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Speaker 1: the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege
Speaker 1: of talking to Daryl Adams from the Owl Moon Wilderness.
Speaker 1: You may recognize his name if you've read the book
Speaker 1: The Owl Moon Lab, a Paranormal Experiment by Toab Johnson,
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic read from Hanger One Publishing. Recommend
Speaker 1: it of the links in the show notes. But it's
Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on the show. Finally, how
Speaker 1: are you doing today, Darryl?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's awesome and you are Are you okay with sharing
Speaker 1: where you are currently?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out in Oklahoma, that's right.
Speaker 1: Which I think that's interesting by itself, and we might
Speaker 1: we might get there eventually, but I think I would
Speaker 1: love to start out with just talking about your you know,
Speaker 1: experience at the Owl Moon Wilderness and what you experienced.
Speaker 1: And we already talked about in the pre show that
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be everything because quite frankly, there's
Speaker 1: there's too much, and you can get the whole story
Speaker 1: by reading that book. But what are some some interesting
Speaker 1: memories or experiences you had when you were in that
Speaker 1: area of Oregon. Oh.
Speaker 2: I like Cobb's book The al Moon Lab. He could
Speaker 2: probably two more of those books with all the stuff
Speaker 2: that happened to us there. I actually moved to Oregon
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, and I first moved to Roseberg area,
Speaker 2: which is about, I don't know, forty miles south of
Speaker 2: Cottage Grove area where the al Moon Lab Wilderness area is.
Speaker 2: And then then we moved up there to the al
Speaker 2: Moon Lab after that. But pretty much soon as I
Speaker 2: moved into the house, the al Moon Lab house, I
Speaker 2: started hearing strange sounds. It backs up to a big
Speaker 2: wilderness area BLM Land government land, so it kind of
Speaker 2: backs up to the mountains there, and there's nothing back
Speaker 2: there other than wilderness. So I would hear all kinds
Speaker 2: of weird sounds up there night, and which led me
Speaker 2: to start recording stuff. You know, I put out my
Speaker 2: recorder and so I just a lot of strange things
Speaker 2: were happening. I was having a new shop built at
Speaker 2: that house, and so my brother has been kind of
Speaker 2: into the bigfoot world forever, and I was just kind
Speaker 2: of working and didn't didn't think about it. I've always
Speaker 2: been a hunter and a fisher and an outdoors person,
Speaker 2: so I kind of knew all the animals and everything,
Speaker 2: and this stuff I was hearing up there wasn't anything
Speaker 2: I'd ever heard, you know. I've heard bobcats, a mountain
Speaker 2: lions screaming, and all the weirdest stuff like that in
Speaker 2: the Sierras in California when I hunted as you know,
Speaker 2: growing up as a boy scout and everything. But this
Speaker 2: was like nothing I'd ever heard. Sort of like if
Speaker 2: you mixed a t rex and an African lion and
Speaker 2: they had a child and it was angry, so Anyways,
Speaker 2: my brother had been into bigfoot and stuff, so he
Speaker 2: actually got an invitation from Todd Nice to a thing
Speaker 2: they have every year out there in Oregon called the
Speaker 2: oh shoot.
Speaker 3: Out of him Beachfoot probably.
Speaker 2: Beach the Beachfoot they call it. And so my brother
Speaker 2: wasn't able to go, and me and him were going
Speaker 2: to go together, and so I ended up going and
Speaker 2: I met Ron moorehead there. He his daughter actually lives
Speaker 2: right there in in or around Cottage Grove area. So
Speaker 2: we got to talking by the campfire, me and him
Speaker 2: and Bob Gimlin, and I let him hear some of
Speaker 2: the sounds I recorded, and they were like, oh my gosh, man,
Speaker 2: those are yeah. And I said, I, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: new to the area. I it'd be cool if I,
Speaker 2: you know, met someone around there that could kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, let me know what's going on, what this
Speaker 2: is and what's happening. So Ron's like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 2: got your pretty much neighbors with Tob Johnson. He's right
Speaker 2: there in Springfield, you know, you're within thirty miles of
Speaker 2: him or whatever. So as soon as I got back
Speaker 2: from Beachfoot, I kind of hit Tobe up on the
Speaker 2: Facebook Messenger. I think it was because I didn't know
Speaker 2: him prior to that, and it just happened to be.
Speaker 2: He was doing a thing down at the cottage Grove Lake,
Speaker 2: which was within two miles of the property where they
Speaker 2: got the London trackway where they would have had, you know,
Speaker 2: cast all those prints. So I met him down there
Speaker 2: and we met and you know, just got to talk
Speaker 2: and I let him hear the sounds and stuff, and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, man, that's cool. He was driving
Speaker 2: a truck and he was living in a up by
Speaker 2: Springfield and I had the property. So I just said, hey,
Speaker 2: why don't you just move your little travel trailer down
Speaker 2: there on the property, and you know, maybe we can.
Speaker 2: I'm retired, I got nothing else to do, so we
Speaker 2: can start, you know, just researching this stuff and see
Speaker 2: what's going on. So he moved his trailer over there
Speaker 2: to the property for a couple of months and then
Speaker 2: we just everything just kind of Actually, I think it was,
Speaker 2: oh he was there. He may not even been there yet,
Speaker 2: and I had drawn an elk hunt for the proper
Speaker 2: for the land up behind there, and it was actually
Speaker 2: the last day of the hunting season, so he had
Speaker 2: just gotten off work truck driving. So he jumped in
Speaker 2: my truck and we went up there and we're driving
Speaker 2: because I had seen a bunch of the structures, you know,
Speaker 2: out of the woods that the the Bigfoots do and markers,
Speaker 2: and I was telling him and as we're going up there,
Speaker 2: he's driving up this whole logging road. There's the red
Speaker 2: the red clay on the sides of the roads, you know,
Speaker 2: and he says, hold it. So I pull over in
Speaker 2: the truck and there's these two big impressions in the clay,
Speaker 2: the red clay, and it'd been rainy, so they were
Speaker 2: really fresh. So we ended up getting these knee impressions.
Speaker 2: We stayed out there. We stayed out there till about
Speaker 2: one in the morning, till the the plaster set up,
Speaker 2: and we got these knee impressions. And that's a whole
Speaker 2: another story. But we brought them back to my property,
Speaker 2: the al Moon lab property. We first put him in
Speaker 2: the It had a big garage also, and the shop
Speaker 2: was just kind of being finished up at that time.
Speaker 2: So they sat in the garage for a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks while the red clay dried up on them. You know,
Speaker 2: they were they're big they're good size, and as it,
Speaker 2: you know, it dried up. We didn't want to disturb anything.
Speaker 2: We kind of wanted that clay to dry because it
Speaker 2: was like a cap, you know, like a like a
Speaker 2: mud cap on those impressions. So it eventually dried and
Speaker 2: we by then the shop was ready, so I made
Speaker 2: a little carrier and we put him over there in
Speaker 2: the shop and then you know, we pulled off the
Speaker 2: dried red clay and there was hair. We had collected
Speaker 2: hair up there at the spot too when we first
Speaker 2: got them, and then you know, the whole It's another
Speaker 2: story that Tobe sent the hair to a lady, Cindy
Speaker 2: Doson up in Canada, who's a vet or whatever she does.
Speaker 2: She's a with the Olympic Project, and she's she's kind
Speaker 2: of like a scientist. She you know, she has a
Speaker 2: lab that she does that kind of work. And you know,
Speaker 2: the hairs that we found came back as non human
Speaker 2: human like type hair from a lower extremity. And he's,
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't tell her anything about what these
Speaker 2: hair were from. He just sent them as a can
Speaker 2: you tell me what these are thing? And then you
Speaker 2: know he was doing the thing at at Cottage Grove
Speaker 2: at the time a meetup strange bra thing once a month,
Speaker 2: and so he did her on the zoom meeting there
Speaker 2: on the live thing with all the crowd, and you know,
Speaker 2: she was live reading all of us what she had found.
