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Speaker 1: You are now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome back to Softcore History. I am

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your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as always

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by Dan Richester.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to host you in my house, Rob.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm always happy to be here. This is a

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Christmas wonderland in this corner of the house. And we

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have a special guest with us today, actress and comedian

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It may Gabby Monte.

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Speaker 1: Special so special I am.

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Speaker 3: She crushed her role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Gabby was one of the sketches we shot this weekend.

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Speaker 3: They're coming out probably this week next week.

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Speaker 2: I was look like once a week, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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who did want a week? Yeah? Maybe dropping maybe like

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one all before the New year maybe or something like that.

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Who knows that would not be one a week I know,

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but let's be like one a week and then two

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one week type of thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, little bonus Yeah, why not for

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the holidays.

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Speaker 2: That'll be on the socials and the YouTube. It's so

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uh if you're a part of the Patreon, will drop

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those links in the discord too, so you can go

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like and check it out.

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Speaker 3: But I have some additional content on the Patreon behind

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the scenes footage.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just some bts. I don't know. We can do

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some out takes, yeah, why not? There actually are some.

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I could have had more outtakes because Bousch was making

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me piss my pants half the time as a pedophile.

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Don't ruin anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can't wait?

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Speaker 3: Yeah boosh, wait so those will be on our YouTube shorts, Instagram,

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a software history.

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Speaker 2: My TikTok. We're just trying to rack up views at

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this point. Let the advertisers know we reach the people

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anywhere they are anywhere. But yeah, Gabby crush her role.

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Speaker 3: We're shameless, really yeah, one hundred per But.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a fun, fun show today, our first

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Christmas themed show of the year.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it only took till halfway through the month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, you know, we haven't anything about Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It did a Pearl Harbor episode, I mean a little

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Christmas y. It had a Christmas party involved in it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's giving the same energy as die Hard is

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a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 2: I like die Hard. It's yeah, Pearl Pearl Harbor is

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a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 1: Pearl a Christmas is a Christmas And if you don't agree,

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you're not a patriot because.

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Speaker 2: We come back. Wein no I thought today, Like you know,

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a lot of times, the holidays can be depressing for people. Really,

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you have something you want to say, they don't like it.

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The holidays are more depressing for me now than they've

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ever been. With children. You have multiple kids. Yeah, and

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it's horrible now because you have to do AL from

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the shelf.

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Speaker 1: You don't don't do that to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just started this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, al every day. It's it's the surveillance

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state for kids.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, they need to learn. It's well, maybe

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your kids do need it that I'm not fucking working.

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I don't know what to do, like I do need

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to like put him holding a knife.

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Speaker 3: Get the specific Palanteer sponsored elf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we don't do it. We don't do

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anything like crazy. My wife just like moves them to

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a different corner of the room.

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Speaker 3: I've seen some good stuff online and my friend Shay

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also does a lot of good stuff every day for

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her kid with the ELF. It blows my mind. It

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also just seems exhausting.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's like too much, like parents do

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y'all be doing too much?

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Speaker 2: The best one I ever saw was so you're not

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supposed touch the elf. That's like the whole thing. You're

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not supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's there. They can't touch it, nobody can see,

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nobody can touch it.

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Speaker 2: No one can touch it. So one parent like caught

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her kid touching their elf, loses the magic and the

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yeah and the So the kid came down the next

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morning and she had like taken the ELF's head off

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of its body stop and then put all chicken bones

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beneath it. That the kid was like.

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Speaker 3: The elf.

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Speaker 1: I hate that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I've seen the dad put the elf on like

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a kitchen appliance that spins and that or have Barbie.

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an elf has thrown money.

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Speaker 2: It was a kitchen aid mixer doing the.

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Speaker 1: There was another one where they did like hershey kisses

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and like melted them on the toilet seat and it

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was like the elf took a ship missed.

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Speaker 2: We did that this morning and the elf pooped her

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she kisses and the night.

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Speaker 3: That seems like a common Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, kids love a poop joke, they really do.

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Speaker 2: My children won't fucking stop.

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Speaker 1: They love and they love to say pooped, don't they

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they do.

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Speaker 3: Rob Actually, one day when we were at work together,

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smiled and told me, I'm so proud of my son

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because he told Courtney a poop joke.

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Speaker 2: I was proud. But now that's all it is. Oh god,

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he's really oversaturated. He's leaning into hard yeah, because he

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got gotta laugh. Yeah, and now he's just chasing that

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one dragon.

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Speaker 1: He's so obnoxious and chasing laughs. Where did he get

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that from?

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Speaker 3: True Austin comics fashion, You just like, really hammer one

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joke in the ground, nonp.

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Speaker 1: He's just repeating the punchline louder and louder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And if he's a real Austin comic, you know,

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like he'll he'll start with the poop and yeah. Then

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it'll be like, yeah, I'm gonna make you eat retard

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poop and then everyone gets a laugh. Yeah, yeah, it

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gets a huge laugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That thing's funnier than a four year old sing slurs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the first time that kids, that's just first time,

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it's kids say the darned to sing. Second time it's

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oh do you believe this?

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Speaker 1: And then it's like a little performative Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: But no, I thought for anyone out there, we's bummed

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this holiday. Just know that someone's had a worse one

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out there. And this is the tale of what might

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unambiguously be the worst company Christmas party in American history.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, I'm down, I'm seated.

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Speaker 3: Does this have to do with like a major corporation,

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perhaps a Macy's.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I mean it. No, it does

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evolve like kind of a big company, but not when

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you've heard of but I assumed they were very big

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at the time.

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Speaker 1: Real debauchery has always been like finance railroads.

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Speaker 3: I would love to be a railroad magnetic.

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Speaker 1: And imagine a railroad Christmas party in the Gilded Age,

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fucking crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah for you guys.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been fun for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have been working.

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Speaker 1: No no, yeah, okay, okay, get back to the kitchen.

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Merry fucking Christmas. I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen thirteen, so we needed some backstory on this.

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In nineteen thirteen, Michigan copper miners in the Upper Peninsula

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went on strike, and they went on strike a lot

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back then, miners and all kinds of blue collar you

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always hear about, like coal miners going to strike and

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always complaining, always whining they get more days off than bankers.

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I swear to God, with all those strikes, it's ridiculous,

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But I do enjoy their constant leverage of No one

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else wants.

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Speaker 1: To do this, I mean, and they're not wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pay us.

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Speaker 3: More, no one of When they get stuck, it always

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becomes like a worldwide.

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Speaker 1: Phenomenon when a miner is stuck on the ground.

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Speaker 3: When multiple multiple mining, Yeah, it's usually like a dozen.

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Speaker 1: One does it make the headlines?

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Speaker 2: No one. You don't even tell anyone about.

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Speaker 1: One is only what only matters to his people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But like you know, twelve Chilean miners.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that story, do you ironically? You can't

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bury that story.

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Speaker 1: You really can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna yeah, that's gonna get out there. But so,

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unions were sweeping the nation. This is early twentieth century,

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and uh, the Western Federation of Miners wanted to unionize

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the miners in copper country in Michigan in nineteen twelve

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is when it started. And they had serious complaints at

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the time, certainly.

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Speaker 3: Back when we used to make pennies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we even need the copper for now?

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Speaker 3: Why goddamn thing?

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Speaker 2: Not a goddamn thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like that's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing you can steal the copper wires, go down to

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the Carolinas, Oh sure, or just be white trash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the way you sell that copper wire. If you

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ever grew up like I didn't grow up in the hood,

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but if you ever grew up like near the hood,

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one way to tell is it there would be if

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anyone's building had like part of like the awning or

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the roof pulled back, it was because the roof was

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like copper. Oh wow, that was like we were like

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driving by. When I was like, what happened? Was there

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like a small tornado? My dad was like, nah, I

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think people would just try to steal the copper roof.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not grow up in the hood. The

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first time I heard a car without a catalytic converter,

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I was like twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Dustin Johnson famously stole copper wire as a child and

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like teen and now he's married to Wayne Gretzky's daughter.

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Look look where he got great.

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Speaker 2: He grew up in like Carol redneck. Yeah, okay, he

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was a total piece country Appalachia type of situation a

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little further south, but yeah, Okay, So these miners, they

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had some fine complaints, like legitimate complaints, like because they

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kind of worked in remote areas, the mines controlled everything.

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It was like a mining town, so like the mine

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owned all the housing, owned all the stores, and they

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kind of controlled their whole lives. So like if you

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got too drunk completely outside of work, like not getting

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shit faced in the mine, like it's just a Sunday

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and you're like, I'm gonna get fucked up today, Like nope,

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you could get fired for that. Miners also typically only

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had one day off per week and work ten to

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twelve hour shifts.

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Speaker 3: Your intentured servants, Yeah, oh yeah, because you can only

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shop at the companies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like pay you in like their dollars, like

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in their little like mining bugs.

