WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:03.919 All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:07.919 a five seventy LA Sports. Kind of odd because we're 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:10.640 actually doing a full show today, but that's the way 4 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:12.759 it goes. When the Dodgers are home, they are back 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:16.079 in town. They'll take on the Cubs, they'll take on 6 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:19.960 the Rockies, and Yamamoto will go for the Dodgers tonight, 7 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:23.559 said Zaki will go for the Dodgers tomorrow. Both of 8 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:26.679 those pitchers have already seen the Cubs this year in Tokyo. 9 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:29.800 And it's I think good for the Dodgers to be back. 10 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:32.079 I think give them what happened on the East coast, 11 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.079 it was just a blur and now they're back. And 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.600 back with them is our good friend David Vassy, who's 13 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:41.399 at the stadium. Welcome home, Dave. Good afternoon. 14 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.960 Oh it's so great to be back in LA. 15 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:46.520 It was a not. 16 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.280 Fun road trip for the Dodgers record wise, and certainly 17 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.920 not fun to have to try to function in thirty 18 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.079 six degree type weather. So very happy to be back, 19 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.880 and conditions will be much better for Tis now when 20 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:02.799 he pitches on Sunday Night baseball. 21 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.719 Oh yeah, I can't wait for that, Dave. But yeah, 22 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.280 and I I kind of mentioned Dave that that yes 23 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.359 it was. It was. First of all, it was cold 24 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.480 back there. They were on a trip, and it just 25 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.159 looked from afar like they might have been a little 26 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.680 fatigue from you know, the start of the season, the 27 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:27.079 spring training, going to Japan, all the things that are happening, 28 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.840 and and then winning games like they did to start 29 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.359 the season. It just felt like there was a little 30 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:36.519 fatigue factor when they went back to Philadelphia in to Washington. 31 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.000 Did you feel that at all or were it just 32 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:42.040 they just didn't play well? Well? 33 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.159 I think number one, they just didn't play well. But 34 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.400 that comes from maybe what you're talking about, Rodney, where 35 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:52.120 there's some sort of emotional letdown after the whirlwind of 36 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.439 the start of the season, coming into spring training early 37 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.200 as world champions, then going to Tokyo with the Otani 38 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:03.719 World Tour, then coming back home and obviously everybody's celebrating 39 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.480 you with the ring ceremony and everything that goes along 40 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.719 with it. So I feel like for the position players, 41 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:13.800 maybe there's something to that. But still, when you take 42 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.639 a step back, it could have been overcome by better 43 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.560 starting pitching. Because Dustin Man and Yamamoto were the only 44 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:24.599 two guys on that six game trip that actually gave 45 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.800 the bullpens some support. Outside of that, you had guys 46 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.280 going two or three innings. Sazaki went four plus He's 47 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.240 a work in progress. We understand that. But if they 48 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.520 would have got better starting pitching, they certainly would have 49 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:39.400 had a better trip. 50 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.520 Yeah. I was surprised overall watching Dave that they would 51 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.639 fall behind so so often, and it was just and 52 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:48.879 of course they than not. 53 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.439 The Dodgers have more come from behind victories than any 54 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.120 other team in baseball, and it just felt like they 55 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.360 were from the first inning on and the first three 56 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.919 innings playing from behind and scoring four runs in that 57 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.960 last game certainly was a big reason why they won 58 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.199 that last game in Washington, d C. 59 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.039 Yeah. I mean, but that's that's been there, Like you said, 60 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.280 that's their mo has been coming from behind, and that's 61 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.879 sometimes that that is a little bit taxing. You mentioned 62 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:25.520 the starting pitching Dave and other in Dustin May. Is 63 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.319 that a concern or is it just something that you've 64 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.159 that they just chalk it up to the road trip 65 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.680 and they'll get it back on track. 