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Speaker 1: your calls. You get to set the agenda as to
Speaker 1: what the show is about today. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: give the number out one more time eight three three
Speaker 1: two ask Dean A three three the numeral two ask
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Speaker 1: do that because it makes Tina laugh. I have no
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Speaker 1: the show while you wait. And you know, I pick
Speaker 1: calls pretty randomly here, so even if you call right now,
Speaker 1: you know you might be the next call.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: So here's a random selection. Let's talk to Mark A
Speaker 1: Mark welcome home. Hi, Hey there you are.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I thought I almost I thought I hung up
Speaker 2: on you when I selected the number.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, after all of that, all right,
Speaker 1: my friend, how you doing?
Speaker 2: How can I help you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I had a question. You recommend in
Speaker 3: the past rock wool and insulation for interior soundproofing purposes,
Speaker 3: and I like the idea. I was just wondering about
Speaker 3: how that might affect Wi Fi signals within the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. Yes, I do recommend rock
Speaker 1: wool insulation on interior walls, and which is not a
Speaker 1: code requirement. It's just a recommendation. For me because it
Speaker 1: just helps control sound. It's not for heating and insulating purposes.
Speaker 1: It's just makes a home so much more sound attenable
Speaker 1: and quiet. But yeah, it's a really good question. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does have a dampening effect on Wi Fi because
Speaker 1: rock wool insulation is pretty significant little barrier. It doesn't
Speaker 1: shut it down by any means. It will though on
Speaker 1: a larger home it's going to dampen the signs. And
Speaker 1: so if you're going to pony up for like during
Speaker 1: a remodel, for interior wall insulation, then you know, spend
Speaker 1: a couple one hundred dollars more and also pony up
Speaker 1: for a Wi Fi mesh net system for your home,
Speaker 1: and that just solves that problem. In other words, instead
Speaker 1: of having one centrally located Wi Fi router sending out
Speaker 1: a Wi Fi signal through your home that may or
Speaker 1: may not make it to every corner of your home,
Speaker 1: or instead of doing it old school with a repeater, okay,
Speaker 1: having another Wi Fi repeater at some point, the new
Speaker 1: and I shouldn't say new, I mean they've been around
Speaker 1: for quite a while now. But the best way to
Speaker 1: do Wi Fi coverage for a home is to use
Speaker 1: a mesh net system, and I would say for the
Speaker 1: whole property. I mean I have a small home. I
Speaker 1: only need one router in my home to cover, you know,
Speaker 1: all the rooms in my home, even with rockwool insulation
Speaker 1: in the walls, which we have in all of our
Speaker 1: interior walls. However, I'm sitting on a third of an
Speaker 1: acre of property here and we've got out buildings. I
Speaker 1: have the studio, I've got the garden room, We've got
Speaker 1: a guesthouse in the back, and that's way too far
Speaker 1: for that one router to go. Instead of using repeaters
Speaker 1: to push out, we have a I think a four
Speaker 1: a four node Wi Fi mesh system and basically what
Speaker 1: it means is anywhere on the property you get a
Speaker 1: strong signal, no matter where you're at, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: it's not a slowed down signal. That's why the old repeaters.
Speaker 1: Every time you send us a Wi Fi signal through
Speaker 1: a repeater, you know, it slows down a little bit
Speaker 1: along the way. But with a mesh node set that
Speaker 1: puts like basically a Wi Fi net over the entire area.
Speaker 1: There are actually nodes and I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into all the technical stuff, but there nodes of the
Speaker 1: Wi Fi system. They're not repeaters, they're simply all sharing
Speaker 1: that signal with each other. And no matter where you
Speaker 1: move on the property, one of the nodes is close
Speaker 1: enough to pick the signal and it doesn't slow down
Speaker 1: service at all. So you're absolutely right. Enough rock well
Speaker 1: in a big enough house will damper a Wi Fi
Speaker 1: signal internally. But if you're going to go to that
Speaker 1: expense to do that for your home, which I think
Speaker 1: is fantastic, then go ahead and add a mesh system
Speaker 1: and you won't have to worry about the Wi.
