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Speaker 3: It's nice side with Dan ray one easy Boston.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to go back to Bill.
Speaker 4: We held him over, So Bill, I don't hold many
Speaker 4: callers over, but I'll give you a chance to wrap
Speaker 4: up your points.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm monopologed. You know, I know you won't let me anyway.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't. But you know, and I know I know this.
Speaker 5: This the audience here is very often not sympathetic to
Speaker 5: trans people or or or transvestite story times or whatever.
Speaker 5: And I know that it's just something that people have
Speaker 5: a hard time understanding. And I get that. But Seth
Speaker 5: Moulten's mistake was.
Speaker 4: When you talk about transvestite story times, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what you're talking talk about the drag queen story hours?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, Yes, drag queen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no problem with that, as long as
Speaker 4: there are other groups like the National Rifle Association. If
Speaker 4: you have an NRA story hours some week, have whatever
Speaker 4: story hours.
Speaker 5: You want, exactly. My point is there's a lot of intolerance.
Speaker 2: So we're an agreement, Bill, we're in agreement with a No.
Speaker 5: No I argue with you. I know many of your
Speaker 5: audience don't feel that way. My point is simply this.
Speaker 5: I agree that no one should be have an unfair
Speaker 5: advantage because of skies or weight when they're on a
Speaker 5: playing field. But the company suggestion you made that that
Speaker 5: one athlete who had her chief knockout, it could have
Speaker 5: easily been done by a very tall, strong woman. That
Speaker 5: athlete didn'ttentially uh that male trand that formerly male didn't
Speaker 5: intentionally mean to hurt that girl.
Speaker 2: No what, No one suggested that.
Speaker 5: No one suggested that, But you pointed out as if
Speaker 5: that's what trans people are gonna do.
Speaker 4: No I can point I can point out dozens. Bill,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna boil you with it. I can point
Speaker 4: out dozens of examples. I also can point out the
Speaker 4: argument that women are making women swimmers, particularly let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about a non contact sport, swimming, Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh And So if you're a track and field and
Speaker 4: if you're a female, and you are competing against other females,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, there's someone who has structurally, biologically,
Speaker 4: you know, superior physicality to you.
Speaker 2: Uh. In the case of there's a swimmer down at
Speaker 2: Penn State. Uh. And and you as a woman who
Speaker 2: has worked, a young girl who has worked for years
Speaker 2: and years and years, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: find yourself competing against people who have an unfair physical advantage. Uh.
Speaker 2: I can understand their position, That's.
Speaker 5: All I know too.
Speaker 2: But not we could have, we could have, we could have.
Speaker 4: A great saying, is what Moulton I think is saying,
Speaker 4: is that there's a purity test in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: We can't even converse about that. You know, there are
Speaker 4: some boys hockey teams who do not have enough boy
Speaker 4: players at one high school, so they combine and they
Speaker 4: have sort of a combined team of two or three
Speaker 4: high schools. Maybe they can be if we find out
Speaker 4: that there are so many, you know, trans athletes, we can.
Speaker 2: Have a trans high school sports program.
Speaker 4: I mean this, we have to sort of look at
Speaker 4: this and at least be able to have a conversation
Speaker 4: like we're having now.
Speaker 2: That's all Seth Malten is saying, right, But.
Speaker 5: I think basically he took it one step too far,
Speaker 5: and I think he actually probably regrets what he says,
Speaker 5: because you think he does. But he certainly didn't make
Speaker 5: itself available for calls. So that that was my decision.
Speaker 2: That was my decision.
Speaker 5: That's fine, that's fine. But what I'm saying is, and
Speaker 5: I'll end with this, I think chose his words differently.
Speaker 5: I think if if his little girls, and I support
Speaker 5: everyone to being protective of their children, but I think
Speaker 5: if his little girls happen to be six feet tall
Speaker 5: and or overweight, would he not want them to be
Speaker 5: able to play on a team where other players were
Speaker 5: not as physically tall or large for fear that they
Speaker 5: may run people over. I think it's a matter of
Speaker 5: he basically was painting trans people as bullies as people.
Speaker 4: Again, you know when you said that now three times,
Speaker 4: I'm going to disagree with you. Every time you say it,
Speaker 4: he's not saying that in my opinion. You have your opinion.
Speaker 4: We'll have to agree to disagree. And I appreciate you
Speaker 4: took the time to call. I mean that genuinely, and
Speaker 4: I hope you continue to call. Have a good night,
Speaker 4: you too, have a good one. Let's keep rolling here. Okay,
Speaker 4: we'll get one more in before the break. Let me
Speaker 4: go to John and Braintreet. John, you're next to night side.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 6: How you doing, Dan, it's Captain Hindsight again.
