Speaker 1: Tonight, we have a war, an election, and a deadly
Speaker 1: shooting to cover. Congressman Chip Roy of Texas is here. Also,
Speaker 1: the last time Colonel Douglas McGregor was on this program,
Speaker 1: he told us the future regarding attacks on Iran. We
Speaker 1: check back in to get his predictions on what happens
Speaker 1: next in this ongoing war. A member of the Iranian
Speaker 1: resistance joins us to sort out who has legitimacy within
Speaker 1: Iran at this moment. And Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller
Speaker 1: previews tomorrow's big primary election in Texas. It's all next
Speaker 1: to the Matt Gates Show. Let's do this shaking up Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 2: Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 3: It's like a machine.
Speaker 2: He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 1: What happens in Iran now that Komani is dead and
Speaker 1: a new supreme leader is to take control of the
Speaker 1: Persian country of nearly ninety million people. President Trump has
Speaker 1: said the US bombing campaign will continue. Six Americans have
Speaker 1: tragically been killed in Iran's retaliatory strikes on the United
Speaker 1: States bases in the Middle East. An American F fifteen
Speaker 1: was seen falling out of the sky in Kuwait today.
Speaker 4: How to be?
Speaker 5: How to be?
Speaker 1: We also got this picture of what appears to be
Speaker 1: an American pilot in the back of a Kuwaiti truck
Speaker 1: and another down pilot approached by Kuwaiti locals.
Speaker 6: What is yes, one minute, one minute? I should be
Speaker 6: but one minute, one minute? Minute, I'm here?
Speaker 4: You would save you can save everything?
Speaker 6: Good, no problem, Thank you for helping us everything quite.
Speaker 1: Central Command put out this statement on the incident, saying
Speaker 1: it was friendly fire and that three of our planes
Speaker 1: were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1: Defense contractors would regularly chief members of Congress on the
Speaker 1: Armed Services Committee like me about events like this. They
Speaker 1: might say something like, well, at least this proves the
Speaker 1: stuff we sold to Kuwait actually works. This war isn't
Speaker 1: even a week old, and US made weapons sold to
Speaker 1: a US ally were just used to shoot down three
Speaker 1: US planes with American pilots. Friendly fire casualties are among
Speaker 1: the most heartbreaking realities of war. Who could forget the
Speaker 1: story of NFL A safety Pat Tillman. He left a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar contract with the Arizona Cardinals to enlist in
Speaker 1: the United States Army following nine to eleven. He was
Speaker 1: killed in two thousand and four in a friendly fire incident.
Speaker 1: The military then lied about how he died for years.
Speaker 1: We now know the truth about Pat Tillman and the
Speaker 1: fog of war. President Trump said from mar A Lago
Speaker 1: that conducting this war is America's duty.
Speaker 2: We're undertaking this massive operation not merely to insure security
Speaker 2: for our own time and play, but for our children
Speaker 2: and their children, just as our ancestors have done for us.
Speaker 2: This is the duty and the burden of a free people.
Speaker 2: These actions are right, and they are necessary to ensure
Speaker 2: that Americans will never have to face a radical, bloodthirsty
Speaker 2: terrorist regime armed with nuclear weapons and lots of threats.
Speaker 1: Many of Iran's leadership have been killed in what we
Speaker 1: call a decapitation strike. Iran is trying to reconstitute a government.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind, this is an actual country ninety
Speaker 1: million people, not some jungle dictatorship, and not some Mexican cartel.
Speaker 1: This isn't an elmentcho scenario. The Iranian regime is considerably
Speaker 1: more sophisticated than any enemy. America has gone into direct
Speaker 1: kinetic WARWI and well over half a century, and we
Speaker 1: don't have a good track record of winning those wars
Speaker 1: against less capable nations than Iran. Iran today is militarily
Speaker 1: stronger than I was in two thousand and three. Iran
Speaker 1: has a larger active military about six hundred thousand personnel
Speaker 1: and significant paramilitary forces, missiles, and air defense systems, when
Speaker 1: compared to Iraq's two thousand and three military, which was smaller,
Speaker 1: less advanced, and often struggled with outdated equipment and poor
Speaker 1: performance against US led forces. And I don't even think
Speaker 1: we won the war in Iraq, do you. Iran surely
Speaker 1: has more capability than the Taliban, a bunch of goat herders,
Speaker 1: who we also lost a war to. Everything comes down
Speaker 1: to this, will Iran change behavior or double down on
Speaker 1: their prior misdeeds. Even though the United States is less
Speaker 1: reliant on oil out of the Persian Gulf than at
Speaker 1: any other time in our lives, oil markets are laser
Speaker 1: focused on the streets of Hormuz, through which twenty five
Speaker 1: percent of the world's oil flows, most of it to
Speaker 1: Asia and Europe. So the bottom line is, if oil
Speaker 1: doesn't start moving through those straits, China is going to
Speaker 1: be very upset, and that could shape more than just markets.
Speaker 1: It could be the last lever of control over Iran's
Speaker 1: current decision makers. In Iran itself, we have seen people
Speaker 1: celebrating in the streets. Oh wait, that wasn't Iran. That
Speaker 1: was Iraq in two thousand and three. This is Iran
Speaker 1: this weekend. Oh no, my bad, that that was actually
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. This is Iran. For just a moment, you
Speaker 1: probably thought that was Minneapolis. See, there's always a U
Speaker 1: four at the beginning of regime change, wars, patriotism, unity,
Speaker 1: belief that behind every dictator there is a Jeffersonian democracy
Speaker 1: just yearning to spring forward. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen in Iran, but I don't see signs that
Speaker 1: the regime is going to just surrender. And I don't
Speaker 1: believe President Trump or any sensible Americans want to see
Speaker 1: American blood spilled during some Iranian game of thrones, so
Speaker 1: that could potentially last years. What does seem clear to
Speaker 1: us is that Trump's posture is this, we killed the Ayahtola,
Speaker 1: now it's up to you Iran.
Speaker 2: I call upon all Iranian patriots who yearn for freedom
Speaker 2: to seize this moment to be brave, be bold, be heroic,
Speaker 2: and take back your country. America is with you. I
Speaker 2: made a promise to you, and I've fulfilled that promise.
Speaker 2: The rest will be up to you, but we'll be
Speaker 2: there to help.
Speaker 1: The rest will be up to you. That sounds like
Speaker 1: my wife and I dividing him the chores sometimes. The
Speaker 1: government of Iran made a decision in the hours following
Speaker 1: the USA attack that has many flu mixed. They started
Speaker 1: attacking their Arab neighbors, the UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Bahrain,
Speaker 1: basically every Gulf state that isn't Oman Oman is actually
Speaker 1: trying to get the parties back to the negotiating table.
