Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen? What?
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cult Rejects.
Speaker 4: This episode, we got a returning guest, somebody that was
Speaker 4: extremely excited to see text me with a topic for
Speaker 4: the show. He's always enjoying when she comes on, and
Speaker 4: it's always a good topic and it always comes with slides.
Speaker 4: You can't complain about that. So we got uh Megan
Speaker 4: back on with this. Before we introduce her, we're going
Speaker 4: to introduce the other two rejects joining me. We got
Speaker 4: the occult reject mad Scientist herself, Lisa.
Speaker 1: What is going on? Lisa? How are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good? Thank you for having me on, and I'm
Speaker 5: very excited to discuss the topic that Magan's got. It's
Speaker 5: very very interesting, So thank you for having.
Speaker 1: Me on, of course.
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm very excited for you to be here,
Speaker 4: and I know this was something you were interested in,
Speaker 4: so thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Hey boss? What's up?
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Speaker 6: of my first people that I actually sat down with
Speaker 6: four Threshold Saints one of my most popular episodes on
Speaker 6: The Lesser Keys of Solomon, So it was an awesome episode.
Speaker 6: And Megan was a great person to work with, like
Speaker 6: I worked with her many times and I think she's
Speaker 6: just a lovely person as well as a great magician.
Speaker 2: So I'm really excited to be on.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Jan, I appreciate that. Hi everyone, I'm Megan.
Speaker 3: If the new guys that haven't seen me yet, So
Speaker 3: I used to be on the show back in the day,
Speaker 3: I took kind of a six month hiatus and I
Speaker 3: had to, you know, figure some things out, and so
Speaker 3: I kind of went MIA for a while. During that time,
Speaker 3: I had a lot of downloads happen, I had a
Speaker 3: lot of studying going on. I switched some things up
Speaker 3: and went down a lot of different rabbit holes, which
Speaker 3: leads to what I'm going to be talking about today.
Speaker 3: So for those of you who don't know me, so,
Speaker 3: I'm a magician. I hate labels, but I practice ceremonial magic.
Speaker 3: I'm a mentor, I'm a professional tarot reader, parano investigator,
Speaker 3: all of those things. I'm going to give Nick all
Speaker 3: of my links, so if you guys want to book
Speaker 3: any sessions with me, I specialize in mentoring people that
Speaker 3: are starting out on their spiritual path and even more advanced.
Speaker 3: I also do different types of events paranormal investigating, ghost
Speaker 3: tours like things like that in my local area. And
Speaker 3: I have tons of other stuff like dream interpretation. I
Speaker 3: teach telepathy now psychic abilities, increasing your psychic abilities. You
Speaker 3: can go and look at my page and see everything
Speaker 3: that I offer. I also have a YouTube channel. So
Speaker 3: I used to have seven degrees of Wisdom. I've changed
Speaker 3: my name. It's the Seal and Sigul now. But my
Speaker 3: YouTube channel is at the Room of Requirement, so you
Speaker 3: guys can find me there. I would really appreciate it
Speaker 3: if you would go in sub check out the channel.
Speaker 3: I've got all new stuff on there. I basically just
Speaker 3: revamped all of my old stuff and hit it from
Speaker 3: a different angle. So but I'm really excited to be
Speaker 3: here and excited to share what I'm going to the
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Speaker 4: do want to pull up the slides now do you
Speaker 4: want to talk first?
Speaker 3: Let's just go ahead and get started because there's a
Speaker 3: backstory that leads into all of this.
Speaker 1: So awesome. Yeah, so we were told this is like
Speaker 1: a rabbit.
Speaker 3: Hole we're going to go down here, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is Some people are gonna be ready to hear this.
Speaker 1: Some people aren't face light one.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So basically this backstory, so I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna read it, okay, because I do better with notes
Speaker 3: because I have this forgetful mind. So so basically I
Speaker 3: took Darius jay Wright's training. So what Darius jay Wright does.
Speaker 3: He is a prolific out of body experiencer and he
Speaker 3: offers a course that I took, and it has like
Speaker 3: over one hundred hours of videos. Basically he teaches you
Speaker 3: to have controlled out of body experiences. I've been having
Speaker 3: out of body experiences since I was about seven years old, spontaneously.
Speaker 3: So I learned a ton of information from him. A
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that I didn't know exactly what
Speaker 3: was happening, I found out through his training. So in
Speaker 3: his training, he talks about the construct and the creation
Speaker 3: of this construct and what I mean by construct Okay,
Speaker 3: So he says that it is is basically built up
Speaker 3: of thirteen realms. Okay, So the thirteen realms, and then
Speaker 3: so he has actually mapped them all out. So he
Speaker 3: has been having out of body experiences since he was
Speaker 3: like sixteen. I think he's in his early thirties now,
Speaker 3: and so he's been doing this a lot, and so
Speaker 3: he started to map out all of the different constructs.
Speaker 3: So Earth is realm one, and then it goes all
Speaker 3: the way up to twelve, and then thirteen is the
Speaker 3: actual firmament itself. Okay. So as I was taking this training,
Speaker 3: I started noticing. I was like, Hey, a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff that he is talking about is what I've
Speaker 3: been studying my whole life, because I have over twenty
Speaker 3: five years of cult an esoteric study and practice under
Speaker 3: my belt. And I'm like thinking to myself, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: there are tons of connections here. So I went down
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole for like four months trying to validate
Speaker 3: what he was talking about and everything, and I started
Speaker 3: making connections. Okay, So so let me see so he
Speaker 3: so source, he calls it the void, so this would
Speaker 3: be God right. So this is outside, just outside of
Speaker 3: the firmament, and the inside of the firmament is the constellations. Okay.
Speaker 3: So it's not on the outside. There's no space. What's
Speaker 3: outside the firmament is other constructs okay. And so I
Speaker 3: have a visual that I found. I have several visuals
Speaker 3: that kind of show this, and this will make more
Speaker 3: sense as I go along. Okay. So he stated that
Speaker 3: in the eleventh realm there were thirteen beings, So he
Speaker 3: named each realm and what goes on in each realm.
Speaker 3: I won't totally get into that, but basically, when he
Speaker 3: got to the eleventh realm, with which he just now
Speaker 3: figured out what it was, because he has to go
Speaker 3: to them several times before he figures out exactly, he
Speaker 3: doesn't want to tell everybody what they are until he
Speaker 3: knows for sure what they are. You guys don't know
Speaker 3: who this guy is. You can look him up on YouTube.
Speaker 3: He has tons of testimonials from his students. And I
Speaker 3: believed him because I've been out of my body so
Speaker 3: many times and had so many experiences with this. I
Speaker 3: was like, this guy is talking truth, like he's he's
Speaker 3: for real, because I've experienced it myself. So he said
Speaker 3: the eleventh Realm, there are thirteen beings that created this construct.