Speaker 3: Fi sounds great. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You are so welcome, my friend.
Speaker 1: I love calls. I just love calls. You know why
Speaker 1: we take calls. We take calls because subjects get raised
Speaker 1: that are universal to so many people. Right, So Mark
Speaker 1: calls and he's got this really intelligent question about something
Speaker 1: he's heard me say, interior wall insulation for sound purposes.
Speaker 1: He's got a really intelligent how's that going to affect
Speaker 1: Wi Fi? There's thousands of people who are listening who
Speaker 1: didn't realize that they have that same question rolling around
Speaker 1: the back of their head. And now boom, there it is, right,
Speaker 1: And I could have done. I could have done two
Speaker 1: insulation shows and failed to mention that little aspect. So
Speaker 1: that's why we love doing it this way. And we're
Speaker 1: going to take more of your calls. Right after.
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Speaker 1: It is and all calls Sunday morning. That means we
Speaker 1: are doing nothing but taking your calls. You set the
Speaker 1: agenda for the show. Construction design, DIY lofty, architectural artistic
Speaker 1: questions or how do we fix the leaky toilet and
Speaker 1: everything in between, anything you want to talk about regarding
Speaker 1: your home. Does that guy really have that kind of
Speaker 1: breadth of answers?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's find out. We just give it a try. The
Speaker 1: number to reach me eight three to three two. Ask
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Speaker 1: All right, I am excited. Let's go back to the phones,
Speaker 1: shall we. Let's talk to Susan. Hey, Susan, welcome home.
Speaker 5: I Dean, I'm so excited to talk to you. So
Speaker 5: first of all, thank you to Richie, thank you to
Speaker 5: t and Dean. I've been with you since your very
Speaker 5: first show. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I apologize for that.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry anyway, love hearing you. So I want to know.
Speaker 5: My question is it's two parts your favorite if you
Speaker 5: had to choose, like your favorite bright, I want to
Speaker 5: paint my whole home just bright white. It's just simple
Speaker 5: and easy. I don't want to have to choose colors
Speaker 5: the brightest, a real bright white. I have almost no
Speaker 5: direct sunlight in my entire home. I looked at Chantilly lace.
Speaker 5: It's beautiful color. I don't know if that's really bright
Speaker 5: bright white though. And then of course Benjamin Moore, of course,
Speaker 5: and then what types I think you said aura for bathrooms,
Speaker 5: but I'd like to know kitchens, cabinets, doors, bathroom like,
Speaker 5: what are the different types of chines that would be
Speaker 5: your favorite. I'm not married to anything flat. I just
Speaker 5: would like to know what you would do. And of
Speaker 5: course new flooring will come later, so I'm not really
Speaker 5: concerned with flooring.
Speaker 1: I got you the okay, Well, okay, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to disappoint you on one side, which is that I
Speaker 1: am terrible at remembering the names of paint colors, really,
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons is they change them all
Speaker 1: the time. But there's a couple. There's a couple that
Speaker 1: I that we always default to, and then Tina always
Speaker 1: nods at me that, yes, you got that one right.
Speaker 2: Hunt.
Speaker 1: So bright white. Yeah, I'm going to give you the
Speaker 1: principle though, behind it, so that you can choose for yourself. Okay,
Speaker 1: The principle behind it is this absolute pure white. Okay,
Speaker 1: pure white, absolute pure white. We don't want to do
Speaker 1: in the house. That's the brightest of all the whites,
Speaker 1: pure absolute bright white. And the reason is because in
Speaker 1: an interior, pure white can start going cold. In other words,
Speaker 1: it can have a blue tint to it. It's like
Speaker 1: pure light coming out of a light bulb. We don't
Speaker 1: want anything above like three thousand kelvin as far as
Speaker 1: color temperature is concerned, which, by the way, five thousand
Speaker 1: kelvin is sunlight. And you would think, oh, sunlight's beautiful
Speaker 1: and warm, and to say no, inside a house, a
Speaker 1: five thousand degree kelvin color temperature light bulb is blue,
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, it's cold, it's icy blue blue.