Speaker 1: They say they're still room for peace. Most people think
Speaker 1: it was pretty dumb of Iran for their isolating themselves
Speaker 1: in the Middle East to begin a war by hitting
Speaker 1: other Muslim countries in their neighborhood. We also note the
Speaker 1: high quality of the response of those neighbors. The UAE
Speaker 1: air defense is dealt with one hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: ballistic missiles, two cruise missiles, and five hundred and forty
Speaker 1: one drones. Kuwait reports intercepting ninety seven ballistic missiles, two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three drones, and of course the three
Speaker 1: aforementioned US aircraft accidentally. Bahrain says it shot down forty
Speaker 1: five missiles and nine drones. Katar says it intercepted about
Speaker 1: eighteen ballistic missiles plus cruise missiles and other drones. Now
Speaker 1: we continue to follow reaction out of the Middle East.
Speaker 1: A Saudi political analyst publicly said the United States was
Speaker 1: prioritizing protecting Israel's air defenses over Gulf States amid the
Speaker 1: ongoing conflict with Irani. Claimed the US defenses were focused
Speaker 1: on Israel, leaving Golf states hosting US military assets more
Speaker 1: exposed to these Iranian drone attacks.
Speaker 7: American defense is focused on Israel without concern for the
Speaker 7: defense of the Arab Golf States, which hosts many military bases.
Speaker 7: There's kind of a resentment from the Gulf towards its
Speaker 7: American partner, who focuses on Israel's security and stability without
Speaker 7: concern for the defense needs of the Arab Gold States
Speaker 7: that are being subjected to Iranian strikes without American effort.
Speaker 1: In Pakistan, there have been violent protests at US diplomatic sites,
Speaker 1: especially at the US consulate in Karachi, thousands of demonstrators,
Speaker 1: angered by the killing of Auran Supreme leaders, stormed the consulate,
Speaker 1: breached outer walls, smashed the windows, and clashed with security forces,
Speaker 1: resulting in multiple injuries and deaths. I wouldn't be improving
Speaker 1: visas from there anytime soon. Also breaking tonight, Texas is
Speaker 1: mourning a mass shooting in downtown Austin at Buford's backyard
Speaker 1: beer garden, left three people dead, including the suspect, and
Speaker 1: fourteen injured. Police identified the gunman as fifty three year
Speaker 1: old Dunga Dengey, who was killed by officers at the scene.
Speaker 1: He wore clothing with Iranian linked symbols. The FBI is
Speaker 1: investigating possible connections to terrorism. We now go to the
Speaker 1: congressman who represents part of the greater Austin area joining
Speaker 1: US now Republican Texas Congressman and Texas Attorney General candidate
Speaker 1: Chip Roy Chip, we have a shooting, a war, and
Speaker 1: an election. Let's start with the shooting in Austin. It's
Speaker 1: a community you know well, I know speak with law
Speaker 1: enforcement throughout Texas regularly. What do you think the questions
Speaker 1: are right now that law enforcement's working to answer?
Speaker 8: Tonight well, I.
Speaker 9: Can tell you I just got the news the public.
Speaker 9: I've been on the phone with my friends at the
Speaker 9: University of Texas who are directly impacted by this. Jim Davis,
Speaker 9: the president of UT, is a friend of mine. We
Speaker 9: work together in the Office of Attorney General good Man.
Speaker 9: He's been working with the families and everybody, and they
Speaker 9: just publicly announced the names of two of the victims
Speaker 9: who passed away. There's a third that I think we're
Speaker 9: going to lose the day off of life support. This
Speaker 9: was all a direct consequence of having somebody in this
Speaker 9: country who shouldn't be here. And I know, you know,
Speaker 9: I want the people that I represent I'm around. I
Speaker 9: want them to be able to heal. I want them
Speaker 9: to be able to go pray, pray, I want them
Speaker 9: to be able to come together as a community. But
Speaker 9: I also have a duty as a leader of this
Speaker 9: country to say enough is enough, and that this broken
Speaker 9: immigration system is a total disaster. And we've got an
Speaker 9: individual here who came to this country in two thousand
Speaker 9: State is Visa then applied for legal permanent residency on
Speaker 9: the back of a marriage, a marriage that apparently no
Speaker 9: longer was in existence because once He got his citizenship
Speaker 9: under Obama in twenty twelve. He then tried to use
Speaker 9: that citizenship for two different women to get them in
Speaker 9: as citizens. He's from Senegal. He had a Quran in
Speaker 9: the back of his car. He had the shirt you're
Speaker 9: putting on the screen now that says property of a law.
Speaker 9: He had an Iranian flag shirt under the sweatshirt. He
Speaker 9: had social media posts that were clearly directed towards people
Speaker 9: who are allegedly anti Iran and you know, anti Muslim
Speaker 9: And this is preventable, right, And people say preventable violence
Speaker 9: they want to go after our guns are constitutionally protected, right,
Speaker 9: But we keep importing third world violent Islamists who want
Speaker 9: to destroy our country.
Speaker 10: Enough.
Speaker 1: We are currently at war with Iran. There's a war
Speaker 1: powers resolution coming up in the House. What is the
Speaker 1: administration communicated to Congress about what victory looks like in Iran?
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, you know, obviously they've done a
Speaker 9: briefing for the Big AID or whatever, and then today
Speaker 9: they did something else on the hill. And I'm not
Speaker 9: there yet, but tomorrow I'm flying back. Even though it's
Speaker 9: primary day in Texas, I'm going to be flying back
Speaker 9: to Texas. I mean flying back to DC to get
Speaker 9: a briefing, and then Christy Nome comes to Judiciary on Wednesday,
Speaker 9: so I'll be there. I can assure you what we're
Speaker 9: hearing is, you know her Marco Rubio today say that
Speaker 9: they expected Israel was going to make it a hit
Speaker 9: and that we needed to be ready for the fallout
Speaker 9: from that, and that it was better for us to
Speaker 9: align with them early and to go after and take
Speaker 9: out a lot of the resources of Iran. They were
Speaker 9: continuing to develop despite us taking out some of their
Speaker 9: nuclear capability with the.
Speaker 8: Bombing last year.
