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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the

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<v Speaker 1>House Whisperer on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Hey follow

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<v Speaker 1>should mention if your home is in need of some

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<v Speaker 1>personal house Whisperer attention, personal meaning like me and the

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<v Speaker 1>tea here showing up on your doorstep ready to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out your specific design problems, you can book an in

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<v Speaker 1>Whisperer dot Design, house Whisperer dot Design. All right, it

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<v Speaker 1>is the second hour of our fine Sunday morning program

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<v Speaker 1>here and it is an all calls Sunday, nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>your calls. You get to set the agenda as to

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<v Speaker 1>what the show is about today. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give the number out one more time eight three three

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<v Speaker 1>two ask Dean A three three the numeral two ask

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<v Speaker 1>Dean eight three three two pep ask Dean. I only

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<v Speaker 1>do that because it makes Tina laugh. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea why it makes her laugh. Give us a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Richie is on the other end of the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll pick up. He'll tell you everything you need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll pop you into the queue. You can listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show while you wait. And you know, I pick

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<v Speaker 1>calls pretty randomly here, so even if you call right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you might be the next call.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a random selection. Let's talk to Mark A

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<v Speaker 1>Mark welcome home. Hi, Hey there you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry. I thought I almost I thought I hung up

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<v Speaker 2>on you when I selected the number.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, after all of that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well. I had a question. You recommend in

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<v Speaker 3>the past rock wool and insulation for interior soundproofing purposes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I like the idea. I was just wondering about

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<v Speaker 3>how that might affect Wi Fi signals within the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good question. Yes, I do recommend rock

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<v Speaker 1>wool insulation on interior walls, and which is not a

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<v Speaker 1>code requirement. It's just a recommendation. For me because it

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<v Speaker 1>just helps control sound. It's not for heating and insulating purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just makes a home so much more sound attenable

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<v Speaker 1>and quiet. But yeah, it's a really good question. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it does have a dampening effect on Wi Fi because

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<v Speaker 1>rock wool insulation is pretty significant little barrier. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down by any means. It will though on

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<v Speaker 1>a larger home it's going to dampen the signs. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you're going to pony up for like during

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<v Speaker 1>a remodel, for interior wall insulation, then you know, spend

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<v Speaker 1>a couple one hundred dollars more and also pony up

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<v Speaker 1>for a Wi Fi mesh net system for your home,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just solves that problem. In other words, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having one centrally located Wi Fi router sending out

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<v Speaker 1>a Wi Fi signal through your home that may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not make it to every corner of your home,

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<v Speaker 1>or instead of doing it old school with a repeater, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>having another Wi Fi repeater at some point, the new

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<v Speaker 1>and I shouldn't say new, I mean they've been around

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a while now. But the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>do Wi Fi coverage for a home is to use

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<v Speaker 1>a mesh net system, and I would say for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole property. I mean I have a small home. I

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<v Speaker 1>only need one router in my home to cover, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the rooms in my home, even with rockwool insulation

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<v Speaker 1>in the walls, which we have in all of our

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<v Speaker 1>interior walls. However, I'm sitting on a third of an

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<v Speaker 1>acre of property here and we've got out buildings. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the studio, I've got the garden room, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a guesthouse in the back, and that's way too far

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<v Speaker 1>for that one router to go. Instead of using repeaters

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<v Speaker 1>to push out, we have a I think a four

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<v Speaker 1>a four node Wi Fi mesh system and basically what

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<v Speaker 1>it means is anywhere on the property you get a

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<v Speaker 1>strong signal, no matter where you're at, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a slowed down signal. That's why the old repeaters.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you send us a Wi Fi signal through

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<v Speaker 1>a repeater, you know, it slows down a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. But with a mesh node set that

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<v Speaker 1>puts like basically a Wi Fi net over the entire area.

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<v Speaker 1>There are actually nodes and I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into all the technical stuff, but there nodes of the

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi system. They're not repeaters, they're simply all sharing

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<v Speaker 1>that signal with each other. And no matter where you

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<v Speaker 1>move on the property, one of the nodes is close

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<v Speaker 1>enough to pick the signal and it doesn't slow down

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<v Speaker 1>service at all. So you're absolutely right. Enough rock well

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<v Speaker 1>in a big enough house will damper a Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>signal internally. But if you're going to go to that

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<v Speaker 1>expense to do that for your home, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic, then go ahead and add a mesh system

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<v Speaker 1>and you won't have to worry about the Wi.