Speaker 2: And he had not told her anything at all about
Speaker 2: what these weres. She came on to everyone, the whole crowd,
Speaker 2: I think Ron moorehed was there and a bunch of
Speaker 2: people and this is an unknown hair from unknown human,
Speaker 2: no medulla from a lower extremity. We didn't tell her,
Speaker 2: you know, we got them off these knee impressions of
Speaker 2: this gigantic whatever creature it is. But anyways, that was
Speaker 2: kind of cool. And anyway, then the impression has gotten
Speaker 2: this big shop and as you know, this stuff. As
Speaker 2: soon as we brought those knee impressions back to that property,
Speaker 2: everything really amped up. You know. We were already having
Speaker 2: a few things. You know, we were hearing the stuff
Speaker 2: at night and we'd had you know, like two in
Speaker 2: the morning. Someone would come and bang on the back
Speaker 2: of the door which backed up to the property, like
Speaker 2: slap the door real hard. And it was a big,
Speaker 2: old story farmhouse, five bedrooms. It was just me and
Speaker 2: my wife and our little dogs. So you know, I'm
Speaker 2: running downstairs with my glock and my underwear on with
Speaker 2: a big flashlight and never saw anything, you know, and
Speaker 2: there'd be big, greasy handprints everywhere on the doors and
Speaker 2: big and you know, so pretty soon I just Tobe
Speaker 2: was there, and I just kind of started, you know,
Speaker 2: doing these little experiments getting I put out a big
Speaker 2: I put out the recorder, and I got a parabolic
Speaker 2: and pointed in that area so I could really get
Speaker 2: get the sounds better recorded. Tobe downloaded Audacity onto the
Speaker 2: laptops and he would go to work and I'd sit
Speaker 2: there in the morning drinking coffee for about four or
Speaker 2: five hours and go through it all, you know, and
Speaker 2: we had I still have I think twelve hundred hours
Speaker 2: of stuff I haven't even listened to, but you know.
Speaker 3: You have twelve hundred.
Speaker 2: Listen to. Yeah, Because I would I would put this
Speaker 2: thing out every night diligently. I would go out at
Speaker 2: nine or ten, you know, before I went to bed
Speaker 2: and set it all up, and then it six in
Speaker 2: the morning, I'd go get it and then I would
Speaker 2: you know, download it on the computer and then I
Speaker 2: would put it on Audacity and then you know, just
Speaker 2: Tobat is set up where you can see the the
Speaker 2: spectrograph where you could only know that it had to
Speaker 2: be like a sof squatch making that rumble or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I got those sounds that you know they use
Speaker 2: them on Expedition Bigfoot at the beginning of every episode
Speaker 2: you hear the big Bigfoot. Ye A, yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: sound I recorded. And I actually have a bunch more.
Speaker 2: They're not perfectly they're not really cleaned up. Scott not
Speaker 2: Scott Taylor, a guy from the Olympic Project.
Speaker 3: David El David Ellis, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He cleaned them up for us a little bit. But
Speaker 2: I have other ones that are really good along with
Speaker 2: the ones that they use. And then there there was
Speaker 2: actually that about that week when I got all those,
Speaker 2: I still got all that recorded. There's a bunch of
Speaker 2: other yells and screams like that that I have, and
Speaker 2: I actually have a bunch of them talking like the
Speaker 2: Ron moorehead stuff where they sound like like a Native
Speaker 2: American had a child with an Oriental lady and they're
Speaker 2: just out there speaking that Samurai chatter or whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. You can't make it out. I
Speaker 2: got a bunch of that too. I got all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff recorded.
Speaker 3: Your version of the samurai chatter man, I.
Speaker 2: Would say, you know, I'm not sure, but I was
Speaker 2: just going by what Ron Moorehead calls it on his
Speaker 2: you know, the Sierra sounds, that samurai chatter they call it,
Speaker 2: I guess. But to get back to the lab as
Speaker 2: Toad named it. The reason he called it, that was
Speaker 2: the night that we cast those knee impressions. You know
Speaker 2: they have the wolf moon, the harvest moon, it was
Speaker 2: the al moon and it was actually I think it
Speaker 2: was good Friday, you know, right before Easter Sunday. That
Speaker 2: was the day that we cast those and you know,
Speaker 2: we stayed out there till like twelve thirty one in
Speaker 2: the morning until the plaster set we could bring it back.
Speaker 2: It was me and tob and my wife Cindy and anyways,
Speaker 2: so as we got those knee impressions back, and I
Speaker 2: was doing all these little booby trap experiments, and Toad
Speaker 2: was doing experiments with recorders, like setting two or three
Speaker 2: of them up so you can get all the different sounds.
Speaker 2: We were getting, all the different EVPs we were picking
Speaker 2: up in that new shop and in the house and
Speaker 2: the place is just like a hot spot for every
Speaker 2: kind of thing you can imagine. But so we kind
Speaker 2: of were joking one day, said, this is kind of
Speaker 2: like a lab in here. You know, we're doing all
Speaker 2: these little we got a melmeter set up over here,
Speaker 2: and you know, all these things that were going off
Speaker 2: all the time. And so he goes, yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: Almon lab. So that's just kind of how it came about.
Speaker 2: So inside the shop, and Toba has the recordings. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I don't think they're in the book,
Speaker 2: but that shop would come alive at night. I would
Speaker 2: put the recorder in there, he would, and it would
Speaker 2: sound like you get fifty people in there with hammers
Speaker 2: hitting on the inside of this brand new metal shops.
Speaker 1: There's a few of those in the book because I
Speaker 1: remember taking Aback quite a bit by it. It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's wild sounding. And we would, you know,
Speaker 2: hear that and record it, and we would hear voices
Speaker 2: EVPs in there. My little dog Izzy, she's a little
Speaker 2: toy Australian shepherd. She was definitely afraid of that shop.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't go in it unless you kind of forced
Speaker 2: her and then she would stand by the door wanting
Speaker 2: out the whole time. So it was just a strange thing.
Speaker 2: And inside the house itself, it was an old farmhouse
Speaker 2: that was built in it early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: It was just a one bedroom house to begin with.
Speaker 2: And the contractor that we bought it from, he was
Speaker 2: a building contractor. He had really made it into a
Speaker 2: big old farmhouse. He had added on to it, but
Speaker 2: it still had the original bones, you know, the original
Speaker 2: structure under there, so he could get grandfathered in. But anyways,
Speaker 2: in the house, we had been there and I we'd
Speaker 2: hear voices downstairs and stuff. We would have just all
Speaker 2: kinds of different things. Is he's in here squeaking all
Speaker 2: her toys, want me to play, so that's all she
Speaker 2: does all day. But anyways, we're in that me and
Speaker 2: my wife are in bed one night, the whole and
Speaker 2: we're upstairs out in the woods, and the whole our
Speaker 2: whole bedroom just lit up like bright as brighter than daylight,
Speaker 2: like a bag of white. But it wasn't a light
Speaker 2: that blinded your eyes.
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Speaker 2: It's strange, very strange thing lit up for maybe you know,
Speaker 2: it seems longer, but when it happens, it's probably three
Speaker 2: or four seconds. But that was some of the weirdness
Speaker 2: that would happen there lights. But that time it just
Speaker 2: lit up the whole bedroom like brighter than daylight. And
Speaker 2: then it just dark. So we're like wow. But you know,
Speaker 2: we were around there for a couple of years, so
Speaker 2: we got kind of used to weird things happening, you
Speaker 2: know how you get kind of things. You know, you'd
Speaker 2: hear stuff downstairs, balls bouncing down the stairs where the
Speaker 2: big shop was. On one side it was fenced. It
Speaker 2: had a chaining fence around it in the backyard area.
Speaker 2: But one night on the shop side where the fence was,
Speaker 2: animals you know, didn't really get in that area at all,
Speaker 2: you know at night, like I don't know, a raccoon
Speaker 2: or whatever because it was fenced in. But one night
Speaker 2: on that side, the outside the house, on the top
Speaker 2: of up high because it was two stories, there were
Speaker 2: these big motion sensor lights. So if some set off
Speaker 2: the motion sensor, you know, the light would come on
Speaker 2: like a bright light out into that backyard area. So
Speaker 2: one night we had the big Master bedroom upstairs on
Speaker 2: the north side of the house, and on the south
Speaker 2: side there were two other like bedrooms upstairs and then
Speaker 2: two down but that was five but those two bedrooms
Speaker 2: over there in the in the summer Oregon, you don't
Speaker 2: need an air conditioner, hardly up in the woods like that.
Speaker 2: So what we do in the summer, we'd open our window,
Speaker 2: and on those other two bedrooms we'd open a door
Speaker 2: the doors and their windows, and then the air would
Speaker 2: flow through on us to keep you cool at night.
Speaker 2: So one night about two it was always the you know,
Speaker 2: the witching hour or whatever between two and four am.