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Speaker 3: You get David Busters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you can only spend it here forty tickets. Wow,

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I bought a three foot pixie.

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Speaker 2: Stay, I got a little army man. Yeah, you could

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buy this apartment inside of Dave and Busters and live

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here off nothing but day.

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Speaker 3: Bug, although three billion tickets.

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Speaker 2: If you know, ski ball is not the worst job

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in the world, but eventually you're working the dishes to

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afford your Dave and Buster's rent, Like, you're not just

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winning tickets on ski ball at that point, not.

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Speaker 1: Just tickets.

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Speaker 3: Going over your company credit line.

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Speaker 2: Always prices go up.

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Speaker 3: It's design though, they're trying to have you for life. Yeah,

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it's slavery, right, Yeah, that's all it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that was a problem. And they also

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Speaker 1: Let's save the kids for when we really can't, like

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when our shoulders are really too big to get in. Like,

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let's let's use the kids a bit more.

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Speaker 3: Sparingly, right, you know, a lot of like the tech

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giants now they are trying to go back to that. Obviously.

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They want to build these like cities that are designed

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around like a giant company like Google that everyone in

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the company lives in.

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Speaker 1: Walmart does that now, They did that in Ventonville, Like

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everyone that lives in Bentonville works for Walmart corporate.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Like that they like and it's like all the parks

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are Walmart sponsored and all, like there's huge neighbor like

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neighborhoods that you can only buy a house and if

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you like work at Walmart.

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Speaker 3: Like walkable city, it's.

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Speaker 1: A walmartable city, walkable. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: What as long as it's walkable.

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Speaker 1: If hey, if you walk an affordable home in a

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walkable city, it's all. It's the American dream.

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Speaker 2: It's impossible to fight.

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Speaker 1: It's impossible.

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Speaker 2: There was a fact there was another one like that too,

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or oh no, I was gonna say, it's with Google,

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Like they kind of do that already because their benefits

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are so good, like and they have all this food

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and shit there. They're just like, you don't have to

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ever leave. Why don't you just staying work till midnight.

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It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: You could just don't even go home. You can you

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can use a nap pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just take a nap, it's fine, and showering

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to blow off some steam.

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Speaker 3: We have ping pong tables.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think got a little bit of booze there,

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catered lunch fruds. So they also like fuck the miners

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over on pay and stuff like that, where if they

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would make sure no matter how much the miners work,

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they always basically made the same every month by subtracting

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extra for like candles and you know, steel used in drills,

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all this other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Any you have to pay for. Yeah oh that pickaxe

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you got paid for that body broke it.

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Speaker 1: And like you start off with like your in debt

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ten thousand dollars because if like the supplies you need to.

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Speaker 2: Do the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like Mary kay, Yeah, it's fucking yeah exactly.

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If you want to work here, you need to spend

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ten thousand dollars. Don't worry, We'll just take it out

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of your check.

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Speaker 2: And it's fine. That was how it was for me

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when I worked at a bar. I was like a

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cook at a bar in college, and after after like work,

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i would go out and have some beers and I'd

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be like, just put it on the paycheck and I'd

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like get my paycheck at the end of the week

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and just be like.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, it was like minus everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was never minus, but there were there

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were actually, like because this is middle Missouri, there were

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some like adult cooks in the kitchen lifers who would

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like owe money on pay day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was not great, And.

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Speaker 1: Somehow I still always have coke. You're like what, yeah, hey, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I spend all the money on drugs. Yeah yeah,

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I was like Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: They have long hours, and.

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Speaker 2: There were some mineworkers who so they were like more

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skilled mind workers, and there were less skilled mind workers

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called trammers. They were paid less because they were less skilled,

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but their job was still like physically brutal. They weren't

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happy about that. Now. One of the miners' biggest complaints,

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which I actually think is an annoying one in bullshit,

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is they got very mad about something called the one

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man drill. Uh. There used to be a thing called

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the three man drill, and then the two man drill,

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and then they got a one man drill.

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Speaker 3: So three man weave basketball warm up drill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. They were mad because now it just

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took less people to do the job. So technology was

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and they were mad at the the They were like

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demanding the company go back to worse technology essentially so.

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Speaker 1: They could like work enough hours to support their families.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, those those selfish assholes.

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Speaker 2: And the company was like, I mean no, no, there

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one complaint that was legit about it. Those that they

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called the one man drill the widow maker.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, they also use that term for way too

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many things.

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Speaker 2: The widow Maker is like, there's at least one hundred

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different things.

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Speaker 1: Little Maker is the like widget of.

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Speaker 2: Devices that he'll be dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be a sweet fight name, like for a boxer.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure they've somebody's used it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so nobody relevant.

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Speaker 2: At least didn't we do an episode where the one

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Max Bear. Didn't we do an episode with him recently?

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He wasn't the central central figure, but the boxer who

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like fought in Cinderella Man. He's like the bad guy

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in Cinderella Man. Uh. He killed several people in the ring,

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or at least one person in the ring, and he

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was like very upset about it, but everyone tried to

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kind of put that label on him. Widow Maker, Please

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do have horrific guilt about this. Please stop. Can't sleep, I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't slept, Please stop.

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Speaker 2: That goes the Widow Maker, and he's just like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, he's lost all his muscle masks.

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He's just fucking so yeah, please looks like shit.

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Speaker 2: Uh, But it's actually like the problem with the one

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problem with the one Man Drill is that like if

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someone did have an accident like on the two man

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drill and the three man drill. If there's a spodder, right,

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so now there's no.

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Speaker 1: Spotterer, so you don't even know when somebody does.

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Speaker 2: You find him like three hours later, oh.

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Speaker 1: God, when they're like, okay, why why isn't he done yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where if you're incredibly injured, there's no saving you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no. So that was their one problem with it.

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But I mean at the end of the day, it

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was like, it's better technology. Like I agree with all

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the rest of their stuff, but obviously the company is

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going to use better Go with.

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Speaker 3: The better technology. Fuck human beings. That's the message you're

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going to give out to the people here.

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Speaker 2: You know what. Then shoot on film and edit with

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a razor.

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Speaker 3: Would love to, would love to if we had the tech,

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if we got tech the money, Yeah, and then bought

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the backing, the actual you know, seventy milimeter.

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Speaker 1: It's dan just like cutting and pasting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If we did this podcast Christopher Nolan style, like

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the episode five views on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the episode will be out in a month.

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Speaker 1: But man, that color, the composition is wrgeous. It's just

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it's just like warm.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to do it for the sketches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll shoot on film for the sketches.

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Speaker 3: Our first motion picture.

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Speaker 2: Maybe. So the man what was the name of this thing?

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The Western Federation of Minors got with them and they

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began calling for you know, all the like just changing

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all the ship that sucked, which is fair enough. The

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Keewanaw chapters voted to strike on July twenty third night.

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Speaker 1: Wait what did you say, QAnon.

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Speaker 2: Keywana Keewanaw like a Native American name.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Actually, these guys actually kind of go way back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they go way there.

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Speaker 1: Their influences stretch for than we think.

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Speaker 3: So the guy that stormed the capitol with the head dress,

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it actually makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like he wasn't appropriating. Give that

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guy a break, sim he's just using his culture, setting

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his culture exactly.

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Speaker 2: So they called strike July twenty third, nineteen thirteen, and

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the WFM begins to collect donations and fees from its

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members to support the strike. And all the copper country

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mines are hit. They're all shut down with the strike.

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After the first day of the strike, mobs of strikers

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started blocking access to the mines all this stuff. Miners

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held daily parades to boost morale and show their strength,

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and of course the mine owners went out and a

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hired goons and b asked the governor to call in

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the National Guard, which they did.

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Speaker 1: They call those guys for too much shit they were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the amount of unions or local militias that fought

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the US Army, there's numerous, innumerable, like it just doesn't stop. Yeah,

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all throughout Appalachia, the Ross Belt.

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Speaker 2: There's also just like a lot of people forget, like

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militia on militia war former Urans like yeah, just.

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Speaker 1: Like the Jets and the fucking like West Side story. Yeah, yeah,

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just like or like two friend groups that are mad

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at each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like soaps. The famous most famous one, not

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football wise, but like American wives would be Bleeding Kansas,

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which was Missouri and Kansas probably the Civil.

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Speaker 3: War or also after the Revolutionary War. I think Vermont,

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yeah wanted to get some Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, there's been a lot. But there was another one

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the Vermont attacked Massachusetts. I don't know vice versa. It

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was something like that. Yeah, I couldn't tell the details

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to my head, but you're you are right, that's something

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like that happened. Green Mountain Boys or something. I think

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they might have been the Revolution, but you are right,

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like that happened, like they might have been both.

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Speaker 1: At the Ben and Jerry boys, those guys.

