in 220 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:21,919 spoilers or even stuff like all in the Aaron Reich 221 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,279 you know again not a great han soul. This is 222 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:27,759 why to me, it's like air to Johnson, this fair 223 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:32,519 game when he plays like weird characters, even in an Ironheart. 224 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:34,919 I like him there when he plays these type of characters, 225 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,200 this is where he thrives. He's not a Airtage or 226 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,279 he's like a Tayo Johnson. He's not a leading man 227 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,000 per se. He's a phenomenal supporting character or a leading man, 228 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:45,559 but a weird kookie. 229 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,879 Speaker 2: Type of character. 230 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: So uh No, I thought this was still like a 231 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,960 like a I'll say this a very good movie, but 232 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:54,759 great moments and great. 233 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Concepts in it. Like I said, I. 234 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: Enjoyed a lot of it, very original, some great show here, 235 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,159 good score that I'll definitely talk about when we come 236 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:05,360 to going geeks and performances. So yeah, I was glad 237 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,519 I watched US, but at the same time, it did 238 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,399 not reach my expectations. It's nowhere up there with like 239 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,639 Sinners or twenty eight years later. Like I it wasn't 240 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,200 even like close or like wals grom at Life at Chuck, 241 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:18,480 Like there's quite a few movies i'd put above, and 242 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:21,039 I was a little disappointed by that. But I'm hoping 243 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,799 the next time I see Zach Craiker's work, I'm not 244 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,559 gonna be like a little letdown. Because I was with 245 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,879 Barbarian and I was with this, but there's still very 246 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,320 good original movies that say definitely go out and see 247 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,080 and support, and they I think are a thrill ride 248 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,600 because they're gonna take you on a journey that you 249 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,240 won't know you're what you're on for. 250 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: So anything else non spoils to talk about too, I think. 251 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,399 Speaker 1: So all right, ladim And so if you've not seen 252 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:44,279 this movie, we're gonna take our first ad break and 253 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,360 then we're back. We're gonna get into full spoiler, so 254 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,679 you won't be safe, so we will be right back. 255 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: And we are back. 256 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: So that's something I want to get more into, but 257 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,440 like I didn't want to go too full spoilers. So, Tara, 258 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,080 how did you feel about the non chronological You know, 259 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 we start with oh. 260 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: God, what was our main character's name? It's yeah, Justine. 261 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: We start with her and it's just like the trailers, 262 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,159 you know, they show, Okay, the kids go missing, she 263 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,759 goes to school, and that's what her story pretty much is. 264 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,679 It's just like if you haven't seen the trailers, to 265 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,679 set up everything that's missing, the kids are missing, the situation. 266 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,360 I really like the kid doing the narration at the beginning. 267 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,360 I will say, and just this is I think the 268 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:25,039 movie has stuff like this throughout, little things that docted 269 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,600 points when they and I can't remember what song was, 270 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:29,679 but when they have the kids running at nighttime. I 271 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,799 wish it was like a creepy score or something, but 272 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,799 it was like a classic rock and roll song, and 273 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:36,039 it just didn't work for me. Later on they do 274 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,039 that work better. But I remember that footage when we 275 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,799 talked about weapons and when they were releasing stuff like 276 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:43,039 just security cam black and white. Are the kids running? 277 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,279 It was like, that's some of the most horrifying stuff ever. 278 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,720 When they present in the movie, it didn't have that 279 00:11:47,759 --> 00:11:49,480 impact on me like I was hoping, and I think 280 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:52,679 it was just purely song choice. I did not enjoy 281 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:56,080 that aspect. But we get her story, and then obviously 282 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,000 something big happens, you know, she gets attacked, and then 283 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,559 they cut. 284 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:00,759 Speaker 2: And then they go to decks next character. 285 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:02,159 Speaker 1: What do you think about the way they told the 286 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:04,000 story as far as they kind of, you know, maybe 287 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,519 give you both. 288 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: I'd say twenty to twenty five minutes of a character, they. 289 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,879 Speaker 1: Stop and go to a chapter, and a lot of 290 00:12:08,919 --> 00:12:10,480 time that chapter starts at the very end of the 291 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,600 story or close to that, and then they catch up 292 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,279 with it or they stop at a different point. 293 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, what do you think about the non chronological? 294 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:16,559 Did that work? 295 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:16,919 Speaker 1: For a year? 296 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: It completely worked? And I mean non chronological. 297 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: I feel like it was pretty consistently pushed in the 298 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:25,960 narrative for or do you get a couple of replays 299 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:27,919 or a couple of events that are like parallel to 300 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,000 what Justine's story is. But I really really enjoyed it. 301 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:33,879 I liked the different chapters and there was a few 302 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,840 that were just really catching me off guard when they 303 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:42,039 throw in like James's story and whatnot his arc and 304 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,440 how that kind of parallels with everything. It's just it's 305 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,720 crazy to see how all these characters and these different 306 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,879 things kind of all connect at the end of the 307 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,440 story in a very weird way. 308 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I think it really really worked 309 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,720 for me and HER's definitely it concludes. But she gets 310 00:12:58,759 --> 00:12:59,759 to the gas station. 311 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, she gets attacked with the vice principal, the principle. 312 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:06,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's where it's like, so for me and 313 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,000 you're you're happy with all the characters, all the stories, 314 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,200 everything like that. 315 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: I was there. There was maybe one other character. 316 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: I was hoping that we would have gotten an explanation 317 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,320 for uh. 318 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: Who was? 319 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: Oh man, God, why could I drawing a blank? Because 320 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,240 I feel like there's one more character. I wanted to 321 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,200 see some more stuff with uh. 322 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Because the cop is it the the like the sergeant 323 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,000 like all Naron reichs. 324 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: Oh it was it was his the sergeant's daughter, because 325 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,080 I wanted I thought, when we get the scene of 326 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,279 her attacking just sine, I thought we got like another 327 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,600 sequence with her or something like that. 328 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: But I mean it's fine, and she didn't play a 329 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:44,600 major role at the end of the story. 330 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, she's somebody I love. So she's she's an actress. 331 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,480 But she's on a podcast I listened to weekly. It's 332 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,360 called how This Movie Gets Made, and it's like, you know, 333 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,039 it was an inspiration we did Netflix and Field, but 334 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,240 they just talk about bad movies. 335 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's June Diane Rayfield. 336 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: I did not know she was announced run out so 337 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:01,200 and she popped up And most of the time when 338 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,440 she does stuff, it's all like comedic stuff. I think. 339 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,039 The only thing you may saw in well, you may 340 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,240 saw in two things. Once she was a disaster artists 341 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:10,320 for a couple of scenes and then two she's in 342 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Did you ever watch that? 343 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: Move? Were seth Rogan Charlie's. 344 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: There on are like political in their couple and like 345 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:17,039 they're not supposed to be dating or something like that. 346 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: It's like a comedy. 347 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, so most of her stuff that June does 348 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:22,279 is all comedic, so it's cool to see that she 349 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:25,960 was somewhat like a dramatic comedic. But that's seen the 350 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,039 gas station that that's what I mean. That shot so 351 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:32,519 fantastic where kids have gone missing, creepy stuff's happening. They 352 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:35,759 don't set us up because you're really you're once the 353 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,759 kids go missing, you're kind of dropped in the middle 354 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:39,720 of the story for all of right, you're playing ketchup, 355 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,559 which is a good thing. So she they set up 356 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,240 that Justine is deals with it when she's stressed out, 357 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,840 deals with issues via liquor, right, And they don't dive 358 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:52,200 too much deep into that. And I think that's probably 359 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,120 another thing I I guess talking a little bit like 360 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,039 I feel like that's the tough thing because I feel 361 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:03,440 like there's what there's Julia Gardner, there's the cop, there's 362 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,039 the dad, there's the principal, there's the kid, and then 363 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,120 there's the Austin Abrams, the you know, the stoner guy, 364 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,600 there's the six stories. And that's the problem that you 365 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,799 don't get to dive full into them. 366 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: So you know, she has a dream problem. 