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Speaker 4: So it's the seventeenth day of April twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Before I go any further, you know, I offered a
Speaker 4: thing out there that if you guys, nobody's been paid
Speaker 4: for memberships at the site now since July, I lost
Speaker 4: a lot of revenue. And July is my you know,
Speaker 4: PayPal deactivation time. Matter of fact, the funny thing is
Speaker 4: they did it to me on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3: I believe. But anyways, you know, here here it is,
Speaker 3: And I said, you know, nobody's paid for memberships over there.
Speaker 4: And tell you what, I'll open the memberships to the
Speaker 4: whole public if somebody kicks in fifty bucks. And you
Speaker 4: know what, I got zero responses, zero retweets or reposts
Speaker 4: or anything, and nobody stepped up to do it.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's out there.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll just cancel all the memberships and I don't know,
Speaker 4: hide more stuff behind the paywall until somebody asked me about.
Speaker 3: Paying for it again. I guess anyway, it is what
Speaker 3: it is. It was what it was, and I'm still
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 4: So I've got my cash app link out there and
Speaker 4: missus O's PayPal at lunar Rosa candles. If you want
Speaker 4: to contribute to well my well being, then that works,
Speaker 4: continuation and all of that. Now, this week, I have
Speaker 4: been thanking some people, and I do have a very
Speaker 4: short list of individuals that did kick in at some
Speaker 4: point recently. So I just want to note that, first
Speaker 4: of all, my cost did that. Secondly, Ed from out
Speaker 4: West did that, Danny from CALLI did that, and of
Speaker 4: course let's see regular Joe tossed in a couple of
Speaker 4: bucks as well. Now regular Joe was mia last night.
Speaker 4: I was going to go live with him and bring
Speaker 4: him back because he's having an interesting musical career right now,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to talk to everybody about it and
Speaker 4: tell you how well he's doing. He barely has time
Speaker 4: to listen to the show and talks to me every
Speaker 4: once in a while off air. But Joe's a great
Speaker 4: guy and I want to check in with him and
Speaker 4: see how it goes. His band is called White Trash,
Speaker 4: I believe, and uh yeah, they're they're in Kentucky and
Speaker 4: they're doing pretty good.
Speaker 3: So I want to talk to.
Speaker 4: Him, maybe play some tracks or play some audio some
Speaker 4: kind on the show. Oh but I couldn't find him
Speaker 4: last night, So it is what it is. Anyway, anybody
Speaker 4: can call in three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 4: zero one six. And now that I'm done with that
Speaker 4: and we actually started on time, b Pete, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good, but I'm a little ticked off right now.
Speaker 2: Just found out a show I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: go see down your Way in August has been canceled.
Speaker 4: M okay, well what kind of show? And uh what
Speaker 4: We're you gonna go to Atlanta? Because you know, we
Speaker 4: do have this performance center here in Macon. Were you
Speaker 4: gonna come down to Macon or Atlanta?
Speaker 2: No, it's a State Farm Arena where the Hawks play
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Oh okay, but it was the North American
Speaker 2: part of uh Idol's tour from Korea. And they've played
Speaker 2: Atlanta twice, I believe, and had a pretty good turnout.
Speaker 2: But from what I'm seeing on Twitter, and I'm at
Speaker 2: the State Farm Arita now and I can't get their
Speaker 2: damn concerts up. Apparently everything has been canceled. Ooh and
Speaker 2: State Fam Arena doesn't show anything past May nineteenth. This
Speaker 2: is supposed to be in August.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, well yeah, let me calendar.
Speaker 4: When I lived in Jersey, we had the PNC Bank
Speaker 4: Art Center. It was called at one point, but previously
Speaker 4: to PNC Bank slap and its name on it, it
Speaker 4: was just called the Garden State Arts Center or the
Speaker 4: New Jersey Arts Center.
Speaker 3: In Home Deel, New Jersey.
Speaker 4: Home Del's a weird place in Jersey. It's like actually
Speaker 4: a split town. It's like in four places on the map,
Speaker 4: really really weird town. But anyway, part of it has
Speaker 4: this arena type you know, art center outdoors pretty cool
Speaker 4: and everything. Now most people bought their tickets from like,
Speaker 4: you know, Ticketmaster or what was the other thing? There
Speaker 4: was Ticketmaster and Ticketron. I don't know if ticket tron
Speaker 4: is still exist, but Ticketmasters they.
Speaker 2: Got bought out. But now it's it's uh Ticketmaster and
Speaker 2: Live Nation.
Speaker 3: Oh, Live Nation, right, I've heard that a lot. Live Nation.
Speaker 4: But like they handle tickets for everything, ticket tron or
Speaker 4: not ticket Tron ticket ticket Master excuse me, uh ticket
Speaker 4: in the past again, but yeah, they handle tickets for everything.
Speaker 4: But I used to be able to buy my tickets
Speaker 4: from the art centers, uh, for you know, for shows
Speaker 4: I wanted to go to. And most of the time,
Speaker 4: I mean they had a lot of the major tours
Speaker 4: and a lot of the uh like older artists that
Speaker 4: could no longer fill a stadium, but they were like
Speaker 4: just a step down from stadium, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: And also they had osbest there every year. But I
Speaker 4: could buy my tickets straight from the art center. Can
Speaker 4: you buy them from or did they just flat out cancel?
Speaker 4: Or can you buy tickets from the uh what did
Speaker 4: you call it? The State Farm?
Speaker 2: Good? Yeah, I can you can go there. It says
Speaker 2: events and tickets and has got their stuff listed that's
Speaker 2: coming up for the next two months. But when you
Speaker 2: go to their calendar in August, they've got Mumford and
Speaker 2: Sons listed on the fourth, but on the eighth they've
Speaker 2: got nothing. And this has been announced. Oh crap, it's
Speaker 2: been announced two months of all the dates. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're gonna hit Texas, Atlanta, California, Philly, I.
Speaker 5: Think, you know.
Speaker 2: So they they had a like a ten stop North
Speaker 2: American tour. This will be their third time they've come over,
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden everything is canceled.
Speaker 4: So like a major city airport kind of tour where
Speaker 4: you know, any place that has a travel hub. Uh,
Speaker 4: they're gonna stop in you know, like you said, New York, Philly. Right,
Speaker 4: they probably do Chicago, they would do La they might
Speaker 4: do Las Vegas, they do Dallas, then they'd go and
Speaker 4: swing around to Atlanta, that kind of thing. Maybe they circle,
Speaker 4: you know, make a circle around the country. But either way,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely major travel hub tour. And all
Speaker 4: they had was ten dates for this what is it
Speaker 4: called it? I'm sorry, I'm not up on the.
Speaker 2: Well, they're doing a world tour. They've already started. They
Speaker 2: went to they went to Taiwan, they went to Bangkok.
Speaker 2: They're going getting ready to go to Australia. I think
Speaker 2: they're going to do one in Japan, and then they
Speaker 2: they always break up. They do North American tour, then
Speaker 2: they have some Sometimes they'll hit a couple of cities
Speaker 2: like uh, well Mexico would be yeah. See, they had
Speaker 2: one scheduled here. They were supposed to go to Hamilton, Ontario, Newark,
Speaker 2: New Jersey, Philly, Atlanta, Orlando, San Antonio, Mexico City, Los Angeles, Oakland,
Speaker 2: and finish in Seattle. Okay, all of that's been canceled.
Speaker 4: Well that's a little more than the major hubs. Then
Speaker 4: that's actually a full blown you know, many city tour.
Speaker 4: It's not like going to every state.
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, okay, good, yeah, it's I mean, and
Speaker 6: what they've done from the first tour to the second tour,
Speaker 6: you know, they had planned cities and the second tour,
Speaker 6: this tour, they concentrated on the cities where they do
Speaker 6: excellent on ticket sales.
Speaker 2: They're guaranteed to fill in, you know, an arena. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's how. But they added Ontario this year. They've
Speaker 2: been to Mexico City before with Music Bank, which is
Speaker 2: a Korean entertainment like network, TV station blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But they will put on concerts all over the world.
Speaker 2: They did one in Mexico City two years ago and
Speaker 2: Idol played in that show as part of Music Bank,
Speaker 2: and that's just to bring K pop artists to different
Speaker 2: parts of the world that they don't normally would go
Speaker 2: to on a regular tour. So, I mean they came
Speaker 2: to Mexico City and they just cleaned house. You know,
Speaker 2: they had an excellent show. So they added it to
Speaker 2: the North American tour this year really and it would
Speaker 2: be successful.
Speaker 4: So they all the Yeah, so they went to all
Speaker 4: the major places where they knew they could sell out.
Speaker 4: This time, they planned those out and they've added more.
Speaker 4: But what the last time they were in Mexico City,
Speaker 4: what you're saying is it was sort of like, you know,
Speaker 4: an MTV tour when MTV cared about music, remember that
Speaker 4: they used to have. I mean, they had the Warped tour,
Speaker 4: but they had other tours that were like the MTV
Speaker 4: tours that got artists to go on tour that didn't
Speaker 4: necessarily have their own tour. Apparatus individually, but they would
Speaker 4: go out in groups, you know, like I said, like
Speaker 4: Warped and all that stuff when it was still big,
Speaker 4: and then they added other attractions to it. But so
Speaker 4: you're saying they did something like that, but this time
Speaker 4: they were probably just coming through on their own because
Speaker 4: on their own strength, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've they've done They've had their last
Speaker 2: two tours here were successful. I mean, you know they
Speaker 2: were they sold tickets, they filled places, so a very
Speaker 2: successful tour and it's been two years since they've been here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it's disappointing, especially since we
Speaker 2: find out from people getting messages from who have bought
Speaker 2: tickets that the show has been canceled and information for refunds,
Speaker 2: but no announcement from Cube Entertainment or from idol okay,
Speaker 2: and they both have I mean, they both have Twitter accounts.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The least they could do is put some word out
Speaker 2: there when you cancel ten cities in North America.
Speaker 4: Hmm, okay, and and you follow all their stuff, so
Speaker 4: they haven't.
Speaker 3: It's not like you missed.
Speaker 2: Something or anything, right, Yeah, it would have come up
Speaker 2: in the seed.
Speaker 3: Are they one of the you know, just just got
Speaker 3: of curiosity.
Speaker 4: I mean, is it possible that they are being told
Speaker 4: by some other entity they're being canceled and they haven't
Speaker 4: gotten to it yet.
Speaker 3: Is that a possibility or.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: They just showed the listings off of ticket I think
Speaker 2: it's a off ticket Master, and at one time they
Speaker 2: showed eight out of ten canceled, and then somebody came
Speaker 2: back with an update they just get the only two
Speaker 2: that were left was one of the was the Atlanta
Speaker 2: show and another one. So thought, oh okay, well maybe
Speaker 2: they're changing their schedule and at least they'll get Atlanta.
Speaker 2: But no, now it's not even on the calendar at
Speaker 2: State Farm Arena.
Speaker 3: Hum, well, that's definitely weird.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean obviously my
Speaker 4: information is kind of outdated on a lot of this
Speaker 4: stuff because I haven't gone to shows in a long
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 2: Well, there was just people are asking questions. This has
Speaker 2: got something to do with the lawsuit at Live Nation
Speaker 2: and ticket Mester just got nailed with on galluting people
Speaker 2: for tickets, extra fees and things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I was just thinking actually that you know, Kid
Speaker 4: Rock went to Trump at some point and was actually
Speaker 4: beefing about this, and I don't know, you know, if
Speaker 4: it's got anything to do with this lawsuit, but he
Speaker 4: was asking in the first Trump administration for help, you know,
Speaker 4: getting this addressed because he felt like, you know, his
Speaker 4: fans are being ripped off and whatever else, you know,
Speaker 4: and obviously a lot of people were going to you know,
Speaker 4: Trump for favors and such.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: A big one, it says here says the US Department
Speaker 2: of Justice and forty States filed an anti trust lawsuit
Speaker 2: against Live Nation Entertainment and Ticketmaster, alleging that they have
Speaker 2: unlawfully monopolized the live event market, harming consumers and artists.
Speaker 2: The lawsuit seeks to restore competition and improving the ticketing
Speaker 2: experience for fans and performers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wrote about this just the other day.
Speaker 4: Right, And that has been a major complaint for a while,
Speaker 4: is that. Look, you know, Ticketmaster is charging a lot
Speaker 4: of money, and the amount that's actually come back right
Speaker 4: you know, to the artist is not you know, it
Speaker 4: doesn't make a lot of sense. Like Ticketmasters is making
Speaker 4: a fortune off of everybody's tickets. And they've had some
Speaker 4: other unfair practice issues where you know, some people. I mean,
Speaker 4: it used to be you had to go to a
Speaker 4: machine and somebody would literally have to print out the
Speaker 4: ticket on a machine, right, an official ticket master machine,
Speaker 4: like a lottery machine almost.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what.
Speaker 4: It's like now with the digital age. I mean, things
Speaker 4: are crazy. Things happen faster, you know. And there's there's
Speaker 4: been a couple of different scandals with you know, bootleg
Speaker 4: tickets being made and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But here's the lowdown on the court case. It says
Speaker 2: the lawsuit was officially filed in May of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four US District Court for the Southern District of New York.
Speaker 2: The trial began on March second, twenty twenty six, and
Speaker 2: a settlement was reached shortly after on March ninth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. However, the lawsuit's core claims continue to be litigated.
Speaker 2: Some of the details in the agreement is live. Nation
Speaker 2: has agreed to several changes, including divesting exclusive booking of
Speaker 2: agreements with amphitheaters, capping ticket service fees, and fifteen percent
Speaker 2: allowing venues to distribute tickets to other primary ticketing marketplaces. Right,
Speaker 2: and there's an eight year extension on the consent degree
Speaker 2: with the DOJ, So they'll be watching them for eight years.
