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Speaker 1: On location and driven by Victor Christlin Dods G.

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Speaker 2: Brown.

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Speaker 3: It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Well, Hello and welcome from BTV with Fire, Peach and Grill.

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Speaker 5: With a minute forty.

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Speaker 4: Five left of the game and Kansas City up thirty

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two to twenty nine, the Bills had a fourth and

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five and didn't convert, and they took over.

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Speaker 5: And without that first down, you had a chance.

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Speaker 1: You had two timeouts left, it was second down, you

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had a chance.

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know. All day, I've been all weird.

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I never get this way over football games.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. And I'm like, oh, this is this

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is kind of awful. You know, my team sucked this year,

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so I didn't stress all year. I stressed over both

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these games. First of all, I didn't want Philadelphia in there, no,

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I know, And I wanted Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: In I did too, and I wanted I wanted Buffalo Commanders.

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Speaker 5: And that sounds amazing.

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Speaker 1: It just sound, doesn't it a little bit?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Love it, right, Yeah, you have a rookie quarterback and

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went up.

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Speaker 5: And in the best quarterback in football this year. Yeah yeah,

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Well but can.

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Speaker 1: We just talk about it for a second. Wait to

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vote for the m v P until after the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think if you did that, Jayden looked

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Speaker 1: If you vote for the m v P after the playoffs,

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it's saquad Mar not even close. I mean, man, Josh today,

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Josh is so much with nothing this year.

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Speaker 5: Nothing. You don't have to want nothing to work with.

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Speaker 4: Well, it makes you, it makes you think this as

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a Bills fan. They have a lot of cap room

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next year. There's a lot of cap room. What did

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I do with these cameras? I had one over here?

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I'm twisted matter around.

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Speaker 5: I go back to the draft though.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine putting Worthy on the Bills? Well, I

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mean yeah, right, Well I'll leave it with him because

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he really is the breakdown guy the Bills.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna lost her words here because they didn't

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deserve to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Let's start.

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Speaker 5: Let's start there, all right.

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Speaker 6: Every mistake that they didn't make throughout the season they

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made today. They didn't force a put until the second half.

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Speaker 1: Well, how many fumbles did Josh have?

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Speaker 5: The tumbled the ball three.

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Speaker 6: Times today, I mean, but also he almost threw three

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picks to earlier in the game.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't his greatest game.

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Speaker 6: But yet it's all on him because it's always been

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on Josh Ally and there are a couple of push

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and the twitch push didn't work. They had no other

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fourth down play. Their best player besides Allen, James.

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Speaker 5: Cook was nowhere to be found on certain play.

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Speaker 6: He's like the last play the cokaid They I mean,

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they played a hell of a game.

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Speaker 1: And this game.

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Speaker 6: Sets you up for the perfect Josh Allen hero ball scenario.

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Speaker 5: He guys got the ball to.

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Speaker 6: Drive down the field, Kansas City kick the field goal.

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They didn't score a touchdown, they kick the field goal.

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So the worst case scenario, all you had to do

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was get there for Bess to kick a field goal,

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tie the game and let your defense handle it instead.

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You know it's second and ten, it's third and then

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and then let's run a screenplay. So now it's fourth

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and five. On third and ten. Now it's fourth and five,

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and Spagnulo sent the house now and he wasn't ready

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for it, and he says lock Cage should have.

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Speaker 1: Caught the ball.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing. Josh Allen got the.

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Speaker 6: Ball that your number one draft pick two years ago,

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and he couldn't catch the freaking ball, and you know.

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Speaker 5: You want to put this game on people, you want.

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Speaker 1: To put this game. Here's the facts.

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Speaker 6: Kansas City was better coached, better prepared than the Buffalo

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Speaker 5: And it's always gonna come down to this.

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Speaker 6: There's always another shoe that drops with this team every

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time they get in these situations. Got kill Mcermot putt like, look,

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here's the bottom line, though, you can't tell me that. Okay,

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so the Chris Bush, I'll tell you playing the arsenal

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on fourth and Water.

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Speaker 5: Show, Brady let you down today?

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Speaker 1: Do you have James Cook?

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Speaker 5: Who is you're coaching? James Cook wasn't on the field.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't on the field, and your biggest plays he wasn't.

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Speaker 5: On the field. Where was he?

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Speaker 1: He had your best.

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Speaker 6: Game, he's driving down that field that second to last drive.

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Speaker 5: Where was he? Where was the guy he was his

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second half?

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Speaker 6: He put the game in his hands, Like Thurman Thomas

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used to, Hey, let's calm down, let's go down the field,

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let's score.

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Speaker 1: But it's that out we got.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think like I mean, they were at

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the goal line and they weren't.

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Speaker 5: They handed to him once right and then the game

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that's bullshit.

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Speaker 6: They called out of the game because we gotta get cute.

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Speaker 5: Man, No, we gotta get.

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Speaker 1: Cute because they Brady blew his game. And you can

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say what you want about mcdermy. He doesn't run the offense.

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I know, thirteen second you can put on McDermott and

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I'm sure Mark is gonna text you mcdummy and everything else.

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong. It's on, it's on Brady.

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Speaker 1: I don't know on this one.

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Speaker 4: Well, Brady, let's put this way. Well, I have to

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say on this one, you can't call him. I don't

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think you could call him mcdummy on this one.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, you can't call mcdumy.

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Speaker 4: I never said I never said that everybody can like

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the Brady thing is a good point.

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Speaker 1: By the coaching things, a good point.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the coaching think, I'm talking about the

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offensive play calling. And this is, by the way, you

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got to give Joe Brady credit for how far he

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got the Buffalo Bills to get here this year. You

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can't just pull the rug out from under him to

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say fire, let's bs no.

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Speaker 5: But he didn't call a great game today.

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Speaker 6: And it's like they didn't have a second act Kansas

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Speaker 5: They stopped it right, And.

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Speaker 6: You can blame the refs for the calls.

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Speaker 5: All you want.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, that.

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Speaker 5: You had the scenario.

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Speaker 6: Everybody wanted Josh Allen with the football with the game

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on the line, and he actually got that pass off

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and don k K's hands and that kid, this is

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supposed to be his breakout year, couldn't catch the football.

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There's your football game. Playing the officials all you want.

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You didn't deserve to win this game. You didn't deserve

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to win this game. The officials made too many back

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calls official one.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I did.

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Speaker 1: I really the tot fair game.

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Speaker 5: They called the fair game.

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Speaker 4: They let them play. I thought in both games they

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let them play.

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Speaker 1: I really did.

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Speaker 4: The only question I would have is and more because

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I'm biased for the Bills on that fourth or have

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two guys on different angles.

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Speaker 5: He got it one not. I thought he got it

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all right, But it's gonna take like it's.

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Speaker 6: Almost like trying to convict somebody a partner. You have

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to have got on reasonable doubts overturn that call.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't do that. I didn't like that. Josh turned

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his back.

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Speaker 1: Once you turn your back, that ball is two yards

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behind you. You gotta go full force on that man.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna get a fumble.