Speaker 9: And look, I actually have a fairly broad view, and
Speaker 9: you and I've talked about this before when you were
Speaker 9: in the House. I've got a broader view than some
Speaker 9: of our more kind of constitutional strict constructionist types and
Speaker 9: people that are more explicit or a libertarian. My view
Speaker 9: is pretty broad on the commander in chiefs authority, and
Speaker 9: I think here the president's acting fully within the scope
Speaker 9: of his authority. I think he's doing the right thing
Speaker 9: to push back on Iran and take out a lot
Speaker 9: of their facilities and to stand alongside Israel. But there's
Speaker 9: obviously a limit. The limit is when you start putting
Speaker 9: our troops on the ground for any significant length of
Speaker 9: time when any length of time starts to extend fairly long,
Speaker 9: and our ultimate power on this is really the power
Speaker 9: of the Purse, more than the War Powers Act, which
Speaker 9: as you know, both Republican and Democrat presidents for fifty
Speaker 9: years have questioned the validity of. So look, I think
Speaker 9: we need to be very resolute. I think we need
Speaker 9: to have oversight. I believe that no matter who's in
Speaker 9: the White House, we need to know that this is
Speaker 9: not going to be an endless war. But I trust
Speaker 9: the President and I trust his team to do exactly
Speaker 9: what they're doing, from JD to Marco and everybody involved
Speaker 9: in the Secretary headset to push back on Iran peace
Speaker 9: through strength, knock out their facilities, but do not get
Speaker 9: us embroiled in an endless conflict with boots on the
Speaker 9: ground like we experienced from two thousand and three until
Speaker 9: even still today, with you know, in terms of all
Speaker 9: the lingering repercussions of the War on Terror.
Speaker 1: What you described as a paradigm where when Israel tells
Speaker 1: us they're going to attack somewhere, we work to neutralize
Speaker 1: the retaliation. If that's the new state of play. Do
Speaker 1: you expect that we'll be joining Israel in bombing campaigns
Speaker 1: in Lebanon as well?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 9: This is one of the questions that has emerged that
Speaker 9: we need to go and have the conversations with the
Speaker 9: current leadership team to know what the next steps are.
Speaker 9: I think on this case, you're dealing with Iran, which
Speaker 9: was the sort of mothership, right the head of the
Speaker 9: snake Hesba lah Hamas, all of that was being coordinated
Speaker 9: and funded heavily by Iran. I have no problem going
Speaker 9: and trying to cut the head of the snake off,
Speaker 9: so long as we stay away from nation building, so
Speaker 9: long as we stay away from soccer fields like we're
Speaker 9: building in Baghdad, So long as we're not combing through
Speaker 9: the mountains of freaking Afghanist and trying to figure out
Speaker 9: how to help certain people vote or whatever while our
Speaker 9: guys are getting shot. I have no problems taking out
Speaker 9: bad guys artillery. We'll see what the next step is on.
Speaker 1: This Tomorrow's the attorney general election. How do us holding
Speaker 1: an election in the echo of this possible terrorist attack
Speaker 1: in Texas shape how people will think about selecting an
Speaker 1: attorney general?
Speaker 9: Well, today I'm visited with I don't know, maybe one
Speaker 9: hundred or so large number of my core supporters down
Speaker 9: in San Antonio and that have been with me as
Speaker 9: a member of Congress, that are supporting me for Attorney General.
Speaker 9: And look, what's on their mind is what's on you know,
Speaker 9: I think the average Americans mind is making sure that
Speaker 9: we're not engaged in endless war, making sure that Muslims
Speaker 9: and Islamists are not taking over Texas in this country,
Speaker 9: making sure that our border stays secure, making sure that
Speaker 9: we're actually delivering on our promises. For example, let's deliver
Speaker 9: on the Save America Act, Let's deliver on congressional stock
Speaker 9: trade bands, et cetera. They want to see us an act.
Speaker 9: I had a pretty big dust up with some of
Speaker 9: our Republican colleagues over the weekend in one of these
Speaker 9: calls where we're being told what's going to happen this week,
Speaker 9: and I made the point, Look, it's not enough to
Speaker 9: play prevent defense and say we all have to sing
Speaker 9: Kumbaya to win the election this November.
Speaker 8: But we need to be on offense. We need to fight.
Speaker 9: The Senate needs to be told to get in line,
Speaker 9: punch them in the nose and say you can actually
Speaker 9: move this bill in the Senate. Stop hiding behind the filibuster,
Speaker 9: stop hiding behind sixty votes, stand up, actually do your
Speaker 9: job and lead. And you know, look, I'm going to
Speaker 9: defend the big, beautiful bill to defend our unified position
Speaker 9: as Republicans, but we need to be on offense. And
Speaker 9: as Attorney General, I can assure you I'm going to
Speaker 9: take every step necessary in Texas to secure our border,
Speaker 9: to go after the NGOs, they're advancing the Islamis movement
Speaker 9: in Texas to make sure that we're defending our state
Speaker 9: no matter who's in the White House. So I expect
Speaker 9: us to have a good day tomorrow and to deliver
Speaker 9: a good result with the people of Texas. I hope
Speaker 9: to win it out right over fifty, but if not,
Speaker 9: we'll have a good runoff. Look when I ran for
Speaker 9: Congress the first time, I ran again to eighteen people,
Speaker 9: and then I want to run off, so we'll win
Speaker 9: one way the other.
Speaker 1: I just hope it's tomorrow, Texas Congressman ship Roy out
Speaker 1: on the campaign trail. Stay safe out there, my friend.
Speaker 3: Best of luck, Thanks Matt, God bless.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll speak with Colonel Douglas McGregor regarding Iran,
Speaker 1: and we'll continue to follow the terrorist attack in Texas,
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: The United States is now in another Middle East regime
Speaker 1: change war, this time with Iran. In September of last year,
Speaker 1: we invited Colonel Douglas McGregor on our program. He's a
Speaker 1: foreign policy expert and his informally advised President Trump on occasion,
Speaker 1: and he explained that the war between Iran and Israel
Speaker 1: had not ended, and in fact was only paused and
Speaker 1: would resume to listen to this and realize this is
Speaker 1: on September thirtieth of last year.
Speaker 11: We all know that a war between Israel and Iran
Speaker 11: is not over. That war is going to resume. It
Speaker 11: could resume any time now whenever. Ultimately the Israelis decided
Speaker 11: to resume it. So I think if we look at
Speaker 11: Egypt and look at Iran, those two, it's very obvious
Speaker 11: that something very bad is going to happen in the
Speaker 11: near future.