Speaker 2: And that's about all of the details I've got so far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now see, there's your major problems though, is that
Speaker 4: they were going above fifteen percent. They were gouging people, man,
Speaker 4: I mean it was a little brutal. Like if you're
Speaker 4: paying twenty percent of your ticket. I know it might
Speaker 4: not sound like much to some people, but on one
Speaker 4: hundred dollars ticket, you know, if off the top twenty
Speaker 4: of that goes to Ticketmaster, plus you have to get
Speaker 4: it through Ticketmaster or whatever, you know, it gives them
Speaker 4: like an exclusivity. That's a little unfair because the venue themselves,
Speaker 4: Like I told you before we went to air I
Speaker 4: used to be able to buy stuff from the venue itself,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if you know, if you could
Speaker 4: even do that anymore.
Speaker 5: They do well, they what they have done.
Speaker 2: I've noticed this on some places the venue will contract
Speaker 2: with Live Nation, okay, or the venue will contract with
Speaker 2: ticketman Master, So even if you go to the arena
Speaker 2: and buy them there, then you're still it's directing you
Speaker 2: to a Ticketmaster section of their website and you're actually
Speaker 2: transacting through Ticketmaster or Live nation one or the other.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know that's fine and dandy.
Speaker 4: But on the other hand, I read stories a few
Speaker 4: years back about how they weren't allowing like if somebody
Speaker 4: wanted to do a cheap show, Like let's just say,
Speaker 4: you know, you're at a fairground and you wanted to
Speaker 4: charge ten bucks a ticket, and you want to get
Speaker 4: a massive audience in there, and you want to give
Speaker 4: people a cheap show, and that's you know, that's like
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four club price for ten bucks.
Speaker 3: It's a door charge, right.
Speaker 4: If you wanted to do that, Like, Ticketmaster wouldn't allow it,
Speaker 4: Like they would not allow you to discount your ticket,
Speaker 4: even if they are going to take their percentage, because
Speaker 4: it then becomes like a big old pain in the
Speaker 4: neck for them because they're like complaining about the credit
Speaker 4: cards or whatever, because you know, everything's got to be
Speaker 4: done digitally, so it's all credit and debit cards and
Speaker 4: PayPal and whatnot. So you know, they were like, well,
Speaker 4: we're not going to let you charge too little for
Speaker 4: your shows. You know, like if you wanted to make
Speaker 4: a general admission for twenty five bucks or whatever up
Speaker 4: to a certain capacity, they wouldn't let you do it
Speaker 4: because it was too small, you know, like Okay, in
Speaker 4: Jersey again they would play and they would you know,
Speaker 4: concerts would happen in Giants Stadium, so you had an
Speaker 4: option where they're seating all around Giants Stadium. But then
Speaker 4: they could like let you know, the field be open,
Speaker 4: right obviously not during football season because it would probably
Speaker 4: take it forever to repair it after you know, concert
Speaker 4: goes destroyed the joint, right, But but like you couldn't.
Speaker 4: It was like difficult to get them to agree to
Speaker 4: let you sort of fill the football.
Speaker 2: Field with people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, it was like either put in seating
Speaker 4: so that we can assign it or otherwise you can't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 4: And oz festk got away with it because you know,
Speaker 4: first of all, was Sharon Osborne and she was representing
Speaker 4: you know, twenty artists going to play, right, so you
Speaker 4: know it's an all day event. They had a little
Speaker 4: more muscle behind them.
Speaker 3: But if you were like an.
Speaker 4: Individual and you had like an independent booking agent or whatever,
Speaker 4: and you know you had your own people, apparently Ticketmaster
Speaker 4: was like dictating way too many terms to people's events.
Speaker 3: And don't forget.
Speaker 4: They don't just do big events. I mean they sell
Speaker 4: tickets to comedy shows and everything. I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: know if they do movies. I think that's only what
Speaker 4: is that fandango or does that still exist? Just bean diego,
Speaker 4: I haven't want a ticket that way.
Speaker 3: Either at all.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I haven't been to a movie. I have
Speaker 2: not been to a movie theater since Passion of the
Speaker 2: Christ was out.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, so even longer than me. I mean
Speaker 4: it's been many years for me too. But I just
Speaker 4: I would show up at a movie theater and buy
Speaker 4: a ticket. And that's the other thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of concert venues used to be able to.
Speaker 4: Just show up right and they would have tickets at
Speaker 4: the box office.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't sold out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it wasn't sold out, you can get them
Speaker 2: at the door.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But you know, and sometimes listen, you were rolling the
Speaker 4: dice because you know, maybe the place did sell out
Speaker 4: even though they didn't announce on the radio or whatever,
Speaker 4: that you know, the show you.
Speaker 3: Wanted to see has sold out.
Speaker 4: But sometimes right up close to showtime, you could actually
Speaker 4: get a good deal because these guys would go listen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'd rather sell a fifty dollars ticket for twenty bucks
Speaker 4: than nothing, So they would say.
Speaker 2: No discount tickets, Yeah, go ahead. Yeah that When ticket
Speaker 2: tron was was still in business, there were shoes where
Speaker 2: these people. When they first went with online ticket sales
Speaker 2: in the late nineties early two thousands, people were complaining
Speaker 2: that they would wait in a queue to get tickets
Speaker 2: and the best tickets would be sold because they weren't
Speaker 2: limiting the number of tickets, and scalpers would buy you
Speaker 2: one hundred seats and if you wanted your ticket, you
Speaker 2: went down to the venue the day of the concert
Speaker 2: and you had to start dealing with scalpers. And now
Speaker 2: they've got the resale markets on. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I think ticket Master it's one of them, has got
Speaker 2: a resale market there. So they're making money off letting
Speaker 2: people buy groups of tickets. Then they're getting another cut
Speaker 2: when the person resells the ticket.
Speaker 5: There was a court case a few years back.
Speaker 2: I forget who was sue and who, but it was
Speaker 2: over that resale that people were selling tickets. You know,
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift goes on, tickets get sold out in a
Speaker 2: matter of two minutes, you know online, right and then
Speaker 2: the resale market starts. So you have people are that
Speaker 2: would normally pay one hundred dollars for a ticket that
Speaker 2: are now paying five thousand dollars for a ticket. Oh
Speaker 2: and the company that was doing that was they were
Speaker 2: getting it twice. They were getting their percentage off the
Speaker 2: initial sale, then they were getting a higher percentage off
Speaker 2: the resale, so they were promoting resale. So they had
Speaker 2: a reason to sell somebody two hundred tickets to the Swatch.
Speaker 4: Right, And it really became a problem because they doubled
Speaker 4: up on their money at the source. Plus the consumer
Speaker 4: would wind up going on like eBay or something, or
Speaker 4: one of these other things like a stub hub or
Speaker 4: there's a couple of different resale services where you know, hey,
Speaker 4: just tell us what event you want to go to,
Speaker 4: we might have tickets for you, right, And it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter if it's a you know, a sporting event or
Speaker 4: it's a concert or whatever. Some of those places are
Speaker 4: designed for people to sell their own tickets, right, And
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be an individual who's like, you know, listen,
Speaker 4: I got two tickets to this, or I got five
Speaker 4: tickets to this, and turns out I can't go right,
Speaker 4: so you know, like you don't want to cut that
Speaker 4: guy off from reselling them, but not at a like,
Speaker 4: you know, five hundred times profit or whatever. You know,
Speaker 4: one hundred dollar ticket, like you said, could be five
Speaker 4: grand by the time you get it.
Speaker 3: And that's why I heard these horror stories about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people paid sixteen hundred dollars to go to a concert,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, I don't think there is a
Speaker 4: concert I would pay sixteen hundred freaking dollars to go see.
Speaker 4: But okay, you know, even if I had it to spend,
Speaker 4: which I don't, which is why I'm you know, asking
Speaker 4: you guys to contribute to my well being, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not going to spend it on a concert ticket. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you that.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what else I forgot to mention is
Speaker 4: that I am sending out little thank you gifts to
Speaker 4: the handful of supporters who do kick in at this time.
Speaker 3: I'm going to extend that in the next.
Speaker 4: Week if anybody does bother to kick in, because I
Speaker 4: appreciate it, and I want to send everybody a very simple,
Speaker 4: customized present in the mail, Okay, And That's what I've
Speaker 4: been doing. B Pete kind of has a hit about
Speaker 4: it because he's got one on his way. But I
Speaker 4: don't want him to talk about it because I want
Speaker 4: you guys to be surprised by what it is I
Speaker 4: send you. And so I'm sending little gifts even physically
Speaker 4: in the mail and giving shout outs on the show
Speaker 4: to everybody who's supporting me at this time, all the
Speaker 4: way into next week. I'll keep that up up until
Speaker 4: the Friday night live show. And that's the way it
Speaker 4: is anyways. And you got to give me your address
Speaker 4: so I can mail it to you. Even if I
Speaker 4: had your address in the past, I probably don't have
Speaker 4: it anymore because I don't store people's information purposely, So
Speaker 4: you know, you'll have to make a donation and provide
Speaker 4: me with the mailing address that's valid, and I will
Speaker 4: mail something to you. And you know I've had troubles
Speaker 4: in the past, like mailing stuff to Jimmy James, but
Speaker 4: and and Jimmy, even though you didn't contribute recently, I
Speaker 4: did send you a little something in the mail. Anyway,
Speaker 4: it's on its way, so hopefully it gets there, because
Speaker 4: I don't know you've missed out before. But anybody else
Speaker 4: who wants something like that yeah, you got to make
Speaker 4: a contribution like now between now and next next Friday,
Speaker 4: which would be what the twenty fourth of April. Okay,
Speaker 4: So anyway back to it though, it's a whole maze
Speaker 4: of problems though, where there's all these middlemen getting involved
Speaker 4: when you have an artist that you know, does their thing, They've.
Speaker 3: Got their people, they've got their tour group. Whatever. It's
Speaker 3: a show, it's a combined show. It's a festival.
Speaker 4: I mean it's the you know, the Rolling Stones for
Speaker 4: the eightieth time whatever, or it's a comedy festival, or
Speaker 4: it's a Is there any other like music.
Speaker 3: Festivals that are touring at this point? I don't even know.
Speaker 2: No. And see that's just it. Idol had had scheduled
Speaker 2: to come here to They're still scheduled to play Lollapaloosa
Speaker 2: in Chicago in July and then they were going to
Speaker 2: kick off start there, go from Chicago up to Ontario
Speaker 2: and start their tour and loop around the US all
Speaker 2: the way back up to Washington State and go so nice.
Speaker 4: Okay, well oh well yeah, I mean I have you know,
Speaker 4: I know nothing about the music, but you know, be
Speaker 4: pizza into K pop stuff, so he knows about it.
Speaker 4: But you know, frankly, there just hasn't been too many
Speaker 4: people touring that I wanted to see. I wanted to
Speaker 4: see Kevin Smith's tour like a couple of years ago,
Speaker 4: and there was like a VIP package and he was
Speaker 4: going to like do the premiere of Clerks three and
Speaker 4: uh and and do a live for you know, appearance
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta. But by the time I even like
Speaker 4: approached being able to, like I looked at the cost
Speaker 4: of it. It was too much and I'd have to
Speaker 4: travel well to Atlanta and everything else.
Speaker 3: I didn't go. Somebody offered to buy me a ticket,
Speaker 3: but never did it. So what was I gonna do?
Speaker 4: You know, I would love to see And we have
Speaker 4: a performing arts place here for like, you know, probably
Speaker 4: like CE tier musicians in making because you know, they've
Speaker 4: actually worked on this arena over here or whatever. It's
Speaker 4: called some sort of performance center in town, which is interesting.
Speaker 4: And if anything ever comes near me and goes to
Speaker 4: that performance center, I'll be happy to check in on it.
Speaker 3: But you know, anyway, Springsteen is touring.
Speaker 2: He Springsteen, Bruce Springsteen is touring, and I've read a
Speaker 2: couple of negative reviews about his show where you know,
Speaker 2: for two and a half hours he wants to lecture
Speaker 2: everybody on politics between every song, and people are just
Speaker 2: getting tired of It's like, look, you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: come here for this. We came here to see, you know,
Speaker 2: see Bruce Springsteen perform. So that's kind of ruffled some feathers,
Speaker 2: especially at the prices that he's charging.
Speaker 3: Shut up and play Glory Days, Your bastard pretty much right.
Speaker 2: You know, really I can hear yeah, your bastard.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Okay, let's listen.
Speaker 4: These these guys, they get full of themselves with you know,
Speaker 4: I don't even care what Springsteen's politics are, but dude,
Speaker 4: you know, and nobody wants to hear it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: If you want to do that, you hold a political event,
Speaker 4: not a concert, you know what I mean. Hold a
Speaker 4: political event, see if people will buy tickets for that.
Speaker 4: You go on a lecture tour exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's true.
Speaker 2: You don't do it in the middle of my concert,
Speaker 2: you know, because I would get up and walk out
Speaker 2: and demand my money back as soon as I get
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the thing is you'll never get your money back,
Speaker 4: so you either Yeah, you're either gonna sit there and
Speaker 4: take it, or you're gonna leave and miss out on
Speaker 4: something you'll be paid for anyway. Now, is he affected
Speaker 4: by this Ticketmaster issue?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 5: I hope so?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I hope so.
Speaker 2: I hope you have to. I hope you have to
Speaker 2: refund the bunch of money because they've been gouging people
Speaker 2: on tickets for too damn long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but see out look, in this case, it's not
Speaker 4: the artist's fault, though. It's there's a whole industry designed to,
Speaker 4: you know, bend you over when it comes to concert tickets,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's been there.
Speaker 2: Pertective artissess the price. But that's just it though in
Speaker 2: these nowadays, the way artists are, especially people like spring
Speaker 2: Steen has been around forever and can charge a premium charge,
Speaker 2: it's they set the price. In fact, Taylor Swift got
Speaker 2: in a big argument with someone or maybe it was
Speaker 2: Live Nation, about the pricing on her shows and she said, no,
Speaker 2: I want to keep it down to here, she says,
Speaker 2: because you know the resale market they're going to be
Speaker 2: up to here, so I want to keep them as
Speaker 2: low as possible. And they almost didn't come to an
Speaker 2: agreement on her last tour. From what I understand, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was trying to keep the price down right.