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Speaker 1: Call in that.

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Speaker 5: Go full force, Josh, Josh, you had the best quarterback

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in the league this year. Go at it, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And again, James Cook should have been in a lot

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of those places running where Allen's running it.

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Speaker 5: Allen shouldn't be running all right.

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Speaker 4: So what next year you've got more room on the

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salary cap. You gotta get I would assume you're gonna

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get some vetch, somebody with experience in the backfield. Defensively, no,

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I mean yeah, your secondary was toasted today.

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Speaker 5: There's a toleraut. So you gotta remember this.

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Speaker 6: The Buffalo Bills were number one in the league turn

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in grabbing takeaways. Right, They were thirtieth in the NFL

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inforcing teams to punt.

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Speaker 5: They didn't fund, they didn't force the puns. Yeah, they

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didn't funch. They didn't force the Ravens to punch. They

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last week it's a fucked up punch.

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Speaker 6: And they didn't force the Chiefs to punch in the

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entire first half.

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Speaker 5: They forced two punts today.

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Speaker 1: They did they forced two puns.

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Speaker 5: Now they made I mean till a fan a hell

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to play a force a field goal. That's the scenario

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you wanted.

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Speaker 6: If if you, if you, if somebody said to you,

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Dan Bill, you know, Matt, Kevin, Craig, Peter, anybody, would

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you take what they gave us at the end of

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the game. Would you take that Josh Sales get the

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ball of pre minutes?

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Speaker 5: Yes, every single time.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So what happened when he got that ball back?

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I go, here's his shiny moment. He's gonna go down

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the field, lead him to a touchdown, and Josh Allen's

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gonna right out to the super Bowl. He's gonna get

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the Super Bowl MVP. He's gonna be the fucking best.

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Instead his team let him.

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Speaker 6: Do instead that Paul was Ink's hands.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and Spagnolo.

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Speaker 6: When I when I talk about being out coached, okay,

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when I talk about being out coach, I'm not talking

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about stupid stuff. I'm talking about the fact that Spagnolo

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was ready for every possible scenario and the Bill still

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put up twenty nine freaking points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they did. And let's be honest, Josh should never

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have gotten that pass off. No, somehow he got the

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pass off and hit Kate Caden.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen got that pass off.

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Speaker 1: Only Josh Allens or Josh Allen, Oh Patrick Mahomes Ever

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if that passage, yeah, I promise you.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna I'm not

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gonna give Dulta the goat horns for this job.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: There's plenty of blame to go around for for everybody

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signing with your offensive coordinator and your secondary also your

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special teams coach needs to go to. We could talk

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about that later and if anyone wants to talk about

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the McDermot challenge in the first half. Even if he

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got the challenge right, there was a penalty on the play,

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it would have been automatic first down for Casey anyway.

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But the fact that he actually challenged it.

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Speaker 5: Was kind of bizarre.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's not that's not on McDermott though, No,

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it's not the guy upstairs, Sean Terry.

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Speaker 6: But here's the thing, though, mcdermot's gotta know that, okay,

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But if we challenge it, so what, it's still a

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first town. All he's doing is arguing about yardage you

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wasted a timeout and the challenge there, but that's minor.

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This came down to your your secondary and your offensive

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coordinator tonight, right, your quarterback did everything he could and

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by the way, he did not play a clean game today.

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They got away with it. They were there, but those

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twitch pushes to the work. There was no alternative. Your best,

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your second best playoff offense wasn't on the field when

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Speaker 5: On the line in key moments. That's coaching.

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Speaker 4: I just I go, boy, could they be back here

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again next year?

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Speaker 5: You hope?

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Speaker 1: Right, I knew thing could happen then what you just feel.

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Speaker 5: Like this was the season though.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this team will be much better next

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year because they're gonna grab a veteran safety. That's what

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Speaker 5: I mean, he did better this year. He's had a

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couple of picks, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Even the third string back up. I don't even take

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this my second string. You gotta get some guys back

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there now. Brude Baker's off the market, So if you're

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not gonna go veteran.

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Speaker 5: You got to draft a great.

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Speaker 1: Safety in the first round, right, I mean, I hate

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to say it, but the first round you're gonna have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean you well, let's put it this

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way though. Here's the thing though, I also wrote Brandon

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Bean's name down as another thing. So I've always believed this,

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not on what you believe, madd And I don't know

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what you think, Bill or No and Craig might answer

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this better. The story is that Brandon Bean, the general manager,

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has always argued that is my draft room, that is.

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Speaker 5: My draft board. I make the picks.

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Speaker 6: But all their first round picks, with the exception of Allen,

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since mc derwert's been the head coach, with the exception

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of Allen and Cocaine, have all been defensive players, or

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their first picks have all been defensive players.

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Speaker 5: And only Oliver shown.

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Speaker 6: Up today, and Oliver showed up on a messed up

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mesh by case, or they may have gone back down

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the field. Score again, this could have been a blowout. Okay,

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it all takes this one drive like that to undo

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a game.

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Speaker 1: Your first picks. Kyer Elam.

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Speaker 5: Gets hurt, He's done for the game. With sull Douglass

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is old. He's done, he's.

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Speaker 1: Done what he can.

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Speaker 6: He's too old. Kyer Elam is not good. He's been

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a bust. But they do Mar Hamlin.

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Speaker 5: Look, you said, he's like he didn't have a choice though. Ye,

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you're right, he didn't have a choice.

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Speaker 1: So they got to go the face.

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Speaker 5: But the problem is when they've gone defense. But those

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guys have been good, they haven't been great. That's my point. Well,

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they got to be great this time.

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Speaker 4: And but the other side of that too, is everybody

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at this point in the season is banged up.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeahn't that hurt you?

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Speaker 7: Don't you say, no, We're not gonna blame injuries here. No, no, no,

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I'm saying, yeah, Mahome's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna tear you apart. Like he said, they've missed on

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I didn't realize they missed on that may defensive pas Oh,

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you have to get the best safety in the draft,

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and you're gonna get it. There's a lot of safeties

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in this draft. You've got to get the best. Was

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the Bills are first round pick. He was first overall.

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Speaker 6: The guys said, put the put the playbook on the

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play coach, I'm coming.

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Speaker 5: He still hasn't learning the defense four years defense.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are just plug and play secondary guys and they.

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Speaker 6: Are amazing very Sam Dermot Gilmore was Semon Dermott's a

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hell of a secondary coach. The fact that those guys

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got to be up to speech. So I mean when

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I say the Bills got out coach today, it was

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more of a Monday through Saturday type of out coaching. Okay,

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not a Sunday coaching. There weren't many mistakes. Sean McDermott

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did not make any mistakes today and other than the

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challengers was kind of odd. We're not calling tie him

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out early, like when there was like two and a

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half minutes to go, he let the clock run down.

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Those are minor who had the chance to win the game,

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not or tie it trying to win it. You had

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that chance and instead let's get cute.

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Speaker 1: With the ball and that was it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's like Josh Sala can't do it all

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by himself.