Speaker 1: So what we want is a nice bright light, a
Speaker 1: lot of lumins and brightness coming off the light. I
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about light bulb, but I think you
Speaker 1: see the analogy here, and we want it below three thousand.
Speaker 1: In other words, we threw some amber in there, just
Speaker 1: a little warmth, a little warm tone into the light.
Speaker 1: That's the light that everybody loves inside their house. The
Speaker 1: same is true. Now, paint doesn't emit color, but it
Speaker 1: reflects color, okay, and so the same is true of paint.
Speaker 1: We don't want bright, bright, pure white. That's easy to
Speaker 1: come by. You just go to the paint store and
Speaker 1: you just buy the base color without any tinting in
Speaker 1: it whatsoever, and you get pure white, too blue, too blue,
Speaker 1: too cold. What we want is something that has just
Speaker 1: a hint a hint of warmth in it, meaning something
Speaker 1: in the brown, tan and red additive being added to it,
Speaker 1: not blues and greens, but on the warm side of
Speaker 1: the scale. And that would, in Benjamin More terms, that
Speaker 1: would be decorators white Tina's telling me it, I got
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 2: And or Swiss.
Speaker 1: Little variation between the two, but those would be the two.
Speaker 1: But in principle, now that's Benjamin Moore. Anybody using whatever paint,
Speaker 1: just know that you just want to go slightly off
Speaker 1: and in no way, shape or form is tan it's
Speaker 1: not tan. It doesn't cream up the wall or anything.
Speaker 1: When you walk into a room, you're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful bright white. But what you don't realize
Speaker 1: it has a little bit of warmth reflected in it.
Speaker 1: So that's the color. As far as the Thechines go
Speaker 1: flat on the ceiling, pure flat, just straight out flat
Speaker 1: on a ceiling. Why because we never have to, you know,
Speaker 1: get a ceiling dirty. The ceilings don't have to put
Speaker 1: up with abuse, so we don't have to wash it.
Speaker 1: The problem with flat is that it is hard to wash.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a paint in the butt to wash
Speaker 1: flat paint, watch dirt off flat paint. So safe on
Speaker 1: the ceiling, perfectly flat. Plus I want a man I
Speaker 1: don't want sheen in the house. In general, I want
Speaker 1: things not reflective because the more reflective a surface is,
Speaker 1: the shinier surface is, the more it shows every possible
Speaker 1: imperfection in the surface. So flat is just pure color,
Speaker 1: no shine on the walls. I want them as flat
Speaker 1: as possible. We'll usually go mate on the walls. Matt
Speaker 1: is flat, but it's not all the way flat. And
Speaker 1: and Benjamin Moore is one of the reasons we love
Speaker 1: them Aura, Aura throughout the house. If you just want
Speaker 1: the best period Aura everywhere, matte finish on the walls,
Speaker 1: flat on the ceiling, or a bath and spa in
Speaker 1: the bathrooms because of its amazing matte finish and moisture
Speaker 1: protection at the same time. And then when it comes
Speaker 1: to trims, casings and bass boards, then I just take
Speaker 1: one tiny step up and go like eggs shell or satin,
Speaker 1: depending on the brand of paint, eggshell or satin comes
Speaker 1: first or after. You know, some manufacturers reverse the two
Speaker 1: in order. It's just basically the next sheene step up,
Speaker 1: depending on what manufacturer you're using, And that is my
Speaker 1: preferential formula for doing a house. Now, of course there's
Speaker 1: always exceptions, but for what you're talking about, I think
Speaker 1: that's what's going to make you happy. That little bit
Speaker 1: of sheene on the baseboards and the casings, doorcasings, those
Speaker 1: are the areas that take the most abuse, and therefore
Speaker 1: it just allows you to keep them that much cleaner.
