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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the three Stories version the Todd Herman Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Story number one Axios says Trump has killed race relations

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Story number two Elon versus President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian response, And story number three The Good, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bad and the Ugly a pastoring. We'll talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of God Almighty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Todd Herman Show is one disapproved by big Pharma

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<v Speaker 2>technocorrats in Tyrn, Cebrian where from the high mountains of

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<v Speaker 2>Free America, here's the Emerald City exime Todd Herman.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the day the Lord has made, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are the times to which God has decided we shall live.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there is the Elon and Trump thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to that today. And I got to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I don't have a ton to say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I turned to God's word, because God has lots

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<v Speaker 1>to say about stuff like this, quarreling and arguing. I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a lot to say about race relations. And

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<v Speaker 1>there is a piece in Axios that's a headlined like

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<v Speaker 1>a pendulum. Pendulum, how America's racial reckoning unraveled. And guess

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<v Speaker 1>how it happened. It wasn't when Barack Hussein Obama, who

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<v Speaker 1>was trained under Sololynsky's writings, who considered Sololinsky his community

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<v Speaker 1>community organizing guru, went out to stoke racism. You know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a you gotta a weird sound of name. And

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear he's black?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And Trayvon Martin looks like my son, and the police

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<v Speaker 1>act stupidly and hispanics. You need to punish your enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that. That wasn't it. It wasn't when he brought

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter Incorporated into the White House prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the launch of that attack around the death of Michael Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>after Michael Brown tried to unalive a police officer. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. It was not when the people who ran

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden took good words like diversity and equity and

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<v Speaker 1>inclusion and made them into bad policy, full on racist policy,

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<v Speaker 1>such as denying aid to white people and creating unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>programs and government aid programs specifically for black people, or

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<v Speaker 1>the blatant racism of Harvard University doing everything they could

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<v Speaker 1>to block Asian men from getting into the schools so

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<v Speaker 1>that they could get more black men in. That wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't what Carol Swain had predicted when she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>her book about the new white supremacy. She's an academic.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to that, she was a pretty a political academic.

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<v Speaker 1>She simply looked at the ctity, what's causing this? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is there a resurgence? What she determined was because of

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<v Speaker 1>the racism of DEI type programs. But no, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not that it's Trump axios. This is part of the peace.

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<v Speaker 1>The America that marched for George Floyd five years ago

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<v Speaker 1>is gone very beneath a blackclash that has hardened for

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<v Speaker 1>now into a new political and cultural order. Why it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd's murder by Minneapolis police officer shocked the national conscience,

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<v Speaker 1>But what looked like historic momentum for racial justice has collapsed,

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<v Speaker 1>the eclipsed by a reactionary movement backed by the full

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<v Speaker 1>force of the US government. Still, activists aren't giving up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're recharging and refocusing their efforts, shifting from mass protests

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<v Speaker 1>to defending what remains, implanting the seeds of what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>The fight has moved from the streets to the margins,

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<v Speaker 1>in courtrooms and classrooms, in city council's. A quieter form

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<v Speaker 1>of resistance is taking shape out of the spotlight, but

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<v Speaker 1>no less determined, just pausing. There was at no time

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<v Speaker 1>a nation that marched for George Floyd. That never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>There were people who march for what they thought was

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd, a nation that did not understand and still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, does not understand that George Floyd, at

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<v Speaker 1>best participated in his death, at worst caused it. As

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<v Speaker 1>we now know, there was no collapse of the airway.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Chauvin did not collapse the airway of George Floyd. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I hated that video. That was one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>awful things I've ever watched in my life. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>just like many of the bystanders saying, do something, get

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<v Speaker 1>him off that hot payment pavement, pick him up, cool

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<v Speaker 1>him down, do something. And the jury has delivered a

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<v Speaker 1>response and Derek Chauvin is still in prison. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was never a time when the nation march for George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 1>and those people who did did not understand that George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd was a very, very violent man. Now there are

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<v Speaker 1>statues of George Floyd, a man who famously held a

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<v Speaker 1>weapon to the belly of a pregnant woman. So that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. It wasn't a nation, and it wasn't about

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd. It was about the vision, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>DEI has been used for. It's been used as a cudgel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been used to tell white people you are oppressors.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what you do, you cannot be on racist.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be anti racist, which means you have

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<v Speaker 1>to fashion in yourself some form of anti white sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in media companies where we've had race based

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<v Speaker 1>struggle sessions and I was the one person who asked