Speaker 4: So when you say artists control the prices, I did
Speaker 4: agree they don't because these organizations will turn around and
Speaker 4: push against them that they want to see. That's what
Speaker 4: Kid Rock was complaining about, is that if he wanted
Speaker 4: to do a cheap tour, they wouldn't allow it. Like
Speaker 4: it was like not possible to get it done. So,
Speaker 4: you know, the artists try to set the price, you know,
Speaker 4: they make a suggestion, but ultimately that industry screws it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well that also depends on who which record company they're
Speaker 2: contracted to. A lot of times it's the record company
Speaker 2: that won't allow him to do the cheap tour.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean.
Speaker 5: It's a mix of things.
Speaker 2: Not everybody controls every aspect of it, but the artist
Speaker 2: does have a lot of pull on what the price
Speaker 2: is going to be. Now they're gonna set the artist
Speaker 2: knows how much they've got to pull per ticket sale
Speaker 2: to make the concert successful because they don't want to
Speaker 2: lose money. But then you've got the record company that
Speaker 2: throws their pre on there. You've got the ticket company
Speaker 2: that throws their premium on there. You've got the venue
Speaker 2: that throws their premium on there because they got to
Speaker 2: clean up all this crap. When everybody's left, everybody has
Speaker 2: to make a profit. And unfortunately, when you throw that
Speaker 2: snowball together, it's so damn big sometimes that that's why
Speaker 2: you're paying three four hundred dollars for a ticket.
Speaker 4: Crazy, right, But the thing is that theoretically, if an
Speaker 4: artist wanted to do like a break even kind of tour,
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like they're allowed to, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, because everybody by the time all that addition
Speaker 4: has had and some of it's unfair. Look, everybody deserves
Speaker 4: the you know, to be able to make some money
Speaker 4: and be able to pay their expenses, for sure, anybody
Speaker 4: who's involved. Although, to be honest with you, a lot
Speaker 4: of times in the music industry that used to go
Speaker 4: south on a lot of different people, and it just
Speaker 4: seemed like only certain people were allowed to make money.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you.
Speaker 4: But the funny thing is that even though if you
Speaker 4: wanted to, you couldn't even do break even on a tour,
Speaker 4: or even if I wanted to lose money. Let's just
Speaker 4: say I've gotten. I mean, Springsteen's got enough money if
Speaker 4: he wanted to, he could do a lose money tour,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like not a lot. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying the guy should go broke, but I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, if the guy lost a couple million dollars
Speaker 4: over his tour, it wouldn't exactly make him homeless, That's
Speaker 4: all I'm saying. And if he felt like doing that,
Speaker 4: I don't think he's capable of it because of the
Speaker 4: way the system is like not even close, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So the system is not good, and
Speaker 4: certain people have gone and you know, made themselves fat
Speaker 4: off of it, as opposed to just trying to be
Speaker 4: you know, there's reasonable business and price gouging just sucks
Speaker 4: because I mean, you know, it's sort of like what happens,
Speaker 4: you know, after a natural disaster and somebody starts charging
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars for a gallon of.
Speaker 3: Water, you know what I mean. They do that.
Speaker 4: Because they can, and I despise that. I've always despise it.
Speaker 4: It's like, let's just profit off of people because they're
Speaker 4: in a position where you know, I'm the only one
Speaker 4: who's got something they want or need. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I just always find that despicable. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, look, you can always just choose not to engage,
Speaker 4: but you know, not a wide enough boycott ever occurs
Speaker 4: to stop the price gougers. It seems like, you know
Speaker 4: that that is the only It's the other thing that
Speaker 4: I'm always against with the Libertarians. It's like it's unfair stuff.
Speaker 3: They'll just take it to core. Yeah. Good.
Speaker 5: It's like Gordon Gekko said, greed is good.
Speaker 2: And that's what they operate off of a lot of
Speaker 2: these companies that get in it while they can get
Speaker 2: it because they know there's going to come a day
Speaker 2: where they can't get it, so they go get it now.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh by the way they.
Speaker 2: Have it, they have the addicts have the attitude of
Speaker 2: I got mine, you worry about getting yours.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: I meant to ask you actually because you're like my
Speaker 4: fast food guy, right, you eat fast food more often
Speaker 4: than anybody I know. So I got to ask you
Speaker 4: something because I read articles leading up to the month
Speaker 4: of April, and now we are, you know, more than
Speaker 4: halfway through the month, and in April, right, the company
Speaker 4: that you know, handles McDonald's and the Pepsi company. We're
Speaker 4: both supposed to be lowering prices in April and offering
Speaker 4: cheaper options and things like this at the fast food joints, right,
Speaker 4: especially McDonald's. I have not checked the prices, and I
Speaker 4: haven't asked.
Speaker 2: That I've been to McDonald's. But now I don't have
Speaker 2: been to McDonald's since I quit work, So it's been
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: But even then it was so expensive that I quit
Speaker 2: going to McDonald's. Bojangles has come down on some of
Speaker 2: their prices. A lot of the local restaurants in the
Speaker 2: past two years have gone up, but they're starting to
Speaker 2: shave them back down now. So I don't know where
Speaker 2: they found the relief from, because grocery serre is ling cheaper,
Speaker 2: right So, but McDonald's, from one understand, have about price
Speaker 2: themselves out of the damn market. Yeah, got that. That
Speaker 2: was Pepsi. Pepsi owns KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, a
Speaker 2: couple other restaurants.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pizza Huts are closing.
Speaker 3: No, I just know that though, Yeah, I just know that.
Speaker 4: Almost at exactly the same time, the shareholders for McDonald's
Speaker 4: and the shareholders for Pepsi, which by the way, isn't
Speaker 4: just those fast food restaurants, but there's a whole line
Speaker 4: of snack foods and everything else. They were all saying that, listen,
Speaker 4: we have priced ourselves into a position where we've lost
Speaker 4: a serious part of our customer base. We need to
Speaker 4: figure out a way to bring it down, and we're
Speaker 4: going to introduce new pricing options and cuts and prices
Speaker 4: in April.
Speaker 3: That is what they.
Speaker 4: Said on their you know, stockholder meetings, which is not
Speaker 4: something they like to tell their stockholders. Believe me, uh
Speaker 4: you know, because look, McDonald's is the corporations still going
Speaker 4: to profit even if they cut their prices in half.
Speaker 3: They're going to be all right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If they cut the bag of Dorito's price in half,
Speaker 4: it'll still be okay for the for freedo l a
Speaker 4: A lah whatever. You know what I'm saying, they'll be
Speaker 4: fine and the stockholders will be fine. Their profit margins
Speaker 4: will come down, but they'll still profit.
Speaker 3: But they don't do that.
Speaker 4: Usually they push it all the way, you know, to
Speaker 4: what they think is tolerance.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what they're good.
Speaker 2: One of the worst things I've seen is damn Doritos.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the cost of a bag of Dorito's
Speaker 2: here lately? Yes, looking at seven damn dollars in places.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know.
Speaker 2: That's half a bag of air.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know.
Speaker 4: You know the little ninety nine cent bags that used
Speaker 4: to be around, they're like three bucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't eat.
Speaker 4: My son loves Doritos and usually I, you know, grab
Speaker 4: a few, we get the cool ranch, I get some,
Speaker 4: he eats the rest. I gotta tell you, I'm not
Speaker 4: buying them the Doritos. It's too damn expensive. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like almost eight bucks for a freaking decent sized bag
Speaker 4: of Doritos.
Speaker 5: No, you know, just still getting half a bag of hair.
Speaker 4: Yes, well listen, even if it was a full bag,
Speaker 4: screw your eight dollars.
Speaker 3: Dude, I can't do it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No eight bucks.
Speaker 4: It's eight bucks for a bag of chips. Seriously, I
Speaker 4: mean they're not that good.
Speaker 5: No, they're not. Well, I don't know them.
Speaker 2: Those those what sweet and spicy in the purple bag?
Speaker 3: Okay, you like.
Speaker 4: See, I just like the cool ranch and and the
Speaker 4: best thing is to take the cool ranch and dipped mints,
Speaker 4: some freaking sour cream and onion dip. I love that,
Speaker 4: But fact is, I don't love it that much. I
Speaker 4: ain't paying eight bucks. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know my my son likes my son likes Yeah,
Speaker 4: my son likes Doctor Pepper too, but he ain't getting it.
Speaker 4: He's getting doctor choice right now. That's literally the label
Speaker 4: I'm under. It's like the one of those best choice briands.
Speaker 4: He's getting doctor choice when I buy him a bottle
Speaker 4: of soda. Now you know, I don't buy him much,
Speaker 4: but when I do, I ain't paying Doctor Pepper prices
Speaker 4: because they're like three four.
Speaker 3: Dollars a bottle. I can't, you know, a two liter?
Speaker 2: Forget it, a two liter.
Speaker 5: Let's see.
Speaker 2: I saw the other day they had them on sale.
Speaker 2: It was three d for five bucks, three dollars General
Speaker 2: Wick Leaders.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Three for five that's real good.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they do it. They do it about once
Speaker 2: a month, okay, and PEPSI will do it, and then
Speaker 2: Coke will do it, just like in the grocery stores.
Speaker 2: So that's that the benefits steel I've seen so far. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll slap drinking a lot of soft thing, so a
Speaker 2: long time ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Doctor Pepper falls under it. You know. Me,
Speaker 3: I drink soda constantly.
Speaker 4: Uh, and I'm always drinking some kind of cola usually,
Speaker 4: but I'm on the you know, I'm on the stuff
Speaker 4: that tastes almost like window cleaner now because I can't
Speaker 4: afford pepsi or coke or or see even.
Speaker 3: It's impossible.
Speaker 2: So you know, a while since I've seen an RC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we got him here in Georgia, no problem, but.
Speaker 3: I can't afford him. I just can't.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's got Doctor Choice instead of Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 4: And that's the fun thing about Doctor Pepper is that
Speaker 4: they get distributed along with Pepsi or coke, depending on
Speaker 4: where you are in the country. But they're supposed to
Speaker 4: be an independent soda company Doctor Pepper, right, And then
Speaker 4: of course RC is under the Canada.
Speaker 2: Dry I think somebody bought them. Oh they did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: somebody bought Doctor Pepper. Who was that? Because they started
Speaker 2: in Texas. One of the fewest, the few things to
Speaker 2: come out of Texas that was worth it. Okay, let's see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I came out of Waco, Texas, home of the branch
Speaker 2: Davidian Barbecue well, look.
Speaker 3: The branch Davidians, Dodtor Pepper, Nolan Ryan. I call it
Speaker 3: a tie. Okay, what can I say?
Speaker 2: Uh, They're distributed by a whole bunch of people. The
Speaker 2: manufacturer is Coorig, the people that owned Korig yeah, now
Speaker 2: owned Doctor Pepper. But they're distributed, distributed.
Speaker 3: Along with Pepsi or Coke, depending on where you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, Coca Cola Company distributes them in the
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, Ireland and Japan. Uh Crombacker uh arrai in Germany.
Speaker 2: Let's see here. United States.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Coke and Pepsi used to split it. I forget
Speaker 4: what their dividing line was. Uh it was either like
Speaker 4: the Rockies or it wasn't south and north. It was
Speaker 4: like east west, and they had a division on it,
Speaker 4: uh like for instance. And it was weird because up
Speaker 4: in Jersey. I think it was Pepsi that No, maybe
Speaker 4: it was Coke that distributed. I think it was Coke
Speaker 4: that distributed it in Jersey.
Speaker 2: Let's see, Okay, In ninety five, Cadbury Schwepps bought Doctor
Speaker 2: Pepper in seven up okay, and then in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight Cadbury Schweps spun off Cadbury Schwep's American beverages
Speaker 2: into an independent company called the Doctor Pepper Snapple Group Okay,
Speaker 2: and renamed itself to Cadbury PLC. Kurk bought them in
Speaker 2: twenty and eighteen. They bought Doctor Pepper Snapple Group, so
Speaker 2: now it's Kurig Doctor Pepper, So that means they've got Cadbury,
Speaker 2: which is the chocolate company. H Schwept spun them off,
Speaker 2: so they own Snapple, which I still see in this.
Speaker 2: You know, they were big at one time, but you
Speaker 2: don't see them much advertised much anymore. So is Doctor
Speaker 2: Pepper Snapple And let's see who else they've got.
Speaker 4: Well, biggest mistake ever for Snapple is they started out
Speaker 4: as a New York, you know based thing pretty much,
Speaker 4: and they were huge. Yeah, they actually had clear root
Speaker 4: beer and Clear cola as well, along with the iced teas.
Speaker 4: Then they started focusing on mainly the iced teas and
Speaker 4: fruit drinks, and then it was pretty much iced tea
Speaker 4: and lemonade. And around that time they were sold the
Speaker 4: Quaker oats. I remember this because again it was like
Speaker 4: a local company and they got huge. They were all
Speaker 4: over the country all of a sudden, but there was
Speaker 4: a point at which you could only get snapple really
Speaker 4: in the northeast, you know. And some people say, oh,
Speaker 4: Rush Limbaugh helped spread it around. Other people will tell
Speaker 4: you that Howard Stern did it. But it was a
Speaker 4: combination of their radio and TV presence. They really went
Speaker 4: all in on ads and spread all over the country Snapple.
Speaker 4: And it was much better when they made it. You know,
Speaker 4: it was real fresh, brute tea. It was really you know,
Speaker 4: well made. They made it from actual cola nuts, and
Speaker 4: they showed you you don't have to add the color
Speaker 4: to the cola, you know, that caramel color that makes
Speaker 4: it that you know, brownish almost black color that cola
Speaker 4: always is, doesn't have to be that color. They made
Speaker 4: it clear without adding the you know, the extra crap.
Speaker 4: And that was the whole thing about them. They were
Speaker 4: supposed to be all natural, right.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you remember the old seven up commercial when the
Speaker 2: they had the uh was it Jamaican or the Caribbean actor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this had the cola nut.