Speaker 2: Weird things would happen outside. One night, my wife got
Speaker 2: up to go to the bathroom about two thirty and
Speaker 2: the motion sensor light was on on that side where
Speaker 2: the garage was, where it was fenced. So she's like,
Speaker 2: why's that light on? In me I'm thinking, I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's really strange. So I get up to go look
Speaker 2: because I could see down there really good. It's like
Speaker 2: you're setting up in a hunting buyer or something. You know,
Speaker 2: you're up fifteen feet in the air on a two
Speaker 2: story house. You can look straight down into the yard
Speaker 2: and it's it's a good moon at night. So I
Speaker 2: get out of I start walking across the hallway there
Speaker 2: to the other bedroom, so I could see out in
Speaker 2: the backyard really well. And as I was walking, that
Speaker 2: light went out. It timed out. You know, they were
Speaker 2: only on for about five minutes, but I could still
Speaker 2: see out there because of the moonlight. So I'm looking
Speaker 2: down into that backyard and there's a sidewalk around the
Speaker 2: side of the house here, and I see this big
Speaker 2: black thing against the side of the house. And directly
Speaker 2: below that bedroom is one of the downstairs bedrooms that
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story about it in a minute,
Speaker 2: but we call it the Chucky Room because weird things
Speaker 2: happen there. But anyways, I'm looking down and I can
Speaker 2: see good out there because it's pretty much a full mood.
Speaker 2: And here's this big dark thing against the house. And
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh, crap, man, is there a How could
Speaker 2: a bear get through that chain league fence? You know,
Speaker 2: you know they can, but and we'd never seen a
Speaker 2: bear there ever, something What in the heck is that?
Speaker 2: And I just I'm just looking at the sting and
Speaker 2: it's just standing there really steal up right up against
Speaker 2: the house real tight. I can see its whole thing.
Speaker 2: And it's really tall because the bedroom window downstairs is
Speaker 2: about eight foot tall because it had a concrete foundation
Speaker 2: around the house, and it's as tall as the top
Speaker 2: of the window on the downstairs. And I'm looking right
Speaker 2: down at over it, like at its top of its body,
Speaker 2: and it's real wide and tall, like a bear standing up.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it and I whistle like that,
Speaker 2: and this thing takes off and when it does, it
Speaker 2: sounds like a Have you ever been around horses when
Speaker 2: they get up and shake the dust off, like that
Speaker 2: flutter they make. It sounded like that that flutter, and
Speaker 2: boom it took off. I heard it tink the top
Speaker 2: of the chain link fence like it just stepped over
Speaker 2: it and it was gone. But it was just like
Speaker 2: a big commotion, and it was so fast and powerful.
Speaker 2: It was just like I can't even explain the power
Speaker 2: that it was, you know, from something taken off like that,
Speaker 2: like if you had a draft horse or a you know,
Speaker 2: the Budweiser horse, and it just took off of a
Speaker 2: dead run from a dead stop. That's how it was.
Speaker 2: And I was like, holy crap. The next morning, I
Speaker 2: went down and on that window, on the bedroom window downstairs,
Speaker 2: on that bedroom, there was a handprint on the window
Speaker 2: that was huge and what it did. The screen was
Speaker 2: on the bottom part of the window, you know on
Speaker 2: the windows, the top part doesn't have a screen, and
Speaker 2: there was a handprint where I guess when the thing
Speaker 2: took off, it ripped the screen. You could see five
Speaker 2: finger holes in the screen where it ripped. Holes in
Speaker 2: the screen when it took off, when I scared it,
Speaker 2: And on the top glass there was a big face
Speaker 2: impression with snot rockets and Tob I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's in the book or not, but Tobe took samples.
Speaker 2: I went and got him. He was staying there at
Speaker 2: to time, and he took samples with Q tips. We
Speaker 2: did everything kind of you know, with latex gloves and
Speaker 2: alcohol and everything so we could get the DNA. But
Speaker 2: he took samples of those snot rockets that were on
Speaker 2: the window and you could totally see the big face
Speaker 2: impression on that window. And I think we measured it up.
Speaker 2: It was a little It was right at eight and
Speaker 2: a half feet on the window, and what it was
Speaker 2: was that thing that I saw was looking inside that
Speaker 2: bedroom window. But of course we didn't stay in that room,
Speaker 2: you know, that was the two rooms downstairs we didn't
Speaker 2: stay in. It was just me and my wife and
Speaker 2: the one master upstairs. But that was, Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: There was anything in that room then that it would
Speaker 1: be it would have been looking at.
Speaker 2: Not really, it was just you know, we had beds
Speaker 2: in there for in case we had visitors. We just
Speaker 2: had a bed in there. But the story with that
Speaker 2: room is the people that we bought the house for
Speaker 2: had three children and the older boy that was pretty
Speaker 2: much raised there his whole life. About three or six
Speaker 2: months after we'd bought the house and that family had
Speaker 2: moved out, the older boy that was raised in that bedroom,
Speaker 2: he ended up taking his life. So that was that
Speaker 2: was a sad thing. But that room, I call it
Speaker 2: the chucky room because I don't know if you've seen,
Speaker 2: but one morning we wake up and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw it that same day
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I went in that room because we
Speaker 2: would always hear things in that room at night. It
Speaker 2: would sound like people talking or EVPs. So, and this
Speaker 2: was after the kid had passed, So I kept hearing
Speaker 2: people talking in there, so and my dog would growl
Speaker 2: and then run under the bed and hide. But I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to put my recorder in there. So I
Speaker 2: put my recorder in that room. And I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2: I have the recording of it. It's a perfect EVP
Speaker 2: that says I'm dead. I'm dead. It says it about
Speaker 2: three times on the recorder in that kid's room. And
Speaker 2: then I don't know how long it was after that
Speaker 2: that I went in there one morning and there was
Speaker 2: the bed was always disturbed, you know, it had a
Speaker 2: nice twin bed in there, like, the covers were always
Speaker 2: messed up on it, and nobody ever used that room
Speaker 2: unless we had visitors. So I went in there one
Speaker 2: morning to fix the covers again and kind of do
Speaker 2: some dusting around, and on the door inside the bedroom,
Speaker 2: on the wooden door, there's these two creepy chalky handprints
Speaker 2: down low, probably about four feet. So, man, I I
Speaker 2: freaked out. Every time I'd go in that room, my
Speaker 2: hair would get you know, the back of your neck
Speaker 2: would get weird. So I went and got told. I said,
Speaker 2: come and check this out. You're not going to believe it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've seen his thing, but
Speaker 2: he recorded it and he did like a black light
Speaker 2: and it's the white, chalky, kind of weird looking alien
Speaker 2: handprints in that room. Ghostly looking handprints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's weird stuff. As you're telling your account,
Speaker 1: I am really remembering parts of the book and it's
Speaker 1: just it's an incredible read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we me and my wife go to church. So
Speaker 2: one and the house was cool. I mean it was
Speaker 2: built with all hardwood floors and everything. You know, Oregon
Speaker 2: has a lot of wood. So the guy was a contractor,
Speaker 2: so he kind of it was kind of a custom house,
Speaker 2: so it had all hardwood floors. We had a big
Speaker 2: in the living room where the coffee table was. We
Speaker 2: had a big rug, real nice rug in the living room.
Speaker 2: We went to church one day and we came back
Speaker 2: and here's this big rock setting in the middle. I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the doors locked. We have a camera on the
Speaker 2: front door, you know, not a ring. It wasn't a
Speaker 2: ring back then. It was another name. I can't think
Speaker 2: of the name of the camera, but not nothing on
Speaker 2: the camera lock door. Here's a rock on that in
Speaker 2: the middle of the living room, on that rug. It
Speaker 2: was kind of a flat, brownish colored rock. And my
Speaker 2: dog Izzy was upstairs under the bed. Anytime any of
Speaker 2: the weirdness of talking or all that would start going on,
Speaker 2: she'd go up and run and get under our bed.
Speaker 2: You know, she could sense that stuff. Sometimes she would
Speaker 2: just stare at that room, you know, that room that
Speaker 2: I called the chucky room where those handprints were. And
Speaker 2: I got that EVP and about a month before we
Speaker 2: moved out of that house. In that bedroom, it didn't
Speaker 2: have a fan. It had just the two light bulbs
Speaker 2: with the glass globe underneath, you know, like older houses,
Speaker 2: And we're sitting in there one night watching TV and
Speaker 2: when we hear this pop pop like that, it almost
Speaker 2: sounded like gunshots, and that you know, we didn't use
Speaker 2: those bedrooms. I walk into that bedroom to see what
Speaker 2: that sound was, and both the light bulbs in that
Speaker 2: bedroom blew up, and that you know they had the
Speaker 2: lights weren't on. The lights hadn't been on for days.
Speaker 2: We never had any problems with any kind of electrical
Speaker 2: issues in the house or anything. And what was weird
Speaker 2: is underneath the light fixture in that bedroom, all the
Speaker 2: glass was stacked on the floor underneath that the globe
Speaker 2: and none was inside the glass globe. It was the
Speaker 2: strangest thing. You know, how can two light bulbs explode
Speaker 2: and not go in the glass globe that's screwed onto
Speaker 2: the light fixture. That was just another one of the
Speaker 2: weird things there. And then you know the stuff with
Speaker 2: the shop. You know, we had the the sounds and
Speaker 2: all the time, some sounds going on out there, banging,
Speaker 2: all kinds of hitting on the shop. We record sounds.