66 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.919 I think overall they have enough talent to be able 67 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.039 to get back on track. But if you look at it, 68 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:42.520 the last two games in DC, Blake Snell was supposed 69 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.240 to start the night Robleski gave up eight runs. He's 70 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.680 on the I L and whenever you're talking about shoulder, 71 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.520 you know you can't just dismiss that. So you hope 72 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.280 that he's able to come back after missing a couple 73 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.319 of starts. Landon Knack's going to be better. You would 74 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.000 think he's probably going to get us start next week 75 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.840 against the Rockies. But the guy tonight is the anchor 76 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.960 of the staff, and I feel like he's not getting 77 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.680 enough attention. I picked him to win the nl Cy 78 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.120 young Maybe that's why I'm singing his praises. But he 79 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.879 has backed up all my talks so far in the 80 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.879 first three starts that he's had, and Yamamoto and Dustin 81 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.120 may have been the two best starters the Dodgers have 82 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:22.920 had so far. 83 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.759 Update Andy Pye has so you know, and Jack Harris 84 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.120 just wrote it seems the club is pleased that he's 85 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.680 coming out of whatever he was going through, and the 86 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.800 Dodgers are really patient with everybody. But just give them 87 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:40.800 the way things started. Was there a possibility in your 88 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:42.040 mind they could have sent him down. 89 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.920 Yeah, I think there's always that possibility, but the Dodgers 90 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.120 don't make decisions. After thirteen games. He needed to get better. 91 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:54.199 And when I say better doesn't mean hitting home runs. 92 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.680 The Dodgers eight to nine hitters have been getting on 93 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.279 at a three hundred clip. That's not something that is 94 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:05.399 sustainable for the Dodgers. They're going to look to upgrade that, 95 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.600 whether it's from within or outside if it continues, because 96 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.879 last year it was such a big part of turning 97 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.399 the lineup over for Otani, Bets and Freeman, and so 98 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.439 far we haven't seen that consistently. And Paz understands what 99 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.879 his job is is to see pitches when he's sitting 100 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.879 ninth and to get on base, not necessarily to hit 101 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.720 home runs. And as far as the defense goes, if 102 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.360 you look at the metrics, he's a below par center 103 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.720 fielder and that's not his best position. He's a corner 104 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:37.920 outfielder and he's trying to get better playing that position. 105 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.639 So there's a lot of moving parts right now that 106 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:46.040 I feel makes this Dodger team a little unsettled with 107 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.399 the way they've lined up their defense. 108 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.439 Dave. I mean, look, they're ten and four coming back home, 109 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.680 you know, and the Padres are off to a good start. 110 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.639 The Giants are off to a good star. A lot 111 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.439 of people believe that the Diamondbacks would be there in 112 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:07.120 the end as well. When you look at this division, 113 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.360 a lot of people are saying this might be the 114 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.160 best division in baseball right now. Who do you feel 115 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.600 like is going to be the Dodgers' biggest threat as 116 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.160 the season progresses. 117 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.160 Well, if the Padres stay healthy, I think they are. 118 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.480 But if you're talking about a team that could be 119 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:28.600 a formidable challenge in the postseason, especially a seven game series, 120 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.040 it would be the Phillies just by the mere fact. 121 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.480 Look at the record. The Phillies have beaten the Dodgers 122 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.360 nine out of the last eleven times they have faced 123 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.759 each other. Their starting pitchings are really good. They have 124 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.279 the offense that could slug with the Dodgers. So even 125 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.879 last year, you know, talking a buster only on the 126 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.360 Dodger Talk off Day show yesterday, we all forget for 127 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:52.959 the majority of the season last year the Phillies were 128 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.680 considered the best team in baseball. They just have that 129 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.800 all or nothing type of offense that went got upset 130 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.639 by the Mets. In a short series the Dodgers, I 131 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.800 know strangers to that. So to me, it's the Padres 132 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.800 or Phillies that are the toughest matchup for the Dodgers, Dave. 133 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.120 When you don't have them, sometimes you don't think about them. 134 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.839 What Freddy Freeman is back tonight? How much of a difference. 