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<v Speaker 1>during a meeting, Hey, what's black privilege? And the trainer

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like that at all. She said, well, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as black privilege. I said, no, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's white privilege, there's black privilege. She didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She also didn't like when I raised my hand and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when's it my turn to present? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>This is my presentation? Well, equity, Well I'm a trained

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<v Speaker 1>presenter on this topic. Well, you know what, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>all start at the same place, so I should have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to present. It all breaks down back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Axios piece that contends President Trump is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that race relations, in their eyes, have gotten worse five

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<v Speaker 1>years later, the pendulum has swung hard in the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>direction DEI. On his first day in office, President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>ordered a government wide purge of DEI programs and offices,

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<v Speaker 1>the opening sovognist systemic efforts dismantle the racial justice agenda

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<v Speaker 1>that emerged in twenty twenty. This was not justice. Giving

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<v Speaker 1>people jobs based upon race is not racial justice. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the opposite of racial justice. It is racial injustice.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, in fact, racism. Civil rights. The Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>has moved aggressively to unravel President Lynnon Johnson's civil rights legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>including by rearenting DOJ parties to focus on anti white racism,

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<v Speaker 1>which they put in quotes because of course it can't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Johnson who said, in a disgusting way, put

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<v Speaker 1>together enough government programs, give black people enough government money's

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<v Speaker 1>break up black families, and you'll have black America eating

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<v Speaker 1>out of his hands. Only he didn't say the word black.

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<v Speaker 1>He used a word I don't use, and you probably

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<v Speaker 1>don't either. History. Trump ordered a federal view of Confederate

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<v Speaker 1>monuments toppled during the twenty twenty protests, targeting what he

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<v Speaker 1>called a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our nation's history.

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<v Speaker 1>What he called the Civil War was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bloodiest wars in history, and part of the reason it

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<v Speaker 1>was fought, perhaps the main reason, was over the topic

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<v Speaker 1>of slavery. The Confederate monuments are history. Those were historical figures,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I see them, I hate them. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand driving by him. When I see him, it reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of an uncomfortable past. I like that. I like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a statue that brings that back, because a nation

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<v Speaker 1>that erases its history is erasing its future. If we

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<v Speaker 1>can't regard the things of the past and the mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>then we are going to be more prone to remake

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<v Speaker 1>those mistakes. Police reform. Days before the anniversary of Floyd's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department scrapped proposed consent decrees for the Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>and Louisville police departments and drop nearly a dozen other

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<v Speaker 1>investigations into alleged police abuse. These consent decrees were used

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<v Speaker 1>to d police cities. If you want to see the

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<v Speaker 1>fruits of these consent decrees, look at Seattle, where it

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<v Speaker 1>is legal to vandalize a building, to break into a building,

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<v Speaker 1>to use drugs, to traffic people, and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate defense in court to come in and say I'm sad,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a depression issue, I have a drug issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Where illegal immigrants will not be charged with dois because

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<v Speaker 1>they can then be targeted for removal by the FEDS.

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<v Speaker 1>These consent decrees were depolicing decrees and they should have

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<v Speaker 1>been canceled. Refugee policy. This is axious again pretending that

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<v Speaker 1>race relationship have suffered because of Donald John Trump in

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<v Speaker 1>the office refugee policy. The administration has effectively ended most

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<v Speaker 1>refugee programs except for one tailored to white South African farmers,

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<v Speaker 1>justified by Trump's false claim of white genocide. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that false claim that he then went on to prove

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<v Speaker 1>when he had the President of South Africa in the

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<v Speaker 1>Oval office and all the media was there, that false claim.

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<v Speaker 1>He's canceled refugee programs because like DEI, refugee programs were

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<v Speaker 1>being abused. They were being abused to bring in people

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<v Speaker 1>who weren't refugees. You are not a refugee. If you

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<v Speaker 1>come to America from Somolia and say you're scared for

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<v Speaker 1>your life, so you come here, you get all the

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<v Speaker 1>lars yes of being a refugee. You get to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred bucks a month, You get to ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars walking around money that some states give five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>some tates, and then you go to vacation in Somolia.

