WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.519 The Chile Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Windows dot com 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.280 and listeners liking. 3 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:12.759 Yeah now bestava adiou. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:13.839 Ah. 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:18.079 So it's the seventeenth day of April twenty twenty six, 6 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:20.879 allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, this 7 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.359 the o'celli Effect. 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I'm live with my 18 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.399 co hos B Pete and like I said, it's Friday night. 19 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:54.039 Now. 20 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:59.359 Before I go any further, you know, I offered a 21 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.119 thing out there that if you guys, nobody's been paid 22 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.599 for memberships at the site now since July, I lost 23 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.239 a lot of revenue. And July is my you know, 24 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.719 PayPal deactivation time. Matter of fact, the funny thing is 25 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.519 they did it to me on the fourth of July. 26 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.640 I believe. But anyways, you know, here here it is, 27 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.040 And I said, you know, nobody's paid for memberships over there. 28 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:22.840 And tell you what, I'll open the memberships to the 29 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:28.200 whole public if somebody kicks in fifty bucks. And you 30 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:32.879 know what, I got zero responses, zero retweets or reposts 31 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.439 or anything, and nobody stepped up to do it. 32 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:37.920 So anyway, that's out there. 33 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.519 Maybe I'll just cancel all the memberships and I don't know, 34 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.079 hide more stuff behind the paywall until somebody asked me about. 35 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.719 Paying for it again. I guess anyway, it is what 36 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.359 it is. It was what it was, and I'm still 37 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:49.760 doing that. 38 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.840 So I've got my cash app link out there and 39 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:57.319 missus O's PayPal at lunar Rosa candles. If you want 40 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.359 to contribute to well my well being, then that works, 41 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.319 continuation and all of that. Now, this week, I have 42 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.640 been thanking some people, and I do have a very 43 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:11.319 short list of individuals that did kick in at some 44 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.280 point recently. So I just want to note that, first 45 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:18.439 of all, my cost did that. Secondly, Ed from out 46 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.439 West did that, Danny from CALLI did that, and of 47 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:25.199 course let's see regular Joe tossed in a couple of 48 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.240 bucks as well. Now regular Joe was mia last night. 49 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.199 I was going to go live with him and bring 50 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.039 him back because he's having an interesting musical career right now, 51 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.039 and I wanted to talk to everybody about it and 52 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.360 tell you how well he's doing. He barely has time 53 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:41.120 to listen to the show and talks to me every 54 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.120 once in a while off air. But Joe's a great 55 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.479 guy and I want to check in with him and 56 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.039 see how it goes. His band is called White Trash, 57 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:52.599 I believe, and uh yeah, they're they're in Kentucky and 58 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:53.639 they're doing pretty good. 59 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:56.199 So I want to talk to. 60 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.560 Him, maybe play some tracks or play some audio some 61 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.919 kind on the show. Oh but I couldn't find him 62 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.479 last night, So it is what it is. Anyway, anybody 63 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.879 can call in three one nine five two seven five 64 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.479 zero one six. And now that I'm done with that 65 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:14.039 and we actually started on time, b Pete, how you doing. 66 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.759 I'm doing good, but I'm a little ticked off right now. 67 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.360 Just found out a show I'm going to try to 68 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.199 go see down your Way in August has been canceled. 69 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:29.000 M okay, well what kind of show? And uh what 70 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:30.879 We're you gonna go to Atlanta? Because you know, we 71 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.319 do have this performance center here in Macon. Were you 72 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:34.879 gonna come down to Macon or Atlanta? 73 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.319 No, it's a State Farm Arena where the Hawks play 74 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.639 in Atlanta. Oh okay, but it was the North American 75 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:49.680 part of uh Idol's tour from Korea. And they've played 76 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.960 Atlanta twice, I believe, and had a pretty good turnout. 77 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.400 But from what I'm seeing on Twitter, and I'm at 78 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:00.879 the State Farm Arita now and I can't get their 79 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:08.199 damn concerts up. Apparently everything has been canceled. Ooh and 80 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.520 State Fam Arena doesn't show anything past May nineteenth. This 81 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:14.520 is supposed to be in August. 82 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.120 Uh oh, well yeah, let me calendar. 83 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.240 When I lived in Jersey, we had the PNC Bank 84 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.720 Art Center. It was called at one point, but previously 85 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.839 to PNC Bank slap and its name on it, it 86 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.800 was just called the Garden State Arts Center or the 87 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.519 New Jersey Arts Center. 88 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.120 In Home Deel, New Jersey. 89 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.800 Home Del's a weird place in Jersey. It's like actually 90 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.519 a split town. It's like in four places on the map, 91 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.160 really really weird town. But anyway, part of it has 92 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.879 this arena type you know, art center outdoors pretty cool 93 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.120 and everything. Now most people bought their tickets from like, 94 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:56.959 you know, Ticketmaster or what was the other thing? There 95 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.399 was Ticketmaster and Ticketron. I don't know if ticket tron 96 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.519 is still exist, but Ticketmasters they. 97 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.079 Got bought out. But now it's it's uh Ticketmaster and 98 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:07.160 Live Nation. 99 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.480 Oh, Live Nation, right, I've heard that a lot. Live Nation. 100 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.759 But like they handle tickets for everything, ticket tron or 101 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.319 not ticket Tron ticket ticket Master excuse me, uh ticket 102 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:22.319 in the past again, but yeah, they handle tickets for everything. 103 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.319 But I used to be able to buy my tickets 104 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.240 from the art centers, uh, for you know, for shows 105 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:30.759 I wanted to go to. And most of the time, 106 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.600 I mean they had a lot of the major tours 107 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.199 and a lot of the uh like older artists that 108 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.720 could no longer fill a stadium, but they were like 109 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.360 just a step down from stadium, you know what I mean. 110 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:42.319 Uh? 111 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:45.399 And also they had osbest there every year. But I 112 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.199 could buy my tickets straight from the art center. Can 113 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.399 you buy them from or did they just flat out cancel? 114 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.079 Or can you buy tickets from the uh what did 115 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:55.120 you call it? The State Farm? 116 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.959 Good? Yeah, I can you can go there. It says 117 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.519 events and tickets and has got their stuff listed that's 118 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.879 coming up for the next two months. But when you 119 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.040 go to their calendar in August, they've got Mumford and 120 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.639 Sons listed on the fourth, but on the eighth they've 121 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.600 got nothing. And this has been announced. Oh crap, it's 122 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.279 been announced two months of all the dates. I mean, 123 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:25.879 they're gonna hit Texas, Atlanta, California, Philly, I. 124 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:27.600 Think, you know. 125 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.160 So they they had a like a ten stop North 126 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.839 American tour. This will be their third time they've come over, 127 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.800 and now all of a sudden everything is canceled. 128 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.279 So like a major city airport kind of tour where 129 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.600 you know, any place that has a travel hub. Uh, 130 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.279 they're gonna stop in you know, like you said, New York, Philly. Right, 131 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.040 they probably do Chicago, they would do La they might 132 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.560 do Las Vegas, they do Dallas, then they'd go and 133 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.879 swing around to Atlanta, that kind of thing. Maybe they circle, 134 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.160 you know, make a circle around the country. But either way, 135 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:06.040 I mean, it's definitely major travel hub tour. And all 136 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.279 they had was ten dates for this what is it 137 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.600 called it? I'm sorry, I'm not up on the. 138 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.160 Well, they're doing a world tour. They've already started. They 139 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.240 went to they went to Taiwan, they went to Bangkok. 140 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:21.639 They're going getting ready to go to Australia. I think 141 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:24.720 they're going to do one in Japan, and then they 142 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.600 they always break up. They do North American tour, then 143 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.360 they have some Sometimes they'll hit a couple of cities 144 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.199 like uh, well Mexico would be yeah. See, they had 145 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.519 one scheduled here. They were supposed to go to Hamilton, Ontario, Newark, 146 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:45.560 New Jersey, Philly, Atlanta, Orlando, San Antonio, Mexico City, Los Angeles, Oakland, 147 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.000 and finish in Seattle. Okay, all of that's been canceled. 148 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.319 Well that's a little more than the major hubs. Then 149 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:56.000 that's actually a full blown you know, many city tour. 150 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:57.439 It's not like going to every state. 151 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.439 But yeah, yeah, okay, good, yeah, it's I mean, and 152 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.879 what they've done from the first tour to the second tour, 153 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.199 you know, they had planned cities and the second tour, 154 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.920 this tour, they concentrated on the cities where they do 155 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:11.480 excellent on ticket sales. 156 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.920 They're guaranteed to fill in, you know, an arena. Okay, 157 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:19.480 so that's how. But they added Ontario this year. They've 158 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:24.839 been to Mexico City before with Music Bank, which is 159 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:32.240 a Korean entertainment like network, TV station blah blah blah. 160 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.279 But they will put on concerts all over the world. 161 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.120 They did one in Mexico City two years ago and 162 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.039 Idol played in that show as part of Music Bank, 163 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.679 and that's just to bring K pop artists to different 164 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:47.840 parts of the world that they don't normally would go 165 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.679 to on a regular tour. So, I mean they came 166 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.440 to Mexico City and they just cleaned house. You know, 167 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.559 they had an excellent show. So they added it to 168 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.039 the North American tour this year really and it would 169 00:08:58.039 --> 00:08:59.320 be successful. 170 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.559 So they all the Yeah, so they went to all 171 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.000 the major places where they knew they could sell out. 172 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:07.240 This time, they planned those out and they've added more. 173 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.759 But what the last time they were in Mexico City, 174 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.960 what you're saying is it was sort of like, you know, 175 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.399 an MTV tour when MTV cared about music, remember that 176 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:17.000 they used to have. I mean, they had the Warped tour, 177 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.240 but they had other tours that were like the MTV 178 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.480 tours that got artists to go on tour that didn't 179 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:28.320 necessarily have their own tour. Apparatus individually, but they would 180 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.919 go out in groups, you know, like I said, like 181 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.240 Warped and all that stuff when it was still big, 182 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.120 and then they added other attractions to it. But so 183 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.159 you're saying they did something like that, but this time 184 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.639 they were probably just coming through on their own because 185 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.039 on their own strength, right. 186 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.559 Yeah, I mean they've they've done They've had their last 187 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.279 two tours here were successful. I mean, you know they 188 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.159 were they sold tickets, they filled places, so a very 189 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.240 successful tour and it's been two years since they've been here. 190 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:04.600 I don't know, it just it's disappointing, especially since we 191 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.480 find out from people getting messages from who have bought 192 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:12.639 tickets that the show has been canceled and information for refunds, 193 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:19.679 but no announcement from Cube Entertainment or from idol okay, 194 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.840 and they both have I mean, they both have Twitter accounts. 195 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:23.519 You know. 196 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.360 The least they could do is put some word out 197 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:28.000 there when you cancel ten cities in North America. 198 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.480 Hmm, okay, and and you follow all their stuff, so 199 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:32.960 they haven't. 200 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:34.320 It's not like you missed. 201 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.519 Something or anything, right, Yeah, it would have come up 202 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:38.559 in the seed. 203 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.799 Are they one of the you know, just just got 204 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:43.639 of curiosity. 205 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.639 I mean, is it possible that they are being told 206 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.960 by some other entity they're being canceled and they haven't 207 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:50.799 gotten to it yet. 208 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:52.200 Is that a possibility or. 209 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:53.960 No. 210 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:57.440 They just showed the listings off of ticket I think 211 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.399 it's a off ticket Master, and at one time they 212 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.600 showed eight out of ten canceled, and then somebody came 213 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.919 back with an update they just get the only two 214 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.399 that were left was one of the was the Atlanta 215 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.080 show and another one. So thought, oh okay, well maybe 216 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:14.559 they're changing their schedule and at least they'll get Atlanta. 217 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.360 But no, now it's not even on the calendar at 218 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:18.200 State Farm Arena. 219 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.960 Hum, well, that's definitely weird. 220 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.240 I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean obviously my 221 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.559 information is kind of outdated on a lot of this 222 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.960 stuff because I haven't gone to shows in a long 223 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:32.519 long time. 224 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.720 Well, there was just people are asking questions. This has 225 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:40.279 got something to do with the lawsuit at Live Nation 226 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:48.720 and ticket Mester just got nailed with on galluting people 227 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:51.320 for tickets, extra fees and things like that. 228 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:52.720 Yeah. 229 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.039 Well, I was just thinking actually that you know, Kid 230 00:11:55.159 --> 00:12:00.000 Rock went to Trump at some point and was actually 231 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.519 beefing about this, and I don't know, you know, if 232 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.159 it's got anything to do with this lawsuit, but he 233 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.279 was asking in the first Trump administration for help, you know, 234 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.799 getting this addressed because he felt like, you know, his 235 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.039 fans are being ripped off and whatever else, you know, 236 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:17.159 and obviously a lot of people were going to you know, 237 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:18.639 Trump for favors and such. 238 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.039 Right, Yeah, this is. 239 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.600 A big one, it says here says the US Department 240 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.320 of Justice and forty States filed an anti trust lawsuit 241 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.960 against Live Nation Entertainment and Ticketmaster, alleging that they have 242 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.919 unlawfully monopolized the live event market, harming consumers and artists. 243 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.279 The lawsuit seeks to restore competition and improving the ticketing 244 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.080 experience for fans and performers. 245 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:41.120 Yeah. 246 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:42.720 I wrote about this just the other day. 247 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.360 Right, And that has been a major complaint for a while, 248 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.879 is that. Look, you know, Ticketmaster is charging a lot 249 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:52.679 of money, and the amount that's actually come back right 250 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:56.519 you know, to the artist is not you know, it 251 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.639 doesn't make a lot of sense. Like Ticketmasters is making 252 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:02.759 a fortune off of everybody's tickets. And they've had some 253 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.759 other unfair practice issues where you know, some people. I mean, 254 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.000 it used to be you had to go to a 255 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.720 machine and somebody would literally have to print out the 256 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.200 ticket on a machine, right, an official ticket master machine, 257 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:15.519 like a lottery machine almost. 258 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:17.519 And I don't know what. 259 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.440 It's like now with the digital age. I mean, things 260 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:24.159 are crazy. Things happen faster, you know. And there's there's 261 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.360 been a couple of different scandals with you know, bootleg 262 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.240 tickets being made and stuff like that. 263 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.960 But here's the lowdown on the court case. It says 264 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.200 the lawsuit was officially filed in May of twenty twenty 265 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.120 four US District Court for the Southern District of New York. 266 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.720 The trial began on March second, twenty twenty six, and 267 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.960 a settlement was reached shortly after on March ninth, twenty 268 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:49.399 twenty six. However, the lawsuit's core claims continue to be litigated. 269 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.399 Some of the details in the agreement is live. Nation 270 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:57.879 has agreed to several changes, including divesting exclusive booking of 271 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.679 agreements with amphitheaters, capping ticket service fees, and fifteen percent 272 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:08.559 allowing venues to distribute tickets to other primary ticketing marketplaces. Right, 273 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.559 and there's an eight year extension on the consent degree 274 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.200 with the DOJ, So they'll be watching them for eight years. 275 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.320 And that's about all of the details I've got so far. 276 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.480 Yeah, now see, there's your major problems though, is that 277 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:29.120 they were going above fifteen percent. They were gouging people, man, 278 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.200 I mean it was a little brutal. Like if you're 279 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.279 paying twenty percent of your ticket. I know it might 280 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.600 not sound like much to some people, but on one 281 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.840 hundred dollars ticket, you know, if off the top twenty 282 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.279 of that goes to Ticketmaster, plus you have to get 283 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.440 it through Ticketmaster or whatever, you know, it gives them 284 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:51.159 like an exclusivity. That's a little unfair because the venue themselves, 285 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.399 Like I told you before we went to air I 286 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:55.639 used to be able to buy stuff from the venue itself, 287 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.480 and I don't know if you know, if you could 288 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:01.399 even do that anymore. 