Speaker 3: They reside on the eleventh realm, so there's no other
Speaker 3: beings there, just these thirteen beings, and all are the
Speaker 3: embodiment of all of the signs of the zodiac. Okay,
Speaker 3: so one of them have the essences of each zodiac sign. Oh,
Speaker 3: Fucus is the thirteenth zodiac sign, and it created the firmament, okay,
Speaker 3: which is the container of all the twelve realms. Okay,
Speaker 3: and so like a little side note, Jesus is said
Speaker 3: to be the son of the thirteenth being, and he
Speaker 3: came here to show us how to get out of
Speaker 3: this trap. So basically that's the that is the context
Speaker 3: of this story. Okay, Okay, So I created this. This
Speaker 3: is what he showed like on his training video, but
Speaker 3: I recreated it. So this is basically what he said
Speaker 3: is going on in the eleventh realm. Okay, it looks
Speaker 3: like this all the beings Okay, So we have we have?
Speaker 1: Is that like the idea of the secret chiefs? You've
Speaker 1: heard of that before? Have you heard of that?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of it?
Speaker 3: I mean I've heard that term, but I don't know
Speaker 3: a whole lot about it. It's okay, okay, that's Crawley.
Speaker 1: Stuff, right yeah, that like well the going to right Okay.
Speaker 3: All right, So so we're supposed to have So we
Speaker 3: have twelve strand DNA, but we're supposed to have thirteen. Okay,
Speaker 3: there's twelve months in a year that we're supposed to
Speaker 3: have thirteen. If we had twenty eight day cycles, there's
Speaker 3: twelve zodiac signs are supposed to be thirteen twelve apostles
Speaker 3: supposed to Jesus is thirteen Jesus's lost bloodline. So the
Speaker 3: thirteen beings created this construct based on the Zodiac. So
Speaker 3: what I'm getting here is I'm proving that this world
Speaker 3: that we're living in, this construct that we're living in,
Speaker 3: it's all tied to the Zodiac, and we're all created
Speaker 3: as above, so below, as within, so without. Okay, So okay,
Speaker 3: So these are all of the ancient versions of the construct. Okay,
Speaker 3: in the middle here you'll see Nasa, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: a ball is fear. But if you look at all
Speaker 3: of these different constructs from all of these ancient cultures,
Speaker 3: it's backing up what he's saying. Okay, So we have
Speaker 3: a flat plane, waters above, waters below, four corners Polaris.
Speaker 3: Then we have the South Pole, and he gets into
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff about the nature reality that I'm
Speaker 3: not even going to begin to explain because it's it's
Speaker 3: it'll take too long. But anyway, so we have all
Speaker 3: these representations of our construct, okay, from all over the world. Right,
Speaker 3: So we've got we've got the Greek, the Navajo, the Babylonian, Japanese, Persian, Viking, Indian, Mayan,
Speaker 3: inc And Hebrew, Australian. I mean, look at them, they're
Speaker 3: all they're all firmament, they're all. Yes, the water blove
Speaker 3: war below Islamic. Even the Masonic. We have the Masonic
Speaker 3: one here explains it too, even the Egyptian ones. Interesting.
Speaker 3: So I just kind of letbody to kind of take
Speaker 3: a look at that. You can google this image, by
Speaker 3: the way, if you want to get a closer look
Speaker 3: at all of this. Okay. So also the other thing
Speaker 3: is our construct is built on a troidal field, Okay,
Speaker 3: because our bodies are a tarroidal field. Our heart creates
Speaker 3: a troidal field, so we have the troid foot going around.
Speaker 3: He said that the Sun and the moon actually keep
Speaker 3: them in balance. Okay, So that's what kind of like.
Speaker 3: It doesn't really like power this construct, but it keeps
Speaker 3: it balanced in polarity. Okay. So here's another another version.
Speaker 3: I think this one is Hindu. Okay, So this is
Speaker 3: the thirteen realms, and he says the middle which is
Speaker 3: a sixth realm. He calls it Middle Earth, and it
Speaker 3: is basically a way station between the upper realms and
Speaker 3: the lower realms. Okay, and this is depicted here, and
Speaker 3: you see on the top he's got the firmament, and
Speaker 3: then if you look up at the corners, it says
Speaker 3: other universes. So those are the other constructs on the outside,
Speaker 3: just like he describes. Okay, all of these realms. It
Speaker 3: has the water to above, waters below in the firmament.
Speaker 3: Pretty interesting, right, Okay, same here, water above, water below.
Speaker 3: So he was actually talking about how he went under
Speaker 3: the ocean, and he's seen running water under the ocean
Speaker 3: as well, like under our ocean, like rivers. Okay. So
Speaker 3: then we have some more depictions here. You know, all
Speaker 3: this art, that's what this is. This is like you're
Speaker 3: getting outside the firmament. All this stuff here on the left.
Speaker 3: Those are all the different realms. Okay, here's another depiction.
Speaker 3: This is Greek. So we have the heaven of Heaven's
Speaker 3: ocean of heaven, the firmament, the stars. They got the
Speaker 3: stars the firmament, so the firmament actually moves itself. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's what makes the sky go around. Okay, nothing actually
Speaker 3: is like and the planets are within it. So the
Speaker 3: planets are actually stargate portals Okay, to other dimensions and
Speaker 3: so are the constellations. Okay. So then I thought, okay,
Speaker 3: let me find some science to back this up, because
Speaker 3: I was like, I have to, I have to. I
Speaker 3: have to see if there's any science behind this. So
Speaker 3: this is Heim's twelve dimensions. Okay, So this is actually
Speaker 3: quantum physics, right. So so that this paper recontextualizes Burkehead's
Speaker 3: Heeims's theory of twelve dimensions within the framework of extent
Speaker 3: and extent literature on energy, dimensions, a reality, and consciousness,
Speaker 3: providing a comprehensive synthesis that aligns Heim's dimensional theory with
Speaker 3: contemporary scientific and philosophical thought. Critically analyzing Heim's multidimensional theory
Speaker 3: presents a unique opportunity to explore the multi layered fabric
Speaker 3: of reality, encompassing the micro to the macrocosmic scales. And
Speaker 3: this paper explains how Heim's dimensions can be integrated with
Speaker 3: modern insights into space, time's nature, energy dynamics, and consciousness phenomena.
Speaker 3: In reinterpreting Heim's theory against modern scientific and philosophical discourse backdrop,
Speaker 3: this paper synthesizes Heim's dimensional framework with existing energy, reality,
Speaker 3: and consciousness paradigms. So I read the entire paper, but
Speaker 3: I just clipped some stuff from it. This integrative approach
Speaker 3: and riches our understanding of Heim's contributions and advance the
Speaker 3: dialogue between the multidimensional theory and current research and quantum physics,
Speaker 3: energy and consciousness studies. So I remember a few years
Speaker 3: back hearing scientists say, oh, well there's eleven, or there's
Speaker 3: like nine, ten, and then it was eleven, and then
Speaker 3: I heard twelve, and now I've even heard I was
Speaker 3: doing doing some research, even heard like thirty seven. Okay,
Speaker 3: so these could probably be like parallel dimensions. But I
Speaker 3: found this pretty interesting. Okay. So in the question to
Speaker 3: understand the fabric of reality, the work of Burkeheadheim stands
Speaker 3: as a monumental attempt to bridge the gap between the
Speaker 3: scene and the unseen, the known and the unknown. His
Speaker 3: theory of the twelve dimensions proposed as a framework that
Speaker 3: transcends the conventional four dimensional continuum of space time, inviting
Speaker 3: us into realms of speculative physics, or the line between
Speaker 3: science and philosophy blurs. So the purpose of this paper
Speaker 3: is to reinterpret Heim's theoretical contributions new worldview of physics
Speaker 3: were called Burkard Heim and r Back and Ludwiggers in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety two. So Heim's Siria of elementary particle of
Speaker 3: situating them within the modern discourse surrounding the concepts of energy, reality,
Speaker 3: and consciousness. So this next one, this is his drawing
Speaker 3: of it, explaining how we can have these twelve different
Speaker 3: dimensions or twelve realms. Okay, Darius calls them twelve heavens.