367 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: We don't really go back there, but anyway, she's going 368 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,080 to this liquor store and at this point we've no 369 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,279 like information all of June, Dia and Rayfield's character. So 370 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,720 she justine walks, she gets out of her car. You 371 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,919 can see someone in the distance park and just b 372 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,759 lines to her and you're like, man, what's going on? 373 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,840 And they do this great thing where she goes Julie 374 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:40,519 Gardner goes in the liquor store. She's walking, June walks in, 375 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,720 and the second she starts to get closed, they have 376 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:45,799 Julia Gardner's character take a turn and it takes the 377 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:48,200 camera away and you don't get to see her like 378 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,360 make contact with it, and it's just like she's just like, 379 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,240 you know, two three feet away from getting her and 380 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,320 you're like, oh, this is something messed up. And then 381 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,320 when you get there, it's like, Okay, it's somebody that's 382 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,440 you know, she had an affair with her husband and 383 00:15:58,679 --> 00:15:59,840 it's like a personal issue. 384 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: But the way that shot was fantastic. 385 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:04,799 Speaker 1: Because you didn't know what was going on, and great 386 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,600 camera work by the by the team there, and you know, 387 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:10,879 very very embarrassing situation happened to you in public. 388 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,879 Speaker 4: So oh yeah, she's just brutal. 389 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:16,559 Speaker 3: I mean, that's she's two for two for embarrassing situations 390 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:20,240 being attacked and these public settings. Because she got long 391 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:22,200 charged at her in the liquor store or. 392 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,799 Speaker 1: The gas station, I guess I'm not going to count 393 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:25,480 that as an a bearing situation. I think that that's 394 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,480 the worse than even though the owner. 395 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: Was like get out of my store to get the 396 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:31,279 fight out, she's like fucking help me. 397 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I found that weird, Like I was like, I 398 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,360 almost wish they did something where they had like a 399 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,440 quick scene where they established the liquor store owner like 400 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:44,440 did not care for her, like whether he was a 401 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:46,200 parent or someone that was attached to. 402 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: Them, because it felt weird. Of it's not just this 403 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:49,639 guy's following her. 404 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:53,519 Speaker 1: Literally ben Iguana and Josh broloncle flying in the guy's 405 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:58,120 glass like like the freezer and it's broken. There's blood everywhere, 406 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,559 and he's like, good, I must like do nothing, which 407 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:02,519 again granted maybe there's other homeless people, but at that 408 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:04,279 point you feel like that you would phone them. But 409 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:06,279 that was one thing that was weird for me. And 410 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,559 this is where I think I can dock at points 411 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:12,039 for character moments where I thought from the beginning because 412 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:16,759 she which again greats I love in the world, there's 413 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,000 no they're just trying to figure out there's not like 414 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,119 oh right now we think like uh, serra killer took 415 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,880 them or this, and that it's literally going with the supernatural, 416 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,200 like they're not saying supernatural, but just like these kids 417 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:27,599 are missing. 418 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: We don't know why. There's no like real. 419 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,519 Speaker 1: Because I think sometimes some movies try to they want 420 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:34,039 to do something supernatural, but they try to explain it 421 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,359 in a real world way and it doesn't work out, 422 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,720 like in a perfect sense that I thought was great. 423 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:41,359 That was like Nightmare on Elm Street, where you know 424 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,200 people are always dying and that's always like, oh, well 425 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,519 they killed themselves X, Y, and Z. But then you 426 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:47,200 have something like Johnny Devin the first one where he 427 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,599 gets sucked through the bed and all his blood is 428 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:50,960 shot up in the roof. It's like, well, there's no 429 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,599 real world way you could explain this to anybody. Right, 430 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:55,559 and they just go on like, oh, yeah, you could 431 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,839 kill himself. But it's like, well how did he kill? 432 00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:00,000 Like what happened here? So I liked that, just like, yeah, 433 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,400 these kids are missing. No one knows why. There's no theories, 434 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,839 there's no leads. All they have is some footage and 435 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,240 that's about it. And one kid which I think they 436 00:18:07,319 --> 00:18:09,440 left at the trailers, which I like they established that 437 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,640 one kid was left behind. So it was a classroom 438 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,559 of eighteen and that to me, it wasn't a tip off. 439 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:17,519 But it's like I was like, Okay, clearly it's something 440 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:19,640 to do with this kid. It was like that was 441 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,359 a tough thing that you can't bear the lead there. 442 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,720 But anyways, so they're done. I think they're I think 443 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:26,359 they said it was like two to three months. They 444 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,480 like shut down the school because it's just they don't 445 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,680 know what's going on. One month. 446 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just one month, Jesus, So they shut 447 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:33,480 down the school. They're going back. Before they're gonna do that, 448 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,359 they do like a town hall meeting. 449 00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: Right, terrible idea that they're gonna put Justine up on 450 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,960 stage to talk, like what's she gonna say? 451 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: Like half the people think she might have done something 452 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:44,559 or you know that she knows more than she's letting on. 453 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: But she as far as in the story at the 454 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,200 end of the beginning, she's looked as like a complete 455 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,839 innocent character. She's flawed, but they never in the story 456 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,160 make you think at one point she's up to no good, right, 457 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,200 They don't go that route. 458 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: So she's up there, she talks and they're motherfucker and her. 459 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:01,640 They're all Matt and Bedie. 460 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: One like whisks her away, And I feel like throughout 461 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,640 the story they make it seem like Bibie Wong is 462 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,400 like a pretty good guy who even says like, hey, 463 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,319 don't do this, you could get fired. She does the 464 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 thing and he's like, I'm giving you one more warning. 465 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:16,440 I felt when he died, she didn't really care, like 466 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:19,079 Josh brawl there because like I know, people if they're 467 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,599 hopefully you've seen the movie, Benik Wong gets infected with 468 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,799 this like voodoo sort of thing which we'll get into. 469 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,720 He's gonna kill Julie Gardner's character. 470 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:27,319 Speaker 2: He's choking her. 471 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,559 Speaker 1: Big fight scene he's running after and great shots too 472 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,039 where he's running after the car. Just like that's happening 473 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:37,799 to me, right, now and it he's that. I literally, ah, 474 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,839 what happened in theater when he's running the car and 475 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,920 just another car just smokes him and he's dead, and 476 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,599 of course his head's like impaled. But later on her 477 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,720 and Josh Brolin get the hospital and you know, he's like, 478 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,720 how are you Yeah, just a little scraped up, and 479 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:53,359 she's like you, how are you think? 480 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Oh, scraped up? Like that's crazy. 481 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 482 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: I talked to him earlier. It seemed fine. 483 00:19:57,079 --> 00:19:58,839 Speaker 1: It just felt like she didn't care about him at all, 484 00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:01,640 Like there was no like it felt like they gave 485 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:03,519 to me them too many scenes. 486 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:04,839 Speaker 2: For her to not feel shaken up at all. 487 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Not only did he die, he also tried to murder you, Like, 488 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:09,960 I felt like he was just And I don't think 489 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,440 it was an acting choice. I think it was a 490 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,240 writing choice where they just made it seem like she 491 00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:15,680 it could have just been a random stranger they thought, 492 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,000 you know. 493 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's fair. I just I'll take it 494 00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:23,359 as the fact that it was just a business relationship, 495 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,680 and you know, she was driving away so she didn't 496 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,640 see it happen, and she just would have been told 497 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,279 that she was dead, as opposed to where with Paul. 498 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:32,200 She actually had to shoot him, and she was much 499 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,039 more present for that experience. So but again, I think 500 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:38,920 it's totally up to interpretation. She yeah, she seemed pretty 501 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,519 fine about it. But that whole scene just I loved 502 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,880 how it cut when she was running into the grocery 503 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,519 or the gas station, and then we didn't get to 504 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:49,920 see anything else until after when we saw Yeah, Marcus's 505 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:53,559 kind of transition with with at Gladys fuck. 506 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I like that a lot. 507 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: That's where we didn't get Gladys. We only got her 508 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,400 once in that dream sequence. 509 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:06,079 Speaker 4: She was in the dream sequence with Marcus. 510 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: And Julia Gardner, which I don't know why. 511 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: With Marcus and Julia Gardner. 512 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Isn't Marcus Josh Brolin. 513 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:18,079 Speaker 3: Ah, I thought Marcus was the principle. 514 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: It's time to be it. You might be right, but 515 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,279 I will find out for sure. 516 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,079 Speaker 3: Because you're you're right, And that's where she was popping up. 517 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,920 I was trying to keep like, what the fuck is 518 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,680 the same, and I laughed out loud. I think the 519 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,599 whole theater did. When Josh Brolin wakes up from his 520 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,200 dream and he's like, what the fuck? 521 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that I got, You're right? So Beniguong was Marcus. 522 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Josh Brolin was Archer, but yeah that got 523 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,240 a big laugh. And the line delivery that was great 524 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,759 where he just great moment where he sees his son 525 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:43,640 sleeping in the bed and then he shines a light 526 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,279 ins the fucking ant Gladys and good jump scared. 