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Speaker 2: But uh went to state. The the Ohio state Michigan

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rivalry started from an intrastate militia war that had nothing

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to do with the Civil War. Yeah, it was like

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about state boundaries or something like that, like the most

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meaningless thing, Like can you imagine taking a musketball to

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like have part of Cleveland and Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I would fight for Pennsylvania if Jersey got a little.

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Speaker 1: Chirpie Jerseys asking for it.

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Speaker 3: Beach front property for Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: How much bigger? Yeah? They really they really Croatia you.

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Oh they kept you off the beach completely.

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Speaker 3: South Jersey's essentially Philadelphia in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we should have just kind of come heard

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what Veronica calls South Jersey. What you call it the

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slower lower.

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Speaker 3: The slower lower, she says, she.

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Speaker 1: Like she says in high school that her and her

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friends would always talk about people from South Jersey and

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so that they were dumb. Yeah, I mean film, it's

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the slower lower.

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Speaker 3: It's we're little brothers.

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Speaker 2: Said that to.

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Speaker 1: Someone from South Jersey and that wasn't a term they

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had ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, they keep it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't go well for me. She brings it

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up every time I every time she sees me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's like, she's like, it's me.

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Speaker 1: This lower lower And I'm like, good, fucked whatever, sorry,

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Like I didn't my people.

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Speaker 3: Would go to South Jersey. So that makes sense, yeah,

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wild hood.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Dan wants to go back to film

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fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So obviously things get violent, people fight back and forth,

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so on and so forth. It's just typical minor union

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strike shit, right, Like it's just goons on goons, nothing crazy,

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I mean crazy shit, but like nothing out of the ordinary,

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I should say. They the mining company was like, we

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are not fucking negotiating, Like we are killing this in

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the fucking cradle, no fucking way. By August of nineteen thirteen,

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most of the mines had enough scabs to keep working.

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Speaker 1: Not a very successful strike.

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Speaker 2: No not. This strike does not go very well. And

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the mine companies are fucking pissed because they don't want

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the unions there. So the mine is.

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Speaker 3: Such the biggest scab. You would, yeah, you would, I

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would undercut everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, my favorite, like.

475
00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a wife and kids, pay me less

476
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,720
kill me.

477
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,559
Speaker 2: Well, actually, many of these scabs were maybe slaves. Uh.

478
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,000
It was, by the way, nineteen thirteen in America. I

479
00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:18,240
just the thing I read for one of the things

480
00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:19,960
I read for this said some of these workers is

481
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,960
a direct quote. Some of these workers may have been

482
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,359
impressed into service against their will. Mm. I don't know

483
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,559
if they like went to Michigan and were like, you

484
00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,440
got any prisoners, Like, did you just have any like

485
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,440
crazy murderers and rapists we can toss in the mind.

486
00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:37,640
Have any Irish? Yeah, do you have any just Irish

487
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:43,000
Italians that we can exploit? And they also brought in

488
00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:46,839
like immigrant labor and uh, just people from other states

489
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,640
who didn't give a fuck about crossing the picket line

490
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,519
of people they didn't know or care about or whatever.

491
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,200
So the mines are working and the miners who are striking,

492
00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,680
the funds from the union are starting to run out,

493
00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:04,839
and they are in essentially like poverty at this point,

494
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,880
like they it's not.

495
00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: And they weren't flushed before.

496
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,279
Speaker 2: No, no, they only had Dave and Busters bucks.

497
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, living hand to mouth with Dave and Buster's bucks. Yeah,

498
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,920
it does not prepare you for a strike, but it is.

499
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: A situation where you get like free play for a casino.

500
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:23,079
Speaker 1: As long as you're seated.

501
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: So with everyone living in poverty, a lot of people

502
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,920
just left there. We can't fucking do this anymore. And

503
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,880
they left for Chicago and Detroit because this is an

504
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,279
industrial center and you know, they're just the jobs.

505
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: There's a factory whatever, right.

506
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: Just find another take your.

507
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: Disease lungs and hurt them more in different conditions.

508
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 2: But in a city, a walkable city, In a walkable city.

509
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: Pack of smoke, so.

510
00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:53,319
Speaker 2: Everyone's ripping unfiltered heaters, there's everything's powered by coal. You

511
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,680
walk like there's cars now, so you're just crossing the

512
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,240
street and every car is just right in your fucking face,

513
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,839
stepping in horseshit. I don't it might have been better

514
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,559
for you, honestly, horseshit.

515
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: No, the car, the car, The amount of just feces

516
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,400
all throughout the city.

517
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good.

518
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,039
Speaker 2: In the water, yeah, it gets into the groundwater, it

519
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,759
gets into the water supply like it just naturally it rains,

520
00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:19,880
and all the horseshit just liquefies into horse diarrhea and

521
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,759
runs into the.

522
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:23,519
Speaker 3: When did human beings decide it's a bad idea to

523
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:26,519
dump feces and waste into the They.

524
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: Haven't, like, not that long ago happen.

525
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: Some places still have.

526
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, in many places they have not really bothered.

527
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: We didn't have a come to Jesus moment in like

528
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,640
the seventeen hundreds.

529
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: No, not then, definitely not. Dude, go look at the Renaissance.

530
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: No, are you kidding?

531
00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:46,599
Speaker 2: Didn't we do an episode on horses something with horses

532
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:47,839
in New York or something like that where it was

533
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,640
just like the amount of horseshit in the city before

534
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,599
cars got there was like unfathomable.

535
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we had to have had the

536
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,920
realization gone backwards, fixed it, and then we just kind

537
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,240
of go back and forth, like angelum, we just stopped

538
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,759
caring after whether or not we dump things into rivers?

539
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what and what we don't if not ship

540
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,279
then trash. I think we just a b test it constantly.

541
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,240
It's like, all right, shit didn't work, but maybe nuclear

542
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:17,640
waste will be fun. Yeah. Yeah, and we're getting soft

543
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,839
because of it. Yeah. I mean, COVID wouldn't have ravaged

544
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,680
us two hundred years ago. Better immune systems, you know,

545
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,759
not just kidding. I would have killed like a hundred

546
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,960
million people, but uh it would have been like Spanish

547
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,079
Influenza two point zero.

548
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, easily.

549
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: But uh yeah where they're just like shit. I think

550
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,319
the cars were initially better than having rotting feces all

551
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,079
over your city. Yeah, because the amount of horseship my

552
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,039
children model ts.

553
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:48,799
Speaker 1: I know, it's such a it looks it's like a

554
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,160
Barbie car. It's like there's like no windship.

555
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Cunkey as hell. Yeah yeah, but it's still just.

556
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: The exult going like nineteen miles an hour, just.

557
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: Like people dying.

558
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: They're going through their windshields in their class.

559
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the windshields just out of straight pained glass. Car

560
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:04,359
accidents used to be screwsome.

561
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what happened, He's going four miles an hour?

562
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Was he wearing his seat belt? His? What? Oh? His?

563
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,799
Speaker 1: Was he distracted?

564
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

565
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,759
Speaker 3: My grandfather got saved by not wearing a seatbelt in

566
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,200
a car accident. He felt he was like in a

567
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,200
delivery truck with one that didn't have a door, fell

568
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,960
out the door and the steering wheel went through his seat.

569
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:31,079
So the steering wheel would have went through him if

570
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:32,039
he didn't fall off a car.

571
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: You don't know, the seat belt wouldn't have stoped that

572
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,680
stop the steering wheel?

573
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it probably would have. Wouldn't have

574
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,079
I mean sounds like it sounds like the lesson is

575
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:42,839
don't wear seatbelts.

576
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wouldn't be here if it was for him

577
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:45,440
wearing a seatbelt.

578
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:49,079
Speaker 2: I trust the experts. Seatbelts click at her ticket?

579
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, shouldn't that kind of be my choice with my body.

580
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,880
Nobody's in my car. I'm not gonna hurt anyone else but.

581
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:01,599
Speaker 1: This belt on and then sit on top of it.

582
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,079
Speaker 2: That's true. It's not just your body that has laws

583
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,079
against it, all of our bodies.

584
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to govern us. They're trying to tell

585
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,559
us what to do. They're taking away our freedoms.

586
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to fucking click it.

588
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to click it. It takes it takes

589
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:17,160
time away from me.

590
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: Plus and it wrinkles your outfit.

591
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: It does you ever try to put like a seatbelt

592
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,599
on with a suit.

593
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: And they try to bully you. They put that annoying

594
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,319
beep in every new car. Yeah, just click it behind

595
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,799
you as if I'm going to be faced.

596
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,279
Speaker 1: Click it in and lie.

597
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 3: I drive hours. Put that thing on.

598
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: You just turn the music up.

599
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,799
Speaker 1: Mine's so loud.

600
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 3: Put on some Ronnie James deal.

601
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Holy Diver. Is that her new bit? Why not?