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Speaker 1: And he almost did.

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Speaker 5: That's the best part.

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Speaker 1: He almost mad. Reason that you're there is because he

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all year by himself.

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Speaker 6: If Josh Allen's removed from this team, they are back

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in the drought. Got they're like winning gas. They might

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go with seventeen. That show kick. I'm not choking man.

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He is that damn good and he's not gonna.

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Speaker 5: Even win the m v P this year. It's gonna

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go to Lamarch. I hope he does.

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Speaker 6: But the all pro voting typically goes the same direction

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as the MVP is probably gonna be Lamar.

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Speaker 5: Well, they may go co they could. They could in

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their right world, Josh should get the m v P.

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Speaker 1: But now do we talk about let's include the playoffs

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in the m v P talk. It doesn't even announced

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till a super Bowl weekend.

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Speaker 5: Right, we can include the players. You could.

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Speaker 1: You could take.

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Speaker 7: One by far as the MVP. Right, you kind of

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hope that he runs Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: They never want to include the playoffs because they always

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end up giving it to the guy who wins the

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Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 5: That's why they don't want to do that. I don't

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I don't include super Bowl. I just do playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know what you mean. Then the

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argument becomes, well and we don't we just move back

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so they have to do the regular season.

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Speaker 6: See, I'm one of these guys who says, okay, get

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rid of the Defensive Player of the Year and the

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Offensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 5: Have one m VP, have one Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: So that includes everybody, right.

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Speaker 6: So that way, like, okay, who is the most valuable player?

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We know who's most now we know that's the most

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important guy for his team. Who's the player of the year.

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We're not say Kwon Barkley absolute, but numbers, it's either

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Saquan or it's Lamar Jackson. Because now didn't have the numbers,

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but he did. He didn't need them, but he carried

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the tea, he carried the team. But he like when

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he his numbers, you're like, well that's those aren't great numbers.

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Speaker 1: They're not great numbers. But you even have to Lamar

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didn't have great numbers last year. He didn't all in

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Dallas had the best numbers last year. Yeah, yeah, got

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down first time. DAC should have won m VP last.

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Speaker 6: The reason that the reason they gave it to Baltimore

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was that they Christmas Day, they go into San Francisco,

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they end up beating the piss out of the Viners,

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who end up going to the Super Bowl, and everybody's like,

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well they have home field events. They haven't locked up.

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We're gonna give it to who else? Were gonna give

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it to you? The quarterback the best team in the conference,

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right in the league.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, hats off to Kansas City. I mean

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we got to eat it from Nick Bright for the

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next oh year. Hats off to Kansas City. That's why those.

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Speaker 1: Talking heads Homes Lives Mountain is still Mahomes. You know what,

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the same guys that said you were gonna suck this

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year and you're gonna rebuild, it'll be terrible, and you're

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in the championship, You're in the championship game and a

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few mistakes you win this game.

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Speaker 5: Right, But I mean, this is this is hot heartbreaking,

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This is heartbreaking. This is this is heart breaking.

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Speaker 1: Another one of like an eleven It.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't as ugly as the eleven seconds only because or

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thirteen seconds, because you actually had that figure and statched

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away from this.

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Speaker 6: This was this was the Montana scenario, the Lway scenario,

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the Brady the Manning scenario for Super Bowl forty two.

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Speaker 5: This was like here it is, kid, and you.

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Speaker 6: Know what, David Tyree caught that ball eli that alien

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Manning threw Dealtakkad did not catch the ball that Josh

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Allen threw. That's the difference. That's the difference your first

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round picks. So dude, catch that football and you know what,

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I can't put it all a delta cake? Is that

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secondary will garbage today?

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Speaker 4: In that moment, you got to catch the ball. Now,

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who do we root for? Do we want to see

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a team do it three times in a row?

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Speaker 5: This maybe the first time.

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Speaker 1: This may be the.

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Speaker 5: First time we want to root for. This is maybe

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the first time.

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Speaker 6: This maybe be the first time I ever decided I

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don't want to watch the Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowl, and I always watched the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Guys, I get it for me.

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Speaker 1: In probably ninety percent of America, who doesn't hate the

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Kansas Chiefs. You hate to see them three times row.

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Speaker 5: These are two teams. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Hey, when Washington was scoring today, this place, yeah it was.

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Speaker 5: It was lit and they were down and they were storing.

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Speaker 6: People were lighting it up. I'm like, okay, maybe they

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could come back and win this. It was exciting. I mean, like,

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I mean, I mean, like the reason watching the lost

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that game. He can't turn the ball over four times

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like that. You didn't in the first playing the game,

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our first our favorite listener. Vinnie's on the line, Vinnie,

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what did you want to say?

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Speaker 8: I'm just wondering, though you're not coming through.

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Speaker 9: I can't get you on the He came up a

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notifiason though, but.

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Speaker 8: I can't see you on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Oh video, No, we are video and and there we

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are here. Montmorrow is going to call up momentarily. Thank you.

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I'm getting so many texts.

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Speaker 6: I got text from national writers telling people, I'm sorry,

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Vinnie take from NFL network, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: Bro, Thank you, Vinny, thank you for telling us we

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are on the we are for bills fans right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so upset. I didn't even get us on camera,

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add I did.

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Speaker 1: N's upset. Well, that's all right.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate Anny calling on that heartbreaking launch. I hate

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seeing this with Kansas City if he.

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Speaker 5: Had at the same time to see them do it.

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I mean, should we call Mark and ask him what

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he thinks about the game? We can have I have?

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Speaker 1: You should call Mark and he probably won't answer, by

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the way, I will.

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Speaker 4: I can try to call Mark. I will say I

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feel like I now and it's it's too soon. This

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one really stings, it does, and like it really really stings.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not a Bills. Is this worse than thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Seconds or second? No, no, thirteen seconds. To me, it

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was worse because it was worse.

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Speaker 5: Just bad.

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Speaker 6: The problem is those that you could go the following

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week and maybe Cincinnati beat you because a year after

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you had Cincinnati at home, they kicked your ass. The

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following year, you had kc at home in a divisional

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game and they beat you at home. I mean, and

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there's Alan at the podium now and he looks dejected,

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and it's.

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Speaker 5: Not your fault, role, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not his fault. Yeah, I mean, look, I watched the

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videos of him saying I just wanted to bring a

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championship to this city and he generally means it. Yeah,

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I say it all the time, like big talk. Right,

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this guy is shebout the Bills fans.

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Speaker 5: He loves this town.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he's fucking amazing and that includes Rochester too. When

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he says train of camp man, he signs for every

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know the sign for adults. He signs for kids when

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old people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But when he leaves the field, lot, I'm sorry,

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he's got.

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Speaker 1: Some, they got some.

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Speaker 4: They go crazy when he leaves. All right, I have

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Mark you ready. Should we try to call Marlow, Yeah,

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go ahead, he might he's got his chick hold shirt on.

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He's going to sleep.

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Speaker 5: I would send him a link.

473
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Speaker 1: But then Yellow, Hey, I think he was going to answer.