Speaker 1: Joining us now retired US Army colonel and former Secretary
Speaker 1: of Defense advisor Douglas McGregor, Colonel McGregor, you came on
Speaker 1: this program on September thirtieth of last year. You said
Speaker 1: Israel would attack Iran again and we would be back
Speaker 1: at war. Do you believe what the mainstream media has
Speaker 1: been reporting that this war began over the weekend due
Speaker 1: to a target of opportunity.
Speaker 8: No, not at all.
Speaker 11: In fact, I think the evidence is pretty substantial that
Speaker 11: the decision to wage this war was.
Speaker 8: Taken some time ago. I think that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 11: That after the first of the year, mister Dadiniah who
Speaker 11: came and visited with President Trump and Marlag and now
Speaker 11: we've had Secretary of State Rubio essentially tell a group
Speaker 11: of eight in the Senate that the Israelis actually launched
Speaker 11: their attack and we were not yet ready to do so,
Speaker 11: but decided we would join in in any case, since
Speaker 11: we had already planned.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 11: As it is, so, this has been on the agenda
Speaker 11: for a long time.
Speaker 1: Bet Do you see the regime right now as fragile
Speaker 1: at this point or resilient?
Speaker 11: Well, I think they're pretty resilient. Frankly, you know, lots
Speaker 11: of regimes look weak and they aren't. We thought the
Speaker 11: Russian regime was very, very weak when it wasn't, and
Speaker 11: I think we made that mistake again with Iron.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the country risks any sort of
Speaker 1: internal conflict or civil war like we saw in Iraq?
Speaker 1: Or do you expect this regime to reconstitute and to
Speaker 1: exact their control over the country.
Speaker 11: I think the current government of Iran will stand as
Speaker 11: long as there is a war now. I do think
Speaker 11: that probably by the summer, after the war is over,
Speaker 11: and I hope it's over by then, we'll see a
Speaker 11: new government emerge, one that is much more amenable to
Speaker 11: the population of Iran. But the Iranians are extremely nationalistic,
Speaker 11: and this is not a time when they are likely
Speaker 11: to sign on for the division fragmentation of their country
Speaker 11: or the destruction of their country. They are going to
Speaker 11: stand by the government whether they like it or not.
Speaker 1: Again, that being the theocratic government that exists now. I
Speaker 1: spoke to one of my sources in the Middle East
Speaker 1: who said, Matt, you don't understand the connection between the
Speaker 1: people who are in the IRGC and the faith infrastructure
Speaker 1: of the government. I mean, this is the only theocracy
Speaker 1: in the world. We don't have a high familiarity with this.
Speaker 1: How do you think that dynamic where these soldiers aren't
Speaker 1: just employed by a police force and power, they are
Speaker 1: religiously devoted to this as part of their faith. How
Speaker 1: do you think that should shape our thinking in the
Speaker 1: coming days and weeks.
Speaker 11: I think that may may be true for some of them,
Speaker 11: I think, frankly speaking, again, these are nationalists and the
Speaker 11: Persian component of Iranian culture and history has reasserted itself
Speaker 11: dramatically over the last several years. It's tiresome listening to
Speaker 11: commentators come on and talk about Iran today as though
Speaker 11: it hasn't.
Speaker 8: Changed in forty seven years. It's profoundly different.
Speaker 11: Most Iranians pay virtually no attention whatsoever to Ramadan. Women
Speaker 11: are not running around in bags. The mosques tend to
Speaker 11: be on the whole empty on Friday. So I think
Speaker 11: it's a mistake to impute too much to the theocracy.
Speaker 11: In fact, I think the theocracy understands that there's going
Speaker 11: to be a major compromise in how Iran is governed
Speaker 11: in the future.
Speaker 1: I spoke to a source insight our own government who
Speaker 1: was concerned prior to the attack that attack could strengthen
Speaker 1: the hand of some of Iran's hardliners in the regime.
Speaker 1: What do you know about some of the rising personalities
Speaker 1: here and do you think the dynamics that are playing
Speaker 1: out are likely to result in a more amenable government
Speaker 1: or a government that's more dug in.
Speaker 8: I think this country is going to stay the course.
Speaker 11: I think we had false expectations that Iran would.
Speaker 8: Fall apart in forty eight to seventy two hours.
Speaker 11: We imputed too much to what we thought was some
Speaker 11: major upheaval in the country when it wasn't.
Speaker 8: When there were protests.
Speaker 11: There are lots of people miserable and unhappy because of
Speaker 11: the economy, thanks in large part to our sanctions, but
Speaker 11: also a great deal of mismanagement by the government. But
Speaker 11: the population at large was not interested in overthrowing the
Speaker 11: government they're not going to overthrow it now, They're going.
Speaker 8: To stay the course.
Speaker 11: And the thing is that right now, I'm beginning to
Speaker 11: think more and more that logistics will decide the outcome.
Speaker 11: We're already running out of missiles in places like you
Speaker 11: and Cutter. The Navy has fired very, very few standard
Speaker 11: missiles or sea sparrows, and I get the impression our
Speaker 11: inventory is low. The Israelis have shot a lot of missiles,
Speaker 11: and I don't think they can keep this up indefinitely,
Speaker 11: and we can't produce enough to keep up. So it
Speaker 11: may be that ultimately logistics decides the real outcome, because
Speaker 11: I don't think there's any danger of the Iranians running
Speaker 11: out of missiles.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that the target package signifies an understanding
Speaker 1: of that dynamic to some degree in the Pentagon, because
Speaker 1: they've been shooting at the depots of the Iranian missiles
Speaker 1: to try to limit Iran's ability to retaliate against other
Speaker 1: Arab states US troops in the region. But we do
Speaker 1: have six dead Americans as we're having this conversation, and
Speaker 1: so you know, given Iran's production capacity, given what we
Speaker 1: know about what was taken out in this first wave
Speaker 1: of strikes. What do you assess as Iran's ability to
Speaker 1: inflict casualties going forward on US forces and assets in
Speaker 1: the region.
Speaker 11: I think the intensity and capability is growing. I'm not
Speaker 11: sure what we achieved in the first few days. You know,
Speaker 11: I've been through this before with the Coastovo Air campaign.
Speaker 11: Battle damage assessment is very, very difficult, and you don't
Speaker 11: know usually for at least three days what actually happened.
Speaker 11: Even then, it's sketchy inside Iran. I don't think we've
Speaker 11: had that much impact. I think we've focused initially on
Speaker 11: the leadership and that failed. There was obviously an attempt
Speaker 11: to try and decapitate the government. They made the Supreme
Speaker 11: Leader of martyr, but there's a civil government and there
Speaker 11: is a military command structure. Those things are still intact.