Speaker 3: So at once we were everything was here in realm one,
Speaker 3: and then we had the Great Flood, and then we
Speaker 3: had the Great War, the Big Reset, and then all
Speaker 3: the beings left and split. Okay, so this this all
Speaker 3: makes sense. So I just wanted to show like there's
Speaker 3: actual science behind this too.
Speaker 1: These have you mentioned the student before?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, everything that Megan had just said, there's a
Speaker 5: I was looking at that the two pair pyramidal type
Speaker 5: structures with the flat plane. I've been and I'll answer
Speaker 5: your question just real quick, nick. I've been told several
Speaker 5: times that they believe that the universe is like two
Speaker 5: saddles on top of each other, were two u's on
Speaker 5: top of each other to where the point of the
Speaker 5: US or the point of the saddles meet, and then
Speaker 5: they go in opposite direction. So what you pointed out
Speaker 5: with the I don't know what you call them, pyramidal
Speaker 5: type structure, geometric structure with the flat plane, that agrees
Speaker 5: with exactly what I had heard in lectures I don't know,
Speaker 5: maybe about twenty years ago. And yes, the different levels.
Speaker 5: I remember when they first said it was eleven, and
Speaker 5: for a long time they kept saying it was eleven eleven,
Speaker 5: and I think here recently said that the reason we
Speaker 5: thought it was eleven was because our dimensions only perceive eleven,
Speaker 5: like in terms of I think cognition or something like that,
Speaker 5: but that if we were able to see more, such
Speaker 5: as like if we were able to see more of
Speaker 5: the spectrum, if we were able to understand more, perceive more,
Speaker 5: we would see more dimensions. And there has been the
Speaker 5: whole talk of the thirteen. Hence why I was the
Speaker 5: whole meso America thing comes into play because they had
Speaker 5: a belief that there was thirteen heavens or thirteen layers
Speaker 5: or thirteen realms within the context of their belief system.
Speaker 5: And they really didn't believe like in a heaven and hell.
Speaker 5: They just believed in different levels.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, Okay, So for centuries, the pursuit of understanding
Speaker 3: the nature of reality, the fabric of space, time, and
Speaker 3: the essence of consciousness have intrigued philosophers and scientists alike.
Speaker 3: The advent of quantum physics and advances in the study
Speaker 3: of consciousness have expanded the horizons of this quest, revealing
Speaker 3: complexities that stretch far beyond the four dimensional space time
Speaker 3: continuum commonly experienced in everyday life. One theoretical contribution that
Speaker 3: stands out on its ambition to chart the unexplored territories
Speaker 3: of reality in Burckhead Burkehadheim's theory of twelve dimensions. His
Speaker 3: pioneering yet underappreciated framework proposes the structure of reality that
Speaker 3: extends into dimensions beyond those validated by empirical observation, offering
Speaker 3: novel insights into the interaction between energy, matter, and consciousness.
Speaker 3: Physics has proved has provided insights into the fundamental particles
Speaker 3: and forces that constitute the material aspects of our universe.
Speaker 3: While philosophy is grappled with the nature of reality and existence,
Speaker 3: the study of consciousness, once the sole province of philosophers
Speaker 3: and theologians, has become an important area of inquiry within
Speaker 3: neuroscience and psychology. With its bold postulation of higher dimensional spaces,
Speaker 3: Heim's multidimensional theory stands as a proposition that beckons us
Speaker 3: to reevaluate potentially expand our current paradigms. Okay, so here
Speaker 3: are some I pulled. A couple of these are Hildegard
Speaker 3: Vanbingian's art, so I think she was picking up on
Speaker 3: these dimensions as well. The one here on the far
Speaker 3: right is the Egyptian version. Okay, well, sorry.
Speaker 2: Mate, And I just want to jump in really quick.
Speaker 6: A great series on helldi Guard or a really long,
Speaker 6: full range episode on all her work.
Speaker 2: But for me also.
Speaker 6: She's extremely interesting simply because I do think that she
Speaker 6: is sort of reintroducing Christian Cabala back into sort of
Speaker 6: like the more Rosicrushian ideas.
Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree, love her. I remember doing a
Speaker 3: show with me and it was me and Mario, I think,
Speaker 3: and Nick did a show on her too, and then
Speaker 3: you did one separately. But do you remember that one
Speaker 3: that we did Nick about her and her psychic visions,
Speaker 3: and I think I think she was coming out of
Speaker 3: body or going into higher realms and figuring this out.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of her art, if you
Speaker 3: just sit and look through all of her art, because
Speaker 3: I remember we decoded it. To me, it's looking like
Speaker 3: she's mapping out these different realms and with all the angels,
Speaker 3: because the eighth realm is the seraphim, and so that
Speaker 3: that's what he says, The eighth realm is a seraphim.
Speaker 1: So I think did you do that with us too,
Speaker 1: didn't you?
Speaker 3: I did one with you guys, but I think you
Speaker 3: did one separately.
Speaker 5: Maybe, So, yeah, we covered we covered Hildegard and I
Speaker 5: think you covered Hildegard and I covered I don't remember.
Speaker 5: I think it was one of the the guys who
Speaker 5: was known for the column who made the first column.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Then we had Mario on. I think
Speaker 1: we went over some of the artwork.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think if I remember correctly, I think
Speaker 4: when she was younger, she used to get like these
Speaker 4: horrible headaches or these fevers.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I used to wonder if that's she probably
Speaker 1: would Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Yep. I
Speaker 1: was like she was already having an OBEs as a kid.
Speaker 2: I do wonder about that. Oh sorry, Lisa, No, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to correct me for anything.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: It was saying Francis, sorry, my bad, because it was
Speaker 5: the two that we did. Okay, sorry, go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 6: J Well, no, this is actually something that you'll know
Speaker 6: more about than I do, Lisa. But a lot of
Speaker 6: people who have experienced like chronic migraines. I'm not just
Speaker 6: talking about like the neck migraines. I'm talking about like
Speaker 6: full head, behind the eye migraines. They will often see
Speaker 6: talk about seeing auras. Why I know this is because
Speaker 6: I so heat to get them as a kid.
Speaker 3: So yep, mhm.