602
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:47,799
Are you ready to rock?

603
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Boys and girls?

604
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 2: It's a deep cut South Park joke.

605
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: Helen Slackerman got a new career.

606
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very similar to the Slager Boys. So

607
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,799
in the winner of nineteen thirteen, strike is going real

608
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,920
bad and the people that are still around have just

609
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,000
no fucking money. Christmas rolls around these people of families,

610
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,319
these people of children, and there's no joy. There's no

611
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,160
joy in their lives.

612
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: Sparks, no joy.

613
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on Christmas.

614
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:23,519
Speaker 1: Eve, no heat in their lives.

615
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I can't imagine they're living in warm

616
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,640
homes at this point. On Christmas Eve of nineteen thirteen,

617
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,559
many of the striking miners and their families were gathered

618
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,359
invited for a holiday party sponsored by the wfm's Ladies Auxiliary.

619
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 1: Okay, so the people that are not going to work

620
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,440
are invited for a party, come to Okay, that's a

621
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,079
little fishy.

622
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's the it's the Union's party, the WFM.

623
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,759
Speaker 1: Okay, oka. Sorry, I thought it was like their bosses.

624
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: No, it's the union, it's the union organization, because.

625
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,079
Speaker 1: They're like it's that they were out of money. What

626
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,440
the fuck?

627
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I got no mine? Is this party?

628
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,279
Essentially though, like the the people running the union and

629
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:12,319
the Ladies' auxiliary are like they feel bad obviously because

630
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,319
the strike's been going for I think half a year

631
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,359
at this point pretty much. And yeah, morel's low miners

632
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,440
and their families they don't they can't buy presents for

633
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,920
their kids for Christmas. Like there's no they're just they're

634
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,240
just eating cold bread and no presents for Christmas type

635
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,839
of situation. So Annie Clemenc, the union leader and uh

636
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,480
wife of wanting the one of the protesting miners, she

637
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,759
organizes a Christmas party for the striking families and she's

638
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,200
solicited donations from other like other unions and the town

639
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,519
and everything for hats, mittens, toys, fruit, candy, all stuff

640
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,160
for the strikers children's so they could everyone could at

641
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,599
least get one present for Christmas. It was a nice gesture,

642
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,359
like way to stick up for the working man. We're

643
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,440
sorry this hurts so much, and we're sorry they're winning basically.

644
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: One gift, though I'd rather have none.

645
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:06,279
Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't.

646
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: No, you would wouldn't rather have zero gifts when you

647
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,640
have no Okay, maybe you the bitch ass child. But

648
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,279
the parent has to give their kids something.

649
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: And they don't have a hat, they don't have a

650
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,799
winter hat, and they open their one gift and it's

651
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:19,880
something that'll keep them alive a little bit long.

652
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Imagine you get one gift and it sucks.

653
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Well, like the kid gets a hat and it's like

654
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,359
he's pissed because another kid gets a train, and it's like, no, well,

655
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,119
Timmy got a train, so Timmy's gonna die, yeah, because

656
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,480
Timmy can't stay warm. Now, Timmy's gonna have to burn

657
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,240
that train tonight.

658
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:35,359
Speaker 1: Timmy's mom is turning tricks, and that's why Timmy got

659
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:35,720
a train.

660
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:37,119
Speaker 3: She had a train.

661
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,839
Speaker 1: M Timmy's mom had a train and got Timmy a train.

662
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Train for train, train for train. Yeah, so you are

663
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,160
what you eat? No?

664
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: Uh close, not quite.

665
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: No, you could eat it, I guess, dick.

666
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean that's not the train.

667
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,559
Speaker 2: Though, that's a spit ros.

668
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: If you have to face you, that's a train.

669
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,839
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, that's a frontal t rain I guess yeah, yeah,

670
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,000
you get a mouth train run on you.

671
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,759
Speaker 1: That passes the place.

672
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, passes the train tests the test, Yeah, the train.

673
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,839
Speaker 1: This is the other train experiment, essentially, like.

674
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: There's a guy with an erection laying down on the

675
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,359
bed and everyone's running train on you from one side,

676
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480
and then someone pulls his winger like it's the lever

677
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,759
on the tracks, and then everyone moves around to the

678
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,559
other side, runs train on the mouth, switches the tracks or.

679
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: What if they all run and it's just like it's

680
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:38,200
like when you put a baseball card in your bike's Boke's.

681
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Just like it's just like, good God, just back and forth.

682
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,079
I feel like that would have been a great, uh

683
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
form of like torture in the War on Terror.

684
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,119
Speaker 3: Oh, that's just called the car wash.

685
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,519
Speaker 2: Like you just put no, you just take a terrace

686
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,920
like it gets and put it in the smoke of

687
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,359
bikes and then just fucking ride them.

688
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,359
Speaker 1: Oh ouch, that would be good terror. That would be

689
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640
good torture. Yeah, that sounds torturous.

690
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,279
Speaker 2: You just get Lance Armstrong.

691
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm so gross. Why do I think of this ship?

692
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:03,839
All right?

693
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: Because you're an Austin commed I'm so gross.

694
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,759
Speaker 1: I know I'm so hack, I kill myself. All right,

695
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:09,519
Merry Christmas.

696
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 2: It's all right, we're all hacks here. So there was

697
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,519
free gifts, there was entertainment, There was gonna Santa was

698
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,359
gonna make an appearance. It's gonna be really fun. Over

699
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240
seven hundred people showed.

700
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: Up to this little shitty Santa.

701
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: Though, what do you mean?

702
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he was skinny. Times are lean, Yeah,

703
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:27,759
you know.

704
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: You don't need a skinny Santa. That's how you get

705
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,559
snowballs thrown at Santa as a Philadelphia And I know

706
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,799
it was because Santa, Yeah wasn't It was like my

707
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,359
grandparents' generation for the Eagles game. Santa didn't show up

708
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880
for halftime for a Christmas game, So they pulled a

709
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,519
guy out of the stands that was dressed in a

710
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,319
really shoddy Santa costume and he was a skinny Santa,

711
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,759
so he got all the snowball but he was.

712
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,079
Speaker 1: Just a guy, like he was just a guy and

713
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:57,519
enjoying the football game in a in a Santa suit

714
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,319
seasonally relevant costume.

715
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: He was pulled out into the coliseum for tribute Jesus

716
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,519
and they made it rain on him. Yeah, that's all

717
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:05,799
it was.

718
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: He had a train round.

719
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:13,039
Speaker 2: It might as well be an ancient room. Yeah, honestly, snowballs. Yikes, yeah, yikes.

720
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,359
They had this party uh at uh like event hall

721
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,599
called Italian Hall and everyone Diego Hall. Dago No, not

722
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,960
just Italian Hall. It wasn't Saint Louis, wasn't Dago Hill,

723
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:27,039
which we just called the Hill.

724
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Nowdego Hall's a great name.

725
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Too, it is. I agree. So everyone's having a great time.

726
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440
It's a wonderful time. It's good. Things are going as planned,

727
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,240
like kids are getting their gifts, Santa is about to

728
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,640
come out.

729
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,319
Speaker 3: What makes for a good company Christmas party probably an.

730
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Open open bar, not just beer and wine, liquor liquor,

731
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:54,359
drunk ours, and then like hot.

732
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: Appetizers you would get at a wedding that you have

733
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:58,400
like a server walking around with some like crap cake balls.

734
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,799
Speaker 1: H I love a cocktail wiener, like those little mini

735
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:08,039
mini smokies. I love those. Just yeah, those guys, that's

736
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:08,759
what you needed.

737
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: At Christmas party. Actually, the Golf Channel Christmas party was

738
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,440
so dope at Bayhill that this giant ice sculpture and

739
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,599
then jumbo shrimph the size of my head.

740
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh, crab, crab, legs, not crab legs, but like that's

741
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,880
what I wanted. Mine is crablegs.

742
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: Already cracked. Are you doing the crack?

743
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Oh I'm doing the cracking. Okay, I'm getting down. I'm

744
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,559
getting down dirty.

745
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:30,759
Speaker 2: Nobody ewing out.

746
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,319
Speaker 1: King get a bib, like a branded bib like you know,

747
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,319
blah blah blah. Christmas Party twenty twenty five.

748
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,119
Speaker 3: Yeah you go, Blue crab, though, that's a lot of

749
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:41,640
work for little meat. You need the king crab.

750
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: That's a winter crab, right, king crab. You get those

751
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,559
in the winter. Now it's in season.

752
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry. Now stop, I'm dying. I'm gonna eat

753
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,799
the microphone.

754
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: So Santa comes out and he's about to address the children.

755
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,240
In fact, the children were allegedly lining up to go

756
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:07,799
on stage and receive their presence from Santa. Ho ho ho.

757
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,280
But before Santa could bellow ho ho ho oh no

758
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:20,920
no no, another voice bellowed fire, oh no, fire.