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<v Speaker 1>You never were a refugee. Mark Rubio makes this case

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<v Speaker 1>with Cuban so called refugees. They come here fear for

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<v Speaker 1>the life, and then they go vacation in Cuba. You

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<v Speaker 1>are not a refugee. Furthermore, USAID had used that program

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<v Speaker 1>to import people into our country who hate our values.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a good idea because you import people,

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<v Speaker 1>you import their ideas and what they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>with those ideas. And look what we've seen. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>people with those ideas go and enact bizarre, horrible forms

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<v Speaker 1>of violence against our citizens and against visitors to our country.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the Jewish diplomats, Jake Tapper is not a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who you can turn to to have honest analysis

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<v Speaker 1>of news. But Jake Tapper lets slip something about and

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<v Speaker 1>it's obvious that he's a liberal. He says he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>vote for either party, he can't stand either party. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally don't buy it. But he lets slip something in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to race relations in America. That had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with his son.

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<v Speaker 3>A left leaning podcast that He'll Remain nameless. And we

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about my kids, because I think they were

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<v Speaker 3>both people without kids. And they asked me about my son,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said he was you know, he's a football

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<v Speaker 3>player and he wants to be a policeman. And their

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<v Speaker 3>joke was about my fifteen year old son, Oh, how

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<v Speaker 3>does he feel about minorities? Like the idea that he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be a policeman, therefore he's racist my son,

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<v Speaker 3>And like you know, that was the big laugh. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I got dragged in the comments and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought to myself, this is why you are

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<v Speaker 3>losing elections. Like my football playing son, who has no

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<v Speaker 3>political views. He's fifteen. He thinks about World War two

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<v Speaker 3>and gaming and playing linebacker. That's his world.

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<v Speaker 1>He just gave it away. Now it's joke material on

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<v Speaker 1>the left. It's anybody who wants to be a cop

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<v Speaker 1>is someone who wants to go around unliving black people.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't President Trump. And by the way, this piece

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<v Speaker 1>and Axios we've been talking about where they contend that

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump has broken race relations. You've been hearing most

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<v Speaker 1>of the piece. Three people wrote it. They put three

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<v Speaker 1>people on this piece, and these are the facts that

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<v Speaker 1>can deliver facts absence of you know, fact, race relations

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<v Speaker 1>have been poisoned to the degree that people can pretend

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<v Speaker 1>to be a race Rachel Doleozol and get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But people who are of mixed race don't get what

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact a form of black privilege, as you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear in this clip this.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got into a heated argument with the woman

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<v Speaker 4>the other day that told me that I'm not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she means the N word, and incidentally, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>See this has gotten to this point, this thought policing

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<v Speaker 1>and this race policing, that there is now a new

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<v Speaker 1>litanus test for whether or not you're black. And Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden introduced that litmus test. If you didn't vote for me,

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<v Speaker 1>then you ain't black. Now that woman could in fact

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<v Speaker 1>became more radicalized. And this is the Nancy Pelosi version

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi saying, look, we love you, the camera loves you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're quick on your feet, You're not here to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>anything legislatively. You're smart, you went to one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar per year private school. But if you could be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more black, it was not President Trump who

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<v Speaker 1>broke race relations. Story number two, the dust up and

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<v Speaker 1>the probable divorce between Elon Musk and President Trump. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to disclose something to you. Sometimes a job

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle because I would be frank with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot build up some big, fake head of steam to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Trump versus Elon. I'm sad about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sad because we were this close to a win. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sad because I can see both guys points on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad because Elon Musk, a guy who goes around

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<v Speaker 1>fathering children every other week and doesn't bother to actual

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files. And I would suggest if President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to take him out, as it were, through legal systems

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<v Speaker 1>and a coup attempt, and am I judgment, Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put some lazy, poorly trained secret Service agents on

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<v Speaker 1>that selectively out and used that instead of the Russia hoax?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you you don't think they would have leaked the

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the Epstein files with President Trump in it

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<v Speaker 1>if it existed. And on the topic of Elon, in

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<v Speaker 1>his view, the guy sacrificed nearly his entire company. He

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to see his facilities burned down. He was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to see his stock destroyed, to go and use

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<v Speaker 1>tech tools to uncover massive structural fraud in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>Massive structural fraud meaning a system set up to encourage,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon and his assertion that President Trump is in the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files, David shown I had been a lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein. He wrote, I was hired to lead Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's defense as as criminal lawyer nine days before he

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<v Speaker 1>was unalived. He sought my advice for months before that

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<v Speaker 1>I can say authoritatively and equivocally and definitely he had

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<v Speaker 1>no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's of the opinion that Jeffrey died. But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say the words that a lot of people think happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Although now we hear Don Bengino saying, damn Magio saying

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't happen. So what is a Christian response to this, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is to look at what was actually

