Speaker 1: Welcome to the three Stories version the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1: Story number one Axios says Trump has killed race relations
Speaker 1: in the United States. Story number two Elon versus President Trump,
Speaker 1: a Christian response, And story number three The Good, the
Speaker 1: Bad and the Ugly a pastoring. We'll talk about this
Speaker 1: courtesy of God Almighty.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
Speaker 1: are the times to which God has decided we shall live.
Speaker 1: I know that there is the Elon and Trump thing,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that today. And I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't have a ton to say about it.
Speaker 1: So I turned to God's word, because God has lots
Speaker 1: to say about stuff like this, quarreling and arguing. I
Speaker 1: do have a lot to say about race relations. And
Speaker 1: there is a piece in Axios that's a headlined like
Speaker 1: a pendulum. Pendulum, how America's racial reckoning unraveled. And guess
Speaker 1: how it happened. It wasn't when Barack Hussein Obama, who
Speaker 1: was trained under Sololynsky's writings, who considered Sololinsky his community
Speaker 1: community organizing guru, went out to stoke racism. You know
Speaker 1: he's a you gotta a weird sound of name. And
Speaker 1: did you hear he's black?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And Trayvon Martin looks like my son, and the police
Speaker 1: act stupidly and hispanics. You need to punish your enemies.
Speaker 1: Remember that. That wasn't it. It wasn't when he brought
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter Incorporated into the White House prior to
Speaker 1: the launch of that attack around the death of Michael Brown,
Speaker 1: after Michael Brown tried to unalive a police officer. That
Speaker 1: wasn't it. It was not when the people who ran
Speaker 1: Joe Biden took good words like diversity and equity and
Speaker 1: inclusion and made them into bad policy, full on racist policy,
Speaker 1: such as denying aid to white people and creating unemployment
Speaker 1: programs and government aid programs specifically for black people, or
Speaker 1: the blatant racism of Harvard University doing everything they could
Speaker 1: to block Asian men from getting into the schools so
Speaker 1: that they could get more black men in. That wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't what Carol Swain had predicted when she wrote
Speaker 1: her book about the new white supremacy. She's an academic.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, she was a pretty a political academic.
Speaker 1: She simply looked at the ctity, what's causing this? Why
Speaker 1: is there a resurgence? What she determined was because of
Speaker 1: the racism of DEI type programs. But no, it's obviously
Speaker 1: not that it's Trump axios. This is part of the peace.
Speaker 1: The America that marched for George Floyd five years ago
Speaker 1: is gone very beneath a blackclash that has hardened for
Speaker 1: now into a new political and cultural order. Why it matters.
Speaker 1: Floyd's murder by Minneapolis police officer shocked the national conscience,
Speaker 1: But what looked like historic momentum for racial justice has collapsed,
Speaker 1: the eclipsed by a reactionary movement backed by the full
Speaker 1: force of the US government. Still, activists aren't giving up.
Speaker 1: They're recharging and refocusing their efforts, shifting from mass protests
Speaker 1: to defending what remains, implanting the seeds of what's next.
Speaker 1: The fight has moved from the streets to the margins,
Speaker 1: in courtrooms and classrooms, in city council's. A quieter form
Speaker 1: of resistance is taking shape out of the spotlight, but
Speaker 1: no less determined, just pausing. There was at no time
Speaker 1: a nation that marched for George Floyd. That never happened.
Speaker 1: There were people who march for what they thought was
Speaker 1: George Floyd, a nation that did not understand and still
Speaker 1: to this day, does not understand that George Floyd, at
Speaker 1: best participated in his death, at worst caused it. As
Speaker 1: we now know, there was no collapse of the airway.
Speaker 1: Derek Chauvin did not collapse the airway of George Floyd. Now,
Speaker 1: I hated that video. That was one of the most
Speaker 1: awful things I've ever watched in my life. I felt
Speaker 1: just like many of the bystanders saying, do something, get
Speaker 1: him off that hot payment pavement, pick him up, cool
Speaker 1: him down, do something. And the jury has delivered a
Speaker 1: response and Derek Chauvin is still in prison. But there
Speaker 1: was never a time when the nation march for George Floyd,
Speaker 1: and those people who did did not understand that George
Speaker 1: Floyd was a very, very violent man. Now there are
Speaker 1: statues of George Floyd, a man who famously held a
Speaker 1: weapon to the belly of a pregnant woman. So that
Speaker 1: wasn't it. It wasn't a nation, and it wasn't about
Speaker 1: George Floyd. It was about the vision, which is what
Speaker 1: DEI has been used for. It's been used as a cudgel.