474
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Speaker 4: No, Matt said, you wouldn't answer. I don't know because

475
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,039
he thought you were going to bed and stuff. I

476
00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:48,759
mean it makes sense, you got to get up early.

477
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,799
Uh fuh, thoughts real quick, and I know we're going

478
00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:53,440
to see you tomorrow, but thoughts real quick.

479
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 2: You know, I got really nothing to say.

480
00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want to fire.

481
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Speaker 1: No, I don't want to flare mcderman.

482
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,519
Speaker 2: I don't want to fire get fired.

483
00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:08,559
Speaker 6: No, nobody gets fired like what Brady Special teams cout Brady.

484
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 5: But I thought Brady failed you. I mean you have

485
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to fire them, but some blame has fire them.

486
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

487
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're.

488
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,039
Speaker 6: Gonna put if you're gonnassessed, blame and maybe Mark you're

489
00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,440
with us. You got to put it in these three camps.

490
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,240
Your secondary was terrible today.

491
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:21,559
Speaker 4: Now.

492
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Speaker 6: I know they're banged up, and they were doing it

493
00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:25,720
on a shoe string budget with hambling back there and

494
00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:28,200
Elan back there, but they didn't. I mean, Elon was

495
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,319
a first round pick. He didn't show up to play.

496
00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:33,119
They just they just they were just dumbfounded. Now Mulano

497
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,799
had to play of the game earlier and it kind

498
00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:36,880
of turned the tide. They had a chance to win

499
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,720
the game, and then Shortan Phillips made up for his

500
00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:39,400
gaff earlier.

501
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Speaker 5: He had his chance.

502
00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:43,279
Speaker 6: But you know, your secondary sucked and your offensive coordinator.

503
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Speaker 5: Fed up in key moments, he kicked come for are.

504
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I'm sorry, he's mark wrong. We'll see you tomorrow.

505
00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 4: You well, all right, buddy, let me grab this other call.

506
00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:56,759
I'm sorry, Peter Montemerno is on the line. Uh, Peter, Pete, Pete.

507
00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,279
Were were stinging over here at BTV. But I have

508
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,720
to say, BTV, it is like sitting in a luxury box.

509
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: I had delicious nachos.

510
00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:07,799
Speaker 5: Danny got chicken dinners. By the way, those fingers were

511
00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:10,880
like the size of feet. They were like chicken feet.

512
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Speaker 4: So it comes down, he goes, I thought I didn't

513
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order a fish front.

514
00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:18,319
Speaker 1: Do not see the review last week on that? Yeah,

515
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,640
and then tomorrow the plate one drops tomorrow.

516
00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, tomorrow.

517
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 6: Is gonna be a huge which reachs which is today

518
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by the time you're listening, So make sure you can.

519
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,799
Speaker 5: Hear yes, So Peter Foughts go ahead.

520
00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, man, you know these are the games you wish

521
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,039
you lost it if you two to nothing.

522
00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, you're right.

523
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,079
Speaker 1: There's so many things in.

524
00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: The game you could point back to, you know, the fact.

525
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 10: That you know they went for two and then they

526
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took that penalty down to the one yard line.

527
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Speaker 2: They went for two and get it. There's so many

528
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things you can go back to.

529
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Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, at the beginning

530
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of the game, the defense had zero answer for Casey,

531
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and they made.

532
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: Some adjustments in the second half.

533
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Speaker 10: They see shot himself from the it a little bit

534
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,359
without way, Like I didn't take notes.

535
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: During the game.

536
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 10: I'd have to go back and watch the film to

537
00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:06,640
get really scientific about it.

538
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,039
Speaker 5: But Dan she covered.

539
00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: You want to share Danny's notes like you're back in class.

540
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 5: It's crazy, though, and they're not even complete, and it

541
00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:16,200
is crazy.

542
00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: This is just leave it there.

543
00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:19,079
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

544
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:20,279
Speaker 1: I love it.

545
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I know I love it.

546
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 5: True he is I don't injure this ship.

547
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:26,079
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.

548
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Speaker 6: I have a bad short term memory, so I have

549
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:36,000
to write stuff down to what's Here's here's the difference

550
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,880
you're a cool fan.

551
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,599
Speaker 5: Danny get Danny's uptight. I watched Danny's face got all

552
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:42,599
at one point in the beginning. I was trying to

553
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:43,160
stay calm.

554
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:44,799
Speaker 1: I know, I saw you stand up.

555
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 5: I've had a number two waiting for a four hours.

556
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:47,319
Speaker 1: Came over.

557
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: Okay, you need to tell me with.

558
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 10: How good Josh Allen is, but how good this offense

559
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,519
has been all year? You don't have another play un

560
00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:05,160
fourth and a foot when they're stopping you the entire game, or.

561
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: At least only letting you allow allowing you to get.

562
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: A yard or so. How does not have some more creativity?

563
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,599
Speaker 2: And I said your.

564
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 10: Bill situational football, that he is not prepared for situational football.

565
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: Said all runners coaching? Why no cook?

566
00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: Though?

567
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: On that?

568
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 5: I mean there was when was he had why don't cook?

569
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: The whole game?

570
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 10: I was in the middle of typing a text you

571
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160
but the Bills was too too high tempo. When he

572
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,440
took himself out of the game, When did Thurman ever

573
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:32,759
do that?

574
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: You know, when he took himself he took himself out, Peter.

575
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,799
Speaker 2: I think I think he did.

576
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Speaker 1: Personally, I think he took him out. But I could

577
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be one hundred that's just my opinion. I didn't see

578
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that that will turn Cook.

579
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Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you right now. Yeah, was he

580
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,079
injured in some way? He looked like he was doing well.

581
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,559
Speaker 1: He had a thirty three yard run.

582
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,279
Speaker 2: I get it.

583
00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 10: Okay, fine, this is the eight each championship game.

584
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: You're one of the best players in the league.

585
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: Go deep, brother, how.

586
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 10: Are you and say it's not Cook, Say it's Brady,

587
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,680
Say it's McDermott. Why that How would you pull him

588
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,240
off the field.

589
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 4: Well, I was wondering the same thing, and you know,

590
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,920
Matt pointed out, He's like, you know, Brady kind of

591
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,319
let you down today because some of the play calls

592
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,000
just weren't there.

593
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Speaker 5: As you're saying that, you.

594
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Speaker 4: Don't have another play call on fourth and one, you know,

595
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960
And in the end, as much as we really can't

596
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,839
hang it on him, and Danny's made that pretty clear,

597
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Kim KG should have caught that ball.

598
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: He got one hundred percent should have caught it.

599
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 10: I understand that the wacky play in that one, when

600
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480
the quarterback gets outside the pocket, all the receivers are caught,

601
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,319
come back to.

602
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: The quarterback, come back to the quarterback.

603
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,799
Speaker 10: So I mean obviously Josh Allen had his eyes down

604
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,759
the field and he's it. And you know, if you're

605
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,359
out there running a play, running a route that deep,

606
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,759
in that position, in that moment of.