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm very good, Captain Hindsight. We've rallied you a couple
Speaker 4: of times here in the last few days.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Back on the Biden thing. I was kind of glad
Speaker 6: that he. I sought more of him for stepping down
Speaker 6: the way he did, But in hindsight, he probably should
Speaker 6: have stepped down sooner.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, my question to Seth Molten at the end, and
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I articulated the question as well as
Speaker 4: I should. I think there's a story behind that because
Speaker 4: I have a very close I have a very clear
Speaker 4: recollection that Joe Biden sometime you need a late May
Speaker 4: or early June released a videotape. It was a very short,
Speaker 4: thirty second videotape, it wasn't live, and Joe Biden, looking
Speaker 4: trim and fit and fit as a fiddle, basically looked
Speaker 4: into the camera and said, Donald, I understand you want
Speaker 4: to have a debate with me anywhere, anytime. Okay, I'm ready, Donald,
Speaker 4: make my day. Was it was almost that quick. It
Speaker 4: was almost like he was channeling Clint Eastward, you know,
Speaker 4: make my day. And within an hour CNN had scheduled
Speaker 4: that debate. And the fact that he wasn't ready for
Speaker 4: that debate and had such a horrible performance, I'm wondering
Speaker 4: if there were people in the White House who said, look,
Speaker 4: it's better to get him out there, proved to him,
Speaker 4: proved to the American.
Speaker 2: Public that he's not at that point. Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 2: what I'm suggesting. That's exactly what I'm suggesting. And then
Speaker 2: for a while he said no, he said, he said,
Speaker 2: if God Almighty comes down, I'll step aside.
Speaker 4: If you remember in July, but he said, you know,
Speaker 4: let's I hear from God Almighty. You got my word,
Speaker 4: I'm in and that and when a Biden gives you
Speaker 4: his word, that's what he said, and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, Nancy Pelosi said, well, I haven't talked to
Speaker 4: him yet, and then Chuck Schumer and I think you know,
Speaker 4: basically he was told by the powers that be, Hey,
Speaker 4: it's over.
Speaker 6: I have a quick question or two quick questions for you,
Speaker 6: one and you can answer them when I hang up.
Speaker 6: One is, do you think there's going to be a
Speaker 6: nightmare between the in the Republican Party now, because you
Speaker 6: know how they have the Marjorie Taylor greens and stuff,
Speaker 6: especially with it's such a selgh. Are they going to
Speaker 6: start holding them hostage for crazier stuff? And it couldn't
Speaker 6: be a nightmare even though they have complete control, those
Speaker 6: few people are going to have that power again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you I don't think so.
Speaker 4: The the Republican Congress just changed the rules and that
Speaker 4: in the Republican Conference Matt Gates was able to challenge
Speaker 4: McCarthy's speakership because they just needed one vote amongst the
Speaker 4: Republican Conference. They just changed that you have to have
Speaker 4: nine votes, sort of a nine.
Speaker 2: Vote a little bit better.
Speaker 6: What I wanted to say was my criticism of the Biden.
Speaker 6: I am absolutely so disappointed the way they handled the Israel.
Speaker 6: And are you familiar with Christopher Hitchens at all? I'm
Speaker 6: just becoming familiar with him. Oh my gosh. He just
Speaker 6: if you if you YouTube Christopher Hitchins and listened to
Speaker 6: him about Israel over the air, he you know, I
Speaker 6: wish I could speak as eloquently as he does on it,
Speaker 6: so so succinctly, and so you know, obviously everything he
Speaker 6: says is just truth after truth after truth, and he.
Speaker 5: Said it was.
Speaker 6: He said he found it odd that once England decided
Speaker 6: to start with the colonization of countries and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, now Israel came along and this
Speaker 6: was his words. And Israel is now colonizing you know,
Speaker 6: Jerusalem and Israel over there. And if you get a
Speaker 6: chance to listen to this, it's horrific that we've got
Speaker 6: ourselves involved in there and now this and I ran
Speaker 6: off even more. And they've become extremely strong and could
Speaker 6: be a problem. So I don't know, well, you know that.
Speaker 4: They've become extremely strong because the money was was given
Speaker 4: to them. I certainly know of Hitchings. He he's he's
Speaker 4: not a lot.
Speaker 6: He died, Yeah, in eleven I didn't realize you.
Speaker 2: Thirteen years ago.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, he's he's he's he was a brit
Speaker 4: and and he he was always someone who was controversial.
Speaker 2: I'm a big supporter of Israel. You know that. You
Speaker 2: listen to my show and I don't want to open
Speaker 2: up the conversation.
Speaker 6: Would you listen to his explanation of why he you know,
Speaker 6: the way he his overview of what happened or what
Speaker 6: they're doing there, and it was maybe we could have
Speaker 6: a talk some other time, but.