Speaker 1: It's been used to tell white people you are oppressors.
Speaker 1: No matter what you do, you cannot be on racist.
Speaker 1: You have to be anti racist, which means you have
Speaker 1: to fashion in yourself some form of anti white sentiment.
Speaker 1: I've been in media companies where we've had race based
Speaker 1: struggle sessions and I was the one person who asked
Speaker 1: during a meeting, Hey, what's black privilege? And the trainer
Speaker 1: didn't like that at all. She said, well, there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as black privilege. I said, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: If there's white privilege, there's black privilege. She didn't like that.
Speaker 1: She also didn't like when I raised my hand and said, hey,
Speaker 1: when's it my turn to present? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: This is my presentation? Well, equity, Well I'm a trained
Speaker 1: presenter on this topic. Well, you know what, we don't
Speaker 1: all start at the same place, so I should have
Speaker 1: a chance to present. It all breaks down back to
Speaker 1: the Axios piece that contends President Trump is the reason
Speaker 1: that race relations, in their eyes, have gotten worse five
Speaker 1: years later, the pendulum has swung hard in the opposite
Speaker 1: direction DEI. On his first day in office, President Trump
Speaker 1: ordered a government wide purge of DEI programs and offices,
Speaker 1: the opening sovognist systemic efforts dismantle the racial justice agenda
Speaker 1: that emerged in twenty twenty. This was not justice. Giving
Speaker 1: people jobs based upon race is not racial justice. It
Speaker 1: is the opposite of racial justice. It is racial injustice.
Speaker 1: It is, in fact, racism. Civil rights. The Trump administration
Speaker 1: has moved aggressively to unravel President Lynnon Johnson's civil rights legacy,
Speaker 1: including by rearenting DOJ parties to focus on anti white racism,
Speaker 1: which they put in quotes because of course it can't happen.
Speaker 1: It was Johnson who said, in a disgusting way, put
Speaker 1: together enough government programs, give black people enough government money's
Speaker 1: break up black families, and you'll have black America eating
Speaker 1: out of his hands. Only he didn't say the word black.
Speaker 1: He used a word I don't use, and you probably
Speaker 1: don't either. History. Trump ordered a federal view of Confederate
Speaker 1: monuments toppled during the twenty twenty protests, targeting what he
Speaker 1: called a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our nation's history.
Speaker 1: What he called the Civil War was one of the
Speaker 1: bloodiest wars in history, and part of the reason it
Speaker 1: was fought, perhaps the main reason, was over the topic
Speaker 1: of slavery. The Confederate monuments are history. Those were historical figures,
Speaker 1: and when I see them, I hate them. I can't
Speaker 1: stand driving by him. When I see him, it reminds
Speaker 1: me of an uncomfortable past. I like that. I like
Speaker 1: seeing a statue that brings that back, because a nation
Speaker 1: that erases its history is erasing its future. If we
Speaker 1: can't regard the things of the past and the mistakes,
Speaker 1: then we are going to be more prone to remake
Speaker 1: those mistakes. Police reform. Days before the anniversary of Floyd's murder,
Speaker 1: the Justice Department scrapped proposed consent decrees for the Minneapolis
Speaker 1: and Louisville police departments and drop nearly a dozen other
Speaker 1: investigations into alleged police abuse. These consent decrees were used
Speaker 1: to d police cities. If you want to see the
Speaker 1: fruits of these consent decrees, look at Seattle, where it
Speaker 1: is legal to vandalize a building, to break into a building,
Speaker 1: to use drugs, to traffic people, and it is a
Speaker 1: legitimate defense in court to come in and say I'm sad,
Speaker 1: I have a depression issue, I have a drug issue.