Speaker 5: Well, one least clarification Aura definitely bathroom and spa. But
Speaker 5: did you didn't you also say aura throughout the house?
Speaker 5: If I could do that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Aura is Benjamin Moore's top of the line
Speaker 1: premiere paint, and so Aura is a paint that can
Speaker 1: be used throughout the house. And then Aura bath Ins
Speaker 1: SPA is a specific application of Aura four bathrooms. So
Speaker 1: there you go, Susan, thank you for the question. I'm right,
Speaker 1: I'm late for a break, so I've got to go
Speaker 1: otherwise they're going to penalize me and that's not good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and thank you for
Speaker 1: your question, and good luck. And I think you're taking
Speaker 1: the right approach for a dark house because white recycles
Speaker 1: light inside a room. It's not just the color, it's
Speaker 1: the fact that it reflects it all around.
Speaker 2: And it's a good thing. All right, y'all.
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Speaker 1: You are Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the program. We are doing an all calls Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: Every few weeks, we just clear the decks, you know,
Speaker 1: I take calls every show, virtually every show, almost without exception,
Speaker 1: every show, but every few weeks we just clear the decks.
Speaker 1: So we just do nothing but calls. And to day,
Speaker 1: it's one of those days. So I want to get
Speaker 1: back to the phones. I want to talk to Let's see,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome home.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan a hey, I live in a house it's
Speaker 6: not insulated on the inside walls. Is there any insulation
Speaker 6: in paneling that you can put up over stucco on
Speaker 6: the outside to insulate?
Speaker 2: Okay? So all right, let me.
Speaker 1: So you live in an older home that doesn't have
Speaker 1: exterior wall insulation.
Speaker 6: That what you're saying, Yeah, right, it's placid walls inside.
Speaker 6: You know it's bought I bought it well, I was
Speaker 6: built back in the sixties, in the early sixties, And
Speaker 6: just curious if there's insulation and paneling that you can
Speaker 6: put up on the outside exterior walls that you know there.
Speaker 1: Is there is. That's one way of doing it. You
Speaker 1: could You could add furring strips essentially to the stucco
Speaker 1: and then put to rigid paneling. But then you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to recoat the entire house. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: either restucco or reside the outside of the house, uh completely,
Speaker 1: And that can that can be a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: expense in and of itself. Instead of that, I would
Speaker 1: in order to and we do this a lot in
Speaker 1: order to preserve older homes and preserve the integrity of
Speaker 1: older homes. Now, what I'm about to suggest seems like
Speaker 1: a lot, and it kind of is, but it's actually,
Speaker 1: in the end the least amount of work. You can
Speaker 1: call a foam insulation company and but believe me, spray
Speaker 1: foam or pump foam insulation the best insulation that you
Speaker 1: can get, bar none. You can call a foam insulation
Speaker 1: company and what they will do is they will go
Speaker 1: around the outside of the house and they are going
Speaker 1: to drill a whole one hole kind of mid wall
Speaker 1: in every stud bay through the stucco and every stud
Speaker 1: bay around the outside of your house. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of holes. I know it's a lot of holes, but
Speaker 1: they're relatively small holes and they're drilled through the stucco
Speaker 1: until they get access into that interior stud bay and
Speaker 1: then with a with a foam pump, they can insert
Speaker 1: a hose up and then down and fill that cavity
Speaker 1: with foam insulation until it's you know, squeezing out the
Speaker 1: hole and they know it's full. It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we can do it when there's existing insulation in
Speaker 1: the hole. It will mix and pressurize in there just fine,
Speaker 1: and then they move on. They can literally insulate all
Speaker 1: of those stud bays through those holes all the way
Speaker 1: around the outside of the house. Then what you're left
Speaker 1: with is a stucco house that has, you know, a
Speaker 1: bunch of holes in it, you know, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about like an inch and a half diameter or two
Speaker 1: inch inch hole every sixteen inches or so all the
Speaker 1: way around the house. That is something that then a
Speaker 1: stucco company can simply patch the hole and then all
Speaker 1: you need is a new finish coat, which is just
Speaker 1: an eighth of an inch of stucco across those exterior walls.