Speaker 3: This is the cola nut. This is the uncola nut.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember that. That was great.
Speaker 4: I thought anyway, you know, yeah, that was the old commercial.
Speaker 4: But but literally speaking, though, you don't have to have
Speaker 4: that color and colon. That's not necessary, you know, for
Speaker 4: for your caffeinated cola drink. And they made it clear.
Speaker 4: It looked like water in the bottle. It was that clear.
Speaker 3: Uh. And they had it in the same glass bottle.
Speaker 3: That was the other thing.
Speaker 4: They had that distinctive glass bottle, you know, Snapple did.
Speaker 4: But then you know, once Quaker bought it, you know,
Speaker 4: things went into plastic bottles. I don't know how natural
Speaker 4: it is. And then they were you know, importing powder
Speaker 4: to different places and like you know, combining it with
Speaker 4: local water in different places in the country and this
Speaker 4: and that.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4: But but Snapple, I'm not surprised that sort of fell
Speaker 4: off because they went away from their original design, which
Speaker 4: made them different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big thing here is uh what Arizona brand tea?
Speaker 2: That was real big and it's becoming very big in Europe.
Speaker 2: For some reason, when I would go back and forth
Speaker 2: to Switzerland, I always had to take a couple of
Speaker 2: the large well you know, we used to call them
Speaker 2: tall boys when it was beers. A couple of large
Speaker 2: cans ye back from my girlfriend's daughter she would love
Speaker 2: the stuff. See in Arizona, I've never been I've never
Speaker 2: been a big fan of bottle teas though. I mean,
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I like ice tea, but I
Speaker 2: like it where it's brewed fresh, not something packaged in
Speaker 2: a bottle sitting on a shelf. They just don't taste
Speaker 2: right to me. Well, see, that's the thing and has
Speaker 2: a pretty good tea.
Speaker 4: Is that pure Leaf is way better than Lipton. You
Speaker 4: tried that pure leaf tea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the pure Leaf, but to be honest,
Speaker 2: I like the Lipton green tea better than the purely Well,
Speaker 2: what made I'll.
Speaker 4: Tell you a funny thing. What made the Arizona teas
Speaker 4: so successful is that they had a giant You know,
Speaker 4: when everybody else's sodas and teas and everything else at
Speaker 4: twenty ounces went to you know, plastic bottles and everything
Speaker 4: was like a buck fifty, they had a ninety nine
Speaker 4: cent can. So those things sold quicker to anybody who
Speaker 4: was budget conscious on the run. You know, I pay
Speaker 4: a buck for this, I pay a buck fifty or
Speaker 4: almost two dollars for the other thing. And you know
Speaker 4: the only trouble is I can't put the cat back
Speaker 4: on the Arizona that used to be the way of
Speaker 4: it that Giant Can used to help it help them
Speaker 4: with sales. It really did all the time. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't remember how much was in it, but I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what. Forget about it, because they phased them out.
Speaker 4: Now you have small, much smaller cans. The shrink flation
Speaker 4: has hit your Arizona can. Now they're you know, two bucks,
Speaker 4: and yeah, they're like half the size they look like
Speaker 4: to me, I mean probably they're not. They're probably seventy
Speaker 4: five percent of the size of the ninety nine cent
Speaker 4: can't what.
Speaker 3: It used to be.
Speaker 4: But and they have exclusive deals, like if you go
Speaker 4: to Circle K, you know, the Arizona can literally has
Speaker 4: a Circle K price on it now where it has
Speaker 4: a Circle K logo on the Arizona can printed on it,
Speaker 4: which is another weird thing.
Speaker 3: They're co branding.
Speaker 4: So depending on where you are, your Arizona can could
Speaker 4: cost you different prices. But they had a universal thing
Speaker 4: across the board. No matter where you bought it, it was
Speaker 4: supposed to be ninety nine cents, you know, unless you
Speaker 4: went to like a hotel. Hotels would still charge you
Speaker 4: five bucks for a can or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 4: You know they remember that the pepsi can in Dallas,
Speaker 4: you know, five bucks for a pepsi, you know, twelve
Speaker 4: ounce can guys a pepsi five bucks?
Speaker 3: Yikes. But anyway I went.
Speaker 4: I kept going over to that when we went, I
Speaker 4: kept going over to that taco place and buying the
Speaker 4: you know, glass bottles of coke because it just tasted better.
Speaker 3: And I was going to pay five bucks either way.
Speaker 3: To screw it. I'd rather have the glass bottle of coke.
Speaker 2: But yeah, now they used to I saw something in
Speaker 2: the story the other day, and I used to buy
Speaker 2: it when it was cheap.
Speaker 5: You can get them.
Speaker 2: There were four bottles in a pack and it was
Speaker 2: called Clearly Canadian Water. Basically it was carbonated water with
Speaker 2: a flavoring. I love the stuff, but it's up to
Speaker 2: almost three dollars a bottle in places, and it's like
Speaker 2: you've got to be kidneyed. This is nothing more than
Speaker 2: Seltzer water. Yeah, why in the hell are you charging
Speaker 2: so much? I can get a twelve pack of cans
Speaker 2: of mandarin flavored Seltzer water at food line.
Speaker 5: Why am I gonna buy Clearly.
Speaker 2: Canadian Although it's good, it ain't that good? Yes, and
Speaker 2: advising themselves out of the damn market.
Speaker 4: See that's my point about that eight dollars bag of Doritos.
Speaker 4: You know they're good, Ain't that damn good? And the
Speaker 4: other thing is again Frankie, he loves those, you know,
Speaker 4: like flavored water Seltzers.
Speaker 3: I buy them the store brand ones.
Speaker 4: I give up, you know, because they're less than a
Speaker 4: buck still, you know what I mean? But like you said,
Speaker 4: any of the name brand like you know, flavored water,
Speaker 4: Seltzer water, whatever, they're all freaking three dollars a bottle,
Speaker 4: So you know which which one am I gonna do?
Speaker 4: I can buy three of these for him and have change,
Speaker 4: or I can buy one Nope, you know, here we
Speaker 4: go Dorito's Nope, Okay, I just can't do it. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's like the price of a candy bars is out
Speaker 4: of control too, any of these snacks. But the thing
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about I thought you might know,
Speaker 4: is whether there have been price cuts in the month
Speaker 4: of April, because that's what was supposed to happen. By
Speaker 4: the way, how is your frozen pizza?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, algorithm doing?
Speaker 2: It's still it's you can get two for ten bucks.
Speaker 2: Now used to you can get three for ten bucks.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, reduction in products for the money.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The one that really the one I look at now,
Speaker 2: Chichen brand is a cheat, you know. It's like the
Speaker 2: old generics of stuff and food line carries.
Speaker 5: A lot of their products like paper.
Speaker 2: Towels and Aapkins ketchup, things like that. Okay, it used
Speaker 2: to be ninety nine percent for a bottle of ketchup.
Speaker 2: It's gone up. It went up originally to a buck
Speaker 2: twenty nine after COVID and all the prices jumped. Now
Speaker 2: it's gone to a buck thirty nine. Their bread used
Speaker 2: to be ninety nine per cent a loaf. Now it's
Speaker 2: like a buck twenty nine for white and what like
Speaker 2: a buck eighty for wheat bread. So those items have
Speaker 2: not come down now the grocery stores around here, I
Speaker 2: have seen a few things come down, but not much.
Speaker 2: It's just a few items, you know, I can count
Speaker 2: them on one hand. Other than that, nothing has come down.
Speaker 2: Well nothing.
Speaker 4: What you're describing is a thirty to forty increase right
Speaker 4: in price, yeah, regardless of size, and then in some
Speaker 4: cases they'll shrink. The size is the bottle of ketchup
Speaker 4: or any of these other or the bread smaller, because
Speaker 4: I'll tell you something, they're making smaller loads of bread
Speaker 4: here say a.
Speaker 5: Great, Well, no there.
Speaker 2: I have found out too that when you buy sliced cheese,
Speaker 2: like I like cheese toast in the morning, so I'll
Speaker 2: get a couple packs of cheddar sliced cheese and a
Speaker 2: loaf of bread.
Speaker 5: Well, the bread has shrunk. It's not as fluffed up.
Speaker 2: As it used to be, so now you have to
Speaker 2: fold your cheese or it hangs over the sides and
Speaker 2: drips all down in your toaster. So I've noticed things
Speaker 2: like that. It's still the same weight on the bag,
Speaker 2: you know, a pound or whatever the normal is, but
Speaker 2: it's smaller in height. There's always you know, when they're
Speaker 2: making a loaf smaller. There's always twenty two slices of
Speaker 2: bread in a normal loaf of bread, and that is
Speaker 2: counting the heel Slices' always twenty two. So that's he'll
Speaker 2: say the same. But the slices aren't as big as
Speaker 2: they were, so they can't. I don't understand how it's
Speaker 2: the same weight unless they're just not pumping as much
Speaker 2: air into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's weird because what are they saving if
Speaker 4: you know, if pumping.
Speaker 3: Air should be the thing they're doing actually.
Speaker 4: To uh write like like the bag of chips, well,
Speaker 4: half of the bag is air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it doesn't change anything for them, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the air is cheap unless it's unless it's costing
Speaker 2: them to mix it in there in the dough before
Speaker 2: it goes through the the heat racks. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on, but ketchup, it's the same size.
Speaker 2: It's thirty percent more. The pizzas are the same size.
Speaker 2: You know, you just had a loss of thirty three
Speaker 2: percent in your amount of products. So normal pizza prices
Speaker 2: and usually it used to be Tombstone was on sale
Speaker 2: and then Red Bearon would go on sale. Well, now
Speaker 2: you're lucky to see two Red Barons on sale for
Speaker 2: ten bucks. Normally they've gone up to like six sixty
Speaker 2: five apiece, and they'll give you two for ten And
Speaker 2: the best price is at the Dollar Store no longer.
Speaker 5: Food Line.
Speaker 2: Food Line used to be the champion for frozen pizza
Speaker 2: more right.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, the company that owns Dollar
Speaker 4: General I think talked about price cuts as well because
Speaker 4: there was a whole article on this, Like I said,
Speaker 4: with the McDonald's and Pepsi and you know, Dorito's and
Speaker 4: all this stuff going, Yeah, we've accidentally caused people to
Speaker 4: stop buying our products.
Speaker 3: Uh so we got to bro people.
Speaker 2: Bring junk about Yeah, yeah, people talk junk about dollars throwers.
Speaker 2: But I'll go ahead and tell you for most of
Speaker 2: the food items that I'd buy that they carry a
Speaker 2: Dollar General, I can get them cheaper than even at
Speaker 2: Food Line or Pigley Wiggley.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, but there's a few things that the price is
Speaker 2: the same no matter where you go. Like uh, I
Speaker 2: like Stofer's lasagna, and they have a meat Lovers, which
Speaker 2: is a bigger individual lasagna. They're always five seventy five,
Speaker 2: no matter where the hell you go. Ok. But a
Speaker 2: lot of this other package stuff, burritos, these mega bowl
Speaker 2: dinners of various recipes, you can always find them cheaper
Speaker 2: at Dollar General. So I split my shop and now
Speaker 2: I get what I know. I can get a Dollar General.
Speaker 2: My coffee is cheaper at Dollar General, so I'll go
Speaker 2: there to get stuff and then I'll split my shopping
Speaker 2: between there and Food Line.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, we're almost an hour in and it looks
Speaker 4: like we do have a call, So I think I
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Speaker 4: a break after that. But you guys can join in
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Speaker 3: Just let me see exactly what time it is.
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Speaker 4: April twenty twenty six. We're live, so you could call
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Speaker 4: And it looks like we got Jimmy James on the line.
Speaker 4: I brought him up earlier. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: heard me mention them, but Jimmy, how you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm doing good here?
Speaker 3: So did you hear me mention you earlier?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay? Cool?
Speaker 4: Now, I just want to make sure you knew that
Speaker 4: that there is something on its way to you in
Speaker 4: the mail.
Speaker 3: Now. I don't know what happens to your mail. I'm
Speaker 3: still very.
Speaker 4: Pissed off that I sent you one of those red
Speaker 4: seal two dollar bills and a couple other things in
Speaker 4: a package. You never saw that that package entirely.
Speaker 3: It just vanished.
Speaker 4: They sent one package back to me once. But I'm saying,
Speaker 4: you like three things that didn't make it to you.
Speaker 4: So I'm hoping this little package gets to you this time.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah too.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, it's not a major thing, and
Speaker 4: I won't be as upset as I was at the
Speaker 4: two dollar bill because those are harder to come by
Speaker 4: for me, you know, than they used to be. But
Speaker 4: but the thing is, I mean, I did send you
Speaker 4: something I thought was cool because I'm sending out little
Speaker 4: gifts to anybody who makes a donation to Olly dot
Speaker 4: com right now. And uh, I know that you're owed
Speaker 4: a couple of packages for stuff being lost in the
Speaker 4: mail and you're always chipping in, so I included you
Speaker 4: on the list along with you know, the couple of
Speaker 4: people that chipped in. So I just wanted to let
Speaker 4: you know that and be on the lookout for it
Speaker 4: and let me know in an email or something when
Speaker 4: it shows up. Uh So, what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 3: Jimmy?
Speaker 7: Oh well, I got a cracks.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got a couple of tracks. You want to
Speaker 3: go on? Go ahead?
Speaker 7: No, I need you. I need to cut a man.
Speaker 3: Do you understand what he's saying? BP, he's breaking up, right,
Speaker 3: breaking up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't understand you.
Speaker 7: You're hearing hearing an echo?
Speaker 3: You're hearing an echo? All right? I'm not sure why
Speaker 3: we're not echoing here? Uhh, I don't know. Maybe I
Speaker 3: can turn this down a little bit. Maybe that'll help.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Go ahead, Hopefully you're not getting an.