Speaker 1: Where illegal immigrants will not be charged with dois because
Speaker 1: they can then be targeted for removal by the FEDS.
Speaker 1: These consent decrees were depolicing decrees and they should have
Speaker 1: been canceled. Refugee policy. This is axious again pretending that
Speaker 1: race relationship have suffered because of Donald John Trump in
Speaker 1: the office refugee policy. The administration has effectively ended most
Speaker 1: refugee programs except for one tailored to white South African farmers,
Speaker 1: justified by Trump's false claim of white genocide. You know
Speaker 1: that false claim that he then went on to prove
Speaker 1: when he had the President of South Africa in the
Speaker 1: Oval office and all the media was there, that false claim.
Speaker 1: He's canceled refugee programs because like DEI, refugee programs were
Speaker 1: being abused. They were being abused to bring in people
Speaker 1: who weren't refugees. You are not a refugee. If you
Speaker 1: come to America from Somolia and say you're scared for
Speaker 1: your life, so you come here, you get all the
Speaker 1: lars yes of being a refugee. You get to twenty
Speaker 1: two hundred bucks a month, You get to ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars walking around money that some states give five thousand
Speaker 1: some tates, and then you go to vacation in Somolia.
Speaker 1: You never were a refugee. Mark Rubio makes this case
Speaker 1: with Cuban so called refugees. They come here fear for
Speaker 1: the life, and then they go vacation in Cuba. You
Speaker 1: are not a refugee. Furthermore, USAID had used that program
Speaker 1: to import people into our country who hate our values.
Speaker 1: That is not a good idea because you import people,
Speaker 1: you import their ideas and what they're going to do
Speaker 1: with those ideas. And look what we've seen. We've seen
Speaker 1: people with those ideas go and enact bizarre, horrible forms
Speaker 1: of violence against our citizens and against visitors to our country.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Jewish diplomats, Jake Tapper is not a
Speaker 1: guy who you can turn to to have honest analysis
Speaker 1: of news. But Jake Tapper lets slip something about and
Speaker 1: it's obvious that he's a liberal. He says he doesn't
Speaker 1: vote for either party, he can't stand either party. I
Speaker 1: personally don't buy it. But he lets slip something in
Speaker 1: relation to race relations in America. That had to do
Speaker 1: with his son.
Speaker 3: A left leaning podcast that He'll Remain nameless. And we
Speaker 3: were talking about my kids, because I think they were
Speaker 3: both people without kids. And they asked me about my son,
Speaker 3: and I said he was you know, he's a football
Speaker 3: player and he wants to be a policeman. And their
Speaker 3: joke was about my fifteen year old son, Oh, how
Speaker 3: does he feel about minorities? Like the idea that he
Speaker 3: wants to be a policeman, therefore he's racist my son,
Speaker 3: And like you know, that was the big laugh. And
Speaker 3: then I got dragged in the comments and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and I thought to myself, this is why you are
Speaker 3: losing elections. Like my football playing son, who has no
Speaker 3: political views. He's fifteen. He thinks about World War two
Speaker 3: and gaming and playing linebacker. That's his world.
Speaker 1: He just gave it away. Now it's joke material on
Speaker 1: the left. It's anybody who wants to be a cop
Speaker 1: is someone who wants to go around unliving black people.
Speaker 1: That wasn't President Trump. And by the way, this piece
Speaker 1: and Axios we've been talking about where they contend that
Speaker 1: President Trump has broken race relations. You've been hearing most
Speaker 1: of the piece. Three people wrote it. They put three
Speaker 1: people on this piece, and these are the facts that
Speaker 1: can deliver facts absence of you know, fact, race relations
Speaker 1: have been poisoned to the degree that people can pretend
Speaker 1: to be a race Rachel Doleozol and get away with it.
Speaker 1: But people who are of mixed race don't get what
Speaker 1: is in fact a form of black privilege, as you'll
Speaker 1: hear in this clip this.
Speaker 4: So I got into a heated argument with the woman
Speaker 4: the other day that told me that I'm not allowed
Speaker 4: to say the word ninja. If you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, she means the N word, and incidentally, she's a
Speaker 1: mixed race woman.
Speaker 4: I don't usually come on here and give story times.