Speaker 4: We could, we could. And I've studied the Middle East.
Speaker 4: I've never been to the Middle East, I will admit that,
Speaker 4: but I've studied it a lot. And there's one country
Speaker 4: over there. There's one country over there that has been
Speaker 4: loyal to the United States. They have been they have
Speaker 4: been attacked since the day that that that they became
Speaker 4: a nation in May of nineteen forty eight. And there's
Speaker 4: there a city there, there's a country. There are a
Speaker 4: country by the size of New Jersey. If we had
Speaker 4: ever had the amount of bombs dropped on us during
Speaker 4: that period time for now seven over seventy five years,
Speaker 4: please uh you know again, I think we're going to
Speaker 4: be just diametrically a post on this issue, and I
Speaker 4: would be more than happy to have a conversation.
Speaker 2: With you on it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, well I'm not that well read in it.
Speaker 6: But listening to him, holy smokes, he just puts it,
Speaker 6: puts it in perspective that they are putting us in
Speaker 6: a very we got dambooz the last time trying to
Speaker 6: support them and then they bailed up. There's some crazy
Speaker 6: stuff going on there too. So I don't want to
Speaker 6: take you off, but thank you for taking the call.
Speaker 6: I appreciate welcome, have a good night.
Speaker 2: Share, Thank you, sir. Take quick break right back on
Speaker 2: Night's out after this.
Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 3: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let me go next to Mike. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: Mick in Austin.
Speaker 4: Mick, you are next on nights. I appreciate you taking
Speaker 4: the time to call in a right headship.
Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great boy? Sound like a creaky door there?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 5: It is? Actually no, I was just doing some dishes,
Speaker 5: cleaning up the house.
Speaker 2: Uh all right, well now let's talk. I can't help
Speaker 2: you with that. I can help you can help me
Speaker 2: with talk and go ahead.
Speaker 5: All right, couple quick thingys Seth Molt and Mike have
Speaker 5: a graduate congressman. I you know, I racked that him,
Speaker 5: like he's not my he's not my congressman. But the
Speaker 5: guy is great. He made some great points about the
Speaker 5: Democratic Party ship listen to the people, Maybe do poles,
Speaker 5: because I'm sure.
Speaker 2: They I'm sure they do polls.
Speaker 4: I think what his concern is that if you do
Speaker 4: not align with the party on each and every issue,
Speaker 4: and particularly on certain issues, they they subject you to
Speaker 4: what he called the purity test, which I think is
Speaker 4: a mistake because if you start to give everybody a
Speaker 4: purity test, you're going to have a pretty small party
Speaker 4: at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: Well one hundred percent agree, And I'm the person who
Speaker 5: always backed Labor up in if they didn't poles, Like
Speaker 5: as a parent, I don't want my daughter playing field
Speaker 5: hockey or swimming against a man like that's a you know,
Speaker 5: transgender and taking the title from me, and especially some
Speaker 5: of these national titles like NCAA titles and the Young
Speaker 5: Girl swam since she was four years old and lost
Speaker 5: the title to a guy who just transferred over in
Speaker 5: two years. I mean, hundred is that wrong, and I
Speaker 5: think most Democrats would agree with that. Like they can
Speaker 5: participate in sports and some non contact sports, but I
Speaker 5: think most Democrats would agree with that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, there are there are there are
Speaker 4: ways that women and men have have have competed, you know,
Speaker 4: in tennis mixed doubles. Obviously, there's a uh you know,
Speaker 4: there's an LPGA, and there's a PGA, you know, men's tour,
Speaker 4: And the reason is that men, you know, the really
Speaker 4: good professional male golfers can hit the ball three hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty yards.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's just about I just watched like
Speaker 5: two weeks ago it was college and it was like
Speaker 5: two men and two women from one call. It's facing
Speaker 5: two men and two more from another.
Speaker 2: College golf a golf tournament.
Speaker 5: You mean yeah it was college. It was college golf.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, yeah, I should have not been golfer myself, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I think you go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think most Democrats would agree with its fundamental issues
Speaker 5: like that. I mean, I don't think most Democrats are
Speaker 5: far dealing with a zero point five percent in like
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, like you can't do this. I think
Speaker 5: a lot of us have common sense issues like that.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, look, and the bottom line is is look, if
Speaker 2: you take if you take, for example, a game like tennis, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you take the best men's players against the best
Speaker 2: women's players, uh, the men's players will win. But but uh,
Speaker 2: just like in marathons, women aren't that far behind in tennis.