527 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,319 Speaker 2: I think that not an issue. But my only issues 528 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,640 like between then the Gardener one. 529 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: They set her up to be kind of like a monster, 530 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,880 which like like, of course she's a monster. She's not 531 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,119 actually a monster, right, She's just like like a creepy 532 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,519 old lady and stuff. 533 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,519 Speaker 2: But it, uh, it worked that way. 534 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,079 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, though, if there's one story 535 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,599 that I would have cut, what do you think it is? 536 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:11,279 Speaker 4: One story that you would have cut? Probably James choose James, 537 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,160 he's the druggie. 538 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,559 Speaker 2: I'm forgetting. Uh No, I'm fine with that one. I'm 539 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:15,640 big Austin Abrams guy. 540 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:17,599 Speaker 1: And you're gonna laugh when I say it that it's 541 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Paul all in there in Rag's character. But hear me 542 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,759 out for a second. Yeah, Austin Abrams, I did not 543 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,079 know is in this. I think I don't think I 544 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,160 could cut that. I think you could make the case 545 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,440 that it could be shortened. 546 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,279 Speaker 2: It depends. I like Austin Abrams, and I found that funny. 547 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,319 Speaker 1: But if I think you don't find that funny, the 548 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,559 story does go on for a little bit. I think 549 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,319 my issue was with the Paul story. They gave us 550 00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:41,960 so much backstory on Paul, like with his marriage and 551 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960 his drinking problem and his relationship with Justine for him 552 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,160 just to get killed and again like she had a reaction, 553 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,400 but they kind of just move on from it. I 554 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,920 think you could easily just had him in Justine's care 555 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:55,000 and story of he's an ex, he cares about her, 556 00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:57,880 so later on when she sees him, you've already established 557 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,000 oh that's the cop that you know I used to 558 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,599 Dane love and have a relationship with. He cares me, 559 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,480 you like, even then when it's like him not responding 560 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:07,039 to text, you could have made that they just recently 561 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:07,599 broken up. 562 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: I just felt like, and don't be actually liked that. 563 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,519 Speaker 1: Guy that played his father in law, that actor and 564 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,559 they had like a good you're like, oh, you know, 565 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,880 anniversary day, Like I liked the stuff in it. I 566 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,079 just thought it kind of because the problem was we 567 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,519 got Justine an Archer story, and then I believe what 568 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,279 was Paul's right or did we get Marcus's after? 569 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,319 Speaker 4: I think Paul came after Archer, I'm pretty sure. 570 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: So I think that was the problem where those ones, 571 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,000 I think we're really picking up the pace, and then 572 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,880 I think Paul with. 573 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: What's the drug? 574 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: EUSt guy named you were James, I think back to 575 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,319 back there was like that was a longer stretch, and 576 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,759 I just feel like the emotional stuff and the character stuff, 577 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:50,039 like the stuff with his wife, the alcoholism, his you know, 578 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,599 his the sheriff being his father in law, the fact 579 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,559 that they just kind of kill him didn't matter. And 580 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,119 I guess the thing is because I can't remember there's 581 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,400 a movie we were viewed recently where they did that 582 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,319 and they killed Oh. 583 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: I think it was Sinners. 584 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,799 Speaker 1: We me and Kirkland talked about where they You know, 585 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:08,640 that's why all these characters had these big stories, so 586 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,599 you care about them. I guess my only issue was 587 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:12,759 I just didn't end up caring about Paul enough. 588 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: I felt like I needed more stuff. 589 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: So I think Payson wise that slowed it down a 590 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,799 little for me that I just even though I don't 591 00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:21,279 think the stuff in there was bad per se. 592 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: I think there were some great comedic stuff, and the 593 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,440 stuff with James was good. 594 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I just felt for the overall story, maybe you could 595 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,079 have even just tightened it up a little bit. 596 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was not expecting Alden to be in there, 597 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:35,519 and I like Paul's character. 598 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: Just I was. 599 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: I thought, I like that you don't really understand what's 600 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,079 going on, and then you know, it just seems like, oh, 601 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,079 Donna and this is you kind of kind of unfolds. 602 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,240 And I didn't think they had actually slept together. I 603 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,599 thought maybe he just passed out or something like that. 604 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,720 But they slept together for sure. But everything was just man, 605 00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,680 it just made me cringe. When he's like, got anything 606 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,680 sharp in your pockets, Jame, I don't want to get 607 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 pricked her, and he's just he's his whole hand in 608 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 there and just the blood on his finger. It's like, oh, 609 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:08,079 my fucking God. And then I knew it was coming 610 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,160 at this point when he stabs his face with three needles, 611 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,319 like Jesus Christ. 612 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew. 613 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,319 Speaker 1: I knew it was him too, Like like the what 614 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,799 like the the tent stuff, right, that's a good and 615 00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:23,720 that's the same thing. I'm well okay, I'll circle back 616 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,920 to but good jump scare. 617 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,039 Speaker 2: As far as James runs in the wood, he sees 618 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:28,839 her waving. 619 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: Hard very penny wise, like right. 620 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: Very pennywise. 621 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he sees that happening, and then he gets in 622 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,200 his like little drug tendings and stuff, and then it's 623 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,839 ends up being And I was like, you're right, I 624 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,799 know this is all there, and right, he's gonna get 625 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,519 stabbed in the fucking like I didn't think three needles 626 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,400 in the face. I thought there might be a hand again, 627 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,440 but like, in fact, he just got stabbed again, and 628 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,200 like you got aids, you got a hipsy. 629 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: Like no, not that I know. So that's good what 630 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:51,519 I was gonna ask you. 631 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's I guess can still work because 632 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:57,160 she's using kind of magic and you know, dark magic stuff. 633 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,960 But I guess with the reveal, I felt like that 634 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,160 moment with James and then the two dream sequences with 635 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,960 Archer and Justine, I think visually and kind of mood 636 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,720 wise vice wise are done very well. But as far 637 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,640 as for the actual story, they never once made that 638 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,160 like why would that character be waving at James. It's 639 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,039 not like when you brought Penny Wise or Penny Wise 640 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,119 and get in your head and he knows he's coming 641 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,440 for you or you're coming for him. Right where that 642 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:27,960 like the glad it was Gladys right, yeah, yeah, Like 643 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,119 they never pinted at that, being things like why would 644 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,160 she be stalking like even dream stalking this James guy 645 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,319 and the other two haven't like Archer and Justine still 646 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,960 hadn't interacted with Gladys, but I could maybe buy that 647 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,519 maybe they had seen her at school or seen something 648 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:45,519 or even. 649 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: Sort of did interact with her at this point. Yes, 650 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:53,359 sleeping and that scene was fucking freaking on. 651 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,319 Speaker 1: The rooftop on the roof when or like yeah, when 652 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,559 when Justine wakes up and she's on the roof like 653 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,359 the of the bed. 654 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: That was that, but I meant, I meant, I think 655 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,720 it was before that happened, when Justine was camping on 656 00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:11,119 the side of Alex's house in her car and you 657 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,160 just see Alex's mom being controlled by glass. 658 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 4: Walk out, yeah, freakishly and. 659 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,559 Speaker 3: Just when she stands there, viar pat driverside door and walks. 660 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: And they do a great job. 661 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: They don't show it, but you hear the door fucking open, 662 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,920 And I was like, what it's gonna happen. 663 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: And when she started to cut herself or cut that 664 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,279 like the scissors as getting hereditary flashbacks when you're like 665 00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:34,319 the and you're like that's what At first I thought like, Oh, 666 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:36,039 it was this person like killing herself in her car 667 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,160 and she's gonna get pinned on it. Yeah, that whole 668 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,720 sequence that might be. That might be the best sequence 669 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,079 of the movie. I know some people are gonna say 670 00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,440 probably the ending with the kids, but for me because 671 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,160 also just the way they had her walk out of 672 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,160 that house, like she doesn't walk out like even I 673 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,000 because that's like she's like a scarecrow, you know, like 674 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,599 it's like it it was unsettling, no score, like it 675 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,920 was fantastic. So yeah, that but so like I can 676 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,400 kind of buy them, but like, how do you take 677 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,839 the dreams because they never make that a thing where 678 00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:08,799 all this character is like attacking your dreams or using 679 00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:11,160 magic that way. Especially for me, the hang up is 680 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,880 James because that jump scare doesn't really make sense to me. 681 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,039 Speaker 2: With her in the woods, they didn't interact. 