135 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.800 I'm the only guy that has Dave Roberts on the 136 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.480 road trip about Freddie Freeman. How could anybody just dismiss 137 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:26.600 his absence? But he's back tonight. It's his bubblehead night 138 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.120 for the walk off grand slamming Game one of the 139 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:33.199 World Series last year. And if anybody's listening that is 140 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.759 trying to get in line at Dodgers Stadium tonight, take 141 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.879 a deep breath at sale. Everybody will get one. As 142 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.920 I was coming in today at one forty five, fans 143 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:47.399 were lined up on the sidewalk. Cars were parked outside 144 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:52.279 of the gates. Stop panicking. The Dodgers understand the demand. 145 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.800 That's why everybody is going to get a bobblehead tonight, 146 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.720 not just the first for fans. 147 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:04.639 I love it, Dave Day, Dave so far what by 148 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:09.079 the way, not goldy, Dave, You keep it real, man, 149 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.040 That's what I love about you, Dave. What's so far 150 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:17.079 in this early Dodger season? What first of all, what 151 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.519 has impressed you about this season so far in this. 152 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:25.279 Team the same thing that impressed me during the playoffs 153 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:30.399 last year. Their bullpen. Their bullpen has been unbelievable. They've 154 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.440 really picked up the slack where the starters really have 155 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.679 fallen short, and not just one or two games, but 156 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.159 multiple games. If you look at the innings pitched, the 157 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.000 Dodger bullpen has pitched more innings than the Dodgers starters 158 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.960 have through the first thirteen games of the season. So 159 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:51.360 for me, the bullpen has been the shining light of 160 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.840 this early part of the season. The Dodgers would not 161 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.080 be ten and four without as well as the bullpen 162 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.879 is pitched and position player wise, the two most consistent 163 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:06.559 and difference maker players consistently have been Tommy Edmund and 164 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:08.039 ta Oscar Hernandez. 165 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:12.320 All Right, Dave, six o'clock, the pre game, the game 166 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.559 at seven ten, Do you know who your a pregame 167 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:15.600 guest is gonna be yet? 168 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.720 Yeah, we're gonna catch up with Freddy Freeman, so you'll 169 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.320 hear from him on the pregame show. 170 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.720 Nice all right, Dave, thanks for jumping on. Have a 171 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:28.399 good weekend you two guys. Thanks all right. You see, 172 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.519 that's who David Vassay is. That's who Ddy Freeman comes 173 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:37.279 back tonight, He's back. It's his bobblehead night. Who's Dave's guest, 174 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.559 Freddie Freeman boom? He is the authority? You know what 175 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.320 I love? Honestly, if you check the blogs and you 176 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:50.320 read stuff, everybody's trying to grab information and post things. 177 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.559 And in fantasy sports, for example, you know, is your 178 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.679 guy gonna play? Is he not gonna play? Do you 179 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.159 know when it comes to the Dodgers. I think nationally 180 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:05.720 nobody is as a source more than David Vassy nobody. 181 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.799 It's he's always breaking the story first. He always has 182 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:15.039 the information first. He's always credited all over the country. 183 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.759 Well, unfortunately, Fred there are times he's not credited and 184 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.519 they just take a quote or take a bite that 185 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.039 he got from someone and just amalgamate it and don't 186 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:25.360 even source it back to him, which is terrible because 187 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.799 he gets. Most of these are exclusives that Dave only gets. 188 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.000 There's a lot of these sites. I won't name any 189 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.240 of them, but they know who they are who take 190 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.159 things so I ever said on this radio station and 191 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.720 amalgamate them and don't give us credit, and more specifically, 192 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:39.919 don't give Dave credit. It's messed up. 193 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.519 Well look, I mean I can appreciate Dave's anger, but 194 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.559 I'm really pissed now because even if I didn't say it, 195 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.080 I want the credit nationally, very true, because it's on 196 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:51.639 the radio stations, right we should hear credit. But the 197 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.159 truth is, I mean, David is the best at what 198 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:58.320 he does. He's the guy that breaks everything. Listening right now, 199 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.679 I don't think you know how how lucky you are 200 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:02.919 to have a guy like him. If somebody has done 201 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.600 this business for as long as I have, there are 202 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.120 a few guys as good as Dave, breaking stories all 203 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.360 over it and just brutally honest. So of course he'd 204 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.960 have Freddie Freeman tonight. You would expect nothing less from Dave. 205 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:25.919 Of course, some guys just don't learn. They just don't learn. 