Speaker 2: I would, you know, record sounds out back every night
Speaker 2: when it wasn't rainy, and you know, getting the bigfoot screaming.
Speaker 2: I would hear. I would hear like loud, like a sight.
Speaker 2: I would call it a siren. It's like these bigfoots
Speaker 2: do this high pitched like screal sound, like they're not screaming,
Speaker 2: but it's like, I don't know how they do it,
Speaker 2: like a real high pitched whine and whatever does. It
Speaker 2: has a lung capacity that can go for like three minutes.
Speaker 2: And I haven't recorded it's a real I call it
Speaker 2: a siren, but it's a real high pitch sound they do.
Speaker 2: And we're the album. Lab House is located. It's in
Speaker 2: between it's in a valley in between two mountain ranges there,
Speaker 2: but they're only probably five miles apart the valley across
Speaker 2: the whole thing, maybe not even that far. You can
Speaker 2: see them. So you would hear sasquatch on the cascade
Speaker 2: side there yelling at night or whooping and screaming. And
Speaker 2: then behind our property there the All Moon Wilderness I
Speaker 2: call it, you would hear them answering back. So they
Speaker 2: would they would kind of go back and forth across
Speaker 2: that valley, yelling at each other, like don't come over
Speaker 2: here or whatever. I don't know. We just got so
Speaker 2: used to them yelling and screaming up there. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't record a lot of it at first,
Speaker 2: especially I didn't have a recorder. I didn't have anything.
Speaker 2: So we would hear all kinds of screams and talks
Speaker 2: and yells and wah, you know, big yeah. Sounds like
Speaker 2: you would hear stuff up there that sound like women screaming.
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard i' mountain lions, you know, when
Speaker 2: they're in heat or whatever, they scream like that, but
Speaker 2: not like this. They don't have this kind of power.
Speaker 2: Whatever does this has, you can almost fill it in
Speaker 2: your chest. Sometimes when they would yell and scream. It
Speaker 2: like goes through the air. I can't explain how it
Speaker 2: travels through the air like that, like a percussion wave maybe.
Speaker 2: And in that valley there we would also hear sonar,
Speaker 2: like sonar pings, you know, like from the old submarines
Speaker 2: like plane. One day, my wife came home from work
Speaker 2: and she's getting out of her jeep to come in
Speaker 2: the house and she heard a bunch of that sonar
Speaker 2: coming through the valley and you could kind of fill.
Speaker 1: It bigs a society who will be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages.
Speaker 2: Also, it was kind of in the air and it
Speaker 2: would go by you. You know, you could hear the
Speaker 2: sound go by you like a like it's going away,
Speaker 2: coming and going. But it was like a sonar pinging.
Speaker 2: So I come out and she's telling me, I just
Speaker 2: heard this sonar thing again. I'm standing there and here
Speaker 2: it comes like m It's almost like it was a
Speaker 2: pressure going by. It's hard to explain it, but we
Speaker 2: had that stuff going on EVPs a lot in the
Speaker 2: shop and the house. The bigfoot yelling, screaming. Henry Franzoni
Speaker 2: came down once the guy that had just the guy
Speaker 2: that just passed. Yeah, and we were having a thing.
Speaker 2: A bunch of people would come, you know, and weird
Speaker 2: things would happen to him, or they'd get gifted things.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of gifts there too, Like stuff
Speaker 2: would just randomly show up with you know, the green
Speaker 2: patinea on it, you know, the mossy stuff. Like when
Speaker 2: we first did the knee impressions. Here's this lock shop
Speaker 2: with two big bay doors for RVs, completely locked, brand
Speaker 2: new electric doors come out one morning. Here's this little
Speaker 2: green philosopher aptor toy Kid's dinosaurs setting on the It
Speaker 2: was either on the counter or right on the knee
Speaker 2: impressions where Toab had been working extracting the hair and stuff.
Speaker 2: And it had you know, like that green patina, like
Speaker 2: it had been set out in the woods, right and you know,
Speaker 2: where do the where does this stuff come from? You're
Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere in the woods. We
Speaker 2: get that. And anyways, Henry Frienzoni, he came over. We
Speaker 2: were sitting in the shop talking. You know, I think
Speaker 2: I made him some coffee and Tob was there. One
Speaker 2: of the neighbors, guy named Wren was there and him
Speaker 2: and he was a musician. He used to be a
Speaker 2: Wren used to be a professional musician. So him and
Speaker 2: Henry kind of we're talking about music because Henry was
Speaker 2: a drum I guess yeah. And we were just all
Speaker 2: in there talking for a few hours, and Henry was
Speaker 2: saying because we had heard some sounds in there when
Speaker 2: he was there, like the booms and the beings on
Speaker 2: the shop, and some you know, low moaning, you know
Speaker 2: from up in the woods from the bigfoots. But Henry,
Speaker 2: he's looking around and he's telling us that that shop
Speaker 2: was kind of like a Tesla coil for all this
Speaker 2: weirdness because right behind the oul Moon property is the
Speaker 2: main power lines that go through the whole state of Oregon. Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean they're two big. I mean within a thousand
Speaker 2: feet of that shop or less. And then along the
Speaker 2: back side of that shop, within thirty feet is an
Speaker 2: ice cold spring that comes out of the mountain and
Speaker 2: runs right behind that shop. It bubbles out of the
Speaker 2: ground right there on the hill. And then you know
Speaker 2: the ground around there, you couldn't dig, you couldn't dig
Speaker 2: hardy anywhere without hitting quarts, quartz rock or agate or jasper. Wow,
Speaker 2: it's in the ground everywhere there. Yeah, so Henry, he
Speaker 2: said that. He said that that combination of those things
Speaker 2: at ice cold water with that, you know, all that electricity,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's always misty, rainy, and it comes
Speaker 2: to the air hits that ice cold spring water which
Speaker 2: comes right by that big metal shop with all the
Speaker 2: quartz crystals in the ground, it kind of creates a
Speaker 2: tuning fork for that stuff, he said. And then that
Speaker 2: shop had these big coils, you know, where the doors
Speaker 2: opened and closed, you know, for the springs, and he
Speaker 2: said that kind of stuff, you know, it's just like
Speaker 2: a big coil. And it was kind of funny because
Speaker 2: after he left, maybe a week or so later, Tob
Speaker 2: had his recorder in there. I did, and we recorded
Speaker 2: some drumming on the outside of the shop, like pa
Speaker 2: boom poo, boom boom, and it was to a beat.
Speaker 2: Tob knows what it is. I don't know, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was a beat to a drum beat. And that
Speaker 2: was another thing we would talk about stuff, me and
Speaker 2: Tob just jokingly in the mornings while we were going
Speaker 2: through the sounds with audacity and talking, and Tobe was
Speaker 2: actually building Biggie, you know, that bigfoot statue that he
Speaker 2: built exactly the Ron Mohet thing in the shop. So
Speaker 2: we're just sitting there and talked for an hour or
Speaker 2: two in the mornings, and I'd go through the what
Speaker 2: I recorded the night and he recorded. You know, we
Speaker 2: we heard that drum beating. It was like, WHOA, that
Speaker 2: is strange. And then Tobe said, yeah, Henry used to
Speaker 2: be a drummer or is a drummer, and that's like
Speaker 2: some kind of beat. Tob knows the rhythm of it.
Speaker 2: But we thought it was really strange that, you know,
Speaker 2: they were talking about drumming him and ran about musical
Speaker 2: instruments and all that. And then within a week or two,
Speaker 2: this thing's bigfoot or whatever does it was out here drumming.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of fifty five gallon drums flipped
Speaker 2: over there. I used for burn barrels, you know, and
Speaker 2: then in the winter when it's wet, I turned them
Speaker 2: over because so they wouldn't rust out with water. But
Speaker 2: something was outside the shop drumming on those things. And
Speaker 2: you could also hear the hear the actual sasquatch growling
Speaker 2: and moaning. Tobe has all of it recorded, But it
Speaker 2: was strange that a lot of times things that we
Speaker 2: would discuss in the shop in the mornings. Things would
Speaker 2: show up as gifts pertaining to what we had discussed.
Speaker 2: Like I think it was in what was that twenty
Speaker 2: one or eighteen, whatever year it was there the White
Speaker 2: Socks hadn't won the World Series for a long time.