Speaker 4: It's really not my thing, but I just felt like
Speaker 4: this would be a real teachable moment. So I'm out
Speaker 4: a function my best friend had a barbecue, chilling, cooling, vibing,
Speaker 4: conversing with people how I know to converse, and out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, this girl says to me, excuse me, what
Speaker 4: are you like? Where are you from? So I explained
Speaker 4: to her that I'm white and black. Now the room
Speaker 4: is silent, and she's like, and you think you're allowed
Speaker 4: to say ninja.
Speaker 1: See this has gotten to this point, this thought policing
Speaker 1: and this race policing, that there is now a new
Speaker 1: litanus test for whether or not you're black. And Joe
Speaker 1: Biden introduced that litmus test. If you didn't vote for me,
Speaker 1: then you ain't black. Now that woman could in fact
Speaker 1: go out and identify more firmly as black if she
Speaker 1: became more radicalized. And this is the Nancy Pelosi version
Speaker 1: of this. It gives us Jasmine Crockett, who's not an
Speaker 1: ebonic speaker, but suddenly became one when she walked into
Speaker 1: the halls of Congress. And I'm firmly convinced it was
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi saying, look, we love you, the camera loves you.
Speaker 1: You're quick on your feet, You're not here to accomplish
Speaker 1: anything legislatively. You're smart, you went to one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar per year private school. But if you could be,
Speaker 1: you know, more black, it was not President Trump who
Speaker 1: broke race relations. Story number two, the dust up and
Speaker 1: the probable divorce between Elon Musk and President Trump. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to disclose something to you. Sometimes a job
Speaker 1: I do, well, it's a blessing, and it's a job
Speaker 1: most people don't get to do, and it's unique, and
Speaker 1: I get to speak God's word into things. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: a struggle because I would be frank with you, I
Speaker 1: cannot build up some big, fake head of steam to
Speaker 1: talk about Trump versus Elon. I'm sad about it. I'm
Speaker 1: sad because we were this close to a win. I'm
Speaker 1: sad because I can see both guys points on this.
Speaker 1: I'm sad because Elon Musk, a guy who goes around
Speaker 1: fathering children every other week and doesn't bother to actual
Speaker 1: be a father, is accusing President Trump of being in
Speaker 1: the Epstein files. And I would suggest if President Trump
Speaker 1: was in the Epstein files, the Democrat Party who tried
Speaker 1: to take him out, as it were, through legal systems
Speaker 1: and a coup attempt, and am I judgment, Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: let's put some lazy, poorly trained secret Service agents on
Speaker 1: his protection detail. Do you think they wouldn't have taken
Speaker 1: that selectively out and used that instead of the Russia hoax?
Speaker 1: Do you you don't think they would have leaked the
Speaker 1: portion of the Epstein files with President Trump in it
Speaker 1: if it existed. And on the topic of Elon, in
Speaker 1: his view, the guy sacrificed nearly his entire company. He
Speaker 1: was willing to see his facilities burned down. He was
Speaker 1: willing to see his stock destroyed, to go and use
Speaker 1: tech tools to uncover massive structural fraud in the federal government.
Speaker 1: Massive structural fraud meaning a system set up to encourage,
Speaker 1: to steward and to hide corruption. On the topic of
Speaker 1: Elon and his assertion that President Trump is in the
Speaker 1: Epstein files, David shown I had been a lawyer for
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. He wrote, I was hired to lead Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein's defense as as criminal lawyer nine days before he
Speaker 1: was unalived. He sought my advice for months before that
Speaker 1: I can say authoritatively and equivocally and definitely he had
Speaker 1: no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him,
Speaker 1: and he's of the opinion that Jeffrey died. But he
Speaker 1: didn't say the words that a lot of people think happened.
Speaker 1: Although now we hear Don Bengino saying, damn Magio saying
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. So what is a Christian response to this, Well,
Speaker 1: one of them is to look at what was actually
Speaker 1: going on behind the rules. Are the walls of Congress
Speaker 1: Anna Paulina Luna back concession. The rules commit in House
Speaker 1: leadership has decided to not bring anything to the floor
Speaker 1: to codify Trump's EOS or doge no code off I votes.