Speaker 6: So it just it was interesting that you said that, Megan,
Speaker 6: I never saw spirits or like suffer, I don't think
Speaker 6: as far as I know, but you know, I mean
Speaker 6: you do see things. I mean it was more refractions
Speaker 6: of light kind of thing and sensitivity.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I think there definitely is a connection
Speaker 3: there from what I've seen because I'm an intuitive and
Speaker 3: a channeler and all that stuff too. So it's like
Speaker 3: that was another thing that you know, when I was
Speaker 3: in my hiatus, I all of a sudden started spontaneously
Speaker 3: channeling too, So you know, I totally get it and
Speaker 3: there is a connection there. When we get in those
Speaker 3: types of states and experience extreme pain or extreme stress,
Speaker 3: which you know pain causes a lot of stress. You
Speaker 3: can tap into the higher dimensions. You can come out
Speaker 3: of your body. You can see your your field of vision,
Speaker 3: that spectrum, that light spectrum expands and you can see
Speaker 3: these things. But I think she was getting these downloads too,
Speaker 3: and I know, I know for a fact she was
Speaker 3: channeling this stuff. I mean all of the music, I
Speaker 3: mean everything. I'd completely agree with that, okay. So okay,
Speaker 3: so then it also ties into so I'm just showing visuals.
Speaker 3: But then I'm going to tie all this together, okay. Okay.
Speaker 3: So we have the Kabalistic tree of life here, and
Speaker 3: we have three different versions. Okay. So I have one
Speaker 3: here that has the planets and the zodiac signs, and
Speaker 3: then I have one that has the major Arcanda associations. Okay,
Speaker 3: And this also ties into and I'm going to get
Speaker 3: into this. So if we have ten sepharro and then
Speaker 3: we have the ein the rosoft and the ironesoft are
Speaker 3: that's thirteen. THET in the middle would be fourteen, Okay,
Speaker 3: And I believe that the fourteen that dot is a knowledge.
Speaker 3: You're the key to transcend these thirteen dimensions to achieve enlightenment. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I think this is what this is too, is
Speaker 3: is a map on how to do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I definitely agree with this.
Speaker 6: I think it's a completely like I think the tree
Speaker 6: is a really good and fundamental map for the universe.
Speaker 6: Like much like, yes, I'm obviously Buddhist, so like when
Speaker 6: you show the other diagrams, that's fine for me, but
Speaker 6: I think for other people when they're approaching it, like
Speaker 6: the tree is just much simpler.
Speaker 2: But it's also not simple.
Speaker 6: It's kind of it's very complex once you start to
Speaker 6: understand it, but at face value, it's learnable. It's like
Speaker 6: you can you can easily say, okay, this is a map.
Speaker 6: Now learn these names, learn these numbers, learn these colors,
Speaker 6: and then you've sort of done one at least one density.
Speaker 6: So I think, yeah, I love the tree personally and
Speaker 6: nick nosis and that, but I also think that what
Speaker 6: is really interesting about what you're saying is that death
Speaker 6: can also be the fifth density of the suffer themselves,
Speaker 6: so it can be like the hidden well in the
Speaker 6: part of system, like the hidden fifth layer. So I
Speaker 6: agree with you that it's interesting that it's fourteen, but
Speaker 6: also in the thirteen is interesting because that sounds like
Speaker 6: they're talking about he said, which means that the universe
Speaker 6: would then be infinite, an expanse like it would it
Speaker 6: would be like the I think we were talking about
Speaker 6: the eleven. I think at least brought it up, Like
Speaker 6: I was thinking, Okay, this is like when Nikos talks
Speaker 6: about like the rod and the cones, so like hesaid,
Speaker 6: would really be like the cone. It's like you're seeing
Speaker 6: further away. You're seeing like the potential of possibility further
Speaker 6: away from you, and it's always constantly in motion.
Speaker 2: So as I don't know, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 6: I'm not that biological, but I hope I didn't butcher
Speaker 6: at least I apologize.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's perfect. I'm glad that you brought
Speaker 3: that up and tied that together too. But yeah, it
Speaker 3: was just it was crazy because I just started seeing
Speaker 3: all these similarities and like tying this all together. And
Speaker 3: before all this happened, I kept seeing the number thirteen
Speaker 3: everywhere everywhere, and I'm still like seeing it and I'm
Speaker 3: like I'm like wait a minute, Like this is a
Speaker 3: sacred number and occult ism. There has to be something
Speaker 3: to this. I mean, all these thirteens everywhere, right.
Speaker 5: So the number thirteen was absolutely sacred in meso America
Speaker 5: throughout all of the different belief systems from the River
Speaker 5: down to Patagonia.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So then I started thinking, okay, well, numerology
Speaker 3: in Taro, so we have if you break down thirteen months,
Speaker 3: three is four. So that's foundation, So that could be
Speaker 3: the construct right. And then in the tarot you have death,
Speaker 3: which is the thirteenth major arcana, which represents death and
Speaker 3: rebirth in the cycle of reincarnation, right, so that it
Speaker 3: ties into that too. I could go way more in
Speaker 3: depth there, but I'm just going to leave it at that, Okay.
Speaker 3: So the esoteric meaning of the number thirteen in ancient cultures,
Speaker 3: so ancient poets associated the thirteen vibrations with reincarnation, but
Speaker 3: it is also heavily linked with the solar system. The
Speaker 3: astronomical reference to thirteen relates to the houses of the
Speaker 3: zodiac and either the Sun or the moon in the
Speaker 3: center of the sun being the male energy and the
Speaker 3: moonbean female. Sun and moon are highly symbolic references that
Speaker 3: relate to the human psyche. So in relation to the
Speaker 3: esoteric meaning of the number thirteen. You'll find clues in
Speaker 3: Jesus and the Twelve Disciples. Romulus, one of the founding
Speaker 3: brothers of Rome, is followed by twelve shepherds, and in
Speaker 3: Greek mythology, Odysseus has twelve companions that are also twelve
Speaker 3: gods of Olympus and twelve labors of Hercules. Each represents
Speaker 3: a sign of the zodiac. Note that there's always twelve
Speaker 3: of something around the central character, the thirteenth element. The
Speaker 3: thirteenth is you, a part of your conscious mind with
Speaker 3: which you make decisions. So you will also find twelve
Speaker 3: stars featured in the halos of the saints the halos
Speaker 3: and indicates the individual is enlightened, consciousness is alive in
Speaker 3: the light of the consciousness of the mind. The Virgin Mary,
Speaker 3: the female principle associated with the moon, often appears with
Speaker 3: twelve stars around the top of her head. So the
Speaker 3: moon gets its light from the reflection of the sun,
Speaker 3: and the sun is the symbol of self knowledge and
Speaker 3: the illuminated mind. The ancients devise the esoteric meaning for
Speaker 3: the number thirteen because of celestial motion of the sun
Speaker 3: and the moon. The moon travels an average of thirteen
Speaker 3: degrees a day, and there are thirteen weeks between the
Speaker 3: equinoxes and solstices. So the equinoxes and solstices, of course
Speaker 3: signify the changing of the seasons, whereby the end or
Speaker 3: death one of the seasons enters into a new season
Speaker 3: cycle of new beginnings. So interestingly enough, the thirteenth letter
Speaker 3: of the English alphabet is m, which in Ancient Hebrew
Speaker 3: a spelt mem meaning mother. In Egypt, the word for
Speaker 3: water is moo. The divine mothers associate with water and
Speaker 3: the moon, so all life begins with water right, waters above,
Speaker 3: waters below. Okay, so here's some We all know the
Speaker 3: zodiacal correspondences and planetary correspondences to the human body itself.