682 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: Any thing I can think of is like maybe it's 683 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,480 just like she's targeting and it's like a foreshadow. I 684 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,279 mean that did happen after James went into the house, 685 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,559 and Gladys was probably a cognitive that he was in 686 00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:32,000 there because she did send the two parents to attack him, right, 687 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,279 So yeah, there's probably I think it's maybe something along 688 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:36,759 those lines. 689 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:42,039 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's just something that maybe I'll wait 690 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,640 in here to other people's theories and explanations. I just 691 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240 think even the dream sequences with because I just feel like, 692 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,279 if you're doing the dream sequences, shouldn't there be a 693 00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:50,680 way to. 694 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Take them out. I can even believe, like you said, 695 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,160 with Gardner, with. 696 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,599 Speaker 1: Justine, Okay, I can believe that because she's she is 697 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Targner where Archer, like she has no she doesn't know 698 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,799 that's happening at all, right, Like there's nothing at that 699 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,000 other than him just being a depressed dad. There's no 700 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,359 he's on the mission. He hasn't interacted with Gladys yet, 701 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,440 so I feel like I need to see some stuff. 702 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,920 But that's where stuff I felt like he was kind 703 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,720 of substance over or sorry style over substance where it's like, oh, 704 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,839 we're gonna need some really cool scary stuff here, And 705 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,359 it was, But when you think about overall, it doesn't 706 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,039 really make sense to be right now. Maybe maybe it 707 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,079 will down the line, but yeah, great stuff, great over 708 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,400 stuff like when uh, because we'd seen the trailer. But 709 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,200 that's why even showing the whole movie when Justine stream 710 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,640 and she goes back to school and it's just awesome there, 711 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,720 and he goes up and he has like the joker face, 712 00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:39,480 like that's some creepy stuff. 713 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Going on there, and I think that was good stuff. 714 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,079 Speaker 1: I thought there's something else I was gonna bring up here, 715 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880 but I think I'm forgetting about it. 716 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,519 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Where do you want to go? 717 00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:53,519 Speaker 1: Oh? 718 00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: Where do we want to go? It is just like 719 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,720 the voodoo concept and ja, yeah, guardy, I liked it. 720 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,759 Speaker 3: I liked it a lot, and I caught me off guard, 721 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:06,880 was not expecting it, and I thought, okay, when Aunt 722 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,640 Gladys appeared, that just freaked me out. And yeah, I 723 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,319 do know someone who is They They talk a little 724 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,599 bit more voodooy than Gladys does, but they they kind 725 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:18,359 of look like her. 726 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,799 Speaker 4: It's very unstantly. I could just I could see the 727 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,480 person when I was looking. I am Gladys and just her. 728 00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: As the story goes on and what she's dealing with 729 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,359 with Alex and just how the parents are there, and 730 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,839 I know we kind of saw it in the trailer, 731 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,079 but just this scene was just freaky when she like 732 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,319 snaps her twig and then the parents start stabbing their 733 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:37,839 face with a fork, fucking on repeat. It just was cringey, 734 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,279 uncomfortable and then her just doing her weird shit in 735 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,279 the house and all that, And I'm glad they explained 736 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:46,000 a couple of things. Okay, they knew that the FBI 737 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:47,240 was coming to the house and they had to clean 738 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,319 it up and all that, and. 739 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: Then yes, because right away I was like so many 740 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:56,440 movie which I think Barbarian. I think Gregor does a 741 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,279 good job of always trying to cover his tracks that 742 00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,920 I remember Barbarian, which I still had some issues right 743 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,839 that she like goes back in the house and they 744 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,000 make it where she's like the cops thing she's homeless, right, 745 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:07,319 so it's like that's why they don't help her. But 746 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,359 I felt like there's more way, Like there's like, say 747 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,599 something else happened, go to a different state, Like I 748 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,559 felt like there was greater things you could do there. 749 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,839 But I understood whatever situation reduced very quicker. But I 750 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400 like they tried same thing here when it's like they're 751 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200 coming over and I'm like, Okay, how can I believe 752 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200 that one they're not gonna see? And I still question 753 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,200 the parents a little bit when like, oh yeah they 754 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,519 she's like, oh he just has a because they show 755 00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,480 the dad like, oh he just had a stroke recently. 756 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,039 So it's like, well, what do they say about the 757 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:36,799 mom then, because we didn't see the mom. So it's 758 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,440 like that would feel all that both the parents are 759 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,799 like in a Comato's type of state. 760 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: So again that to me, I think it was a 761 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:43,039 little loose. 762 00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:45,359 Speaker 1: But the kids thing I appreciate because because I'm like, 763 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680 how do they not fucking check the basement? If this 764 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:51,160 is a situation doesn't matter if you if you if 765 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,640 all the kids went missing and your kid didn't and 766 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,880 you know there's no proof of why this happened, I 767 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,279 don't care. 768 00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: Your whole fucking house is getting checked. 769 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,799 Speaker 1: So I appreciate though that she they showed that she 770 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,240 took the vote voodoo and made the kids like go 771 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,839 hide somewhere else, like in the woods or something, and 772 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,480 then come back. So I do appreciate that he does 773 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,759 always try, even if it doesn't always work. For me, 774 00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:13,759 or it might be a little loose that he tries 775 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,240 to give a reason in world wide they haven't been 776 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200 discovered by the police because, like both of his movies 777 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000 are said in present day, right, it's so hard to 778 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,279 do that now where there's cameras and social media, like. 779 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,039 Speaker 2: It's hard to cover up with that stuff. 780 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: So I appreciate where there's many horror movies that don't 781 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,039 they don't care, They would never explain that and they're like, oh, yeah, 782 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:34,039 they just didn't figure it out, because it is like 783 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,920 a big leap because like I said, like I think 784 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,799 they do a good job of setting the stakes of 785 00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:42,400 this town is really mad and really damaged from. 786 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Just like it's not like a kid's dying. They're just missing. 787 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880 They have no answers, right, And that's where I love that. 788 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:49,839 Speaker 1: I love that scene with Archer where he's with the 789 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,359 like the sheriff and he's just like pissed off and 790 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,279 he's talking about all these theories and everything about like 791 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:55,119 how the teacher. 792 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: Knows some muscle does something, and it's just like, I 793 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,400 don't know if. 794 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: You want me to tell you, Like we have footage 795 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200 of a bunch of Caid's running on their own like 796 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,559 and he's like, what do you like? And obviously the 797 00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:08,279 reveal is something u supernatural, but to that person, it's like, 798 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:09,079 what do you want? 799 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: Like how can I rest that woman? You know? We 800 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400 have no idea, so mm hmmmm hmm. 801 00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I think it really really worked with me, 802 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,119 and everything was with Gladys and yeah, just that whole 803 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,599 conversation that he was having with Archer. 804 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 4: And the sheriff, just like, oh, it doesn't make any 805 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,160 sense what's going on? 806 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: And just it's I like how Archer kind of got 807 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,839 really crafty with it and just kind of like figure 808 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,039 out the trajectory and everything going on. And at this 809 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:39,160 point I was convinced that it was zombies. And then 810 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,440 when we get to the point where Archer's looking into 811 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720 it now and that, yeah, just because of seeing Wang 812 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,640 and the trailer and just seeing him his look and everything, 813 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,480 I thought, Okay, so. 814 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,519 Speaker 1: Why are you thinking? Why are you thinking zombies? For 815 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,480 the kids? Initially running away. 816 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: Because I thought even with the name weapons, it was 817 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,920 gonna be some secret weaponize drug or something. I don't know, 818 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000 I'm not sure even when I thought it was like 819 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,640 a paranormal zombie kind of thing, because I remember in 820 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720 the trailer they showed the salt, the line of salts 821 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,519 and like the crossing of it, but they didn't show 822 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,800 really the parents and obviously what was going on in 823 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,599 that context. 824 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 4: So it's hard to kind of keep up with that 825 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,320 in the trailer sense. 826 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: But at this point, now, that's when I thought, Okay, 827 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,840 there's something else going on here, and Archer obviously digs 828 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,159 more into it. And I love when Justin Long appears 829 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,039 there and the wife's standing in the side of the 830 00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:26,840 hall just super pissed at him. 831 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,159 Speaker 1: Sarah Packson, you know she was big in our age, 832 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,480 remember achelm Marine. You know she's in a bunch of 833 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,280 those type of stuff. 