Speaker 1: Guess what, no votes. Half the reason the GOP even
Speaker 1: took the majority is because of Trump and Elon. Then
Speaker 1: now you guys are too scared to codify. They are
Speaker 1: too scared, And there's a pragmatism to this, and the
Speaker 1: pragmatism is that the establishment is waiting out Trump, that
Speaker 1: they don't really want things to change. So how do
Speaker 1: you respond to this as a Christian? Because that's my
Speaker 1: concern on this. President Trump is a Christian. He talks
Speaker 1: about Jesus, he prays to Jesus. I believe in the
Speaker 1: developmental process of his faith. We refer to that as
Speaker 1: being a baby Christian, and it is not an insult.
Speaker 1: Everyone starts somewhere. Elon Musk has talked about Jesus, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the Lord and he's not a Christian,
Speaker 1: so we can't expect Christian behavior out of them. But
Speaker 1: we can use Christian teaching for instruction to see where
Speaker 1: this is going off track and maybe why. I'll explain
Speaker 1: that in the second, as we cleanse our minds for
Speaker 1: just seconds. We have all sorts of choices in this world.
Speaker 1: We can quarrel or not quarrel. We can fight with
Speaker 1: people like Elon. We can fight with brothers and sisters,
Speaker 1: or we cannot. You also have a choice on how
Speaker 1: you clean your body in your hands. We all know
Speaker 1: that great, big companies very commonly do not have our
Speaker 1: best interests at heart. They do not agree with our positions.
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Speaker 1: Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd. In James, in the Bible,
Speaker 1: we read what causes quarrels and causes fights among you?
Speaker 1: Is it not this that your passions are at war
Speaker 1: within you? You desire and you do not have, So you
Speaker 1: end lives you covet and cannot obtain. So you fight
Speaker 1: in qrarel you do not have because you do not ask.
Speaker 1: And in that they mean you do not have because
Speaker 1: you do not ask the Lord to fill you with
Speaker 1: that which would fulfill. We can look at Elon and
Speaker 1: we can look at President Trump, and both their hearts
Speaker 1: wants something. I think both met are patriots. I think
Speaker 1: President Trump deeply, deeply wants to heal this country, particularly financially.
Speaker 1: And I think Elon Musk is truly, truly terrified that
Speaker 1: the country's going bankrupt. And they're both right. They're both right,
Speaker 1: and they're both wrong. Choosing this quarrel in public is
Speaker 1: exactly what Satan would want. A moment of precipice where
Speaker 1: a nation uniquely blessed with resources had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: at least begin to etch away at thieving, because a
Speaker 1: nation that has encoded you shall steal and be rewarded
Speaker 1: cannot be fully rewarded by God. Story number three, The Good,
Speaker 1: the Bad, and the Ugly of pastoring. If we wouldn't
Speaker 1: get in trouble licensing style. Back in the day, Alex
Speaker 1: who's produces this program, we used to do a feature
Speaker 1: called just a Few More Things, and then we do
Speaker 1: a sub feature that just a Few More Things, where
Speaker 1: we had clips that were the good, the bad, and
Speaker 1: the ugly. We use that great Clint Eastwood movie music.
Speaker 1: And everybody can make mistakes. Pastors can make mistakes, and
Speaker 1: mistakes are some of the greatest opportunities in the world
Speaker 1: to build relationships. Mistakes and errors and being wrong and
Speaker 1: treating people wrongly are some of the greatest ways to
Speaker 1: make relationships. Now, there's a difference between mistakes. There's a
Speaker 1: difference between making mistake and apologizing having made a mistake
Speaker 1: and sort of apologizing and then building your personality as
Speaker 1: a pastor around something that is uniquely not pastoral. That's
Speaker 1: how we get the goods, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 1: This is a pastor named John L. Hamadu of church
Speaker 1: eleven thirty two, and he's delivering an apology. This is
Speaker 1: an important moment. This is a great moment. Apologies are
Speaker 1: great times where you can build faithful friendships and relationships
Speaker 1: and let Christ face show through your own.