Speaker 2: I remember one time hitting as a young man with
Speaker 2: a woman who was number ten in the world of
Speaker 2: the women's I couldn't touch. I mean, that wasn't bad,
Speaker 2: but I mean she could do stuff with a tennis ball,
Speaker 2: big left woman named Barbara Potter, who was ranked number ten,
Speaker 2: moving from Connecticut, and you know, she could bounce the
Speaker 2: ball to the left, bounce the ball, she could do
Speaker 2: things with which I could even attempt to do. But
Speaker 2: that's a difference, you know. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: if you put her up against the best men's player,
Speaker 2: he's gonna you know, he's going the same way with golf.
Speaker 4: You take take the best female golfer, She's never going
Speaker 4: to beat the best male golfer. It's a question of strength.
Speaker 4: But when you get into transgender issues here, it's a
Speaker 4: different set of issues. And Seth Molten, you know, came
Speaker 4: on tonight, and I think he tried to make his
Speaker 4: case as clearly as he could.
Speaker 2: I think he did a good job on it.
Speaker 5: I also think he did it. He made a great
Speaker 5: point with the like marathon. They have wheelchair categories, they
Speaker 5: have men's women over forty, over thirty, they have like
Speaker 5: fifteen or twenty different categories. People from Boston. The first
Speaker 5: guy first in, a male female from Boston across the line.
Speaker 4: You do you know, I would think that if you
Speaker 4: had transgender women competing in the women's marathon, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden you had you know, you know people,
Speaker 4: you know, men who were either in the process or
Speaker 4: have become women, They're going to have a height advantage,
Speaker 4: They're going to have a strength advantage.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: That is where I think you could do. You could
Speaker 4: you could run that experiment and say, okay, transgender women
Speaker 4: can compete against women.
Speaker 2: See what happens.
Speaker 5: Then you know title exactly. You know, Dan, I could
Speaker 5: talk all night about how Kamala lost the election. I
Speaker 5: can't believe Donald Trump won it just on his character
Speaker 5: and it's just playton lies. But I can't connt that tonight.
Speaker 5: But as far as the state order goes, and now
Speaker 5: our state is trying to like a ball shot bill
Speaker 5: that we just voted for. Yeah, I hope you have
Speaker 5: a we will we will.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you we will have Diana Disaglio on.
Speaker 5: I couldn't think of her name, Diana.
Speaker 4: She's the state auditor. She is carrying on a one
Speaker 4: woman's campaign against the male dominated legislature up there. And
Speaker 4: I know that they were going to pull something like
Speaker 4: this and it's not quick too.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is a real in your face. You know,
Speaker 2: you went to the voters. I think it was like
Speaker 2: seventy percent. She won seventy to thirty percent.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I hope she drags him into court because obviously they
Speaker 4: have messed now with all the voters in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I saw Mariana on TV tonight and it was appalling
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Hey, thank you know.
Speaker 5: I listened to the show you had her on and
Speaker 5: that was great listening to it. My last point is
Speaker 5: the Attorney General Gates. I listened to you on your
Speaker 5: show when you talked about him soliciting minors. Yeah it
Speaker 5: was like two years ago, but yep, the wrong choice
Speaker 5: for attorney general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that that's been confirmed that choice.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, there will be some senators who will
Speaker 4: stand by him, but he's not going to get fifty percent, uh,
Speaker 4: even in a in a Senate which has fifty three Republicans.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: I'll let you get back to work. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: make appreciate you, all right, Take you have a good one.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Joe and Lynn. Joe next on nights.
Speaker 2: I get you in here before the fint Dan.
Speaker 8: This is a really interesting conversation. I have mixed feelings.
Speaker 8: I know we can agree to disagree and still be friends.
Speaker 8: I disagree with transgender. To me, that's not normal. And
Speaker 8: I don't blame Steph Moulton because you know about the
Speaker 8: transgender boxing. I think it was an Italy.
Speaker 4: They showed there was an Algerian transgender contestant in the
Speaker 4: in the woman's division and he she won the gold medal,
Speaker 4: and there was all sorts of controversy about that.
Speaker 8: Yes, I do read yeah, because but there was damage
Speaker 8: to one woman in Italy and her face.
Speaker 4: She was an Italian five who who who suffered? I
Speaker 4: don't know if she suffered, but but she basically.
Speaker 8: Broke damaged eye sockets, an other things, and that's horrible.
Speaker 8: I don't think they should be doing that. I mean
Speaker 8: to me, and this is just me. You may agree
Speaker 8: or disagree, Glenn and I have discussed this before. A
Speaker 8: transgender to.
Speaker 2: Me is not normal.
Speaker 8: You're a man, you're a man, you're a woman, you're
Speaker 8: a woman.
Speaker 4: If you again, what it's normal to you and what's
Speaker 4: normal to me might be different, might be different to
Speaker 4: someone else.
Speaker 2: Again, the word normal is.
Speaker 4: You know again, Uh, it's you know, it's certainly transgenders
Speaker 4: are the exception to the rule.