Speaker 3: So if these thirteen beings created us in their image
Speaker 3: through this right, so they say that when we incarnate,
Speaker 3: we pass through the constellation of our choice and take
Speaker 3: on its essence, and that gives us. So astrology is
Speaker 3: way deeper than just our personality traits. It's actually a
Speaker 3: wheel that we have to go through. I think it's
Speaker 3: actually the path of death and rebirth or reincarnation, or
Speaker 3: the wheel that we get trapped on. So we have
Speaker 3: to master these signs, and I think that's that all
Speaker 3: that's also connected. Okay, so here's some alchemical diagrams too
Speaker 3: that I think show the thirteen realms in the construct
Speaker 3: and how it all works. Okay, so we've all seen these, right.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he was showing the same thing. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It had some that was circulus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we if you start digging like I did,
Speaker 3: I seen it everywhere. I couldn't not see it. It
Speaker 3: was like, you can't you can't unsee it. Once you
Speaker 3: you kind of know what s you're looking for, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: So I'm getting towards the end here. So the zodiac
Speaker 3: will is the cycle of reincarnation. The thirteen realms or
Speaker 3: dimensions are the product of the thirteen zodiac signs, which
Speaker 3: are the beings of creation. We are only one perspective
Speaker 3: at a time, lifetime after lifetime. This is the view,
Speaker 3: and it is the micro and the macrocosm as above,
Speaker 3: so below, et cetera. We are meant to embody all
Speaker 3: of these zodiacal qualities of each sign to ascend now
Speaker 3: and through lifetimes to ascend. So I think that all
Speaker 3: of our lifetimes that we come back with reincarnation. You know,
Speaker 3: we choose these different zodiacal signs, and if we don't
Speaker 3: master then we come back, have to keep coming back.
Speaker 3: I think this is part of the trap that everyone's
Speaker 3: talking about of being, you know, the demiurge spitting us
Speaker 3: back out over and over and over again. So, just
Speaker 3: like the concept of the twenty two major occon of
Speaker 3: the Tarot, you must make the full journey to the
Speaker 3: end to achieve enlightenment. So this is the importance of
Speaker 3: the number thirteen, why it's sacred in magical orders. We
Speaker 3: must alchemize ourselves to realize that. So most people only
Speaker 3: see it from one fractal like one piece of the whole,
Speaker 3: and focus on that like one area of study. But
Speaker 3: if you look at this as a whole, a cohesive whole,
Speaker 3: of all the ancient teachings, it's all there, the same information,
Speaker 3: just fragments. It teaches coherence, a harmonization. This is the
Speaker 3: key to ascension and to learn how to anchor and integrate.
Speaker 3: This is also what the Cobblistic tree of life is,
Speaker 3: a map of the thirteen to find the path through
Speaker 3: and back up. This is the flaming sword, the tense sepharroo,
Speaker 3: then the eye the einsoft iron soft are three thirteenth.
Speaker 3: The hot is the fourteenth, which is the key, and
Speaker 3: that the numerology would be one plus four equus five,
Speaker 3: So that's the four elements plus spirit. So I tied
Speaker 3: that in together as well. So how high magic and
Speaker 3: ceremonial magic pulls all this together, so purifying the soul
Speaker 3: and building the aura to make the ascent up the tree.
Speaker 3: The foundation of ritual magic is astrology, alchemy, angels which
Speaker 3: are geometric codes as frequencies and planetary energies. That's what
Speaker 3: we work with, right. So the goal of the Great
Speaker 3: Work is to transcend the zodiacal influences and escape the
Speaker 3: cycle of reincarnation. So that's what the great work is, right.
Speaker 3: So most people only focus on one subject or another,
Speaker 3: but if used and practiced as a cohesive whole, such
Speaker 3: as young and archetypes, tarot alchemy, sacred geometry, energy manipulation
Speaker 3: and control, nervous system regulation, psychology, et cetera, this is
Speaker 3: when it all comes together. So all the lost puzzle
Speaker 3: pieces fit frequency and harmonic tone, open the doorways, and
Speaker 3: this is what the pyramids were actually built for all.
Speaker 3: So this is all lost knowledge and this is what
Speaker 3: seekers are looking for and how it ties in all together. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's what I have for you guys. I just
Speaker 3: want to know what you guys think about all that.
Speaker 3: I know that's what to me. It's all one cohesive whole.
Speaker 3: I think as seekers, mystics, magicians like, we're all just
Speaker 3: we tend to focus on one thing or another and
Speaker 3: then get lost in that for a while. Master this,
Speaker 3: then master that. But I think if we look at
Speaker 3: it from one cohesive whole, and if this is true
Speaker 3: and we've got these thirteen dimensions and we are all astrology,
Speaker 3: if we can combine all of these lost agent teachings,
Speaker 3: I think that's what they were talking about. I think
Speaker 3: that's that's the missing key, is using these things all
Speaker 3: together to ascend. And I think once you understand the
Speaker 3: nature of our reality, the construct that we're in, and
Speaker 3: you know these things and then you master these things,
Speaker 3: it all just shows you everything together. So that's pretty
Speaker 3: much what I got for you guys on that. What
Speaker 3: do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I think the images that you were showing was really
Speaker 1: interesting in that highness stuff. It kind of still makes
Speaker 1: me think of like a black.
Speaker 4: Whole in the sense mm hmm, or you know, like
Speaker 4: a how to explain it, but the whole death and
Speaker 4: rebirth and having like the one with all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Somebody was even saying, fuck I lost it now, oh
Speaker 4: to twelve cranial.
Speaker 1: Nerves and then the pineal gland. I mean that's still
Speaker 1: like the one in the twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this goes way deep. Like you guys know
Speaker 3: all this stuff if you guys are watching channels, a
Speaker 3: channel like this, like everything that we were talking about,
Speaker 3: all this stuff we talk about, like if you look,
Speaker 3: if you think about it, it's it's all tied in together.
Speaker 3: It's just what are we focusing on at the moment.
Speaker 3: But it all makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this times that.
Speaker 4: Like Robbie Marx has even said that he thinks sometimes
Speaker 4: when it comes to a cult symbology or even numerology,
Speaker 4: that you have to include like yourself or the one
Speaker 4: in it, so that they just you know, kind of
Speaker 4: pertains to that too as well.
Speaker 1: Definitely got me interested about the.
Speaker 6: No, go ahead, go ahead, no there is your totally
Speaker 6: right though, Nick and Robbie's right too, it's that it's
Speaker 6: always plus one, that's always the witness.
Speaker 2: That's how always works.
Speaker 1: And for Jehovah's there's always a witness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's stupid. No, it's not. And they knock on
Speaker 3: our doors a lot around here in the South and
Speaker 3: just tell you that, Oh my god, I've scared the
Speaker 3: crap out of quite a few of them.
Speaker 1: I've gotten here with the Mormons a lot in North Carolina. Yo.
Speaker 1: One time, I shit you not, it happened. Why I
Speaker 1: was live.