Speaker 1: Don't have to tear the old stucco out, don't have
Speaker 1: to add all new sighting to the outside of the house.
Speaker 1: It's not a inexpensive procedure, but it's a lot less
Speaker 1: expensive and super efficient than tearing all the stucco off
Speaker 1: the house, or tearing all the dry wall off the
Speaker 1: inside walls, or anything like that. And these days, with
Speaker 1: our hose applied foam insulation, it works brilliantly well. In fact,
Speaker 1: you'll end up with a house that's better air sealed
Speaker 1: than the brand new house that just got built next
Speaker 1: to you with standard bat insulation in it. And so
Speaker 1: that's how we would reckon men doing it.
Speaker 6: Can they even go bug and below the fireblock?
Speaker 1: Exactly? They get above and below the fire block. So
Speaker 1: so that way you know the whole wall. It's guaranteed,
Speaker 1: the whole wall is going to get filled up.
Speaker 7: Uh, and then all the way.
Speaker 1: In the board exactly, all the way down to the
Speaker 1: bottom plate, in the top plate, the entire wall is it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll work. Believe me, it works. We've seen it. Just
Speaker 1: dramatically change the way an old house. And that way
Speaker 1: you're not screwing up the inside of the house, and
Speaker 1: you're not paying for brand new stucco everywhere, because stucco
Speaker 1: is three different layers scratch coat, brown coat, and then
Speaker 1: that thin little finish coat. All you're essentially doing is
Speaker 1: a little bit of patchwork and a new finish coat. No,
Speaker 1: with a new finished coat on the outside of the house,
Speaker 1: no one will ever know the holes had even been made.
Speaker 1: And you're paying for the least expensive part of a
Speaker 1: new stucco job.
Speaker 2: Okay, you are very welcome, my friend.
Speaker 1: Good luck on that and Uh yeah, I would recommend
Speaker 1: doing it absolutely, and please don't forget Jim the attic
Speaker 1: of all things. I mean, if you only had so
Speaker 1: much money to spend on insulation, the best place to
Speaker 1: insulate and the cheapest place to insulate is to pump
Speaker 1: the attic full of like a like a mineral wool
Speaker 1: insulation loose fill insulation in the attic, to just seal
Speaker 1: it all up. Because you know, heat rises, and so
Speaker 1: even if you don't have a jacket when you go outside,
Speaker 1: put a hat on and you will stay warmer. It's
Speaker 1: not being to be perfect, but it's absolutely your best
Speaker 1: insulation dollar is to add insulation to your already existing
Speaker 1: attic situation. All right, excellent question, and more on the way.
Speaker 1: We will go back to the phones right after.
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Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, The House Whisper, Welcome Home. There's just something
Speaker 1: about that intro music there the Elmer that made me laugh.
Speaker 1: Just felt like we were doing folks singing in the sixties.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. Good call, good call.
Speaker 1: I love your music man, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk to Don. Hey Don, welcome home.
Speaker 7: Hi Don, this is uh.
Speaker 2: Uh you're Don.