Speaker 2: But again I don't know that I have that right,
Speaker 2: nor to you. It's you know, it's you know.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say, look, people with red hair,
Speaker 4: it's not normal because you know, but but to them
Speaker 4: it's normal. So I just I don't think that's going
Speaker 4: to lead us anywhere to I think we should stay
Speaker 4: with the with the conversation about how how can he
Speaker 4: make it work? What what what compromised is jgitimate and
Speaker 4: what conversation should be allowed, Moulten saying he can't even
Speaker 4: raise it as an issue to talk about because.
Speaker 8: Crazy you should be able to discuss anything. Now, as
Speaker 8: far as Matt Gates, I don't know if it's true
Speaker 8: what they said about and they say some people say
Speaker 8: make a good attorney general. I don't know, no, because
Speaker 8: there's just so much and what I don't like what
Speaker 8: more Healey's going to do about the border. I just
Speaker 8: want to touch on that she's going to disobey the
Speaker 8: president's order. Now, the president could reset go to the
Speaker 8: that new was it Missoon whatever his name is, and
Speaker 8: say I'd like to put you put Matt Gates in.
Speaker 8: But when you hear things like mor Heey's not going
Speaker 8: to obey uh, and that's federal law, I think that
Speaker 8: she may wind up losing her funding. And I don't
Speaker 8: know whether they'll arrest her for that.
Speaker 4: But no, Look, whatever disagreement exists between Governor Heally and
Speaker 4: the Trump administration on that or any other issue, will
Speaker 4: be litigated in court.
Speaker 2: Simple as that suppose what's going to be done. Absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's that's the way we work in this country. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't arrest people. We're not a.
Speaker 4: Banana Republic dictatorship. It gets resolved in court, and the
Speaker 4: court decision is more is more.
Speaker 8: Of my questions he was more violating federal law if
Speaker 8: he orders the border to start, people start taking out
Speaker 8: deporting these people, and she won't told the police not
Speaker 8: to obey his order.
Speaker 4: And again if if the if the Trump administration goes
Speaker 4: into federal court, uh, and they get an order which
Speaker 4: instructs her, they would take her into federal court and
Speaker 4: she would be told by a federal judge you have
Speaker 4: to you know, you're obligated. Now, there's a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of cases. There's a whole bunch of arguments there. I
Speaker 4: can't litigated with you here, So that will be that
Speaker 4: will be decided by a judge.
Speaker 2: And that's my question.
Speaker 8: If she disobeys him, then is she in serious trouble?
Speaker 8: If he goes to court, you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about disobeying a judge.
Speaker 8: Yeah, more more really the judges you have to follow this.
Speaker 4: She can be held in contempt of court like any individual,
Speaker 4: even as a governor, and that she's gonna have a
Speaker 4: chance to appeal it. That's the way it works, and
Speaker 4: eventually it necessarily goes Supreme Court. And if she's then
Speaker 4: gonna defy it, yeah, she's gonna be in contempt.
Speaker 2: Joe, I got to run. I got you on before
Speaker 2: the break here. But I'm way past my.
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, take care, welcome, Thank you much.
Speaker 2: All right, we take a quick break for news.
Speaker 4: I got Danielle and Worcester coming up on the other side,
Speaker 4: and got wide open lines here six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 4: ten thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 4: I'd like to segue. I think we've we've done the
Speaker 4: Seth Molten conversation, who had a variety of points of
Speaker 4: view on that. I'd like to get your thoughts on
Speaker 4: the nominees, the nominations that President Trump has made, a
Speaker 4: couple of them somewhat controversial.
Speaker 2: I think that his.
Speaker 4: Nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Junior is one that actually
Speaker 4: may make it. I don't think Matt Gates will make it,
Speaker 4: but I think he's had some good nominations, and i'd
Speaker 4: like to hear what do you think you may agree
Speaker 4: or disagree. You got the numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 3: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WZ Boston's
Speaker 3: news Radio.
Speaker 4: By the way, apropoed Joe's questions. The Globe's running a
Speaker 4: story tomorrow just been updated this afternoon that some Democratic
Speaker 4: governors say they're forming a resistance group against Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: The Globe is reporting that Governor mar Heey is not
Speaker 4: amongst that group democratic governors organizing a second Trump administration
Speaker 4: against a second Trump administration, saying this week they're pulling
Speaker 4: together a coalition of like minded state executives to help
Speaker 4: battle the dangers of authoritarianism. One leader not joining the
Speaker 4: resistance group. More Healey, the Massachusetts governor who his political
Speaker 4: rise was fueled and pot by her repeated battles with
Speaker 4: now president like Donald Trump, is not a member of
Speaker 4: the newly formed initiative known as Governor's Safeguarding Democracy, according
Speaker 4: to Healy's office, let me go next to Danielle in Wooster.