834 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh your looker up. 835 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: She familiar? Yeh familiar. 836 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but no, Justin Long. 837 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,079 Speaker 1: That's another one where it's like I got Austin Abrams, 838 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:41,920 got June Day and Marine Phiel, I got Julie Gardner, 839 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,199 and then just because he was such a delight in Barbarian. 840 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,480 Oh yeah, it sucks. That sucks. Like it's good that 841 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,519 he's in there. I wish he was in something bigger. 842 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,199 But I hope that this is like a reoccurring thing. 843 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,280 I hope when every Zach Gregor, like justin long. 844 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,079 Speaker 4: Pops up like on average, he's coming. 845 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely get him in there, like and just because to 846 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,880 me he's a very underrated actor. So when he popped 847 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,599 up in there, I liked where Archer just gets strong 848 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,639 willed by the mom like I'm not showing you that footage, 849 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,760 like I don't feel con ball, like you gotta leave, 850 00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:13,199 and he just waits for the husband who's like getna 851 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,199 bend over back where like like he. 852 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: Just long plays him. 853 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,159 Speaker 1: He's like you can tell where he's one hurt. Also 854 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,320 because his kids was kind of comes off like a 855 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,880 little pathetic, right and like yeah, like what do you mean? 856 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,760 And then boom they're in the room and he lost 857 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,199 the argument and he's showing the footage. But it did 858 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,719 help and then luckily it kind of you know, got 859 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,599 him on the track to start leaving Justine. 860 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,679 Speaker 2: Because that guy, uh so. 861 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: Obviously he did paint that they'd show the scene where 862 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,960 he got the wrong paint. He's like a construction worker, 863 00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,760 so what he uses that paint for is to paint 864 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,159 witch on the teacher's car. Do you think he was 865 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,880 also doing the knocking and the doorbelling just to fuck. 866 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 2: With her or do you think that man the paint 867 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,719 I get as like a forty fifth drow man. 868 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,679 Speaker 1: I don't get the fucking just like Josh Broling ringing 869 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880 like running away, like imagine someone seeing they're like, what 870 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,599 the fuck is Archier doing out there? 871 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: You know? 872 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,039 Speaker 2: But uh, because yeah, he's fully convinced it's her. 873 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: But then once he sees what happens with Ben Nikwong, 874 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440 which I appreciate that he like three times like save 875 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,400 Julie Gardner says okay, he because I wasn't sure if 876 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440 he was gonna take that as like, oh yeah, you 877 00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,039 clearly did something, maybe did someone him, But he starts 878 00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,800 to put together like okay, something's going on. I thought 879 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,079 a very brutal scene of how they turned Ben Nitwong 880 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:27,199 where it's just like him and his husband and they 881 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,239 they have some weird dinner set up where it's like 882 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,199 Carrot's branch tipping like six hot dogs on a trade. 883 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,639 But they're gonna watch some programs together. Fucking Gladys shows up. 884 00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,920 Because great scene too before where when they set up 885 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,119 that he has to Julie Gardner again, Like it's a 886 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,039 string of good scenes, is why I said before, like 887 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,079 I have some issues, but see it because there's so 888 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,519 much good stuff in there. When Julia Gardner goes to 889 00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:51,639 check on Austin or was it Austin right, the little 890 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,519 kid Alas or Alex, I said, awesome, I apologize before 891 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,679 And she goes to the house and all the house 892 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,760 of newspapers on the windows, and she looks in one 893 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,880 wind know and sees like the parents sit in there 894 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,559 and they're just like statues. 895 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: Pretty much, great little reveal there. 896 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: But when she like makes the case of okay, child engagement, 897 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,559 and Bennett Wong gets involved, like okay, half gonna talk 898 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:14,480 to the guardian. She just to make sure that Alex 899 00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,119 is doing fine. And the Gladys has to come because 900 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,119 obviously she has these people on the voodoo. They can't 901 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,960 go great shot when she's walking through the glass and 902 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,719 because like her wig and the bright color, like you 903 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,039 just see like the silhouette of her coming and it's great, 904 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,679 and benig Wan's face is like what's going on here, 905 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,400 but he establishes like, hey, it doesn't matter if you're 906 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,800 the aunt. 907 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: Hell well you know the family. I need to speak 908 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,880 to a guardian. 909 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: So they set up that like Gladys is like her 910 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,280 her the rope is starting to fall, which again even 911 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,880 then though it's like once he ended up dead, like 912 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,360 eventually something like is gonna pick up what she's doing. 913 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,199 But that's fine. So she decides, Okay, well, Benik Wong, 914 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,079 he has to go. She shows up to his place, 915 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,280 needs some water, uh, and they let him in, which 916 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,239 I love that Mark is like like telling osman like 917 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,920 not to let her in, like pretty like he's trying 918 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,639 to be nice. But the husband lets her in and 919 00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,320 he does the voodo. Where the voodo is, she has 920 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,159 some tree that's grown, she's a branch. She has thorns, 921 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,400 so she cuts herself, gets a bunch of blood, wipes 922 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,239 it all over the thorns. 923 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 2: She gets a piece of the person's hair. 924 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,159 Speaker 1: That wants to be killed or taken over and wraps 925 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,480 around this thing and then breaks and does their command. 926 00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,400 The only way to stop it is dropping in the water. 927 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,800 And yeah, poor Marcus and his husband, which I'm pretty 928 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,559 sure that is the director that was playing Bennett Wong's husband. 929 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 2: I think that Zach Gregor. 930 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,159 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him much, but yeah, then Kwang just 931 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,880 head butts him to shit and he's just like a 932 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,800 broken skull. 933 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,199 Speaker 2: And then he just runs out of there. 934 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: So terrible ending for that character who was relatively just 935 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,800 a good guy, you know, like nothing like that deserved 936 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,679 any of that fate. But then after that kills when 937 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,360 Josh Bowen's Chacter's like, Okay, I don't think this teacher 938 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,320 is this teacher is no, not a bad person, Like 939 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,679 this teacher clearly is looped into something here, and they 940 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,760 get the map and stuff, but yeah, no, I thought 941 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,119 there's some good reveals there. 942 00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:59,039 Speaker 2: And yeah, the voodoo, Like I wasn't thinking of voodoo. 943 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like I think we 944 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,519 talked about for trailers, like a sinister situation where we're 945 00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,559 not saying like sinister, but like a bgoul where this 946 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,639 it's something grand or supernatural, especially with kids. It's like, 947 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,760 is that a play on the bogey Man or what 948 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880 it may be? But it was like, obviously voodoo is 949 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,480 still supernatural, but that's more just to the point. And 950 00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:20,199 they never explained why do you think she wanted all 951 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,760 those kids? 952 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 3: Uh, rejuvenation, I'd say, because that's what they were hinting 953 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,800 out with the parents. And then she's like, oh, the parents, 954 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,039 they're not really able to help me or anything like that. 955 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair so, and they never said that I don't 956 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,000 need that, that's fine, but uh but yeah, that's where 957 00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:37,800 she got all these kids to run and they were 958 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,320 just chilling in her basement and uh yeah. And then 959 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,119 what did you feel about the James character, because that's 960 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,360 when we have talked about he's pops up. And that's 961 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,119 why I got very excited because I didn't know Austin 962 00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:50,920 names in this. I knew we heard rumors and he 963 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,840 is the lead of Resident Evil. But when Julia Gardner 964 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,400 goes to the liquor store the first time, he is 965 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,400 at the door like busting and asking her for money. 966 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,119 And I saw him. They're like, oh, there's fuck in 967 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,559 Austin Abrams. I can't wait, And man did he deliver here. 968 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,320 He's playing like a meth head who's just like stealing 969 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,800 stuff trying to get money X, Y and Z, but 970 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,800 does a really great job. But he gets looped in 971 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,199 this because he just ransacks that house and then finds 972 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,880 all those kids in there, and of course the kids 973 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,360 has a fifty thousand dollars reward. 