Speaker 7: Echo now with any any better?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not hearing an echo at the moment.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 7: Now I do want to understand me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever I talk, there's an echo. That's what the
Speaker 4: problem is. Sorry, i'll shut up.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I was just saying I need to get
Speaker 7: you to cut a couple of tracks for me next week. Chuck.
Speaker 4: Oh, you mean on the short attention span DJ theater
Speaker 4: thing you want? You want to make a request?
Speaker 7: No, I need to make a couple of tracks.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, what do you need done?
Speaker 7: Well, just a couple of audio tracks?
Speaker 3: Okay, you do you what what do you want recorded? Exactly?
Speaker 7: Well? It's uh sort of a show.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Well, do you have links to stuff you want recorded?
Speaker 4: Or do you want to record your voice?
Speaker 3: What? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It would be blue.
Speaker 3: Both. Yes, okay, do you have no problem?
Speaker 2: Do you have a way to record?
Speaker 3: Sorry, do you have a way to record?
Speaker 4: Do you have a way to record your own voice?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: I ever the record the Sampson recorder built in.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you could theoretically you could record some MP
Speaker 4: three's and send me some clips and I could put
Speaker 4: them together for you.
Speaker 3: Is that what you want me to do?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay, sure they do pretty much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, email it to me and let me know what
Speaker 4: it is you're you're doing, and uh, and I'll see
Speaker 4: if I can assemble it for you.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah we could then of course, you know, put
Speaker 7: in a contribution.
Speaker 4: Well sure, yeah, but either way, just send me the
Speaker 4: stuff and let's see if I can you know, if
Speaker 4: I can figure it out, you know, I mean sometimes
Speaker 4: people send me directions and I don't understand them, so
Speaker 4: I might need clarification or something. But uh, but you know,
Speaker 4: just work with me and we'll get it done.
Speaker 3: How does that sound?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, No, be pe be scared.
Speaker 7: He scared me earlier. H B. Pete Jane's supposed to
Speaker 7: put that cheese in with the bread in that toaster.
Speaker 7: You are a very.
Speaker 5: It's it's a it's a toast.
Speaker 7: Smoky, smokey the bear man.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: It was designed for cheese toast.
Speaker 3: It's a toaster oven.
Speaker 2: Be uh a jimmy, not a regular toaster.
Speaker 7: Oh oh, I misunderstand.
Speaker 2: Cooked pork chops. I have cooked pork chops in a
Speaker 2: regular toaster.
Speaker 3: How the hell do you cook a pork chop in
Speaker 3: a regular toast? Are you serious?
Speaker 4: I would think that would cause a grease fire instantaneously.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: You take the pan out of the bottom and you
Speaker 2: set it in a broiling pan so the grease drips through.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, okay again with the Okay, it's a toaster oven,
Speaker 4: not a toaster, all right, because see a toaster.
Speaker 5: No if this is a regular No, it's a regular toaster.
Speaker 2: You reach underneath, okay, and you turn the little knob
Speaker 2: and you take the bottom tray out of it. Okay,
Speaker 2: and then you set it in a roasting pan so
Speaker 2: that the toaster is sitting up off of the of
Speaker 2: the bottom of the pan, and the grease just drips through.
Speaker 2: You know, you do what you got to do with
Speaker 2: what you have. It was either that or a steam iron.
Speaker 2: I figured the toaster would.
Speaker 5: Do a letter job.
Speaker 4: Now, I've cooked stuff with an iron before, so I understand.
Speaker 4: But okay, I don't know man, that that toaster operation
Speaker 4: still sounds dangerous.
Speaker 3: With the coils on the pork chop, how does it
Speaker 3: turn out?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Because well, no, the grease is dripping down off the
Speaker 2: pork chop, it's not spattering anywhere, and the red elements
Speaker 2: are back far enough behind the cage, okay that they
Speaker 2: don't come in contact with the grease, and the grip
Speaker 2: grease strip straight through into the boiler van.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: You know I thought this one out before I did it.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't standing there the whole time with
Speaker 2: a fire extinguisher waiting from a pork chop to go
Speaker 2: up in flames.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm not trying to blame you, but I've
Speaker 4: seen people do dumber things than that.
Speaker 5: You know, it was well planned out, Okay, cool.
Speaker 4: But I have seen people that I thought previously were
Speaker 4: smart do much dumber.
Speaker 3: Things than that.
Speaker 4: So I was like, wait a minute, Okay, well see
Speaker 4: now b Peza not causing fires.
Speaker 3: No smoky the bear, no need JJ.
Speaker 2: Okay, See it would be a big mess trying to
Speaker 2: do a pork chob on an iron.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely he would make a mess. You know,
Speaker 3: you got to have you.
Speaker 2: Paid to make a tray out of aluminum foil and
Speaker 2: set that on the heat plate of the iron and
Speaker 2: then put the pork chop in that and hope you
Speaker 2: don't have so much grease that it drips out anywhere.
Speaker 2: That would be a mess.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you there were places where I lived that,
Speaker 4: you know, those old radiators, they would get so hot
Speaker 4: that you could set up a tray on those and
Speaker 4: you could cook on them anytime you wanted, if the
Speaker 4: heat was on, because they were like red freaking hot.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know how we didn't burn down more
Speaker 4: houses with him.
Speaker 5: Good we had that.
Speaker 2: We had a house that we bought had the old
Speaker 2: radiators in it, and luckily there was a window right
Speaker 2: above it. So when the heater, when a radiator was
Speaker 2: kicking hard, you always had to crack the window just
Speaker 2: to get the damn heat out of it because you
Speaker 2: were worried.
Speaker 5: You know that you could put your hand on the.
Speaker 2: Wall and feel how hot it was. It was you know,
Speaker 2: old heavy lab plaster, so you weren't worried about it
Speaker 2: catching on fire, but you always had to vent the
Speaker 2: window above the radiator. They would get so bad, all right.
Speaker 4: One time, when I was doing construction work on the
Speaker 4: Jersey Shore, I took apart one of those you know
Speaker 4: walls with the with the lathe and the plaster on
Speaker 4: top of the lathe and all that, and one.
Speaker 3: Of those places.
Speaker 4: I can't remember a radiator without a window hear it,
Speaker 4: to be honest, But I took apart one of those
Speaker 4: like next to a radiator that apparently somebody wasn't real
Speaker 4: careful about installing, and I found what I would consider
Speaker 4: to be a cooked mouse.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if the mouse was cooked we.
Speaker 4: Live, or if it died and got cooked, but it
Speaker 4: definitely got cooked at some point long before I opened
Speaker 4: up that wall.
Speaker 3: Uh that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: And I was just like man like you, but you
Speaker 4: could tell the whole section of that wall that was.
Speaker 3: Near the radiator had been like baked because of that rate.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 9: Laugh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 2: She wanted to redo two bedrooms and she wanted to
Speaker 2: put a border up at the top, you know, below
Speaker 2: the crown molding. So she gets her wallpaper that she
Speaker 2: wanted to put up there. I told her to Mom,
Speaker 2: I said, those walls are lad plaster. They're rough. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to get them smooth. She's well, I could
Speaker 2: just send them down. I said, bomb, it's lath plaster.
Speaker 2: Let me show you something. I went out and shop
Speaker 2: and got my dad grinder and plugged it in, got
Speaker 2: on a ladder and hit it against that wall, and
Speaker 2: then started throwing sparks from the rock that was in
Speaker 2: the plaster. And I said, Mom, you're not going to
Speaker 2: do it. Well, how am I supposed to get him smooth?
Speaker 2: I had to come up with the idea of using
Speaker 2: joint compound, you know, mud for she rock and had
Speaker 2: to trol out every one of those walls so she
Speaker 2: could lay this little six inch border at the top
Speaker 2: and it would be smooth. Oh boy, I thought I
Speaker 2: would die after that job.
Speaker 5: She said, well, you can sand it down.
Speaker 2: I said, Mom, if you I mean it's like bouncing
Speaker 2: a chainsaw off a curb.
Speaker 5: You're not going to grind it down.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 4: Well, that cooked mouse wall was hilarious because you know,
Speaker 4: we had a guy with a big wrench who was
Speaker 4: supposed to take the you know, cause the old radiators
Speaker 4: were bolted to the floor and we're taking this house apart.
Speaker 4: And so of course the foreman tells me he take
Speaker 4: a sledgehammer and bust the stupid bolts because they're not
Speaker 4: coming out like the regular way. We can't just unscrew
Speaker 4: them there. I don't know what the problem was, but
Speaker 4: the wrench wasn't gonna do it. Uh So they give
Speaker 4: me the stupid sledgehammer to go hit it. I bang
Speaker 4: on this thing a couple of times. The next thing
Speaker 4: I know is I'm falling out the side of the
Speaker 4: house with that section of the wall, and I'm from
Speaker 4: the second floor boom down in the backyard, and I
Speaker 4: land there, knocked the wind out of myself. I'm laying
Speaker 4: there for I don't know a few seconds, probably trying
Speaker 4: to catch my breath, and the foreman walks over, looks
Speaker 4: down at me, and goes, you're not going to the
Speaker 4: hospital till.
Speaker 2: Lunchtime, Jersey.
Speaker 3: Anyways, I didn't need to go to the hospital.
Speaker 4: I just had the wind knocked out of me from
Speaker 4: falling out of the side of a freaking house because
Speaker 4: somehow I hit it hard enough that the wall the
Speaker 4: floor like a chunk of the house came out pretty
Speaker 4: much and just went out sideways and landed wall first, thankfully,
Speaker 4: so the wall broke my fall, along with the window
Speaker 4: that thankfully we took the glass out of. So you know,
Speaker 4: the wall broke my fall. I didn't land on the
Speaker 4: radiator because that probably would have broken something, and.
Speaker 3: It probably would have been me.
Speaker 4: Anyway, radiator was out and people were pissed at me
Speaker 4: because I ruined part of the floor, but the guy
Speaker 4: told me to hit it with a sledge hammer. I
Speaker 4: was following directions. Anyways. You know, we all have adventures
Speaker 4: and jobs and I never had to do something like
Speaker 4: that like you did for your mom. But because obviously
Speaker 4: I have no skills, that's why I had the sledge
Speaker 4: hammer banging on a freaking bolt in a floor. Right, Okay, anyways, Jimmy,
Speaker 4: what else is on your mind this week? Because I'm
Speaker 4: thinking about taking a quick break so I can go pee.
Speaker 4: But what else you got on your mind this week?
Speaker 3: Anything?
Speaker 7: Well? The missing the missing people from the jet the
Speaker 7: pulsing laboratory is pretty interesting, but we take a break.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do that, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I haven't done any any of a research
Speaker 4: or a dive into that. I did see some headlines,
Speaker 4: but maybe B Pete can tell us about some headlines.
Speaker 4: Maybe you can dig a few up about that. While
Speaker 4: we take a quick break, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy,
Speaker 4: and we'll come back, and anybody else that wants to
Speaker 4: join us sides Jimmy, we got a little under an
Speaker 4: hour to go.
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Speaker 4: show and along with you know, relevant references, guests links,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. There were no links for David Boyland,
Speaker 4: by the way, boilin from the conversation we had with
Speaker 4: him and Larry Hancock what was that Wednesday? Because David
Speaker 4: doesn't have a website or anything, so he has no
Speaker 4: links he wants to give. But he is the co
Speaker 4: author of the Oswald Puzzle, So there you go. But
Speaker 4: you do have plenty of lakes for Larry Hancock. And
Speaker 4: if that's plenty to explore, believe me. Anyways, be Pete.
Speaker 4: We got Jimmy James on the line. I'm hoping we'll
Speaker 4: get some more people three one nine, five two seven
Speaker 4: five zero one six. But since Jimmy's the only one
Speaker 4: on the line, we're gonna go back to him. And
Speaker 4: he kicked off a subject before we went to break, uh,
Speaker 4: so I want to get back to him and uh
Speaker 4: let him loose on this because quite honestly, I didn't
Speaker 4: go digging into this particular news story at all yet.
Speaker 4: Uh I saw the headlines, I saw a couple of
Speaker 4: mentions here and there, some Twitter traffic.
Speaker 3: What else did I see?
Speaker 4: Maybe a couple of YouTube short videos talking about it.
Speaker 4: But I have not adequately dug into this at all.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna leave Jimmy and you to discuss it,
Speaker 4: I guess, and bring Jimmy back on Oh one more
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Speaker 3: There we go. I think I did that enough time
Speaker 3: to be Pete. What do you think? Sure? Okay, fair enough?
Speaker 3: And you know you can't.
Speaker 4: Get a word in edgewise. You know what your fault.
Speaker 4: You're not calling in. Jimmy did so he's on. Anyway,
Speaker 4: Jimmy back to the subject you kicked off before.
Speaker 3: We went to break.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me a little bit about it, and I
Speaker 4: think b. Pete might have some information, but I want
Speaker 4: to hear from you about it first.
Speaker 7: Well, a story that's been building up for the last
Speaker 7: couple of months. People started really pa attention when a
Speaker 7: general disappeared, and then people noticed that there was a
Speaker 7: pattern of numerous people who in a short period of
Speaker 7: time have disappeared or been murdered. And they all worked
Speaker 7: more or less together at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Speaker 3: Okay, now, and it's.
Speaker 7: That they border asked today the President about it, and
Speaker 7: he said he's ordering someone I would assume the FBI
Speaker 7: to look into it, and he said he would mention
Speaker 7: it again in a few days.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So, Jimmy, I got a couple of questions
Speaker 4: real quick.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember reading about a murder. I think
Speaker 4: there was a couple right that were together that we're murdered.
Speaker 4: Is that correct? Is that the same story.
Speaker 7: That there may have been a you mean a like
Speaker 7: husband and wife or something.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 4: I wasn't certain about that. I was saying that there
Speaker 4: were I should clarify that. You're right, a couple of
Speaker 4: people were murdered, like two to my mind, like maybe
Speaker 4: weeks ago.
Speaker 7: Right, Well, in the last few years, there's been several
Speaker 7: and a bunch of other ones have just walked away.