759
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,599
Speaker 3: Fires to take out so many.

760
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: People, especially back, like everything's would.

761
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: A man in the doorway started screaming that there was

762
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,800
a fire.

763
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,599
Speaker 3: This is a copper town. I don't know if copper

764
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,480
ignites like coal.

765
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:41,079
Speaker 2: Probably not, but all the buildings. Yeah, all the buildings

766
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,599
are made of wood, and if there is electricity, it's

767
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,960
shitty wiring, and if there's not, it's kerosene lamps everywhere.

768
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,000
So one thing to note about Italian Hall, Like many

769
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,519
buildings of the day, there's really no such thing as

770
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,280
a fire code or any sort.

771
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Of building code suppression system.

772
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,159
Speaker 2: And one exit. One exit, Oh.

773
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: It's always one yeah, and it's probably not marked.

774
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, they're on the second floor. No, it's unfortunately they

775
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,079
all know where the exit is. It's on the second

776
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,719
floor and it's a narrow stairway down to the first floor.

777
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:20,159
Hearing the cry of fire, everyone there with their children

778
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,679
and their families.

779
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure acted rationally.

780
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: They everyone filed single file orderly. Q. Yeah.

781
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: Everyone got out safe and sound or they lived happily.

782
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: Ever happened.

783
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 1: That's why we're telling the story.

784
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,679
Speaker 2: All seven hundred people went straight for the narrow staircase

785
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,239
that led down to the first floor.

786
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 3: But believe or not, I tried to like slide down

787
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:46,360
the railing.

788
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,079
Speaker 2: You know. I'm sure there was one or two people

789
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,360
at like the first five people got through and they're like,

790
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,320
oh few, huh, we did it. Good timing, Yeah, they're like, look,

791
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,760
how cool.

792
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,559
Speaker 1: That's why it pays to be late. I was just

793
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:57,360
walking in and.

794
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Now I was I heard fire and I just got out.

795
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,199
I mean my kidney. But everyone's trying to go down

796
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:01,719
the stairs.

797
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: Some fucking cool dude just kind of puts his butt

798
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,519
on the railing and slides on down.

799
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: But it's probably a spiral, so you.

800
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: Can only it's I believe it's it was straight. Pretty

801
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,559
sure it was straight. But regardless, not great.

802
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a work out for most.

803
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,159
Speaker 3: In kind of grind like like a fifty to fifty

804
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:19,679
grind down.

805
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're Marty McFly on. That kid's scooter cracks off

806
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,800
the bottom since is the skateboard now, So all seven

807
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,280
hundred people rush straight for the staircase and things get

808
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:36,840
cramped fast. Uh Al Harvey, a resident of Calumet, which

809
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,599
was the town that was in was present that night

810
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,960
calum at Michigan. He heard loud cries coming from the

811
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,360
hall blocks away from where he was, and him and

812
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,599
his friend Joe Cattle, who is the chief of police

813
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,039
in Calumet, ran to the hall to help out. He

814
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,519
described the scene. The hallway was jammed clean from the

815
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:56,079
top to the bottom there. They were jammed in there,

816
00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:58,840
one on top of the other. I've never seen anything

817
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,159
like it.

818
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: So he's watching the from down.

819
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,199
Speaker 2: This human crush from the bottom of the stairs. Another

820
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,760
paper wrote, in less than three minutes they were jammed

821
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,119
and crushed in the hallway being used as a roadway,

822
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719
over which their companions were vainly endeavoring to escape. The

823
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,639
scene was a horrible one and will never be effaced

824
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,280
from the minds of those who witnessed the terrible tragedy.

825
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,360
So it became an immediate human crush in the stairway.

826
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,199
It's all seven hundred people tried to get down away

827
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,119
from the fire.

828
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: And before they got their Christmas presents.

829
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:36,599
Speaker 2: Before they got their Christmas presents, Uh, seventy three people

830
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,719
ended up dying.

831
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: Is that better or worse?

832
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I think it's worse.

833
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: You get your Christmas gift than you die.

834
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, only seventy three died.

835
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: A little bit of a dopamine had.

836
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,039
Speaker 1: Only seventy three died, you know.

837
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: Oh, so you're saying it's the kids that didn't die.

838
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then guess what, there's seventy three

839
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,920
more gifts floating around.

840
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty nine of them were children of the seventy three.

841
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,800
Oh man, well most of them under ten?

842
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

843
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,159
Speaker 3: Did they shovel them into quickly?

844
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: Those little they didn't die in the fire. They died

845
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,480
in that because there was no fire. No, they.

846
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,679
Speaker 3: They got trampled on.

847
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: They all got trampled to death on the staircase.

848
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: Friday ass Walmart nineteen ninety nine, scream fire.

849
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,199
Speaker 2: This is alleged there. We'll get to that.

850
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,159
Speaker 1: Oh God, so we'll get to that.

851
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: It seemed, in fact, the only two people who knew

852
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
there wasn't a fire was the guy who yelled fire

853
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,320
and the woman who organized it, because she said, miss

854
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,559
uh anna, missus anna willucca uh, there's a lot of

855
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:44,159
finished people.

856
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:46,079
Speaker 1: We'll look a here this fucking bitch.

857
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

858
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: She said, I was certain there is no fire because

859
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,400
we had no candles of any kind. We did not

860
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,679
get candles because we were afraid the children would catch fire.

861
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: Incredibly flammable and so.

862
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: She like really, and like, what a great reason not

863
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,360
to for the children. And then that's mostly who died

864
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:05,280
is the children?

865
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, most it was mostly.

866
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:11,119
Speaker 1: Children, children under ton yikes.

867
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,559
Speaker 2: So with almost sixty children, most of them under ten dead,

868
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,800
This deeply divided community finally came together like nine to eleven. Yeah, no,

869
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,679
just kidding. Never let a terrible tragedy go to waste.

870
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,239
It was widely believed that the man who yelled fire

871
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,280
was part of the mining company, the Citizens Alliance I

872
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,440
think it was called. They were like kind of the

873
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,880
goons aligned with the mining company.

874
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 3: It makes sense though, right, So anybody that works at

875
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,800
the copper minds if they have less kids, that's less

876
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,199
of a reason for them to have to go home.

877
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, stay in the mines. Well, these guys weren't working

878
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,320
to mind, these are the striking guys. It was more

879
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,159
like fuck you.

880
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,199
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but again they're going to have less leverage.

881
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then but then their expenses.

882
00:39:57,559 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: Less mouths to feed.

883
00:39:58,519 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Well, when I just go to the mines, you have

884
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:00,440
live for.

885
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

886
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're wrong. So immediately the rumor spread

887
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,840
that the pro mining company people, so one of them

888
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:19,599
ran in and yelled fire. Uh. Several people claim they

889
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,840
saw the guy wearing a Citizens Alliance badge, including the

890
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,639
WFM president Charles Moyer.

891
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,639
Speaker 3: Because when I commit a crime, I'm gonna wear the

892
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,239
badge for the organization I represent. Yeah, That's what we'd

893
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,679
do in college all the time. We'd scream our fraternity's

894
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,079
name as we did hook that ship.

895
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,679
Speaker 2: You will always wear letters when you go do something

896
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,840
wildly illegal.

897
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,119
Speaker 3: Now, we would always scream rules.

898
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:48,079
Speaker 1: Theta Kai rules and like and then just runoff.

899
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, after we like egged a house or something.

900
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: So while the pro union people were like they fucking

901
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,800
did it, the UH anti union papers, the pro mining

902
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,039
company papers in the area just ran puff piece after

903
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,840
puff piece about how the mining company and the alliance

904
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360
members were raising a ton of money for the families

905
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,679
of the disaster and how they had showed up immediately

906
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,559
to help uh that there were several rumors from the

907
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,760
union that that after fire was yelled, another group of

908
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,840
pro of this is an alliance, the goons or whatever

909
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
held the door shut so no one could get out.

910
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,599
That has not been substantiated. That was just a sort

911
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,039
of vicious rumor that was circulating around.

912
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: Oh, do you think a lot of disasters are actually

913
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,599
caused by multi million dollar corporations? So then they could

914
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:35,800
get kind of a pr good pr.

915
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't Amazon create hurricanes? I know after Walmart qui

917
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,679
bono a hurricane Walmart.

918
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: And then they help out after the fact they get

919
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,960
that good pr.

920
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,119
Speaker 1: BP spill some oil show your soap taking off the ducks.

921
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's a Don Don causes oil spill.

922
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,519
Speaker 1: Don causes British Patrol.

923
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,119
Speaker 2: Don has a fleet of submarines torpedoing oil tankers just

924
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:05,760
for the pr Yeah.

925
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: And also so they purchased the product.

926
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: Look into it.

927
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: They do casting for the cutest ducks in the whole

928
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,159
wide world.