974 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,119 Speaker 2: But yeah, what are you thinking about all this? 975 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 3: I almost thought he was like the older brother or 976 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,679 something like that. And he's going back to his family 977 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,320 house and he was kicked out. He was gonna steal 978 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,880 some stuff, but no, not the case. He just happened 979 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,880 along that house unfortunately for him. And yeah, everything everything 980 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,239 with that just it worked for me. The character was 981 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,920 really really good and you just you felt like crap 982 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,679 for him, I guess to a point. And yeah, him 983 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,199 trying to get the reward was very very fitting. The 984 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,360 phone calls were very humorous. And then his dynamic with 985 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,920 Paul was it worked worked with me. Just when he's like, Okay, 986 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,519 I'm gonna go to the station and like say what 987 00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,280 I know, and just Paul is like I told you 988 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:03,000 to fucking just brutal, brutal, and the obviously with what 989 00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,719 with what follows, but their whole dynamic, like I thought 990 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,679 things were gonna work out fine when they're at that 991 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,960 house and Paul goes in and knocks the door and everything, 992 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,679 and James is like, what the fuck what's going on? 993 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,639 And then when it cuts and it's like just all 994 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,519 the nighttime, it's like, oh, fuck, okay, now you know 995 00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:21,960 shit's not poor. 996 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Guy just left in there for hours and then gets 997 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,360 pulled out and yeah, same thing. He didn't have a 998 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,920 good ending as well too. You got head shotted and 999 00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,679 killed because they made when you get infected by his voodoo, 1000 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:35,840 you're impervious to pain and even stuff like at one 1001 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,760 point Paul gets shot in the thrown and he's still going. 1002 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800 But if it's like a clear headshot or something like that, 1003 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,519 a kill shot that will stop you, which which I like. 1004 00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:44,199 I think that's a good way to still put limits 1005 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:45,360 on the on the body. 1006 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,599 Speaker 3: You know, the audience at my theater was just in tears, laughing, 1007 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,840 just with the whole Archer and Paul or sorry, Archer 1008 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,320 and James thing, which oh yeah, Archer would just boom 1009 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,360 and then he's like and then he just wakes back 1010 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,000 up and then knocked out and wakes back up. 1011 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: I was killing it in my theater. 1012 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, my theater like that too. So yeah, let's take 1013 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,760 her probably last ad break. Then we'll be right back, 1014 00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,039 and we're back so we can talk about I think 1015 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,800 another good, really good thing. 1016 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: And this is like a slower part of the movie. 1017 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:18,719 But when you get to Alex's. 1018 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: Story just because it's it's such a sad like you 1019 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,960 go from little kid living his life just like and 1020 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,000 what I like about is too that they set up 1021 00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,880 the parents to be like caring parents, but normal parents. 1022 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,440 So I was like, hey, you know your room's dirt. 1023 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,159 You're like, you know, it's not fair that we clean it. 1024 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 2: You got to do that. 1025 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,559 Speaker 1: But there's still love there with the parents. So for me, 1026 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,599 what I really liked is you set the kids up 1027 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,239 knife to life to be pretty normal, right, and they 1028 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,519 show that there's like some like bullying going on, but 1029 00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:50,760 that's not the reason. He doesn't give up the kids, 1030 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,400 saying like, oh, maybe you know, Aunt Glass, you could 1031 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760 take them out, because yeah, what happens is the setup 1032 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,639 is that she they the parents tell Alex like, hey, 1033 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,159 you're her Aunt's really sick. We've not seen her attentions, 1034 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:03,519 but she's gonna come stay at this because she all 1035 00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,920 has nowhere to stay. And then already night one, like 1036 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,239 the parents, they're just staring at the table, like they're 1037 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,960 sitting the table, just staring at each other. They're just 1038 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,760 pretty much look like they are vegetables, but they're still alive. 1039 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,199 And he has to, you know, give them soup and 1040 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,480 feed them and not tell anyone. Coase Glass says, Hey, 1041 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,920 if you tell anybody, I'm gonna hurt you. I'm gonna 1042 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,639 hurt your parents, and she does an example by she 1043 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,360 makes them like take forks and just stab themselves on 1044 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,840 the face. So it's a great setup of like, of course, yeah, 1045 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000 why would a kid not say anything this terrible thing's 1046 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,440 happening in their home. But it's literally, hey, I'm gonna 1047 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,159 kill your parents. And at this point they've showed the 1048 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,400 parents to be caring and loving, so you wouldn't want that, right, 1049 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,039 It's not like a broken household or anything like a 1050 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:45,000 Leon the professional or something, so that happens. And I 1051 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,559 thought it was just like a good, very depressing, you know, 1052 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,119 story and montage of Alex what he does. He goes 1053 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,199 to school every day and he feeds his parents and 1054 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,000 he just sits there quietly and he does rinse, repeat, 1055 00:43:58,199 --> 00:43:59,559 And then when all the kids are there, it's worse 1056 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,280 because not only does he have to feed his parents 1057 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,880 his can soup, he has to feed these kids. So 1058 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,400 I thought it was just so depressing when you're seeing 1059 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,360 the innocence of a child just be taken away and 1060 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960 uh and it just for a month. Yeah, And I 1061 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,760 think it really does a good job of it, doesn't 1062 00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,400 It makes me like Gladys is like a performance wise, 1063 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,280 because I think the actresses is a phenomenal job, but 1064 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,079 like you don't you're not rooting for this villain at 1065 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,480 any point. And then the ending, like we talked about, 1066 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,719 where you know, our two characters justin Archers start to 1067 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,440 figure out, Paul and James kind of get in there, 1068 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:30,760 I would say. 1069 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: Semi accidentally in a way. They get possessed. 1070 00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:36,679 Speaker 1: They fight, and then eventually the kid has seen you know, 1071 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,760 access seen this enough that okay, I'm gonna make it, 1072 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,719 do my own voodoo. 1073 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,199 Speaker 2: He does it. 1074 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: He gets all the kids to run after, run after 1075 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,880 and Glass, which. 1076 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 4: Is so good. That's I love that scene. 1077 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a really good scene because it's just 1078 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,719 like a bunch of tracking, a bunch of like Glass 1079 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,719 runs to her house and the kids burst through the rooms. 1080 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,679 It's not like a continuous one shot, but there's lots 1081 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,920 of one shots. It's it played up to be like 1082 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719 someone it feels smit a barbarian where it's played to 1083 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,119 be like somewhat comedic. 1084 00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: And then when they get her, they just rip her apart. 1085 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: And but yeah, what do you think about the the 1086 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,800 ending here with the Alex and the kids go after him. 1087 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,320 You talk about a little of the brawl and whatnot, 1088 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,960 But yeah, how did a glass ending over you? 1089 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: Everything that these possessed people do, they do under the 1090 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,639 command of Gladys Like. She's telling them, She's talking to them, 1091 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:25,000 telling them. 1092 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 4: What to do. 1093 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 3: So when you see Paul walk out of the house 1094 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,800 and motion very freakishly, like, why the fuck would you 1095 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,039 trust that motioned them to come in, and then they 1096 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,360 come in, Gladys is telling them to do that. How 1097 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,719 did Gladys know that they were out there? 1098 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: How did it? 1099 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 3: Glads Like she's obviously very intelligent, very tactical, and very smart, 1100 00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:49,320 but it's just I don't understand how she was preconceived, 1101 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,679 knowingly under like, precognitively aware that was going to happen, 1102 00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:56,920 because she set traps for them, and you could see 1103 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,760 when they walk in the house. 1104 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: You could see James in the corner there. 1105 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 3: And then obviously there's the line of salt, and I 1106 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:05,039 like that Archer cut onto that right away, but it 1107 00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,199 was too late. As soon as she steps on the 1108 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,880 salt and they just fucking charge. Yeah, and then the 1109 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,280 scene when Alex like decides to do it and he 1110 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,760 steps on the don't. 1111 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: Don't step on that salt, So she did. 1112 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,079 Speaker 4: She did, Yeah, but he knew he had to get 1113 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,719 in there. And I like the child actors were fucking 1114 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,360 incredible in this. 1115 00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:25,079 Speaker 3: They did such a good sho Alex did such a 1116 00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:26,599 good job, and he just had to be very like 1117 00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,880 a stagnant, like calm, depressed, kind. 1118 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,159 Speaker 4: Of terrified kid. 1119 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 3: But I like how it paid off when he was 1120 00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:36,320 he learned and he figured out how to do the ritual, 1121 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,960 and so him him running from the parents, the mom 1122 00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:44,559 in so many of these scenes just was fucking terrifying, 1123 00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:48,400 especially that camera angle when he's sitting on the floor 1124 00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:51,920 back against the bathroom door and he's doing his like 1125 00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:55,880 his thing, and you're waiting for Gladys to get killed, 1126 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,440 and like the camera is his perspective and he looks 1127 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:01,280 up at the door that's being small head is in 1128 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,880 the door looking down him, screaming fucked and just terrifying. 1129 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,199 So many of those those kind of shots were so 1130 00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:10,760 top tier in this movie. 