289 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.240 They do well, they what they have done. 290 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.919 I've noticed this on some places the venue will contract 291 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:13.559 with Live Nation, okay, or the venue will contract with 292 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.639 ticketman Master, So even if you go to the arena 293 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:23.159 and buy them there, then you're still it's directing you 294 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:27.679 to a Ticketmaster section of their website and you're actually 295 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.480 transacting through Ticketmaster or Live nation one or the other. 296 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:34.039 Okay, well, you know that's fine and dandy. 297 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:37.440 But on the other hand, I read stories a few 298 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:43.159 years back about how they weren't allowing like if somebody 299 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.399 wanted to do a cheap show, Like let's just say, 300 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.240 you know, you're at a fairground and you wanted to 301 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.320 charge ten bucks a ticket, and you want to get 302 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.039 a massive audience in there, and you want to give 303 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:55.039 people a cheap show, and that's you know, that's like 304 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.559 nineteen ninety four club price for ten bucks. 305 00:15:57.559 --> 00:15:58.879 It's a door charge, right. 306 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.679 If you wanted to do that, Like, Ticketmaster wouldn't allow it, 307 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.120 Like they would not allow you to discount your ticket, 308 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.960 even if they are going to take their percentage, because 309 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.799 it then becomes like a big old pain in the 310 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.480 neck for them because they're like complaining about the credit 311 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.320 cards or whatever, because you know, everything's got to be 312 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.799 done digitally, so it's all credit and debit cards and 313 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:25.440 PayPal and whatnot. So you know, they were like, well, 314 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.240 we're not going to let you charge too little for 315 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.360 your shows. You know, like if you wanted to make 316 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:35.279 a general admission for twenty five bucks or whatever up 317 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.600 to a certain capacity, they wouldn't let you do it 318 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.200 because it was too small, you know, like Okay, in 319 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.879 Jersey again they would play and they would you know, 320 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.840 concerts would happen in Giants Stadium, so you had an 321 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.480 option where they're seating all around Giants Stadium. But then 322 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.720 they could like let you know, the field be open, 323 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.480 right obviously not during football season because it would probably 324 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.399 take it forever to repair it after you know, concert 325 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:05.799 goes destroyed the joint, right, But but like you couldn't. 326 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:09.960 It was like difficult to get them to agree to 327 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.200 let you sort of fill the football. 328 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:13.480 Field with people. 329 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:15.400 Yeah, you know what I mean. 330 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.119 So like, yeah, it was like either put in seating 331 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.759 so that we can assign it or otherwise you can't 332 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:22.039 do it. 333 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:22.359 I mean. 334 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.119 And oz festk got away with it because you know, 335 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.599 first of all, was Sharon Osborne and she was representing 336 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.920 you know, twenty artists going to play, right, so you 337 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.119 know it's an all day event. They had a little 338 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:35.240 more muscle behind them. 339 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:36.759 But if you were like an. 340 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.200 Individual and you had like an independent booking agent or whatever, 341 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:44.160 and you know you had your own people, apparently Ticketmaster 342 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.839 was like dictating way too many terms to people's events. 343 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.559 And don't forget. 344 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:51.920 They don't just do big events. I mean they sell 345 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:55.680 tickets to comedy shows and everything. I mean, I don't 346 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.880 know if they do movies. I think that's only what 347 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.720 is that fandango or does that still exist? Just bean diego, 348 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:02.880 I haven't want a ticket that way. 349 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:03.200 Either at all. 350 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:05.039 Oh oh, I haven't been to a movie. I have 351 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.279 not been to a movie theater since Passion of the 352 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:08.119 Christ was out. 353 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.720 Oh wow, okay, so even longer than me. I mean 354 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.279 it's been many years for me too. But I just 355 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:15.839 I would show up at a movie theater and buy 356 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:17.319 a ticket. And that's the other thing. 357 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:19.759 A lot of concert venues used to be able to. 358 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.279 Just show up right and they would have tickets at 359 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:23.119 the box office. 360 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.240 If it wasn't sold out. 361 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:27.119 Yeah, if it wasn't sold out, you can get them 362 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:27.559 at the door. 363 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:28.240 Yeah. 364 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.720 But you know, and sometimes listen, you were rolling the 365 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.400 dice because you know, maybe the place did sell out 366 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.680 even though they didn't announce on the radio or whatever, 367 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:38.880 that you know, the show you. 368 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:39.920 Wanted to see has sold out. 369 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.680 But sometimes right up close to showtime, you could actually 370 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:47.119 get a good deal because these guys would go listen. Yeah, 371 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.559 I'd rather sell a fifty dollars ticket for twenty bucks 372 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.240 than nothing, So they would say. 373 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:55.920 No discount tickets, Yeah, go ahead. Yeah that When ticket 374 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.799 tron was was still in business, there were shoes where 375 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.160 these people. When they first went with online ticket sales 376 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:09.319 in the late nineties early two thousands, people were complaining 377 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.119 that they would wait in a queue to get tickets 378 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.640 and the best tickets would be sold because they weren't 379 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.880 limiting the number of tickets, and scalpers would buy you 380 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.680 one hundred seats and if you wanted your ticket, you 381 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.319 went down to the venue the day of the concert 382 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.160 and you had to start dealing with scalpers. And now 383 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:35.359 they've got the resale markets on. If I'm not mistaken, 384 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:39.759 I think ticket Master it's one of them, has got 385 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:44.759 a resale market there. So they're making money off letting 386 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.160 people buy groups of tickets. Then they're getting another cut 387 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.160 when the person resells the ticket. 388 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.599 There was a court case a few years back. 389 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:58.279 I forget who was sue and who, but it was 390 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.759 over that resale that people were selling tickets. You know, 391 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:06.279 Taylor Swift goes on, tickets get sold out in a 392 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.160 matter of two minutes, you know online, right and then 393 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.960 the resale market starts. So you have people are that 394 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.640 would normally pay one hundred dollars for a ticket that 395 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.160 are now paying five thousand dollars for a ticket. Oh 396 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.079 and the company that was doing that was they were 397 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.480 getting it twice. They were getting their percentage off the 398 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.440 initial sale, then they were getting a higher percentage off 399 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:32.119 the resale, so they were promoting resale. So they had 400 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:35.240 a reason to sell somebody two hundred tickets to the Swatch. 401 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.960 Right, And it really became a problem because they doubled 402 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.680 up on their money at the source. Plus the consumer 403 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.119 would wind up going on like eBay or something, or 404 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.240 one of these other things like a stub hub or 405 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.920 there's a couple of different resale services where you know, hey, 406 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.519 just tell us what event you want to go to, 407 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.440 we might have tickets for you, right, And it doesn't 408 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:58.319 matter if it's a you know, a sporting event or 409 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.559 it's a concert or whatever. Some of those places are 410 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.000 designed for people to sell their own tickets, right, And 411 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:07.480 it's supposed to be an individual who's like, you know, listen, 412 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:09.440 I got two tickets to this, or I got five 413 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.720 tickets to this, and turns out I can't go right, 414 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.519 so you know, like you don't want to cut that 415 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.680 guy off from reselling them, but not at a like, 416 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.319 you know, five hundred times profit or whatever. You know, 417 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:25.640 one hundred dollar ticket, like you said, could be five 418 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.079 grand by the time you get it. 419 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.559 And that's why I heard these horror stories about. 420 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.160 Yeah, people paid sixteen hundred dollars to go to a concert, 421 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:36.119 and I'm like, yeah, I don't think there is a 422 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.599 concert I would pay sixteen hundred freaking dollars to go see. 423 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.799 But okay, you know, even if I had it to spend, 424 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:45.000 which I don't, which is why I'm you know, asking 425 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.160 you guys to contribute to my well being, I'm. 426 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.599 Not going to spend it on a concert ticket. I'll 427 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:48.960 tell you that. 428 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.279 Oh you know what else I forgot to mention is 429 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.119 that I am sending out little thank you gifts to 430 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:59.039 the handful of supporters who do kick in at this time. 431 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:01.519 I'm going to extend that in the next. 432 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:06.319 Week if anybody does bother to kick in, because I 433 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.519 appreciate it, and I want to send everybody a very simple, 434 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.279 customized present in the mail, Okay, And That's what I've 435 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.200 been doing. B Pete kind of has a hit about 436 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:19.759 it because he's got one on his way. But I 437 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:21.359 don't want him to talk about it because I want 438 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.200 you guys to be surprised by what it is I 439 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:28.400 send you. And so I'm sending little gifts even physically 440 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.440 in the mail and giving shout outs on the show 441 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.279 to everybody who's supporting me at this time, all the 442 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:38.160 way into next week. I'll keep that up up until 443 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.359 the Friday night live show. And that's the way it 444 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.799 is anyways. And you got to give me your address 445 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:46.160 so I can mail it to you. Even if I 446 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:48.400 had your address in the past, I probably don't have 447 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:53.759 it anymore because I don't store people's information purposely, So 448 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:57.519 you know, you'll have to make a donation and provide 449 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.160 me with the mailing address that's valid, and I will 450 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.240 mail something to you. And you know I've had troubles 451 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.960 in the past, like mailing stuff to Jimmy James, but 452 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:12.359 and and Jimmy, even though you didn't contribute recently, I 453 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.319 did send you a little something in the mail. Anyway, 454 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:17.960 it's on its way, so hopefully it gets there, because 455 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.720 I don't know you've missed out before. But anybody else 456 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.640 who wants something like that yeah, you got to make 457 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:27.240 a contribution like now between now and next next Friday, 458 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:31.839 which would be what the twenty fourth of April. Okay, 459 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.759 So anyway back to it though, it's a whole maze 460 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.720 of problems though, where there's all these middlemen getting involved 461 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.839 when you have an artist that you know, does their thing, They've. 462 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.200 Got their people, they've got their tour group. Whatever. It's 463 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.640 a show, it's a combined show. It's a festival. 464 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.359 I mean it's the you know, the Rolling Stones for 465 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.160 the eightieth time whatever, or it's a comedy festival, or 466 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.880 it's a Is there any other like music. 467 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.079 Festivals that are touring at this point? I don't even know. 468 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.839 No. And see that's just it. Idol had had scheduled 469 00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:08.880 to come here to They're still scheduled to play Lollapaloosa 470 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:12.400 in Chicago in July and then they were going to 471 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.160 kick off start there, go from Chicago up to Ontario 472 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.319 and start their tour and loop around the US all 473 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:23.160 the way back up to Washington State and go so nice. 474 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.119 Okay, well oh well yeah, I mean I have you know, 475 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.400 I know nothing about the music, but you know, be 476 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.799 pizza into K pop stuff, so he knows about it. 477 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.920 But you know, frankly, there just hasn't been too many 478 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.079 people touring that I wanted to see. I wanted to 479 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.839 see Kevin Smith's tour like a couple of years ago, 480 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:43.240 and there was like a VIP package and he was 481 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.480 going to like do the premiere of Clerks three and 482 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.440 uh and and do a live for you know, appearance 483 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:54.759 here in Atlanta. But by the time I even like 484 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.160 approached being able to, like I looked at the cost 485 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.720 of it. It was too much and I'd have to 486 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:01.359 travel well to Atlanta and everything else. 487 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.640 I didn't go. Somebody offered to buy me a ticket, 488 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.640 but never did it. So what was I gonna do? 489 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.920 You know, I would love to see And we have 490 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:13.440 a performing arts place here for like, you know, probably 491 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:18.440 like CE tier musicians in making because you know, they've 492 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.880 actually worked on this arena over here or whatever. It's 493 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:26.000 called some sort of performance center in town, which is interesting. 494 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:28.319 And if anything ever comes near me and goes to 495 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.880 that performance center, I'll be happy to check in on it. 496 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.319 But you know, anyway, Springsteen is touring. 497 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:39.559 He Springsteen, Bruce Springsteen is touring, and I've read a 498 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.359 couple of negative reviews about his show where you know, 499 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.400 for two and a half hours he wants to lecture 500 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.359 everybody on politics between every song, and people are just 501 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.319 getting tired of It's like, look, you know, we didn't 502 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.440 come here for this. We came here to see, you know, 503 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:57.880 see Bruce Springsteen perform. So that's kind of ruffled some feathers, 504 00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.839 especially at the prices that he's charging. 505 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.839 Shut up and play Glory Days, Your bastard pretty much right. 506 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.559 You know, really I can hear yeah, your bastard. 507 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.279 Uh yeah, Okay, let's listen. 508 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.200 These these guys, they get full of themselves with you know, 509 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:20.000 I don't even care what Springsteen's politics are, but dude, 510 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.880 you know, and nobody wants to hear it. 511 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:22.960 You know. 512 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.279 If you want to do that, you hold a political event, 513 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:27.480 not a concert, you know what I mean. Hold a 514 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.640 political event, see if people will buy tickets for that. 515 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.279 You go on a lecture tour exactly. 516 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:33.359 Yeah, you know it's true. 517 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.160 You don't do it in the middle of my concert, 518 00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:36.920 you know, because I would get up and walk out 519 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.559 and demand my money back as soon as I get 520 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:38.920 the door. 521 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:39.480 Yeah. 522 00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:42.079 But the thing is you'll never get your money back, 523 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.440 so you either Yeah, you're either gonna sit there and 524 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.079 take it, or you're gonna leave and miss out on 525 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.119 something you'll be paid for anyway. Now, is he affected 526 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:52.640 by this Ticketmaster issue? 527 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:53.480 Is he? 528 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:54.759 I hope so? 529 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:56.880 Okay, I don't know. 530 00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:57.720 I hope so. 531 00:26:58.119 --> 00:26:59.559 I hope you have to. I hope you have to 532 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.240 refund the bunch of money because they've been gouging people 533 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.480 on tickets for too damn long. 534 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.400 Yeah, but see out look, in this case, it's not 535 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.400 the artist's fault, though. It's there's a whole industry designed to, 536 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.599 you know, bend you over when it comes to concert tickets, 537 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:16.640 you know, and it's been there. 538 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.680 Pertective artissess the price. But that's just it though in 539 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.000 these nowadays, the way artists are, especially people like spring 540 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:28.119 Steen has been around forever and can charge a premium charge, 541 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.839 it's they set the price. In fact, Taylor Swift got 542 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.720 in a big argument with someone or maybe it was 543 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.759 Live Nation, about the pricing on her shows and she said, no, 544 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.920 I want to keep it down to here, she says, 545 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.799 because you know the resale market they're going to be 546 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.319 up to here, so I want to keep them as 547 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.880 low as possible. And they almost didn't come to an 548 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.920 agreement on her last tour. From what I understand, Yeah, 549 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.200 she was trying to keep the price down right. 550 00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.960 So when you say artists control the prices, I did 551 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:05.480 agree they don't because these organizations will turn around and 552 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.599 push against them that they want to see. That's what 553 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.880 Kid Rock was complaining about, is that if he wanted 554 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.599 to do a cheap tour, they wouldn't allow it. Like 555 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.200 it was like not possible to get it done. So, 556 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.200 you know, the artists try to set the price, you know, 557 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.119 they make a suggestion, but ultimately that industry screws it up. 558 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:26.839 Yeah, go ahead. 559 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:31.519 Well that also depends on who which record company they're 560 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.960 contracted to. A lot of times it's the record company 561 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.279 that won't allow him to do the cheap tour. 562 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.240 Okay, So I mean. 563 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.240 It's a mix of things. 