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<v Speaker 3>Fi sounds great. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>You are so welcome, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I love calls. I just love calls. You know why

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<v Speaker 1>we take calls. We take calls because subjects get raised

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<v Speaker 1>that are universal to so many people. Right, So Mark

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<v Speaker 1>calls and he's got this really intelligent question about something

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<v Speaker 1>he's heard me say, interior wall insulation for sound purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a really intelligent how's that going to affect

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi? There's thousands of people who are listening who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they have that same question rolling around

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<v Speaker 1>the back of their head. And now boom, there it is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I could have done. I could have done two

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<v Speaker 1>insulation shows and failed to mention that little aspect. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we love doing it this way. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take more of your calls. Right after.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It is and all calls Sunday morning. That means we

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<v Speaker 1>are doing nothing but taking your calls. You set the

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<v Speaker 1>agenda for the show. Construction design, DIY lofty, architectural artistic

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<v Speaker 1>questions or how do we fix the leaky toilet and

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<v Speaker 1>everything in between, anything you want to talk about regarding

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<v Speaker 1>your home. Does that guy really have that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>breadth of answers?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's find out. We just give it a try. The

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<v Speaker 1>number to reach me eight three to three two. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>Dean eight three to three the numeral two. Ask Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I am excited. Let's go back to the phones,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Let's talk to Susan. Hey, Susan, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>I Dean, I'm so excited to talk to you. So

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, thank you to Richie, thank you to

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<v Speaker 5>t and Dean. I've been with you since your very

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<v Speaker 5>first show. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry anyway, love hearing you. So I want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>My question is it's two parts your favorite if you

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<v Speaker 5>had to choose, like your favorite bright, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>paint my whole home just bright white. It's just simple

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<v Speaker 5>and easy. I don't want to have to choose colors

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<v Speaker 5>the brightest, a real bright white. I have almost no

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<v Speaker 5>direct sunlight in my entire home. I looked at Chantilly lace.

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<v Speaker 5>It's beautiful color. I don't know if that's really bright

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<v Speaker 5>bright white though. And then of course Benjamin Moore, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>and then what types I think you said aura for bathrooms,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'd like to know kitchens, cabinets, doors, bathroom like,

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<v Speaker 5>what are the different types of chines that would be

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<v Speaker 5>your favorite. I'm not married to anything flat. I just

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<v Speaker 5>would like to know what you would do. And of

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<v Speaker 5>course new flooring will come later, so I'm not really

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<v Speaker 5>concerned with flooring.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you the okay, Well, okay, so I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to disappoint you on one side, which is that I

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<v Speaker 1>am terrible at remembering the names of paint colors, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the reasons is they change them all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But there's a couple. There's a couple that

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<v Speaker 1>I that we always default to, and then Tina always

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<v Speaker 1>nods at me that, yes, you got that one right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>So bright white. Yeah, I'm going to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>principle though, behind it, so that you can choose for yourself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>The principle behind it is this absolute pure white. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>pure white, absolute pure white. We don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. That's the brightest of all the whites,

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<v Speaker 1>pure absolute bright white. And the reason is because in

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<v Speaker 1>an interior, pure white can start going cold. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it can have a blue tint to it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>pure light coming out of a light bulb. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want anything above like three thousand kelvin as far as

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<v Speaker 1>color temperature is concerned, which, by the way, five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>kelvin is sunlight. And you would think, oh, sunlight's beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and warm, and to say no, inside a house, a

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand degree kelvin color temperature light bulb is blue,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are like, oh, it's cold, it's icy blue blue.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we want is a nice bright light, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of lumins and brightness coming off the light. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm talking about light bulb, but I think you

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<v Speaker 1>see the analogy here, and we want it below three thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, we threw some amber in there, just

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<v Speaker 1>a little warmth, a little warm tone into the light.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the light that everybody loves inside their house. The

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<v Speaker 1>same is true. Now, paint doesn't emit color, but it

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<v Speaker 1>reflects color, okay, and so the same is true of paint.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want bright, bright, pure white. That's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>come by. You just go to the paint store and

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<v Speaker 1>you just buy the base color without any tinting in

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<v Speaker 1>it whatsoever, and you get pure white, too blue, too blue,

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<v Speaker 1>too cold. What we want is something that has just

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<v Speaker 1>a hint a hint of warmth in it, meaning something

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<v Speaker 1>in the brown, tan and red additive being added to it,

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<v Speaker 1>not blues and greens, but on the warm side of

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<v Speaker 1>the scale. And that would, in Benjamin More terms, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be decorators white Tina's telling me it, I got

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<v Speaker 1>it right.