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<v Speaker 1>going on behind the rules. Are the walls of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Paulina Luna back concession. The rules commit in House

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<v Speaker 1>leadership has decided to not bring anything to the floor

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<v Speaker 1>to codify Trump's EOS or doge no code off I votes.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, no votes. Half the reason the GOP even

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<v Speaker 1>took the majority is because of Trump and Elon. Then

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<v Speaker 1>now you guys are too scared to codify. They are

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<v Speaker 1>too scared, And there's a pragmatism to this, and the

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<v Speaker 1>pragmatism is that the establishment is waiting out Trump, that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really want things to change. So how do

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<v Speaker 1>you respond to this as a Christian? Because that's my

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<v Speaker 1>concern on this. President Trump is a Christian. He talks

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<v Speaker 1>about Jesus, he prays to Jesus. I believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>developmental process of his faith. We refer to that as

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<v Speaker 1>being a baby Christian, and it is not an insult.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone starts somewhere. Elon Musk has talked about Jesus, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know the Lord and he's not a Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't expect Christian behavior out of them. But

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<v Speaker 1>we can use Christian teaching for instruction to see where

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<v Speaker 1>this is going off track and maybe why. I'll explain

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<v Speaker 1>that in the second, as we cleanse our minds for

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<v Speaker 1>just seconds. We have all sorts of choices in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>We can quarrel or not quarrel. We can fight with

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<v Speaker 1>people like Elon. We can fight with brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>or we cannot. You also have a choice on how

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<v Speaker 1>you clean your body in your hands. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>that great, big companies very commonly do not have our

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing things like making their products with slave labor

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<v Speaker 1>in China. That is not the case with a single

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<v Speaker 1>we read what causes quarrels and causes fights among you?

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<v Speaker 1>within you? You desire and you do not have, So you

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<v Speaker 1>And in that they mean you do not have because

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<v Speaker 1>that which would fulfill. We can look at Elon and

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<v Speaker 1>we can look at President Trump, and both their hearts

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<v Speaker 1>wants something. I think both met are patriots. I think

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump deeply, deeply wants to heal this country, particularly financially.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Elon Musk is truly, truly terrified that

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<v Speaker 1>the country's going bankrupt. And they're both right. They're both right,

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be fully rewarded by God. Story number three, The Good,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bad, and the Ugly of pastoring. If we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in trouble licensing style. Back in the day, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>who's produces this program, we used to do a feature

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody can make mistakes. Pastors can make mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes are some of the greatest opportunities in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to build relationships. Mistakes and errors and being wrong and

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of apologizing and then building your personality as

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<v Speaker 1>This is a pastor named John L. Hamadu of church

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<v Speaker 5>Two things that I said, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm praying, and this is what I said.

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<v Speaker 5>please be with us. I'm praying bold prayers like God

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<v Speaker 5>raise him from the deaths. I said that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>So I used to preach, when.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the answer is no. Sometimes the answer is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really tough for boys, but it was there. And this

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<v Speaker 1>has happened foreign life with young people with whom I've worked.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an opportunity to man up and to do what

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus would do, and to let God's face shine through,

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<v Speaker 1>and to not be prideful, to not just ignore a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love that moment of pastoring because it shows

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<v Speaker 1>the human frailty. The that's the good the bad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's I mean, it's bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also not a complete apology, and it's not also

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<v Speaker 1>completely bad. This guy's name is Francis Chan, and these

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<v Speaker 1>will come from protestea dot com. Such a great source.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to get him back on. David Moran, who

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<v Speaker 1>runs that. David moral who runs that. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>get him back on. Francis Chan tells Lecree that he

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<v Speaker 1>at a point would talk about having had a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>church than Jesus.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember, I remember you, like you had a megachurch

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<v Speaker 6>in southern California. You had sold crazy amounts of books.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone was doing, your Bible studies, your DVD people kids

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<v Speaker 6>DVDs are these things you watch. It's amazing, right, But

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<v Speaker 6>then one day you just said you walked away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not saying that you do that because of

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<v Speaker 6>what you're talking about, but I'm interested. I'm interested, like,

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<v Speaker 6>was it clarity, was a conviction? Was it like restlessness?

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<v Speaker 6>Like what were you processing in that time period?