Speaker 7: That's right. Well, I got I got to listen to
Speaker 7: the folk songs and I just love that. You know, Hey,
Speaker 7: I've got a question for you here. I've got a
Speaker 7: family member here who has a beautiful house. It's a
Speaker 7: single family house. And what they've done over the years
Speaker 7: is they had added on a family room in the
Speaker 7: back and then where the it's a the house is
Speaker 7: a race, the race race foundation and where they added
Speaker 7: the family room. It's about eight or nine inches down
Speaker 7: below the main floor. And uh, and the reason I
Speaker 7: calling about this is that they actually had two of
Speaker 7: their family members fall over that step because there was
Speaker 7: nothing there and they didn't see it. And then last
Speaker 7: last night I went over to their house. It's it's
Speaker 7: up for sale now and I went over to check
Speaker 7: it out, and uh, they had they had remodeled everything
Speaker 7: that The floors were beautiful, They're they're really light wood,
Speaker 7: some kind of wood surface floor. They're really beautiful. And
Speaker 7: when I walked out of the main floor, they have
Speaker 7: a pool in the back and I looked at I
Speaker 7: was looking at the pool and I stepped over it
Speaker 7: and I just landed right on my butt all the
Speaker 7: way and I just kind of it kind of stoned
Speaker 7: me there for a minute and then I fortunately I
Speaker 7: have a big butt, so it was okay. But what,
Speaker 7: and I asked, I asked the agent there, I said, what,
Speaker 7: why don't you put something there? Put put some of
Speaker 7: the painter's tape, or maybe put put some chairs or
Speaker 7: something along there, because yeah, I've been in that house
Speaker 7: many many times and I still fell. I didn't see
Speaker 7: it's when you look at it. It blends in so
Speaker 7: you don't really see the level. There is there any
Speaker 7: suggesting what what the I don't know what he's gonna do,
Speaker 7: but the new owner of what they can do because
Speaker 7: they had it has been a real you know, one
Speaker 7: of them broke a leg and one of them sprained
Speaker 7: at ankle before.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's the step of death. It is.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it actually is not an at all an
Speaker 1: uncommon thing. Don we We hear about that stuff sometimes
Speaker 1: see it all the time. So I just want to clarify. Uh,
Speaker 1: the so it's a it's an eight or a nine
Speaker 1: inch step down? Is there no intermediate step there at all?
Speaker 1: Or is it just like boom one cliff and you
Speaker 1: got you go from the old house down to the
Speaker 1: new level.
Speaker 7: That's it. And it's from wall to wall. It's just
Speaker 7: all the way across straight one one.
Speaker 1: Stay yeah YOI And uh and that floor down there,
Speaker 1: what kind of flooring is on the main house level
Speaker 1: and what kind of flooring is down on the on
Speaker 1: the recessed area.
Speaker 7: They're they're both I don't know if there would there
Speaker 7: they're they're they're brand news, so I don't I'm not
Speaker 7: familiar with the wood. But it's it's very like, you know,
Speaker 7: kind of whitewashed colored wood. It's it's when you see
Speaker 7: in the houses these days.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's all the states, that's the Yeah, no
Speaker 1: intermediate step all right, Well, you know, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't have a a I don't have a one universal
Speaker 1: solution there when when there's a step involved, in other words,
Speaker 1: there's actually literally a step, an intermediate step. I always
Speaker 1: tell people, hey, I don't care what you did that
Speaker 1: step in how much it matches the other floor, change it.
Speaker 1: Change that step color to something else, right, in other words,
Speaker 1: paint it, or take that wood, refinish it, stain it
Speaker 1: darker in a complementary color, so that everybody notices that
Speaker 1: line there. The problem is nobody sees the line, and
Speaker 1: if you're not paying attention, that's why everybody's killing themselves
Speaker 1: on this step down here. Plus the fact I should say,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's more than eight inches, that's not
Speaker 1: even code.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I could consider. Okay, one
Speaker 1: thing you could consider that if you got an eight
Speaker 1: inch you've got an eight or a nine inch step down.