Speaker 2: I think it was. So we're not really sports fans
Speaker 2: me or toe, but we're just talking. Hey man, that
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. Those guys came back and you know,
Speaker 2: at least got in the World Series or whatever. We're
Speaker 2: talking baseball for a minute. The next morning, behind Tob's jeep,
Speaker 2: embedded in this hard pinned gra I mean there was
Speaker 2: a gravel driveway all in front of the shop rock
Speaker 2: was this old baseball and it looked like somehow it
Speaker 2: just popped into the ground. Half of it was embedded
Speaker 2: into the ground, into this soil that you couldn't even
Speaker 2: put a din in with a with a pick and
Speaker 2: a Tobe found it, I think behind us jeep, and
Speaker 2: it had patina all over it. And that's just some
Speaker 2: of the weird things there. We talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: hunting seasons going to be coming up, bow hunters or whatever.
Speaker 2: A few days later, here's an old arrow laying behind
Speaker 2: Tobe's jeep. That was no feathers left on it or anything.
Speaker 2: It was old like, had patina all over it. Just
Speaker 2: things that we would talk about would just you know,
Speaker 2: show up out in the middle of nowhere, all kinds
Speaker 2: of little all kinds of rocks, like on a deck.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times things would show up in
Speaker 2: the number three for some reason. There'd be three rocks
Speaker 2: laying on the deck in the morning, three rocks in
Speaker 2: the back of my pickup truck bed one morning. I
Speaker 2: had two trucks. I had one nicer truck and then
Speaker 2: one beater truck that we took out in the woods
Speaker 2: all the time. It was a little truck, but in
Speaker 2: the bigger truck I would haul trash because living out
Speaker 2: in the country, you got to haul your trash to
Speaker 2: the to the landfill down the street. So I had
Speaker 2: this net, like a web, you know, so the trash
Speaker 2: didn't fly out. Looked kind of like a spider web,
Speaker 2: big web I'd put on. So I had hauled trash
Speaker 2: day or two before that, and I had the web
Speaker 2: was still laying in the back of my truck. Came
Speaker 2: out one morning and it was a little dewy in
Speaker 2: the morning. There it was getting you know, fall weather,
Speaker 2: and the web was laying behind my truck and the
Speaker 2: gravel and I'm looking, I'm like, that is weird. How'd
Speaker 2: that get out of the truck bed? You know, it's
Speaker 2: a four wheel drive truck. It's not a little short
Speaker 2: new truck. It's new four wheel drive. And I noticed
Speaker 2: that the little plastic clips that you hooked it into
Speaker 2: the bed with, two of them were broken off. And
Speaker 2: I got to looking and tob was there and there
Speaker 2: was these three or four big giant finger swipes on
Speaker 2: the opposite side of the bed. We could see him
Speaker 2: real good in the moisture on the truck bed. And
Speaker 2: so whatever did this grabbed that web and ripped it
Speaker 2: out of the truck where it was hooked on, and
Speaker 2: threw it back on the gravel and broke two of
Speaker 2: the plastic things. But when it looks like it stood
Speaker 2: on the passenger side and reached all the way over
Speaker 2: to the other side and finger swiped the top of
Speaker 2: the bed and then reached down inside and ripped that
Speaker 2: web out and threw it out in the gravel. Like
Speaker 2: it was angry that there was something in the back
Speaker 2: of my truck. And Tob actually he put some powder
Speaker 2: on those fingerprints, I think, and cast and got the
Speaker 2: dermal ridges and everything, and they're about two inches. Why
Speaker 2: they're huge. But whatever this thing was had to be
Speaker 2: tall enough to sort of reach over the cab of
Speaker 2: the truck, you know, that corner portion of the truck,
Speaker 2: and put those fingerswipes on the bed and grab that
Speaker 2: thing and rip it out of there. Yeah, So that
Speaker 2: was just another thing that happened there. Tob had a
Speaker 2: little aluminum boat that me and him and his son
Speaker 2: would go trout fishing in down at the lakes. We
Speaker 2: lived by the lake, and then there was another lake
Speaker 2: called Dorena that we would go fishing in and it
Speaker 2: was back but it was he had it back then
Speaker 2: beside the shop where a lot of the weird stuff happened,
Speaker 2: kind of on that side where those drums were, those
Speaker 2: of fifty five gallon metal drums. But we'd me and
Speaker 2: Tobe was hauling cabinets from Eugene, Oregon to Bend, Organ
Speaker 2: over the mountain there and we would text back and
Speaker 2: forth in the mornings, you know stuff. I would find
Speaker 2: her here. I would text him and say, wow, look
Speaker 2: at this. Did you leave this here? Did you leave
Speaker 2: that there? We were finding stuff all the time or
Speaker 2: getting saund We were communicating back and forth on the phone,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, both our phones just went
Speaker 2: completely dead.
Speaker 3: Whoa.
Speaker 2: And actually I lost two phones there that just they
Speaker 2: went out. They were Verizon phones. And I went to Horizon,
Speaker 2: and the lady that worked at the store there in
Speaker 2: Cottage Growth couldn't believe it because everything was gone off
Speaker 2: the phone. A friend of mine says, that's government erased
Speaker 2: your phone because all the stuff you had on it.
Speaker 1: But oh, so hold on, so you're saying it stopped working,
Speaker 1: but then also there was no data on the phone,
Speaker 1: so it was like almost a remote erase. And then
Speaker 1: like a just wiped out.
Speaker 2: Completely wise, completely wiped off. You know how you can
Speaker 2: when you get a new phone, they can kind of
Speaker 2: take this stuff off your old phone. Yep, nothing on
Speaker 2: one of them. Nothing just gone. And Tob was having
Speaker 2: problems with his phone. He said, I might have to
Speaker 2: stop and you know, get me a new phone on
Speaker 2: the way back, because this one's having all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2: So I think it was two days later, maybe the
Speaker 2: next morning. He's looking at his boat because I think
Speaker 2: we're going to go fishing, and they stocked the lake
Speaker 2: with trout and me and him and his son were
Speaker 2: going to go fishing. And he's looking and he's getting
Speaker 2: everything ready, and underneath the paddle on his boat is
Speaker 2: a phone. And it's an old I had never even
Speaker 2: seen a phone like this toab knew about him. It's
Speaker 2: a flip. It's a phone that slides.
Speaker 3: Up, oh yeah, yeah, slides over.
Speaker 2: And it was covered and Patina looked like somebody lost
Speaker 2: it in the woods, like twenty years earlier. But we'd
Speaker 2: just been talking both about having to get new phones.
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean by we would talk about
Speaker 2: stuff and then something reminiscent of what we were talking
Speaker 2: about would show up, like a baseball or an arrow
Speaker 2: or a phone. We were talking once about Toby's son.
Speaker 2: He likes Christmas, so he likes to decorate, you know,
Speaker 2: Christmas time, and Tob was telling me that his son's
Speaker 2: got some old Christmas decorations and he likes to put
Speaker 2: them up, you know, a few weeks before Christmas, so
Speaker 2: now more than a day or two after that. In
Speaker 2: Tube's boat, here's this antique Christmas bulb that you hang
Speaker 2: on a Christmas tree. I mean, the thing looks like
Speaker 2: it's from the fifties and is just laying in his boat,
Speaker 2: and it's really fragile. I mean, you know those things
Speaker 2: are glass, and and how did this just show up
Speaker 2: inside his boat after we're talking.
Speaker 1: About it, you know, thinking back to what you said,
Speaker 1: Henry said about being a sort of Tesla coil and
Speaker 1: those different factors that played into it, I almost wonder
Speaker 1: if that environment could be replicated.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, get a PBC tube and fill it
Speaker 2: up with quartz crystal and run some ice cold water
Speaker 2: through it with a electrical charge above it.
Speaker 1: Maybe, well, I'm saying, even find a property that had
Speaker 1: this has the same amount of court shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also buy a huge power line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a similar property to that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that that place kind of is
Speaker 4: the perfect storm, you know for that. It's just it's
Speaker 4: just super strange the stuff that happened. And then, you know,
Speaker 4: during the pandemic, my wife is a counselor mental health.
Speaker 2: Therapist specialists, so her work, she couldn't go into work
Speaker 2: during the COVID So we had to end up selling
Speaker 2: the house because she had to do everything remotely from home.
Speaker 2: You know, with all the clients and everything, right, So
Speaker 2: we ended up selling the house. She is staying with
Speaker 2: our daughter, and then we ended up getting another house
Speaker 2: with a big office where she could for over a
Speaker 2: year she had to basically have a private practice in
Speaker 2: our house and out where the al Moon is, there's
Speaker 2: no the internet is sketchy at best, okay, so you know,
Speaker 2: we had no good connection there. So she she was
Speaker 2: tired of stand with our daughter and having to work
Speaker 2: from there, and we so we just said, well, that's
Speaker 2: just you know, so we just basically moved into the
Speaker 2: town area Cottage Grove. We actually moved to Creswell first.