Speaker 2: Danielle, welcome back to Night's side. How are you tonight?
Speaker 5: No big deal.
Speaker 9: She gets no accolades, one thing that she is bragging that, No,
Speaker 9: she gets nothing.
Speaker 2: I just I just thought I was. I just mentioned
Speaker 2: I just saw it during the break, that's all. That's
Speaker 2: why I mentioned it.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Tonight's been an interesting night. And I think that Seth
Speaker 9: deserves so much respect and credit.
Speaker 7: For his.
Speaker 9: Commitment to stand behind what he believes in. And I
Speaker 9: feel like that is what's gone wrong the last ten
Speaker 9: years in this country.
Speaker 5: Are people.
Speaker 9: Whether they just want to be included, want to be accepted,
Speaker 9: so they go with the flow, so to speak, or
Speaker 9: they're fearful of being ridiculed for having a different opinion,
Speaker 9: because that's where politics has taken us. You cannot have
Speaker 9: a mind of your own. You either think like us
Speaker 9: or we crucify it literally. And you had to call
Speaker 9: her a couple of months ago when we were talking
Speaker 9: about trans gender subjects and she nailed it when she said,
Speaker 9: there are two sexes. Fine, girl, and it's determined by chromosomes,
Speaker 9: and it's just you know, you end up having certain
Speaker 9: genitalia body features that if you want a boy, if
Speaker 9: you've wone a girl. So I don't understand why this
Speaker 9: is such a tough decision. You know what it is.
Speaker 9: It sounds like the typical players in the game that
Speaker 9: just don't like rules. We have a problem with authority
Speaker 9: and rules. And the rule says if you're a boy,
Speaker 9: you don't this is what team you play for. If
Speaker 9: you're a girl, you play on this team. It really
Speaker 9: isn't more complicated than that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know from from the other side, and I'm
Speaker 2: not necessarily on the other side of this issue. In
Speaker 2: terms of girls. It seems to me that girls have
Speaker 2: fought long and hard for equal equal full.
Speaker 9: I am a s I can speak as a swimmer.
Speaker 9: I'm a butterflyer, okay, butterfly. Butterfly is the most difficult sport.
Speaker 9: And I will tell you I was pretty jacked when
Speaker 9: I was younger. Okay, I was big into the gym.
Speaker 9: I was self conscious on a prom dress because I
Speaker 9: had shoulders and back muscles that I didn't you don't
Speaker 9: even know exists, Okay, but I will tell you I
Speaker 9: can think vividly of three guys that because in the summer, well,
Speaker 9: some teams are co ed, but then you compete some
Speaker 9: in high school. The girls haven't meet the boys have
Speaker 9: meet in the summer. You have a co ed team,
Speaker 9: but you swim against boys, and you know the girls
Speaker 9: from against girls, but it's we travel with the team together.
Speaker 9: And I can think of three to this day that's
Speaker 9: whim the butterfly that would absolutely flatter me.
Speaker 5: If I had to go against them.
Speaker 9: So and also, you know when you have a child,
Speaker 9: when you give birth, mother gives birth and they say, okay,
Speaker 9: I know you have a boy or you have a girl,
Speaker 9: and love that doesn't sit back in the hospital and going,
Speaker 9: you have to know what I really wanted?
Speaker 10: A girl?
Speaker 9: You know, the boys, we're going to call him a girl.
Speaker 9: You don't decide that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of emotion on this issue.
Speaker 9: And so when a child that's to exhibit that they
Speaker 9: want to be the opposite sex, right, and the parent
Speaker 9: chooses to support that, they can take it a step
Speaker 9: further and take the hormones and stuff to prevent further development.
Speaker 9: So those kids might be more in line with that
Speaker 9: gender that they want to be, versus maybe a kid
Speaker 9: that was scared to talk about it and then in
Speaker 9: high school decided, you know what, I am going to
Speaker 9: go for it. I am trimp and that person. Let's
Speaker 9: just take a boy, for example, that wants to be
Speaker 9: the female, so that that boy didn't take the hormones,
Speaker 9: so he's got the Adams apple and he's got the
Speaker 9: male features. That's going to be a whole different scenario
Speaker 9: than maybe a boy that was given the hormone suppressing
Speaker 9: drugs or estrogen at a young age and has the
Speaker 9: shapes and curves of a female by the time he's
Speaker 9: a freshman. So you know, there's just so much that
Speaker 9: goes into it. It's so complex, and.
Speaker 2: I just think people, Danielle, it's very complicated. There's no
Speaker 2: question about that, and I think that's just simple. Let me,
Speaker 2: let me just let me just jump in here for
Speaker 2: a second, if you don't mind.
Speaker 4: I think it's very complicated, and I think that there
Speaker 4: are families who find themselves dealing with these questions and
Speaker 4: understandably they support their child whatever way the child.