Speaker 7: And they also have a very bizarre habit of leaving
Speaker 7: their wallets and keys behind. And yet they keep saying,
Speaker 7: and they take their handguns with them. Oh, that's happened
Speaker 7: at least two times they mentioned kind of unusual.
Speaker 4: Now is this people that disappeared or people that they
Speaker 4: found dead took their handguns with them.
Speaker 7: Two people who just they disappeared, One was the general
Speaker 7: and one was another gentlemen. Okay, scientists, I guess. Okay,
Speaker 7: well they just walk off with their handgun, never to
Speaker 7: be seen.
Speaker 2: Again, never to be seen again.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I got one last question and then I
Speaker 4: want to go to be Pete because I think he's
Speaker 4: got an article, uh that we can you know, at
Speaker 4: least try to, you know, navigate.
Speaker 3: But uh, my last question is this.
Speaker 4: Didn't somebody bring this up to Donald Trump like last
Speaker 4: month also like and then they did it again in
Speaker 4: the past couple of days, Like, hasn't even asked by
Speaker 4: a reporter more than once about this.
Speaker 7: I only know that, uh about that they were or
Speaker 7: asked him about it. Today. I'm not aware that. I
Speaker 7: don't think that there was the Dinosaur. Press paid any
Speaker 7: attention to it up until very recently last week or so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just couldn't remember.
Speaker 4: Like, look, it could have been on Fox and Friends,
Speaker 4: but I thought I saw a clip of the President
Speaker 4: being asked about it, you know, when he drops in
Speaker 4: on Fox and Friends or something like that. I don't
Speaker 4: remember if it was that or during a regular presser,
Speaker 4: but I thought a couple of months ago they asked
Speaker 4: him about this too, or weeks ago, I should say,
Speaker 4: they asked him about.
Speaker 3: It, and then you say it was today.
Speaker 4: I knew it was in the past few days, but
Speaker 4: I didn't look at the date even you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't pay special attention to this, but I know it
Speaker 4: was in the past few days.
Speaker 7: Right, hold on, I have one correction. Okay, someone did
Speaker 7: bring up the missing general to him before.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, No, I just I'm just like picking through
Speaker 4: my memory trying to remember what I've seen, and I'm
Speaker 4: trying to associate it with this. I'm openly asking the
Speaker 4: questions so you can correct anything I say here, because
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing except what you guys are telling me.
Speaker 3: Really, and a few clips I've seen, so b Pete,
Speaker 3: what do we have?
Speaker 4: As the story goes here, according to the article you
Speaker 4: dug up, you said from NewsNation, I think during the break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a couple from NewsNation. One one was
Speaker 2: done by Elizabeth Vargas and the other one was done
Speaker 2: by Jeremy Webb, I think. But I'll get to that
Speaker 2: in a second. I did an AI search and it
Speaker 2: said because apparently the first person on this list was
Speaker 2: way back in twenty twenty two, it says at least
Speaker 2: ten scientists connected the UFO research have been reported missing
Speaker 2: or dead since mid twenty twenty four. The FBIS investigated
Speaker 2: these cases to uncover any potential connections among them. Notable cases,
Speaker 2: let's see scientists reported as missing or dead, and the
Speaker 2: first one is Amy Escridge. She founded the Institute for
Speaker 2: Exotic Science, and in twenty twenty two they found her dead.
Speaker 2: I think in Alabama. I'm not sure I've got that
Speaker 2: story here. But William Neil McCaslin is the retired Air
Speaker 2: Force general and he disappeared in February of this year.
Speaker 2: Stephen Garcia is a government contractor at a nuclear facility.
Speaker 2: They handle all of the nuclear items that are either
Speaker 2: in our ballistic missiles or anything connected with any space shots,
Speaker 2: anything like that. He was missing in August of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. Monica Jacinto Reza, who was working for McCaslin
Speaker 2: the General on some projects. She disappeared in June of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and it goes on to say, let
Speaker 2: me scroll back up here. It says the disappearances began
Speaker 2: attracting attention in twenty twenty two, with Amy Esker's case
Speaker 2: being particularly notable due to comments about threats related to
Speaker 2: her research. Many of the missing or to see scientists
Speaker 2: had connections to significant research institutions, including NASA and the
Speaker 2: Los Alamos National Laboratory. Now Amy Esbridge, who was the
Speaker 2: first one, let me pull up her article says a
Speaker 2: scientist who reportedly died of a self inflicted gunshot wound
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, is receiving renewed attention amid reports
Speaker 2: on a series of death and disappearances involving US experts
Speaker 2: tied to advanced research. The Daily Mail reported that Amy
Speaker 2: Esbridge died in Huntsville, Alabama, on June eleventh, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Out reported the death as a self inflicted gunshot wound
Speaker 2: to the head, but said neither the police nor the
Speaker 2: medical examiner have released a public investigative report. The report
Speaker 2: that was issued highlighted unresolved questions around her death, placing
Speaker 2: her among the list of eleven scientists and researchers whose
Speaker 2: cases have prompted speculation and so far they've not been
Speaker 2: able to find any link. Now here just today, let's see,
Speaker 2: this is Elizabeth Vargas. This says. The disappearance in death
Speaker 2: of ten people with reported access to some of America's
Speaker 2: top nuclear space secrets have sparked questions. While none of
Speaker 2: the cases have been publicly connected by authorities, the pressure
Speaker 2: is on for Trump administration to investigate possible links, I
Speaker 2: said when asked about the cases by a reporter, The
Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt said, I haven't
Speaker 2: spoken to our or irrelevant agencies about it. I will
Speaker 2: certainly do that. We'll get you an answer if true.
Speaker 2: Of course, has definitely something I think the government and
Speaker 2: administration would be worth looking into. So she's supposed to
Speaker 2: be checking on it. Stephen Garcia, a government contractor with
Speaker 2: alleged top level clearance at a key nuclear facility, is
Speaker 2: the latest to be connected to the growing list.
Speaker 5: So apparently they've gone back.
Speaker 2: We had the general in February, we had someone else.
Speaker 2: Now they've gone back and looked at these other weird cases,
Speaker 2: and they're saying that's how the list got put together.
Speaker 2: Garcia disappeared in August of last year. He reportedly left
Speaker 2: his phone, wallet and keys, picked up a gun, and
Speaker 2: walked out of his New Mexico home.
Speaker 5: His chase was similar to that of Yeah.
Speaker 2: His case is similar to that of retired Air Force
Speaker 2: Major General William Neil McCaslin, who went missing February twenty
Speaker 2: seventh after leaving his Albuquerque home on foot. As for
Speaker 2: the other eight cases, two scienceists were shot and killed
Speaker 2: at their homes. Another body was believed to be found
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the lake. Others vanished from their houses,
Speaker 2: a highway and a hiking trail, and none of these
Speaker 2: cases from the past thirty three months are officially connected,
Speaker 2: but people are starting to ask questions. So members of
Speaker 2: the community devoted to the study of UAPs I can't
Speaker 2: get used to that. To me, they're UFOs. I see
Speaker 2: uap it's or unidentified anomalist, and I and UFOs have
Speaker 2: expressed concerns that the events are somehow linked.
Speaker 5: Says, it's bizarre.
Speaker 2: I go through the various potential scenarios. These are large organizations.
Speaker 2: Could these be coincidences? I think we might have to
Speaker 2: have passed that threshold. Former State Department analyst Merrik vonn
Speaker 2: In count Total Elizabeth Vargas. Chris Wecker, a former FBI
Speaker 2: assistant director, didn't rule out a connection. They think that
Speaker 2: it might be espionage, not people being taken by aliens,
Speaker 2: which has been one theory thrown out there. Okay, I
Speaker 2: guess you know the aliens are gonna steal all of
Speaker 2: our people.
Speaker 5: That know things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, if the aliens are capable of getting here
Speaker 4: from wherever the hell they came from, I don't think
Speaker 4: they need.
Speaker 3: Our people all that bad. Uh.
Speaker 4: So espionage sounds like a more likely thing. But what
Speaker 4: is the exact connective tissue? Is it all through the
Speaker 4: same facilities? Is it all under the same group?
Speaker 3: Are talking about?
Speaker 2: Says it? Says it, says most Before his disappearance, Macaslein,
Speaker 2: Now this is the retired general. His former colleague and
Speaker 2: material scientist Monica Reza, vanished while hiking. Reza was an
Speaker 2: aerospace engineer who developed a special medal used in rockets.
Speaker 2: The project was funded by the US government and overseen
Speaker 2: by McCaslin. Other missing scientists and insiders include a no
Speaker 2: artist biologist Jason Thomas, Los Alamo's National Laboratory employees Melissa
Speaker 2: Kaslis and Anthony Chavez, the death of Hicks, NASA's Frank
Speaker 2: my Wald and MIT's Nuno Lrerio, and Caltech's Carl Grimmore So,
Speaker 2: they're all at high tech institutions either were like MIT,
Speaker 2: NASA and Los Alamos National Laboratory. Says here, the most
Speaker 2: striking thing for me is Monica Reza and General mcaslin.
Speaker 2: I mean Monica Resla worked closely with General Castle, and
Speaker 2: she disappeared under extremely, extremely disturbing the mysterious circumstances. Reportedly,
Speaker 2: she co patented a super alloy that was going to
Speaker 2: be used for rocket propulsion, and apparently McCaslin and her
Speaker 2: were like leaders in their field.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it sounds to me like, look, some of
Speaker 4: this could be development for weapons, some of this could
Speaker 4: be development.
Speaker 3: For you know, leaving Earth.
Speaker 4: But you know it is it definitely all like UAP
Speaker 4: connected or you know, I know, you hate that term.
Speaker 4: But is it all connected to UAP stuff or is
Speaker 4: it possible we're talking about because when you're talking about
Speaker 4: Los Alamos, they developed a lot of strange things out there,
Speaker 4: and you know, most of it not meant for public
Speaker 4: consumption from what I understand, you know, Jimmy, a lot of.
Speaker 2: What is classified.
Speaker 7: These people are are connected because they worked at right Patterson.
Speaker 7: That general was the charge of the applied Technology units.
Speaker 7: These are the people that you've of course heard a
Speaker 7: Project blue Book. There's a reason it's called that because
Speaker 7: the Blue Room is at right Patterson and that's exactly
Speaker 7: where they keep these exotic materials to things that the subject.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the fact that these people.
Speaker 7: Are is not all I mean, it's a national security
Speaker 7: issue quite frankly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's what I'm thinking, is that generally speaking,
Speaker 4: what we have here overall is a serious national security
Speaker 4: issue if you have a pattern like this, and it's
Speaker 4: absolutely outrageous that the military intelligence people didn't pick up
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 3: Yet in my mind, they should be on this.
Speaker 4: Are they, I wonder, and would they let us know
Speaker 4: if they were? You know, I don't know the answer
Speaker 4: to that question. And this is a good time for
Speaker 4: some of the people that worked in that industry that
Speaker 4: I have run across to contact me here and help
Speaker 4: me out, because navigating that stuff is hard, you know,
Speaker 4: generally speaking.
Speaker 3: Uh. But wow, So this whole pattern's been going on
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two, is that, right? Vp't according to
Speaker 3: that summation.
Speaker 2: Well, people that are creating these lists and these news
Speaker 2: agencies are putting these people together. Yeah, some of them
Speaker 2: have gone back to that one person's death in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. The rest of these have happened in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty twenty five, twenty six, over the last
Speaker 2: thirty three months. Okay, So, like some of the theories out
Speaker 2: there are that, like McCaslin, his wife in a Facebook
Speaker 2: post put Neil does not have any special knowledge about
Speaker 2: the et bodies and debris from the Roswell crash stored
Speaker 2: it right, Patterson though at this point with absolutely no
Speaker 2: sign of them, Maybe the best hypothesis is that alliens
Speaker 2: beat him up to the mothership. However, no sightings of
Speaker 2: a mothership hovering above the Sadia Mountains have been reported.
Speaker 3: Wait his wife posted that. Wait, well, hold on, his
Speaker 3: wife posted.
Speaker 7: That because yeah, yeah, I love to point out that
Speaker 7: This woman is a very weird, strange person. I would
Speaker 7: never act like this woman does if my spouse was missing.
Speaker 7: She's acting like it's a big old joe. I just
Speaker 7: put that out there.
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, this is news to me. I got go ahead.
Speaker 4: So what else? What else do we need to know?
Speaker 4: This is pretty wild, But I was not aware it was.
Speaker 2: This deeds good Monica Rezora was was hiking and she's missing,
Speaker 2: you know, so she could have fallen and hurt herself.
Speaker 2: You know, is she gonna been attacked by a mountain lion?
Speaker 2: Who the hell knows what?
Speaker 5: But she was a fellow's.
Speaker 2: Material science and engineering at Aerojet Rocket Dye, which is
Speaker 2: you know, she developed this alloy that used in rockets.
Speaker 2: Melissa Cassius disappeared in the summer of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: She worked at Los Alamos National Labs. In September of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the Taus News reported, two months after
Speaker 2: Melissa Cassius, a fifty three year old Los Alamos National
Speaker 2: Lab employee, went missing. Her disappearance has left more questions
Speaker 2: and answers. New Mexico police reported no breakthroughs in the investigation.
Speaker 2: Anthony Chavez also worked at that same lab before he
Speaker 2: went missing. In May of twenty twenty five, the Los
Speaker 2: Alamos Police Department shared photos of him and wrote missing persons.
Speaker 2: Mister Anthony Chavez of Los Alamos was reported as a
Speaker 2: missing person since in exhaust's efforts to locate them have
Speaker 2: proved unsuccessful. He's not believe to be endangered, but the
Speaker 2: public disasked to help locate him. Okay, Glarcia is.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, hang on just a second.
Speaker 2: Garcia is the one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just hang on a sad because you're you're going
Speaker 4: through a list here. But I'm gonna put Jimmy on
Speaker 4: hold real quick, and uh, we're gonna go to Danny
Speaker 4: see if he's got anything to say about this. Uh yeah, Danny,
Speaker 4: you're live. Do do you have anything you want to
Speaker 4: add to this interesting story? The string of individuals disappearing
Speaker 4: and all this. Uh, Danny, I can't hear you if
Speaker 4: you're live. I don't know if you're muted.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm on you.