Speaker 4: They came and like I thought I was getting a
Speaker 4: package or something, so like I even like paused, well
Speaker 4: paused me. You know, I just turned off the camera
Speaker 4: and like literally went to the door and like I'm
Speaker 4: looking through the keyhole and I'm like, Yo, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is the odds of me covering Mormons right now
Speaker 4: on the podcast? And I got three fucking teenage kids
Speaker 4: outside I want to talk to me about Mormonism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I legit, I've.
Speaker 4: Been said, like I'm doing a podcast right now. I
Speaker 4: really can't. Like I even like showed like the whole
Speaker 4: thing for my door. I was like, I really don't
Speaker 4: have the time for this. I was like I thought
Speaker 4: I was getting a package. That's the only reason why
Speaker 4: I answered the door. Dude, Oh no, it wasn't even
Speaker 4: a package.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 4: Again, the guy the people are coming here to fix something.
Speaker 4: The apoll me and he's like, oh, well come on,
Speaker 4: we can come on the show. And I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's yeah, that'd be really fun.
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I thought about it.
Speaker 4: I was like, how funny that would have been though,
Speaker 4: if I would have pulled that off the right way,
Speaker 4: you know, just like real quick, Oh look who happened
Speaker 4: to stop pot right now?
Speaker 1: But at first I was like this. I was like,
Speaker 1: and like the kid on podcasting with.
Speaker 4: He'll probably like think they're actually my friends, and I'll
Speaker 4: start telling everybody that I'm on a Mormon podcast and now,
Speaker 4: so I was like, too much things to worry about.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I was like, it
Speaker 1: just seems too.
Speaker 4: Weird, like all those of the Mormons here here as
Speaker 4: I'm talking about them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, how I got off on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have went deeper into this, guys. I
Speaker 3: just I was thinking that, you know, it was going
Speaker 3: to be too much, but do your own research. I mean,
Speaker 3: you guys, look into this and you will see it everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's in all the ancient texts, the manuscripts, the codexes, everything, everything.
Speaker 3: It's even in the Bible, right, you know, the Great Flood,
Speaker 3: the firmament. How you know, God created light and then
Speaker 3: he created these beings, and these beings created the constructs.
Speaker 3: So there's like millions and millions of constructs outside of
Speaker 3: our own. It's not just like empty space, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's just something interesting to kind of think about.
Speaker 3: Things are never really what they seem, you know you.
Speaker 4: And now what would you think like kind of like
Speaker 4: a like so much like with the thirteenth Zodiac actually
Speaker 4: would like I guess if you wanted to explain it,
Speaker 4: kind of like how you look at zodiacs now, how
Speaker 4: we explain.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, so I remember I was going to mention
Speaker 3: this too. I did a show with Mario probably a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and we talked about the four
Speaker 3: fixed sides of the zodiac and we talked about o
Speaker 3: Fucus and back then I said, and I was kind
Speaker 3: of going out on a limb and I said, I
Speaker 3: think Olfucus is like a way station. I think that
Speaker 3: it's like a place that you go before you reincarnate again.
Speaker 3: And that was like in the back of my head
Speaker 3: as I was like learning all this stuff too, And
Speaker 3: there's I have a little bit of notes here that
Speaker 3: I forgot I was going to read. So the twelve
Speaker 3: realms reflect the full circle of the embodied polarity. The
Speaker 3: thirteenth realm, firmament O fucus, is not beyond, but is
Speaker 3: the binding resonance that unites them into one to royal field.
Speaker 3: This is why some traditions kept O Fucus hidden because
Speaker 3: it represents the key to coherence, the serpuit wisdom, wisdom
Speaker 3: that stabilizes the cycle. So that was some stuff that
Speaker 3: I channeled, So, I mean, that's what I think. I
Speaker 3: just thought that was really interesting that you know, O
Speaker 3: Fucus is the firmament itself. And then he said around
Speaker 3: twelve is the council. So that is like, you know,
Speaker 3: the council that decides what goes on in all of
Speaker 3: the different realms. Maybe I could do a show sometimes
Speaker 3: talking about all the different realms and everything. So when
Speaker 3: I was taking his training, I actually had a spontaneous
Speaker 3: out of body experience, and he teaches you several different
Speaker 3: methods of coming out of your body. And he talks
Speaker 3: about this publicly, so I'm not like, you know, blasting him,
Speaker 3: So you basically you've got to be still for like
Speaker 3: ninety minutes. We have four to five sleep cycles that
Speaker 3: we go through every night, and we go into sleep paralysis.
Speaker 3: We're just not conscious of it. We actually come out
Speaker 3: in our own personal dimensional space. And now this ties
Speaker 3: everything together for me because it would happen to me constantly.
Speaker 3: We all have our own personal dimensional space. Okay, once
Speaker 3: we get out of that personal dimensional space, then you
Speaker 3: can travel through these different realms that he's talking about,
Speaker 3: but you have to command to go there. You have
Speaker 3: to become completely conscious of you being out of body,
Speaker 3: and then you can command to go to different realms.
Speaker 3: I had one spontaneously. I wasn't trying. I realized what
Speaker 3: was going on. I commanded to see my soul records,
Speaker 3: and I was taken there and then I got excited
Speaker 3: and it got sucked right back in, and then I
Speaker 3: popped into a lucid dream and then I woke up.
Speaker 3: So any kind of excitement, if you stay too close
Speaker 3: to your body, you'll get sucked right back in because
Speaker 3: the magnetic pull to your heart, the field will suck
Speaker 3: your soul right back in. So you have to get
Speaker 3: is if you can find yourself in sleep, pause to
Speaker 3: stay calm, pull yourself out, and get as far away
Speaker 3: from your body as possible. Then command where you want
Speaker 3: to go, who you want to see, who you want
Speaker 3: to talk to, all these different types of things.
Speaker 4: I will say, when I go wherever, whatever's going on
Speaker 4: inside of myself does feel like like a vacuum like
Speaker 4: literally just.
Speaker 1: Like sucks your soul like right the fuck out of
Speaker 1: the top of your head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're what you're feeling, is the poll. Yep,
Speaker 3: you're feeling the pole. And then like usually when you're
Speaker 3: when you're asleep and all of a sudden you jerk, that's
Speaker 3: you coming back in. That's you actually swimming back into
Speaker 3: your body.
Speaker 4: Do you ever like as you're like slowly sun a
Speaker 4: full of sleep, like people even people in the chatter
Speaker 4: on the show, like you have that feeling of like
Speaker 4: you're starting to slip off into a dream or like
Speaker 4: you're you're starting to like full of sleep, or even
Speaker 4: like when I've been sick and you're almost like kind
Speaker 4: of starting to go out.
Speaker 1: It's almost this feeling of.