Speaker 5: Two things that I said, I would say, you know,
Speaker 5: tell a story about how he was lifeless, had no
Speaker 5: heartbeat for over eight minutes. He was just like laying
Speaker 5: there and I'm praying, and I'm praying.
Speaker 1: I'm praying, and this is what I said.
Speaker 5: I said, I'm not praying weak pansy prayers like oh God,
Speaker 5: please be with us. I'm praying bold prayers like God
Speaker 5: raise him from the deaths. I said that, and then
Speaker 5: I would say and then I felt the presence of
Speaker 5: God come into the room. And when the presence of
Speaker 5: God comes, death has to leave, Darkness has to leave. Literally.
Speaker 5: June twenty eighth, I'm preaching that a way of it.
Speaker 5: June twenty ninth, I'm in a hospital room again and
Speaker 5: Kaylee is eight months pregnant with our third son, Cole,
Speaker 5: and there's no morph beat, and readuce her. She gives
Speaker 5: birth and literally I'm holding my son, praying God, please
Speaker 5: be with me. And I'm feeling the overwhelming sense of
Speaker 5: the presence of God.
Speaker 1: So I used to preach, when.
Speaker 5: You know, when the presence of God comes, death leaves here,
Speaker 5: I am holding both. I used to say, I wasn't
Speaker 5: praying pansy prayers like God here, I am. God, Please
Speaker 5: be with me. And I feel like I need to
Speaker 5: apologize to a bunch of teenagers because I have made
Speaker 5: people feel like if you had enough faith, if you
Speaker 5: prayed a little harder, if you were just a little
Speaker 5: bit more intellectually convinced, things would have been different. And
Speaker 5: sometimes it rains.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the answer is no. Sometimes the answer is I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do that for you. And I question
Speaker 1: after a season like that that I've learned to ask,
Speaker 1: is what am I to learn from this? Because God
Speaker 1: is always acting for a good What am I to
Speaker 1: learn from this? At youth group a couple months ago,
Speaker 1: a new kid came in. He's a bigger kid, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of a rambunctious night, and I got a
Speaker 1: little bit frustrated, and I'd not met this kid before,
Speaker 1: and I got snarky with him and said something about, hey,
Speaker 1: when you're done interrupting me, I'll start interrupting. I'll stop
Speaker 1: interrupting you, and then I can get back to doing
Speaker 1: my job. So stop. And I saw his and it
Speaker 1: communicates to me that he was not angry, he was hurt.
Speaker 1: And I meant to catch him that night and I
Speaker 1: didn't get to and God presented an opportunity for me
Speaker 1: the next week, and he was in the hallway before
Speaker 1: class and I said, hey, can I chat with you
Speaker 1: privately for a second. I said, God put you on
Speaker 1: my heart. I wasn't gentle with you. I didn't even
Speaker 1: give you any warning. You're new to the group. I'm
Speaker 1: super glad you're here. You really contributed to the group.
Speaker 1: And I was wrong, and I'm asking you to accept
Speaker 1: my apology and please forgive me. And in this ninth
Speaker 1: grade boy's eyes, there were some tears, and I didn't
Speaker 1: make him say the words I forgive you. This is
Speaker 1: really tough for boys, but it was there. And this
Speaker 1: has happened foreign life with young people with whom I've worked.
Speaker 1: That's an opportunity to man up and to do what
Speaker 1: Jesus would do, and to let God's face shine through,
Speaker 1: and to not be prideful, to not just ignore a thing.
Speaker 1: So I love that moment of pastoring because it shows
Speaker 1: the human frailty. The that's the good the bad, and
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's I mean, it's bad, but
Speaker 1: it's also not a complete apology, and it's not also
Speaker 1: completely bad. This guy's name is Francis Chan, and these
Speaker 1: will come from protestea dot com. Such a great source.
Speaker 1: We need to get him back on. David Moran, who
Speaker 1: runs that. David moral who runs that. We need to
Speaker 1: get him back on. Francis Chan tells Lecree that he
Speaker 1: at a point would talk about having had a bigger
Speaker 1: church than Jesus.
Speaker 6: I remember, I remember you, like you had a megachurch
Speaker 6: in southern California. You had sold crazy amounts of books.