Speaker 11: I don't see any evidence that they have been shaken.
Speaker 11: We've been through this before with Germany, with France, fire bombing,
Speaker 11: cities destroyed, and it just didn't work. Now I'm hearing
Speaker 11: rumors that there is a plan now or maybe there
Speaker 11: always was, to try and organize the Kurds in northern
Speaker 11: Iraq and Syria. The Massad's always been involved with them
Speaker 11: to try and invade northern Iran. When I heard that,
Speaker 11: I concluded, we must be pretty desperate. I don't think
Speaker 11: our position is very strong right now. I think people
Speaker 11: are surprised at what they've encountered, and the intensity and
Speaker 11: the numbers of attacks continue to increase. But I don't
Speaker 11: even think we've seen most of the really lethal missiles
Speaker 11: yet from Iran.
Speaker 1: Why would they hold back? We killed We killed Komane.
Speaker 1: If you watch other channels or other programs, you're going
Speaker 1: to see a lot of analysis that says Komane's dead,
Speaker 1: all of this senior leadership got taken out, decapitation achieved.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to get a new wave of people
Speaker 1: with a reset to terrens. Whatever we face with Iran,
Speaker 1: they're not going to have these ballistic missiles. They're not
Speaker 1: going to have this nuclear program. And in the meantime,
Speaker 1: people in the streets are cheering and love America. Now
Speaker 1: I mean that is that is wall to wall anywhere
Speaker 1: else you look, which is which is precisely why I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you, Colonel McGregor, because I do
Speaker 1: think it's important to get to perspectives on that question.
Speaker 1: If this is going to be a status where Iran's
Speaker 1: getting bombed. They're not going to leave power surrender in
Speaker 1: any meaningful way. When do you think China starts to
Speaker 1: kind of flex around this? Because a lot of that
Speaker 1: oil that's going to be backed up in the Persian
Speaker 1: Gulf is going to China. And at the same time,
Speaker 1: China can look at the scenario you just described with
Speaker 1: declining US docpiles, and they might start licking their lips
Speaker 1: and looking at Taiwan. What do you assays says as
Speaker 1: their likely move.
Speaker 11: China draws about fifty percent of its oil from the
Speaker 11: Persian Gulf.
Speaker 8: So does India.
Speaker 11: China has stored up a great deal of oil and
Speaker 11: the expectation of this war, and the Russians are working
Speaker 11: over time, they're doubling down to provide India, China and
Speaker 11: everybody else with oil. In fact, Russia is a huge
Speaker 11: winner right now. Certainly in financial terms, they're making money
Speaker 11: hand over FIST. I see no evidence for the Chinese
Speaker 11: invade Taiwan. I think it's utter nonsense that needs to
Speaker 11: go away. The Chinese are not going to do that.
Speaker 11: They've made that very clear. Unless we put missiles and
Speaker 11: troops on Taiwan that threaten China, there will be no invasion.
Speaker 11: And right now you have the KMT party, which is
Speaker 11: a shang Kai sheex old party.
Speaker 8: They control the parliament. The parliament is pro unification.
Speaker 11: It's the president who is a so called liberal nationalist.
Speaker 11: I don't know what the exact term is, but that's
Speaker 11: the pro pro us, pro Japanese party.
Speaker 1: He take out the Taiwan part. Colonel, But what about
Speaker 1: China's ability to impact outcomes in the straits of horror
Speaker 1: moves with what is now the government of Iran and
Speaker 1: then fifty percent of their oil on the other side
Speaker 1: waiting to get through.
Speaker 11: Well, China and Russia are sitting on the sidelines monitoring everything.
Speaker 11: They're in close touch with the government. They're providing satellite intelligence,
Speaker 11: which accounts for some of the tremendous successes, particularly in Israel.
Speaker 11: And on a US basis, all of our bases have
Speaker 11: been destroyed, our harbor installations are destroyed. We're actually having
Speaker 11: to fall back on India and Indian ports, which are
Speaker 11: less than ideal. That's what the Navy says, and I
Speaker 11: I think Iran, much to our disappointment, is faring very
Speaker 11: very well. The question is how long can we keep
Speaker 11: this up. I think logistics is the vulnerable part of
Speaker 11: this entire operation. Remember, you've got to go back and reload.
Speaker 11: You've got to fly things in, you've got to sail in.
Speaker 11: Iran is a continental power in ninety three million people,
Speaker 11: the size of Western Europe, both China and Russia continental powers.
Speaker 11: They don't have supply chain problems. Their manufacturing capabilities are
Speaker 11: intact right now. The missile cities underlie all of Iran's
Speaker 11: provinces are untouched, and they have an inexhaustible supply of missiles.
Speaker 11: I think this is going to go on for some time.
Speaker 11: And the question is when does Israel step up and
Speaker 11: say they've had enough. We went through that before during
Speaker 11: the Twelve Day War. When do they say this is
Speaker 11: too much much? When do they say, if this doesn't stop,
Speaker 11: we use a nuclear weapon. That's what I would be
Speaker 11: concerned about. And that's where President Trump, who really doesn't
Speaker 11: appear to be in charge, mister Nettaniahu does, has got
Speaker 11: to be prepared to step in and say no, there
Speaker 11: will be no use of nuclear weapons.
Speaker 8: That's what I worry about.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for hunting my nightmares in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: Colonel Douglas McGregor, Thanks as always for coming on and
Speaker 1: sharing your viewpoint.
Speaker 8: Okay, Matt, bye bye.
Speaker 1: And coming up, we've got the Commissioner of Agriculture from Texas,
Speaker 1: Sid Miller, here to react to the fatal shooting in
Speaker 1: Austin and potential terrorist connections. And we'll also speak with
Speaker 1: one of the members of an Iranian resistance group. He's
Speaker 1: got a plan for the future of the country. Will
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Speaker 1: It's an unsettling day in Texas. Tomorrow a massive primary
Speaker 1: election with nationwide consequences. Yesterday, a mass shooting with people
Speaker 1: still reeling and still clinging to life. The shooting occurred
Speaker 1: just before two am in the sixth Street Entertainment district.