Speaker 1: That's a taller riser than is allowed in a one
Speaker 1: single step down, okay, And if there's room on the
Speaker 1: lower part, in other words, if there if there isn't
Speaker 1: furniture just backed all the way up right to you know,
Speaker 1: slammed onto that step transition, if there's room immediate step
Speaker 1: so that we can break that nine inches into you know,
Speaker 1: four and a half and four and a half, and
Speaker 1: let's add an intermediate step. And let's make sure that
Speaker 1: intermediate step is a different contrasting wood. It could still
Speaker 1: be the hard wood, could still be the same species
Speaker 1: of wood. But if we stain it darker than the
Speaker 1: light floor, everybody will see it.
Speaker 2: Everybody will see it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now, barring barring that, think about the flow from the
Speaker 1: existing room out to the other space. And if there's
Speaker 1: only one area really where people can or need to transition,
Speaker 1: then you could build a little pony wall across there.
Speaker 1: Or if a pony wall is going to block the
Speaker 1: view and people feel like, uh like, uh, well, the
Speaker 1: whole idea of the pony wall is the is the
Speaker 1: idea that that that if we channel somebody to walk
Speaker 1: through one particular area, then we're alerting.
Speaker 2: Hey, there's a difference here. Okay. Uh more, where if.
Speaker 1: The pony wall it blocks the view and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a pony wall, by the way, everybody,
Speaker 1: Just for those of you don't know, I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about like a half heighth wall, like a thirty six
Speaker 1: or a inch tall wall that used, you know, but
Speaker 1: if that darkens the other room, then you know, you
Speaker 1: could use in these in houses these days, sometimes we
Speaker 1: use cable railing. The kind of stuff we would put
Speaker 1: on an exterior deck. We would use cable railing right
Speaker 1: there and still create a wall and channel somebody through. Uh,
Speaker 1: so that they literally have they're aware that, hey there's
Speaker 1: a divider here and a step down.
Speaker 2: Be aware.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that way you wouldn't block the view or
Speaker 1: the light. But those are just a couple of ideas
Speaker 1: for that. But honestly, if it's more than eight inches
Speaker 1: of step down, I would put an intermediate step along
Speaker 1: that thing. I would make sure it's a contrasting color.
Speaker 7: Well, that's good advice, that sounds good. I think they
Speaker 7: had they had put a couch or something on it,
Speaker 7: you know, before they moved so. But but this just
Speaker 7: took me. I mean I've been in there many many times,
Speaker 7: and I just won two three, and I stick a
Speaker 7: step and I almost tip my head on the upper level.
Speaker 7: Uh and but fortunately everything worked out for me. And
Speaker 7: I just that's good advice. That was that would that
Speaker 7: would that's just not to kind of damage. I need
Speaker 7: to get somebody that has problem walking, you know, maybe
Speaker 7: that's another thing too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you, John, you know, hand them that advice, uh,
Speaker 1: if if they're open to it, because and I don't
Speaker 1: want to get all litigious or anything, because that's the
Speaker 1: last thing in the world that I like talking about.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that the the
Speaker 1: International Building Code you know, allows it here in the
Speaker 1: States for a you know, for for new construction stuff,
Speaker 1: and that you know, they did that at some point
Speaker 1: not too long ago, right, so that an eight inch
Speaker 1: tall riser is the maxim them allowed by code. So
Speaker 1: if there's a code violation there of too tall of
Speaker 1: a step and a blind step, somebody could sue. I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody could get hurt and actually sue because it is
Speaker 1: technically an unsafe code violation condition and that nobody wants that.
Speaker 1: So I would if it's you know, regardless of all
Speaker 1: the other advice I gave, if it is beyond eight
Speaker 1: inches in height, I would not hesitate to just build in.
Speaker 1: It's not going to cost him that much. Build in
Speaker 1: a secondary step break that you know, nine inches into
Speaker 1: four and a half and four and a half, and
Speaker 1: give people plenty of you know of tread to step
Speaker 1: down onto so that they see the transition and nobody
Speaker 1: has to get injured in a good home. Don thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your call, and I hope that
Speaker 1: helps all right, y'all more when we return. You are
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