929
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those ducks weren't even in the thing.

930
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, those those ducks aren't even native to that well lane.

931
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,599
Speaker 2: No, they just find a duckling and dunk it in oil.

932
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, why was there a penguin in Louisiana?

933
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,639
Speaker 2: Look anything any it's good press.

934
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good press. You can you can stain anything

935
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,880
with the oil and clean it up with.

936
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,239
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we sent you. So. It turns out, though, that the

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goons the Citizens Alliance did raise twenty five thousand dollars

993
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to aid the families affected by the Italian Hall disaster.

994
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Yet to wipe their conscious conscience well.

995
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:42,679
Speaker 2: The head of the Union forbid anyone in the union

996
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,239
from taking this relief money.

997
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: You see it sounds like it okay.

998
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:49,559
Speaker 2: You won't take their dirty money. So the Citizens Alliance

999
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,199
Relief Committee decided to appeal to Moyer, the head of

1000
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,519
the Union, and be like, please let us let them

1001
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:57,360
take your money. We just want to explain the situation.

1002
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:02,800
And the sheriff was like, yeah, he can't come here

1003
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,880
to even talk to you because he might get lynched

1004
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:12,440
because people hate him so much. So Cruz eventually has Moyer.

1005
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,800
The sheriff eventually has Moyer arranges for a small committee

1006
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,760
meeting on December twenty sixth to like talk to these

1007
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,400
guys and be like, please let them take your money,

1008
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,679
take our money so they can like have something because

1009
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,480
you don't have any money. Like that's the thing too,

1010
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,559
the union didn't have any money to give them. And

1011
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,079
but he was just like, no, don't take their money.

1012
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,199
Speaker 1: Fucked up, yeah, which is shitty beggar.

1013
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,559
Speaker 2: And this guy's like the rich union head, like it

1014
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,760
doesn't affect him. Yeah, he's just like, no, we've got

1015
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,719
to stand on principle.

1016
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1017
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: And these people are like, I can't afford my child's funeral.

1018
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1019
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: So they have the meeting and these guys, the goons

1020
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,559
are just like, man, fuck this guy. They shoot Moyer

1021
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,920
in the back and beat him and then put him

1022
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,559
on a train while he's bleeding, and they're just like,

1023
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:01,199
he just run out of town and put him on

1024
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:05,559
a train bleeding. There's like, get the fuck out.

1025
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,079
Speaker 3: It's like, how could we have murdered him. He's already

1026
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,880
another town right en route elsewhere.

1027
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now Moyer went to Chicago, got medical treatment, he lived,

1028
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:24,559
he did live. Eventually, historians came to the conclusion that

1029
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,599
most likely it was a member of the Citizens Alliance

1030
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,599
who did this. However, his intention was obviously not. It

1031
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,280
was a goof like it was he was just trying

1032
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,360
to fuck up their party. Yeah right, Like he wasn't

1033
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,480
trying to kill eighty people. Yeah he was sixty kids.

1034
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:45,599
Speaker 1: He know not what he did.

1035
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was essentially some guy, possibly drunk, who's like,

1036
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,920
who they're having their fucking party? Man? Fuck these a

1037
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,880
kid even eat any more? Man? Fuck these dickheads.

1038
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,159
Speaker 1: And they're like at the bar. He's at the bar

1039
00:47:58,199 --> 00:47:59,960
across the street and it's cold and empty.

1040
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just just true with his boys. He's like, yeah,

1041
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:05,280
do you do you dare me to go fucking yell

1042
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,559
fire in there. It's like yeah, they're like yeah.

1043
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,119
Speaker 1: Dude, watching them have a nice time and a warm,

1044
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,000
happy watching all the merriment.

1045
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just getting pissed. He's like, the fucking kids don't

1046
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,960
deserve presents, and you know their parents are dead beats.

1047
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:26,039
Eighty bodies later, fifty nine little kids, fifty nine little Unfortunately,

1048
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,440
while doing research for this, I stumbled across the morc

1049
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:32,480
photos and they weren't great. I won't won't show them

1050
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,960
to you. But it was a lot of dead kids

1051
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,960
with lumpy faces.

1052
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: No like oh like like footprints in their flight.

1053
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: They were trampled to death.

1054
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 3: I wish it was a grown man that yelled fire

1055
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,840
and not several kids in a trench coat stacked on

1056
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,599
top of each other.

1057
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: You wish it was several kids in a trench coat.

1058
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,639
It could have been to I don't think. No, that

1059
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,000
is the type. That is the type of prank I

1060
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,400
would have pulled as a child and then accidentally.

1061
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Cause it death and actually like it was pretty bad.

1062
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I would have taken that to my

1063
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,679
my grave or use it for content like now one

1064
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,000
or the other statute limitations is easily up from anything

1065
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,679
I did as a child.

1066
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: There's a non zero chance you've killed a child?

1067
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:21,159
Speaker 2: What yeah, just playing b count Well No, then I'm good,

1068
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,599
and you're good. I think i'm good.

1069
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: Something you've written produced maybe somebody like choked from laughing.

1070
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were going to say something I

1071
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,239
wrote encouraged hazing and.

1072
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Abortion encourager.

1073
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: No, No, you could have like haze to get to death.

1074
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: Because inspired someone to No, you gave.

1075
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: Them the exact recipe. This is how you don't get caught.

1076
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, yeah, I should wear that a key

1077
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,480
to not getting caught killing your pledge, or like a

1078
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,559
list of how not to get caught killing your pledge.

1079
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:57,079
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, but if I did, this is

1080
00:49:57,079 --> 00:49:57,960
how I would do it.

1081
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, they believed who was the Steve letho Oh,

1082
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,239
shout out Steve Letto. He wrote a book about it,

1083
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,679
Death Store, The Truth behind Michigan's Largest Mass Murder, which

1084
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,760
seems a little.

1085
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:14,079
Speaker 1: It's a little sensationalist.

1086
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: It was a mass manslaughter. Manslaughter murder is not correct,

1087
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:22,480
not remotely. I don't think this was intentional in any way.

1088
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,599
Speaker 1: It was published six.

1089
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff I read was actually kind

1090
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,719
of annoying because it was like, I'm not anti union

1091
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,719
by any means, but it was like so like overly

1092
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,719
sympathetic to the Union, where I was like, it seems

1093
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,079
like you're kind of taking one side over the other

1094
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:43,199
here in terms of who you want to believe. Yeah,

1095
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,440
my guess is it was some guy who was like,

1096
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,400
fuck those guys, I'm going to ruin their party, went

1097
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000
over and ruined it way too good.

1098
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little too much.

1099
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:59,559
Speaker 2: Ruined it, run it r O O n E.

1100
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: D und ruined Wayne ruined it.

1101
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, they weren't. This guy was not trying to

1102
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,159
kill eighty people, but he definitely uh I did. Another

1103
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,440
theory is that it was just a random junk guy

1104
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,920
from a nearby saloon.

1105
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:19,079
Speaker 1: Just like a troublemaker, just like a guy.

1106
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: I like to think it was a guardian angel stop

1107
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,360
down the mines.

1108
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,639
Speaker 2: Uh No, Heaven needed more kids, have needed more angels. Yeah,

1109
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:29,679
it's it's it's almost end of the year. They have

1110
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,159
a quota.

1111
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, fuck, we've been slacking.

1112
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: We're a little short on angel we're short children. But yeah,

1113
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:41,320
suffice it to say, uh, easily the worst office Christmas

1114
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,760
party I've ever heard of.

1115
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,079
Speaker 3: First off, there's kids out of Christmas party.

1116
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, that sucks.

1117
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,119
Speaker 1: What you get, that's what you get get a babysitter.

1118
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1119
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1120
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,039
Speaker 3: If I ever see a child die in a bar, it's.

1121
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,559
Speaker 2: Like, well, don't bring you What was the kid doing

1122
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:56,000
in the bar?

1123
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1124
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, really, Dan, I don't blame the company.

1125
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: I was. Actually we were at a play date situation

1126
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,920
from my kids preschool. The other day at Easy Tiger

1127
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:12,239
on Southamar and they were just running around fucking around.

1128
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,760
Like the play area over there, it's like a bunch

1129
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,400
of picnic tables where you can eat and ship and

1130
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,000
they're a little play area, but they're just run around

1131
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,800
all over the place. And my son don't.

1132
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,119
Speaker 3: Don't bring your kids though a bakery to.

1133
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: A bakery that is also mostly a barker. But they

1134
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,840
just my kid and his friends just start eating food

1135
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,280
off of random plates that were all over the picnic

1136
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,639
table area. And then they also started drinking.

1137
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: Well, you don't your kids at all, so I didn't need.

1138
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,039
Speaker 2: To that day. If you need to buy, you need

1139
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:43,079
to buy an ounce of food.