1131 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,159 Speaker 4: Uh so, yeah, I really really like that. 1132 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,039 Speaker 3: And yeah, just everything with the kids breaking out, uh 1133 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:20,840 and Gladys just five minutes of Gladys fucking keeping like 1134 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800 she was pacing herself, well she was. 1135 00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,639 Speaker 1: She was, yeah, oh yeah, but I guess it's adrenaline 1136 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,679 because you know your dad. 1137 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: Because she healed her, right, Yeah, she knows what happens. 1138 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,239 But the kids healed her right. Just the kids screaming 1139 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:39,280 and her just running all these people's houses and the 1140 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,519 kids are just a fucking wave of seventeen kids just 1141 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:43,079 charging her. 1142 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,159 Speaker 4: I loved it when they jumped through the windows, just. 1143 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: Going interactions of people's in those houses, like archerwalks like 1144 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,480 now there's a man in our house. 1145 00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:52,679 Speaker 3: Like good stuff, and the dad too, and he's like, oh, 1146 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,679 they ruined the lawn, honey. 1147 00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:57,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no idea what's going on. 1148 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: There's there's one good shot too where I think there's 1149 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,239 like a guy walking a dog or he's like a 1150 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,760 mailman and he looks at a house and here's the commotion. 1151 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,719 You just see Gladys run by and then yeah, oh yeah. 1152 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,800 They give it a beat or two and then it's. 1153 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: Like then all the kids follow her, and uh yeah. 1154 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: There's there's some good stuff that's like a very great 1155 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,239 sequence in the theaters and fun just to watch with 1156 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,079 people and see what's going on there. And hey, it's 1157 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,920 make a character that's a terrible piece of ship. They 1158 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,320 give him gave her a satisfying ending as far as 1159 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,880 just being destroyed by these kids. 1160 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 4: So yeah, what a way to go. 1161 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,159 Speaker 3: Like I thought they were just gonna be like choking 1162 00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,719 her and punching her when they actually see them rip 1163 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,880 the top of her head off. 1164 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:38,559 Speaker 2: Yeah ho shit. 1165 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 3: Which the other thing too, that just gross when uh 1166 00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:47,400 uh uh gosh, why can't I Justine's character takes the 1167 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,960 potato peeler off the counter and just goes like two 1168 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,679 full strokes. 1169 00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 4: Right underneath the side burns on his cheek, on his face. 1170 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,119 Speaker 2: Fuck, it's gonna burn. 1171 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,039 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah, And then what I found was, 1172 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,239 which is, I don't know how I feel about it. 1173 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: It's an interesting choice, so I put it in the positive. 1174 00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: But then the little girl who was telling the story, 1175 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,519 because it's almost like a folk tale right at the 1176 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,039 beginning about like oh why how it happened? And it's 1177 00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,840 told like with a kid, she's like like like says 1178 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,519 like liking ums and you know things we sometimes stay 1179 00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:19,280 in the podcast like. 1180 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: As I just did. 1181 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: It feels more just like a schoolyard story that they're spreading. 1182 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,119 But what I found is very interesting that Okay, so 1183 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,679 they kill Glass, which I guess I just the kid 1184 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,639 knew which branch to get to control the kids, because 1185 00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,920 I didn't understand why all the voodoo people weren't going 1186 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,159 after Gladys. Then, right, because he gets a branch, breaks it, 1187 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,559 cuts himself, puts glasses hair, and then breaks it. I'm 1188 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,880 just headcanning that he knows some you know, this part 1189 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,159 of the tree does this for that, but it feels 1190 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:54,599 all that the other people wouldn't go for it. 1191 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 2: Right, he. 1192 00:49:58,039 --> 00:49:58,599 Speaker 4: How does it work? 1193 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,079 Speaker 3: So the specific branch has an item of the person 1194 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,159 and their hair of the target. Right, so he knew 1195 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,880 obviously she had to keep these kids here, she was 1196 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,159 controlling them, just like she probably had a branch for 1197 00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:14,679 the parents somewhere. But yeah, she kept the branch there 1198 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,400 for the kids, and so he knew to grab that 1199 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,440 specific Okay. 1200 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah then I can do that. All works for me then, 1201 00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:22,400 and not that this point doesn't work for me. I 1202 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,440 just felt very interesting that Okay, they kill Glass. When 1203 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,800 that happens, that does kind of like break the curse overall. 1204 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,880 So the parents snap out of it because Archer at 1205 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,199 one point they killed Paul and like I said, like 1206 00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:35,920 a little emotional there for Julia Gardner, I think acting 1207 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,920 wise was great, but you know it's there wasn't too 1208 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,800 much more with the character in their dynamic. I think 1209 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,159 that's why they could have just had been like a 1210 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,519 X's and drop a lot of his stuff. But Archer's 1211 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:48,360 choking her and then we're just kind of funny. I 1212 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,280 feel like when he gets out of the trance saying thing, 1213 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,480 he just like drops Justine. 1214 00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:53,119 Speaker 2: He's just like looking for. 1215 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: His son and he's like, math, dude, Matthew, like didn't 1216 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,320 even check, Like you probably broke this woman's woe fighte. 1217 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,880 But what I found was interesting choice is just goes upstairs, 1218 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,760 sees Alex. He's talking to his parents, and then the 1219 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,519 kid starts to narrate again and says that he didn't 1220 00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:08,239 he end up with an aunt that's now like a 1221 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,599 nice aunt, you know, not like Aunt Gladys, but pretty 1222 00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,840 much that his parents were probably committed somewhere that they didn't. 1223 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:16,199 Speaker 2: Recover from this. 1224 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah. 1225 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: And then they kind. 1226 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: Of said about the kids where they said, you know, 1227 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,440 they got them back, but they were really the same, 1228 00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,960 and they said, like, you know, only a few of 1229 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,719 them have said a couple of words, and that's where 1230 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,000 it's like that like I said, very interesting choice. 1231 00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of Barbarian where. 1232 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,119 Speaker 1: You know Spoils movie if you've not seen so skip 1233 00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:39,559 ahead where at the end of that movie, obviously you 1234 00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:41,800 got justin long, you got the main character, and you 1235 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,519 got the barbarian and like the mother, right, but when 1236 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,360 our main character has to kill the mother, she like thinks, 1237 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,039 you know, the monster's like, oh you're my baby. Like 1238 00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:56,360 it's very like only melancholy and very sad that okay, 1239 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,679 like I obviously have to kill this thing because I've 1240 00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:00,639 never escape. 1241 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 2: But it's not it's not like a it's not like 1242 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,639 a big win. It's not like a hell yeah, Like 1243 00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:07,119 it's not like and don't be wrong, this is a 1244 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:07,400 good thing. 1245 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,119 Speaker 1: It's like, let's say me in Evil Dead, where when 1246 00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,960 she gets that chainsaw, you're like, yeah, destroy this thing, 1247 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,400 right where this is like, oh it's sad, same thing 1248 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,320 here where okay, of course they get the kids back 1249 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,119 and everything, but it's not just like uh oh the 1250 00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:21,920 curse is snapped. 1251 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,559 Speaker 2: Everyone's okay. 1252 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,639 Speaker 1: It's those parents are done and it sounds like these 1253 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,480 kids have I would say, like just all like big 1254 00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,519 mental challenges now where whether they can maybe recover. Maybe 1255 00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:34,079 it's something that eventually, after twenty thirty years, they can 1256 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,679 be normal people. But the fact that these kids are, 1257 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,559 you know, i'd say in middle school, like mid middle school. 1258 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: Then we go in to high school and they taught. 1259 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,519 Speaker 1: Like the person's narrating makes it sound like it's been 1260 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,880 a couple of years at least, or however, I have 1261 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,440 to watch that again. But the fact that these kids, 1262 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,119 some of them, don't even fully recover, is like, man, 1263 00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:53,400 that's what a bummer like. 1264 00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 2: Like, that's that's that's pretty messed up. Sea. What do 1265 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,800 you think about that ending there? 1266 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I took it as the kids that talked, they 1267 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,440 made a comeback, they bounced back, but. 1268 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 4: They have the parents. 1269 00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 3: The moment I saw that, okay, she died, Gladys died, 1270 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,519 and then Alex was talking the parents and you see 1271 00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:10,960 that shot of them, I was like, oh no, the 1272 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,559 parents are toast. They're just they're out to lunch. They're 1273 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:18,519 not they're not present cognitively. So uh yeah, that wasn't that. 1274 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:21,079 I was fine with the ending. I thought it worked out, 1275 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:25,800 and uh yeah, it worked out, but they the parents, 1276 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,000 the parents got the kids back. 1277 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: I think that you get like a shadow kid back 1278 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,440 though for a while, and some of them. 1279 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if all of them recover, you know. 1280 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna head canon that it takes a little 1281 00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:37,719 bit longer and they do come back, but. 1282 00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: Sure say that. 1283 00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: So that's why I was like, they went with this 1284 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,440 really down randing, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, 1285 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,920 but it's just like, man, yankes, you got everyone back, 1286 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,800 but at what cost? 1287 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,159 Speaker 2: You know? 1288 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and obvious you want them back, but it's just like, 1289 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,639 you know, they're like I said, they did a good 1290 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,719 job of having that dread throughout the movie. So yeah, 1291 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,639 is there anything else that we didn't talked about? 