Speaker 3: So that's what made you move.
Speaker 2: That's why I made us move. It had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with the stuff that was going on there, crazy
Speaker 2: stuff which yeah, yeah, I could go on for a
Speaker 2: week about everything that happened there. But anyways, after that,
Speaker 2: I after we sold the house, I was I knew
Speaker 2: where all those sounds were coming from up above the house,
Speaker 2: So I drove back in there. I found this old
Speaker 2: logging road that kind of goes back in there right
Speaker 2: to that area right above the property. And I'm walking
Speaker 2: down through there and I start finding signs of sasquatch,
Speaker 2: you know, like those structures and the I call them leaners.
Speaker 2: They lean like the lean branches up against trees. There'll
Speaker 2: be four or five branches leaned up against a tree.
Speaker 2: You know, a person can do that, but it's not
Speaker 2: natural out in the middle of nowhere where people don't
Speaker 2: go or anything, to find a tree with a bunch
Speaker 2: of branches leaned up against it, exactly. And then I'd
Speaker 2: found footprints and stuff and weaves. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of vine maple there, and they'll take that vine
Speaker 2: maple and weave it like a weaver.
Speaker 1: Big for society who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: It's really cool, you know, like you've seen birds weave
Speaker 2: their nests. They'll take that vine maple and the bigfoot's
Speaker 2: do and weave it. It's cool how they do it too.
Speaker 2: I don't even think a human can do it, especially
Speaker 2: up eight feet up off the ground and all that.
Speaker 1: I think I have a video that you sent of
Speaker 1: something similar. I can say that right now.
Speaker 2: But that's just one. We found a bunch of them,
Speaker 2: and we found a real big one. Mark Parker, my
Speaker 2: friend that saw the sasquatch there, he took it it
Speaker 2: was a real big one. It looked like a DreamCatcher,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Native Americans make the big dreamcatchers.
Speaker 2: It was weave like that. It was all intertwined and
Speaker 2: it was really cool. I don't know if he still
Speaker 2: has it or not. But and then there's still a
Speaker 2: bunch of those weavings up there around there. So I
Speaker 2: saw that stuff, and I thought, man, this is going
Speaker 2: to be where I put my habituation area. It's right
Speaker 2: up above the property and all the stuff's right here.
Speaker 2: So I started to go. I started going to Walmart
Speaker 2: getting peanut butter and cookies and just latex gloves on,
Speaker 2: and I started just putting peanut butter on tree. You know.
Speaker 2: I'd come back and actually, for about the first month
Speaker 2: or two, nothing happened. Nothing I put peanut butter, I'd
Speaker 2: put cooks. I mean, there's not many animals up there.
Speaker 2: There's not raccoons and stuff. There's a few possums here
Speaker 2: and there, but it's not a real active animal area.
Speaker 2: You know. There's a few deer that go in and
Speaker 2: through there. So nothing happened for a couple months, and
Speaker 2: I thought, dang, I don't know, And then I'd come
Speaker 2: back one time. I would go up there about two
Speaker 2: three times a week. Then i'd come back one time
Speaker 2: and everything's gone. It looks like I'd never even been there,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh boy, here we go. So I
Speaker 2: started doing these little booby trap things. I'd put the
Speaker 2: peanut butter at, I'd put my game camera ou. I
Speaker 2: would put boiled eggs. I'd go to Walmart get the
Speaker 2: three flats of eggs that you buy together, and i'd
Speaker 2: put half boiled, half raw. I would do the Easter
Speaker 2: egg hunt. I'd put them in between bark of old
Speaker 2: dead tree stumps. I'd put them everywhere. I'd come back
Speaker 2: three days later and you could not even find an
Speaker 2: egg shell out of what seventy five eggs or whatever
Speaker 2: it is, three dozen whatever ever how many eggs there is.
Speaker 2: But I thought that was really strange. You know, if
Speaker 2: animal a bear or whatever. I know bears will eat
Speaker 2: eggs or whatever. But I would stick them down behind
Speaker 2: this bark and hide them, you know, like you're hiding
Speaker 2: an Easter egg from an adult, so they can't find them,
Speaker 2: and they're gone, and the bark's not torn away like
Speaker 2: a bear tore it away, get into it or nothing.
Speaker 2: The bark's still right there. I would take photos of everything, videos,
Speaker 2: and right where I put the eggs, the bark hasn't
Speaker 2: been touched, but the egg is gone, not a shell,
Speaker 2: not anything. I think if a bear or some kind
Speaker 2: of animal tore up, you know, four or five dozen eggs,
Speaker 2: they would least leave some shells or some kind of
Speaker 2: you know, something showing. So I went to the I
Speaker 2: went to the feed store, I think it was or
Speaker 2: tractor supplier, one of them. And I got these big
Speaker 2: rat traps, you know, they're sticky, like you use them
Speaker 2: in a shop. Where mouse or rat runs over, they
Speaker 2: get stuck on them. And I got some big sixteen
Speaker 2: penny nails, and I got my stool and I nailed
Speaker 2: these rat traps up on the up, high on a
Speaker 2: pine tree, as high as I could reach, probably eight
Speaker 2: and a half feet. I put peanut butter behind him.
Speaker 2: I was trying to get some hair. I put peanut
Speaker 2: butter behind him and coodnies and smash them up against her.
Speaker 2: I come back, here's a tuft of red hair in
Speaker 2: one of them, you know, because when it touched it
Speaker 2: to get the thing reddish brown hair. And then what
Speaker 2: they ended up doing was tub. Couldn't believe it. They
Speaker 2: took their fingers and pulled the nails out of the tree.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are sixteen penny nails. They are like
Speaker 2: three and a half inches long, hammered in this tree.
Speaker 2: They'd pull it out of the tree and then discard
Speaker 2: the rat trap down into the woods like a frisbee.
Speaker 2: I'd find them down out of the way.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that nuts.
Speaker 2: So a couple of years ago, you know, I went back,
Speaker 2: I'd moved, and then I'd went back out there and
Speaker 2: started doing it again. And one day me and my
Speaker 2: grandson went down in there to get the to get
Speaker 2: the card out of the game camp. And he's a
Speaker 2: young boy, he's twenty twenty one. He takes off down
Speaker 2: the hill real quick, and it's muddy and kind of
Speaker 2: slick going off the hill there. So I'm old and
Speaker 2: kind of going slow, hanging on to stuff. So he
Speaker 2: goes down in there and to the right of whore
Speaker 2: we had the game cam and I put peanut butter
Speaker 2: and stuff. There's a little gully, a little ditch thing
Speaker 2: coming up through there, a little crevice, and I see
Speaker 2: something dark. So I got every time I went out there,
Speaker 2: I would get my phone ready because I knew either
Speaker 2: I would record a weird sound or something weird would happen.
Speaker 2: So I see this black figure start walking up that
Speaker 2: little gully away from that camera as my grandson went
Speaker 2: down to the left of it, so it's taken off,
Speaker 2: walking super fast with its head down. I saw it
Speaker 2: in between the trees. So I'm just snapping pictures, and
Speaker 2: that's where I got those those two pictures of that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, bigfoot walking away. Let me see it
Speaker 2: kind of you know, it kind of had its head
Speaker 2: down a little bit, and it was walking super fast,
Speaker 2: and it looked like it was kind of a reddish
Speaker 2: brown hair, but it didn't. It wasn't real hairy. It
Speaker 2: almost looked like, you know, a dog with the mange.
Speaker 2: You know, have you ever seen a dog that's got
Speaker 2: missing hair on it, like it's got something wrong with it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it kind of looked like that. It wasn't real. There's
Speaker 2: a yeah, the mirror with the fingerswipe.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the partic. Okay, they're right here, right.
Speaker 2: There there, it is, Okay, see that little kind of
Speaker 2: a gully that it's in there. Yeah, it's hard to tell.
Speaker 2: But I was kind of standing up a peel of
Speaker 2: it on the side there, and it's kind of walking
Speaker 2: up that little gully. The tree with a peanut butter
Speaker 2: and the camera and stuff is probably a few hundred
Speaker 2: yards to the left of that, down in the gully,
Speaker 2: more down in the bottom more.
Speaker 1: And you're talking about the gray figure in the dead
Speaker 1: center of the phone. Yeah, it's the most clear I've
Speaker 1: seen one of these photos to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was walking away real fast, and that I
Speaker 2: finally braced myself against a tree and I started. I
Speaker 2: snapped about twenty pictures real quick, and I got that one,
Speaker 2: and then the next one when it's going behind the tree,
Speaker 2: that one, and then it was gone. It went on
Speaker 2: up the hill there and and then you know there's footprints.