1140
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:46,119
Speaker 3: Please help support the podcast. So Rob confetes children.

1141
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to keep taking them to Easy Tiger

1142
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,400
and let ef and just go, okay eat. But they

1143
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,519
started drinking out of I couldn't tell if it was

1144
00:52:56,599 --> 00:53:00,000
lemonade or Margarita's stop these And I turned to another

1145
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:03,280
parent and I was like, that's not booze, right, and

1146
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,639
they're like, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not booze. And

1147
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,519
we're like, all right, it's fine, finals keep talking.

1148
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in daycare, their immune systems are they're there

1149
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,519
it's good for him.

1150
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,079
Speaker 3: They're good to get a little whiskey too, or tequila.

1151
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,719
That'll help them sleep later.

1152
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: I'll make the it'll make the second half of the

1153
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,360
day a lot more pleasant.

1154
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is the end of the day. It's

1155
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,840
like six o'clock. So he went Rory went.

1156
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: Right sailing into bed.

1157
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 3: Do you put a little whiskey on Sammy's binky for

1158
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,320
his My.

1159
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: Dad told me he did that to me when I

1160
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,760
was teething. He'd put a little bourbon on my gums.

1161
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they did.

1162
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, well, Dad, that's why I'm

1163
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,360
an alcoholic.

1164
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: Probably good to know. Thanks.

1165
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a taste for it my entire life.

1166
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Apparently I associate pain with alcohol.

1167
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Anytime I feel pain, I have this earn happiness. He

1168
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,559
was so happy as a child. Yeah, like you were

1169
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,519
just laughed chasing.

1170
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: Because he was drunk. Because he was drunk the whole yeh,

1171
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,519
just drunk. That's why he doesn't remember his childhood.

1172
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys all memories of being wand right yeah.

1173
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: No, yeah, fuck fuck yeah, the memories they're not in plants.

1174
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:07,679
They're just I was hammered.

1175
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,119
Speaker 2: Just the whole time. But yeah, that is a that

1176
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,679
is all I got today in the worst office Christmas

1177
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,559
party in American history.

1178
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds pretty bad.

1179
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty children dead.

1180
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,039
Speaker 1: That's what you get for bringing your kids, yeah to

1181
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:23,599
the party.

1182
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: Speaking as two people without children.

1183
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say there was uh. I to go

1184
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,679
back to Philly Sports. There was that story. It was

1185
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,360
like fifteen years ago, I think, and someone was complaining

1186
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,920
that his child got puked on at a Phillies game.

1187
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,599
And all I could think was, you knew where you were.

1188
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you're doing. Don't bring them here.

1189
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: You knew what was going on. And by the way,

1190
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:47,519
like I've been to Marti Gron New Orleans, like onto

1191
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,960
cheap seats though by better seats, by better seats. Yeah, stopping.

1192
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,400
Are you in the three hundred? There's a certain other

1193
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:59,119
deck level of seats where you you're in the thunderdome

1194
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:00,400
and you need to understand.

1195
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,519
Speaker 3: You bring your kids, you got to be down on

1196
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:02,239
a lower level.

1197
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1198
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, where people have money, dignity.

1199
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,159
Speaker 3: Act respectfully and then if they, you know, commit a salt,

1200
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,199
you can sue their asses.

1201
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,559
Speaker 2: Right, what do you get? What are you getting out

1202
00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:13,400
of Jimbo? Nothing? Yeah?

1203
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: The fired plumber. It's been out of work for four years.

1204
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: He owes his wife so much alimony.

1205
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing the milk from that coun Yeah,

1206
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,039
it's a dry cow. What you guys learn today? Oh

1207
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:27,960
then don't take your kids to a Christmas.

1208
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 3: Party copper mining an' easy.

1209
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,039
Speaker 2: No. And they the union lost like this, you only

1210
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:38,960
hear it's no, the union loses a lot. Yeah, you

1211
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:42,159
tend to lose. You only kind of hear. I don't know.

1212
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:44,199
I don't want to call it like full like propaganda,

1213
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,000
but you only kind of hear like the union wins,

1214
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,320
but like the union loses.

1215
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: Often I hear nothing but bad propaganda against union. It's

1216
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:54,039
typically like, oh, local politics are all run through the

1217
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,000
union like a boss tweety type.

1218
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that is true in like the middle of

1219
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,480
the sense when union's got real powerful.

1220
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: It was definitely it's like how the mafia would rise

1221
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,119
to power.

1222
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeh yeah. Yeah.

1223
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: The firefighters in Austin their union were getting a little

1224
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,400
too like they were. They were all over the place

1225
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:13,960
with prop Q being like vote for prop Q, like for.

1226
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,039
Speaker 2: A pay raise. I don't even remember.

1227
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe firefighters get paid. No, here it's a

1228
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,800
volunteer position in Ridley in Delco.

1229
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a shitty place.

1230
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: No, it's uh, people care about their community.

1231
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: They can't afford to pay. No, yeah, they get paid here.

1232
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: They get like donations.

1233
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,079
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like go around with the fire helmet

1234
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:38,679
brand trips and you get like Delco ass thrown your

1235
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,199
way because you're a firefighter.

1236
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: But that just leads to alimony, child support.

1237
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: I know it costs money to be a firefighter and Delco.

1238
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: You're a fucking bomb. Yeah, you have a piece of

1239
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,000
shit shit, didn't have a fuck.

1240
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,159
Speaker 3: Getting off your forty eight hour shift. Yeah, seeing multiple

1241
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,880
debt bodies, it's like peeling people out of car.

1242
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not.

1243
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,079
Speaker 1: And the wife is a nurse and she makes more

1244
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:06,039
money and sees more dead bodies and is like less

1245
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:06,719
of a bitch about it.

1246
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: Oh, we've already talked about nurses and how I think

1247
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,519
they probably commit the most adultery.

1248
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. My dad cheated on my mom

1249
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,000
with so many nurses.

1250
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,559
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but that's but you gotta understand it from there.

1251
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:21,519
Speaker 1: And you've got married a couple of.

1252
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: From you gotta understand it from the nurses. POV like

1253
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:26,440
you're not working class, Like you make pretty good money,

1254
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,719
but at the same time, like the dating pool in

1255
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,559
your workplace, Like you imagine if you're just a rando

1256
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,599
making like fine money, but every man in your workplace

1257
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:38,639
is a millionaire. You have a couple options too.

1258
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,039
Speaker 3: You could hook up with the guy that restocks the

1259
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:49,079
vended machine, well that's a cafeteria, yeah, front desk security, the.

1260
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:51,159
Speaker 1: Little guy in the pharmacy with soft hands.

1261
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:53,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hook up with the guy that's like

1262
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:55,119
three hundred and fifty pounds sitting at the front desk,

1263
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,639
who's supposed to be in charge of keeping you safe

1264
00:57:57,679 --> 00:57:58,760
at the hospital.

1265
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,639
Speaker 1: The parking lot attendant endless or yeah, or a surgeon.

1266
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: I think that every hospital afraid, yeah they are the jocks.

1267
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:13,360
Every hospital afraid of a mass shooting should keep the

1268
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,840
hospice on the first floor.

1269
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: Has there been mass shootings the hospital they should they

1270
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,000
should do that.

1271
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Actually.

1272
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: I don't remember, like a famous mass shooting.

1273
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't know either. But the hospice should be the

1274
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,400
easiest access for a mass shooter.

1275
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,119
Speaker 1: Or we should have hospices that are separate. And it's like,

1276
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,239
if you feel the need to do a mass shooting.

1277
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, hospice for a retirement home and.

1278
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:38,559
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's like we group them by life insurance, yeah, bundle,

1279
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:41,119
and it's like it's like Disney World for mass shooters.

1280
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:43,239
So you can you can go and get that itch scratch.

1281
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we understand you need to get it out of

1282
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,199
your system. Here's a map of the hospices.

1283
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like pedophiles and like little Asian women that

1284
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,000
look young, you know, like it's like it's a safe

1285
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:55,559
way for them to scratch that itch.

1286
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: You know, we don't courage it, but if but if you're.

1287
00:58:58,199 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: Going to do it, we'd rather you do it over here.

1288
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: Is it better or.

1289
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: Worse that the kids died and not their parents?

1290
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worse when kids die.

1291
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's worse when the kid.

1292
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: But if the parents die, then they're just you have

1293
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,199
fifty nine orphans.

1294
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: And a great musical coming soon. Annie.

1295
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a rough and tumble group.

1296
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's newsies. It's Annie, a bunch of a

1297
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,559
group of orphans.

1298
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:22,719
Speaker 2: You're just gonna have fifty nine street kids. It's a

1299
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:25,280
steep staircase in there.

1300
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: Crime goes up because they're just pickpocketing everybody.