1292 00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: Touch What'll see for one. 1293 00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 3: One more scene that I really enjoyed too is when 1294 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:05,920 Archer was down there and he's trying to find his 1295 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,639 son Matthew and goes kid to kid and he just 1296 00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,920 he glances to the side and you see Gladys just 1297 00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:12,440 crouched and smiled. 1298 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 4: Just sprouts up on him. 1299 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 3: It's like, fuck, when she wasn't in the bath or 1300 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,599 in the bedroom, but Alex is in there, I thought, Oh, 1301 00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,440 she's totally in the fucking basement, just waiting down there 1302 00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:22,480 this whole time. 1303 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: He should have fucking tossed her like he did to James, 1304 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,360 you know. He Yeah, strength was gone all of a 1305 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719 sudden there. But yeah, good scene, even though I was like, 1306 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,639 why she just kind of like sitting there. I guess, 1307 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,840 like I guess to get him right. She did that 1308 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,079 so she could have control of him, so he got 1309 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,199 to actually gardener right, so that that all worked out. 1310 00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:41,320 I thought was like she deliberately looked like a I 1311 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,199 liked the scare. 1312 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,199 Speaker 2: I think they could done another take. 1313 00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:46,159 Speaker 1: Because they felt like the actress looked like she was 1314 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,639 really in like a horror movie. Like it just felt 1315 00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:50,760 like an unnaturally why she po wasn't like this, but 1316 00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:52,760 it was a good jump scared done the last so 1317 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,840 and uh yeah, he just got a sum back I guess. 1318 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,679 So hopefully he's not sleeping in that bed anymore, which 1319 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,400 I get. That was a fun kind of all back 1320 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,079 where he's sleeping in a Batman bed and he was 1321 00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,360 almost Batman and BBS. 1322 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,599 Speaker 2: So that's kind of funny that that happened. So yeah, well. 1323 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you just went I'll go yeah overall, like 1324 00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:15,079 I said, kind of similar to the opening, Great time 1325 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,199 at the theaters. I think it's a very very good 1326 00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,920 original for as far as being original top tier marks, 1327 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,480 maybe not everything hits. I got some issues here there, 1328 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,880 but I didn't regret my time, and it's still at 1329 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,559 the point where hey, next time. Obviously, Resident Evil, I'm 1330 00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:29,639 a fan that franchise, so he's doing that. But even 1331 00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:31,480 if it wasn't, if it was just like another original IP, 1332 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,800 it's like, Okay, it wasn't just like a Oh he 1333 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,079 had a great idea, great execution with the Barbarian, but 1334 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,199 the next go around, maybe not as much. It shows, Okay, 1335 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,199 two under the belts me two for two a very 1336 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,400 good original horror concept, which is, you know, one of 1337 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,119 my favorite genres. And yeah, I'll as far as right 1338 00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:50,559 now if the quality keeps like this, this movie is 1339 00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,320 like a Barbarian for me, where it's not like another 1340 00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,199 It's not a ten out of ten, but again, I'm 1341 00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:57,119 gonna give this movie an eight out of ten if 1342 00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,159 you really enjoyed an a ten. That can still get 1343 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:00,400 me to the point where hey, I want to see 1344 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,559 your work. Not everything has to be this is the 1345 00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:04,800 best horror the last second. No, it's just a very 1346 00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:07,119 very good horror movie to be I don't like and 1347 00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:08,079 maybe when I rewatch it. 1348 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 2: I'll I'll say it's great. 1349 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: Like I said in the opening, I think there's great sequences, 1350 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480 and I think especially the first act that to me 1351 00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:14,000 is great. 1352 00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,039 Speaker 2: That's like a ten and ten really no notes. 1353 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,159 Speaker 1: But there's a few things throughout that kind of you know, 1354 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,960 bring it down for some stuff we talked about that 1355 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000 I think is clear cut, and some stuff that maybe 1356 00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:24,400 I need to rewatch something about, because even Long Legs, 1357 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,800 I had that where I watched it and then I 1358 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,920 did enjoy it more and Barbaria and I enjoyed more. 1359 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,679 Speaker 2: And that's where I. 1360 00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 1: Think with horror and when they go original and it's 1361 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,639 not like a remake or an IP where we know 1362 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,800 all the beats. When it's introducing a new you know, 1363 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,400 context or world, you do need to sit with those 1364 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,920 a little bit because you're not preconceived as far as 1365 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,599 you haven't thought about before. Right like the next time 1366 00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,519 we get a nightmare on Elm Street, I know how 1367 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:48,639 the dream world works. So that's already done. That homeworks 1368 00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:52,280 complete right where this whole branch voodo. That's that's something else. 1369 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,920 So but yeah, an eight and had ten for me, 1370 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,639 so and I think that's what i'd give bar I 1371 00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:57,480 think Barbarian I give like a seven to seven point 1372 00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:59,440 five retractive, they give the it's yeah, both of them 1373 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,119 to be are ad ten and yeah that's where I am. 1374 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:04,280 Definitely some stuff and Golden EEGs will talk about maybe 1375 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,480 not like everything. I don't know if i'd be fighting 1376 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,039 for it for best Film. You never know what's in 1377 00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:09,880 there though, is you know we saw last year at 1378 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,400 the Dune controversy. But yeah, I would definitely bring this 1379 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,800 up again at the end of the year. But yeah, 1380 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,440 how about your self found thoughts in a rating? 1381 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like I said at the start of the show, 1382 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,039 I went in thinking it wasn't gonna be necessarily suited 1383 00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:26,119 to me and my tastes after seeing Barbarian, because Barbarian 1384 00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:30,280 was just one an experience. But I was pleasantly surprised 1385 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:30,960 this movie. 1386 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 4: It kept me engaged with the. 1387 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 3: Different chapters and the story and then incorporating the voodoo 1388 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,679 and just how freaky these people were when they got 1389 00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:40,159 possessed and everything will Glass. 1390 00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,519 Speaker 4: It was really really working for me. 1391 00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,519 Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna give it the same rank I 1392 00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:47,239 gave both Barbarian. Beca's pretty sure that it was a 1393 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,519 full ten out of ten. I'm gonna go nine point 1394 00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:52,719 five though, because for me, it's close, it's really close 1395 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,679 behind and it's just such a dang good movie. This 1396 00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:58,159 is one that I want to buy for sure and 1397 00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:01,199 add to the shelf because I just I'm happy to 1398 00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:03,880 be in this new age. Like usually when Halloween rolls around, 1399 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,199 I'm popping the classics on I cycle through Friday thirteenths 1400 00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:12,039 Halloween's you know, the old ones and wrong Turns and 1401 00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,880 all that kind of stuff, those older spooky horror movies, 1402 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,880 child's playing jobs, and so just to be here and 1403 00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:24,440 have a roster of modern day horror movies at chapter 1404 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,039 one that's on our rotation. Long Legs are Burian and 1405 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,440 now weapons Like, it's just it's really really nice to 1406 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,280 just be able to cycle through these newer ones. 1407 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is definitely on that list. 1408 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 3: Of Halloween films to cycle through, and yeah, I'll be 1409 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,760 recommending it to people for sure. It's just it's got 1410 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,519 a lot of spook to it, a good little bit 1411 00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:46,960 of comedy, and visually, it's just the way they shot 1412 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,079 some of the scenes and did some stuff is really 1413 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,719 really good. And I enjoyed everyone's performances in this movie. 1414 00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:54,360 It's all around. I just have a dang good time. 1415 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,159 And I was seeing it alone too, so I didn't 1416 00:58:57,159 --> 00:58:59,119 really feel alone, I guess with other people in the theater. 1417 00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 4: But now it was great. It was really really good. 1418 00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh there you go. 1419 00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, let us know whether it's on YouTube, Patreon, 1420 00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:07,079 the discord, your thoughts. 1421 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: I know some couple of our patrons. I've seen it already, 1422 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,519 so yeah, let us know. And we don't know when 1423 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:14,960 I think it's a NAT Well, I won't give a 1424 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,320 date yet. 1425 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about but the next two weeks we're 1426 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,400 gonna be doing After Night, and I think we're gonna 1427 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,840 be really talking about from June to now the summer 1428 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,960 movies because I think most of them are out now 1429 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000 so we can have a good conversation with all the 1430 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,559 patrons and whatnot and see what people's thoughts and takes are. 1431 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,800 But yeah, everyone, we'll be back maybe next week with 1432 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,400 the gig this episode and Proust. 1433 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: You I'll be boring. 1434 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 3: Bye bye,