206 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:39.960 And that's next, all. 207 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:44.919 Right, fred Rogan, Rodney Pete La Sports. Big game for 208 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:49.360 the Lakers tonight. Here's the bottom line. Beat Houston, beat Portland. 209 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.480 Then you've got the third seed in the West. Beat 210 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.440 them both, no problem, and that's probably where they'll end up. 211 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:58.320 Then the question becomes who are they going to open 212 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.559 the playoffs against? That at this time is undecided given 213 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.799 the way things are, But I think for the Lakers 214 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.240 overall to finish third in the conference. Be honest, and 215 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.039 if you're a Laker fan and you fly the flags 216 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:15.000 and you wear the jersey, you can't tell me you 217 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.840 really thought that would happen. I didn't. I thought maybe 218 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.120 maybe sick certainly the playing. But they have done it. 219 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.120 They have done it, and the question now becomes who 220 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:32.000 will they play. Will it be Golden State, Will it 221 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:36.720 be the Clippers, Could it be Memphis? I guess if 222 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:40.080 Denver go sideways, it could be them. So you really 223 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.840 don't know. So these last two games, I don't think 224 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.000 Houston's going to play anybody. They've got the second seat 225 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.840 all wrapped up. They're locked in. Yeah, so why would 226 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:53.120 you even risk it? Just let that be. So we 227 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.480 don't know who the Lakers are going to end up playing. 228 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:00.399 There's a possibility, depending on how it shakes out, they 229 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:03.360 could meet the Clippers in the first round. That might 230 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.279 be more of a battle than people think. Clippers have 231 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.720 a very good roster. They have been hot of late. 232 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:10.720 They have played good defense. Lakers ooh, when they play 233 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:15.120 good defense are really tough. So that is a distinct possibility. 234 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:19.799 And Memphis is still lurking. Memphis is seven right now, 235 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.559 but they are tied with Golden State. Golden State owns 236 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.320 the tide break, so we're not sure. We're not sure. 237 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.240 But on the topic of Memphis, I don't understand something, 238 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.039 and maybe Rodney you can set me straight on this. 239 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.799 If you have a job, a very well paying job, 240 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:43.000 and you do something that your employer considers embarrassing so 241 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.039 much so they have a conversation with you about it, 242 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:51.639 you tell them it won't happen again. It happens again. 243 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:57.960 Now they suspend you for a while, they're taking your money. 244 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.840 You come back and you tell them I got it. 245 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:04.159 You know, I'm no fool. I've got it. 246 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:04.440 Now. 247 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.639 Thank you for allowing me to work through this. I understand. 248 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:14.320 Then you go and you didn't do something as egregious 249 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.960 as you did the first time, but certainly it's it's 250 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.519 in the vicinity of the same kind of thing. Okay, 251 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:25.159 So they warn you and they go, look, don't do 252 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:28.759 that either. So then you come back and do that again. 253 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.480 Then they find you, yes, and you go, no, I 254 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.200 won't do that again. Then you come back and you 255 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:43.519 try something else that's in the ballpark of what you did. 256 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.200 I don't understand John Morant, I don't get it. So 257 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:55.320 incredibly talented, so wonderful to watch, and seemingly from afar. 258 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.840 Just a really nice guy. He seems happy, he seems fun, 259 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.759 and he's certainly a ton of fun to watch. He 260 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:06.639 puts people in the seats. Okay, we know what happened 261 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:11.759 with him. The gun incident. The leak talks to him. 262 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:18.600 He gets it. Yes, the gun incident. The league suspends him. 263 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:23.639 He understands it. Then he's like doing the fingers, the 264 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.639 finger guns, Pa, pa, po, I got you. The league 265 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:31.000 tells him, don't do that. He gets it. He goes 266 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.799 back out and he does the same thing with finger guns. 267 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:40.919 They find him. He gets it. Now he's throwing hand grenades. Yeah, 268 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.200 now he's like throwing hand grenades. What what am I missing? 