564 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.599 Not everybody controls every aspect of it, but the artist 565 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.720 does have a lot of pull on what the price 566 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.000 is going to be. Now they're gonna set the artist 567 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.480 knows how much they've got to pull per ticket sale 568 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.319 to make the concert successful because they don't want to 569 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.240 lose money. But then you've got the record company that 570 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.079 throws their pre on there. You've got the ticket company 571 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.480 that throws their premium on there. You've got the venue 572 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.880 that throws their premium on there because they got to 573 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.319 clean up all this crap. When everybody's left, everybody has 574 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.319 to make a profit. And unfortunately, when you throw that 575 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.640 snowball together, it's so damn big sometimes that that's why 576 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:18.759 you're paying three four hundred dollars for a ticket. 577 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.680 Crazy, right, But the thing is that theoretically, if an 578 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.640 artist wanted to do like a break even kind of tour, 579 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.079 it doesn't seem like they're allowed to, you know what 580 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.720 I mean, because everybody by the time all that addition 581 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.400 has had and some of it's unfair. Look, everybody deserves 582 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.400 the you know, to be able to make some money 583 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.119 and be able to pay their expenses, for sure, anybody 584 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.839 who's involved. Although, to be honest with you, a lot 585 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:46.920 of times in the music industry that used to go 586 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.400 south on a lot of different people, and it just 587 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.839 seemed like only certain people were allowed to make money. 588 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:52.559 I got to tell you. 589 00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:58.160 But the funny thing is that even though if you 590 00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.200 wanted to, you couldn't even do break even on a tour, 591 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.200 or even if I wanted to lose money. Let's just 592 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.720 say I've gotten. I mean, Springsteen's got enough money if 593 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.799 he wanted to, he could do a lose money tour, 594 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.319 you know what I mean, like not a lot. I'm 595 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.640 not saying the guy should go broke, but I mean, 596 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.960 you know, if the guy lost a couple million dollars 597 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.480 over his tour, it wouldn't exactly make him homeless, That's 598 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.240 all I'm saying. And if he felt like doing that, 599 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.359 I don't think he's capable of it because of the 600 00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.400 way the system is like not even close, you know 601 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.279 what I mean. So the system is not good, and 602 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.519 certain people have gone and you know, made themselves fat 603 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:36.440 off of it, as opposed to just trying to be 604 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.599 you know, there's reasonable business and price gouging just sucks 605 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.720 because I mean, you know, it's sort of like what happens, 606 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.480 you know, after a natural disaster and somebody starts charging 607 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:49.880 one hundred dollars for a gallon of. 608 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.880 Water, you know what I mean. They do that. 609 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.680 Because they can, and I despise that. I've always despise it. 610 00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.880 It's like, let's just profit off of people because they're 611 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.599 in a position where you know, I'm the only one 612 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.759 who's got something they want or need. You know, I 613 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.079 don't know. I just always find that despicable. I mean, 614 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.359 you know, look, you can always just choose not to engage, 615 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.880 but you know, not a wide enough boycott ever occurs 616 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.200 to stop the price gougers. It seems like, you know 617 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.839 that that is the only It's the other thing that 618 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.759 I'm always against with the Libertarians. It's like it's unfair stuff. 619 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.680 They'll just take it to core. Yeah. Good. 620 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.200 It's like Gordon Gekko said, greed is good. 621 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.599 And that's what they operate off of a lot of 622 00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.119 these companies that get in it while they can get 623 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.880 it because they know there's going to come a day 624 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.039 where they can't get it, so they go get it now. 625 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.119 Oh yeah, oh by the way they. 626 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.920 Have it, they have the addicts have the attitude of 627 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.799 I got mine, you worry about getting yours. 628 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:50.880 Yep, exactly. 629 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:51.400 You know. 630 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.720 I meant to ask you actually because you're like my 631 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.799 fast food guy, right, you eat fast food more often 632 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.720 than anybody I know. So I got to ask you 633 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.799 something because I read articles leading up to the month 634 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:04.799 of April, and now we are, you know, more than 635 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:10.039 halfway through the month, and in April, right, the company 636 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.799 that you know, handles McDonald's and the Pepsi company. We're 637 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.160 both supposed to be lowering prices in April and offering 638 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.799 cheaper options and things like this at the fast food joints, right, 639 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.400 especially McDonald's. I have not checked the prices, and I 640 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:30.640 haven't asked. 641 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.119 That I've been to McDonald's. But now I don't have 642 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.640 been to McDonald's since I quit work, So it's been 643 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:37.079 a year. 644 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:37.880 Oh wow. 645 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.200 But even then it was so expensive that I quit 646 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.720 going to McDonald's. Bojangles has come down on some of 647 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.759 their prices. A lot of the local restaurants in the 648 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.559 past two years have gone up, but they're starting to 649 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.160 shave them back down now. So I don't know where 650 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.440 they found the relief from, because grocery serre is ling cheaper, 651 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.480 right So, but McDonald's, from one understand, have about price 652 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.000 themselves out of the damn market. Yeah, got that. That 653 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:12.440 was Pepsi. Pepsi owns KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, a 654 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:13.920 couple other restaurants. 655 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.359 Yeah. 656 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.960 Yeah, pizza Huts are closing. 657 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.599 No, I just know that though, Yeah, I just know that. 658 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.119 Almost at exactly the same time, the shareholders for McDonald's 659 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.200 and the shareholders for Pepsi, which by the way, isn't 660 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.519 just those fast food restaurants, but there's a whole line 661 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.839 of snack foods and everything else. They were all saying that, listen, 662 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.720 we have priced ourselves into a position where we've lost 663 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.119 a serious part of our customer base. We need to 664 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.000 figure out a way to bring it down, and we're 665 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.680 going to introduce new pricing options and cuts and prices 666 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:46.480 in April. 667 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:47.960 That is what they. 668 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.440 Said on their you know, stockholder meetings, which is not 669 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.599 something they like to tell their stockholders. Believe me, uh 670 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.480 you know, because look, McDonald's is the corporations still going 671 00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.480 to profit even if they cut their prices in half. 672 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.880 They're going to be all right, you know what I'm saying. 673 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.319 If they cut the bag of Dorito's price in half, 674 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.119 it'll still be okay for the for freedo l a 675 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.920 A lah whatever. You know what I'm saying, they'll be 676 00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.719 fine and the stockholders will be fine. Their profit margins 677 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.519 will come down, but they'll still profit. 678 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:18.960 But they don't do that. 679 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.199 Usually they push it all the way, you know, to 680 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.400 what they think is tolerance. 681 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.639 I'll tell you what they're good. 682 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.000 One of the worst things I've seen is damn Doritos. 683 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.360 Have you seen the cost of a bag of Dorito's 684 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.760 here lately? Yes, looking at seven damn dollars in places. 685 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:33.599 Yes, I know. 686 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.480 That's half a bag of air. 687 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.000 Yes, I know. 688 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.119 You know the little ninety nine cent bags that used 689 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:41.719 to be around, they're like three bucks. 690 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:44.400 Yeah, I can't eat. 691 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.599 My son loves Doritos and usually I, you know, grab 692 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.320 a few, we get the cool ranch, I get some, 693 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.960 he eats the rest. I gotta tell you, I'm not 694 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.639 buying them the Doritos. It's too damn expensive. Yeah, it's 695 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.920 like almost eight bucks for a freaking decent sized bag 696 00:34:58.960 --> 00:34:59.599 of Doritos. 697 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.280 No, you know, just still getting half a bag of hair. 698 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.599 Yes, well listen, even if it was a full bag, 699 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.320 screw your eight dollars. 700 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.719 Dude, I can't do it, you know what I'm saying. 701 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.119 No eight bucks. 702 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.800 It's eight bucks for a bag of chips. Seriously, I 703 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:19.960 mean they're not that good. 704 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.280 No, they're not. Well, I don't know them. 705 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.639 Those those what sweet and spicy in the purple bag? 706 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:29.719 Okay, you like. 707 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.840 See, I just like the cool ranch and and the 708 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:35.880 best thing is to take the cool ranch and dipped mints, 709 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.719 some freaking sour cream and onion dip. I love that, 710 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.519 But fact is, I don't love it that much. I 711 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.519 ain't paying eight bucks. I can't do it. 712 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:45.960 You know. 713 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.639 You know my my son likes my son likes Yeah, 714 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.199 my son likes Doctor Pepper too, but he ain't getting it. 715 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.000 He's getting doctor choice right now. That's literally the label 716 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.800 I'm under. It's like the one of those best choice briands. 717 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.440 He's getting doctor choice when I buy him a bottle 718 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.320 of soda. Now you know, I don't buy him much, 719 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.599 but when I do, I ain't paying Doctor Pepper prices 720 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.280 because they're like three four. 721 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:14.760 Dollars a bottle. I can't, you know, a two liter? 722 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.639 Forget it, a two liter. 723 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:18.239 Let's see. 724 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.039 I saw the other day they had them on sale. 725 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.480 It was three d for five bucks, three dollars General 726 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.480 Wick Leaders. 727 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.280 That's pretty good. Three for five that's real good. 728 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.599 But yeah, they do it. They do it about once 729 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.519 a month, okay, and PEPSI will do it, and then 730 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.880 Coke will do it, just like in the grocery stores. 731 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.039 So that's that the benefits steel I've seen so far. Okay, 732 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:42.599 I'll slap drinking a lot of soft thing, so a 733 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:43.320 long time ago. 734 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.159 Yeah, but Doctor Pepper falls under it. You know. Me, 735 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:47.440 I drink soda constantly. 736 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.440 Uh, and I'm always drinking some kind of cola usually, 737 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.599 but I'm on the you know, I'm on the stuff 738 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.079 that tastes almost like window cleaner now because I can't 739 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.480 afford pepsi or coke or or see even. 740 00:36:59.000 --> 00:36:59.880 It's impossible. 741 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.039 So you know, a while since I've seen an RC. 742 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.079 Yeah, no, we got him here in Georgia, no problem, but. 743 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.280 I can't afford him. I just can't. 744 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.719 So yeah, he's got Doctor Choice instead of Doctor Pepper. 745 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.119 And that's the fun thing about Doctor Pepper is that 746 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.800 they get distributed along with Pepsi or coke, depending on 747 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.199 where you are in the country. But they're supposed to 748 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:27.039 be an independent soda company Doctor Pepper, right, And then 749 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.320 of course RC is under the Canada. 750 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.199 Dry I think somebody bought them. Oh they did, Yeah, 751 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.360 somebody bought Doctor Pepper. Who was that? Because they started 752 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.679 in Texas. One of the fewest, the few things to 753 00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:46.000 come out of Texas that was worth it. Okay, let's see. Yeah, 754 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.239 I came out of Waco, Texas, home of the branch 755 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:53.039 Davidian Barbecue well, look. 756 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.480 The branch Davidians, Dodtor Pepper, Nolan Ryan. I call it 757 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:58.559 a tie. Okay, what can I say? 758 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:06.000 Uh, They're distributed by a whole bunch of people. The 759 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.519 manufacturer is Coorig, the people that owned Korig yeah, now 760 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.480 owned Doctor Pepper. But they're distributed, distributed. 761 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.719 Along with Pepsi or Coke, depending on where you are. 762 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.639 Yeah, well yeah, Coca Cola Company distributes them in the 763 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:26.400 United Kingdom, Ireland and Japan. Uh Crombacker uh arrai in Germany. 764 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:28.960 Let's see here. United States. 765 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.360 Yeah, Coke and Pepsi used to split it. I forget 766 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.199 what their dividing line was. Uh it was either like 767 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.480 the Rockies or it wasn't south and north. It was 768 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.000 like east west, and they had a division on it, 769 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.760 uh like for instance. And it was weird because up 770 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.840 in Jersey. I think it was Pepsi that No, maybe 771 00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:50.599 it was Coke that distributed. I think it was Coke 772 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.159 that distributed it in Jersey. 773 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.800 Let's see, Okay, In ninety five, Cadbury Schwepps bought Doctor 774 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.159 Pepper in seven up okay, and then in two thousand 775 00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:08.679 and eight Cadbury Schweps spun off Cadbury Schwep's American beverages 776 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.639 into an independent company called the Doctor Pepper Snapple Group Okay, 777 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:17.440 and renamed itself to Cadbury PLC. Kurk bought them in 778 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:22.119 twenty and eighteen. They bought Doctor Pepper Snapple Group, so 779 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.280 now it's Kurig Doctor Pepper, So that means they've got Cadbury, 780 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.679 which is the chocolate company. H Schwept spun them off, 781 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.519 so they own Snapple, which I still see in this. 782 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.320 You know, they were big at one time, but you 783 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.559 don't see them much advertised much anymore. So is Doctor 784 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.800 Pepper Snapple And let's see who else they've got. 785 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.119 Well, biggest mistake ever for Snapple is they started out 786 00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.559 as a New York, you know based thing pretty much, 787 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.960 and they were huge. Yeah, they actually had clear root 788 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.159 beer and Clear cola as well, along with the iced teas. 789 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.800 Then they started focusing on mainly the iced teas and 790 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:03.760 fruit drinks, and then it was pretty much iced tea 791 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.000 and lemonade. And around that time they were sold the 792 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:11.079 Quaker oats. I remember this because again it was like 793 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.679 a local company and they got huge. They were all 794 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.800 over the country all of a sudden, but there was 795 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:17.760 a point at which you could only get snapple really 796 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.920 in the northeast, you know. And some people say, oh, 797 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.280 Rush Limbaugh helped spread it around. Other people will tell 798 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.320 you that Howard Stern did it. But it was a 799 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:30.960 combination of their radio and TV presence. They really went 800 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.880 all in on ads and spread all over the country Snapple. 801 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:38.679 And it was much better when they made it. You know, 802 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.760 it was real fresh, brute tea. It was really you know, 803 00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.840 well made. They made it from actual cola nuts, and 804 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:46.920 they showed you you don't have to add the color 805 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.760 to the cola, you know, that caramel color that makes 806 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.760 it that you know, brownish almost black color that cola 807 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.119 always is, doesn't have to be that color. They made 808 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.360 it clear without adding the you know, the extra crap. 809 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:00.679 And that was the whole thing about them. They were 810 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.400 supposed to be all natural, right. 811 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:03.360 Uh. 812 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:03.599 Yeah. 813 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.559 And you remember the old seven up commercial when the 814 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.840 they had the uh was it Jamaican or the Caribbean actor. 815 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:11.639 Yeah, this had the cola nut. 816 00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.559 This is the cola nut. This is the uncola nut. 817 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:15.039 Yeah. 818 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.280 I remember that. That was great. 819 00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.360 I thought anyway, you know, yeah, that was the old commercial. 820 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.480 But but literally speaking, though, you don't have to have 821 00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.280 that color and colon. That's not necessary, you know, for 822 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.880 for your caffeinated cola drink. And they made it clear. 823 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.360 It looked like water in the bottle. It was that clear. 824 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.079 Uh. And they had it in the same glass bottle. 825 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:38.719 That was the other thing. 826 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.239 They had that distinctive glass bottle, you know, Snapple did. 827 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.960 But then you know, once Quaker bought it, you know, 828 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.440 things went into plastic bottles. I don't know how natural 829 00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.800 it is. And then they were you know, importing powder 830 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.079 to different places and like you know, combining it with 831 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.400 local water in different places in the country and this 832 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:55.760 and that. 833 00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:57.480 So I don't know what happened. 834 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.079 But but Snapple, I'm not surprised that sort of fell 835 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.480 off because they went away from their original design, which 836 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:06.199 made them different, you know what I mean. 837 00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:11.280 Yeah, big thing here is uh what Arizona brand tea? 838 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.239 That was real big and it's becoming very big in Europe. 