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<v Speaker 2>And or Swiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Little variation between the two, but those would be the two.

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<v Speaker 1>But in principle, now that's Benjamin Moore. Anybody using whatever paint,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that you just want to go slightly off

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<v Speaker 1>and in no way, shape or form is tan it's

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<v Speaker 1>not tan. It doesn't cream up the wall or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>When you walk into a room, you're like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a beautiful bright white. But what you don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it has a little bit of warmth reflected in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the color. As far as the Thechines go

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<v Speaker 1>flat on the ceiling, pure flat, just straight out flat

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<v Speaker 1>on a ceiling. Why because we never have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get a ceiling dirty. The ceilings don't have to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with abuse, so we don't have to wash it.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with flat is that it is hard to wash.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a paint in the butt to wash

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<v Speaker 1>flat paint, watch dirt off flat paint. So safe on

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling, perfectly flat. Plus I want a man I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want sheen in the house. In general, I want

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. We'll usually go mate on the walls. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>and Benjamin Moore is one of the reasons we love

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<v Speaker 1>them Aura, Aura throughout the house. If you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to trims, casings and bass boards, then I just take

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<v Speaker 1>one tiny step up and go like eggs shell or satin,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the brand of paint, eggshell or satin comes

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<v Speaker 1>in order. It's just basically the next sheene step up,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what manufacturer you're using, And that is my

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<v Speaker 5>Well, one least clarification Aura definitely bathroom and spa. But

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<v Speaker 5>did you didn't you also say aura throughout the house?

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<v Speaker 5>If I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the right approach for a dark house because white recycles

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<v Speaker 1>You are Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the program. We are doing an all calls Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Every few weeks, we just clear the decks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I take calls every show, virtually every show, almost without exception,

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<v Speaker 1>So we just do nothing but calls. And to day,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk to Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Dan a hey, I live in a house it's

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<v Speaker 6>not insulated on the inside walls. Is there any insulation

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<v Speaker 6>in paneling that you can put up over stucco on

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<v Speaker 6>the outside to insulate?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So all right, let me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you live in an older home that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 6>That what you're saying, Yeah, right, it's placid walls inside.

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<v Speaker 6>You know it's bought I bought it well, I was

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<v Speaker 6>built back in the sixties, in the early sixties, And

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<v Speaker 6>just curious if there's insulation and paneling that you can

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<v Speaker 6>put up on the outside exterior walls that you know there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is. That's one way of doing it. You

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<v Speaker 1>could You could add furring strips essentially to the stucco

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<v Speaker 1>and then put to rigid paneling. But then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to recoat the entire house. You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>either restucco or reside the outside of the house, uh completely,

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<v Speaker 1>expense in and of itself. Instead of that, I would

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<v Speaker 1>older homes. Now, what I'm about to suggest seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and it kind of is, but it's actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end the least amount of work. You can

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<v Speaker 1>call a foam insulation company and but believe me, spray

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<v Speaker 1>foam or pump foam insulation the best insulation that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get, bar none. You can call a foam insulation

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<v Speaker 1>company and what they will do is they will go

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<v Speaker 1>to drill a whole one hole kind of mid wall

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<v Speaker 1>in every stud bay through the stucco and every stud

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<v Speaker 1>bay around the outside of your house. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of holes. I know it's a lot of holes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're relatively small holes and they're drilled through the stucco

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<v Speaker 1>until they get access into that interior stud bay and

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<v Speaker 1>then with a with a foam pump, they can insert

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<v Speaker 1>a hose up and then down and fill that cavity

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<v Speaker 1>with foam insulation until it's you know, squeezing out the

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<v Speaker 1>hole and they know it's full. It doesn't even matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we can do it when there's existing insulation in

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<v Speaker 1>the hole. It will mix and pressurize in there just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they move on. They can literally insulate all

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<v Speaker 1>of those stud bays through those holes all the way

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<v Speaker 1>around the outside of the house. Then what you're left

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<v Speaker 1>with is a stucco house that has, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of holes in it, you know, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like an inch and a half diameter or two

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<v Speaker 1>inch inch hole every sixteen inches or so all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around the house. That is something that then a

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<v Speaker 1>stucco company can simply patch the hole and then all

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<v Speaker 1>you need is a new finish coat, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>an eighth of an inch of stucco across those exterior walls.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have to tear the old stucco out, don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to add all new sighting to the outside of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a inexpensive procedure, but it's a lot less