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<v Speaker 7>There were a few things. I remember one night telling

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<v Speaker 7>my wife because I had a church in see Me

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<v Speaker 7>Valley And one night I just looked at her and

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<v Speaker 7>I thought, came, mago, honey. I feel like if the

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<v Speaker 7>Apostle Paul or Jesus had a church in see Me Valley,

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<v Speaker 7>mine would be bigger. And that is bothering me. I

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<v Speaker 7>would have a bigger church than Jesus because I know

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<v Speaker 7>how to keep a crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>And so you start realizing, well, am I really being

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<v Speaker 7>like Christ? And then as I'm looking in the scriptures

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm looking at okay, what's commanded? Like if God

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<v Speaker 7>could have anything of a church, what is the main

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<v Speaker 7>thing in scripture? And there was such an emphasis in

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<v Speaker 7>the New Testament on loving one another as much as

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<v Speaker 7>Christ love us. That's how much like, like, do I

456
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<v Speaker 7>really care about you? Like genuinely? It's great, we can

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<v Speaker 7>be a show, we can be friends, we give each

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<v Speaker 7>other a hug, see in five years, But do I

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<v Speaker 7>really genuinely love you like Jesus love the church to

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<v Speaker 7>where I go look anything, I'll give you the shirt

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<v Speaker 7>off my back, whatever you need, Like that's what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I'm like, that's not what I created. I

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<v Speaker 7>got a bunch of people. Thousands of people were playing churches.

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<v Speaker 2>We got call.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, podcast is going crazy, But are we loving

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<v Speaker 7>each other like that?

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<v Speaker 1>So the thought that you have created a bigger church

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<v Speaker 1>than Jesus is blasphemy because there would be no Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Church without Jesus Christ, who has existed forever it always

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<v Speaker 1>will exist, who became man to come and pay for

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<v Speaker 1>our sins. There would be no Christian Church without his suffering,

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<v Speaker 1>without what happened to him on the cross, and with

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<v Speaker 1>what he did later in a resurrection. So it's blasphemy

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<v Speaker 1>and that deserves a lot of repentance because this human

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<v Speaker 1>pride thing. It also requires I think an apology to

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<v Speaker 1>people who follow him, and he does sounds sad about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he sounds a tiny bit repentant. But on that topic,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus didn't want a big church. I mean, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people to be saved. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>he's against big churches. Five thousand people where there are

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<v Speaker 1>actually five thousand men. Probably more like fifteen to maybe

482
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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand people were there when Peter spoke the first

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<v Speaker 1>sermon from the rooftop, days after Jesus returned, resurrected and

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<v Speaker 1>spoke those words in front of the people who unlived

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus very bravely. But Jesus made it difficult to the

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<v Speaker 1>rich young ruler, go and sell all you have and

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<v Speaker 1>come and follow me. The rich young ruler couldn't. He said, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, if you do not eat of my

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<v Speaker 1>flesh and drink my blood, you can have no part

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<v Speaker 1>of me. And people left. He wasn't seeking haantity. He

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<v Speaker 1>was seeking quality, people who understood who he was and

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<v Speaker 1>is and were unafraid to say it in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of massive, massive fuck pushback and threats of yourself being

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<v Speaker 1>unlived as all but John ultimately were. They just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to unlive the apostle John. God just wouldn't allow it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesus didn't seek a big church. That's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that he doesn't like to see lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>in church, But I don't think he wants to see

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<v Speaker 1>lots of butts and seats. I think Jesus wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of people saved. He doesn't want people

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<v Speaker 1>who drop in the church to see a rock and

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<v Speaker 1>roll show or a big truck rally. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see people who are in church having repented of their

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<v Speaker 1>sins and to be there to worship him with gladness

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<v Speaker 1>and gratitude. Thank you, Lord God for everything you have

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<v Speaker 1>done for me, which is everything. So that's the bad.

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<v Speaker 1>The ugly form of pastoring is the it's the snippy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the irreverent, it's the borderline well obnoxious

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<v Speaker 1>form of pastoring. I'll share with you next. While we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about pastoring, let's talk about Jesus Christ as pastors.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about his love for children. There are many

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<v Speaker 1>passages in the Bible that refer to this, that the

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<v Speaker 1>children wanted to come to Jesus, and the apostles were saying, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbi's tired, and no, no, no, let the children

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<v Speaker 1>come to me. And truly, I tell you, any who

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<v Speaker 1>becomes something blocks between me and these little ones would

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<v Speaker 1>wish a millstone was tied around her necks and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be tossed into the ocean. So Jesus loved children, he