607
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 1: The game, you have to catch it. Yeah, you have

608
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to catch it.

609
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: So, Peter, where would you think the Bills need to

610
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,440
spend some of their money special team's coach one cap

611
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:06,160
money the second period?

612
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: I mean they got to spend their money on defense man?

613
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure he did.

614
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,559
Speaker 4: I think second director, as Matt was saying, I think

615
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:13,359
secondary they do.

616
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean, like Miles going to be your safety?

617
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, wants to trade who's not going to be

618
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:20,079
your safety next year?

619
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: Handlon hand one, who's not going to be your No.

620
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,279
I hate to say they got to spend money there.

621
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,160
They need to spend money in the quarterback. We come

622
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,000
down because of what happened to him on the field.

623
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,359
Everybody feels bad.

624
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 5: For sure, he should not be in an NFL roster.

625
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,160
I don't think so he's not good. I think he's

626
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,200
a he's a backup, but he.

627
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: Makes a pleasure. He makes a pleasure.

628
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:44,799
Speaker 5: He's not like he's a He shouldn't be in the

629
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,880
UFL next week or three weeks from now.

630
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: You're starting, right.

631
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 10: But we need a defense to end that's going to

632
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,880
monitor the edge of the defense and monitor get pressure

633
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,680
on the quarterback. I mean, russo let this defense down.

634
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,240
I can't not tell you how many times tonight like

635
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,319
taking an inside lane to the quarterback and allowing the

636
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,480
outside from my home. Now, if you're going to take

637
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,799
an inside lane, fine, make sure there's a play where

638
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:20,640
you have a linebacker scraping off your end to be contained.

639
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: There was it? Now?

640
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:23,519
Speaker 2: Could the linebacker missed the call?

641
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: Sure? There I saw von Miller do at the end.

642
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,119
He took a spin move to.

643
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: The inside with no help to the outside at all.

644
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 10: So why why do these guys can think you to

645
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,880
do a job that isn't there?

646
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: Do your job? So you're one to eleven? Is von back

647
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,920
next season? No?

648
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. You're like you'd be like

649
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,599
thirty seven right when eight years old he stole that.

650
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,319
Speaker 1: Thank he's gone, he doesn't have it anymore.

651
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,319
Speaker 6: And Peter you and I said when they signed him,

652
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,880
like wait, watch right, and everybody else buffles like, oh we.

653
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 5: Gotta stop traffics. We've got von Miller.

654
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,519
Speaker 6: That's where it's like when Bills fans has such low

655
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:02,839
sports self esteem, it's.

656
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,559
Speaker 5: Like, no, you gotta take bigger than.

657
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,759
Speaker 1: That, just to remember the worst GM in football, Yeah,

658
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,599
Jerry Jones.

659
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:16,319
Speaker 11: Jerry turned down Van Miller von Miller because he said

660
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,079
that's too much money for you, and the Bills were like, hey,

661
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:20,400
here's the brainstruck.

662
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: But you know what, they were one play away from me.

663
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,839
This guy's been great in the postseason. He's won a

664
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,680
Super Bowl MVP.

665
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 5: Yep, he should have won the second one with the Rams.

666
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,039
Speaker 1: He got screwed out of it. He's coming off that

667
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:34,880
it's a great signing at the time.

668
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: Now he's he's.

669
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,279
Speaker 4: Washed, washed, And I think that this is uh, I

670
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,839
don't know, p I mean, I thought the game was

671
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,200
called pretty fairly. I think that the only thing I

672
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,400
had is even on the challenge, I didn't I didn't

673
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,240
get the challenge.

674
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,079
Speaker 5: I don't know why, because there was a flag in

675
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,880
the play, so it didn't seem to make a whole.

676
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,519
Speaker 4: Lot of sense other than maybe to give your guys

677
00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:58,759
a chance to catch their breath.

678
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: That's the only thing they could. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

679
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,079
Speaker 10: I mean I want to wonder how it wasn't in

680
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,160
the reception, It wouldn't it mattered, But yeah, it looked like.

681
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: In the reception evolved at the ground.

682
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,559
Speaker 10: It wasn't time open, No, but at that time it

683
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,240
was fan But.

684
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,519
Speaker 6: The fact that somebody upstairs told McDermott to challenge it,

685
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:21,319
even though there was a flag on a holding call

686
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119
there which would have been automatic first down, they decided

687
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000
to sacrifice a timeout and a challenge for yardage.

688
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's just talk about fifteen yards. Yeah,

689
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,920
it's asinine.

690
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: It's just it ended up working out in their favor

691
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:36,079
because Ken say stored them Buffalo enough time to come

692
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,079
back on the film score again, answer it. But the

693
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:40,039
point you can't think like that ahead you gotta think,

694
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,359
I mean, the head coach, but that's minor, that's minor.

695
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Peter your first round, your first defensive pick in every

696
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720
single draft since mcdurry's been here. Tremaine Edmans has gone,

697
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:53,519
Trey White's gone. Everybody who's left all failed today. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,000
except for right Oliver. Except for od Oliver who recovered

699
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,519
a fumbled on.

700
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:58,799
Speaker 1: A mesh and he had a great year though he.

701
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 10: Did, Yeah he did, but you know he had he

702
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,920
had a chance to make a four yard tackle for

703
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160
a loss in the backfield, running back aside.

704
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: He had a little better attitude.

705
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,599
Speaker 10: Today and decided, you know, he got out of the

706
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,640
grasp of at Oliver and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, to me, it just looked like

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some of the bills are going through the motions.

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Speaker 1: It's a certain part of the game.

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Speaker 2: So I will say, as you said that, yeah, maybe

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it was.

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Speaker 1: It was called pret fairly.

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Speaker 2: But my god, that that fourth.

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Speaker 5: And one fourth God, yeah, you need like the Bruder

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film for that.

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Speaker 1: And even then, I mean, but.

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Speaker 5: You have the two referees go to one ref.

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Speaker 6: The far side rep said it was a first down

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and the near side of ref said it was short.

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And if you look at the replay, the replay showed

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that he actually, like just barely, like you said, by

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a blank hair got in there and that was a

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text and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all he has to do.

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Speaker 5: It's an actual measurement, by the way, for real, right

726
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it is. You can look it up.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: For a first round touchdown. You you just got to

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break that plane. Yes he did it, right, that's yeah,

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that's the one questionable I mean.

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Speaker 10: And now it's going to be another however long It

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is the forwards with the draft and camp where.

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Speaker 6: Everybody pretends to have watched college football last year and

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tells you who to draft, where everybody tells.

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Speaker 1: You who to caire.

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Speaker 6: All the apologists will be you know what, what if

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so and so. Look, everybody's got injuries. Man, that's where

738
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you got to overcome it. And they almost and they

739
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almost did. If Delton Kak catches that ball like David

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Tyreek catching Eli Manning, we might be talking about.

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Speaker 5: A different game here. But k didn't catch that ball.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, he's kind of he was the

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second leading receiver this.

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Speaker 5: Year and what you would you know it? Would you

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know it this year?