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<v Speaker 1>the house, or tearing all the dry wall off the

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<v Speaker 1>inside walls, or anything like that. And these days, with

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<v Speaker 1>our hose applied foam insulation, it works brilliantly well. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll end up with a house that's better air sealed

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<v Speaker 1>than the brand new house that just got built next

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<v Speaker 1>to you with standard bat insulation in it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we would reckon men doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Can they even go bug and below the fireblock?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? They get above and below the fire block. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that way you know the whole wall. It's guaranteed,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole wall is going to get filled up.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, and then all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>In the board exactly, all the way down to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom plate, in the top plate, the entire wall is it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll work. Believe me, it works. We've seen it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically change the way an old house. And that way

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<v Speaker 1>you're not screwing up the inside of the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not paying for brand new stucco everywhere, because stucco

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<v Speaker 1>is three different layers scratch coat, brown coat, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that thin little finish coat. All you're essentially doing is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of patchwork and a new finish coat. No,

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<v Speaker 1>with a new finished coat on the outside of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>no one will ever know the holes had even been made.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're paying for the least expensive part of a

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you are very welcome, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck on that and Uh yeah, I would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>doing it absolutely, and please don't forget Jim the attic

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<v Speaker 1>of all things. I mean, if you only had so

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<v Speaker 1>much money to spend on insulation, the best place to

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<v Speaker 1>insulate and the cheapest place to insulate is to pump

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<v Speaker 1>the attic full of like a like a mineral wool

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<v Speaker 1>insulation loose fill insulation in the attic, to just seal

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<v Speaker 1>it all up. Because you know, heat rises, and so

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have a jacket when you go outside,

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<v Speaker 1>put a hat on and you will stay warmer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not being to be perfect, but it's absolutely your best

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<v Speaker 1>insulation dollar is to add insulation to your already existing

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<v Speaker 1>attic situation. All right, excellent question, and more on the way.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Sharp, The House Whisper, Welcome Home. There's just something

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<v Speaker 1>about that intro music there the Elmer that made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Just felt like we were doing folks singing in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that was. Good call, good call.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your music man, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dean Sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>The House Whisper at your service, Welcome home, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. It is an all calls Sunday morning. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got several calls on the board. There's still room for you, though,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to give it a shot. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like there's a line in front of you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I take calls randomly. So I just reach into the

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<v Speaker 1>barrel here and pull out a collar. That's how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am gentle. I'm gentle when I pull you

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<v Speaker 1>out of the barrel, I promise the number to reach

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<v Speaker 1>me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight three three

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<v Speaker 1>the numeral two. Ask Dean eight three three two. Ask Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>See how that works. That's why we picked that number.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk to Don. Hey Don, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi Don, this is uh.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right. Well, I got I got to listen to

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<v Speaker 7>the folk songs and I just love that. You know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 7>back and then where the it's a the house is

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<v Speaker 7>a race, the race race foundation and where they added

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<v Speaker 7>the family room. It's about eight or nine inches down

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<v Speaker 7>it out, and uh, they had they had remodeled everything

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<v Speaker 7>that The floors were beautiful, They're they're really light wood,

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<v Speaker 7>when I walked out of the main floor, they have

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<v Speaker 7>was looking at the pool and I stepped over it

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<v Speaker 7>and I just landed right on my butt all the

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<v Speaker 7>me there for a minute and then I fortunately I

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<v Speaker 7>have a big butt, so it was okay. But what,

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<v Speaker 7>and I asked, I asked the agent there, I said, what,

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<v Speaker 7>why don't you put something there? Put put some of

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<v Speaker 7>something along there, because yeah, I've been in that house

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<v Speaker 7>many many times and I still fell. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 7>you don't really see the level. There is there any

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<v Speaker 7>suggesting what what the I don't know what he's gonna do,

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<v Speaker 7>but the new owner of what they can do because

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<v Speaker 7>they had it has been a real you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>uncommon thing. Don we We hear about that stuff sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>see it all the time. So I just want to clarify. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the so it's a it's an eight or a nine

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<v Speaker 1>inch step down? Is there no intermediate step there at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just like boom one cliff and you

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<v Speaker 1>got you go from the old house down to the

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<v Speaker 1>new level.

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<v Speaker 7>That's it. And it's from wall to wall. It's just

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<v Speaker 7>all the way across straight one one.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay yeah YOI And uh and that floor down there,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of flooring is on the main house level

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<v Speaker 1>and what kind of flooring is down on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the recessed area.