839 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.480 For some reason, when I would go back and forth 840 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:20.559 to Switzerland, I always had to take a couple of 841 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:22.400 the large well you know, we used to call them 842 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.599 tall boys when it was beers. A couple of large 843 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.320 cans ye back from my girlfriend's daughter she would love 844 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.239 the stuff. See in Arizona, I've never been I've never 845 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.679 been a big fan of bottle teas though. I mean, 846 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.880 I like, you know, I like ice tea, but I 847 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.000 like it where it's brewed fresh, not something packaged in 848 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.239 a bottle sitting on a shelf. They just don't taste 849 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.320 right to me. Well, see, that's the thing and has 850 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:46.119 a pretty good tea. 851 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.920 Is that pure Leaf is way better than Lipton. You 852 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.280 tried that pure leaf tea? 853 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.960 Yeah, I like the pure Leaf, but to be honest, 854 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.480 I like the Lipton green tea better than the purely Well, 855 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:00.480 what made I'll. 856 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.400 Tell you a funny thing. What made the Arizona teas 857 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.079 so successful is that they had a giant You know, 858 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.480 when everybody else's sodas and teas and everything else at 859 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:13.079 twenty ounces went to you know, plastic bottles and everything 860 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.880 was like a buck fifty, they had a ninety nine 861 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.559 cent can. So those things sold quicker to anybody who 862 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.239 was budget conscious on the run. You know, I pay 863 00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.360 a buck for this, I pay a buck fifty or 864 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.519 almost two dollars for the other thing. And you know 865 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.719 the only trouble is I can't put the cat back 866 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.519 on the Arizona that used to be the way of 867 00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.079 it that Giant Can used to help it help them 868 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.079 with sales. It really did all the time. You know, 869 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:40.920 I don't remember how much was in it, but I'll 870 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.519 tell you what. Forget about it, because they phased them out. 871 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.960 Now you have small, much smaller cans. The shrink flation 872 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:52.000 has hit your Arizona can. Now they're you know, two bucks, 873 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.440 and yeah, they're like half the size they look like 874 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.440 to me, I mean probably they're not. They're probably seventy 875 00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.920 five percent of the size of the ninety nine cent 876 00:43:58.960 --> 00:43:59.360 can't what. 877 00:43:59.360 --> 00:43:59.880 It used to be. 878 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.159 But and they have exclusive deals, like if you go 879 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.599 to Circle K, you know, the Arizona can literally has 880 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.519 a Circle K price on it now where it has 881 00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.679 a Circle K logo on the Arizona can printed on it, 882 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:17.000 which is another weird thing. 883 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:17.920 They're co branding. 884 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.559 So depending on where you are, your Arizona can could 885 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.920 cost you different prices. But they had a universal thing 886 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.800 across the board. No matter where you bought it, it was 887 00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.280 supposed to be ninety nine cents, you know, unless you 888 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.440 went to like a hotel. Hotels would still charge you 889 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:33.880 five bucks for a can or whatever. 890 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:36.159 You know that. 891 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.320 You know they remember that the pepsi can in Dallas, 892 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.400 you know, five bucks for a pepsi, you know, twelve 893 00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.559 ounce can guys a pepsi five bucks? 894 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.880 Yikes. But anyway I went. 895 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.519 I kept going over to that when we went, I 896 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.199 kept going over to that taco place and buying the 897 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.679 you know, glass bottles of coke because it just tasted better. 898 00:44:58.199 --> 00:44:59.920 And I was going to pay five bucks either way. 899 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.719 To screw it. I'd rather have the glass bottle of coke. 900 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.559 But yeah, now they used to I saw something in 901 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.079 the story the other day, and I used to buy 902 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:09.880 it when it was cheap. 903 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:10.440 You can get them. 904 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.079 There were four bottles in a pack and it was 905 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.920 called Clearly Canadian Water. Basically it was carbonated water with 906 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.599 a flavoring. I love the stuff, but it's up to 907 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.519 almost three dollars a bottle in places, and it's like 908 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.800 you've got to be kidneyed. This is nothing more than 909 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.360 Seltzer water. Yeah, why in the hell are you charging 910 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.519 so much? I can get a twelve pack of cans 911 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.800 of mandarin flavored Seltzer water at food line. 912 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:34.760 Why am I gonna buy Clearly. 913 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.079 Canadian Although it's good, it ain't that good? Yes, and 914 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.039 advising themselves out of the damn market. 915 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.800 See that's my point about that eight dollars bag of Doritos. 916 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.559 You know they're good, Ain't that damn good? And the 917 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.480 other thing is again Frankie, he loves those, you know, 918 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.639 like flavored water Seltzers. 919 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.159 I buy them the store brand ones. 920 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.199 I give up, you know, because they're less than a 921 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.360 buck still, you know what I mean? But like you said, 922 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.079 any of the name brand like you know, flavored water, 923 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.000 Seltzer water, whatever, they're all freaking three dollars a bottle, 924 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.880 So you know which which one am I gonna do? 925 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.760 I can buy three of these for him and have change, 926 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:14.039 or I can buy one Nope, you know, here we 927 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:18.719 go Dorito's Nope, Okay, I just can't do it. I mean, 928 00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:20.840 it's like the price of a candy bars is out 929 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.440 of control too, any of these snacks. But the thing 930 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.159 I wanted to ask you about I thought you might know, 931 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.760 is whether there have been price cuts in the month 932 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.599 of April, because that's what was supposed to happen. By 933 00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:35.559 the way, how is your frozen pizza? 934 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:35.960 Uh? 935 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:38.480 You know, algorithm doing? 936 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.000 It's still it's you can get two for ten bucks. 937 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.039 Now used to you can get three for ten bucks. 938 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:51.440 So it's you know, reduction in products for the money. 939 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:52.000 Okay. 940 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.159 The one that really the one I look at now, 941 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.159 Chichen brand is a cheat, you know. It's like the 942 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.320 old generics of stuff and food line carries. 943 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.719 A lot of their products like paper. 944 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.960 Towels and Aapkins ketchup, things like that. Okay, it used 945 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:08.880 to be ninety nine percent for a bottle of ketchup. 946 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.320 It's gone up. It went up originally to a buck 947 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.880 twenty nine after COVID and all the prices jumped. Now 948 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.880 it's gone to a buck thirty nine. Their bread used 949 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.400 to be ninety nine per cent a loaf. Now it's 950 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.719 like a buck twenty nine for white and what like 951 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.880 a buck eighty for wheat bread. So those items have 952 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.480 not come down now the grocery stores around here, I 953 00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:35.320 have seen a few things come down, but not much. 954 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.159 It's just a few items, you know, I can count 955 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.280 them on one hand. Other than that, nothing has come down. 956 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.280 Well nothing. 957 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.079 What you're describing is a thirty to forty increase right 958 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.119 in price, yeah, regardless of size, and then in some 959 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.880 cases they'll shrink. The size is the bottle of ketchup 960 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:55.679 or any of these other or the bread smaller, because 961 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.760 I'll tell you something, they're making smaller loads of bread 962 00:47:58.800 --> 00:47:59.480 here say a. 963 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.719 Great, Well, no there. 964 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.239 I have found out too that when you buy sliced cheese, 965 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.199 like I like cheese toast in the morning, so I'll 966 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.280 get a couple packs of cheddar sliced cheese and a 967 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:12.000 loaf of bread. 968 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.400 Well, the bread has shrunk. It's not as fluffed up. 969 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.159 As it used to be, so now you have to 970 00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.719 fold your cheese or it hangs over the sides and 971 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.159 drips all down in your toaster. So I've noticed things 972 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.920 like that. It's still the same weight on the bag, 973 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.599 you know, a pound or whatever the normal is, but 974 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:38.239 it's smaller in height. There's always you know, when they're 975 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.199 making a loaf smaller. There's always twenty two slices of 976 00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:45.599 bread in a normal loaf of bread, and that is 977 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:51.320 counting the heel Slices' always twenty two. So that's he'll 978 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.440 say the same. But the slices aren't as big as 979 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.599 they were, so they can't. I don't understand how it's 980 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.000 the same weight unless they're just not pumping as much 981 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:58.760 air into it. 982 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:03.280 Yeah, but that's weird because what are they saving if 983 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.920 you know, if pumping. 984 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.159 Air should be the thing they're doing actually. 985 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.480 To uh write like like the bag of chips, well, 986 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:10.559 half of the bag is air. 987 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.199 Yeah, so it doesn't change anything for them, you know. 988 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.159 Yeah, the air is cheap unless it's unless it's costing 989 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.320 them to mix it in there in the dough before 990 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:22.039 it goes through the the heat racks. So I don't 991 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.440 know what's going on, but ketchup, it's the same size. 992 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.119 It's thirty percent more. The pizzas are the same size. 993 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.440 You know, you just had a loss of thirty three 994 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.719 percent in your amount of products. So normal pizza prices 995 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.159 and usually it used to be Tombstone was on sale 996 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:43.039 and then Red Bearon would go on sale. Well, now 997 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.159 you're lucky to see two Red Barons on sale for 998 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.079 ten bucks. Normally they've gone up to like six sixty 999 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.599 five apiece, and they'll give you two for ten And 1000 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.079 the best price is at the Dollar Store no longer. 1001 00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:56.639 Food Line. 1002 00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:58.960 Food Line used to be the champion for frozen pizza 1003 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.559 more right. 1004 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:04.480 As a matter of fact, the company that owns Dollar 1005 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.840 General I think talked about price cuts as well because 1006 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.719 there was a whole article on this, Like I said, 1007 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:11.679 with the McDonald's and Pepsi and you know, Dorito's and 1008 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.880 all this stuff going, Yeah, we've accidentally caused people to 1009 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.239 stop buying our products. 1010 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.719 Uh so we got to bro people. 1011 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.280 Bring junk about Yeah, yeah, people talk junk about dollars throwers. 1012 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.039 But I'll go ahead and tell you for most of 1013 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.920 the food items that I'd buy that they carry a 1014 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.159 Dollar General, I can get them cheaper than even at 1015 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.079 Food Line or Pigley Wiggley. 1016 00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:33.760 Yeah. 1017 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.599 So, but there's a few things that the price is 1018 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.239 the same no matter where you go. Like uh, I 1019 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:43.239 like Stofer's lasagna, and they have a meat Lovers, which 1020 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.920 is a bigger individual lasagna. They're always five seventy five, 1021 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.000 no matter where the hell you go. Ok. But a 1022 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:54.760 lot of this other package stuff, burritos, these mega bowl 1023 00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:01.639 dinners of various recipes, you can always find them cheaper 1024 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.039 at Dollar General. So I split my shop and now 1025 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.079 I get what I know. I can get a Dollar General. 1026 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.559 My coffee is cheaper at Dollar General, so I'll go 1027 00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.920 there to get stuff and then I'll split my shopping 1028 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:13.119 between there and Food Line. 1029 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.360 Well, listen, we're almost an hour in and it looks 1030 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.320 like we do have a call, So I think I 1031 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:20.280 want to take a call and then maybe we'll take 1032 00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.880 a break after that. But you guys can join in 1033 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.159 if you're hearing me live. 1034 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.840 Just let me see exactly what time it is. 1035 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.599 It's about eight point fifty two pm Eastern, just so 1036 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.800 you know, uh, and so that that's out there and 1037 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.719 that's what time it is on the seventeenth day of 1038 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.280 April twenty twenty six. We're live, so you could call 1039 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.480 in three one nine, five two seven five zero one 1040 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.320 six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 1041 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.800 If you're listening to this, you can become part of it. 1042 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:55.719 And it looks like we got Jimmy James on the line. 1043 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:57.920 I brought him up earlier. I don't know if you 1044 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.119 heard me mention them, but Jimmy, how you doing. 1045 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:05.360 I'm doing good here? 1046 00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.239 So did you hear me mention you earlier? 1047 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:11.159 Yes? 1048 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:12.679 Okay? Cool? 1049 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.880 Now, I just want to make sure you knew that 1050 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.639 that there is something on its way to you in 1051 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:17.079 the mail. 1052 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:21.840 Now. I don't know what happens to your mail. I'm 1053 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:22.679 still very. 1054 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.599 Pissed off that I sent you one of those red 1055 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.039 seal two dollar bills and a couple other things in 1056 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:31.239 a package. You never saw that that package entirely. 1057 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:32.079 It just vanished. 1058 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.559 They sent one package back to me once. But I'm saying, 1059 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.519 you like three things that didn't make it to you. 1060 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:43.119 So I'm hoping this little package gets to you this time. 1061 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:49.159 Okay, yeah too. 1062 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.480 You know, I mean, it's not a major thing, and 1063 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.159 I won't be as upset as I was at the 1064 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.000 two dollar bill because those are harder to come by 1065 00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.239 for me, you know, than they used to be. But 1066 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.840 but the thing is, I mean, I did send you 1067 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.880 something I thought was cool because I'm sending out little 1068 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.599 gifts to anybody who makes a donation to Olly dot 1069 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:11.400 com right now. And uh, I know that you're owed 1070 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:13.920 a couple of packages for stuff being lost in the 1071 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.880 mail and you're always chipping in, so I included you 1072 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.960 on the list along with you know, the couple of 1073 00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.880 people that chipped in. So I just wanted to let 1074 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.159 you know that and be on the lookout for it 1075 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.239 and let me know in an email or something when 1076 00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.039 it shows up. Uh So, what's on your mind this week? 1077 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.119 Jimmy? 1078 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.159 Oh well, I got a cracks. 1079 00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:41.760 Okay, you got a couple of tracks. You want to 1080 00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.320 go on? Go ahead? 1081 00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.039 No, I need you. I need to cut a man. 1082 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:59.360 Do you understand what he's saying? BP, he's breaking up, right, 1083 00:53:59.400 --> 00:53:59.880 breaking up? 1084 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.880 Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't understand you. 1085 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.199 You're hearing hearing an echo? 1086 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.159 You're hearing an echo? All right? I'm not sure why 1087 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:16.400 we're not echoing here? Uhh, I don't know. Maybe I 1088 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:19.039 can turn this down a little bit. Maybe that'll help. 1089 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.719 I don't know. Go ahead, Hopefully you're not getting an. 1090 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.760 Echo now with any any better? 1091 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.199 Well, I'm not hearing an echo at the moment. 1092 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:32.159 Nope. 1093 00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.719 Now I do want to understand me. 1094 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.000 Yeah, whenever I talk, there's an echo. That's what the 1095 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:37.480 problem is. Sorry, i'll shut up. 1096 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:38.199 Go ahead. 1097 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.280 Oh yeah, I was just saying I need to get 1098 00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.400 you to cut a couple of tracks for me next week. Chuck. 1099 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.159 Oh, you mean on the short attention span DJ theater 1100 00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.119 thing you want? You want to make a request? 1101 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:03.519 No, I need to make a couple of tracks. 1102 00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:08.079 Oh okay, what do you need done? 1103 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.679 Well, just a couple of audio tracks? 1104 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.000 Okay, you do you what what do you want recorded? Exactly? 1105 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:31.239 Well? It's uh sort of a show. 1106 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.199 All right? 1107 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.679 Well, do you have links to stuff you want recorded? 1108 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.199 Or do you want to record your voice? 1109 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:41.440 What? What are we talking about here? 1110 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:45.280 Yeah? 1111 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:46.480 It would be blue. 1112 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:59.960 Both. Yes, okay, do you have no problem? 1113 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:01.199 Do you have a way to record? 1114 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:03.960 Sorry, do you have a way to record? 1115 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.320 Do you have a way to record your own voice? 1116 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:09.880 Yes? 1117 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.960 I ever the record the Sampson recorder built in. 1118 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:18.800 Okay, so you could theoretically you could record some MP 1119 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:24.239 three's and send me some clips and I could put 1120 00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.199 them together for you. 1121 00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:26.280 Is that what you want me to do? 1122 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:33.119 Yeah? Okay, sure they do pretty much. 1123 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.559 Yeah, email it to me and let me know what 1124 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.880 it is you're you're doing, and uh, and I'll see 1125 00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:41.079 if I can assemble it for you. 1126 00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:49.480 Okay, Yeah we could then of course, you know, put 1127 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:50.559 in a contribution. 1128 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.679 Well sure, yeah, but either way, just send me the 1129 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:56.320 stuff and let's see if I can you know, if 1130 00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.440 I can figure it out, you know, I mean sometimes 1131 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.719 people send me directions and I don't understand them, so 1132 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.159 I might need clarification or something. But uh, but you know, 1133 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:05.920 just work with me and we'll get it done. 1134 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:06.760 How does that sound? 