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Speaker 1: Pete, you wouldn't. He's a beast.

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Speaker 9: He is.

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Speaker 5: Just I don't want him.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think is one I as welcome.

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Speaker 10: I mean enough, I think we need to move on

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to another leader who needs to be really.

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Speaker 2: For culture in that place I do.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna be, but they're not gonna do it.

754
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: Attitude. There needs to be a different attitude with this team.

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Speaker 5: The only thing is they're not gonna do it though.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's I know, I know, I'm just

757
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saying that they I wish that Harry would just wake

758
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up in the morning and you know what, we.

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Speaker 1: Got to go in a different direction.

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Speaker 2: We're wasting generational talent and Josh Allen. But unless you

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go out a ton of money.

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Speaker 1: For defenseach, who is better out there that's going to

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replace me? I would love to know right now, other

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than the dude.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any.

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Speaker 5: The other guy that's the guy in Chapel Hill. All right, Josh,

767
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I got this.

768
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Speaker 1: You don't want him. You don't want him.

769
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Speaker 6: Because your entire organization like X he leaves to be

770
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like when Lebron leaves the team, it's like a hurricane

771
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:37,839
just to go.

772
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Speaker 5: So but you got to take that chist. Do you

773
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want to win a.

774
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl with a guy who's done it more than

775
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anybody on his.

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Speaker 5: Own or although any reads catching up with him right now?

777
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Or do you just keep rolling going with McDermott.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there.

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Speaker 4: There was talk and I think he did interview or

780
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have been requested to be interviewed with some teams. Brady, Yeah,

781
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Joe Brady, Joe Brady.

782
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Speaker 5: And he turned down the New Orleans opportunity.

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Speaker 10: Well it might be, you know, it's just such a

784
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broad rush through or say not after tonight. But when

785
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you it's all that situational football for guess, he's these.

786
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Speaker 2: These you know, the all the the uh.

787
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Speaker 10: The platitudes that they're using these interviews or they say,

788
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:24,119
oh yeah, complimentary football. Enough, it's all about situational football.

789
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And it showed me that Brady wasn't ready for the

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situation where they had Josh run fourth and one eight.

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They were the Chandasy was ready for that. We were

792
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just I felt like we were rushing. I felt like

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we were nerve fair.

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Speaker 1: It didn't seem like we had.

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Speaker 6: Right like in the second half they started running the ball.

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It was like, oh yeah, remember this isn't the Ravens,

797
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,680
this is the Chiefs. They're only eight, so that's pretty

798
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,680
good against the run. The Chiefs or the Ravens were

799
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number one, and what happened. Cook's rattling them off man

800
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right down the field, say all right, guys, let's calm down,

801
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let's go down the field, let's run the ball, and

802
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,440
all of a sudden, all right, now we're getting somewhere.

803
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,240
They built some momentum, but unfortunately they didn't have an

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00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,960
answer for that fourth to one play, and part of

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it and my friend Dan Jerich brought this up in

806
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a text. He goes, here's and he was drafted by

807
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the Braves, he coached college baseball, and he goes, look,

808
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he goes, if they don't run that play and it

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doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: Why didn't you run that play?

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Speaker 6: So it's almost like you're outthinking yourself. The problem is

812
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is that it got stopped twice. There was no other

813
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alternative at that point. How do you get stopped on

814
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that play? Your bread and butter play that the Eagles

815
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never screw up like as often as you have, I

816
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mean they got beat almost got beat on it.

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Speaker 1: Last week.

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Speaker 6: Everybody said, why don't you run that play? So they

819
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run that plate and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 5: I have at right, kids.

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Speaker 1: Three times.

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Speaker 5: Matt, you're feel it all right here.

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Speaker 1: This is your fault. I'm sorry because.

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Speaker 10: You guys remember that one play where they draw them

826
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off side right, Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they did, and it yeah.

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Speaker 10: And then finally we got to go for it and

829
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that's when Josh fumbled and luckily he got.

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Speaker 1: It back on the first out. So when he jumped

831
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and he left over.

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Speaker 10: The the high up there in the garbage and trash

833
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,920
in the middle, and that ball was on the ground,

834
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but he recovered.

835
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Speaker 2: It and the Bills carried on.

836
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Speaker 5: But if you.

837
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Speaker 1: Go back to the first drive of the game and

838
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Joshua's overthrown people, he was trying to do too much.

839
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Speaker 5: It was almost too overhyp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the problem was he never got to catch

841
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,239
his breath because they have to rely on him, so

842
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,800
you have to put it in James Cook at that point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the idea behind these this new offensive coordinator's minds

844
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is Okay, on first and ten, you want to get

845
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as many yards as possible.

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Speaker 5: If you throw a pass and it's incomplete.

847
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Speaker 6: Now second down, if you call a run play, you're

848
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gonna get ostracized by all the analytics guys because you're

849
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not going to get it toime. So now you're setting

850
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,239
you off yourself up for third and long. So it's

851
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,320
almost like but if you run a running play on

852
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
first down and you don't get much, now you know

853
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,800
you have to throw on second down. So it's again

854
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,840
you're out thinking yourself. And josh came out a little

855
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,559
too jacked. He almost got picked off twice in that

856
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,159
first SI, you know, and lucky cool.

857
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: If you really look at what Philadelphia did and even

858
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,199
the Ravens who fell short. Don't forget they started h

859
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,599
to two. You run that fucking ball, Yeah, run the

860
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:15,039
ball down people's throats. And the Egos scored seven touchdowns.

861
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Say you know my passing touchdowns the head.

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Speaker 5: Zero zero zero.

863
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Speaker 10: And that's the thing I mean, when you're doing that,

864
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,880
when you're able to pick up chunks three and four

865
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840
in the rue game chunks, now you have the defense

866
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drop down to the box. You have a defender come

867
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,239
into the box, and that's when you can open up

868
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,840
the play action.

869
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Speaker 2: That's where you can open up the d day down

870
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the field. So why didn't they start like that?

871
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,119
Speaker 1: You know, we'll never know. We'll never know.

872
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: But all right, Peter, well we'll get more, uh later

873
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,400
in the week. We'll touch base again.

874
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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having night guy, Thanks Peter, thank you.

875
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Should we try one more call, you'll pick up I

876
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:56,840
don't know, one more.

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Speaker 5: Call, let's do it, yeah, Greg Connor, Oh.

878
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Speaker 1: Boy, let's just say this is gonna be a long window.

879
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,840
What if he does well, we'll just see.

880
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Speaker 5: Just say, if he's.

881
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Painting corner, they would have once night.

882
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 5: Probably. Let's just see. This will be our our last thing.

883
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Speaker 4: We're just this entire episode brought to you by BTV

884
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:16,800
would fire pizza and grill on the mall of Grease.

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Speaker 5: Ridge and Greg Gooseboka, okay.

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: And come here and watch because every seat is is

887
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,719
is great no matter what the sporting Yeah, you're seriously.