Speaker 2: We always had footprints from them down in there.
Speaker 3: Did you try to figure out Yeah, me all it may.
Speaker 2: Be me and Tobe and his son went out there
Speaker 2: and he has the measurements. Yeah, but if you can
Speaker 2: see above its head on the tree, there's like a
Speaker 2: branch or something sticking out. Well, that branch I think
Speaker 2: is nine foot seven inches from the base of the tree.
Speaker 2: It's blm land oh wow, or government anyway, we put
Speaker 2: Toad's son there. He's about six foot one or something,
Speaker 2: and he his head almost is just above the waist
Speaker 2: of that thing that you see there.
Speaker 3: That's incredible, and it.
Speaker 2: Almost looked like maybe the top of his head was balding.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 2: And you can kind of see the muscles on the
Speaker 2: back with its leg. You can see it better on
Speaker 2: my on my phone and on the computer when you
Speaker 2: blow it up. But it was walking super fast, and
Speaker 2: you know, then we just heard some branches breaking up
Speaker 2: up on the side of the hill because I yelled
Speaker 2: at my grandson get up here, you know, because I
Speaker 2: didn't know if there was more of them down there
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah. Also, that area where that thing was,
Speaker 2: that's where I got the other picture of that alien
Speaker 2: thing walking. I saw it take a couple steps and
Speaker 2: I ran out of there. That thing scared me. Boy,
Speaker 2: it was a tall, thin thing. You showed a picture
Speaker 2: of it. It was all looked to be super tall
Speaker 2: from a distance, and it was also walking, and I
Speaker 2: saw its hand move and its head kind of turned
Speaker 2: looking towards where I was. So I got out of there,
Speaker 2: and it looked like it had some bright light coming
Speaker 2: out of its left hand right there.
Speaker 1: You go there, that was one really Oh I wonder
Speaker 1: what that was when you sent it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little hard to see there, but you
Speaker 2: can kind of see its legs open there and its
Speaker 2: right arm and then out of its left hand it
Speaker 2: had like this bright beam of light. And this is
Speaker 2: in the daytime. This is in the morning. And it
Speaker 2: looked like it was in a total silver suit. It
Speaker 2: was really thin, and it looked like it had some
Speaker 2: helmet on. It was shaped like a diamond shape, you
Speaker 2: almost like the hat the Pope wears. Yeah, it kind
Speaker 2: of looked like that, like the Pope's hat, like it
Speaker 2: was a diamond shape.
Speaker 1: And it was definitely walking on the ground, not floating.
Speaker 2: It looked it appeared to be where that's at. It's
Speaker 2: kind of coming down a hill into that little gully
Speaker 2: where that bigfoot walked away at. I think those are
Speaker 2: the same exact trees right there that I got the
Speaker 2: picture of the bigfoot walking through. Can you see down
Speaker 2: below it? Yeah, Yeah, it's like in the same exact line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, man.
Speaker 2: And I saw its right arm move and it caught
Speaker 2: my attention, and then it kind of like turned its
Speaker 2: head towards me. You can see it kind of. I
Speaker 2: took about four or five pictures and that was kind
Speaker 2: of like the only one I got that was okay,
Speaker 2: and I got out of there. It was scary. What
Speaker 2: the heck?
Speaker 1: All this stuff is so tightly woven together, is what
Speaker 1: I'm finding out. So when was the last time you
Speaker 1: were in this Owl Moon Wilderness area.
Speaker 2: It's been a couple of years ago now, but I'm
Speaker 2: going back at.
Speaker 1: The end of this month, are you really Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be there for a week or so by
Speaker 1: yourself or.
Speaker 2: I got other people that want to count, because all right,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like I'm the og of the out
Speaker 2: wilderness when I show up where this happens. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was going to not directly come out and ask it,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of curious if if, since you're
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, maybe you'd be kind of showing local researchers
Speaker 1: the area and kind of passing it on, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like this might be something.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I guess there's some people around there. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I lived there for a long time and I know
Speaker 2: that whole area, like the back of my hand. I
Speaker 2: know other places around there that weird stuff like upside
Speaker 2: down trees. There's an elk wall where I got a
Speaker 2: bunch of bigfoot tracks all within like a five mile
Speaker 2: radius of that.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And you know the BFROS has sighting reports Class A
Speaker 2: sidings right there in that exact area.
Speaker 3: Also, Oh do they really for years?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For years?
Speaker 3: What what count would that be? Again?
Speaker 2: That right there is Lane Lane County and it borders
Speaker 2: what's the other Douglas.
Speaker 3: Dougl same as Oakridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Douglas, Douglas and Lane. They're kind of right there.
Speaker 2: They butt together right in that area.
Speaker 1: Well, this is it's Darryl. It's such a fascinating story.
Speaker 1: And the coolest part that I wasn't realizing is that
Speaker 1: it could be a continuing story out of nowhere. I
Speaker 1: thought this. I thought that this story was just a
Speaker 1: dead end after you had moved out to Oklahoma. But no,
Speaker 1: it could start. It could start happening, or you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes.
Speaker 2: But also the UFO stuff there, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know about that Toe tell you about
Speaker 2: the UFO that would show up in the backyard and
Speaker 2: the neighbor called it the chandelier.
Speaker 3: Oh man.
Speaker 2: It would show up above those power lines and hover
Speaker 2: there with making no sound for an hour at a
Speaker 2: time or less, and it would surge. It would like
Speaker 2: a power surge. I don't know if it was drawing
Speaker 2: power off those power lines. I never saw anything coming
Speaker 2: up off the power lines. But it would set there
Speaker 2: in the air and it would look like a I
Speaker 2: called it like a jellyfish, because I don't know, if
Speaker 2: you've ever been to Monterey, California, at the at the
Speaker 2: whatever the aquarium, Monterey Aquarium, they have jellyfish that go
Speaker 2: in the dark and they're real pretty lights. But that's
Speaker 2: what this thing would do. It would hover in the
Speaker 2: air and it would put out all these real pretty
Speaker 2: lights from underneath it, and it was like a ball
Speaker 2: of plasma or somebody would surge in and out like
Speaker 2: like it was given off power and suck up power. Wow.
Speaker 2: But the neighbor he had seen this thing for years,
Speaker 2: he'd lived there since the nineties, and called, yeah, he'd
Speaker 2: called it the chandelier because you know how pretty a
Speaker 2: chandelier is with all the the glass and everything pretty colors.
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. In the sky. It makes
Speaker 2: no sound, and I actually have a video I took
Speaker 2: of it. I would see it when I took my
Speaker 2: dog out to go to the bathroom before we went
Speaker 2: to bed. But one night I saw it and it
Speaker 2: was kicking out these orbs into that Al Moon Wilderness area.
Speaker 2: It was dropping these balls of light, and I have
Speaker 2: a video of that I can show you. Toad slowed
Speaker 2: it down so you can see the orbs coming out
Speaker 2: of this UFO perfectly, and it's dropping them into that
Speaker 2: area where all this weirdness happens up there, the Al
Speaker 2: Moon Wilderness.
Speaker 1: Area, the whole I mean, I was just up in
Speaker 1: Oakridge this summer for a week and just the Lane
Speaker 1: County area is just so weird. Man big for society.
Speaker 1: Who will be right back after these messages?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's if you go up in the cascades there,
Speaker 2: it's like Sharp Creek and all those areas and the
Speaker 2: Bohemia area. There's all kinds of weirdness up there.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of weirdness about Sharp's Creek.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been contacting me about that
Speaker 1: whole campground area.
Speaker 2: Did you see did you see the portal picture? That
Speaker 2: I seen that I saw coming out of the tree.
Speaker 2: We were up there one night. It was me and
Speaker 2: Tob and a bunch of people from that area that
Speaker 2: Tob knows that are you know, Bigfoot community. Right, We're
Speaker 2: up there about I don't know, must have got to
Speaker 2: be about midnight. They were doing their drums and you know,
Speaker 2: we had a little fire. So this lady who is
Speaker 2: from Washington State, she's kind of a seer or whatever
Speaker 2: you call these ladies that kind of you know, know,
Speaker 2: a medium or whatever, know what's going on that that's it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: now right can the left of that as a giant,
Speaker 2: big pine tree if you look down low. But anyway,
Speaker 2: she told me, hey, there's a couple of bigfoot over
Speaker 2: the hill behind us, right here in the creek, which
Speaker 2: was only a few hundred yards. So I'm leaving the
Speaker 2: group there just to walk up this little rise and
Speaker 2: I'm looking to my right and I see this bright
Speaker 2: light start flashing. Now it's twelve thirty at night and
Speaker 2: the cascades up there at Sharp's Creek, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the heck is that we're the only people out here,
Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of the cascades on a
Speaker 2: Wednesday night at twelve thirty at night, and I see
Speaker 2: it flash a few times, so I walk closer and
Speaker 2: I get my phone ready and I'm thinking about it's
Speaker 2: doing it about every two minutes, So about one minute
Speaker 2: forty five seconds, I start snapping picks and I end
Speaker 2: up getting a picture of that. Wow, And that's a
Speaker 2: big pine tree. You can see it to the bottom left.