1135 00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:11.039 Yeah, that sounds good. 1136 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:14.199 Okay, great, No, be pe be scared. 1137 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.000 He scared me earlier. H B. Pete Jane's supposed to 1138 00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.239 put that cheese in with the bread in that toaster. 1139 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:26.960 You are a very. 1140 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.800 It's it's a it's a toast. 1141 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.760 Smoky, smokey the bear man. 1142 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:34.000 Go ahead. 1143 00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:35.760 It was designed for cheese toast. 1144 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:37.800 It's a toaster oven. 1145 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:42.800 Be uh a jimmy, not a regular toaster. 1146 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:48.239 Oh oh, I misunderstand. 1147 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.719 Cooked pork chops. I have cooked pork chops in a 1148 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:51.400 regular toaster. 1149 00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:53.599 How the hell do you cook a pork chop in 1150 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.280 a regular toast? Are you serious? 1151 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.159 I would think that would cause a grease fire instantaneously. 1152 00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:00.000 No, no, no, no, no. 1153 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:01.960 You take the pan out of the bottom and you 1154 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.440 set it in a broiling pan so the grease drips through. 1155 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.679 Oh oh, okay again with the Okay, it's a toaster oven, 1156 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.920 not a toaster, all right, because see a toaster. 1157 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:12.679 No if this is a regular No, it's a regular toaster. 1158 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.440 You reach underneath, okay, and you turn the little knob 1159 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.599 and you take the bottom tray out of it. Okay, 1160 00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:21.239 and then you set it in a roasting pan so 1161 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.559 that the toaster is sitting up off of the of 1162 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.039 the bottom of the pan, and the grease just drips through. 1163 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.039 You know, you do what you got to do with 1164 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.840 what you have. It was either that or a steam iron. 1165 00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.360 I figured the toaster would. 1166 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:34.760 Do a letter job. 1167 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.920 Now, I've cooked stuff with an iron before, so I understand. 1168 00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.840 But okay, I don't know man, that that toaster operation 1169 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:43.119 still sounds dangerous. 1170 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.039 With the coils on the pork chop, how does it 1171 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:45.519 turn out? 1172 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:46.480 No? 1173 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.000 Because well, no, the grease is dripping down off the 1174 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.559 pork chop, it's not spattering anywhere, and the red elements 1175 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.079 are back far enough behind the cage, okay that they 1176 00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:57.960 don't come in contact with the grease, and the grip 1177 00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.280 grease strip straight through into the boiler van. 1178 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:01.800 Okay. 1179 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.719 You know I thought this one out before I did it. 1180 00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.599 You know, I wasn't standing there the whole time with 1181 00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:07.719 a fire extinguisher waiting from a pork chop to go 1182 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:08.880 up in flames. 1183 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:09.519 Yeah. 1184 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.599 Well, listen, I'm not trying to blame you, but I've 1185 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:14.280 seen people do dumber things than that. 1186 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:18.239 You know, it was well planned out, Okay, cool. 1187 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.960 But I have seen people that I thought previously were 1188 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:22.719 smart do much dumber. 1189 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:23.519 Things than that. 1190 00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:27.760 So I was like, wait a minute, Okay, well see 1191 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:29.440 now b Peza not causing fires. 1192 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.199 No smoky the bear, no need JJ. 1193 00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:38.440 Okay, See it would be a big mess trying to 1194 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:39.719 do a pork chob on an iron. 1195 00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:42.920 Oh yeah, definitely he would make a mess. You know, 1196 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:43.920 you got to have you. 1197 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.559 Paid to make a tray out of aluminum foil and 1198 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.440 set that on the heat plate of the iron and 1199 00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:51.519 then put the pork chop in that and hope you 1200 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.679 don't have so much grease that it drips out anywhere. 1201 00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:56.719 That would be a mess. 1202 00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.719 I'll tell you there were places where I lived that, 1203 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.880 you know, those old radiators, they would get so hot 1204 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.239 that you could set up a tray on those and 1205 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.159 you could cook on them anytime you wanted, if the 1206 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:13.159 heat was on, because they were like red freaking hot. 1207 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:16.199 Like I don't know how we didn't burn down more 1208 01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:16.840 houses with him. 1209 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.039 Good we had that. 1210 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.000 We had a house that we bought had the old 1211 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.039 radiators in it, and luckily there was a window right 1212 01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.280 above it. So when the heater, when a radiator was 1213 01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:28.559 kicking hard, you always had to crack the window just 1214 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.239 to get the damn heat out of it because you 1215 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:30.639 were worried. 1216 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.119 You know that you could put your hand on the. 1217 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.079 Wall and feel how hot it was. It was you know, 1218 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.840 old heavy lab plaster, so you weren't worried about it 1219 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.519 catching on fire, but you always had to vent the 1220 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.840 window above the radiator. They would get so bad, all right. 1221 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.639 One time, when I was doing construction work on the 1222 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:49.800 Jersey Shore, I took apart one of those you know 1223 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.639 walls with the with the lathe and the plaster on 1224 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:56.880 top of the lathe and all that, and one. 1225 01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:57.440 Of those places. 1226 01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.400 I can't remember a radiator without a window hear it, 1227 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.119 to be honest, But I took apart one of those 1228 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.000 like next to a radiator that apparently somebody wasn't real 1229 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:11.199 careful about installing, and I found what I would consider 1230 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:12.519 to be a cooked mouse. 1231 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:15.159 Now I don't know if the mouse was cooked we. 1232 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:18.159 Live, or if it died and got cooked, but it 1233 01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:20.840 definitely got cooked at some point long before I opened 1234 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:21.440 up that wall. 1235 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.880 Uh that's pretty interesting. 1236 01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.920 And I was just like man like you, but you 1237 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.679 could tell the whole section of that wall that was. 1238 01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:35.519 Near the radiator had been like baked because of that rate. 1239 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:38.639 Oh my god. 1240 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:39.320 Laugh. 1241 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:41.679 Yeah, my mom. 1242 01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:44.599 She wanted to redo two bedrooms and she wanted to 1243 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.800 put a border up at the top, you know, below 1244 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:49.960 the crown molding. So she gets her wallpaper that she 1245 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.400 wanted to put up there. I told her to Mom, 1246 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.920 I said, those walls are lad plaster. They're rough. You're 1247 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:57.760 gonna have to get them smooth. She's well, I could 1248 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:01.239 just send them down. I said, bomb, it's lath plaster. 1249 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:03.400 Let me show you something. I went out and shop 1250 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:07.119 and got my dad grinder and plugged it in, got 1251 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.960 on a ladder and hit it against that wall, and 1252 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:12.880 then started throwing sparks from the rock that was in 1253 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.559 the plaster. And I said, Mom, you're not going to 1254 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:18.920 do it. Well, how am I supposed to get him smooth? 1255 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.239 I had to come up with the idea of using 1256 01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:27.159 joint compound, you know, mud for she rock and had 1257 01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:29.760 to trol out every one of those walls so she 1258 01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:31.920 could lay this little six inch border at the top 1259 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:35.039 and it would be smooth. Oh boy, I thought I 1260 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:36.440 would die after that job. 1261 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.280 She said, well, you can sand it down. 1262 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.719 I said, Mom, if you I mean it's like bouncing 1263 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.079 a chainsaw off a curb. 1264 01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:46.719 You're not going to grind it down. 1265 01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.880 Oh okay. 1266 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.840 Well, that cooked mouse wall was hilarious because you know, 1267 01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.599 we had a guy with a big wrench who was 1268 01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.039 supposed to take the you know, cause the old radiators 1269 01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:01.880 were bolted to the floor and we're taking this house apart. 1270 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:06.360 And so of course the foreman tells me he take 1271 01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:10.719 a sledgehammer and bust the stupid bolts because they're not 1272 01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:13.559 coming out like the regular way. We can't just unscrew 1273 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.559 them there. I don't know what the problem was, but 1274 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:18.360 the wrench wasn't gonna do it. Uh So they give 1275 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:21.519 me the stupid sledgehammer to go hit it. I bang 1276 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:23.559 on this thing a couple of times. The next thing 1277 01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:25.440 I know is I'm falling out the side of the 1278 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.840 house with that section of the wall, and I'm from 1279 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.400 the second floor boom down in the backyard, and I 1280 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:34.920 land there, knocked the wind out of myself. I'm laying 1281 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.480 there for I don't know a few seconds, probably trying 1282 01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:42.400 to catch my breath, and the foreman walks over, looks 1283 01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:44.000 down at me, and goes, you're not going to the 1284 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:44.840 hospital till. 1285 01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:52.239 Lunchtime, Jersey. 1286 01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.519 Anyways, I didn't need to go to the hospital. 1287 01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.119 I just had the wind knocked out of me from 1288 01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.599 falling out of the side of a freaking house because 1289 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:03.039 somehow I hit it hard enough that the wall the 1290 01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.920 floor like a chunk of the house came out pretty 1291 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:11.880 much and just went out sideways and landed wall first, thankfully, 1292 01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.719 so the wall broke my fall, along with the window 1293 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.519 that thankfully we took the glass out of. So you know, 1294 01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:20.920 the wall broke my fall. I didn't land on the 1295 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:24.639 radiator because that probably would have broken something, and. 1296 01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:25.800 It probably would have been me. 1297 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:29.679 Anyway, radiator was out and people were pissed at me 1298 01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.719 because I ruined part of the floor, but the guy 1299 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:33.440 told me to hit it with a sledge hammer. I 1300 01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:38.639 was following directions. Anyways. You know, we all have adventures 1301 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:40.599 and jobs and I never had to do something like 1302 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.440 that like you did for your mom. But because obviously 1303 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.360 I have no skills, that's why I had the sledge 1304 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:53.679 hammer banging on a freaking bolt in a floor. Right, Okay, anyways, Jimmy, 1305 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:55.320 what else is on your mind this week? Because I'm 1306 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.039 thinking about taking a quick break so I can go pee. 1307 01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.440 But what else you got on your mind this week? 1308 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:00.800 Anything? 1309 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:11.480 Well? The missing the missing people from the jet the 1310 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:16.119 pulsing laboratory is pretty interesting, but we take a break. 1311 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:18.719 Okay, let's do that, because. 1312 01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.360 Yeah, because I haven't done any any of a research 1313 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.400 or a dive into that. I did see some headlines, 1314 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.159 but maybe B Pete can tell us about some headlines. 1315 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.599 Maybe you can dig a few up about that. While 1316 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:34.800 we take a quick break, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, 1317 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.239 and we'll come back, and anybody else that wants to 1318 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:42.119 join us sides Jimmy, we got a little under an 1319 01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:42.599 hour to go. 1320 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:48.119 It's what six minutes after nine pm Eastern here. 1321 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.199 On the seventeenth day of April twenty twenty six, allegedly 1322 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.480 according to that thing we call a calendar and the 1323 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:57.519 Ocelli Effect Live Mike Live, Friday Night Open Mic. Excuse 1324 01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.679 me with my cohos. 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But here on o'chelly dot com 1392 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.239 Radio network, things work out a bit bitter, don't they 1393 01:09:59.439 --> 01:09:59.920 much better? 1394 01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:04.760 What I mean, it's clear and understanding about the programs. 1395 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:11.119 The programs much clearer, getting live people into it. They 1396 01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:15.439 really have a good conversation going much better, much better scene. 1397 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.960 I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninjas and listen 1398 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.279 to the Olly dot com Radio Network. 1399 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:24.960 I agree, it's straight to the point, straight talk, and 1400 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.319 I like that idea dot. 1401 01:10:27.199 --> 01:11:04.159 Com All right? 1402 01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.319 The second and what should be the final sequence or 1403 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.319 a segment sequence? 1404 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.079 What is wrong with me? Segment? I'm misspeaking left and 1405 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:12.800 right tonight? 1406 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:18.600 Boy, I feel like all the complaints about me could 1407 01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:23.359 be true when it comes to misspoken phraseology. 1408 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.039 Anyways, So last. 1409 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.439 Reminder for this show for sure, and again a big 1410 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.840 thanks to anybody who has But if you guys want 1411 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:34.720 to kick in anything else toward the well being and 1412 01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:37.880 all that stuff, especially toward the cash app, honestly, because 1413 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:40.439 I set up cash app now to pay a couple 1414 01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:44.000 of bills that have to do with the network directly, 1415 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.800 so this way I don't have to transfer any money 1416 01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:49.199 or anything. 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And 1431 01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:33.359 if you don't, you know, if you're listening to this 1432 01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:35.279 show live and you want to donate, now go check 1433 01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:38.920 the past show notes. The donate links are on every 1434 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:44.760 show and along with you know, relevant references, guests links, 1435 01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.560 et cetera, et cetera. There were no links for David Boyland, 1436 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:52.159 by the way, boilin from the conversation we had with 1437 01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:56.479 him and Larry Hancock what was that Wednesday? Because David 1438 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.520 doesn't have a website or anything, so he has no 1439 01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.800 links he wants to give. But he is the co 1440 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.560 author of the Oswald Puzzle, So there you go. But 1441 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.600 you do have plenty of lakes for Larry Hancock. And 1442 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:09.520 if that's plenty to explore, believe me. Anyways, be Pete. 1443 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:12.359 We got Jimmy James on the line. I'm hoping we'll 1444 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:14.960 get some more people three one nine, five two seven 1445 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.680 five zero one six. But since Jimmy's the only one 1446 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.600 on the line, we're gonna go back to him. And 1447 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:24.000 he kicked off a subject before we went to break, uh, 1448 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.960 so I want to get back to him and uh 1449 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.079 let him loose on this because quite honestly, I didn't 1450 01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:34.560 go digging into this particular news story at all yet. 1451 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.760 Uh I saw the headlines, I saw a couple of 1452 01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:40.119 mentions here and there, some Twitter traffic. 1453 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:43.359 What else did I see? 1454 01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.880 Maybe a couple of YouTube short videos talking about it. 1455 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.600 But I have not adequately dug into this at all. 1456 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.000 So I'm gonna leave Jimmy and you to discuss it, 1457 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.000 I guess, and bring Jimmy back on Oh one more 1458 01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.680 time three one nine five two seven five zero one 1459 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.119 six if you want to join in live into this 1460 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:07.359 at fourteen minutes past nine pm Eastern on the what 1461 01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.600 is the seventeenth day of April on a Friday night, 1462 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.760 we're live, but of course most of you will hear 1463 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:16.119 the podcast, so either way, welcome to it and you 1464 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.199 can participate live. Three one nine five two seven five 1465 01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.479 zero one six. 1466 01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.600 There we go. I think I did that enough time 1467 01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:27.159 to be Pete. What do you think? Sure? Okay, fair enough? 1468 01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:28.640 And you know you can't. 1469 01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:30.680 Get a word in edgewise. You know what your fault. 1470 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:34.880 You're not calling in. Jimmy did so he's on. Anyway, 1471 01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:39.199 Jimmy back to the subject you kicked off before. 1472 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.000 We went to break. 1473 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:40.880 Uh. 1474 01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.479 Yeah, tell me a little bit about it, and I 1475 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.079 think b. Pete might have some information, but I want 1476 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:47.239 to hear from you about it first. 1477 01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:55.840 Well, a story that's been building up for the last 1478 01:14:55.960 --> 01:15:01.199 couple of months. People started really pa attention when a 1479 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:06.920 general disappeared, and then people noticed that there was a 1480 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:12.600 pattern of numerous people who in a short period of 1481 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:18.279 time have disappeared or been murdered. And they all worked 1482 01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:24.239 more or less together at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. 1483 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:26.640 Okay, now, and it's. 1484 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:34.800 That they border asked today the President about it, and 1485 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:40.359 he said he's ordering someone I would assume the FBI 1486 01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:45.840 to look into it, and he said he would mention 1487 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:47.479 it again in a few days. 1488 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:52.560 So yeah, So, Jimmy, I got a couple of questions 1489 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:53.119 real quick. 1490 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:54.159 One. 1491 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.640 Yeah, I do remember reading about a murder. I think 1492 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.760 there was a couple right that were together that we're murdered. 1493 01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:11.079 Is that correct? Is that the same story. 1494 01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.880 That there may have been a you mean a like 1495 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.119 husband and wife or something. 