888
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Speaker 5: It's not a bad scene. And he said it earlier

889
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,039
this week. He goes, Man, it's like being in in

890
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,079
a luxury box. I go, it is. It is like

891
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:32,360
being in a luxury.

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Speaker 4: Boxy, Greg. We're we're on the podcast. We're at BTV

893
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,239
just wrapping up, and we thought we'd give you a

894
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,360
one quick call just to see how you're holding up.

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Speaker 9: Oh god, damn it, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I am.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: It's in business and in life expectually in sport it's

899
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:58,599
about making a goddamn play. Yeah, you got to make

900
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a play.

901
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 9: Either the defense makes the player, the.

902
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Speaker 12: Offense makes the play.

903
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 9: Josh Allen and the offense had an opportunity to make

904
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a play.

905
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Speaker 8: Josh makes the play out of his ass.

906
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Speaker 9: Dalton kid fucking dropped it.

907
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 5: He dropped the just say preaching for ten minutes.

908
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Speaker 9: I mean it, it's just simple as that. What last

909
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:28,840
year it was, it was dig Dig didn't make the play.

910
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719
You know, and this year a Dalton contained. I mean,

911
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Josh made a play out of his ass, Colvid out.

912
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 8: Of his ass to give them a chance on that play.

913
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Speaker 9: I mean, look, there's so many things that happened before that,

914
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,360
and we'll talk about guy said, but in the end,

915
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,800
it comes to that, and that happened, and and and

916
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,760
then and then we have a chance right at the

917
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,639
end for the team, our defense to make a play.

918
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Speaker 8: But yet Andy Reid and his offense have a play

919
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,159
design that you can't stop.

920
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 9: And the bill didn't stop that. They made the play,

921
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:06,760
and we lose.

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00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,599
Speaker 12: And that's why they are the two times defending through

923
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:14,000
both champions and we're the fucking mother.

924
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 9: Son of the bitches who can't win a fucking AFC championship.

925
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Speaker 6: For super Bow, Gregor, comes down to Monday through Saturday.

926
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Greg That's where it came down. Monday through Saturday. That's

927
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where this game was won this week. Monday through Saturday.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we got off coach, Yeah, we got

929
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out coaching.

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Speaker 9: I mean we're are we a good team, Yes, we're

931
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,679
one of the best teams in the NFL, But you

932
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,119
know what, we're not the best coaching. Stat We got

933
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,719
off coach, we're like number three or number four, which

934
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,519
is really cool, but it fucking stocks because you're never gonna.

935
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Speaker 5: Run a super court, right because the other three are

936
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,239
in your conference.

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Speaker 6: If you were, if you were in the NFC, you'd

938
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:56,679
be like playing, we'll geting rid of for the Chiefs.

939
00:38:56,679 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: Wait, if it's not Kansas City, who's the best coach staff.

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00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,079
Speaker 5: In uh?

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Speaker 1: In the in the NFL?

942
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Speaker 5: But I give the Chiefs, yeah, and then who?

943
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Speaker 6: I think the Niners have a hell of the coaching staff.

944
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Speaker 1: That's how he does.

945
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Speaker 5: But they don't they get there though. I didn't get

946
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the Shy.

947
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 13: Had choked Shanny had choked in the Super Bowl because

948
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the NFCU But if the Bills choke in the a

949
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,679
SC championship for the Divisional so that we never know

950
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whether we can get to.

951
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,559
Speaker 1: The next colump.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think I think the best coaches.

953
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 12: I think you got the Chiefs, and then I think

954
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,960
it's the forty nine ers in.

955
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 9: The Eagles, and then it's the Bills, and then it's

956
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:37,840
the Ravens.

957
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,559
Speaker 6: I can't go with the Eagles, Greg, I could go

958
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,440
with their GM, their best I think they have the

959
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,920
best GM.

960
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,119
Speaker 5: I think the Rams have a better coaching staff. I agree, Rams.

961
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
I think the Ravens solid.

962
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't put the Ravens up there, but I

963
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:50,519
do put the Rams up there.

964
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,679
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I think that. Yeah, yeah, I would say.

965
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I just man, I don't know, I think

966
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,519
your top three though, I really think it's Rams.

967
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: I feel like Greg and we've said this a lot tonight,

968
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,599
and it's you know, your mind is all over the

969
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,480
place right after disappointing loss like this. But I would

970
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:12,039
say that Brady seems to be kind of the coaching

971
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:15,840
problem today. Why wasn't there another play for a fourth

972
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,920
and one or something?

973
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 6: Why was James Cook off the field that.

974
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 9: I you know, I mean.

975
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,559
Speaker 12: During the game itself, during the game itself, you know,

976
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,639
uh you saw on multiple occasions when when when when

977
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,320
the Chiefs needed a third down conversion?

978
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: Right.

979
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: One of the.

980
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:43,199
Speaker 9: Things that that that Andy Reid does extremely well and

981
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,920
as a defensive player, he overloads zoned right.

982
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,639
Speaker 12: So he'll overload the right side of the field, the

983
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,599
right zone, and then he'll level lower level of mid

984
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,079
level and upper level.

985
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 9: And then he lets Patrick Mahomes make a free You

986
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,719
either got to defend Mahomes the lower level, the mid

987
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,440
les level.

988
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 12: Or the upper level, but you can't defend all four

989
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,000
of them right, and they do that better than anybody else.

990
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,639
Speaker 8: And the thing the thing with Brady that I didn't

991
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,880
like today was that I thought his play design.

992
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:17,599
Speaker 12: This year really progressed from last year because he would

993
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,280
set different levels right, He'd have.

994
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,639
Speaker 9: His upper level and he'd have his mid and he'd

995
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:21,920
have his.

996
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,039
Speaker 12: Lower level with his passing. But what I did to

997
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,559
see today was getting Josh the options up running the

998
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,199
ball while having.

999
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 9: Those same levels to hit out a pass right. And

1000
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:34,840
I think.

1001
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 12: If I were Brady and I had an opportunity to

1002
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400
coach him up, I would say, what you want to

1003
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,400
do is you want to watch every play that Andy

1004
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Reeves ran this year, and I want.

1005
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,079
Speaker 9: You to break it down as to how did he provide.

1006
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 12: Options to mahomes And then in those games when you

1007
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,960
need that third or fourth thouts?

1008
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:56,519
Speaker 9: Is that in the damn play still?

1009
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: If Josh can't option, and I know no Bills fan

1010
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,920
wants to hear that, you have to have some patience.

1011
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,360
Andy Reid lost four straight championship games and then got

1012
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,880
and lost.

1013
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: Eventually he learned that's right.

1014
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,079
Speaker 1: He learned it doesn't happen in one or two years.

1015
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:22,159
Speaker 13: So if you got a player from a goddamn Eagle, yeah, yeah,

1016
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:24,000
he got that.

1017
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,559
Speaker 1: Player learn and I can't wait till two weeks and.

1018
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 8: What he learned.

1019
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,639
Speaker 12: What he learned was what he learned was is that

1020
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,559
when you get a talent like Mahomes, you betty to

1021
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,840
learn to optimize that talent.