269 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.480 Or what is he missing? Why would you go back 270 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:56.240 to something like that again? That is intentional, That is calculated. 271 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:02.360 They've told you don't do that. It's not good for 272 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.519 the league, for the image, and certainly more importantly, it's 273 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.679 not good for you. And he does it again. Now 274 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.320 he's doing that. Am I missing it? Or is he 275 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:15.000 not getting it? 276 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:20.399 He's not getting it. He is absolutely not getting it. 277 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:28.200 I don't understand either. You're in a privileged situation and 278 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.960 they've warned you. They've basically they've let you get away 279 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.200 with it, is what they've done. They've let you get 280 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.120 away with it. And maybe they enabled him to keep 281 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:43.279 doing certain things without dropping a hammer harder, but they've 282 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:50.759 enabled him to do it, and he is just I 283 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.639 don't understand it either. How many warnings do you have 284 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.519 to have? And is what kind of mentality you have 285 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:01.080 to have? First of all, not do the gun thing. 286 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.879 First of all, you're you're you're in the NBA. Why 287 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.759 do you get well, First of all, you don't need 288 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.559 to carry guns, and if you get caught, then you 289 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:09.279 don't need to do it again and again and again. 290 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.640 And then to do the symbolism of pointing the fingers 291 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:17.559 as a gun at he pointed at the bench of somebody, 292 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.240 I forget who they're playing, and and then can and 293 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.319 then they tell you not to do it, you get 294 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:25.720 fined for it, and you do it again, and then 295 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.279 instead of doing the guns. Once you they tell you 296 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.559 not to do, you do a grenade. I mean, I 297 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.119 don't know. I don't know the mentality. I don't I 298 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.000 don't get it. I don't understand. Is he trying to 299 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.480 get kicked out of the league and get banned from 300 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:44.880 the league. He's such a talented player, But is he trying. 301 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:49.880 It's like he is absolutely trying. All the patients of 302 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.720 Adam Silver in the league. He does not have to 303 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:56.599 kick him out. He doesn't get it. 304 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:01.400 It's this odd, bizarre sense of entitlement that he can 305 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.400 do whatever he wants and it doesn't matter if it's 306 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:07.720 bad for the league's image. And you know, well who 307 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.079 cares about the league's image? Oh no, that's all the 308 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.200 league cares about. That's the only thing you sell is 309 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.839 who you are and how you are perceived. And if 310 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.000 we've told you not to do that because it makes 311 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:24.720 you look bad, well apparently you're bigger than anything or everyone, 312 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.960 so you'll do whatever you want. Okay, now we're telling 313 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.160 you don't do it because it makes us look bad. 314 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.799 It's bad for us, it's bad for business. It's not funny, 315 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:42.720 it's not cute. People aren't going to say, Oh man jah, 316 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:47.400 you know he goes against the grain. No, what is 317 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:52.200 going to happen at some point, because I'm sure they'll 318 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.400 tell him, don't do that. There's gonna be a point 319 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.160 where they're going to say, and that is it. You 320 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:05.720 can understand. We are gonna sit you, yep, where you're 321 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:10.319 going to be done. Sorry for the Grizzlies franchise, Sorry 322 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.319 for you, but you're not getting it. And it's not 323 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.759 like they're asking him. Here's what we need you to do. 324 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:17.880 I mean to make this good. We need you to 325 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.559 scale the matter horn. We need you to swim the 326 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.799 English channel. We need you not to eat for forty 327 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:31.640 days and forty nights. No one's telling him that. No 328 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.400 one's telling him, hey, you better be in bed every 329 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:38.240 night at seven point thirty, mister, or you're grounded. Nobody's 330 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:40.920 telling him that. Now what are they saying to him? 331 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:48.599 Stop with guns, stop with violence, Stop acting like you're 332 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:53.480 throwing a grenade. There's nothing else you can do. There 333 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.400 is nothing else you can come up with to celebrate nothing. 