Speaker 6: Everyone was doing, your Bible studies, your DVD people kids
Speaker 6: DVDs are these things you watch. It's amazing, right, But
Speaker 6: then one day you just said you walked away from it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that you do that because of
Speaker 6: what you're talking about, but I'm interested. I'm interested, like,
Speaker 6: was it clarity, was a conviction? Was it like restlessness?
Speaker 6: Like what were you processing in that time period?
Speaker 7: There were a few things. I remember one night telling
Speaker 7: my wife because I had a church in see Me
Speaker 7: Valley And one night I just looked at her and
Speaker 7: I thought, came, mago, honey. I feel like if the
Speaker 7: Apostle Paul or Jesus had a church in see Me Valley,
Speaker 7: mine would be bigger. And that is bothering me. I
Speaker 7: would have a bigger church than Jesus because I know
Speaker 7: how to keep a crowd.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 7: And so you start realizing, well, am I really being
Speaker 7: like Christ? And then as I'm looking in the scriptures
Speaker 7: and I'm looking at okay, what's commanded? Like if God
Speaker 7: could have anything of a church, what is the main
Speaker 7: thing in scripture? And there was such an emphasis in
Speaker 7: the New Testament on loving one another as much as
Speaker 7: Christ love us. That's how much like, like, do I
Speaker 7: really care about you? Like genuinely? It's great, we can
Speaker 7: be a show, we can be friends, we give each
Speaker 7: other a hug, see in five years, But do I
Speaker 7: really genuinely love you like Jesus love the church to
Speaker 7: where I go look anything, I'll give you the shirt
Speaker 7: off my back, whatever you need, Like that's what he wanted.
Speaker 7: And so I'm like, that's not what I created. I
Speaker 7: got a bunch of people. Thousands of people were playing churches.
Speaker 2: We got call.
Speaker 7: You know, podcast is going crazy, But are we loving
Speaker 7: each other like that?
Speaker 1: So the thought that you have created a bigger church
Speaker 1: than Jesus is blasphemy because there would be no Christian
Speaker 1: Church without Jesus Christ, who has existed forever it always
Speaker 1: will exist, who became man to come and pay for
Speaker 1: our sins. There would be no Christian Church without his suffering,
Speaker 1: without what happened to him on the cross, and with
Speaker 1: what he did later in a resurrection. So it's blasphemy
Speaker 1: and that deserves a lot of repentance because this human
Speaker 1: pride thing. It also requires I think an apology to
Speaker 1: people who follow him, and he does sounds sad about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe he sounds a tiny bit repentant. But on that topic,
Speaker 1: Jesus didn't want a big church. I mean, he wants
Speaker 1: a lot of people to be saved. It's not that
Speaker 1: he's against big churches. Five thousand people where there are
Speaker 1: actually five thousand men. Probably more like fifteen to maybe
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people were there when Peter spoke the first
Speaker 1: sermon from the rooftop, days after Jesus returned, resurrected and
Speaker 1: spoke those words in front of the people who unlived
Speaker 1: Jesus very bravely. But Jesus made it difficult to the
Speaker 1: rich young ruler, go and sell all you have and
Speaker 1: come and follow me. The rich young ruler couldn't. He said, truly,
Speaker 1: I tell you, if you do not eat of my
Speaker 1: flesh and drink my blood, you can have no part
Speaker 1: of me. And people left. He wasn't seeking haantity. He
Speaker 1: was seeking quality, people who understood who he was and
Speaker 1: is and were unafraid to say it in the face
Speaker 1: of massive, massive fuck pushback and threats of yourself being
Speaker 1: unlived as all but John ultimately were. They just couldn't
Speaker 1: seem to unlive the apostle John. God just wouldn't allow it.
Speaker 1: So Jesus didn't seek a big church. That's not to
Speaker 1: say that he doesn't like to see lots of people
Speaker 1: in church, But I don't think he wants to see
Speaker 1: lots of butts and seats. I think Jesus wants to
Speaker 1: see a lot of people saved. He doesn't want people
Speaker 1: who drop in the church to see a rock and
Speaker 1: roll show or a big truck rally. He wants to
Speaker 1: see people who are in church having repented of their
Speaker 1: sins and to be there to worship him with gladness
Speaker 1: and gratitude. Thank you, Lord God for everything you have
Speaker 1: done for me, which is everything. So that's the bad.