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<v Speaker 7>They're they're both I don't know if there would there

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<v Speaker 7>they're they're they're brand news, so I don't I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>familiar with the wood. But it's it's very like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>kind of whitewashed colored wood. It's it's when you see

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<v Speaker 7>in the houses these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's all the states, that's the Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>intermediate step all right, Well, you know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a a I don't have a one universal

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<v Speaker 1>solution there when when there's a step involved, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually literally a step, an intermediate step. I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell people, hey, I don't care what you did that

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<v Speaker 1>step in how much it matches the other floor, change it.

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<v Speaker 1>Change that step color to something else, right, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>paint it, or take that wood, refinish it, stain it

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<v Speaker 1>darker in a complementary color, so that everybody notices that

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<v Speaker 1>line there. The problem is nobody sees the line, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not paying attention, that's why everybody's killing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>on this step down here. Plus the fact I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's more than eight inches, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even code.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing that I could consider. Okay, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you could consider that if you got an eight

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<v Speaker 1>inch you've got an eight or a nine inch step down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a taller riser than is allowed in a one

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<v Speaker 1>single step down, okay, And if there's room on the

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<v Speaker 1>lower part, in other words, if there if there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>furniture just backed all the way up right to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>slammed onto that step transition, if there's room immediate step

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<v Speaker 1>so that we can break that nine inches into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half and four and a half, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's add an intermediate step. And let's make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>intermediate step is a different contrasting wood. It could still

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<v Speaker 1>be the hard wood, could still be the same species

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<v Speaker 1>of wood. But if we stain it darker than the

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<v Speaker 1>light floor, everybody will see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody will see it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, barring barring that, think about the flow from the

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<v Speaker 1>existing room out to the other space. And if there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one area really where people can or need to transition,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could build a little pony wall across there.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if a pony wall is going to block the

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<v Speaker 1>view and people feel like, uh like, uh, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of the pony wall is the is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that that that if we channel somebody to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through one particular area, then we're alerting.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, there's a difference here. Okay. Uh more, where if.

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<v Speaker 1>The pony wall it blocks the view and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a pony wall, by the way, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Just for those of you don't know, I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like a half heighth wall, like a thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>or a inch tall wall that used, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>if that darkens the other room, then you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could use in these in houses these days, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>use cable railing. The kind of stuff we would put

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<v Speaker 1>on an exterior deck. We would use cable railing right

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<v Speaker 1>there and still create a wall and channel somebody through. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they literally have they're aware that, hey there's

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<v Speaker 1>a divider here and a step down.

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<v Speaker 2>Be aware.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that way you wouldn't block the view or

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<v Speaker 1>the light. But those are just a couple of ideas

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But honestly, if it's more than eight inches

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<v Speaker 1>of step down, I would put an intermediate step along

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<v Speaker 1>that thing. I would make sure it's a contrasting color.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's good advice, that sounds good. I think they

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<v Speaker 7>had they had put a couch or something on it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, before they moved so. But but this just

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<v Speaker 7>took me. I mean I've been in there many many times,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just won two three, and I stick a

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<v Speaker 7>step and I almost tip my head on the upper level.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh and but fortunately everything worked out for me. And

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<v Speaker 7>I just that's good advice. That was that would that

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<v Speaker 7>would that's just not to kind of damage. I need

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<v Speaker 7>to get somebody that has problem walking, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 7>that's another thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you, John, you know, hand them that advice, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if if they're open to it, because and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get all litigious or anything, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing in the world that I like talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is that the the

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<v Speaker 1>International Building Code you know, allows it here in the

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<v Speaker 1>States for a you know, for for new construction stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, they did that at some point

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago, right, so that an eight inch

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<v Speaker 1>tall riser is the maxim them allowed by code. So

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a code violation there of too tall of

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<v Speaker 1>a step and a blind step, somebody could sue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody could get hurt and actually sue because it is

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<v Speaker 1>technically an unsafe code violation condition and that nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would if it's you know, regardless of all

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<v Speaker 1>the other advice I gave, if it is beyond eight

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<v Speaker 1>inches in height, I would not hesitate to just build in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to cost him that much. Build in

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<v Speaker 1>a secondary step break that you know, nine inches into

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half and four and a half, and

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<v Speaker 1>give people plenty of you know of tread to step

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<v Speaker 1>down onto so that they see the transition and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>has to get injured in a good home. Don thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your call, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>helps all right, y'all more when we return. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper on KFI.

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