1301
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: And no, there'll be a group of nuns that open

1302
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,880
like a little orphanage, and then those kids go on

1303
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,519
to be like, you know, doctors and lawyers and engineers.

1304
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,599
Speaker 2: No, no podcasters, lobos or podcasters. Ain't no room to

1305
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:50,920
breathe in there. Did we get tramped? They're gonna get sent.

1306
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: To the mind Merry Christmas.

1307
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: No, it ain't like, oh great, you're an orphan. You're nighing.

1308
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Now it's time you pick up a pick axe. It's

1309
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,239
time you get in the minds. Yeah, yeah, the copper calls.

1310
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're nine. Then your siblings are seven and five,

1311
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,440
So get to fucking work.

1312
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: Somebody's gotta, you know, pay the bills.

1313
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worse when the kids step the company. It's

1314
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:11,159
worse when kids die.

1315
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: I think it's still worse.

1316
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: So they can always pop out now back then though

1317
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,960
they're popping out, you know, twelve thirteen kids each, You're

1318
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:19,760
not wrong.

1319
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,559
Speaker 1: Not so much. At this point. I think I think

1320
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,199
that was more of like that was a farming thing.

1321
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: I think we are now more connected to our children

1322
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,039
than we ever were before.

1323
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Working moms today spend more time with their kids than

1324
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,480
stay at home moms did.

1325
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:35,199
Speaker 3: Dads of our generation actually raise their kids, know how

1326
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:38,119
to change a diaper, actually are around their kids.

1327
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:40,119
Speaker 1: Even though they have a drinking problem. And we love

1328
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:40,760
you for that, Rob.

1329
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: I think it helps the fothering if anything.

1330
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does make you a little bit more, have

1331
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:46,679
a better sense of humor.

1332
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:49,239
Speaker 2: You understand how much angry I would I told you

1333
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,400
this before we got out of air. I didn't tell Dan.

1334
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,440
But do you understand how much angrier I would have

1335
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,039
been at that pizza place tonight when they're being a

1336
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,599
little fox if I had wasn't drinking a PIRONI.

1337
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be worse.

1338
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: It's actually better for their development and character if you

1339
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,679
just leave them alone, like until they're full ground adults. Yeah,

1340
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:07,679
as a father, you need to just not interact with

1341
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:10,800
them or praise them or yeah.

1342
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: Actually did catch a It's like an Instagram slide show,

1343
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,000
like why you shouldn't play with your kids so much?

1344
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:19,199
Speaker 1: I do agree. I'm like listen, like I'll hang out,

1345
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:20,920
but like, I don't want to play your made up game.

1346
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,079
Speaker 3: You're not your kid's friend.

1347
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree with that, but they're also like, go

1348
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:26,960
play it helps their independent play blah blah, And I

1349
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,159
was like, that's all I need to hear.

1350
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Yep, that's that's what we can do.

1351
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: Getting back on my phone.

1352
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: Thanks, doctor Spots.

1353
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,719
Speaker 3: You got to put a chip on your child's shoulder.

1354
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, needs to prove something.

1355
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, give them, give them a sense of humor, give

1356
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,360
him personality, yeah, give them life.

1357
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: Ultimately, you want him to kill you one day, all.

1358
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: Right, Dan, he needs a Usually it's just a plug pole,

1359
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,960
but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a boy named.

1360
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,079
Speaker 1: Suit situation, a mass shooting situation.

1361
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,119
Speaker 3: At my hospital, mass shooting at the hospital. We hunt

1362
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:55,800
like you interact with each other. You come across each other.

1363
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,039
Thirty years later at a bar, you get into a

1364
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:03,000
bit of a scuff. He bested you. Finally you're like

1365
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:03,960
sixty or seventy.

1366
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll be pushing seventy in thirty years.

1367
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,559
Speaker 3: But like you give them everything, You give them everything

1368
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,159
business and leave them stars and.

1369
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:16,599
Speaker 2: Then die bleeding on the ground of a bar, but.

1370
01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: With a smile on your face because your son best

1371
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:18,800
he did it.

1372
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: He did it.

1373
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: He's like you finally proved your man, saying that's my boy.

1374
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,480
You finally acknowledge him as your son.

1375
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,719
Speaker 2: You are my son, you are, But he doesn't want it.

1376
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:31,079
Speaker 3: At that point, the Star Wars pretty much taught us.

1377
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, who's today's hitler?

1378
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,679
Speaker 1: This alcoholic? If I just couldn't leave well enough alone,

1379
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,159
play darts and darts, playpool, get a hooker, do something else.

1380
01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:45,079
Speaker 3: Anyone that brought their child to a Christmas party also

1381
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:48,519
that or a bar, or anywhere it shouldn't.

1382
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Be honestly, keep them at home, give him at home.

1383
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: We'll just show up, get drunk and take their presents

1384
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,400
home to them. In fact, if anything, the party was

1385
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,119
demonstrating that your parents are not getting you these presents.

1386
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dad don't love you, because if they loved you,

1387
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,519
they'd work harder and give you something.

1388
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:04,679
Speaker 3: So Santa doesn't even going to your individual home.

1389
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Stana has beef with mommy and daddy.

1390
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you don't have a chimney or even a home,

1391
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:13,239
so you're gonna have to We have to do it

1392
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,719
buffet style here, kids, I'm sorry.

1393
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: Line up doesn't matter, what size, doesn't matter, what color?

1394
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: You a white elephant though, where you can steal the

1395
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,599
other kid's.

1396
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: Gift, I'm sure there's some trading happening.

1397
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,519
Speaker 2: There's some trades almost well, there would have been, but

1398
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,840
there wasn't because they died.

1399
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:30,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although if the gifts don't you know, if they

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don't get scooped up, the children that did survive, they

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get more gifts.

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, there's fifty nine extra gifts

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running around. How are we going to distribute equally? Time

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to Let's let's start a contest.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a tough child, it's a great

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quick it's a great place to be.

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Speaker 1: We're tall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have died or slow.

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Speaker 3: Right, if you were slow, if you were behind everybody

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else you survived.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if you were last, or if your

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first or last, you're fine. It's only it's all middle players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to think too. There's some ore irony

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in this where probably there was someone who wanted to die,

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like a miner who just couldn't take it anymore. He's

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like fire, good, let it consume me. And he's the

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one who lived.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, because he was like, no, let's let everybody

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who wants to live go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I can't. I don't want to be alive anymore.

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This has been the worst six months of my life. Yeah,

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it's like, what do you mean there's so fire, take me,

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take me.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like you your punishment is always living.

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Speaker 2: Longer, right, you will live. Well that's all I got

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for today.

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Speaker 1: Horrible story as usual, Rob, Yeah, thank you so much, appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It's the holiday season. Yeah, so this is Christmas, dude.

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Speaker 3: We could probably come up with a Christmas album just

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going through a lot of the songs. In the last

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week or so. They really mailed in the Beach Boys specifically.

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Oh yeah, it's the little saying news.

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Speaker 2: They just rewrote one of their songs.

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Speaker 3: But all the I did was the lyric is literally

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Christmas comes each time this year. Yeah, yeah it does.

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That's how calendars were yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they didn't try hard about what about all that?

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Speaker 1: Just the bird, the bird for it who just keeps

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gifting larger and larger numbers of birds for calling birds,

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And then like yeah, hens, and then there's like.

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Speaker 2: Those are good gifts back in the day though, when

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that's always written, that's a that's a solid gift. Now

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:26,719
it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 3: There's so many birds you don't want to they're all

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going to outlive you.

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the birds, the birds live forever all over you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll just die from avian flu and then they'll

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outlive you. Well that's all I got for today on

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01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,119
the worst Christmas party in the history. Yeah, we know.

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Speaker 3: Did you are terrible at closing episodes? Gabby? Where can

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the people find you?

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: At gab Monty everywhere? And uh, I'm not doing anything lately, so.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you're one of our sketches.

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01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find her on our Instagram.

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,039
Speaker 1: All I've been working on lately is stuff you guys

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have me too, you don't have I'm chilling. I've been chilling.

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Speaker 3: A tight five coming up I will.

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Speaker 1: Soon in the next year, next in the new year.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you got plenty of material.

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01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: I have so much material, I just don't have a

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lot of wherewithal a lot.

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01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:15,119
Speaker 3: A lot of will also check us out on Patreon,

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01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,920
Patreon dot com, Slash Software History two additional episodes Wednesday

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01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,280
and Friday on the five dollars tier, and then we

1466
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,280
have an upper tier where you get a sports show

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:28,599
every week and additional content. Yeah for the bloopers and

1468
01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:32,119
all the behind the scenes stuff for the sketches on

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that tier.

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Speaker 2: Coop sounds good. Check that out.

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Speaker 3: Make sure to follow us on YouTube and Instagram software history.

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It should be easy to find. And yeah, for Rob Gabby,

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I'm Dan and you just got a software