1022
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 9: You have to coaches to optimize that talent. And that's

1023
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,159
what he's doing. And right now, you know, I don't think.

1024
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 12: They had I think Josh has dictated to them about

1025
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,880
his talent more than Dave optimized his talented Dad and

1026
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,239
and and for them to get to this next level

1027
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,599
is that they have to be the coach and then

1028
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,079
coach Josh to understand his talent and then built this

1029
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,039
team around him so he can do that that he

1030
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,760
can be as opposed to a corresponding to.

1031
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,559
Speaker 1: Him, I actually would agree with that. Like if you

1032
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,840
look at it, Andy Reid when Mahomes, when he drafted Mahomes,

1033
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,119
he went away from his offense and said, Patrick, we're

1034
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,320
going to take your college offense and we're going to

1035
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,119
mix it with mine, and we're going to make a

1036
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:26,199
great offense out of it.

1037
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and something he's coming.

1038
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,079
Speaker 1: That's what they need to do with Josh right now, Josh,

1039
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,639
what do you want to see and where are your

1040
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:36,280
strengths and let's let's build off that and mix it

1041
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,679
with mine.

1042
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,639
Speaker 5: The offensive court, the offensive leader. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Greg.

1043
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 9: I don't know, and I'm sorry, I don't know how

1044
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,760
many times.

1045
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,519
Speaker 12: Josh broke the tackle box for a run today because

1046
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,760
I haven't rewatched the game and I was so freaking

1047
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,119
emotional during the game. But I can tell you just

1048
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:57,840
based on my anecdotal decollection that Mahomes did it probably

1049
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,639
four times more than Josh did.

1050
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he Mahomes not four times to Caton.

1051
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 5: He's not. And he also and he did something that

1052
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
he hasn't done a whole lot. He ran for a touchdown.

1053
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,960
I mean, I mean he he put his body out there.

1054
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:18,199
Speaker 6: If you switch Jacks, if you switch Mahomes, he scored twice. Yeah,

1055
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000
touch if you switch Allan and Mahomes. If you switch

1056
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,920
Alan and Mahomes, Chiefs are still going winning Super Bowls.

1057
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,440
I don't know if the Buffalo Bills are as good

1058
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,599
with Patrick Mahomes quarterback. And I mean that's sincerely because

1059
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:30,000
I don't think. I don't think Patrick Mahomes could do

1060
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:31,400
all the athletic stuff that Josh.

1061
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean still there goes back to what Greg

1062
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:42,679
said where they built it around his strength, Josh.

1063
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 5: And it's a team and we haven't done and that

1064
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:45,800
hasn't really happened both.

1065
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,159
Speaker 6: And I don't want to hear tomorrow morning or this morning,

1066
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,039
Monday morning. I don't want to hear, yeah, you know what,

1067
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,119
we weren't supposed to be No, no, no, we were No.

1068
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that.

1069
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 6: I don't want to hear these guys that w g

1070
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,039
R going well you.

1071
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,119
Speaker 1: Know, no, No, I don't want to hear that.

1072
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,519
Speaker 6: You were there, you had a chance to win it

1073
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:05,280
all in your in your first round. Traff Pick did

1074
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,960
not pull the David Tyree, he pulled the oh Stefan Diggs.

1075
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want to hear out of Buffalo

1076
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,480
or Washington because there's no promise, right, there's no problem.

1077
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: They're just playing with house money. They're happy. There's happy

1078
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,159
Snyder's gone, and they're happy to be there.

1079
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,519
Speaker 1: However, it doesn't mean you're gonna be better next year.

1080
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:25,159
Now they have a million dollars that.

1081
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: You're that you're one hundred percent right, right, that you're

1082
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,039
one hundred.

1083
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,519
Speaker 9: Percent right all the ship that happened for them in

1084
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,679
the Bucks game and the ramp and never happen again,

1085
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,239
you know, you know, even with us, you know, with

1086
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,280
us with the Ravens, right, I mean, and.

1087
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,559
Speaker 12: I'll say this, you gotta take advantage to capitalized, be

1088
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,800
in the moment and move forward in that.

1089
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,119
Speaker 9: And who knows if we'll be back to your next year.

1090
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,039
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1091
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 9: Are you kidding me?

1092
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 12: Who's gonna happen? But Jery Bedford's out the flamo?

1093
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 9: You know who the hell?

1094
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 6: Right, I'll say this, I mean, the good news is

1095
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,519
Peyton Manning didn't play his first Super Bowl until he

1096
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,920
was thirty. Jim Kelly didn't play in his first Super

1097
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,320
bo until he was thirty. Josh is twenty eight. And

1098
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440
look how far away've come so far. I mean, he's

1099
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,159
got a long career ahead of him. But they got

1100
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:17,760
to get it together.

1101
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 5: They got to get together. I know, I know, all right,

1102
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,119
I know with you.

1103
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,599
Speaker 4: I know, I'm with you, Greg, I know, Greg, we're

1104
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,880
at the we're at BTV and they're cleaning up, and

1105
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,320
I think we got to get out of their way.

1106
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,599
Speaker 5: But I appreciate you answering. I know, yeah, thank you Greg.

1107
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,320
Not the happiest moment, but great an Alyx. We were

1108
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,079
pulling for you, Greg.

1109
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,519
Speaker 1: Sorry man, Yeah, Erica was with us today.

1110
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 13: All right, thank Greghill go Bill's brother.

1111
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,559
Speaker 5: There you go, there is Greg Connors. Well we'll close

1112
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:51,960
it out, Matt, Thank you, thank you.

1113
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

1114
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of work for you guys

1115
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:56,119
to come out here and do this. I'm and I

1116
00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:58,400
threw it out there as a too fucking Bill. I

1117
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,480
was like, hey, just come out and do it. And

1118
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:02,480
afterwards I was like I thought about it. I was like, no,

1119
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,519
enjoy the game, and it's like, yeah, because we can't

1120
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:07,880
enjoy the game. We did enjoy the game.

1121
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 5: We can well. We talked about doing a halftime. Glad

1122
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,519
we didn't. We didn't do the result. We didn't enjoy

1123
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:12,920
the result. We enjoyed the game.

1124
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: We enjoyed the joy.

1125
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:17,519
Speaker 5: I had been here right BTV would far girl?

1126
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: All right, I'm Bill Moran for a man, for Dan,

1127
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,920
for Kevin who was here but left before we recorded.

1128
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,719
It's his birthday today. Yes, today, we'll do something.

1129
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: Tomorrow, we'll do something tomorrow.

1130
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,679
Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow. It's California, baby, Things of God.

1131
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: Worth sees a landa opportunity when he used to die

1132
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,199
or whatever.

1133
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:42,039
Speaker 2: Judge year.

1134
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: I thought we'd walk out of here and time with

1135
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,039
the bills not going to server. I'll be honest with you,

1136
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:49,039
like as somebody who's doubted the bills for years, I

1137
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:51,079
was like, there's no I thought they were in by tent,

1138
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:52,800
and I thought, actually I was be