1496 01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:14.600 No. 1497 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.119 I wasn't certain about that. I was saying that there 1498 01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:19.680 were I should clarify that. You're right, a couple of 1499 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:24.079 people were murdered, like two to my mind, like maybe 1500 01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:24.680 weeks ago. 1501 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:32.399 Right, Well, in the last few years, there's been several 1502 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:37.199 and a bunch of other ones have just walked away. 1503 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:42.680 And they also have a very bizarre habit of leaving 1504 01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:46.560 their wallets and keys behind. And yet they keep saying, 1505 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:51.760 and they take their handguns with them. Oh, that's happened 1506 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:56.319 at least two times they mentioned kind of unusual. 1507 01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:59.119 Now is this people that disappeared or people that they 1508 01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:06.039 found dead took their handguns with them. 1509 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:10.479 Two people who just they disappeared, One was the general 1510 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:17.560 and one was another gentlemen. Okay, scientists, I guess. Okay, 1511 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:22.279 well they just walk off with their handgun, never to 1512 01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:23.119 be seen. 1513 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:24.399 Again, never to be seen again. 1514 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.000 Okay, So I got one last question and then I 1515 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:28.720 want to go to be Pete because I think he's 1516 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.439 got an article, uh that we can you know, at 1517 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:33.680 least try to, you know, navigate. 1518 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:37.279 But uh, my last question is this. 1519 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:40.680 Didn't somebody bring this up to Donald Trump like last 1520 01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.439 month also like and then they did it again in 1521 01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:47.600 the past couple of days, Like, hasn't even asked by 1522 01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:49.359 a reporter more than once about this. 1523 01:17:55.279 --> 01:18:00.279 I only know that, uh about that they were or 1524 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:04.560 asked him about it. Today. I'm not aware that. I 1525 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.399 don't think that there was the Dinosaur. Press paid any 1526 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:13.199 attention to it up until very recently last week or so. 1527 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.000 Yeah, I just couldn't remember. 1528 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:18.319 Like, look, it could have been on Fox and Friends, 1529 01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.439 but I thought I saw a clip of the President 1530 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.439 being asked about it, you know, when he drops in 1531 01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:24.760 on Fox and Friends or something like that. I don't 1532 01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:26.960 remember if it was that or during a regular presser, 1533 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:29.560 but I thought a couple of months ago they asked 1534 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:31.960 him about this too, or weeks ago, I should say, 1535 01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:33.640 they asked him about. 1536 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.319 It, and then you say it was today. 1537 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:37.000 I knew it was in the past few days, but 1538 01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:38.720 I didn't look at the date even you know, I 1539 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.479 didn't pay special attention to this, but I know it 1540 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.960 was in the past few days. 1541 01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:48.760 Right, hold on, I have one correction. Okay, someone did 1542 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.800 bring up the missing general to him before. 1543 01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.279 Oh okay, No, I just I'm just like picking through 1544 01:18:57.279 --> 01:19:00.119 my memory trying to remember what I've seen, and I'm 1545 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.880 trying to associate it with this. I'm openly asking the 1546 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.000 questions so you can correct anything I say here, because 1547 01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:08.079 I don't know nothing except what you guys are telling me. 1548 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.479 Really, and a few clips I've seen, so b Pete, 1549 01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:12.560 what do we have? 1550 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:15.119 As the story goes here, according to the article you 1551 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.920 dug up, you said from NewsNation, I think during the break. 1552 01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.479 Yeah, I got a couple from NewsNation. One one was 1553 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:23.560 done by Elizabeth Vargas and the other one was done 1554 01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.560 by Jeremy Webb, I think. But I'll get to that 1555 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.800 in a second. I did an AI search and it 1556 01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:34.479 said because apparently the first person on this list was 1557 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.760 way back in twenty twenty two, it says at least 1558 01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:41.119 ten scientists connected the UFO research have been reported missing 1559 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.920 or dead since mid twenty twenty four. The FBIS investigated 1560 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.680 these cases to uncover any potential connections among them. Notable cases, 1561 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:54.000 let's see scientists reported as missing or dead, and the 1562 01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:59.880 first one is Amy Escridge. She founded the Institute for 1563 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.319 Exotic Science, and in twenty twenty two they found her dead. 1564 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:07.039 I think in Alabama. I'm not sure I've got that 1565 01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:11.880 story here. But William Neil McCaslin is the retired Air 1566 01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:16.159 Force general and he disappeared in February of this year. 1567 01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:22.039 Stephen Garcia is a government contractor at a nuclear facility. 1568 01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:25.359 They handle all of the nuclear items that are either 1569 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:30.479 in our ballistic missiles or anything connected with any space shots, 1570 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.439 anything like that. He was missing in August of twenty 1571 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:41.760 twenty five. Monica Jacinto Reza, who was working for McCaslin 1572 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.399 the General on some projects. She disappeared in June of 1573 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:51.720 twenty twenty five, and it goes on to say, let 1574 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.199 me scroll back up here. It says the disappearances began 1575 01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.199 attracting attention in twenty twenty two, with Amy Esker's case 1576 01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:02.279 being particularly notable due to comments about threats related to 1577 01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:05.520 her research. Many of the missing or to see scientists 1578 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:10.640 had connections to significant research institutions, including NASA and the 1579 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:16.800 Los Alamos National Laboratory. Now Amy Esbridge, who was the 1580 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:21.600 first one, let me pull up her article says a 1581 01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:24.880 scientist who reportedly died of a self inflicted gunshot wound 1582 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.840 in twenty twenty two, is receiving renewed attention amid reports 1583 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:32.159 on a series of death and disappearances involving US experts 1584 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:36.359 tied to advanced research. The Daily Mail reported that Amy 1585 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:41.279 Esbridge died in Huntsville, Alabama, on June eleventh, twenty twenty two. 1586 01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.319 Out reported the death as a self inflicted gunshot wound 1587 01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.720 to the head, but said neither the police nor the 1588 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:51.960 medical examiner have released a public investigative report. The report 1589 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.239 that was issued highlighted unresolved questions around her death, placing 1590 01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:59.439 her among the list of eleven scientists and researchers whose 1591 01:21:59.479 --> 01:22:03.399 cases have prompted speculation and so far they've not been 1592 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:09.560 able to find any link. Now here just today, let's see, 1593 01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:12.560 this is Elizabeth Vargas. This says. The disappearance in death 1594 01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.680 of ten people with reported access to some of America's 1595 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.000 top nuclear space secrets have sparked questions. While none of 1596 01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:22.319 the cases have been publicly connected by authorities, the pressure 1597 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:26.079 is on for Trump administration to investigate possible links, I 1598 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:28.239 said when asked about the cases by a reporter, The 1599 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:30.760 White House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt said, I haven't 1600 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.479 spoken to our or irrelevant agencies about it. I will 1601 01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:36.560 certainly do that. We'll get you an answer if true. 1602 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:39.119 Of course, has definitely something I think the government and 1603 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:42.359 administration would be worth looking into. So she's supposed to 1604 01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.920 be checking on it. Stephen Garcia, a government contractor with 1605 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:48.479 alleged top level clearance at a key nuclear facility, is 1606 01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:51.079 the latest to be connected to the growing list. 1607 01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:52.600 So apparently they've gone back. 1608 01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:57.039 We had the general in February, we had someone else. 1609 01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:00.640 Now they've gone back and looked at these other weird cases, 1610 01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:03.880 and they're saying that's how the list got put together. 1611 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.520 Garcia disappeared in August of last year. He reportedly left 1612 01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:12.439 his phone, wallet and keys, picked up a gun, and 1613 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.359 walked out of his New Mexico home. 1614 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:18.119 His chase was similar to that of Yeah. 1615 01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.439 His case is similar to that of retired Air Force 1616 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.159 Major General William Neil McCaslin, who went missing February twenty 1617 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:28.000 seventh after leaving his Albuquerque home on foot. As for 1618 01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:31.760 the other eight cases, two scienceists were shot and killed 1619 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.960 at their homes. Another body was believed to be found 1620 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:38.279 at the bottom of the lake. Others vanished from their houses, 1621 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:41.880 a highway and a hiking trail, and none of these 1622 01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.000 cases from the past thirty three months are officially connected, 1623 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.960 but people are starting to ask questions. So members of 1624 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:53.079 the community devoted to the study of UAPs I can't 1625 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.920 get used to that. To me, they're UFOs. I see 1626 01:23:56.079 --> 01:24:02.279 uap it's or unidentified anomalist, and I and UFOs have 1627 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:04.840 expressed concerns that the events are somehow linked. 1628 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:06.359 Says, it's bizarre. 1629 01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:09.760 I go through the various potential scenarios. These are large organizations. 1630 01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:12.479 Could these be coincidences? I think we might have to 1631 01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:17.159 have passed that threshold. Former State Department analyst Merrik vonn 1632 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:22.119 In count Total Elizabeth Vargas. Chris Wecker, a former FBI 1633 01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:25.840 assistant director, didn't rule out a connection. They think that 1634 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:32.600 it might be espionage, not people being taken by aliens, 1635 01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:37.640 which has been one theory thrown out there. Okay, I 1636 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.039 guess you know the aliens are gonna steal all of 1637 01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:40.720 our people. 1638 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:41.319 That know things. 1639 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.319 Yeah, listen, if the aliens are capable of getting here 1640 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.600 from wherever the hell they came from, I don't think 1641 01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:48.239 they need. 1642 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.399 Our people all that bad. Uh. 1643 01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:54.199 So espionage sounds like a more likely thing. But what 1644 01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:56.880 is the exact connective tissue? Is it all through the 1645 01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:01.520 same facilities? Is it all under the same group? 1646 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:02.600 Are talking about? 1647 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:07.279 Says it? Says it, says most Before his disappearance, Macaslein, 1648 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:10.399 Now this is the retired general. His former colleague and 1649 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.560 material scientist Monica Reza, vanished while hiking. Reza was an 1650 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.560 aerospace engineer who developed a special medal used in rockets. 1651 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.079 The project was funded by the US government and overseen 1652 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.960 by McCaslin. Other missing scientists and insiders include a no 1653 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:31.039 artist biologist Jason Thomas, Los Alamo's National Laboratory employees Melissa 1654 01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:38.039 Kaslis and Anthony Chavez, the death of Hicks, NASA's Frank 1655 01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:45.119 my Wald and MIT's Nuno Lrerio, and Caltech's Carl Grimmore So, 1656 01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:48.760 they're all at high tech institutions either were like MIT, 1657 01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:54.199 NASA and Los Alamos National Laboratory. Says here, the most 1658 01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:57.079 striking thing for me is Monica Reza and General mcaslin. 1659 01:25:57.119 --> 01:26:00.600 I mean Monica Resla worked closely with General Castle, and 1660 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:06.199 she disappeared under extremely, extremely disturbing the mysterious circumstances. Reportedly, 1661 01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:08.720 she co patented a super alloy that was going to 1662 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:14.119 be used for rocket propulsion, and apparently McCaslin and her 1663 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:15.760 were like leaders in their field. 1664 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:21.600 Okay, so it sounds to me like, look, some of 1665 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.920 this could be development for weapons, some of this could 1666 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:26.680 be development. 1667 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:29.039 For you know, leaving Earth. 1668 01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:33.039 But you know it is it definitely all like UAP 1669 01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:35.439 connected or you know, I know, you hate that term. 1670 01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:38.720 But is it all connected to UAP stuff or is 1671 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.359 it possible we're talking about because when you're talking about 1672 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:45.279 Los Alamos, they developed a lot of strange things out there, 1673 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:49.159 and you know, most of it not meant for public 1674 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:54.600 consumption from what I understand, you know, Jimmy, a lot of. 1675 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:56.319 What is classified. 1676 01:26:56.359 --> 01:27:04.000 These people are are connected because they worked at right Patterson. 1677 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:10.319 That general was the charge of the applied Technology units. 1678 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:14.840 These are the people that you've of course heard a 1679 01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.800 Project blue Book. There's a reason it's called that because 1680 01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:23.640 the Blue Room is at right Patterson and that's exactly 1681 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:28.000 where they keep these exotic materials to things that the subject. 1682 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:30.880 Okay, so the fact that these people. 1683 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:34.760 Are is not all I mean, it's a national security 1684 01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:36.119 issue quite frankly. 1685 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:39.479 Yeah, Well that's what I'm thinking, is that generally speaking, 1686 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.439 what we have here overall is a serious national security 1687 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.640 issue if you have a pattern like this, and it's 1688 01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.640 absolutely outrageous that the military intelligence people didn't pick up 1689 01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:49.880 on this. 1690 01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.520 Yet in my mind, they should be on this. 1691 01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:55.199 Are they, I wonder, and would they let us know 1692 01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:59.399 if they were? You know, I don't know the answer 1693 01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:00.880 to that question. And this is a good time for 1694 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:02.800 some of the people that worked in that industry that 1695 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.640 I have run across to contact me here and help 1696 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:09.720 me out, because navigating that stuff is hard, you know, 1697 01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:10.720 generally speaking. 1698 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.720 Uh. But wow, So this whole pattern's been going on 1699 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.439 since twenty twenty two, is that, right? Vp't according to 1700 01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:19.840 that summation. 1701 01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:23.840 Well, people that are creating these lists and these news 1702 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:27.199 agencies are putting these people together. Yeah, some of them 1703 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.119 have gone back to that one person's death in twenty 1704 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:32.960 twenty two. The rest of these have happened in twenty 1705 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.680 twenty four, twenty twenty five, twenty six, over the last 1706 01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:40.039 thirty three months. Okay, So, like some of the theories out 1707 01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:46.159 there are that, like McCaslin, his wife in a Facebook 1708 01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:50.479 post put Neil does not have any special knowledge about 1709 01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:54.000 the et bodies and debris from the Roswell crash stored 1710 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:57.439 it right, Patterson though at this point with absolutely no 1711 01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:00.399 sign of them, Maybe the best hypothesis is that alliens 1712 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.520 beat him up to the mothership. However, no sightings of 1713 01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:07.079 a mothership hovering above the Sadia Mountains have been reported. 1714 01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.560 Wait his wife posted that. Wait, well, hold on, his 1715 01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:12.840 wife posted. 1716 01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:17.359 That because yeah, yeah, I love to point out that 1717 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:22.880 This woman is a very weird, strange person. I would 1718 01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:27.000 never act like this woman does if my spouse was missing. 1719 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:31.039 She's acting like it's a big old joe. I just 1720 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:32.079 put that out there. 1721 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:36.199 Wow, Okay, this is news to me. I got go ahead. 1722 01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.119 So what else? What else do we need to know? 1723 01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:42.439 This is pretty wild, But I was not aware it was. 1724 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:47.840 This deeds good Monica Rezora was was hiking and she's missing, 1725 01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:51.520 you know, so she could have fallen and hurt herself. 1726 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:54.039 You know, is she gonna been attacked by a mountain lion? 1727 01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:54.960 Who the hell knows what? 1728 01:29:55.800 --> 01:29:58.720 But she was a fellow's. 1729 01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:02.840 Material science and engineering at Aerojet Rocket Dye, which is 1730 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:06.920 you know, she developed this alloy that used in rockets. 1731 01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:11.920 Melissa Cassius disappeared in the summer of twenty twenty five. 1732 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.279 She worked at Los Alamos National Labs. In September of 1733 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:18.960 twenty twenty five, the Taus News reported, two months after 1734 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:23.239 Melissa Cassius, a fifty three year old Los Alamos National 1735 01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:26.520 Lab employee, went missing. Her disappearance has left more questions 1736 01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:29.840 and answers. New Mexico police reported no breakthroughs in the investigation. 1737 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.880 Anthony Chavez also worked at that same lab before he 1738 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.880 went missing. In May of twenty twenty five, the Los 1739 01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:40.359 Alamos Police Department shared photos of him and wrote missing persons. 1740 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.159 Mister Anthony Chavez of Los Alamos was reported as a 1741 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.800 missing person since in exhaust's efforts to locate them have 1742 01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:50.520 proved unsuccessful. He's not believe to be endangered, but the 1743 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:55.199 public disasked to help locate him. Okay, Glarcia is. 1744 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.079 Sorry, Okay, hang on just a second. 1745 01:30:57.079 --> 01:30:58.119 Garcia is the one. 1746 01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:01.560 Yeah, just hang on a sad because you're you're going 1747 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:03.159 through a list here. But I'm gonna put Jimmy on 1748 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.640 hold real quick, and uh, we're gonna go to Danny 1749 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:11.319 see if he's got anything to say about this. Uh yeah, Danny, 1750 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.000 you're live. Do do you have anything you want to 1751 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:17.720 add to this interesting story? The string of individuals disappearing 1752 01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:27.640 and all this. Uh, Danny, I can't hear you if 1753 01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.880 you're live. I don't know if you're muted. 1754 01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:31.920 Oh I'm on you. 1755 01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.399 Sorry, no, no, From the last thirty minutes, I've missed 1756 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:37.000 in the show, so I don't know the story. 1757 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:38.159 So what's missing? 1758 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:41.319 It sounds a little animals or these scientists that are missing. 