Speaker 8: Sorry, no, no, From the last thirty minutes, I've missed
Speaker 8: in the show, so I don't know the story.
Speaker 2: So what's missing?
Speaker 8: It sounds a little animals or these scientists that are missing.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, No, there's a lot.
Speaker 4: Be Pete's been reading off of the story and Jimmy
Speaker 4: James brought it up to begin with.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put you back on hold and put
Speaker 3: Jimmy back on.
Speaker 2: Continue on.
Speaker 3: I want to hear what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because be peaches he's listing some of the scientists
Speaker 4: and everything. So I'm gonna put Jimmy back on. But
Speaker 4: but go ahead, be p continue with the list. I
Speaker 4: got Jimmy back live.
Speaker 2: Though, all right, It says the other cases involved to
Speaker 2: see scientists. There are suspects in some of those cases.
Speaker 2: One of them the guy mentioned from MIT Well, he
Speaker 2: was shot to death by the Claudio Valente, the suspect
Speaker 2: in the Brown University mass shooting. This was a murder
Speaker 2: that supposedly he did before the Brown University shooting. Jason
Speaker 2: Thomas a scientist at Nevardes, a Swiss pharmaceutical company, who disappeared,
Speaker 2: but they found him later at the bottom of the lake.
Speaker 2: Frank Mayland, who worked at the Jet Propulsion Lab. His
Speaker 2: obituary says that he passed away on July fourth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Carl Grillmeyer and astrophysicist at Caltech. He was
Speaker 2: shot to death in his home, but there is a
Speaker 2: suspect that was charged with him after carjacking his own
Speaker 2: relative and burglarizing a home. So the ones that they
Speaker 2: really have started all this is when McCaslin disappeared. He
Speaker 2: was last seen at or near his residence in the
Speaker 2: area of Quail Run Court Northeast on the morning of Friday,
Speaker 2: February twenty seventh. They put out a silver alert for right.
Speaker 4: Now, that's this year now VP, Sorry, that's this year
Speaker 4: that mcaslyn disappeared, and that's caused everybody to look back
Speaker 4: and go, hey, wait a minute. Other people have disappeared
Speaker 4: connected to this guy. So that is this all tracking
Speaker 4: with you, Jimmy? Does this all go along with what
Speaker 4: it is you were bringing up?
Speaker 7: You nailed that, Chuck. Over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 7: people are putting these dots together. They're saying, well, this
Speaker 7: is beyond statistics. Yeah, this is a strange going on here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a lot of can yeah you live, don't.
Speaker 7: These people were working at the town but the row
Speaker 7: of the Town period would be thirteen years ago because
Speaker 7: that was the last project that the general was working on.
Speaker 3: Thirteen years ago.
Speaker 4: Is that the project to make that special kind of
Speaker 4: metal that scientist was responsible for.
Speaker 7: I do not know what those people were working on.
Speaker 7: My guess would be rockets.
Speaker 3: That would be my guest too.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's why I said either weapons or travel,
Speaker 4: but I'm thinking, you know, maybe both, but either way rocket, right,
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking about rocket technologies here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, Yeah, okay, that's the name of the lab.
Speaker 7: I'm guessing they don't keep me abreast unfortunately, Chuck.
Speaker 3: No, hey, look, no problem.
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, like I said, I had not
Speaker 4: studied this closely, so I wasn't aware there was this big, large,
Speaker 4: long pattern of people disappearing that are interconnected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you say you have something else yet?
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say mcaslin Like Garcia. It says
Speaker 2: here that he was last seen in the morning. His
Speaker 2: wife left for a doctor's appointment and came back he
Speaker 2: wasn't home. His phone, prescription glasses, and wearable devices were
Speaker 2: located at the residence. It says, however, additional items to
Speaker 2: believe to be missing include his hiking boots, wallet, and
Speaker 2: a thirty eight revolver with a leather holster. So these
Speaker 2: that's two guys August of last year in February of
Speaker 2: this year, that leave their home and took their weapon
Speaker 2: with them. Now, one took his wallet, the other one didn't.
Speaker 2: But you know, you're leaving home on foot with a pistol.
Speaker 2: Something's up. Yeah, definitely, unless you're just carrying it for
Speaker 2: personal protection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that being the case, why would you leave
Speaker 3: your home on foot? You know what I mean? That's different?
Speaker 3: And then you know, I mean, if he's got it
Speaker 3: and he throws in his car, I get it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: So you know, unless they were going to meet somebody, right,
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I can figure why they left
Speaker 2: on foot was because they were meeting somebody.
Speaker 4: Well, right, and look, you're talking about a retired general.
Speaker 4: I mean, how far is he planning to walk to
Speaker 4: go meet somebody?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: If he's on foot, I'm just saying, unless somebody came
Speaker 4: by and picked him up, and we don't know about that.
Speaker 4: But either way, yeah, you have a strange pattern here emerging.
Speaker 4: And like I said, I'm just kind of amazed that
Speaker 4: this wasn't something like, yeah, we already know about this.
Speaker 4: That wasn't the answer that you got when the president
Speaker 4: was asked and the president, you know, honestly is not
Speaker 4: going to be in on everything anyway, no matter who
Speaker 4: he is. But you know, so, I mean he would
Speaker 4: direct somebody, though, you would think that the people in
Speaker 4: charge of investigative agencies, and again, like I said, military
Speaker 4: intelligence people should be on this. And if not, like
Speaker 4: Jimmy said, it's a national security issue, I mean, what
Speaker 4: the hell. You know, he got scientists killing themselves, people
Speaker 4: getting murdered, people disappearing walking away with a side arm. Yeah,
Speaker 4: something's very wrong here when they're all connected, I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Jimmy, that's the point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, something very bizarre is going on. I mean, gee,
Speaker 7: it sure looks like someone's doing some kind of clean
Speaker 7: up operation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I don't know, it seems a little
Speaker 4: too sloppy for our people to be cleaning up this way,
Speaker 4: But then again, we've seen sloppy before. You know, is
Speaker 4: there any indication of foreign you know, intervention in these
Speaker 4: people's lives. Does anybody have an indication that somebody approached
Speaker 4: them even anything like that, or is there any hints
Speaker 4: of that in the story that anybody I mean, Jimmy,
Speaker 4: do you know anything about that?
Speaker 3: No, yes, oh you do.
Speaker 7: Okay, I can tell you some stuff, but you you
Speaker 7: won't want to hear it.
Speaker 3: I've been through that before, and it's.
Speaker 7: Just it's speculation based on some things have heard, Okay,
Speaker 7: just things that I find strange.
Speaker 3: So go for it. What do you What do you
Speaker 3: got that you know?
Speaker 7: Would you like?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course?
Speaker 4: But look, this is speculation on your part based on
Speaker 4: some information that you've seen, right, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yes, I all right. Now you'll recall mister Senator Captain
Speaker 7: Kelly of the United States Senate, right, the guy that looks.
Speaker 2: Like the ogre okay yep, formerly.
Speaker 7: A NASA mm hm uh uh yeah, who was the
Speaker 7: first person the Savannah guth recalled when she found out
Speaker 7: that her mother was missing. That guy?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: What does this guy do? Uh? In as oft times
Speaker 7: when he's not busy Senatory. Oh, he's in to making
Speaker 7: balloons with the Chinese.
Speaker 3: Hmmm.
Speaker 7: Well what does that have to do with anything? I
Speaker 7: don't know, m but I have my suspicions. Eh, something's
Speaker 7: going on. I hope someone's looking into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope so too, because I mean, if you're
Speaker 4: talking about Chinese balloons, I mean my first thought is
Speaker 4: surveillance and stuff like that. Remember those weird incidents we
Speaker 4: had a couple of years ago with the balloons flying
Speaker 4: all over place.
Speaker 7: And like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, how about that?
Speaker 7: And this time makes exactly those points of balloons with
Speaker 7: the Chinese. Hmm, how about that? What a heck of
Speaker 7: a thing.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 4: Well, anyway, let me put you on hold Jimmy real quick.
Speaker 4: I mean, b Pete, what do you think of that?
Speaker 3: Uh? That's some interesting uh supposition.
Speaker 2: There, you know, it's it's it's Arizona, New Mexico. The
Speaker 2: crazy people have all moved there, so it's like a
Speaker 2: little California. Just I'm telling them what's going on.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think all of the people on the ten
Speaker 2: list are connected. I think some of them died because
Speaker 2: they died. Some of them, you know, were shot and
Speaker 2: killed by other people that turned out to be nutbags.
Speaker 2: But this one, this general, and the guy and the
Speaker 2: girl that was working for him at the same place,
Speaker 2: it just seems weird. One disappears hiking, one disappear leaving
Speaker 2: his house and his pistols missing, and Garcia leaves his
Speaker 2: house taking his pistol with him and leaving everything else
Speaker 2: at home. Something is strange there. I don't get it now.
Speaker 2: Who is the guy? Remember about four years ago, the
Speaker 2: guy out in California.
Speaker 5: That was found dead in his car.
Speaker 2: I can't think of his name. Somehow he was connected
Speaker 2: to intelligence and he ended up his his notebooks or
Speaker 2: notes or something that he had on a particular thing
Speaker 2: were missing when they found his body. Oh yeah, dig deep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that, you know, is maybe when this
Speaker 2: stuff started, because this guy just they can't figure out
Speaker 2: why he was where he was when he ended up
Speaker 2: getting he got shot in the chest. I think they
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a random He wasn't robbed, right,
Speaker 2: but supposedly some of his recent search stuff that he
Speaker 2: had with him was missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That that actually happened to a couple of people.
Speaker 4: The one guy was like part of a police agency,
Speaker 4: and then it turned out he was part of some
Speaker 4: you know, like national intelligence thing for local police and
Speaker 4: his notes disappeared. But that guy in California was even
Speaker 4: stranger because he was tied to federal stuff. I can't
Speaker 4: you know, I don't recall all the details, but I
Speaker 4: remember that, and like I said, those balloons over the US.
Speaker 4: That was like a weird thing that happened. Remember that
Speaker 4: the balloons made it all the way across the country.
Speaker 2: Nobody took him down show, Yeah, until it got over
Speaker 2: the ocean, and then they decided to shoot the thing down.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Well by then and then they said, oh
Speaker 2: there was nothing on it, they would allow them to transmit.
Speaker 2: Then come and find out, oh yeah it could transmit.
Speaker 2: It was transmitting the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, So you.
Speaker 4: Know, look, we got some weird stuff going on, and
Speaker 4: I got to say, the greatest beneficiary of a lot
Speaker 4: of the political and international even the you know, let's
Speaker 4: be honest, some of the chaos that's occurring here in
Speaker 4: the diplomatic spheres of influence.
Speaker 3: You know, I just keep it just sticks in.
Speaker 4: My brain that the Chinese keep benefiting from a whole
Speaker 4: lot of stuff that's happening, even if it doesn't appear
Speaker 4: as though they're directly involved. They keep benefiting from everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, anyway, I don't want to take that supposition
Speaker 4: or speculation too much further until I look into this thing, especially,
Speaker 4: but I got to look into it now, because you
Speaker 4: guys have given me a lot to think about but Danny.
Speaker 4: I want to get Danny's comments on it, at least
Speaker 4: or to see what he knows or wants to say,
Speaker 4: and then we'll get back to Jimmy before we're done here.
Speaker 4: This is an interesting discussion.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We started with Dorito's and has anybody noticed price changes
Speaker 4: at McDonald's and what the cost of a frozen pizza is?
Speaker 4: And we end up on you know, spycraft and so
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on with people get murdered
Speaker 4: and disappearing connected to you know, exotic technologies.
Speaker 3: Danny, Let's see if.
Speaker 5: We can get a many before you go to Danny.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, before you.
Speaker 5: Go to Danny real quick.
Speaker 2: If we do lose the topic or we got to
Speaker 2: go change topics. They think they had solved the mystery
Speaker 2: of the lost colony in North Carolina four hundred years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding me.
Speaker 2: Figured out what happened now, it's all done through archaeology.
Speaker 5: But go to Danny. Well we'll catch that later.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, and listen, save it for next week, even
Speaker 4: because I'm fascinated by that story, you know, the colony
Speaker 4: that disappeared, Because the best idea I thought after looking
Speaker 4: at that whole thing is that those people just blended
Speaker 4: into the native tribe, and you know, something happened there
Speaker 4: where a lot of them probably died off, and what
Speaker 4: was left of them just sort of joined up with
Speaker 4: the natives.
Speaker 3: That's what I think. But anyway, let's yeah.
Speaker 5: They absolutely split. Yeah they split, some went one way,
Speaker 5: some went.
Speaker 2: The other way, but they continued in those areas where
Speaker 2: they were. But yeah, you're right, it does tie in.
Speaker 2: They traced DNA back to Tutor, England from some of
Speaker 2: the people out there on hatter As Islum.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 4: See that finally makes sense of this story where basically
Speaker 4: a whole settlement just vanishes from history at a certain point.
Speaker 4: And what I think happened is, like I say again,
Speaker 4: is that either a sickness came through or a natural
Speaker 4: disaster came through and a lot of them were killed
Speaker 4: and then they just sort of blended into what was there,
Speaker 4: I mean, what was left of them. That's what I
Speaker 4: think happened. But anyway, we'll get into that, and at
Speaker 4: another time, let's get to Danny on this other story
Speaker 4: and probably go back to Jimmy James. So Danny, now
Speaker 4: that you've heard some more about this, you got any thoughts,
Speaker 4: and are you familiar with the story.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 2: I'm becoming familiar. I wasn't familiar.
Speaker 8: But while I was listening to BP and Jimmy James
Speaker 8: and you talking about the subject matter, I just went
Speaker 8: in and googled it in and I just started just
Speaker 8: I didn't read an article, but I must have scrolled
Speaker 8: through about nearly eighty different headlines and maybe fifty different publications, right,
Speaker 8: and some of them were international.