Speaker 4: This poll, but it feels like that really intensely, and
Speaker 4: it ends up going somewhere further than falling.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if you become conscious, even in a lucid dream,
Speaker 3: you can come in to go to these realms. You
Speaker 3: just have to state where you want to go, state
Speaker 3: what you want to do, and with practice you can
Speaker 3: you can do this. So I've been practicing for months now,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I get myself in sleep paralysis on
Speaker 3: purpose so that I can have control, come out and
Speaker 3: then go where I want to go. And it's it's
Speaker 3: it's absolutely fascinating. I mean, so all of these things,
Speaker 3: it's like and what I didn't understand is all the
Speaker 3: negative experiences that I had when I would come out
Speaker 3: of my body uncontrolled, when I would see like the
Speaker 3: darker type things. What those are are? They are your
Speaker 3: fears manifested and a lot of people think that they're
Speaker 3: actually like entities, but they're actually things that you create
Speaker 3: with your own fears. So it's like your psyche trying
Speaker 3: to work out these things. A lot of the things
Speaker 3: that you do see in your own personal dimensional space
Speaker 3: when you're dreaming and you come out of your body
Speaker 3: is creations that you've created yourself and they're your own
Speaker 3: fears and a lot it scares the crap out a
Speaker 3: lot of people. It did me for years and years
Speaker 3: and years. When I took his training, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, now I know what all that was.
Speaker 3: Makes total sense to me now because you know, at
Speaker 3: the time when I was going through that, a lot
Speaker 3: of high stress, a lot of stuff was going on
Speaker 3: in my life, and so you will start to have
Speaker 3: a lot of sleep paralysis if you're highly stressed, going
Speaker 3: through a lot of grief, all that stuff. But all
Speaker 3: that stuff, you're actually creating it. And then you can
Speaker 3: even have shared dreams with people. Like say you sleep
Speaker 3: next to someone and you sleep with someone in the
Speaker 3: same house, your personal dimensional spaces will criss cross, and
Speaker 3: then you will start to have their personal dimensional space
Speaker 3: show up in your dreams. And then you come out
Speaker 3: of your body, you can actually see time space potentialities.
Speaker 3: Like if you come out and you see things that
Speaker 3: are stretched, you are accessing time space and time space potentialities.
Speaker 3: So I thought that's pretty interesting. So what do you
Speaker 3: think of all this, Jen, I think it's in I
Speaker 3: think it's all real.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's been my experience. I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 6: that's what Nick and I always talk about, like every
Speaker 6: time I come on. Like, I think there are different
Speaker 6: cosmologies and different kinds of ways to understand how to
Speaker 6: get there, and like the methodology in which you use
Speaker 6: to do that or even understand the experience itself. But
Speaker 6: I think that from my opinion, most are similar, and
Speaker 6: we might have different ways that we describe it, but
Speaker 6: it's much more similar than it is not, And even
Speaker 6: the discrepancies with numbers, like you can see this with
Speaker 6: all the different systems.
Speaker 2: You can see they played with base nine.
Speaker 6: There's so much base nine everywhere, and then there's yeah,
Speaker 6: base eleven, and you see base ten, and you see
Speaker 6: base thirteen very frequently, sometimes you see base seventeen. So
Speaker 6: you can see that they're all playing with these different
Speaker 6: kinds of models of the universe to try and describe
Speaker 6: all the things that they're seeing in magical experiences. And
Speaker 6: so I agree with Nick that it all comes back
Speaker 6: down to like those experiences, rather than it being quote
Speaker 6: unquote magic in and of itself, I think it's much
Speaker 6: more relating things that we should be seeing, speriences we're
Speaker 6: trying to have, rather than saying like, oh, externalize it
Speaker 6: like you were saying with the feelings. That totally makes
Speaker 6: sense to me. In a tonic way. You want, you
Speaker 6: have to cut. We call it chuld in Tibetan. So
Speaker 6: it's like the cutting practice. You cut all the karmic
Speaker 6: sort of implications of before you let everyone go. That
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you don't love people, That doesn't mean you
Speaker 6: don't have a family or anything like That just means
Speaker 6: for that moment, you just let it go, and it's
Speaker 6: hard and.
Speaker 2: You have to do it.
Speaker 6: But if you do it, don't do it like you said, Megan,
Speaker 6: you get pulled back in. So I knew exactly what
Speaker 6: you're talking about. It makes total sense to me. It
Speaker 6: is just a different way to describe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there was a question that just popped up
Speaker 3: before that. Can you read that, Nick, And I'll answer that,
Speaker 3: would you feel something sinister? The thought of being sinister
Speaker 3: or not was in your brain already. Okay, So you
Speaker 3: got to think about what's in your subconscious mind. Everything
Speaker 3: that gets repressed in your subconscious mind, all of your fears,
Speaker 3: your emotions, your trauma gets stumped in your subconscious mind.
Speaker 3: When you dream, these things come out in your personal
Speaker 3: dimensional space, and you're actually creating these beings. Now, if
Speaker 3: you're focused on it, yeah, it will come out that way.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times we're unconscious of all of
Speaker 3: these things that will come out that we do see,
Speaker 3: and you could even see them with your waking eyes.
Speaker 3: I've even seen things like this in my waking time
Speaker 3: that I've created myself, that I've pushed out in my
Speaker 3: own dimensional space while I'm awake. So basically, most of
Speaker 3: the things that are sinister that you see, they are
Speaker 3: a mirror. They are showing you an aspect of yourself
Speaker 3: that you need to work on. Okay, So even if
Speaker 3: it's in your brain or it's not in your brain,
Speaker 3: I mean there are attachments, there are things, entities that
Speaker 3: do come in. I'm not saying they don't exist, but
Speaker 3: probably about ninety percent of the things that you see
Speaker 3: you've created yourself through your own personal dimensional space. And
Speaker 3: I've seen them both ways and sleep prolyssies and dreams
Speaker 3: and with my waking eyes. I hope that answers your question.
Speaker 1: I agree also, no, go ahead and finish.
Speaker 6: I just agree that it's all it's mostly most things
Speaker 6: are manifestations of consciousness. Whether it's awaking consciousness or subconsciousness.
Speaker 2: So yeah, start with your own mind number one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: want to have these experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So like thought forms also, eggergre's your thought
Speaker 3: forms you create every time you think about something, you
Speaker 3: were actually creating a thought form in the etheric, so
Speaker 3: you're probably interacting with it, and you're interacting with other
Speaker 3: people's thought forms as well. So this goes into energy
Speaker 3: manipulation and and you know the paranormal and all that
Speaker 3: stuff too. But but yeah, absolutely, you're you're you're interacting
Speaker 3: with thought forms too. This is cool. Does anybody else
Speaker 3: have any questions about that? Because this is my room.
Speaker 4: Something I have thought about with the brain. I do
Speaker 4: think it's quite possible that that's where some of the.
Speaker 1: Demons really are in our brain.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, like when they show like brain
Speaker 4: activity on people and it's like normal, and then when
Speaker 4: they show different people's brain activity. I think that when
Speaker 4: different parts of the brain get lit up, you'll deal
Speaker 4: with different demons and different intelligences and different angels in
Speaker 4: a sense.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, depending on where your consciousness is. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely absolutely, it's becoming aware of these things. If dealing
Speaker 3: with these things will stop, the negative experiences. So a
Speaker 3: lot of people just get so freaked out and they
Speaker 3: don't know where it's coming from. But if you start
Speaker 3: doing the work on yourself and expanding your awareness and
Speaker 3: working through the shadow work and the trauma and the fear,
Speaker 3: it will stop manifesting everywhere you look, especially in your
Speaker 3: sleep time, causing sleep prousses, night terrors, sleepwalking, all all
Speaker 3: the dark things that you see and feel, these things
Speaker 3: will start to dissipate. I could speak from personal experience, right.