Speaker 2: Is going, and that you understand. But the question then becomes, Okay,
Speaker 2: if this child wants to compete against girls in what
Speaker 2: are contact sports, how fear is that? And that's what
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to I have. I have all
Speaker 2: I can do to handle with that that issue.
Speaker 9: I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you. But Dan, again,
Speaker 9: where was this problem when I was in middle school?
Speaker 9: It was we didn't have it. Okay, we allowed society
Speaker 9: to get like this, and we need more people like
Speaker 9: Seth to stand up and say, wait a minute, wait
Speaker 9: a minute.
Speaker 2: We need he's saying.
Speaker 4: He's saying the same thing I am, daniel That is
Speaker 4: that that he should be allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 4: He was told by people in the Democratic Party this
Speaker 4: is an issue that you can't even talk about. And
Speaker 4: and he he has has separated himself from a good
Speaker 4: portion of the Democratic Party, and maybe he will pay
Speaker 4: a price for it, or maybe he will turn out
Speaker 4: and he will take the Democratic Party by force of
Speaker 4: his argument in other direction, some the same thing as you.
Speaker 9: You should be allowed to talk about it, and you
Speaker 9: should be able to have your own opinion.
Speaker 2: We are saying that, I feel like I'm arguing with it.
Speaker 2: I really I'm not. We're saying something.
Speaker 9: No, No, I'm not arguing. I just I just don't know.
Speaker 4: There was just just a point one other point, there
Speaker 4: was a young there was apparently it's a city council
Speaker 4: out there who's saying that he might run against Seth Moulton.
Speaker 2: And Seth isn't afraid of that. He said, fine, you know,
Speaker 2: let's let's deal with it at the round box. All right.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Danielle. I hear your emotion coming
Speaker 2: through the phone. Thank you much. Okay, good night, You're welcome.
Speaker 4: All right, take quick break here six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 4: four to ten thirty triple eight nine two nine ten
Speaker 4: thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 4: I do when I when I come back, I want
Speaker 4: to start talking about the cabinet nominations that President Trump
Speaker 4: or President Like Trump has put forward. Mario Ruber, Mario
Speaker 4: Rubio Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, excuse me, Marco Rubio,
Speaker 4: Secretary of State. I think that will be that will
Speaker 4: pass very easily. I think that the Defense Secretary Pete
Speaker 4: Hegseth has an incredible I realize he's a Fox News
Speaker 4: Hope host, but he has an incredible military service record.
Speaker 4: Christy Nome, the governor of South Dakota, is a Trump favorite.
Speaker 4: John Ratcliffe, former Congressman c I A director, Lee Zelden,
Speaker 4: e PA administrator who ran a pretty strong race as
Speaker 4: a Republican for the governorship of New York uh and
Speaker 4: Elise Stefanik. We all saw her dealing with the Ivy
Speaker 4: League President's last last fall in the wake of the
Speaker 4: October seventh attack. He has he has some smart people here.
Speaker 4: I think one nomination that I have that I have
Speaker 4: trouble with is Matt Gates.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think he is a.
Speaker 4: He's a lightning rod. He has brought more controversy on
Speaker 4: himself and on the Republican Party. I still believe perhaps
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is want enough to use him as almost
Speaker 4: a sacrificial lamb, that he would be the one nominee
Speaker 4: that Trump probably is just as happy to lose.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 4: I think that there are more qualified lawyers and experienced litigators,
Speaker 4: and certainly I think of former district attorney out of
Speaker 4: South Carolina Goudy, Trey Goudi, who I think would be
Speaker 4: a legitimate nominee if he's trying, if he's trying to
Speaker 4: find people who have media experience, there are others, There
Speaker 4: are others. Donald Trump has had legal troubles, and I
Speaker 4: think that he needs to surround himself with someone who
Speaker 4: is legal, but someone who's also highly competent.
Speaker 2: Will take a break. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 4: What do you think about the cabinet officials that so
Speaker 4: far he has nominated, including Robert F. Kennedy Junior is
Speaker 4: the head of Health and Human Services. Arguably, I think
Speaker 4: that's the biggest in terms of dollars spent department. And
Speaker 4: that is not even to mention the Department of Government Efficiency,
Speaker 4: which hasn't even informed yet, which we'll have two people
Speaker 4: involved in that, including Elon Musk, join the conversation. I
Speaker 4: got some open lines. Let's light him up. Be right back,
Speaker 4: coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 3: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob and Raynham Next. Bob, You're next
Speaker 2: on Nightside. Welcome Sey, Dan.
Speaker 10: How's it going good?
Speaker 2: What do you think about the president elects nominees?