Speaker 5: So this is a topic.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's enough information there that people were reporting
Speaker 8: writing about.
Speaker 5: But as I was getting down.
Speaker 8: About the past the fortieth level of headlines just reading
Speaker 8: the headlines, they're all kind of saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: Started saying connection with UFOs.
Speaker 8: Then they said, now the FBI is going to be involved.
Speaker 8: So there's something there that is enough concern to be
Speaker 8: looking in. There are people looking into it. Yeah, it's interesting,
Speaker 8: but I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: No, I got you honest.
Speaker 4: I had only seen a couple of headlines and I
Speaker 4: saw the clip of like Trump being asked about it,
Speaker 4: and really hadn't done into it. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 4: I recall hearing about this some time ago, must have
Speaker 4: been when mcaskill disappeared in February that I recall hearing
Speaker 4: about this recently.
Speaker 7: But because I didn't read any of the articles.
Speaker 4: Who's well, he's like the retired general who was allegedly
Speaker 4: or supposedly I should I don't even know honestly, but
Speaker 4: he was supposed to be the head of you know,
Speaker 4: certain agencies and one of the other scientists. Like I said,
Speaker 4: these are two key things, but there's a whole list
Speaker 4: of people that have now you know, disappeared or been
Speaker 4: killed one way or another, either you know, by nut
Speaker 4: jobs just blowing their heads off, or you know, the
Speaker 4: one guy before he did a mass shooting went and
Speaker 4: decided to kill this one scientist apparently. And I mean,
Speaker 4: there's just a lot of death and destruction, uh, in
Speaker 4: a very narrow corridor of people, which.
Speaker 3: You know often indicates a trend.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, And and it does seem
Speaker 4: to be a serious national security issue.
Speaker 3: I agree with.
Speaker 4: Jimmy, and what the hell is going on? Yeah, we
Speaker 4: need to know about this some more. We're gonna have
Speaker 4: to look into it some more the way I see it,
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna put you back on hold real quick. Danny,
Speaker 4: unless you got something else you want to add.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, I'm just cool.
Speaker 4: Okay, hang on, and let's see we'll get back to
Speaker 4: jim How much time do we have left here? We
Speaker 4: got about twelve minutes left, so we'll get back to Jimmy,
Speaker 4: who brought up a deep dive into a serious topic here,
Speaker 4: and I'm glad he did because now it's got my attention,
Speaker 4: and I want to take a good look into all
Speaker 4: of this and see what I can do with actual
Speaker 4: sources and see what I can do outside of you know,
Speaker 4: what's being printed. But I will look into it some more. Jimmy,
Speaker 4: this is a hell of a thing though. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know if your supposition is correct, but something
Speaker 4: is definitely up here, and it's serious. I agree with
Speaker 4: you there, absolutely, just as a cursory look at this
Speaker 4: is revealing a whole bunch of crazy this.
Speaker 3: So you know, anything else you want to add.
Speaker 7: Well, it's like you said, disturbing. I mean, if if
Speaker 7: even one of these people have been abducted or some
Speaker 7: such thing by a foreign power or whatever, that's a
Speaker 7: huge issue, big issue. Yeah, the recept I heard this
Speaker 7: general was missing in February I've been lectioning this because
Speaker 7: you know, I UFOs and all this stuff aside, there's
Speaker 7: a general missing that alone is a big issue.
Speaker 4: Well, and you know what's funny is I I was
Speaker 4: recently digging into something else that I haven't discussed anywhere,
Speaker 4: regarding some of people being abducted or appearing to be abducted,
Speaker 4: disappearing and then it turns out they wound up, you know,
Speaker 4: basically being co opted by a foreign nation, and some
Speaker 4: of them voluntarily, and you know, they die thirty forty
Speaker 4: years later and it turns out they're you know, buried
Speaker 4: in somewhere within the Soviet Union, or they're buried somewhere
Speaker 4: in Israel or whatever else because it turns out they
Speaker 4: flipped to be a spy. And sometimes people have disappeared
Speaker 4: been presumed dead and guess what they you know, they
Speaker 4: either sold out or were forced to sell out, you know,
Speaker 4: deep information to foreign nations. It's happened a little more
Speaker 4: than people want to believe. Quite frankly, Jimmy, what are
Speaker 4: your thoughts on that? Is that a possibility here in
Speaker 4: all this mess, some of the people that disappeared maybe
Speaker 4: are somewhere else giving up information.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what I fear. Oh quite frankfully. North Korea
Speaker 7: has been well known for abducting foreigners for the last
Speaker 7: fifty sixty years, right, particularly Champian people.
Speaker 4: Well not only that, and yes, they they definitely snag
Speaker 4: Japanese people constantly, seems like to me. And also you know,
Speaker 4: South Koreans have been taken often, but you know, people
Speaker 4: who don't belong to them, they'll snatch them up and
Speaker 4: they'll I don't know what they do with them because
Speaker 4: I never get all the information about it, but apparently
Speaker 4: they've done it more than once. But you know, I
Speaker 4: think people don't understand the variety of a spy you know,
Speaker 4: games that go on here, not even just our our
Speaker 4: direct adversaries, sometimes our own allies. Even you know, some
Speaker 4: of the most aggressive spy programs that I've ever like examined,
Speaker 4: you know, after the fact, came from places like Israel,
Speaker 4: who you know, had heavy, heavy presence of you know,
Speaker 4: espionage going on. They were digging into us where they're
Speaker 4: ally and they're not the only ones. There's been European
Speaker 4: nations who have done to us, and you know, et cetera,
Speaker 4: et cetera. So the truth is, you know, as much
Speaker 4: as we'd like to point a China, and they are
Speaker 4: likely a suspect here because they have the infrastructure, they
Speaker 4: have the power, They have the ability to disappear people.
Speaker 4: They have the ability to hide people with no problem.
Speaker 4: They have this separation, you know, the firewall, if you will,
Speaker 4: where if somebody disappears in China, you could never you know,
Speaker 4: hear a peep from them again, or even discover a
Speaker 4: shred of DNA if you want. It doesn't matter. China
Speaker 4: could easily take people and get whatever they want out
Speaker 4: of them. What I'm saying is is that the options
Speaker 4: are almost endless for this kind of thing, especially if
Speaker 4: somebody's got some specialized information or they happen to have
Speaker 4: a particular skill set for a particular type of technology
Speaker 4: that is desirable to adversaries and allies alike. This is
Speaker 4: a vulnerability that you know, should not be. This is
Speaker 4: why they keep a lot of people under heavy secure
Speaker 4: already when they're involved in these programs and things like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are people that live half of their
Speaker 4: lives basically in isolation to avoid stuff like this, you know,
Speaker 4: at the direction and at the care of our own
Speaker 4: government sometimes and I think people fail to recognize how
Speaker 4: deep that kind of stuff goes. Jimmy, do you think
Speaker 4: I'm talking crazy?
Speaker 7: No, You're correct in this instance, the things that are
Speaker 7: going on, I just I keep it those to China
Speaker 7: on my mind.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 7: Even the Nancy Guctory case, there appears to be a
Speaker 7: Hispanic fellow that does the kidnapping on the uh camera.
Speaker 4: So well.
Speaker 7: The Chinese, of course, have been working very closely with
Speaker 7: the cartels for the last decade. Wow, so they could
Speaker 7: very easily used cartels to do such a thing.
Speaker 2: And there's yeah, the rest.
Speaker 4: So well, and there's and there's been more than one
Speaker 4: foreign nation, foreign actors, hackers, et cetera, who have dug
Speaker 4: into various surveillance systems that people don't even consider would
Speaker 4: be of use. For instance, you know like the ring
Speaker 4: cams that people have on their homes.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, look, if you.
Speaker 4: Work in the intelligence community and you just so happen
Speaker 4: to have ring cameras at your house and stuff like
Speaker 4: that for surveillance so that you know your neighbors don't
Speaker 4: steal your freaking lawnmower or whatever. Uh, guess what people
Speaker 4: tap into those systems illegally unwanted uninvited, and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, they've got surveillance. They've got eyes on people
Speaker 4: when they don't even realize it. Uh, you know, they
Speaker 4: do the same thing by tapping into ISPs, They get
Speaker 4: into your router, and they can follow cameras all over
Speaker 4: your house that you happen to have on your you know,
Speaker 4: on your TV, on your laptops, on your phone, and
Speaker 4: they can pick them all off as long as they're
Speaker 4: tied into your network. And they've done this, you know,
Speaker 4: on the civilian side of people that have you know,
Speaker 4: either military or intel you know jobs. They've done this
Speaker 4: through the spouses, through the kids, straight up, just through
Speaker 4: their you know, commercial use of things where they should
Speaker 4: really you know, have completely secured you know, communications and
Speaker 4: things like that. But not everything is secured, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You might have your personal phone, your
Speaker 4: personal computer, and they get at you all different ways.
Speaker 4: I've seen these stories told and a lot of people think,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just paranoid crap, but it's not.
Speaker 3: It's real. This is going on like as we speak.
Speaker 4: So again, Jimmy, if you want to correct me and
Speaker 4: call me crazy, go ahead.
Speaker 7: No, I agree. There's some all the politics that we
Speaker 7: see and get annoyed with. We we a new hat
Speaker 7: to the paarapolitics, the stuff that we don't see. If
Speaker 7: pray would drive us all bisserk exactly.
Speaker 4: So, Jimmy, listen, we're coming close to the end of
Speaker 4: time for tonight's show, so I want to give you
Speaker 4: a chance to give a shout out. And then I
Speaker 4: want to give a chance to Danny to give a
Speaker 4: shout out here, you know, a final thought for the week,
Speaker 4: but we will continue into next week and again, anybody
Speaker 4: who makes a contribution, I'm being more than happy to
Speaker 4: first of all, give you a shout out all the
Speaker 4: way up to next Friday on the show.
Speaker 3: Whatever shows I do.
Speaker 4: Number one, number two, I will send you a personal
Speaker 4: gift in the mail, something personalized to you one way
Speaker 4: or another. And yeah, I'm doing that just to say
Speaker 4: thanks for contributing to this time period, which April is
Speaker 4: the worst month for me, Bill's wise, keeping the network going,
Speaker 4: et cetera.
Speaker 3: I want to expand.
Speaker 4: And besides that, as I reported on Twitter, and nobody
Speaker 4: gave a crap. Nobody pays for the memberships at o'chelly
Speaker 4: dot com anymore. And I offered if somebody wants to
Speaker 4: throw fifty dollars toward that, I'll open up the entire
Speaker 4: member section to the general public on your behalf, and
Speaker 4: of course announce and think and tell everybody else they
Speaker 4: need to thank you for doing so.
Speaker 3: But any contribution is helpful.
Speaker 4: The cash app allows me to pay some bills directly,
Speaker 4: excuse me, and not have to transfer things around. But
Speaker 4: however you do it, you're welcome to it. So please,
Speaker 4: do I want to send you a personal thank you
Speaker 4: if you give me a mailing address after you make
Speaker 4: a donation, certainly, But there you go. I'm tired of
Speaker 4: saying this, and we will be back next week with
Speaker 4: the call in show. But until then, what is your
Speaker 4: final thought for the week, Jimmy James.
Speaker 7: Everyone out there would be very careful keep your eyes
Speaker 7: up for Caddy Perry. She's out there, she's on the loose,
Speaker 7: she's wanted for rape. She's a dangerous woman.
Speaker 2: Katy Perry's won it for right.
Speaker 7: Another woman accused her.
Speaker 4: Wow, Joe, Wow, Okay, Jimmy, I did I had no idea.
Speaker 4: Uh okay, I'm a little shocked, but that's fine. And
Speaker 4: you know what, you should always have situational awareness and
Speaker 4: uh you know, protect your neck, you know what I'm saying. Anyways, Danny, Uh,
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of Katy Perry, but some people are
Speaker 4: and maybe they should be.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Your final thought for the week.
Speaker 15: Uh, thank you for opening up an interesting subject. Uh
Speaker 15: is I've been reading it long here that general uh
Speaker 15: seems to be connected to some this Monica Raisa from
Speaker 15: uh GPL with the funding. It's an interesting topic. Thank
Speaker 15: you for gutter same topics that they need to do
Speaker 15: a little more research.
Speaker 8: Uh right, shout out to Jimmy's the piece and DP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go support.
Speaker 8: The food banks and everybody out there listening help Chuck,
Speaker 8: you know, jourmate, which can little a lot would be appreciated.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely true, absolutely true. And Danny, just for the record,
Speaker 4: be on the lookout in your mailbox because there's a
Speaker 4: little personal tank you that is showing up there at
Speaker 4: some point and as as will be for anybody who
Speaker 4: takes care of that this week and makes a you know, contribution.
Speaker 4: If you give me a mailing address, I will certainly
Speaker 4: mail you something that.
Speaker 3: Only you will get in the mail.
Speaker 4: Nobody is getting two things alike, except you may all
Speaker 4: get a note that says thank you with my signature
Speaker 4: on it. That might be a common thing. But other
Speaker 4: than that, what you get in the mail is only
Speaker 4: for you, and be more than happy to send out
Speaker 4: more thank you gifts if I get some more support.
Speaker 4: So Danny, look, thank you for that very much. But
Speaker 4: all credit goes to Jimmy James on this for bringing
Speaker 4: it up and bringing it to my attention more because
Speaker 4: I had seen it and sort of passed it by
Speaker 4: because you know, who the hell can keep track of
Speaker 4: everything lately? It's impossible. But I appreciate you man, and
Speaker 4: all of your sentiments. I echo them. Thank you for
Speaker 4: calling in, Danny, and I now put you on hold.
Speaker 4: And you know, BPTE your final word for the week,
Speaker 4: my brother.
Speaker 2: Well, I just glad for Danny and Jimmy calling in,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that we could get some things taking
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Speaker 7: Do it you can.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and look it is that look.
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Speaker 4: that to convey a donation. Otherwise, you know, contact me
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Speaker 4: gave shout outs already during the show more than once,
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