1759 01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:43.680 Oh, yeah, yeah, No, there's a lot. 1760 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:46.479 Be Pete's been reading off of the story and Jimmy 1761 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:47.880 James brought it up to begin with. 1762 01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:49.880 So I'm gonna put you back on hold and put 1763 01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:50.640 Jimmy back on. 1764 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:51.600 Continue on. 1765 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:52.600 I want to hear what it is. 1766 01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:57.000 Yeah, because be peaches he's listing some of the scientists 1767 01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.840 and everything. So I'm gonna put Jimmy back on. But 1768 01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:02.760 but go ahead, be p continue with the list. I 1769 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:03.920 got Jimmy back live. 1770 01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:07.319 Though, all right, It says the other cases involved to 1771 01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:10.399 see scientists. There are suspects in some of those cases. 1772 01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:13.279 One of them the guy mentioned from MIT Well, he 1773 01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:17.720 was shot to death by the Claudio Valente, the suspect 1774 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:20.680 in the Brown University mass shooting. This was a murder 1775 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:24.680 that supposedly he did before the Brown University shooting. Jason 1776 01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:29.920 Thomas a scientist at Nevardes, a Swiss pharmaceutical company, who disappeared, 1777 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:32.079 but they found him later at the bottom of the lake. 1778 01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:36.560 Frank Mayland, who worked at the Jet Propulsion Lab. His 1779 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:39.680 obituary says that he passed away on July fourth, twenty 1780 01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:45.079 twenty four. Carl Grillmeyer and astrophysicist at Caltech. He was 1781 01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.560 shot to death in his home, but there is a 1782 01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:51.359 suspect that was charged with him after carjacking his own 1783 01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:55.000 relative and burglarizing a home. So the ones that they 1784 01:32:55.079 --> 01:33:02.239 really have started all this is when McCaslin disappeared. He 1785 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:04.640 was last seen at or near his residence in the 1786 01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:07.560 area of Quail Run Court Northeast on the morning of Friday, 1787 01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:11.039 February twenty seventh. They put out a silver alert for right. 1788 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:14.479 Now, that's this year now VP, Sorry, that's this year 1789 01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:18.119 that mcaslyn disappeared, and that's caused everybody to look back 1790 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:22.159 and go, hey, wait a minute. Other people have disappeared 1791 01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:26.399 connected to this guy. So that is this all tracking 1792 01:33:26.439 --> 01:33:28.359 with you, Jimmy? Does this all go along with what 1793 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:29.920 it is you were bringing up? 1794 01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.359 You nailed that, Chuck. Over the last couple of weeks, 1795 01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:40.520 people are putting these dots together. They're saying, well, this 1796 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:46.600 is beyond statistics. Yeah, this is a strange going on here. 1797 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.399 Yeah, this is a lot of can yeah you live, don't. 1798 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:55.279 These people were working at the town but the row 1799 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:59.439 of the Town period would be thirteen years ago because 1800 01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:03.039 that was the last project that the general was working on. 1801 01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:05.239 Thirteen years ago. 1802 01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:08.079 Is that the project to make that special kind of 1803 01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.079 metal that scientist was responsible for. 1804 01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:16.800 I do not know what those people were working on. 1805 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:18.800 My guess would be rockets. 1806 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:21.279 That would be my guest too. 1807 01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.880 But yeah, that's why I said either weapons or travel, 1808 01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:30.439 but I'm thinking, you know, maybe both, but either way rocket, right, 1809 01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:32.680 I mean we're talking about rocket technologies here. 1810 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:39.439 Yeah, man, Yeah, okay, that's the name of the lab. 1811 01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:47.720 I'm guessing they don't keep me abreast unfortunately, Chuck. 1812 01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:49.199 No, hey, look, no problem. 1813 01:34:49.239 --> 01:34:51.279 I'm just you know, like I said, I had not 1814 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:54.720 studied this closely, so I wasn't aware there was this big, large, 1815 01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:58.239 long pattern of people disappearing that are interconnected. 1816 01:34:58.359 --> 01:34:59.960 Yeah, did you say you have something else yet? 1817 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:04.560 Well, I was gonna say mcaslin Like Garcia. It says 1818 01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:08.119 here that he was last seen in the morning. His 1819 01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:12.439 wife left for a doctor's appointment and came back he 1820 01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:17.560 wasn't home. His phone, prescription glasses, and wearable devices were 1821 01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:22.640 located at the residence. It says, however, additional items to 1822 01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:26.159 believe to be missing include his hiking boots, wallet, and 1823 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:30.720 a thirty eight revolver with a leather holster. So these 1824 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:35.199 that's two guys August of last year in February of 1825 01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:37.720 this year, that leave their home and took their weapon 1826 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:40.840 with them. Now, one took his wallet, the other one didn't. 1827 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:46.000 But you know, you're leaving home on foot with a pistol. 1828 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:50.000 Something's up. Yeah, definitely, unless you're just carrying it for 1829 01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:50.920 personal protection. 1830 01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:54.520 Yeah, but that being the case, why would you leave 1831 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:59.199 your home on foot? You know what I mean? That's different? 1832 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:01.159 And then you know, I mean, if he's got it 1833 01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:02.960 and he throws in his car, I get it. But yeah, 1834 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:03.359 go ahead. 1835 01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.680 So you know, unless they were going to meet somebody, right, 1836 01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:09.520 that's the only thing I can figure why they left 1837 01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:11.560 on foot was because they were meeting somebody. 1838 01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:14.720 Well, right, and look, you're talking about a retired general. 1839 01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:17.199 I mean, how far is he planning to walk to 1840 01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:18.199 go meet somebody? 1841 01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:18.680 Right? 1842 01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:22.560 If he's on foot, I'm just saying, unless somebody came 1843 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.319 by and picked him up, and we don't know about that. 1844 01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:29.319 But either way, yeah, you have a strange pattern here emerging. 1845 01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:31.479 And like I said, I'm just kind of amazed that 1846 01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:34.479 this wasn't something like, yeah, we already know about this. 1847 01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:38.359 That wasn't the answer that you got when the president 1848 01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.039 was asked and the president, you know, honestly is not 1849 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:43.000 going to be in on everything anyway, no matter who 1850 01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:46.760 he is. But you know, so, I mean he would 1851 01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:48.760 direct somebody, though, you would think that the people in 1852 01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.319 charge of investigative agencies, and again, like I said, military 1853 01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:55.720 intelligence people should be on this. And if not, like 1854 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:59.359 Jimmy said, it's a national security issue, I mean, what 1855 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:03.439 the hell. You know, he got scientists killing themselves, people 1856 01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:07.640 getting murdered, people disappearing walking away with a side arm. Yeah, 1857 01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:11.880 something's very wrong here when they're all connected, I think, 1858 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.239 you know, Jimmy, that's the point. 1859 01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:27.600 Yeah, yeah, something very bizarre is going on. I mean, gee, 1860 01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:30.760 it sure looks like someone's doing some kind of clean 1861 01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:31.640 up operation. 1862 01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:33.600 Yeah. 1863 01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:34.439 See, that's the thing. 1864 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:37.319 I mean, like, I don't know, it seems a little 1865 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:40.159 too sloppy for our people to be cleaning up this way, 1866 01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:44.000 But then again, we've seen sloppy before. You know, is 1867 01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:48.039 there any indication of foreign you know, intervention in these 1868 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:52.319 people's lives. Does anybody have an indication that somebody approached 1869 01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:54.359 them even anything like that, or is there any hints 1870 01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:56.520 of that in the story that anybody I mean, Jimmy, 1871 01:37:56.560 --> 01:37:57.560 do you know anything about that? 1872 01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:02.720 No, yes, oh you do. 1873 01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:06.600 Okay, I can tell you some stuff, but you you 1874 01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:07.600 won't want to hear it. 1875 01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:10.720 I've been through that before, and it's. 1876 01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:15.960 Just it's speculation based on some things have heard, Okay, 1877 01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.239 just things that I find strange. 1878 01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:21.760 So go for it. What do you What do you 1879 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:22.479 got that you know? 1880 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:23.079 Would you like? 1881 01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:24.399 Yeah? Of course? 1882 01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:27.119 But look, this is speculation on your part based on 1883 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:31.479 some information that you've seen, right, yeah. 1884 01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:47.199 Yes, I all right. Now you'll recall mister Senator Captain 1885 01:38:47.359 --> 01:38:51.199 Kelly of the United States Senate, right, the guy that looks. 1886 01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:57.680 Like the ogre okay yep, formerly. 1887 01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:03.119 A NASA mm hm uh uh yeah, who was the 1888 01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:08.720 first person the Savannah guth recalled when she found out 1889 01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.760 that her mother was missing. That guy? 1890 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:13.439 Mm hmm. 1891 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:19.279 What does this guy do? Uh? In as oft times 1892 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:26.600 when he's not busy Senatory. Oh, he's in to making 1893 01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.920 balloons with the Chinese. 1894 01:39:31.159 --> 01:39:31.520 Hmmm. 1895 01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.439 Well what does that have to do with anything? I 1896 01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:45.800 don't know, m but I have my suspicions. Eh, something's 1897 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:48.399 going on. I hope someone's looking into it. 1898 01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:50.439 Yeah, I hope so too, because I mean, if you're 1899 01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:53.159 talking about Chinese balloons, I mean my first thought is 1900 01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:57.600 surveillance and stuff like that. Remember those weird incidents we 1901 01:39:57.600 --> 01:39:59.600 had a couple of years ago with the balloons flying 1902 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:00.720 all over place. 1903 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:05.439 And like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, how about that? 1904 01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:08.640 And this time makes exactly those points of balloons with 1905 01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:13.680 the Chinese. Hmm, how about that? What a heck of 1906 01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:14.119 a thing. 1907 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:16.319 How about that? 1908 01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:19.760 Well, anyway, let me put you on hold Jimmy real quick. 1909 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.359 I mean, b Pete, what do you think of that? 1910 01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:24.960 Uh? That's some interesting uh supposition. 1911 01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:30.680 There, you know, it's it's it's Arizona, New Mexico. The 1912 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.600 crazy people have all moved there, so it's like a 1913 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:37.039 little California. Just I'm telling them what's going on. 1914 01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:38.359 I don't I don't think. 1915 01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:40.520 I don't think all of the people on the ten 1916 01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:43.479 list are connected. I think some of them died because 1917 01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:46.399 they died. Some of them, you know, were shot and 1918 01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:48.720 killed by other people that turned out to be nutbags. 1919 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:52.439 But this one, this general, and the guy and the 1920 01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.720 girl that was working for him at the same place, 1921 01:40:55.800 --> 01:41:00.520 it just seems weird. One disappears hiking, one disappear leaving 1922 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:04.239 his house and his pistols missing, and Garcia leaves his 1923 01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:07.439 house taking his pistol with him and leaving everything else 1924 01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:11.239 at home. Something is strange there. I don't get it now. 1925 01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:17.439 Who is the guy? Remember about four years ago, the 1926 01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:20.079 guy out in California. 1927 01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:23.359 That was found dead in his car. 1928 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:26.880 I can't think of his name. Somehow he was connected 1929 01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:32.560 to intelligence and he ended up his his notebooks or 1930 01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:34.960 notes or something that he had on a particular thing 1931 01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:41.119 were missing when they found his body. Oh yeah, dig deep. Yeah, 1932 01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:44.399 I'm wondering if that, you know, is maybe when this 1933 01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:48.600 stuff started, because this guy just they can't figure out 1934 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:51.680 why he was where he was when he ended up 1935 01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:54.960 getting he got shot in the chest. I think they 1936 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:58.000 don't know if it was a random He wasn't robbed, right, 1937 01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:00.760 but supposedly some of his recent search stuff that he 1938 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:01.880 had with him was missing. 1939 01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:05.920 Yeah. That that actually happened to a couple of people. 1940 01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:08.479 The one guy was like part of a police agency, 1941 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:10.279 and then it turned out he was part of some 1942 01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:15.920 you know, like national intelligence thing for local police and 1943 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:18.800 his notes disappeared. But that guy in California was even 1944 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:23.319 stranger because he was tied to federal stuff. I can't 1945 01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:25.479 you know, I don't recall all the details, but I 1946 01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:29.079 remember that, and like I said, those balloons over the US. 1947 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.439 That was like a weird thing that happened. Remember that 1948 01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:33.600 the balloons made it all the way across the country. 1949 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:37.680 Nobody took him down show, Yeah, until it got over 1950 01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:39.680 the ocean, and then they decided to shoot the thing down. 1951 01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:42.479 Yeah right, Well by then and then they said, oh 1952 01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:44.520 there was nothing on it, they would allow them to transmit. 1953 01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:47.279 Then come and find out, oh yeah it could transmit. 1954 01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:48.720 It was transmitting the whole time. 1955 01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:50.880 Yeah right, So you. 1956 01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:53.199 Know, look, we got some weird stuff going on, and 1957 01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:56.600 I got to say, the greatest beneficiary of a lot 1958 01:42:56.720 --> 01:43:03.880 of the political and international even the you know, let's 1959 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.399 be honest, some of the chaos that's occurring here in 1960 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:09.159 the diplomatic spheres of influence. 1961 01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:12.840 You know, I just keep it just sticks in. 1962 01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:16.920 My brain that the Chinese keep benefiting from a whole 1963 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.479 lot of stuff that's happening, even if it doesn't appear 1964 01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:24.439 as though they're directly involved. They keep benefiting from everything. 1965 01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:29.840 I mean, anyway, I don't want to take that supposition 1966 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:33.840 or speculation too much further until I look into this thing, especially, 1967 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.399 but I got to look into it now, because you 1968 01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:39.560 guys have given me a lot to think about but Danny. 1969 01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:41.520 I want to get Danny's comments on it, at least 1970 01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:43.239 or to see what he knows or wants to say, 1971 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:45.600 and then we'll get back to Jimmy before we're done here. 1972 01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.239 This is an interesting discussion. 1973 01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:47.920 You know. 1974 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:51.199 We started with Dorito's and has anybody noticed price changes 1975 01:43:51.239 --> 01:43:55.880 at McDonald's and what the cost of a frozen pizza is? 1976 01:43:56.640 --> 01:44:00.039 And we end up on you know, spycraft and so 1977 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:02.399 what the hell is going on with people get murdered 1978 01:44:02.439 --> 01:44:07.439 and disappearing connected to you know, exotic technologies. 1979 01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:09.680 Danny, Let's see if. 1980 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.279 We can get a many before you go to Danny. 1981 01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:14.000 Sorry, yeah, before you. 1982 01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:14.960 Go to Danny real quick. 1983 01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:17.399 If we do lose the topic or we got to 1984 01:44:17.399 --> 01:44:21.399 go change topics. They think they had solved the mystery 1985 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:24.319 of the lost colony in North Carolina four hundred years ago. 1986 01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:25.479 Oh you're kidding me. 1987 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:29.159 Figured out what happened now, it's all done through archaeology. 1988 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:32.119 But go to Danny. Well we'll catch that later. 1989 01:44:32.399 --> 01:44:34.800 Yeah no, and listen, save it for next week, even 1990 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:38.159 because I'm fascinated by that story, you know, the colony 1991 01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:44.079 that disappeared, Because the best idea I thought after looking 1992 01:44:44.119 --> 01:44:47.119 at that whole thing is that those people just blended 1993 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.840 into the native tribe, and you know, something happened there 1994 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:52.840 where a lot of them probably died off, and what 1995 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.560 was left of them just sort of joined up with 1996 01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:56.199 the natives. 1997 01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.760 That's what I think. But anyway, let's yeah. 1998 01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:01.720 They absolutely split. Yeah they split, some went one way, 1999 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:02.399 some went. 2000 01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:05.239 The other way, but they continued in those areas where 2001 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:07.680 they were. But yeah, you're right, it does tie in. 2002 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:11.800 They traced DNA back to Tutor, England from some of 2003 01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:13.359 the people out there on hatter As Islum. 2004 01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:14.439 That makes sense. 2005 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:17.840 See that finally makes sense of this story where basically 2006 01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:21.479 a whole settlement just vanishes from history at a certain point. 2007 01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:24.359 And what I think happened is, like I say again, 2008 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.279 is that either a sickness came through or a natural 2009 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:29.920 disaster came through and a lot of them were killed 2010 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:33.520 and then they just sort of blended into what was there, 2011 01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:35.640 I mean, what was left of them. That's what I 2012 01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:38.039 think happened. But anyway, we'll get into that, and at 2013 01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:40.479 another time, let's get to Danny on this other story 2014 01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:44.319 and probably go back to Jimmy James. So Danny, now 2015 01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:46.680 that you've heard some more about this, you got any thoughts, 2016 01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:48.399 and are you familiar with the story. 2017 01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:48.680 And all that. 2018 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:54.159 I'm becoming familiar. I wasn't familiar. 2019 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:59.199 But while I was listening to BP and Jimmy James 2020 01:45:59.239 --> 01:46:02.039 and you talking about the subject matter, I just went 2021 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:04.319 in and googled it in and I just started just 2022 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:06.640 I didn't read an article, but I must have scrolled 2023 01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:15.199 through about nearly eighty different headlines and maybe fifty different publications, right, 2024 01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:17.319 and some of them were international. 2025 01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:18.960 So this is a topic. 2026 01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:22.479 I mean, there's enough information there that people were reporting 2027 01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:23.159 writing about. 2028 01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:24.520 But as I was getting down. 2029 01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:29.439 About the past the fortieth level of headlines just reading 2030 01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:31.680 the headlines, they're all kind of saying the same thing. 