Speaker 10: I like him, but I was wondering if I could
Speaker 10: Can I stay with the Seth Wilten issue?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 10: Yeah, So I certainly agree with what Seth Molten stands,
Speaker 10: you know, stands for on this issue. And I think
Speaker 10: I think for us to get back to a normal society,
Speaker 10: I'd say we have to have healthy debate on both sides.
Speaker 10: And it can't be potty line right down the line
Speaker 10: on every single issue that that I believe does no
Speaker 10: one any good. I think there needs to be healthy
Speaker 10: debate on a lot of these issues. And and the
Speaker 10: other thing I'd like to say is, uh, I believe
Speaker 10: last summer you had a gentleman on speaking about a
Speaker 10: d D and ADHD, but he was speaking more to
Speaker 10: it on the adult level, and I was wondering if
Speaker 10: you could get an expert on to UH speak about
Speaker 10: the impacts of this add and ADHD medic medicine given
Speaker 10: to children and if that has any impact on all
Speaker 10: this UH transgender stuff from these schools you know I have.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen. I haven't seen anything in that regard.
Speaker 4: I know that there are more children diagnosed these days
Speaker 4: with ADHD than than were in the past.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 4: And some people think it's over diagnosis, other thin others
Speaker 4: think that it was not diagnosed properly in the past.
Speaker 4: What I would rather do is that if anyone out
Speaker 4: there wants to recommend someone, I'd be more than happy
Speaker 4: to look at them. I don't have, off the top
Speaker 4: of my head doctors who I know who would be,
Speaker 4: you know, experts in that area.
Speaker 2: Doctor. I do have doctors who have experts in a
Speaker 2: number of areas, but I don't have anyone in that area.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, anyone who wants to recommend someone, I'd be
Speaker 4: more than to look at him and talk about it.
Speaker 4: But we're probably getting into some of that because if
Speaker 4: Robert F. Kennedy Junior does become the Secretary of Health
Speaker 4: and Human Services, and certainly I think at the hearings
Speaker 4: his nomination hearings, there'll be a lot about some of
Speaker 4: the things that he has said in some of the
Speaker 4: positions he has taken on these very issues that you're
Speaker 4: talking about, So I suspect we will have to deal
Speaker 4: with those issues in the next few weeks.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Okay, yeah, it sounds good, Thanks Bob, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I like the suggestion. Okay, you're going to
Speaker 4: wrap the hour here with Kathy from Lunenburg. Kathy, you
Speaker 4: were next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi Dan Oh, Kenny, Welcome.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 7: I was just going to say RFK Junior, I think
Speaker 7: is a great pick, and for some of the points
Speaker 7: you were just mentioning, I think there's going to be
Speaker 7: a lot of things settle change, much needed change in
Speaker 7: terms of the food industry, particularly when it comes to
Speaker 7: children and you see all the dies and you know
Speaker 7: the previous college just mentioning about ad D. I think
Speaker 7: that was a really good point, so hopefully for the show.
Speaker 2: So you think that, I.
Speaker 4: Assume you think that Kennedy is going to say, Okay,
Speaker 4: we can no longer use these guys in cereals and
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean, when here's my question, here's
Speaker 7: my question, Okay, here's my question.
Speaker 4: As a Republican, I think you're a Republican. Normally Republicans say, hey,
Speaker 4: stay out of the boardroom.
Speaker 2: Let us do what we want to do. It's a
Speaker 2: free market. People can buy if they want to buy.
Speaker 4: You know, of course breakfast cereal that has that's you know,
Speaker 4: a world of colors, rainbow breakfast Cereal.
Speaker 5: So be it.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a fascinating conversation and argument. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you, Dan, I have regular conversations with a
Speaker 7: couple of other Republican moms and we're all all on
Speaker 7: the same page, you know. And I think particularly when
Speaker 7: it comes to the kids, and you see, and my
Speaker 7: kids are varying ages, my oldest to youngest twenty years.
Speaker 7: So I've seen. I've seen a wide range of things,
Speaker 7: particularly in the schools and with my last child, who
Speaker 7: now just graduated college a year ago. When he was young,
Speaker 7: I got more involved in terms of going in in
Speaker 7: you know, seeing children's behavior and learning about what the
Speaker 7: autism spectrum is and how you know, kids react to
Speaker 7: occupational therapy. But more importantly, someone had said to me
Speaker 7: and I thought, oh, you know, my daughters were fine, my,
Speaker 7: you know people will recognize.
Speaker 2: Me, Jathy.
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm going to have to hold you
Speaker 4: all over, Kathy, because you started down a road here
Speaker 4: that I kind of completed in twenty seconds. So therefore,
Speaker 4: stay there and I'll talk to you on the other
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Speaker 2: Uh, don't do this often. We're doing it twice tonight.
Speaker 2: Back on Night's side,