Speaker 2: And what it looked like was a years ago. When
Speaker 2: I was young, they had flash cubes on on cameras, flashbulbs,
Speaker 2: and they would flag make the flash for the camera
Speaker 2: and then they would kind of stay on for a
Speaker 2: second and then fade out slowly from the heat or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like. It looked like a flash
Speaker 2: cube thing blowing out of that tree, out of the
Speaker 2: sight of that big pine tree, up into the sky,
Speaker 2: and it is. It's really weird. So I showed it
Speaker 2: to everyone. They said, no, that's a portal. And it
Speaker 2: was funny because I saw it a couple more times,
Speaker 2: and I didn't go real close because I was scared
Speaker 2: of it. I went and got Tobin, came back and
Speaker 2: it had stopped doing it by then, but we heard
Speaker 2: two bigfoots whooping down in the creek after that, and
Speaker 2: some tree knocks and I got some crazy tree knocks too.
Speaker 2: I heard it at the Al Moonhouse. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: that thing right there is coming out of a I
Speaker 2: could take you right to the tree up there Sharp's
Speaker 2: Creek and show you its and it looked it was
Speaker 2: about eight feet tall, and it would it would just
Speaker 2: flash out of that tree up into the air like that,
Speaker 2: like it was going up into the air. It was
Speaker 2: a clear night, no clouds, no rain, perfectly clear night,
Speaker 2: and it's just some kind of energy release from that
Speaker 2: tree or something. I didn't nobody knows what it is, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Darryl, this this conversation has been incredible. Our time
Speaker 1: is rapidly getting to a close as we wrap up.
Speaker 1: So as you, let's say, if you continue to go
Speaker 1: through that massive backlog of audio and you find things
Speaker 1: like your version of something that sounds like the Samurai chatter,
Speaker 1: is there anywhere that you are putting these things up
Speaker 1: or is it just kind of like maybe someday there'll
Speaker 1: be an album LAB two or or we just kind
Speaker 1: of have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it all saved. So you know, Flash
Speaker 2: of Beauties use some of it and maybe we'll use
Speaker 2: some more there. Maybe there'll be more flash of beauties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always a good thing. I love those guys, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awesome. M Well, to have so much, I
Speaker 2: have everything but a body. You know. I have fingerprints, hair.
Speaker 2: I still got tons of hair. We had so many footprints.
Speaker 2: I just gave up. You know, hydro cows fifty bucks
Speaker 2: a bag or whatever.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, sure five worth of I feel that
Speaker 3: man that prints, Prince, make sure.
Speaker 1: That wilderness area if you could, if there could be
Speaker 1: people that start hitting that place hard again, I mean
Speaker 1: the stuff that could be pulled out of there could
Speaker 1: be intense.
Speaker 2: Oh it could, you know. I also have on my
Speaker 2: game cam, I have cloaking right where it ate the
Speaker 2: peanut butter off the tree. Have you seen that on
Speaker 2: Tobe's thing? He can send real good ones to you.
Speaker 2: It's like the thing Barbshoot got. You can see the
Speaker 2: peanut butter vanishing off the tree and there's like a
Speaker 2: distorted figure eating it.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Really you can see where it presses up against the
Speaker 2: latex gloves that I have tied onto the tree, because
Speaker 2: when I would do the peanut butter, I would use
Speaker 2: latex gloves on the pine tree, and then I just
Speaker 2: take them off inside out and tie them on the limb.
Speaker 2: Down below, you can see where this thing comes up
Speaker 2: with its leg and gets against the lake text gloves
Speaker 2: and actually lifts them up. I mean you can totally
Speaker 2: see through it, and you can just start seeing the
Speaker 2: peanut butter vanishing off the tree with a distorted figure
Speaker 2: like the Predator movie taking the peanut butter. So I
Speaker 2: if I had better cameras and all that, I think
Speaker 2: I could get a fully Mark harp Parker also has
Speaker 2: some really good Predator type stuff he got there from
Speaker 2: cookies that he put on a tree, nutter butter cookies,
Speaker 2: and his he had a little better game cam. But
Speaker 2: I think if I could get one of these new
Speaker 2: game cams, put one taking pictures in one doing a video,
Speaker 2: I think I could totally get a really good video
Speaker 2: of a cloaked out whatever this thing is, if it's
Speaker 2: a sasquatch or an alien.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because I do like a cellular game cam
Speaker 1: set up, so you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's no there's no phone service in that area.
Speaker 2: Just that area has absolutely no.
Speaker 3: Isn't just that one area just right there. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really surprised actually.
Speaker 2: And it'll knock your batteries out, it'll erase your phones,
Speaker 2: it'll yeah, it'll record a video on your phone, like
Speaker 2: it didn't mind its own video of two weird people talking.
Speaker 2: I'll send you that one too.
Speaker 3: Whoa dude, that's no.
Speaker 2: I talked to a police, a forensic guy. He can't
Speaker 2: figure it out. He's like, no, that's impossible that your
Speaker 2: phone midnight can can do its own video in your
Speaker 2: lock pickup truck. Because I didn't have my phone out
Speaker 2: there because I didn't have any service, and it's a
Speaker 2: night so it can't take pictures. So I just lock
Speaker 2: it in the truck. When we were out and we'd
Speaker 2: seen orbs that night, me and Tobe and another guy.
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of orbs there. You can probably
Speaker 2: go there anytime and see an ORB if you want
Speaker 2: to see it. They're red and white is the only
Speaker 2: two colors. I saw maybe a yellow orange like a
Speaker 2: burnt orange one or two.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: That whole area, Cottage Grove, Roseberg. I get tons of
Speaker 1: random people contacting me and being like, hey, I've experienced
Speaker 1: this around Roseberg or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I has a lot down there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff around Roseberg. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Two, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I could talk this stuff for three weeks because I
Speaker 2: got so much.
Speaker 3: I could listen for three weeks.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think the story is done,
Speaker 1: and I think eventually they'll they'll maybe be another conversation
Speaker 1: to be had. But I just want to say thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on Darryl for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and uh, thank you sharing some photos and we'll see
Speaker 1: where this leads. And you just before before you go though,
Speaker 1: are there are you actively putting out anything that or
Speaker 1: people can contact you or something where like you kind
Speaker 1: of if there's flash of beauty type thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of starting to try to make me
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel, you know, just put some of my
Speaker 2: stuff on there. I've been calling it Bigfoot justified, you know,
Speaker 2: so I just kind of started it. I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: tech zero, so I don't know how to put much
Speaker 2: on there or whatever. But as I go out there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of hook up with Tobe and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's having his thing, you know, in the twenty sixth
Speaker 2: out in Washington, so I'm gonna be out there for
Speaker 2: that and we're going to hang out and maybe he
Speaker 2: can help me put some things on there for people
Speaker 2: to see, or you know, contact me on Facebook and
Speaker 2: I can send you stuff on Messenger or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, So is it okay to link your your Facebook
Speaker 1: profile to this?
Speaker 2: Sure, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, your bigfoot justified the channel with four subscribers right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just started it and I'm you know, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I really need someone to help me with it. I'm
Speaker 2: not a I'm zero tech like. That's good to you
Speaker 2: like me because I'm not. I'm not a threat to him, right,
Speaker 2: eat them peanut butter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have any other any questions, feel free
Speaker 1: to reach out. I've done a little bit of YouTube stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll get that linked and hopefully some more
Speaker 1: people will be checking out your new channel. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you're doing that though. But Darryl, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for hanging out.
Speaker 3: Man is better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully our paths will cross one day outside
Speaker 1: of the internet. And yeah, you have a good day, man.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Her and I can get on here. We can tell
Speaker 2: our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's
Speaker 2: too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give
Speaker 2: them the courage to come out and that feels so
Speaker 2: bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know
Speaker 2: what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all
Speaker 2: I care about.
Speaker 4: Please let people know, Please let them know. If you
Speaker 4: ever see one of these things, you need to.
Speaker 2: Tell because if you don't, Ben, shame on you, you know,
Speaker 2: shame on you.
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