334 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.200 There is nothing on the planet that you can come 335 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.839 up with to indicate you got the other team or 336 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.400 you made a great play. Nothing the only symbols that 337 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:17.799 anyone ever use are guns and grenades. That's it. I mean, obviously, 338 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.680 since everybody does it, it's very difficult for him to change. 339 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:28.519 Although I don't see anyone else doing that, No one. 340 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:32.240 I've not seen Larry Bird throw a grenade. I didn't 341 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:38.000 see that, Magic Pa, gotcha. I didn't see that. No, 342 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:42.920 I don't remember Cobe doing that. No, I don't remember 343 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:50.759 Lebron doing that. No, why would he do that? What 344 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.039 does it take for him to understand it's bad business, 345 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:55.920 it's bad for the image of the league. 346 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.119 Yeah, it's got to be. I mean, it's at the 347 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:01.759 point where it is zero tolerance. Now. It's just like 348 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:07.839 you have crossed that line. You've crossed that line, and 349 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.039 I would not be shocked if they come down hard 350 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:16.880 on him, and probably should Otherwise he's never gonna get it. 351 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:22.319 Take away you know, the thing that you from outside 352 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:24.720 looking at and think the most important to him is 353 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:27.319 his career in playing basketball, because he's done it since 354 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.559 he was a little kid, and he's very talented at it. 355 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.960 Take that away from him, you think he would start 356 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.680 to get it. But but something else is going on 357 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:36.559 for it. Something else is going on with him that 358 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:39.960 allows him or makes him continue doing something, you know, 359 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:41.759 some of the same things. 360 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:44.240 I mean, you never want it to be like this. 361 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.240 But I don't know. Does Adam Silver call the Grizzlies 362 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:49.039 and say, you know, on you're off? They have Jah 363 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:51.720 fly in here too, on New York. We want to 364 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.480 sit down with him again, and he flies in and 365 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.240 he sits down. Adam Silver is there? League Council is there? 366 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.559 Just not Adam so League attorneys. I don't know, maybe 367 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.039 his agents there too. What's that conversation? 368 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:06.279 Like? 369 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:09.240 Okay, John, listen, you know we talked about you having 370 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:11.720 a real gun. You still had one, all right. Then 371 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.000 we find you and we suspended you, and you promise 372 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.880 you wouldn't do that anymore. You got it? Yeah, Okay, 373 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.839 Now you're doing like finger guns, which is a symbol 374 00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:22.599 of the real gun. So we told you to stop 375 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.960 doing that. But then you did it again and we 376 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.319 find you. Okay, but then you decided you wouldn't do that. 377 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:35.359 So now you're throwing hand grenades. Okay, you really can't 378 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:39.160 do that. So here's what we've done. Maybe it's on us, 379 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:41.599 Maybe we've done a poor job of explaining our position. 380 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:45.960 So here's ten pages of all the things you can't do. 381 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.319 We would think you would get it. We would think 382 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.599 you would understand, you would appreciate the gravity of the 383 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:57.160 situation and quite honestly get the spirit of what we're saying. 384 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:02.079 But now we have to write everything down that you 385 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:07.559 can't do. Because what happens is in real business. If 386 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.640 you're working in an office situation, you know the way 387 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.440 it works, right, Uh, you got a minute. We gotta 388 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.119 have a talk. I don't think you're performing. You know 389 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.960 you're not doing what you're supposed to do, or you 390 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.880 know you're making people uncomfortable here in the office. So 391 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.640 we have to have this conversation where hr and here. 392 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.359 We've written this. We're going to hand it to you. 393 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:35.119 We need you to sign it. It states what we 394 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.759 talked about and what our expectations are, and it says 395 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.920 if any of the things listed on this paper are continued, 396 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.880 further disciplinary action up and including termination could occur. That's 397 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.480 just how business operates. Yeah, okay, now you sign it. 398 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.880 You've signed the paper. They read it to you out loud, 399 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.480 they make you read it, you sign it. They've got 400 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.319 it in their hand. So the next time you do 401 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.119