2031 01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:34.680 Started saying connection with UFOs. 2032 01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.880 Then they said, now the FBI is going to be involved. 2033 01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:42.319 So there's something there that is enough concern to be 2034 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:46.119 looking in. There are people looking into it. Yeah, it's interesting, 2035 01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.199 but I don't know. I don't know what's going on. 2036 01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:49.960 No, I got you honest. 2037 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:52.159 I had only seen a couple of headlines and I 2038 01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:54.960 saw the clip of like Trump being asked about it, 2039 01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:58.439 and really hadn't done into it. I mean, like I said, 2040 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:01.960 I recall hearing about this some time ago, must have 2041 01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:06.079 been when mcaskill disappeared in February that I recall hearing 2042 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:07.720 about this recently. 2043 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:12.119 But because I didn't read any of the articles. 2044 01:47:12.359 --> 01:47:16.279 Who's well, he's like the retired general who was allegedly 2045 01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:20.079 or supposedly I should I don't even know honestly, but 2046 01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:22.359 he was supposed to be the head of you know, 2047 01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:26.119 certain agencies and one of the other scientists. Like I said, 2048 01:47:26.159 --> 01:47:29.000 these are two key things, but there's a whole list 2049 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:31.760 of people that have now you know, disappeared or been 2050 01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:34.920 killed one way or another, either you know, by nut 2051 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:38.239 jobs just blowing their heads off, or you know, the 2052 01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:40.279 one guy before he did a mass shooting went and 2053 01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:43.800 decided to kill this one scientist apparently. And I mean, 2054 01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:47.279 there's just a lot of death and destruction, uh, in 2055 01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.239 a very narrow corridor of people, which. 2056 01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:52.520 You know often indicates a trend. 2057 01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:56.600 Oh my god, you know, And and it does seem 2058 01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:58.399 to be a serious national security issue. 2059 01:47:58.399 --> 01:47:58.920 I agree with. 2060 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.479 Jimmy, and what the hell is going on? Yeah, we 2061 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:04.199 need to know about this some more. We're gonna have 2062 01:48:04.199 --> 01:48:06.239 to look into it some more the way I see it, 2063 01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.399 But I'm gonna put you back on hold real quick. Danny, 2064 01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:10.960 unless you got something else you want to add. 2065 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.439 Okay, no, no, I'm just cool. 2066 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.399 Okay, hang on, and let's see we'll get back to 2067 01:48:18.479 --> 01:48:20.399 jim How much time do we have left here? We 2068 01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:22.640 got about twelve minutes left, so we'll get back to Jimmy, 2069 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:28.279 who brought up a deep dive into a serious topic here, 2070 01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:32.319 and I'm glad he did because now it's got my attention, 2071 01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.119 and I want to take a good look into all 2072 01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:37.279 of this and see what I can do with actual 2073 01:48:37.319 --> 01:48:40.159 sources and see what I can do outside of you know, 2074 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:43.920 what's being printed. But I will look into it some more. Jimmy, 2075 01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:47.840 this is a hell of a thing though. You know, 2076 01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:50.680 I don't know if your supposition is correct, but something 2077 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:53.720 is definitely up here, and it's serious. I agree with 2078 01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:57.520 you there, absolutely, just as a cursory look at this 2079 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.159 is revealing a whole bunch of crazy this. 2080 01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:04.439 So you know, anything else you want to add. 2081 01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:12.399 Well, it's like you said, disturbing. I mean, if if 2082 01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:17.680 even one of these people have been abducted or some 2083 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:23.000 such thing by a foreign power or whatever, that's a 2084 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:26.920 huge issue, big issue. Yeah, the recept I heard this 2085 01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:30.800 general was missing in February I've been lectioning this because 2086 01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:36.880 you know, I UFOs and all this stuff aside, there's 2087 01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:40.079 a general missing that alone is a big issue. 2088 01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:44.000 Well, and you know what's funny is I I was 2089 01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:47.960 recently digging into something else that I haven't discussed anywhere, 2090 01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:54.399 regarding some of people being abducted or appearing to be abducted, 2091 01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:57.720 disappearing and then it turns out they wound up, you know, 2092 01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:01.479 basically being co opted by a foreign nation, and some 2093 01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:05.600 of them voluntarily, and you know, they die thirty forty 2094 01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:09.239 years later and it turns out they're you know, buried 2095 01:50:09.359 --> 01:50:12.560 in somewhere within the Soviet Union, or they're buried somewhere 2096 01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.720 in Israel or whatever else because it turns out they 2097 01:50:15.720 --> 01:50:19.279 flipped to be a spy. And sometimes people have disappeared 2098 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:23.159 been presumed dead and guess what they you know, they 2099 01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:27.159 either sold out or were forced to sell out, you know, 2100 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:31.720 deep information to foreign nations. It's happened a little more 2101 01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:35.640 than people want to believe. Quite frankly, Jimmy, what are 2102 01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:38.000 your thoughts on that? Is that a possibility here in 2103 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:40.479 all this mess, some of the people that disappeared maybe 2104 01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:43.239 are somewhere else giving up information. 2105 01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:51.840 That's exactly what I fear. Oh quite frankfully. North Korea 2106 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:58.359 has been well known for abducting foreigners for the last 2107 01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:02.920 fifty sixty years, right, particularly Champian people. 2108 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:06.960 Well not only that, and yes, they they definitely snag 2109 01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:12.039 Japanese people constantly, seems like to me. And also you know, 2110 01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:16.560 South Koreans have been taken often, but you know, people 2111 01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:18.640 who don't belong to them, they'll snatch them up and 2112 01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:20.399 they'll I don't know what they do with them because 2113 01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:22.880 I never get all the information about it, but apparently 2114 01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:26.159 they've done it more than once. But you know, I 2115 01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.520 think people don't understand the variety of a spy you know, 2116 01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:34.279 games that go on here, not even just our our 2117 01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:38.279 direct adversaries, sometimes our own allies. Even you know, some 2118 01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:42.399 of the most aggressive spy programs that I've ever like examined, 2119 01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:46.119 you know, after the fact, came from places like Israel, 2120 01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:52.680 who you know, had heavy, heavy presence of you know, 2121 01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:55.720 espionage going on. They were digging into us where they're 2122 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:59.199 ally and they're not the only ones. There's been European 2123 01:51:59.279 --> 01:52:02.560 nations who have done to us, and you know, et cetera, 2124 01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:05.560 et cetera. So the truth is, you know, as much 2125 01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:07.560 as we'd like to point a China, and they are 2126 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:11.319 likely a suspect here because they have the infrastructure, they 2127 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:14.520 have the power, They have the ability to disappear people. 2128 01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:17.760 They have the ability to hide people with no problem. 2129 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:20.560 They have this separation, you know, the firewall, if you will, 2130 01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:24.000 where if somebody disappears in China, you could never you know, 2131 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.680 hear a peep from them again, or even discover a 2132 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:31.439 shred of DNA if you want. It doesn't matter. China 2133 01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:35.199 could easily take people and get whatever they want out 2134 01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:38.079 of them. What I'm saying is is that the options 2135 01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:41.680 are almost endless for this kind of thing, especially if 2136 01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:45.159 somebody's got some specialized information or they happen to have 2137 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:48.159 a particular skill set for a particular type of technology 2138 01:52:48.479 --> 01:52:53.239 that is desirable to adversaries and allies alike. This is 2139 01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:57.960 a vulnerability that you know, should not be. This is 2140 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.000 why they keep a lot of people under heavy secure 2141 01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:03.880 already when they're involved in these programs and things like that. 2142 01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:05.520 I mean, there are people that live half of their 2143 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:11.560 lives basically in isolation to avoid stuff like this, you know, 2144 01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:13.760 at the direction and at the care of our own 2145 01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:17.800 government sometimes and I think people fail to recognize how 2146 01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:19.920 deep that kind of stuff goes. Jimmy, do you think 2147 01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:24.279 I'm talking crazy? 2148 01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:30.960 No, You're correct in this instance, the things that are 2149 01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:35.319 going on, I just I keep it those to China 2150 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:38.000 on my mind. 2151 01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:37.600 Uh. 2152 01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:43.880 Even the Nancy Guctory case, there appears to be a 2153 01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:50.159 Hispanic fellow that does the kidnapping on the uh camera. 2154 01:53:51.319 --> 01:53:52.199 So well. 2155 01:53:52.399 --> 01:53:56.000 The Chinese, of course, have been working very closely with 2156 01:53:56.119 --> 01:53:59.680 the cartels for the last decade. Wow, so they could 2157 01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:03.199 very easily used cartels to do such a thing. 2158 01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:06.199 And there's yeah, the rest. 2159 01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:09.439 So well, and there's and there's been more than one 2160 01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:13.640 foreign nation, foreign actors, hackers, et cetera, who have dug 2161 01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:17.199 into various surveillance systems that people don't even consider would 2162 01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:20.279 be of use. For instance, you know like the ring 2163 01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:22.079 cams that people have on their homes. 2164 01:54:22.279 --> 01:54:24.039 Right. Well, look, if you. 2165 01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:27.079 Work in the intelligence community and you just so happen 2166 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:29.479 to have ring cameras at your house and stuff like 2167 01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:31.840 that for surveillance so that you know your neighbors don't 2168 01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:36.159 steal your freaking lawnmower or whatever. Uh, guess what people 2169 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:41.680 tap into those systems illegally unwanted uninvited, and all of 2170 01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:44.359 a sudden, they've got surveillance. They've got eyes on people 2171 01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:47.560 when they don't even realize it. Uh, you know, they 2172 01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:50.279 do the same thing by tapping into ISPs, They get 2173 01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:53.159 into your router, and they can follow cameras all over 2174 01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:55.399 your house that you happen to have on your you know, 2175 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:59.439 on your TV, on your laptops, on your phone, and 2176 01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:01.319 they can pick them all off as long as they're 2177 01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:05.479 tied into your network. And they've done this, you know, 2178 01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:08.079 on the civilian side of people that have you know, 2179 01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:12.479 either military or intel you know jobs. They've done this 2180 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:16.439 through the spouses, through the kids, straight up, just through 2181 01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:20.000 their you know, commercial use of things where they should 2182 01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:23.720 really you know, have completely secured you know, communications and 2183 01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:26.479 things like that. But not everything is secured, you know 2184 01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:28.880 what I mean. You might have your personal phone, your 2185 01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:32.439 personal computer, and they get at you all different ways. 2186 01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:35.840 I've seen these stories told and a lot of people think, 2187 01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:38.520 you know, it's just paranoid crap, but it's not. 2188 01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:41.319 It's real. This is going on like as we speak. 2189 01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:43.840 So again, Jimmy, if you want to correct me and 2190 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:44.960 call me crazy, go ahead. 2191 01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:55.920 No, I agree. There's some all the politics that we 2192 01:55:56.119 --> 01:56:00.720 see and get annoyed with. We we a new hat 2193 01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:03.920 to the paarapolitics, the stuff that we don't see. If 2194 01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:07.079 pray would drive us all bisserk exactly. 2195 01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:09.520 So, Jimmy, listen, we're coming close to the end of 2196 01:56:09.600 --> 01:56:12.479 time for tonight's show, so I want to give you 2197 01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:14.239 a chance to give a shout out. And then I 2198 01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:16.159 want to give a chance to Danny to give a 2199 01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.159 shout out here, you know, a final thought for the week, 2200 01:56:19.079 --> 01:56:22.079 but we will continue into next week and again, anybody 2201 01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:25.640 who makes a contribution, I'm being more than happy to 2202 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:27.239 first of all, give you a shout out all the 2203 01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:29.039 way up to next Friday on the show. 2204 01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:30.000 Whatever shows I do. 2205 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:33.720 Number one, number two, I will send you a personal 2206 01:56:33.760 --> 01:56:37.560 gift in the mail, something personalized to you one way 2207 01:56:37.640 --> 01:56:41.159 or another. And yeah, I'm doing that just to say 2208 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:44.720 thanks for contributing to this time period, which April is 2209 01:56:44.720 --> 01:56:47.399 the worst month for me, Bill's wise, keeping the network going, 2210 01:56:47.439 --> 01:56:47.880 et cetera. 2211 01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:48.880 I want to expand. 2212 01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:52.399 And besides that, as I reported on Twitter, and nobody 2213 01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:55.720 gave a crap. Nobody pays for the memberships at o'chelly 2214 01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:59.039 dot com anymore. And I offered if somebody wants to 2215 01:56:59.079 --> 01:57:02.439 throw fifty dollars toward that, I'll open up the entire 2216 01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:06.159 member section to the general public on your behalf, and 2217 01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:09.520 of course announce and think and tell everybody else they 2218 01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:10.720 need to thank you for doing so. 2219 01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:13.119 But any contribution is helpful. 2220 01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:16.319 The cash app allows me to pay some bills directly, 2221 01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:20.079 excuse me, and not have to transfer things around. But 2222 01:57:20.199 --> 01:57:23.399 however you do it, you're welcome to it. So please, 2223 01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:25.159 do I want to send you a personal thank you 2224 01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:27.720 if you give me a mailing address after you make 2225 01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:31.359 a donation, certainly, But there you go. I'm tired of 2226 01:57:31.399 --> 01:57:33.800 saying this, and we will be back next week with 2227 01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:36.239 the call in show. But until then, what is your 2228 01:57:36.279 --> 01:57:38.840 final thought for the week, Jimmy James. 2229 01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:44.880 Everyone out there would be very careful keep your eyes 2230 01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:49.960 up for Caddy Perry. She's out there, she's on the loose, 2231 01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:54.680 she's wanted for rape. She's a dangerous woman. 2232 01:57:55.079 --> 01:58:01.840 Katy Perry's won it for right. 2233 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:03.680 Another woman accused her. 2234 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:09.479 Wow, Joe, Wow, Okay, Jimmy, I did I had no idea. 2235 01:58:10.079 --> 01:58:13.039 Uh okay, I'm a little shocked, but that's fine. And 2236 01:58:13.119 --> 01:58:16.039 you know what, you should always have situational awareness and 2237 01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:21.880 uh you know, protect your neck, you know what I'm saying. Anyways, Danny, Uh, 2238 01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:24.560 I'm not afraid of Katy Perry, but some people are 2239 01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:25.760 and maybe they should be. 2240 01:58:26.119 --> 01:58:26.359 Uh. 2241 01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:27.920 Your final thought for the week. 2242 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:33.560 Uh, thank you for opening up an interesting subject. Uh 2243 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:37.920 is I've been reading it long here that general uh 2244 01:58:38.079 --> 01:58:43.319 seems to be connected to some this Monica Raisa from 2245 01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:48.840 uh GPL with the funding. It's an interesting topic. Thank 2246 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:51.279 you for gutter same topics that they need to do 2247 01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:52.239 a little more research. 2248 01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:57.119 Uh right, shout out to Jimmy's the piece and DP. 2249 01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:59.279 Yeah, let's go support. 2250 01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:02.800 The food banks and everybody out there listening help Chuck, 2251 01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:07.279 you know, jourmate, which can little a lot would be appreciated. 2252 01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:12.159 No, absolutely true, absolutely true. And Danny, just for the record, 2253 01:59:12.680 --> 01:59:15.000 be on the lookout in your mailbox because there's a 2254 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:17.359 little personal tank you that is showing up there at 2255 01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:21.159 some point and as as will be for anybody who 2256 01:59:21.159 --> 01:59:24.279 takes care of that this week and makes a you know, contribution. 2257 01:59:25.199 --> 01:59:27.399 If you give me a mailing address, I will certainly 2258 01:59:27.399 --> 01:59:28.640 mail you something that. 2259 01:59:28.600 --> 01:59:29.760 Only you will get in the mail. 2260 01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:33.000 Nobody is getting two things alike, except you may all 2261 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:35.159 get a note that says thank you with my signature 2262 01:59:35.159 --> 01:59:37.960 on it. That might be a common thing. But other 2263 01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:40.079 than that, what you get in the mail is only 2264 01:59:40.119 --> 01:59:44.039 for you, and be more than happy to send out 2265 01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:47.119 more thank you gifts if I get some more support. 2266 01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:50.000 So Danny, look, thank you for that very much. But 2267 01:59:50.039 --> 01:59:52.279 all credit goes to Jimmy James on this for bringing 2268 01:59:52.319 --> 01:59:54.960 it up and bringing it to my attention more because 2269 01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:56.760 I had seen it and sort of passed it by 2270 01:59:57.960 --> 01:59:59.640 because you know, who the hell can keep track of 2271 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:04.399 everything lately? It's impossible. But I appreciate you man, and 2272 02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:07.079 all of your sentiments. I echo them. Thank you for 2273 02:00:07.199 --> 02:00:10.560 calling in, Danny, and I now put you on hold. 2274 02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:13.439 And you know, BPTE your final word for the week, 2275 02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:13.960 my brother. 2276 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:18.960 Well, I just glad for Danny and Jimmy calling in, 2277 02:00:19.079 --> 02:00:22.079 and I'm glad that we could get some things taking 2278 02:00:22.119 --> 02:00:24.199 care of them paid off this month. Other than that, 2279 02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:28.359 you know, go to a Chelly dot com and hit 2280 02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:30.000 the cash app button. 2281 02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:31.279 Do it you can. 2282 02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:34.239 Every little bit helps and we'll see you next week. 2283 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:36.600 Yeah, absolutely, and look it is that look. 2284 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:38.279 I barely know how to use it, but if you 2285 02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:42.159 use cash app, it's dollar signed the Ocelly effect. You 2286 02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:45.359 capitalize the T, you capitalize the O, you capitalize the E. 2287 02:00:45.640 --> 02:00:47.079 I'm not sure if you even have to do that 2288 02:00:47.159 --> 02:00:50.079 because I barely use this thing, but they took away 2289 02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:53.760 almost everything else. So we have missus O's PayPal and 2290 02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:58.640 that to convey a donation. Otherwise, you know, contact me 2291 02:00:58.640 --> 02:01:00.720 if you want to mail something, I guess. But other 2292 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:02.960 than that, I mean, that's all I got, And I 2293 02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:05.079 appreciate those of you that did. As I said. I 2294 02:01:05.119 --> 02:01:07.680 gave shout outs already during the show more than once, 2295 02:01:07.680 --> 02:01:11.119 and I will do it again next week for the 2296 02:01:11.159 --> 02:01:13.319 people that did, and the people that you know, I 2297 02:01:13.359 --> 02:01:16.600 hope will, So there you go. In the meantime, I 2298 02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:20.119 am merely o'celly. All of you should be the effect 2299 02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:23.520 in one way or another. And look, you can support 2300 02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:26.359 by sharing the show. You can support by informing people 2301 02:01:26.399 --> 02:01:29.039 about it. You can support by a whole lot of 2302 02:01:29.079 --> 02:01:33.560 different ways, but every single way counts. And I appreciate 2303 02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:35.439 any of you that take the time to listen, whether 2304 02:01:35.479 --> 02:01:38.399 you're hearing us live or you know, later on with 2305 02:01:38.479 --> 02:01:42.720 the podcast. And we're hoping to expand things in twenty 2306 02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:46.000 twenty six, going into twenty twenty seven, and we'll deal 2307 02:01:46.039 --> 02:01:48.560 with next year when we get to April again. But 2308 02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:51.439 until then, like I said, no matter who you are 2309 02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:52.439 ready or where you are