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<v Speaker 1>loved families. He happened to have invented families. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a new movie that I think puts this into a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting perspective in that in this film and it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Angel Studios. In this film called King of Kings,

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<v Speaker 1>a little boy gets an opportunity to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>gospel story as it's unfolding. He gets an opportunity because

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<v Speaker 1>his father is a very skilled storyteller. It's based upon

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Dickens this animated feature. Because of his father's skill

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<v Speaker 1>as a story teller, this kid who had been obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table

529
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<v Speaker 1>and his sword, he's transported into the world of Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>first as an observer and eventually even as a participant.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a turn in this film that is so

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<v Speaker 1>magical because the little boy is watching Jesus go to

533
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<v Speaker 1>the cross and he is remembering the miracles, some of them,

534
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<v Speaker 1>but in this case it's the little boy who receives

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<v Speaker 1>the miracles, the last of which is being called out

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<v Speaker 1>of the tomb, so he changes. Now, this did a

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<v Speaker 1>great bit of business in theaters that blew out the

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous Snow White movie Praise God. But you can't see

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore unless you join Angels Studio Guild become a

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<v Speaker 1>Premium Angel Guild member. Then you can see the film.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot more to this, and it's vital

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<v Speaker 1>to understand one aspect to this that matters to me particularly.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share with you. When you visit angel

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash todd, you're going to join over one

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<v Speaker 1>million Americans by taking back control of entertainment. I'll mention that.

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<v Speaker 1>In the second I'll explain that you become a Premium

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<v Speaker 1>Angels to do. As guild member, you get to watch

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<v Speaker 1>The King of Kings right now, you can stream it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to stream all the fan curated shows. You

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<v Speaker 1>get two free tickets to every Angel Studio theatrical release.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a Christian and you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>see more Christian movies in Hollywood, and you would like

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<v Speaker 1>them to be good, solid, biblically sound takes on culture,

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<v Speaker 1>promoting Jesus as he was and is. Angel Studios is

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<v Speaker 1>inviting us into Hollywood, giving us the right to have

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<v Speaker 1>thumbs up thumbs down approval on every story they tell

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<v Speaker 1>and distribute. That's incredible. Go to Angel dot com slash todd,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Angel dot com slash todd and help us change

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<v Speaker 1>culture with the most potent cultural changing device in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Hollywood filmmaking. Angel dot Com slash Todd. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a pastor who has made a habit of

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<v Speaker 1>going around and saying that he will do something to

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<v Speaker 1>people if they expe preuss views on race. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care for. His name is Jeff Durban and Defiant Baptist

565
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<v Speaker 1>brought this out and made disavailable to us. So this

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<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't come from protests. It comes from Defiant Baptist.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this case, Whitebeard is making a claim about

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<v Speaker 1>Pastor Ninja, and a claim that's pretty disturbing.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't don't try to sneak this stuff into our fellowship

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<v Speaker 8>it it's not going to go well for you. Especially.

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<v Speaker 8>I would not stand in front of Jeff and pull

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<v Speaker 8>any of this Corey Mohler stuff because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 8>he can be saying in front of you and the

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<v Speaker 8>next thing you know, his foot is in your face

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<v Speaker 8>and lights go out. Don't do that. That would be

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<v Speaker 8>really a bad thing to do. So what they'll put

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<v Speaker 8>up with it What.

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<v Speaker 1>Is suggesting is that that Pastor Ninja Jeff Derbertt, will

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<v Speaker 1>kick you in the face and knock you out if

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<v Speaker 1>you express views on race with which Jeff disagrees, and

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds pretty questionable. Then there's this on Jeff Durbin's

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<v Speaker 1>Soul social pages. Pastor at Apology at Church, Head of Apology,

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<v Speaker 1>a studios, husband's a candy, father to seven, grandfather to six,

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<v Speaker 1>martial arts master. I like to kick people. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that the kicking is actually two consenting adults kicking one

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<v Speaker 1>another in an actual martial arts session. But truly, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go around saying that you're going to kick people

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<v Speaker 1>if they express a view on race with which you disagree,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad. It's particularly bad from a pastoring perspective. We

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<v Speaker 1>are to be ambassadors to Christ for Christ, all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Christian and you've been changed by Him

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<v Speaker 1>and you're being changed by him, did you know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're an ambassador and you're expected to be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've failed on that multiple times, and every time I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it, I felt incredible shame. This is the Todd Hermanshaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please

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<v Speaker 1>make every effort to walk in the light of Christ

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<v Speaker 1>and