Speaker 3: I haven't had a bad experience in a couple of
Speaker 3: years because of all the work that I've been doing.
Speaker 1: Lisa, is there anything that you love that number one?
Speaker 5: It's all super interesting? Yeah, no, it's all really really good.
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed that presentation.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you, thank you. I feel bad it was
Speaker 3: a little bit short. I thought we were gonna it
Speaker 3: was going to go a little bit longer. But I
Speaker 3: hope you guys enjoyed it. I just thought it was
Speaker 3: super interesting. Something to chew on, something to look at,
Speaker 3: something to think about, something to go down. If you
Speaker 3: guys are interested about the nature reality and how it
Speaker 3: ties into us as human beings, how we operate in
Speaker 3: this world, how how we are astrology like down to
Speaker 3: our bodies.
Speaker 4: I will say, I will look at those those disk
Speaker 4: images way different.
Speaker 3: Now mm hmm. Yeah, I looked at him. When I
Speaker 3: noticed it, I was like, oh my god, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's totally everywhere. So because I mean, you know, all
Speaker 3: the all the shows we've done previously before, you know,
Speaker 3: like on the Arbitel and the Pika tricks and all,
Speaker 3: and it's like you're looking at all these things and
Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, they're mapping this all out too.
Speaker 3: You just have to know how to see with the
Speaker 3: right eyes, you know. Once you know this stuff, it's
Speaker 3: like whoa, that makes sense and you just you can't
Speaker 3: unsee it. So and then the saving ties into Jamatria,
Speaker 3: and I mean I could have went down a million
Speaker 3: different you know roads with this, but I was just
Speaker 3: kind of given everybody like an introduction on kind of
Speaker 3: like a taste. So I hope you guys really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: You got me sitting here thinking about like ringed images now,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what else is like that? I can't
Speaker 1: think of it. Yeah, so many of them they just
Speaker 1: don't even realize.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hope I've sparked some some conks, some
Speaker 3: consciousness and some people into.
Speaker 1: I like the cone in the flat when thing right there.
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense to me with how
Speaker 1: I look at things coming in and out of existence.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And we're and we're interacting with it all
Speaker 3: the time. So the second realm is the interdimensional realm
Speaker 3: of the celestial realm. That's where all you know, the
Speaker 3: e t races are. They're just right above ours. That's
Speaker 3: why we can see them popping in and out. They're
Speaker 3: just right there realm too.
Speaker 1: That's where iowas and Lamba is chilling.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I'm sure he does, all right, All right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: Well, is there any questions in the chat.
Speaker 3: That questions love answering questions.
Speaker 6: I just want to shout out that Cassandra is in
Speaker 6: there from the Lodge, from the Gray Lodge, and she
Speaker 6: did actually have an interesting point about sleeping with her
Speaker 6: cat and her cat appearing in dreams. This has actually
Speaker 6: happened to me, but it has depended on which cat
Speaker 6: it is. So I think maybe that there's an impetus
Speaker 6: some of the cats, like some cats maybe are able
Speaker 6: to come with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they come out of their body just like we do. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: they actually will help us. I think actually help us
Speaker 3: come out.
Speaker 1: I think they get bored here, like I'm going somewhere
Speaker 1: else with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Were they asking you for food in the other realm
Speaker 4: when when they were with you?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 6: But he was always getting in trouble, like I always
Speaker 6: had to rest in him.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt in.
Speaker 3: The dream he was he was hinting to you that
Speaker 3: that he wants more attention.
Speaker 1: I suppose I looked down at it.
Speaker 4: There's my cats, smack at its bowle, like, come on,
Speaker 4: it's empty cats.
Speaker 1: Gotta love them. Man.
Speaker 4: Well, I was like, yeah, I was it a They
Speaker 4: kept knocking it off the table and I was trying
Speaker 4: to catch it.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: That's uh, I guess that's enough. Thank you very much, Megan.
Speaker 4: Like I said.
Speaker 1: That, that definitely has me.
Speaker 4: I definitely want to looking at these images next time
Speaker 4: I see him, like at it in a different angle from.
Speaker 1: The way you were talking about it. Hopefully something up
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, thank well, thanks for having me on. I
Speaker 3: appreciate you. I'm so glad I got to hang out
Speaker 3: with you. Guys again, looking forward to more episodes.
Speaker 4: No for sure, for sure, before I wrap it up,
Speaker 4: we'll have everybody plug that stuff again real quick.
Speaker 1: Lisa, what is going on?
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for coming on, and that was
Speaker 5: a really great presentation. Lots of seeds, food for thought.
Speaker 3: Sure, thank you, Thank you, Lisa. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Of course. Yeah. I never thought of it all like that,
Speaker 5: so thank you for that. The only thing to plug
Speaker 5: is Solese Lisa at Twitter.
Speaker 1: Listen, thank you very much, thank you, and Jin the
Speaker 1: Ninja what is going on?
Speaker 2: So thank you so much. Thank you, Lisa, thank you, Magan,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 6: Of course, Nick, you want to follow me, the best
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Speaker 6: which is Mamara Solar Exile, Joshua the Branch, all of
Speaker 6: whom have been on the show. So thank you, Nick.
Speaker 6: I mean I didn't get I didn't get Joshua booked.
Speaker 6: Let me just be very clear about that, but I
Speaker 6: appreciate that you've always entertained like my crew.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I asked this kid to come
Speaker 4: off with Abalay like brought half his lotch yet it
Speaker 4: was almost a little thing like you do.
Speaker 1: That on Purcus. I was like, who's the real magician?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: They make me look smart because they're smart. That's the truth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know we want we ride together?
Speaker 1: That the same thing I do. Yeah, the show, I
Speaker 1: get it. No, honestly, I think it's got this.
Speaker 4: It just it's made the series get better as we've
Speaker 4: gone long, so definitely look forward.
Speaker 1: They're doing another one of those with you guys as well,
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah and real and let again and let everybody know
Speaker 4: again Megan, what's up?
Speaker 1: Where they can find all your new stuff too? Please? Y?
Speaker 3: I changed the name on my Instagram so I used
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Speaker 3: and I would really, really really appreciate it if you
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Speaker 4: Thank you, and all her links are in the bottom now,
Speaker 4: so go check that stuff out.
Speaker 1: Thank you all again.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you Lisa, and I appreciate you Jin jumping on,
Speaker 4: and again Megan, I appreciate you bringing the slide show.
Speaker 1: That's what's up.
Speaker 4: Thank you everybody who jumped in on the chat. That's
Speaker 4: what's up, so a lot of the same people. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in about another hour, will be going live with Headless
Speaker 4: two for a sigil and mail bag, so check that out.
Speaker 4: And then again tonight fucking crazy nine o'clock tonight Robbie
Speaker 4: Marx Storytime with Robbie Marx, so check it out if
Speaker 4: you're up to it. Again, Thank you, Megan, and thank
Speaker 4: you everybody in the chat and the other rejects and them,
Speaker 4: and until the next one, everybody be well.
Speaker 1: Later,