Speaker 1: It's a busy area known for bars, nightlife, and crowds
Speaker 1: near ut Austin. Responding officers were already in the area
Speaker 1: and confronted the shooter just amazingly quickly, within just a
Speaker 1: minute of the first nine to one one calls they
Speaker 1: were there. They exchanged fire and fatally shot the perpetrator
Speaker 1: at the scene, preventing further casualties. Three people have died,
Speaker 1: including the suspect. Fourteen others injured. Several of the wounded
Speaker 1: were reported in critical condition at nearby hospitals. Officials have
Speaker 1: identified the gunman fifty three year old Indanga Dengey, a
Speaker 1: naturalized US citizen originally from Senegal who lived in the
Speaker 1: Austin area. D'angay first entered the United States in two thousand,
Speaker 1: became a lawful permit resident after marrying a US citizen,
Speaker 1: and was naturalized in twenty thirteen. Reports indicated he had
Speaker 1: a history of mental health issues and prior arrests that
Speaker 1: weren't related to terrorism or ideology. The FBI sites indicators
Speaker 1: on the suspect and in the vehicle that could suggest
Speaker 1: a terrori's net nexus. Those indicators include the attire and
Speaker 1: items found with the suspect. He was wearing clothing that
Speaker 1: included the words property of Allah and a shirt with
Speaker 1: an Iranian flag design. Investigators reportedly found a Koran and
Speaker 1: images related to Iran at his home and in his vehicle.
Speaker 1: Local and state officials responded very swiftly. The Texas Governor
Speaker 1: directed increased security in Austin and statewide. We now go
Speaker 1: to a Texas statewide elected official for the latest. Joining
Speaker 1: us now is the commissioner of the Texas Department of Agriculture.
Speaker 1: He's been endorsed by President Trump and his upcoming elections tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Sid Miller, thanks for being with us. I know you've
Speaker 1: got a big heart and it's breaking for the folks
Speaker 1: in Austin who suffered from this violence. What can you
Speaker 1: tell us about how Texans are reacting?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, we're all very sad. It's it's things
Speaker 12: like this are happening too often. Uh, you know, most
Speaker 12: of it's tied to radical Islam Sharia law. We're fighting that,
Speaker 12: you know down here in Texas and looks like this
Speaker 12: is another case of that. The guy was uh, you know,
Speaker 12: wearing axcuse it, Uh, you know, our ock bar and
Speaker 12: on his shirt.
Speaker 10: And uh uh it's very tragic.
Speaker 12: We we we've got to you know, we've got to
Speaker 12: do a better job, uh than we're doing.
Speaker 1: Uh. This guy was a citizen through marriage. Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that like a good policy for our country to
Speaker 1: just have people be able to marry their way into
Speaker 1: in a citizenship.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, it's you know, it worked real good
Speaker 12: for a long time, but it's not working so good now,
Speaker 12: is it. We probably need we probably need to rethink
Speaker 12: that and at least have a transition period, you know,
Speaker 12: not an automatic maybe a you know, I don't know,
Speaker 12: maybe a probationary period might be an order.
Speaker 10: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder if events like this give us,
Speaker 1: give us pause and give us questions something so precious
Speaker 1: as an American citizenship. I do want to get to the
Speaker 1: big election that's tomorrow. You're on the ballot. You've been
Speaker 1: a big part of boosting the productivity in Texas that
Speaker 1: goes right alongside the Trump agenda. What do you think
Speaker 1: is going to be the big headline coming out of
Speaker 1: the Lone Star Republic.
Speaker 10: Well, we've got a lot of races, you know.
Speaker 12: They's there's three primaries tomorrow and thys are all on Texas.
Speaker 12: We've got a huge Senate race with John Cornyn is
Speaker 12: matched up against Wesley Hunt and Ken Paxton.
Speaker 10: That's probably the biggest race in the nation right now.
Speaker 12: But we also have a contestant attorney general's race to
Speaker 12: replace Ken Paxton. We've got a controller race, and we've
Speaker 12: got my race, had commissioner race. So all the state
Speaker 12: wides are up with the governor's also owned the ballot,
Speaker 12: the lieutenant governor, So we have a lot of state
Speaker 12: wides in Texas. There's about seven or eight of us
Speaker 12: all up for re election tomorrow because it's and in Texas,
Speaker 12: it's going to be decided in the primary, and that
Speaker 12: that will be you know, we'll we'll we'll know the
Speaker 12: results coming in about seven o'clock tomorrow evening.
Speaker 1: One of the national implications is also on the Democratic side,
Speaker 1: is there any chance we get Jasmine Crockett as the
Speaker 1: head of the Democratic Party in Texas tomorrow if she
Speaker 1: if she prevails.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm a little skeptical about polls, but she is
Speaker 12: leading in the polls that are out there.
Speaker 10: So that's that's going to be interesting.
Speaker 12: Let me tell you, she's she doesn't really fit the
Speaker 12: mold of the of the Texas that is in my
Speaker 12: mind or most people's mind.
Speaker 10: She's not the uh, you know, the room.
Speaker 1: Before I wanted to win the primary. I think that
Speaker 1: would be great because you know, look, it's it's no joke.
Speaker 1: The Democrats have targeted Texas before, uh, and they would
Speaker 1: again if they could get a lot of illegal aliens voting,
Speaker 1: if they could erode uh, your your ballid, integrity and
Speaker 1: good folks there have been making a lot of strides
Speaker 1: yourself included. Now in South Texas, we've seen districts that
Speaker 1: were purple in the House go bright red as a
Speaker 1: result of changes in how a lot of Hispanic voters
Speaker 1: are reacting. Do you think Hispanic voters are going to
Speaker 1: stick with the Republican Party in the upcoming midterm general election?
Speaker 12: You know, I think we'll continue to grow grow our
Speaker 12: presence in South Texas. South Texas is tired of the cartels.
Speaker 12: They're they're tired of, you know, the Biden administration leaving
Speaker 12: the gates open and everybody just walking through and destroying
Speaker 12: their property. Uh, they're they're you know, it's they're tired
Speaker 12: of fitnel deaths, just like the rest of us. That
Speaker 12: they've had it there, they're you know, uh used to
Speaker 12: if you ran for office in South Texas, there was
Speaker 12: only one party to run on. That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 12: It's it's flipping. We've got County Judge Aaron Laredo, uh,
Speaker 12: Democrat county judge for.
Speaker 10: I think, a three term county judge. Flip.
Speaker 12: He's now he's running for Congress, uh on the Republican ticket.
Speaker 12: So it's it's flipping. We're gonna do well.
Speaker 1: Do you expect voters in South Texas will continue to
Speaker 1: have confidence in CONGRESSMN Tony Gonzales.
Speaker 10: I think Tony's probably gone.
Speaker 12: I think this is he was already in a tough RACEH.