Speaker 1: The ugly form of pastoring is the it's the snippy,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the irreverent, it's the borderline well obnoxious
Speaker 1: form of pastoring. I'll share with you next. While we're
Speaker 1: talking about pastoring, let's talk about Jesus Christ as pastors.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about his love for children. There are many
Speaker 1: passages in the Bible that refer to this, that the
Speaker 1: children wanted to come to Jesus, and the apostles were saying, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the rabbi's tired, and no, no, no, let the children
Speaker 1: come to me. And truly, I tell you, any who
Speaker 1: becomes something blocks between me and these little ones would
Speaker 1: wish a millstone was tied around her necks and they'd
Speaker 1: be tossed into the ocean. So Jesus loved children, he
Speaker 1: loved families. He happened to have invented families. And there's
Speaker 1: a new movie that I think puts this into a
Speaker 1: really interesting perspective in that in this film and it
Speaker 1: comes from Angel Studios. In this film called King of Kings,
Speaker 1: a little boy gets an opportunity to be in the
Speaker 1: gospel story as it's unfolding. He gets an opportunity because
Speaker 1: his father is a very skilled storyteller. It's based upon
Speaker 1: Charles Dickens this animated feature. Because of his father's skill
Speaker 1: as a story teller, this kid who had been obsessed
Speaker 1: with King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table
Speaker 1: and his sword, he's transported into the world of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: first as an observer and eventually even as a participant.
Speaker 1: There is a turn in this film that is so
Speaker 1: magical because the little boy is watching Jesus go to
Speaker 1: the cross and he is remembering the miracles, some of them,
Speaker 1: but in this case it's the little boy who receives
Speaker 1: the miracles, the last of which is being called out
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Speaker 1: this is a pastor who has made a habit of
Speaker 1: going around and saying that he will do something to
Speaker 1: people if they expe preuss views on race. He doesn't
Speaker 1: care for. His name is Jeff Durban and Defiant Baptist
Speaker 1: brought this out and made disavailable to us. So this
Speaker 1: actually doesn't come from protests. It comes from Defiant Baptist.
Speaker 1: And in this case, Whitebeard is making a claim about
Speaker 1: Pastor Ninja, and a claim that's pretty disturbing.
Speaker 8: Don't don't try to sneak this stuff into our fellowship
Speaker 8: it it's not going to go well for you. Especially.
Speaker 8: I would not stand in front of Jeff and pull
Speaker 8: any of this Corey Mohler stuff because, like I said,
Speaker 8: he can be saying in front of you and the
Speaker 8: next thing you know, his foot is in your face
Speaker 8: and lights go out. Don't do that. That would be
Speaker 8: really a bad thing to do. So what they'll put
Speaker 8: up with it What.
Speaker 1: Is suggesting is that that Pastor Ninja Jeff Derbertt, will
Speaker 1: kick you in the face and knock you out if
Speaker 1: you express views on race with which Jeff disagrees, and
Speaker 1: that sounds pretty questionable. Then there's this on Jeff Durbin's
Speaker 1: Soul social pages. Pastor at Apology at Church, Head of Apology,
Speaker 1: a studios, husband's a candy, father to seven, grandfather to six,
Speaker 1: martial arts master. I like to kick people. I hope
Speaker 1: that the kicking is actually two consenting adults kicking one
Speaker 1: another in an actual martial arts session. But truly, if
Speaker 1: you go around saying that you're going to kick people
Speaker 1: if they express a view on race with which you disagree,
Speaker 1: that's bad. It's particularly bad from a pastoring perspective. We
Speaker 1: are to be ambassadors to Christ for Christ, all of us.
Speaker 1: If you're a Christian and you've been changed by Him
Speaker 1: and you're being changed by him, did you know that
Speaker 1: you're an ambassador and you're expected to be a good one.
Speaker 1: I've failed on that multiple times, and every time I've
Speaker 1: done it, I felt incredible shame. This is the Todd Hermanshaw.
Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please
Speaker 1: make every effort to walk in the light of Christ
Speaker 1: and