Speaker 12: It was uh, you know, sad situation, really really sad situation,
Speaker 12: and a lot of what's what's come out. I think
Speaker 12: I don't. I don't think he's going to bounce back
Speaker 12: from this one.
Speaker 1: Sid Miller always a straight talker and a guy who
Speaker 1: produces results for the good folks in Texas. We're glad
Speaker 1: President Trump is on your team supporting you in this race.
Speaker 1: We have no doubt he'll be successful. Stay safe in
Speaker 1: the final day on the campaign trail.
Speaker 13: You got it.
Speaker 12: We're gonna run all the way to the finish line,
Speaker 12: break the tape and tride at sid Miller.
Speaker 1: Take care. We'll see on the other side. God bless
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Speaker 1: believe they should be running Iran. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: The entire military command is gone as well, and many
Speaker 2: of them want to surrender into saving their lives. They
Speaker 2: want immunity. They're calling by the thousands. I once again
Speaker 2: urged the Revolutionary Guard, the Iranian military police to lay
Speaker 2: down your arms and receive full immunity or face certain death.
Speaker 1: One question the world is asking right now, who was
Speaker 1: in charge of the opposition in Iran? And will the
Speaker 1: opposition actually govern anything? In Venezuela, President Trump taught us
Speaker 1: there's a real distinction between regime change and leadership change. Maduro,
Speaker 1: for example, was extracted, but his regime is still basically
Speaker 1: running Venezuela. Is that what we are trying to do
Speaker 1: in Iran? Some people actually think we can reinstall the
Speaker 1: son of the former Shah of Iran. That's hilarious. The
Speaker 1: Shah was Mohammed Raza Pavlavi. He was the last monarch
Speaker 1: of Iran and ruled from nineteen forty one until his
Speaker 1: overthrow in nineteen seventy nine. Widespread unrest grew in the
Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies due to dissatisfaction with his rule, economic concerns,
Speaker 1: political repression and resentment of Western involvement in Iranian issues,
Speaker 1: risking protests and strikes, and affections within his own military.
Speaker 1: You did see the Shaw suffer an erosion of his authority.
Speaker 1: On January sixteenth, nineteen seventy nine, facing widespread demonstrations total
Speaker 1: loss of control, he fled. He fled Iran that effectively
Speaker 1: ended the monarchy. Many historians described the Shaw's regime as
Speaker 1: marked by significant corruption. Government officials, the royal family and
Speaker 1: close associates benefited disproportionately from Iran's oil wealth. Corruption and
Speaker 1: cronyism eroded public trusts and were among the factors that
Speaker 1: led to the rule of the theocracy, which has continued
Speaker 1: until this day. Ali Safavi is a member of the
Speaker 1: National Council of Resistance to Iran. He and I agreed
Speaker 1: that the return of the Shah's son is not realistic.
Speaker 1: So I've seen some mainstream media outlets in the West
Speaker 1: say that the Shaw son, who has become a cause
Speaker 1: de jour, could return that it seems crazy to me.
Speaker 1: That seems like some sort of neo Khan fever dream.
Speaker 13: And it comes to any game plan for the future
Speaker 13: of Iran. Redzapan Levi and his clique don't even have
Speaker 13: a seat on the bench. This guy hasn't even run
Speaker 13: a seventy eleven.
Speaker 3: Store, How can he run a country?
Speaker 13: And he hasn't done anything to advance the cause of
Speaker 13: democracy in Iran. In fact, he told a podcaster that
Speaker 13: is not even going to go back to Iran. He said,
Speaker 13: I have my family here, I have my friends. Yireza
Speaker 13: Pahla put out his roadmap for the future of Iran.
Speaker 13: It basically put the power of the judiciary, the executive,
Speaker 13: the legislature, the security forces in the hands of one man,
Speaker 13: Reza Pahlavi. So you're talking about the one man rule,
Speaker 13: a neo fascist government, and Iranians will not stand through that,
Speaker 13: and because they want democracy.
Speaker 1: That clip demonstrates how fractured the opposition currently is in Iran.
Speaker 1: That version you just heard from is a member of
Speaker 1: the m e K. The MEK stands for the Mujahadin
Speaker 1: a kulk. The MEK ran arms and fought against the Shaw.
Speaker 1: They then violently broke from company in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighties, The MECH fought alongside Saddam and
Speaker 1: against Iran from nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve. The
Speaker 1: NEK was designated a terrorist organization in the United States
Speaker 1: and the European Union. In twenty twelve, they rebranded as
Speaker 1: a government in exile based mostly in Albania. We explain
Speaker 1: this to you to illuminate that it's not easy to
Speaker 1: just say the opposition is in control. Who is the
Speaker 1: opposition now, the secular light theocrats in Iran, the people
Speaker 1: calling Trump and begging for amnesty who were killing protesters
Speaker 1: a week ago. The son of the former corrupt monarch
Speaker 1: who lives in the United States, or the former terrorist
Speaker 1: group run out of Albania. It's kind of an island
Speaker 1: of misfit toys joining us now. A member of the
Speaker 1: National Council of Resistance of Iran also called the MK
Speaker 1: ALI Safavi Ali. What are you learning about what is
Speaker 1: happening in Iran right now and what you expect the
Speaker 1: path to be forward?
Speaker 13: Well as far as the situation on the ground is concerned,
Speaker 13: we are watching like you are. Continued. It strikes on
Speaker 13: various military and leadership sites, but of course underground them
Speaker 13: K resistance units are very active. We had reports that
Speaker 13: they had themselves taken the lead and had targeted several
Speaker 13: IRGC garrisons, one in Carage, which is twenty five miles
Speaker 13: west of Tehran. That they also went and took over
Speaker 13: what it's called the Headquarters for the Implementation of Romani's degrees,
Speaker 13: which is a location where it's used for suppression of
Speaker 13: the people, and also several other parts of the country.
Speaker 13: The resistance units have been very active and they're also
Speaker 13: of course mobilizing because the standing order for them was
Speaker 13: if and when Harmany dies, then you are free to
Speaker 13: do whatever is needed to mobilize and direct the population
Speaker 13: and go and take over some of the government institutions
Speaker 13: and basically bring people onto the streets.
Speaker 3: Obviously, with the.
Speaker 13: Heavy bombing that is ongoing, naturally they're taking every precaution
Speaker 13: so that no civilian, no civilian is put in harm's way.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How many how many operatives does the n MEK right
Speaker 1: now have working to take control of government assets.
Speaker 13: Well, they have quite a few, just to give you
Speaker 13: an idea. Just last Monday, two hundred and fifty m
Speaker 13: K fighters launched a daring assault on the communist compound,
Speaker 13: which was bombed this past Saturday by the US, and
Speaker 13: at that particular, in that particular assault, they penetrated several
Speaker 13: layers of security. Unfortunately, there were some casualties. Some one
Speaker 13: hundred were killed or were detained, including two professional cameramen
Speaker 13: that had been embedded with that unit. But one hundred
Speaker 13: and fifty managed to withdraw and go to the basis safely.
Speaker 13: So that one particular operation should give you an idea
Speaker 13: not only of the scale of the resistance units, the
Speaker 13: number of resistance units across Iran, but also their capability,
Speaker 13: their operational capability.
Speaker 1: But there's two hundred and fifty people, there's six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people in the Iranian Army.
Speaker 13: You're absolutely right, you're after it, right, But to get
Speaker 13: two hundred and fifty people together to launch an assault
Speaker 13: on the most tightly controlled government center in all of
Speaker 13: Iran goes to show the capabilities of them.
Speaker 3: There are thousands of them all over Iran.
Speaker 13: In fact, we had many pictures and posters of NCRRA
Speaker 13: president like Mariam Rajavi posted on bridges, on overpasses, the
Speaker 13: pictures posted on walls. There were lots of other activities
Speaker 13: that they undertook. So this is nationwide movement.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I understand. If you call this woman the
Speaker 1: president elect, is it your expectation that she's going to
Speaker 1: be in charge of Iran?
Speaker 13: Well, actually, yesterday, after a Commandy died, the NCRI announced
Speaker 13: the formation of a provisional government based upon Missus Rajavi's
Speaker 13: ten point plan.
Speaker 3: And so the road map is like this.
Speaker 13: When the regime is toppled, and of course NCR in
Speaker 13: the station in Iran, there will be an election within
Speaker 13: six months of the regime's overthrow, at which point their
Speaker 13: Innian people can elect a legislative Constituent Assembly which would
Speaker 13: draft the future constitution, and of course that constitution will
Speaker 13: be put to vote, and at which point, of course,
Speaker 13: the Iranian people will have a chance to elect whomever
Speaker 13: they want.
Speaker 1: As I've told yeah, yeah, you're describing a Jeffersonian democracy
Speaker 1: that hasn't typically followed regime change in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: and it's not something that you've really ever had in Iran,
Speaker 1: you know, in the lifetime of anyone that's there now. Now,
Speaker 1: there are a number of people in America who believe
Speaker 1: that the Crown Prince, that's what they call him, sort
Speaker 1: of a silly name. It's the son of the austed Shaw.
Speaker 1: You and I agreed that that was a bit of
Speaker 1: a fever dream. But he's making offers on American television
Speaker 1: right now to the American people. Take a listen, and
Speaker 1: we'll get.
Speaker 3: Your reaction, economic group and what have you.
Speaker 13: Just by a change that we hope to bring to
Speaker 13: the table, that would be probably over a trillion dollars
Speaker 13: worth of impact and revenue to the American economy.
Speaker 1: So he's offering a trillion dollars. Does the MK offer more?
Speaker 13: I think Matt he's trying to buy his way into
Speaker 13: the throne. But that's not going to happen. I think,
Speaker 13: to be honest, the first order of business for the
Speaker 13: new government in Iran, which the Iranian people of course
Speaker 13: will have to elect, is to basically, first of all,
Speaker 13: heal the wounds that this regime has left for Iranians
Speaker 13: in the past forty seven years, bring back hope and trust,
Speaker 13: rebuild a country from ruins.
Speaker 1: Does healing those wounds include amnesty and your vision for
Speaker 1: the country going forward.
Speaker 3: Well, as you know, the NCRI does not believe in
Speaker 3: that thereath penalty.
Speaker 13: Obviously, Tomorrow's Iran, there will be no room for vengeance naturally,
Speaker 13: some of those who were the perpetrators of these atrocities
Speaker 13: will have their day in court with lawyers and international observers.
Speaker 13: But obviously this is not going to be a door
Speaker 13: to door house searches and bringing people out and lynching them,
Speaker 13: not at all. That's very incompatible with Iranian culture and
Speaker 13: missus Rajavi said yesterday that it is time for solidarity
Speaker 13: for unity and all of us must work together to
Speaker 13: return Iran to what it was in the past.
Speaker 1: But you won't work with the other features of the opposition,
Speaker 1: right like you won't work with Pavlavi because you hold
Speaker 1: the view, as do I, that he has no ledgeitimacy
Speaker 1: in the country. So how do you how do you
Speaker 1: work with people that aren't legitimate?
Speaker 3: Excellent question. You know, the NCRI has.
Speaker 13: A solidarity front that it has offered to all Iranian
Speaker 13: opposition group. It has basically three principles, one belief in
Speaker 13: the overthrow of this regime. Two separation of religion and
Speaker 13: the state, and three the belief in a republican form
Speaker 13: of government.
Speaker 3: And to this end, the NCRI has a very excellent
Speaker 3: plan for.
Speaker 1: All thinks your terrorists, your organization was designated a terrorist
Speaker 1: organization until twenty twelve. Razo Pavlavi and his apparatus supports
Speaker 1: those designations. Generally, how do you work with someone who
Speaker 1: thinks that you're a terrorist?
Speaker 13: Well, I think Raisa Palavi to be honest when it
Speaker 13: comes to any game plan for the future of Iran
Speaker 13: doesn't even have a seat on the bench.
Speaker 3: For several reasons.
Speaker 13: One of course, he hasn't distanced himself from the crimes
Speaker 13: of his father too. What has he practically done in
Speaker 13: the past forty seven years to enhance the cause of
Speaker 13: freedom in Iran? We have had one hundred thousand of
Speaker 13: our members and sympathizers. One of them is my own
Speaker 13: brother who were executed by the Iranian regime. Part of it,
Speaker 13: hasn't done anything. Whenever there is something in Iran, he
Speaker 13: jumps into the fray and it's all about soundbites and
Speaker 13: he's already selling out Iran to.
Speaker 3: Foreign countries.
Speaker 13: That's not the way it's going to be. His father
Speaker 13: and his grandfather, that was their practice. It's not going
Speaker 13: to be what we are going to do. For us
Speaker 13: first and foremost, then.
Speaker 1: We understand I I've got to leave it there. Ali SAFAVII,
Speaker 1: a member of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on and sharing your viewpoint. It'll
Speaker 1: be very interesting to speak with you and other members
Speaker 1: of the Iranian opposition in the coming days and weeks.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much man for the opportunity.
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